Worst song on the rub's 1999 history of hip hop mix

Black Rob

'99 was pretty good!

"Whoa" is a great song, Dom unexpectedly offtm

Uh, "Breathe and Stop", which I don't even hate or anything. I'm sure there's probably worse among those I haven't heard.

thats not even close to worst

is it jurassic 5?

xp: I haven't heard it a long time, so maybe I'd like it more if I heard it now, but gutfeel, etc.

I hate "Southern Grammar" a whole lot, about as much as "My Name Is..."

I'm sure there are a few ass-suckers that escaped my attention, though.

voted handsome boy modeling school cuz boy did i overreact to that shit but really my answer is probably the busta/janet

i don't know that choclair song

that hbms track is great, and i only like it more after listening to that kashmere stage band collection all last summer.

"southern grammar" is pretty good i think

lol i mean country grammar obv

misquoting oilyrags

ok i thought i was missing some joke or something

country grammar is a jam. in fact nelly's whole first album is awesome. do ppl forget that he used to be able to actually rap?

From broke to havin bro-kers my price Range is Rover
Now I'm knockin like Jehovah

A lot of this shit is 2000

are you sure? it might have been on albums from '00 but the singles usually dropped earlier

All these were singles in 2000.

Nelly "Country Grammar (Hot Shit)"
Black Rob "Whoa"
DMX "Party Up"
dead prez "Hip-Hop"
Dr. Dre "Forgot About Dre" feat. Eminem
Jay-Z "Big Pimpin'" feat. UGK

sorry to question the rub, deej.

jay-z and dre albums dropped in 1999, but those weren't singles until 2000. I am aspie about this.

if albums were 99 it works the same way

im hardly captain save-a-rub dude but lol @ you lecturing me about defending ny hipster djs

if albums were 99 it works the same way

bullshit, but whatever.

either way, nelly, black rob, dead prez... no excuses. Wu-Tang was 2000 for fucking sure.

If these guys are gonna be aspie DJs, they should at least do a nominal google search.

Your aspie is wrong. dead prez was def. originally '99.

OK, me totally offTM on Dead Prez, but I stand by the other ones, including the Jay-Z and Dre

country grammar, definitely '99
http://www.discogs.com/release/514507

i think the album = '99, even if it came out as a 12" in 2000 is totally fair because its not like big pimpin wasnt a huge deal after the album dropped but before it had a video on a yacht

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_Grammar_%28Hot_Shit%29

Wiki has it at 2000

Haha that's the promo deej.

i cant explain the black rob thing

if it had a promo it was getting radio spins!

Dude, Jay-Z Vol 3 dropped on Dec 28, 1999. Because the Rub guys supposedly bumped that shit on the daily for the three days left of the year, I'm not buyin it.

i dont think this is like 'best rap releases that you could cop in the 12" format during this particular year,' and this kind of pedantry is lame

Also, "country grammar" is intimately associated with the summer of 2000 no matter if three college stations were playing the promo in 1999. Come on!

"if it had a promo it was getting radio spins!"

Hahaha that's some lame logic and possibly not even true.

hey wait, this is from wikipedia:

These guest appearances earned him a media buzz and he kept attention with the smash hit single "Whoa!". Following this, the album Life Story was released in 1999 and rose above Platinum sales.

"if it had a promo it was getting radio spins!"

Hahaha that's some lame logic and possibly not even true.

-- Alex in SF, Monday, April 21, 2008 5:33 PM (23 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

how is it lame logic and promo 12s are exactly what they sent to my college radio station, never mind big name djs in cities

Except it was released in 2000 so people be dumb on wikipedia.

wikipedia:

Singles

* "Whoa!"
o Release date: June 6, 2000

"how is it lame logic and promo 12s are exactly what they sent to my college radio station, never mind big name djs in cities"

If you can show me that "County Grammar" was tearing up radio in 1999, I'll shut up, but most normal people associate it with the next year when it was ALL OVER THE RADIO and actually commercially released.

for real

according to MTV

http://www.mtv.com/music/artist/black_rob/1395980/lyrics.jhtml
* Song Name: Whoa!
* Artist Name: Black Rob
* Album: Life Story
* Songwriters: Anthony Best, Harve Pierre, Roberto Ross
* Release Date: 1999.09.28
* Label: Bad Boy Entertainment

If you can show me that "County Grammar" was tearing up radio in 1999, I'll shut up, but most normal people associate it with the next year when it was ALL OVER THE RADIO and actually commercially released.

