OM -- Pilgrimage (Discussion and Love Thread)

upload the cd while ur at it ;-)

As if I had it. (Which, in fact, I do not.)

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FUCKING YES.

Agggggh can't wait.

Now if only they had decided to release it two weeks earlier to coincide with a certain other release coming up.

..expands on their unique use of riff,,, cadence…chant..as heard on previous recordings yet finds the band expanding their vision into new territories.

..so it's pretty much going to be the best music EVAH MADE then.

…stay tuned for East Coast dates in November

…stay tuned for East Coast dates in November

…stay tuned for East Coast dates in November

…stay tuned for East Coast dates in November

…stay tuned for East Coast dates in November

…stay tuned for East Coast dates in November

…stay tuned for East Coast dates in November

…stay tuned for East Coast dates in November

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so far the best shit they've done has been on those split releases

But all their shit has been of such a high quality.
Also, I'm wondering if the description of their "new" sound in that blurb means they'll be doing more shit like At Giza.

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:-D Thank ya Scott.

4 tracks? jesus, how many discs is this thing gonna be?

09/14 Empty Bottle - Chicago, IL w/ Circle

This show I am VERY jealous of.

I can't freakin' wait for this.

sames dude. SAMEZ.

So it def hasn't l34k3d??

just wondering.

man. totally looking forward to this. nipples erect.

tmi

They played a track off this (I *think* the title track but I wasn't inclined to take notes) when I saw them about three weeks ago. It was fucken huge, as was the rest of their set

I'm extremely excited for this. I bet it'll be awesome.

Also, I'm wondering if the description of their "new" sound in that blurb means they'll be doing more shit like At Giza.

That's what I was thinking too -- that song is definitely a major change from their other stuff. (Haven't heard any non-album tracks, though.) I wouldn't mind that at all. How's the Current 93 collaboration, btw?

On a different note, I just picked up Sleep's Dopesmoker. I think it's pretty awesome but I definitely prefer Om. Cisneros' vocals are a lot better in Om and I love the "riff,,, cadence…chant" stuff they do to such great effect.

Can't wait to hear it!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kswiPyl3hrY

sick drumming @ 2:40

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PjJtTP0pfPo

so stoked

Does anyone know of an online copy of Om's Invisible Jukebox feature in the Wire from a year or two ago? I'd love to check it out, I bet it's pretty interesting. (If it's not anywhere online and someone just happens to have it along with a scanner, don't hesitate to email it to me either...)

I dont have a scanner otherwise i wouldve done it for ya(if i could find where i put my old copies of The Wire)

oh fuck YES!

does this sound anything like what they did with current 93?

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^^the wire article

awesome, thanks a lot!!!!

:])

Is this acquirable yet?
:D

No.

Shiiiiiiiiiiiiit

I think there was a suggestion somewhere that it was in fact soon to be aavailable.

no l34ks yet

;_;

I'M SO UP FOR THIS.

somebody leak that shit! i'm buying it anyway when it comes out.

heck yes.

Unitive Knowledge of the Godhead mp3 here: http://www.southernlord.com/band_OM.php#

southernlord forum mod dude: wait till you hear the whole thing!!!!!! The songwriting and the production of this is miles beyond the previous albums. The dynamics are waayyy more extreme as well !

I picture that guy on a skateboard.

That song's v typical Om, no?
Fucking heavy when things get started.

And it's awesome, btw.

fuck that guy, just shut up man. we know it will kill, dont pull out some OMG type moves.

Got it yesterday. It sounds like Om to me.

it's like these guys knew that they only way I could possibly love them any more than I already do was if they wrote a totally awesome song called "Unitive Knowledge of the Godhead"!

I know bernard. I haven't even listened to the tune yet but I just smiled upon reading that song title. Let's all say it again, it's worth repeating: "Unitive Knowledge of the Godhead."

aaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Yea this track kills. I like it 'cos it is, with some subtle changes, just typical Om -- I like what they do so much that I didn't really want many changes, just more "riff cadence chant." is fine. But the production is pretty great here.

Am I the only one who feels like they are just playing one long ass song?
It all sounds like part of the same whole. I love that, though.

