How many bands on the Nurse With Wound List have you actually heard?

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The Nurse with Wound list is a list of musicians and bands that accompanied Chance Meeting on a Dissecting Table of a Sewing Machine and an Umbrella (1979), the first album by Nurse With Wound. The list was expanded with Nurse With Wound's second album, To the Quiet Men from a Tiny Girl.

The list was compiled by the original Nurse With Wound trio of Steven Stapleton, John Fothergill, and Heman Pathak. It was intended as a homage to the obscure artists which influenced the Nurse With Wound project. It has since become a type of 'shopping list' for collectors of outsider music. The list only included group names, and collectors have speculated on the specific albums which would have influenced Nurse With Wound. In a 1997 interview in UK magazine The Wire, Stapleton boasted that some of the names on the list were invented, a statement absolutely refuted by John Fothergill in David Keenan's book England's Hidden Reverse, published in 2003. Keenan, having researched the matter, declares Fothergill to be correct.

The full list is here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nurse_With_Wound_list

This is "heard" as in heard at least one album / a few tracks by, not just a 5 second blast or something. Be truthful now!

Poll Results

OptionVotes
51-75 24
31-40 19
21-30 10
41-50 9
11-20 8
76-100 8
101-150 5
1-10 3
200+ 2
151-200 2
0 0
All of them0


Matt #2, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:15 (seventeen years ago)

About 100 I think.

Matt #2, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:19 (seventeen years ago)

quick tally sayyyys.... 85.

ian, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:19 (seventeen years ago)

97! (xpost)

Tom D., Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:19 (seventeen years ago)

77

sexyDancer, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:20 (seventeen years ago)

72 or 73, I kind of lost count of one in the middle.

Pashmina, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:21 (seventeen years ago)

oh wait, 87. missed floh de cologne and michael mantler on the first pass.

ian, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:23 (seventeen years ago)

23 (skidoo)

bnw, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:25 (seventeen years ago)

Counting up again it's exactly 100, although a couple of those I've only heard their post-list recordings. Does that count?

Matt #2, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:25 (seventeen years ago)

95

briania, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:27 (seventeen years ago)

31-40
which i thought will win but now i see i'm on the minority

Zeno, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:27 (seventeen years ago)

Oh hold on, I've recounted and ended up with 107. That can't be right.

Tom D., Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:28 (seventeen years ago)

146. I never noticed Negativland was on there.

matinee, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:28 (seventeen years ago)

76-100.
My friend and bandmate's mother plays on the Anal Magic record. Dwight asked her to be the cover model, but she declined.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:29 (seventeen years ago)

didn't finish yet but I think i'll end up in 51-75. a lot of that is in the past year (<3 internet)

dmr, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:31 (seventeen years ago)

Good move that.
xpost

http://www.stalk.net/paradigm/images/06.jpg

Matt #2, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:32 (seventeen years ago)

106 certainly. and probably another 20 or so i've heard something by but cant recall exactly what it was...

though, at the end of the day, i don't much care for nww...

bb, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:32 (seventeen years ago)

i keep thinking i like that anal magic record more than i do

bb, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:33 (seventeen years ago)

99, after a second recount

Tom D., Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:34 (seventeen years ago)

70. or thereabouts. i'm surprised it's that many. but there are more normal people on that list than i remember. i'm pretty normal actually. there's tons of out-there weirdo stuff i've never heard.

scott seward, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:34 (seventeen years ago)

maybe i should recount too

Zeno, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:35 (seventeen years ago)

"White Noise" seems a major omission.

(from 41-50 person)

Mark G, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:36 (seventeen years ago)

"a lot of that is in the past year (<3 internet)"

see, this is one reason why i haven't heard a lot that stuff. i don't download music at all. and i can't afford the records. someone has to start NWWL Records and put out vinyl reissues of everything on there that isn't already in print or easily found.

scott seward, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:38 (seventeen years ago)

with so many blogs out there getting these records available, im surprised numbers arent higher

bb, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:38 (seventeen years ago)

Not as many saddoes out there as I thought obviously

Tom D., Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:39 (seventeen years ago)

with so many blogs out there getting these records available, im surprised numbers arent higher

That's because most of these records are nothing more than conversation pieces for noise kids.

QuantumNoise, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:43 (seventeen years ago)

In a bad way?

I wanna hear the Hairy Chapter albums.

gnarly sceptre, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:48 (seventeen years ago)

43. Just when I thought I was running out of things to download...

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:50 (seventeen years ago)

'bout 70, or samthung.

t**t, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:50 (seventeen years ago)

Huh - only 59 for me and I'm not so sure that's a bad thing - there's some just plain god-awful racket in about ten of those 59, so I can only assume the same would 1/6th rule would be true for rest of list.

