Talkin baot music w yours truliest, Abbott

do you like the smiths?

I heard "How Soon is Now?" and I kept trying to find out which Depeche Mode album it was. At 16, I discovered it was the Smiths.

I like the Smiths.

rolling abbott music thread!

OH YOU BET

Trivia:

Tina Root, lead singer of Switchblade Symphony, says her main influence in singing style is: Mike Patton.

Fact:

I do not look like any notable music-type people.

I am greatly pleased by this thread.

DAEREST ABBOTT -- in the way back when you used to be a Radiohead fan; are you now still? If so why so, if not why not.

Truth:

David Sylvian looks better without makeup.

DAEREST ABBOTT what are your top ten fave bands and albums?

Abbott

Why are depeche mode remixes always so disappointing?

MY FINE MR. RAGGETT:

I stopped totally digging Radiohead circa...Hail to the Thief? Which I never even really listened to (tho I bought the special edition, haha). Maybe I listened to it 2x all the way through. It reminded me of how SAD I was all the fucking time listening to Radiohead, getting all sucked into Amnesiac. I mean after OK Computer there are is no brightness or cheer. Not that that is necessary, but...I don't know. They just quit making dreamy music, and they reminded me of past depression. those are the main reasons. I haven't even listened to anything since then. (Plz no one try and convince me to.)

Upt0eleven,

A remix is essentially a carbon-dating technique for a song, IMO, and that's about it. All remixes from one year sound miraculously similar. That may be why.

I can't fucking believe they released a what, five? six? boxset of remixes!!!

Jesus, Hermannn, sheesh. Let's give this a go. Fave ten albums:

XTC – Big Express
Human League – Dare
Pink Floyd – Meddle
K8 Bush – The Dreaming
Henry Cow – Leg End
Blue Öyster Cult – Secret Treaties
Coil – Horse Rotovator
Japan – Gentlemen Take Polaroids
Roxy Music – Country Life
Tomahawk – Mit Gas

Abbott, have you ever heard the first Slapp Happy album entitled Sort Of?

I cosign with Sleeve that if you have not heard this fine Slapp Happy album that you should.

Ten fave bands:

XTC
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum
Kate Bush
Devo
Cardiacs
Siouxsie & the Banshees
This Heat
Fela Kuti
ABC
Depeche Mode

(This is kind of darts in the dark actually.)

I have never heard this Slapp Happy album!!

OK check your email in a little while.

also, TS: Acnalbasac Noom vs. Casablanca Moon

Acnalbasac Noom! I think I am in the minority here.

"Blue-Eyed William" is so sweet and golden.

I liked Dagmar best in SH, surprisingly enough. :O

Abbott why do you hate the rap music so much?

Interesting note: Harry Chapin wrote a poem about his girlfriend shitting on his chest.

Z S,

heterozygous dominant disease.

Why you bring up my birth defects and all?

Abbott,

What are your favorite disabled singers?

Who! Who! No more mistakes, starting...NOW!

Abbott,

How much do I need to hear that Coil album? They're a band I'm greatly intrigued by.

YOU NEED IT BAD

nb I am not Abbott but you really do need it

Dear LJ,

You need to hear it instead of Mercury Rev, I'll tell you that much.

It is RADICAND. I also like Scatology.

Srsly LJ you will love it.

Z S sad to say it is Kids of Whidney High ;_;

LJ needs to hear CHROME

I have Musick To Play In The Dark 1 and it's awesome, I'll doubtless be adding to my collection soon! I don't doubt for a second I'll love it. And I'm only going on about the Rev tonight because of new album excitement.

If I'm allowed a return suggestion, btw, Coil collaborator Thighpaulsandra's debut album "I, Thighpaulsandra" is genuinely something special.

Oh hell yeah!

Srsly how much Coil/Stapleton/Tibet/Death in June inbreeding IS there?

lots, although DIJ got kicked out of the family sometime in the late 90's I think.

Cld someone plz make a flowchart?

BTW is this OUTLIER of 'Thunder Perfect Mind' albums any good?

http://www.brainticket.com/shopbt/images/cat/pale%20divine%20-%20thunder%20perfect.jpg

Abbott you should post on the rolling metal thread

Abbott, you've HEARD "I, Thighpaulsandra"??! WOW, I thought it was my little ILX secret...but yay! "Michel Publicity Window" ft all-time w

I r read ur mind

I hardly even like any metal at all!

Coil – Horse Rotovator

<3 <3 <3

Abbott you should post to ILM more!

yeah srsly

haha

that is the word on CHATZ right now

which is why I started this thread

Guilty Pleasure: PWEI – "Def Con One"

We scared Curtis off chatz

What do you think of A Flock of Seagulls?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwSnSsT0w4I

whoa I have never even heard of that Pale Divine record

I love Flock of Seagulls! "Wishing (A Photograph of You)" (IIRC that's how the title goes) is one of my faves. They did their own thing, I totally dig.

Dear Abbott,

Could you plz remind Crutis that as a lad in possession of (nearly) all Cardiacs studio output ever he might find it beneficial to give em a good try?

Yrs

It looks like you just did that in a strong and encouraging way yourself.

That said, anytime the Cardiacs need a blurb for a press sheet or album cover sticker, I'm a go-to, and they are v good, and maybe someone here might be reCRUTed soon....?

(This is assuming he hasn't purged his hard-drive since our epic transatlantic AIM session, which also involved me receiving The Chameleons' "What Does Anything Mean, Basically")

(which is a very good album that I listen to hint hint) ;-)

Chameleons UK are a WIN.

ABBOTT what was your 1st ever gig and 1st ever record or cd you bought with your own money as a kid?

Haha my first concert was Bob Dylan in Pocatello, Idaho! I worked for the SE Idaho newspaper at the time, writing for the 'teen' section (I was 16). I eventually wrangled my editor into giving me a ticket (the pape got a bunch for free).

First album I bought was a cassette of the Beach Boys 'Greatest Hits' from a grocery store at age six. Catch a wave!

