ILX : What is The Genre Of Music You Dislike/Hate Most?

Great thread

Well, of course the last option seems sensible. But on the whole, nu/alt/country has little that gives any hope to me that I'd like it, although it's always possible.

Where in God's name is Smoove Jazz?

On the Fast show thread?

Dance

sigh (but at least you didn't put IDM)

whither grime?

Genre itself.

Hippie.

reggae, easy

Dance

sigh (but at least you didn't put IDM)

Told you I wasn't putting sub-genres. Plus in record shops its labelled as Dance and that's the way it's on this poll.
If I put sub-genres for this then I'd have to for others.
There was NO WAY I was putting Electronica, so Dance it is.

Indie, although opera is the only one that I own none of and spend approximately 0% of my time actually listening to.

All this is ok, for me. "AOR"?

Don't hate. such a cop out choice but i couldn't bring myself to vote for any of the real ones.

I guess I don't hate indie, it's just mostly boring to me and omnipresent.

Voted for "Indie/Alternative" but for similar reasons would have voted for "Minimal Techno" had it been an option

Each genre can always have it's own spin-off poll with each micro-genre as an option. Which I think would be the best way.

Other people can start them obviously as I wont be doing so.

blueski can do the "dance" one.

Voted for "blues."

If push comes to shove, I'm going for the most genre-adhesive genre, the one with littlest scope for expansion and innovation..."blues".

Told you I wasn't putting sub-genres.

AOR
Metal
Progressive Rock
Punk
Post-Punk

But blues elements can work in certain contexts, contexts often comprised from other genres listed here. It disappoints me when you can pigeonhole a band into a particular specific movement.

Progressive Post Punk Metal AOR is not a sub-genre it's a way of life! (tm)

That last boring one.

Judging by the Why is The Genre Of 'Metal' so maligned? thread , Metal might runaway with it.

No point in doing a metal sub genre poll as Nu-Metal would walk it.

Louis, I pretty much agree with you re blues.

reggae, easy

Aw... I was just listening to Desmond Dekker on the way to work today.

I picked opera, for the exact reasons Jordan stated. I own none and don't really see myself, ever, picking any up.

Metal will not run away with this poll. In fact, I'll be astonished if it gets more than 3 votes.

*cue for LZBC jokesters to all vote metal*

Louis did you read that other thread?

And ILX is full of Guardian readers and this is what they have to say
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/music/2007/12/why_is_metal_still_ignored_by.html

Gah, most of 'em were either trolling, or have somehow moved away from ILX over the past 4 years. As for the Guardian thing, ILX's readers often only post commentisfree articles in order to laff at them. There's a good deal of opprobrium on that comment list, but an equal amount of support.

Maybe I should post on that metal maligned thread.

If push comes to shove, I'm going for the most genre-adhesive genre, the one with littlest scope for expansion and innovation..."blues".

people really need to start digging into the depths of acoustic blues, which is full of bizzare insane variety and goodness, before Stevie Ray Vaughan came around and fucked the whole thing up for a generation.

This being said, and knowing that I'm ignorant of the genre, I voted for reggae for exactly the reason you listed above.

I love how 'Classical' is a 'genre'. Great stuff.

Outo of all these I have to choose metal, not because I actively hate it, but because it has never ever done anything to me. In all the other genres listed there are at least some tunes that I really like.

If you'd put opera, I'd have voted opera - but in its absence, I'm afraid that it has to be metal. My inner unreconstructed 14-year-old crypto-Maoist punk rocker has never quite stopped seeing it as The Enemy, I'm afraid... which is a tad unfair, as I reconciled myself with prog and AOR a long, long time ago.

Opera is on the list.

Maybe I should post on that metal maligned thread.

I don't think I've ever seen you post your thoughts on any metal band ever.

You forgot my number one single most hated genre of all-time: new age! My second most hated is acid jazz which I suppose falls under jazz but jeez - I love soooooo much jazz. Then again, jazz FANS are a nasty sort, ain't they? So maybe I'll go that route

Third most hated genre is filk (not folk) but I've never been sure if a genre boundary really needs to be drawn around it. Folk should be up there though, no?

What is filk?

I don't think I've ever seen you post your thoughts on any metal band ever.

never listen to it, don't know any 00s metal except nu-metal hits, have predictable negative views towards it as many metal fans do towards the stuff i listen to most.

i think there was an OPO metal song thread a while back and i said 'Enter: Sandman'

I just looked it up on wikipedia and wished I hadn't.

More people on here hate Metal than Country?

what's the predictable negative views then? (I suppose that should be on the other thread.

What did you think though when the prodigy started getting lots of metal fans at shows and lots of coverage in Kerrang and the like?

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My inner unreconstructed 14-year-old crypto-Maoist punk rocker has never quite stopped seeing it as The Enemy

Similarly, my inner unreconstructed 14-year-old metal fanatic has never quite stopped seeing indie as The Enemy.

And my inner unreconstructed 14-year-old techno-is-the-future dance music fanatic has never quite stopped seeing Anything With Loud Guitars as The Enemy.

ilx is clearly the enemy

Opera is the one thing I have never found anything I like about it.
Nessun Dorma aside. I am surprised at the blues hate though. I wonder how much of the hate for any of these genres is for the type of fans they attract rather than the actual music.

My hate of blues has nothing to do with fans and almost everything to do with the formulaic (and hence predictable) aspect of the music.

weather channel

Dance. If I want to dance, I can dance to anything. I don't need the souless tripe.

...added to the fact that because it's a well-established musical tradition, people claim it ought to be promoted and practiced, and speak of it with reverence, despite the fact that it owes its existence to a fundamental lack of imagination. xxpost

whither grime?

-- That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, January 2, 2008 11:51 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

My hate of blues has nothing to do with fans and almost everything to do with the formulaic (and hence predictable) aspect of the music.

