why is it suddenly cool to listen to phil collins

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9/11

phil collins has always been awesome

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s1ocki OTM, the reason it's cool to like phil collins now is that there's no God

its cool like phil collins now because it wasnt cool 10 years ago

thats how cool works, if you dont get it then youll never be cool

lol

it's cool b/c it was so uncool for so long, isn't that how it always is?

i saw that you already posted that max, but i submitted it anyway becuase i wanted you to see that i see

it's cool b/c it was so uncool for so long, isn't that how it always is?

Generally this. But God makes an exception where hating Phil Collins' music is concerned. It's still cool to hate Phil Collins' music.

i like some solo phil collins but not other solo phil collins. i also like a lot of the later-period genesis more than i like the earlier stuff.

hahaha daniel

i hate phil collins

thing i hate more than phil collins: logging in to post something and then being logged out by an intercepting xpost.

sorry, meta

phil collins tho is a really good party subject-of-conversation. people have things to say

Things to say like, "man he went bald early!"

its only cool to listen to "in the air tonight" also its always been cool to listen to "in the air tonight"

NO HAIRPIECE REQUIRED

he is a good drummer

phil collins is a weird figure that gets cathected with a lot of nonsense

i think if you bring phil collins up at a party someone inevitably wants to put him on

its impossible to have an opinion about the guy without it being a challops i think

its only cool to listen to "in the air tonight" also its always been cool to listen to "in the air tonight"

-- jhøshea, Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:09 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

ie it's all michael mann's fault.

either being like, "i hate that dude, hes awful" or ppl like me who want to 'reclaim' him or whatever

jbr's stance is the most sensible but who wants to be sensible where phil is concerned

hating on this guy is so not challenging.

challenging is saying "but aaaaah! 'jesus he knows me' had some great drum fills" or whatever the fuck.

instead of letting this phil collins drive us apart we should focus on our agreement that the lyrics of "in the air tonight" are indeed some profound shit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_The_Air_Tonight#Urban_legend

"in the air tonight" is stone-classic esp. when youre high but there are a lot of gems in his catalog--"im not moving" for example. even sussuido is pretty great.

my ringtone is "just a job to do"

"even sussuido is pretty great."

no-one wants to call you bateman, but you don't make it easy.

bought that 12" for some reason

sounded good hearing it again in the store :-/

PHILL COLLINS FAQ

i have the sussudio seven inch

i was v into the genesis album invisible touch when i was 10

lol great name for an album

Voting Conservative, he declared a while ago, used to be as uncool as liking Phil Collins - but not any more.

'Once a party becomes too aligned with fashion you're on dangerous ground,' warns Bronwyn Cosgrave.

As usual, Bronwyn's so right - look what happened to Himmler's SS. Once black wasn't the new black they became so yesterday.

- Chubbarow, Nottingham, 19/5/2008 12:15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xtbWjiXNzo&feature=related

^^^ fantastic video for i wish it would rain down feat. jefferey tambor

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we need Chubbarow on ILX now.

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the words of the song are so true

Phil Collins is every bit as cool as Jethro Tull.

i am listening to the invisible touch now

still remember all the lyrics

the way you bold that is really cracking me up for some reason

it demands it really - i am just the vessel

invisible touch video was so fucking ridiculous

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/db/InvisibleTouch86.jpg/200px-InvisibleTouch86.jpg

Answer to thread title:
Collaborating with Bone Thugs N Harmony can do that do a guy is all.

Phil Collins is awesome because of this:
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?episode=339

In the wake of a break-up, writer Starlee Kine finds so much comfort in break-up songs that she decides to try and write one herself—even though she has no musical ability whatsoever. For some help, she goes to a rather surprising expert on the subject: Phil Collins.

instead of letting this phil collins drive us apart we should focus on our agreement that the lyrics of "in the air tonight" are indeed some profound shit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_The_Air_Tonight#Urban_legend

Why didn't someone start this urban legend about "Pink Frost?"

lol I can't even believe this question is being asked

19-year-olds are now saying Phil Collins is cool because 27- to 50-year-olds are saying he sucks. It's the circle of life.

