Elbow - The Seldom Seen Kid (March 2008)

The snippet sounds real good. I heart Elbow.

very excited

considering they have yet to release a bad album

i had already nominated them among the Most consistent discographies? before Stan even started this thread. very excited, of course. hope they've taken their music in a weirder, wilder direction.

love their first album but they've been a case of diminishing returns for me, so i hope this record does something a little different

Dec 17, 2007

Elbow have exclusively told NME.COM that their fourth album will be called 'The Seldom Seen Kid'.

duh

What I really like about it is that I know 100% that I don't love it as much as I will. Immediacy isn't an Elbow strong point - it took me about six months to really get into Asleep... - but the songs sort of sneak up on you gradually over a period of time.

^^^yes. At first I thought Asleep was the worst one. That album especially worms its way in and before you know it you have a new favourite album of 2001 (well, not really, but it's definitely top 5).

Also, my very first hearing of "Leaders of The Free World" was an XFM expose, a radio run-through. I hated it. God, what a subtle band, though. A few listens later and I was sold.

sorry bro, i was fucking with y'all.

i was just thinking, 'nrq doesn't normally dig this shit'...

your fucking with is however OTM. i'm not sure how this has come about. or what it should be called.

i was copying and pasting something young alex macpherson said,.

might have known. he wasn't always wrong, y'know! just, on the whole politics and guitars front he was a trifle imbalanced. oh, and that Klaxons review (/guardian career).

this is great news! they were on V2 so i was wondering if they would continue. love all three albums with some great b-sides, some of the best in the 2000's.

I love Elbow, and have high hopes for this.

elbow, arse more like.

http://www.myspace.com/elbowmusic

"Grounds for Divorce" is the first single, March 10th. (it's on their myspace)

Sounds immaculate.

Subtle, too - again. Yay!

Dedicated LP site: http://www.theseldomseenkid.com/

Video for first single: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL4mywCOJXA

I only know Marc Ribot from his work on Tom Waits' Rain Dogs, so this is probably a stupid question, but is that him doing the guitar solo on Audience With The Pope about three minutes in?

I dunno; I'm covering this for Drowned In Sound and have pointed ut that it sounds like Rain Dogs-era Waits - is Ribot credited anywhere?

Don't think so, it probably isn't him - we'd have heard about it, like that duet thing.

Hold on, I googled ribot elbow seldom seen kid and it appears that it may be him after all

False alarm. Was on a page with a review of the new black keys album. (Slow cell phone connection bt the moment, sorry for the confusion)

Hahaha, I read that exact page a few hours ago...

Guy also revealed, exclusively to 6 Music, that the band are planning a b-sides album:

"Which in itself we are classing as a fifth album because we are so proud of the material on there. With the exception of one song that shall remain nameless of the 65 songs that we have released so far, we are very proud of them all. "

"The b-sides album Dead In the Boot will come out later."

The first single from The Seldom Seen Kid will be "Grounds For Divorce."

Yeah, they've been promising a B-sides compilation for a while. Nice that it has a title now.

"We all love Columbo"...

U.S. release date and tour announced (from their E-mail newsletter):

Elbow's new album 'The Seldom Seen Kid' gets its US release on Tuesday April 22nd.

The album will be preceded by the single 'One Day Like This' on Tuesday March 18th and the band will head Stateside during the spring to play some long-awaited shows for their US and Canadian fans.

Here's a full rundown of all the North American dates...

April
26 - Webster Hall, New York, NY ( Buy Tickets - On sale now)
27 - Sixth & I Historical Synagogue, Washington, DC (More Info - On sale now)
29 - Park West, Chicago, IL (Buy Tickets - On sale now)
30 - Fine Line Music Cafe, Minneapolis, MN (Buy Tickets - On sale now)

May
2 - Bluebird Theatre, Denver, CO (Buy Tickets - On sale 7th Mar)
3 - The Depot, Salt Lake City, UT (Buy Tickets - On sale 8th Mar)
5 - Showbox at the Market, Seattle, WA (Buy Tickets - On sale 8th Mar)
6 - St Andrew's Wesley Church, Vancouver, Canada (Buy Tickets - On sale 7th Mar)
8 - Bimbo's 365 club, San Francisco, CA (More Info - On sale now)
9 - Avalon, Los Angeles, CA (Buy Tickets - On sale now)

ugh "One Day Like This" is fucking awful

Agreed. Disappointed that they seem to think that's the song that will break this album in America.