(Grocery store was 'Smiths Food King' in Green River, Wyoming.)

Abbott please give us your opinion on this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAh_A7N3_mc

do you like any of these artists:

a. discharge
b. napalm death
c. rudimentary peni
d. menudo

It is totally out of control. <3 'Brand New Key,' <3 agriculture and farm equipment, lyrics are fun, but the guy's voice is kind of grating.

But 'brand new combine harvester!' Are all their songs like that joek personal ad:

"Looking for woman
must be loving, pretty and sweet.
Must own a tractor.

Please send picture of tractor"

???

a. discharge – do not know
b. napalm death – reminds me of an ex-boyfriend
c. rudimentary peni – annpoying but they have a funny name
d. menudo – have never actually heard one of their jams but I v much enjoy the concept of how this band works

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zwwqEm5YhQ&feature=related
one of their other hits

Fact: Weird Al was my favoritest in eighth grade.

This thread is one of the great successes of ILM. And it was all born on AIM CHATZ.

xpost yes! and tell us about the Dr. Demento albums.

AND YES DAVID SYLVIAN DOES LOOK BETTER WITHOUT MAKEUP THANK YOU VERY MUCH

I agree everyone should listen to Horse Rotorvator by Coil!

Also PWEI should not be a guilty pleasure.

"Gimme Big Mac gimme fries to go!"

Abbot do you like the Cockney Rejects?

how u feel re: scritti politti

I have never heard the Cockney Rejects.

I really liked this one Scritti Politti song and I looked for it forever on albums. Turns out it was actually an Art of Noise song. In this process, I got Cupid & Psyche at a library sale and could not get into it. FWIW.

In this process, I got Cupid & Psyche at a library sale and could not get into it

likewise ftw

Aw you guys just don't understand...well what Art Of Noise song was it?

Item: My favorite U.S. state song is the state song of Massachusetts, called Massachusetts.

I don't remember the name of the Art of Noise song but we played it at our wedding. I could ask my husband but I don't want to interrupt his homework/grilled cheese sandwich party.

Fred Frith on his own? Y/N

No wait, that is the state FOLK song. HERE, HERE is the business. Sorry if you listened to the last one.

abbott what does grilled cheese sandwich party really mean?

Sundar I have only heard 'Gravity' but I dig it quite a bit.

It means he just cooked two sandwiches w/extra sharp cheddar cheese and wheat bread on the George Foreman grill and is eating them.

Hahahah my roomate used to have the George Foreman grill.

Abbot, what is yr favourite Cramps song?

thats an incredibly boring answer

i no longer support your campaign for ilx mod

abbott how do you feel about postpunk

Favorite Cramps song...I like their cover of "Fever," but it is probably 'Human Fly.'

Hoos, if you mean like Mogwai and shit...*shrugs*

I like that I suddenly have a Big Campaign for Vote Me as ILX Mod. ???

Abbott how do you feel about drone infiltrating doom metal in recent years?

We played Human Fly at our wedding. The DJ didn't like it very much.

Hoos, if you mean like Mogwai and shit...*shrugs*

-- Abbott, Saturday, August 30, 2008 2:24 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

nahhhhhhhhhhhh like Gang of Four or Pop Group or The Slits or Devo

xpost

Okay woah woah woah woah woah woah. Wait just one minute. With all due respect to all parties involved, post-punk does not equal Mogwai. You must have thought he said post-rock.

Oh well fuck yeah I'm all over that, it is like dear golden nuggets of Kellogg's Corn Pops.

I was thinking of "postrock." My husband is always astonished that I am so tepid about "postrock."

Abbott how do you feel about drone infiltrating doom metal in recent years?

I think it is a great thing that has happened to doom. Like who would've thought Isis or someone could be so swoony? I dig it way more than, say, Electric Wizard.

Kellogg's Corn Pops!!!!
BHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Oh my god, I think this is the pinnacle of ILX for tonight, and that's saying something.

abbot what is your favorite guitar riff in a song?

I like Duane Eddy's "Rebel Rouser" intro bcz it is the first song I ever figured out how to play on guitar by ear. (And that was about as far as I got.)

Riff/solo in "Head Over Heels" makes me rock out every time.

When the rebels are finally roused in the song, w/the horn and their hooting and hollering, it kind of gets less awesome.

Huh, I haven't listened to Gravity in a while but I just put it on. It's good fun, if really obviously of its time. It's pretty different from this but I like some of his guitar quartet stuff a lot. If you like, maybe try Upbeat some time.

(I thought you meant Tears for Fears for a second and tried to remember if there's any guitar in that song.)

How hard does Secret Treaties rock?

Secret Treaties rocks it the fucking hardest bcz it rocks it with an ORGAN.

SOMINANCE! Submission. radios appear

Sominance & Dubmission: BÖC dub remixes

what is your favorite synth riff?

Oh man, I will have to think about that.

Riffs in "Don't Kill the Whale" by Yes are pretty meedly wheedlin loving good times.

ORGAN = seriously.

The lead guitar on "Norrgarden Nyvla" rocks it pretty hard too though.

Every time I try & think of how 'The Red & the Black' goes, I can only think of the intro to King Crimson's "The Great Deceiver." Thanks for erasing my brain, KC and the Belew Band!

I have a constellation of the BÖC symbol in my town in Animal Crossing.

Great Deceiver is pre-Belew fyi, mid-70's lineup. I wish I could write out the riff for Red And The Black but I am at a loss.

what is your favorite King Crimson album?

I know that! I love that DAVID CROSS played with them. Yeah, that's right. (har har)

I like Discipline the best, then Starless.

Never listened to anything after the '80s stuff...

KC and the Bruford Band, are you happy now?