Obviously this rules...

...but was anyone else hoping to hear, I don't know, a weird synth or something this time around? Female vocalist? Cello through a Leslie speaker? SOMEthing?

Also - vinyl coming out two months after CD = bogus. WTF Southern Lord?

>Obviously this rules...

Not so obvious to these ears. What they do is okay and momentarily diverting, but honestly I don't get the worship. It mostly just sounds like the intro to your average Tool song, stretched to the 10-minute mark.

SL always do that.

Seeing them tonight w/Circle supporting. Excited!

NO I'M NOT JEALOUS (i lie)

I'm pissed that the timing didn't work out for me with that show.
I was in Chicago last weekend. Been dying to see Om for a while.
Not to mention Circle. Shit.

Both just bring it live -- together, holy hell.

listening to Pilgrimage now

>_<

So you say.

two heavy tracks bookended by quieter 'at giza' type thing. not as good as the last one but i thought the same about 'conference..' when i first heard it and that one really grew on me

i took it off ur hard drive Nederick

WTF Southern Lord?
How else are they supposed to sell you the same album twice in one year?

..or more, special limited editions pending.

Well this is one fan who won't be suckered again. I'm buying this CD off fuckin' Amazon. Take that!

Psyched to hear the "At Giza" type thing...

Hey toby, let me know how that Circle show is. I'm seeing them next week and I don't really know what to expect.

They're better live than on record

southernlord forum mod dude: wait till you hear the whole thing!!!!!! The songwriting and the production of this is miles beyond the previous albums. The dynamics are waayyy more extreme as well !

hahaha that was Greg Anderson who said that. he is The Lord

And the album is about if you know what I mean.

this is really good but kind of sounds like "Conference of the Birds" b-sides maybe?

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i dunno... it took a while for the last two to grow on me.

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same here

but i like it better each time i hear it

Just listening right now to the whole thing, it's awesome. It's not as heavy, and I think that's really working for them. They do seem to be getting a little quieter with each album (obviously with the "At Giza"/"Pilgrimage" tunes), even the heavier tracks here seem a bit more subdued. It's been said before but the production also sounds great, Albini did a nice job. The vocals seem a bit lower in the mix, but isn't that something Albini generally does a little bit?

I'm really digging this.

Did I bring this to work with me today...I think I did! Will the library stand it?

vocals should always be lower in the mix imo.

I love this album.

Wish it was longer.

i think that's my only complaint with it at this point

is anyone else hearing raga influences? it's good...

yes, but even morse so on "Conference of the Birds"

also, new om. good. on the one hand you kind of think, "oh, this again?" but then, if you just approach them as playing doom ragas - improvisations around a handful of notes in a certain key - it works.

-- GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, October 4, 2007 9:31 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Link

"doom ragas" = awesome

yeah it's fucking sweet, went straight into my top five

My lame review. Someone shoot my sense of metaphor please.

Okay, so this album is flat-out brilliant. Why it took me this long to give it a listen, I'll never know.

I think I've gotten more enjoyment out of Om's three albums more than almost anything else I've listened to all year. Everything from the riff of "On the Mountain at Dawn" on VOAT to "Unitive Knowledge of the Godhead" is fucking fantastic. Not into live shows at all really but I'm definitely gonna catch them in DC in a few weeks.

what are some good non-album tracks?

I think Om are the doom Steely Dan in that if somebody doesn't like them, then that guy is not to be trusted

what are some good non-album tracks?

there are like two, so both of those.

Vinyl is now on sale.

A bird just slammed into my bedroom window during the big tom hit on track one. Anyone else been having problems with this? Vibes too heavy for our feathered friends?

Great, great album. Maybe my favorite of the three. The production is perfect.

i might go see them live but i will have to travel :////

I do wish the vocals were mixed higher on this, reneging slightly on my earlier claim of best production ever. How am I meant to surf the astral plane when I can't even hear the holy word?

