BEST of these mid to late-90s 'Britrock' bands

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Everyone else either too pop or not pop enough, or I forgot about them. This is a BEST poll as I think an attempt to replicate the clowning Britpop gets on here would be unrealistic

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Ash 27
The Wildhearts 19
Therapy? 18
Skunk Anansie 6
“A”2
Honeycrack 2
Headswim 1
Symposium 1
Feeder 1
Terrorvision 1
Reef 1
The Almighty 0
Baby Chaos 0
3 Colours Red 0


DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:44 (seventeen years ago)

The Wildhearts because Therapy? went so shit

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:44 (seventeen years ago)

Skunk Anansie by a country leap year.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:44 (seventeen years ago)

Seriously still got huge love for those guys.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:45 (seventeen years ago)

Soundgarden steal dead man's finger BTW

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:45 (seventeen years ago)

"Anthem" by The Wildhearts is a fucking classic. So is "Old Folks" by A.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:46 (seventeen years ago)

I liked Therapy? best out of that lot at the time. They were great live.

chap, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:50 (seventeen years ago)

I bought a single last week for a pound by a band who featured I think two of the brothers from "A", released on a mid-90s DIY hardcore label

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:52 (seventeen years ago)

Ash, I guess, cos by mid-to-late 90s Therapy? was shite.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:54 (seventeen years ago)

Don't remember Honeycrack or Baby Chaos at all.

chap, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:55 (seventeen years ago)

Honeycrack was some bloke out of Wildhearts I think?

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:56 (seventeen years ago)

CJ. I saw them at T In The Park

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:58 (seventeen years ago)

The Wildhearts have the song blueprint that sounds like Caffeine Bomb and the song blueprint that tries to be all Beatlesy and stringsy, but 50/50 ain't so bad, so it's them or Therapy? and pretend nothing after Screamager happened (though I'd probably still take their later stuff over anything Ash did after the first album, and they're the only other contender for me, maybe just for Petrol/Kung Fu/Jack Names the Planets).

xposted-xpost I think Baby Chaos was too, but I might be wrong. Remember wanting their album just for who was in the band but never hearing a note of theirs.

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 15:58 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, Ash.

Still make the occasional good record.

Mark G, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:00 (seventeen years ago)

Therapy? were awesome for 1st 2 eps and 2 lps but afterwards were horrible.
1st 2 Wildhearts were classics. 1st 3 times I saw them live were great and the 4th and last was the worst gig Ive ever been to.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:00 (seventeen years ago)

Baby Chaos supported them at one of those gigs.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:01 (seventeen years ago)

Baby Chaos: maybe descendants of Senseless Things? And Wildhearts for me. Anyone a fan of Fishing For Luckies here? I should probably be ashamed to admit to owning a mail-order only (at the time at least) Wildhearts album, but it is great, and still holds up now.

Neil S, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:02 (seventeen years ago)

I think of the Wildhearts as sort of precursors to the Libertines - very loyal and mental fanbase, smack by the gallon, dire imprompyu acoustic gigs. This did fit a bit more snugly before Heat readers knew what Pete Doherty looked like obv

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:03 (seventeen years ago)

The only ones I remember are Skunk Anansie, Ash, and Therapy?. Of those three, CLEARLY Therapy?.

I dimly recall Feeder by name but I don't know that I ever heard them.

HI DERE, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:04 (seventeen years ago)

A lot of Feeder fans feel the same way.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:04 (seventeen years ago)

and the fact that Ginger was a great songwriter and the Libertines dont have one.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:05 (seventeen years ago)

The only band on that list that I could concievably vote for would be skunk anansie, and I'd only be voting for them because I really REALLY fancied the lead singer, so, er, no.

Pashmina, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:07 (seventeen years ago)

no vote that is.

Pashmina, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:07 (seventeen years ago)

Theraphy? had one good song - "teethgrinder" and some Sabres of Paradise remixes too if I remember correctly. But Skunk Anansie got my vote.

Everything else grim - especially Symposium.

I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:07 (seventeen years ago)

Symposium were truly fucking awful.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:09 (seventeen years ago)

Headswim started as a "UK Grunge Band" then went all Radiohead influenced.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:17 (seventeen years ago)

TIGHTEN THE TOURNIQUET

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:17 (seventeen years ago)

How do the various members of Terrorvision spend their time these days?

