Ride 'Nowhere' Poll

"Vapour Trail" always and forever

Right now I'm debating btw "In a Different Place" and "Dreams Burn Down"

Ah, very tough one. "Vapour Trail" probably snags it, but I love the title track and "Decay" as well.

I've never been keen on the central trio of Dreams Burn Down, Decay, and Paralysed. Too turgid. Any of the first four, or Vapour Trail or Taste could be my choice. Last two I always quite liked, but they never quite did it for me like they did for some others.

taste, but i feel like it doesn't really belong on the album. otherwise seagull. even at the time i didn't think vapour trail was all that

With my purist hat on, I should really say that it's only really tracks 1 to 8 that constitute the album "Nowhere", which is why I'm not voting for "Here and now". Instead my vote goes to "Dreams burn down" for just being so very immense.

dreams burn down. today

GBA poll would be harder tho.

Nah, that would be quite easy...

alright, cool your boots it is then. nobody post the poll.

GBA is a piece of piss, because the opening track is the best thing Ride have ever done, the second song is OK, and the rest of it is shite.

this is a) not the case, and b) see (a)

GBA is OK but came as a huge disappointment at the time for me. My favorite on that is 'OX4'

Taste.
though Seagull also desrves it's praise

I remember when I got 'Nowhere' the only song I could get into, for quite a few months, was "Kaleidoscope"

'polar bear' was my favourite song in the entire world for a very long timen.

ages and ages ago, someone (Kate StC?) said on an ilx thread that the 'cello at the end of Vapour Trail was out of tune and since then I haven't really been able to enjoy it properly, I keep thinking 'ooh it sort of is, isn't it/'

for ages Taste was my fave, but now I prefer Vapour Trail.

Scik Mouthy vaguely OTM in the sense that with both albums, it comes down to a coin flip between two songs (here it's "Vapour Trail" vs "Dreams Burn Down"), with everything else on the albums being left in the dust.

wrong

I never really liked Vapour Trail that much. The last 3 songs shouldn't really be there (including bonus tracks in album polls - C/D?)

I vote Dreams Burn Down.

How do you define a bonus track though?

These songs were on all the standard CD editions, right?

oh sorry, I see they were just on the US edition

Nope, they were on the UK CD as well. But they were all on "Fall", which is where they belong.

Then I don't really see the difference. Just bacause a song appeared on an EP or a single, it shouldn't be included as a real album track?

As I said, the original album - vinyl / cassette - was "Seagull" through to "Vapour trail", and the original CD had the 3 extra tracks tagged on the end so really they aren't on the album. It's just that over time nobody remembers the vinyl / cassette editions and the CD has become the dominant music carrier so I don't blame you for the questions.

Maybe I'm just being purist and anal by ignoring them in this poll - certainly when I play "Nowhere" I don't switch the CD off after "Vapour trail", I let it play and love the 3 extra songs, but for me they are of a piece as part of the "Fall" EP - that's how I heard them first, that's how I feel they belong. "Dreams burn down" works in both places - on the EP and the LP.

I'm thinking too much about this now, aren't I?

Hmmm, I guess this question could be its own thread, but I feel that extra songs included on the CD edition are not bonus if they were there on the original edition (ie. not added for some re-release), esp. at a time when CD was already clearly the dominant format. Same goes for, say, the Cure's 'Disintegration'.

Agree it comes down to 'Vapour Trail' or 'Dreams Burn Down'. I'll go with 'Dreams...' as that chiming guitar riff gets me everytime.

bah, this is some CD reissue, Taste was ne'er on that album.

First, to clarify: Going Blank Again is a stone cold classic from start to finish.

So is Nowhere, of course, and this is partiularly hard for me because I've listened to it so regularly for such a long time, that my "favorite" track has alternated variously among "Seagull," "Kaleidoscope," "Polar Bear," "Dreams Burn Down" & "Taste." "Vapor Trail" is nice as well, but I never understood why people thought it towered so highly over the rest of the album. In the end, I'm going to cheat a bit and vote "Seagull" just for how fucking tremendous it was when played live.

It's a shame Britpop had to come along and quash Ride's aesthetic. It was nice while it lasted.

