50 cent "I'll quit if i don't outsell Kanye West"

Go Kanye!

SRSLY!

I may just have to buy Kanye West's album now.

50 cent is so cold nyc can't deal w it

it's not NYC's fault that he's never been able to write a single anywhere near as good as his breakthrough

"Stronger" still sucks.

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Last two posts both OTM

Plus Fiddy at his RnB ringtone worst > Kanye at his "hey, remember this song?" sampling worst

Stronger is horribly disappointing.

it's garbage, for sure

"Stronger" is just ok but it's one of Kanye's best where "I Get Money" is 50's worst solo single. Hard to pick a side here: single I like better vs. rapper I like much, much better

"I Get Money" is 50's worst solo single.

This is very wrong.

also, "Can't Tell Me Nothin" >>>>>>>>>>> "Stronger"

"Stronger" is just ok but it's one of Kanye's best

WAHT

Through the Wire and Gold Digger are miles beyond Stronger, to name two

'i get money' is better than anything kanye has released from this one so far

"Can't Tell Me Nothin" is better than "Stronger" but at the same time it sounds like Moby

Which one's Blur, and which one's Oasis?

If I believed Fiddy I would probably pony up for Kanye's album. I'm not a huge fan of either, but at least with Kanye I can expect one killer single from each of his albums.

I'm buying both albums.

Okay, now rumor has it that Kanye pushed his album back:

http://mediatakeout.com/9899/50_cent_wins_kanyes_album_changes_release_date.html

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Good thing if it's true...how could they both have handled all that extra publicity?

50 should change his release date as well

yeah that would be funny as fuck

only Kanye song I like better than Stronger is the one w/ Paul Wall

you have weird taste, "stronger" and "drive slow" are like his two worst singles.

no Jamie Foxx + multiple distractions from Kanye rapping = favorites

the entire sample in "Stronger" is a distraction from Kanye rapping

I think that's what he meant.

"I'm not looking for commitment/we can fuck and be friends" >>>>> Kanye's dyke line

"Follow My Lead" is a bit boring, but I still prefer it to "Stronger" and "Can't Tell Me Nothin'"

Kanye always coasts on the production...when that fails, the song always sucks (well, unless he's able to find a rapper who can actually, y'know, rap well). Lately, though, he's found a way to ruin semi-good production (see "Can't Tell Me Nothin'"). I'll be surprised if Graduation is half as good as Late Registration.

50 cent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>kanye west >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>50 cent >>>>>>50 cent >>>>>>>>>>>>>kanye west >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 50 cent > 50 cent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>kayne west

Not that I really care about either but I've enjoyed a few Kanye West beats but have hated all 50 cent songs including the one everyone here inexplicably considers genius.

which one is that

"Hate It Or Love It"?

oh I like that one the best

that's a Game single tho...

Best 50 single = "Like My Style". That was a single right?

Technically on a Game album though, by the time I bought The Massacre it had been removed, and that was a remix version that I've never even heard.
x-post!

that's a Game single tho...

(but it's 50's song...that first verse is unbelievable)

I like the Game. Usually I ignore 50s undecipherable mummbling. Oh and "In the club" to cross reference a previous post.

that's my pistol on my BITCH, nigga
fuck that box.
that's how pete got knockt.
that's a jewl i dropt.
b'twin peak that nigga
go 'head, repeat dat nigga
u myt lern a lil sumthn if u lern t'stop frontn

I liked Many Men (Wish Death) the most out of the Get Rich singles. I mean, I don't think it was released as a single but there was a video for it on MTV so I'm counting it.

Don't ever fix your lips like collagen
Then say something where you gon end up apolog'in
Let me know if it's a problem then
A'ight man, holla then.

50 threatening to quit right after he made 50 million on his vitamin water deal--sounds more like wanting to out of top, and since it seems he barely has any "artistic" ambitions, that would be the smart move.

to go out on top, obv.

""artistic""

"artistic"

Just rescuing the word from excessive quotation marks.

I think you don't see what he did there.

Fine, then 50 has artistic ambitions, with absolutely no irony. He's in it only for the critical props. He'll soon do a collab w/ David Byrne, WTF?

I think you may be sorta slightly kinda overestimating 50's willingness to "go out" at all

Like every other artist, he will have declining record sales. He doesn't seem to be much of a live performer or an actor. His only shot at staying on top is probably to be murdered or to kill Kanye.

two words: reality show

It doesn't matter, he signed about $250,000,000 worth of licensing deals when he jumped the shark with the last album. 50's great grandkids will be driving Bentleys if he is even remotely responsible with his money.

you should read his "autobiography" sometime. It is pretty funny in places. The Austin Public Library System surprises me from time to time. I wasn't expecting to find it in the stacks.

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Smart Rappers Finish Rich

(potential album title)

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Well he HAS cancelled his european tour, so maybe...

THANK YOU KANYE

National nightmare: over.

the most pathetic dummy-spit in chart history!