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:18 (seventeen years ago)

Just to confuse matters there was a US band called Headswim as well who played kinda AmRep-style grunge. I think they were around first.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:19 (seventeen years ago)

Worked in Our Price in the mid 90s with an utter cunt who kept this stuff on the stereo non stop - and justified it because he was assistant manager and "this is what the public wanted to hear" - ugh do not want

I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:21 (seventeen years ago)

I liked Headswim's debut and have fond memories of seeing them play. I haven't listened to them for over a decade, they were probably rubbish really.

chap, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:23 (seventeen years ago)

Yep, not very good at all.

chap, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 16:26 (seventeen years ago)

Compulsion.

mark e, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 18:17 (seventeen years ago)

was never a kerrang reader but had mates who were, the only band here that i ever had any affection for was the wildhearts, they could write a cracking tune.

jeremy waters, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 18:21 (seventeen years ago)

i liked the 1st 2 compulsion albums. Still have the cds somewhere.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 18:22 (seventeen years ago)

Worst band of the early 90s though would have to be Skin, Quireboys or Little Angels.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 18:23 (seventeen years ago)

i liked the 1st 2 compulsion albums. Still have the cds somewhere.

i loved the final album, future is medium. and live they were fantasically in yer face.
the use of electronics meant they were obviously not going to last much longer though (dance remixes ! howie b involvement !)
i don't think anyone forsaw the rise of the bands garrett lee (aka jacknife lee) as the worlds most in demand producer of 2007/2008.

mark e, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 18:38 (seventeen years ago)

Acrimony or Fudge Tunnel were the best britrock bands of the 90s along with The Wildhearts and early Therapy?

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 19:43 (seventeen years ago)

Therapy? were great with their first drummer, Fyfe Ewing and his breakbeats - once he left, they merely 'rocked'.

sonofstan, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 19:57 (seventeen years ago)

Wildhearts without a doubt.

PHUQ is awesome. They were also my first ever live gig, in Warrington in perhaps 1996 (or was it 1994? it's been a while since I kept the ticket bluetacked to my wall, though I still have it in a box somewhere I think, so should check).

krakow, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 20:05 (seventeen years ago)

skunk anansie, wildhearts, therapy?, and headswim all had their moments - both good and bad.

skunk anansie probably hold up better than most these days, and in truth were probably the best of the bunch back then too.

but I'm going to vote for headswim, just because they had the widest and most unfeasible gap between really decent debut (battering riffs, blazing organs, filth-encrusted rural english psychedelia) and appalling follow-up (proto-coldplay bollocks). and somehow that abandoned potential is more appealing than the actuality of any of these bands.

m the g, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 20:11 (seventeen years ago)

Voted for Skunk Anansie...

skunk anansie probably hold up better than most these days

...probably because they had very little to do with Britpop and nothing to do with the detestable bandwagon jumping that happened around 1994-5 (every band is suddenly a crap version of Oasis!).

snoball, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 20:27 (seventeen years ago)

Voted Therapy? coz they were the only obe I ever bought a record by. And coz of the letraset accident.

I've actually had to listen to Skunk Anansie quite a bit more than I'd like the past couple of years coz apparently all lesbians like to play 'em when drunk.

Raw Patrick, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 21:48 (seventeen years ago)

(I, too, thought the lead singer of Skunk Anansie was smokin' hot.)

HI DERE, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 21:49 (seventeen years ago)

Saw SA live in a sweat box before anyone had heard of them, and they were scorching. I was very disappointed when I heard their recorded stuff.

chap, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 21:52 (seventeen years ago)

Saw them at t in the park. they were ok. opening band though, not a great slot. They only had 1 single out (the one that didnt get in the charts)

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 22:06 (seventeen years ago)

Saw SA live in a sweat box before anyone had heard of them, and they were scorching.

me too, and I concur. incredible live band. but the first album was pretty good. after that, they veered more and more into ballad territory - not their greatest strength, I fear.

...probably because they had very little to do with Britpop and nothing to do with the detestable bandwagon jumping that happened around 1994-5 (every band is suddenly a crap version of Oasis!).

eh? yes, britpop was largely awful (unless pulp count), but almost every other band on that list had nothing to do with it either, with the arguable and tenuous exceptions of reef and feeder. and later headswim.

(I had the chance to hijack headswim's limo once. their driver asked me 'are you headswim?' as I left the theatre where they had just played (on channel 5's jack docherty show). if only I'd answered 'yes'. how wildly different my life could have been: sun, sea, girls, peanuts, fame and fortune. or maybe just a free ride home.)

baby chaos are the only band on the list who I have no recollection of.

m the g, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 22:40 (seventeen years ago)

i thought ash, but decided on feeder

they had a stack of really good singles

electricsound, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 23:34 (seventeen years ago)

Most of those are generally too rock for their own good. Voted Ash because they always retained the pop melodies in spite of being a rock'n'roll band on the surface. Their best album, "Free All Angels" was from the 00s though.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 29 May 2008 07:45 (seventeen years ago)

"too rock"

as if anything can be...

m the g, Thursday, 29 May 2008 08:21 (seventeen years ago)

Could imagine one of these bands coming out with "we're just too rock for our own good" as a really corny pullquote-ready soundbite

DJ Mencap, Thursday, 29 May 2008 08:56 (seventeen years ago)

haha too rock, what a crime for a rock band.