YEAH, i need to see them again. the one time i saw them they were great and the Avalon is a great place to see a band.

I was just going to check out the tourdates on their site and their myspace and I thoughtlessly typed this in my address bar: http://www.elbowmusic.com/

!?

'One Day Like This' sounds like Mike & The Mechanics, y/n?

really odd choice for a single, even if they chop it down to 3 mins.

I'll hear the lead U.S. single soon...see if Rutherford seeps through...

http://drownedinsound.com/release/view/12949

Great review Nick.

I loved their performance on Jonathan Ross last week.

Disappointed that they seem to think that's the song that will break this album in America.

If they haven't "broken" by now, I doubt they'll find themselves in Coldplay's or Franz Ferdinand's sold-out-bigger-venue shoes anytime soon (not that they aren't, in my opinion, more deserving than either). Instead I think it's the (viral?) song they'll use to remind their limited fanbase in America that they're still together...and move on from there.

They certainly aren't the first band to employ a teaser/movie trailer mentality with a lead single. (Besides, AmReeKans do like their sing-along anthems, non?)

'One Day Like This' sounds like Mike & The Mechanics, y/n?

Not to my ears.

It sounds like Embrace done right to me.

(Ha! Touché on zee Coldplay reference Nick!)

Nice review! The start is reassuringly familiar :-)

Now that I've read past the review and all the way into the comments ("thats all a bit hagiographic" - maybe, but again, deserved; much more than their supposed contemporaries),

Well said, Nick!

xpost

edit: Now that I've read past the review and... shoulda been...Now that I've read past the review's Coldplay reference and...)

Don't get me wrong, I love the album, "One Day Like This" is just not one of those things I turn to Elbow for.

"One Day Like This" strikes me as this LP's "Grace Under Pressure"

Except that "Grace Under Pressure" wasn't a complete puddle of sop, and had a brilliant guitar line. "One Day Like This" takes its 6 minutes to drive the album's considerable sonic charms into the ground.

To each his/her own.

Mind you, "Grace Under Pressure" remains my all-time-fave from Cast.. - esp. as the centerpiece of the "Crawling With Idiot" to "Flying Dream 143" suite.

But there are some analogous sonic/thematic qualities between "Grace.." and "One Day..." that in my view warrants "One Day..." neither the title of Seldom Seen Kid's ruiner, nor its qualification as "a complete puddle of sop."

'One Day Like This' is doubtless intended to be the 'Grace Under Pressure'-style track on this record and there are similarities, but it just doesn't work in the same way. I still hear Mike & The Mechanics. a comparison i saw elsewhere was Snow Patrol, which is no more desirable.

i like this album a lot, certainly more than 'Leaders...', but it does die a bit in the last third or so.

Evidently I don't listen to enough Mike & The Mechanics or Snow Patrol to share your and Simon H's points of view.

On the other hand, deliberately insulating oneself from the above has its advantages.

I don't know either of those bands very well, I just really hate that song.

If given the option? I'll take "One Day Like This" 8 days/week and twice on Sundays over ever hearing "Lay Down Your Cross" again. The latter's eminently more hatable. And which, upon further poking around, appears to have only made its way onto the U.S. version of Cast.... I guess you could call it the definitive non-bonus bonus track. Add tracking down the Euro/UK version of Cast... to my to-do list.

"You are the only thing in any room you're ever in..."

Guy does have a way with words.

So...the album appears to be selling well in the UK (assuming Amazon.co.uk is a fair indicator) and ILM's all aflutter with talk of third eye blind? Ain't that a shite state of affairs?

Aye, I'm kind of sad this isn't getting more discussion round these parts. But also not at all surprised. Nice note about turnitup.org in the sleevenotes - Garvey commented on my original Imperfect Sound Forever article @ Stylus ages ago, and The Seldom Seen Kid does sound absolutely wondrous, even more so than their other records.

i'm looking forward to the release.
might have to listen to 'leaders of the free world' in a bit more depth first though.

In terms of practicing my love of Elbow, there's something (probably the overtly political themes) about Leaders... that has, to date, kept me from taking to it the way I did Asleep... and especially Cast.... But maybe that awareness will allow me to explore from deliberately different point of view?

As for your sleevenotes* shout-out: fantastic! Sometimes all it takes is someone to articulate what another person's hearing but can't that just might make a difference.