YOU GUYS HE IS TIRED OF USING TECHNOLOGY ANYWAY

Both of these guys are tools.

^^^^ THIS

BOTH OF THESE GUYS RUEL * U GUYS = TOOLS

Final tally: 957,000 v. 651,000

ayo.

Kanye is the methadone that helped America kick its 50 Cent habit, just like 50 Cent was the methadone that helped America kick its Ja Rule habit.

Best part of this that I just realized - last week on 106 after Jay ran out w/ Kanye, Curtis was all "I'll beat Kanye and his big brother too!" and he ended up w/ less than Kingdom Come's first week.

Whiney how many people did you make cash bets with on this that you gotta pay today?

My happiness over Kanye winning fails to eclipse my shame of being wrong.

I did put a pretty substantial bet on whether Death Cab For Cutie would go platinum in a year, and am still riding high off that victory

Music industry being crazy = awesome time for betting.

On Idolator I mentioned how Kanye outsold 50 by an even greater margin with online purchases -- over 2 to 1 -- and Dennis O'Bell had a good point: "I'd like to hear Fitty's theory about how Def Jam faked those sales."

sales, more than ever, are not a measure of popularity

That's true. But Kanye is more popular than 50 right now.

On Idolator I mentioned how Kanye outsold 50 by an even greater margin with online purchases -- over 2 to 1

It's _almost_ as if for some reason the traditional online music purchasing target market of white professionals in their mid 20s to late 30s would, for some reason, be more likely to buy Kanye than Fifty Cent. What an odd situation.

I will be so happy if I never have to hear 50 rap again

u wish he died lol

I wouldn't exactly mourn his passing, no

ayo?

I love the opening post in this thread. Like the concept of two rappers not getting along is such an unheard of concept, he had to look to Britpop to find something to compare it to.

He was referencing the sharing of street dates, not just the rivalry.

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omg lolz

that's some 80s sitcom shit right there

I thought Kanye's mom was a college English professor. Why does she need a ghostwriter, assuming that's who Karen Hunter is?

to make it palatable to the general public?

to pepper it with up-to-the-minute hip-hop slang?

To find Karen?

they tried to get Pharoahe Monch but he wasn't available

Looks like the world will get rid of a rapper, which is good.

(And Kanye is better anyway)

Apparently, the moms of Kanye West, Taleb Kweli, Common, and Mos Def all hang out.

hongro weighs in on the issue!

guys Kanye is lame

maybe but 50 is LAMER

I will always have a spot in my heart for Kanye cuz of his Katrina moment, but some of his records are good too

there are probably only two mass media moments in this millenium that gave me hope for America and that was one of them (other = Colbert "bombing" at the WH correspondent's dinner)

Why would you guys shit on such an sweet thing like that book?

oh who cares its just a bit of cash-in fluff with a hilarious After School Special-lookin cover

i dunno, i think getting some $ via nepotism isn't all bad

its what we do xxpost

Looks like the world will get rid of a rapper, which is good.

wtf more proof does the world need that it was Geir who iced Tupac and Biggie. disguising yourself as Suge Knight fooled people for years but no more.

Hey, I like "All Eyez On Me" a lot so if there's one rapper I wouldn't have iced.... :)

i'm fairly certain you stepped out of a time machine so please use it and save mah man 2pac ;_;

Kanye is such a fucking awkward, precious cheeseball. Yeah, it's been said before, it'll be said again (well maybe not those exact words) but when someone really rubs you the wrong way so bad, you just want to write it down. See 50 is a comic book character who is sometimes fun to indulge in. Kanye is this little fucking annoyance tapping pop music on the shoulder.

yeah but 50's music sucks right??

Kanye's beats sound like Moby

oh come now that's uncalled for

KW is #1 on singles, too. "Ayo" at #5, "Good Life" at #14, "I Get Money" at #20, "Can't Tell Me Nothing" at #41.

50 sucks hardcore. Can't stand him.

Dan and I with a parallel view on something? Unthinkable!

I blame 50's album on his beats. Have you heard those things?

The Massacre was actually decent. Give 50 a good beat and he's not a bad MC.

50's an AMAZING mc, he just hasn't been showing it lately because amazing mcs make records that sell 200,000 copies, not 5 million.

Not that i couldn't think of a few exceptions milliseconds after posting that

wtf more proof does the world need that it was Geir who iced Tupac and Biggie. disguising yourself as Suge Knight fooled people for years but no more.

Has anyone ever actually seen Geir and Suge in the same place at the same time? I think not. Feds to thread!

Whiney 8080

(Actually, I wouldn't go so far as "amazing", but he can be v. good when he wants to be)

isn't he too limited tonally to be amazing? has he ever strayed from the Mase-like monotone? surely how you say it as well as what you say is the mark of amazing MC.