I didn't mean you though.

What did you think though when the prodigy started getting lots of metal fans at shows and lots of coverage in Kerrang and the like?

didn't mind so much because like Howlett i'd been listening to Senser, RATM and shit like that before The Fat Of The Land anyway.

My hate of blues has nothing to do with fans and almost everything to do with the formulaic (and hence predictable) aspect of the music.

Compared to what? Indie? Metal?

So did I!
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Metal has so many sub-genres its hardly formulaic. Indie is the same unless you just judge it on the type NME covers.

I would probably vote indie, a lot because of the fans, but it's been stuck together with alternative, of which there is a lot that I like. That being said, I've pretty much come to the conclusion at this point that there is good stuff in every genre, and it's unfair to dismiss things out of hand, but honestly (and I realize this isn't going to be a popular opinion), I wouldn't be sad at all if I never heard a hip-hop song again.

Well, I could name dozens of blues men - and women - just from the 20s who (to me) sound nothing like each other; the gentle lyricism of Blind Willie McTell is nothing like the laconic black humour of Furry Lewis is nothing like the classy groove of Lonnie Johnson is nothing like the complex genius of Skip James ..... and so on.

But, I agree, in that it'll all sound scratchy and strange if you don't spend time with it; honestly though, i see and hear a lot of Indie stuff, and the emotional and expressive range seems a lot narrower than that of the country blues (never mind Chicago electric stuff, Texas or Burnside and Kimbrough coming out of the Mississippi hills in the 80s)

That was xpost to Herman BTW

I would probably vote indie

-- Jeff Treppel, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 20:41 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Not J-Pop?

Actually, I listen to a fair amount of Japanese music. A lot of the J-pop is silly, but a lot of it cheers me right up. Anime soundtrack stuff is also pretty rad, and they have a really interesting take on metal/industrial.

I'd be able to pay more attention to the various emotional and expressive ranges of blues singers if constantly strumming I-IV-V weren't so fucking boring.

constantly strumming I-IV-V

Yeah, that's Skip James summed up alright.

What is filk?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filk_music"> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filk_music

Do NOT click on a full stomach.

The most full of shit about music guy ive ever met is a blues fan, but I wouldn't let that put me off listening to Robert Johnson and Elmore James.
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is it worse than Turbo-folk?
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I'd be able to pay more attention to the various emotional and expressive ranges of blues singers if constantly strumming I-IV-V weren't so fucking boring.

plz leave trolling to the professionals

I think the thing that annoys metal fans the most is the proliferation of the VH1 definition of metal, i.e. that every metal band sounds like Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Motley Crue, or Slipknot. The genre has evolved far beyond those bands, even if there are still acts that sound like those.

Well, who knows, I might like Skip James then! I'm not saying it's impossible for me to like any blues song at all -- I kind of like Muddy Waters's "Mannish Boy," for instance -- just that the vast majority of what I've heard hasn't struck much of a chord with me at all.

geirmc.

Oh man Geir hasn't even posted yet haha

there a lot of one-chord blues songs and songs that mess with the 12 bar form

Thinking oh let's say Howling Wolf and Charlie Patton are interchangeable because most of their songs have similar chord progressions = baffling to me.

I just voted "rock" with the small "r." sleeper option of the year

If psych-folk/freak-folk/"new" "weird" "america" was an option, I'd vote for that in a heartbeat. Which is one heartbeat's more exertion than I've ever heard on any of those goddamn "draggy hipster listlessness is really underrated" records. And the live performances of those bands are beyond insulting. They treat slouching like it's the new breakdancing.

Thinking oh let's say Howling Wolf The Strokes and Charlie Patton Tom Petty are not interchangeable because since most of their songs have similar chord progressions = baffling to me.

Sorry, I swear this isn't some Geir-ish overarching principle I have about what good music should sound like or whatever. I just tend to find a lot of blues fairly boring, and I'm guessing that it's because the 12-bar form is no longer musically interesting to me anymore. Also, if a song is going to use 7th chords throughout, I'd much rather them be major 7ths instead of dominant 7ths -- but again, that's just me.

Anyway I am voting for opera, because even though I don't hate it, it's definitely a genre from this list I am the least interested in.

I think I'm torn between opera and the latter option. I haven't heard much opera I like yet but maybe there's something I'd like. The singing is so off putting though.

"snipe"

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Sorry too, wasn't getting at you- there's no imperative to like the blues, just because a lot of the music folk like here owes a lot to it; and the idea that you have to like stuff just because its worthy or something is silly; point I was making is that stuff sounding 'all the same' is a matter of perspective......

I expected this thread to be full of indie hate.

By people whos cd collections are 50%+ indie

I'm not saying it's impossible for me to like any blues song at all -- I kind of like Muddy Waters's "Mannish Boy," for instance

one thing I have never found anything I like about it.
Nessun Dorma aside.

gawd

Well, my record collection is 0% indie, but some of the indie tunes my friends have played to me have been nice, so I have to rate it above metal.

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Folk.
Because music is its second purpose.

Is Mrs. Miller a genre?

I don't like music that I could make better myself.

Is Mrs. Miller a genre?

She should be! I love that genre!

Operametal is the worst

http://www.nuclearblastusa.com/nb/images/band/181/lowres/bandimage/TherionPhoto.jpghttp://elproyectomatriz.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/nightwish.jpg

Worse than nu-metal?
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I have to say I don't like opera metal either. But you fear the wrath of Jeff if you say that.

I think the vaguely spooky oldtimey Skip James/John Hurt/Leadbelly stuff is instantly loveable myself but I used to have no use for like, all of the electric blues-qua-blues that I ever heard and Albert King/Stax has very recently served as a gateway into that fwiw. I think it's the distinctiveness and menace to his arrangements and guitar timbre on the 60's stuff forced me to 'get it' all of a sudden but I haven't pierced the armor too much further. I've had some BB King solos grab me in the nuts too but his discography is kind of daunting, it might have to wait. I voted the PC option with some conviction. if it got broken down to sweep in grunge or nu-metal or something we would def. be in business.

