Best track on "Buzz Cuts: 30 of the Biggest Alternative Rock Hits of All Time"

Everytime I see the commercial, I think "this really would be my own personal hell".

Still, I can't help liking the songs by Fuel and Lifehouse.

1997-2003 was apparently the hayday of alt-rock?

This CD is the reason why the genre is so hated.

I still like "I Miss You" and "Sour Girl."

Voted for "Butterfly" by Crazytown.

Also like these (of the ones I know, anyway):

Kryptonite - Three Doors Down
Sour Girl - Stone Temple Pilots
I Will Buy You A New Life - Everclear

And oh yeah:

Celebrity Skin - Hole

Didn't hate "Smooth Criminal" at the time, either.

hole innit

hole vs. lit vs. sugar ray

altho i don't hate last resort by papa roach either, actually i like a bunch of these songs despite my better judgement.

"Celebrity Skin" is the best Hole song and "Lakini's Juice" is the best Live song.

And neither of them sound like Hole or Live!

I actually really like "My Own Worst Enemy".

That Bush song is pretty nice too actually.

all complete shit

this is nearly impossible

voted sum 41

I actually really like "My Own Worst Enemy".

Yeah, I forgot about this one.. Guilty pleasure.

Damn. I believe this is the worst compilation tracklist I have ever seen. Clearly, the one redeeming virtue in this miasma of suck is Fastball's "The Way."

"Sour Girl" is basically the only listenable one here.

top 5:
Fat Lip - Sum 41
Hanging Around - Counting Crows
Smooth Criminal - Alien Ant Farm
Lakini's Juice - Live
Send The Pain Below - Chevelle

I'm sure I've heard most of these and for the life of me can't recall what a single song sounds like. Is there such a thing as musical PTSD? Who in the world would buy this?

This disc features some of the worst, most banal songs I've ever heard.

there are 5-6 stone cold classics on here

Fat Lip - Sum 41
Last Resort - Papa Roach
Smooth Criminal - Alien Ant Farm
Butterfly - Crazytown
My Own Worst Enemy - Lit
Fly - Sugar Ray feat. SuperCat

"Celebrity Skin" and "Fly" by some distance.

This is pretty much a Nuggets for late-90s/early-00s rock music. Nobody remembers any of these songs and yet they all were hits. And most of them were one-hit wonders.

Replace "The Chemicals Between Us" and "Sour Girl" with "Teenage Dirtbag" by Wheatus and "Flavor of the Week" by American Hi-Fi and it'd be even better.

Best song: "Wherever You Will Go"

i cringe every time i hear the name 'hoobastank'.

actually, now that i look at it, all but just a couple of the band names here are really awful.

Celebrity Skin or Butterfly...but really this is like the ladies competing to win Bret Michaels on Rock of Love.

This is pretty much a Nuggets for late-90s/early-00s rock music. Nobody remembers any of these songs and yet they all were hits. And most of them were one-hit wonders.

Anyone who 'doesn't remember' these is lying or was in some never-neverland devoid of radios and TV from 1997-2004. Except for three of four, even if you don't recognize the song immediately, you should be able to remember the band.

It should be called "Buzz Cuts, 30 of the biggest post-grunge hits of all time" and people wouldn't be inclined to hate it so much.

Hole, easy, but I don't know the blink 182. The STP song is ok.

That will probably be the only time in my life that my eyes actually lit up at Stone Temple Pilots as a choice in a "best track" poll.

The only name I don't recognize is Finch.

I spent a lot of evenings "voicetracking" our alternative rock weekends back in the early part of this here century. Since I was voicetracking, I usually only heard the last ten seconds of each song.

This is about the time that my passion for music kinda died.

However, if I have to pick one, I'd go for "Last Resort" by Papa Roach. That little "durh-na-nuh-na-na-nuh-nuh" guitar line was the tits and it's the only song from this list that my band ever covered (as a drunken joke.)

Also kudos to Papa Roach for having that video for "Broken Home" where they actually break a home.

god, this CD is packed fulla shit

i am pretty sure there was a as seen on tv buzz collection that covered the early to mid 90s

ok yeah, theres buzz ballads and killer buzz collections too

Buzz Ballads

I had a mid-90s MTV Buzz CD w/ Bush and a bunch of grunge also-rans.

i like a lot of these songs, but i'm blanking on a some of them. i don't remember how that live song goes at all.

this one - which is actually better than I remember

xp - it's the one that sounded just like every Live song

mtv partys to go > buzz bins

did the video have a swimming pool? off to youtube!