"Stronger" now the #1 in the country.

because amazing mcs make records that sell 200,000 copies, not 5 million.

sick sad world

Daria would totally have dated Kanye

has he ever strayed from the Mase-like monotone?

uh dude is all abt melodic hooks - also he is so great - and he is tired of using technology

Having the most inexplicable hook of the year on your side is a good thing, obv.

have you heard that one where the corus is just him going ahaha... ahahahaha

isn't he too limited tonally to be amazing? has he ever strayed from the Mase-like monotone? surely how you say it as well as what you say is the mark of amazing MC

Breezly Brewin from Juggaknots has a monotone and he's one of the rippinest MCs ever. And Erick Sermon changed hip-hop with his monotone.

xp: "Straight to the Bank"? If so, that's Yayo, but I have a feeling that's not what you're talking about.

Erick Sermon is k-classic, of course. EPMD invented middle-ground rap, did they not?

yeah thats the one - funny!

those dudes were stoooooned

has he ever strayed from the Mase-like monotone?

are you asking this about 50 or kanye

Eh, probably, but that song is rote as all fuck. (xp)

the laughing is not rote as fuck or as anything - its hilarious

Kanye doesn't rap in a monotone, come on

when kanye says he "can't get much wronger" i think he acknowleges as much

EPMD invented middle-ground rap, did they not?

tentative o_O

until i can figure out who exactly invented middle-ground rap.

Double Trouble

no wait UTFO

I'm not gonna vouch for the accuracy of that statement, I'm just tossing it out there.

I don't understand this term "middle-ground rap"

like somewhere between underground and pop, I guess...?

Rap-rap

Like who was the Foo Fighters of rap?

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I stole that phrase from Deej or Ethan or Al. But yeah, subgenreless rap-rap.

xp: I'd like to hear that.

well of course im not talking abt gully underground (which is ok right now) and south underground (which is fucking great) but all the mcs at the far end of the national popular spectrum-- like i said above it used to be 50 and fat joe and nore and xzibit, all talented rappers who just hadnt blown up yet, but now it seems like everyone is underground by choice instead of circumstance

-- $$, Tuesday, January 20, 2004 4:12 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

there is nothing "middle ground" abt nice n smooth

fcuk what am i doin on ilm

nice & smooth were bubblegum boom bap

WHAT KILLED THE UNDERGROUND

^^ Good middle-ground rap discussion.

(That's the thread where I phrase-jacked from, btw)

"in '96 when everybody was singing shit on hooks, the underground came with that raw '88 style... now everybody's doing this artsy fartsy emotional shit, i dont think its hip-hop"

J-Zone - It just lost its edge completely. Anything rugged is described as non hip-hop. Everybody is scared to be considered thug or scared to be considered rugged. Everybody is scared to be funny. People just want to talk about the world ending over these spaced invader ass pseudo-techno beats and it's fucking noise to me! All this shit is noise. All this fucking art fag shit is straight noise to me and it just sounds like crap. People are so busy elevating and uplifting that they forget how to entertain. Back in the day X-Clan and Public Enemy would do both, but nowadays people are so busy trying to be prophets and save the world. Everybody is wearing all this corduroy shit and it's just like all his fucking space shit!! FUCK ALL THAT BIG WORDS SHIT!! That's why I listen to what I listen to, because I don't wanna hear all that big nerd shit. I wanna hear, "In My Neighborhood" by Spice 1. That's my shit.

I don't care if you're white black a bitch or a fucking bum off of the streets. If you rap about shooting people, smoking blunts, wearing timbs, drinking hennessy, and whatever else, I'll buy your music. If you rap about your girl, but don't call her a bitch, fuck you. If you rap about the economy and how its hurts migrant workers, fuck you. If you rap about your rap telekenisis or some equally retarded nerd shit, fuck you. That basically how I break it down to an extent.

-- dat nigga delmar, Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:55 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

this is some of the dumbest aesthetic criteria I've ever heard

u <3 it

Worst part about that thread is people throwing the baby out with the bathwater by criticizing a set of rappers who threw the baby out with the bathwater.

Like it would kill anyone to ride for JT The Bigga Figga AND Antipop Consortium.

coutnry and wetsern lol

Mac Dre and Mac Lethal would have made that sentence more poetic, I realize.

If there's one music group whose very name makes me never want to hear their music, Antipop Consortium is it. (I know, I know, exactly what you're railing against, but who gives a fuck.)

its okay they're music's bad anyway

THEIR wtf

loooloez u use RONG werd!

Antipop Consortium is great. Haters be damned!

antipop consortium >>>>>>>>> mac lethal

false advertising in rap names

1. mac lethal

thought this would a bay area thizzed out mac dre/mac mall type not white emo nerd rap cat - mp3 deleted

-- and what, Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:07 AM (4 weeks ago) Bookmark Link

Mac Lethal is great.

"Stronger" now the #1 in the country.

fuck the world

lol u mad (and rong)

"Strongay", morelike