Does anybody up in this bitch like FREESTYLE?

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If you go to the Virgin store in Union Square there are racks and RACKS of freestyle CDs... so..... what's the deal???

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

new "surprise me somebody" answers....

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The guy who used to be in the Arsonists who did that "Rockin' Tha Mic" track with the Prunes?

Judd Nelson, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yesyes Latin Freestyle I like it. I know mainly what I hear on the radio, but one of my fav. DJs has mixalbums whose tracklists are probably a good place to start. See here. Fierce Freestyle Classics 2 is probably the one to get because "When I Hear Music" by Debbie Deb is like the best thing ever.

Sterling Clover, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sterling the fact that you're into this music is less surprising than.... a very unsurprising thing

i THINK i know what this music sounds like - my imagination of it is like Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis producing vocal trance tracks - but what else?

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

and for posterity's sake this thread was inspired by that one

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dry skittery drums with big wide syncopated downbeats. Exciting synth runs and burbles all over the place. Cute happy lovesong vocals with substantial lyrics. More upbeat, more songful, and more rhythmically spazmodic than house. Cheap, trashy, and fun. Most substantial crossover was in late 80s R&B. Also search Jaya (who is HUGE outside the states), Lisa Lisa, and The Cover Girls.

This stuff belongs on cheap tapes sold on the sidewalk, just like "Breakdance Beats" did back in 1983.

Sterling Clover, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Also occasional latin keyboard vamps, but not that often rilly.

Sterling Clover, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam ahoy!!

so i did some Interweb digging and apparently Blondie had a cult freestyle crossover hit with somebody's remix of "In Love With Love"... (info from here)

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Latin Rascals!!!

stirmonster, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This is what they play on college radio in San Jose. It's totally fantastic.

Kris, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ha ha Tracer - ya missed me playin' Debbie Deb "When I Hear Music" down at Halcyon on Tuesday!

Paul, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

guh i want to say that it's the projects i have to walk through to get there (ok maybe it is a little bit) ... but mainly i simply suck. also the furniture is off-putting.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I live in San Diego, where there isn't as much freestyle around as you'd imagine. I've noticed though that some of the new artful dodger/ed case styled 2-step (stuff like Love Don't Love Me and Something in Your Eyes) is starting to sound like freestyle to my gringo ears.

Is "Don't Stop the Rock" by Freestyles freestyle?

vahid fozi, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Anybody remember "Straight to the Heart" by Melissa, from '88 or so? I loved that song.

Destroy: "Bad of the Heart" by George LaMond.

Douglas, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hey Tracer Hoof, What does "up in this bitch" mean? One more question; Do you know what school is? If so, go!

JuJu, Friday, 26 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

haha you sure told him.

Sterling Clover, Friday, 26 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Expose's freestyle, ya? (Who did "Point of No Return"? oh OHH OHH! You're taking MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ... to the point of no return, OHH BABY YEAH!)

Daver, Friday, 26 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

so what other tracks are as good as "when i hear music" (except "come on weekend", obviously)?

toby, Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Is "freestyle" the same thing as "Latin hip-hop"? I've always assumed that it was but I may be wrong. I've got a compilation from 1988 called "An Introduction to Latin Hip-Hop". It includes tracks such as "Do you Wanna Dance" by the Bad Boy Orchestra and "Clave Rocks" by Amoretto. The music on the album sounds very similar to Sterling's description of freestyle. I think that the earliest example I've heard of this kind of music is "Let the music play" by Shannon.

Mark Dixon, Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Is "freestyle" the same thing as "Latin hip-hop"?

yep! Freestyle as a musical style is one that people often have trouble describing. The humourous cliche, which is true to some degree, is that every tune is based on "Planet Rock" beats with latina pop vocals tacked on (oh no - not Kraftwerk as godfathers again?!). At its '80s peak, though, lots of jams could fit with freestyle mode - electro like Shannon, beat-heavy pop like Sheila E and most of all Madonna's first album! Think loud electrofunk drumbeats'n'basslines with poppy vocals, quite common in 80's pop in general.

Freestyle tends to be popular in certain regions, especially with high Hispanic population or radio stations that support the format. In those places, no one needs freestyle described, cos it just means the same thing as Pop, right?