ps Invisible Touch is still awesome even though Phil is a big douchebag

res's 19 yo cousin is quite the taste maker it seems.

it's not important or even interesting to be challenging banriqit

bone thugs n phil is the most synergistic collabo in history

They both put that dark, dark shit into their pop songs.

phil has been cool ever since i had to break dance to Sussudio for a bunch of grown-ups at a party when i was 10

my drummer is in love with Phil Collins. the first time he told me, I thought he was joking. the second time, I accused him of joking. the third time, I was like "whatever." now I just accept it.

but inside I say "whatever".

that was a great story

zing

whatever

i can never tell who is joking anymore

Maybe your drummer's heard him play on Another Green World.

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Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where, uh, Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don't you, uh, dance a little. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as, uh, anything I've heard in rock. Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your ass. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and, uh, Against All Odds. Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.

i know, i actually really did enjoy your story Dominique but then it sounded like a zing

thanks Bod

Is it cool to hate Tony Banks or Mike Rutherford?

It's always been cool to hate Tony Banks!

Forgot to take out the porny bits before I Ctrl V'd.

Oh well.

I saw Phil Collins at the Tacoma Dome. I was 20 and working in an office and my co-worker Dave (English guy who had come to the U.S. to play darts professionally, married an American, cleaned up and found that he couldn't play darts as well sober, so became a claims-reviewer at the student-loan guarantor where we worked) had an extra ticket, and he was really excited to go. I knew every song -- anyone would. "In The Air Tonight" started with this long drawn-out dissonant guitar solo. About five minutes into it, Dave turned to me, and it was clear that he didn't want any more of this arty stuff, and then the song started with Phil behind the drums, just him and the guitarist I think, and boom, best song of the concert. And then Phil encouraged us to make food or cash donations to the homeless on our way out.

Maybe your drummer's heard him play on Another Green World

maybe. but he likes all his solo stuff and genesis. last year, when genesis came to the bay, he had no money but still wanted to go. so, he went out the colliseum with his gf, hung out, looked poor, and eventually someone gave him two tickets. good ones too.

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that's okay surmounter, it's partly because of my drummer's love of PC that makes me unable to recognize jokes

lol "Sabrina, remove your dress"

priceless scene, really

that scene must have done a lot for phil collins album sales

Look before you paste, is the lesson here. I was actually hoping someone would just respond to it as if it were a regular post (if they hadn't read/seen AP.)

Nobody in the entire world hasn't seen that already.

phil rocking in 9/8 with Brand X: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmP8NC2EOLE

Yeah. Worth a try, I 'spose.

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That Brand X song is pretty wild.

nuclear burn is the cut.

it's not important or even interesting to be challenging banriqit

-- J0hn D., Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:33 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

i know that you retard, that's my whole point.

It's cool to like Phil because black people (categorically, you know) like Phil.

has anyone on this thread yet brought up the fact that jhoshea also LIKES PIZZA DIPPED IN RANCH SAUCE

sometimes people are just wrong. there is no shame in stating as much.

Look before you paste, is the lesson here. I was actually hoping someone would just respond to it as if it were a regular post (if they hadn't read/seen AP.)

God kids today can't even cook up their own challops.

second-hand challopies

dipped in ranch sauce

i've been wondering for years who billy is. why does it matter if s/he loses his number?

I'm sure the solution is buried somewhere in the first two seasons of Miami Vice.

Q: Who is Billy in "Don't Lose My Number"?

A: "DON'T LOSE MY NUMBER.... This was mostly written at the time of Face Value. The lyrics were improvised, so I don't really know what they mean."

"Also it's about a teen-prostitute"

(VH-1 Storytellers, Hollywood, April 14, 1997)

stupid people think it's cool. cool people think it's a joke - also cool.

Is it cool to hate Tony Banks or Mike Rutherford?

Yes, yes it is.

is it cool yet to like steve hackett?

rikki don't lose that number

phil collins is so post-irony.

phil collins is cool because this video is a litmus test for how many layers of irony you're able to wrap your head around at once.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=p7q1H3VKdp0

is it cool yet to like steve hackett?