Thing: The music in the factory of levels of 'Donkey Kong Country' sounds a lot like Genesis's "Tonight x3" IMO. This could be subconscious thing bcz Collins mentions "coming down like a monkey." But they're not too dissimilar.

sincere apologies for questioning your KC knowledge

haha oh my god this thread is still at the top of New Answers! We have a winner!! :)

haha apologies for over-reacting, sleeve. I know you are not one of those folks what acts like wimmin don't know nuthin.

between the post-punk and the Donkey Kong Country it sounds like we share many tastes

I'm pretty sure on some unconscious level I only listen to Depeche Mode because it sounds like video games

Hahahah Pac Man Fever. Hahaha

Oh my god I bet Pac Man Fever is on You Tube! Oh god, why did I have to think of that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFBKV0zVXSE

Abbott how do you feel about the success of this thread? and do you hope more ladies will post on ILM? (and why don't they post on ILM?)

Herman, I think its success is pretty funny and rad! Is this hom most ILM threads go? I hope more ladies will post everywhere in ILX and I hope they're treated like the fucking awesomed-out peeps that they are.

My main music discussion forums (record store clerks) have been sausage parties. "Holy FUCK you know who _______ is???????" It's mostly okay but man, I don't get the male/female ratio either. I mean even board game/card collector stores have more chick employees.

donkey kong country has the best soundtrack of any video game ever

I've never understood why there's so few female posters on ILM considering how many post on ILE. Maybe you will be a pioneer, Abbott!

Donkey Kong Country 2 has the best soundtrack of any video game ever

aside from Chrono Trigger and Earthbound

Abbott, Fat Elvis or Skinny Elvis?

Skinny Elvis. Sun Records album is the business. My high school guidance counselor loaned it to me, but I lost it and couldn't find it in a store, so he never got it back. I hope he doesn't hate me for it. :{

I've never really heard anything else of his, though. I have a really worn-out, beat-up record of 'Blue Hawaii.' Never put it on bcz it sounds more like a bowl of Rice Krispies than actual music. It is the one thing I own that belonged to my dad's father, who died a LONG time before I was born, when my dad was eight. My dad has maybe ten things that his dad owned, so that my dad gave me this record means a lot to me. I really wish I could've met my grandpa, by all accounts he was a very wonderful guy.

Earthbound has the best video game soundtrack, bar none.

I think I would like to knock 'ABC' of favorite bands and replace with HARRY NILSSON. How the hell did I forget about that guy?

Abbott, check out current soundtracks to Castle Crashers and Braid... fun stuff!

Sim CIty 2k music is pretty dear to my heart but that, I am sure, is largely nostalgia.

Abbott, I find your musical taste to be true and good, just like you.

abbott, the fact that you share my love for Sleepytime Gorilla Museum fills me w/joy.

apropos of nothing, i think that you should listen to Ulver - Blood Inside because i imagine you liking it.

Louis would certainly agree

I have listened to that Ulver album and I v much enjoy it! I also have Perdition City & I can't get into it as much. Should I give it mire than my current 2x cursory listens?

My friend made me an awesome couple of comps with lots of great tracks by meatl-ish bands I'd not yet heard. And some I listened to more of other songs by many of these bands & dug them – Maudlin of the Well, check; Arcturus, check; Solefald, check...but I am sure some of the tracks he picked are just outliers of that band's output. Like am I correct in assuming most Brujeria songs are not at all like "Don Quixote Marijuana"? (If many were like that, I'd listen to them.)

He also gave included what is now like my favorite dance song ever – "Achterbahn" by Blümchen. :D

You should check out Agalloch.

NOTE: Here is the only song I've made, written by a friend and I one lonely night, Rod Stewart in D, about a gas station employee who looks just like Rod Stewart. I do: keyboard, vocals, clapping.

Friend Dustin on guit-fiddle, vocals, clapping.

I can sing better than this if I try, don't worry guys.

Abbott, who is yr fave guitarist from the following list?

Snakefinger
Sonny Sharrock
Fred Frith
Loren Mazzacane Connors
Steve Vai
Keiji Haino
Jimi Hendrix
Link Wray

bahaha actually four years ago all I was doing was sitting alone and listening to Steve Vai and Living Color! (hrmf: stnoed)

This lasted about two months.

Then I discovered THIS:

http://www.satriani.com/discography/Surfing_With_The_Alien/Surfing_With_The_Alien.jpg

Then I got back to my regularly scheduled program of David BOwie.

Abbott, do you have a fave Zappa record, and if so, what is it?

Surprisingly it is Läther.

Abbott, Living Colour was my first show. I was about 11.

Weirdly, for years I was convinced that the opener had been Lungfish - didn't really remember what they were like except that they seemed really weird to my 11 year old mind. Then one day I got to play a show with Daniel Higgs and I was like "Dude, you played at my first show! Living Colour, U. Maryland 1990" or whatever year it was, and he's like "We never played with Living Colour."

Do you like Lungfish?

Abbott what are your fave Krautrock bands/albums?

ha yes i would definitely also like to know if Abbot likes Lungfish

HOW MANY FUCKING MOTORHEAD ALBUMS DO YOU OWN? NAME ME ONE SONG OTHER THAN ACE OF SPADES BY MOTORHEAD! NAME ME FIVE IRON MAIDEN ALBUMS! NOWWWWW!

Abbott what's your opinion of Orbital when drunk?

and sober!

I'm interrupting this game of twenty+ questions to ask an important question...

Which phase of Zoviet France?
a) clank, buzz, scrape
b) transient random tribal-bursts with announcements
c) spaghetti western themes

Abbott which music helps me to win a poker when drunk? it isn't Orbital.

I have never heard Lungfish! Am I missing out?

Which phase of Zoviet France?
a) clank, buzz, scrape
b) transient random tribal-bursts with announcements
c) spaghetti western themes

A, A, A, A, A

I don't know what music aids in drunken poker, but I can tell you that Chuck Mingus helps you win dominoes on mushrooms. Hee hee, little trains!

Abbott did you know theres an aim chatz on?

David M., all I can say is

CAUGHT SOMEWHERE IN TI-YEE-I-YEE-IME! (8/8 bass)

xp thanks Abbott. you're the tops.