I heard Mark and Andy on the radio a couple of years back doing some reminiscing. They were asked what the best thing they'd done was, and they said 'Dreams Burn Down' without a moment's hesitation. I'd never paid that much attention to it before, but I put it on and it was immediately obvious that they were right.

"Dreams burn down" is one of those songs where I can remember precisely where I was when I heard it for the first time - sat at my old PC in my bedroom at my parents, Peel on in the background - I was completely blown away by it. I'd loved the first two EPs and was anticipating something good for the third single but not THAT good. I remember noting in my diary that night that it sounded like "slow motion Felt with distortion pedals set to stun".

can you recommend any Felt that sounds a bit like that?

not really into ride, but the trespasser's william cover of "vapour trail" is amazing.

Electricsound OTM - I don't feel like those last three "bonus" tracks belong on the album proper because they were from the earlier "Fall" EP.

I'd love to choose Seagull but almost any live version of that song shits all over the album version, so "Vapour Trail" is the clear choice.

though it's not a part of the album, really... "Nowhere" wins for me

GBA is a piece of piss, because the opening track is the best thing Ride have ever done, the second song is OK, and the rest of it is shite.

Pretty damn well OTM, Nick.

this whole debate about what is and isn't on this album is a no brainier for me. i bought this on release date on CD in the US, poll is right it has all 11 of these songs on that CD.

i don't think i could love an album more than i did with this one at that time. i was so obsessed with this album that my friends and i sat there one night and tried to figure out the lyrics. that ended up being an impossible task and very unrewarding. we couldn't finish but ended up getting the lyrics at a British type of club in Los Angeles some nine months later.

"Polar Bear" fwiw, but can go in about seven different directions.

baaderonixx, i imagine Rob was thinking of earlier, cherry red era felt, perhaps specifically primitive painters, which could be seen as their proto gaze moment, the guitar lines on dreams burn down do recall Maurice Deebank's a bit. Felt really aren't about getting trapped under collapsing walls of molten feedback though.

Just to weigh in to a couple of the debates rather late in the day: GBA = mostly poor, but LTAB is really good & yes, I only think of Nowhere as consisting of the eight tracks that were on the vinyl record because that's what I bought. Was CD really the dominant format in 1990? I didn't get a CD player till Xmas 92.

I meant to follow that up with my vote, but work suddenly banned ILM for 'violence' (whatever that means).

'Seagull' is absolutely excellent, probably my favourite Ride track. As 1990 had progressed and Ride moved through the Ride EP, then Play EP, then Fall EP, they seemed to be phasing out the wah-wah assaults and just going for a kind of reverb & distortion type of sound, which I was a bit disappointed at. I bought the album the day it came out and when I heard the opening track I just thought 'great - the wah-wah's back'. They usually closed with this or played it as an encore and it was just made to jump around like a madman to.

'Kaleidoscope' is a great pop song (in the loosest sense of the word 'pop', because it didn't sound remotely like anything in the charts at that time) that has been largely overlooked and never got played live that I know of. I was going to go through track by track, but I loved this album at the time and it's difficult to find a weak spot. Maybe 'Dreams Burn Down' hasn't aged so well (perhaps because that whole quiet-noise-quiet thing got overdone by Nirvana in the years to follow) and the singing/lyrics on Vapour Trail lack a certain something.

Those first couple of bars of 'Dreams Burn Down' though ... it's shoegazing's 'When The Levee Breaks'

i love this album to bits, and i'm actually going to vote for a song that shouldn't actually be listed: 'here and now'. such a gem that one.

major props to all the other tracks though, particularly 'seagull', 'dreams burn down' and 'paralysed'.

Argh. Those last three tracks are gonna skew things no matter what we do!

'polar bear' was my favourite song in the entire world for a very long timen.

^^^this.

So a Disintegration poll shouldn't include "Homesick"?

Ride really owned the world for a few months back then, didn't they?

my fave Ride track (and, in fact, the only one I still listen to semi-regularly) is "Drive Blind"...but I'll take "Dreams Burn Down" here, it's the only song listed above that I can still hum...