I had to Wiki that name. After leaving Genesis, he co-founded the supergroup GTR. And so, to answer your question: "No."

Answering questions is easy.

Q: Who is Billy in "Don't Lose My Number"?

A: "DON'T LOSE MY NUMBER.... This was mostly written at the time of Face Value. The lyrics were improvised, so I don't really know what they mean."

"Also it's about a teen-prostitute"

(VH-1 Storytellers, Hollywood, April 14, 1997)

HAHA, see? The guy has comic timing.

Reminds me of this.

i'd had this weird development w/ collins myself recently sorta also - appearances in gta:vcs and an old this american life i heard made me think 'this guy's not a twat at all possibly', i was more frequently exposed to the songs i love by him ('in the air tonight' obv as well as 'easy lover' and 'against all odds'), less frequently exposed to the songs i'm bleh whatever by him ('one more night', 'groovy kind of love', 'take me home'), pretty much never exposed to the songs i hate by him that i could remember ('another day in paradise'). he was in this weird eagles zone of never coulda predicted tolerance. and then out of the fucking blue i heard 'i can't dance' one night. and i remembered what's so awful about phil collins.

hahaha "I Can't Dance" is an atrocity against music across the globe

I had to Wiki that name.

daniel, esq., does your wiki tell you of hackett's first solo album, voyage of the acolyte? that album is a huge jam, a big influence on richard youngs' prog project, ilk? why thread-wise this is extremely relevant, besides the fact that that it rules, is (i think) that was the first album philco sang lead vox on. and i'm not even a phil fan

Hold . . . Hold . . .

Yes Wiki tells me of that album.

dude! it rules. a lot. i've heard steve did it because genesis was leaning toward not being weird enough. maybe it helped inspire phil's forays into brand x fusion? not that phil's studio experience drumming on another green world didn't also open doors of perception. the distance betwee how weird a lot of these guys were in the mid-70s, and then how straight they were playing it a decade or so later ("sussudio," gtr) intrigues me a little

FFS the answer to 'why is it suddenly cool' is obviously this thing: http://youtube.com/watch?v=TnzFRV1LwIo

Why can't we hate Mike Rutherford? Is it 'cause he looks like Jesus? I just know somewhere there's footage of him holding his bandmates' families captive, drunkenly demanding another "Your Own Special Way" or "Follow You, Follow Me" at gunpoint.

We can't hate him, because one day he'll be gone, and we will wish we had appreciated his masterful command of metaphor... in the living years.

You guys Brand X is fucking awesome. My opinion of the rest of his work doesn't really matter when put next to "Running on Three."

http://www.progreviews.com/reviews/images/BX-UB.jpg

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/may/19/polls.labour

It's cool to listen to Phil Collins?

It's cool to listen to Phil Collins!

srsly every time I start wondering to myself "wait why did I start hating Phil Collins?" the answer is almost always "oh yeah, 'I Can't Dance'"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/content/images/2007/11/21/genesis_203_203x152.jpg

"I say, lookit all the douches on this thread."

My god, the last time I heard 'I Can't Dance' was when I was 10 years old and it was on TV all the time. That song has been collectively forgotten by the world.

NO IT HASN'T

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/RSPOD/RS448~Phil-Collins-Rolling-Stone-no-448-May-1985-Posters.jpg

I certainly can't speak to his coolness, but between Phil-led Genesis (up 'til Invisible Touch) and let's say the first two, maybe three solo records, I can think of probably 10-12 good-to-great songs. Lots of "cool" artists/bands can't say that.

Phil is so very punchable but I still love a good 75% of Invisible Touch practically unconditionally.

Yeah, I used to play the cassette tape of Invisible Touch on my walkman all the time when I was a kid. Haven't heard it since then.

CAN'T YOU SEE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE?!?

yes, I should've said up through Invisible Touch, because it is defintely more good than suck

"Domino" is a fantastic song. When those programmed drums kick in...