And as it relates to the new album, my evaluation copy will be forever shelved once my eBay purchase makes its way across the pond, and my Rega Apollo will be its second stop after the post office. Funny thing is my wife's ears have become more attuned (...my fault, all my fault...) to bad sound quality and she remarked that the 256/kbps version we've got right now just doesn't do the album justice (far too tinny!).

* For those of you interested in reading more about music dynamics (and simply put, Nick's article is a must read), etc. the Web site's actually located at http://www.TurnMeUp.org/.

Re. LofFW; the second half of this album rewards going back to and getting comfortably familiar with more than almost anything else they've done thus far, I feel. For a long time I thought the second side was weak and boring, but it's actually really lovely and personal, and beautifully understated. Ian Mathers nailed it in his Stylus review way back when.

Although my appreciation for LotFW hasn't yet equaled that of their first two, "The Everthere" has always been tops - agreed that the album's back-loaded in a slightly counterintuitive way.

I've always liked Elbow, without ever loving them, but I think this might be the album to change that; Mirrorball is the most gorgeous song I've heard in ages, both in content and execution. A review somewhere compared it to prime Talk Talk which seems like a very apt choice - the way the words and music mesh and work *perfectly* together feels very reminiscent of The Colour of Spring, to these ears at least. The album as a whole also seems like a genuine grower, which is an all too rare treat.

"the way the words and music mesh and work *perfectly* together feels very reminiscent of The Colour of Spring, to these ears at least."

That's exactly what I thought when i heard the album for the first time on playback on Xfm last week !

the style of drumming in particular is very Talk Talk

Guy Garvey also does a good Peter Gabriel impersonation several times on the album.

It's a wonderful album, not least because of the quality of the production (and as such, it really does need to be heard on CD, not on some shitty download), and I speak as someone who has never really got the point of Elbow before. My only initial reservation was the pacing of the second half, but that soon resolves itself.

They'll be touring it with a string section, by the way.

They'll be touring it with a string section

Swoon. Home and abroad?

I also earlier read that they'd like to perform "the whole album as a show" after their initial world tour.

Awesome review in The Mirror'

2/5
14/03/2008
Guy Garvey and his Salford-based crew’s fourth album prompts a question too important to be ignored – whatever happened to rock ’n’ roll?
In Elbow’s case, after 17 years together it has developed into a diverting range of sonic shapes and textures. Bravo! They have taken the music that changed the world and ladled pseudo-intelligent lyrics over the top.
Welcome to Elbow rock – home to the limp poetry of Starlings where the mysterious Mr Garvey claims, “You are the only thing in any room you’re ever in.”
You what?

Earnestly soulful in The Fix, he declares that “the fix is in”. He is right. Once upon a time, rock ’n’ roll was a wild, other-worldly beast straining at the door of your very being. The Elbow generation have turned it into a forum for droll references and audience head-nodding. Vibrant participation has curdled into smug passivity.
The nervous tittering, boozy reverence and strictly-no-dancing atmosphere that surrounded the live launch of this album made it feel like a funeral.
Elbow fans may get chin-stroking pleasure from the slightly ironic James Bond theme pastiche An Audience With The Pope. But will it really help them get their rocks off? Of course not.
Elbow, and the likes of Snow Patrol and Radiohead – the latter being the band Elbow are most often compared to – wouldn’t know what it means to get their rocks off if they were stoned in the street. And I don’t mean on funny cigarettes.
The track Some Riot suggests we might be in for heart-stopping rock that hits you right between the eyes. Dream on. It’s Garvey warbling like a forlorn choirboy over a sleepy piano.
The Bones Of You is as decorative as a Masterchef entrée,
but it sure doesn’t rock. Or roll. As soon as a rumbling guitar take-off begins, it quickly sinks away, mumbling apologetically.
The Seldom Seen Kid is a far too nice (ie weak) album by a band desperately trying to cling onto a dwindling audience.
No wonder Led Zeppelin’s reunion caused such excitement. Planty and co may be rocking their pension books, but they can still elbow this band – and their dreary ilk – clean off the planet

Yeah! It's not metal enough!

but they can still elbow this band – and their dreary ilk – clean off the planet

this part A+++++++++++++ classic will buy again

I read the Mirror review earlier this week and while out tonight was telling a friend about it. His remark?

"Led Zepplin? You just can't go down that route without looking like a twat."

this seems alright on the first listen, but still not a patch on 'asleep'..better than the last two though. I do NOT get the talk talk comparisons at all and never really have.

seems alright on the first listen

Some folks reckon the new one's a grower (for some).