Missed these guys last night in DC. Too tired, weeknight, didn't feel like doing the drive or metro ride, though I was really debating it.

anyone go?

i drove down and but was an hour late due to getting lost in s.e. or charles county somewhere. i hate driving in d.c. so much. missed jack fahey, caught part of grails which was ok. the venue's sound was kind of ass. i think om opened with something off the first one and it sounded really muddy. one of the sound guys eventually fixed something offstage during 'at giza' and it got much better. really long, slow 'flight of the eagle' then one or two off the new one, maybe one of the split tracks, i don't know it all blended together. lots of b-more faces in the crowd. was that fog during the drive home or clouds of smoke ;)

"and but"

Fuck, I was planning on going to that and forgot all about it. I can't tell if your review was praising the show or not -- did I really miss anything?

i can't tell either.

the venue's sound ruined it in a way, i should've felt that low end and kick drum caving my chest in. still pretty great despite.

YES

January 16 Seattle, WA Neumos w/Lichens
January 17 Portland, OR Berbati's Pan w/Lichens
January 18 San Francisco, CA Independent w/Lichens
January 19 Brookdale, CA, Brookdale Lodge ((Folk Yeah!)) Presents w/Lichens
January 20 Los Angeles, CA Echoplex w/Lichens
February 6 Baltimore, MD The Ottobar w/Daniel Higgs
February 7 Philadelphia,PA Johnny Brenda's w/Daniel Higgs
February 8 Brooklyn, NY Luna Lounge w/Daniel Higgs
February 9 Boston, MA Downstairs at Middle East w/Daniel Higgs

om w/ lungfish would make more sense but i guess this will do

That January 20th date looks urgent and key...

I (kind of) wish the Boston show was with Lichens..

for me YES

February 7 Philadelphia,PA Johnny Brenda's w/Daniel Higgs

nobody ever plays in philly anymore. nobody i want to see, anyway.

Despite Ned's review, Allmusic.com, and many other sources of accidental disinformation, Chris's last name is Hakius, not Haikus.

I also want to thank Chris for turning me on to Billy Cobham's drumming.

Philly is a terrible music market. It's like Atlanta. Huge city. Huge population. Way too few clubs. Lousy attendance. It's a drag.

I like Pittsburgh way better.

<i>nobody ever plays in philly anymore. nobody i want to see, anyway.</i>

om just came thru dude. philly's a fine music market.

alright, well, maybe everyone i want to see comes through and i just never hear about it.

I'm not saying no one plays there. I'm just saying it's not a great place to play unless you have a big built-in audience.

im hearing things of a canceled tour and break up at the moment. no confirmation yet.

Wau, hope it's not true. Recent Seattle show was excellent, no evident tension.

Whens the Shrinebuilder stuff coming?

im hearing things of a canceled tour and break up at the moment. no confirmation yet.

god, i hope this isn't true.

i'm also curious to hear the shrinebuilder stuff.

I saw them at the Independent and they kicked ass. Was really impressed by their chemistry and the drummer's stamina. He pounded those things forever. Also impressed by how much noise two guys can make. They really filled the room in a venue with not the best sound imo.

I'd hate them to break up, but at the same time unless they drastically change their sound soon, they are running the risk of redundancy. I spaced out (in the bad way) a few times during their set. I'd love to see the two guys stay together and add a non-showy percussive rhythm guitar player to the mix. They did one song near the end of their set - maybe even for the encore - that I didn't recognize and I really liked. Rocked in an almost mosh-pit groovy type of way. I hope it gets released on some kind of media before they call it quits.

I still need to buy this album, dammit.

http://www.blinne.org/photos/uncategorized/siren.gifunconfirmed rumors say Om killed in gravity bong accident http://www.blinne.org/photos/uncategorized/siren.gif

someone from the middle east posed confirmation about the tour cancellation here...

http://board.lemmingtrail.com/t.php?id=114806

hope the breakup rumours are untrue

Wasn't this meant to be the last Om album anyway?

i hadn't heard that.

Fuck! I tried to go to their last show in MA which was sold out when I got there, then they scheduled this one and I was like oh ok cool........

Damn, from that article above, I guess these guys reallly like Billy Cobham. But then again, what's not to like.

...unless they drastically change their sound soon, they are running the risk of redundancy. I spaced out (in the bad way) a few times during their set.

