SOLANGE KNOWLES, omg the return of

BAORDS OF CANADNA

and lol yeah we all know how well janelle monae turned out but uhh damn those songs there are kinda good still

haha ilm gravy train, all aboard

LIL WAYNE WHAT ARE THE CHANCES?

jamming to feist and lemon jelly
inspiration

Champage Chronic Night Cap is pretty good damn

i believe i once claimed on here that this ginuwine had a bit of the campfire headphases about it

another welcome observation from yours truly

actually that's still not as bad as me being on the verge of accusing birdman's new single of cold jacking global communication - '14:31' the other day

(SRSLY THO, I HEAR IT??)

come back tynan delong

your time bruv

the only song I can remember hearing by her was a really bad ballad on the Johnson Family Vacation soundtrack, but she co-wrote/co-produced the best song on the last Kelly Rowland album, so I'm kinda curious to hear more solo stuff now.

this heat... that heat... amirite?

co-did 'upgrade u' and 'get me bodied' on b-day also.

i think have an old bargain bin 12 of hers with slim thug somewhere? she sports a kind of rasta beanie on the cover, is all i recall.

wow just looked on allmusic and even andy 'positive' k hasn't got much good to say about that kelly rowland album

must i really stand alone with the lex on this :(

i am always so slow to hear the mya in things! but squint yr ears and really we could pretend 'champagne etc etc' was her triumphant comeback

'white picket fence' is also deeply reminiscent but i can't quite place it

galaxy glimpse

^^ ?

The new single is pretty cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esVIk-aJNsg

I'm weirdly addicted to this tonight.

thats really good. surprising. better than estelle.

why is that so good?

solange sings? what?

cant find an mp3 for this anywhere though.

it reminds me of MIA

(something about the quick vox in the middle. i know it's a weird comparison just LET IT BE)

the neptunes produced this right?

solange>>>beyonce.

well if this song is any indication

solange>>>beyonce
Word.

Better quality video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iblsi-himM

Yes, this was produced by The Neptunes. I can't wait to hear the BoC track(s).

saw the clip this afternoon. it's fantastic. then i saw the new madonna clip w pharrell. DA YUCK. god what a load of crap.

the "i decided" video is like tailor-made for me and my interests/preferred aesthetic. i have to turn the tv up all the way when it comes on.

this year is shaping up to be pretty amazing... new amerykah, janelle monae, solange, jazmine sullivan, etc.

Select members of the press and other industry VIPs gathered at Record Plant Studios in Hollywood to hear Solange Knowles’ sophomore album SoL-AngeL and The Hadley St. Dreams. Solange’s father/manager Mathew Knowles previewed 14 tracks off the singer/songwriter’s LP, which he says is 95% final. The soul/pop album combines elements of Motown with electronic music, channeling Amy Winehouse, Gnarls Barkley, and even Björk.

The 21-year-old worked with producers such as The Neptunes, Mark Ronson (Amy Winehouse, Lily Allen), Jack Splash (Alicia Keys, John Legend), and Gnarls’ Cee-Lo Green. Guests include Lil Wayne, Q-Tip, Bilal, and Floetry’s Marsha Ambrosia. Mr. Knowles revealed that a Duffy collaboration with Raphael Saadiq is in the works and that Estelle demoed a song for the album, but it didn’t make it.

While the music is very different from anything out of the Destiny’s Child camp, Knowles is “hopeful that this can become mainstream,” yet admits that it’s going to be “hard work.” Geffen and Music World are aiming at the “intellectual, backpacking, coffee shop, digital kid.” Where Beyoncé wants her vocals perfect, Solange wants them raw. As fans will hear on August 26th, Beyoncé’s lil’ sis is in a league of her own.

1. “God Given Name”
Produced by Soulshock & Karlin
Solange and Beyoncé’s favorite song on the album. On the melodic track, Solange sings: “I’m not becoming expectations, I’m not her and never will be.”

2. “6 O’Clock Blues”
Produced by Mark Ronson
This throwback has a ’60’s groove. The uplifting track features drums and recalls Amy Winehouse. Solange sings about being happy as long as she has her man. “If my house falls down in the river, as long as we got each other, we can overcome the madness of the world.”

3. “I Decided (Part I)”
Produced by The Neptunes
The first single with a killer video directed by Melina. Part I of the song was directed by The Neptunes and co-written by Cee-Lo. Part II is the Freemasons remix released in the U.K. There is a video for that too which is similar to the Part I video.

4. “Sandcastle Disco” featuring Q-Tip
Produced by Soulshock & Karlin
The second single off the album, which will feature Q-Tip. A video will be shot within the next month. Cee-Lo co-wrote the song with Solange. Upbeat, summertime jam: “I’m a cool ol’ Jane with a skip on my feet, I play tough as nails with my heart on my sleeve, I’m nothing but a sandcastle, baby don’t blow me away.”

5. “T.O.N.Y.”
Produced by Jack Splash
Stands for “The Other Night Why (Did I Do That?)” Possible third single co-written by Cee-Lo. Uptempo song reminiscent of The Spinners’ “I’ll Be Around” with a guitar riff. Solange hopes it will be an anthem for ladies who made the mistake of sleeping with a guy too soon in the relationship. “T.O.N.Y. don’t call me no more, no not at all no more, I’m not in a rush to feel rejected.”

6. “I Told You So”
Produced by Shea Taylor
Soulful number where Solange sings, “And so I’m writing this song for the day I see I’m right, I’ll play this record, while I cry and I say, I told you so.” Sounds like a song you might hear on a Beyoncé album.

7. “IWouldveBeenthe1″
Produced by Jack Splash
This was not played at the listening.

8. “An Ode to Marvin”
Produced by Jack Splash
Goes back to the Motown era, similar to Marvin Gaye’s “What’s Going On.” Mathew Knowles told a story of how he would sing Smokey Robinson’s “Here I Go Again” when Tina Knowles was pregnant with Beyoncé and Solange. “They get their perfect pitch from their father,” he joked. The song opens with, “This song is for my people, I wanna know where we going, cuz I’m right beside you.”

9. “ShampagneChroniKnightCap” featuring Lil Wayne
Produced by Bama Boyz
The hard-knocking, psychedelic track has a trippy effect. It’s one of Mathew’s favorites and features a rap from Wayne that’s just as weird as the song itself.

10. “Valentine’s Day”
Produced by Bama Boyz
The only ballad on the album, but it still manages to be upbeat. Solange sings about how she met her boyfriend and hoped the relationship would last until Valentine’s Day. “You know what kind of gifts I give my baby,” Solange sang before Mathew cut off the track. “Daddy can’t play the rest of that,” he laughed.

11. “Cosmic Journey” featuring Bilal
Produced by Soulshock & Karlin
This song sounds just like its title. It features breathy, echoey vocals and gives off an outer space vibe. Bilal sings, “Far into the night you and I don’t look back and you’ll find me.” Halfway through the song it gets faster like a spaceship taking off, turning into trance, techno, house music. Solange ends with “I want to go high, so high.”

12. “This Bird”
Samples Boards of Canada’s “Slow This Bird Down”
The futuristic, electronic track has a pulsing groove. Toward the end, it almost sounds like a country song. “I’m not going to slow this bird down, I don’t wanna look life in the eye.” Solange closes with a high note.

13. “White Picket Dreams”
Produced by Shea Taylor
Mathew says Solange is trying to “build her own identity” in a successful family and that’s what this song is about. “It’s possible we all want a dream that’s so far away and my white picket dreams are home enough,” she sings.

14. “Wanna Go Back” featuring Marsha Ambrosia and Q-Tip
Produced by Brian “Allday” Miller
Marsha of Floetry sings background vocals and Q-Tip raps: “We’re not far away, we right here.” The Big Band cut features live instruments and has a jazz sound. It’s Mathew’s favorite song musically. “Beautiful journey, how long will it last, yesterday’s calling, calling from the past, just can’t stay away too close, yesterday’s gone,” Solange sings. A beautiful journey indeed.

oh shit

fuck you ILM for making me want to hear a Solange album

hmmmm, maybe I will check this out

haha dp

1. “God Given Name”
Produced by Soulshock & Karlin
Solange and Beyoncé’s favorite song on the album. On the melodic track, Solange sings: “I’m not becoming expectations, I’m not her and never will be.” LOL at this. white Beyonce is so full of shit.
Does this make Solange the black Beyonce now? I'm actually looking forward to this. I've only heard Sandcastle but its really hype.

freemasons remix of 'i decided' is so so good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iblsi-himM&feature=related
Here's the vid? Too retro? I think its quite cute...

freemasons remix of 'i decided' is so so good

NAH-UH

fits og w/ lead boots, surgically removes nimbleness & fun. not good. for popjustice type gayers only.

i don't want q-tip on lovely lovely 'sandcastle disco' but other than that, hoo boy ANTICIPATING THIS.

wtf @ changed spelling of 'champagnechronicnightcap'

hmmm i wanna hear this now.

Part II is the Freemasons remix released in the U.K

NOOOOOOO

i was actually emailing her pr dude really pointedly the other day about how i loved the ORIGINAL 'i decided' but that the rmx was lame. BOO to this country's shitty taste in music

solange was the black beyonce all along....

isn't removing the nimbleness and turning it into a stomping house anthem what the freemasons are all about

hey lex, do the pr emails ever work?

well they often get me CDs and interviews but not so much a say in what singles get released

isn't removing the nimbleness and turning it into a stomping house anthem what the freemasons are all about

yeah but they forgot the "stomping house anthem" bit here, it's just clunky glommed-on glam. plus their best remixes have been of songs which weren't exactly subtle to start with so it was just kind of shifting the scenery. cuz beyonce and kelly were hollering already, yeah? so they hold their own. idk when i hear the og 'i decided' i can imagine solange prancing delightfully around in a great gatsby jazz era dress and flapper hair, and the freemasons just go stomp stomp stomp all over her.

yeah cute video

For a moment, I thought this was a thread about Sonny Knowles.

can i just say, in my absence, that i do not approve of how this project turned out one bit. might i also take the time to add that lex is doing some sterling weasling here wrt splitting hairs between "popjustice type gayers" and "great gatsby jazz era dress and flapper hair" prohibition party media tit gayers - they are the same twee indie fuxx, equally likely to drop the same noxious "solange > beyonce" clangers, the one subtle distinction being that i have a shameless predeliction for banging chicks of the latter grouping. ahem.

no doubt lex will at the same time maintain that your sundry adeles and duffys and cilmis are the very bane of modernity, as if they were any different to this conceited guff.

you and your endless hateration have been sorely missed. (seriously).

are you on a break from ilx or something

actually i will exempt duffy from that cos her song has a rap remix featuring the game and it is truly hilare.