For me, well, Seldom Seen Kid had me at "How dare the Premier..."

In other news: the gents have finally got 'round to resurrecting their official Web site to something resembling functional (I do not share their designer's love of Flash...) and yet their discography page as a distinctly alluring CoverFlow feel to it.

Somebody's listening: according to Billboard.com, "Elbow's fourth album, The Seldom Seen Kid (Fiction/Polydor/Universal) entered at No. 5, a career-best."

Re. LofFW; the second half...rewards going back to and getting comfortably familiar with more than almost anything else they've done thus far...

Listening more intently to Leaders... and appreciating it more now than I did back when it first hit made its way to my ears. But, maybe, in a similarly backward, slightly counterintuitive way Leaders... makes more sense to me, musically, now that I've heard Seldom... than it did as the album that followed Cast....

i really liked Nick's review upthread. it sounds like this album, deservingly so, is getting some good press. it's nice to see such a good band start to get it's due...

So, finally, after ordering it three different times (1x at Amazon.co.uk, 2x at eBay.co.uk, the second time with success), my first and only copy of The Seldom Seen Kid on CD arrived in Saturday's post.

With permission, I'd like to hybridize mike t-diva & Nick's sentiments above and agree that the album really does need to be heard on CD, not on some shitty download because it does sound absolutely wondrous, even more so than their other records.

And unlike Radiohead's penchant for overproduction & overcompression (cf. In Rainbows), where they put everything up in your face (or, as it were, in your ears), there's so much more hidden in the grooves here, so much more to find-so much more worth discovering.

hmmm. i'm halfway through ripping it as i read that, dblcheeksneek :)

looking forward to it. i think.

Fantastic - complete- album.
Leave that idiot Mirror boy ^^ to rock out to ,Planty'

Repeated plays have confirmed this as my favourite album of 2008 to date.

...and I may well not see a better gig this year. Sublime.

um, nick, what does this mean?
Angrier politically and more contended emotionally than before, Elbow are no less beautiful and imaginative.
i mean the "contended emotionally" part. "contented" or "contentious"? not trying to nit pick; i'm curious

"Contented" - starting with the last album but reaching a peak on this, Guy / the band, seem more settled and happier to me - Mirrorball appears to be about a baby, for instance. The kind of resentful fumbles that typified some of the first two albums have drifted away and been replaced by a maturity.

What Mark Potter told me about "Mirrorball":

"Love is something that Guy has always written about. He’s very much in love, for the first time in a long time, and so it’s about the way that love makes you feel. Mirrorball is about how you feel the day after you’ve met somebody that you know is special, when the world looks differently to you."

And "Weather To Fly":

"On Weather to Fly, Guy talks about how we feel as a group of mates, and as a group of musicians who are lucky enough still to be doing what we love after all these years. It’s actually my favourite song on the album, and I’m afraid it brings a bit of a tear to my eye, because it’s a bit of an “I’m proud of you, lads” from Guy to the band."

And Brian Glancy (the titular "seldom seen kid") and "Grounds For Divorce":

"Brian Glancy was a local Manchester musician, who had been around for many years. He was just such a loved guy: he was best friends with multi-millionaire rock stars and homeless people in the street. His music was very delicate: he played beautiful, heartfelt songs on an acoustic guitar. He’s very sadly missed. I don’t think there was a musician in Manchester that wasn’t mourning for quite a while when we lost him."

"Friend of Ours is a direct goodbye to [Brian Glancy], from all of us, whereas Grounds For Divorce is really about the way we felt. After his death, there were a lot of people drinking heavily, in a couple of our local bars in Manchester. Guy’s lyric – “I’m working on a cocktail called Grounds For Divorce” – was basically him saying: it’s getting a bit on top me now, and I want to get out of this feeling. So it’s not about divorcing your missus; it’s about divorcing a feeling within oneself."

And "Loneliness of a Tower Crane Driver":

"Guy actually met a guy in a pub – there’s a theme running here, the pub seems to come into it quite a lot! – and he was a power crane driver on one of the work sites near the studio. They started talking, and Guy was saying: Oh, it must be great doing your job and being up there. The guy was saying: Yeah, I absolutely love it, I’ve got my own little toilet, and I’ve got a TV up there."

"But after a few beers, it came out that this guy was very lonely. He wasn’t liked on the site, because his was the highest paid job and so he was making more money than anyone else. By the time he got down from his power crane at the end of the working day, everyone had gone. Therefore he didn’t have any friends on the site. So it’s really about that isolated sort of feeling."