--rocklepads

yeah they could use a new idea/sound or two....but damn I hope they don't breakup

i haven't seen them yet though :-(

nah, i actually think there's a decent amount of variation between the albums. sure, "flight of the eagle" from COTB could've been switched with any track from VOAT, but the harder tunes on Pilgrimage are pretty different from the harder stuff on the first two albums. they've done a pretty good job of refining the sound with enough variations from album to album, i think. production-wise, too, Pilgrimage marks a big step forward, i think. if they don't break up, i think they've got another couple of solid albums left with the sounds they're working with.

When I saw them on the 18th, the last thing they said was "see you in a few months!"

Fingers crossed.

It seems Chris has bronchitis and that's why the us tour is postponed.
http://www.foreverdoomed.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1463

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Om is continuing forward with a new drummer and working on a new recording. Please check omvibratory.com and this page for updates. A live vinyl only LP "Om - Live at Jerusalem" will be forthcoming. This is Chris Hakius' final release with the group. I personally apologize to east coast fans who planned on coming out to the shows. Please know that Om will be back in your area later in 08. Thank you to all of you. Live dates resume in late spring. There is a LOT of new material on its way. Shrinebuilder is also forging ahead. See you all soon. -al

Wow that sucks! Chris was amazing...gonna be hard to replace

what's this Shrinebuilder stuff everyone is talking about?

A band with Wino

oh shit. that should be interesting. hakius will be missed, tho.

I dont see how they can continue without him

I totally agree, there is just no way that they would be the same band with any other drummer. Om is all about the absoultely rigid chemistry and synergy between those two guys, as anyone who's seen them live will testify. They've been playing together for 20 years! There's just no way. It feels like a real Tufnell / St Hubbins moment. Their set at Supersonic last year was the most awesomely powerful sound I have ever heard made by two humans, ever. I hope they sort this shit out.

yea, you all are spot on, hakius will definitely be missed. this is too bad. i'm still excited for the shrinebuilder stuff (i thought i read in the wire that hakius was part of that, too?), but this is a bummer.

r.i.p. hakius. so young

I'd have a hard time accepting a Hakius-free version of the band (even a reduced-Hakius version) as Om. New version should be called O, or maybe M.

∞M?

Om shouldn't continue without him, it's unthinkable.

well now I'm really glad I caught their in-store at Amoeba SF last year

"Om is all about the absoultely rigid chemistry and synergy between those two guys, as anyone who's seen them live will testify...most awesomely powerful sound I have ever heard made by two humans, ever. I hope they sort this shit out."

OTM

CH should join endless boogie

i mean, so should AC!

yeah everybody should!

Haikus for Hakius, courtesy the Deciblog.

adrien beat me to it.

Scott Kelly is also in Shrinebuilder. At least last I heard.

When Hakius stayed at my house years ago, he turned me on to Billy Cobham. Thanks Chris!!!

emil amos is the new drummer, new 7" titled "gebel barkal" just completed, due out soon on sub pop. full-length due next year.

i'll be very curious to hear the new drummer.

so anyone know the reasons hakius left? any word on shrinebuilder (and whether or not he's still a part of it?)

(btw, the info re: the new drummer/7" is on the band's website

Mark, I don't know any more than you do... but I'm glad to hear they'll be moving onward. :)

i heard he just didnt want to tour anymore. wants to chill.

new dude

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Grails drummer. Dude is good.

he doesn't look resputin-y enough to fill in for hakius.

has live at jerusalem been out for a while now? totally forgot about that

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Grails drummer. Dude is good.

-- fukasaku tollbooth, Tuesday, March 18, 2008 10:13 AM (3 months ago) Bookmark Link

fact

Th lp isn't top sound quality unfortunately

but it's SUPER LIMITED, surely that's more important?

hope it comes out on cd eventually, can't be arsed to chase vinyl anymore.

I doubt it's that ltd actually. Supposedly it is a vinyl only release.

it's SUPER LIMITED to 3,100 copies, no big deal, really. that's probably about how many it'd sell anyway :D

It's been on sale weeks at SL and it's still up for sale.

i miss the hakius beard.

