BOB DYLAN NEW MORNING C/D

really?

easily one of my favorite bob albums....

"If Dogs Run Free": funniest Dylan song ever or just the most painful?

the part where he goes "saw the sun come up on that little minnesota tooooooowwn...that liiiitle miiinesooota tooown!" part gets me crunk if i've had a few..home pride!

aaaand the locusts sang!

best bob drinking album actually...

^ yes

if dogs run free i can hang with, it's a little goofy but don't hate on winterlude!

"Father Of Night" is a hypnotic lil' ditty...if it were several times longer, it would be an Ibiza classic...

"The Man In Me" is the best drinking song on the record...(The Big Lebowski reinforced that)...

the part where he goes "saw the sun come up on that little minnesota tooooooowwn...that liiiitle miiinesooota tooown!" part gets me crunk if i've had a few..home pride!

Me too! I also love the part, where he speeds up and says, "'How are you?' he said to me, I said it back to him."

And,

"And she began to shout,
'Go on back to see the gypsy.
He can move you from the rear,
Drive you from your fear,
Bring you through the mirror.
He did it in Las Vegas,
And he can do it here.'"

yeah the beat to gypsy is all weird, i always wonder if it's in some odd time signature, but i don't now shit about theory...

yeah the las vegas thing is so random, very ominous like vegas is the hardest place to do some witchy stuff, this shit will seem like a preseason game after that...

This album has his best piano playing. I love those runs after singing the chorus of "Day of the Locusts."

allmusic suggests that went to see the gypsy is about elvis! huh...i didn't get that at all.

also: charlie daniels is on this record. the more you know (TM)

allmusic suggests that went to see the gypsy is about elvis! huh...i didn't get that at all.

it makes me think of gurdjieff having a meeting in a hotel, the way he did in new york in the 40s.

classic! one of the odder Dylan albums, for sure. Doesn't seem that way at first, but there's a definite strange-ness going on here that's unique to his catalog. also, there are some interesting outtakes from these sessions -- "Sign On The Window" with a big orchestral backing, solo piano version of "Spanish Is The Loving Tongue," electric piano-led "Gypsy." It deserves a deluxe edition that it'll probably never get ...

it's so loosey goosey, one of the most fun dylan records.

what's funny is reading Al Kooper's recollections of the making of the record -- how Dylan sort of obsessed over the whole thing and kept changing his mind and generally drove Kooper nuts! Very un-Dylanesque. And yet it still sounds so ramshackle, or loosey goosey as you say.

huh that really surprises me...it feels really off the cuff almost like parts of the basement tapes where you can tell they are just feeling their way through the song or something...that's strange to hear that it was fussed over.

to me it's a funnier, looser Low, in which a great singer/songwriter says fuck-all to concepts, relies on the mundanities (babies, Elvis, etc), and throws a buncha songs together on which he plays a dispropotionate number of instruments.

It deserves a deluxe edition that it'll probably never get ...

The CD sounds like garbage. I love the woody, warm sound of the LP.

translation: you are right. I would love a deluxe reissue.

i've seen a new vinyl pressing of it for sale..i have a good shape vers. of the old vinyl and it sound great.

The chapter in Chronicles that deals (kinda tangentially) with this album is great as well.

it's a second-tier bob album for me. which makes it still pretty great. i've always heard "gypsy" is about the maharishi (sort of a "sexy sadie part ii".)

Nah, "Gypsy" isn't mean at all (as "Sadie" rightfully was), and there's no way Dylan was gonna rep for the Maharishi in late 1970. . . .

i think the gypsy is pretty clearly a charlatan. but it's true that whoever he is, dylan seems more amused by him than disgusted.

Any love for Time Passes Slowly? I like the sorta climax where the guitar is 'soloing' over those blocked piano chords

I bought this on vinyl for $2 today.