And about the album:

"So it’s about love, it’s about loss – with Brian, obviously – it’s about hope, and it’s about us being comfortable with where we are musically. I don’t think that we’ve ever been so confident with the music that we make."

Guy on stage last night: "There's probably not an album from a Manchester band coming out this year that won't be about Brian. The new Doves album will be dedicated to him, and there's stuff on the new I Am Kloot album as well."

i just bought the Geffen Records US release of this album. it sounds awesome on CD and they put this on the last page:

"To reserve the excitement, emotion and dynamics of the original performances this record is intentionally quieter than some. For full enjoyment simply Turn Me Up! (TurnMeUp.org)"

Stuck this on just now and hey...it's really growing on me. About to toddle off and delete a rather nasty Facebook note I wrote on the day I first listened to it.

Fucking hell, every time I press "edit" or "delete" I get an error message. It'll have to stay. But I don't necessarily hold every sentiment therein (or at least, I don't hold them so strongly). "Starlings" and "The Fix" are still crap tho. :D

On the other hand, "The Loneliness Of A Tower Crane Driver" might be their best song.

this has been my most played CD of 2008, it just gets better and better. not sure if this is as good as Asleep In the Back but better than the last two and that is saying a hell of a lot.

<a href="http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article4720677.ece";>Elbow's Mercury Prize victory</a>

Or, put differently: The Seldom Seen Kid garnered Elbow some long overdue hype/pub/press/what-'ave-ya.

Wicked.

FFS, forgot we have faux HTML here on ILM:

Elbow's Mercury Prize victory

Or, put differently: The Seldom Seen Kid garnered Elbow some long overdue hype/pub/press/what-'ave-ya.

Wicked.

Good band, they deserve the recognition. Their albums are so reliably solid one can take them for granted. I'll go listen to the new one again right now.

i was lukewarm to this at first,but it has turned into a "grower" which tend to be the best types of albums. seeing them this past may at st. andrews wesley church (vancouver) helped to.

i wrote about that here last night: Mercury Music Prize 2008 tittle-tattle aggregator

very happy for Elbow, love "Mirrorball," "An Audience With the Pope," "The Loneliness of a Tower Crane Driver" and "One Day Like This."

Life's too short for "reliably solid." Elbow should be taken out the back of the barn and put down for the greater good.

Yr kind of right and rong here all at once I feel MC. I've got some time for Elbow's mumbly drone-athons, sometimes they make me think of a grubby Britishes Califone when they're working proper. It's just that at the same time I feel like their fanbase mostly likes them for having beards and not sounding like fun, which is what I assume the Mercury award was given for.

I'm aware that the Mercury Prize hates fun but I'm bewildered by the general acceptance of Elbow's win. This country always seems happy to settle for twelfth best, elevate time servers over visionaries.

Dude, people like Kasabian ffs.

It's the Tim Henman thing; "we" prefer a nice, tidy, deferential, obedient game player who never wins anything to a bit of rough like Murray who sweats, says fuck and actually wins things.

Murray is still a middle class ponce who happens to not have a Home Counties accent tho.

I don't think Elbow's best stuff is background Dadrock, they're often more oblique and songless and musical than that.

I agree with "songless."

Also, unlike Elbow, Andy Murray has had a number one single.

lol Murray got shut out of the number one slot, shurely? like he's the tennis "Vienna"

You must remember how the Spice Girls put their Xmas single back by one week to give him a clear run at the top, albeit for only one week.

Anybody who can keep Louis Hamilton off the Sports Personality of the Year top-spot is alright by me.

I

I know of know environment or arena where Tim Henman is preferred over Andy Murray.

(I know, yay me!)

Murray's first round match at Wimbledon this year was one such environment and arena.

Pretty sure all those blue-rinsed plastic-Union-Flag-bowler-hat-wearing twatriots up on Henmang Hill prefer him over naughty "lol I hate England" McEnroe-alike-might-actual-win-something-one-day Andy "Braveheart" Murray.

Well exactly. Elbow fans need to be told "see those twatriots up on Henmang Hill? That's you in ten years' time, that is."

re: Mercury, right band, completely wrong album. This is their weakest. It grew on me a little (as said above) but I never now feel compelled to listen to it.

...That's you in ten years' time, that is.

'cept Elbow's been around for nearly 20, tosser.