Phil is so very punchable

Yeah, and that Rolling Stone cover Alfred posted upthread shows why.

CAN'T YOU SEE WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO ME?

Mark Kozalek did a nice cover of "Follow You Follow Me" last night at the Boston MFA...

If i were a bartender in Williamsburg I'd be playing I Can't Dance on loop. I can't get that song outof my head now!!!!!! It's like 1992 all over again...

a Phil POX:

Follow You Follow Me
Misunderstanding
Turn it on again
No Reply at All
Abacab
That's All
Taking It All Too Hard
I Missed Again
Anything she does
The Brazilian

A POX on Phil morelike

lolz

the only way I can tolerate "Abacab" is to imagine that he's really singing "happy cat"...

OMIGOD

At the cafeteria a couple of minutes ago I heard "Separate Lives"!

the best drag performance I ever saw was of "Separate Lives" & I fucking mist up just thinking about it

I must say, it's a terrible song.

The way he sings the word "hotel" in the first line of "Separate Lives" was pop Chernobyl.

Tracy: “I’m gonna make you a mix tape, Jack Donaghy. You like Phil Collins?”

Jack: “I have two ears and a heart, don’t I?”

i like will's pox, although sub out the last 2 for "in the air tonight" and "easy lover."

what i hated about him at the time was that it seemed like he made all rock and r&b production sound like that for about 5 years. it wasn't really only him, obviously, but he epitomized that sound and evangelized it. but in retrospect it's a pretty great sound, and it was only its ubiquity and its presence on a lot of shit tracks that made me hate it.

i always thought the horns, while a nice touch, sounded kinda pussy and overly compressed (cf. I Missed Again)

Because of hipsters.

So, college kids today were running around the house listening to music without judgement when late-period Genesis and solo Phil were in their platinum years. Same way that Graceland is coming back, it makes sense that Phil C. is popular as a toddler nostalgia act as well.

He was mainstream in a way no one will ever be mainstream again.

There's no revisionism in my case. I liked a lot of those Collins/Genesis hits; and Graceland is superior to anything in their catalogue.

What do you hate the most about "I Can't Dance" Dan? Is it just the entirety of the song itself or are you reacting to some kinda perceived anti-dance manifesto in the lyrics? (Assuming such sentiments are actually explicit, that is: I can barely recall the track at all, it left zero impact, and I sure as hell never bothered to learn even a single lyric.)

wait, so there really are a bunch of lady jeans-wearing dorks running around 'reclaiming' Phil? I'm really out of the loop.

I guess it's fine as long as they're extolling Duke and not trying to re-appraise Buster as some long lost lol genius classic.

What do you hate the most about "I Can't Dance" Dan? Is it just the entirety of the song itself or are you reacting to some kinda perceived anti-dance manifesto in the lyrics?

I'll give it a try.

I hate the processed guitar riff. I hate Collins' yowl on the chorus. Most of all, I hate the band's use of self-mockery-as-self-aggrandizement. It's the Paul McCartney Syndrome: Collins twinkles oh-so-cutely to hide his megalomania.

wait, so there really are a bunch of lady jeans-wearing dorks running around 'reclaiming' Phil? I'm really out of the loop.

-- will, Thursday, June 12, 2008 12:00 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

no - thats the funny joke abt this thread

Alfred OTM, plus the album it comes from is a pile of dicks.

"No Son Of Mine"... *shudder*

oic

xp

except for res' 19 y/o cousin of course - whos mom jeans ownership status we have yet to be apprised of

watching Banks, Collins, and Rutherford walking down the beach, even if it's done in a spirit of self-mockery, is like looking at pictures of Nazi tanks entering Prague.

it's weird to think there was a time when that big riff processed guitar sound was considered normal.

loling @ 10 y/o self thinking land of confusion had a deep message

loling harder @ genesis writing a song w/a deep message that could only appeal to a 10 y/o

I got the Abacab reissue and it was pretty good. Finally decided to listen to Face Value for the first time yesterday and it totally stinks. You can blame it on a decade's worth of abuse of that goddamn gated drum sound. The parts of American Psycho that espouse the virtues of Huey Lewis and Phil Collins were supposed to highlight the nadir of the eighties -- numb, soulless narcissism, gluttony, greed and consumerism. Funny as hell that movie.

blame it for, not on.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/4/40/Genesis-Land-of-confusion-single-cover.jpg

The parts of American Psycho that espouse the virtues of Huey Lewis and Phil Collins were supposed to highlight the nadir of the eighties -- numb, soulless narcissism, gluttony, greed and consumerism.