-- Alex in SF, Monday, April 21, 2008 5:36 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

yeah and 'still tippin' is from 2005, 'independent' is from 2008, etc etc etc

And just because shit exists of d-dot's hard drive doesn't mean it should associated with that year in a long term "history" project.

If you were making me a year by year hip-hop mix, I would want "Still Tippin" on 2005, yes.

does a song really exist if no one's playing it?

yes 'no one' was playing still tippin in 2003 or 2004

if people who dont normally listen to rap havent heard it, it doesnt exist!

but EVERYONE was playing it in 2005.

deej that's not the same though, because plenty of people were listening to "Still Tippin" earlier because it actually got released earlier!

Everything else sez 2000 so I don't know what MTV is on about.

looking at conflicting dates on the black rob both for single and album, pretty sure they just issued both the 12" and CD in '99 and probably had to repress in 2000 due to demand

http://cgi.ebay.com/Black-Rob-Whoa-12-Hot-Single-MB_W0QQitemZ170166726119QQihZ007QQcategoryZ306QQcmdZViewItem
Release Date: 1999

http://www.amazon.ca/Life-Story-Ex-Black-Rob/dp/B00000K51T
Original Release Date: Sep 28 1999

Whoa! | Black Rob | VH1.com
Song Name: Whoa! Artist Name: Black Rob. Album: Life Story. Songwriter(s): Anthony Best, Harve Pierre, Roberto Ross. Release Date: September 9, 1999 ...

in canada maybe.

i'm refusing to buy the myth of these guys as magic promo-gathering excel spreadsheet wizards.

Weird same ASIN number on amazon.ca and amazon.com, but completely different release dates.

i have real non-aspie work to do now :(

i just think its not surprising that some DJs when making a mix of a certain year are probably going to use records the year they got them and started spinning them, not the year that they made it to little Madison from the burbs' graduation party

Were these guys really spinning in 1999?

I'd honestly be shocked if these dudes weren't attending little Madison's party in 1999

cosmo baker did this one. im guessing yes? i dont really know how old he is

Write him and ask him, deej! Tell him your name is Madison! He's sure to remember you.

Already established in Philly as one of the top DJs by the mid nineties, Cosmo moved to New York...

if you guys are gonna keep trying to zing me maybe you should try being right first

Woah woah wait wait Wikipedia sez he wasn't established til 98!?! WHICH ONE IS CORRECT!

The only Rub I fucks with in New York is Righteous Urban Barbecue on 23rd St.

hey guys, this is a really interesting thread!!!!!

-- Tape Store, Friday, March 28, 2008 10:23 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Link

im guessing his official bio xxp

black rob]
Yo Im gettin ready to put yall up on somethin man
(whats goin on yo)
Yo, when you see somethin ill (uh-huh)
Knahmean? that shit is whoa (thats what whoa means)
Anything ill you see is whoa (uh-huh)
Nigga have a big 6 at the curb thats whoa (okay? )
Especially if he got the fully equipped kit on it; its whoa
Like youknowhatimean? like yo..

I had this bad bitch uptown, she was whoa!
Had me fucked up in the head I mean whoa!
Bought the bitch diamonds and pearls I mean whoa!
Shoulda seen them shits shinin on her wrist, whoa!
Now money aint a problem, see my dough is like whoa!
Pulled out my bankroll on yall niggaz like whoa!
Floss the blue shrimp from two-tenth like whoa!
Faggot wanna peep my blueprints, Im like whoa!
Had to hit the brakes on yall niggaz like whoa!
Niggaz gettin pulled on my block like whoa!
Comin home within a half an hour like whoa!
Frontin like they had the manpower like whoa! more or less
More or so, Ill rip your torso
I live the fast life, come through in the porshe slow like whoa!
My niggaz - like dough, light dro
Nitro, might flow, nice clothes like whoa!