Jumping back into the 8 tracks v 11 tracks debate, I can remember a review of 'Nowhere' (in either Sounds or MM or NME) bemoaning the fact that it had an already-released E.P. track on it (i.e. 'Dreams Burn Down'). If CDs had been seen as the dominant format (in the Indie market) at that time then that review would have bemoaned the fact that the *whole* Fall EP had been tacked onto the album.

Yeah, it's kindof a testament to how common EP releases were in the indie world at the time, too. They weren't seen as just "singles" from an album with b-sides, but respectable in their own right.

The Disintegration comparison, although interesting, isn't quite apt simply because to my knowledge, Homesick wasn't previously released at the time the album came out. I think it would be fine to include Homesick in such a poll, but perhaps someone who bought the vinyl would feel differently. *shrugs*

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(Also, those last three tracks aren't technically Nowhere songs)

I'm relistening to the album now and it's pretty surprising how LOUD the drums are.

Yeah, I don't necessarily have the best ears for that sort of thing, but it seems like the mix is sorta wacked-out. Drums and vocals are too far up front. Where are the guitars hiding-- this is "shoegaze", etc.?

Also, I feel like this record has not dated as well as it might have; possibly b/c those guys were too young at the time to craft a "classic" record? But, with that statement I'm verging into rockist territory, perhaps, as well as risking instigating a whole debate about how being in yr early 20's in the 60's or 70's was a different thing from being that age now or back in '91 or so.

That being said, my kneejerk vote is for "Vapour Trail"; although re-visiting "Polar Bear" definitely gave me some goosebumps today. THing is, it's one of those records that I have trouble listening to without an overload of sentimental associations coming up

baaderonixx, i imagine Rob was thinking of earlier, cherry red era felt, perhaps specifically primitive painters, which could be seen as their proto gaze moment, the guitar lines on dreams burn down do recall Maurice Deebank's a bit. Felt really aren't about getting trapped under collapsing walls of molten feedback though.

-- cw, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 11:54 (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

Thanks - that was exactly what 19 yr old Rob was thinking at the time. Your last line made me laugh for about five minutes today.

Regarding "Dreams burn down" again, I keep finding the intro drum popping up in odd places - I always heard "In my place" by Coldplay as being in awe of "DBD" and then the last song on the recent Trembling Blue Stars album had the exact same drum pattern as well. As someone else said, it's the indie "When the Levee Breaks".

Regarding the 8 to 11 track debate - all the reviews at the time in the UK press considered "Vapour trail" to be the closing track, and certainly the MM review (can't remember if it was Reynolds or Chris Roberts) went nuts over it as a closer.

No more 'regardings' from me.

Hmm, my copy of this also contains tracks 12-15. Where are they from?

I've voted for Vapour Trail too.

12-15 are from 'today forever'

Pound for pound, the 'Today Forever' EP alone is better than (the 8- or 11-track) Nowhere, easily.

The MM review was Chris Roberts, who slagged off the first side (tracks 1-4). There is something about Felt's 'Splendour of Fear' that reminds me of early Ride. Not literally obv, but a there is a definite feeling of some kind of defeated optimism in both.

Pound for pound, the 'Today Forever' EP alone is better than (the 8- or 11-track) Nowhere,
I think I agree with this. The singles and b-sides from Going Blank Again are also better than the lp. In my opinion, of course.

Pound for pound, the 'Today Forever' EP alone is better than (the 8- or 11-track) Nowhere, easily.

Yep.

'Taste' narrowly edging out 'Polar Bear' and 'Vapor Trail' for me - good memories from a study abroad year in Canterbury - I came back to the states and basically thought US rockist guitar bands sucked for a good couple of years.

"Seagull" is still one of the only songs I can think of that channels The Byrds and Hawkwind so explosively at the same time.

Yeah, that's a good way to describe it, Mackro. Did you ever witness it live?

Pound for pound, the 'Today Forever' EP alone is better than (the 8- or 11-track) Nowhere, easily

I can't agree with this at all. I found it disappointing at the time, apart from 'Unfamiliar'.

