The Nirvana albums poll

Voted "All Of Us" of course.

In Utero

Is the guy on the far right of the 60s Nirvana pic one their dads come to pick them up from a party? "Come on guys, let's go, you've said enough goodbyes."

Where is Incesticide, man?

Is the guy on the far right of the 60s Nirvana pic one their dads come to pick them up from a party?

It looks like the late William Rehnquist.

Nevermind easy.

I liked "In Utero" before he died, so ner.

Also, I knew the bassist in the first Nirvana.

If The Beatles had broken up in 1966, Paul McCartney's debut solo album probably would have sounded a bit like "The Story Of Simon Simopath".

I think it would've sounded exactly like the songs he wrote for the White Album.

Where is Incesticide, man?

-- Mark Rich@rdson, Sunday, January 6, 2008 10:25 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

^^

It would have sounded like half of Revolver.

Right, next question!

Also, I knew the bassist in the first Nirvana.

-- Mark G, Sunday, 6 January 2008 23:00 (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Actually, that's the first picture I've seen of the band. I think Chris is far right. He also sang lead on "The Lord" by the bee gees. OK, end.

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Where is MTV Unplugged? Or by the rivers of blahblahblahblah?

where we sat down?

I meant this thing
http://www.amazon.com/Muddy-Banks-Wishkah-Nirvana/dp/B000000OVZ/ref=pd_bbs_11?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1199700607&sr=8-11

Bleach, obv.

in utero

Overrated crap

zzz

I think it would've sounded exactly like the songs he wrote for the White Album.

You mean the songs he wrote for "Sgt. Pepper" sounded exactly like the ones he wrote for the White Album?

McCartney did release a solo album with material sounding largely like his White Album output. It's called "McCartney" and it was released in 1970.

Where is MTV Unplugged? Or by the rivers of blahblahblahblah?

Albums consisting only of new versions of pre-existing material don't belong here.

In Utero

Where is "To Markos 3", that's the best one

Is the guy on the far right of the 60s Nirvana pic one their dads come to pick them up from a party?

He's the singer!

The responses so far suggest that ILM isn't quite as contrary as it claims.

this is probably the worst thread of 2008 so far

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

whoa

Not contrary enough.

In Utero <<< Nevermind <<< Anything by UK Nirvana

daaaaaamn

lol

In Utero is my 2nd favorite album ever. I didn't vote. This thread is shit.

He's the singer!

Looks like Jarvis Cocker to me. I didn't know Jarvis Cocker used to be in (the first) Nirvana though :)

yay. In Utero won. I didn't vote because I don't own all of those.

I didn't know there were four members in the US Nirvana.

For about ten minutes, there was!

Wow, the photographer who snapped that pic must've been lucky to catch them during those ten minutes!

The pic is from 1989. Nirvana, at the time, consisted of Kurt Cobain, Krist Novoselic, Jason Everman and Chad Channing. Maybe not a very "representative" pic, but I didn't pay enough attention when picking it.

wow the right answer for once. and thensome.

The right answer would have been "All Of Us" or "The Story Of Simon Simopath". The right American answer remains "Nevermind". So wrong on all accounts.

if by "American" you mean "everyone in the world except Geir and the families of that earlier Nirvana" than yeah

Yeah Geir only americans voted In Utero..

2nd post

In Utero

-- Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 6 January 2008 21:53 (1 week ago)

Bleach is kinda becoming my favorite in my old age

I replayed all three of these for the first time since freshman year of college the other day... and they all hold up pretty well.

Bleach has a really strong Side A but kinda falls apart in the second half imo.

"Scoff" & "Swap Meet" are so good though.

http://elizabethtool.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/who-gives-a-shit-clock-wallace.jpg?w=434&h=434

^want

still never heard Bleach

if by "American" you mean "everyone in the world except Geir and the families of that earlier Nirvana" than yeah

You know, it is kind of cool how a family member of one 60s Nirvana guy actually went to ILX and voted in the poll. :)

Bleach is kinda becoming my favorite in my old age

― i love you but i've chosen markers (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:04 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

Bleach has a really strong Side A but kinda falls apart in the second half imo.