I went ahead and voted for the last one, since I think I can find something to enjoy in almost every genre.

I think "which genre of music's fans do you hate the most??" would be a far easier question to answer, especially given so many of the reactions on the "maligned metal" thread.

You mean you would vote metal fans?

I expected this thread to be full of indie hate.

-- Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, January 2, 2008 10:22 PM (58 minutes ago)

I am mostly full of indie hate, but I'd be a liar if I tried to claim I didn't own and enjoy some indie music. Same with reggae, dance, etc., I guess.

You mean you would vote metal fans?

-- Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, January 2, 2008 11:23 PM (57 seconds ago)

No, being a metal fan myself, I'd vote indie fans!

I don't think all the hate on there is from indie fans though!

Plenty of the metal love is from indie fans

I hate hipster indie kids, is all.

i haven't paid attention to nu-metal since 2002 but i liked some of it

My point was that I think it's easier for people (at least ILM'ers) to identify what constituency of music fans they dislike the most than it is to identify what music they hate the most, as it's likely that ILM'ers are probably more well-rounded musically than most.

I liked that one song.. "SEEEING RED AGAAAAAAIN! SEEING RED AGAAAAAAAAIN"

Above is outlined the reason I was uneasy with voting for anyone. There's such variation even within 'Blues' that even the stuff I've heard is only a small part of a much larger and stranger collection of personalities and artistic visions.

Type of fans I hate the most: that cunt I radio-trained who clearly got all his opinions from the NME and lauded Babyshambles and The Arctic Monkeys as the best artists of 2007. With his stupid lanky indie-hair and his oh-so-trendy clothing.

Lack of nu-r&b means I have to vote for country.

I don't think anybody fears my wrath, but Opera metal rules. That is all.

I'm more or less dreading the day when your wrath is turned against me, actually.

I keep reading it as "Oprah metal"

Someone needs to Photoshop Oprah's face over the guy from Immortal.

Blowing fire?

frogmanoprah.jpg

oprah mental

Hows Nightwish doing without Tarja? Maybe Oprah could take over.

Hip-hop, closely followed by metal. I possibly hate so-called "contemporary R&B" even more, but couldn't go for soul as there has been a lot of great soul in the past.

closely followed by metal.

found an old thread on the same subject What genre of music can you not tolerate?

i can't tolerate Hongrotronics.

haha I didn't realise Geir said this until I posted the above
What genre of music can you not tolerate?

vintage dj martian on that thread

Still hate emo, steve?

i don't even know what it is anymore (not that i did then either)

Revive any old thread and there's usually a vintage DJ Martian or Alex In NYC post

true, if it's from 2001 it goes without saying

Reggae

zenophobe

And of course there was Robin Carmody posts back then too
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no one has said pop yet. Maybe that will get the lurker vote?

I thought you liked some Van Halen and Def Leppard?

I also like some G-funk.

Geir-funk

No james brown samples though

Rampant homophobia, skits, and way too much filler per album win this one for hip-hop for me.

hey, Easy Listening is full of queer-bashers too

it doesnt have skits though

I don't even know what easy listening is anymore.

Is Celine Dion easy listening or AOR?

Adult Contemporary

Which is probably a subgenre of AOR.

Or soft rock.

or shite

If Britpop had been an option who would've voted for it?

*clenches teeth* britpop wasn't a genre

Madchester

try telling that to the nme/radio 1
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Britpop is absolutely a genre, and I would have voted for it. Could also have gone with emo, probably. Or, yeah, indie if no alternative was attached. Maybe also nu-metal. (Though every one of those has a handful of records I like in them.)

Now? Fuck it...sorry, Opera.

opera rules

It probably does! I just don't like it much.

I could also have gone for death-metal or grindcore if they were standalones, probably. But as a whole, metal is one of my favorite genres in the universe.

Haha I was mostly talking out my ass, I've seen/heard maybe 4 operas EVER.

Actually, I like opera parts when they stick them on pop or metal or disco records a lot! I just have too short an attention-span for the real stuff.

And yeah, I read "easy listening" (which I don't like hardly at all in most of its early-LP-era incarnations) as "adult contemporary" (which I can be really great), so I didn't vote for that one.

Easy listening should be easy to listen to. This is what I don't understand.

had EMO been on the list, it would have killed.

what's the difference between indie and alternative?

about 300,000 albums sold.

*rimshot*

i love opera. i like everything up there. i would have voted for zydeco. or maybe polka. as it is, i won't vote for anything.

and it's not like i HATE zydeco or polka. just have absolutely no desire to listen to any of it. and i like pierogies. and gumbo.

ohhh yeah zydeco, man alive what a racket.

what's the difference between indie and alternative?

-- omar little, Thursday, 3 January 2008 13:31 (1 minute ago)

Indie is on independent labels. Alternative is when the idiot bogans at HMV have never heard of Radiohead but need to put it somewhere.

Christian death metal.

seriously, I had this Christian death metal comp once that had bands with names like the following:

Faithbomb
Corpse
Dead Pharisees
Covenant (gee, like the electronic group and the metal band)
S.O.G. (seriously now....do you think nobody knows what name you're lampooning).

it was the shittiest thing I ever heard in my life.

i would have voted for zydeco. or maybe polka

Scott, you are so crazy!!!! (Zydeco and Polka are better than most of the genres up there, sometimes! Especially when they happen at the same time!)

So is Bogan Rock (= Rose Tattoo, Angel City, and um maybe Cold Chisel who I have never actually heard.)

I might actually have voted for Gospel if it was up there (though I used to have Mighty Clouds of Joy and Swan Silvertones albums I liked a lot. And "Oh Happy Day" by the Edwin Hawkins Singers is good.)