Party to Go Vol. 1 - MC Hammer, Bel Biv Devoe, Paula Abdul, Tony! Toni! Tone!. . . Depeche Mode.

+ tom's diner, knockin boots and the humpty dance

you cant really fuck w/that

Were the Nuggets songs really hits back in the day? I mean, really?

And I agree with Milo - if you claim to not remember these songs then you've got your head jammed so far up your hipster little asshole that there's no hope for you. You're a jackass for life.

Uh, I don't know about that.

I remember all of those songs, because I was in high school/undergrad at the time and it was kind of hard to miss.

But in a decade, when they're doing awful compilations of 2004-2008, I will claim truthfully that I don't remember the songs, because I have one channel on my television, I don't drive/listen to radio while driving, and I do most of my shopping online and don't hear pop hits while I buy jeans or something. Why is it so impossible to believe that you can live in a way that doesn't include being familiar with every shitty hit?

"Sour Girl" is like the only STP song I actively listen to. Let's go with that.

"Last Resort" was pretty classic when my science teacher blasted it during a test.

Foo Fighters?
New Radicals?
Smash Mouth?
Harvey Danger?

not sludgy enough

"What It is To Burn - Finch"

?????????????

"Whereever You Will Go - The Calling"

??????????????????

those are the only two bands/songs that i've never actually heard of before. i must have been asleep when they were big.

lol this commercial is on right now

i voted for butterfly. but if the stp song had been big bang baby i would have voted for that. and i do like that everclear song a bunch too.

"You're a jackass for life."

I guess I'm a jackass. I'll have to vote for Fly since that's one I do remember. I haven't really paid attention to the radio or MTV in years.

voted for Hole, but the Everclear song is good and "Fly" is catchy as hell and thus worth something too.

voted eve 6 cuz nobody else will

Blink 182 but I like "Sour Girl" too.

if the stp song had been big bang baby i would have voted for that

Yeah, what's weird about the inclusion of STP and Everclear and Hole here is that they all had a bunch of good hits (and near-hits), and these aren't their best ones. The Counting Crows choice seems really weird to me, too -- If it was "Mr. Jones" or "A Long December," I probably would have voted for them over Crazytown. And uh, where the heck are the Spin Doctors (and Candlebox, and Blind Melon, and 4 Non Blondes, and Local H, and at least one token Collective Soul song, etc...though maybe those were all too early?) And I have no idea who Finch or the Calling are, either (and though I vaguely have an idea of who Three Days Grace and Chevelle are, I'm not sure I've ever knowingly heard a song by either band.) (Our Lady Peace, too, come to think of it -- Aren't they, like, huge in Canada or something?)

where the heck are the Spin Doctors (and Candlebox, and Blind Melon, and 4 Non Blondes, and Local H

this is mostly a late 90s/2000s comp

obviously the title would imply otherwise but its obvious who they're aiming for, and it isn't people who were around to hear candlebox or 4 non blondes on alternative rock radio

Yeah, I kinda got that idea, though without checking all of their release dates, there does seem to be a smattering of pre-late 90s songs on there. (Guess the era explains the lack of "Hey Man Nice Shot" and Stabbing Westward too, though. A damn shame.)

xp Though I guess Live and Blink 182 and a few of the others have a ton of hits, too. (Really, one reason I don't buy the Nuggets comparison is that so many of these bands aren't one hit wonders.)

god, did they really need to dredge these clunkers out for a new compilation? went with 'sour girl' by absolute rule of default

it isn't people who were around to hear candlebox or 4 non blondes on alternative rock radio

But don't, say, Counting Crows and Papa Roach have way different audiences? I could be wrong, though.

I would choose sweet death of deafness.

yeah some of these inclusions are head-scratchers

well i just looked it up and that counting crows song and the papa roach one both charted within a year of each other so i guess there could be some overlap there

they wanted the crows name but wanted something in the target late 90s/early 2000s period i guess

Our Lady Peace, too, come to think of it -- Aren't they, like, huge in Canada or something?

Yes. (In Buffalo too.)

Still, I can't help liking the songs by Fuel and Lifehouse.

If that's the case, Johnny, then you're already in Hell.