Paul, Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

nine months pass...
Check this, a'ight?

http://www.mixedmusic.com/music/Vfreestyle.mp3

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 31 January 2003 22:21 (twenty-three years ago)

where's Kogan? He wrote the damn Freestyle CHAPTER in the Spin Alternative Record Guide.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 31 January 2003 22:45 (twenty-three years ago)

I've got a compilation from 1988 called "An Introduction to Latin Hip-Hop". It includes tracks such as "Do you Wanna Dance" by the Bad Boy Orchestra

OOOOOHHHH! I love Bad Boy Orchestra, I even wrote 102 words about them once!!!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 31 January 2003 23:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Toby meant to write "Lookout Weekend."

Despite what you might've heard, for instance when listening to the record, the lyrics to "When I Hear Music" go "When I hear music, it makes me dance/You've got the music IN YOUR PANTS." (This according to my friend Naomi's children.)

When my friend Patty Stirling heard "Lookout Weekend," she thought that Debbie was singing about "fuck machines and razor blades." See the Flashdance chapter in The Accidental History of Rock 'N' Roll, where this is used to demonstrate that you don't have to add darkness to disco, since the darkness is already there. (Hence the non-necessity of most Industrial Music, I'd say.)

Sterling and Paul have described it well; I'd add that Freestyle had long, snaking background riffs, just like a lot of Europop/Eurodisco/Hi-NRG, except freestyle put two such snake-riffs where Europop would only put one. The Miami sound tended towards lightness; New York freestyle had fiercer beats and as it developed in the '80s evolved sliding, Spanish-Mideast mournful vocal stylizations.

Chuck Eddy (in Why Music Sucks #9, when I'd hit him with Judy Torres's "No Reason to Cry" under the blindfold): "How many of these kinds of records do you need, Frank? I mean, your obsession with this stuff sort of reminds me of those dweebs who collect every last sub-Pebbles '60s garage compilation."

Frank's Top 8 (alphabetical):
Company B "Fascinated"
Corina "Temptation"
The Cover Girls "Inside Outside"
Cynthia "Change On Me"
Debbie Deb "When I Hear Music"
Lisette Melendez "A Day In My Life Without You"
Sequel "It's Not Too Late"
Judy Torres "Come Into My Arms"

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 1 February 2003 23:25 (twenty-three years ago)

And as long as I'm here and confronted with someone who's actually read that Spin guide, there's a goof not of my making in my freestyle piece, and I'd like to correct it for the record. I thought that the lyrics that I quoted from Cynthia's "Endless Nights" ("Please, make this an endless night") were indeed from "Endless Nights," but some fact-checker there decided they were from "Love Me Tonight," and that's what was printed. Grrr.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 1 February 2003 23:33 (twenty-three years ago)


I'd add some progressive freestyle to that list:
Angelina "Release Me"
Planet Soul "Set U Free"

And don't forget:
Lil Suzy "Take Me in Your Arms"
Two Without Hats "Three on a Mic"

Anybody who compiles all the tracks on this thread has a damn good freestyle tape. In the meantime, I'd suggest "Thump'n Freestyle Quick Mixx vol. 1" and "Street Jams Electric Funk pt. 2" (especially the first, it's mixed by one of the Latin Rascals).

Mount Sims - nouveau hipster freestyle from LA?

Is Vanilla Ice freestyle?

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 05:21 (twenty-three years ago)

there are four great latin rascals megamixes at: http://www.deephousepage.com/mixes12.htm

(also some shep pettibone)

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 05:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Not that those mixtress tapes don't look mighty fresh.

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 05:25 (twenty-three years ago)

I used to listen to the mixtress all the time in the bay area. i totally miss wild 949 especially now that they've taken down their web station.

Lisette Melendez is absolutely one of the freestyle greats.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 06:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Whatta link!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 07:39 (twenty-three years ago)

also search

Jossette- In a Dream

and "funky little beat" (also by debbie deb?)

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 07:47 (twenty-three years ago)

I went to Florida recently, having never ever even seen freestyle for sale in the UK and was surprised that it's actually really good. The dubs are always better than the vocals though, hey?

I liked:

TKA - "One way love" (dub)
Sweet Sensation - "Never let you go" (Omar Santana dub)
Sweet Sensation - "Hooked on you" (Diamond dub)
Expose - "Point of no return" (dub)

All about those echoey drum breakdowns and that cd-sticking type effect...

Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 11:12 (twenty-three years ago)

two months pass...
Revive to say how Buffy's "Give Me" is one of the great things to ever come into my life!!!!!

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 14 April 2003 01:35 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread went this far with no mention of "Let The Music Play"??

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 14 April 2003 01:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I think that the earliest example I've heard of this kind of music is "Let the music play" by Shannon.
-- Mark Dixon (LTuersle...), April 27th, 2002 2:00 PM.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 14 April 2003 03:10 (twenty-two years ago)

At its '80s peak, though, lots of jams could fit with freestyle mode - electro like Shannon

-- Paul (scifisou...), April 27th, 2002 2:00 PM.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 14 April 2003 03:12 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread went so far without me actually reading it?!

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 14 April 2003 03:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Been very into Alisha's "All Night Passion" and Cynthia's "Thinking About You" lately. The first cuz it ROCKS, the second mostly for the "la la la la la" part, which really deserves to be in a much better song.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 27 April 2003 01:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Lisette Melendez "A Day In My Life Without You"

this is also good.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 27 April 2003 01:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm surprised no one's mentioned "Let the Music Play".

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 27 April 2003 02:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm surprised you didn't just post that.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 27 April 2003 02:35 (twenty-two years ago)

3 Words: SON OF BAZERK.

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Sunday, 27 April 2003 02:36 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
>Freestyle tends to be popular in certain regions, especially with >high Hispanic population or radio stations that support the format. >In those places, no one needs freestyle described, cos it just >means the same thing as Pop, right?

I grew up in Florida. Freestyle was either "skating rink music" or "that music my sketchy, teenage cousins I hate listen to in their stupid tricked out cars."

I think it may be due for some kind of revival, which makes me all happy and proud of my redneck home.

me, Monday, 18 October 2004 14:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I agree with me about the revival and I love Alisha, Debbie Deb, C-Bank, Jenny Burton, Trinere, Connie, Denise Lopez (is she Freestyle?) and loooads more. I can't say enough how ACE the Debbie Deb album is, and if anyone has it please say so so I can pester you for the last track off it.

Affectian (Affectian), Monday, 18 October 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I have this; it's a good mix. Though I find I can't really sit and listen to one freestyle track after another for hours on end; it's better with a DJ switching it up.

morris pavilion (samjeff), Monday, 18 October 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

"Ooooh! Oh! Diamond Girl!"

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 18 October 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I just got Diamond Girl yesterday...

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 18 October 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Search: "Silent Morning"! (and no, not the Rapture song).

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

See also: "Bad Of The Heart", George Lamond.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I was walking in Central Park with a girlfriend back in '89 and we saw Noel, wearing a big fur coat, walking two Irish Setters. He was living purty large back then.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Noel being Noel of "Silent Morning" fame. Also, I used to frequent a club called Hearththrobs back in them days and that was The Mecca of Freestyle. Latin Rascals dj'ed there just about every week, and India, Ten City (not freestyle, but, hey), Sa'Fire and I can't remember who else were a few of the people I saw perform there.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I went to the same college as Angelina. She referred to herself as the "Puff Daddy of Latin House"

still bevens (bscrubbins), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

who named this genre latin freestyle? i mean, i love it, but whats latin about it (ok ok, latinos make it) and whats freestyle about it? most misleading genre name after acid jazz.

bulbs (bulbs), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Freestyle? Now that was an excellent Swedish early 80s act :-)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, can someone explain the origins of the name because it's not all that free, it's all tight punchy hooks and lazer noises.

Is Silent Morning Noel the same as Dancing Is Dangerous Noel? (the latter sure does sound like the Maels..). Not big on former Noel, I think I only like the Freestyle girlz. Apart from the guy who sang for the Freestyle who did 'Freestyle Express' - Pretty Tony?

Affectian (Affectian), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, Pretty Tony, he pretty much if not invented, cemented the genre with Jam the Box and the Debbie Deb records then>

Freestyle-Don't Stop the Rock, It's Automatic etc. I think that's where it came from.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you know of any good online articles about Pretty Tony? Haven't heard any of the early Tony Butler stuff but would like to.

Also, what's the link between Miami Bass and Latin Freestyle? Is there one?

Affectian (Affectian), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

i have the debbie deb album; it's been getting a lot of play around here lately.

paranoia is the hipster's disease (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 21 October 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Sa'Fire is irredeemable tosh, however.