Common all Christian death metal doesn't suck.

Ever heard Believer?

Symphonic death metal with lyrics that are literally all bible verses.

Its fucked up how good they were.

Er, c'mon.

And Living Sacrifice are actually pretty creepy for some reason.

maybe Cold Chisel who I have never actually heard

Would you like to swap brains?

To be clear, I was specifically bashing that Christian death metal album.

there are Christian albums I like even though I'm extremely non-religious...like Precious Death's Southpaw, for one.

I came out of that scene, in my teens, and yes you are right the good stuff was outweighed by horrific shit like POD.

But if I can listen to militant Rastafarian music, or Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan with an open mind I can do the same with Christian music.

I voted for Modern Country by the way, I'm subjected to that shit on a regular basis.

After a hard day at work being forced to listen to Carrie Underwood on repeat I feel the need to go home and listen to Kris Kristofferson and Emmylou Harris just to balance myself out.

christian death metal? It would be impossible to do a poll on most hated metal sub-genre as it would be impossible to list each one. Wikipedia article is horribly incomplete http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_subgenres

I wasn't so much proclaiming it to be my least favorite subgenre as much as commenting on it.

as I said earlier, I can't really completely dismiss any genre...

Chuck would you really pick death metal or grindcore over nu-metal?

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have you heard christian black metal? (it does exist, honest)

hahah except they call it "unblack" metal (seriously)...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unblack_metal

I haven't heard much other than Narnia, who I'm not sure if they qualify...

I see my memory is horrible as Narnia are power metal. so no I haven't heard any!

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Fair enough, I feel perfectly comfortable writing off things I annoying by over exposure. If I had to listen to something other than super conservative Country I'd probably pick Smooth Jazz or something.

I had an interesting year where competing bosses would either play Kenny G or Slayer. It made for an interesting work environment.

I thought it got called White Metal. Oh no a schism between peoples republic of christian black metal bands already!
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Britpop is absolutely a genre

A subgenre, I would say (of pop, not of indie)

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I find annoying, can't type tonight.

I'm sure Varg's blood would boil at the thought of Christian black-metal. I wonder if Norsk has enough curse words for the concept.

Oh, I can see some bald fans with curious tattoos arriving at a "White Metal" concert only to be sorely disappointed....

hahaha

The terms "unblack metal" and "Christian black metal" divide opinions in both Christian and non-Christian metal scenes: some Christian metal fans find "unblack metal" to be a ridiculous pseudogenre, while other see it as less contradictory and therefore more appropriate than "Christian black metal". The term "unblack metal" is especially prefered by fans of groups that play musically a more old school oriented type of black metal. It is notable that the term "unblack metal" is mostly associated with groups whose music is characterized by raw sound production, and is used by some of the artists and fans based prominently in United States and Brazil. Several groups in Europe such as the Polish bands Elgibbor and Abdijah tend to use it too but very few fans and groups in Northern Europe have accepted it. For example, Antestor prefered to call their music "sorrow metal" instead, and the Swedish groups Crimson Moonlight and Admonish, who represent more polished sound production in their music, are known to label their music themselves simply as "black metal".

Chuck would you really pick death metal or grindcore over nu-metal?

I didn't say that...but, um, possibly.

I'd also take Carrie Underwood over Kris Kristofferson (well, his singing or lack thereof, anyway -- I'll read his words anyday) or Emmylou Harris, but hey, that's just me.

And there is nothing "pop" about most Brit-pop I've heard. (I'm not even sure what I mean by that, but I believe it anyway.)

Britpop is retro 60s style pop. Until it becomes dad-rock (which is far worse than britpop ever was)

ska punk, r.i.p.

Now that may have got my vote. I like ska and punk on its own but ska-punk = vile.
No ones mentioned Jam Bands yet.

Britpop is retro 60s style pop

...That sounds about as much like '60s pop as ska-punk sounds like '60s ska, but whatever.

Chuck, the way Top 40 Country is presented (at least in my area) is just so poisonous its impossible to really take on its own.

It basically amounts to constant pro-war lobbying by Clear Channel.

I'll be first to admit that Carrie Underwood has talent, hell most of the music I hear is tolerable.

To me its just too much propaganda, not enough music to make it worthwhile.

xp And some of my favorite music has been called "Dad Rock" (though possibly not by British people who don't know how to spell "Bob Seger").

Siah, you should read (and contribute) to these threads. I'm serious. I'm not sure where your country station is, but I mostly listen to modern country disconnected from the radio (and the radio stations I occasionally hear it on haven't done the vehement pro-war thing in any way I've noticed.) It would be interesting to hear your thoughts about what people are saying on these threads, either way:

Rolling Country 2008 Thread

Rolling country 2007 thread

I'll give it some thought.

I've got a couple of shelves full of country rock and Johnny Cash/Hank Williams LPs.

I think I like some modern country quite a bit, but have yet to find most of it.

I like a lot of Randy Travis I've heard but that's about as late period as I've gotten. I can't tell if that means I'm making peace with modern country arrangements(if he's even considered modern in the toby keith sense?) or if he's just doing a great job evoking what I like about the old stuff. great voices hold sway over me in country much more than is the case in other genres.

at any rate, i'm still smarting from the great big & rich hoax of 2004, xthanxk for nothing ;)

Check out a Texas band called the Fluffers Union.

To me they sound like what Big and Rich could have been.

I still haven't heard Big & Rich but I do keep seeing people chastising chuck for making them buy their album

lol

the last option for me, but since it's not as fun as hating; i picked "easy listening".

(hides baker street and broken wings mp3s)

As precious as it sounds, I am a believer in the last option. Genres aren't really the problem. Saturation (and low standards) is the problem.

And there is nothing "pop" about most Brit-pop I've heard.

