Let's anticipate Lil Wayne, "The Carter III"

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1579291/20080108/lil_wayne.jhtml

Wayne says he's recorded so many songs for the album besides "Showtime" that he's not sure which ones will make the cut. Just about every hip-hop producer you can name contributed to Tha Carter III, including Timbaland, David Banner, Jay Bezel from the Diplomat camp, T-Mix, Mannie Fresh, Cool & Dre, Just Blaze and even Wayne himself.

"Me and my homeboy Diesel, we got a Kanye West track and added some drums to it," he said. "I don't know what songs [the record company] picked. I just know the intros and the single."

Doesn't instill a lot of confidence in me that the heralded #1 MC in the game with the most anticipated album of the year doesn't seem to know or care about the sequence or selection of songs on said album, and is just expecting some A&R at Universal to sift through the dozens (hundreds?) of potential songs and assemble the classic he's supposed to put out.

It's either gonna be huge, or a ginormous dud. I wonder if Weezy even cares what happens; my guess is no.

Lil Wayne - The Carter III

1. "Weezy (Interlude)"
2. "Still Can't Stop the Reign"
3. "D.I.V.A. Radio (Interlude)"
4. "It Was All a Dream" feat. Jay-Z and Young Jeezy
5. "No Love Lost" feat. Juelz Santana
6. "Strait Playin'" feat. DJ Quik
7. "Best to Worst"
8. "Legal Money" feat. Curren$y and DJ Khaled
9. "Edge of Night" feat. Bobby Brown
10. "S.H.E. (Interlude)"
11. "Let's Wait a While"
12. "Can I Play Gunz" feat. Birdman and Rick Ross
13. "Just Be Good to Me" feat. Kanye West
14. "More to Life" feat. Justin Timberlake
15. "Big Dog Stomp" feat. T.I. and Fat Joe
16. "Game of Death"
17. "Outtro (Interlude)" feat. Young Money
18. "Player" feat. Birdman
19. "Don't Wanna Be Alone"

where'd you find that?

I'm not convinced that's any more legit than the 20 tracklists leaked last year. It doesn't even have the single he just shot a video for. But then, this might as well be the rolling Carter III tracklist speculation thread.

the sad thing is that i wouldn't be surprised if that's a fake/spoof tracklist

"Can I Play Gunz" feat. Birdman

^^^ this title is just funny enough to be real

it'll either be popular, or not.

on that mtv clip he said he doesn't even get to decide what songs make the album that's "someone else's job"....

after all that crowing about being president of Cash Money, he doesn't have that much control? now i understand why guys like Jay-Z and Kanye these days only record 15 songs for an album and use 13 of them, it's probably the only way to control what's actually on it.

please let ethan have made all those up

xpost

yeah it was hard to tell, he was acting like a weirdo during the whole clip, it more seemed like he didn't care, like "someone else's job" like it's someone else's job to get his laundry done or drive him to the airport.

seems like a weird attitude for an album that's supposed to be a classic

yeah, that's what i'm saying!

Lil Wayne was named president of Cash Money Records and CEO of Young Money Entertainment, giving the rapper full creative control over all releases under the two labels.

Later in 2007, Lil Wayne decided to release himself from being president, giving Baby and Slim back the position so that he can focus further on his music, especially Tha Carter III.

so...he's all about full creative control...and focusing on the album...but he doesn't give a shit what songs are on the album...

lol j0hn http://www.amazon.com/Cant-Stop-Reign-Shaquille-ONeal/dp/B000001Y2X

haha

hahaha

ethan ftw

i love that there's a shaq "best of.."

omg at someone falling for another ethan fake tracklist

30% of the songs on the circulated leak tape were good

this is going to be really great. i'm not saying that just cuz im a wayne stan but all this out there shit that he does isnt going to make it on his albums. there's a reason why t-pain shit and shitty slow verses end uo on dj khaled remixes. the songs on the digital ep are pretty straight forward and great

btw this shit if classic already if the song that name drops juntao from rush hour makes it on the album

the cover leaked

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:Wy98k6pnZAzo1M:http://swarthoutfamily.org/Gladys/Gallery/svelte.jpg

how is this not photoshopped to zing me

http://www.vitaklenz.com/shop/images/Svelte1.jpg

why does a gis for svelte turn up so much vadge?

'svelte' is really approaching failed Dom meme status.

he'll respond soon as he can figure out what BIG SARG should be driving

aka the weendriver

"get svelte, look svelte" is a snap anthem in waiting

to the tune of Fix Up Look Sharp

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Lil Wayne is a tease. Even though he's spent the past couple of years flooding the market with mixtapes, he hasn't released a proper solo album since Tha Carter 2 in 2005. Tha Carter 3, his long-awaited follow-up, should've arrived months ago, but Wayne keeps pushing it back. He says he's keeping demand up by making us wait, while message-board gadflies speculate that he just isn't cut out to make a classic full-length album. Late in 2007, he said that he'd end the year with a compilation album called The Leak, clearing away all the best tracks that have trickled past the lax security at Cash Money's offices in preparation for the real thing. But The Leak never came; instead, we got a new solo album from Birdman, Wayne's shitty half-rapping father figure. And then, on Christmas, a new Lil Wayne EP hit online stores like iTunes and Amazon with zero fanfare, without even Wayne's face on the cover. The Leak EP is a meager offering: five songs, ranging in quality from absolute bangers to intriguing sketches, which tell us little about how The Carter 3 might eventually sound.

One of the common critical complaints against Wayne is that he can rap but that he doesn't know how to make songs. His weeded-out free-associative signature doesn't need to conform to old ideas about song structure to do its work; on last year's double-mixtape bonanza Da Drought 3, he mostly just followed his muse over every half-decent recent beat he could find, letting the overblown boasts and batshit similes flow freely. He'd sacrifice none of his demonic magnetism if he just kept rapping at that level forever. But by the end of the year, he appeared to be losing steam; on the November mixtape The Drought Is Over, he busied himself playing around obnoxiously with T-Pain's autotuner effects, and the actual rapping was, by Wayne's high standards, exhausted and uninspired. So it's oddly reassuring to hear Wayne deign to finish a few actual songs, complete with verses and choruses and intros and everything. And even if every song on The Leak finds Wayne sticking to his usual talking points, finding even more clever and circuitous ways to let us know how fly he is, his voice has more urgency and determination than he's shown in recent months. And even at his laziest, he's still riveting.

But first the great. Opener "I'm Me" starts with tinkling ominous piano and stray vocal samples from past Wayne hits ("Go DJ", "Fireman"). And when the titanically jittery drums kick in, the string of possessed one-liners that follows puts the song in the same league as those older ones. Some are perfectly succinct and elegantly constructed: "I know the game is crazy, it's more crazy than it's ever been/ I'm married to that crazy bitch, call me Kevin Federline." Some are borderline nonsensical: "I'm a monster, I tell you, monster Wayne/ I have just swallowed the key to the house of pain." But throughout, there's a strident sense of purpose in his gurgling croak of a voice, like he finally has something at stake. And the third track, "Gossip", brings that purpose into focus. The first time anyone heard it was when he did a fiery rendition of it at the BET Hip Hop Awards a few months ago, and it's rumored to be the response to 50 Cent's recent string of underhanded jabs against Wayne. Over the track's huge, epic chopped-up soul and heart-monitor beeps, Wayne sounds genuinely heated: "Stop analyzing, criticizing/ You should realize what I am and start epitomizing."

The next three tracks never bring back that sense of breathless urgency, but all of them would've made for perfectly acceptable album-tracks on Tha Carter 2. "Kush" is a happy, stoned little dip into Wayne's immense supply of weed-based punchlines. "Love Me or Hate Me" starts Wayne breathing his nonsense over epic swelling strings, no drums in sight. When it kicks in, he brings a guttural sung chorus that works as a distant cousin to his immortal hook on Playaz Circle's "Duffle Bag Boy", but his boasts never cohere into anything concrete. And on "Talkin' About It", he brings an evilly assured singsong flow over a heavy organic bounce track. But those last three tracks are just practice. Or maybe they're victory laps after the apocalyptic openers. Either way, The Leak is an encouraging sign that Wayne's managed to keep himself sharp even after all the material he's already churned out in recent months. Now it's time for him to make good on its promise.
-Tom Breihan, January 17, 2008

i have to imagine that this starts out with "lil wayne is a tease" with a wink to him and baby's homoeroticism. maybe not. anyway tom's a good writer but he fucked up the timeline here, and his contention that "thank god this ep is good because the tapes wayne has put out the lately have been shit" is bogus because i think all these songs except "gossip" basically leaked this summer. plus "kush" is the best song on the whole thing

no jordan sargeo on that opening

Lil' Wayne is a tease. After the departure of B.G., Juvenile, Turk, and producer Mannie Fresh, the Cash Money CEO has probably spent a lot of times on his knees in thanks that Weezy is still around. Wayne is still a Hot Boy, albeit one who likes to get his grown man on. He's eager to prove he's far from a little squirt, and he likes to rub it in constantly. Weezy's been beating off the competition for so long now it's understandable if he's feeling a little testy. A rapper with this much spunk coming out his mouth doesn't need to spend any more time boning up on his skills.

But sometimes his spunk dominates "Like Father Like Son" so much it seems Birdman gets the shaft. Fortunately Stunna still has a little thug in him, and he knows when to just sit back and let Weezy do his thing. As president of Cash Money, Baby has been feeling Wayne for years now, and while his previous albums are hardcore classics, he really blows himself away on this one.

In the words of Bay Area hip-hop critic Oliver Wang, new-school Lil' Wayne "sounds more confident as an MC and wields a genuinely impressive array of different styles". It's obvious Weezy is feeling Wang on this, as he bounces from naked emotion to popping shots in the span of a single track. He never lets you forget he's sitting on 20 inches, but when the lyrical rim jobs wear out he's ready to lay himself bare on an emotional tribute of "Like Father, Like Son". Weezy is a man who will bend over backwards for a hot line, and fleshes out his long arcs with violent thrusts of short diction, while never leaning on rhyming words that merely resemble each other - there's no homophones.

