Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion (2009)

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1. In the Flowers
2. My Girls
3. Also Frightened
4. Summertime Clothes
5. Daily Routine
6. Bluish
7. Guys Eyes
8. Taste
9. Lion in a Coma
10. No More Runnin
11. Brother Sport

Bee OK, Friday, 10 October 2008 01:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Will they continue to suck or will they go back to being devastating?

I know, right?, Friday, 10 October 2008 01:51 (fifteen years ago) link

they will continue being devastating. there is actually-nothing-wrong with strawberry jam.

so excited about this anyway. daily routine's like my favourite ac song, from boppin' to it at shows and all the archive.org tapes.

schlump, Friday, 10 October 2008 02:16 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll have absolutely none of this anti-Feels (which I think is actually one of my all time favourite albums) and strawberry jammery that is so popular around here!

Cars That Go Boom (mehlt), Friday, 10 October 2008 02:21 (fifteen years ago) link

If this isn't effectively their Collectidelica it will be a massive missed opportunity.

Tim F, Friday, 10 October 2008 03:13 (fifteen years ago) link

is this live? merriweather post pavilion is an outdoor venue in maryland

eman, Friday, 10 October 2008 04:54 (fifteen years ago) link

no, new studio album

mizzell, Friday, 10 October 2008 05:27 (fifteen years ago) link

where does it say studio album

eman, Friday, 10 October 2008 05:45 (fifteen years ago) link

oh domino usa site says it

eman, Friday, 10 October 2008 05:48 (fifteen years ago) link

People are anti-Feels around here? I could see the Strawberry Jam hate since it was their big album, but I think Feels is not only their good middle point but when they really started to hit their stride. I really can't see much noize-luv around here either.

skygreenleopard, Friday, 10 October 2008 06:32 (fifteen years ago) link

That post sums up the opposite my feeling on the topic: Hollindagain>Here Comes The Indian> Sung Tongs>Prospect Hummer> Campfire Songs>Spirit>Feels>Danse>Jam. But everything down to campfire songs is on this amazing plateau of possible greatest band of last ten years, its just, well, they've peaked. I dislike their recent stuff as much as I dislike their early stuff, ie, I don't hate it but its just a bit, well, at least in the case of the early stuff it felt like there was so much promise, in the new stuff I just feel like they've peaked or something.

I know, right?, Friday, 10 October 2008 08:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry I'm really not trying to be all shitty about this because I know y'alls just wanna get excited about the new one, I really did used to love this band and I get it, they're just not my band anymore, they just changed I suppose, at least they didn't start making a shitty formulaic version of the really great stuff. (great to my ears, you're clearly free to disagree)

I know, right?, Friday, 10 October 2008 08:13 (fifteen years ago) link

xp
I like most of their stuff really. I was probably more into Feels when that came out than Strawberry Jam, but today it's possible I consider the latter the better album sure. I definitely feel it's still worth looking forward to new AC material.

sonderangerbot, Friday, 10 October 2008 08:13 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm definitely open to being blown away by this one, I really would love to be.

I know, right?, Friday, 10 October 2008 08:14 (fifteen years ago) link

i thought this thread was about Animal Collective playing the Merriweather Post Pavilion in 2009 and my head almost exploded.

Just one of those dudes is from Maryland right? Were they ever a MD band?

circa1916, Friday, 10 October 2008 08:23 (fifteen years ago) link

n/m thanx wiki.

circa1916, Friday, 10 October 2008 08:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Jesus, even their fucking font choices are obnoxiously headache-inducing.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 10 October 2008 08:37 (fifteen years ago) link

all the dudes are from Maryland. but they get considered a NYC band.

beta blog, Friday, 10 October 2008 16:17 (fifteen years ago) link

it's a studio album and it's amazing. if you witnessed those last round of shows, it's that sound, finally captured. along the trajectories of Person Pitch and the Pantha du Prince remix, but on a whole other level.
my initial reaction (only heard it once) is that it's their Loveless/ Screamadelica, a massive leap forward in sound 'n' frequencies, a total summation of their powers, craft, and influences, their most cohesive "album" and a trip unto itself.

beta blog, Friday, 10 October 2008 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Fuuuuuuck I hope beta blog is OTM.

I love the font, fwiw.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 10 October 2008 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.myanimalhome.net/index2.html

Bee OK, Friday, 10 October 2008 16:37 (fifteen years ago) link

their most cohesive "album"

this is encouraging. seeing them gradually conglomerate songs into sets over the past couple of tours has been really satisfying. i like feels a lot, but i don't think it really flows (where as i think strawberry jam does, by having distinct phases and moods).

the screamadelica comparison seems apt in light of how danceable some of it seemed at shows. brothersport, &c. is the first song the kind of super-hippie-ish psych one?

schlump, Friday, 10 October 2008 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Strawberry Jam is their only release that I dislike. I was a bit disappointed in Feels at first, but only in comparison to Sung Tongs, which still stands as one of my favorite albums of the decade.

Were all four involved in the recording? *crossing fingers for avey tare and panda bear only*

z "R" s (Z S), Friday, 10 October 2008 16:51 (fifteen years ago) link

i didn't think any album title/cover combo could ever turn me off more than the last one. this is truly the most obnoxiously stupid album title ive ever seen. they're just completely fucking with everybody

haven't you all heard? (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Friday, 10 October 2008 17:11 (fifteen years ago) link

and not in a good way

haven't you all heard? (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Friday, 10 October 2008 17:11 (fifteen years ago) link

also when did they become a jam band

haven't you all heard? (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Friday, 10 October 2008 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link

avey, panda and geo played on the album (no deakin)

mizzell, Friday, 10 October 2008 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link

(where) is you deakin?

schlump, Friday, 10 October 2008 17:55 (fifteen years ago) link

"(They]) said they have many fond memories of the place and wanted to name an album after it," says Seth Hurwitz, the concert promoter whose company, I.M.P., books Merriweather. Hurwitz reports (via late-night email) that he was asked "about a month ago" if the band could use the venue's name for its next album. "I said, 'Cool.'"

mizzell, Friday, 10 October 2008 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link

they were probably just fucking with that guy, though.

mizzell, Friday, 10 October 2008 17:58 (fifteen years ago) link

"i didn't think any album title/cover combo could ever turn me off more than the last one."

what's the big deal, it was just a smushed strawberry?

Andrew Sandwich, Friday, 10 October 2008 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link

http://spex.de/weblog/archives/5431-Achtung%3A-einige-Neuigkeiten-zu-Animal-Collective.html

here is a babelfish translation:

Attention ¹: Tomorrow evening Animal Collective play a concert in the citizen of Berlin club Berghain - we referred already to it, present the show, everyone may thus as informed regard itself. Attention ²: On 12 January 2009 the new, ninth Animal Collective album appears” Merriweather post office Pavilion “with domino record. That is in the box, it at the beginning of this yearly to the Sweet Tea Recording studio to Oxford, Mississippi with clay/tone engineer Ben everything was already taken up.

Attention ³: The new, ninth Animal Collective album” Merriweather post office Pavilion “is excellently, still - with leaves - more poppiger than so far from that the volume belonged to material and consists of eleven pieces. The title refers to the club of the same name in Baltimore. The second song -” My Girls “- sounds with its jagged-electronically mäandernden underbody almost like a production of Carl Craig, the dreamed and entschleunigte” NO More Runnin “however calls memories to relaxed days at remote bath lakes awake. Brutally well also the machine-rhythm-beaconed and by numerous synthetic sounds disturbed” buzzer time Clothes “, which might be good for interesting, dance-surface-suited Remixes, as well as first the gently there-bubbling are, later however massive with (child) choir singing, Waber Electronica and Bossa rhythm strengthened” Bluish “.

mizzell, Friday, 10 October 2008 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, its a total dance-surface filler!

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 10 October 2008 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link

STRAWBERRY JAM FUCKIN ROOLS SCHOOLZ UR ALL NUTS OR SOMETHING

rent, Friday, 10 October 2008 21:23 (fifteen years ago) link

"The title refers to the club of the same name in Baltimore"

INVISIBLE CLUB
http://dcpages.com/Tourism/Maps/pix/Merriweather_Post_Pavilion.jpg

also its in columbia not baltimore

eman, Friday, 10 October 2008 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Why so much 'FEELS' hate? Tis my favorite album.

Moka, Friday, 10 October 2008 22:35 (fifteen years ago) link

At least the cover is somewhat interesting... unlike some other recent endeavours of lazy *cough* TVOTR/Bloc Party *cough*

I thought Strawberry Jam was solid, and the EP they put out this year sounded decent. Can't wait for this!

And for the record, 'Feels' is perfect, IMHO.

drainCosmetics, Friday, 10 October 2008 22:36 (fifteen years ago) link

also when did they become a jam band

wait really

you dont think they were ever jam band-y before this

t_g, Friday, 10 October 2008 23:36 (fifteen years ago) link

"it's a studio album and it's amazing. if you witnessed those last round of shows, it's that sound, finally captured. along the trajectories of Person Pitch and the Pantha du Prince remix, but on a whole other level.
my initial reaction (only heard it once) is that it's their Loveless/ Screamadelica, a massive leap forward in sound 'n' frequencies, a total summation of their powers, craft, and influences, their most cohesive "album" and a trip unto itself."

OMG OMG OMG this is exactly what I want.

Tim F, Saturday, 11 October 2008 01:34 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, tim, i wasn't totally sure what you meant before, but wanted to say that they recorded this with ben allen because of experience with hip hop artists and they wanted someone to accentuate the rhythm and bass of the new songs.

mizzell, Saturday, 11 October 2008 01:51 (fifteen years ago) link

i want an album full of "water curses"-style waterside dance blissouts!

aaron d.g., Saturday, 11 October 2008 01:53 (fifteen years ago) link

The live show I saw in Berlin in October last year was totally a dance blissout, especially the encore which literally reminded me of "Higher Than The Sun" - a soundtrack for three wise men to travel across intergalactic rave lasers to offer exotic gifts to the starchild in 2001: A Space Odyssey.

Closer to home, I guess the second half of "Derek" would be a good reference point too, but the live sound felt a lot fuller.

Tim F, Saturday, 11 October 2008 12:16 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm just coming back from their Berghain show. Liked it a lot. It was very electronic at times, especially towards the end, almost ravey, in a way it reminded me of Underworld. But it was very apart from that it sounded very much like MBV to me. MBV without guitars. But as spacey.

Tobias Rapp, Sunday, 12 October 2008 00:14 (fifteen years ago) link

"But apart from that it sounded very much like MBV to me."

Tobias Rapp, Sunday, 12 October 2008 00:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Have there been any key live recordings in 2008? I've totally lost track.

toby, Sunday, 12 October 2008 01:22 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14564305
this show form 2007 has most of the new songs on it.

mizzell, Sunday, 12 October 2008 02:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I have that on my computer already. Never listened to it though. Will remedy.

toby, Sunday, 12 October 2008 02:24 (fifteen years ago) link

That live set has real moments of greatness.

The band that AC's development kind of reminds me of is A.R. Kane - with AC's earlier work corresponding to 69 and Strawberry Jam (and hopefully even more so the new album) corresponding to i.

There's that same sense that what starts out as a fascination for pretty-noise being... not abandoned... but recontextualised within a frame of stronger pop songs and hypnotic (v. v. loosely "dance") rhythms, in a way that makes what remains of the original aesthetic actually more precious (in both cases I'm confused by the tendency of people to prefer each band's earlier work).

Water Curses actually reminded me of tracks like "Conundrum", "And I Say" and "HoneySuckleSwallow".

Tim F, Monday, 13 October 2008 04:52 (fifteen years ago) link

i am very psyched to hear this based on the comments so far. animal collective is one of those bands that i have seen live (for sung tongs i think - it was amazing and wonderfully perplexing to the crowd) and have a few recordings by, but i never took the full plunge.

tricky, Monday, 13 October 2008 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link

in both cases I'm confused by the tendency of people to prefer each band's earlier work

know nothing about AR Kane, but preferring AC's earlier stuff because it wasn't just pretty, or rhythmic, or noisy, or any one particular thing except on the verge of bursting into flames. it was disturbing + pretty, or sweet + noisy + scary, or combustible + hypnotic. I'm not as interested in seeing how artists even out over time, smoothing over rough edges to form something that's supposed to be "mature" or a synthesis of what they were driving at before. This happens to most people, artists or not. AC's stuff on Here Comes the Indian, say, was more interesting to me, sonically and certainly emotionally -- maybe because it wasn't "fully formed". That music leaves a lot more to chance, and imo is open to a lot more interpretation. given that it often still comes out weirdly, surreally pretty is kind of an amazing bonus.

Dominique, Monday, 13 October 2008 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow, you actually just put into words exactly what I wanted to say.

I know, right?, Monday, 13 October 2008 22:48 (fifteen years ago) link

that is a great post dominique.

tricky, Monday, 13 October 2008 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes, good post Dominique! I do disagree with it though.

"I'm not as interested in seeing how artists even out over time, smoothing over rough edges to form something that's supposed to be "mature" or a synthesis of what they were driving at before."

Dominique you say "I'm not as interested..." which implies you acknowledge this is a personal bias you bring to the table.

If we can agree that maturity or synthesis isn't a universal a priori good, we can probably also agree that the reverse holds true as well - that is, a band's incendiary early work isn't by definition its best. I don't think we can dismiss the possibility that sometimes a maturisation or "smoothing out" of a band's aesthetic can be a positive or productive process. At any rate for the most part I think such terms are applied too quickly and airily, and they ignore what I might call the complex topography of maturity. At this point many developmental arcs come to mind. Can going from Tago Mago to Future Days, Joni Mitchell from Blue to Hejira, Steely Dan from Countdown To Ecstasy to Aja. In each case what seems from one perspective to be a regrettable "smoothing out", "synthesis" of earlier ideas and general "maturation" of sound could equally be characterised as a transformation of the aesthetic landscape into something equally as spiky, as challenging, as difficult, as restless as the previous work.

More generally I think that notions of "maturity" in music are always rather controversial, and whenever people take a strong stand on this issue (for or against) it's usually at least partly a statement about themselves and how they relate to music. In response to this I feel it's important to establish a critical distance from such too-quick partiality. In the above examples I prefer the second album in each duo I listed, and while I might say "maturity" has something to do with it in each case, I could easily list several counter-examples pointing in the other direction. "Maturity" itself is not a property or essence but an articulation; it's the quality of the articulation that is important rather than the presence/absence of the property that is articulated.

In spite of my long screed, I would take issue with any attempt to equate synthesis with maturity, either in general or in the particular case of Animal Collective, though I'm not going to assume you're necessarily arguing that point.

In fact I probably have a corresponding (though opposing) bias in favour of a notion of synthesis that cannot be reduced to maturity or "smoothing out".

I love Here Comes The Indian but prefer Strawberry Jam because I discern in it the same sonic impulses working through and emerging out of a more defined song structure. This doesn't result in an inevitable taming or "smoothing out" of those impulses; if anything I'd argue that the sonic template (and its concomitant sense of possibility, unpredictability and ingenuity) is wildly expanded here; it's as if forcing their imagination through the narrow funnel of "the song" created an irrepressible and explosive friction, the tension between form (song) and content (sound) creating a fizziness and trembliness that is relatively absent in the earlier album because all those interesting sonic ideas have very little to bounce themselves off against. I feel like less is at stake when the songs wander off into noise on Here Comes The Indian because from the outset it presents itself as an excursion into noise (and surely the notion of noise being weirdly pretty is at this point a founding myth (though not an untrue one) of a certain brand of indie-rock and its familiars). In less generous moments Here Comes The Indian strikes me as almost secure in its attempt to play to a particular audience. Whereas Strawberry Jam seems to want to introduce different audiences to one another and watch to find out whether they make friends, war or babies - this isn't about seizing middleground consensus so much as engaging with the risk of confrontation.

Up to and including Feels I think your description of the band's narrative arc makes more sense, as everything up to that point involved a progressive structuration of the band's sound without a corresponding expansion of that sound. Strawberry Jam is the point where I think this story breaks down. This sudden flip (intensified song structure somehow leading into massively broadened sonic horizon) reminds me (as so much stuff does) of the beam of light refracted through the shard to produce a rainbow on the cover of Dark Side of the Moon, and I like the idea of bands subjecting themselves to a radical restriction of scope in order to bore through their own aesthetic into a new soundworld.

Tim F, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 04:26 (fifteen years ago) link

tim is otm about strawberry jam! i love much of their previous output, but strawberry jam really does feel like the birth of a new animal collective to me, one that's continued through water curses as well (though "seal eyeing" is very feels-y)

aaron d.g., Tuesday, 14 October 2008 05:29 (fifteen years ago) link

I completely disagree with Tim

I know, right?, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 07:02 (fifteen years ago) link

TS: Tim or Dominique?

I know, right?, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 07:02 (fifteen years ago) link

i think it's correct to say that a synthesis of smoothing out is not necessarily directly opposed to a honed complexity. the latter seems to be a more articulate way of stating the former. smoothing out doesn't always equate to less radical. maybe it's just more cerebral (another loaded word).

tricky, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe it's more cerebral intuitive.

tricky, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 17:42 (fifteen years ago) link

great posts by both Tim and Dominique, it saddens me that I can't agree with both.

I dunno that I really hear any kind of striving for "progression" or refinement or the synthesis yr speaking of in any of their albums. Which is part of why everything they do still excites me like few others can. Even Strawberry Jam and Feels, both pretty tight and closed machines of albums (more so SJ) that don't really have any of the kind of uneasy joy found in the loose threads of Here Comes the Indian, say, still sound to me like the products of a band whose primary drive (or one of them) is to not get at all comfortable, always put themselves out there in basically unknown territory. Everything they've done has managed to thrill me in a completely different way than what came before.

My only hope for this album is that I haven't familiarised myself with the new songs too much and maybe lose some of the impact. The last three albums I had heard the songs before but avoided listening to them too much, and that worked out pretty well.

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I still think Strawberry Jam sounds like Arcade Fire.

I know, right?, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 00:48 (fifteen years ago) link

have you listened to either?

anyway tim and dominique's posts - classics or duds?

Kevin Keller, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 00:57 (fifteen years ago) link

i, as usual, am very excited to hear this.

i've seen them three times since strawberry jam and i recognize a few of the titles from the live show. 'No More Runnin' and 'Daily Routine' should be highlights.

what a great band.

poortheatre, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 01:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Da, enlightening posts by Tim and Dom both, and at various times I have gone back and forth between their positions. My question would be, how long did that Here Comes the Indian moment last? I certainly wouldn't put the first two records in with HCTI, not even close-- they touch on some of those elements, but with far less success IMO.

Mark Rich@rdson, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 01:32 (fifteen years ago) link

i've always felt the same way, mark (if I read your comment the right way). The first couple or so I think served (at least for me) as just a way for them to figure out what worked and what didnt. Sometimes the result was forgettable, other times it was beautiful. it wasnt until they became fully formed as a band (around HCTI that those sounds and ideas morphed into fully realized concepts, and most of us can agree the rest is history.

Kevin Keller, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 02:01 (fifteen years ago) link

closing parenthesis after HCTI

Kevin Keller, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 02:02 (fifteen years ago) link

the first three tracks on Hollindagin are even better, i think, at presenting the early rawness and loose threads balanced with the power of a fully formed band.

mizzell, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 02:15 (fifteen years ago) link

better than HCTI, I mean.

mizzell, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 02:15 (fifteen years ago) link

People are anti-Feels around here? I could see the Strawberry Jam hate since it was their big album, but I think Feels is not only their good middle point but when they really started to hit their stride. I really can't see much noize-luv around here either.

― skygreenleopard, Thursday, October 9, 2008 11:32 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark

I was just reading through everything after my comment 5 days ago and realized I meant Sung Tongs, not Feels, as their turning point. Which isn't saying much or bringing anything new to the table, other than that I think it's my favorite AC album. I do, though, need to go back and revisit some old AC, Here Comes the Indians really is pretty good. A lot of what people are saying around here, especially Tim and Merdeyeax, make me want to go back and plays some of these albums again. And I do hope that new album has some good stuff on it. The tracklisting doesn't have that "walk around with you" song they played at their show last year - it was really good with the big show bass they had.

skygreenleopard, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 05:35 (fifteen years ago) link

*Indian

skygreenleopard, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 05:35 (fifteen years ago) link

this is way too much information but if you are interested in the MIX:

http://mixonline.com/recording/mixing/mixing_outside_lines/index3.html

will pull out the Animal Collective part:

While Allen’s discography is decidedly urban—having coming up engineering late-'90s New York City hip-hop and later helping to cultivate the Dirty South crunk movement—his work has attracted more rock bands lately, and most recently the uber-experimental Brooklyn art-rock band Animal Collective. “They hired me to record and mix because they wanted really aggressive low end on their new album,” he shares. “My background being in urban music, managing low end is one of the things I do really well.”

Just prior to hitting Chase Park Transduction Studios to mix the Animal Collective record, Allen describes the highly creative recording and pre-mixing process. “To get the low end they wanted, we set up four different reamping stations in the studio—using a Fender spring reverb, an Ampeg Portaflex bass amp, a little Gibson guitar amp and the huge QSC P.A. system they use for their live shows,” describes Allen. “They’d record things straight out of their samplers through the Neve 80 Series desk into Pro Tools, and then we’d reamp the kick drum or the snare drum or 20 snare drums or bass synth parts through one of those stations, pick the sound we liked best and record that back into the computer.”