{*inhales through nose*} ease pain with cocaine like whoa!
Now Im doc strange in the range like whoa! (they dont know me)
Hundred miles an hour, switchin lanes like whoa!
Plus Im gettin brain from this chick like whoa!
Finger near a nigga asshole like whoa!
Scene floss riches and bitches like whoa!
Nine-nine jag benz coupe like whoa!
Keep them cheese lines on youe blocks like whoa!
Grenade through your window bitch, like whoa!
Love to see me do this shit, like whoa!
Niggaz put me through this shit, like whoa!
So ima go toe to toe, blow for blow like whoa!
And rip your torso
Live the fast life, come through in the porshe slow like whoa!
My niggaz - like dough, light dro
Nitro, might flow, nice clothes like whoa!

We bag it, then flip it like whoa!
Cars we jack it then strip it like whoa!
Fully equip it, front to back, like whoa!
Spittin on fiends that come for crack like whoa!
Askin for shorts and shit nigga like whoa!
Half on his krunk, now nigga thats whoa!
Flow so properly youll see Im whoa!
Aint no stoppin me, Im deep like whoa!
Guns be poppin b, we creep like whoa!
Hear my name in these streets its like whoa!
Must I pound the concrete like whoa!
Fill his bitch ass, head to feet like whoa!
Your man aint whoa! the judge aint whoa!
C.o.s aint whoa! p.o.s aint whoa!
Play yallself I get the g.i. joe
D-i-c, k riders aint whoa!
Ill rip your torso
Live the fast life, come through in the porshe slow like whoa!
My niggaz - like dough, light dro
Nitro, might flow, nice clothes like whoa!

Niggaz gettin money in va is whoa!
Honies lookin right in atl is whoa!
Niggaz pimpin hoes in chi-town is whoa!
Bitches takin paper in l.a. is whoa!
Niggaz stacking dough in d.c. is whoa!
P.r. d.r. hold me down like whoa!
Ballers in detroit hold me down like whoa!
Niggaz in new orleans gettin money is whoa!
Boston and jersey, muhfuckers is whoa!
Florida niggaz and philly niggaz is whoa!
Tampa and texas, cleveland is whoa!
Memphis and lil rock, my niggaz is whoa!
Panama niggaz they hold me down like whoa!
My new york peoples they hold me down like whoa!
Bad boy nigga, word is bond we whoa!
Alumni bitches, word is bond we whoa!

N.c, s.c., motherfuckers is whoa!
My nigga buckwild, word is bond he whoa!
Uhh.. and thats just how the story go..

And whoever I forgot on this shit is, whoa!
Aww man, whoa!
Eighth street, life stories (whoa!)
P.d.p.r., that nigga..
The beat I got from big buckwild is whoa!
That nigga black rob on the mic is whoa!
My whole fuckin flow on the mic is whoa!

^^^you should totally go back to arguing whether this came out in '99 or '00

i took a 'contemporary african american literature' class in college where one student had to read the lyrics to that and the rest of the class would say "whoa!" at the end of every line

everything the right says about american college professors is true

"had to"

The teacher ACTUALLY forced the student(s) to do this? Also what year did this happen? ;)

haha one of our 'texts' was this book of rap lyrics:
http://www.amazon.com/Hip-Hop-Rap-Complete-Lyrics-Songs/dp/063404964X/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208818709&sr=1-2

;_;

While I read some fairly unconvential things at school (haha I read a book by Steven Barnes!) even I have to agree that's a pretty stupid book to assign.