(no belloc, solange fans)

yeah man i mean, i was literally drowing in haterade there for a while so i did think to step away. but fuck it, what's half past midnight for right?

"seriously"

oh yeah i did also want to say that that freemasons mix is cool. don't really see how you can charge them with ruining it when if anything they've cleaved closer to what the song is about, the doubt, the drama, the joy, the sawdust, the oranges, the whatfuckever dahling. the only nimbleness i can hear going on in the original has nothing to do with the lyrical content and everything to do with pharrell's little tapdancing feet and the weak nostalgia they bring - just look at that sodding video.

sorry if i have affronted yall's intellectual backpacking coffee shop digital kid sensibilites tho

Lex is wrong about the Freemasons remix.

That track-by-track breakdown reads like the last Kelis album a bit.

If only Kelis had thought to release such a track-by-track where she suckered in indie fuxx like us with promises of nu-jazz and Cee-Lo and Spanish marching band interludes.

freemason's mix is more than cool its as cooold as aiiice

rtc #1 r&b thug

woah didn't hear "I Decided" until now

A+ much more impressive than "Sandcastle Disco"

freemasons remix of yonces deja vu was better than the original. would have been better if they cut jay-z's rap out of it but hey.

If only Kelis had thought to release such a track-by-track where she suckered in indie fuxx like us with promises of nu-jazz and Cee-Lo and Spanish marching band interludes.

-- Tim F, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 07:14 (6 days ago) Bookmark Link

ha. yeah, i would have enjoyed it had this possible album (champagne/whitepicket) had been like that possible album (tilthewheelsfalloff/80sjoint/circus).

sorry if i have affronted yall's intellectual backpacking coffee shop digital kid sensibilites tho
Lol
Heeeey, I still like Kelis (and Solange), Solange is no where near as on point as Kelis can be, she may be wafting strange new sounds at us but lets not get too hasty and shove Kelis aside. I'm sure she's got something happening soon.

The only songs I've heard from this are Sandcastle Disco and I Decided (Part 2) and they are both my jamz!! When is the album coming out?

man, finally heard that "I Decided" song...it's seriously like y'all are searching out the weakest possible shit to rep for.

check the freemasons rmx

http://www.plong.com/MusicCatalog/B/Brooke%20Valentine%20-%20Chain%20Letter/Brooke%20Valentine%20-%20Chain%20Letter.jpg part 2

possibly, but this stuff doesn't strike me as nearly as chintzy as BV

in terms of crit reception, prob otm

yeah ive never heard a brooke valentine song so that's what i meant

actually ive heard girl fight

if youdon't like it fine but it's not like there aren't tons of people who do

what's so "weak" about it?

also I don't think the brooke valentine comparison is apt because that was just a bunch of critics, tons of people I know IRL are actually feeling solange's new shit.

same thing that's weak about 90% of Pharrell productions over the past 6 years, also tryhard vocals and anemic melody. Freemasons remix puts a decent little bit of polish on that turd, but not much.

xpost

really it's the same kind of forced sass as "Work It Out," the failure of which at least kept Beyonce away from the Neptunes for a few years.

I don't think it has much in common with "Work It Out". "Work It Out" is going for that FONK, in your face dirtiness and attitude (and I agree that it;s kind of a failure on that front), whereas "I Decided" is laid back, jazzy, sweet.. doesn't come off as forced to me at all. It'll probably grow on you I bet.

"work it out" = marva whitney/ tina turner

"i decided" = martha reeves

Pt 2 might grow on me, but the beat on Pt 1 feels so stilted and off that I can't stop grinding my teeth long enough to give any of the other elements a chance. She definitely sounds like she's punching above her weight with the vocals on the first verse, though.

same thing that's weak about 90% of Pharrell productions over the past 6 years

Really? It doesn't sound like anything else the Neptunes have done to me. I had no Idea it was them until I saw so. I think it's a great beat.

well yeah it's not really similar to any particular other tracks of theirs, but it has that shaky feel of Pharrell punching in the loop (or playing the beat on dinky buckets or whatever the fuck he does) without quantizing it that he seems to think gives it groove or swing but really makes it sound amateurish and grating, at least to me.

I think it swings in a very satisfying way. I don't think what it's going for would work if it was played straight.

On the other, there are certainly other Neptunes productions where yeah that is a nuisance.

Freemasons remix puts a decent little bit of polish on that turd, but not much.

xpost

-- some dude, Monday, June 30, 2008 12:44 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Link

its like an entirely diff song

remix is on a more solid foundation but it's still some failed retro bullshit to me. guess we gotta agree to disagree.

im just not clear whats 'failed' about it

uhhh that I don't like it? I mean obviously it's not a failure to everyone, I can only speak for me. I just hear a singer trying brassy'n'sassy and not getting there (partly because, yes, she sounds so much like a certain blood relative who does that so much better).

i dont think it fails at all-- it achieves the exact vibe it's going for it's just a little boring i think. it goes for "personality" in a juno way imo and it gets that but it just tries a little too hard imo. it's a good song, promising more than anything probably, but i can't get excited about it like other ppl in this thread

imo

lol juno

is that a bust on solange's teenage pregnancy a few years back?

a dude who regularly listens to softbatch indie rock should not be accusing retro R&B bangers of sounding 'juno'

i don't like the freemasons mix, it's totally unnecessary and fucks up the vibe of the song

haha wait me or j0rdan? cause he seemed to say it in a not-all-the-way critical way and i merely laughed at it, noone really accusing. (xpost)

it's a good comparison i think

i mean if you look at someone like tiffany evans she gives off as much as if not more personality in the "im grown" video (which is a better song fwiw) as does solange in "i decided" but it doesn't come w/ this whole INTERESTING AND DIFFERENT vibe

no not really

im not accusing her of sounding juno, which would be awful, im accusing her or her people of trying too hard to make her seem like she is more than just a faceless teen r&b singer in the same way juno-- the movie and character-- just is a little too quirky. lil mama and evans are good examples of girls who just do them and are still totally rad. im just saying idk if solange needs this whole vibe to stand out.

the freemasons rmx doesnt sound 'different' or 'off' at all tho, its totally trad and melodically predictable, in the best possible way imo

why can't she be more than just a faceless teen r&b singer?

im not talking about the freemasons rmx which i thought was aight but nothing great

im not saying solange could or could not be a faceless ten r&b singer, merely that i don't think she needs this retro vibe to do it. i dont think there's much of a market in 08 for something like "i decided"

i think hes saying hes not buying it and that it reeks of trying too hard

i dunno if i agree, i just hate when arguments get to that "but what you hate is what i LOVE" maginot line thing

and fm remix is GREAT

i think hes saying hes not buying it and that it reeks of trying too hard

i dont think this was that hard to deduce guys

i mean it's more indie pop than r&b anyway. does she really need to go there is all im saying

she already tried the faceless teen r&b singer approach and flopped

the only reason it sounds like indie pop is because indie pop has been ripping off old r&b

I've heard "i decided" on the radio

lots of people I know who like just radio/106 stuff love it...

and there is a market post- Amy winehouse

and what if she's just doing what she wants to do?!?!

my only issue with the song, and I realize I'm tipping in dan perritory here, is that is seems like she can't really hold notes

im not saying at all that is this is all marketing cuz it would be awful business, just that they thad had an idea and took it a little too far maybe

lol i too am in dan perritory here, hi neighbor

next thing you know we'll start on an endless stream of vagina jokes

i think hes saying hes not buying it and that it reeks of trying too hard

i don't think it does at all, i think she pulls off her wackiness without getting too latter-day outkasty on us. kelis is a good comparison. tiff evans and lil' mama (and keke palmer) are totally difft cuz they get to pass their wackiness off as just "aww kidz".

'sandcastle disco' and 'champagnechronicnightcap' are both loads better than 'i decided'

also a lot lot lot less "interesting and weird" or "INTERESTING AND WEIRD"

also rtc can eff off innit

i dont think there's much of a market in 08 for something like "i decided"

Retro girl pop is one of the biggest musical trends of the moment tho (Winehouse, Duffy, etc)

I wouldn't seek out the rest of the album based on "I Decided", which succeeds for me as a music video but totally falls over as a song. It doesn't hit hard enough to trigger my stomp buttons and it isn't smooth enough to hit my suave buttons. *shrug*

In some ways I feel like Solange has been doomed by Beyonce's runaway success because she isn't a completely different animal from her in the same way that Ashlee and Jessica Simpson are completely different; comparisons between the two of them are going to hold more water because their voices are too similar (Solange having the light, wispy version of Beyonce's voice).

I think I'd like this song a lot more if Paris Bennett sang it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORH04NjKoVY (her singing "Fever" on American Idol)

part 1 just clicked for me (watching MTV hits, of course). the freemasons mix had all the subtlety of a 9mm, which is why i loved it on first listen, but i finally "get it" and i am so thrilled

i decided is my single of the year so far.