It is classic pop, in a Beatles-way, not in the way of today's "pop", which is R&B or just plain and simple unmusical crap.

"Classic"

modern in the toby keith sense?....great voices hold sway over me in country

Fwiw, Toby Keith is a great country voice, especially when he sings slower, jazzier songs (and he's a lot less dull than Randy Travis about it), but whatever. You also might want to consider checking out Gary Allan, though his most recent album is frequently a snooze. (The unison harmonies throughout the first and best Big N Rich album were great too, but if you weren't convinced, your loss.)

That "your loss" sounded snottier than I meant it to, sorry. At any rate, nope, "new country" does not usually sound like "old country"; that's true. But I'm still not sure what genre you'd go to for better voices these days. (Another great one: John Anderson, who has been one of the world's best singers since the early '80s, even before Randy Travis came along; he made a good comeback in '07.)

what genre you'd go to for better voices these days

R&B, maybe. But I have the same problems with most modern r&b that lots of people here seem to have with modern country (which makes me a hypocrite, maybe, except a lot of my problems with modern r&b are about the voices, which tend to seem really reigned-in to me when they're not going the melisma route. Though, sure there are exceptions.)

Jon Anderson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Anderson

Angry Anderson

This thread is ILM's nadir.

Check out a Texas band called the Fluffers Union.
To me they sound like what Big and Rich could have been

Just checked them out all over youtube -- Daniel Johnston cover; Neil Young cover; lots of drowsy originals. Mumbly indie-folk-rock, as far as I could tell: made me think of Dinosaur Jr., with even less energy and not nearly as interesting guitar parts. Don't get the B&R comparison at all, though maybe they have better stuff somewhere else; who knows. (Fluffersunion.com doesn't seem to be working.)

Probably don't want to google that name.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/1/187824840_43c92da08e_o.jpg

beatles not looking so good these days.

i hate all genres, the entire thing is stupid

it's either good music or bad music!

Except when Geir says it's not music!

Folk, I knew I had missed something.

Probably don't want to google that name.

Feel bad about my Blues vote now. Consider a meta-vote chalked up for AOR or something. Honestly if there was an option for 'genre' I'd have gone in all guns blazing.

If only you had britpop to vote for

There are some great easy listening songs.. I just cant think of any. I picked metal. I hate that crappy genre. But country sucks too. I just think there might be an exception for country while I can't think of any good exceptions for metal except the early incarnations (some iron maiden, metallica, and black sabbath). It's a battle between which annoys me more and I think most metal is the most annoying in general.

nothing wrong with power pop though.. so some brit pop isn't so bad.

Metal will not run away with this poll. In fact, I'll be astonished if it gets more than 3 votes.

-- Just got offed, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 18:10 (Yesterday)

It's a battle between which annoys me more

and captain lorax is winning

I voted blues, because blues is sad people music.

racist

I feel the presence of a metal fan. (or maybe its the ____)

Free-form jazz

I voted blues, because blues is sad people music.

It's to blame for emo?

Smiling is an emotion!

I wish there was an emo emoticon.

modern in the toby keith sense?....great voices hold sway over me in country

Fwiw, Toby Keith is a great country voice, especially when he sings slower, jazzier songs

I don't have much of an opinion on Toby Keith either way, I've heard other says the same thing and I've just been gunshy/lazy about investigating. To be clearer, I just notice that the "i-could-listen-to-him/her-read-the-phonebook" syndrome happens more often with country, but it's not automatic by any means (I just sold back an atrocious mid-60's Faron Young compilation in a huff; certainly didn't see that coming). I can't fault you for finding Randy Travis dull, I think I like him most for taking a little after Don Williams who, at his best, renders charges of dullness(which I'll euphemize into "placidity") kind of moot.

Wait, who is "HI DEAR"?

i stumbled across toby keith singing a slow tune on a late-night show last year (probably something from the 'broken bridges' soundtrack) and it wasn't half-bad.

I assumed HI DEAR was Dan

I love how "rock" is the only genre that doesn't start with an upper case letter!

I wish there was an emo emoticon.

//_<

X-post to Chuck again.

The album I'm basing that comparison off doesn't seem to be able available online anymore.

Let me check and see if I can find it.

Its got lines like "The sun came up in a pimped out truck today," today.

Slacker country almost.

But they were in the same scene as the Gourds, so some of those criticisms may well apply.

God, I can't eat and type at the same time.

Dan is "HI DERE", not "HI DEAR"

http://www.mediafire.com/?dz22cojgm2j

I don't know why, but they remind me of a scuzzy low rent Big + Rich.

Which I think I like more than the real thing for some reason.

i'm going for post-punk cos supposedly most of those crappy nme touted indie bands from the last 10 years sport a 'post punk' influence. no thanks.

<i>No point in doing a metal sub genre poll as Nu-Metal would walk it.
-- Herman G. Neuname, </i>
Mmmhmm. Tho metal is one of my favorite genres - I've got 5 W.A.S.P. albums, for inst. - there's probably more of it I really dislike as opposed to say, Opera, which I just don't have teh means to appreciate.
Still thinking on this.

i dont hate any genre menyioned here but i never listen to classical. dont tell me to check it out or say its my loss, i am just not interested in it.

opera or jazz, if i'm honest. i have too many memories of kenny rogers and kris kristofferson tapes to do the decent thing.

Opera, if you twisted my arm

Kenny Rogers has a couple of tunes that I like. Same with Kris Kristofferson.

The Gambler was great at least

point me to a kris kristofferson thread someone, we'll talk bout some real music.

Kris Kristofferson: C/D?

I wonder what is cheesiest, power metal or happy hardcore? If one of those were on the list it would definitely get my vote.

Actually happy hardcore is worse than power or nu-metal.

I'm looking forward to seeing what gets the most votes between 2Anything with guitars in it" and "I don't hate any genres of music. There's something of worth in each one."