I'd totally forgotten I started this thread. I was like "how obnoxious that this title is in all caps how presumptuous of the thread-starter that his thread is so fucking impor-- oh."

new morning is important! $2 is great if it was in decent condition.

so good

I bow to the Bob canon and all, but this is my personal fave of his, if only because it was the only Dylan album my father owned (I'm guessing he bought it for "If Not for You") and I heard it a kabillion times throughout my childhood. And it's not just nostalgia, I still love it, from first to last. "Time Passes Slowly," "Day of the Locusts," "Went to See the Gypsy" (swinging little number, that), "If Dogs Run Free," title track, "Father of Night," all good. Even quasi-cheeseball stuff like "Winterlude"--I love it when he calls her "my little apple."

In re "Gypsy," I've heard variously that it's about Elvis, the Maharishi, and Allen Ginsberg. Still waiting on the definitive word on that.

Changing of the Guard?

OH sorry that's STREET LEGAL

I am literally listening to this lp for the first time right now, I bought it on Sunday

somewhat shocking that I'd never heard of this album before I looked up what record "The Man In Me" was on! guess it's like Neil Young, he's got so many good-to-great records it's hard for them to all get mentioned ....

love this one and best bob drinking album actually... is totally otm.

Can someone who was there, so to speak, tell me what the reception to this album was like when it was released? i've heard conflicting reports.

This was the first of several thank-god-Bob's-back publicity events. It sold well. The early seventies were a strange transitional time; NM and Planet Waves are not among his well-known albums. I like them as minor records with several great cuts apiece.

i certainly wasn't there, but the impression i get from a collection of critical essays and reviews (i'll try to find a link. can't remember the official title) i read a few years ago was since it came on the heels (like just a few months?) of the dissappointing Self Portrait, some fans & critics were pleased to have a "proper" record with some strong songs in his "normal" voice. OTOH it also seemed a lot of the fanatics were angry he hadn't followed up on the promise of Blonde on Blonde and was content to be "domesticated Bob" rather than some sort of emblem of the counter-culture. Chronicles Vol 1 and I'm Not There touch on this, even if they don't directly reference New Morning.

The chapter in Chronicles that deals (kinda tangentially) with this album is great as well.

-- tylerw, Monday, September 17, 2007 3:01 PM (11 months ago) Bookmark Link

or maybe Chronicles did?

this A.J. Weberman dude was pretty cracked:
http://expectingrain.com/dok/who/w/webermanaj.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._J._Weberman

i've definitely read about the comparisons it faced alongside Self-Portrait, which came out what, 4 months prior? i guess i'm just curious about the general public's reaction. Critics seemed pretty divided between "return to form" & "boring, lackluster". It's really not important, i just have a personal fascination with the context of albums that came out long before i was born. Especially ones i really like.

still love this. yeah honestly maybe it is a "minor" album but that's why i like it so. it doesn't feel bogged down by history or expectations or anything.

is street legal worth getting?

it doesn't feel bogged down by history or expectations or anything.

yeah exactly, it's like bob put out this little personal thing in hopes people might get it as *him* instead of one of the many masks he wore over the years

Calling a record "minor" is not insulting.

Street Legal is definitely worth getting. I don't understand why it has a mediocre reputation. Mediocre for Dylan, maybe, but still really good. He still plays a bunch of these songs live.

I'm not sure what I think about New Morning, though. Minor is probably the best way to put it. I hate hate hate "If Dogs Run Free". I don't listen to the album very often, but it's not an embarrassment.