On a side note Baby Daniel (Solange's little 'un) has some kind of weird internet rep as being a weed pusher (?! I didn't start that) and Solange is his weed holder and apparently he will readily cut a bitch for looking at him sideways or disrespecting his momma so peoples lets be kind about this album.
http://blackcelebritykids.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/oct-22.jpg

lol u read crunk n disorderly thx 4 playing

^I KNOW! I LOVES IT, I totally bite that site more than anything else in terms of cultural refs. Also that pic is scary there's some determination in Baby D's eyes.

okay after listening to "I Decided" over and over and over I'm ready to say it's the "1 Thing" of this year

i got 45 mins with her tomorrow :D

make sure you wear a rubber

Srsly are you all hearing a completely different song from the limp, unexciting, faker-than-beyonce's-weaves song I'm hearing?

beyonce doesn't wear a weave it's a lacefront wig

leakleakleak

supposedly she was to make an appearance at some bar tonight. curious

i like the album a lot, though i went back and forth on it for ages. weird that 'wanna go back' didn't seem to make the final cut.

Well, of the two new albums I've heard today, I quite like this one, whereas Bloc Party's is fairly shit.

The retro vibe works, and there are a handful of GREAT songs (Sandcastle Disco, Would've Been the One, I Decided). My attention started to drift in the middle, but repeated listens might change that.

This album totally appeals to my intellectual backpacking coffee shop digital kid sensibilites. I love it.

"Cosmic Journey" ffs

ChampagneChroniknightCap = swirl of cherry juice

lovely vocal harmonies & synths.

yes, that is my other favorite, listening to it right now

Secretly I think what got me hooked on the song was the subliminal choral glissando @ 0:56 - 0:58

what IS that sound? "let's have a ChampagneChroniknightCap....(e.g., 2:02 - 2:04)"

lez go lez go
to the open

so shut the fuck up
this bird's not slowing down

still not feeling the whole album, but some of these songs are so genuinely weird. 'this bird' starts off with that alien boc sample & there's a bit in the ending that is so totally minnie ripperton circa 'adventures in paradise'. also love the countryish "it's not over yet" outro. all of this, framed with this weirdly displaced r&b edge.

also, 'i decided' is absolutely not emblematic of the whole album's sound.

the rhythm/cadences on 'would've been the one' are so unusual. so are the chord progressions.

This shit is great. And I am still struggling to hear all the indie pop and techno everyone was talking about last month up above. That's like calling She Wants Revenge trends post-punk

haha
"I promise I'm not high!"

i was more surprised at how straight she played the album! though possibly her kookiness made me expect/fear something really eccentric/'wacky'. i mean the album is mostly just motown throwbacks and minnie ripertonisms until she starts veering off on techno tangents and songs about weed at the end. it's pretty impressive how she pulls off both the trad and the out-there, though, and most of the songs really hold up - apart from the obviously great tracks, '6 o'clock blues' and 't.o.n.y.' are sleepers.

she was a difficult interview, too.

'6 o'clock blues' and 't.o.n.y.' are sleepers

ugh, indeed, that's what I was just thinking

also she was brilliant live

'difficult interview' how, Lex?

basically acted like i'd just woken her up throughout. only loosened up when i gave up asking her questions with any point and starting shooting the shit about dubai architecture, her tattoos &c

haha I see

were you responsible for that "Beyonce's crazy sis" Guardian headline, Lex? It seemed a bit much, especially since it I felt that the piece presented her as more of a mere scattershot eccentric.

nope!

anybody heard the new album yet?

Most of the people upthread!

too stupid to live

(me)

i'm finally listening to this. it's pretty damn great.

I love Cosmic Journey but... am I the only one who has issues with the actual SOUND of the techno bit? I can't put my finger on it.

I'd been kind of enjoying the album up until the final few tracks and then Cosmic Journey sounded so great it made me really annoyed that the entire album wasn't like that.

my only criticism so far: needs more/any violin

The ending of "This Bird" really ruins the song for me. I adore the intro, though.

I don't like the techno bit of "Cosmic Journey" - it feels tacked on and showy.

Right.

The ending of "This Bird" really ruins the song for me. I adore the intro, though.

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― Turangalila, Sunday, October 5, 2008 2:42 PM Bookmark

otm, the part where she says "This song isn't over yet" makes me gaaararrgh

Basically I'm not convinced Solange really carries off the "i'm that weird intergalactic meta-chick" act she tries on these tracks, either in terms of straight execution, or in terms of constructing a convincing persona.

As I said in my review, I think the temptation to avoid is to applaud this stuff simply for its own sake - for, y'know, bucking trends or whatever - when it seems pretty clear that Solange or her people just aren't as strong here (lyrically or musically) as they are on terrain like "Would've Been The One" or "Sandcastle Disco".

Which is not to say that the three tracks in this category don't each have positive qualities, or that they're the weakest songs here.

she killed it at the pigalle last night - SO much fun. sol! angel! and the hadley! street! DREAMS! and she looked fab - gold layered miniskirt + mickey mouse stencilled T-shirt + military jacket.

'cosmic journey' is a billion times better played by a full band - shonky dance knock-off turned into something genuinely immersive. and she played the og 'i decided' because she has good taste in her own songs. in the second verse of 'would've been the one' she quietened the band with a wave of her hand and really dreeeew out the line "and she was cool with just...fuckin' around" to whoops and cheers from the crowd.

she says "Ay bay bay" in "T.O.N.Y."

record is very good. T.O.N.Y. close to top ten songs OTY for me

yeah, I've listened to "T.O.N.Y." at least 3-4 times today

I Decided that Solange released one of my favorite songs of the year.

i like this album but quite a lot of it is too in that mark ronsony early 90s hip hop soul mould. id have liked more songs that lived up to her 'black bjork' billing.

mark ronson early 90s?

"id have liked more songs that lived up to her 'black bjork' billing."

A shame that she's not really any good at these.

i dont mean ronson was around in the early 90s. i mean theres tracks on the album that sound like they could be from jois first album or some other chick from 91 singing over some breakbeats.

"A shame that she's not really any good at these."

the song with bilal is up there, regardless of the slightly unnecessary ending.

lars von trier and i were especially hoping she'd live up to her black bjork billing on 'dancing in the dark'.

sandcastle disco has got some really nice lyrics.

Her "black bjork" billing? Of course you're going to be disappointed if you're looking for something that isn't there.

If Bjork in black face was a real option, I'd take it

hahahha

yeah wait a couple years, it could happen

lol @ her overdosing on nyquil pills and twittering it

b/w that and the nip slip it's been a big week for her

uhhh *googles*

http://www.crunktastical.net/?attachment_id=15838

oh ok ok

ughhh wtf they pulled "sandcastle disco" from youtube :(

this is @ new years rockin eve

lol...as the top of the youtube box explicitly says. not sure i'm feeling that new feature tbh

yeah it really ruins youtube zings and lols

and then she followed it up with a twitter conversation with erykah badu about kids' bedtimes and breastfeeding

btw i love that youtube feature. i can decide whether i want to play something without having to click through to find out what it is

^^^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34STLHtu97A

lex, do you still hate this song?
(original still high in my top ten)

Dirty Projectors

i honestly have no interest in hearing it at all, and am totally giving the side-eye to people who never cared about hearing solange's album but are now all like "omgzzz she covered an indie band" - fuck off!

My tastes generally lean indie, but I like Solange's album more than any Dirty Projectors album. That said, this is a really good cover.

lex, a problem with that logic (not that this is remotely the only one) is that a whole bunch of people who already like solange think this is great, including myself

probably better than the DPs covering Solange

so?

Dear Solange,
autotune is yr friend.
kthxbai

i'm trying to pinpoint why this doesn't work

i guess it just feels sorta lifeless and super self-conscious to me? i think she sucked all the energy and passion out of the original when she decided to turn a sorta-soulful indie song into A. CLASSIC. SOUL. COVER.

idk, it's by no means bad, but it's too calculated for me to actually enjoy :/

yeah lex listen to this, it's great

kinda wish you could hear it w/out knowing it was a cover

Dear Solange,
autotune is yr friend.
kthxbai

― Turangalila, Friday, November 13, 2009 11:39 AM (3 minutes ago)

what?

i wonder how a cover can be non-calculated

haha yeah it's like she's humming to herself and all the sudden she's hitting the exact same notes in the same order as a dirty projectors song and just happens to be in a studio with the sound on

i think there's some pretty interesting vocal stuff going on, esp. rhythmically. def. her own interpretation of the dp's voices-as-instruments thing.

you should look up the definition of 'inspired' xpost

also 'calculated'

3 a : planned or contrived to accomplish a purpose b

pretty sure this = by nature every cover

i don't know how solange doesn't make this a CLASSIC. SOUL. COVER. - that's like... the music that she sings? unless of course she tried to make it a cover that sounds like boards of canada?

how could the futureheads turn this kate bush song into a rousing post-punk cover

lol at lex being a corny indie fuck but about r'n'b instead of indie

k3vin k., I luv her but she's just not a very good singer.

Oh come on, people. Solange is pretty much the most indie-friendly RnB singer I can think of. Still, I'm not really feeling this cover - don't think the song is strong enough in the first place.

nick otm

yes color me shocked by lex's response - lol @ humans breathing, lol @ the sky being blue, lol @ the sun rising

guitar lick is badu's 'bag lady', no?

yes

which is apparently sampled from something else

honestly, when i first heard the DP original, my thought was 'oh hey this is like R'n'B, maybe i should listen to more of that'

i honestly have no interest in hearing it at all, and am totally giving the side-eye to people who never cared about hearing solange's album but are now all like "omgzzz she covered an indie band" - fuck off!

― lex pretend, Friday, November 13, 2009 3:36 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

right but i didn't even know solange existed ~as a person~ until i randomly clicked on the DP thread. now i do!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8PN4v-Lud0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4vKWFCWw04

I am now imagining lex throwing shade to literal strawmen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRZ2s_VMffQ

okay now if anyone could tell me where that lick that's sampled/replayed all the way through 'booty' comes from i would be a very happy bunny (is heard at 3 minutes in to the above video)

best parts of this cover are in the latter half, where she moves beyond the original's pacing and starts fucking with the phrasing and the tempo...right around the bridge, I guess? 'isn't life just a mirage of the world' 'where does time begin where does space end where do you and i...etc.etc.

but as i reflect, i suppose that its impact would be lessened if the entire cover was a straight up reinterpretation that didn't hew fairly closely to the DP version at the outset.