[/Alex in NYC without his thesaurus]

voted eve 6 cuz nobody else will

not true, it's the only song on this list I can listen to for more than 3 seconds (except maybe "Blurry," but I am too proud to vote for Puddle of fucking Mudd)

"I Miss You," easy.

lol i was thinking of making this poll

there is not a single song I like on this list, how sad is that

was in some never-neverland devoid of radios and TV from 1997-2004

hmmm well it is true that I never listen to the radio, and between '97 and '04 I didn't have cable so... yeah, I lived in a never neverland where the music was different.

If that's the case, Johnny, then you're already in Hell.
hahahahaha

At the time, there were lots people who actually had good musical taste backing up that Everclear record, which never made sense to me.. For me they always sounded as derivative as Creed.

fly is the shit btw

-- and what, Friday, February 22, 2008 6:18 AM (Friday, February 22, 2008 6:18 AM) Bookmark Link

I will rep for the Everclear album that has "Santa Monica" and "My Black Girlfriend" on it (Sparkle & Fade, I think -- not pretend forgetfulness; more like lazy anti-Googleness). I will not rep for the VH1-baiting nah-nah-nah-nah bullshit they came up with following that.

I recognize the Hole and Three Doors Down songs.
I've heard of all the bands but Finch and The Calling and
I voted... Hole

i have to put on my alex in nyc hat and say that this is

PISS MARINATED HORSE-SHIT FROM THE FIRST MICROSECOND TO THE LAST

except for the fastball song. i kinda like the chorus on that.

"voted eve 6 cuz nobody else will"

That's because of two things: "the lack thereof" in the opening lyrics, and that I thought "My Own Worst Enemy" was them, and when it wasn't, I couldn't vote for them.

I voted for Live, because I remembered hearing that song on the radio and being briefly appreciative that Live had gotten weird for a moment.

(And man, this is, like, a huge collection of ungoogle-able names: Live, Lit, Hole, Fastball, Bush, Fuel).

lit hole bush fuel, there's some symmetry there

voted for 'fly', which is really the only really good song on here

Ahh...the sweet remembrance of junior high....

My Own Worst Enemy - Lit

At least this is kinda fun.

"Fly" is doody.

is that a good or bad thing?

doody is feces. i guess thats up to you.

ah ok. It's one of my favorite songs ever. I'm sorry you don't share my joy in it.

I have no idea what any of these songs are:

I'd Do Anything - Simple Plan
What It is To Burn - Finch
Meant To Live - Switchfoot
Somewhere Out There - Our Lady Peace
I Hate Everything About You - Three Days Grace
Inside Out - Eve 6
Send The Pain Below - Chevelle
Whereever You Will Go - The Calling

I've heard of the bands (except Finch, wtf?), and might recognize them if I were to hear them, but don't have any memory of them. I stopped having cable in 2000 and stopped listening to any radio other than NPR and the local college station so I had very little contact with a whole lot of music.

I know all the others though, and at best I kind of like some of them. Others make me want to kill. Others, like "Fly" seemed so fucking terrible at the time but ten years later aren't really that bad. Butterfly is still the vilest thing ever though.

Okay, to be fair, I liked "Fly" for a month or 2. It got annoying quickly to me after I realized the lyrics are about nothing, and that guitar bit has not aged well at all. However, I have good memories of the 2-month span when I didn't hate this song. It started out the 1st side of a mix I made when I first started driving, of songs pulled off the radio and from vhs's of 120 minutes.. which is the show where I first heard this song. The song after this was "Not An Addict," and then "Paranoid Android" taped before I heard the rest of OK Computer. True story.

Sorry to get argumentative, but who ever said songs have to be about anything? Especially when so many of the lines are great in their own right?

(Excuse my ignance, but what is "Not an Addict"?)

the Fastball song really isn't that bad.

if you are listening to fly and the thought pops into your mind that the lyrics are about nothing you've already lost

No, it isn't. "Butterfly," however, is like aural herpes xp

Sugar Ray are awful and I hate "Fly"

btw a good portion of this album is the soundtrack to me getting beat up in middle school so I may be biased

<X3 <X3 <X3 Crutis : (

'not an addict' is a track by k's choice. i owned that album, and that single was the only worthwhile thing on it.

they wanted the crows name but wanted something in the target late 90s early 2000s period i guess

Ding ding ding. That also explains these tracks, by no means their bands' biggest hits (I could be wrong about Sour Girl??):

Sour Girl - Stone Temple Pilots
Lakini's Juice - Live
The Chemicals Between Us - Bush
I Will Buy You A New Life - Everclear
Somewhere Out There - Our Lady Peace
"I Miss You" - Blink-182

"I Miss You" is the weirdest one - they surely had WAY bigger hits, in the target time period... at the same time, I kinda wish they took this logic further, a collection of everybody's half-as-popular followup singles would be a much fresher/less-overplayed time capsule. "Zip-Loc" for Lit, "Is Anybody Home?" for Our Lady Peace, "Awful" for Hole, all kinds of weird singles for STP, "In Too Deep" for Sum 41...