― more than ever convinced ilxor is a sock (ilxor), Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:15 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

Sounds very solid all the way through to me.

You know, it is kind of cool how a family member of one 60s Nirvana guy actually went to ILX and voted in the poll. :)

When? I don't see this...

Bleach is a really ugly album, in a good way

seek out "Floyd the Barber"

In Utero winning this poll in a runaway=LOL, too.

In Utero was my fave for years. I probably voted for it in this poll.

I don't think I've ever listened to Bleach all the way through, but In Utero is my favorite album of the 90s...

to me it's the least interesting of Nirvana studio albums. many solid tracks to be sure, but to me it doesn't have the passion or quality of prior recordings (including Incesticide)

(and yes I realize Incesticide isn't a studio album per se)

You've just described my opinion of Nevermind.

Nevermind was the best of both worlds, man. strong poppy hooks which Bleach lacked (though wasn't striving for), but plenty of 'noisy' riffs to keep the purists at bay.

also don't really think there's a bad track on Nevermind whereas there's quite a few I skip past on In Utero ("Dumb" and "All Apologies" being two of them).

To my my ears the songs on it are a lot more samey and formulaic than on their other records, and the production isn't scuzzy or messy enough for a band like Nirvana.

xpost - love both those tracks!

I also skip Dumb and All Apologies, but the rest of the album is so great that In Utero is still easily their best album

I guess I'll have to agree to disagree there. I don't think I ever played it more than three times. granted I'm not a huge Nirvana listener anymore, but even when I was Bleach, Incesticide, and Nevermind always got more listens from me.

i mean, when i was 13, all i listened to was Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains, Talking Heads, Red Hot Chili Pepz, Ramones, Primus, Breeders, Ministry, etc—and Nevermind was pretty much the center of this universe for me.

Now that I'm 30 and are more into Husker Du, Wipers, Melvins, Jesus Lizard, Throbbing Gristle, Swans, etc—Bleach just sounds more like a part of my world. Revisiting it recently was like seeing an old girlfriend that got super pretty. Also, I remember hearing it in a bar once with a fellow musician, and he turns to me and asks "Who's this covering Nirvana?" and I was like, "It's Nirvana." Because neither of us ever really noticed that Chad and Dale play double kick pedal all over this thing, which was pretty fucking gauche in 90s alt-rock.

Ugh, correction, 31... u_u

San Te are you one of those guys that thinks that In Utero is 'too mellow'?

Not really, I mean, Nevermind had "Polly", "On a Plain", and "Something in the Way", which I loved. Maybe 'too restrained', but even then, I mean, there's not a 'template' that I need to follow to enjoy Nirvana either.

the songwriting just didn't grab me as much. I would say "Milk It" is my favorite from the album, except that live versions have always been way better than the studio version.

the songwriting, and the lyrics esp., is I think In Utero's biggest strong point...

"Lounge Act" and "On a Plain" are the two Nevermind tracks I still find myself humming at odd moments.

just realised that nirvana's albums are mostly quite similar in my mind, in that there are a load of tracks which i remember how they go from the beginning to the end, and a bunch that I can only remember the name of. So Nevermind has Lithium, On A Plain, Polly, Teen Spirit, In Bloom, Territorial, Come As You Are etc, but also has Lounge Act and Drain You which I'm pretty fuzzy on. Same with In Utero, but even more - lots of great memorable tracks but I couldn't tell you how Very Ape or Milk It go. Plus I never liked Rape Me or Heart Shaped Box or Pennyroyal Tea that much - they seemed too slow and/or angsty. Not much fun.

These days the Nirvana album I'd reach for out of choice is Incesticide. Lots of fun and manages to show many different sides of Nirvana, from the poppy (Sliver, Molly's Lips), to the rocky (Aneurysm, Dive) to the plain noisy and bizarre (Hairspray Queen).

I love Lounge Act

Lounge Act and On a Plain are both fantastic, yeah.

And the last four tracks on Incesticide are all awesome in totally different ways.