The New Orleans hustler brings it uncut on "Over Here Hustlin", proving he knows how to handle the white stuff. But these two aren't just about pumping crack - rhymes like "call my bullets some lumps, I put 'em deep in ya neck" would be a mouthful for anyone. Stunna goes even harder on "Leather So Soft", while "Army Gunz" illustrates this pair still knows how to cock and squeeze. And on "All About That" the self-described "Fireman" continues to bring the flames over imitation Just Blaze production, proving Birdman and Wayne know how to handle spitting on organs. My only complaint is that the pair blow their load early on, and the second half of the album goes down in the process. But don't worry, there's still enough hotness here to make sure you keep coming back for more.

was gonna say

CLASSIQUE ETHAN

although in his defense i guess it's impossible to write about lil wayne nowadays and not use at least 7-8 phrases that should be followed by no homo

dude named an album the leak

trickled past the lax security at Cash Money

w/e

btw we got called "gadflies" ;_;

Is lil wayne gay?



NO LIL WAYNE IS NOY GAY STRAIGHT UP BIRDMAN LYKE HIS DADDY AND DAT WAZ A MAFIA KISS. DATZ IT NICCA YA HEARD ME? PLUS LIL WAYNE TOO SEXII TO BE GAY!

otm?

u think wayne aain't gonna merkya e like byron says he raps meta n u don't think he's a real jihad? the theatre is in his XD......... JK he would lump u up like the police in off top forensics i spent time in a squat with him breaking up iron and blowing up industrial glass bulbs in the moment u think its cool but then u think what would ur mom say u baby
it was weird dude and u just ignore strange people like that cuz theyre crazy, they poison society, and the following these monsters breeds makes the youth think they can flow like minstrel shows without even writing BUT TO DO THAT U HAVE TO HAVE AN IRON SOUL OR THELL SMACK U UP

gotta go my girls going away l8rz

WHY IS EVERYBODY TRIPPING MORE RAPPERS NEED TO BRING PEACE LIKE LIL WAYNE LIL WAYNE IS A CULTURAL JURIST AND SHALL SIT AMONG SUFIS AND AFRICAN GRANDMOTHERS WITH 9 BABIES WITH AIDS PAY ATTENTION TO SOMETHING IMPORTANT ETHAN U GOT IT WRONG

U ALWAYS KNOW: HE IS REAL HE IS PRO GUN CONTROL.

never ban^

Oh shit.

U ALWAYS KNOW: HE IS REAL HE IS PRO GUN CONTROL

whoever made the Ornaldo Bloomps for president poster needs to take this one on....

i was hoping we would get crazy googlers in this thread!!!

unless that's luriqua in which case WELCOME BACK WELCOME BACK WELCOME BAAAAAAAAAAACK

i remember when i first heard "welcome back" on the radio, it was so nice to have ma$e back, i welcomed him

whoops, that should have read "ma$e luriqua"

lol that matt post is so funny

Jordan Sargent u sick
would you like to hang out without gloves then handcuff u to a rail in the blizzard

 7?; 

sorry i'm being hypothetical u seriously sounded like a hole parade of gays when u wrote that it sounded weird to me don't get me wrong u got the real nice phrase just i recommend workshopping your posts lets chat 8^7

7?;

not to be hubristic i'm just trying to well maybe my interpretation is misguided

it seems like just a process of distilling idea maybe i am prejudiced

i mean most of us are guilty of it i know i am

it's a strange medium and requires a degree of sanity, you know?

u no u r never alone j but unless u discern homo from no homo. that's naive. what i'm saying is maybe the hu hop mentality is high strung but maybe patterns of speech reflect action. hypersexuality is dying with the evangelist's lamb LOLL

maybe violence is worse

like i can't judge u i just get a feeling. i hear ur voice as a delusion in my thoughts and it sounds really overzealous sometimes

while other times it's clever

i don't know

t/s luriqua vs. arms vs. i obtain much hardson on your own site

sorry-- a strange medium in its temporality-- it's based on sanity because there is no rechopping

in terms of lil wayne

i meant. like jordan sargent seriously reminds me of wayne

seriously

hole parade of gays

damn i'm a fag

i mean not the good gays the ones who used to dress with no clothes and go in parades

http://chipdoc.com/Broppsfar/images/energizerbunny.jpg

yeah i need to check my fool this is horrific

this thread is going...

http://chuckie.free.fr/pics/20040517/elephant-poop.jpg

the real problem with this record will be the lack of structural verse, lack of understanding much beyond numerological ideology pushed on him and the lack of injected subversive movement, thought into the text rather than pulling words out the air. gddmnt i sound like i'm trying to sell holistic medicine

the prismic entendre is dangerous. wtf was i trying to say

he has an infectuous horde of followers in those who fiend for visceral punchlines while they can't really hear and they imitate. and it's not fair. wayne should write and consider more thoroughly his verse. his gift is pushing so many kids towards off top when they should be writing.

writing for themselves and growth and revision. and boosie is losing too

from what i can hear at least

what's happening these days is that a good writer writes and reads, changing the words as he goes through it live in revision, whereas wayne just considers his offtop good to go at all times

he has too much faith in his sanity maybe

not to say when he shines he doesn't shine bright

i respect his resignation of violence, and his far left lean-- but why does he abuse old symbols for wordplay or whatever you all thought camron did

la la la was real dope though cuz he maintained lyricality and relative meaning throughout the song, which is painfully rare for him

Remember that picture of the dog and the old man? Yeah, that.

^^otm

what's happening these days is that a good writer writes and reads, changing the words as he goes through it live in revision, whereas wayne just considers his offtop good to go at all times

-- Arms, Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:23 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

he has too much faith in his sanity maybe

-- Arms, Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:24 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

not to say when he shines he doesn't shine bright

-- Arms, Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:27 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

^^this actually has relative merit to it

laffing so hard @ this thread i'm shitting rum out my auns

i'm shitting rum out my auns

this could conceivably be a lil wayne line

haha I read that as "shitting rum out my ARMS"

leel gayne

Let's anticipate how long before his next arrest...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080123/en_nm/rapper_arrested_dc

http://articles.citypages.com/2008-01-09/music/the-efron-scandal/

i still don't totally buy this, wtf

dude

i mean:

"What's up, my nigga?'" Efron says, giving Wayne a pound, a hug, and then, to my astonishment, a full-on kiss reminiscent of the one Wayne famously gave his surrogate father Baby last year. (Needless to say, it's clear that Efron is going to have to work harder to squelch those rumors surrounding his sexuality.)

this was proven to be fake a while ago

i actually WANTED it to be real! oh well.

is "ben westhoff" ethan's pen name?

still, it was funnier than this:

http://voguingtodanzig.blogspot.com/2007/06/political-song-for-paris-hilton-to-sing.html

where's Arms when you need him?

http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=567285

Although Lil Wayne's Tha Carter III has been delayed numerous times in the past six months, it is finally expected to come out in March or April. The new album's official single, "Lollipop," features Static and reportedly will be serviced to radio shortly. And while Wayne is always in demand to do collaborations on other people's records, his own album is loaded with special guests too, including Hurricane Chris, Corey Gunz, Tyga, Jibbs, Shanell, Kidd Kidd, Mack Maine and Lil Mama.

"It's one of those albums people are really waiting on, so I made it so that whatever is on it will stick with you forever," he told Billboard.com. "I'm taking my time with it. And I'm giving artists I respect and people I want to do songs with -- not songs the label fixed -- an opportunity to collaborate... I think this album is going to be one of my best albums. I'm a true perfectionist. I might have to work out a deal with Universal to shoot a video to for all these songs, that's how crazy they all are. Every one of them is a movie."

Yet another report w/ a different lead single title, and a really weird guest list. Still, giving all the features to one-hit kiddie rappers would be in a weird way honoring his roots, and would probably still be better than the usual "anti-climactic song with Jay-Z, anti-climactic song with Eminem" formula that you get with most would-be blockbuster rap albums these days.

corey gunz!!! hahahe he must read bronxrap.com too

he's missing skyzoo and papoose though

that's the same guest list that was in the billboard article, but the billboard article made it seem like those were other ppl in the "lollipop" (<-this is gonna suck so much, esp. if it's anything like "grown man") video rather than ppl on the album

wtf @ guest list

i read that when it came out in the city pages and it was just like...what? it seemed like something you'd read in one of those local college onion clones or something, just dumb and a waste of a page

nah, Billboard article doesn't say they're all on that song:

The new album's official single, the Deezle-produced "Lollipop," features Static and will be serviced to radio shortly. A video for it was recently shot in Las Vegas. Other guests on the set include Hurricane Chris, Corey Gunz, Tyga, Jibbs, Shanell, Kidd Kidd, Mack Maine and Lil Mama. Jim Jonsin, the Alchemist and Cool and Dre contributed production.

I'm not gonna assume the song is garbage just because it's called "Lollipop," but yeah that's not an encouraging title. But I still kinda like the idea of Wayne embracing his role as the first "Lil" rapper to make the A-list and going back and encouraging the current ones coming up.

lil mama is great

save it for the teenpop thread.

OR FOR THE "SHAWTY GET LOSE" THREAD

"SHAWTY GET LOOSE" THREAD TOO!

I only save Yankovic.jpg for the "Shawty Get Loose" thread.

i'd be curious to know this:

do even the most ardent wayne fans actually think this is going to be close to a classic by now?

i mean, is it even going to be an above average major label rap record?

executive producer: george lucas

i don't think there is any way he has it in him to top tha carter II or even dedication 2. i think you define his career on those two, and since i'd say carter II is the best rap album of the decade and dedication 2 almost (almost) as good, it's obvious where i stand.

will he even ever have a single as good as "go dj"?

i don't think there is any way he has it in him to top tha carter II or even dedication 2. i think you define his career on those two, and since i'd say carter II is the best rap album of the decade and dedication 2 almost (almost) as good, it's obvious where i stand.

-- J0rdan S., Tuesday, February 5, 2008 2:56 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

how the fuck do you define Lil Wayne's career without a single Mannie Fresh beat?

do even the most ardent wayne fans actually think this is going to be close to a classic by now?

i mean, is it even going to be an above average major label rap record?

-- M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, February 5, 2008 7:29 PM

not classic, but possibly above average.

how the fuck do you define Lil Wayne's career without a single Mannie Fresh beat?

-- Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, February 5, 2008 2:02 PM (46 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

i love mannie to death but wayne's first great album was also post-mannie fresh. but what i meant was, i think general consensus (besides a few outliers either way) is that his albums up to tha carter II range betwwen okay and good but not great and he either elevated himself to the next level with tha carter II/dedication 2 or he kinda continued on that "yeah but where is his classic?" plateau

btw i should have said "defines his solo career" bcuz cash money group stuff is a different issue

lol @ 2 good-song-having-ass The Carter II being the pinnacle of rap

-- The Reverend, Tuesday, February 5, 2008 12:08 PM (44 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

wrong thread?

-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, February 5, 2008 12:08 PM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

wrong thread

-- The Reverend, Tuesday, February 5, 2008 12:09 PM (0 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

lol @ 2 good-song-having Graduation being the pinnacle of '07

gtfo

carter 2's got at least, like, six good songs.

Okay, maybe, but "Fireman" and "Shooter" are the only songs there I've ever given a damn about and I'm not even sure I still give a damn about the latter. "Fireman" fuckin slays, tho.

Carter 2 = too long, improves the closer you get to the end

I think I bought that CD at the wrong time (i.e. after hearing tracks from Da Drought 3 + other mixtape stuff) because to me Lil Wayne sounds better on other people's jacked tracks.

you probably don't like rap if you think "tha mobb" isn't fire

i'll revisit C2 tonight, who knows, i might feel differently

I can't even remember what the rest of the album sounds like, I just don't remember enjoying it at all, so I'm not going to argue about individual songs.

fair enough

Hustler Music, Receipt, and Best Rapper Alive are probably tops for me. And Shooter, but I played that one to death.

The backbeat on Tha Mobb is kind of distracting to me, I think it's jacked from the last note of Heart of the City?

"Hustler Music" = zzzzzzzzzz

appros of nothing, i'm thinking of starting an Infamous Mobb thread

I have to say I'm glad that Swizz is supposedly gonna have some production on Carter III. Wayne was so good on the "It's Me Bitches" and "Just Fine" remixes that I really wanna hear them do a proper collab.

"Hustler Music" = zzzzzzzzzz

-- The Reverend, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 20:22

does it take great effort to be this rong or does it come easily to you

i know right

Tha Carter is so clearly the pinnacle of Wayne's career.

nothing about it holds any point of interest for me, the lyrics, the production, the performance, nothing xxp

lol at rev

er i mean HOOS

it justs sounds like a completely forgettable album track that was picked as a single for who knows why

i wish his voice still sounded like it did in tha carter era. also "bm j.r." is probably one of my 3 favorite wayne songs ever.

it justs sounds like a completely forgettable album track that was picked as a single for who knows why

-- The Reverend, Tuesday, February 5, 2008 3:27 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

i agree w/ the last half of this

although i actually heard on the radio more than 4 or 5 times

it was my favorite song on the album before it was a single, but yeah, not a great single choice (although still wayyyyy preferable to "Grown Man" or "Shooter")

Was "Grown Man" a single? I didn't hear it at all except for on the album.

best track on carter 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btsTmtTyXDM

yeah, weezy dub.

"Grown Man" was slated to be the 2nd single before it was swapped out for "Hustler Musik," I think a video was even shot but never released, hence the comparison.

Ah, alright

http://nahright.com/news/wp-content/images/wayne-strapped-ad.jpg

http://nahright.com/news/wp-content/images/wayne-strapped-ad.jpg

http://realtalkny.rawkus.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/LilWayneStrappedCondomsAd_14FE1/lw.jpg

l,r: jordache sargent, weezy f baby

is that christopher hitchens

"dwayne, feel how smooth my sac is"

this has to be fake

yeah, no way chris hitchens would agree to that

this has to be fake

-- J0rdan S., Friday, March 7, 2008 4:19 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

lol @ jordan sargent brought in to determine the authenticity of a dude bending weezy over the hood of a car from behind

"weezy's buttfucking expression isnt even close to that face"

http://www.solidentertainment.com/images/current_affairs/bodyslam_sm.jpg

and what from the turnbuckle

porn star meme sparks a comeback

"comeback"

look what wayne brings to the table

im bringin svelty back

go down svelte

in any event i was referring to the motto being "go down strapped" and that was even before i realized it looks like they are bufuing

http://www.flaremedia.net/images/strapped_merch.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQC8kAhFuHY

I'm pretty sure this is the first snippet of "Lollipop" to surface, it's a sneak preview of the video premiere...says the video is out on the 12th:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9oJtv4NNy5w

T-Wayne

P.S. who's Static Major????

are you serious dude

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/1/19/250px-Playa-cheers.jpg

ohhhhhhhhhh, yeah.

RIP Steve "Static" Garrett

longer clip of lollipop (the first single) http://www.zshare.net/audio/870552798e150e

my assertion that t-wayne would be absent from this album offtm

http://youtube.com/watch?v=740d8sTpM7U

there are no closed captions that title is a fucking lie

vid is kind of hilarious with the sound off

i love when WEEZY plays his instrumentz! he looks so sophisticated!!! this is the shit, i love to POP MY PUSSY to this!CAUSE I BRING THAT ASS BACK!

um. so, like I pretty much hate that "lollipop" song. a lot. am i OTM or out of touch?

but i've never been a superfan though, so maybe i'm not in the target market. i will say i saw "go dj" last nite on mtv jams and that song is like a zillion times better than this.

i like lollipop as a static song and not as a lil wayne one, i guess

its still way better than that shitty roots song, whatever big hoos thinks

I kinda doubt the superfans are the target market with that one.

also freaking me out:

"boss" video by rick ross, i realized he has GIRL EYES!!!!!!! creepy1!!

the thing is he could've made a song exactly like his R&B collabos from the past few years (most of which were pretty good) if he was going to totally play it safe and make sure he's got something that'll go over well on 106 & Park. but this song is 5 endless minutes long and the sound of his voice autotuned is actually really unpleasant. (xpost)

actually rick ross has goat eyes

<i>but this song is 5 endless minutes long and the sound of his voice autotuned is actually really unpleasant. (xpost)</i>

haha maybe if i think of this as wayne's post-T-pain version of Public Image Ltd. i'll convince myself it's brilliant

lol so i guess im alone on this one

to me it just sounds like this hazy spaced out R&B jam that sounds really good when im high

to me it just sounds like this hazy spaced out R&B jam that sounds really good when im high

-- deej, Monday, March 17, 2008 3:25 PM (1 second ago) Bookmark Link

the last three words of this post are important, i think. (that's not necessarily a bad thing at all)

part of why i like this is that i was already burned out on the shit everyone else was so excited about w/ lil wayne so when he releases something not at all related to that new style it doesnt really bother me.

i think more key than the 'when im high' thing is the 'r&b jam' thing

I don't actually hate it, it's thoroughly OK to me, if anything I thought "Go DJ" was more weird/unpleasant at first than I feel about this right now.

"thoroughly OK" sounds about right

based on the fact that the last single Static was on was "Crank It Up" I actually expected this to be weirder.

I think I've decided I really like lollipop; it's so oddly mournful and sad, which feels bizarre over the autotune and the "lick the rapper" double entendre style of the whole track. It got better on the fifth listen.

does anyone have the full mp3 of this shits?

I've just been rewinding the 106 and Park video over the weekend.

but i want to put in plaaaaaylist waaaah

Such a sad song!
Might have been better titled "Cher's Death Row Blowjob".

jho you should be able to find a full version out of these: http://www.google.com/search?q=site:zshare.net+lil+wayne+lollipop&hl=en&filter=0

as for the song, i've said it before but i'd let it play if it came up on the radio but it's skip central come album time imo

dude should not be singing.

lol thx for helping my lazy ass w/the google js

fyi this one works http://www.zshare.net/audio/8937869953eb99

anyone hating on this song is so nutzo

(Static)
I know you can come better, can come better than that
So you can kill all the loose rap, you can quit that, quit that
I know you can come better, can come better than that
So you can stop all your loose rap, your loose rap, hey, yeah

the fergie quoting is kinda bringing me down

nah semi-jokes aside, this is kinda addictive in its dreary little way

do feel funner cues have already been taken from 'drifter' than this though (surely the bigger reference point here than any t-wayne autotune auto-boohooing?)

heh i kinda like the fergie ferg lines if only just because they undercut forksish "it's so saaaad" nonsense, reminds you it's a radio record or at least wants to be

can we agree the wayne is better than the usher/jeezy w/ similar euphoric only-when-im-drunk wasted vibe

no

yes

speaking of ursh/young, why has Polow been so disappointing? When "Promise" and "Throw Some Ds" came out, I was sure I'd found my favorite new producer, but since then, he's just continued to amehze me.

lol amehze

'get buck' was hot too

polow amehzes cos polow is a whatevertuoso

he has been teh suck this year though yeah no lie. but coming next from him is NELLY FT FERGIE - PARTY PEOPLE, that can only come out incredible right!! eh? eh? oh.

(also sorry but 'throw some d's was only a coproduction, straighten out yr yardstick)

can we agree the wayne is better than the usher/jeezy w/ similar euphoric only-when-im-drunk wasted vibe

depends - if you're sober then yeah weezy wins the pretend drugz vibe, if you're actually wasted then i wager you will wanna punch yourself in the face for ever saying anything that isnt 'love in the club'

YOU SEE YOU SEARCHING FOR SOMEBODY mumble mumble DO YOU RIIiIiIGHT
WELL COME HERE BABY AND LET DADDY SHOW YOU WHAT IT FEEL LIIiIiIIiKE

^ like, if this isnt some drunken-ass hollering already

(also sorry but 'throw some d's was only a coproduction, straighten out yr yardstick)

-- r|t|c, Tuesday, March 18, 2008 12:02 AM (Tuesday, March 18, 2008 12:02 AM) Bookmark Link

sure, but it wouldn't have been nearly as amazing without Polow's input

YOU SEE YOU SEARCHING FOR SOMEBODY mumble mumble DO YOU RIIiIiIGHT
WELL COME HERE BABY AND LET DADDY SHOW YOU WHAT IT FEEL LIIiIiIIiKE

^ like, if this isnt some drunken-ass hollering already

-- r|t|c, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 07:11 (7 hours ago) Link

if only just because they undercut forksish "it's so saaaad" nonsense, reminds you it's a radio record

Don't see how "lady lumps" undercut sadness in any way and I don't see this rambling five minute vocodelegy as a "radio record". It's absurd and repetitive and weirdly low key and creepy and I just realized it would fit perfectly on Prince's 'Come' album.