BlackIronPrison, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:51 (seventeen years ago)

(I understand what you mean, QN. I'm just playing devil's advocate. I was just thinking it wouldn't be a bad thing if the word noise was subtracted from your statement.)

gnarly sceptre, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:51 (seventeen years ago)

I think a much more interesting poll would be how many of these people could you include on a compilation, and then the winner would actually make the comp.

libcrypt, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:53 (seventeen years ago)

I wanna hear the Hairy Chapter albums.
"Can't Get Through" is awesome.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:53 (seventeen years ago)

only ones I know:

Art Bears
Cabaret Voltaire
John Cage
Can
Captain Beefheart
Chrome
Crass
Faust
Flying Lizards
Fred Frith
Gong
Hampton Grease Band
Henry Cow
King Crimson
Kraftwerk
Steve Lacy
Mothers of Invention
Negativland
Neu!
Nico
Yoko Ono
Evan Parker and Paul Lytton
Pere Ubu
Plastic Ono Band
Public Image Ltd
Red Krayola
Steve Reich
The Residents
Sonny Sharrock
Soft Machine
Stooges
Tangerine Dream
Throbbing Gristle
Velvet Underground
James White and the Contortions
Robert Wyatt
La Monte Young
Frank Zappa

nicky lo-fi, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:55 (seventeen years ago)

Mutant Sounds = NWW List Turbo Edition

gnarly sceptre, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:56 (seventeen years ago)

Gave up on that place after a while

Tom D., Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:57 (seventeen years ago)

as conversation, every record ive heard has been great. as what i actually put on less than half would find their way from the stack.

hmmm perhaps i should do a nww mix later tonight...will post if done...then we can play the is that ghedahlia tazartes at 22 minutes game. will also force me to listen to a lot of this again and perhaps delete a few more

bb, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:58 (seventeen years ago)

I can verify that I have owned records by 67 of the folks on that list. How many I have heard, I dunno.

libcrypt, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 17:01 (seventeen years ago)

I haven't downloaded that much of it at all. In fact, I have no idea how much stuff is listed there in total. Seems enormous. And maybe I'm giving it more credit than it's due. It just seems like anytime I see discover something obscure looking and interesting and old in the store or on eBay, it's already posted there. All of 'em! But maybe some of it is obscure and unremarkable, rather than obscure and unmissable.

gnarly sceptre, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 17:01 (seventeen years ago)

xpost re Mutant Sounds

gnarly sceptre, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 17:02 (seventeen years ago)

Around 60. I'd heard of this list, but never bothered to look it up before. So, thanks!

augustgarage, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 17:03 (seventeen years ago)

70

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 17:05 (seventeen years ago)

21, and what's sad is that I thought this would be average...

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 17:17 (seventeen years ago)

I come in somewhere between 65 and 70. (I was scrolling fast.)

(I understand what you mean, QN. I'm just playing devil's advocate. I was just thinking it wouldn't be a bad thing if the word noise was subtracted from your statement.)

The reason why I poked fun at the noise kids is because I've heard so many rave about this 'n' that rare record on the NWW list. Then they give me their latest cassette, and it sounds like the last cassette I was given -- pure static! What I dig about this list is its diversity in sound. Sure, a lot of it is uber-obscure, but it's all over the map, sonically.

QuantumNoise, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 17:27 (seventeen years ago)

179. and not one of them wasn't worth the time/effort.

Mr. Hal Jam, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 17:36 (seventeen years ago)

can we pick favorites? I will rep for DEBRIS STATIC DISPOSAL

http://www.anthologyrecordings.com/images_cat/45_1_300.jpg

digital reissue w/ sound clips:
http://www.anthologyrecordings.com/release.asp?album=vJhj3ZB2IzM

dmr, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 17:36 (seventeen years ago)

That might be mine, too!

QuantumNoise, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 17:38 (seventeen years ago)

70 or so.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 17:42 (seventeen years ago)

hmm, I got 118. and that's without a couple that are probably slam dunks for most (I don't think I've ever heard Cabaret Voltaire, for example.)

and I don't think I ever sought out any of these records simply for being on the list. it's usually due to obsessive interest in a number of different specialist areas (Thud Rock, euro-improv, Krautrock, 20th century composition, etc)

Stormy Davis, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 17:49 (seventeen years ago)

heard: 70
enjoy: 40-ish

nerve_pylon, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 17:51 (seventeen years ago)

Damn, I've got some hunting to do. I'm only at 32.

Z S, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 17:57 (seventeen years ago)

130

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 18:13 (seventeen years ago)

i have records by 96 of them. i also never noticed negativland were on the list before. i didn't know they existed then!

stirmonster, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 18:35 (seventeen years ago)

can we pick favorites? I will rep for DEBRIS STATIC DISPOSAL
Yeah, I love that, too. But if there's one that I'm going to single out, it's gotta be Algarnas Tradgard.
http://therisingstorm.net/audio/algarnastradgard.jpg
THE FUTURE IS A HOVERING SHIP, ANCHORED IN THE PRESENT.
(same artist as the one who did Bo Hansson's first two records, he was in the band, too)

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 18:36 (seventeen years ago)

About 56-58 of those folks are currently represented by at least one LP in the collection; I've gotten rid of probably a dozen more.

Static Disposal love seconded!

Myonga Vön Bontee, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 18:37 (seventeen years ago)

this brings up an interesting question, how hasn't there been a compilation with a track from each of these groups so that everyone can say they've heard everything? Even the difficult to license stuff could probably have a track had from a release.

matinee, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 18:40 (seventeen years ago)

Fifty, though that's largely down to the collection of one particular friend.