Oh wow late to great party. I will just say this:

i) LJ needs Horse Rotorvator. Measure the extent of the dizzying descent. The body in the basin. Bibibibidi bodompompom! Bibibibidi bodompompom!

ii) Tepid on postrock: isn't postrock made to be tepid to? Win!

iii) latebloomer asked "what is your favorite synth riff?". I urge considering the mad synthing that substitutes for a chorus in Propaganda's "P:Machinery". (Old-ilxers may have noticed I go on about this every other year or so).

iv) And at last a nactual question for Abbott: Top five (or ten, or three) classical composers (may include "modern composition" if desired)?

You should check out Agalloch.

-- Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, August 30, 2008 6:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

i second this

Only composer I really have listened to extensively is Debussy, who I <3 very much. And, uh, Prokofiev.

Tomita's albums of classical stuff are kind of fucking rad.

Top two is fine too! Esp as I like both of those. Of Deb I think I only actually own the string quartet, which is VERY fine (as is that of its imitator Ravel; both have pizzicato movements in the same place etc); could you mention other fave Debussy pieces of yours?

Girl with the Flaxen Hair (on piano) (my v favorite), Arabesque #1, Isle of Joy...I guess I like his piano stuff best.

chatz has gone weird

I wouldn't specifically say you're "missing out" with Lungfish, but they have some good stuff.

Abbott come back on chatz

Oh another band you might like is Alcest http://www.myspace.com/alcestmusic

Abbott, you might also like Angelic Process. Several people have raved about them on ILM.

What do you think of corpse paint in black metal? Is it transgressive or silly rabbits playing dress up?

It is silly rabits playing dress up, therefore = awesome. I have always wondered if they wear pajamas to bed of if their evil leather accessories stay on all the time.

Angelic Process were awesome and couldn't be any more highly recommended.

But sadly most of it is OOP now

Abbott did you know that in high school I pretty much only listened to extreme metal and industrial music? Do you still think you made the right choice?

What? You still listen to all that. But not KMFDM anymore. hahaha

I thought you musta rocked some corny indie fuxor shit to try and get into the pants (or vintage skirts, as it were) of Rachel and Ivy and that one Jewish girl. And what's that logo of the devil guy on yr leather jacket that you rocked back at East Jr High? Big Bad Voodoo Daddy or who is that?

That was just a standard cartoon devil head! You think I like Big Bad Voodoo Daddy?

And there's a difference between music I knew existed and pretended to listen to attract girls and music I actually listened to. At one point I had a good 2 days worth (or so winamp said) of just doom metal on my computer.

Hahaha you hate girls who say they like hip bands to impress guys! No wonder you never got to make out with Nadia. :P

No she had terrible taste in music we would fight about music constantly.

Haha what was she into?

It's not too hard to impress guys re: music, but fuck, man, the infamous clerk at RecEx wouldn't LET me buy a Dr. Hook & the Medicine Show album. He hid it behind the counter for weeks! Fuck him, I like Shel's songwriting ways.

Did she not like ELECTRIC WIZARD enough for your tastes?

Or CANNIBAL CORPSE?

no she was a fan of Boris can you believe that???? I never let her live that down.

mmmm electric wizard

Heresy: Why does anyone listen to Nick Drake when Cat Stevens exists????

Abbott, do you like jazz, and if so, of what sort? It doesn't seem far fetched that you would given that you like prog and guitar shredders.

Abbott why don't more ladies post on this thread/ILM?

I love jazz! But I don't know all that much about it; I am kind of a dilettante (but it is probably hard not to be in jazz). Not too into vocal jazz, tho I like Nina Simone. Chuck Mingus is my faves, and The Lonliest Monk. I prefer Miles' '50s-'60s stuff to later stuff. Illinois Jacquet kind of cracks my shit up. Really the only one I have got into enough to know his whole discography is Chuck Mingus...fave album is 'Mingus x5' and fave song is "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat."

Oh and Billy Strayhorn! Maybe the best songwriter of all time?

Herman, I don't know. Rekkid shit is 95% a sausage party in most circumstances.

a sausage pizza more like

Oh man okay You all need to check out this album, Arboga Teenage Riot – Ugly Crew Demos. Gracenot decided it was by some band called Tomo (???) but I was lazy to change it. The track names are all just the length of the track – they don't have proper titles.

The album gets good when the girls start 'singing.'

http://www.splendidezine.com/reviews/may-9-05/arboga.gif

Dear Abbott -- who is your favorite singer/MC/whoever that writes/performs the worst lyrics?

Oh MAN they're all so great, yeah? When they're just stupidly stupid?

I'll think about this. Defs Human League...but there are many many more.

Ned, d/l that fucking album.

Bahaha I think Crispin Glover is ultimate awesome terrible songwriter. See, for example, his song Clowny Clown Clown:

I was walking on the ground.
I didn't make a sound,
then I turned around,
and I saw a clown.
Had a frown.
Stood on a mound.
Started barking like a hound.

huh her ha hur ur
Clowny clown clown.

When I came to what I found,
he showed me something that was brown,
so we became great friends and
late in life, he got sick...
I gave him some soup, but he got
worse and asked for its purse.
It got it, but it was empty,
so it cried a plenty.
I wondered what to do.
I didn't know what to think,
so I got a drink.

And then I showed it
something that was round,
and it died, smiled,
and fell on the ground.

Clowny clown clown

Thinking back about those days
with the clown,
I get teary-eyed and really snide.
I think that deep down,
I hated that clown,
but not as much as Mr. Farr,
I'm going to go smoke a cigar.

Clowny clown clown.

I was walking on the ground,
I didn't make a sound
and then I turned around --
I saw a clown.

Clown.
Clowny Clown Clown.

HAHA!
I hate you clown.
Your ugly frown.
Smiley lips.
Think I'll clip you across the nose, clown.
Haha.
Want a cigar?
It'll get you far
like Mr.Farr..get it?
Haha Mr.Farr?

Clown.
Clown.

(Coughs) See what a cigar'll do? HEHE!

Clown.
Ugly Clown.

Ned, d/l that fucking album.

All right!

yay.