I really really like this; it's driving my coworkers nuts now.

It's absurd and repetitive and weirdly low key and creepy

Yeah this is pretty much how I feel about it. The low-key creepiness is what makes me keep it at arms-length, sounds like dude is talking at us from beyond the grave or something.

sounds like dude is talking at us from beyond the grave or something.

-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, March 18, 2008 1:18 PM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

and it took until 'lollipop' for this to creep you out?

http://www.thefader.com/articles/2008/2/7/audio-fabolous-juelz-santana-lil-wayne-you-aint-got-nuthin-on-me

^song is fire, but wayne sounds on his last breath. recommended if you are into the sounds like he is dying stuff

the cult of morbidity surrounding Wayne is getting almost as bad as that of the boosters that put Blackout in all those year-end lists.

maybe people put blackout on their end-year lists because it's a great album?

just a thought

yeah i don't see the connection, plus wayne is actually going to kill himself within the next three-four years

I'm not saying creepy deathwatch fans and actual good music are mutually exclusive, just that the clear presence of rubbernecking weirds me out. (xpost)

oh right

yeah i don't see the connection, plus wayne is actually going to kill himself within the next three-four years

-- J0rdan S., Tuesday, March 18, 2008 2:49 PM (56 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

luriqua sargent

Come on; you're all aware that nothing's worse than unapologetically enjoying music you like. It obviates the need for a critic, which (in this company at least) is like saying there is no Santa Claus.

yall need to shut up and stop whining yall all no dat weezys carter 3 is gonna be the nastiest of them all so sat back and relax and i guarantee that all the songs will be nastier than lollipop

Posted by: bongman at March 18, 2008 11:18 AM

Posted by: bongman

yeah i don't know. like i said i think i'm just out of touch but this all sounds like a once talented dude that's losing it, and not in even an interesting or morbidly entertaining way....just like used up and tired.

sounds like dude is talking at us from beyond the grave or something.

-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, March 18, 2008 1:18 PM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

and it took until 'lollipop' for this to creep you out?

-- J0rdan S., Tuesday, March 18, 2008 6:19 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

http://www.thefader.com/articles/2008/2/7/audio-fabolous-juelz-santana-lil-wayne-you-aint-got-nuthin-on-me

^song is fire, but wayne sounds on his last breath. recommended if you are into the sounds like he is dying stuff

fab & juelz are hot on this^^^^ wayne just sounds like sly stone's retarded kid brother or something

I don't agree with you Matt, but I do see the subjectivity of Wayne's sound.
If somebody called me Sly Stone's retarded kid brother, I'd take it as a compliment.

haha yeah i spose, i dunno, his stuff just bums me out in a way that i can't quite figure out. i just watched the video for 'the block is hot' and sort of wondered what happened to that kid?

i'm not a super hot boys fan like ethan or deej though.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=740d8sTpM7U <-- can someone make a .gif of 1:37-1:38

^^^^this

there's a reason why t-pain shit and shitty slow verses end uo on dj khaled remixes

-- J0rdan S., Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:12 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Link

WHOOOOPS

vid is kind of hilarious with the sound off

-- The Reverend, Monday, March 17, 2008 7:35 AM (Monday, March 17, 2008 7:35 AM) Bookmark Link

seriously tho curtis is right, wayne jerks off the guitar in that one second it's ridiculous and would be the #1 wayne gif of all time someone get on it

i'm coming around to this now that i've heard the explicit and am not watching the tarded video

little too long though (NNNNNNNNNNNNN/HHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!)

xxp:^^^setting yourself up for da lazy zing bot

oh wau, maybe not xxp

a milli is fire

recycled the orville redenbacher line tho

also need gifs of 2:20-2:22 and 2:31-2:32

hahaha both of those

also 2:43-2:44

1:31-1:33

and 4:17-4:18

I think lollipop is really good except for the lovely-lady-lumps lyric

I haven't heard "Lollipop" yet, but Best Buy was selling a Greatest Rapper Alive mixtape that didn't seem to match up with any of the long-running series of mixtapes with the same name. It's got "Feel Like Dying" and "Championship Pop Bottles" (as its called on the tracklist). The song that samples "Help" by the Beatles is kinda cool.

on the millie remix (maybe not even official) i think cory fuckin' gunz of all ppl bodies wayne on his own song.

^^this

i mean wayne's verse is good, i like it way more than lollipop for sure but gddamm gunz double time flow on this when it gets going on the second verse is ILL

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/audio/id.4484/title.lil-wayne-f-cory-gunz-a-millie-snippet

Posted By: DJ Clyde Strokes | 22 minutes ago

Better Question

If Weezy wrote gunz verse the better question is why he make it better than his?
Posted By: westcoastlbc | 8 hours ago

haaa

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003732865

"Lil Wayne's oft-delayed "Tha Carter III" album will at last be released on May 13th via Young Money/Cash Money/Universal Motown."

lol guys this is the day before my birthday :D

Yesterday I heard "Lollipop" on 2 of the 3 local rap stations at the same time, and it was #1 on the other station's request countdown 20 about a half hour before that. Fucking song's going to be inescapable, isn't it.

3 local rap stations

lol spoiled

well Baltimore's technically a one-horse town in that dept. but I get good reception on the 2 D.C. stations.

ah yeah, I was in a similar situation where I could get the hiphop station from Vancouver BC, but they flipped to top 40. I still listen occasionally, but not nearly as much.

one of my favorite parts about coming home is having 2 rap only stations

The whole switch to top 40 thing was kind of bs. Seattle's already well-established rap station reached Van, and Van's upstart rap station was never able to pull listeners away from the Seattle station (which didn't have to deal with cancon, obv) in spite of being about 80 times better. A vacuum opened up for Top 40 in Van and they jumped on it.

xp

weve got a underground rap station, power 92 sound of the streets, wgci which is rap, also R&B, also gospel, and B96 which is urban top 40

i have two urban top 40 stations, both of whom promote themselves as "the home of hip-hop n r&b in the atx"

and B96 which is urban top 40

haha that's the name of OUR urban top 40 station

a.k.a. the t-pain radio network

yo, this is Nappy Boy Radio with ya boy T-Pain, WE LOVE RAP MUSIC

when I said rap stations in my earlier posts, I meant urban top 40, just to be clear, there's no station around here that just plays rap or anything like that

the closest thing we have in Seattle to a rap station other than KUBE 93 is Movin' 92.5 which is like Jack for r&b

two urban top 40 stations here are like heaven cuz in school all we have are two top 40-- i.e. sean kingston and miley cirus central-- like i've already heard 'falsetto', 'dey know' and 'duffel bag boy' since i've been back and it's like ahhhhhh

when I say rap station I mean rap/R&B stations that go heavy on R&B (and at night the D.C. stations play long sets of Go-Go and the Baltimore station plays Bmore club). i'm not sure if i've ever had the pleasure of hearing a radio station that plays just rap with no R&B.

as opposed to 'take you there', 'big girls don't cry', 'no one' and boys like girls

xp

like i've already heard 'falsetto', 'dey know' and 'duffel bag boy' since i've been back and it's like ahhhhhh

No station here plays any of these songs.

KUBE 93's top 20 of their playlist. Please note year old Bow Wow song ffs.

1. Chris Brown - With You
2. Usher F/young Jeezy - Love In This Club
3. Flo Rida - Low
4. Plies F/akon - Hypnotized
5. Sean Kingston - Take You There
6. Mariah Carey - Touch My Body
7. Ray J / Yung Berg - Sexy Can I
8. Keyshia Cole F/missy Elliott & Lil' Kim - Let It Go
9. Colby O'donis / Akon - What You Got
10. Alicia Keys - No One
11. Baby Bash / T-pain - Cyclone
12. Timbaland / Onerepublic - Apologize
13. J. Holiday - Bed
14. T-pain / Yung Joc - Buy You A Drank
15. Chris Brown F/t-pain - Kiss Kiss
16. Chris Brown - Say Goodbye
17. Rihanna / Ne-yo - Hate That I Love You
18. Bow Wow F/t-pain & Johnta Austin - Outta My System
19. Lil' Wayne Ft/static Major - Lollipop
20. Lil Jon F/e-40 & Sean P. - Snap Yo Fingers

wow y'know as much as I bitch about radio here sometimes, at least I haven't had to listen to any more Sean Kingston songs since "Beautiful Girls"

21. Ray J - One Wish

o_O

"Take You There" is at least kind of palatable.

23. Luniz - I Got 5 On It

for some reason this damn station has played this damn song every 2 hours for the past dozen years, which might sound like a good thing, but congratulations to them for killing my appreciation of this song dead

recent songs on my choice radio station at home

4:02 p.m. Crying Out For Me
Mario
rate it

3:57 p.m. Top Back
T.I.
rate it|hear it
CD

3:46 p.m. I'm So Hood
Trick Daddy
rate it

3:42 p.m. Kryptonite
Purple Ribbon All-Stars
rate it

3:38 p.m. My Boo
Usher
rate it|hear it
CD
3:35 p.m. Shawty Get Loose
Lil Mama Ft Chris Brown, T-Pain
rate it

3:31 p.m. I'm So High
Grind Mode
rate it

3:27 p.m. She Got It
2 Pistol Ft. T Pain
rate it

3:24 p.m. Speedin
Ric Ross Ft. R Kelly
rate it

3:20 p.m. Just Fine
Mary J. Blige - tour dates
rate it

3:10 p.m. Shine
Lil Wayne & Hot Boys
rate it|hear it
CD
3:06 p.m. Love In This Club
Usher Ft. Jezzy
rate it

Looking for an ad you heard?
2:48 p.m. With You
Chris Brown
rate it|hear it
CD
2:45 p.m. BED
J. Holiday
rate it

2:41 p.m. Dem Boyz
Boyz In Da Hood
rate it

2:36 p.m. Splash Waterfalls
Ludacris - tour dates
rate it|hear it
CD
2:32 p.m. Touch My Body
Mariah Carey
rate it