I have never heard Self-Portrait but I would like to. I know "All The Tired Horses" and like it a lot.

self portrait ain't bad. i always liked his cover of "Gotta Travel On" and Gordon Lightfoot's "Early Morning Rain." In fact, all the covers except for "The Boxer" are at least interesting, if memory serves. and there's a ramshackle (possibly live?) "Quinn the Eskimo"

im a big fan of self portrait and new morning...

even winterlude and the simon and garfunkel cover

i'm now totally convinced "Went to see the gypsy" is about elvis.

still need to get street legal....i bought biograph on vinyl a while back and "Senor (Tales of Yankee Power)" is so great.

np: "Winterlude"

the corny female scat singing on if dogs run free is wtflol but also kind of awesome at the same time

this kinda bums me out though cuz it's so fucking cold right now in minneapolis...this is an album that makes me wanna drink a beer outside when it's warm ;_;

current temp: 2O degrees F

posted to another dylan thread:

but what i really want to say is i downloaded some stuff from the "new morning" sessions and i've gotta say it's a revelation. i long ago absorbed the complete basement tapes and the new york blood on the tapes sessions and the myriad outtakes from blonde on blonde... and frankly every other bootleg i've heard since then has been sort of just OK, even including the dylan/cash sessions. but this "new morning" stuff is amazing! although i say that as a big fan of the album, which i know is not a consensus favorite.

by the way the remaster of this sounds excellent.

Yeah my roommate counts this as the best Dylan album and he peed his pants when his remaster came in the mail. Need to listen to this again when I get home.

A friend that Dylan's piano really sounds great.

gotta get that remaster. btw, i agree, the outtakes are really great -- here's my own comp of some of the best stuff http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/100814102/winterlude-the-early-word-on-the-new-dylan-album

thx dude!

no prob. yr gonna like it! the "gypsy" there is worth the price of admission alone.

Yes! This remaster and the "Hokoyo!" Thomas Mapfumo reissue on Water are my two fave reissues of the year so far...

I think I've listened to "The Man in Me" like 50 times in the last week

what an album

I am still really into this record btw

was just thinking of something to listen to on my ipod good call

yeah this record is very very good

If Dogs Run Free is totally hilarious - a little jazz piano doodling, some dog noises, Dylan mumbling. AWESOME

weirdly, dylan actually plays that song live from time to time.

I had this on my iPod on my way to work today - put me in such a good mood, it's far better than I remembered it being. 'Day of the Locusts' is a great song! I don't actually own the CD anymore, I should pick up that remastered version.

Maybe this has been pointed before on the thread, but it boggles my mind that "Gypsy" features Dylan's only mention of the state of Minnesota

c'est

he talks about duluth on "Something There Is About You"

not entirely related but does anyone remember which ilx thread was the one where someone accidentally posted the album cover of 'empire burlesque' when they meant to post a different image and it turned into a running metajoke?

Aw man this is so nice to hear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV2FFNVmJQI

the electric piano outtake version of "went to see the gypsy" is A++

yeah it's something isn't it? nothing else remotely like it in his career.

wish it were on youtube or something for other folks

Listened to the album on a road trip today!

this record has a sort of The Band vibe, but with a lighter touch

I'll say it again: I love Dylan's piano on this.

wish it were on youtube or something for other folks
i think it was released officially on some kind of itunes comp, but maybe just in the UK?

at this point in my life whenever i'm like 'hey i'd like to listen to some bob dylan right now' i usually go with this or self portrait

"How are you?" he said to me/I said it back to him

^^best dylan lyric ever

if only had to listen to one dylan song for the rest of my life it would easily be "Went To See the Gypsy"

i went down to the lob-beh

that little minnesota towwwwwn

there's some chatter in the dylan community that the next bootleg series is going to be made up of 1969-70 sessions. which is a good idea!

oooh!

he can move you from the rear

charlie daniels kills it on this record

haha awesome:

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pro tip: don't read any other tweets by mr. daniels

wow!

is russ kunkel on twitter

only reference to him on twitter i could find (assuming this is the same dude, glad he's still getting good paying gigs!)

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the kunk! he's got a cool resume. the go-to folk/country/rock session drummer! guess he's been with lovett forever now.

The back cover art of this album is so wtf, with that irrelevent Victoria Spivey photo and the album title in quotes with a kinda used-cars font - it's like he hoped it would be mistaken for a cheap bootleg or something.

yeah it is pretty random, wonder what the thinking was.
i read some essay a long time ago that made the claim that if dylan was bearded on the front album photograph it meant that it was not an actual bob dylan album.