Soukesian, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 18:44 (seventeen years ago)

Actually on my iPod and in legitimate rotation:

Mythos
Can
PIL
Stooges
Tangerine Dream
Velvet Underground

I've never heard Nurse With Wound!

Savannah Smiles, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 18:44 (seventeen years ago)

perhaps we should do a wee little comp of our own, xpost

bb, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 19:24 (seventeen years ago)

I love that he listed "Henty Cow" (sic).

Abbott, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 19:34 (seventeen years ago)

Anopheles are doing a second Static Disposal LP reissue soon, I believe. Not clear vinyl this time, but I missed out before, so I'll definitely be picking one up this time.

gnarly sceptre, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 19:52 (seventeen years ago)

I came up with about 70 as well.

Bimble, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 20:02 (seventeen years ago)

I do remember now that Wayside Music has smartly added a NWW list subcategory to their online catalog. But ya, I'm definitely curious to try to put something together for a one-track per name comp.

matinee, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 20:30 (seventeen years ago)

okay i did the full count. 61

dmr, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 20:36 (seventeen years ago)

if we are picking faves then i gotta give my obligatory shout-out to the greatest krautrock album ever made by former members of paul revere and the raiders in california in 1969. MUSIQUE! CONCRETE!

http://www.popsike.com/pix/20060104/4817194518.jpg

(also vinyl reissues are cheap and easy to come by and you need it yesterday if you don't own a copy)

scott seward, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 21:49 (seventeen years ago)

STORMY HAS NEVER HEARD TEH CABS???? OH BEHAVE!

scott seward, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 21:50 (seventeen years ago)

I'm putting that on my list for sure, Scott.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 21:52 (seventeen years ago)

FRIEND SOUND RULES.

ian, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 22:04 (seventeen years ago)

45

# Alternative TV
# Amon Düül
# Amon Düül II
# Ash Ra Tempel
# Cabaret Voltaire
# John Cage
# Can
# Captain Beefheart
# Chrome
# Comus
# Deutsch-Amerikanische Freundschaft
# Faust
# Fred Frith
# Gong
# Hugh Hopper
# King Crimson
# Kluster
# Kraftwerk
# Steve Lacy
# Magical Power Mako
# Anthony Moore
# Negativland
# Neu!
# Nico
# Yoko Ono
# Evan Parker
# Pere Ubu
# Plastic Ono Band
# Pop Group
# Public Image Ltd
# Red Krayola
# Steve Reich
# The Residents
# Sonny Sharrock
# Soft Machine
# Stooges
# Karlheinz Stockhausen
# Tangerine Dream
# This Heat
# Throbbing Gristle
# Univers Zero (first heard them yesterday actually!!!)
# Velvet Underground
# James White and the contortions
# Robert Wyatt
# Frank Zappa

most of these I first encountered in the last year

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 22:13 (seventeen years ago)

I'm surprised ian hasn't heard more of them!

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 22:14 (seventeen years ago)

FRIEND SOUND RULES.

OTM!

dmr, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 22:34 (seventeen years ago)

65-70 I think.

RabiesAngentleman, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 00:20 (seventeen years ago)

44

electricsound, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 00:21 (seventeen years ago)

67. Amazing they were able to find all these artists from so many different areas, No York No Wave, English Prog, limited release Psych, tiny post punk, French avant garde, early early noise/industrial, and all without the internet.

filthy dylan, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 00:53 (seventeen years ago)

friendsound scorpio version used to be like $8 and is worth ten times that. gonna go count up the NWW list things i've heard.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 01:00 (seventeen years ago)

ive heard them all - in fact i am them - i am them all

inside

jhøshea, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 01:03 (seventeen years ago)

How many of those did Stapleton et al actually LISTEN to/learn from, as opposed to merely namecheck?

Myonga Vön Bontee, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 01:04 (seventeen years ago)

j/k 28

jhøshea, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 01:06 (seventeen years ago)

103, but only because a year or two ago, there was some blog (linked from ILX!) that was trying to do the whole list. It folded after getting through about 50 of them, but that's where I got my Limbus 4 download.

And man, looking at it, I'm always like, "I didn't realize Magical Power Mako had been around that long!"

I eat cannibals, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 01:09 (seventeen years ago)

165, apparently.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 01:19 (seventeen years ago)

How many of those did Stapleton et al actually LISTEN to/learn from, as opposed to merely namecheck?

Didn`t he work in a mailorder place or something that distributed alot of this kind of stuff? Someone had to be listening to it back then, right?

Matt #2, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 08:37 (seventeen years ago)

45 (only two of which were sufficiently obscure not to have their own Wiki links - Berrocal and Kirchin.)

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 09:26 (seventeen years ago)

22. But I'm much less into "alternative" rock than most ILXors.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 09:28 (seventeen years ago)

32. The obvious ones plus Xenakis minus Zappa (weirdly).

Jamie T Smith, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:04 (seventeen years ago)

179. and not one of them wasn't worth the time/effort.

-- Mr. Hal Jam, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 17:36 (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

I'd be very interested in finding out what ones you haven't heard!