2:29 p.m. Never
Jaheim
rate it

vs. at school

Jordan Sparks "Tattoo"
2 Flo Rida "Low"
3 Timbaland "Apologize"
4 Usher "Love In This Club"
5 Alicia Keys "No One"
6 Sara Bareilles "Love Song"
7 Chris Brown "With You"
8 Sean Kingston "Take You There"
9 Natasha Bedingfield "Love Like This"
10 RIHANNA "Don't Stop the Music"
11 Fergie "Clumsy"
12 Lupe Fiasco "Superstar"
13 Mariah Carey "Touch My Body"
14 Snoop Dog "Sensual Seduction"
15 Jordan Sparks "No Air"
16 Ray J "Sexy Can I"
17 Alicia Keys "Like You'll Never See Me Again"
18 Colby O'Donis "What U Got"
19 Miley Cyrus "See You Again"
20 Plies "Hypnotized"

#1. Sensual Seduction

Snoop Dog

#2. Customer

Raheem Devaughn

#3. Falsetto

The Dream

#4. Ching a Ling

Missy Elliot

# 5. Independent
Webbie
# 6. Get Down
DJ Quick
#7. Sexy I Can
Ray J
#8. With You

Chris Brown

#9. Flashing Lights Remix

Kanye West

#10. Crying Out For Me

Mario

wow, didn't know Raheem was doing it that big in the Chi.

chicago would def be a raheem-friendly city

an amusing typo on WPGC's current top ten page lists the #7 song as being by "Mariah Carey Fiasco"

xpost - oh i know it's a very grown and/or sexy R&B type market, but i never know how well he's doing outside the DC area.

wau J0rdan's station: envy envy

4:27 p.m. Superstar
Lupe Fiasco Ft. Matthew Santos

4:24 p.m. THEY KNOW
Shawty Lo

4:20 p.m. Never
Jaheim

4:10 p.m. Girls Dem Sugar
Beenie Man - tour dates

4:06 p.m. The Boss
Ric Ross Ft. T Pain

:) :) -- this is the station responsible for bringing dj khaled upon the earth so it's all relative

Is their slogan, "You must be new around here. WE THE BEST!"?

kube is in their old school hour (which is actually great, as opposed to their normal programming) right now, so the last ten is not representative:

1. D.r.s. - Gangsta Lean
2. T.w.d.y. - Player's Holiday
3. R. Kelly - She's Got That Vibe
4. 2pac - Keep Ya Head Up
5. K.p. & Envyi - Swing My Way
6. Oran 'juice' Jones - The Rain
7. Snoop Doggy Dogg - What's My Name?
8. Ghost Town Dj's - My Boo
9. Montell Jordan - Get It On Tonite
10. 2pac - Dear Mama

actually, a lot of the time the old school hour digs way deeper than ^^^. The other day I heard Jonzun Crew.

here's WGCI which seems a little more R&B oriented as a station than Power 92:

1 Sensual Seduction Snoop Dogg


2 I Remember Keyshia Cole


3 Crying Out For Me Mario


4 With You Chris Brown


5 Independent Webbie


6 Low Flo Rida


7 Pop Bottles Birdman


8 Like You'll Never See Me Again Alicia Keys


9 I Get Money 50 Cent


10 Falsetto The-Dream

lol at radilol.

get one tivo folks.

sorry, I don't have cable television in my CAR, asshole

i hope you keep some medication in there at least.

"milli" posted by pitchfork doesn't have cory gunz on it

wayne's verses are pretty good, the second half of it sounds like something off of the weezyana 2 tape, totally darting over the beat

"Lollipop" jumped to #85 to #9.

I'm officially throwing my hat in the ring for "lollipop" and going on record right now,

I LOVE IT.

i'm actually coming around to "lollipop"

this article is long and terrible: http://idolator.com/373865/a-love-that-shall-never-wayne

(although i don't really like lollipop)

and no April fools either!!!!

yeah that whole thing is really so worthless you probably shouldn't have even brought it up.

Yea that second paragraph = vomit

In real life, I haven't heard anyone say they dont love this song if the have an opinion on it. A lot of people may not really know what to think about it but the people who do are so into it. It's already like anthem status around here, been on repeat nonstop in half my friends' rooms

forget i mentioned it

been on repeat nonstop in half my friends' rooms

lol college?

i just finished reading it and thought it was just alright, even maybe a little hypocritical because dude more than plays into the 'wayne is the worst thing ever'/ "Baby-kisser" (direct quote from the article) hype on his own blog. the guy in the comments section who asked how he could hate on 'a milli' but say 'upgrade u' is one of the best things he's done kinda hit what i thought was wrong with the piece, unless weiss was implying that 'a milli' felt too mixtape-y for an album (my lone reservation), but he just implied that 'a milli' sounded like bad mixtape fodder rather than something good.

also, i'm pretty sure there are lots of dudes who thought 'like father, like son' was better than dedication 2, and if there is a universally hated wayne record it would have to be something from pre-carter, no?

no

lots of dudes who thought 'like father, like son' was better than dedication 2

THIS GUY, RIGHT HERE

yo, i agree with that too actually

j0rdan that article was terrible and practically every line was rong 2

In the past six months, hip-hop has seen strong output from a new generation of rappers—Jay Electronica, Wale, The Knux, Pacific Division, Blu and Clean Guns—yet not one of these worthy artists has gotten their own post on the Forkcast or Status Ain't Hood, despite obviously needing the exposure a whole lot more than the platinum-plus "Young Money Millionaire."

There are as many Wayne songs as there are blogs

omg

that part is actually pretty cash sitta, big hoos

i thought the biggest misstep of the whole article was basing it upon the idea that it's unique that wayne is a love-hate artist, in terms of internet crit and the circles weiss brings up (pitchfork, blogs) wayne and cam are no different than tapes n tapes or panda bear

i.e. jess wrote this exact article about black kids four months ago

that part is actually pretty cash sitta, big hoos

-- deej, Tuesday, April 1, 2008 7:50 P

yeah i was gonna say the first two paras or so are kinda "CHALLENGING OPINION"

i just thought that was a hilars hand-tipping comparison

the biggest problem is that he writes a huge article about lil wayne bitching about how people spend too much time writing huge articles about lil wayne

plus he is wrong about lots of minor detail bullshit like the best tracks on carter 2 and the idea that people should spend more time talking about artists that will be gracing Urb covers within the year

squandering the rare opportunity to broaden his fanbase beyond his key constituency of Southerners, 13-year olds, and white music critics with 180+ IQs, prestigious liberal arts degrees, and questionable taste in hip-hop.

by far the stupidest part of the whole thing

would maybe sound true to someone who hasn't actually listened to popular music with other people present in the past two years. Wayne is THE most popular rap artist right now with every demographic, period. EVERYONE LOVES WEEZY RIGHT NOW, that's what people don't understand. No one asks for "more T-Pain," they ask for Lil Wayne, I'm tellin ya

lol jay electronica was already on the cover of urb

yeah i hate that screamingly self-aware blogger thing. he should leave that schtick to whiney weingarten

LOL BLOGGERS LIKE CRACK RAP BUT THEY WENT TO COLLEGE LOL

I like the article fine and thought the second paragraph a nice stab at trying to understand where he fits in the marketplace. "His songs blessed with a sense of ephemera that jibes with the notion of constant content fit to be devoured and forgotten ten minutes later" -- that's why I like Wayne!

plus he is wrong about lots of minor detail bullshit like the best tracks on carter 2

This is called "taste."

forkcast fails to highlight The Knux, news at 11

also fuck that guy for hating on Paul Wall, that album was great

his declarations from on high about quality w/out any attempt at discussion or explanation or insight aren't about taste, its bloviating taste fascism

Meanwhile, it completely style-jacks T-Pain, a guy who stole every one of his ideas from Roger Troutman, never mind Snoop Dogg's "Sensual Seduction."

this sentence makes my head hurt

"We Takin Over"
"Duffle Bag Boy"
"Pop Bottles"

none of that is meant to be "devoured and forgotten ten minutes later" and those are the types of songs that have given him the status that he enjoys currently, not a bunch of throwaway mixtape tracks that no one has heard or cared about or talked about outside of these here internets

'in case you weren't already aware, there are only two good songs on the carter 2, and they are x and y. Now i will continue arguing a point based on the assumption that you agree with me'

Wayne's drastic improvement from his Cash Money days

his declarations from on high about quality w/out any attempt at discussion or explanation or insight aren't about taste, its bloviating taste fascism

Um, did you read this:

If "Lollipop" is a shameless, poorly executed, but well-thought out play for the charts, "A Millie" is the opposite, a half-baked and sloppy street single with Wayne once again in mixtape mode, stringing together simile after simile for five and a half minutes of banal shit-talking. Of course, there are a few clever lyrical turns. "I don't owe you like two vowels" is as good as anything Lupe Fiasco has written, but like Weezy's entire discography, "A Millie" is maddeningly inconsistent. Its beat is a hiccuping, overly repetitive, minimalist mess that sounds like it could only have been selected by someone under the influence of too much drank and drugs. Meanwhile, Wayne attempts to mask his empty-calorie lyrics by relying on his now-familiar grab-bag of vocal tics, forcing syllables to stretch that shouldn't stretch, modulating his voice without purpose, everything strictly for schtick and effect

I don't agree entirely, but, you know, chacun a son goute.

Basically you guys are saying it's terrible cuz you don't agree with his opinions.

alfred there are plenty of people in this thread who agree with the idea that wayne is way overhyped

Basically you guys are saying it's terrible cuz you don't agree with his opinions.

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, April 1, 2008 3:06 PM (42 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

the biggest problem is that he writes a huge article about lil wayne bitching about how people spend too much time writing huge articles about lil wayne

-- deej, Tuesday, April 1, 2008 2:55 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

the problem with the article is that its not svelte enough

"A Millie" is the opposite, a half-baked and sloppy street single with Wayne once again in mixtape mode, stringing together simile after simile for five and a half minutes of banal shit-talking. Of course, there are a few clever lyrical turns. "I don't owe you like two vowels" is as good as anything Lupe Fiasco has written, but like Weezy's entire discography, "A Millie" is maddeningly inconsistent. Its beat is a hiccuping, overly repetitive, minimalist mess that sounds like it could only have been selected by someone under the influence of too much drank and drugs. Meanwhile, Wayne attempts to mask his empty-calorie lyrics by relying on his now-familiar grab-bag of vocal tics, forcing syllables to stretch that shouldn't stretch, modulating his voice without purpose, everything strictly for schtick and effect

this whole paragraph pwnd by dude in comments section

it's terrible because it sounds like it was written by a rap-blog robot

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I'd start with Carter II and cherry-pick the best songs off Dedication II and Da Draught III. That's really all you need.

deej, if you actually read the thing you'd see that Weiss is more pissed off that there isn't enough temperate crit written about Wayne ("The first swallows his hyperbole and concludes that he is the greatest rapper alive, a prolific, infallible genius who operates in a Bizarro galaxy heretofore reserved for such king weirdos as Mike Tyson, Cam'ron, and Kim Jung-Il. The other labels him complete garbage, a walking, talking, Baby-kissing plague on humanity responsible for SARS, Ebola, and the assassinations of both Kennedys.").