Putting up room mics and reamping these low-end elements gives the band the “live” sound they’re after, as Allen explains. “We’re using that setup to create ambience that didn’t exist in the samples themselves, which makes them sound like a band playing in a room.”

Pre-mixing in-the-box throughout the recording process encouraged productive decision-making. “As each part gets recorded, and often triple- or quadruple-tracked, I take all those mics and run them through an aux input in Pro Tools and effect it at that stage, and get a balance,” he explains. “So once I open up the Pro Tools sessions, the rough mixes are all balanced, and in mixing it becomes a question of what will be up front and what will go behind? Also, we’ve left it open enough so that we can make decisions on how much room—or dirt—we want on the sound, or how closed and tight we want it to feel.”

Going into the mix, Allen shares, “The whole vibe is to have this really tight and punchy low end, like a New York hip-hop record, and then this really washy Beach Boys–style vocal approach. We went and bought a bunch of spring reverbs and cheap reverbs on eBay that we’re going to use for vocals, a lot of which are triple- or quadruple-tracked.”

Allen will use his 32 channels of outputs to submix on the Sony MXP-3036 console at Chase Park, and plans to experiment extensively with both outboard and plug-in processing while mixing with Animal Collective. “They’ve booked two weeks to mix 12 songs and they want to experiment as much as possible,” Allen adds. In addition to effects pedals and plate reverbs, Allen talks up some highly creative plug-ins, noting that he plans to use Audio Ease’s Speakerphone plug-in on Animal Collective tracks. “Instead of just EQ'ing a big mid-boost and cutting the low and high end to get a radio effect, with Speakerphone you have 30 to 40 models of all these different devices—walkie-talkies, P.A. systems and megaphones—and all these different environments,” he describes. “It’s infinitely tweakable, an awesome plug-in.”

Bee OK, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 05:36 (fifteen years ago) link

didn't like Strawberry Jam but am liking the production talk

original dixieland jaas band (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 15 October 2008 05:55 (fifteen years ago) link

I like the emphasis on low-end - their show last year had the rumble of a rap concert. Maybe it was just the sound in the Fillmore but it was eerily intense. Combined with the repetiveness of the Strawberry Jam songs and the jammy nature of the songs, it was kind of an endless bass stomp (in a good way). I'm excited to hear the new one.

They’ve booked two weeks to mix 12 songs and they want to experiment as much as possible.

you think?

skygreenleopard, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 06:27 (fifteen years ago) link

When I saw them in dublin the low-end was unbearable, it was great! But there was so many people talking really loudly around me (the very front) about having a gang gang dance t-shirt and "being into good music", then they complained that this concert was crap because the sound guy hadn't a clue!

I know, right?, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 08:53 (fifteen years ago) link

"walk around with you" song = Summertime Clothes

mizzell, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 13:25 (fifteen years ago) link

The videos from the midi fest are pretty good too.

mizzell, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 20:22 (fifteen years ago) link

http://myanimalhome.net/images/invite.jpg

am probably gonna go to this, having never been to a listening party before. i wonder whether it will be cheese and wine or hushing and reverence.

that clip above's so amazing.

schlump, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 13:19 (fifteen years ago) link

guess I'm the only one who'd like MPP to sound less like Person Pitch

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Avey is so hot in that

I know, right?, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link

i remember the first time i saw them being really alarmed that he could actually do that larynx-scream on-cue, not just in the frazzled after-eight-hours-of-singing-twist-and-shout way.

schlump, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 14:11 (fifteen years ago) link

eman, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link

http://myanimalhome.net/images/merriweatherCVR.jpg

mizzell, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link

guess I'm the only one who'd like MPP to sound less like Person Pitch

― sonderangerbot, Thursday, October 23, 2008 12:10 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

ur not btw

wilter, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 21:33 (fifteen years ago) link

i thought the panda songs on strawberry jam that sounded like more refined versions of person pitch songs were great but i wouldn't want all of mpp to sound like that necessarily

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link

is that the cover? it's moving.

Bee OK, Thursday, 23 October 2008 00:09 (fifteen years ago) link

i will be mega disappointed if this ends up sounding like person pitch

also that cover is neat and all but i was hoping it would look like the pic in the original post which is gorgeous and actually made me really excited about the music!

aaron d.g., Thursday, 23 October 2008 00:13 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i agree

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 October 2008 00:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Really? I was desperately hoping that wouldn't be the cover, it's got a kind of wannabe Dave McKean/earnest Tori Amos "goth"-lite ickiness to it. To me, anyway.

Telephone thing, Thursday, 23 October 2008 00:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm expecting something closer to the Panda tracks on Strawberry Jam perhaps crossed with "Safer".

Tim F, Thursday, 23 October 2008 01:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Did I miss something? Is Panda Bear taking the driver's seat this time around?

Personally I'm hoping it takes off from Strawberry Jam. I liked the direction they were going.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Thursday, 23 October 2008 01:38 (fifteen years ago) link

the last 2 clips posted totally rule.

wilter, Thursday, 23 October 2008 01:39 (fifteen years ago) link

"Did I miss something? Is Panda Bear taking the driver's seat this time around?"

Not necessarily, but the tenor of a lot of the live sets has been rather similar to, say, "No #1", for long stretches. Less aggressive and herky-jerky than most of the Avey stuff on Strawberry Jam.

Tim F, Thursday, 23 October 2008 01:42 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't see how anyone could possibly choose the pic in the original post over the fabulous moving one.

Roasted Ghost (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Thursday, 23 October 2008 01:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Akiyoshi Kitaoka

zappi, Thursday, 23 October 2008 02:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Not necessarily, but the tenor of a lot of the live sets has been rather similar to, say, "No #1", for long stretches. Less aggressive and herky-jerky than most of the Avey stuff on Strawberry Jam.

Ah, I see. I've been skipping all the live youtubes and mp3s; waiting for the album itself. I like #1, though it took time to grow on me. If they made a whole album that sounded like Person Pitch or the second half of Feels, it wouldn't be the end of the world... but it'd be less interesting to me. I've yet to hear AC do that kind of song many times in a row and keep it interesting from beginning to end. I feel like there's nothing to Person Pitch as a whole that the long version of "Bros" doesn't execute all by itself. And "Banshee Beat" aside, I think most the second half of Feels is self-indulgent.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Thursday, 23 October 2008 02:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I was just listening to that song Suspended in Gaffa by Kate Bush and the background vocal stuff she does in it sounds so much like Animal Collective it's insane.

Listen again here:

filthy dylan, Thursday, 23 October 2008 02:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Wait, is the stoner leaf illusion the actual cover? Crossing fingers, for real.

z "R" s (Z S), Thursday, 23 October 2008 02:57 (fifteen years ago) link

eman, Thursday, 23 October 2008 03:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't see how anyone could possibly choose the pic in the original post over the fabulous moving one.

because of colours : D

aaron d.g., Thursday, 23 October 2008 05:34 (fifteen years ago) link

The blogotheque clips have been floating around forever and I think they predate Strawberry Jam, or its release at least. One of them is Another White Singer from Manatee Danse.

I know, right?, Thursday, 23 October 2008 08:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Someone posted Kate Bush on this thread! Oh my god, you've made my night. Thanks.

Roasted Ghost (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Thursday, 23 October 2008 08:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Wait, is the stoner leaf illusion the actual cover? Crossing fingers, for real.

― z "R" s (Z S), Thursday, October 23, 2008 3:57 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

Yes, if the local Seattle "alternative" weekly paper is to be believed, (and I saw it before this thread was revived) the moving leaf thing is the real sleeve.

Roasted Ghost (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Thursday, 23 October 2008 08:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry to be too "dudeish",but I think,potentially,that this album might RULE.

NewBeefLover, Thursday, 23 October 2008 22:42 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean...I hope it rules.I think that it could.

NewBeefLover, Thursday, 23 October 2008 22:42 (fifteen years ago) link

holy living shit @ "Brother Sport" live on NPR

if the whole album is this awesome i may be able to just drop everything else and listen to AC all day and all night

Beatrix Kiddo, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link

i went and heard this tonight, at the listening partly they sweetly and freely arranged. it's a great record: i can't wait to get to know it, hear it on headphones etc. it's got the continuity and otherness of records like loveless, and such a different, full, bold sound - really new-amerykah-beat-driven, and really electrically synthesised and busy. it seems like a lot of the kind of manic eccentricities of ac are slightly sidelined while they do something just straightahead new and strong.

schlump, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 04:30 (fifteen years ago) link

oh man i'm really jealous. can't wait to hear this

OT: does anyone have the new Fredrik record Na Na Ni? I've listened to almost all of the tracks either on their myspace or last.fm, but I cannot find it anywhere (I think it was released today, the 28th). "Alina's Place" is one of the best songs of the year, IMO. anyway, if anyone could help me out, that'd be great :)

Kevin Keller, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 04:57 (fifteen years ago) link

hahaha thought you guys were totally kidding about the cover art, that thing was posted on noizeboard a couple years ago but the original image disappeared

― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Wednesday, April 12, 2006 1:23 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Almonds are noize?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, April 12, 2006 1:28 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

oh jesus that is awesome

― pssst - badass revolutionary art! (plsmith), Wednesday, April 12, 2006 1:31 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Those almonds are better than acid. At least at this point in my life.

― trees (treesessplode), Monday, April 17, 2006 4:49 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i have seen god and he is an almond

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whoah, that is cool. how do i shot pulsating gif image?

― dar1a g (daria g), Monday, April 17, 2006 7:58 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark

dmr, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link

the postcard they had at the listening party doesn't move as much for me as the internet image. also, the record is crazy and so awesome. i can't belive the quote iheard by them saying they didn't know if it would sound electronic to people or not. it sounds completely electronic.

mizzell, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 16:53 (fifteen years ago) link

mizzell, it was a printing issue. that's why it didn't move.

beta blog, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link

that's funny.

mizzell, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link

playing nyc the day the lp drops, touring and stuff.

schlump, Wednesday, 5 November 2008 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link

dammit/same day as inauguration roadtrippin' possibilities.

schlump, Thursday, 6 November 2008 01:53 (fifteen years ago) link

doors open at 8 -- how far is dc from nyc?

kamerad, Thursday, 6 November 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link

one song from this has leaked. it is good.

t_g, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 11:30 (fifteen years ago) link

production is so clear like that gang gang dance album. this is a good trend.

t_g, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 11:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Clear production would be a BIG bonus for me from them.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 12:53 (fifteen years ago) link

I am equally against clear production for AC ... I prefer it when they sound weird and mysterious.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 14:01 (fifteen years ago) link

site:rapidshare.com merriweather post pavilion

nothing

let me know when this leaks

Kevin Keller, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 14:29 (fifteen years ago) link

God knows I hate to be a tease, but this record is just sublime!

Stevie T, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link

i can't belive pfork is linking to the leaked track...

mizzell, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link

what part of that don't you get?

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link

don't they usually only show sanctioned things in that section?

mizzell, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link

i dont know. it seems like they make it pretty clear that they just got the link from somewhere else. and it's not like they're hosting it or anything.

t_g, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Animal Collective gone electronic.
wake up - Trance lovers

Zeno, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link

((((((d-_-b)))))

lupe fiasco from the hilarious lupe fiasco albums (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link

brothersport sounds quite good...i think if it was my first time hearing it i'd be floored.
that being said, having heard the NPR session or whatever it was about 50 times already, I think i prefer that one :(

Kevin Keller, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Has this leaked already? I keep reading on several blogs and music sites of how 'my girls' and 'bluish' are some of AC's best work.

Moka, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link

just a few songs...the ones you mentioned and the one i mentioned above

k3vin k3ll3r (Kevin Keller), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Could somebody post a link to the album version of "Brothersport"? Anybody?

Beatrix Kiddo, Thursday, 20 November 2008 17:42 (fifteen years ago) link

psst...
http://hypem.com/search/brothersport/1/

k3vin k3ll3r (Kevin Keller), Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link

http://grizzly-bear.net/blog/

mizzell, Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Could somebody post a link to the album version of 'my girls' and 'bluish'? Anybody?

Zeno, Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link

also, after hearing it once, i would say that bro sport is the song that probably improved the least from live to record because it utilized their live energy the most.
also this rip from the french podcast or whatever is pretty bad quality. think it will sound better on the record.

mizzell, Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link

thank you thank you thank you

Beatrix Kiddo, Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link

i heard an excerpt from the album version of "also frightened".
the track is amazing.
sounds like a track that could be from "piper at the gates of dawn", on;y with the AC touch.

Zeno, Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link

on first listen, the npr live version trumps the studio version by a lot - studio version's too clean, not overwhelming enough somehow. of course, i'm listening to this on Windows Media Player right now - car speakers might make this sound different...

Beatrix Kiddo, Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link

still a great, great song tho

Beatrix Kiddo, Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:32 (fifteen years ago) link

doors open at 8 -- how far is dc from nyc?

― kamerad, Thursday, November 6, 2008 4:05 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark

i was actually toying with this, because there's a five pm train (with inauguration lasting til four, apparently, but i don't know what portion of the proceedings that covers) that would theoretically cruise you right back into the city in time to bowl in and see them play. but i heard whispers that dc is going to be busy on january the twentieth, that transport and getting around might be confusing. it also makes me feel stupid because i'd be leaving something historical to be all muso for the evening, so i'm trying to force myself to go inauguration, if i can make it.

anyway - bro sport is the most straightforward transition from live to record - things like my girls are way different, different parts, big badu beats rather than the kind of ephemeral (sorry, i am not a journalist) synth noise of the live versions.

schlump, Thursday, 20 November 2008 19:01 (fifteen years ago) link

mizzell and beatrix OTM. i said something similar upthread

k3vin k3ll3r (Kevin Keller), Thursday, 20 November 2008 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link

hahaha thought you guys were totally kidding about the cover art, that thing was posted on noizeboard a couple years ago but the original image disappeared

I remember posting it at one point on nb, almost said something last month when I saw an interview w/ the album cover artist talking about it like he'd painted the ceiling of the sistine chapel

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/thelatestworks35cn.gif

Edward III, Thursday, 20 November 2008 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I downloaded it from some azn dude who had a site of optical illusions he'd developed, I remember opening it in a graphics program to make sure it wasn't an animated gif

Edward III, Thursday, 20 November 2008 22:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I just want to be the first to say that "Summertime Clothes" is gonna be the jam to pwn all jams on this album.

I've encountered Whiney on numerous message boards and (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 20 November 2008 22:07 (fifteen years ago) link

is "Brother Sport" nu-balearic?

Andrew Sandwich, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe this album will actually have some cohesion (aka music theory) that the other albums so much lacked. not that I have anything against avant-garde or experimental music, but I like mine about 60/40 weird/normal. animal collective has been consistently about 90/10 weird(noodling around)/normal.

I am listening to Summertime Clothes right now... I'm halfway through it and I do notice some more for lack of a better term, music theory, but overall it's not very memorable in the same way as I don't play my Future Sounds of London - Lifeforms album very often.

❤ⓛⓞⓥⓔ❤ (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 01:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Say what?

I might go to the album playback tomorrow, most likely not as I need the overtime moolah more.

Mister Craig, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 01:27 (fifteen years ago) link

animal collective has been consistently about 90/10 weird(noodling around)/normal.

?! Strawberry Jam was a totally normal indie rock record, it sounded like Deerhunter?!

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 02:22 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah; i think the first few records are a little frustratingly stop and start, but this does not apply to strawberry jam.

y'oughtta go to the playback, craig, the one i went to was fun. it made me wish that there were evenings with people sitting on chairs listening to records being played even without the fanfare of it being new, or whatever.

most excited about bopping around to my girls and bluish when it comes out. take THAT, summertime clothes. daily routine too.

schlump, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 02:41 (fifteen years ago) link

?! Strawberry Jam was a totally normal indie rock record, it sounded like Deerhunter?!

I'm sorry, but someone has to say it: RONG!

Z S, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 03:02 (fifteen years ago) link

what the hell

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 03:06 (fifteen years ago) link

i mean it did sound like more normal indie rock but deerhunter nooo

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 03:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I just don't think it sounds weird at all.

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 03:08 (fifteen years ago) link

"i mean it did sound like more normal indie rock"

i feel like a lot of indie rock acts sound like this, or at least try to in one way or another.

Andrew Sandwich, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 03:11 (fifteen years ago) link

I dunno, I think I have a massive grudge against Strawberry jam because it was the moment I had to admit that they really just wanted to be an indie rock band, I had previously thought there was something singular and special about them and there was.

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link

"i mean it did sound like more normal indie rock"

i feel like a lot of indie rock acts sound like this, or at least try to in one way or another.

― Andrew Sandwich, Wednesday, December 3, 2008 3:11 AM (1 minute ago)

this is all well and good but I was disagreeing with a post that said 90/10 weird to rock ratio

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 03:13 (fifteen years ago) link

uh from what i've heard isn't this supposed to be less like SJ? i agree it was very indie-rock-y, but i didn't think it was bad.
btw someone please leak this thx

k3vin k., Wednesday, 3 December 2008 03:14 (fifteen years ago) link

normal indie rock record

ok maybe they are about 80/20.. I was exaggerating.. the point being that listening to animal collective is like listening to drunks whelping over a morphing moog. also way too flowery.

❤ⓛⓞⓥⓔ❤ (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 04:21 (fifteen years ago) link

i wish this would leak already

Beatrix Kiddo, Thursday, 4 December 2008 20:39 (fifteen years ago) link

everytime i see this thread i think "maybe it's leaked".
and everytime it's a tiny disappointment

Zeno, Thursday, 4 December 2008 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^but "considerably-sized"

k3vin k., Thursday, 4 December 2008 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm excited for this album, assuming they shake off some of the strawberry stuff and add more water curses. they're like a modern day disco inferno kind of.

filthy dylan, Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:48 (fifteen years ago) link

haha!

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Friday, 5 December 2008 04:08 (fifteen years ago) link

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3187/3083240768_f9a88f7bab_b.jpg

mizzell, Friday, 5 December 2008 16:21 (fifteen years ago) link

hey look it's British people listening to the new album. What an exciting time to be on the internet.

mizzell, Friday, 5 December 2008 16:28 (fifteen years ago) link

so much converse

k3vin k., Friday, 5 December 2008 16:33 (fifteen years ago) link

picture is missing guy doing cartwheels down the hallway

Z S, Friday, 5 December 2008 16:37 (fifteen years ago) link

ha ha.
there's also another guy catching the visual feast of people laying around on a messy flaw listening to music a photograph can not capture, for posterity, on the left.

schlump, Friday, 5 December 2008 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Track by track review with plenty of live clips. They were phenomenal at Primavera. I danced like a loon on Jaegermeister and Pro-Plus - the closest I'll get to class A's.

http://thequietus.com/articles/00838-animal-collective-merriweather-post-pavilion-track-by-track-review

Stew, Friday, 5 December 2008 17:03 (fifteen years ago) link

judging by that pic this is a boring record

Doing you a favour mate (Dave from Norwich), Friday, 5 December 2008 17:08 (fifteen years ago) link

looks like a bunch of people waiting for a late pizza delivery

Doing you a favour mate (Dave from Norwich), Friday, 5 December 2008 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

s1ocki, Friday, 5 December 2008 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link

"should we just call again?? they said the guy just left like an hour ago!"

s1ocki, Friday, 5 December 2008 17:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Love this part of the review:

‘Guy’s Eyes’

A juddering, stop-start percussion job with some ambitious and divergent vocal parts.

Not that I could do much better - I'm awful at describing music.

"There appear to be several different tones...at the same time, creating some harmonic effects. WAIT! now there are drums, there may or may not be more than one person playing them together, in rhythm. Then an instrumental section, WAIT! some vocals again! and fade."

Z S, Friday, 5 December 2008 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link

looks like something leaked

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3187/3083240768_f9a88f7bab_b.jpg

Edward III, Friday, 5 December 2008 17:30 (fifteen years ago) link

are there any women at that thing at all?

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Friday, 5 December 2008 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link

they had one of those fairground signs: you must have this much wispy facial hair to enter.

nb in the interests of full disclosure i have a beard that looks like it was drawn on by someone who was bored while on the phone.

also, despite it looking really like some east european bombed out headquarter, seeing this reminds me what a super cool thing it is to do for fans. i can't think of any other groups who put on freebie listening parties in dark rooms with group dj sets, and it's pretty weak that their reward is cellphone recordings of the record appearing on the internet.

schlump, Friday, 5 December 2008 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link

i thought this album leaked a long time ago... what did I listen to?

❤ⓛⓞⓥⓔ❤ (CaptainLorax), Friday, 5 December 2008 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link

oh, it is live... well maybe that explains why I hated it a lot as opposed to a little

❤ⓛⓞⓥⓔ❤ (CaptainLorax), Friday, 5 December 2008 17:51 (fifteen years ago) link

is he crying?

k3vin k., Friday, 5 December 2008 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link

he's CRYING IN THE CLUB

jaymc, Friday, 5 December 2008 20:04 (fifteen years ago) link

dot jpeg!!

s1ocki, Friday, 5 December 2008 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link

what's his deal?
i love how people are standing around taking pic though...real community feel

k3vin k., Friday, 5 December 2008 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link

"pics"

k3vin k., Friday, 5 December 2008 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link

lol white guys

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 5 December 2008 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link

he is just upset cause the web sheriff sent him a letter

Destroyed by the heat jeeeez (jeff), Friday, 5 December 2008 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link

not to be a fun hater or anything but am i the only one who thinks that that pic has nothing to do with humiliation? the fact that ppl are taking pics kinda makes me feel like he was really surprised about something and is in a tears of joy moment or somethin

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 December 2008 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link

i like the web sheriff story better tho

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 December 2008 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link

by the looks of his shows he's a pansy

❤ⓛⓞⓥⓔ❤ (CaptainLorax), Friday, 5 December 2008 21:55 (fifteen years ago) link

shoes*

❤ⓛⓞⓥⓔ❤ (CaptainLorax), Friday, 5 December 2008 21:55 (fifteen years ago) link

I always thought cryingintheclub.jpg looked like he was about to puke.

venom boners are totally canon (nickalicious), Friday, 5 December 2008 23:18 (fifteen years ago) link

this will probably get my fiend at Domino fired.... but Merry Xmas ILM!!!!
http://www.sendspace.com/file/s5ke8m

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 5 December 2008 23:45 (fifteen years ago) link

thanks dude

oscar, Friday, 5 December 2008 23:50 (fifteen years ago) link

holy fuckin shit grady!!