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3 a : planned or contrived to accomplish a purpose b

pretty sure this = by nature every cover

― house of flying jaggers (J0rdan S.), Friday, 13 November 2009 16:46 (3 hours ago) Permalink

ok, but i don't like being reminded that the person is singing something to "accomplish a purpose." it's forced, just like these 'zings'

i don't know how solange doesn't make this a CLASSIC. SOUL. COVER. - that's like... the music that she sings? unless of course she tried to make it a cover that sounds like boards of canada?

― house of flying jaggers (J0rdan S.), Friday, 13 November 2009 16:47 (3 hours ago) Permalink

um, are you not picking up on my obvious message? solange is not v good at all at CLASSIC. SOUL. COVERS. they're not CLASSIC. SOUL. COVERS. they're trying desperately hard to be. but they're not because, like this cover, she's so frustratingly self-conscious. i mean, i guess it could be worse, but she's about as successfully retro as the pipettes. yawn. also maybe because she's a dull vocalist and her songs aren't that great?

sandcastle disco aside

don't see how this is trying to be retro at all

i don't particularly like her image either but it's not nearly as frustratingly retro as her recorded material (in fact, since it uses a sample that's most famous for being in a dr. dre song, maybe not all that retro at all). it sounds soulful to me and i think it's a very confident performance, way less frivolous (and sure, way less pipettes-y) than her normal stuff. i still don't pick up on it being contrived tho, not at least more or less than other covers. she picked a song in a different genre and adapted it to her style of music. idk.

TBH it did piss me off when my IRL friends whose only contact with rap/r&b comes remixed by Diplo were raving about this today. i'm always recommending them good shit to listen to but this is what it takes clearly.

I promise you this is not just a strawman ting

yeah it's only in the last year that i've had indie-oriented friends who would never listen to r&b unless it had some kind of angle like this.

I am offended that someone insinuated that the dirty projectors have soul on this thread

TBH it did piss me off when my IRL friends whose only contact with rap/r&b comes remixed by Diplo were raving about this today. i'm always recommending them good shit to listen to but this is what it takes clearly.

― david cam'ron (tpp), Friday, November 13, 2009 4:24 PM (18 minutes ago)

yeah i sympathize w/ this, though it shouldnt prevent someone who likes solange from giving it a chance *COUGH*

xp only if you think "soul" isn't completely meaningless

This strikes me as a pleasingly random songchoice - c.f. Sugbabaes covering the Arctic Monkeys. I guess an equivalent of that would have been covering, I dunno, "My Girls"? Which almost certainly would have failed.

On Twitter I asked Lex what the clear distinction was between people getting into Solange because she covers Dirty Projectors and people getting into The XX because they cover "Do You Mind" and "Teardrops", and he said "those are good songs."

Which makes sense (from his perspective - I like "Stillness Is The Move" though obv not as much as "Do You Mind" or "Teardrops") but doesn't add up to some kind of ethical distinction by itself.

I think the motivation in both is "hey look we/I have broader taste than you might think and look how cleverly we can turn this into our chosen genre type" i.e. it's broadsheet/press release fodder on some levels, but on others serves to underscore both the performer's aesthetic solidity and their sensititivty.

Much worse is that kind of Sugababes/Arctic Monkeys (or conversely any indie or rock band covering Britney or etc.) thing where it's like the songchoice is designed to the beat you over the head with the genre contrast.

I wonder if any country fans got suspicious of pop fans who became excited when Taylor Swift covered "Umbrella" etc.

or when she covered eminem

what i didn't have room to say on twitter is that i don't know ANYONE who got into the xx directly because they covered womack & womack and paleface & kyla - i have never seen anyone say "oh THIS indie band must be good b/c they do r&b covers", let alone show little interest in the xx's own material. if anything if i'd known about the covers first it would probably have made me more suspicious of the xx.

also i'm not suspicious of solange's motives, she can cover what she likes, i was more hating on the general "omgzzz" reaction i saw from people who'd never shown the slightest interest in solange before, even when i was solidly pimping her last year. (tpp very much otm.)

i mean, i know people who got into the xx through the hot like fire cover. not that they would be naturally disinclined to like them anyhow, but the hook was not new british band so much as "new british band influenced by and who cover r&b.

tbh, that's probably what hooked me initially, because while i do generally like indie, i'm deeply skeptical of most uk hyped acts...an endless stream of disappointment that i generally avoid listening to. never bothered checking out the klaxons, glasvegas etc. etc. any of nme's frequent saviors of rock. the only reason the xx got a second glance was that their stated influences included r&b, dubstep etc. - sufficiently different and "broader taste than you might think" (viz. tim's comments) that indicated a desire to be something other than standard british indie mush.

so while that's not "THIS indie band must be good because they do r&b covers", it certainly is prizing broad taste and appreciation for the musical values of r&b above other qualities, i suppose.

I totally decided to check out the XX because of their taste in non-indie stuff.* I'm not proud of that but there it is.

* A bad way to get into them, in many ways. It meant it took me longer to just accept them for what they are.

I'm shallow & immoral and see nothing wrong with that way of getting into a band, fwiw.

their cover of 'do you mind' blows imho -- not sure why it got so much attention ... the tune to that song itself isnt anything special, its totally about the rhythms & instrumentation (if it can be called that) & so the 'cover' just felt like a reference to the *event* that is that song rather than to the song itself

otm, same kinda goes for their cover of "hot like fire"

yah its for the benefit of an indie audience that wants to see a *broad spectrum of influences* rather than for the R&B/funky house fan looking for a way into their music

as an R&B/funky house fan, it was "Basic Space" that made me pay attention to them, not any of their covers

i guess it's important for us to still shit our pants every time a black person namedrops an indie rock band, though.

― soulja boy antebellum (some dude), Sunday, 26 July 2009 04:06 (3 months ago)

also i'm not suspicious of solange's motives, she can cover what she likes, i was more hating on the general "omgzzz" reaction i saw from people who'd never shown the slightest interest in solange before, even when i was solidly pimping her last year. (tpp very much otm.)

Yeah but Lex seriously can you imagine how angry you'd be if it was Dirty Projectors fans hating on Solange for covering their beloved band? This sounds like the lesser of two evils to me...

It's not like indie kids are ever under any obligation to listen to rnb, even when like Solange it's totally aimed at twee indie fuckers. Her entire schtick seems to be acting the quirky indie little sister to Beyonce's globetrotting pop behemoth - see also covering Bjork and Coldplay. It strikes me that the reaction you're hating on is entirely the reaction she wants.

i guess it's important for us to still shit our pants every time a black person namedrops an indie rock band, though.

― soulja boy antebellum (some dude), Sunday, 26 July 2009 04:06 (3 months ago)

yeah, but can't this just be inverted to "white person namedrops an r&b singer" and be just as on-point re: both the xx & DPs?

uh i don't think anyone is shitting their pants over solange knowles covering DP - she has a pretty long track record of talking up indie records & bands, this really isn't surprising in the least - it's just a dope cover, sheesh

how i break it down to an extent

I think I might be interpreting "shit our pants" differently here, I was more eyerolling at the discussion this has already prompted.

How's her first album, Solo Star?

Well then.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f14/snouts/babydaniel.gif

im a cool low jane with a skip on my feet iirc

shes back again

http://mydamnblog.com/iblog/2010/03/to-hold-you-over/

this is great.

middle eight of "would've been the one" slaying me atm

i was the one, yes i was the one
and yes that was my name inked upon his arm
and if he loved me that much and still did me wrong...

Yeah love that one, her vocals towards the end are just incredible.

Really hoping we get a new album soon, I still play the last one a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMXuuYnoRdI YO OMG NEW SINGLE COMING UP

WAIT NO THAT'S NOT RIGHT I MEANT THIS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB2-sH0LTUQ

produced/written by dude from of montreal and dude from test icicles (poor lex)

omg the return of

dead 2 me

So excited for the new album, Sol-Angel is one of my favourite albums of the last few years.

reminding myself of the solange's endless dreadful collaborators it's genuinely astonishing she managed to make an album that good

erm SUBS ADD GRAMMAR ETC TO THAT SENTENCE

You know that Beyonce would be doing shit like this if she didn't have a proper career to maintain.

http://t.co/N593pEx3

haha, she already worked with Empire of the Sun

and grizzly bear and dirty projectors and twin shadow...

oh who are we talking about, S or B?

I was talking about Bey

and Sleigh Bells allegedly

yeah but the point is that beyoncé caused us trepidation with the sleigh bells rumours but then she gave us 4

Because she has a proper career to sustain.

Beyonce featured on this gem with a bloke from Coronation Street, so Solange wins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQxwgykVPQY

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okay that didn't work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy9W_mrY_Vk&feature=plcp

awesome song

after this and "Everything Is Embarrassing" I kind of want Dev Hynes to write all of the pop songs. which is so weird.

This song is amazing!!!!!!!!

OMG I AM SO FUCKING EXCITED FOR THIS ALBUM

yeah fffv I'm having that same weird feeling... the vocals have a bit of an "everything is embarrassing" feel to it

This takes the good things about "Everything Is Embarrassing" and pushes them to 11 on the Made-for-Johnny-Fever scale.

80s pop is the most absolute boring musical choice one can make right now. if this had come out 5 years ago, I'd have loved it. as it stands, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

If the core of the track is solid, the production/arrangement is just gravy. There's a sizeable swamp out there of 80s-inspired pop, but a few things still manage to sound good and fresh. This is an example of that, imo.

I just bought the digital single and the b-side is p tight too.

bury the fucking 80s dead.