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 29 May 2008 08:57 (seventeen years ago)

They were Britpop, you know. And Britpop was better what it was pop and just pop.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 29 May 2008 08:57 (seventeen years ago)

make more sense or risk a sectioning.

m the g, Thursday, 29 May 2008 09:18 (seventeen years ago)

ok well im super drunk right now after playing bass in an awesome metal show and i have a hot chick waiting for me in my bed so ill say this:

fuck tom and his nu style of banning whatever he wants whenever he wants (sans admin log)

hey.. if i was a dude in his 30's, post failed marriage from an ilx chick, in a dead end job that never got laid, and had barely any irl friends i would love anonymously modding ilx too...

basically: this is the only thing dude has control of in his life.

even when he gets drunk he spends his time modding ilx. kinda sad.
fine.

you can say 6000 registered ilxors were good today but one of them that was actually totally cool, brought the lols and was a solid dude got banned for no reason was enough for me to say "fuck this shit"

tom millar obviously loves the "this is the thread where i say"
style of pussy ass bullshit posts that make ilx terrible. just see idiot thread board for that bullshit. its basically the same 4 ilxors talking about their bullshit lives that no one asked about plus tom telling us how wasted he is.

its like an episode of sex in the city with tom and ned adding in there 2 cents once in a while. wow what bunch of lols.

im not one to make a big post about leaving but fuck this shit. for reals. im leaving for gershy who is a real bro and "GOD FORBID!!!!" bumped threads that already existed....

this board is now just a bunch of rich college kids and dumb fat bitches (lets get real.... even the actual rock stars that post here are academic morons.) that wanna talk about the politics of messenger bags and facebook profiles. obviously tom wanted this. you can tell by his "dudes im totally wasted!" posts all over the dumb ass molify lingbert thread. so hay! you got what you wanted, tom!

i hope your life of never getting laid by anyone other than ally and being stuck in a dead end job is finally giving you what you wanted in life. everyone hates you btw. but hey as long as you rule who gives a fuck right?

chaki, Thursday, 29 May 2008 09:40 (seventeen years ago)

wau ^

stephen, Thursday, 29 May 2008 18:09 (seventeen years ago)

Um… yeah, so, I kinda… Well, I liked Therapy? and the Wildhearts a lot when I was in middle/high school, and never really dug Skunk Anansie when a dude I worked with was way into them, and of those, the only one that I still listen to is the Wildhearts…

But what the fuck was that Chaki thing all about?

I eat cannibals, Thursday, 29 May 2008 18:20 (seventeen years ago)

Symposium had a song on some Kerrang tape that my friend had that had a song with lyrics something along the lines of this:

I like to get on my bike and ride
beside the river.
And stop beside a pub and have
a pint and wish I'd never.

Have to go to school again.
Have to brush my hair again (?!)
Have to do, anything I don't want! Again!

jim, Thursday, 29 May 2008 18:27 (seventeen years ago)

Almost as badd as 'The Worst...' list but

Therapy started nicely. Wildhearts - I liked their 'noise' album - forget which one - later.

'A' were the best, just for 'Summer on the Underground', 'Old Folks' - fortysomethings who dreamed of skating dry pools in CaliforniA from their bedsits in Dalston. Or possibly daddy's 5 bedder in Surrey.

Symposium were funny as fuck - that 6 year old guitarist(at least he looked it) who ended up in some other no mark 'punk' rock band recently - was it Lost Prophets or some other god awful reek of dung?

Fer Ark, Thursday, 29 May 2008 22:38 (seventeen years ago)

Mention of Compulsion above^^^ Jack Knife Lee??? Same guy?

'Juvenile Scene Detective' . Rocker.

Fer Ark, Thursday, 29 May 2008 22:43 (seventeen years ago)

Mention of Compulsion above^^^ Jack Knife Lee??? Same guy?

yup.
garret lee = jacknife lee.
a couple of years ago, i tried to get interview from him via a friend of a friend to basically get to the bottom as to just how the fuck did a guitarist from little known punk-pop band become one of the worlds biggest name producer.
i got the best fuck off and die type of response ever.
then again, its not like he needs to raise his profile for work.

mark e, Thursday, 29 May 2008 22:47 (seventeen years ago)

As opposed to the bands in the "worst" poll, most of these bands were rubbish. Cast=great though. Because they sound like the bands in the other poll.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 29 May 2008 23:36 (seventeen years ago)

Ash, I mean, not Cast.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 29 May 2008 23:36 (seventeen years ago)

Voted Ash - love the stuff before 1977 and they've made many listenable pop records amongst their later, generally rubbish output, whereas Therapy and Wildhearts fell off much more emphatically (and they never got much play here anyway)

energy flash gordon, Friday, 30 May 2008 00:47 (seventeen years ago)

Has to be Wildhearts. Haven't really heard much of the others but "Fishing For Luckies" is as said above a fucking rollercoaster, and it hasn't dated one bit. "Sky Babies" and "Do The Channel Bop" especially.