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 December 2008 23:51 (fifteen years ago) link

i can attest by the first 60 seconds that this will be a classic

oscar, Friday, 5 December 2008 23:52 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

some know what you dude last summer (Jordan), Friday, 5 December 2008 23:54 (fifteen years ago) link

EPIC

oscar, Friday, 5 December 2008 23:54 (fifteen years ago) link

i like this way better than anything i've heard by them

some know what you dude last summer (Jordan), Friday, 5 December 2008 23:54 (fifteen years ago) link

eh not sure about this after the first couple of tracks. kinda running in place, aren't they?

omar little, Friday, 5 December 2008 23:56 (fifteen years ago) link

wow "my girls" pwns

gr80 thank u a million for this

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 December 2008 23:56 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't know man, i think this will definitely be considered their "kid a" moment.

oscar, Friday, 5 December 2008 23:56 (fifteen years ago) link

have to be honest: makes me never want to give up

Dominique, Friday, 5 December 2008 23:57 (fifteen years ago) link

*dies*

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 December 2008 23:58 (fifteen years ago) link

they made the record that chinese democracy should have been

some know what you dude last summer (Jordan), Friday, 5 December 2008 23:59 (fifteen years ago) link

tell me it's good!

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Saturday, 6 December 2008 00:00 (fifteen years ago) link

good is an understatement. dealing hard over here.

oscar, Saturday, 6 December 2008 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link

What's it like!

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Saturday, 6 December 2008 00:02 (fifteen years ago) link

i knew that they were kinda leaning balearic but this is god

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 6 December 2008 00:03 (fifteen years ago) link

i swear, this band just rolls with every punch and puts out great record after great record

no let up from these guys

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 00:04 (fifteen years ago) link

you people are drinking the kool aid imo

omar little, Saturday, 6 December 2008 00:05 (fifteen years ago) link

grady, ive mailed you my heart

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 6 December 2008 00:05 (fifteen years ago) link

dude, you need to hold onto that

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Saturday, 6 December 2008 00:05 (fifteen years ago) link

you have to with animal collective or you're missing the point imo xpost

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 00:06 (fifteen years ago) link

seriously? ok i'm listening to it and i "get" what they're trying to do, i "get" animal collective. but this is pretty weak. maybe it's just a shitty leak or whatever but the production sucks and the tunes are total shit at first pass.

omar little, Saturday, 6 December 2008 00:10 (fifteen years ago) link

i can guarantee there are some dudes that work for domino that lurk here. dl that shit before it gets taken down.

oscar, Saturday, 6 December 2008 00:11 (fifteen years ago) link

sounds promising!

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Saturday, 6 December 2008 00:11 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm glad this is more water curses than sj

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Saturday, 6 December 2008 00:19 (fifteen years ago) link

hahahahahahahha good one!

M@tt He1ges0n, Saturday, 6 December 2008 00:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Somehow this seems even more "experimental" than something like Here Comes The Indian, yet definitely rooted in pop...wow...Gr8080 you RULE.

jonathan - stl, Saturday, 6 December 2008 00:28 (fifteen years ago) link

this is like when everyone was hyped up for hardest way to make an easy living and kept trying to tell themselves it was "good" when anyone with a brain recognized that it "blew"

omar little, Saturday, 6 December 2008 00:30 (fifteen years ago) link

omar consistently off the money in this thread -- AC have stepped up their game in a big way

huge huge album here dunno how anyone could hear it differently -- by far the best album and will be tough to top in 09

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 6 December 2008 01:43 (fifteen years ago) link

surprised this isnt on what yet... we may get a visit from the sherriff just yet

Destroyed by the heat jeeeez (jeff), Saturday, 6 December 2008 02:04 (fifteen years ago) link

oh wow this is the best shit i've ever heard. gr80 you are seriously teh coolest bro in the world and i'm going to give you a big wet hug when i come to hawaii

Lingbert, Saturday, 6 December 2008 02:14 (fifteen years ago) link

my mind is seriously blown right now. if only i was eating pizza drizzled with dark chocolate right now i would be in omg heaven.

Lingbert, Saturday, 6 December 2008 02:15 (fifteen years ago) link

grady you are so fucking amazing.

Lingbert, Saturday, 6 December 2008 02:15 (fifteen years ago) link

y/h?

deej, Saturday, 6 December 2008 02:17 (fifteen years ago) link

i can only concur, this is the best of its sort i've ever experienced, or could ever imagine

country matters, Saturday, 6 December 2008 02:19 (fifteen years ago) link

oh wow this is the best shit i've ever heard. gr80 you are seriously teh coolest bro in the world and i'm going to give you a big wet hug when i come to hawaii

^^^sick

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 02:20 (fifteen years ago) link

I think I've already found my #1 of 2009.

Millsner, Saturday, 6 December 2008 02:31 (fifteen years ago) link

so am i the only one that just got rickrolled

uptown churl, Saturday, 6 December 2008 02:38 (fifteen years ago) link

what?

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 6 December 2008 02:40 (fifteen years ago) link

ffs, 'uptown churl'

country matters, Saturday, 6 December 2008 02:43 (fifteen years ago) link

http://tim.movementarian.com/wp-content/real%20genius.jpg

s1ocki, Saturday, 6 December 2008 02:44 (fifteen years ago) link

i just downloaded that zip and it was 'never gonna give you up' 9 times.

uptown churl, Saturday, 6 December 2008 02:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I RUINED THE JOKE BAN ME

uptown churl, Saturday, 6 December 2008 02:52 (fifteen years ago) link

http://codebloo.net/stuff/picard-headesk.jpg

omar little, Saturday, 6 December 2008 02:53 (fifteen years ago) link

ffs, 'uptown churl'

― country matters, Saturday, 6 December 2008 02:43 (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

country matters, Saturday, 6 December 2008 02:53 (fifteen years ago) link

actually it was 11 times you boring piece of shit

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Saturday, 6 December 2008 02:54 (fifteen years ago) link

suggesthttp://i12.tinypic.com/4ya30k4.gif

omar little, Saturday, 6 December 2008 02:55 (fifteen years ago) link

more than 11 as it restarted during each 'song', but it hurts my heart to have to give specifics :(

country matters, Saturday, 6 December 2008 02:55 (fifteen years ago) link

here's a specific: you are suggest banned :)

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Saturday, 6 December 2008 02:57 (fifteen years ago) link

sorry getting you 2 mixed up

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Saturday, 6 December 2008 02:57 (fifteen years ago) link

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f110/jim7bob/banned-1.gif

omar little, Saturday, 6 December 2008 02:57 (fifteen years ago) link

TEAM

what is our next move?

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 6 December 2008 02:59 (fifteen years ago) link

♪☺♫☻ it is ok. i accept that your motives were pure.

country matters, Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:01 (fifteen years ago) link

on the + side im sure many people wont read the whole thread before dling

deej, Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:02 (fifteen years ago) link

what can i say im gullible. sorry if inadvertently thwarting a rickroll in late 2008 ruined anyone's friday night! ... maybe now it's time to go out and have some drinks eh?

uptown churl, Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:04 (fifteen years ago) link

i think most ppl will click the download but it wont finish by the time they get to the bottom

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:04 (fifteen years ago) link

link is lost in the "posts hidden" bit, maybe this sordid episode can be similarly buried and the link re-upped

country matters, Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Best to blow as much hot air as possible then?

Millsner, Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:05 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah you are all assuming people will want to read an entire thread about an unreleased album, but maybe "im gullible", who knows

country matters, Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:06 (fifteen years ago) link

are you and uptown churl like some sort of country mouse / city mouse tag team?

s1ocki, Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:10 (fifteen years ago) link

there is unfortunate serendipity in our choices of username, granted

country matters, Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link

just stop reminding people about grady's rickrolling prank

Destroyed by the heat jeeeez (jeff), Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:13 (fifteen years ago) link

wait, so this is a fake. fuck.

k3vin k., Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:14 (fifteen years ago) link

kev it's only the first song

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:15 (fifteen years ago) link

the rest are demos

craig sager (eman), Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:16 (fifteen years ago) link

jordan, is this it or not, im conf. it's halfway done dling, should i keep going. seriously though, i could be studying for finals (next week but still), but i was going to put it off if this was the real deal. just hit me with the truth plz

k3vin k., Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:18 (fifteen years ago) link

there is unfortunate serendipity in our choices of username, granted

― country matters, Friday, December 5, 2008 5:12 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

....louis????

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:18 (fifteen years ago) link

haha kev fuck animal collective and fuck finals -- you are in college and it's friday night

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:19 (fifteen years ago) link

it's real though ;-)

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:19 (fifteen years ago) link

haha i knoww but there's nothing going on due to the time of year (finals), besides this one party i got invited to. didnt feel like paying five bucks anyway :p
but it's real? great, i'm excited. DONT LET ME DOWN :)

k3vin k., Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:21 (fifteen years ago) link

kevin k reconsidered.

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:22 (fifteen years ago) link

you're getting SO MANY suggest bans if this is fake :p

k3vin k., Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:27 (fifteen years ago) link

u can only suggest ban us once each

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:27 (fifteen years ago) link

8---D~ ~ ~ ~

craig sager (eman), Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:28 (fifteen years ago) link

FUCK YOU GUYS

k3vin k., Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:28 (fifteen years ago) link

"UGH, not okay guys"
-Liz Lemon

k3vin k., Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:31 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:32 (fifteen years ago) link

this leak is bringing 1000s of hits to my blog

kudos

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:32 (fifteen years ago) link

bless your little heart, kevin.

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:33 (fifteen years ago) link

roxy-- any comments yet?

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:33 (fifteen years ago) link

mostly rude

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:33 (fifteen years ago) link

http://leaksnleaks.blogspot.com/

^^this blog has the leak up too

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 6 December 2008 03:35 (fifteen years ago) link

*THIS THREAD IS NOW ABOUT NIRVANA*

brightscreamer, Saturday, 6 December 2008 04:09 (fifteen years ago) link

lol, did you make those comments?

k3vin k., Saturday, 6 December 2008 04:24 (fifteen years ago) link

this is my favorite animal collective unreleased free download fast file transfer new animal collective album download Merriweather Post Pavilion of the year

free, safe, anonymous

michael, Saturday, 6 December 2008 04:29 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost

sadly only a couple

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 04:39 (fifteen years ago) link

guys i just got like 600 hits to my blog in an hour

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 04:53 (fifteen years ago) link

on a fri night too!

deej, Saturday, 6 December 2008 04:55 (fifteen years ago) link

lol @ nabisco comment

deej, Saturday, 6 December 2008 04:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Ned Raggett said...

Dang! This sounds like much goodness. :-)
December 5, 2008 11:57 PM

craig sager (eman), Saturday, 6 December 2008 05:00 (fifteen years ago) link

guys i have lost control

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 05:01 (fifteen years ago) link

kevin i see you: http://www.stephenmalkmus.com/punbb/upload/viewtopic.php?pid=218566

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 05:06 (fifteen years ago) link

being talked about here also http://animalcollective.org/community/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=26&start=20

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 05:07 (fifteen years ago) link

kk you have been suggest banned

deej, Saturday, 6 December 2008 05:08 (fifteen years ago) link

haha just tryna save that dude the time. i'm all for punking other peeps tho :D

k3vin k., Saturday, 6 December 2008 05:09 (fifteen years ago) link

xp http://www.kimball.k12.sd.us/FIRE/home%20alone.jpg

k3vin k., Saturday, 6 December 2008 05:09 (fifteen years ago) link

well wouldnt you like to punk everyone on there?

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 05:10 (fifteen years ago) link

i kind of know the person who upped that. i kind of know the person who upped that. i kind of know the person who upped that. i kind of know the person who upped that. i kind of know the person who upped that. i kind of know the person who upped that. i kind of know the person who upped that. i kind of know the person who upped that. i kind of know the person who upped that. i kind of know the person who upped that. i kind of know the person who upped that.

craig sager (eman), Saturday, 6 December 2008 05:10 (fifteen years ago) link

lol, why did you post it on the malk board of all places though? if i didn't check here already i totally would have fell for it

k3vin k., Saturday, 6 December 2008 05:10 (fifteen years ago) link

hahaha

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 05:10 (fifteen years ago) link

HA FINE *DELETES*

k3vin k., Saturday, 6 December 2008 05:11 (fifteen years ago) link

hahaha

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Saturday, 6 December 2008 05:12 (fifteen years ago) link

thankig u

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 05:12 (fifteen years ago) link

lex pretend said...

blimey, this is better'n rihanna!
December 6, 2008 12:07 AM

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Saturday, 6 December 2008 05:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Anonymous said...

The end of the Mayan calendar falls on December 21, 2012
December 6, 2008 12:13 AM

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Saturday, 6 December 2008 05:16 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah wtf at that one

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 05:17 (fifteen years ago) link

ugh now im not gonna believe anyone who actually leaks it :/
lol if this blows the internet up i will be so happy

k3vin k., Saturday, 6 December 2008 05:19 (fifteen years ago) link

you guys that was just the same song over and over again not real

Z S, Saturday, 6 December 2008 05:58 (fifteen years ago) link

re-up 4 those who missed it: http://www.sendspace.com/file/s5ke8m

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Saturday, 6 December 2008 06:02 (fifteen years ago) link

*downloading*

Z S, Saturday, 6 December 2008 06:04 (fifteen years ago) link

i knew that they were kinda leaning balearic but this is god

― Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Saturday, December 6, 2008 12:03 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

A++

M@tt He1ges0n, Saturday, 6 December 2008 06:17 (fifteen years ago) link

grady u have expanded space and time by leaking this record for us
thank u YOU ARE THE MAN

ghost (jergins), Saturday, 6 December 2008 06:18 (fifteen years ago) link

:D @ the saint entienne sample in "blueish"

these dudes are amazing

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 6 December 2008 06:51 (fifteen years ago) link

thanks grady!

kamerad, Saturday, 6 December 2008 07:08 (fifteen years ago) link

i was so pissed but this was great!

Bee OK, Saturday, 6 December 2008 07:17 (fifteen years ago) link

never gonna give them up

kamerad, Saturday, 6 December 2008 07:20 (fifteen years ago) link

one of the few bands that hasn't let me down yet

Millsner, Saturday, 6 December 2008 07:25 (fifteen years ago) link

this album has got me rickin and rollin

Destroyed by the heat jeeeez (jeff), Saturday, 6 December 2008 08:20 (fifteen years ago) link

great album that you leaked!!!!

s1ocki, Saturday, 6 December 2008 08:34 (fifteen years ago) link

This is such a leap forward for them and is really making me appreciate the Feels/SJ stuff now.

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Saturday, 6 December 2008 10:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Ok im gonna ruin it for those who still havent downloaded that grady 'leak' because im piss drunk and I download it in hopes of listening it and I found it was eleven times that stupid rick astley song. Yah download and get rickrolled ha ha.

Moka, Saturday, 6 December 2008 11:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm surprised you losers kept up with the game so far, fucking idiots, yes I got rickrolled and im on a rampage. boo hoo. I mentioned im helluv drunk yes?

Moka, Saturday, 6 December 2008 11:47 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

THE KRAMPUS (The Reverend), Saturday, 6 December 2008 12:01 (fifteen years ago) link

re-up 4 those who missed it: http://www.sendspace.com/file/s5ke8m

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Saturday, 6 December 2008 13:09 (fifteen years ago) link

dude what is the password?

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Saturday, 6 December 2008 13:13 (fifteen years ago) link

"guess papers"

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Saturday, 6 December 2008 13:17 (fifteen years ago) link

awes, listening now!

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Saturday, 6 December 2008 13:19 (fifteen years ago) link

This is really good.

Reatards Unite, Saturday, 6 December 2008 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link

"Sorry, the file you requested is not available.

The file has been deleted. It did not comply with our terms of service. "

Zeno, Saturday, 6 December 2008 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link

never gonna give them up

― kamerad, Saturday, December 6, 2008 2:20 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
one of the few bands that hasn't let me down yet

― Millsner, Saturday, December 6, 2008 2:25 AM (7 hours ago)

A+

k3vin k., Saturday, 6 December 2008 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link

the way dudes react to this band is more extreme than the way 15-year-olds freak out about tokio hotel.

maura, Saturday, 6 December 2008 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link

for the love of god, someone post this in ye olde terces ecalp already

all the existing links are down

Beatrix Kiddo, Saturday, 6 December 2008 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link

maura did u listen 2 the leak tho--itll change ur opinion

beyonc'e (max), Saturday, 6 December 2008 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh no it's gone again...my haert is braeking!

"I Like My Hogen-Mogen" (nickalicious), Saturday, 6 December 2008 16:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I like my fake quote, I do.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 6 December 2008 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link

need a reup, the comments i had to mod on my blog today were 90% "can someone reup" (and 10% "choke on my mess of a schlong" -- ?)

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link

< MPP ~ check out this blog right now(if you wanna be rickrolled)
alvin

New postPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:34 pm Reply with quote

Joined: 18 Mar 2008
Posts: 364
Location: NJ

http://roxymuzak.blogspot.com/

I'm sorry. We must kill this person whose blog this is.

This is her email: emily✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧
Go for it!

mizzell, Saturday, 6 December 2008 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link

haha oh yeah, my gmail inbox was completely spammed this AM, p.s.

these ppl are on their shit.

one guy told me i look like a hockey player -- ????? lol

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 17:54 (fifteen years ago) link

this was worse than 9/11

A little far there, Frusciante (misspelled) avatar.

ok ok

this was worse than the holocaust

worse than both of those combined times 35

mizzell, Saturday, 6 December 2008 17:55 (fifteen years ago) link

ahaha amazing animal weirdos

ice cr?m, Saturday, 6 December 2008 17:55 (fifteen years ago) link

someday i could post a catalog of the best abuse i've gotten out of this ordeal.

the winner of the last few hours is probably:

"fake shit u piece of shit, i hope u get raped by a gay slob u shithead"

um, LOL

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 17:56 (fifteen years ago) link

what are those from mizzell???

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link

yr next post should be a compendium of these titled "animal collective is pretty boring really if you think abt it"

ice cr?m, Saturday, 6 December 2008 17:58 (fifteen years ago) link

i think i might post something in a few weeks asking animal collective fans to plz lighten the F up

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link

no what u should do is continue to antagonize them

ice cr?m, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link

comments awaiting my approval right now:

fake shit u piece of shit

i hope u get raped by a gay slob u shithead

YOU ARE A MONSTER

fuck you

its bogus rickrolling

goddamnit

its bogus. download = rickrolled by a a jackass

well goddamn somebody didnt approve my comment i say i say

fake

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link

those are from the animal collective message board. not sure if the people there are actually crazy or just 15.

mizzell, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link

pls make sure to call them "animal collection"

craig sager (eman), Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link

haha!!!

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link

cue 1 billion emails correcting the name

craig sager (eman), Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link

apparently it is the double L

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link

pls make sure to call them "animal collection"

― craig sager (eman), Saturday, December 6, 2008 1:02 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha yes!

ice cr?m, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:05 (fifteen years ago) link

ahahaaaa

deej, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link

we need gr8080 to reup the zip rite??

deej, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:13 (fifteen years ago) link

next time they should be 192 kbps

deej, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:13 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah that was a real beef that some people had

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link

what someone needs to do is post as a completely pissed off AC fan, who also happens to have the "real" leak. which is also a rickroll.

omar little, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

the best thing is that someone who had apparently downloaded from here also went to my blog and was like, oh man i hope this isnt rickrolls like the ilm one

MEGAROLLED TWICE

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link

ahahha

craig sager (eman), Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link

such ownage

craig sager (eman), Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link

i actually do feel bad for that guy

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link

all told, last night the blog got 2,417 views from this shenanigan

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/primrosehill/asshole.jpg

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link

lol!

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link

that was the first of the influx of emails

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link

"Chornomaz"

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.last.fm/user/chornomaz

omar little, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link

lol chornomaz

deej, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Recently Listened Tracks

Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up 3:32
Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up 3:32
Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up 3:32
Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up 3:32
Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up 3:32
Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up 3:32
Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up 3:32
Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up 3:32
Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up 3:32
Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up 3:32
Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up 3:32

craig sager (eman), Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link

look at his 14th favourite artist

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link

dazed and excused

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link

for this thread, i love you ilm.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/118601.jpg

omar little, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Your musical compatibility with chornomaz is High

Music you have in common includes of Montreal, Animal Collective, The Flaming Lips, The Mountain Goats and Pavement.

k3vin k., Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Upload another photo for this artist Michael Chornomaz

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

craig sager (eman), Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link

lol @ 14th fave artist omgomgomg

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Should we all leave comments on his shoutbox?