NEVER EVER

While I'm always in favor of pushing music forward, I have a hell of a nostalgia sweet tooth. When enough time passes, decades turn into genres. If prevailing pop (not POP) trends wish to dabble in the 80s genre at the current time, so be it. Just make the songs good.

Glad someone made this gif so I didn't have to

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb91lfxyhY1qjipi2o1_500.gif

the corpse of the 80s has DONE BEEN picked over. nice gif tho.

My problem isn't with people making retro-80s music my problem is with people making retro-80s music when retro-80s music is PLAYED THE FUCK OUT.

And all I'm saying is that we're at 80s high tide right now and soon we'll be at low tide. In the meantime, there's still some really great 80s-style music all over the place (and that's been the case pretty much for the last 10-12 years).

I get what you're saying, though. In the 80s, 80s music was new and THE FUTURE. Where's THE FUTURE now? Everyone from Solange to Jessie Ware to Vampire Weekend to whoever else is making a splash this week seems to be inspired by, if not repackaging completely, one or more 80s styles in their new output. A few years ago, it was the 60s (Duffy, Adele, Winehouse) and before that it was something else and some other time.

As much as I hate to give the 90s credit for ANYTHING, it was probably the last time that mainstream music was delivering something that was unlike what came before it (for better or worse).

The music universe is both so giant and so tiny at the same time now. The mainstream both encompasses all the fringes and blocks them out.

Eh, I'm talking out of my ass in the middle of the night, but I guess there's plenty of music out there right now that doesn't sound like anything that came before it, but instead of it being the most popular kind it's one of the most subverted.

my point has nothing to do with what periods of time people have been creative (all periods of time, DUH) or the 80s themselves and only the past 10-12 years you mentioned. Every interesting thing to be done with 80s revivalism had already been done by AT LEAST a couple years ago. The bones of the 80s are dry and there's the entirety of the 90s as fresh meat to pick at if you want to go retro, MOVE ON.

can't get with the sentiment that any aesthetic is dry or played out

but hey i love this, so

xp Why not? Trends shift all the time because existing styles become old hat and something new is needed to keep things fresh.

totally! yes! doesn't mean that there's not value in plumbing a style still

i'm a death metal fan so i'm pretty into the idea that an aesthetic can be refined infinitely

I'll see you at drum & bass night.

is it just me or does the beat on this sound like a pitch-shifted version of the one on matthew dear's "her fantasy"

Matthew Dear is exactly what I thought.

I really like Losing You. 80s or not, that loose groove/vibe is great.

This is an brilliant return, so excited for the album now. The video is kind of perfect too, I could watch her dancing like that all day.

i mean it's not THAT 80s. the vocals are produced that way & i guess if you wanted to get real generous you could say that the beat has some 80ish "world music" qualities to it but it's not overwhelming or anything.

btw solange looks so ridiculous in that video... everything looks perfect except when it comes time for her to be a presence.

there was a lot of music produced in the 80s

i guess dev did most if not all of this album? interesting

after this and "Everything Is Embarrassing" I kind of want Dev Hynes to write all of the pop songs. which is so weird.

― I don't even know wtf this band sounds like I'm just trollin (fffv), Tuesday, October 2, 2012 4:54 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^I came here to post EXACTLY this.

I have been listening to this all day and it just gets better SOLNAGE WE LOVE U

wow what a monster jam

Love the song. It doesn't scream too 80s to me because the groove sounds too loose. Most 80s music I listen to usually have a staccato, tight rhythm. (Examples of loose funky grooves of the 80s would be appreciated)

The video is pleasant and Solange's goofiness is cute.

that is p much otm, I don't hear this as 80's at all

well this was disappointing

it's not bad but dev hynes is such a rudimentary songwriter - this applies to the sky ferreira song too (which i like quite a bit) but he just...doesn't use very many notes? so many lines are just...the singer starts on a note and then just...hangs there on the same note droning on? with an awkward tempo that makes it all sound a bit eye test?

That's a bit of a Geir objection dude. (NB, not actually heard this).

(I fully believe he's a rudimentary songwriter though)

no it's not, i'm saying there's something very unsatisfying about the melodies he writes - like they're on the verge of being really hooky and then they just stop because he is a terrible songwriter

I cannot stop playing this song. Single of the year for me.

I've been caning this since yesterday but I agree with lex that it feels a bit underwritten - I'll be surprised if I'm still caning it in a week. Anyway, I think the bit I really love is around 2:53 in the vid when the vaguely Air France-y backing comes whooshing back in. <3 Solange's dancing too obviously.

not sure what I think of this (yet) but it doesn't scan as particularly 80s in the 00s-revivalist sense. The closest major 80s point of comparison I could come up with was Toto's "Africa"? But more uptempo?

At first blush the vocals and the music sound like they were written separately (and I get lex's point about the slightly leaden melodies) but this could still grow on me substantially.

The backing track on this is fantastic and if it were to appear on the Balearic revival thread it would not be out of place at all.

no it's not, i'm saying there's something very unsatisfying about the melodies he writes - like they're on the verge of being really hooky and then they just stop because he is a terrible songwriter

Having now listened to it I get where you're coming from on this. It's not that he doesn't use enough notes (which really would be a Geirish objection) it's that he doesn't have any understanding of how rhythm works within a melody, it's all fourth-notes, it doesn't fit what should be the meter of what she's singing. It's very Primary School Recorder Lesson Three, like something a child would write.

Unsurprising because he's from a generation of Brit indie songwriters who don't really 'get' how rhythm and melody work together.

the song is pretty simple... it's essentially one chorus and one verse repeated, and the bridge is just the chorus but elongated a bit. when i first heard it i thought it was weird because she sings the chorus first but it doesn't even sound like a chorus at first blush, it kinda threw me for a loop. but i think there's some strong, memorable melodies there and i like the idea of pretty basic songwriting being laid over this beat that has a lot of things going on. i think it really works, and solange has some great vocal runs in the final chorus.

Think how great some actually competent songwriting would sound over the top of that beat then!

The backing track on this is fantastic and if it were to appear on the Balearic revival thread it would not be out of place at all.

yeh i like this as much for the promise of a really dope extended edit as for the song itself

the beat sounds like terje's on the beach beat mixed with something by the revenge w/added idm pads

lex/madd dc otm. the child like simplicity of the melody isn't really working for me, also those dave dirty projector dude backing vocals are horrible

was thinking earlier this would make a good Talabot remix

also those dave dirty projector dude backing vocals are horrible

― Crackle Box, Wednesday, October 3, 2012 8:40 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

huh

Think how great some actually competent songwriting would sound over the top of that beat then!

― Matt DC, Wednesday, October 3, 2012 8:28 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark

idk i think this is a great song. not as good as "everything is embarrassing" but pretty damn good

the backing isn't interesting enough to make up for the shitty melody. idk it's all alrightish, might grow on me, but just go back to solange's last album - every song in the first half is so much better than this

really "everything is embarrassing" suffers from a lot of the same problems, but there's something about how sparse the arrangement and especially sky f's delivery that makes it more beguiling

anyway people on twitter say that they were just swept away by the video (which i haven't seen) and it sounds way underwritten on its own

listen from 3 mins, the backing vox go all "indie" on the ol melisma

the video is pretty beautiful altho i maintain that solange looks utterly ridiculous and like she has no idea what to do on camera for most of the time

"everything is embarrassing" holds together better as a song and has two pretty distinct (and better) melodic parts

Hmmmm I don't mind Dev's writing style in theory, I'd agree that his melodies tend toward the straight 4s with limited range. Like he wrote them on a tiny keyboard or something. Closest reference for this Solange song, to my ears, is that Blood Orange "Champagne Coast" song ("Come into my bedroom, come into my bedroom...") (and is ultimately a better song) but I still I like this song a lot

the video is pretty beautiful altho i maintain that solange looks utterly ridiculous and like she has no idea what to do on camera for most of the time

― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 10:03 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's like they synced clips of her dancing to entirely different parts of the song
(apart from when she does the step-step-shuffle bit, which is nice)

Surely that is fully intentional though?

i think she looks decent, dances cool, the video is great, the song is maybe a little thin but it has grown on me a lot

pop as will-this-do tickbox exercise there

oh maybs yeah (xp). it isn't really a criticism!, it is charming.

I don't get what the issue is with Dev Hynes' songwriting. I also don't really see that many 80s elements other than the synth pad perhaps. The Sky Ferreira single is totally 80s though, in the best possible way.

pop as will-this-do tickbox exercise there

― lex pretend, Wednesday, October 3, 2012 10:59 AM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark

oh please, this applies no more or less to solange's entire career

it was more about max's description! which did not sound like it stacked up to a song that's particularly noteworthy.

I don't get what the issue is with Dev Hynes' songwriting

oh it's not as if matt and others actually pinpointed it musically, not sure what else you would like

No, I guess I mean 'I don't get it' in the sense that I'm not identifying the alleged shortcomings in the songs myself. Sure, the melodies are simple, but so are most melodies in pop music, so that's not really a valid criticism, imo. Although, apart from this and "Everything Is Embarrassing" I've only heard a couple of tracks by Hynes.

Is less the melody and more the vocal rhythms or lack of them, they sound incredibly ponderous.

yeah it's kinda meant to be suggestive of this bleary, droning, numbed torpid mumblecore inarticulacy indicating longing and heartache beyond words or whatever. simple is real cos of ~how hard it is to feel things~, to be decisive and put a fine point on it is too painful if not even by implication dishonest. the whole thing's of a piece, you got the washed out instagrammed visuals, the 80s comfort blanket for the emotional foetal position... blah blah the familiar prepack set of lies agreed upon

it's all v boring

i get the objection, it's prob valid depending on your priorities, this is very evidently a song to ~vibe out~ to not a song with a vocal melody that's designed to grab you and not let go. if all the songs are like this than yeah it would be a problem.

the backing track is an absolute monster tho--crank that shit on speakers, it's got so much thump.