Oh, and Cover Girls! God bless 'em. Their version of "Sukiyaki" is the best one I know.

Plus, plus, freestyle as the beginning of the bizarre production career of Omar Santana, a journey taking in acid hip-house (Brooklyn Bandits), Gabba and the invention of "Hard Hop".

I thought the window of opportunity for a freestyle revival had kinda passed, but who knows, we may still get lucky.

Jacob (Jacob), Thursday, 21 October 2004 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
WHATS UP EVERY BODY, THIS PRETTY TONY AS IN FREESTYLE,TRINERE,DEBBIE DEB ETC.
I JUST BUILT A BRAND NEW STUDIO IN MIAMI FOR MY RETURN BACK TO FREE STYLE MUSIC.
AS YOU ALL MAY KNOW JANET JACKSON JUST REMADE ONE OF MY SONGS (LOOK OUT WEEKEND BY DEBBIE DEB). LOTS OF VERY BIG ARTIST ARE REQUESTING PERMISSION FROM ME TO REMAKE LOTS OF MY SONGS AND FOR ME TO PRODUCE NEW ONES FOR THEM, I HAVE TO SAY WHAT A WELCOME BACK. ANY WAY I AM CONSTRUCTING A MY SPACE SITE, IT WILL BE MY SPACE/ PRETTY TONY ENTERTAINMENT, AND MY EMAIL ADD. WILL BE prettytony@bellsouth.net ITS GOOD TO BE BACK IN THE STUDIO.
HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU ALL SOON.

PRETTY TONY.

pretty tony, Friday, 26 May 2006 09:03 (nineteen years ago)

WOW! i was just listening to a ton of freestyle (pretty tony tracks) yesterday.

i think pappawheelie (where's he at?) might just poop in his pants

jäxøñ (jaxon), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

JANET JACKSON JUST REMADE ONE OF MY SONGS (LOOK OUT WEEKEND BY DEBBIE DEB)

Awesome. Pretty Tony, keep us posted on here about Myspace and any new releases.

Affectian (Affectian), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't jermaine dupri say he wanted to make janet's album like an 80s throwback, like human league or something?

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, shitting my pamps now...

PappaWheelie B.C., Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

Sure.

Excellent Swedish 80s band. "Fantasi" is a classic album that should be reissued.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 1 June 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

eleven months pass...
there's a miami radio station that has freestyle lunch hours now

lfam, Friday, 11 May 2007 23:17 (eighteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

is it on the web?! this was my favorite music when i was a kid & i'm having a hard time finding much now!

daria-g, Sunday, 27 May 2007 07:52 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.amazon.com/Freestyle-Explosion-Vol-Various-Artists/dp/B00004SZW0

Spencer Chow, Sunday, 27 May 2007 10:51 (eighteen years ago)

I played Company B out tonight - still works.

Spencer Chow, Sunday, 27 May 2007 10:52 (eighteen years ago)

The first volume of that box set, available separately, is U+K (as are the others, but Volume 1 is all killer).

Spencer Chow, Sunday, 27 May 2007 10:56 (eighteen years ago)

Here's my own: va - Freestyle portable CD80 Go!

Cover Girls - Show Me You Really Love Me
Expose - Let Me Be The One
Pretty Poison - Catch Me (I'm Falling)
Expose - Point of No Return
Company B - Fascinated
Debbie Deb - Lookout Weekend
Noel - Silent Morning
Lisette Melendez - Together Forever
Nice 'N' Wild - Diamond Girl
Shannon - 12 - Let The Music Play
Pet Shop Boys - 03 - Domino Dancing
Freestyle - 01 - Don't Stop The Rock
Debbie Deb - 07 - When I Hear Music
Corina - Temptation
Nu Shooz - I Can't Wait (Extended)

Spencer Chow, Sunday, 27 May 2007 11:01 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, thanks for reminding me of "Catch Me I'm Falling." I've said before, I remember liking some of this stuff at the time (and some related things), without having any idea that it was called "Latin Freestyle." (My tastes were so much more ILM in the 80s.)

Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 27 May 2007 13:19 (eighteen years ago)

I'd been listening to Blur's "13" album again last week, after not hearing it in years...there's that song 'Trailer Park' I believe...when he says

FREESTYLE...45....