I saw Ride on the "Today Forever" tour, with Slowdive as the support band. That was March or April 91. It was like shoegazing heaven. Ride were awesome live, and it was a dream set list (except for the lack of "Here and now"). Those strobes during the noisy bits of "DBD"! The sheer sonic assault on "Seagull"! Fantastic night. Slowdive in comparison were a poorly mixed sludge of reverb and noise.

Yeah, I saw them then too. I'm pretty sure it was March. I saw them in Kilburn and they were absolutely amazing. I saw them six times in total, but that was the best one.

I saw Ride only once in early 1991 on the Nowhere tour, when they co-headlined with Lush on their Gala tour. This was at the Roxy in West Hollywood. Lush was the headliner that night. I was there mainly for Ride, who were great, but I stuck around for Lush and thought they were better that night... Ride were great, but they pretty much had their performance style in place for the entire set. Lush was a bit more memorable and dynamic.

Anyway, yes, saw them.. awesome.. etc.

dreams burn down. today

-- Alan, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 12:07 (2 days ago) Bookmark Link

haha, if we were counting the Today Forever EP then these would be my TWO inseparable choices! No dice, though, so DBD it is.

'kaleidoscope' just because the alternateen station where i grew up started off just being on at night and they would play the entire album and 'kaleidoscope' was the first song from the album i ever heard on the radio. greg st james said he liked it, i was impressionable then.

i sense electricsound seething over this entire thread

by no means! actually i haven't sat down to listen to this album in a loooong time. i should dig it out of the crates

well you should be!

I used to love Ride, but their impact on me has diminished over time, which is quite not-nice. :(

Anyway "Dreams Burn Down" for its fuckoffwallfonoise guitar.

If there was to be a Going Blank Again poll I'd also vote for LTAB, UNLESS of course the four extra tracks on the CD reissue made the cut, in which case Howard Hughes all the way. I actually think GBA is very good throughout, though, and considerably better than Nowhere. I appreciate that this makes me faintly batshit. It really helps that all four extra tracks are fucking strong.

Its between decay & here and now for me

I have a signed copy of GBA, i bunked off school the day it was released and went down to tower records :D I was pretty disappointed with gba at the time tho

Polar Bear all the way.

Finally voted Kaleidoscope, as, like many others, it was the first one (shortly followed by Taste) that I fell for. Polar Bear was the ditherer.

i much much prefer GBA. i would still much prefer GBA over Nowhere even without LTAB. i am also batshit. apparently.

GBA is better, I think, because the crisper production and more upbeat songwriting style gives the album a more overtly psych-rock, less overtly shoegaze aesthetic, which I think suits Ride down to the ground. Nowhere's great but it doesn't set about kicking your ass nearly so much, it tries to winsomely charm you into submission. Ride, on those first two albums at least, were always better at their most confident.

crisper and less thin. GBA is a chunky farmhouse soup, nowhere is a distinctive and tasty, but thin broth.

There are some very average songs on GBA. The opener and the closer (OX4) are good. Time Machine is ok, but the rest is average jangle, really. Ride were atrocious at lyrics weren't they? A better place for them to go would have been the 'grasshopper' intrumental on the LTAB 12", which is like the Cure gone pomp prog, and lasts about 5 hours. It's much more interesting than the lightweight fodder on the rest of GBA.

GBA is one of those albums where i know and look forward to every track.

There are some very average songs on GBA. The opener and the closer (OX4) are good. Time Machine is ok, but the rest is average jangle, really. Ride were atrocious at lyrics weren't they?

OTM. Really childish lyrics on GBA (e.g. Not Fazed, Making Judy Smile), plus an overdose of the 'oooooh...oooooooh' thing (which was OK when it was just on Polar Bear and Taste, but very wearing when it's on virtually every track).

Plus vocally, they did often sound like teenagers with blocked noses.

"the Cure gone pomp prog" is a very unfair description of Grasshopper xp. It's great. I found another instrumental once called 'Coming Up For Air' which is pretty fine too. Teasingly, the one I have is marked 'part 7 of 8' - are there seven other parts out there somewhere?

poor "Paralysed"

One track I love that's not been getting love is "Decay"

Ismael, I think the Cure going 'pomp prog' is a great idea, and I didn't intend it to be a criticism. It's something Ride should have done more of. The 'ahhhh ahhhs' on GBA really date them to that time. Grasshopper is like something very few bands have attempted. Proggy as anything, it sounds like it should be a soundtrack to an extremely bleak Lukas Moodysson film.