Happy hardcore is obviously one of the greatest genres: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRhTJ4hnpLo

Fairgrounds must've been shit before Happy Hardcore.

I don't see anything I want to vote for. I'm probably a bit ultra-specific, I'd go for "the wankier end of IDM", "grindie", "that which passes for indie rock these days", maybe.

Fairgrounds must be even shittier now then

Awww come on ya curmudgeon, Waltzers + Dry Ice + Helium-vocalled 200 BPM Neil Diamond covers = awesome beyond belief.

That does sound awesome, I must admit. Starting to feel sick and giddy just as the snare rush hits.

You wouldn't even need to get on the waltzer to feel sick.

Speed Garage pitched up a little works really well too.

Last fairground I went to they were playing 'Searching For My Rizla' by Ratpack on the waltzer - fucking amazing. I hate waltzers though.

POX waltzer tunes

Jim tell me the waltzer tunes!

1. Unidentified Happy Hardcore Act - "Sing, Sing a Song"
2. Double 99 - "Ripgroove"
3. Prodigy - "Out of Space"
4. Fat Controller - "In Complete Darkness"
5. Oxide & Neutrino - "No Good 4 Me"
6. Sy & Unknown - "Hardcore Ride"
7. Daniel Bedingfield - "Gotta Get Through This"
8. E Logic - "Run to Me"
9. Ganja Kru - "Super Sharp Shooter"
10. Fade & FX - "Heaven"

Well I always liked that Prodigy tune at least.

Reggaeton should have been an option.

"Anything with guitars in it" would include most soul and R&B from before the 90s, wouldn't it?

I think the implication is "anything dominated by guitars". I don't think a funky house tune with a tasteful jazz guitar solo in it would count, for example.

Even though there are horns and organs in addition, most classic Sly & The Family Stone albums are definitely dominated by guitars.

Yeah, that's why that option is going to get so many votes, obviously ilxors don't like guitars on Sly & The Family Stone albums.

AOR FTW

Ahead of Easy Listening? Naaaahhhhh

Reggaeton should have been an option.

-- Matt Armstrong, Sunday, January 6, 2008 1:22 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Link

Reggaeton is 10x great, you dip.

Punk, by a mile.

Someones going to vote prog in a minute just to counter.

Prog-punk > prog and punk, separately

No one admitting to voting hip hop?

No R'nB?

Then Geir would go on about 60s R'nB bands having guitars and how much better it is than modern R'nB.

Not that he doesn't anyway.

I did vote Blues, but AOR, Punk and Country are probably just as if not more deserving. These three are the genres at which you'll probably find the most creative stagnation, the closest adherence to 'genre' itself, sucking the dick that fucks you.

Louis hasn't heard the minutemen

Whenever I see "DNOTD" in a record-store it's always 17 quid or whatever. Might get it off Amazon. Isn't that less punk more hard-rock song-form experimentation?

No.

Reggaeton should have been an option.

-- Matt Armstrong, Sunday, January 6, 2008 1:22 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Link

Reggaeton is 10x great, you dip.

-- The Reverend, Monday, 7 January 2008 02:38 (16 hours ago) Bookmark Link

What is reggaeton?

Isn't that less punk more hard-rock song-form experimentation?

-- Just got offed, Monday, January 7, 2008 5:29 PM (2 hours ago)

I think you're thinking of "Project mersh"

What genre does this come under?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4kBcm-ls8Y

MC Charlie Boy

I voted hip-hop!

No category for Japanese Hip Hop huh?

No drum'n'bass? :'-(

Funny! As I mentioned up thread when Dom made the exact same joke -- I like a lot of Japanese music. Not the hip hop, since I'm generally not a fan of that genre anyway, but they do a lot of cool stuff that you don't get in Western music. I'm actually a big fan of Japanese culture. My comments on the other thread were entirely satirical, which is my sense of humor (even if it isn't always funny).

Lots of awesome japanese music.

Whats your favourite? I just got the new Julian Cope "japrocksampler" book actually.

Big fan of Mad Capsule Markets, actually. Also a lot of Yoko Kanno's soundtrack compositions. And Boris, of course.

You like Ghost?

Haven't heard them, but I liked the record Kurihara did with Boris, and he was really good with them live, so I've been curious to check them out. I feel like we may be hijacking this thread, though.

yeah cant talk about liking stuff on this thread!

I know hip hop and pop will get votes on this poll but no ones admitting it.
Wonder if "rock" will get a vote.

No one has said jazz either

Bruce: Wow. One thing I hear a lot is, people say, "Bruce, what's this with you and Jazz? What's the beef with you and Jazz music?"

I say, "Well, I really hate Jazz."

They say, "What do you hate about poor old Jazz?"

I say, "The sound. The sound that Jazz instruments make when they're being manipulated by Jazz players to the delight of Jazz respondents. I think of it as musical barf."

They say, "I don't think you've given Jazz a chance."

Well, I maintain, I haven't given suicide a chance, but. . .Well, I did give suicide a chance, but that was only because I was threatened with Jazz. You know. Jazz music.

One thing I hate--One thing I hate is being woken up in the middle of the night, when I'm dreaming about, say, promiscuity with dignity [Man off camera "All right."], by a rap-tap-tappin' on my window by those guys with goatee things on their faces, saying, "Hey. Can we come in? Beano's clarinet's gettin' wet." And then they go into this sorta Gene Krupa trance. Jazz schmazz. I'm sorry; I've got to go that far. Jazz schmazz.

You know what? I'd like to declare this a Jazz-free zone, about forty miles as far as the Jazz-hatin' crow flies in any direction. Just paradise. Those guys would go to work, and it wouldn't be there.