I'd just like to point out that the melody has been stuck in my head for the last hour or so and I'm in no rush to extinguish it.

this song is okay? I don't feel very strongly one way or the other about it?

the video is ridiculous though, whoever edited it basically makes Solange look like she has no conception of rhythm half the time

I love the song. To me, the simplicity of the vocal phrasing acts as a wonderful counterpoint to the propulsiveness of the beat. If the writer of the song only ever wrote songs with simplistic vocal phrasing, I would understand the criticism, but in this case it sounds like a deliberate device. The vocal (and keyboard) phrasing doesn't need to be complicated because there's so much movement in the beat.

The first time I watched the video, I thought some of the editing was off, but I've grown to like it. I think there's some kind of juxtaposition of calm/stillness with kinetic/frenetic energy. Again, I think it's deliberate.

yeah, the verse is kinda unremarkable, but i like the chorus a lot. reminds me of 'like a prayer'

yeah it's kinda meant to be suggestive of this bleary, droning, numbed torpid mumblecore inarticulacy indicating longing and heartache beyond words or whatever. simple is real cos of ~how hard it is to feel things~, to be decisive and put a fine point on it is too painful if not even by implication dishonest. the whole thing's of a piece, you got the washed out instagrammed visuals, the 80s comfort blanket for the emotional foetal position... blah blah the familiar prepack set of lies agreed upon

this is actually a pretty accurate description of what I love about this song.

When I listened to this I didn't think 80s so much as Madonna specifically (for the vocal line, not necessarily anything else), but probably 80s Madonna. That could be because Madonna is the only pop singer I've heard. Anyway, I find it boring.

(I can't listen again right now to check if the Madonna comparison still makes any sense to me.)

There are only two minor things I don't like about this and they have nothing to do with the melody. One of them is a slight misstep in the harmony of the chorus (or is it the verse?) and the other one is I could use a break from the little squeal of the beat -even though I like it it tends to slightly grate towards the end. BTW, does anyone else hears a bit of Kleerup in this song?

Great track, but not feeling the video.

Leaving aside the colonial stuff, I guess 1950s style is the thing at the moment?

not sure what you mean really, but the men in the video are sapeurs.

Oh, OK...

Now more confused.

she's interviewed about it here: http://www.thefader.com/2012/10/02/interview-solange/

song is good but video is better imo. i like her really awkward dancing and will pretend that it is somewhat intentional.

yeah it's kinda meant to be suggestive of this bleary, droning, numbed torpid mumblecore inarticulacy indicating longing and heartache beyond words or whatever. simple is real cos of ~how hard it is to feel things~, to be decisive and put a fine point on it is too painful if not even by implication dishonest. the whole thing's of a piece, you got the washed out instagrammed visuals, the 80s comfort blanket for the emotional foetal position... blah blah the familiar prepack set of lies agreed upon

it's all v boring

― r|t|c, Wednesday, October 3, 2012 1:11 PM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

::throws flowers on the foot of the stage::

Listened to Losing You tonight for the first time. Not sure i heard the same song people here are talking about. What I heard was lethargic and bland. Uptown Girls - I'm Losing You is 1million times better than this. Is there a remix that isn't slow a dull?

no

Is THE the "Video Games" of 2012?

doh I hate it when I have a brainfart on the word I meant to emphasize.

Is THIS the "Video Games" of 2012?

Well, reading over the interview, it's certainly an interesting set of practices, a culture. But my initial reaction was just wondering why this track for that imagery. Not sure that it fits, but maybe it doesn't really have to.

also like a tiny bit of vampire weekend/paul simon x gosling's drive along the transverse axis of poeticised mundanity sort of thing going on

― r|t|c, Monday, 11 June 2012 12:07 (3 months ago) Bookmark

said this about 'pyramids' some time ago just to fold in the africa (and toto 'africa' for that matter) angle into the dismissive mix, same shit might as well apply

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8yopr696N1qgo4xpo1_500.gif

unsurprisingly i have a better one of that which i was saving :/

i guess i often wonder to what extent a (self)critical articulacy precludes vibing out music (for want of a better term), like otherwise you become wholly subject to this muggy personal fog but try and think about how the thing in question works on you and the illusion shatters

like (conversely) with the carly rae jepsen lp in my own world i mightve stayed where i was at with the initial listens but in trying to essay my reservations i ended up throwing it all out and liking the thing a lot instead

the lamp n plax chillwave show might suggest a degree of critical thinking wrt vibes but tbh that's all coming from the whole art school self sustaining hall of mirrors industry, shit is just inculcated

honestly i'm not trying to be all "see thru the bullshit sheeple", all art appreciation is a set of lies agreed upon but i guess i am saying yeesh maybe tell yourselves some more interesting ones idk

some real thursday-afternoon-ass posting right thurr

loool for fun i'm on the rtc/some dude/lex side on this one, i think b/c i like the beat & feel like so much more could have been done it feels lazy

rtc plz post the better clueless jpg/gif thnx

yes please post better one, I have no qualms about reusing.

http://i.minus.com/ibjCSCemAyeiTL.gif

haha remarkably similar to the one i was actually *this* close to posting earlier

http://i.imgur.com/tO1BS.gif

Ahhhh, what particularly makes that one is the eyebrow at the end (xpost)

i always forget homegirl is in a better place :(

::does saddest 'rolling with the homies' dance ever::

rolling with the homies, hopefully (XPOST)

maybe i will make some personalised gifs of myself for people to throw on messageboards when i die

all i can really think of when i hear this is it must be a bitch to be HER sister

this strikingly orig thought stated by matt dc two years ago i see

;_;

every time i hear this i think it's going to turn into time after time by cindy lauper.

if only

i liked this interview http://www.thefader.com/2012/10/02/interview-solange/

This song is amazing!!!!!!!!

― bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, October 2, 2012

I think it's the "Twin Peaks" synth that kills me.

'True' EP out Nov 27

1. Losing You
2. Some Things Never Seem to Fucking Work
3. Locked in Closets
4. Lovers in the Parking Lot
5. Don't Let Me Down
6. Look Good With Trouble
7. Bad Girls

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1696317/solange-knowles-true-tracklist.jhtml

she is so hot.

thanks for the insightful comment about her music

maura <3

maura <3

― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:41 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

she is pretty hot tho

k3vinsight

looks like som3on3 has not discussed the female empowerment angle

haha

wait who's hot

you flopped, I copped the blue drop

titty plop in my drop top

^^ the same ol pimp

snippets -> http://www.rap-up.com/2012/11/08/new-music-solange-true-ep-snippets/

http://itsblackcurrent.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/solange.jpeg

thanks for the insightful comment about summer

their summer is our winter!

I keep finding this stuff while not searching for Solange Knowles, really. Solange says TSA inspected her hair at airport:

https://twitter.com/solangeknowles/status/268800994152947712

I AM THANKFUL FOR NEW SOLNAGE TRACKS

http://soundcloud.com/terrible-records/04-lovers-in-the-parking-lot

... I really like the other one!

it's so hot.

yeah it's kinda meant to be suggestive of this bleary, droning, numbed torpid mumblecore inarticulacy indicating longing and heartache beyond words or whatever. simple is real cos of ~how hard it is to feel things~, to be decisive and put a fine point on it is too painful if not even by implication dishonest. the whole thing's of a piece, you got the washed out instagrammed visuals, the 80s comfort blanket for the emotional foetal position... blah blah the familiar prepack set of lies agreed upon

it's all v boring

― r|t|c, Wednesday, October 3, 2012 1:11 PM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is best music writing '12 imo

http://i.imgur.com/rDTQS.gif

Going in!

solange knowles ‏@solangeknowles
Some of these music blogs could actually benefit from hiring people who REALLY understand the culture of hip hop to write about hip hop.

solange knowles ‏@solangeknowles
Like you really should know about deep Brandy album cuts before you are giving a "grade" or a "score" to any R&B artist.

oh no

solange knowles ‏@solangeknowles
Like you really should know about deep Brandy album cuts before you are giving a "grade" or a "score" to any R&B artist.

ha i agree with this obv

solange knowles ‏@solangeknowles
So you can stop acting like it just popped off last year for R&B. Like it just got interesting and experimental.

solange knowles ‏@solangeknowles
So you can stop praising every rapper who raps over a trap beat, but can't form literate sentences & then you market it as some hip shit.

solange knowles ‏@solangeknowles
And that wasn't a rant. It was an observation and a request.

solange going hammer

solange knowles ‏@solangeknowles
Like you really should know about deep Brandy album cuts before you are giving a "grade" or a "score" to any R&B artist.

she knows she's setting fire to her whole support base here right

Dom ‏@ichlugebullets
How the hell does Solange have 1.3m Twitter followers and zero hit singles? How the fuck does that even work?

khloe kardashian has 7 mil followers

j0rdan c/ping a dom tweet that isn't even try-hard "funny" but is just straight-up dumb is kind of embarrassing

solange knowles ‏@solangeknowles 22 Dec
Thank you to Stereogum, Guardian, Spin, Pitchfork, & all the other joints for choosing "Losing You" & TRUE on your "Best of the Year" list.

so, are my test icicles promos worth flogging now ?