Grasshopper isn't pomp prog, it's shoerave. Honestly, it's structured like a dance track, extended breakdown and all, just done with psychedelic shoegazey instrumentation. Those screams are the very essence of rave.

's ok xp, I just react badly to any mentions of: a) the Cure; and b) prog. It made me imagine Loz and Steve dressed up in wizard outfits and full clown make-up - not a good look in my view. Agreed 100% that it would make a great soundtrack, ideally to something like 'Badlands'.

Anyway, back to my question: what is 'Coming Up For Air', and why do I only have one-eighth of it?

Is this what you're talking about?
http://www.rideox4.net/coming.html

Dreams Burn Down was my favourite song in the world when I first heard it, but Vapour Trail has stuck with me closer for some reason. A really hard decision but VP edges it (I may create a sock puppet to vote for DBD tho).

I'm really bummed that I apparently don't have this on my iPod right now.

I'm bummed out that I don't have fucking Grasshopper on my iPod right now!

I'm really happy cos I just so happen to have a mix CD on me which ends with "Grasshopper" so I'll be playing in on the way home from work tonight.

That's the one xp. I didn't even know about this reunion! Or did I? That would explain why Mark and Andy were on the radio together reminiscing I suppose. It saddens me that I'm never going to find the other seven parts - they must be like the very tip of the long tail.

Well I'm just hoping someone's got that Coming Up For Air EP up on slsk because it's going for plenty of money now.

I've got a great mix cd of the Today Forever EP and the Going Blank Again B-Sides. I listen to that way more than either Nowhere or Going Blank Again.

I bought the Ride box set on a whim when I came upon it unexpectedly at a record store. It's just the "best-of" (kinda crap) and a "demos + unreleased" (almost completely unredeemable) and their Reading '92 set (really awesome). I'd like to think that the live disc is a pretty good representation of the best of their concerts. It beats the hell out of "Live Light," that's for sure.

My favorite Ride song will always be "Like A Daydream," incidentally.

Structure of "Grasshopper" reminds me more of "Interstellar Overdrive" - massive riff at beginning and end, improv/breakdown in middle. It is a fantastic track. They should have followed this direction instead of copping out on "Carnival of Light". That still feels like a lost opportunity even now to me.

I voted for "Nowhere", I like the way it rises and falls like a swell on the ocean.

Yer damn right they should have followed that direction.

I voted for "Nowhere", I like the way it rises and falls like a swell on the ocean.

this ^^^

glad someone else voted for this track!

First, to clarify: Going Blank Again is a stone cold classic from start to finish.

Apart from "Making Judy Smile," which -- frankly -- is kinda crap.

One day Grasshopper will have its own thread. Maybe even its own poll, where you name your favourite segment like the one a few months back for Revolution 9. Right now I'm digging the breakdown around 10:00, all these aimless little half-melodies until Loz takes it by the scruff of the neck and they crash back into the riff at the end. I love this track.

You mean, where the drums drop out altogether? Yeah, that's obviously the best bit. No poll required. The Interstellar Overdrive comparison is a good one, although the medium of each track is very different. Pink Floyd's wasn't so much a groove as a completely psychedelic voyage through perceived musical dimensions. Ride's song is a kinetic self-propellant.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Coming Up For Air EP...wow....

Wouldn't mean a thing without Loz. Oh no you better believe it.

If he killed me with those drumsticks I don't care. Who could possibly care?

No seriously, gratitude to ILM. I was lost but now am found. THX.

THERE MUST BE 7 OTHER BILLION PARTS OF THIS AND WE WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT KIND OF A BAND THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN BEAT THE HELL OUT OF PINK FLOYD FOREVER AMEN

BimbZ sTill not PlayeD GRAss Mr. HoPPer tonight...DEPRIVED AT WORK
never AGIIIN

GRASSHOPPER POLL! Who will beat me to it???

t/s: leave them all behind vs. ummagumma live disc

hahahahahhahhahahhahha

Also:

Leave Them All Behind vs. The Who's "Baba O'Riley" (just listen to the way they both start, I dare you)

yeah i know! by the way i regard ummagumma live as the pinnacle of floyd, so it's actually a pretty tough call.