Z S, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:47 (fifteen years ago) link

post links to astley youtube vids

omar little, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link

really the funniest thing to me abt all of this is people so looking forward to an album - i mean its just an album

ice cr?m, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link

its the first album since they became a truly mainstream name. It's like their elephant

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah it's def a big deal for better or worse

k3vin k., Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:50 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't know about that

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:50 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah people are like really, really mad, like DEATH THREAD mad?!?! i can imagine dling this for the most anticipated album in my personal history and thinking "lol, i got punked!!!!" the animal collection is just a different type of fan i guess. although to be fair some of them pushed the joke along hence positive blog comments

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:50 (fifteen years ago) link

lol death thread?

deej, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link

hahah THREAT

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:57 (fifteen years ago) link

rollin' with the astley

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Saturday, 6 December 2008 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Wait so did the album really leak or what?

"I Like My Hogen-Mogen" (nickalicious), Saturday, 6 December 2008 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link

NEEVVVER GONNA LET U DOWN NEEVER GONNAA....

ice cr?m, Saturday, 6 December 2008 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link

you should use cryingintheclub.jpg as the album cover art (after you rename it ofcourse)

❤ⓛⓞⓥⓔ❤ (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 6 December 2008 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link

TEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAM

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 6 December 2008 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Re: New Album 2009: Merriweather Post Pavilion
by itisacode on Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:35 pm

Finally, a real leak here, for those interested: http://roxymuzak.blogspot.com/2008/12/animal-collective-merriweather-post.html#comments
itisacode

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Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 6 December 2008 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link

total bro

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link

luna said...
i just downloaded this to the trunk
of my car *disrobes*

hahahaha

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 6 December 2008 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link

hey guys- sorry the link got deleted. i'll re-up as soon as i can.

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Saturday, 6 December 2008 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link

god bless you kind sir

Beatrix Kiddo, Saturday, 6 December 2008 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link

wow look who just joined as a bandmember of animal collection

http://i33.tinypic.com/900tab.gif

craig sager (eman), Saturday, 6 December 2008 19:58 (fifteen years ago) link

HAHHAHAHAaaaaa

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link

ahaha yay

maura, Saturday, 6 December 2008 20:13 (fifteen years ago) link

the anticipation levels for this album are fairly ridiculous - in terms of how much everyone wants to hear it. seriously, google "merriweather post pavilion" and "leak" and it's like junkies fiending for great smack out there.

(admittedly i'm crazy amped for this too - more than i've been for anything in a good long while)

Beatrix Kiddo, Saturday, 6 December 2008 20:21 (fifteen years ago) link

oh man i hope this isnt rickrolls like the ilm one

lol!

poortheatre, Saturday, 6 December 2008 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link

poor guy, REALLY

he was very polite

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link

unlike michael chornomaz

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link

when the inky periods drip from your mailbox

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Saturday, 6 December 2008 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link

aw, i just realized that maybe he is also the person that sent the email reading "i was looking forward to this, and you ruined my day" or something like that

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 20:30 (fifteen years ago) link

i will apologize only to him

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 20:30 (fifteen years ago) link

comic sans

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Saturday, 6 December 2008 20:30 (fifteen years ago) link

imeant this

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Saturday, 6 December 2008 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I just put on Danse Manatee, I don't remember it being this good!

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Saturday, 6 December 2008 20:37 (fifteen years ago) link

it's not danse manatee, it's rick astley. haha you're an idiot.

mizzell, Saturday, 6 December 2008 20:38 (fifteen years ago) link

haha, no, I love when they do that song about giving you up or something, they're so weird!!!!

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Saturday, 6 December 2008 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link

you suck

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link

;_;

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Saturday, 6 December 2008 20:42 (fifteen years ago) link

The best part of all of this is that I have the real album in my possession right this very second.

Reatards Unite, Saturday, 6 December 2008 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link

you ever gonna give it up, and leak it?

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 6 December 2008 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link

don't let me down

k3vin k., Saturday, 6 December 2008 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link

The best part of all of this is that I have the real album in my possession right this very second.

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lol your username is a rallying call for this thread.

mizzell, Saturday, 6 December 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link

???

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Saturday, 6 December 2008 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link

lol mizzell is #1 butthurt a.c. fan

craig sager (eman), Saturday, 6 December 2008 21:24 (fifteen years ago) link

ahha i missed this -- so corny but lol

deej, Saturday, 6 December 2008 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link

the look on his face is all 'wtf am i doing here -- half the people in the audience have no idea whats going on'

deej, Saturday, 6 December 2008 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link

i dont think HE really gets it, to be fair

roxymuzak, Saturday, 6 December 2008 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link

i meant

We must kill this person whose blog this is = "retards unite!"

no offense meant to the people doing important work on this thread.

mizzell, Saturday, 6 December 2008 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link

why did the cartoon network rickroll the parade goers?

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Saturday, 6 December 2008 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link

possibly they were confused about the degree of media penetration this phenomena has recieved

deej, Saturday, 6 December 2008 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link

The really sad thing is that I got soooo damn carried along with all the OMG WTF A+++++ comments on here last night, that I freaked out and blew fifteen quid online like STRAIGHTAFUCKIN'WAY to see these schmoo's play live here next year. Then I got the joke. It's gonna be shit and they're gonna suck aren't they?

NickB, Saturday, 6 December 2008 22:01 (fifteen years ago) link

(Either that or this is now a conspiracy so huuuge, that I'll get to the gig and it will just be Rick Astley playing there in some cosmic tru-life rickster deal)

NickB, Saturday, 6 December 2008 22:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Nice work anyhow ILX!

NickB, Saturday, 6 December 2008 22:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Bastards.

NickB, Saturday, 6 December 2008 22:02 (fifteen years ago) link

ahaaaha

ghost (jergins), Saturday, 6 December 2008 22:04 (fifteen years ago) link

(yeah, they're gonna suck)

ghost (jergins), Saturday, 6 December 2008 22:04 (fifteen years ago) link

last year they were supposed to be playing in dublin and just as i had gotten on the train (€50!) I got a call from ticketmaster saying that they had missed their boat (?) and that the gig was cancelled but to hold onto your tickets cos they'll be valid for the next gig. The next night I found out that they had gotten there late and played a gig at a different venue and I still have the tickets.

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Saturday, 6 December 2008 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link

craig sager (eman), Saturday, 6 December 2008 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link

i liked this at first, but does anyone else think the songs are a bit samey?

M@tt He1ges0n, Saturday, 6 December 2008 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link

gr80 could i get a re-up?

yuon (jergins), Saturday, 6 December 2008 22:48 (fifteen years ago) link

put it on mediafire or something this time so you can count the downloads

caek, Saturday, 6 December 2008 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link

^^ idea of the year

Millsner, Saturday, 6 December 2008 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link

digressing a bit:
i only just found out about the (sssooolllddd ooouutttt) bowery ballroom show, despite spending most days f5ing collected animals. so so annoyed. especially having detailed the ac versus bho dilemma upthread.

schlump, Sunday, 7 December 2008 00:52 (fifteen years ago) link

re-upped @192kbps http://link-protector.com/670740/

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Sunday, 7 December 2008 01:12 (fifteen years ago) link

plz c+p that^^ link to blogs and message boards and NOT the mediafire one thanks

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Sunday, 7 December 2008 01:13 (fifteen years ago) link

got damn the atease board is slow as fucc

deej, Sunday, 7 December 2008 01:23 (fifteen years ago) link

hay guys i posted it in the radiohead forum where they have a 500something page thread about this album --

http://www.ateaseweb.com/mb/index.php?s=&showtopic=235055261&view=findpost&p=4820911

login: borgan
pw: mardigras

deej, Sunday, 7 December 2008 01:32 (fifteen years ago) link

there were also some reax to the 'hoax' yesterday btw

deej, Sunday, 7 December 2008 01:35 (fifteen years ago) link

guys do i need to worry about this:

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We hope you’re well and, on behalf of Domino Records and Animal Collective, we would kindly ask you not to post supposed links to copies of "Merriweather Post Pavillion" on your blog (or any tracks from the artist’s new album – street date 20th January).

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roxymuzak, Sunday, 7 December 2008 05:19 (fifteen years ago) link

hahaha!

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Sunday, 7 December 2008 05:24 (fifteen years ago) link

fucking websheriff

k3vin k., Sunday, 7 December 2008 05:39 (fifteen years ago) link

haha the web sheriff

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 7 December 2008 06:59 (fifteen years ago) link

i shot the web sherrif...

roxymuzak, Sunday, 7 December 2008 06:59 (fifteen years ago) link

http://twitter.com/NOTWEBSHERIFF

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 7 December 2008 07:04 (fifteen years ago) link

how many DLs of this one so far grady

roxymuzak, Sunday, 7 December 2008 08:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Damn, I never thought I'd dig Animal Collective, but this is pretty cool.

THE KRAMPUS (The Reverend), Sunday, 7 December 2008 08:45 (fifteen years ago) link

<3

roxymuzak, Sunday, 7 December 2008 08:46 (fifteen years ago) link

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THE KRAMPUS (The Reverend), Sunday, 7 December 2008 09:02 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^on chornomaz's page

THE KRAMPUS (The Reverend), Sunday, 7 December 2008 09:09 (fifteen years ago) link

lol!!!

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Sunday, 7 December 2008 09:15 (fifteen years ago) link

someone please finish the lyrics

THE KRAMPUS (The Reverend), Sunday, 7 December 2008 09:27 (fifteen years ago) link

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Hi ‘EmilySue’,

We hope you’re well and, on behalf of Domino Records and Animal Collective, we would kindly ask you not to post supposed links to copies of "Merriweather Post Pavillion" on your blog (or any tracks from the artist’s new album – street date 20th January).

We do appreciate that you are a fan of / are promoting Animal Collective, but the label and artist would greatly appreciate your co-operation in removing your links to the files in question (which are now dead in any event).

Thank you for respecting the artist's and label’s wishes … .. and, for info on “Merriweather Post Pavil
http://jon.oberheide.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/rickroll.jpg

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Rick Astley should become the 4th member of Animal Collective, how awesome would that be. He can bring his dancing.

^^^I like this guy's positive attitude.

THE KRAMPUS (The Reverend), Sunday, 7 December 2008 10:40 (fifteen years ago) link

theyre talking about it on nme too: http://www.nme.com/boards/showthread.php?t=190740&page=12

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Sunday, 7 December 2008 10:41 (fifteen years ago) link

how does it feel to be internet-famous?

THE KRAMPUS (The Reverend), Sunday, 7 December 2008 10:45 (fifteen years ago) link

death threat-y

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QUOTE (elementus attacks! @ Dec 6 2008, 01:09 AM)
So is this link a rick roll or something? Cause that's what they're saying on atease.

Yes it's a rickroll man. Don't waste your time. A not-as-funny-as-it-should-be trick. This is rick roll terrorism. This isn't a "Haha, that's a rick roll!" rick roll.

THE KRAMPUS (The Reverend), Sunday, 7 December 2008 10:50 (fifteen years ago) link

how bout a waahmburger with a side of cries

this guy is ok!!

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Sunday, 7 December 2008 10:52 (fifteen years ago) link

lol is that actually deej?

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 7 December 2008 10:53 (fifteen years ago) link

brobee
Yesterday, 08:47 PM
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so this is actually real then?

brobee
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nope. fucking rickroll. i swear animal collective fans/anti-fans have terrible senses of humor. this might have been funny like 6 months ago.

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 7 December 2008 10:57 (fifteen years ago) link

lol @ animal collection fan with no sense of humor callnig out animal collection fans with no senses of humor

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Sunday, 7 December 2008 10:59 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah too bad animal collective didnt release this album six months ago... this prank woulda really been funny!1

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 7 December 2008 11:00 (fifteen years ago) link

where is gr8080 w/ hard #s on how many ppl downloaded this

deej, Sunday, 7 December 2008 12:03 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.ateaseweb.com/mb/index.php?showtopic=235058985

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I don't know anything about them but I was listening to Albatross and the texture of the song seemed similar to that of In Rainbows?
Are Fleetwood worth listening to?

deej, Sunday, 7 December 2008 12:12 (fifteen years ago) link

kevin k being a bro:

http://stereogum.com/archives/twittercomkanyewest-is-fake_040001.html

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Sunday, 7 December 2008 12:37 (fifteen years ago) link

waahmburger with a side of cries

This is from Joe Dirt; which isn't such a bad movie.

"I Like My Hogen-Mogen" (nickalicious), Sunday, 7 December 2008 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link

hahahahaha that wasnt me! funny though :D

k3vin k., Sunday, 7 December 2008 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

God I <3 this thread so much! The album will surely be dissapointing after all this fun

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 7 December 2008 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link

re-upped: http://link-protector.com/671331/

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Sunday, 7 December 2008 17:54 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah this is kind of EVERYWHERE now. so very cool

k3vin k., Sunday, 7 December 2008 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link

grady u sir are a traet

omar little, Sunday, 7 December 2008 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link

it's made the ign boards even haha

http://boards.ign.com/teh_vestibule/b5296/174631547/p1/

M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 7 December 2008 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost ouch, the idea of wondering whether or not fleetwood mac is worth your time based on whether or not they influenced radiohead just gave me a total brainfreeze. wtf etc.

Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Sunday, 7 December 2008 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Date Posted: 12/6 10:21pm Subject: I just got rick roll'd in the WORST WAY!!!
Wow, that's dedication.

http://i18.tinypic.com/6ki7x3t.jpg

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Sunday, 7 December 2008 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link

you've mostly won the universe at this point

Super Cat (The Reverend), Sunday, 7 December 2008 18:46 (fifteen years ago) link

alternate link: http://tinyurl.com/animal-collection

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Sunday, 7 December 2008 18:50 (fifteen years ago) link

fyi i actually listened to the entire "leak" yesterday all 11 tracks start to finish-- just in case anyone out there wished that upon me it has been granted ^__^

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Sunday, 7 December 2008 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link

i think i listened to three tracks in that absent minded oh man i've left european son playing and now i'm listening to compressed noise kind of way yesterday.

schlump, Sunday, 7 December 2008 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link

kevin k being a bro:

http://stereogum.com/archives/twittercomkanyewest-is-fake_040001.html

― rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Sunday, December 7, 2008 6:37 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

hahah this was me

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 7 December 2008 19:27 (fifteen years ago) link

i posted the link in the comments section on his post from last night about panda bear

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 7 December 2008 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link

lol i never looked at this thread because duh fuck animal collective but you guys rule

Freedom Passantino (some dude), Sunday, 7 December 2008 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link

RIP borgan :(

deej, Sunday, 7 December 2008 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link

lol i never looked at this thread because duh fuck animal collective but you guys rule

― Freedom Passantino (some dude), Sunday, December 7, 2008 3:20 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

how is this any way for baltimore's top music critic to speak???

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 7 December 2008 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link

haha i always forget these guys were from maryland once upon a time, weren't they

Freedom Passantino (some dude), Sunday, 7 December 2008 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link

i live like 20 mins from the actual Merriweather Post Pavillion, btw...i think i saw Pearl Jam there once?

Freedom Passantino (some dude), Sunday, 7 December 2008 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link

haha - jiggle panda >>> panda bear

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 7 December 2008 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link

lololol @ websheriff vs roxy

deej, Sunday, 7 December 2008 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link

How is anyone supposed take an entity called Web Sheriff seriously? It's very Village People.

This is probably the best ilm thread ever, good work roxy.

Nicolars (Nicole), Monday, 8 December 2008 00:54 (fifteen years ago) link

gawd I hate you guys, I quickly grab this knowing that I won't be able to listen to it for a couple of days, and when I do...

Merdeyeux, Monday, 8 December 2008 02:26 (fifteen years ago) link

it's 128kbps. Fuck off.

Merdeyeux, Monday, 8 December 2008 02:35 (fifteen years ago) link

o_O

Lafayette Lever hi wtf (ice cr?m), Monday, 8 December 2008 02:38 (fifteen years ago) link

dont even listen to that one merdeyeux -- the 2nd link that they reupped has 192kbps

deej, Monday, 8 December 2008 02:39 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah seriously, I re-downloaded it just to get the higher bitrate. it's christmas come early!

Millsner, Monday, 8 December 2008 02:57 (fifteen years ago) link

love the songs, but the dynamic range compression makes this hard to listen to for me...any thoughts nick?

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 8 December 2008 03:07 (fifteen years ago) link

i heard gr80 worked on some of the mastering for the band, we should check with him!

deej, Monday, 8 December 2008 03:09 (fifteen years ago) link

i wonder if his friend at domino got fired

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Monday, 8 December 2008 04:14 (fifteen years ago) link

december 7, 2008
Animal Collective Teases, Pulls Out, Doesn’t Call Back
by Kat Bee
…that’s what she said!

Entering into serious music journalist mode, though, there’s been quite a flurry of news in Animal Collective land since my last Bandwidth installment detailing my then-upcoming trip to New York City to hear the band’s upcoming release Merriweather Post Pavilion at an exclusive listening party. (The fine people at Stories in High Fidelity have published my review, and it’s a very exciting read, if I do say so myself.)

To catch everyone up, the blogosphere exploded on November 17th when UK-based Fact Magazine posted two short clips of the tracks “Bluish” and “Also Frightened” on their website. Although the files were quickly removed, other bloggers and fans quickly began to spread the clips around the Internet Super Highway. That evening, things escalated further when an unknown French podcast leaked the album’s closing track “Brother Sport” in its entirety—save the last 20 seconds, which featured an enthusiastic French DJ singing the praises of the song in his native tongue.

Naturally, Animal Collective’s label, Domino Records, scrambled to remove all links to the tracks from the internet. Even I became victim of Domino’s ruthless ways when, on the morning of November 18th, I received an angry email from the “WEB SHERIFF” on behalf of Domino, demanding I remove the files from streaming links on my own music website.

In the wake of this ‘catastrophe,’ two more listening parties have been scheduled in the UK, and word on the street is that Domino is preparing to make an important announcement regarding Merriweather within the next 24 hours.

But, for the time being, Animal Collective fans must simply wait with their fragmented mp3 teasers to hold them out until January. It’s hard, I know…But resist the temptation to text them. They’ll call you when they’re ready.

Filed under: New Music @ 5:07 pm

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Monday, 8 December 2008 04:20 (fifteen years ago) link

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http://www.last.fm/user/lejospopo

lol

Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Monday, 8 December 2008 04:41 (fifteen years ago) link

owhat is the word under "animal collective" on the album cover?

☞*☜ (friendly ghost), Monday, 8 December 2008 05:10 (fifteen years ago) link

chornomaz wrote:
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what is that from?

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deej, Monday, 8 December 2008 05:11 (fifteen years ago) link

merriweather post pavillion leak btw :D
http://roxymuzak.blogspot.com/2008/12/animal-collective-merriweather-post.html
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^^lolololololol

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Monday, 8 December 2008 05:12 (fifteen years ago) link

the way i understand it, 33 stereogum readers have given "kevin. k" a thumbs down rating

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Monday, 8 December 2008 05:14 (fifteen years ago) link

The word under "animal collective" on the album cover is "January", no?

Dan S, Monday, 8 December 2008 07:54 (fifteen years ago) link

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what is that from?

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It's from the new Animal Collection album, of course!

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Animal Collector (The Reverend), Monday, 8 December 2008 08:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow, Laurence Bell being a huge cockfarmer on Roxy's blog.

NickB, Monday, 8 December 2008 09:19 (fifteen years ago) link

boycott domino

thereminimum chips (electricsound), Monday, 8 December 2008 09:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, I don't like pizza anyway.

NickB, Monday, 8 December 2008 09:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, wait a minute...

NickB, Monday, 8 December 2008 09:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Laurence Bell said...

Congrats, you have the sense of humor of a nine-year-old (who is 2 years out of fashion.) Remove the links by 5:00pm or legal action will be taken. This is the last "warning" we will be issuing on the matter.

WTF?! This fucking guy. He knows what this is, but still demands the link to be taken down? That's quite absurd, since RA isn't signed to Domino, if I recall correctly. What's the deal? If I were to release my own music and rename it after the titles of AC's album, that would be a problem as well? Crazy times.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 8 December 2008 10:25 (fifteen years ago) link

what if this is the real leak and the whole album was a giant rickroll by animal collective

OTM.

Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Monday, 8 December 2008 10:29 (fifteen years ago) link

LAURENCE BELL (of Domino Records) FAQ

caek, Monday, 8 December 2008 11:33 (fifteen years ago) link

lol what the fuck

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Monday, 8 December 2008 12:06 (fifteen years ago) link

oh snap!

Animal Collector (The Reverend), Monday, 8 December 2008 12:07 (fifteen years ago) link

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♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Monday, 8 December 2008 12:40 (fifteen years ago) link

This is a real leak, what you need to do is reverse the mp3's and play them at half speed then you'll hear the AC tracks

X-101, Monday, 8 December 2008 14:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow, Laurence Bell being a huge cockfarmer on Roxy's blog.

― NickB, Monday, 8 December 2008 09:19 (5 hours ago)

maybe it wasnt him ;-)

craig sager (eman), Monday, 8 December 2008 15:17 (fifteen years ago) link

;-)

Lafayette Lever hi wtf (ice cr?m), Monday, 8 December 2008 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.glasshousepresents.com/Supe%20wink.jpg

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 8 December 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.aliviastoys.com/popples/puffballt2.gif

rent, Monday, 8 December 2008 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2008/10/04/amd_palin-wink.jpg

k3vin k., Monday, 8 December 2008 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link

anyone upped this to any of the big torrent sites yet

s1ocki, Monday, 8 December 2008 15:55 (fifteen years ago) link

thought about that as well, though it would most certainly get you kicked off of what or waffles. but there are others, i suppose *wink*

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 8 December 2008 16:00 (fifteen years ago) link

anyone upped this to any of the big torrent sites yet

― s1ocki, Monday, December 8, 2008 10:55 AM (40 minutes ago)

lol i know of one i can that i don't care about getting kicked from. have to wait until tonite

craig sager (eman), Monday, 8 December 2008 16:37 (fifteen years ago) link

just put it on a public tracker - those private shits will neg it soo fast wont even be worth it

Lafayette Lever hi wtf (ice cr?m), Monday, 8 December 2008 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link

worth it for the comments but i guess u have a point

craig sager (eman), Monday, 8 December 2008 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link

i guess u would post it on a private one then throttle yr upload speed down to like 1k so it took forever for for people to get it - then when they do...