[f*cking dreadful band ... but clearly he's done well for himself .... at last .. ]

the original tumblr page that posted this has an XKCD link in their "about me."

never forget

what the fuck, wrong thread

so is solange dissing j0rdan? i say yes

yeah it's kinda meant to be suggestive of this bleary, droning, numbed torpid mumblecore inarticulacy indicating longing and heartache beyond words or whatever. simple is real cos of ~how hard it is to feel things~, to be decisive and put a fine point on it is too painful if not even by implication dishonest. the whole thing's of a piece, you got the washed out instagrammed visuals, the 80s comfort blanket for the emotional foetal position... blah blah the familiar prepack set of lies agreed upon

it's all v boring

― r|t|c, Wednesday, October 3, 2012 1:11 PM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is best music writing '12 imo

― D-40, Friday, 30 November 2012 04:03 (1 month ago) Permalink

lol even as i feel myself within the scope of this post's crosshairs its hard not to laugh along with it. it still seems somehow genealogically linked to the same epistemological crisis that birth ilx, the nuance of a reconfigured of dialectics of "popular opinion" that kindof makes it difficult to locate a position of minoritarianism. a swirl of signifiers, all those sedimentary layers of cultural resonance. the nasty tentacles of indie-centric cultural hegemony or at least the self-righteous husks of its artistic alibis and valorisations. i think the guy does better stuff, the sky ferreira thing loops around your head for a solid weekend. its lazy in a way i don't mind. actually enjoyably lazy in the same way the rtc post is "yeah yeah, you know the signifier," there's a sense of casual fluency, the barest gesture needed to register intent. i guess that's what's sortof frustrating about the solange one though, i think as a singer she's capable of some sort of actual emotional projection, vocal expressive representation, while the song is a much less ambitious thing. i guess for another listener this could be the meaty tension of it, the gap between blind signification and embodied vulnerability (sky is such a dream-girl cyborg that it has this entirely different sci-fi melancholia) but the song isn't really catchy enough for me to want to listen to it enough times to start adding that kindof interpretive layer to listening. its also like lol music journalism in another sense. or like describing things.

xp i don't think j0rdan has ridden hard for indie-r&b as a thing?

there's a half dozen "think pieces" published since November more Solange-worthy.

or is that solangious

@solangeknowles
There are SO many gifted writers who truly understand. Who didn't get hip to R&B & Hip-Hop via the crossover artist of their childhood.

i don't even understand this. like if your first interest in R&B was hearing Janet or Mariah or Whitney as a kid THAT makes your take on R&B invalid? what's the OG route?

xp i don't think j0rdan has ridden hard for indie-r&b as a thing?

― lex pretend, Saturday, January 5, 2013 2:28 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm talking about

solange knowles ‏@solangeknowles
So you can stop praising every rapper who raps over a trap beat, but can't form literate sentences & then you market it as some hip shit.

― lex pretend, Saturday, January 5, 2013 11:17 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

completely enraging tbh

lol

of course her comments abt R&B critics wouldn't have anything to do w/ other artists getting in the way of her special alt R&B shine now would it

she thought being alt would separate her from the pack & now everybody does it o wellllll

I don't think that's the takeaway at all.

there are many takeaways. her criticism (of R&B at least) isn't far from what ppl have said around here for ages. but the purity test of R&B crit is silly as fuck

SergDun ‏@SergDun
Really? You guys are trying to ride for deep brandy cuts? Get up on my level of toad the wet sprocket back catalog too

kingmost ‏@kingmost
@SergDun WHis is this at? Hollerboard?

that says it all imo

anyone who mocks the idea of people riding for deep brandy cuts is basically scum

i first read her tweets and were like "this is otm!" but the more you think about it the more disingenuous and silly it seems

seems like "REALLY UNDERSTANDING hip hop culture" is the gateway to liking latter-day Common records to me, idunno

xp

lol @ music purity tests cutting no ice with D-40

she thought being alt would separate her from the pack & now everybody does it o wellllll

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Saturday, 5 January 2013 20:50 (30 minutes ago) Bookmark

otm

this kinda reminds me of one time i was lured into going to the shacklewell a few years ago, some sort of hella tragic fake-ass kingdom dickrider night was afoot and to this day i can vividly recall the anaemic twerp on the decks solemnly basking in the crowd's dead reaction as he pulled the trigger on brandy 'all in me'

vg plax post

i could almost get down with "enjoyably lazy" if i wouldnt have to scour the globe for a thousand years to hear another person admit as much

i guess for another listener this could be the meaty tension of it, the gap between blind signification and embodied vulnerability

my instinct is to agree with this based on meagre enquiries i have undertaken

"some sort of hella tragic fake-ass kingdom dickrider night"

i like how this has again set bdot off on j0rdan the cultural tourist

SOLANGE KNOWLES, omg the infernal

In retrospect we really should have anticipated where this was going to end up with "jamming to feist and lemon jelly" in the original post.

Ha! That's really a spot on distillation of the Solange.

I don't see what's so wrong with what she said, I've seen a lot of people on ilx say similar.

this kinda reminds me of one time i was lured into going to the shacklewell a few years ago, some sort of hella tragic fake-ass kingdom dickrider night was afoot and to this day i can vividly recall the anaemic twerp on the decks solemnly basking in the crowd's dead reaction as he pulled the trigger on brandy 'all in me'

I see Tim already pulled the key quote here.

The Shacklewell is just fucking bizarre.

i dont mind the shacklewell

dunno what you lot are on about, i copied that from the flyer

lol the last time i went to the shacklewell (and the event that convinced me to stay away from it forever) was...when SOLANGE was DJing there

do u recall who the anaemic twerp was rtc?

god if you're gonna play a #deepbrandycut for the dancefloor at least let it be "sadiddy"

lol i forgot about brandy's tribute to pootie tang

i didn't know it was a tribute to anything, idk what pootie tang is

Pootie Tang is a 2001 American comedy film written and directed by Louis C.K..

:(((((((((((((

lol

^^^^excellent ilx exchanges

has someone listened to "true" yet ? is it any good ?

Yep. "Locked in Closets" and "Don't Let Me Down" are dope.

thanks. just listenend to "lovers in the parking lot". seems alright.

True is great. Bad Girls is probably my favourite song after Losing You. Only Look Good With Trouble is a bit throwaway but it is very short. Some Things Never Seem To Fucking Work is one of the other highlights but is slightly spoiled by a pretty annoying rap by Dev.

this kinda reminds me of one time i was lured into going to the shacklewell a few years ago, some sort of hella tragic fake-ass kingdom dickrider night was afoot and to this day i can vividly recall the anaemic twerp on the decks solemnly basking in the crowd's dead reaction as he pulled the trigger on brandy 'all in me'

what's kingdom? having had a few nihilism-inducing nights at the shacklewell i feel the need to complete this vivid picture.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsqNfyFXJTc

but is slightly spoiled by a pretty annoying rap by Dev.

I didn't think of that as a "rap" so much as one of those spoken word codas that bands like Human League used to throw in, made it more tolerable to approach it that way.

but this is Dev talking
and I wanna tell you
what I've found to be true

ah right, cheers gg.

solange knowles ‏@solangeknowles
Like you really should know about deep Brandy album cuts before you are giving a "grade" or a "score" to any R&B artist.

ha i agree with this obv

― lex pretend, Saturday, January 5, 2013 11:03 AM (6 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not true of, say, bob dylan though right lex?

I didn't think of that as a "rap" so much as one of those spoken word codas that bands like Human League used to throw in, made it more tolerable to approach it that way.

― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0)

Yeah you're probably right. There is still something about it that I find quite annoying everytime, maybe just his voice? Those Phill Oakey moments were always so perfect.

Losing You with Janelle Monae

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwKZRdY4A_0

I really have zero excuse for not knowing she was in town last week.

bring it on: all or nothing is still stone cold classic.

Rihanna gets more lines than in battleship!

https://soundcloud.com/solangeknowles/solange-looks-good-with

when is her album coming out?

i saw her live the other night, it sounded amazing but it was definitely stacked with tracks. not that i give a shit

covering "laundromat" in a laundromat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaZeETvyxaE

well this is the funniest thing ever

avenging us all for "eat the cake, anna mae"

beyoncé just standing there motionless doing her nails tho

http://u.cubeupload.com/kworb2/edeqC1.gif

https://mobile.twitter.com/GabetalkTWOmuch/status/465898908787277824

lots of "solange finally gets her first hit" jokes, which, sad lol

most watched solange video already

Really uncomfortable with the way the internet is celebrating this. An assault just doesn't seem funny at all to me, especially when we don't know the circumstances

yeah this is pretty fucked up

yay ad revenue

headlines you guys. viral clicks.

J/B's reax kinda scream "here goes Solange again" don't they?

*obligatory note that I know nothing about the sitch, of course!

either she's used to stuff like this or she felt jay-z had what was coming for him or she's keenly aware of not doing anything detrimental in public

interesting she left with solange. and she posted this the next day: http://instagram.com/p/ntRW9SPw3g/

that would be beyond supernaturally aware of not doing anything detrimental in public...then again she is Beyonce, maybe thats how her life is

there's a nonzero chance she was literally on an airplane when the video was leaked https://twitter.com/solangeknowles

pageant the pain away~

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/everyone-is-making-the-exact-same-joke-about-jay-z-and-1575183617

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BndHEDpIUAARg38.jpg

only funny tweet i've seen was this one: https://twitter.com/kingsleyyy/status/465897516056051712

Really uncomfortable with the way the internet is celebrating this. An assault just doesn't seem funny at all to me, especially when we don't know the circumstances

― Evan R, Monday, May 12, 2014 1:49 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark

oh for the love of god

i mean i'm probably an internet-clickbait-ad-dollarz-asshole but that twit pic up there about Jay at the family reunion made me lol even though assault is definitely not hilarious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWdhX9c_7FA

this was kind of funny and then I saw Hoos post a memepic on Facebook of a TMZ screenshot of this superimposed on Michelle Obama's #BringBackOurGirls picture and Evan R has a point

it's "assault" but it's also solange trying to beat up jay z, who has a bodyguard on him, as beyonce watches and laughs. it's funny

it's funny when people beat one another!

What is Solange/Who is Solange/What is a Solange?

Solange can refer to the French-Latin word for "solemn" or "dignified." It can also refer to a Christian saint, or a commune in France. But those definitions of the word are not what people are talking about today.

p shady imo for TMZ to refer to Solange simply as "Beyonce's sister"

Most people have no idea who you're talking about if you say "Solange"

I was gonna say, that's the least shady part of this whole thing

'yeah you later too'

what is a solangew

...a solange

let's all forget that typo happened

"i distinctly heard her say solanjew"

https://twitter.com/fatifatfatfat/status/465935314868240385

WAGNAH, Max. WAGNAH.