Abbott, have you heard Mad Capsule Markets? I have no reason to ask you this, other than that they were the most random band I could think of.

no

I've never understood why there's so few female posters on ILM considering how many post on ILE.

i used to post on ILM a LOT more but i got bored by how male it all was. but if abbott posts i will post. :-)

I actually started off on ILM but people seem to find a chick who is into 70s prog and 80s new wave at the same time a bit weird or obvious or something, I donno.

Also, everyone thinks I'm into goth, and I keep telling everone I'm bloody not.

Well ok except for Bauhaus and the Cure.

what if you like 70s new wave and 80s prog?

Even better!

apparently bf's friend called me "a find" because i know who elliott sharp is. is it really that odd? what am i supposed to do, sit around watching the sisterhood of the traveling pants?

I have a theory that if all you have going for you is being a moderately attractive woman who likes the music that the music nerd dudes like you can get away with almost anything in a relationship (with a music nerd dude, anyway).

So if you are those things and not also a terrible person you are a "find"

(most of this is based on a girl several friends of mine all dated who was a terrible terrible girlfriend to all of them but liked the right music and was pretty)

if several friends dated her she probably didn't "get away with" much

She got away with bouncing back and forth between the several friends and cheating on each of them with others of them.

Usually with the official boyfriend at the time wanting her back very badly.

fwiw I did not understand what they saw in this girl but she did have record store experience and a sort of sub-audrey hepburn cute stylishness.

Dear Abbott, what do you think of Grace Jones?

dear ned,

i am not abbott, but i believe "slave to the rhythm" is one of the finest recordings ever made.

-gb

Dear GB, I v. much agree!

I wd just like to say that I wd never use the fact I like nerdy boy music and video games and guitars as a reason to treat lovely men like poop. Thats just mean.

Dear NED, I adore Grace Jones. Her music is fucking awesome and when she was all leaping around Chris Walken like a spider in some pre-makey-outey ordeal in "View to a Kill"...man, what the hell happened to her?

I got into Grace Jones bcz I <3 Trevor Horn and thought I should check her out for the Trevor factor. And my jaw dropped & I was zomgwtf how did I miss out on THIS for so long?

apparently bf's friend called me "a find" because i know who elliott sharp is. is it really that odd? what am i supposed to do, sit around watching the sisterhood of the traveling pants?

bahaha JBR otm. I have decribed this before, but mutual love of King Crimson and making out does not a good relationship make.

I should note, on the 'View to a Kill' front, that I've only seen the parts with Chris Walken. One of my best friends & former roomies is obsessed w/him, so she'd rent his movies but fast forward through all the parts he wasn't in. So that's the only Bond movie I've seen, and I haven't seen much of it. We also watched the opening bcz of that Duran Duran song and that song is BITCHING.

Does anyone else think View to a Kill suggests getting yr red wings?

A sacred why, a mystery gaping inside...
First time in years, to drench you skin with lovers rosy stain

Or do I just think every Duran Duran song is abt Colonel Angus?

I actually started off on ILM but people seem to find a chick who is into 70s prog and 80s new wave at the same time a bit weird or obvious or something, I donno.

I have long been accused of being both weird and obvious!

Abbott,

what are your thoughts regarding Kevin Rowland?

Abbott this is not a question (I will proffer one of those in due course) but I bought that Arboga Teenage Riot CD in like 2003 after reading about it on ILM. It is an awes thing to own but I've given it very little thought for some years until reading this thread

Abbott how will you cope without your thread while ILX is down?

Abbott wats good in the hood

Abbott, Grace Jones has a new album. Haven't heard it, though.

dell,

I think Kevin Rowland is pretty great! Tho it was weird when "Blender" named his as like "one of 100 most shockingtaculuar musicians" for wearing a skirt.

I enjoy the music of Laurie Anderson. "I dreamed I had to take a test...in a Dairy Queen..."

Abbott do you like the last Talk Talk album or is it indulgent wank?

Oh it's pleasant but, yes, a bit indulgent.

(NB: I have not heard it.)

That's so true.

Isn't it tho!

i can't decide if i prefer Scientist over King Tubby. then again, you can't forget Bunny Lee. variety is the spice of life i guess.

Daerest Abbott, Black Flag or Minor Threat?

BLACK FLAG, but stuff like FAMILY MAN and not stuff like WASTED.

http://blog.wfmu.org/photos/uncategorized/2008/04/10/black_flag_hair_3.jpg

But defs not enough to put a Black Flag sticker on anything ever. (I did once put one on a lawnmower tho and sold it to some stoned kid after I convinced him it was a car.)

I love that Black Flag thru the ages thing.
Abbott what are your favourite Husker Du albums in order?

You know I have only heard "New Day Rising." I checked it out from the public library when I was 14. It didn't stick with me much.

Okay I love Daryl Hall and Robert Fripp so why is Sacred Songs such a thing?

Why are there not more people like Nina Simone in the world?

Well I guess not even she's around anymore.

Best ab-lum that is new that I have heard: MARNIE STERN woot whoa.

Is Spastic Ink groovy or am I being tricked?

xp Because then the Nina Simones we already have would not be as special.

I don't know what music aids in drunken poker, but I can tell you that Chuck Mingus helps you win dominoes on mushrooms. Hee hee, little trains!

I think this may have been the best evening of my life.

Do you agree or disagree with the following statements? Please explain why:

1. "There's three of us, but we're not the Beatles."

2. "Life ain't nothing but bitches and money."

3. "Tyco nightglow velvet pose. Special effects. High-tech armors murk you after shows. Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious. Dociousaliexpifragilisticcalisuper."

What are other Nina Simones we have??? And I wld not mind having 40; spread the love.

Do you agree or disagree with the following statements? Please explain why:

1. "There's three of us, but we're not the Beatles."

Agreed: "Why am I here? I am here because you are here...and let me quote to you young officers this phrase: 'No two minds ever came together without, thereby, creating a third, invisible, intangible force which may be likened to a third mind.' Who is the third that walks beside you?'

2. "Life ain't nothing but bitches and money."