One of the many reasons why I dislike that novel is the pseudo-irony in which those drooly paens to Lewis and Collins are couched, so you're encouraged to snigger at soulless, gluttonous, narcissistic Collins and Lewis. Lewis can be boring a lot of times, but he's not any of those things you're supposed to glean from Ellis' tone.

Alfred, "Sports" was the quintessential '80s yuppie album, it's entire appropriate.

Collins is a terrible singer with a thin voice and ham-fisted delivery.

That's not Huey's fault!

the movie is amazing tho

nostalgia = beyond judgment

Is Phil Collins's vesion of "You Can't Hurry Love" the lamest cover attempt of all time? Might be.

THE ZERO GENERATION

i wear men's jeans

Is Phil Collins's vesion of "You Can't Hurry Love" the lamest cover attempt of all time? Might be.

Are you forgetting "Groovy Kind of Love"?

why is it suddenly cool to dress like phil collins... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSfJSJcDHkA

anyone else have a soft spot for Cafe Jacques? I think phil played drums on Round the Back.

"I Can't Dance" = AKA the we-cant-pee-we-cant-poo song.

Alfred OTM, plus the album it comes from is a pile of dicks.

"No Son Of Mine"... *shudder*

-- HI DERE

OK, thanks for the answer(s)!

I wasn't sure if you were maybe drawing a line in the sand on the dancefloor and taking some kinda stance in an imaginary war between the forces of good (dancers) and evil (non-dancers), in which case I would've had to protest on behalf of choreographically-challenged folks like myself who want no part in such a struggle. I'm a proud owner of hundreds of disco albums and think that dancing is a wonderful activity for other people, but will never set foot on a dancefloor ever again without a hefty dose of horse tranquilizer (which could only help me improve, who knows?)

What about his artistic, enlightened take on illegal immigration?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7q1H3VKdp0

his least defensible song is "another day in paradise." jesus christ does that shit suuuuuck

What is some recent music with drum breaks?

"Another Day In Paradise" is perfectly fine musically. I agree those "I want to pretend I care without saying anything controversial" lyrics suck bigtime though.

Is Phil Collins's vesion of "You Can't Hurry Love" the lamest cover attempt of all time? Might be.

Are you forgetting "Groovy Kind of Love"?

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, June 12, 2008 5:26 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Link

Lou Reed, "Soul Man"

"I Can't Dance" was my favourite song when I was nine.

I should point out that I loathe Phil Collins and have on occasion enjoyed Lou Reed, so...

Is Phil Collins's vesion of "You Can't Hurry Love" the lamest cover attempt of all time?

Lamont Dozier absolutely loves it. Surely, it may be because he thinks the original is perfect, because Phil Collins didn't really add anything to it other than male vocals.

He's just an inconsistent guy. Genesis s/t is pretty good with its moody numbers, but then in the middle of it you get this number.

Other than the lyrics, "Illegal Aliean" isn't all that bad. (And lyrics aren't music)

Early 80s Collins with the atmospheric synths and and stuff is awesome. I thought that was just a given.

I think that's the answer to the Phil Collins resurgence. The 20-somethings now were raised on Genesis ruling the airwaves.

that illegal alien vid has been posted something like 3 times now. i'd never heard the song until today. i was embarrassed for them while watching it. ugh.

"Illegal Alien" is the most explicitly political song the group has yet recorded and their funniest. The subject is supposed to be sad -- a wetback trying to get across the border into the United States -- but the details are highly comical: the bottle of tequila the Mexican holds, the new pair of shoes he's wearing (probably stolen); and it all seems totally accurate. Phil sings it in a brash, whiny pseudo-Mexican voice that makes it even funnier, and the rhyme of "fun" with "illegal alien" is inspired.

but he's not any of those things you're supposed to glean from Ellis' tone.