Sounds like a Weberman theory

yeah i don't think it was weberman, but it was along those lines.

My favorite line on this album is "once had a sweetheart she was fine and good lookin / I'd sit in the kitchen while her mama was cookin."

Columbus OH's The Randys tell me their Christmas party set will incl that Brave Combo version of "Must Be Santa" Dylan exuberantly cloned--followed or preceded by "Winterlude"!

(I love both those)

haha m@tt this made me so happy

the man in me will hide sometimes, to keep from being seen

aw bob

Build me a cabin in Utah
Marry me a wife
catch rainbow trout
Have a bunch of kids
who call me “Pa”

That must be what it’s all about

So good. Brighton girls are like the moon.

Jennifer Warnes taking a decent MOR crack at it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlQG1ctPypU

horn overdubs

thinkin bob might have made a mistake there

Heard this -- and Nashville Skyline, and Self Portrait -- for the first time two days ago. Of those three, I like New Morning the best (Self Portrait isn't that bad...some songs are hideous, some are meh, a few are brilliant, most of the arrangements are shit).

I like New Morning a lot, and love some of it, but like I said on the poll thread, I think it's a bit of a head fake. The title (and title track) suggest a level of assurance that the album doesn't actually have. It's like he's trying to will himself into some new phase that hasn't really come into focus yet. You can sense Blood on the Tracks coming a little way off but he's not to that level of self-awareness and renewed confidence yet. And "Father of Night" prefigures the born again years, too.

Good points.
Tarfumes, try Another Self-Portrait, or anyway the 15-track sampler on Spotify: some keepers, though the New Morning outtakes are understandablly that ("Sign On The Window" is more effective without those nice horns). Would have preferred "Working On A Guru"'s inclusion on NM, humorously/wistfully balancing the corn in "Sign", though other original-release tracks balance it better. "If Dogs Run Free" is the genius move there. Hit it Baby.

i don't see why blood on the tracks should be the standard

Not "the standard," it just to me sounds like a guy in mature control of what he's doing and how and why. New Morning is more tentative -- part of its charm, really.

New Morning, at least some of it, was salvaged from an aborted project he was doing with an author.

Archibald MacLeish, I think.

Yeah, but after Nashville Skyline and Self-Portrait, it worked as more of a How I Got This Way: the desperate little Van Morrison-esque outbursts, where he just wouldn't have a clue and it wouldn't ring true, if not for you; the disappointment of "Gypsy", the desolate self=pity of "Sign", the paranoid flight from "Locusts", even, back in the saftey zone, restlessness gradually becoming desperate once again: "Time passes slowly when you're lost in a dream!" So, escapism of those other albums aside, here it's more like he admits, hell, he's (almost) tried everything else. The title song celebrates provisional, historical, get-it-while-you-can new mornings: "Auto-mo-beel, comin' into style"[ the bare dryness of some tracks goes with the bloomin' beauty of others; the randiness and rolling Crumb grooves of "One More Weekend," and "If Dogs Run Free". Dad's tales "Three Angels" and "Father of Night" (little did we know what these were symptoms of). Hiding coz he doesn't wanna turn into some machine is a plausible/characteristic enough alibi too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bsx9YBV9EnM&list=RDBsx9YBV9EnM#t=9

I listened to "Father of Night" about 12 times on repeat a few evenings ago.

Cool. Do you know Manfred Mann's cover? Several posts of this, incl even longer live versions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ0VCr3Y8Pg

Other posts of the Persuasions cover as well.

woah!!!

http://recordmecca.com/news/bob-dylan-149-unknown-acetates-from-w-houston-street-studio/

Holy shit.

wow

not to be a total downer, but i expect most of this will not be terribly interesting (rough mixes mostly)? happy to be proven wrong though ...

are you suggesting i'm not terribly interested in self-portrait rough mixes??? :P

I'm more just surprised at the kind of shit people have stashed away, forgotten.