Disagreed: Life ain't nothing but bitches and money.

3. "Tyco nightglow velvet pose. Special effects. High-tech armors murk you after shows. Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious. Dociousaliexpifragilisticcalisuper."

I LIVED IT. AGREE

NB: Strayhorn

What are other Nina Simones we have???

Still trying to figu.....what?

Me too, dude!

new marnie stern is awesome. now i think i like it better than the first one.

(she is not a nina simone. but it's not like we have a lot of marnie sterns either.)

I change my mind. Having 40 Nina Simones would be awesome.

Imagine if they did a Mediæval Bæbes type thing?

It might not be so good. But...imagne!i

What about this?

That is some serious darkwave shit.

X D X D X D X D

if you start that the bug video when this chrome video is at 0:14 it sounds pretty cool

OTM!

Dearest Abbott, what is your favorite Bill Withers song?

What is your favourite funk album?

Abbott do you know this band/song?

Haerest pfunkboy,
wz wicked glad you introduced me to that song by Alice Donut! It kind of made my weekend.

Rev, I actually have not heard Bill Withers. :O

Favorite funk album IS: There's a Riot Going On. Also: Brick! So so love the Brick. Stoneheart & Good High are the best. (Good High has a fucking rad cover, too.) Srsly, everyone, go listen to Brick and you will be happy. They are a band that seems only tangentially familiar with sadness. They have this song "Don't Ever Lose Your Love," consoling a friend, and it's like they knew people felt sad sometimes and tried to make a song surrounding that foreign concept but it is still one sunshine party of a tune.

BEST album cover (maybe ever!) is their best of. BRICK, get it?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51a79SlozHL._SS500_.jpg

Will share samples of those tracks on cover:

Dazz! Dazz! Disco & jazz.

••••••

DOO doo doo DOO doo doo DOO doo doo DOO doo

DU-SIC!

••••••

Just let the music do it to you!
There's really, really nothing to it
oooh oooh oooh
oooh oooh oooh
OOOOOOH
OOOOOOOOOH
OOOH

Abbott,

What kind of music did your mom or dad listen to when you were growing up?

Abbott do you like Bloodstone?

My mom and dad mostly listened to soft hits radio stations. My dad did have a Def Leppard cassette but he never listened to it. They listened to a ton of Enya, and my dad had 'Yanni: Live at the Acropolis.' For this reason I have a v big soft spot for songs like Christopher Cross's "Sailing" and Phil Collins' "One More Night," which I thought were very beautiful.

My dad did used to own a lot of records, I guess, mostly like Led Zep & ELP but also surprisingly v into Nilsson! But not the song where he used the f-word. My mom sold all these at a garage sale when they first married. For this reason, I thought (until about age 17) that part of getting married was getting rid of all your music collection, like some kind of reverse dowry.

I have never listened to Bloodstone. Bloodrock, however, is a big disappointment compared to their album covers/song names, etc.

Oh man I am rocking "Sailing" right now and it never doesn't hit the spot.

Oh I think you need to hunt down some Bloodstone. The 1st album is OOP and I only had a comp cd with some tracks from it. But one day this thing called Napster came along and i found the 1st album. I really need to dig out that cdr actually.

I remember the day I discovered that thing. And had dial-up. And was still happy to get any song I wanted even if it took 40 minutes per song.

Queuing up overnight a load of albums and waking up in the morning and Napster had crashed. And there was way to save what you had queued or anything.

I think the first song I downloaded was "Queen of the Night."

What was your 1st album? I cant remember if mine was Neurotica or Strarsailor (tim buckley) I only got napster to get those albums i had been desperate to hear for years. I got pretty much all i wanted in a month of painfully slow dial-up. But by then I was hooked and ended up checking out losds of bands. inc white stripes and atdi before they got hyped. Goof times.

From Napster? It was Mingus Ah-Um, which was not at the public library.

hah before napster I ordered jazz cds through the library. Library let you order cds from any library in my county.

Yes I had not learned about the magic of Interlibrary Loan. I got to hear the Turtles box set thx to it.

abbott, explain to me why after listening to "ignition (remix)" for the 10th time today, i've not yet tired of it a bit. why is this song so perfect, and why have i not listened to it in like 2 years?

I believe you are now required to perform it at karaoke as hearing it is one thing but doing it in karaoke is like heaven.

so wise

Daerest Abbott, generally I prefer instrumental arrangements and cryptic conceptualism in the music I listen to that is new and not coming from old favorite standbys. Do you think that, for yourself, it is more important to connect with a singer or with the music?

This, guys:

This.

Dearest Ned,

I have a hard time making the two twin in certain contexts, BUT: the music.

twain
twain I mean
twain

Also I like this:

btw if anyone knows what that lemon tree song is I wld be glad to know

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Oops. Try again.

It seems as though my ex boyfriend wrote a song about me. :O

Thank you everything!

Also, what is the best version of RES by Cardiacs? Seaside/Little Man/Night Tracks/Maresnest/Garage Concert?

Oh my gosh this man is now a youth pastor.
It all makes so much sense.

Little Man is best

I've surprised myself by enjoying the Garage Concert version. No Sarah honking away of course but for sheer muscularity it can't be beat.

Abbott does this rock your world?

I was hoping your ex's song was gonna be all weepy and maudlin and containing all sorts of stuff that straight up didn't happen. :-(

It was fun though.

Abbott were you aware of this thread?
fart songs POX

Rev, I actually have not heard Bill Withers. :O

Yes you have! You just don't know it! There can't be any way you've possibly escaped hearing "Lean On Me", can there?

Alright...which of these three songs do you prefer?

daer abbott, have you thought about doing a daily post of youtube vids of songs you think people should hear?

RETURENDED to life @ request of the swell guy Bimble

Hells yes. Abbott, you rule. We need a woman up in this bitch to call the tune sometimes. You know about some pretty cool music, too. Thank you!

I remember you made a good point - that maybe the thread should have been Prince vs. Smiths instead of Prince vs. Morrissey. But I only say that because I'm wishing Moz would win and knowing he won't. I don't really want to go there, otherwise, really.