And the music on that song is incredible, too...and all he keeps saying "Freestyle/45"...

Bimble, Sunday, 27 May 2007 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

freestyle lunch was BIG in nyc

Michael F Gill, Sunday, 27 May 2007 13:31 (eighteen years ago)

That Company B track is so awesome.

Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 27 May 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

I am still looking for Freestyle's 1981 album "Fantasi". I doubt it's even released on CD though.

Geir Hongro, Monday, 28 May 2007 10:40 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

God, I haven't heard this song since early '85. A gem:

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 03:25 (seventeen years ago)

one of THE most ubiquitous used records, in NYC at least.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 04:43 (seventeen years ago)

OMG i remember this!!! this song was on the dance music countdown shows that i used to listen to when i was in grade school. this is in a small town in appalachia :) i never saw the video until now though. fantastic.

unsportsmanlike snow angel (daria-g), Tuesday, 23 December 2008 06:12 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

FREESTYLE FRIDAY

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Friday, 20 March 2009 19:23 (seventeen years ago)

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Friday, 20 March 2009 19:23 (seventeen years ago)

JVLC17 (1 month ago) +7 Reply
Freestyle music needs to make a comeback because today's music is complete garbage and who ever said freestyle music sucks has no good taste in music at all.

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Friday, 20 March 2009 19:23 (seventeen years ago)

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Friday, 20 March 2009 19:25 (seventeen years ago)

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Friday, 20 March 2009 19:25 (seventeen years ago)

i would be all over this thread if i didn't have to leave the house in 20 minutes

lex pretend, Friday, 20 March 2009 19:35 (seventeen years ago)

but lex!!! its freestyle friday!!!!

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Friday, 20 March 2009 19:36 (seventeen years ago)

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Friday, 20 March 2009 19:38 (seventeen years ago)

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Friday, 20 March 2009 19:40 (seventeen years ago)

lex pretend, Friday, 20 March 2009 19:44 (seventeen years ago)

lex pretend, Friday, 20 March 2009 19:45 (seventeen years ago)

lex pretend, Friday, 20 March 2009 19:46 (seventeen years ago)

freestyle friday!!!!!!!

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Friday, 20 March 2009 19:47 (seventeen years ago)

Can't fine Trinere: "How Can We Be Wrong?" or Sa-Fire: "Don't Break My Heart" so try some Denise Lopez

Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 20 March 2009 19:48 (seventeen years ago)

Can't find them either

Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 20 March 2009 19:48 (seventeen years ago)

a couple of newish freestyle-influenced cuts - why there hasn't been a full blown revival yet i have no idea

lex pretend, Friday, 20 March 2009 19:50 (seventeen years ago)

goole, Friday, 20 March 2009 19:50 (seventeen years ago)

im doing my best to make that revival happen with FREESTYLE FRIDAY

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Friday, 20 March 2009 19:50 (seventeen years ago)

also lol all you want but tell me this isn't freestyle revival

lex pretend, Friday, 20 March 2009 19:51 (seventeen years ago)

more pretty poison, kind of a acid tip on this one

xps

goole, Friday, 20 March 2009 19:53 (seventeen years ago)

xposts indeed why HASN'T there been a MASSIVE revival!

Sheesh can't even find "A Little Bit of Ecstasy" on YT. There was a slammin' housier mix of that too but I can't recall by whom.

Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 20 March 2009 19:53 (seventeen years ago)

Can't find "Together Forever" but here's Judy Torres: "No Reason To Cry" (Jackie Jack Records 1986)

Oh gawd what a gorgeous song! And Glenn Friscia's All Night House Party Remix (not on YT) is one of the finest house tracks of the 1990s.

Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 20 March 2009 20:02 (seventeen years ago)

Actually that's some dub but it's still lovely.

Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 20 March 2009 20:07 (seventeen years ago)

I find this to be very freestyle sounding:

Mirror-spangled elephant head (J@cob), Saturday, 21 March 2009 05:36 (seventeen years ago)

Up until the breakbeat comes in, obviously.

Mirror-spangled elephant head (J@cob), Saturday, 21 March 2009 05:37 (seventeen years ago)

Is this a freestyle comp?