....cuz those are the only mp3's I based my 2500 word blog post on"

xp to deej

swallows his hyperbole

(although I would have taken a red pencil to the Kennedy and Ebola analogies)

"A Milli" just isn't that great of a song, which is probably why it's out and not something better...it's a throwaway

i kind of really like a milli the only thing is that i don't wanna listen to SUPPOSED MASTERPIECE THA CARTER III and feel like i'm spinning some random lil weezyana freestyle, as great as a lot of those are

I don't understand that argument, especially in this case. The early leaks/street singles often ARE among the best songs on a rap album, and it would make NO sense for Wayne to leak all these good songs that aren't on the album and then deliberately leak a subpar one when it comes time to actually hype the album. Odds are he just thinks it's better than it is, just like most of the stuff he's done in recent drug-addict-who-believes-he's-infallible mode. (xpost)

yeah alex is right in this case i think

dude i dont think he "leaks" anything...he doesnt have the capacity right now to consciously leak a track

I think he records wayyyy too many songs to keep track of and this one got loose because it's not one of the 14 that Baby has been carrying around in a steel briefcase handuffed to his wrist for the past three months...some dude at the studio probably leaked it

i think he'd consciously leak an album track to keep up the notion that this is coming out eventually, but taking it out of hand that 'a milli' is gonna end up on the album is probably a folly considering there have been like 50+ leaked "tracks" form this thing

Yeah, "A Milli" is the actual 'official' 'street' 'single' that the label is working alongside "Lollipop."

I dunno about the mechanics of how his previous non-mixtape tracks leak (like all the "Carter III sessions" stuff from last year), but I'm guessing you're buying into the mystique/narrative he wants you to if you think he just records all day and doesn't give a shit if the engineer sneaks out a rough mix.

i don't think the mix is rough i just think the song sucks...I didn't realize that CMR was actually pushing this and haven't seen any evidence of that but if they are then I'm obviously mistaken. Still, if you think about all those tracks that came out, they're all better than this one, so why "A Milli" and why take it as an actual track off C3 if no one did for all those other ones?

I'm guessing you're buying into the mystique/narrative he wants you to if you think he just records all day and doesn't give a shit if the engineer sneaks out a rough mix.

yeah pretty much

I didn't say that song is a 'rough mix', dude, read again. And it's being taken as an actual track off C3 because it IS an official single being sent out by the label, and none of the previous leaks were besides that song and "Lollipop" were.

fair enough. I guess what I'm trying to say is WTF @ cash money

and

'a milli' felt too mixtape-y for an album (my lone reservation)

this

Okay, going back a bit here and this may have been addressed, but this:

plus he is wrong about lots of minor detail bullshit like the best tracks on carter 2

reeks of "he doesn't agree with me! he's so wrong!", and I thought we were kinda past that. Not to say he isn't wrong about a whole lot of other shit, but let's not call dude out for not liking your favorite songs. Plenty of other fish in the barrel...

yeah but being able to sort the good from the bad is pretty much the easiest way to tell who's full of shit re: Wayne (i.e. all the critics who seem to think "Shooter," "Georgia Bush" and "I Feel Like Dying" are the highlights of his career).

lol @ arguing with a trailer for a keanu reeves sequel

you are looking at the preview of Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey

Point Break 7

i'm just sayin', hey mona lisa, come home, you know you can't Speed 2 without Keanu

who the fuck was beatrix kiddo

Lil Wayne - The Carter III

1. "Weezy (Interlude)"
2. "Still Can't Stop the Reign"
3. "D.I.V.A. Radio (Interlude)"
4. "It Was All a Dream" feat. Jay-Z and Young Jeezy
5. "No Love Lost" feat. Juelz Santana
6. "Strait Playin'" feat. DJ Quik
7. "Best to Worst"
8. "Legal Money" feat. Curren$y and DJ Khaled
9. "Edge of Night" feat. Bobby Brown
10. "S.H.E. (Interlude)"
11. "Let's Wait a While"
12. "Can I Play Gunz" feat. Birdman and Rick Ross
13. "Just Be Good to Me" feat. Kanye West
14. "More to Life" feat. Justin Timberlake
15. "Big Dog Stomp" feat. T.I. and Fat Joe
16. "Game of Death"
17. "Outtro (Interlude)" feat. Young Money
18. "Player" feat. Birdman
19. "Don't Wanna Be Alone"

-- and what, Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:37 AM (2 months ago) Bookmark Link

the sad thing is that i wouldn't be surprised if that's a fake/spoof tracklist

-- Beatrix Kiddo, Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:42 AM (2 months ago) Bookmark Link

:D :D :D

Beatrix Kiddo = R@ymond Cumm1ngs of old ilx. Mad cool dude. Black skater type.

ok yah i recognize the name

oh dag, I didn't even know that was him, City Paper fam

no jaymc

lol at "black skater type" :)

seriously, i need to post more here but i've got zero time. i lurk on the election 2008 boards.

i'm sorta neutral on weiss' column i guess. it isn't worth getting pissed off at dude b/c i don't totally agree w/ him. life's too short.

exactly

the "black skater" line is extra funny because when i searched your name in my email archive just now the first thing that came up was you asking me about a Lupe Fiasco release date

lol @ "no jaymc"

i like your singles column r@ymond.

"no jaymc" = funny but i dunno why, exactly

al, i can't believe you still have that email! i think i wanted to review that lupe album somewhere but was having a tough time nailing down a release date.Amusingly enough I've never bought/heard either of his albums, just a few singles. Never got around to him I guess

M@tt: thanks, seriously. My editors dig it but I always wonder whether readers actually look at it every week.

As to the topic at hand, I've sort of backed off snapping up every last Wayne mp3/mixtape/remix out in the immediate past, and I haven't heard "A Millie" or "Lollipop" at all yet! Would rather just hear Carter III as a whole when it drops for a review I'm doing, even if approaching it that way sorta misses whatever the larger "point" of Weezy is in 2008.

easily searchable gmail archives are crazy addictive. i think it's supplanted any need or desire I ever had to keep a diary.

I feel the same way about kinda backing off Wayne lately and just waiting for the album (although to be honest I've never really followed the mixtape stuff closely, it was just everywhere anyway). the album should be dropping right in the middle of my upcoming vacation so maybe I can just buy it and enjoy/evaluate it in a media blackout while the internet debate rages on.

Lollipop is sooooo bad, but how can you not be excited about this album! Lil Wayne is the best rapper doing it since Hell Hath No Fury. Its too bad his album won't have that kind of unified sound, but he's a better rapper than The Clipse anyway.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51KWq2yQ5NL._SS500_.jpg

not a joke apparently

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013ABI48/ref=br_nf_5_1?pf_rd_p=288136301&pf_rd_s=center-9&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=5174&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1KWPD6B72RH3JNGVTJK3

Chitown 312 — 20 minutes ago
oooooooooooo hell naw this nigga is crazy

reply prop trash

+1 Props pistol pete — 17 minutes ago
ahahahahaha omg if weezy makes it this
i might just piss myself

woooooooow

reminds me of "Shark Niggaz"

I understand wayne did all the photoshop on that cover himself, total renaissance man

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OOOOOOOOOOOO

hahaha omg <3 wayne yay !!!!

if he ever quits drugs hes gonna totally be all wtf all these tattoos on my face

maybe a http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/83/2b/95a4228348a0d739a0c40110.L.jpg reference?

or maybe he's just on drugs

i like the cover where he's wearing lipstick better

looooooooooooooooolz sarge

Ho
Ly
Shit

headinhands.jpg

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/ATA/24818BP%7ENelson-Posters.jpg

Appropriate!

on the new Billboard charts this week at #198 is some random Lil Wayne/Birdman mixtape released 2 weeks ago, not even one of the official ones but something called Happy Fathers Day (lol) with a bunch of previously released shit from last year on it.

rofl @ happy fathers day

man best buy sells all these random ass wayne tapes now

that doesn't have that bad of a wrap-up of post Drought 3 stuff though

I remember Benzi's Wayne mix was like number two or three on iTunes forever, too

yeah but a big chunk of it is random old old stuff like "Way Of Life" and "What Happened To That Boy" (xpost)

man best buy sells all these random ass wayne tapes now

-- J0rdan S., Wednesday, April 9, 2008 8:22 PM

yeah best buy and target are all over tapes right now its o_O

this album is gonna do HUGE numbers, everything that comes out with his name on it right now gets bought

did they push it back to June??? or am I imagining that

alex what does 198 translate to? like over 5k?

anyone know where I can get "Feel Like Dying" without any drops ruining it?

I think 5k might get you into the top 50 these days.

yeah it has a good chance of finishing top 3 in most sold first week of 08. last i saw was may 13

alex what does 198 translate to? like over 5k?