As for what's good here, I think a lot, although yeah obv a ridiculous tracklist and a ridiculous title. I like all of these:

Fat Lip - Sum 41
I Miss You - Blink 182
Celebrity Skin - Hole
Hanging Around - Counting Crows
Lakini's Juice - Live
Hemorrhage (In My Hands) - Fuel
My Own Worst Enemy - Lit
Inside Out - Eve 6
Fly - Sugar Ray feat. SuperCat

...and I liked "Kryptonite" OK at the time. Nine songs I wouldn't change the channel on isn't exactly a gold stamp of approval, but there's worse stuff out there.

"Butterfly" > "Fly"

^^^

True. Not even close.

After youtubing about two thirds of these, it seems the only one I didn't recognize was the Everclear song, surprisingly.

Celebrity Skin is the only enjoyable song here. All the others make me want to dig out my ear wax with an icepick.

surely i'm not the only person on ILM who likes switchfoot's "meant to live"?

i also like the hole and STP songs and might like a few more if i had any idea what they were.

I kind of like "Meant To Live," but I like Switchfoot's other singles (especially "Oh! Gravity") better.

I heard "Inside Out" on the radio yesterday, it was a LIVE ACOUSTIC version :(

I love "Meant to Live". I might have voted for it but I didn't notice it on the list TBH.

I'm not sure I know any other Switchfoot.

"Dare You To Move" was about as big a hit as "Meant To Live," and I liked "Stars" and the aforementioned "Oh! Gravity" but they were much less popular.

Actually, after listening to both, I think I'd still vote for "I Miss You" over "Meant to Live". MTL plods a little. The Blink arrangement is more interesting. Blink 182 doesn't actually have any excuse to drop the "h" in "head" though, do they?

Just saw this commercial tonight! Not to be Tuomas, butr seriously, why do Blink 182 pronounce every word in a bizarre way? Where does this come from?

Can't believe people rep for "Own Worst Enemy." I can't think of an individual song I hate more than that one.

the good Eve 6 song

There are Brosephs all over that video.

"Here's to the Night" is fucking terrible. "Inside Out" is great.

I'm guessing it's a forced Cockney accent (or something?), roxy?? But I only notice it when he sings "'ead", which makes it even more maddening. At least Billy Talent make some effort at consistency.

the ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfuW0n7UmhQ

Celebrity Skin > I Miss You > The Way

I don't quite get Hole's inclusion on this. It's a bit like that old Sesame Street game "Which one of these is different than the other?" innit? That said, I think this is prolly the only poll I'd ever vote for Hole.

Just saw this commercial tonight! Not to be Tuomas, butr seriously, why do Blink 182 pronounce every word in a bizarre way? Where does this come from?

LOL. Southern California.

Oh my GOD, do people actually talk like that there?!

They say "bo-ee-i" instead of boy?

my own worst enemy, ftw

xp - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrwK4iuS4VA&feature=related

Ha, I have seen this commercial too many times and I rarely watch TV. I love the way the announcer says "DO IT NOW" at the very end.

Anyway, I'd say that I know more than half of these songs and I voted for My Own Worst Enemy. That's the only one I hum along with when the commercial comes on.

the intro to "Blurry" is really a guilty pleasure for me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGmrL2h8lrE

man. this was the soundtrack to my first year of college.

I think "My Own Worst Enemy" is enjoyable if taken as more pop and less rock, which is the same way I'm able to enjoy (or even love) songs like "Flavor Of The Weak" or "Just The Girl" or "Stacy's Mom."

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Awful and horrible... yet I could POV and be happy...

Celebrity Skin
Sour Girl
The Chemicals Between Us
Hanging By A Moment
Hemorrhage (In My Hands)

I voted for one of those.