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/220793/why-are-people-mocking-that-vox-article-about-solange-attacking-jay-z/

OMG the attack of

this was kind of funny and then I saw Hoos post a memepic on Facebook of a TMZ screenshot of this superimposed on Michelle Obama's #BringBackOurGirls picture and Evan R has a point

― chillin' on an "awesome pretzel" hoagie (DJP), Monday, May 12, 2014 7:06 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just in the interest of clarity, in my echo chamber of left wing people the photoshopped-michelle thing has been making the rounds as a critique of using the fucked up crisis to pivot to intervention talk, and the TMZ screenshot fit into that joke train. not saying it was some trenchant truth to power shit or anything but def didn't intend to make light of whats happening there.

In the interest of clarity, my objection is less about the seriousness of Solange's attack on Jay-Z and more about seeing the most visible powerful African-Americans in America turned into a "lol black people" meme, which for obvious reasons irritates me.

i hadn't seen it from that angle, but now that you point that out to me its stupidly obvious. sorry to have irritated you.

I appreciate that. Thank you.

most visible powerful African-Americans in America

uh

I mean yr point stands but I would rank them no. 2 maybe

3 after oprah certainly

the Huxtables are no longer on the air

most visible powerful African-Americans in America

uh

― Οὖτις, Monday, May 12, 2014 6:48 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so where do you rank Michelle Obama then?

think it was just a bad joke

DJP otm

already seen far too many (one is too many) comments along the lines of "haha i knew under all that glamour they're just thugs"

tbf, any and all media would absolutely treat this with the same degree GETCHA POPCORN CELEBRITY MELTDOWN CLICKY CLICKY if this were angelina's sister trying to kick the shit outta brad

the social media bullshit pancakes with asshole syrup on the other hand

yeah but if it were angelina and brad there wouldn't be any "omg i knew they were secretly ratchet" crap

what generally rational and unprejudiced news source is engaging in "secretly ratchet" reporting here? link?

talking about like 75% of the comments dude

oh, yeah sure; if yer talking vox populi, for certain. People are idiots.

social media bullshit pancakes with asshole syrup

why would you write these awful words

e's talking vox populi iirc

if it were angelina and brad there'd be two months of serious, "worried" pop-psychiatry that would treat their relationship as part of a beautiful, tragic soap

i mean jen aniston got like a good decade of media psychiatry when she got dumped what do you think they'd do for angelina

oh for the love of god

― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, May 12, 2014 2:36 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Spoken like a true Gawker employee.

why would you write these awful words

forks"shrove"tofu

It's so hilarious how this is all scandalous since Jay has literally pled guilty to stabbing someone in a nightclub before

and solange has literally performed w/ of montreal in a nightclub before

as someone who's been stabbed in the eye once and sat thru of montreal live too many times (twice maybe?) let me tell you there's no comparison

Spoken like a true Gawker employee.

― Position Position, Tuesday, May 13, 2014 1:54 AM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao

what kind of person would stab our balls? :'(

NEW YORK (AP) — Beyonce, Jay Z and Solange say they have worked through and are moving on since a video leaked this week of Solange attacking Jay Z in an elevator.

"As a result of the public release of the elevator security footage from Monday, May 5th, there has been a great deal of speculation about what triggered the unfortunate incident. But the most important thing is that our family has worked through it," an exclusive statement to The Associated Press read Thursday. "Jay and Solange each assume their share of responsibility for what has occurred. They both acknowledge their role in this private matter that has played out in the public. They both have apologized to each other and we have moved forward as a united family."

The website TMZ posted the three-minute video Monday and said it was shot last week inside the Standard Hotel in New York City. The video appears to show Solange, Beyonce's sister, attacking Jay Z in Beyonce's presence. A security guard intervenes. The footage shows the performers in the outfits they wore to the Met Gala last week. There is no audio.

"The reports of Solange being intoxicated or displaying erratic behavior throughout that evening are simply false," the statement continued. "At the end of the day families have problems and we're no different. We love each other and above all we are family. We've put this behind us and hope everyone else will do the same."

The hotel said Wednesday it had fired the person who recorded the video.

Beyonce and Jay Z were married in 2008.

"We've put this behind us and hope everyone else will do the same."

I don't know, I'm having trouble putting the probably bad thing or words that Jay-Z said or did behind me. And I can't forgive Solange for the hurtful or abrasive or crazy things or words that she said in return. She may or may not ever get to take whatever it is back. This is really tough for me.

How do they expect us as fans to just forget about something we know nothing about?!

it looks by far the most likely explanation is that the attack was a blow-up over jay-z flirting with rachel roy (damon dash's ex) at the met gala.

now i don't want to read too much into subliminals and all but if that is true there's no way beyoncé posting a pic of her in an aaliyah t-shirt on instagram the day after the gala wasn't ruthless shade directed at rachel roy. solange may drop kick better than most but b is the master at ice cold passive aggression... i'm impressed.

Inside Edition had a body language expert analyze the video and give her take on what the participants were thinking when the confrontation happened. At that moment, I really wanted Putin to launch the nukes.

How does one get paid to analyze body language? I think I could make money doing this.

However that happens.

"body language experts" have been a thing in tabloids for at least a decade

they're the biggest hacks in history

well not really the biggest

i mean body language experts

handwriting analysts vs. body language experts

there needs to be official instagram experts b/c all the drama is taking place on there

voice inflection analysts v. handwriting analysts v. body language experts v. fox news pundits

Pretty sure they were arguing Black Keys versus White Stripes.

"this woman is kicking and punching jay-z furiously. in my expert opinion, she must be angry at him for some reason."

i had no idea rachel ray was with dame dash, this is more complex than i even imagined

ha not rachel ray, rachel roy the fashion designer. she used to model at rockawear and it's pretty well known jay and dame used to pass the girls there between themselves. dame dated rachel and had a child with her, then left her for aaliyah and then only got back with her after aaliyah died. bey wearing the aaliyah shirt with shades on and the stoniest face ever totally reads as shots fired - taunting this chick who was flirting with her husband that she was always some guy's second choice.

yeah, i was kidding. prob shoulda said "more complex.com that I even imagined"

the knowles family actually releasing a statement is the most shocking turn of events so far

At that moment, I really wanted Putin to launch the nukes.

― chillin' on an "awesome pretzel" hoagie (DJP), Thursday, May 15, 2014 9:09 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

afaikotrm

the real money

lol at being an adult who cares about beyonce's instagram

and what do you, an adult, care about

Putin's Instagram.

#overthrowbackthursday

dont throw shade on me!

and what do you, an adult, care about

anti-vaccination idiots
the legalization of black murder in the US
climate change
providing for a family while saving for retirement
the stagnation of my career
the devaluing of classical music
tacos

Bullshit, I've never seen elevator security cam footage of any of that.

I've seen taco footage that would chill you to the core

If lindelhof got his mitts on blade runner I can totally hear Rutger saying that

taco footage=toe jammin'

tacocore

taco footage=vagina sex w. toes

what if solange beat up borat

It would be, I think,...very nice!!!!!1 hhahaha !

i think so too

because borat says very nice

he used to

those were the days

I've seen taco footage that would chill you to the core

― chillin' on an "awesome pretzel" hoagie (DJP), Friday, May 16, 2014 2:17 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

attack chimichangas on fire off the shoulder of orion

Wasn't the True EP that was released TWO FUCKING YEARS AGO supposed to be like this warm up before an imminent third album??? ugh

she thought the other writer/producer was getting too much credit for the EP and stopped working with him, so i guess not putting out more music is part of a brilliant plan to get credit for her music

That was mostly done with Dev Hynes, yes? Dude definitely has a "sound" and he squeezed Solange right into it. I'm not gonna rob her of credit for those songs altogether, but that EP could've featured any number of other singers on top of Hynes' productions.

She's a newlywed this weekend, though, so hooray!

This was released on a compilation last year btw! Where were we?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulg_0tDbqNU

Ooh that's cool

this third record ever going to happen or what

i feel like there were some short videos from the studio that went up a few months ago, but it (obvs) doesn't seem like she's in too much of a hurry

went up on instagram* i should say

"Ps : I swear I'm almost done with the album."

New album out on Friday!

http://www.solangemusic.com/digitalbook/

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

It's called A Seat at the Table and contains 21 songs. Exciting!

http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/solange-announces-a-seat-at-the-table-album-featuring-some-exciting-guest-appearances-news.24378.html?

lmao what is this House of Leaves nonsense

so fucking excited for this record

21 songs is scary

I hope all 21 are good, but the odds are against that being the case.

8 of them are interludes

Ugh. Interludes.

excited for the tweet backing vocals

Why does track 9 says Feat. Sampha Feat. Sampha twice?

I hate that artwork yet I'm very excited for this one. 'Some things never seem to fucking work' and 'Losing You' are two of my favorite songs of the past decade.

Also it's fucking 2016, interludes shouldn't exist at this point. Maybe one or two at most if you can't think of a better transition but eight!?

Interesting interview here.

http://www.stereogum.com/1901721/solange-talks-black-joy-master-p-her-punk-album-a-seat-at-the-table/franchises/interview/

She lists Minnie Riperton, Tweet and Syreeta as some of her influences for this album. Sounds good to me.

no interludes > deletable interludes > neverending tracks

why on earth did that interview get taken down?

I presume because it contained details about the album that she didn't want people to know about until it was released. Would wager that it will go back up after tomorrow.

spoken word intro > hidden tracks > indistinct chatter before the song starts (the longer the worst) > interludes

this album is beautiful

Yeah, this is a gorgeous record. The production is so lush.

it's also boring as hell

hum. I'm 2/3 through the first listen of the album and so far it's very pleasant but no song really stands out.

I like this a lot, I like boring shit.

also the interludes are fine