Some of these bootleggers, they make pretty good stuff
Plenty of places to hide things here if you wanna hide ’em bad enough

haaa

The "holy shit" is really at the find, as a life-long garage saler and trawler of junk bins. That "I've found the mother lode" moment. Clearly this was not a dollar-bin scenario but still, the idea that there is treasure out there not-yet-found is pretty awesome.

thing this, as the post notes, columbia/sony probably already has masters of all this stuff, from which the stuff on "another self portrait" was selected.

yeah and even the stuff he mentions as unreleased is out there in various forms:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6r1i-aNWbg
http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2013/08/15/bob-dylan-tomorrow-is-a-long-time-new-morning-outtake-1970/
still I'd be interested to see if anything cool turns up as he goes through it all.

but yeah, truly amazing that this stuff was just sitting around!

so much lovely guitar playing on this record

even the acoustic guitars go figure

Dave Marsh calls “Went to See the Gypsy” an “obvious Elvis parable” in those old RS Record Guides (Big Red and Bog Blue); that was the only time I heard that idea mentioned until the liner notes of the Bootleg Series set, where Greil Marcus calls it, “...for reasons I have never grasped the dominant reading of the song.”

I’ll let those krusty rock-krit guys duke it out... though I suppose I fall more on GM’s side. What makes it an “obvious” Elvis parable, the reference to Las Vegas? Did Elvis famously visit Minnesota and Dylan paid him a visit, or
Something?

(That was meant to say “Big Blue,” but “Bog Blue” is more appropriate... my copy looks like it was fished out of a bog. And Marsh’s write-ups tend to be Bog Basic. He only gives “Planet Waves” two stars! I really don’t think that guy listened very deeply to most of the albums he wrote up... except maybe in the case of the Who, his personal Godhead.)

maybe Bob's happiest record

love the vibe of this record, every time i put it on it's like "has this actually become my favorite bob dylan album?" in overview too many of the songs are kinda forgettable, and bob plays piano like he started taking lessons last month, but it's got this great hazy/drunk/loose quality that i really love. "man in me" is an all-timer and i get "day of the locusts" stuck in my head all the time.

I love how he plays piano, it's primitive but it works, he has a cool rhythmic momentum, he plays piano like drums

love New Morning to death, even little throwaway lines stick with me so much

"How are you? he said to me
so I said it back to him"

There’s a life insurance commercial or something in heavy rotation right now that prominently uses “The Man in Me.”

I love this album.

Hmmm I never ever managed to get into that one but then again I havent put it on in 15 years so maybe middle-aged me would warm up to it

middle-aged you is waiting at the cabin for young rebellious you to get over your shit and settle into cozy domestic adequacy!!! cmon!

yeah this is a top tier Bob album imo

middle-aged you is waiting at the cabin for young rebellious you to get over your shit and settle into cozy domestic adequacy!!! cmon!

― j., Thursday, October 17, 2019

with rainbot trout and kids who call you "Pa."

every time i put it on it's like "has this actually become my favorite bob dylan album?"

blood on the tracks is always #1, but new morning is in a constant epic battle with freewheelin' for that #2 spot.

great album, JWH through NM is my favorite Dylan era

post-Lebowski "The Man in Me" seems to have become one of his most ubiquitous and familiar tunes, much more so than the NM single "If Not for You"

Oh I didn't know it was in that movie

yeah it definitely big upped the profile of that song. It's in that stupid beer commercial w Jeff Bridges too

it is pretty great in lebowski

whenever i listen to new morning now, so many of the songs sound like he chose the demo versions — there are some much more fleshed out arrangements on Another Self Portrait. The title track with a big horn section, symphonic Sign On The Window, a rocked out Time Passes Slowly etc. Not necessarily better, just interesting.

tbh I think Lebowski was where I first heard The Man in Me, that album was not widely available in the 90s

def was my way in, was just coming back to post about how its pop-cultural status maybe overshadows what a great song and performance it is. the hoarse la-la-la voice, "TURN INTO SOME MACHINE," the ooooo backing vocals... dylan throwing it all out there.

symphonic Sign On The Window

Love this version. Might be my favorite thing on that box.