Tom D., Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:08 (seventeen years ago)

Frank Zappa
Mothers Of Invention
&
Yoko Ono
Plastic Ono Band

I counted these as the same, was I cheating?

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:08 (seventeen years ago)

37

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:23 (seventeen years ago)

38. I think.

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:25 (seventeen years ago)

No Scooter, no cred

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:28 (seventeen years ago)

And where the feck is Derek Bailey and Iskra sans 1903 (and thus sans DB) doesn't count.

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:28 (seventeen years ago)

Bloody EVANISTS!

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:29 (seventeen years ago)

Evangelicals

Tom D., Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:37 (seventeen years ago)

29

abanana, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:39 (seventeen years ago)

(not counting band members, which i probably should)

abanana, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:40 (seventeen years ago)

51-75

Stewart Osborne, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 11:29 (seventeen years ago)

45, mainly the same list as curt1s

Thomas, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 12:16 (seventeen years ago)

118. But I have downloaded a lot of these things off various NWWList blogs in the last cpl of years.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 12:40 (seventeen years ago)

And where the feck is Derek Bailey and Iskra sans 1903 (and thus sans DB) doesn't count.

that's a different Iskra altogether. the omission of DB is odd. and Parker only with Lytton?

Mr. Hal Jam, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 12:47 (seventeen years ago)

I am probably at over 200 due to my mutantsounds habit.

actually own? hell if I know.

How many of those did Stapleton et al actually LISTEN to/learn from, as opposed to merely namecheck?

I am continually shocked at how many early NWW music references pop up on these discs. 15 seconds of a track by Kollectiv Rote Ruben (or something) forms the whole basis of the track "Fashioned to a Device Behind A Tree".

sleeve, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 19:54 (seventeen years ago)

seriously

there's an entire thread to be had in trainspotting the extensive samples & album art, it's all collage art. NWW would be much more widely situated as a plunderphonic band due to the extent of their borrowing if their references weren't so obscure

there are scores of 2nd gen sampling artists who critics casually describe as following on from oswald & negativland who I've met who actually trace their genesis lightbulb moment to hearing 'Sylvie and Babs'

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 20:00 (seventeen years ago)

now that's an article you gotta write

QuantumNoise, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 20:08 (seventeen years ago)

(I shouldn't say scores, I should say 'two', but that's two people who heard NWW a ways before they heard Negativland -- NWW were always more European than American)

in any case in point, the new album cover:

http://www.andrewliles.com/discography/covers/lg/huffin.jpg
http://lpcoverlover.com/2008/04/22/recording-a-girl-in-a-bikini-talking-to-her-hand-puppet/

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 20:28 (seventeen years ago)

86

dan selzer, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 21:52 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 23:01 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Thursday, 15 May 2008 23:01 (seventeen years ago)

I like when groups do things like this.

I've heard 40.

earlnash, Saturday, 17 May 2008 08:42 (seventeen years ago)

Too late to vote, but I've heard about 75 of 'em. For the most part, just the stuff that's most well-known in rock/pop circles.

contenderizer, Sunday, 18 May 2008 18:56 (seventeen years ago)

Meh, around 25 or so.

stevienixed, Sunday, 18 May 2008 19:08 (seventeen years ago)

Ok after going though the list more carefully I am at around 180.

Actually have records by about 55.

sleeve, Sunday, 18 May 2008 19:28 (seventeen years ago)

six years pass...

22. But I'm much less into "alternative" rock than most ILXors.

― Tuomas, Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:28 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

best post

adam, Thursday, 2 October 2014 02:41 (eleven years ago)

79 skimming, probably more accurately in the 100 - 150 range, because I don't remember the names of the gazillion obscure European improvisors I've heard

sarahell, Thursday, 2 October 2014 10:36 (eleven years ago)

This would be a good specialist subject on Mastermind.

The Count has shot himself (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 October 2014 11:58 (eleven years ago)

64

C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 12:04 (eleven years ago)

59 from a scan. Could've heard another 20 or so over the years or so but couldn't be arsed. I suppose I know what Magma will sound like so never bothered.

Awesome how 'conventional' and comforting it all looks now, rather than the everest of esoterica that this was. I could hit youtube and satisfy my curiosity but I'll take it for granted, another day etc. and of course will never get to it.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 October 2014 12:28 (eleven years ago)

Although what I wouldn't give to hear the invented ones...I would hope that a band did actually form by taking an invented name off that list and made the music purely based on what the name hinted at.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 October 2014 12:32 (eleven years ago)

About 100. I should up my game.

I suppose I know what Magma will sound like so never bothered.

I have no idea what you think Magma would sound like if you've never heard Magma.

I would hope that a band did actually form by taking an invented name off that list and made the music purely based on what the name hinted at.

Pretty sure that couldn't happen, because I'm pretty sure none of them actually were invented.

emil.y, Thursday, 2 October 2014 12:45 (eleven years ago)

fairly sure ive heard magma so i counted them, although i dont remember them, same as about fifteen others from that list

C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:01 (eleven years ago)

this list can absolutely go fuck itself

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:09 (eleven years ago)

17 for definite but there are a lot of the more well known ones (soft machine, magma, faust, sonny sharrock) where I can't remember if I actually heard them or not

saer, Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:09 (eleven years ago)

not that it doesn't contain excellent bands & most of my favourite music of the day (no vdgg though!), but the fact of its existence is imo lamentable

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:10 (eleven years ago)

A different question might, how many have you played in the last year?