Lafayette Lever hi wtf (ice cr?m), Monday, 8 December 2008 16:46 (fifteen years ago) link

hahaha

craig sager (eman), Monday, 8 December 2008 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Monday, 8 December 2008 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link

re-upped: http://link-protector.com/672817/

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Monday, 8 December 2008 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link

thanks for the link

animal collection, Monday, 8 December 2008 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link

wow gr80 this album is amazing

deej, Monday, 8 December 2008 23:31 (fifteen years ago) link

thanks grady, DLing right now

animal collective merriweather post pavilion leak leek megaupload sendspace mediafire zshare rapidshare collection soundopinions official

omar little, Monday, 8 December 2008 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link

1 download already lol

deej, Monday, 8 December 2008 23:36 (fifteen years ago) link

hey doofs, here's a link to My Girls: http://www.mediafire.com/?cf4rtwtgmmk. almost as good as Rick Astley.

sheep sheet, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 00:09 (fifteen years ago) link

sry do not trust

k3vin k., Tuesday, 9 December 2008 00:14 (fifteen years ago) link

i will never listen to this album b/c even when it is out i will forever assume any download to be a roll

k3vin k., Tuesday, 9 December 2008 00:14 (fifteen years ago) link

They see me rollin', they hatin'

Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 00:15 (fifteen years ago) link

i know, what can you do! it's an awesome feeling leaking an eagerly anticipated song knowing that most people won't even try to download it fearing a roll!

sheep sheet, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 00:17 (fifteen years ago) link

HAHAHAHA the link is REAL

sheep sheet, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 00:27 (fifteen years ago) link

^it's true, you know. Here's a duplicate: http://www.sendspace.com/file/x4at8r

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 00:33 (fifteen years ago) link

i think recording this with albini was a really good decision

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 00:33 (fifteen years ago) link

here's a link to summertime clothes streaming: http://icantfly.com/post/63790778/animal-collective-summertime-clothes-with-love

Destroyed by the heat jeeeez (jeff), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 00:48 (fifteen years ago) link

WHATS IT LIKE!!!!!

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 01:00 (fifteen years ago) link

a pretty merry song

you brought me home to this funky house (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 01:01 (fifteen years ago) link

crazy sonics - nu beach boys

deej, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 01:02 (fifteen years ago) link

another obvious roll: http://icantfly.com/post/63789808/animal-collective-my-girls

can't fault 'em for trying

Millsner, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 01:03 (fifteen years ago) link

three new songs up on fluxblog...

http://www.fluxblog.org/2008/12/songs-from-hive

s1ocki, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 01:04 (fifteen years ago) link

site seems to be down, can someone re-up?

Suggesteban Buttez (jabba hands), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 01:11 (fifteen years ago) link

here u go http://www.zshare.net/download/524534751a4f71ea/

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 01:14 (fifteen years ago) link

yr the best!!

Suggesteban Buttez (jabba hands), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 01:16 (fifteen years ago) link

k but seriously, 'my girls' is dancefloor jesus

Millsner, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 01:28 (fifteen years ago) link

what's it like!

Suggesteban Buttez (jabba hands), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 01:30 (fifteen years ago) link

"my girls" remix: http://www.zshare.net/audio/5245865090ed4930/

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 01:35 (fifteen years ago) link

sweet remix!

Millsner, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 01:41 (fifteen years ago) link

yes sounds real good

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 01:51 (fifteen years ago) link

i am no longer checking this thread. i've been rolled like three times now. i feel like a goldfish!

poortheatre, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 01:57 (fifteen years ago) link

it's funny because the "my girls" link is actually real

you brought me home to this funky house (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 02:00 (fifteen years ago) link

it is real but no one will trust us anymore

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 02:01 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah it's ok, but i sort of preferred the rickroll tbh

omar little, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 02:01 (fifteen years ago) link

omar listen to that remix, i think you will dig it.

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 02:02 (fifteen years ago) link

i had no interest in hearing this album before this shit started - now its got me percolating

Lafayette Lever hi wtf (ice cr?m), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 02:02 (fifteen years ago) link

bros who cried wolf

poortheatre, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 02:04 (fifteen years ago) link

i had no interest in hearing this album before this shit started - now its got me percolating

― Lafayette Lever hi wtf (ice cr?m), Monday, December 8, 2008 8:02 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

your welcome laurence bell!!

you brought me home to this funky house (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 02:05 (fifteen years ago) link

i was rickrolled twice, and d/led a torrent (which I never do) that asked me to go a site to register my free password before listening. i should actually go, just to see what the darkest depths of suckerdom look like.

Andrew Sandwich, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 02:10 (fifteen years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a9/My_girl_ver1.jpg

craig sager (eman), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 02:13 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost
it's the only way to be sure.

Millsner, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 02:14 (fifteen years ago) link

is there an animated george scott in hardcore 'turn it off!' .gif?

poortheatre, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 02:15 (fifteen years ago) link

my girls is out [no rollin]

schlump, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 05:40 (fifteen years ago) link

at this point someone in this thread could post "'my girls' is out also you automatically get a $200,000 credit from domino if you download the mp3" and it wouldn't matter

you brought me home to this funky house (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 05:42 (fifteen years ago) link

it is fantastic though - so full and enveloping

you brought me home to this funky house (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 05:43 (fifteen years ago) link

yay! it was real..

beginning sounds like frankie knuckles. this is the song my gf freaked out about when we saw them in october '07.. used to be called 'house'

poortheatre, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 06:00 (fifteen years ago) link

god i love this band

poortheatre, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 06:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Aren't you supposed to be crying.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 06:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm not quite crying, but "My Girls" is v. good. Panda Bear is definitely bringing something new to the band these days

Number None, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link

This is screaming for a Studio remix

I think I might finally have passed through hating them for the greatness they rejected and loving them for the greatness they're embracing. Strawberry Jam still sucks but this is great!!!

Take You Down (I know, right?), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 14:55 (fifteen years ago) link

This is exactly what I wanted their new material to sound like, and I really liked Strawberry Jam.

Sort of like the best bits of "#1" and "Good Girl/Carrots" combined with... I dunno, um, Orbital's "Style" perhaps (provisional wacky reference until i think of something more suitable)?

When the steady handclaps come in toward the end... insanely beautiful.

Tim F, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link

We've entered 'boy who cried wolf' phase, in that I'm honestly not sure if Tim's contributing to Roxy's plot or not.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 15:41 (fifteen years ago) link

lol yeah there is nothing anyone can say to prove the my girls link is real. but is is! probably

t_g, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 15:42 (fifteen years ago) link

I predicted to a couple of ILxors that this will prove to be Tim's favourite album of all time. Or since the Avalanches.

I had a funny time trying to explain the concept of "balearic" to the AC a few weeks ago.

Stevie T, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link

lol waht the animal collection dont know abt balaeric - fuckin herbs

Lafayette Lever hi wtf (ice cr?m), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I would be fine with the Studio remixing Animal Collective. In the same way that the Aphex Twin did most of his remixes.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link

nearly 600 posts in, loving the fact that i may be the only poster to have heard the thing.

and no, i still won't upload it for you.

beta blog, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link

who are u anyway a dick

Lafayette Lever hi wtf (ice cr?m), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^^ oh snaaaaaaaaaaaaap! u got some attitude, mister ;)

Tanganyika laughter epidemic (gbx), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link

see i got mad zings too

Lafayette Lever hi wtf (ice cr?m), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link

every1 h8s beta blog
doesn't read it

el bit, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link

idk what beta blog is talkin about everyone in this thread has had this leak since this weekend

you brought me home to this funky house (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 20:03 (fifteen years ago) link

yes here is a link again if ne1 needz: http://link-protector.com/673613/

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 20:05 (fifteen years ago) link

beta BOG

el bit, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 20:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Please Confirm...
Suggest this user to be banned.

k3vin k., Tuesday, 9 December 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

File Name: Merriweather Post Pavilion _2009_ - ADVANCE.zip File Size: 79.88MB
Downloads: 321

deej, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 02:16 (fifteen years ago) link

^^3rd one too and not even on roxy's blog

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 02:20 (fifteen years ago) link

hahah look like she just put it up there-- no wonder.

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 02:21 (fifteen years ago) link

"I predicted to a couple of ILxors that this will prove to be Tim's favourite album of all time. Or since the Avalanches."

Was there a competition? I couldn't rule out this happening at this stage, except that I like Discovery and The Present Lover more than Since I Left You (although by a little bit only; and yeah for the sake of the comparison The Avalanches works best).

I have listened to "My Girls" so many times today. In an odd way it reminds me of Booka Shade's "In White Rooms", everything building inexorably to a climax that could be remixed into infinity but instead finishes so quickly you have to go back to the beginning.

"I don't mean to seem like I care about material things like my SOCIAL STATS, I just want four walls and a door beside my girls!"

This is kind of India.Arie level earnest-didactic, except the vibe is nothing like that. I like how Panda Bear turns mundane good intentions into urgent truths gleaned through weed-induced revelation. Also "social stats" is kind of random in this line.

Tim F, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 13:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 13:58 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^ A+

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 13:58 (fifteen years ago) link

nearly 600 posts in, loving the fact that i may be the only poster to have heard the thing.

and no, i still won't upload it for you.

― beta blog, Tuesday, December 9, 2008 2:11 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

You were in the room with me when I heard it!

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link

HAHA BURN

Lafayette Lever hi wtf (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 14:58 (fifteen years ago) link

well this has entered me into a world of pain

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link

what happened?

omar little, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link

uh oh

cutty, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 19:54 (fifteen years ago) link

say it ain't so

penice (velko), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 19:54 (fifteen years ago) link

dish rox

beyonc'e (max), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link

free roxy!

M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link

!!!!!!

deej, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:10 (fifteen years ago) link

they already got her

cutty, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:11 (fifteen years ago) link

http://i35.tinypic.com/fc68h4.gif

cat scan (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:11 (fifteen years ago) link

roxy legal defense fund?

penice (velko), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:13 (fifteen years ago) link

http://idolator.com/5106474/the-web-sheriff-questions-answered-questions-remain

caek, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:15 (fifteen years ago) link

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/StormtrooprDave/rickroll.png

web sharif (jeff), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:19 (fifteen years ago) link

roxy shot the sheriff

deej, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:21 (fifteen years ago) link

in a twisted turn of events, rick astley is suing roxy

cutty, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:22 (fifteen years ago) link

lol
http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/12/the-poptimist-files/

penice (velko), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:22 (fifteen years ago) link

http://phillyrockblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/cease-and-desist.jpg

carne asada, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I just read this whole thread and am sad not that the leak is a joke but that the existence of someone who calls himself "The Web Sheriff" and is basically a professional blog commentor with a phone number is not one.

vampire baseball (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link

rev. tariff

k3vin k., Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link

by DavidWatts at 02:28 PM Reply by Email
Cosloy/Cos-Play. Coincidence?

Suggest ban this dude, as soon as he starts posting here

Seanadams Molloy (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link

roxy explains everything here

deej, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:30 (fifteen years ago) link

good lord

k3vin k., Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link

;_;

omar little, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link

wow @ the comments below her explanation

craig sager (eman), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah...assholes

omar little, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link

lol ... eman was that you posting as Ned ;-)

deej, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link

File Name: Merriweather Post Pavilion _2009_ - ADVANCE.zip
File Size: 79.88MB
Downloads: 565
Last Download: 12/10 04:11

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link

can anyone pinpoint the exact moment when animal collective fans became totally fucking unbearable?

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 21:23 (fifteen years ago) link

i mean, i've liked this band forever, but it's starting to feel like telling people you're really into Mudvayne

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 21:24 (fifteen years ago) link

nothing makes me more embarrassed to be a fan of art-rock and a user of the internet than a bunch of people on other message boards i've seen crying over fake leaks and hearing one track and calling this album of the decade.

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^^^

this moment

web sharif (jeff), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link

SAVE ROXY

The Reverend, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 21:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Rev, i didn't recognize you without a weird display name!

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I know, right?

The Reverend, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Did you lose your scarf that day?

The Reverend, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link

http://photo.gangus.com/d/26764-2/zing.jpg

deej, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link

lol jeff

beyonc'e (max), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure the canonization of Animal Collective began when Panda Bear released Person Pitch, after that there was a whole new level of hysteria in their fan base. Saw them in Dublin earlier this year and there was a palpable air of worship in the room. I didn't think the gig was that great but practically everyone i spoke to was ecstatic. Still looking forward to the new one though

Number None, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link

I liked the Panda Bear album and all the AC stuff is gash, so that makes sense.

caek, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 22:47 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i think number none is right

you brought me home to this funky house (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 22:49 (fifteen years ago) link

gash

s1ocki, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 22:51 (fifteen years ago) link

it's a very pretty word, no?

caek, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link

i have a gash on my leg

Tanganyika laughter epidemic (gbx), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link

......PICKED HER UP AT THE BAR LOL AMIRITE?????

Tanganyika laughter epidemic (gbx), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link

every time I go to gigs in dublin I pretty much want to kill everyone though, so I wouldn't really take that as an accurate signpost.

Take You Down (I know, right?), Thursday, 11 December 2008 00:54 (fifteen years ago) link

my girls and that excerpt from also frightened > > > > the other stuff that leaked (part of bluish and brothersport i guess)

Zeno, Thursday, 11 December 2008 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link

animal collective fans are the worst ppl in the world guys

ps, im not being sued afaik

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Thursday, 11 December 2008 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link

yo roxy hit me up on aim

omar little, Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link

animal collective obsessive uptight fans are the worst ppl in the world guys

Zeno, Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link

that's good to hear

k3vin k., Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link

ps, im not being sued afaik

is rickrolling entrapment?

craig sager (eman), Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link

cant get on aim right now omes, ill be at work at 12am though, hit me up then

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link

word

omar little, Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link

can u post about it here?

craig sager (eman), Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link

put it on 77 rox

ice cr?m, Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:13 (fifteen years ago) link

invite me to 77!

caek, Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link

ur not on 77 dude?

beyonc'e (max), Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link

invite system is kinda fucked right now - will see if el tomboto can take care of u

ice cr?m, Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link

can somebody invite me to 77 if roxy is telling about the ac thing?

Take You Down (I know, right?), Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link

pls i luv u

Take You Down (I know, right?), Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I would like invite too pls.

System (call all destroyer), Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link

I need an oink invite too

caek, Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link

dude send me a pic of cat power and i will hook u up

Take You Down (I know, right?), Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh guys spill the beans or I'll twat the bloody lot of you's.

NickB, Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link

lol caek
i would like to know what went down with this whole thing, considering it was i was among the first to fall for it! :p

k3vin k., Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link

turns out 77 is just a load of guys being homo. simply lovely!

caek, Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, basically

the gov (rod blagojevich ha ha) (The Reverend), Thursday, 11 December 2008 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link

how i break it down

ohhhh we pop champagne (deej), Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:33 (fifteen years ago) link

This'll actually probably sell more copies than Chinese Democracy:

Animal Collective Release Vinyl Early

Announce Record Release Parties

Animal Collective’s 9th full-length album, Merriweather Post Pavilion, will be released early on deluxe 2xLP 180-gram gatefold vinyl with full album download card (WAV or MP3) January 6th 2009, on Domino Records in North America. The CD & digital release date will remain January 20th (Jan. 12 UK/Europe). To coincide with the early vinyl release will be a series of release/listening parties across the country in conjunction with Terrorbird Media, Domino, record stores, blogs and college radio stations. The release parties will take place at record stores or venues the week of the vinyl release and will feature pre-orders, Animal Collective listing party exclusive goodies including giant posters and download cards, ticket giveaways and grand prize giveaways of ‘The Domino Years’ prize packs. Every party will be a little different, and information on the specifics of each party will be available on the host’s website. An up-to-date list of confirmed parties will be available at www.dominodecordco.us.

The Cities (details to follow)

Anchorage, AK - KRUA Presents*

Atlanta, GA - Criminal Records - Jan. 1st @ 4PM

Austin, TX - End Of And Ear Records & KVRX - Jan. 3 @ 6PM

Boston, MA - WZBC presents*

Chicago, IL - WHPK presents*

Dallas, TX - Gorilla Vs. Bear Presents*

Eugene, OR - KWVA Presents*

Lawrence, KS - Love Garden Sounds & KJHK - Jan. 6th

Los Angeles, CA - Fingerprints Records & KXLU - Jan. 6th

Miami, FL - WRGP Presents*

Minneapolis, MN - KUOM Presents*

New York, NY - Other Music Presents - Jan. 5th

Philadelphia, PA - WXPN Presents*

Portland, OR - Music Millennium - Jan. 3 @ 6PM

Raleigh, NC - WKNC Presents*

San Francisco, CA - Terrorbird Presents @ The Knockout - Jan. 6th, 7-10pm**

Santa Cruz, CA - KZSC Presents*

Seattle, WA - KUPS Presents*

St. Louis, MO - Vintage Vinyl & KDHX - Jan. 6th

Vancouver, BC - CFUV presents*

*Location & Date TBA

** w/ Maus Haus, French Miami

More cities to come.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link

700 posts before the album even leaks. That might be a new record for this board!

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link

the album DID leak, NTBT

http://link-protector.com/673613/

omar little, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link

San Francisco, CA - Terrorbird Presents @ The Knockout - Jan. 6th, 7-10pm**

lolz

this place holds like 30 people

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure the canonization of Animal Collective began when Panda Bear released Person Pitch, after that there was a whole new level of hysteria in their fan base. Saw them in Dublin earlier this year and there was a palpable air of worship in the room. I didn't think the gig was that great but practically everyone i spoke to was ecstatic. Still looking forward to the new one though

― Number None, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 22:32 (Yesterday) Bookmark

There was an air of amazed ecstasy in the air after a gig on the Feels 2005 gig... way beyond expectations. I keep wanting to hate on them but the new stuff is just too good.

Mister Craig, Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Downloads: 825

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link

the album DID leak, NTBT

http://link-protector.com/673613/

― omar little, Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:41 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

http://www.angelzfunnyz.com/Portals/0/Gallery/Album/3/owl-funny-guy.jpg

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah really,is this fact or fiction?

NewBeefLover, Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link

825 people can't be wrong!

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link

They can.They can.

NewBeefLover, Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I,for one,am in a school library so I can't download the shit to crack the case.

NewBeefLover, Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh,I see the size of the file.It's the rickroll shit.

NewBeefLover, Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:52 (fifteen years ago) link

825 people!

Lingbert, Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link

This is what the world has come to. Instead of listening to something and then determining what is what, people claim to know by looking at the bytesize...

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link

It's the same bytesize as the other hoax.Close anyway.

NewBeefLover, Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link

It's cool

NewBeefLover, Thursday, 11 December 2008 22:00 (fifteen years ago) link

i want the early release vinyl to be a rick roll so bad

k3vin k., Thursday, 11 December 2008 23:31 (fifteen years ago) link

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3050/2778448141_fcc030b3ef.jpg

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 December 2008 23:33 (fifteen years ago) link

looks kind of like my pavement live LP i got yesterday...thanks for reminding me ned - i've got to email matador

k3vin k., Thursday, 11 December 2008 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link

"Dear Matador: why did I buy this again?"

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 December 2008 23:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I think that Animal Collective should do a record with Boards Of Canada.That would be good right?Right?

NewBeefLover, Thursday, 11 December 2008 23:37 (fifteen years ago) link

animals of canada

Tanganyika laughter epidemic (gbx), Thursday, 11 December 2008 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Canimals

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 December 2008 23:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I love me some Manimal Corrective

NickB, Thursday, 11 December 2008 23:41 (fifteen years ago) link

hahaha ned. but NO! more like "why is the artifact that i purchased not fully representative of the band it's from - perfect in every conceivable way?" ;)

k3vin k., Thursday, 11 December 2008 23:43 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^seriously considering using this

k3vin k., Thursday, 11 December 2008 23:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Canimals.A collab between A.C. and B.O.C. with Holger Czukay(or whatever the name is)producing that shit.

NewBeefLover, Thursday, 11 December 2008 23:46 (fifteen years ago) link

yikes yall

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 03:40 (fifteen years ago) link

do tell

ohhhh we pop champagne (deej), Friday, 12 December 2008 03:52 (fifteen years ago) link

yah, please start a thread on 77

The Reverend, Friday, 12 December 2008 03:55 (fifteen years ago) link

i pretty much loathe 77 @ this pount, but ill tell all soon

i just got into work guys

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 05:10 (fifteen years ago) link

:)

craig sager (eman), Friday, 12 December 2008 05:38 (fifteen years ago) link

make a 77 house for sims

craig sager (eman), Friday, 12 December 2008 05:39 (fifteen years ago) link

now THATS an idea

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 05:43 (fifteen years ago) link

how can anyone loathe 77

ohhhh we pop champagne (deej), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:04 (fifteen years ago) link

ok not loathe but it gets on my wick

its just not my pace aight

god its like 77 is the new fried chicken or thickburgers or whatever innocuous thing yall are complaining about this week, jk ;)

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:08 (fifteen years ago) link

what's the deeeeal with french fries and the people who like them

omar little, Friday, 12 December 2008 08:14 (fifteen years ago) link

we are bros lets commiserate about what minute fashion details will cause us to completely discount a woman as a potential mate

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:16 (fifteen years ago) link

how to shot 77?

czn (cozwn), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:19 (fifteen years ago) link

god roxy its like you hate the internet

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:42 (fifteen years ago) link

ok, are you becoming an animal collector too

whats next, gonna call down a plague of locusts on my cats

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:43 (fifteen years ago) link

was referring to this:

we are bros lets commiserate about what minute fashion details will cause us to completely discount a woman as a potential mate

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:45 (fifteen years ago) link

im just ribbin!!!!!!!!!!!!