Just got offed, Friday, 30 May 2008 01:15 (seventeen years ago)

Honeycrack
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briania, Friday, 30 May 2008 01:20 (seventeen years ago)

Someone from Symposium is in Hell is for Heroes but I couldn't tell you if it was the guitarist or not. I could, however, report that I saw HifH live - not by choice - and everyone except the singer bore a remarkable similarity to anonymous dragon-fodder hobbits from LOTR movie, which just about kept me entertained despite the music (and the support bands were so shockingly terrible that HifH were almost a relief in themselves).

Think I may vote for Therapy?, seeing as the Wildhearts are doing well enough for themselves. I knew ONE Therapy? fan at school but now I'm in my late 20s every single person my age I meet who is at all interested in music of whatever kind eventually admits to having been well into them circa Troublegum.

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 30 May 2008 07:59 (seventeen years ago)

Ash win this... they may not be *that* good, but they are not TOTALLY RUBBISH like all the other bands.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Friday, 30 May 2008 09:39 (seventeen years ago)

Tim Wheeler could put an ok tune together, but his limp little girl's voice sucked the life out of everything Ash did.

chap, Friday, 30 May 2008 13:01 (seventeen years ago)

^^^^
truth.

prime example of why 'it's MY band, so I'M the singer' is not a creed to live by.

m the g, Friday, 30 May 2008 13:11 (seventeen years ago)

DJ Mencap left out Rachel Stamp, Cecil, King Adora, Blameless and other no-hopers who were around that time.

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 30 May 2008 23:05 (seventeen years ago)

didnt biffy clyro start around the late 90s too?

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 30 May 2008 23:08 (seventeen years ago)

Those bands were more turn of the decade, no?

Colonel Poo, Friday, 30 May 2008 23:10 (seventeen years ago)

Cecil was mid 90s. I saw them and Blameless support The Wildhearts. Cecil also played t in the park 96 i think. before the jesus lizard on the main stage.

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 30 May 2008 23:11 (seventeen years ago)

Ash! And you can all fuck off.

Skunk Anansie... Jesus Fuckin' Christ.

zeus, Friday, 30 May 2008 23:23 (seventeen years ago)

Was it Skunk Anansie who had that 'Tits,Lips,Hips..Power' song. And T-shirt?

bidfurd, Friday, 30 May 2008 23:24 (seventeen years ago)

That was Silverfish.

Raw Patrick, Friday, 30 May 2008 23:30 (seventeen years ago)

That was Silverfish.

Raw Patrick, Friday, 30 May 2008 23:31 (seventeen years ago)

Yes!

I once tried chatting the singer up, sort of, after they came off stage. She wasn't impressed.

bidfurd, Friday, 30 May 2008 23:36 (seventeen years ago)

I had the 1st Die Cheerleader album. Henry Rollins later signed them to his own label.

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 30 May 2008 23:37 (seventeen years ago)

Re. Silverfish - Lesley aka "Fat Axl".

I saw 'em supporting Revolting Cocks in Glasgow and they were OK.

Raw Patrick, Friday, 30 May 2008 23:57 (seventeen years ago)

Silverfish were a lot better than most of these bands.

I think it was King Adora & Rachel Stamp that stuck out as being later than this lot, Kerr. Might as well include Idlewild then.

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 31 May 2008 00:05 (seventeen years ago)

ugh

Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 31 May 2008 00:28 (seventeen years ago)

die cheerleader's debut is still pretty bloody great.

m the g, Saturday, 31 May 2008 00:40 (seventeen years ago)

Re. Silverfish - Lesley aka "Fat Axl".

I saw 'em supporting Revolting Cocks in Glasgow and they were OK.

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I was at this very gig! Silverfish were good, I thought, the records never even came close to living up to this live performance though, they were pretty weak from what I remember. I also tried to chat up w/the singer, and I also got nowhere. Kind of embarrasing in retrospect.

Pashmina, Saturday, 31 May 2008 11:00 (seventeen years ago)

Btw I remember the issue that the pic is from. Soundgarden steals dead mans finger was something to do with a bside named after jerry garcia i think.

Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 31 May 2008 14:09 (seventeen years ago)

I'm so sorry but I had a crush on Lesley from Silverfish. An even rougher Kim Deal.Delicious

Fer Ark, Saturday, 31 May 2008 14:48 (seventeen years ago)

Skunk Anansie were terribly bloated cock rock

Fer Ark, Saturday, 31 May 2008 14:50 (seventeen years ago)

I was at this very gig!

Did u get the coach from the Riverside watcvhing taped episoeds of Snub TV and Taxi Driver on the way there? If so, I was on the same bus.

Also, I played yr 12 string last week!

Raw Patrick, Saturday, 31 May 2008 15:43 (seventeen years ago)

Wah, spelling!

Raw Patrick, Saturday, 31 May 2008 15:43 (seventeen years ago)

Did u get the coach from the Riverside watcvhing taped episoeds of Snub TV and Taxi Driver on the way there? If so, I was on the same bus.