The Chemicals Between Us - Bush
Smooth Criminal - Alien Ant Farm
Higher - Creed

This sequence inspired fear and trembling.

is any of this even "alternative" rock? what were they alternative to? this was chart rock in the late 90's, most of these bands i wouldn't classify as being alternative at all.

anyone who voted "butterfly" needs to be taken out back and shot in the face. there is nothing ironic or cool or funny about liking that gigantic turd of a song. easily one of the worst pop songs of my lifetime, i would rather listen to just about anything else than that song.

my jams on here:

Kryptonite - Three Doors Down
My Own Worst Enemy - Lit
Inside Out - Eve 6
Fly - Sugar Ray feat. SuperCat

everything else is shit that makes me change the dial when it comes on. out of those 4, really it has to be Eve 6. which is sad. i love me some STP and even some Hole, but their representative tracks were from their poop albums. disliking sugar ray is also just retarded, i wish they were still putting out a summer jam every year.

^^ this post is full of fail

concentrated shit, almost all of it. the lit song is okay though.

Also kudos to Papa Roach for having that video for "Broken Home" where they actually break a home.

This has been cracking me up all morning.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

WOW

oh come on this is not surprising at all

have you ever checked a Hole thread. lots of courtney love around here.

Rule 259: It's Always Courtney's Fault.

have you ever checked a Hole thread. lots of courtney love around here. the rest of the shit on that comp?

-- Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 31 March 2008 23:17 (Yesterday) Link

jesus...

omg

nfw

Anyone who 'doesn't remember' these is lying or was in some never-neverland devoid of radios and TV from 1997-2004.

...or lives in the uk/not america. i count 21 songs that didn't even make the slightest mark in england.

all those songs are terrible except "celebrity skin," but that doesn't mean it isn't pretty great.. the whole album is great.

that has to be one of Hole's worst songs. i guess i only really like the album that Kurt wrote anyway, but man i hate that track in particular.

dude across from me in the library right now is listening to "smooth criminal" on his headphones VERY LOUDLY

sounds fucking awesome tho

God, I accidentally played that as bumper music at the station the other day and was humiliated.

this is bullshit.... thats like the 15th dopest song on here

Can someone hum a few bars of "Lakini's Juice"?

ethan do you mean the hole song?

Corgan wins again.

Butterfly - Crazytown 4

Who ARE you people?

Can someone hum a few bars of "Lakini's Juice"?

Bra DANNG da dik
Bra DANNG da dik
Bra DANNG da dik
ba DUND do DEWW,

(repeat for a while, then get slow n spooky in prep for the chorus:)

doo, doo do doodle oodle doo, doooooo dooooooooooooo

LET ME RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE
BURN MY EYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYES

(etc)

OMG

Yes. I do know this song.

Love will lead us, alright, love will leave your shit with me

that has to be one of Hole's worst songs. i guess i only really like the album that Kurt wrote anyway, but man i hate that track in particular

I assume you have documentary evidence. Wait, never mind -- plenty of paranoid documentaries already exist.

"I assume you have documentary evidence. Wait, never mind -- plenty of paranoid documentaries already exist.

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn"

all i need is ears. listen to everything else Hole ever did, and listen to what Nirvana did and you tell me which catalogue "Live Through This" sounds more like.

"Lakini's Juice" is so fucking awesome.

Since Courtney Love's lyrics read nothing like Cobain's and are often more coherent and make some literal sense, I'm prepared to give her more credit, especially when they show no sign of slackening on Celebrity Skin. I've always wished In Utero, fine though it is, was as fine song for song as LTT.

(xpost)

CL is a vastly better lyricist than both the people who are alleged to have written all her songs

People who believe she was her husband's puppet either (a) can't reconcile "Entertainment Tonight" crackup stories and good songwriting, and (b) have strange notions of how artistic influence works.

i think you guys need to lay off the heroin.

U ARE BORING

list of good posters who've gotten duped into arguing with pipecock:

tim f.
alfred, lord sotosyn
moonship journey to baja

i count 21 songs that didn't even make the slightest mark in england.

QUIT BRAGGING.

wtf, I have really distinct memories of writing a lengthy defense of "Broken Home" and posting them on this thread last night. Shit!

list of good posters who've gotten duped into arguing with pipecock:

tim f.
alfred, lord sotosyn
moonship journey to baja

-- J0rdan S., Tuesday, April 1, 2008 11:16 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

i count 1 1/2 good posters here

"i count 1 1/2 good posters here

-- and what"

thats about 12/8 more than i saw.