(2 - robert ashley, kraftwerk)

saer, Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:11 (eleven years ago)

why doth it upset you so, mi'lj?

C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:12 (eleven years ago)

you know this is from 1979 right

example (crüt), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:12 (eleven years ago)

because i'll never hear a quarter of these and it makes me feel inadequate

also it's canon-forming, even if its aim is otherwise

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:14 (eleven years ago)

and yes I do know that!

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:14 (eleven years ago)

not that it doesn't contain excellent bands & most of my favourite music of the day (no vdgg though!), but the fact of its existence is imo lamentable

― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago),

I'm a list hater and think they lead to museumification but at same time this was a pre-internet list which I think makes context pretty different (tho also arguably more elitist)

saer, Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:14 (eleven years ago)

As far as I know this is the most obscure thing on this list:

http://www.discogs.com/Frank-Köllges-Drums-Voices-Knispel-Nie/release/1926085

If anyone can find a digital rip let me know...

example (crüt), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:15 (eleven years ago)

surely its just a public service in providing an inventory for the atomized fan of strange music with limited access to this stuff in the days when all of this was obscure and hard to find

C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:17 (eleven years ago)

and lj if u care u can download albums by almost all of these bands fairly easily

C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:17 (eleven years ago)

You certainly know how to pick your targets, LJ

The Count has shot himself (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:20 (eleven years ago)

Blimey, !53! An increase of 54 from years ago.

The Count has shot himself (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:27 (eleven years ago)

You can just youtube at least a record/composition/crappy footage by most of these

I suppose I know what Magma will sound like so never bothered.

I have no idea what you think Magma would sound like if you've never heard Magma.

I would hope that a band did actually form by taking an invented name off that list and made the music purely based on what the name hinted at.

Pretty sure that couldn't happen, because I'm pretty sure none of them actually were invented.

― emil.y, Thursday, 2 October 2014 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

People do say some of them were invented. I like the idea, even if the invention story turns out to be er, invented.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:41 (eleven years ago)

None of them are invented.

example (crüt), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:45 (eleven years ago)

re: Magma - my impression was mostly prog? I mean bits of jazzy-funky play sprinkled w/neo-classical allusions, crossed w/some electronic music of the Stockhausen brand?

Sounds great and all but iirc there was no youtube at the time and there were a million other things I wanted to listen to. I'll look on some threads later. xp

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:48 (eleven years ago)

there is an element of narcissism about the cult of good taste, avantgarde division, to which initiates are invited to subscribe

even so, there must have been all sorts of personal epiphanies among people who would never otherwise have heard things like 'musique presque rien' were it not for this list

C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:51 (eleven years ago)

crut - how do you know? Have you heard them all?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:51 (eleven years ago)

I've heard 81 btw

example (crüt), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:53 (eleven years ago)

All of the artists have material listed on discogs afaik

example (crüt), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:54 (eleven years ago)

64

Yo Gotti Nutter Ting Hummin' (President Keyes), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:56 (eleven years ago)

I will be disappointed if at least a few of these weren't made up. Like, have a sense of humour guys and make some of this shit up already!

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:04 (eleven years ago)

because i'll never hear a quarter of these and it makes me feel inadequate

No need to feel inadequate, LJ, I've heard half of them and, for the most part, you're not missing much... tho you do like your prog.

The Count has shot himself (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:11 (eleven years ago)

"Fuck this list of things that I love that probably has awesome recommendations for me, because, er, someone cool said something like that recently, I don't know, I just skimread it and missed the point completely".

emil.y, Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:12 (eleven years ago)

62 -- maybe 10-15 of which I could not call to mind what they sound like although I know I have listened to them.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:17 (eleven years ago)

think i'm just projecting my own self-hatred here. sorry

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:30 (eleven years ago)

a) there are TOO MANY recommendations here, though - my brain str8up shuts down

b) what about stuff it's missed

idk the point isn't exhaustiveness but it FEELS like it's trying to be exhaustive, which is where my feelings of panic and dismay set in

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:33 (eleven years ago)

Also it's just a list. Describe them, talk about them, suggest a song. It's the 1979 equivalent of a Youtube dump, except you have to go and buy the albums so it's even worse

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:41 (eleven years ago)

a) there are TOO MANY recommendations here, though - my brain str8up shuts down

I sort of agree about this (prefer lists that have only one item on them...but paradoxically really long lists just become a blur and kind of disappear again, it loses its implicit enclosed completism feeling

b) what about stuff it's missed

what about it? thats actually a good thing no, opening doors rather than closing them. if it didnt miss things then it would be MORE museumified, heres 'everything you need' - leaving things off is better, the door doesnt shut, you can go out and look at the trees and forget all about the gallery

saer, Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:43 (eleven years ago)

leaving things is essential but this list is so big, it feels aesthetically like it is trying to cover everything. this is how my brain instinctively interprets it. in favour of hearing arguments for the list tho