For a literature class that is. For a class on hip hop, it would obv be totally appropriate.

wow you guys picked a release date pedantry fight so stupid even I wouldn't bother wiht it.

anyway the answer is Mos Def "Umi Says"

so that's how deej got into hip-hop

(i was waiting for someone to pick umi says. easy target.)

class reading of 'whoa' changed my life

i think that thirstin howl song is pretty awful

it's an easy target because wtf is the beginning of Mos Def: Balladeer doing on a hip hop mix anyway, Jordan?

not the worst, though, I missed "Girls Best Friend," fuck that song.

DMX "What These Bitches Want" feat. Sisqo

obviously the worst

i'm sure my worst would be the backpacker shit i've never heard if i knew it, but this is my bottom 10 of stuff i just have no desire to ever hear again:

Ol' Dirty Bastard "Got Your Money" feat. Kelis
Eminem "My Name Is"
Busta Rhymes "What's It Gonna Be!?" feat. Janet Jackson
Hot Boys "I Need A Hot Girl" feat. Big Tymers
Ja Rule "Holla Holla"
dead prez "Hip-Hop"
Jay-Z "Girls Best Friend"
DMX "Party Up"
Q-Tip "Let's Ride"
B.G. "Bling Bling"

thats crazy

i am tired of 'party up' kinda but most of those aged well to me. 'got your money' is overplayed but when it comes on at a club or party or whatever im still cool with it

i saw dmx do 'party up' this summer on a stack of amps like 12 ft tall it was cool, but i don't really ever want to hear it again

the rest are basically still great alex is insane

Alex is nuts

i havent heard that partic. eminem song in so long i probably wouldnt even hate it now

'girls best friend' is pretty bad

wait no its not
lol blue streak soundtrack

the 'girls best friend' chorus is pretty good and it's from BLUE STREAK so w/e

"My Name Is" is like the third best rap song of 1999.

I have a list I'm working on :(

All those Eminem tracks are CLASSIC

i see whiney is biding his time until its appropriate to revive one of ilx's 7 million old i <3 eminem threads

I'm a real "Stan" stan

man a SERIOUS missing track from this is "U Can't Resist"

I need to post my Top 50 singles/Top 25 hip-hop albums of 1999 so you guys can tear it to shreds.

And we can argue about release dates some more.

XD

I ALREADY HAVE TO DO THE WHOLE FUCKING THING OVER AGAIN BECAUSE OF THIS WHOLE DEAD PREZ SITUATION

who are hobo junction???

LOOK HOW THEY FUCK UP YOUR TABLE XP

lol nerds

AND I STILL DON'T KNOW WHERE TO PUT BLACK ROB NOW FUCKKKKK

hiphop.xls is RUINED

These Rub guys play a party down the street from my house literally every month for four years. Should I go to it?

Also important: I don't drink, none of my friends listen to rap and I'm completely socially retarded.

j/k I'm BALLIN' OUTTA CONTROL

haha if you guys thought that list was nuts/crazy then it's a good thing I showed some restraint in leaving "Big Pimpin'" off. wasn't saying I hate or never liked those songs, just that I have a good 500 listens of each to last me for the rest of time.

although i really did never like "Got Your Money" or "My Name Is".

Whiney i'm sure in that great big city you can find a hip hop dance night not put on by DJs who have press photos that make them look like an emo band.

Most of the ones listed here that I recognize do not generate any guy reaction of hatred like I expected. Based on this list, I'd say 90's hiphop finished strong. I voted for Ja Rule because he ruined everything.

apparently I am more indifferent than hostile toward Nelly, since I can't even get the name of his song right.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

HOLY CALAMITY SCREAM INSANITY ALL YOU EVER GONNA BE IS ANOTHER BIG FAN OF ME

haha I don't mind holy calamity so much

Busta Rhymes "What's It Gonna Be!?" feat. Janet Jackson 1

whoever voted for that though .... good call

Busta really does make the worst R&B tracks of any major rapper of the past decade.

"What's It Gonna Be" rox u r all ghey

Holy Calamity is not bad.