Abbott, can you please describe the longest musical "dry spell" in your life, however you interpret that?

It lasted at least a year, from late 2003 through sometime in early 2005.

Interestingly enough, one facet was a post here by Momus, discussing how nothing in the presentation of rock had changed in the past 40 years: the basic format of shows and other things hadn't changed. He compared much of modern music to "civil war reenactments."

The other was the house shows/record store I frequented at the time. The whole culture of music obsessives (of which I was basically a part) was such a fucking sausage party. Peeps who were excited about the same stuff as me were all men, and were either condescending about that ('oh you like the new Scott Walker; well isn't that precious") or treated like a piece of meat...like I entered a lot of boring relationships based on mutual love of Henry Cow or whatevs.* I just got sick of the dynamics of the whole scene.

The two things coalesced at a time when I was wrecked with anhedonia from depressiosity & circumstances. I went from disinterest to anger and almost disgust at music, especially modern music. I listened to the radio in the car, but it was NPR, and I overheard whatever my roomies were playing, but I actively avoided music for over a year during that time.

It was weird.

*NB I know all dudes of any stripe aren't dicks, don't get me wrong.

Wow.

Are you a fan of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtN1YnoL46Q

Abbott's last answer up there = some of the best writing on music this year, and beats the fuck out of most biographical type stuff.

wow thx Ned!

What do you think of Scottish Pirate Metal, Abbott?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta-Z_psXODw

LOL Scottish Pirate Metal

Daerest Abbott, who's your favorite Black Flag singer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ5VaBgXzuM

!!!!

I don't know if I'll ever be able to wrap my head around her voice.

THAT RULES

my favorite song of hers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW7hyws9i9E

This is really the only song I love on http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51W3XJ20WBL._SL160_SL90_.jpg (tho I love the album cover, it looks like they are jamming out in a level of Marble Madness.

Duck Song part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jjcAuEYW9M

Daer Abbott, are you familiar with this song? (or advert)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQIOHJxqAUc

Daer Abbott make sure to take a look at yesterday's posts on Rolling Metal Thread. There is exciting news baot our friends COMUS.

A remix is essentially a carbon-dating technique for a song, IMO, and that's about it. All remixes from one year sound miraculously similar.

Interesting note: Harry Chapin wrote a poem about his girlfriend shitting on his chest.

Seriously, all I can think of when I hear "Cat's in the Cradle" is some chick shitting on his chest.

the poem was called "Baptism."

COMUS is going on tour???????????? :O

Probably not to anywhere near me though.

BTW I read Comus & it doesn't really enhance appreciation of their music.

http://www.mtsu.edu/english/milton/blake-drawing-for-Web.jpg

Well, Nate asked for ilxor suggestions for good U.S. venues for them. Tell him about an awesome Comus-ready venue within striking distance of your domain! It ain't often you actually have access to the ppl making these decisions.

Hey pfunkboy, the song that dodo sings sound really familiar, but I can't place it. J0hn lolled pretty hard bcz he thought it was a duck at first.

It's this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgzRgLRuKt0

WHOA Sea of Tranquility

Dear Abbott,

I'm still a tad weirded out that your favorite album of all-time is Best of Brick. But still, due to your unending coolness, I must know: what are your ten (10!) favorite movie musicals of all-time?

xoxokjb

Hi Kevin,

Thank you for asking. They are mostly "B-musicals." Here they are, in no real order, and without much thought:

1. West Side Story
2. Grease 2
3. Little Shop of Horrors
4. Shock Treatment
5. Music Man
6. Jesus Christ Superstar
7. The Apple
8. Cabaret (have to listen to this every time IO cut up a pineapple)
9. Newsies
10. Best of Brick: The Musical

There's a deli in town with some weird movie posters...I forget the name of the particular film in question, but the tagline promises it's "the GAYEST musical this side of the border!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ4FnsDxtL8&feature=related

I have such a big crush on Jessica Harper.

OMG!! First of all, I almost spit out my coffee at the heavy lolz of Best of Brick: The Musical!!

Second, two of your all-time fave musicals are mine too, okay??? The Apple and, OMG!, Shock Treatment! Did I ever tell you I threw a BIM party/screening of The Apple and made everyone wear on their faces these iridescent stickers I bought at a toy store? As for the latter, it's a much better film qua film than Rocky Horror. I love every damn frame! I had the soundtrack for years before I actually got to see the thing. Blew my mind because I necessarily constructed another film in my head around the songs. Fave song: "Look What I Did to My Id."

I have an essay on both RHPS and Shock Treatment in this book right here (but ouch! no softcover??).

Fave Cabaret song: "Money" easily!!! (DESPISED the stage show when I saw it about ten years ago)
Fave Grease 2 song: "Reproduction" easily!!!
Fave Music Man song: The Shipoopi!!!! I loooooove how dude jumps up and down right before the song like "OMG! Let's soooooooooooo do The Shipoopi!!!!!"

What are your thoughts on Bye Bye Birdie? "Telephone Hour" is in the running for greatest movie musical number of all-time.

I saw the made-for-TV "Bye Bye Birdie" with Jason Alexander & I don't remember much about it (it's been 15 years!) except being extremely irritated by the title song...maybe I should give it another go.

Glad you love THE APPLE & of course SHOCK TREATMENT! I tend to find most Rocky Horror stans are appalled at the idea that it's better than Rocky Horror, so I am glad you are with me on that one.

My husband & I sing "Bitchin' in the Kitchen" together all the time.

Hey Kevin, is the musical of Hairspray worth watching? I love the3 Waters film but I am kind of apprehensive about the musical.

And back to giddy excitement abt Shock treatment: I totally feel you when you say you love every frame! It looks so good! I mean, even just the color scheme is really fresh and vivid – if you tried to condense each frame into some Mondrian-style blocks of color it would still look awesome.

RHPS will always be closest to my heart but for many, MANY extratextual reasons (even though I do love the film). In short, RHPS casts should be federally funded, they should.