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:52 (eleven years ago)

idk the point isn't exhaustiveness but it FEELS like it's trying to be exhaustive, which is where my feelings of panic and dismay set in

― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 2 October 2014 15:33 (15 minutes ago)

exhaustiveness does seem to have been the point, 'this is everything', it is indiscriminate in the best sense

the impossibility of any one person knowing and liking every one of these artists militates against the tickbox checklist tendency

this is why its better to just list all 291 things you like that you can think of than it is to topiarize 50 of your very most favourite and very most personally meaningful and most numinously and eternally profound things

C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:53 (eleven years ago)

well yeah I have renounced my 50 albums list, it was a stupid notion. you have a point. I'm just too daunted

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:56 (eleven years ago)

try just this one then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BndZT2-zHwQ

C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:58 (eleven years ago)

when I'm home, will do :)

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:59 (eleven years ago)

the 'irony' is that i dont remember ever having downloaded anything by nurse with wound
im sure ive heard them somewhen
not really my scene bruv

C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 15:03 (eleven years ago)

arg pro-list: it is a giant joke on that world and culture, especially if some of it is made-up.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 October 2014 15:08 (eleven years ago)

if any of this shit was made up that would not be funny

C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 15:09 (eleven years ago)

I really don't think any of it is fake, sorry J

sleeve, Thursday, 2 October 2014 15:12 (eleven years ago)

I'd find it hilarious. Anyway, Stapleton himself hasn't heard all of this..

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 October 2014 15:12 (eleven years ago)

xp = bah.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 October 2014 15:13 (eleven years ago)

iirc some of these entries are only there b/c one particular song or album was inspiring to SS, not the whole catalog

sleeve, Thursday, 2 October 2014 15:14 (eleven years ago)

Anyway, Stapleton himself hasn't heard all of this..

How do you know that? Anyway it wasn't just him that made up the list.

The Count has shot himself (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 October 2014 15:38 (eleven years ago)

makes more sense to think of it as an album cover rather than an abstract list. it's not an attempt to capture something exhaustively, it's armouring the record with these mysterious pointers to a wider context

ogmor, Thursday, 2 October 2014 15:44 (eleven years ago)

Of course I don't know that for a fact - but yes it was NWW that made the list up, so making an assumption no one person would've heard it all by the time it was compiled. xp

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 October 2014 15:47 (eleven years ago)

"categories strain, crack and sometimes break, under their burden - step out of the space provided"

example (crüt), Thursday, 2 October 2014 15:52 (eleven years ago)

xxp sorry if I'm misreading but this wasn't the album cover anyway just included iirc

nxd, Thursday, 2 October 2014 16:20 (eleven years ago)

I thought it was a record sized insert or inner sleeve from the design, if it'd been in a booklet or something it wouldn't have the same feel

ogmor, Thursday, 2 October 2014 16:26 (eleven years ago)

yes, it was an insert

sleeve, Thursday, 2 October 2014 16:29 (eleven years ago)

Apparently I'm at 223, but I listen to a lot of bad '70s jazz-prog. Most sane people could easily go their entire life without needing to hear Modry Efekt or Thrice Mice.

rushomancy, Thursday, 2 October 2014 18:36 (eleven years ago)

^^ two that I have not heard

sleeve, Thursday, 2 October 2014 18:37 (eleven years ago)

related thread:

please help me parse this fuckin NWW list

sleeve, Thursday, 2 October 2014 18:39 (eleven years ago)

i mean, this is some of the most important music of the 1970's. mostly 1970's. if you start at the top and work your way down you will be a brighter and better person by the end of your trip.

― scott seward, Friday, February 18, 2011 8:17 AM

sleeve, Thursday, 2 October 2014 18:41 (eleven years ago)

thinking about starting my own trangressive tribute act, nonce with wind

john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 2 October 2014 19:07 (eleven years ago)

sound would be kind of like gary glitter on ex-lax

john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 2 October 2014 19:08 (eleven years ago)

plz don't go telling me that william bennett has got there first

john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 2 October 2014 19:09 (eleven years ago)

I think that back in the days before downloading/album blogs/Spotify I had probably only heard a handful of these acts. I didn't know what a NWW list was back then either. It would have been cruel to know such a thing.

Yo Gotti Nutter Ting Hummin' (President Keyes), Thursday, 2 October 2014 19:13 (eleven years ago)

lol

C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 19:17 (eleven years ago)

exackly, its fkn sadistic

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 2 October 2014 19:20 (eleven years ago)

I've never even seen this list

please delete outrageous tanuki crappyposter (wins), Thursday, 2 October 2014 19:22 (eleven years ago)

I feel like I must've seen this list before. If not, then I'm still in the dark as to how I stumbled upon that Anal Magic album.

Portly Backgammon (Old Lunch), Thursday, 2 October 2014 19:23 (eleven years ago)

I don't think it's inherently cruel or sadistic -- I think that says more about your approach(es)

sarahell, Thursday, 2 October 2014 19:25 (eleven years ago)

oh no, I think the list is great. But if I had come across it in 1999 I would have spent a fortune tracking down oop albums that would be widely available by 2005 or so.