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:45 (fifteen years ago) link

though i do find that thread laughable, you gotta know im just ribbin

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:46 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah duh

btw: Merriweather Post Pavilion leaked: http://link-protector.com/673613/

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:50 (fifteen years ago) link

<3<3<3<3 thank you so much

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:52 (fifteen years ago) link

omfg!!

the chef (emeril lagasse ha ha) (J0rdan S.), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:52 (fifteen years ago) link

downloads: 962

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 08:53 (fifteen years ago) link

"Brothersport" is fucking epik

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 12 December 2008 09:04 (fifteen years ago) link

963 now

ohhhh we pop champagne (deej), Friday, 12 December 2008 09:09 (fifteen years ago) link

its so worth it you guys

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 09:12 (fifteen years ago) link

anyway thankig u grady

downloaded the album and will def not be buying now. who said it ws like MBV?

czn (cozwn), Friday, 12 December 2008 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link

whats it sound like

craig sager (eman), Friday, 12 December 2008 19:53 (fifteen years ago) link

poppy, kind of on a mid-late eighties tip im guessing

rent, Friday, 12 December 2008 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link

where can i get a copy?!?

yuon (jergins), Friday, 12 December 2008 19:56 (fifteen years ago) link

that live set is amazing....had it on repeat for a few weeks. can't wait to hear the album.

Local Garda, Friday, 12 December 2008 19:56 (fifteen years ago) link

thanks, gr8080!!!

what is my attitude (gbx), Friday, 12 December 2008 19:58 (fifteen years ago) link

it's great!

carne asada, Friday, 12 December 2008 19:58 (fifteen years ago) link

haha holy shit gr80 i had to go through a few confirmations to find out if it was real or not, but it was worth it. thanks

omar little, Friday, 12 December 2008 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link

dang this was def worth the hype!

Lingbert, Friday, 12 December 2008 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link

2500 new answers by tomorrow, for real

what is my attitude (gbx), Friday, 12 December 2008 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link

it's not hype when it's all true OMGOMGOMG

yuon (jergins), Friday, 12 December 2008 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I want the real thing with the artwork, but until then I can roll with this.

Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Friday, 12 December 2008 20:13 (fifteen years ago) link

please can someone really leak this album. this circle jerk has gone on so long you all must have mouldy semen underneath your fingernails.

Local Garda, Friday, 12 December 2008 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link

http://media.tumblr.com/D9QEnuQFohck7b4kf8i6BRi6o1_500.jpg

web sharif (jeff), Friday, 12 December 2008 20:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Local Garda check your email

craig sager (eman), Friday, 12 December 2008 20:22 (fifteen years ago) link

LG, hate to break it to you but this is indeed the real leak of Merriweather Post Pavilion by Animal Collective -- http://link-protector.com/673613/

soup kitchen electro (omar little), Friday, 12 December 2008 20:22 (fifteen years ago) link

please can someone really leak this album. this circle jerk has gone on so long you all must have mouldy semen underneath your fingernails.

― Local Garda, Friday, December 12, 2008 3:14 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

We're not the ones jerking off over anticipating an album from an indie rock band.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 12 December 2008 20:22 (fifteen years ago) link

tbh im jerking off a little bit

beyonc'e (max), Friday, 12 December 2008 20:23 (fifteen years ago) link

(xp) we get it, you went to a listening party

web sharif (jeff), Friday, 12 December 2008 20:23 (fifteen years ago) link

he was in a hurry to get there too

craig sager (eman), Friday, 12 December 2008 20:26 (fifteen years ago) link

OK FWIW GANG

1. I WASN'T BRAGGING ABOUT THE LISTENING PARTY, I WAS COUNTERING BETABLOG'S 100 "FIRST!!!!11111" POSTS.

2. WHEN I WAS "HURRYING" (OMGWTF) TO THE AC SHOW WHICH MAX SO FUCKING DOUCHILY POINTED OUT IN ANOTHER THREAD, I WAS ON ASSIGNMENT, WHICH WOULD BE LIKE MAKING FUN OF ME FOR BEING LATE TO A MEETING AND RUNNING UP THE STAIRS. AHAHAHA HILARIOUS

carry on.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 12 December 2008 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link

btw whiney if you don't have the new animal collective yet: http://link-protector.com/673613/

soup kitchen electro (omar little), Friday, 12 December 2008 20:32 (fifteen years ago) link

thx omar.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 12 December 2008 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link

hey dude next time youre in a rush im going to take my sweet time looking up ur name and credentials and maybe ill have lost the media pass and then maybe youll regret ever posting on ilx

beyonc'e (max), Friday, 12 December 2008 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link

i already do.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 12 December 2008 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link

37% of me being a total fucking sucker for real downloaded ;_;

siskin/skulls, Friday, 12 December 2008 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link

wait, is the link down?

what is my attitude (gbx), Friday, 12 December 2008 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link

max, the first time you posted about it, it was cuet and friendly and lols, but the second time it was clearly lolz whiney which is why i took offense.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 12 December 2008 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link

@Local Garda - check your email

craig sager (eman), Friday, 12 December 2008 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link

everything is so real!

carne asada, Friday, 12 December 2008 20:37 (fifteen years ago) link

u mad

beyonc'e (max), Friday, 12 December 2008 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I think if went and volunteered at a GM soup-kitchen you'd all find that this leak isn't so important.

what U cry 4 (jim), Friday, 12 December 2008 20:42 (fifteen years ago) link

no way! so happy
xp

carne asada, Friday, 12 December 2008 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link

not you, whiney

beyonc'e (max), Friday, 12 December 2008 20:44 (fifteen years ago) link

can't be mad with this music being so good, no foolin

soup kitchen electro (omar little), Friday, 12 December 2008 20:44 (fifteen years ago) link

brb burning my degree

siskin/skulls, Friday, 12 December 2008 20:47 (fifteen years ago) link

has this album really leaked??? if it has, email the link: ledhendrix2do✧✧✧@a✧✧.c✧✧

iRay, Friday, 12 December 2008 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link

ugh, ledhendrix
2doors
@
aol.com

all one word staring at ledhendrix..

iRay, Friday, 12 December 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

look upthread dumbass

yuon (jergins), Friday, 12 December 2008 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link

this link worked as of an hour ago

http://link-protector.com/673613/

Mr. Que, Friday, 12 December 2008 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link

omg this is actually real...

k3vin k., Friday, 12 December 2008 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link

wow this leak. you wouldn't get this from any other band!

siskin/skulls, Friday, 12 December 2008 21:33 (fifteen years ago) link

i am wanking as i write this

caek, Friday, 12 December 2008 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link

typical

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link

iRay check your email

craig sager (eman), Friday, 12 December 2008 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link

hmm...almost reminds me of the new M83, has that real 80s sound

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 12 December 2008 23:09 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't know where you're getting m83, are you DLing from the same link I am? http://link-protector.com/673613/

soup kitchen electro (omar little), Friday, 12 December 2008 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link

omar little check your email

craig sager (eman), Friday, 12 December 2008 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link

got it

soup kitchen electro (omar little), Friday, 12 December 2008 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost

yeah that's not exactly right...maybe if you combined Talk Talk circa Spirit of Eden with Michael Jackson's Off the Wall....on acid

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 12 December 2008 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link

with a soupcon of tom tom club

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 12 December 2008 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link

No, smack.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 December 2008 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link

have you even downloaded this yet ned?

http://link-protector.com/673613/

^^you really need to live with this one for awhile before it hits you

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 12 December 2008 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link

i defly hear talk talk in this!

beyonc'e (max), Friday, 12 December 2008 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link

good i was beginning to think i was the only one

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 12 December 2008 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link

i hear lots of early modern lovers filtered through a DFA meat grinder

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 12 December 2008 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link

The synths are very flock of seagulls

caek, Friday, 12 December 2008 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link

"Guys Eyes" is practically a b-side from Avalon-era Roxy Music

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 12 December 2008 23:23 (fifteen years ago) link

^good call

perhaps a bit scritti politti too

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 12 December 2008 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Not reggae enough

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 December 2008 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link

sounds like Too $hort

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 12 December 2008 23:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Too $hort if he only pimped out angels.

a hoy hoy, Friday, 12 December 2008 23:33 (fifteen years ago) link

omg

negotiable, Friday, 12 December 2008 23:40 (fifteen years ago) link

guys, i can't be the only one who thinks it sounds like a mix between early big star, times-era prince, and later, jazzier, steely dan, right? all of that on acid, that is

k3vin k., Friday, 12 December 2008 23:41 (fifteen years ago) link

on acid is a given

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 12 December 2008 23:43 (fifteen years ago) link

im feelin these soundscapes

ohhhh we pop champagne (deej), Saturday, 13 December 2008 00:08 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm gonna download it again just in case!

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 13 December 2008 00:09 (fifteen years ago) link

might I, may I?

nothingleft (gravydan), Saturday, 13 December 2008 00:31 (fifteen years ago) link

gravydan
at
gmail

maybe?

nothingleft (gravydan), Saturday, 13 December 2008 00:32 (fifteen years ago) link

huh?

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Saturday, 13 December 2008 00:33 (fifteen years ago) link

this thread = cruelty to animals

Shakey Mo Collier, Saturday, 13 December 2008 00:33 (fifteen years ago) link

will you
won't you
will you
won't you

what is my attitude (gbx), Saturday, 13 December 2008 00:37 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe you should go volunteer at an animal shelter, then you'd know what cruelty to animals was!

what U cry 4 (jim), Saturday, 13 December 2008 00:37 (fifteen years ago) link

gravydan person: you can get it at the ilm top secret link http://link-protector.com/673613/ but don't spread it around, the web sheriff be everywhere yo.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 13 December 2008 00:48 (fifteen years ago) link

ohh the previous 807 posts were quite as witty as that.... yo

nothingleft (gravydan), Saturday, 13 December 2008 00:52 (fifteen years ago) link

is it true that they started oink back up again?

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 13 December 2008 00:53 (fifteen years ago) link

yep, and you can apply for an invite here Oink Invites

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Saturday, 13 December 2008 01:02 (fifteen years ago) link

oops i mean here OiNK invites

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Saturday, 13 December 2008 01:03 (fifteen years ago) link

gravydan check your email

craig sager (eman), Saturday, 13 December 2008 01:16 (fifteen years ago) link

caek, Saturday, 13 December 2008 01:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Damn are y'all overrating this. I liked it the first time I listened, but it's been all downhill from there.

The Reverend, Saturday, 13 December 2008 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link

1200

negotiable, Saturday, 13 December 2008 16:15 (fifteen years ago) link

hmmm. anybody wanna trade oink invite for stmusic invite?

iRay, Saturday, 13 December 2008 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link

iGay

iGay, Saturday, 13 December 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

It's asking me for a password on that LinkProtect/ ZShare download...

Whitey on the Moon, Saturday, 13 December 2008 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Dude, the password is "guess papers"

Take You Down (I know, right?), Saturday, 13 December 2008 22:48 (fifteen years ago) link

voice of the party ruiner:
err,mmm...can we make a new thread for this album where we can talk about the REAL music from it?

Zeno, Saturday, 13 December 2008 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link

what?

what.cd invite administrator (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 December 2008 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link

someone's a nutcase

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Saturday, 13 December 2008 22:58 (fifteen years ago) link

fuck are you babbling about?

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 13 December 2008 23:02 (fifteen years ago) link

xxp

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 13 December 2008 23:02 (fifteen years ago) link

real as real Zeno

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Saturday, 13 December 2008 23:04 (fifteen years ago) link

btw zeno if you want to hear the album d/l it here: http://link-protector.com/673613

but dont post that link anywhere else shhhhh

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Saturday, 13 December 2008 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link

ilm massive zero day release group

ice cr?m, Saturday, 13 December 2008 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link

can we call ourselves 'scene' now

alpha ville (jergins), Saturday, 13 December 2008 23:27 (fifteen years ago) link

we are totally scene for real

ice cr?m, Saturday, 13 December 2008 23:33 (fifteen years ago) link

"fuck are you babbling about?"
everything's for the thread extension..

Zeno, Saturday, 13 December 2008 23:43 (fifteen years ago) link

can you post that link again?? i missed it earlier

ohhhh we pop champagne (deej), Saturday, 13 December 2008 23:45 (fifteen years ago) link

i would give everything i own for an ALBUM extension....gimme more, AC!

what is my attitude (gbx), Saturday, 13 December 2008 23:50 (fifteen years ago) link

20/1/2009 -
the official AC day (collective and newman)

Zeno, Saturday, 13 December 2008 23:57 (fifteen years ago) link

http://scareyshop.com/catalog/images/Anal-Cunt.jpg

ice cr?m, Sunday, 14 December 2008 00:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Dude, the password is not "guess papers"

Whitey on the Moon, Sunday, 14 December 2008 00:13 (fifteen years ago) link

might be "guess_papers_is_a_feeling"
try that

animal collection admin, Sunday, 14 December 2008 00:17 (fifteen years ago) link

dying

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Sunday, 14 December 2008 00:21 (fifteen years ago) link

1269

merriweather passantino pavilion (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 14 December 2008 00:34 (fifteen years ago) link

1405

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Sunday, 14 December 2008 23:27 (fifteen years ago) link

[deleted spam]

jizzcannon, Monday, 15 December 2008 01:32 (fifteen years ago) link

good ol' jizzcannon

Lingbert, Monday, 15 December 2008 01:43 (fifteen years ago) link

i found My Girls, it was only a stream (but I know the internet, i found the source mp3)

just give me a friendly email. I assume we all have brother sport

love ac, im gonna pre-order the album in a few!

nominal, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:54 (fifteen years ago) link

check this out, nomi:

http://link-protector.com/673613

thank me later

soup kitchen electro (omar little), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:56 (fifteen years ago) link

that's fake though...it's all rick astley

can't get enough of him either!

nominal, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:01 (fifteen years ago) link

so many people have downloaded that file, it is indeed funny

nominal, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:22 (fifteen years ago) link

how many is it now?

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:42 (fifteen years ago) link

1616

nominal, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link

we all have my girls btw thanks though

k3vin k., Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link

1616 just since the reup!

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 02:06 (fifteen years ago) link

haha wow

the usic man from the hilarious ilx message boards (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 02:07 (fifteen years ago) link

yes one must remember that that number is only the third upload-- the first two we dont have numbers for

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 02:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Extrapolating from blog hits and these recent download numbers, I would guess it to be in the area of 5000 downloads.

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 02:25 (fifteen years ago) link

my calculations put it somewhere in the range of 1m downloads

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 02:49 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.chemistryland.com/CHM130W/02-MMM/Math/chalkboard.jpg

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 02:51 (fifteen years ago) link

is it muuuuuuuch that i feel i neeeeeeed, solid sooouuuuuul and the blood i bleeeeeeeeed

Andrew Sandwich, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 03:49 (fifteen years ago) link

sorry to spoil all the fun, but it finally did leak:

animal collective - merriweather post pavilion

Edward III, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 05:01 (fifteen years ago) link

What the FUCK is that thing?!!!??!

ilxor, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 05:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Ahh, our old friend Cat Without a Face!

Millsner, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 06:06 (fifteen years ago) link

that's terrible hahahah

nominal, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 20:09 (fifteen years ago) link

http://i34.tinypic.com/vrea15.jpg

rent, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 20:13 (fifteen years ago) link

mods delete for creepiness

TUOM Gang (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link

i love how hes all wha now when he first stands up

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link

1720

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 18 December 2008 03:44 (fifteen years ago) link

amazing album

Suggesteban Buttez (jabba hands), Thursday, 18 December 2008 05:01 (fifteen years ago) link

^^this

swamp buggy badass (negotiable), Thursday, 18 December 2008 07:03 (fifteen years ago) link

I never really knew that cats had faces until I saw the cat without a face.

Mark, Thursday, 18 December 2008 08:05 (fifteen years ago) link

^^real talk

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 18 December 2008 12:07 (fifteen years ago) link

hm interesting: album has leaked here: http://roxymuzak.blogspot.com/2008/12/animal-collective-merriweather-post.html

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 18 December 2008 12:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh thanks! It sounds awesome.

Enrique (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 18 December 2008 12:50 (fifteen years ago) link

dudes this is up on oink now :D

kenard à l'orange (jeff), Friday, 19 December 2008 06:46 (fifteen years ago) link

blog has 10,000+ views

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 19 December 2008 06:49 (fifteen years ago) link

did you guys see that a crazed animal collective fan hacked into the email of one of the band members and sent out an email to their fans saying that they should leak the album

robschneiderMk2 (J0rdan S.), Friday, 19 December 2008 06:51 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, that was pretty nuts. i really feel bad for animal collective - i think they're a very good band, but they've got to have the abs worst fans. it's really unbelievable what these dudes will do.

k3vin k., Friday, 19 December 2008 07:02 (fifteen years ago) link

I know-- I feel bad for leaking it here :-/

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 19 December 2008 07:19 (fifteen years ago) link

the fans basically demanded it though

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 19 December 2008 07:20 (fifteen years ago) link

gr80 and u were good enough to give this to us
it is a christmas gift
i will thank u both in church

jergins, Friday, 19 December 2008 07:25 (fifteen years ago) link

i will thank u both in the church

robschneiderMk2 (J0rdan S.), Friday, 19 December 2008 07:26 (fifteen years ago) link

xp yeah but i doubt those fans would find the merriweather post pavilion download link here anyway

k3vin k., Friday, 19 December 2008 07:48 (fifteen years ago) link

It leaked? Awesome!

Enrique (Raw Patrick), Friday, 19 December 2008 08:48 (fifteen years ago) link

this site is in some o_O language but it definitely links to the leak. wonder what it says??? http://quart.hu/cikk.php?id=3200

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Sunday, 21 December 2008 12:24 (fifteen years ago) link

so: this actually leaked, apparently.

Beatrix Kiddo, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 14:14 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.zshare.net/download/524534751a4f71ea/

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 16:32 (fifteen years ago) link

you'll forgive me if i'm not all over that right away. :)

Beatrix Kiddo, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 16:35 (fifteen years ago) link

just dled from what.cd its really good :)

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link

whatever, dude!

http://www.citypaper.com/digest.asp?id=17212

Beatrix Kiddo, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link

haha gradski and roxy are the same person congrats dudes!

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link

!!!!!!!

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Someone who claimed to be the Web Sheriff--but in all likelihood probably wasn't--weighed in, too: "This is awesome."

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 18:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Ugh! This is a pet peeve of mine. In that City Paper article linked above, Mr. Cummings misused the word "bemused." People do this all the time, using it in a way that means "wryly amused" or something to that effect, when in fact it means the exact opposite.

Animal Collective's management? Bemused, we presume. Rick Astley's lawyers? Maybe not so much.

Here is the definition of "bemused"
bemusement - bewilderment: confusion resulting from failure to understand

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 23:46 (fifteen years ago) link

1 : to make confused : puzzle , bewilder
2 : to occupy the attention of : distract , absorb
3 : to cause to have feelings of wry or tolerant amusement

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bemused

FACED

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 23:50 (fifteen years ago) link

you missed the opportunity to make that dictionary link a rick roll

s1ocki, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 23:53 (fifteen years ago) link

FACED

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 23:53 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't know who Ruth B. Smith is, but she's got the definition all wrong. She probably uses "nonplussed" wrong too.

Definitions of bemused on the Web:

deeply absorbed in thought; "as distant and bemused as a professor listening to the prattling of his freshman class"; "lost in thought"; "a ...
baffled: perplexed by many conflicting situations or statements; filled with bewilderment; "obviously bemused by his questions"; "bewildered and confused"; "a cloudy and confounded philosopher"; "just a mixed-up kid"; "she felt lost on the first day of school"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

deeply thoughtful; preoccupied; perplexed and bewildered
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bemused

bemusement - bewilderment: confusion resulting from failure to understand
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

bemusedly - In a bemused manner
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bemusedly

bemusement - The characteristic of being bemused
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bemusement

means "bewildered" or "lost in thought": George was bemused by the unexpected ending to the movie.
www.alphadictionary.com/articles/confused_words.html

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 25 December 2008 00:00 (fifteen years ago) link

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bemused

1. bewildered or confused.
2. lost in thought; preoccupied.
3. wryly or benevolently amused.

FACED

ice cr?m, Thursday, 25 December 2008 00:10 (fifteen years ago) link

kornrulez6969 i am going to blow ur mind right now--the meaning of a word can change sometimes...

eman cipation s1ocklamation (max), Thursday, 25 December 2008 00:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Blog Miracle Saves Christmas

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Thursday, 25 December 2008 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link

that's not about us actually, but it should be

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Thursday, 25 December 2008 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Ha, it actually leaked. Poor quality rip mind you

Number None, Thursday, 25 December 2008 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Quick, somebody make a low-quality rick-roll!

Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 25 December 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

ok here---> http://www.zshare.net/download/524534751a4f71ea/

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 25 December 2008 21:24 (fifteen years ago) link

the vinyl version was leaked at 128 btw
and it's awesome as expected

Zeno, Thursday, 25 December 2008 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah it's good, freeleech on oink

http://www.zshare.net/download/524534751a4f71ea/

smooth challoperator (cozwn), Thursday, 25 December 2008 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link

(rip quality's a bit cack tho)

smooth challoperator (cozwn), Thursday, 25 December 2008 22:07 (fifteen years ago) link

don't know why I even dl'd this, now I have a bunch of ac mp3s on my computer

smooth challoperator (cozwn), Thursday, 25 December 2008 22:07 (fifteen years ago) link

it's not the link you posted

Zeno, Thursday, 25 December 2008 22:13 (fifteen years ago) link

bluish is just lovely.
and yeah, i'm not the kind to bitch about mp3s, but it feels like some of this should be jumping out of the speakers or playing on top of other bits.

schlump, Thursday, 25 December 2008 22:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Ha, didn't believe this at first cuz of all the shenanigans here, but it really did leak!

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 26 December 2008 01:32 (fifteen years ago) link

yup, right here: http://www.zshare.net/download/524534751a4f71ea/

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 26 December 2008 01:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Damn you Roxy...and on Christmas no less. For shame!

Whitey on the Moon, Friday, 26 December 2008 02:11 (fifteen years ago) link

this really has leaked, guys. NO FOR SERIOUS. I think I'll refrain from commenting just now (I overdosed on the two previously leaked songs and so after one listen they're still easy standouts), although I gotta say something about the drums on 'In the Flowers'. Woaaaaaaah. Yeah that'll do.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 26 December 2008 02:53 (fifteen years ago) link

there's a better rip available now, here it is at 320kbs

Edward III, Friday, 26 December 2008 05:55 (fifteen years ago) link

meowy boxing day!

Edward III, Friday, 26 December 2008 05:56 (fifteen years ago) link

in terms of songwriting the record is at the same level as Syd Barrett (Piper era) and Brian Wilson, so it's the best bunch of songs they ever recorded.
Lindsey Buckingham is also a big influence (No More Runnin' for example).
side 1 is slightly better than 2, where the the record tends to get repetetive production wise, but the songwriting is such classicly perfect, it's a masterpiece nevertheless.

Zeno, Friday, 26 December 2008 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link

this band is pretty tedious tbh

ice cr?m, Friday, 26 December 2008 13:28 (fifteen years ago) link

no way ice creams http://www.zshare.net/download/524534751a4f71ea/

smooth challoperator (cozwn), Friday, 26 December 2008 13:40 (fifteen years ago) link

people only pretend to listen to this band - instead they listen to modest mouse

ice cr?m, Friday, 26 December 2008 13:42 (fifteen years ago) link

this is pretty tedious tbh

Zeno, Friday, 26 December 2008 13:52 (fifteen years ago) link

try modest mouse it might cheer u up

ice cr?m, Friday, 26 December 2008 13:55 (fifteen years ago) link

have u heard Hollindagain?????

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 26 December 2008 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link

no WHATS IT LIKE!!!!

eman cipation s1ocklamation (max), Friday, 26 December 2008 14:40 (fifteen years ago) link

like this!

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 26 December 2008 14:40 (fifteen years ago) link

it def compares favorably w/revolver era beatles and mozart - not sure how to describe the sound tho - too original !

ice cr?m, Friday, 26 December 2008 14:42 (fifteen years ago) link

I really couldn't say for sure.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 26 December 2008 14:43 (fifteen years ago) link

pretty zzz this

X-101, Friday, 26 December 2008 16:46 (fifteen years ago) link

this band have the most annoying superfans of any band around, these days. if you don't believe me, check out the collected animals board.

that said, this album is fucking amazing.

Creeztophair, Friday, 26 December 2008 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link

also see the 900 page thread on atease.

Creeztophair, Friday, 26 December 2008 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Didn't Collected Animals die in february this year? Os it it invite only nowadays/reg only?

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 26 December 2008 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link

http://animalcollectin.6.forumer.com/index.php

Creeztophair, Friday, 26 December 2008 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link

lol @ these nerds:

http://www.indie-leaks.com/forums/merriweather-post-pavillion-2009.htm

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 26 December 2008 18:52 (fifteen years ago) link

whoops try this

indie-leaks-dot-com

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 26 December 2008 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link

nothing personal, but you're an asshole for posting that here.

does this thing eventually go away, or will i need to restart my computer?

Beatrix Kiddo, Friday, 26 December 2008 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link

oh noooooo i was typing my entire senior thesis in my hotmail and now its lost foreverrrrr

choom gangsta (deej), Friday, 26 December 2008 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link

we're no strangers to ctrl+alt+delete.

what U cry 4 (jim), Friday, 26 December 2008 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link

this month has me hating that song so much, you have noooo idea

Beatrix Kiddo, Friday, 26 December 2008 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link

linking to the fake rickroll leak: priceless
linking to some supposed forum for us ILXORS to have a laff at, but no not really, actually it's something that NEVER goes away: ;_;

why u break heart gr80?

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 26 December 2008 19:14 (fifteen years ago) link

at some point someone should start a thread that's actually about this bloody album

Beatrix Kiddo, Friday, 26 December 2008 19:14 (fifteen years ago) link

We need to find a way to corrupt someone at Domino's pressing plant and rickroll the retail cd.

Home made ectoplasm (I am using your worlds), Friday, 26 December 2008 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link

that's the logical next step, i suppose.

Beatrix Kiddo, Friday, 26 December 2008 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link

"at some point someone should start a thread that's actually about this bloody album"

done

Zeno, Friday, 26 December 2008 19:20 (fifteen years ago) link

http://luckyoungmatador.blogspot.com/2008/12/animal-collective-merriweather-post.html

yeah, i know! yet another rickroll...

Beatrix Kiddo, Friday, 26 December 2008 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link

people only pretend to listen to this band - instead they listen to modest mouse

Speak for yourself, buddy.

ilxor, Friday, 26 December 2008 20:24 (fifteen years ago) link

o thats rich "ilxor"

ice cr?m, Friday, 26 December 2008 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link

butthurt AC fans are one of the best parts of the internet imo
http://www.getgreatcodes.com/graphics/funny/5/funnypic044.gif

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 26 December 2008 22:47 (fifteen years ago) link

l-r rick astley, gradski, me

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 26 December 2008 22:49 (fifteen years ago) link

It's so weird though, I never really thought of Animal Collective fans as being any sort of collected force until about Prospect Hummer, since then its gone a bit nuts. Even though they were my favourite band for a few years there, can I please not be tarred with this brush? I'm way more butthurt about strawberry jam than I could be by rick rolls.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 26 December 2008 22:50 (fifteen years ago) link

btw, I got a charlie brown book for christmas, 1955-6

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 26 December 2008 22:50 (fifteen years ago) link

its been out for almost 24 hours now

how many people do you think have it?

nominal, Friday, 26 December 2008 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.zshare.net/download/53318330ecd202e4/

it's real. and not x-mas. boxing day. w00t.

nominal, Friday, 26 December 2008 23:24 (fifteen years ago) link

http://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/2009

fandango, Saturday, 27 December 2008 00:02 (fifteen years ago) link

nominal- that thing won't open, and now can't be thrown away- is it a nasty virus of some kind? I'm a double dipped sucker for downloading anything of this thread, obviously

Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Saturday, 27 December 2008 00:33 (fifteen years ago) link

fool me once

Plaxico (I know, right?), Saturday, 27 December 2008 00:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I have some affection for the hyperactive kids on atease (the Collected Animals folks are 50% insane, 50% dicks, though), but something about them finally getting the album and then spending 50 pages wondering when they'd get a better quality version really fucked me the fuck off. Straw, camel's back, etc., I suppose.

P.S. that rickroll, fuuuuuuuuuuck yoooooooou. Although I've bookmarked it, obv.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 27 December 2008 01:45 (fifteen years ago) link

it opens! it does

http://www.zshare.net/download/53318330ecd202e4/

nominal, Saturday, 27 December 2008 02:06 (fifteen years ago) link

strawberry jam is totes best animal collection album imo

ice cr?m, Saturday, 27 December 2008 06:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I have some affection for the hyperactive kids on atease (the Collected Animals folks are 50% insane, 50% dicks, though), but something about them finally getting the album and then spending 50 pages wondering when they'd get a better quality version really fucked me the fuck off. Straw, camel's back, etc., I suppose.

P.S. that rickroll, fuuuuuuuuuuck yoooooooou. Although I've bookmarked it, obv.

I got rickrolled on Tha Carter III so I feel your pain. The shock when the synths come in is incomparable to most things in life.

throwbookatface (skygreenleopard), Saturday, 27 December 2008 07:11 (fifteen years ago) link

have some affection for the hyperactive kids on atease (the Collected Animals folks are 50% insane, 50% dicks, though), but something about them finally getting the album and then spending 50 pages wondering when they'd get a better quality version really fucked me the fuck off. Straw, camel's back, etc., I suppose.

links for lols?

bimble bell rock (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 27 December 2008 07:16 (fifteen years ago) link

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eman, Saturday, 27 December 2008 07:20 (fifteen years ago) link

fucky fucked me the fuck fuck

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Saturday, 27 December 2008 07:23 (fifteen years ago) link

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuk

ice cr?m, Saturday, 27 December 2008 07:23 (fifteen years ago) link

fffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu-

bimble bell rock (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 27 December 2008 07:28 (fifteen years ago) link

-uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccckkk

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Saturday, 27 December 2008 07:38 (fifteen years ago) link

-.

eman, Saturday, 27 December 2008 07:43 (fifteen years ago) link

i still don't believe this leak is real. i am waiting till release day, well done rickrollers.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 27 December 2008 08:43 (fifteen years ago) link

links for lols?

― bimble bell rock (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, December 27, 2008 1:16 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

atease is registered only. RIP borgan

choom gangsta (deej), Saturday, 27 December 2008 09:06 (fifteen years ago) link

grady-roxy axis has deftly shown record labels the way to fight piracy

they're not even asking a consultants fee either

FLEETWOOD COZWN (cozwn), Saturday, 27 December 2008 10:44 (fifteen years ago) link

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Saturday, 27 December 2008 12:30 (fifteen years ago) link

The Harvard Department of Psychology in collaboration with the Indiana University School of Education performed a study to investigate the possible relationship between measured intelligence & music appreciation. Thirty full length albums were selected that ranged from Rogers and Hammerstein to Malawian tribal healing music.Of the thirty albums somehow Person Pitch made the list. 5000 participants from a wide range of socio-economic, ethnic, & educational backgrounds were selected at random. Male/female and age groups were equally represented. The findings concluded that there is a strong relationship between measured intelligence & appreciation of specific types of musical stimulation. Genre proved to be statistically irrelevant but individual tracks and albums were observed to have a strong connection with various intelligence levels. People grouped in intelligence levels in the upper middle-tier & above were found to have a statistically significant affinity for Person Pitch.

cozwn, Saturday, 27 December 2008 13:20 (fifteen years ago) link

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ATM Cash Smiles (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 27 December 2008 13:50 (fifteen years ago) link

http://animalcollectin.6.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=4047

cozwn, Saturday, 27 December 2008 14:27 (fifteen years ago) link

it's real enough. the songs are great! http://www.zshare.net/download/53318330ecd202e4/

i looked at that first post of that link, cozwn

that's nothing to get too happy about, just luck!

nominal, Saturday, 27 December 2008 16:23 (fifteen years ago) link

but i did like the sig of the one contributor:

open up your,
open up your,
open up your coke

nominal, Saturday, 27 December 2008 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link

played this right through twice, which is more than I've managed for any previous project (obv. exception PP) but I'm still confused by this band a little... I'm often not sure what my response is supposed to be emotionally to them? and fuck knows the lyrics (feel like putting that in quote marks tbh) don't help.

I dunno, compare with MBV, Slowdive etc... and I still wonder really, is it just the cool sounds they make that trumps all or are they really just a bit like, bogus?

First listen blew me away fwiw, but the second.. old feelings returning as I was hoping to get deeper into the "songs".

Dunno, help me out here :/

fandango, Saturday, 27 December 2008 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link

It *really* helps that this record appears to have actual balls (bass?) for once mind you. Suddenly, finally they actually feel not so desperately indie and that's a great thing.

fandango, Saturday, 27 December 2008 16:52 (fifteen years ago) link

fuckit! ignore last post! listening again en kitchen (streaming off laptop through lovely punchy mono radio, clears up the vocal mix a bit) and well, okay tracks 1-4 are ringing out clear as a bell :X more spins required deffo.

(maybe there's some canned weirdness later on? I don't recall right now and I need to go throw the beetroot in the pan anyway...)

fandango, Saturday, 27 December 2008 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link

safraz
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:28 pm

that's a gay study and gives lame hipsters something else to be pretentious about


rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Saturday, 27 December 2008 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link

nah, b. summertime clothes is the best song on the album, hands down.

its dance-able, and the lyrics are amazingggggggggggggggggggggg

Merriweather Post Pavillion

nominal, Saturday, 27 December 2008 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link

strawberry jam is totes best animal collection album imo

o thats rich "ice cr?m"

ilxor, Sunday, 28 December 2008 06:00 (fifteen years ago) link

i rather like this album and I don't like anything else by them very much except for the vashti bunyan album and I only like that because of her.

akm, Sunday, 28 December 2008 06:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I dunno, compare with MBV, Slowdive etc... and I still wonder really, is it just the cool sounds they make that trumps all or are they really just a bit like, bogus?

I think that, if you're going to compare them with bands like that, a better band to compare Animal Collective with would be early Mercury Rev. There are obviously major differences in their sounds but they have a lot in common w/ the psychedelia background and the attitude.

Cunga, Sunday, 28 December 2008 07:01 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, I've thought of and compared them to Mercury rev in the past. I guess I always felt like the approach to lyrics with this band was always just a bit too distant and considered to really actually feel I dunno, honest, genuine "true" those kind of corny qualities ILM likes to stamp on with a boot. Whatever they were doing it just didn't work for me. All the while I could tell they had more creativity invested in it than some other charlatans...

Funny thing is it seems like the more universal the sentiments they sing about lately (here, Person Pitch) the better this weird angle works (Tim describes really well on his round-up thread atm).

fandango, Sunday, 28 December 2008 13:13 (fifteen years ago) link

This album is also absolutely brilliant btw.

lol @ people raging against the "fucking font choices" and the title upthread :D geeez

fandango, Sunday, 28 December 2008 13:17 (fifteen years ago) link

I agree and think that one of the things that makes Animal Collective intriguing is that they know how to amplify their own mystique. They do for psychedelic loopiness what Radiohead does for alienation, which may explain why both bands seem to attract a similar type of fan, if not similar people.

The other thing about AC is that, though their influences seem vast, they are very much a part of the general pop culture trend which is looking to late 60s hippie-ism/mysticism with a more romantic eye than the previous generations have.

Mercury Rev did something similar with crazed psychedelia early in their career but Mercury Rev's post-Baker albums revealed MR to be a bit smartass and self-conscious about their surrealism. I remember reading that "Snowflake Midnight," as a title, is a meant to be self-parody. AC has yet to let up on the distancing effects and take the mask off, which is one of the reasons their fans seem to be endlessly fascinated by them. They also benefit greatly, as I alluded to earlier, from the fact that today's college students are too young to remember much original psychedelia - or even the comeback the genre made in the late 80s and early 1990s. Everything that was old is new again, and a band like AC have done a great job repackaging the content.

Cunga, Sunday, 28 December 2008 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, and can I get a link to the round-up thread? Is that the tracks and albums nominations thread?

Cunga, Sunday, 28 December 2008 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I meant this - 2007 that was (by Tim)

:)

fandango, Sunday, 28 December 2008 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link

this is pretty awesome. Thought i was past having to listen to these chufters after Strawb. jam, but the Pitchfork shame continues.

what U cry 4 (jim), Sunday, 28 December 2008 23:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Pitchfork is hilarious. and ridiculous. I don't really trust their reviews for, well, anything. AllMusic is great though.

nominal, Monday, 29 December 2008 02:13 (fifteen years ago) link

what a beautiful record. totally worth all the rickrolling and viral shenanigans. the closest analog i hear (besides 'tusk' as mentioned upthread) is later boredoms, especially the euphoric looping of vcn. i have no idea how they make these sounds. i'm curious how sample-based it is, whether along the lines of 'person pitch' or what

kamerad, Monday, 29 December 2008 03:06 (fifteen years ago) link

This album is pretty self-centered and misoginyst: agree/dissagree

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Monday, 29 December 2008 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link

its almost racist in its opaque self regard

ice cr?m, Monday, 29 December 2008 14:43 (fifteen years ago) link

the only content i've been able to decipher is panda talking about his kids having shoes and stuff. that seems nice?

schlump, Monday, 29 December 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link

his kids are named adolf hitler bear and aryan justice bear, so no, its not nice

eman cipation s1ocklamation (max), Monday, 29 December 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link

i was also a little concerned about its pavilion-centric iconography

choom gangsta (deej), Monday, 29 December 2008 19:42 (fifteen years ago) link

upon repeated listening, i'm pretty sure "also frightened" is the best track on this.

Creeztophair, Monday, 29 December 2008 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link

There are some great songs on here, esp. Brothersport, but seriously did they have to make every single song sound like it was recorded underwater? I mean, I'm fine with hella reverb, but jeez switch it up sometimes

also, I do not get anyone's hate for Strawberry Jam

HPSCHD, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 04:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I do not hate Strawberry Jam. It's just that every once in a while one of those songs will come up on my ipod, and I pretty much always have to make it go away. This is not hate.

served by boot-face (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 04:54 (fifteen years ago) link

also, I do not get anyone's hate for Strawberry Jam

innit. you'd think it was a forty minute record consisting solely of symbol sounds that some people found a little too tinny. such a catchy, lively record

schlump, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 05:21 (fifteen years ago) link

most people dont like it because it's animal collective doing "indie rock"

"made smashable" (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 06:12 (fifteen years ago) link

most people that dont like it dont like it because

"made smashable" (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 06:13 (fifteen years ago) link

i lurv strawberry jam.

Creeztophair, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 06:50 (fifteen years ago) link

interesting. I wonder what exactly about the sound of SJ hits people's INDIE button that's so diff. from this album (or Feels for that matter)

HPSCHD, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 06:53 (fifteen years ago) link

this is growing on me...i really love the middle of the first track

"made smashable" (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 06:58 (fifteen years ago) link

ya this is great and will prolly be their biggest album, but they were so much better when you couldn't understand the fuck they were saying.

Cosmo Vitelli, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 07:47 (fifteen years ago) link

^

Plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 11:24 (fifteen years ago) link

The lyrics are much tougher to decipher on this one than on Strawberry Jam, at least on the Avey Tare songs.

Hatch, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 13:26 (fifteen years ago) link

on first listen, i don't like the hand claps on 'my girls'

computer make noise, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link

keep liveblogging

caek, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link

wishing you a happy liveblogging new year's eve eve.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link

i wish brothersport extended the arpeggiated middle bit & add amazing 4/4 kick. Even though it is a grebt track altogether, extended raverave would be awesome.

siskin/skulls, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link

^ siskin, there are a couple of songs where they could've extended A LOT. The "when the sun goes down, we'll go out again" in Summetime Clothes should've been repeated again. The big blast in the first track should've surfaced again.

there is a lot to learn from this time around, the only thing better will be their next album.

I think Bluish should've been re-remixed, it's soft and everything, but it just...eh, gets too soft.

nominal, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 02:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Anyone notice the gaps on the leaked album? At the end of each song? I fixed them in audacity now. I'll re-up for anyone who wants a seamless listen.

nominal, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 02:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I think Bluish should've been re-remixed, it's soft and everything, but it just...eh, gets too soft.

nuh uh. it has that great piano too.
the next lp's the kind of 'visual album' they're making.
i love the live sound of the record, undulating synths bouncing off the walls.

schlump, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 03:46 (fifteen years ago) link

"there is a lot to learn from this time around, the only thing better will be their next album."

"the next lp's the kind of 'visual album' they're making."

i can't say for sure and i hope i'm wrong, but i don't think they are ever going to make a better record than this. i have never gotten into their old stuff but every album since sung tongs has been better than the last (not counting strawberry jam and yes counting person pitch). it's more a feeling than anything else, but i anticipated the album so much for so long and now that i'm listening to it and it actually is the most wonderful fucking thing ever... it feels really nice and conclusive.

samosa gibreel, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link

lol @ google auto-suggest:
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x18/gr8080/fdfsdfsdfsdfsd.jpg

♪㋡♫㋡ (gr8080), Thursday, 1 January 2009 03:28 (fifteen years ago) link

:D

i'm torn on this still. there's parts that i really love ("in the flowers", "brothersport"), but then there's the six minute snoozefest "daily routine" right in the middle. i still dont think what i have is great quality, so im gonna wait for the vinyl

k3vin k., Friday, 2 January 2009 08:15 (fifteen years ago) link

they really fucked up summer time clothes

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 January 2009 08:15 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah that and "DR" kinda kill the momentum the first four songs had going. it starts out with four very solid tracks with pretty sublime moments imo, but then tracks 5 and 6 kind of kill it. i still really like "brothersport", but i prefer the live version soso much more. for some reason, the production's the cleanest on "BS"; it's super spacious when the rest of the album is much more cluttered (again, could be the low-qual rip i've got), and i just don't think it works as well. the live version i've got captured the energy and enthusiasm of the song so much better i think

k3vin k., Friday, 2 January 2009 08:20 (fifteen years ago) link

you're all smoking crack too close to the frame

Cosmo Vitelli, Friday, 2 January 2009 08:50 (fifteen years ago) link

daily routine is the weakest track on the album indeed, but "bluish" is awesome, with it's MBV melody style

Zeno, Friday, 2 January 2009 11:47 (fifteen years ago) link

it's just that tracks 5-8 are a bit less poppy, but not necessary weaker

Zeno, Friday, 2 January 2009 11:51 (fifteen years ago) link

must admit they be growin' on me. however, daily routine is neither weak nor the weakest song on the album! that would be either "lion in a coma" or "no more runnin," and even as i type this i'm realizing that i love those songs, too! can we all just agree that this is the greatest album of all time already?

samosa gibreel, Friday, 2 January 2009 14:24 (fifteen years ago) link

xposts i was referrring to "bluish" not "summertime clothes"

k3vin k., Friday, 2 January 2009 17:42 (fifteen years ago) link

I hate this album so much.