Holy crap Patrick. HOLY CRAP. Yes.

Pashmina, Saturday, 31 May 2008 15:46 (seventeen years ago)

Which 12-string, I have 4 (!) The one that Richard H has got, I assume.

Pashmina, Saturday, 31 May 2008 15:47 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, though I was w/ his new flatmate Jerome who occasionally posts on metal threads here as Myopic Void.

Unless you can actually play pretty well, which I can't, 12 strings just sound like a crapper 6 string. :(

Raw Patrick, Saturday, 31 May 2008 16:02 (seventeen years ago)

"I was at this very gig! Silverfish were good, I thought, the records never even came close to living up to this live performance though, they were pretty weak from what I remember. I also tried to chat up w/the singer, and I also got nowhere. Kind of embarrasing in retrospect."

Shortly after my chat up debacle I read an interview with her where she talked about "wierdos coming over to talk to her after shows" I always assumed she meant me. Maybe there were many of us.

bidfurd, Saturday, 31 May 2008 17:25 (seventeen years ago)

wish id seen Therapy? in the earlier days

Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 2 June 2008 01:33 (seventeen years ago)

btw Feeder have a new album coming out next week or so

Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 2 June 2008 01:34 (seventeen years ago)

WAIT A MINUTE, I was at that RevCo show as well. (although I did not get the same bus as the rest of you)

aldo, Monday, 2 June 2008 09:31 (seventeen years ago)

probably ash, because late-nineties therapy? -- as others have said -- weren't the therapy? i knew and loved.

not exactly an inspiring selection for me, that.

grimly fiendish, Monday, 2 June 2008 10:21 (seventeen years ago)

That RevCo show is the ILX equiv of Manchester Sex Pistols show.

It is the only time I have ever stagedived, though through necessity rather than desire as I was gonna be kneecapped by the front of the stage if I didn't climb onto it.

Raw Patrick, Monday, 2 June 2008 10:36 (seventeen years ago)

I'm trying to remember now who the band on first were. It wasn't the Stretchheads, was it?

aldo, Monday, 2 June 2008 10:39 (seventeen years ago)

Never seen the Stretchheads unfortunately. I can't even remember another band!

Raw Patrick, Monday, 2 June 2008 10:52 (seventeen years ago)

Maybe I'm imagining a third band then. Googling is no help, apart from revealing that Therapy? were at the show as well and got their deal with Wiija by giving a self-pressed 7" to one of Silverfish.

aldo, Monday, 2 June 2008 10:54 (seventeen years ago)

Ash win this... they may not be *that* good, but they are not TOTALLY RUBBISH like all the other bands.

^^^this, except for Therapy? who were great fun for a couple of years at least.

I'd give props to Jacob's Mouse too, if they'd been mentioned.

CharlieNo4, Monday, 2 June 2008 11:50 (seventeen years ago)

I shouldve went to see RevCo. My mates wee brother and his pals did.

Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 2 June 2008 11:51 (seventeen years ago)

You could have been Mick Hucknall to our Warsaw.

aldo, Monday, 2 June 2008 11:57 (seventeen years ago)

I think I may do a Camden Lurch poll. Here's who I thought of so far, who's missing?

Therapy?
Silverfish
Th' Faith Healers
The God Machine
Jacob's Mouse
Love Blobs
Headcleaner
Pitchfork Skyscraper
Sun Carriage
God
Headbutt
Gallon Drunk maybe?

I understand that anyone who wasn't going to gigs in London around 1990 won't have heard of most of these.

Matt #2, Monday, 2 June 2008 12:37 (seventeen years ago)

The God Machine are heads and shoulders above all that lot(and i love early therapy?)

Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 2 June 2008 12:40 (seventeen years ago)

Terminal Cheesecake? They were certainly mates with a lot of these.

Of course, God still win, by a country mile.

aldo, Monday, 2 June 2008 12:42 (seventeen years ago)

zomg I could have sworn Skunk Anansie were one of those bands everyone hated, but you know, I have quite a few of their singles and either the second or first album and... um.. "Twisted" and "I Can Dream" = CHOONS.

Also, the last Wildhearts album was gash and Ash are now very shit so SA!

edwardo, Monday, 2 June 2008 12:46 (seventeen years ago)

You could probably have Snuff if you were more concerned with scenes than sounds, as it were?

xpost

DJ Mencap, Monday, 2 June 2008 12:50 (seventeen years ago)

Blood Sausage and Milk could probably go on yr Lurch poll too.

aldo, Monday, 2 June 2008 12:53 (seventeen years ago)

I was a bit young for Camden Lurch or whatever but I have some residual teenage love (eww) for Therapy? and Silverfish had their moments as did Gallon Drunk. I have the Loveblobs mini-album and the Terminal Cheesecake album on Wiiija and they are both meh. Pretty into the Faith Healers stuff I've heard. I saw Sophia play last week and Robin Proper-Sheppard introduced himself to me on the basis that I'd had a beer with him before, although I don't recall this happening (he was really hammered) plus I like the last God Machine album so I think maybe they win

DJ Mencap, Monday, 2 June 2008 12:54 (seventeen years ago)

Blood Sausage and Milk could probably go on yr Lurch poll too.