-- J0rdan S., Wednesday, April 9, 2008 4:29 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

3,760 this week (plus a few hundred more the previous week when it was released)

Lil' Wayne's Carter III Pushed Back

damn, matrix, you beat me!

i shouldn't be surprised at this news i guess but it still pisses me off.

worst news ever

I've also come around to the fact that that cover is terrible...but in a funny way.

worst news ever

-- Preview of the Matrix 12, Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:29 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

o_O

I mean that's o_O for even you

its THA CARTER III this is serious business!! also you are immune to my unique style of Internet message board hyperbole which gets exponentially more severe when discussing this album or something?

no, I do not approve of such hyperbole. you are worse than Hitler.

was totally looking forward to birthday carter III jam session-- RIP

I have to wait an extra month to run through a best buy waving a plastic case with a tattooed baby on it..he better add like a million vocoders to every song to make up for this

birthday/carter III*

anyway wayne is quoted in the new rolling stone saying "the album is done when my label tells me it's done" so who knows what that even means, if he has 200 tracks as reported i'm sure they could have found the best 16 already. i hope they aren't waiting for like robin thicke to cut a hook or something

this is my katrina

they're just adding the last
flourishes of autotune to the skits
and interludes

lollipop is still dope

I have to wait an extra month to run through a best buy waving a plastic case with a tattooed baby on it..he better add like a million vocoders to every song to make up for this

-- Preview of the Matrix 12, Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:49 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

man this is next level even for preview of the matrix 12

it'd be better if it was only like 3:50 tho

ethan i think he's being sarcastic

lollipop is still dope

-- deej, Thursday, 10 April 2008 19:13 (37 minutes ago) Link

YES

lollipop completely blew away my expectations for this album...it's fucking epic.

rob threezy RIP

7hreezy livs 4 real dun

wayne browse 12chan??

practicing crackrap is the only reason life is worth living just never record it

Lollipop = #1

surely a victory for....something or other

"a milli" is on itunes a min short than the leaked version with some new bars in the middle

a new second verse rather

oh man this is too funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hS6wOXTYrQ

just in case anyone is hesitant that is Lil Wayne performing "lollipop" and attempting to play guitar along to the music....

this excerpt from the rolling stone article gives us a SHOCKING insight into why tha carter III is never going to come out:

Lil Wayne has two primary passions: making music and smoking weed. Tonight, those have come into conflict. Wayne is sitting on his tour bus in New Orleans, having come back to his hometown for two concerts. He'd like to head into a studio to do some mixing for Tha Carter III, 2008's most anticipated rap album. But there's a problem. Wayne isn't allowed to smoke in the studio. So he stays on the bus, lighting blunt after blunt and watching Animal Planet on the TV.

playing guitar + smoking blunts + watching animal planet = wayne has turned into a white college student

i was gonna say...

when I saw him on the tour w/ Jeezy last year he twiddled on a guitar along with "Leather So Soft," too. shit is sad. at least Andre 3000 could play chords!

does he have anyone around him to be like "yo you have no idea how to play guitar maybe it's not a good idea....and maybe we should go try to finish your album..."

or like, ya know, take a day off from the syrup and xanax

"Do your history, do your research," he vented. "It ain't that easy — feels like death in your stomach when you stop doing that sh--. You gotta learn how to stop, you gotta go through detox. You gotta do all kinds of stuff. Like I said, I'm a selfish-ass n---a. I feel like everything I do is successful and productive. It's gonna be hard to tell me I'm slipping. It's hard to sit and tell a n---a 'Stop.' 'F---, how can we tell this n---a to stop when every f---ing thing he do is successful? This n---a is making progress. He just went and talked to kids and that sh-- was amazing.' Feel me? So what am I doing wrong?"

so essentially, he won't stop until the syrup makes his music completely awful (which it pretty much has, judging by the "Love In This Club" remix) AND his career momentum slows down enough that he can't deny that it's hurt his music (which it probably won't until a little while after Carter III drops).

lil' wayne shreds

lol

I'm a selfish-ass n---a

where would we get that idea from...?

http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?126caacb0a.png

WOW

sad.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ig_WGsU48K0

Seemed like outside of the first question the rest of the answers were pretty lucid.

those first 30 seconds or whatever are just excruciating

"if you feel offended by my music...or if you feel defended by my music..."

weezy speaks for me and my kayaking brethren

so how about three great Wayne features in the span of two days??

stay focused weezy!!

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

im sure he doesn't even remember recording them

didn't know if this belonged in non-tpain autotune or rolling weezy syrup addiction

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/audio/id.4803/title.lil-wayne-f-short-dawg-me-my-drank

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080321005136AAsMsZB

he dropped some half thoughtful verses on the mixtape monster, flip floppin on his hatin asz

he's a team player but a selfish player. i heard last street match he had a field goal percentage of 24.6 while scoring 90 points? really, it ain't a snap, he should leave basketball alone. u can't walk outside with your girl on your arm naked catch some nucs to the cortex

i agree

lollipop is still dope

-- deej, Thursday, 10 April 2008 19:13 (37 minutes ago) Link

YES

-- Preview of the Matrix 12, czwartek, 10 kwiecień 2008 20:52 (1 month ago) Bookmark Link

so very

from the blender q&a:

One tip is: If you only gonna be in there a few days, even if it’s a whole week, don’t eat. Who wanna shit in front of anyone? Everyone gonna smell you. Some niggas in there don’t care, but me, I’m a hygienical nigga. You gotta hold that in.

^ key for real. weezy learned.

he's publishing like fischer, but doesn't he have solitude and ideas to refine and coherize

where am i not supposed to poop? or do i have to wait until the carter III comes out to find out?

the rhyme is magic, and coherent images en rapid are cultivated mind-- but it's not always there, thought air to grab something out it and get the rhyming image, the poetic force. but what about the setup? what about the farce to identity to image? he got that, sometimes at random. he needs to write and figure out just what is going on in the world, and if he can sly it out let him be here, in the ethos. he's gonna burn out if he follows his path. unless he gets a good h connect, then he'll be marvin gaye

GOGHAN ALL DAY LIKE THA CLOCK ON THE WAUL

unless he gets a good h connect, then he'll be marvin gaye

completely next level. you are that dude please continue

only shit at home. xxxxpost

shaman say u need protein n small doses throughout, complex protein

resolve the latent receptors in your mind don't blast them

there are spectrum plants beyond burning trees, which really should be a damn tea

weak ass misfiring braincells

weirdumb

I heard a Lil Wayne & T-Pain song on the radio today. Don't remember the name of it. It was pretty good, tho.

"Got Money" http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/audio/id.4825/title.lil-wayne-f-t-pain-got-money

yeah i heard that today i took a careful listen and it was as satisfying as a shit upon my own toilette

DON'T DRINK COFFEE

there are two artists right now w/ 4 songs in the itunes top 40

david cook and lil wayne

"got money" is pretty aight i guess

the mix makes this sound like the tinniest rap song ever tho

beat sounds like a boosie single

heard "a milli" on the radio yesterday + lollipop remix.. 2nd half of this, wtf

has the full album leaked yet?

tracklist!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Carter_III

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuxUySIFNZ8

anyone know where I can d/l "Feel Like Dying" without DJ drops and sound-effects?

Found a mixtape from mixtapekings or one of those places that said no drops, but I'd rather have instant gratification.

No "Something You Forgot"??? Or "Pray to the Lord"??? :(

"Lollipop" remix is so fucking dope...

it's perfect...one guest, no Miami/Khaled mob train, RAPPING and the tasteful autotune

beat sounds like a boosie single

it sounds like a mix of Lil Jon synths and crappy runners drums

or in other words a T-Pain beat

this tracklist looks good

No "Something You Forgot"??? Or "Pray to the Lord"??? :(

-- Tape Store, Thursday, May 29, 2008 12:59 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

he said no previously leaked stuff will make it onto the album

Huh? So that's a different "La La"?

i hope it is cuz i rly don't wanna hear brisco or busta rhymes on that beat

plus the (awesome) "la la la" on the og summer 07 leak doesn't sound like a david banner beat AT ALL

to be honest i kind of want the 07 leak to stay as it is. everyone rated it as it's own album anyway and personally i'm not thinking like "if he includes the best songs off that it will have a better chance of making my idolator ballot". i mean those songs are a year/year and a half old now. they're their own thing

God, that sucks. "La La La" >>> "A Milli"/"Lollipop"

yeah it's a diferent song, there are clips of all the songs online

I forgot where though so you have to google it

the mp3 of clips sounded good

it's on zshare

http://nahright.com/news/2008/05/29/lil-wayne-sued-over-i-feel-like-dying-sample/

http://nahright.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/carter3-jewel.jpg

i hope it is cuz i rly don't wanna hear brisco or busta rhymes on that beat

That wiki linked says "La La" DOES feature Brisco and Busta.

woops i guess "got money"is produced by playnskillz not tpain

also apparently he's gonna be on tpain's first single from his next album and the song is called..............................."Snap Yo Fingers"

wtf

i hope it is cuz i rly don't wanna hear brisco or busta rhymes on that beat

That wiki linked says "La La" DOES feature Brisco and Busta.

-- jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:48 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

ya i know i'm saying i was hoping it was diff "la la" than the (spare, piano-driven one) that leaked last summer because i think that's a near perfect wayne song and i didn't want to see it bludgeoned by shitty verses from briscoe or busta

i cant believe this drops in like 10 days ^_^

'lala's not really better than lollipop or a milli, its a dece album track but kinda sounds like some shit ghostface would use now

maaan that lalala is so cold man. i hope it don't dissolve whata backwards thinker.

i wish aaliyah were alive

"la la la " is prob my fave wayne song

though i'm not really a big wayne fan and don't know that many of his songs so whatever

Missing him live tonight at Love, a DC nightclub. Maybe I'll see him next month in Baltimore at an arena show.

some people have some impressive self-control right now cuz this is definitely out there...I've seen scans of the booklet and now the Jay-Z track "Mr. Carter" is floating around

those of you wishing for more "La La La La" will be real happy with it

Jay kind of ate him up on it though

OK WOW

my head is exploding.....

guess who has a dope verse juelz bitches

"let the beat build"
"3peat"
"dr. Carter"
"nothin on me"

and the one with robin thicke

standouts so far

superfire

this album is incredible

:D

twee-est swizz beats beat ever

if you're not feeling this fabo/juelz track give up

haven't y'all heard?
y'all herbs

:D :D :D :D :D

yeah you fly
but what is it to pilot?

if you feelin froggy
leap

guess who has a dope verse juelz bitches

-- chinchillas they can fit on gorillas, Friday, May 30, 2008 7:38 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

¯\(°_o)/¯

swizz beatz**

you surfboard dudes get wiped out
totally

I have to wait an extra month to run through a best buy waving a plastic case with a tattooed baby on it..he better add like a million vocoders to every song to make up for this

-- Preview of the Matrix 12, Thursday, April 10, 2008 6:49 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Link

got money

also this:

my head is exploding.....