I'm gonna ask a question. What sort of music do you think there is in hell? You know, H-E-double hockey sticks? Well, I think it's probably hateful, free-form Jazz. And in heaven? Country and Western music. The choice is pretty obvious. It's not Jazz. It's not bop-a-dop bop-be-bop-bo Jazz. [to flutist:] What's that? A recorder or something? I'm not into it. Fuzz pedal, that's what I'm into. You know?

No category for Japanese Hip Hop huh?

Noodle Vague, Monday, 7 January 2008 21:03 (2 hours ago) Link

Though I'm not a big fan of hip hop/rap in general, a lot of Japanese hip hop artists like Nujabes, Tsutchie, Force of Nature, DJ Mitsu the Beats, and Grooveman Spot {aka DJ Kuo G} make some really amazing music.

As to the original question, I'm not into any genre at all really. After the few standouts in a particular style I tend to just move on.

Still working on opera though.

To be honest, my knowledge of Japanese hip-hop pretty much consists of songs from anime and Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift, most of which is, as Alex in NYC would say, all indefensible shit. But Japanese hip-hop is probably the same as any genre in any country -- some great stuff, lots of total crap.

I haven't heard the fast and the furious sondtrack. Outside of Prefuse 73, Digable Planets, and Newcleus - Samurai Champloo was pretty much my gateway to most of the hip hop I listen to now.

The studio that did Champloo really knows how to put together great soundtracks. I mean, Cowboy Bebop had phenomenal music in a ton of different genres.

Yeah, Shinichirō Watanabe is a genius in the art of creating a unique synthesis of (usually diparate) musical and visual concepts. The jazz soundtrack of Cowboy Bebop's Sci-Fi bountyhunter world and the hip hop soundtrack of Champloo's historical samurai setting worked well in setting those shows apart and making them memorable.

Yeah, I totally agree. I think that's one of the reasons I like the show Firefly so much -- the spaghetti Western music over the futuristic sci-fi stuff worked really well.

But I'm definitely going to check out the artists you mentioned above. I'm guessing the Japanese hip-hop I've been exposed to is not exactly a sterling example of the genre.

One of my favourite bands is Japanese. A band called Corrupted

Jordan what was that a quote from?

What a strange derailment into a chat about japanese hip hop. That must be a first even for ILM.

But please carry on

I voted jazz.

but isn't late Ae just FREE JAZZ MADE MY MACHINES?

(BY machines)

NO. There are only really two ae tracks that rub me up the wrong way in a bad jazz stylee and they're both pretty early. ("Lowride" and... I forget the other one.)

Gantz Graf is totally free-jazz

Lowride = hey i think i'll go listen to 'DJ Premier In Deep Concentration' now

Steve are you trying to tell us here of your dislike of jazz?

95 ilxors like AOR!

Then Geir would go on about 60s R'nB bands having guitars and how much better it is than modern R'nB.

The only reason why 60s R&B (Atlantic/Stax, that is. I count Motown as soul/pop, not R&B) is slightly better than current R&B is that it had slightly more tunes, and a less minimalist approach to production. And, yes, the beats were more steady and less staccato and annoying.

The only reason why 60s R&B (Atlantic/Stax, that is. I count Motown as soul/pop, not R&B) is slightly better than current R&B is that it had slightly more tunes, and a less minimalist approach to production.

Not a fan of modern day production then?

It could be worse, everyone could sound like Coldplay.

bump

dave ling, you're new here, aren't you?

Indie ftw

or opera

What will be the least hated so by default ILXors favourite genre? Easy Listening?

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

classical and soul, the most popular genres on ILM!

Go figure, the two most popular choices have the most vocal fans!

Anything with guitars in it 34

this is more about hating an instrument than a genre tho, right?

either way I don't get it

its kinda sad that the 2nd most hated "genre" of music on a board called "I Love Music" includes a huge range of genres (jazz, country, reggae, metal, rock, AOR, punk, blues, easy listening, some hip hop, etc. - why not just say you hate music)

why not just ignore stupid shit like this threadid=60837

"Anything with guitars in it 34"

Bonkers!

Noise board shenanigans?

I really shouldn't have clicked on this thread - the mountain of ignorance on display is kinda staggering

34 lil lex's

the lex only dislikes boys with guitars

And Jews.

its kinda sad that the 2nd most hated "genre" of music on a board called "I Love Music" includes a huge range of genres (jazz, country, reggae, metal, rock, AOR, punk, blues, easy listening, some hip hop, etc. - why not just say you hate music)

BECAUSE THEY MEANT "I HATE SHITTIE INDIE LOL"

I'm willing to bet that nobody who voted "Anything with guitars in it" meant Django Reinhardt. Also willing to bet that Lex didn't register 33 sock puppets. On account of not knowing that many different words.

I knew metal would get loads of votes.

So we hate everything except classical and soul. Good to know these things.

and only 2 people hate 'pop'

ridiculous turnout

Only 4 for Jazz?!?!?

Johnny and 3 other dudes.

With Metal being so high up on this poll, I find it obnoxious that metalheads aren't rated higher on that other poll. (Metal is so unlistenable to me - at least the songs with yelling or a really low voice.. practically all of them)

At least there are 15 sane people here.

and only 2 people hate 'pop'

This is ILM after all. And pop is so much. While I hate current manufactured mainstream pop, I still consider myself very much a pop fan rather than a rock one, only I am speaking of the classic McCartney-esque form of pop rather than whatever is popular right now.

At least there are 15 sane people here.

yeah, ban that bigoted Easy Listening noize

Punk 6
Progressive Rock 4

Take that spirit of '76

BECAUSE THEY MEANT "I HATE SHITTIE INDIE LOL"

well then they should've voted for indie qed

http://www.gamerevolution.com/oldsite/games/ps2/action/incredible_hulk_ultimate_destruction_strong.jpg

jesus fucking christ this poll

Isn't hating hip-hop tantamount to racism?