This is my dinner tonight.

Raw Patrick, Monday, 2 June 2008 12:57 (seventeen years ago)

Missing from the camden lurch list would be doghunch memorable only for me as a striking music press is wearing the emperor's new clothes moment back on 1989 or whenever, reading a live review of them in MM and thinking "why the fuck is this guy telling me I should listen to a band called DOG HUNCH"

Pashmina, Monday, 2 June 2008 13:01 (seventeen years ago)

The Frank and Walters seemed to be the support band for every bloody act that played the Camden Underworld round about the turn of the eighties/nineties.

Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 2 June 2008 13:04 (seventeen years ago)

It is the only time I have ever stagedived, though through necessity rather than desire as I was gonna be kneecapped by the front of the stage if I didn't climb onto it

Yeah, I remember this! The stage was pretty low and a bunch of people in the audience kept getting pushed up on stage by the pressure from behing. It was a great gig, really exciting on every level. I can't remember who the opening act was either, IIRC they weren't great.

Pashmina, Monday, 2 June 2008 13:07 (seventeen years ago)

I was never that keen on Silverfish, largely because I couldn't divorce Lesley the vocalist from Lesley the grumpy sod who used to serve me at MVE (see also Tindersticks - regardless of how good their music is, to me it's still "oh it's that bloke behind the counter at Rough Trade at the front").

Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 2 June 2008 13:11 (seventeen years ago)

One of the members of could-have-been-in-this-poll band Liberty 37 emailed me earlier asking if there were any writing opportunities at my place of work. He described the band as "local underachievers" which I quite liked, something I can't say for Liberty 37 themselves

DJ Mencap, Monday, 2 June 2008 16:05 (seventeen years ago)

I used to share a house with someone who was friends with the sister of the brothers twins(?) in Jacob's Mouse. An indie ligger is me!

There was a period in the early 90s when every gig I went to had either the Frank and Walters or Sleeper on the bill somewhere. Oh, those were the days...

ailsa, Monday, 2 June 2008 16:41 (seventeen years ago)

the bad old days?

Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 2 June 2008 18:38 (seventeen years ago)

no the fucking terrific days of excellent music. what do you think?

ailsa, Monday, 2 June 2008 18:53 (seventeen years ago)

I voted Skunk Anansie... I was into them in high school, then years later a friend of mine reminded me of them and songs like "Weak" and "Hedonism" became my top drunky/feeling sorry for myself/crap relationship type tunes. Still have love for Ash, but not as much as SA.

miryam, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 00:23 (seventeen years ago)

i'm still delighted someone mentioned gallon drunk upthread. god, i loved them.

grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 09:12 (seventeen years ago)

I saw them at the back end of last year, the tour with Terry Edwards back in the fold, and it was really kind of awesome, like they'd never been away.

aldo, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 09:27 (seventeen years ago)

Couldn't call them Britrock though.

I remember their original ad for a bass player at our work place (a few bods who knew bods knew GD).. influences: Nick Cave, Elvis. Like, the very names they'd pretend to not be influenced by in interviews, ha.

Mark G, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 09:38 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 23:01 (seventeen years ago)

If this was a WORST poll who would win? Feeder? or would Reef get the britpop haters vote like in the other poll?

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 08:29 (seventeen years ago)

If it was worst I'd maybe go for The Almighty or 3 Colours Red.

Reef don't really wind me up that much.

Raw Patrick, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 08:37 (seventeen years ago)

Skunk Anansie at their worst were probably the worst, but maybe not overall

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 08:58 (seventeen years ago)

Carmody is a biiiiiig Skunk A hater.

Raw Patrick, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 09:16 (seventeen years ago)

I went for Ash here, because Trailer and 1977 were solid gold. I never got into Therapy? - too much of a Britpop kid (and I mean kid, I was 11 in 1994) - but I do love Troublegum. Andy Cairns went to my school and lived in the same small town, true fact.

Further to the perennial support band thing, there was a time when Seafood seemed to be on every tour. I saw them supporting Ash (there we go again) and My Vitriol around 2001.

Chris in Belfast, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 09:51 (seventeen years ago)

Wasn't really into any of this lot, so only ever saw two of them live - Skunky Nancy at the Camden Underworld, dunno the year, but they were supporting the godlike genius of Come (SA came across as weedy posturing, Come blew them out of the bath); also saw Therapy? playing one of their first London shows, definitely at the New Cross Venue, possibly with Bitch Magnet - they were pretty good, I bought their first single off them (but sold it shortly afterwards, wonder if it's worth anything?). So Therapy? wins for me I guess...