I'm a bit of a virgin...I only associate that album with a woman with long red hippie hair that I could never win...circa 1989

Anyway...Pixies anyone?

I need to listen to more Pixies. You need to listen to more Cardiacs. Fair deal?

Okay okay I promise.

But right now...

GRASSHOPPER

FAN CLUB STARTZ HERE

DO YOU WANT YOUR SHOEGAZE IN A PROG ROCK STYLEE????

no doubt I will be beaten on the head with a 2x4 (Fall) for saying that, but nevertheless.

YOU POST_ROCK SADDOES RUN AND HIDE

ON THE RUN THYE'VE GOT YOU< RIDE

GRASSHOPPER WILL FREE YOUR MIND

YOUR ARSE IS UP TO OBAMA

what

I've never heard Grasshopper. Does someone wanna fix me up?

I listened to it yesterday streaming from here:

http://www.imeem.com/kmfis/music/wdzKV7Yy/ride_grasshopper/

No idea what the site is or whatever, I just googled "ride grasshopper mp3"

Nick, get hold of "Howard Hughes" and "Stampede" as well. They're two of the best songs Ride have done IMO.

The 'Birdman' b-sides (Don't Let It Die, Rolling Thunder #2 and Let's Get Lost) hold up really well too. I don't know what went wrong with Carnival of Light - maybe it's worth revisiting.

"Birdman" is possibly my favorite song Ride ever did.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

kaleidoscope is the big loser here, deserves about 10 of vapour trail's votes

and Seagull deserves the 11 votes that went to songs which aren't on the album!

"paralysed" deserves most of those IMO

but seagull deserves the rest

has any of the stuff that was on the "pink floyd" album they did that was scrapped in favor of carnival of light ever revisited? how much of it ended up on carnival of light? they should have just sit in the corner and let john leckie take control.

Just for the record, I would gladly have voted for Taste or Here & Now except for the fact that THEY ARE NOT ON THE ALBUM.

Also this has been a really fun thread. And thanks for the sorta off-the-cuff Pink Floyd/Cardiacs exchange, LJ!

Okay hey this is really weird. I'm getting flashbacks about the bass player of Ride. No shit. I was there for the soundcheck in '91 in an empty club when they toured with Lush or whatever because my friend was gonna interview Lush I think. Anyway, I just remembered that he (bassist of Ride) played the riff for Jane's Addiction's "Mountain Song" for a little bit during the soundcheck. Also...another weird thing is on this Coming Up For Air EP he does the bass riff for The Damned song "Neat Neat Neat" and he ALSO does the bass riff for Felt's "Primitive Painters" at the beginning of the "Performance" part. I completely and totally respect him for ripping these things off, is the funny thing. I mean how any bassist could really compete with what was going on with the guitars & drums on that is beyond me, so he was wise to just sit back and enjoy the Ride.

Alright last post on this thread tonight until someone else posts:

I don't think anyone has yet made it clear on this thread yet, but anyone who knows Grasshopper and appreciates it MUST hear the Coming Up For Air EP. It's that place beyond Grasshopper. Not quite as good perhaps, but then think how many times you had to play Grasshopper before you felt you knew the whole thing?

Damn u polar bear h8rtz!

not really into ride, but the trespasser's william cover of "vapour trail" is amazing.

Coming Up For Air EP
1 Soundcheck #1 4:20
2 Soundcheck #2 1:26
3 Performance 30:51

is what I need. Does anyone have a link? I've acquired quite a bit of shoegazism from the Tremelo100 site before. Coming Up For Air is listed there, but the link doesn't work. Gah!

Here's a link.

having some of that thanks

Merci monsieur Bimble.

Sire, I am in your debt.

Oh my god...I just heard the beginning of Polar Bear in my head.

Holy jesus. I'm playing it now.

I feel so sorry for people who never saw them live, I really really do. I hate to say that. But they were absolutely the best thing ever live. I can't erase those memories, they are a heavy part of me, those gigs.