-- chinchillas they can fit on gorillas, Saturday, May 31, 2008 12:37 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark Link

you surfboard dudes get wiped out
totally

-- tpp, Saturday, May 31, 2008 8:06 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Link
^^^^

it might be like a whole month until i can move from quoting this thing into actually talking about it

i'm a do it again like nigga backwards

YES

i love the idea of him having the "aggin" epiphany

do u guys have 'got money' remix w/ pitbull

i dont remember seeing that on the tracklist

haven't listened to it yet but im gonna lmao if he goes in w/ a autotune. and it will be awz

closin million dollar deals from my iphone

i am gonna be so annoying (moreso) to be around 2night cuz i can only talk abt this album

the last verse of "playing with fire" is off "something your forgot" iirc

sounds good tho

Dr. Carter is amazing -maybe the best thing he's ever done. And who thought Swizz Beats could come up with a beat like that?

The album is great; it's definitely distinguishable from the mixtapes but it doesn't sound nearly as constrained as I had feared.
Let the beat build is strate fiya.

NOT a fan of the auto-tune though. Fuck T-Pain.

I SEE THE BITCHASSNESS OF A LOT OF MIXTAPE DJS RIGHT NOW AND IT SUMS UP A LOT OF WHAT I ALREADY THOUGHT AND HAVE BEEN SAYING SINCE DAY ONE....YALL NIGGAS AREN'T REAL!! SINCE DJ'S LOVE TO TALK SHIT ABOUT EACH OTHER AND BASH EACH OTHER FOR NO REASON BUT ARE SCARED AS HELL TO STAND UP FOR THEMSELVES WHEN SOMEONE TALKS SHIT ABOUT THE GROUP AS A COLLECTIVE I FIGURE I'LL DO WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING SINCE DAY ONE AND THATS STANDING ON MY OWN! I'LL BE DAMNED IF I LET ANY NIGGA GET AWAY WITH SAYING F**K ME WITHOUT HIM FACING SOME TYPE OF REPRECUSSIONS! INCLUDING LIL' WAYNE!!! I GAVE HIM A PASS WHEN HE KISSED ANOTHER MAN BECAUSE THAT S**T DIDN'T EFFECT ME,
BUT HE'S NOT SLIDING ON THIS ONE!
LIL WAYNE SAID F*CK MIXTAPE DJS!
SO NOW IM ABOUT TO SHOW THAT BOY THE MEANING OF BOOTLEG!
FREE CARTER 3 DOWNLOAD!
PART 1
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=31EJ1W1H

PART 2
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=62Q8LWHW

ouch. dnswye

twee-est swizz beats beat ever

-- J0rdan S., Saturday, May 31, 2008 4:26 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Link

???

its just a david axelrod loop

I'm rare like mr. clean with hair
no brake lights on my car rear
I never had lice and i never had fear

guess who has a dope verse juelz bitches

-- chinchillas they can fit on gorillas, Friday, May 30, 2008 8:38 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

http://mail.solomon-schechter.com/pics/lchallop2.jpg

but how does this compare to shawty lo's masterpiece, chinchallops they can fit on gorillas

twee-est swizz beats beat ever

-- J0rdan S., Saturday, May 31, 2008 4:26 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Link

???

-- deej, Saturday, May 31, 2008 4:01 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

i was v drunk when i posted this

i dont even know what song i was talking about

oh 'dr. carter'

twee isn't the right word but it is a very un-swizzy beat

haha yah its just a one track jack

my niece was 4 when she felt chinchallops

it's better than units in the city!!

honestly just step away from the hating for two seconds and admit that Units In The City is dope and you like it

the end of "let the beat build" sounds like usic wrote it

"hair nappy like pam"

dude i said i liked units in the city already, its just that you were all BETTER THAN ANYTHING BY T.I. about it

glad to see cats excited about an album for the first time in whatever

"got money" is far and away the worst thing on this

kanye tracks are the b0mb

so much guitar for him! good looks though

Holy shit "Misunderstood"!!!

yall coyfish
what else
octopus
what else
oysters

"she told me im a blast im a stud"

lol juelz

ha the remix of the lollipop remix is AWFUL gtfo

"the remix of the lollipop remix"??

ya it's a new beat from chops (sp?) (he did "damn i'm cold) and it blows

OK INITIAL REAL THOUGHTS:

(mostly just thinking out loud here)

even more than how great this is, i'm just left thinking about how smart wayne is for playing into the growing rep of him as some tweaking narcoleptic who records 9 songs a day and has no idea what's ending up on his album, because it got him a lot of press except it's actually all bullshit. all the songs on this are totally composed (in terms of a mental state, not a musical one, but also that) and, like all of his best stuff, just really good "rapping". i guess his awful new stuff (say, his verse on the 'love in this club' remix) is 'lol tons of weirdo personality with a little bit of rapping' and the verses here are uniformly great and a lot of times pushed over the top by weirdo personality seeping in (as opposed to being taken off the deep end by weirdo personality). i guess i had (rightfully) worried that over the past year and a half or so he'd totally lost his focus (lol pete wentz) but he's completely honed in on the album. so even now i'm still no closer to figuring out where the fuck his mind has been at since he dropped dedication 2. like if he wanted people to believe that he was recording a classic and that wilding out on gym class heroes bullshit was just for kicks, he could have said that. instead he has been all like "yah i record all the time but i don't know what's going on the album also hey i'm in a rock band now we are called the grasshoppers". whatever.

as a whole album this is far and away his best (and i think c2 is one of the best rap albums of the decade, so go figure). his trajectory into superstardom actually worked as an immense advantage to his music (again, go figure) it seems, as did the insane hype surrounding the album, cuz you really get the feeling that ye and swizz and whoever went out of their way to get their best beats on the album. either that or dude's picked up an incredible ear for beats. all that said, i don't think the best verses on here touch the best verses on carter II (circumstances surrounding that one can't really be duplicated) but its a way leaner and more consistent listen (hello, go figure).

right and by narcoleptic i mean the complete opposite of a narcoleptic

i hope this sells 500 + first week

xp: insomniac?

lol yes

like, even jay's verse is good

yall need to shut up and stop whining yall all no dat weezys carter 3 is gonna be the nastiest of them all so sat back and relax and i guarantee that all the songs will be nastier than lollipop

Posted by: bongman at March 18, 2008 11:18 AM

-- J0rdan S., Tuesday, March 18, 2008 3:20 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Link

BONGMAN OTM

there really should never have been any doubt

yeah I just tried to figure out which song is worse than "Got Money" but I can't...it's no better than a number of songs that never made this album and is pretty typical of all the crap that has been tossed around the internet with weezy's name on it in the past year except that it has the REAL Golden Boy on it so you know it's gonna be a hit

it was def. thrown together at the last minute and I feel like the quoted half-joke above about a million more vocoders is otm and this song was actually recorded in interim between the last pushback and when it was leaked....someone was like ok we need a couple more weeks cuz we just got T-Pain to come into the studio for a couple hours and he and Wayne are gonna smoke 10 blunts and laugh about how much cash they have on them

but it's already huge and I wonder if any other songs on here are hits

you know at this point, i wouldn't be surprised at any of these randomly blowing up, but there def aren't any obvious smashes besides those two. maybe the babyface or robin thicke ones

i hope they aren't waiting for like robin thicke to cut a hook or something

-- J0rdan S., Thursday, April 10, 2008 1:50 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Link

lol turns out they were but the song is fire

I actually like "got money"....just heard it blasting out of every car within earshot on hot97 and realized it

Is anyone here scheduled to review this album for any physical or online publication?

can't believe I'm liking a Fabolous verse so much. you'll be curled up like fried shrimp.

album's good, there were a few I'm not crazy about (Playing With Fire was ugh, not loving the Busta one with that weird xylophone beat ... ) but for the most part it's pretty sweet

max: i am, for a physical publication.

just scored a dl, two songs in, already in love.

ok i'm not as jazzed about these a milli lyrics/performance compared to original

"la la" is amazing

i think "shoot me down" is my favorite track here after like 20 more listens

its all so good though

http://itsanother1.blogspot.com/2008/05/thank-god-this-is-finally-leaking.html

love the reggae feel + spaghetti western guitar on 'shoot me down'

"nothin on me" is up as "you aint got nuthin on me" on itunes as a single

"You better think before you ribbit."

^^^ Welcome to vocab.

don't get murdered over your song before you ad-lib it

srsly tho fabo + juelz verses are insane insane insane

i pop up like xzibit
but given im at your crib it's
not to put no fuckin fish tank in your civic

and all she want me to do is fuck the police

I still didn't really believe he was going to use the cover until I picked it up today.

I listened to this 5 times yesterday, so good.

Love the Juelz verses on Nothin on Me. The MLK assassination lines on Playin with Fire are like whoa.

If I was in college, I'd write a paper called "To the left, to the left: Subversive intertextuality in Lil Wayne's Tha Carter III"

And you know what they say, when you great it’s not murder it’s assassinate
So assassinate me bitch cuz I’m doing the same shit Martin Luther King did
Checkin in the same hotel, in the same suite bitch
Same balcony like “Assassinate me bitch!”

I still didn't really believe he was going to use the cover until I picked it up today.

-- jim, Thursday, June 5, 2008 1:25 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

...june 10

vermonter I THINK THATS A SELF ABSORBED LYRIC IMHO

jordan why u wishin weezy sells a bunch of records he is mean and doesnt even know it!!!!!!

weezy + jeezy = new rap era

get used to it or listen to white people music

Posted by: JeezCheez at June 4, 2008 11:23 PM

your a douche ball and a half

Posted by: weezy my dude at June 5, 2008 12:22 AM

weezy + jeezy = white people music

get with it duuuuude

Posted by: nyc-everything at June 5, 2008 12:26 AM

I still didn't really believe he was going to use the cover until I picked it up today.

-- jim, Thursday, June 5, 2008 1:25 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

...june 10

-- J0rdan S., Thursday, June 5, 2008 9:47 PM (32 minutes ago)

http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowacdbeforereleasedatepr7.jpg

Oh hey, I'm shitty at posting jpegs. Or imageshack is crap.

http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowacdbeforereleasedatepr7.jpg

exclusive bonus track, eh?

Sticker goes on to say "insert this cd into your computer and go to www.lilwayuk.com to download your free bonus track "action".

Which actually I hadn't noticed 'til you told me. Thanks.