Yo Gotti Nutter Ting Hummin' (President Keyes), Thursday, 2 October 2014 19:33 (eleven years ago)

Napster started in 1999!

sink floyd (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 2 October 2014 20:00 (eleven years ago)

I remember spending hours waiting to download Moving Gelatine Plates or whatever from dudes in Europe on dialup.

sink floyd (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 2 October 2014 20:01 (eleven years ago)

I spent years in the mid-90s looking for a bunch of obscure-at-the-time records I'd made a list of from the 2nd edition of the Trouser Press Guide with no illusions or need to be a completist

sarahell, Thursday, 2 October 2014 20:03 (eleven years ago)

Heard: 56
Seen live: 6
Stayed at their house: 1
Actually a really big fan of: approx 15

everything, Thursday, 2 October 2014 20:12 (eleven years ago)

Napster started in 1999!

oh yeah, possibly that's why there are 5 cop cars across from my house right now

Yo Gotti Nutter Ting Hummin' (President Keyes), Thursday, 2 October 2014 20:18 (eleven years ago)

oh no, I think the list is great. But if I had come across it in 1999

Probably came across it in 2000 or so and I love a lot of the music but I wasn't that into tracking everything down. Also as I said I really think there is a sense of black humour to the thing. What would people in 1980 have felt? At least we had a search engine etc. and some mailing lists to ask about. I used to be a member of an old S3 list and the guys there were knowledgeable as hell.

Not that this list is that diff when looking through a record guide or reading a book on music and coming up with a list of tens of records to investigate. sarah otm.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 October 2014 23:01 (eleven years ago)

dude i spent like three years on napster trying to find the (then) long-out-of-print "faust so far" and all i ever found was a crappy xing-encoded mp3 of "it's a rainy day sunshine girl" with diginoise everywhere. finding sphinx tush on napster? forget it!

rushomancy, Thursday, 2 October 2014 23:48 (eleven years ago)

how did u know it was xing encoded

C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 23:51 (eleven years ago)

krautrock was all labeled "Weird Al"

Yo Gotti Nutter Ting Hummin' (President Keyes), Friday, 3 October 2014 00:23 (eleven years ago)

is it ok to like most of what i've heard (a bit more now than my number above) of this list but not NWW? despite the efforts of some i still don't get it at all

outback bumfuc (electricsound), Friday, 3 October 2014 00:25 (eleven years ago)

hell yes! and I say that as a big NWW fan

sleeve, Friday, 3 October 2014 00:28 (eleven years ago)

OK I dug up this ancient interview, partial transcription:

"As Steve puts on a cassette of the second NWW album, a list is produced from somewhere. This is, I'm told, a provisional tally of what the Nurses consider to be the thirty most original records. The bulk are already chosen, all that remains is to debate over a few of the more contentious ones. I scan the list, and though I pride myself on my ability to stay reasonably abreast of what's going down (I'm not the world's greatest collector but I'm an inveterate fax'n'info gatherer), I've only heard of half a dozen or so of the names, and probably only two or three of the actual records. Most of them are before my time - long lost obscurities from all over the place. There is very little I can offer in the way of mediation - but, and it's a big but, this list is of great significance because it's already becoming clear to me that NWW's music has arisen precisely for the reason that these records no longer circulate (or records like them), and the key to understanding the motivation behind NWW is to probe a bit deeper into the mentality of the collector, as represented by these three particular specimens."

(the article later notes that, since the interview, "there has been much more activity from the group")

Face Out magazine, March 1981

sleeve, Friday, 3 October 2014 01:19 (eleven years ago)

I'm surprised nobody's put out a book based on the list. Would expect something detailing who the band was, where from, discography and review of essential works. May be something similar is online but I don't remember seeing much detail. & I for one would like a physical copy to peruse.

I think I came across the list around the time I was first using the internet back around the milenium. I think there were already soundfiles posted for a lot of the music. Seemed to be a number of sites with the list decoded at least.
I'd come across some of the list contents earlier through other sources independent of the list. There are some not so obscure bands listed. Surprised how early they'd heard of a couple though. DAF for one.

Stevolende, Friday, 3 October 2014 07:55 (eleven years ago)

I want to hunt down some magma on youtube but all I did was go down memory lane with the Dead C. what are you going to do!

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 October 2014 08:02 (eleven years ago)

I've heard around 100 of these and they're among my favorite artists/records of all time. I should really check out the rest.

Nurse With Wound is one of those artists I like more for the idea behind instead of the music. I think I'd enjoy more talking and geeking out to this albums with him instead of listening to his music. Also the name of the band is top 10 band names of all time for me.

Reminds me of a famous mexican poem (cant remember the poet) about a drunk neurosurgeon with a blade in his hand.

Moka, Friday, 3 October 2014 08:38 (eleven years ago)

Hadn't counted the number of artists I've definitely listened to on there before and I think it's 175 and I have soundfiles and cds by a load of those..

I'm not that familiar with Stapleton's work and should have caught up with that much better than I have. I met him at an art college exhibition here in Galway back around 11 years ago. He lives in the Burren down in the next county down the Irish coast, or certainly did for years.