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Power-Jam-85/release/1632849

and if so is it any good?

mmmm, Saturday, 21 March 2009 06:47 (seventeen years ago)

btw my friend daniel runs 7 year glitch, it's a great resource for freestyle, miami bass &c

lex pretend, Saturday, 21 March 2009 11:53 (seventeen years ago)

hey that blog is kickass!

Plaxico (I know, right?), Saturday, 21 March 2009 14:08 (seventeen years ago)

btw ws

http://blog.7yearglitch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/image-4-98773jpeg.jpg

Plaxico (I know, right?), Saturday, 21 March 2009 14:08 (seventeen years ago)

six years pass...

just learned that denise lopez' hits were written by the guys from the marbles, an early cbgb-era pop rock band i was quite fond of. fun fact.

Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 12 September 2015 14:52 (ten years ago)

one year passes...

I made a list of thirty jams.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 March 2017 12:51 (nine years ago)

Fantastic timing. I just put my entire freestyle library on my iPod just the other day.

The Flautist of Flatus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 2 March 2017 13:01 (nine years ago)

YES. you got a list?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 March 2017 13:06 (nine years ago)

That's a great write-up, Alfred. And you listed many - maybe most - of my personal favorites. I used to listen to this stuff on Power 96 also.

I can never decide which Judy Torres record is more brilliant, your pick "Come Into My Arms" or "No Reason to Cry." It's hard to choose one Trinere record as well.

These jams still sound slamming when you hear them coming off a 12" in a club. It never ceases to amaze me.

Josefa, Thursday, 2 March 2017 14:14 (nine years ago)

xpost Ehhhhh...not as such. I just have a ton of full albums and compilations I'm shuffling through at the moment. Imma scroll through and see which of my top jams didn't make it onto your list.

It occurred to me the other day that the extended bout of oversinging at the end of Exposé's 'What You Don't Know' would possibly be the most fun thing ever to massacre at karaoke.

The Flautist of Flatus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 2 March 2017 14:19 (nine years ago)

LOL I used to do that Exposé bit at parties in college, just a cappella, to stunned silence

Josefa, Thursday, 2 March 2017 14:27 (nine years ago)

Thaaaaat's amazing. Bravo.

The Flautist of Flatus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 2 March 2017 14:36 (nine years ago)

oh wow – I had no idea people loved "What You Don't Know." Those big three singles from the followup never get mentioned much.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 March 2017 14:38 (nine years ago)

Keep in mind that I lived in FL in the midst of the freestyle boom years. I have a fondness for this stuff that far exceeds that of most people I've encountered up north.

The Flautist of Flatus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 2 March 2017 14:51 (nine years ago)

Here are some favorites of mine not on Alfred's list:

Sequal - It's Not Too Late
Sweet Sensation - Hooked on You
Shy Rose - I Cry For You
Amoretto - Clave Rocks
Natasha - Be Gentle with My Heart
Cynthia & Johnny O - Dreamboy/Dreamgirl

+ anything by Trinere on the Jam-Packed label

Josefa, Thursday, 2 March 2017 14:58 (nine years ago)

I though about "Hooked On You." Man, was that jam omnipresent.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 March 2017 14:59 (nine years ago)

OL, I forgot about your 305 crew!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 March 2017 14:59 (nine years ago)

cred

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 March 2017 14:59 (nine years ago)

LOL, more like 904 "cred" but still. My family moved back to the Midwest in '90 and the difference between the respective regions' pop radio was STARK.

The Flautist of Flatus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 2 March 2017 15:37 (nine years ago)

Okay, I trawled through while trying to do the actual work I'm being paid to do and I'm sure I missed a lot of top notch stuff but here's a rough list of faves that weren't on Alfred's list:

Alisha - 'Bounce Back'
Connie - 'Funky Little Beat' (this one might be a personal fave, up there with 'Together Forever')
Cover Girls - 'My Heart Skips a Beat'
Cynthia - 'Change On Me'
Debbie Deb - 'Lookout Weekend'
Denise Lopez - 'Sayin' Sorry (Don't Make It Right)', 'If You Feel It'
Dino - 'Summer Girls', 'I Like It'
George Lamond - 'Look Into My Eyes'
Gina Go-Go - 'I Can't Face the Fact'
Jaya - 'If You Leave Me Now'
Johnny O & Cynthia - 'Dreamboy/Dreamgirl'
Linear - 'Sending All My Love'
Manuella - 'Don't Try To Come Back To Me'
Nice & Wild - 'Diamond Girl'
Pajama Party - 'Over and Over', 'Hide and Seek'
Rockell - 'In a Dream'
Sa-Fire - 'Gonna Make It'
Seduction - 'Two To Make It Right', 'Heartbeat'
Shana - 'I Want You', 'You Can't Get Away'
Stevie B. - 'Dreamin' of Love', 'Girl I Am Searching For You', 'In My Eyes', 'Love and Emotion'
Sweet Sensation - 'Take It While It's Hot', 'Hooked On You'
Tiana - 'First True Love'
Timmy T - 'Time After Time'
TKA - 'You Are The One', 'Crash (Have Some Fun)'
Trinere - 'I'll Be All You Ever Need'

The Flautist of Flatus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 2 March 2017 15:44 (nine years ago)

I love a lot of that list too… the Connie one really is great. What other record has that vibe?

I remember Shana's "I Want You" getting a lot of airplay - it's kind of simple, but memorable

My Sa-Fire pick would be "Let Me Be the One" and my Pajama Party pick would be "Yo No Sé"

Josefa, Thursday, 2 March 2017 18:38 (nine years ago)

five years pass...

Freestyle Festival 20th Anniversary show is in August (it’s been a long time since I’ve been to one of these, and I’m tempted). It’s interesting how long the “tail” of Freestyle fandom has been, after revival of interest* in the early 2000s, considering how relatively brief the style’s heyday was? (*of course many ppl never stopped liking it, but I’m talking about “nostalgia” shows like this one)

u swear (morrisp), Sunday, 13 March 2022 04:41 (four years ago)

Just noticed Tiffany is on that bill (and not near the top or highlighted)

u swear (morrisp), Sunday, 13 March 2022 04:43 (four years ago)

(also that bold text in my post was supposed to be two asterisks, if you’re reading this on Zing)

u swear (morrisp), Sunday, 13 March 2022 04:43 (four years ago)

Quite a lineup there. Didn't know the Flirts did this sort of show. I wonder which Flirts they are, there were so many of them, so many ladies. I also wonder which Lime this is, since a duo that is not the original couple has performed as Lime in recent years.

Josefa, Sunday, 13 March 2022 06:42 (four years ago)

I never knew that this kind of music had a name. “Freestyle” sounds like what rappers do when they rap off the top of their heads.

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 13 March 2022 13:46 (four years ago)

It's a quirky name, seemingly arbitrary. I think it comes from an act called Freestyle which was a project of the Miami producer "Pretty Tony" Butler (also produced Trinere, Debbie Deb). Freestyle the act made a couple of records circa 1984. Later (iirc) some customer in a record store said they wanted to hear some Freestyle-type records and so these other musically-related records got pulled in and started to get identified by that label. There was a period of uncertainty when a lot of people called it Latin Hip-Hop, or other names.

Josefa, Sunday, 13 March 2022 16:18 (four years ago)

feel like freestyle will always be a touchstone in the way that anything that makes dance music what it is today will be - c.f. belgian new beat and gabber, electro, hi nrg, etc.

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Sunday, 13 March 2022 17:08 (four years ago)

didn't see this one mentioned, halfway between freestyle and house

debra torre - conceal your love

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp-Ckn58Pho

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Sunday, 13 March 2022 17:12 (four years ago)

here's where i admit i have an issue with a lot of freestyle because often the singing is bad. i realize that's part of the charm and some singers do a lot with what they have. but yeah.

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Sunday, 13 March 2022 17:15 (four years ago)

I think the main thing about freestyle is that it sounds as good as ever, bc the producers knew what they were doing.

Also it's connected to a wide community more than most other dance genres are. If you grew up in or near a Latin American community it was your ongoing soundtrack.

Re: the singers, many of them were teenagers! Freestyle is kinda like the '60s girl group thing in that way.

Josefa, Sunday, 13 March 2022 17:22 (four years ago)

true

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Sunday, 13 March 2022 17:26 (four years ago)

early house was like this too with vocalists.

guess i'll be honest and say i don't mind a little more polish in my dance music.

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Sunday, 13 March 2022 17:26 (four years ago)

Another freestyle-house blend (from 1989):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAn_kZ9Boiw

Josefa, Sunday, 13 March 2022 17:38 (four years ago)


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