NickB, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 10:05 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 23:01 (seventeen years ago)

Whoa

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 23:06 (seventeen years ago)

3 Colours Red were as good as the Sex Pistols and not one vote!

Raw Patrick, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 23:11 (seventeen years ago)

aka: not very good

stephen, Thursday, 5 June 2008 00:45 (seventeen years ago)

i would of voted Ash, though they are hardly the best.

Bee OK, Thursday, 5 June 2008 01:05 (seventeen years ago)

Andy Cairns went to my school and lived in the same small town, true fact.

Even many years after Therapy? stopped meaning anything to me, the former terminally single Troublegum-obsessed spotty loser schoolkid inside me felt a little pang of betrayal on meeting someone who said he'd been at school with Cairns and that he'd been well-liked and had various girlfriends while there, contrary to his assertions in interviews.

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 5 June 2008 08:38 (seventeen years ago)

"DJ Mencap left out Rachel Stamp, Cecil, King Adora, Blameless and other no-hopers who were around that time.

-- Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 30 May 2008 23:05 (6 days ago) Bookmark Link"

DJ Mencap once wrote the most damning review ever of a King Adora gig. It went like this:

mei, Thursday, 5 June 2008 09:40 (seventeen years ago)

I used to theoretically really like the Wildheats, but never actually listened to them that much. By far the best thing they ever did was the remastered version of their first EP that came with their second EP.

Skunk Anasie had one or two great songs, with great sounds but were mostly rubbish.

And whoever above mentioned Therapy with their first drummer was spot on. When he left they lost their uniqueness.

Why aren't Oasis in this poll? Wrong period?

mei, Thursday, 5 June 2008 09:43 (seventeen years ago)

Lurkers heart Ash.

Neil S, Thursday, 5 June 2008 09:53 (seventeen years ago)

I heart The Lurkers more than Ash

Tom D., Thursday, 5 June 2008 09:56 (seventeen years ago)

Ash are/were rubbish.

mei, Thursday, 5 June 2008 10:41 (seventeen years ago)

Is the dead man's finger somehow a reference to 'Sealth', the (awesome) cover of Into The Void they did on the b-side of (awesome) Jesus Christ Pose?

mei, Thursday, 5 June 2008 10:42 (seventeen years ago)

ash weren't that kerrangy till the 00s rly. first album kind of indie, second one kind of rubbish noo yawk new wave bullshit.

Brohan Hari, Thursday, 5 June 2008 10:43 (seventeen years ago)

First criteria for inclusion in the poll was whether Kerrang! wrote about them or not - hence no Oasis

DJ Mencap, Thursday, 5 June 2008 10:44 (seventeen years ago)

I think K! were writing about Ash from more or less the beginning actually - maybe not front cover material until '98 or summat but still

DJ Mencap, Thursday, 5 June 2008 10:45 (seventeen years ago)

i guess they had canny marketing or whatever coz 'kung fu' or that one track ('angel interceptor'?) are pretty much britpop.

Brohan Hari, Thursday, 5 June 2008 10:49 (seventeen years ago)

DJ Mencap once wrote the most damning review ever of a King Adora gig. It went like this:

-- mei, Thursday, 5 June 2008 09:40 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

I sense the intro to "It's like that" RunDMC started there.

Mark G, Thursday, 5 June 2008 10:49 (seventeen years ago)

ash won? what's wrong with you people?!

m the g, Thursday, 5 June 2008 10:53 (seventeen years ago)

Kung Fu is Britpop? Sounds more like straight up pop-punk to me. Angel Interceptor, yeah fair enough.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 5 June 2008 10:57 (seventeen years ago)

Britpop-punk innit.

Raw Patrick, Thursday, 5 June 2008 11:08 (seventeen years ago)

a lot of britpop, like elastica, and some other bands i can't name because they didn't exist, was pop-punk rly.

Brohan Hari, Thursday, 5 June 2008 11:10 (seventeen years ago)

Well yeah, cos Elastica were left over from NWONW. Apart from a couple of Supergrass songs (Caught By The Fuzz etc) I'm having trouble thinking of any others.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 5 June 2008 11:15 (seventeen years ago)

blur did a token 'punk track' on parklife and the great escape. but yeah.

Brohan Hari, Thursday, 5 June 2008 11:17 (seventeen years ago)

Mark G, my post looks stupid cos of the formatting. I meant that the review said nothing. It was a 3 band bill, they were in the middle, and he didn't mention them, cos he didn't like them. That's pretty damning!

mei, Thursday, 5 June 2008 11:19 (seventeen years ago)

fair enough. I sort of guessed that was what you meant, but how, I didn;t get. Ta.

Mark G, Thursday, 5 June 2008 11:23 (seventeen years ago)

*Mourns the week RAW Magazine turned into a britpop magazine with The Bluetones on the cover*

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 5 June 2008 13:38 (seventeen years ago)

My girlfriend still has all the Britpop RAWs. I'd never seen them. They are terrible even compared to the worst of their competition.