WHEN INDIES ATTACK: A CHANNEL 5 SPECIAL

Well, Noodle Vague, it's SO MUCH cooler to put something down when you got fuck all to say. But I'm all for you and your "I don't actually have a favorite band, you see, I'm a 'critic'" chums to keep the loose stool dripping from out your keyboards.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/noodle_vague/raheem.gif

Aye, see you, why should ah spend ten poond of ma children's inheritance on yir shitty recird aye? And for that reason, ah'm oot.

I don't actually have a favorite band, I'm white btw.

This is hardly up to the Carter USM/Corrs standard of aggrieved fan lurkers.

Wait til the Henmang fans google this shit.

I'm white btw

Congratulations.

Define lurkers. By that do you mean, I have a day job and don't spend every minute of my life on ILM? Then yeah, that's me.

Nailed it.

Who knew Guy Garvey had a day job?

Who knew Noodle Vague wasn't living in his mother's basement?

Does she still pay for your Internet access?

http://www.tvgasm.com/newsgasm/images/newsgasm/Gong%20Show.jpg

So witty, how is that you don't have a day job?

Or is mum not yet done cooking your dinner?

Angry, angry young man.

"young"

Sorry, I just thought the title of this thread wasn't "watch Noodle and Marcello make out." Wrong room. My bad.

Guid day, aam Bobby Gillespie ay motoon krautrock pioneers Primal Scream an' aam bonnie radge at thes marcello carlin' dude tay.

Yir no Boaby yir a fafty-yir-auld man reminiscin' oan whit he had oh hang on a wee minute

How did I miss this upthread: you guys don't like Elbow.

We get it.

Got anything else?

elbowhurt

It's very poor, not even worth a "product of a discourse" zing.

Q: Got anything else?

A: No, sadly our instruments came equipped with but one note and just keep playin' it and playin' it and playin' it and playin' it and playin' it and playin' it and playin' it and playin' it and playin' it and see, that's how we amuse ourselves.

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Welcome. Tonight Marcello Carlin and Noodle Vague will debate the merits of Elbow's latest album, the Mercury Prize-winning, The Seldom Seen Kid.

Our debate will be moderated by Just got offed.

Who knew DJ Martian had a sock-puppet?

http://enterthephoenix.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/omglolz.jpg

Awww, where'd you guys go...? You were just starting to sound sentient.

Certainly didn't mean to scare you off by matching your idiocy line for line...

Come back, wontcha?

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some of us have desk jobs that allow us to post endlessly to ilx while still getting paid.

Admittedly I am not one of these people.

some of us have desk jobs that allow us to post endlessly to ilx while still getting paid.

I miss that job/those jobs sometimes.

some of us have desk jobs that allow us to post intermittently to ilx while still getting played

This is about the third time in 17 years there's been a deserved winner. I thought we were going to see a re-run of the Richard Hawley debacle a couple of years back, and for the prize ending up going to the Banksy-What's-On-Your-iPod?, edgy-as-fuck, well-weapon Burial album, or some other twot.

well-weapon

Oh no you didn't

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Life's too short for "real guitar."

This is all a bit pathetic, isn't it?

I said that when the album came out but would anyone listen? Nope!

As tired as Geir at this stage in proceedings.

Marcello loves them really. He just hasn't realised it yet.

Yeah, people were saying all this (and to me) about Big Country 25 years ago.

I was right then and I'm right now. You wait and see.

Elbow Live At Abbey Road
The BBC have set up an Elbow Abbey Road mini-site at www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/event/elbow

Visit the site now to watch a video of the stunning Abbey Road concert in all its full length glory.

There's also a gallery of pictures capturing the magic of the evening and a video of 'Grounds For Divorce' for you to embed on your website, myspace or facebook profiles. You can watch this video below.

Don't forget - BBC viewers can still press the "Red" button on any BBC channel and enjoy the whole concert in the comfort of their own living rooms.

The full boxset of the performance is available to pre-order now and includes a CD of the show in a card wallet, a DVD of the action, 4 photo postcards and a 16 page booklet.

Click here to place your order now.

(jesus, what the hell happened to this thread?)

that looks really cool, thanks for the info Stan.

Live @ Studio Brussel's Club 96 (in front of about 150 people - "Club 69" = 69 people who have won a duo ticket ) two days ago: http://stubru.be/node/93542?page=1

("Herbeluister" = listen)

(or just get this download link )

Club 96 <- duh @ my typing. It's Club 69, obv.