I liked the 2cd sampler that Sanctuary put out of his work with a lot of edited tracks on, Living Fear of James Last. I don't know how good an intro to his work it makes though

Stevolende, Friday, 3 October 2014 09:19 (eleven years ago)

I want to hunt down some magma on youtube but all I did was go down memory lane with the Dead C. what are you going to do!

I was listening to Magma's "Udu Wudu" album on Youtube a few days ago. Surprisingly funky!

Yo Gotti Nutter Ting Hummin' (President Keyes), Friday, 3 October 2014 13:49 (eleven years ago)

attahk is even funkier than udu wudu!

there used to be a super-great clip of the '75 band rehearsing theusz hamtaahk that i was going to link to but it looks like it's gone now. :( so here, take this classic appearance from a 1972 french comedy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK0qpTqfqC0

rushomancy, Friday, 3 October 2014 21:54 (eleven years ago)

four years pass...

https://www.finderskeepersrecords.com/shop/strain-crack-break-nurse-with-wound/

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Monday, 29 July 2019 09:23 (six years ago)

I think I'm on 54 now, which is 11 more than last time, 11 years ago. so by the time I'm 280 years old I'll have heard the whole list!

Colonel Poo, Monday, 29 July 2019 09:49 (six years ago)

57. Can't say I'm curious enough to check all of them out though.

pomenitul, Monday, 29 July 2019 10:00 (six years ago)

How many of them are actually any good is the real question.

Arthur Lowe & Love (Tom D.), Monday, 29 July 2019 10:01 (six years ago)

Just checked, and I'd heard 99 eleven years ago LOL. Not sure I've added much beyond that.

Arthur Lowe & Love (Tom D.), Monday, 29 July 2019 10:03 (six years ago)

Depends on your tolerance to practical jokes.

xp

pomenitul, Monday, 29 July 2019 10:04 (six years ago)

just going through the list, hurrah I've finally found a use for that click counter I bought for no good reason. Never listened to Dubuffet, have seen his work tho.

calzino, Monday, 29 July 2019 10:59 (six years ago)

60

calzino, Monday, 29 July 2019 11:02 (six years ago)

oops 61, thought I hadn't heard any of the D's despite owning a DAF album or 2 in the 80's.

calzino, Monday, 29 July 2019 11:09 (six years ago)

About 50 I think, and about 10 new to me in the last 10 years. One of them being Catherine Ribiero + Alpes, who've moved near the top of my alltime favorites, so I should keep digging.

bendy, Monday, 29 July 2019 18:31 (six years ago)

Just checked, and I'd heard 99 eleven years ago LOL. Not sure I've added much beyond that.

― Arthur Lowe & Love (Tom D.), Monday, 29 July 2019 10:03 (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Just checked, I'm up to 176. I need to get out more.

Arthur Lowe & Love (Tom D.), Monday, 29 July 2019 18:38 (six years ago)

wow I counted exactly 100

brimstead, Monday, 29 July 2019 21:55 (six years ago)

Conservatively, 59

dan selzer, Monday, 29 July 2019 22:01 (six years ago)

38 that i can definitively say i have heard and know what they sound like

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Monday, 29 July 2019 22:04 (six years ago)

one month passes...

The List goes mainstream:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/sep/24/got-any-horrific-child-discover-the-list-of-the-worlds-291-weirdest-bands

funnel spider ESA (Matt #2), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 10:59 (six years ago)

It is about beginnings for Stapleton in another way, too – he has inadvertently played a long game in record collecting, and is now using the proceeds from selling his rare vinyl to build a house in Clare, Ireland, “near the Father Ted house”.

“I have maybe 1,000 albums left, but most of the rare ones are gone,” he says. “I could not believe the prices of some of them.”

Didn't know he really sold off most of his records!

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 11:41 (six years ago)

How many Chilean avant-garde noseflute LPs does one man need?

funnel spider ESA (Matt #2), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 13:23 (six years ago)

At least five tbh.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 13:31 (six years ago)

Good article! The band that only recorded one song was Sphinx Tush (though there are two different versions of that song). I also appreciated Allan acknowledging that the list is not some comprehensive chronicle of the underground but is honestly fairly limited in scope.

My main hope is that Finders Keepers will somehow finagle the rights for a legit reissue of the Don Bradshaw-Leather LP. I love that record, but the pressing was apparently not very good, and all the online copies floating about sound extremely bad.

Poody Mae Bubblebutt, Miss Kumquat of 1947 (rushomancy), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 13:49 (six years ago)

NWW That's What I Call Music! If only

bendy, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 16:35 (six years ago)

"the Don Bradshaw-Leather LP"

The back cover of the album looks like a low-budget community theatre reworking of Zardoz - if only it had been the front cover. But the music is better than I expected, like early Tangerine Dream. And now Youtube's sidebar has me.

Ashley Pomeroy, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 22:37 (six years ago)

enjoy your Joe Rogan videos

Poody Mae Bubblebutt, Miss Kumquat of 1947 (rushomancy), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 23:36 (six years ago)


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