When RAW was a metal mag I preferred it to Kerrang.

Raw Patrick, Thursday, 5 June 2008 13:46 (seventeen years ago)

Me too

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 5 June 2008 13:47 (seventeen years ago)

That issue also came free with that month's Select, in a cardboard box which also had a free packet of Nik-Naks. Let's get things into perspective

DJ Mencap, Thursday, 5 June 2008 13:47 (seventeen years ago)

I always preferred Melody Maker and RAW to NME & Kerrang.

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 5 June 2008 13:47 (seventeen years ago)

Select was overrated. Did love the stone roses box issue though i must admit.

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 5 June 2008 13:48 (seventeen years ago)

2nd cover of RAW as a britpop mag

http://www.thestoneroses.co.uk/images/Raw1995_1.jpg

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 5 June 2008 13:49 (seventeen years ago)

The whole article
http://www.thestoneroses.co.uk/press/1995-12-06-raw.html

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 5 June 2008 13:50 (seventeen years ago)

Raw Magazine was a biweekly heavy metal magazine published by EMAP.

The magazine was a rival to Kerrang! which was published by the people behind Sounds. However, when the publisher of Sounds and Kerrang! decided to concentrate on trade papers such as Music Week, the Kerrang! brand was sold onto EMAP who decided it was the stronger brand amongst Metal fans.

Due to this, Raw Magazine was relaunched in the mid 1990s as a biweekly sister magazine to EMAP's monthly Select, with its musical focus shifted from that of metal to that of Britpop. This relaunch confused longterm readers, and with sales falling, the magazine did not manage to survive into the 2000s.

In 1993 a weekly television programme named Raw Power was launched to accompany the magazine. It later changed its name to Noisy Mothers when Raw ceased publication.

Raw Power and Noisy Mothers was great.

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 5 June 2008 13:52 (seventeen years ago)

Krusher's Kingdom 4ever.

Raw Patrick, Thursday, 5 June 2008 14:19 (seventeen years ago)

I liked Metal Hammer the best.

chap, Thursday, 5 June 2008 14:22 (seventeen years ago)

let's see em try to re-brand a mag called 'Metal Hammer' as being about britpop.

chap, Thursday, 5 June 2008 14:23 (seventeen years ago)

somewhere in my parents' attic are about 20 videos ful of episodes of raw power.

used to love RAW, but somehow I've deleted its britpop years from my memory.

m the g, Thursday, 5 June 2008 14:35 (seventeen years ago)

That'll be because it was britpop months not years. It didn't last long.

Raw Patrick, Thursday, 5 June 2008 16:29 (seventeen years ago)

As if by magic, Dalston Oxfam Shop post a tape of Gallon Drunk and a load of their contemporaries.

Neil S, Friday, 6 June 2008 11:26 (seventeen years ago)

Must download that when I get home, I still have the tape somewhere. Only really weak track is the Dog Hunch one IIRC. The Jacob's Mouse track is particularly good.

aldo, Friday, 6 June 2008 11:38 (seventeen years ago)

Honeycrack deserved to be one of the biggest bands of the late 90s. Sadly they weren't.

the next grozart, Friday, 6 June 2008 11:40 (seventeen years ago)

They should have renamed the magazine "noisy mothers", they'd have sold tons of subscriptions in the first couple weeks.

Mark G, Friday, 6 June 2008 11:47 (seventeen years ago)

I had that cassette. It wasn't as good as the Lime Liz Sup Pop one w/Pavitt and Poneman's top ten anglo tracks on the sleeve though.

Raw Patrick, Friday, 6 June 2008 11:48 (seventeen years ago)

I have loads of Raw Power and Noisy Mothers on tape. I also watched it previously when it was called The Power Hour.

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 6 June 2008 13:46 (seventeen years ago)

Ricky from the Almighty's rock wife: where are you now?

Neil S, Friday, 6 June 2008 13:48 (seventeen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Tracklisting for the actual and real new Wildhearts covers album:

AC Rocket - Foil
Geez Louise - The Unband
Understanding Jane - The Icicle Works
The World Comes Tumblin’ - The Distillers
Unsung - Helmet
Waiting Room - Fugazi
Ice Hockey Hair - Super Furry Animals
Possum Kingdom - Toadies
Pep Talk - Descendents
Rocket 69 - The Lee Harvey Oswald Band
Battleship Chains - Georgia Satellites
Rearrange You - Baby Chaos
Everyday Formula - Regurgitator
The Judge - Soul Asylum
Carmelita - Warren Zevon

DJ Mencap, Monday, 23 June 2008 14:45 (seventeen years ago)

two years pass...

This was in my head for some weird reason this morning (hadn't heard it in at least a decade) and I was surprised to find it on youtube. So I am posting it here so Herman G. Neuname can laugh at me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REZJN1dP0qM

what is he like? the guy's a juggalo, man (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 21:45 (fifteen years ago)


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