Th lp isn't top sound quality unfortunately

-- Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, June 29, 2008 6:58 PM

^understatement of the month (i found a t0rrent)

ha what a waste of LTD EDITION vinyl

I doubt it will sell out quick due to its shittiness of sound. Packaging is nice though. Wonder when the 7" will drop.

so is this 7" out or not? nobody seems to have it in the real world, the subpop website has dick-all information about it. this isn't some subscription-only crap, is it?

yes it is. sub pop singles club or something.

oh for fuck's sake. hey sub pop cram your subscription garbage ok.

No doubt some will appear on ebay. Maybe the band will have some for future live dates or something.

sub pop singles club

lol remember the 90's?

sub pop singele = 1 mediocre track and a throwaway dub version? http://forums.gleemax.com/images/smilies/sleepy.gif

i bet it's still better than the shitty sounding live lp

might also be that the 7" time constraints don't suit them

sub pop singele = 1 mediocre track and a throwaway dub version?

unfortunately otm. "at giza" type stuff but not as good and the vocals actually make the song worse. and they finally build up a head of steam towards the end. 7" is def. not their format, but i hope the album's better. new drummer's got some big shoes to fill and some tiny-ass feet.

ok but the melodica in the dub version is pretty cool.

ok so i actually think "gebel barkal" is fucking awesome. i was a little disappointed at first but this track is great. new drummer kills, and i loved hakius. dude was seriously hard to top but amos does a pretty good job, he's got a different touch and different dynamic going on, almost has a kind of lightness but he can also get seriously heavy when he needs to.

and they finally build up a head of steam towards the end

yea i would've liked it they made the track longer and didn't cut out the part at the end when things start getting heavier. i'm really optimistic about the album though.

Grails drummer. Dude is good.

-- fukasaku tollbooth, Tuesday, March 18, 2008 10:13 AM (3 months ago) Bookmark Link

fact

i've been checking out grails a bit, and while i think some tunes are hit or miss, amos' drumming is a constant. very good

so i'm happy too that albini's doing this next one too. any word on when the album's coming out?

Looking forward to this as well. These guys have a solid back catalog building up. Live LP coming out on Important Records in a couple months, too!

another live one? the last one sucked ass

2.15.09
Next month we will announce our new label as we enter the studio, again with Albini, to record the new album. All the material is written and we are ready to go. Updates to follow.

In other news we have a live LP coming 4/28 on Important: Conference Live. This will be available on vinyl only. Black vinyl and white vinyl editions. Why a live album at this time? We felt it essential to document the way these songs evolved to date before moving on to the aforementioned forthcoming material.

they don't have any good recordings of the songs with hakius?

God is Good - September 8th on Drag City
September 8th will see the release of the forthcoming studio album by OM.

The album is titled God is Good

Thebes
Meditation is the Practice of Death
Cremation Ghat I
Cremation Ghat II

The album was recorded March 2009 by Steve Albini at Electrical Audio, Chicago. Updates will be available via Drag City, omvibratory.com and here.

Conference Live will be just a few more weeks. This will be available on vinyl only. Why a live album at this time? We felt it essential to document the way these songs evolved to date before moving on to the aforementioned forthcoming material. The multi-track audio is clear and loud, mixed in Portland, and mastered by Carl Saff in Chicago.

Transmissions From Sinai, the 2009 Arthur Compilation I have curated is now available: http://bit.ly/fK5Xm

The album is comprised of works by the following artists:

Lichens
Linval Thompson
Grouper
Current 93
Scott Kelly
Quixotic
Hush Arbors
Mia Doi Todd
Six Organs of Admittance
Holy Sons
Pantaleimon
Grails
Sir Richard Bishop
J Mascis
Wino
Alpha & Omega

…and cover art by Arik Roper.

- Al 29 May 2009

That compilation sounds ace, and looking forward to the new album too.

awesome

lol 'god is good'

I'm looking forward to the follow-up, Buddha is Beddha

new album - awesome

tribute comp. - yawwwwnn zzz... wait, Linval Thompson wtf ????

The multi-track audio is clear and loud, mixed in Portland, and mastered by Carl Saff in Chicago.

well, hopefully it won't sound as god-awful as the last live album then.