I was NOT a fan of the recent Hairspray. The movie was decent enough but the music was godawful. All one has to do is listen to the cheap, quick soundtrack for Waters' Hairspray (which leaves out sooooo many great songs as it is) and then the soundtrack for this one and you'll hear why Broadway is still stuck in a pathetic, out-of-touch cocoon (although the results are rarely worthwhile when shows try to keep up with popular music).

I saw the made-for-TV "Bye Bye Birdie" with Jason Alexander & I don't remember much about it

badwrongfalsebirdie

trust me ms abbott the original w/ janet leigh and ann margaret and mr paul lynde is about 3-10 wtf explosions per scene, rent it tonight if you've already gone that far down this route

it's from this bizarre window of time when the counterculture had gained enough purchase that people had begun to poke self-conscious fun at 50's nuclear family cliches, but the real late 60's shift hadn't happened yet so it's still got this scary innocence to it all, it is critical viewing

Yeah it's a masterpiece. In the 1972 Conclusion to his Signs and Meaning in the Cinema, Peter Wollen admits he was wrong in what he expected of Godard and finds that Makavejev's WR - Mysteries of The Organism (1971) and, even more so, Kenneth Anger's Scorpio Rising (1964) should receive the credit for "exploit(ing) the full semiological possibilities of film" instead of Godard (157). But actually, that credit should really go to Bye Bye Birdie from 1963 which is positively bursting with semiological hubris. It feels as if George Sidney had the opportunity to make only one film in his life and just went nutso trying to fulfill film's potential. (Which, obviously, was not the case since he's the auteur behind some of MGM's most scintillating musicals ever.)

1963 and 1964...hmmm...what a rich and strange interzone. Throw in "Surfin' Bird" and you wonder why The Beatles/the counterculture "had" to happen.

Jessica Harper is tres hottt.

"Summer Breeze" is killing me right now! There are only two dudes, here, in Seals & Croft – sirs how do you get your voices to carry those 398 extra invisible notes on "miiiiind"? You can just say any banality about "I came home" without poetic embellishment if you weave them around this amazing vessel. Thanks for blowing through the jasmine of my mind!

Daer Abbott, has viceroy driven you daft yet with his listening to every album on the metal poll?

PS, have you caught him listening to that Pungent Stench album yet?

He has been listening to them on headphones.

do you approve?

Abbbottt what are your favorite and least favorite Beach Boys albums

I'm gonna just do this off the top of my head: fave – Wild Honey (hard choice!), least fave – 15 Big Ones (super easy choice).

tell me about it hard choice, I could alternate between 5 or 6 different ones!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7J99LtTjds

fuck yes @ this

I told myself I was going to be more musically adventurous but all I wanna do is rock EWF.

let this groove get to your shoes, it's alright.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PD0tk-zCHM

DAEREST ABOT:
fuck yes @ this too?

omg it has the "place in france where the naked ladies dance" noodled in there
what a fucking jam

DAEREST ABOT:
how do you feel about the new Ke$ha song that bases it's chorus on the "place in france" melody?

WHaaaat? Man, I admit, I don't rly follow chart pop all that thoroughly. Like the first time I heard "Calif. Gurls" by that xtian chick was yesterday. So, idk, but I am thinking I might need to hear this Ke$ha jam IF it mentions men go there just to see their underwear.

stevie, thank u 4 spreading the roger troutman gospel

Sorry to be a broken record, but have you ever tried any Shiina Ringo? I think you might enjoy her, based on some of the other things you like (but then again, I've already steered people wrong thanks to thinking that about other people, notably poor Surmounter).

This is kind of going for the jugular, since I am posting a link to what I think of as the ultimate track on her ultimate album:

Souretsu

Or you could go back to her first album:

Kabukichou No Jou

Or maybe you've already tried her, or don't like listening to songs in foreign languages, etc.

(OT: I just had a chicharron burrito from Cecilia's. Good, but I think I prefer the chicharron breakfast burrito.)

Oh shit chicharron burritos – I should round one of those up.
Shiina Ringo is one of the fave artists of one of my friends who has p similar tastes in music to me, so I have been meaning to check her out for a while now. That is some cosmic shit, "Sourestsu." What album is it off of?
For some reason I imagined her sounding like Teena Marie? That was totally wrong.

I've been here two and a half years now, but I only recently tried chicharron, and I am sold on it.

Souretsu is from Karuki Zamen Kuri no Hana (phew). She's doing more conventional things these days with her band Tokyo Jihen, but they are still fairly unique overall. Recent live performance:

OSCA and FOUL

(Their bass player has some sort of problem here and disappears for a while but it all works out.)

I also imagined she was like 60 and had been making records since the 1970s...how did this imaginary narrative for her even happen?

I don't know. She does kind of do R&Bish stuff sometimes, but other than that I'm not sure. She's been very productive since she started in the late 90s.

I used to see the name and think it was some kind of Japanese noise type thing.

hey abbott do you have anything to say baout this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oag1XDszddk&feature=player_embedded

Sometimes I think Dolly Parton is the world's best human. wkiw for sure. Is that guy on the right Chet or a TV host? I like that he's chipping in.

btw flopson what was yr old username?

that's the tv host, ralph emmery. chet atkins is the hot guitar licks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oag1XDszddk&feature=player_embedded
http://www.topnews.in/files/Jim-Carrey_0.jpg
http://www.idealcheese.com/images/brie_de_meaux_lg.jpg
http://www.healthtotalbody.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/eel.jpg

http://zedomax.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/curry-samosa.jpg
http://www.topnews.in/files/Jim-Carrey_0.jpg
http://www.idealcheese.com/images/brie_de_meaux_lg.jpg
http://www.healthtotalbody.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/eel.jpg

Are you trying to make these represent shapes of letters? Your name was ARCS? AROS?

haha no sorry that was an attempt at a riddle in the style of this thread Game: Guess the Name of the Artist Based on a String of Pictures, &c.

my previous login rhymed with "a roast of ribbed veal"

"aroma: glib seal"