What is hating metal and indie then?

self-loathing

Metal and Indie are kind of sub-divisions of rock, it seems like. Hip-hop is entirely different genre.

^let's keep an eye on this one

Has dom done a ban super subway comedian thread yet?

and the roflz keep comin

x-post

Wow. Hivemind much?

not hivemind, just ilx is predictable

Geirbot will be along soon on the subject of hip-hop and metal.

When I first started hanging around ILM, I was more than a bit intimidated.

This poll's results makes me wonder what I ever was timid about in the first place.

words of wisdom from "peepee"

Guitars? Yeah, not a fan. I'm going to see this guy next week, sits on stage with a fuckin laptop, us kids love that shit.

i think that you will add a much needed voice to this board mr super subway comedian

Unfortunately, it's max r's.

Anything with guitars in it 34
Metal 26
Indie/Alternative 26

lolololololololololol gg

don't forget:
Country 9
Punk 6
Blues 6
rock 6
AOR 5
Post-Punk 5
Progressive Rock 4

A total of 127 anti-guitar votes

I Love MusicI Love Synthesizers and Drum Machines and Laptops None of That Stringed Instrument Shit Plz lolz

Only 4 for Jazz?!?!?

-- Tom D., Thursday, 17 January 2008 12:16 (7 hours ago) Link

Johnny and 3 other dudes.

-- onimo, Thursday, 17 January 2008 12:16 (7 hours ago) Link

Thank you for this.

You gotta commend him for being so quick.

"I don't hate any genres of music. There's something of worth in each one. "

LIAR!

"Johnny and 3 other dudes."

=

Grinningest moment today. Awesome.

makes the whole thing worthwhile

37 people who like some dadrock. Now good :)

heard some Dance music with guitars in it once

0 votes for classical and soul is a strange one. Usually people would complain about modern soul but then this is ILM.

Electronic/Industrial (but not dance stuff) 6
Kraftwerk or NIN haters?

Modern soul isn't called soul unless it's nu-soul.

Then will there be post-soul like what happened with metal/nu-metal?

Mariah Carey with Mogwai as her backing band.

math-soul's my bag

I seem to recall xhuck or Kogan dismissing Destiny's Child as "math-r&b".

I look forward to Death-Soul

but not grind-soul

Soulcore

goth soul

emo-soul

Xtian-Emo-Soul

Glad to see that Metal still tops this list!

Too drunk to be silent, can't stay on his feet
With a horrible language he crawls down the street
A pleasant condition, can't hold down the food
Fistful of vomits, he's now in the mood
When he starts tumbling and drops to the floor
It's the sign he awaits, he's got to drink more
Insulting the shorthaired, his arm starts to twist
Their nose bones receives the speed of the fist
He's dirty...he's alone...he's metal to the bone
HARDROCKER
The most incedent back at school, he always skipped the class
Told his teacher to fuck off and stick it up her ass
He'll never fit into the crowd, he'll never lose his pride
He won't allow no shorthaired heads, he would rather die
Shortcut hair in sight, no words are needed to start the fight
All discondance must end in broken bones
Enough to get him pissed, count the teeth you soon shall miss
Footprints in your swollen face shows the way it must be done
Criminaly tough and hard, headbanging where we lie
Whiplash-damage, aching neck, still banging till we die
We'll stand together to the end, ain't ever wimping out
We live and die the metal way, loud is all that counts

Let's ask Lemmy what he thinks
http://texaspunkjunk4.homestead.com/files/lemmy_motor.jpg

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So what's the hot nu-goth-soul band of the moment then?

Shakey, have you calmed down yet? ;)

Only 4 for Jazz?!?!?

-- Tom D., Thursday, 17 January 2008 12:16 (5 months ago) Bookmark Link

Johnny and 3 other dudes.

-- onimo, Thursday, 17 January 2008 12:16 (5 months ago

still makes me laugh

34 ILM'ers hate all genres apart from synthpop and electronica.

(And most classical)

And barbershop quartets

And that thing Hank Marvin did with, like, 20 bassists

and they love Lightning Bolt

The Ghost Of Dave Penis (Big Or Small)

34 ILM'ers were being completely honest and not facetious at all.

I think you're wrong Rev. 34 people read a PEW thread and voted accordingly.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090214142619AAoqg9a

http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/168174

http://www.unlimitedmusicdownloadsnow.com/what-genre-of-music-do-you-hate-the-most-and-tell-me-why-you-hate-it

http://www.blogcatalog.com/discuss/entry/which-music-genre-do-ya-hate-the-most

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Metal
how it started
person 1 how do we make a quick buck?
person 2 how bout we scream and call it music?
p1 ya and some1 can play the electricn gutair loudly and some1 can bang the drums !
p2 great idea

Obviously someone from this thread!

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By hasbeenkid96 on Jul 29, 2009 | Reply

Electronic!!!! It’s so weird and creepy!!!! Some EMO’S are acceptable like FallOutBoy and Killswitch Engage. I think I hate Electronic because it never has lyrics and whenever it does the people sound like robots. I used to like Michael Jackson music but I found out his was gay. LOL. I like rap a lot but I like rock more. I don’t criticize anybody for liking their kind of music though. I criticize people who are SUPER Hannah Montana fans and their older than 18 and I criticize people who like Electronic cuz it’s scary. Some Hannah songs are acceptable. I know less than 5 songs are cool. If you like Kingdom Hearts’ beggining songs you are awesome.

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By Summer G on Jul 29, 2009 | Reply

I like all types of music, but I would have to say "techno music" ewwwww. I’m not talking about a mix of pop and techno, its the extreme kind of techno in those gay drug filled clubs. I just hate the people who listen to it religiously: they don’t take showers, they admire those who do the hardcore drugs, and the way they dance is so annoying. They flop around like a fish out of water, while screaming " ECSTASY" at some dumb rave. WHAT A BUNCH OF DUMBASS’S!!!