Lewis and Collins seem to be down to earth blokes who anyone would enjoy having a beer with. It's just a complex relationship, how their music was produced, the particular culture of the time and place and context in which they were consumed...

this is a good one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7q1H3VKdp0

make that four

I can't believe no one's mentioned the wonderfulness of "Easy Lover," but maybe because Philip Bailey deserves as much if not more credit.

Parody thread I will not actually start:

"Why is it suddenly cool to listen to Dr. Phil call-ins?"

Easy Lover

I'd be happy having that song on a desert-island mix.

EL is Phil Collins's best work as a clotheshorse.

Is Phil Collins's vesion of "You Can't Hurry Love" the lamest cover attempt of all time? Might be.

No. Nothing can top this hideous abomination.

Good timing, thread. Last week I caught myself enjoying 'Something Happened on the Way to Heaven', and this week I played the entirety of 'Genesis' without vomiting. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON

and right now I'm listening to 'Invisible Touch' (sans 'In Too Deep, obviously) and actually appreciating parts of it. Someone's putting something heinous in the water, dead set.

People people, it's all baout the Tony Banks love, come on.

Trying to sit through Abacab, failing. He's doing that awful 'oi didn't do it guv' routine.

Someone's putting something heinous in the water

Spoiler alert. "The Happening"? Phil Collins.

Misunderstanding is great. So is Man On The Corner. I like his drumming (80s-ish as it was) on I Know There's Something Going On.

But the vast majority of the rest of his stuff . . . ugggghhh.

i like will's pox, although sub out the last 2 for "in the air tonight" and "easy lover."

tipsy's right. I was meant to give "Easy Lover" an honorable mention, but you could definitely replace "Anything She Does" with "In the Air Tonight". And i think when I put down "the Brazilian" I actually meant "Domino", but after just listening to the Braz I'm not sure anymore...

was

I have to say, Collins is about the only thing I dont like much about Genesis. I watched the new live DVD from their 2007 tour the other night and there's a scene where he hams it up with a tambourine err... "dance" that he's done since the 70s (copied off Gabriel, I assume?) and it was painfully cringeworthy.

Also, on the extra DVD "behind the scenes" doco, he was being a complete grumpy little old cunge. "wah wah I have to get home to my kids".

Also, that bit in "Mama" with the "HA HA HA!" - classic or ridic?

Ridic.

Classic the first time, ridic by the 97th

PWEI ripped off the "Mama" drum loop as the riff in one of their songs, which I only realised recently.

I like "Abacab". I only discovered this the other day. I never realised it was a genesis song! I am slow.

C'mon guys, "Against All Odds" should be all over this thread. A brilliant song, and that's no even taking its karaoke potential into consideration!

I made a cd with this cover

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2378/2487686581_7b49b904db_m.jpg

I only just realised that, thanks to this thread, the only music I've listened to all day is Phil Collins. Fuck this thread.

Anyway, if the kids find Phil Collins cool again, hopefully they will also check out what he contributed to pre the 80s. That was better than his 80s material, even though the latter (particularly the first three solo albums) is better than its reputation as well.

hopefully they will also check out what he contributed to pre the 80s. That was better than his 80s material

we have ^^^ truth bomb and we have ^^^ challops but we don't have ^^^ der freddie

Adverts, drugs, the re-emergence of Maroon 5?! I don't know. I'm too drunk for this shit.

phil collins/genesis songs that i like:

"in the air tonight"
"mama"
"take me home"
"i don't care anymore"
"home by the sea" (this is a "suite," right?)
"misunderstanding"
"follow you/follow me" (god help me)
"illegal alien" (if you can ignore the borderline [no pun intended] racist lyrics)
"that's all" (why so little love for THIS one, given this board's unabasbed pop love?!?)

Eleventh Earl of Mar is all flavours of epic.

this is why:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Person_Pitch