LOVE this album. Such cozy, Sunday morning warm-blanket vibes. Also Went to See the Gypsy is one of his best vocal performances.

that orchestral sign on the window is pretty crazy just for how they had to build it over dylan's totally off-kilter piano ... i'm sure the strings players were a little mystified at the overdub session haha.

My number one Dylan for sure. Planet Waves comes close though!

Those are two great Dylan albums, you have good taste!

Planet Waves is a slog

and the best song ("Nobody 'Cept You") was left off of it!

pw is the greatest, unless u are a stanking bar stool

planet waves is not a slog outside of “dirge”

“Three Angels” is really something. Just a perfect little song.

Wonderful, lovely record. Unsure if I've said that before here.

I just put this on and heard the locusts in "Day of the Locusts" for the first time!
Of all Dylan's records this one sounds like he had the most fun doing it. I love the congested casual sound too, just sounds like hitting tape and doing a rough mix on the fly. "Gypsy" is my favourite (some days it's my favourite Dylan song).

the part where he goes "saw the sun come up on that little minnesota tooooooowwn...that liiiitle miiinesooota tooown!" part gets me crunk if i've had a few..home pride!

― M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, September 17, 2007 12:52 PM (thirteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Love this and the short little outro jam right after.

new morning just makes me happy in general

best bob drinking album actually...

^^still otm

In this concrete world full of souls
The angels play on their horns all day
The whole earth in progression seems to pass by
But does anyone hear the music they play
Does anyone even try?

I love the juxtaposition of “the wildest cat from Montana passes by in flash” followed by “then a lady in bright orange dress”

This album has his best piano playing. I love those runs after singing the chorus of "Day of the Locusts."

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, September 17, 2007

HE DID IT IN LAS VEGAS AND HE CAN DO IT HERE

classic obv... I love the sequencing

I even like “when dogs run free”.. the whole album is so warm and welcoming that I’m like “yeah it’s ok go ahead have a goof, bob”

Great late summer evening album.

so happy just to be alive

the second time bob verges into the "la-la-la-la" vocals on "man in me" is so so beautiful.

I love the alternate version of “Time Passes Slowly” on Another Self Portrait, also has great la-la-la’s

Dylan in the studio recording "The Man In Me":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBWAyvp_mtQ

AWESOME

hell yeah

Love it

So cool. That huff and smile at the ending are the best. Thanks!

If he regularly played piano standing up while recording, that could explain why he hits so many off notes on this album.

wow that's amazing

absolutely

That huff and smile at the ending are the best.

So cute!

Miraculous footage

If he regularly played piano standing up while recording, that could explain why he hits so many off notes on this album.

― Halfway there but for you,

Glorious off notes. This is my favorite Dylan-on-piano album.

Oh wow

Tim-O-Tay dropped a deep cut on SNL last night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6dCTnnoVsI

I never really liked "Three Angels" (or "Father of Night" for that matter). Bold choice but still every bit as underwhelming.

I wish "Spanish Is the Loving Tongue" had been included on New Morning. (The actual take used for the B-side. A good alternate take was used for Another Self Portrait, but for whatever reason, the master take remains out-of-print in the U.S. I had to get mine from the CD reissue of the Japan-only compilation Masterpieces. It's also on the German CD Pure Dylan but sounding a bit harsh there.) I actually slotted it in as the opener on iTunes/Apple Music.

cringe

It's not exactly good music. But i do respect the choice.

If he had memorized farewell Angelina that would have been epic

Sorry birdistheword, but you cannot improve on New Morning. It is as good as it gets.