I don't think I saw them 6 times like Nasty, Brutish & Short did, but it seems to me I probably saw them about 5 times. I can't forget what Leave Them All Behind sounded like outside at the Belgian festival. It wasn't even available for sale yet. They were poised to conquer the world and then...a fall from grace. But I've accepted this now, you know. It's history.

DECAY = GOTH SHOEGAZE

Bimble is still more goth than you.

VAYPOOR TRAYLE

TASTE

HERE & NOW

NOWHERE

best sequence of Ride songs ever outside of Grasshopper/Today Forever EP.

Cannot wait

p4K:

Ride don't get treated with quite the same hushed reverence as their shoegaze peers My Bloody Valentine, but they sat comfortably in the top tier of late-80s/early-90s effects-pedal abusers. This year, their landmark 1990 debut album Nowhere turns 20. On December 21, Rhino will release an expanded double-disc reissue of the album.

The new edition includes a remastered version of the original album's U.S. edition, as well as the 1991 EP Today Forever and an unreleased 1991 live show. It'll come packaged as a hardback book, along with a 40-page booklet featuring photos and an essay by critic Jim DeRogatis. Check out the tracklist below.

Nowhere: 20th Anniversary Edition:

CD1 (Nowhere and Today Forever):

01 Seagull
02 Kaleidoscope
03 In a Different Place
04 Polar Bear
05 Dreams Burn Down
06 Decay
07 Paralysed
08 Vapour Trail
09 Taste
10 Here and Now
11 Nowhere
12 Unfamiliar
13 Sennen
14 Beneath
15 Today

CD2 (Live at the Roxy, 1991):

01 Polar Bear
02 Seagull
03 Unfamiliar
04 Dreams Burn Down
05 Like a Daydream
06 Vapour Trail
07 In a Different Place
08 Perfect Time
09 Taste
10 Nowhere
11 Chelsea Girl
12 Drive Blind

I think I might already have that Roxy set & if it is what I am thinking of, it is one of their best live recordings. I would certainly invest in a remaster of the same show.

♡_♡

Okay, up for that. Twenty years old though - when Nowhere came out, Abbey Road was only a year older than that.

shhh..

Woahhh

jeepers thats an amazing stat/fact.

Yeah that would definitely be the same Roxy set that's partially circulated for a while; seven songs from it were on a promo single.

so is this out then? can't find it listed on any of the online retailers

Future ILX poll: The original 8 songs on Nowhere or the 7 bonus tracks?

So is this not being released in Europe??
can't imagine I'm the only one interested in this

Turned thirty years old this week. Yes you're old. Burbled this just now:

https://www.patreon.com/posts/covid-coping-42820529

CLASSIC, great driving album.

Ride, along with The Charlatans are playing live tonight in Los Angeles and I'm not going. 😒

I love this album to death as I have been recently proclaiming.

Voted "Polar Bear" and still comfortable with that choice but also...

My brother-in-law once admiringly described them as “the best school band you ever heard”. Re-reading Dave Cavanagh’s book about Creation (recently reissued in paperback) and it all goes tits up when Twisterella isn’t a big hit like everyone is expecting. It’s a pretty sad story after that. Blows my mind how much bigger Slowdive are nowadays. I’m glad they came back and made it work, saw them in Manchester last year on the Nowhere anniversary jaunt, still great.

Saw them over the summer and they were great. Read an old Nitsuh review of the Field Mice that noted a surprising sonic connection between the bands.

"Seagull" really is the best opener of any shoegaze album isn't it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy44DgD_F6g-

happy 35th

Probably my favorite Shoegaze album. Liked it a lot as a young person, love it more now. What a sound. I love Alan Moulder so much.

last few times I've seen them live they have absolutely lit the place up playing like Dreams Burn Down, Seagull, and Vapour Trail... their drummer is amazing!

that rules. the drums on “dream burn down” are enormous. I’m obsessed with the rhythm guitar tone on that one.

This was the first music I listened to after completing my very last high school exam. Make of that what you will lol. (A few years on from 1990 though, and I feel like the EP tracks tacked onto the CD might have been the immediate attraction. "Taste"/"Here & Now"?)