Actually, Lounge Act is the one that goes "Bum da-da Dum da-da Dum Duh-Dum Da-da-da" so yeah, I know it. And Drain You is about babies. So I lied about Nevermind, but then I have had it in my music collection since the dinosaurs died out so I should remember these songs by now.

Aneurysm is the best Nirvana song too.

Does anyone else share my love for Aero Zeppelin?

xp Can't really listen much to the back half of Incesticide (aside from Aneurysm and Downer)(& Downer wz on Bleach)...surprising to me that you would dismiss Heart Shaped Box and Pennyroyal Tea as "not much fun" but then fuck with the likes of Aero Zeppelin and Big Long Now...

(xp to dog latin, LOL chap, no I think Aero Zeppelin is one of their worst songs...)

Heart Shaped Box was one of my favorites on Utero, I'll say that much

Lounge Act, Drain You, Milk It, and Very Ape are all def. Nirvana POX for me

(well maybe not Milk It, though I love that song something fierce)

Incesticide does have at least one of my favorite Nirvana songs of all time--Been a Son

"Verse Chorus Verse" would make my POX.

Tell you what I've only played one and a half times:

That Nirvana box with the nice metal shiny front. Lovely package, nice DVD, but hey.

Although their version of "Seasons in the Sun" will stay with me forever.

(I got it cheap in the closedown of the MusicBox in Bracknell)

"Verse Chorus Verse" would make my POX.

yeah this too...I'm beginning to doubt my ability to come up with a Nirvana POX

question for geir, who wrote the following to explain the absence of unplugged and from the muddy banks... on the poll:

Albums consisting only of new versions of pre-existing material don't belong here.

geir: does the way a song is performed/recorded matter at all for you? is there any chance whatsoever that the unplugged versions of, say, "about a girl" or "pennyroyal tea" are better than the original studio versions, or do you consider that to be automatically impossible? is the beatles' "revolution 1" automatically better than "revolution" because it was recorded first? or is it possible that they improved it when they re-recorded it? do you allow at all for that possibility? and if you do, do you also allow for that possibility with a live version? i'm genuinely curious as to your reasoning behind this.

LOCK THREAD!! QUICKLY!!!

but i really want to know!!! i'm having a curiosity morning!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_8cARQTlQn-M/TF-_iovF19I/AAAAAAAAAFw/pTbEw56bLrc/s1600/sinking_ship.jpg

sigh.

plz keep Geir-trolling confined to the Mozart thread plz

I think it's a valid and interesting question.

should I fly to Los Angeles

Tell you what I've only played one and a half times:

That Nirvana box with the nice metal shiny front. Lovely package, nice DVD, but hey.

Btw, I find that box sets like this one, that I'd otherwise never listen to completely start-to-finish more than once every 10 years, are tailor-made for "shuffle" mode -- I quite enjoy the occasional track!

the box set has some good stuff--my favourite is the cover of "Here She Comes Now"...

Geir has made it pretty clear in the past that live music doesn't matter to him at all, only perfected studio recordings.

"Verse Chorus Verse" would make my POX.

― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 15:26 (40 minutes ago) Bookmark

One of their best. I really like "Marigold", the Dave Grohl song too.

his criticism doesn't even make sense about Unplugged in that while they were oft re-recorded old Nirvana tunes there was a GAZILLION covers of material that they hadn't covered on wax prior to that night. I mean ffs!

also Unplugged was awesome

who gives a shit? Geir excluded Incesticide and the two live albums and included the two 60s Nirvana albums: he has a bit of the idiot in him.

i'm aware of geir's general feelings about live recordings. i asked the question because he broadens the exclusion here (and elsewhere) to "new versions of pre-existing material." which raises the question: does performance matter at all? does a great vocal performance matter? does great playing matter? or is the first recording, preferably by the composer, automatically better than all other recordings. period? i'm not looking for a titanic-channeling, ilx-sinking, world-ending thread. just a simple answer. really!

i am i, don quixote

does performance matter at all? does a great vocal performance matter? does great playing matter?

I think he just reads the sheet music.

the box set has some good stuff--my favourite is the cover of "Here She Comes Now"...

― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 15:06 (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I had the 7" version, back in the day. A very silly Melvins' cover of "Venus in Furs" on the other side.

I had a chance to buy some sort of weird Nirvana vinyl (7 or 10" ???) once, with the VU cover and the song Opinion and some other song on it, I can't remember which. Didn't have quite enough to do it, and am now haunted by it.

Never found it in any Nirvana discography; does anybody have any idea what the other song was? Was it super-rare or anything? Wd appreciate the feedback!!!1!!

http://www.discogs.com/Nirvana-Your-Opinion/release/641788

It's a bootleg, around $30 on popsike (record of recent ebay sales)

yeah that's the one. thanks!!!

Bleach is kinda becoming my favorite in my old age

it's the only album of theirs I genuinely enjoy listening to. the rest is like listening to Kurt loading shotgun shells

bleach = in utero > incesticide > nevermind > unplugged for me

i admit my placement of nevermind might have something to do with being absolutely inundated by it for the entirety of hs. anyway, don't sleep on incesticide imo

My order:

incesticide > with the lights out > in utero > bleach > nevermind > unplugged

I think Nirvana's non-album tracks are pretty remarkable, unexpectedly ass-kicking and often very strange.

it's so stupid that there's like official Nirvana b-sides that still have never seen a proper CD release. This band's catalog is totally fucking bungled

Yes, but think of the future marketing opportunities.

Is "Talk to Me" a cover? It sounds very familiar (in the same way that all nirvana songs sound familiar, even upon hearing it the first time) but otherwise doesn't sound at all like a nirvana song.

xp I tend to despise most Courtney Love trash-talk, but I think that this (handling Kurt's recorded output) is the one area where a legitimate claim could be made that she is a scourge on this earth.

I'd condense that to, "I tend to despise Courtney Love; she is a scourge on this earth."

is that rarities box set no good? i've never heard it.

the box set is great! lot of curiosities that are actually worth listening to repeatedly. check out this one, for example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFEF-bR1R_8

also check this out for being possibly the weirdest song in the Nirvana catalog-- but impossibly catchy too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sHEv0SmJhA

the video of them in a rumpus room practicing with some dude simulating a strobe light by flicking the light switch on and off is pretty charming.

is that Sliver?

I think "Dive" is still one of my favorite "non-regular studio album" track, followed closely by "I Hate Myself and Want to Die".

I think "Dive" is still one of my favorite "non-regular studio album" track, followed closely by "I Hate Myself and Want to Die".

Great tracks. One of my favorite non-album tracks is the split single they did with the Jesus Lizard, "Oh the Guilt."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD0KyxYQI60

you gotta admit, no one can scream like that these days

on Bleach Kurt screamed until his voice gave out. I remember my first few listens were painful for the whole "geezus that must hurt like hell" angle.

Dive, Oh the Guilt, and I Hate Myself are all excellent songs...Been a Son is totally my favorite 'non-regular studio album' track, but there were a lot of great ones...

One of my favorite non-album tracks is the split single they did with the Jesus Lizard, "Oh the Guilt."

I'm on board w/ this track ^^

Even in His Youth is pretty good too; not quite as good as Oh the Guilt or I Hate Myself or Verse Chorus Verse, but I still like it lots...

re: sliver/manual strobe light

i think it's this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGIUpIVvxtY

it looks straight out of Freaks & Geeks but with more mustaches.

Why did half-past-who-gives-a-shit have to show up right after I posted something? Fuck you.

And 85 new answers followed, so there's your answer.

I hate every Nirvana thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpj5vlwx6Ws

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4Zbmb2Agos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcf19K5QFqQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pEz9kMSczg

^^^ this other nirvana is weak sauce

new 77 keeping it positive meta thread to request dudes stop biting their own joeks

Why did half-past-who-gives-a-shit have to show up right after I posted something?

Ah bill, tbf I was just posting it to the thread and you happened to be stood there behind me.

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/nirvana-incesticide/

seek out "Floyd the Barber"

― melody-hating aggr0 nerd (San Te), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:38 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this guy gets it