Turangalila, Friday, 2 January 2009 17:54 (fifteen years ago) link

why?

I still like this, but I might want to wait until the CD actually comes out to listen again. I wouldn't say there are diminishing returns... but now the inital shock has worn off. I am occasionally wondering if it's actually that good after all. It definitely skirts very close to some awfully hippy-drippy zone but (I think) mostly pulls off being GOOD hippy music.

It might be that good, next time or another, but I do also find it drops off, or my attention starts to wander somewhere around the last third of the album.

That's still a good run though! and I'm still interested to finish the record (even if I might skip some of this bit).

Which is pretty much how I tend to play "Loveless", this has a similar (prematurely) exhausting feel to it for me, even if it's superficially perhaps, a little more consciously varied. So this isn't a large complaint by any means.

I also think Daily Routine -needs- to be there, for pacing. I mean otherwise are we talking about a 1-2-3-4-5 punch opening?? And don't understand how Summertime Clothes kills any momentum when it's the most uptempo track in that whole sequence? I mean, you can not like it, but that's a different thing really.

"Lion In a Coma" is a bit... iffy. I guess it's the token old-style Animal Collective type song for people who like this record but might not be that enamoured with their previous stuff ?

(esp. Strawberry Jam, which I've reinvestigated, appreciate a bit better now, but am not hugely moved by)

fandango, Friday, 2 January 2009 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I loved their EP with Vashti Bunyan.
This album just seems to emphasize everything I’ve never liked about them, e.g., that tacked-on, cartoonish posturing which they now seem too comfortable with. Most of the melodies are desperately saccharine---like jingles, even. And there’s no real sense of tension or weirdness to balance it all. The overwrought production only makes it worse.

Turangalila, Friday, 2 January 2009 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

i actually listened to this irl and yow this band is just unbearably precious - and a big lolwtf to all the animal collectors repping their pop tunesmithiness

❤¯\㋡/¯❤ (ice cr?m), Friday, 2 January 2009 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link

wht were you thinking?! wd never listen to this irl

cozwn, Friday, 2 January 2009 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 2 January 2009 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link

"my girls" is still dope imo-- the rest is aight

♪㋡♫㋡ (gr8080), Friday, 2 January 2009 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link

but dont take my word for it-- http://link-protector.com/673613/

♪㋡♫㋡ (gr8080), Friday, 2 January 2009 21:52 (fifteen years ago) link

it saddens me, but i'm not all that into this. a few great songs, lots of others with really weak melodies and ideas. and seriously, every damn song is drowning. SJ was so consistent comparatively!

HPSCHD, Saturday, 3 January 2009 05:25 (fifteen years ago) link

This album just seems to emphasize everything I’ve never liked about them, e.g., that tacked-on, cartoonish posturing which they now seem too comfortable with. Most of the melodies are desperately saccharine---like jingles, even. And there’s no real sense of tension or weirdness to balance it all. The overwrought production only makes it worse.

^^^OTM

psychgawsple, Saturday, 3 January 2009 06:18 (fifteen years ago) link

xp whiney would like this album

k3vin k., Saturday, 3 January 2009 07:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I loved their EP with Vashti Bunyan.
This album just seems to emphasize everything I’ve never liked about them, e.g., that tacked-on, cartoonish posturing which they now seem too comfortable with. Most of the melodies are desperately saccharine---like jingles, even. And there’s no real sense of tension or weirdness to balance it all. The overwrought production only makes it worse.

― Turangalila

xpost Turangalila, so from what I gather you've never really liked them (except for one e.p.) and still don't like them now?

I don't get it, I've not been too fond of them for a lot of the same reasons (and their supposed weirdness HAS always sounded like posturing to me, maybe not 'cartoonish' but still...) if anything I feel like they've dialled back some on the preciousness/affected qualities here for the better. I mean, couldn't you say all the same things about the Panda Bear record?

I'm never quite sure about this line of argument that anything genuinely happy sounding and emotionally uncomplicated and open about it in music has to be "balanced" by some darkness/tension/weirdness. I doubt there's anyone that doesn't have at least ONE record they love that makes a mockery of this.

and all the people complaining about the "underwater"-ness just sound like people hearing MBV for the first time and asking "is this the right speed??" a little.

anyway, I'm mostly enjoying this so don't really want my buzz harshing just yet lol, or to become a cheerleader for it just yet (i'm probably in the 'new fan' category here)

and about listening to this "irl" yeah, cheap lols & and a good zing but have you heard how popular MGMT are? This doesn't sound any more embarrassing to me than that, maybe if AC work their nipples a bit they too can be in the charts :P

fandango, Saturday, 3 January 2009 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link

(sorry didn't mean to requote the whole post there..)

fandango, Saturday, 3 January 2009 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link

this line of argument
Heh. Dude, you make it seem like favoring particular musical signifiers is somehow bigoted. Or that I'm implying that certain musical signifiers are inherently wrong.

I felt nauseous and uneasy after listening to this. Personally, I look for chiaroscuros in music. To me, this is mostly a grotesque blot of pastels. Or like the musical equivalent of Nutrasweet.

Turangalila, Saturday, 3 January 2009 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link

there is a lyrical reference to that obv
"saccharine sheen"
u almost got to wonder how the language of these comments are planted, though always as if the band somehow does not seem to be aware of what it has wrought...

noizez duk, Saturday, 3 January 2009 15:56 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost - sorry, I don't mean to. I just suspect there are whole swathes of music that could be dismissed with a very similar sounding argument (I'm probably thinking of your, at least I think it was.. hating of that one bjork record that Mel W hates too, which I don't agree with at all). You're right about this being pastel-ly though. For me it's more of a gorgeous pulsating jellyfish like blob of pastels though. I don't find it sonically ugly at all. Or artificial sounding (for the first time really w/r/t this band!).

again though, on first impressions I'm starting to think the bottom of this record is hit very quick. I felt the same way about the Panda Bear thing really, but that seemed deliberately surface-ish at least in construction. A few bass hits might not actually signify much depth here after all....

fandango, Saturday, 3 January 2009 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link

this thread used to be so much fun :(

♪㋡♫㋡ (gr8080), Saturday, 3 January 2009 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link

it's the new BOC (again)...

mad hype & hijinks until the leak actually arrives

http://www.mynewplace.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/tumbleweed.jpg

fandango, Saturday, 3 January 2009 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link

or I'm just draining the fun :/ soz

fandango, Saturday, 3 January 2009 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Still haven't heard the album in full but I expect I will be quite happy if it's all "superficial" and saccharine.

Superficial in scare quotes because I'm wary of surface/depth metaphors for music.

Tim F, Sunday, 4 January 2009 02:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Food metaphors also annoy me. Unless they're taken to more specific and less value-laden extremes. i.e. I dislike talking about music in terms of fast foods, fine wines, artificial sweeteners etc. but I'm totally cool with people saying "this song sounds like a snickers bar whereas that song sounds like a cherry ripe."

(To my mind artificial sweetener comparisons never quite signify what they're intended to signify, because I never find nutrasweet or other artificial sweeteners terribly sweet. Milk chocolate vs dark chocolate (with milk chocolate as the superficial option) makes a lot more sense I suppose, but I actually prefer milk chocolate. Maybe it's just that I'm a sweet tooth both when it comes to food and when it comes to music)

Tim F, Sunday, 4 January 2009 02:44 (fifteen years ago) link

First pat so otm. What I hate about the food comparison is that fast foods etc are scientifically proven to be bad for people whereas music can never be proven thus.

This album is probably giving me bigger buzzes than anything I can think of in oh...fuck knows how long. It's like Underworld and the Beach Boys in an elevator in a blender on drugs on acid.

Local Garda, Sunday, 4 January 2009 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link

*first par

Local Garda, Sunday, 4 January 2009 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I like this and all, but it seems a little straight forward somehow? Their previous work had a slightly looser feel which i liked but these songs don't really seem to fly off in too many different directions, despite all the nice weird noises

Number None, Sunday, 4 January 2009 03:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I never find nutrasweet or other artificial sweeteners terribly sweet
Right. They're a sort of toxic, quasi-sweet that tends to make people sick.

Turangalila, Sunday, 4 January 2009 03:35 (fifteen years ago) link

No music has ever made me sick I must say. If your doctor has warned you off listening to this album Salvador I'd encourage you to follow his or her advice!

I'm assuming this album is relentlessly cheerful in the same way as Since I Left You, which also has its fair share of lovers and haters.

"It's like Underworld and the Beach Boys in an elevator in a blender on drugs on acid."

Woah.

Tim F, Sunday, 4 January 2009 03:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I think it was Tobias who first suggested the Underworld comparison. It's certainly nowhere near as dark or as conventionally UK prog/techno as Underworld but some of the use of vocals in that flailing almost instrumental way reminds me a lot of them. I keep thinking of terms like "indie-dance" etc as lazy impulsive reactions to this album, even in the sense that I want to compare it to past definitions of such terms, but the truth is this deserves to be considered as a good psychedelic record in its own right, free from the kind of cheap genre mashing terms that are so prevalent...

Local Garda, Sunday, 4 January 2009 03:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Have you heard the Gang Gang Dance album Ronan? I think you would like it.

Tim F, Sunday, 4 January 2009 08:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I pretty much am never sure how much I like whatever AC affiliated release for about 3 months, then I end up either loving it and overlistening to it or never listening to it again, and again, I'm not sure with this. I ended up loving (most of) Strawberry Jam but I can't say I don't have massive reservations about some of it. But then, when they're good ('Chores', 'My Girls', 'Brothersport', 'Prospect Hummer', 'The Purple Bottle'), they're totally beyond wow.

Panda Bear >>> Avey Tare lyrically though. In a brilliant way.

Mister Craig, Sunday, 4 January 2009 12:21 (fifteen years ago) link

this reminds me a little of disco inferno, around the "second language" e.p. "lion in a coma" = "the atheist's burden" with rubber balls bouncing on the bass

kamerad, Sunday, 4 January 2009 20:24 (fifteen years ago) link

So, I posted a tell-all all blog about this rickrolling escapade.

animal cololctive: what happened?

roxymuzak, Monday, 5 January 2009 08:58 (fifteen years ago) link

hahaha

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Monday, 5 January 2009 09:05 (fifteen years ago) link

i'd like to think it's worth it just for the laurence bell pic

roxymuzak, Monday, 5 January 2009 09:17 (fifteen years ago) link

web sheriff email is pretty priceless

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Monday, 5 January 2009 09:18 (fifteen years ago) link

woohoo!

choom gangsta (deej), Monday, 5 January 2009 09:20 (fifteen years ago) link

o michael chornomaz

choom gangsta (deej), Monday, 5 January 2009 09:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Music can be provable to be actually bad for you in the same way as food can.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 5 January 2009 09:24 (fifteen years ago) link

laurence bell could be played by a healthy john goodman

choom gangsta (deej), Monday, 5 January 2009 09:26 (fifteen years ago) link

denzel as the web sheriff

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Monday, 5 January 2009 09:28 (fifteen years ago) link

also lol @ "forcing me to behave more and more like the Joker as portrayed by Heath Ledger in 2008's critically acclaimed "The Dark Knight.""

choom gangsta (deej), Monday, 5 January 2009 09:29 (fifteen years ago) link

matthew lillard as michael chornomaz

roxymuzak, Monday, 5 January 2009 09:29 (fifteen years ago) link

roxy: game set match

negotiable, Monday, 5 January 2009 09:35 (fifteen years ago) link

had to reup cause i forgot this http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/primrosehill/messofaschlong.jpg

roxymuzak, Monday, 5 January 2009 09:42 (fifteen years ago) link

mess of a schlong sounds like that dude recently posted on nsfws

choom gangsta (deej), Monday, 5 January 2009 09:46 (fifteen years ago) link

lol @ taylor saporito's amazon list of "summer chillout albums" tho

http://www.amazon.com/Summer-Chill-Out-Albums/lm/R1MZ2QDP6ZBWL7/ref=cm_lm_byauthor_title_full

roxymuzak, Monday, 5 January 2009 10:50 (fifteen years ago) link

pet sounds
blonde on blonde
sgt pepper
yankee hotel foxtrot
yoshimi...

it's clearly the list that had to be made

roxymuzak, Monday, 5 January 2009 10:52 (fifteen years ago) link

omg

1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
***** great bow tie, still a little big at it's smallest, February 7, 2007
There is sincerely nothing more awesome than having a bow tie except for learning how to tie a bow tie.

I purchased this psychedelic treat as soon as I saw it online. I saw an untied bow tie around the neck of Wayne from the Flaming Lips last september in concert, and I have been lusting after one ever since. I have quite the impressive collection of psychedelic neck ties, and this was the perfect bow tie to add to my repertoire.

I was very pleased to see that this bow tie was adjustable. I am a very small man with a small neck, so this is great. I didn't even think of different sizes... it isn't a problem with my neck ties, but I didn't have any concept of how a bow tie was tied.

But even after it's adjusted as small as it can go, It's still a little big for my neck. I have found different methods of compensation in the tying process so I can tie it tightly enough for my uses, I still have the feeling that it's supposed to be a lot tighter on my neck. I wouldn't wear this to a fancy, formal event due to this, but most people I know wouldn't be able to tell the difference. And also I'm stressing that I am a very thin man.

The fabric is awesome for the price. While it doesn't exactly glimmer or shine like some of my more overtly psychedelic neck ties, it still compliments my eccentric wardrobe beautifully.

I need to make a comment for those who have never tied a bow tie before. It's not for the faint hearted. I literally slaved and cursed both at my computer and in front of the mirror for 3 hours while I tried to figure out how to tie the stupid thing. I must have looked at 40 different online instructions and youtube videos combined. But I eventually figured it out. And let me tell you. I have never felt a bigger feeling of accomplishment.

A great bow tie especially for the price. If you are thinking about it, do it. Comment | Permalink

roxymuzak, Monday, 5 January 2009 10:53 (fifteen years ago) link

wow. every line a gem.

negotiable, Monday, 5 January 2009 12:04 (fifteen years ago) link

trying to reconcile the two sides of taylor saporito creates a nightmare in your head

negotiable, Monday, 5 January 2009 12:05 (fifteen years ago) link

its a bad scene alright

roxymuzak, Monday, 5 January 2009 12:05 (fifteen years ago) link

i emailed taylor a link to the blog this morning. i hope he enjoys his mention.

roxymuzak, Monday, 5 January 2009 12:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Michael Chornomaz is the crucial detail that makes this total lolz

Plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 5 January 2009 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Michael Chornololz more like!

Plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 5 January 2009 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Hmm... 9.6 at pfork, can't say I'm surprised- even though I haven't got around to listening to it yet...

ColinO, Monday, 5 January 2009 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link

That's a higher rating (by 0.4) than anything received last year!

Are we looking at the Pfork #1 album of 2009, so soon?

ilxor, Monday, 5 January 2009 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link

now that this is done we should focus on this Dan Deacon record which is better i ain't bullshittin'

merriweather post ironic (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 5 January 2009 19:45 (fifteen years ago) link

only if you twitter it.

carne asada, Monday, 5 January 2009 19:53 (fifteen years ago) link

in about 30 minutes, expect one.

merriweather post ironic (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 5 January 2009 19:54 (fifteen years ago) link

now that this is done we should focus on this Dan Deacon record which is better i ain't bullshittin'

Fixed!

ilxor, Monday, 5 January 2009 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link

i haven't kept up with this thread after the beginning, but i just wanted to say that i'm afraid to download this album even from like iTunes

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 5 January 2009 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link

climate of fear

roxymuzak, Monday, 5 January 2009 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link

haha roxy terroristed you

8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Monday, 5 January 2009 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link

could 2009 not have waited more than 5 days before landing me with the album which is going to annoy me more than any other this year by indie fuxors babbling on and on and endlessly on about it, culminating in its inevitable top placing in every publication's end-of-year list (jesus we've only just got rid of those fuckers!) despite it being completely unlistenable, directionless, pointless bullshit like everything else animal collective have done

i guess not!!

lex pretend, Monday, 5 January 2009 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link

If lex was ever gonna like an animal collective album, this was probably gonna be the one. Also, it is pretty good.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 5 January 2009 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link

no

lex pretend, Monday, 5 January 2009 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i'm actually interested in this because of its reputed poppiness, despite never having heard more than a couple of animal collective songs in the past

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 5 January 2009 21:22 (fifteen years ago) link

no, yeah, I did get that you don't like it, its just that it has a fairly similar sound palette to lots of things you have liked on this in the past, guess its too indie or whatever.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 5 January 2009 21:23 (fifteen years ago) link

going to wait for the vinyl to decide whether i love it or just like it. like i said before, great bits, but it bores me around the middlw

k3vin k., Monday, 5 January 2009 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link

i just cant take a band called animal collective seriously -- its like calling a band zoobilee zoo

choom gangsta (deej), Monday, 5 January 2009 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I really wish I could place a full page ad in the New York Times that says, "This album is good and all but come the fuck on."

merriweather post ironic (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 5 January 2009 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link

this shit is for children grow up people are you bumping muppets soundtracks now nb. muppets are great obv

choom gangsta (deej), Monday, 5 January 2009 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link

lex where did you hear this album? at durr when you went last week???

Local Garda, Monday, 5 January 2009 21:48 (fifteen years ago) link

whiney i feel like the ny times is not the proper publication to reach the audience you seek

8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Monday, 5 January 2009 21:48 (fifteen years ago) link

full page AA ad in p4k

k3vin k., Monday, 5 January 2009 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link

i heard miss kittin and fischerspooner 'emerge' at durrr, ronan, and i reminisced happily about electroclash, and then i left early b/c it turned into justicey type shit :)

lex pretend, Monday, 5 January 2009 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link

xp with Panda Bear's face over the model

merriweather post ironic (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 5 January 2009 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link

going to durr for the electroclash=as believable as reading playboy for the articles

Local Garda, Monday, 5 January 2009 21:52 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean I feel like I can't be like "hey, this record's pretty good" without sounding like one of those dudes rocking back and forth waiting for the 320 FLAC rip because the 160 is bullshit even though they played every day for two weeks.

merriweather post ironic (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 5 January 2009 21:52 (fifteen years ago) link

i went to durrr b/c people i liked were there and it had been a while since i'd been on that scene. the 'lectroclash was a bonus.

lex pretend, Monday, 5 January 2009 21:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Lex I'm surprised you can even talk with your knee so far in your mouth.

fandango, Monday, 5 January 2009 21:55 (fifteen years ago) link

ah lex you know I'm just joking...I'm sure I'd enjoy the joyous indie atmosphere at durrr too

Local Garda, Monday, 5 January 2009 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link

better'n the bloodless indie atmosphere of animal collection!!

lex pretend, Monday, 5 January 2009 21:58 (fifteen years ago) link

captain save a middling-ciara-single lets have an equal opportunity for 'its really not that good' mmkay

choom gangsta (deej), Monday, 5 January 2009 22:01 (fifteen years ago) link

i mean i agree w/ you but come on now

choom gangsta (deej), Monday, 5 January 2009 22:01 (fifteen years ago) link

As a childless, unmarried, overworked hack, slave to the whims of society, I can't help but feel depressed by "My Girls", that beautiful, beautiful song.

It's like listening to a hottie sing about how "looks ain't everything".

Owen Pallett, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 01:20 (fifteen years ago) link

He Poos Clouds >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this

Turangalila, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 03:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Owen, we know Turangalila is your evil narcissist alter ego.

ecuador_with_a_c, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 04:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Nej nej, but he/she is on the payroll.

Owen Pallett, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 05:09 (fifteen years ago) link

But what I mean is, "My Girls" is my own personal "Jenny From The Block".

Owen Pallett, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 05:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Hahahaha.

Turangalila, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 05:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I like how Mark Richardson appears to have become Emeritus Professor of all things animal collective at Pitchfork.

Tim F, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 06:53 (fifteen years ago) link

i didnt think it was a bad review, but i dont think it would kill them to give an AC review to someone other than the biggest fanboy on earth

k3vin k., Tuesday, 6 January 2009 07:09 (fifteen years ago) link

They kinda remind me of Ned's reviews of his favourite bands on allmusic.

Tim F, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 07:39 (fifteen years ago) link

MPP review: This album, which finds Animal Collective completely owning their unique sound, feels like the crucial next step in that conversation.

SJ review: Here, more than on any record yet, they own that sound completely.

not to be a dick, just noticed this. i haven't heard MPP yet but does it sound like SJ? i thought maybe it didn't.

negotiable, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 07:41 (fifteen years ago) link

no

i'm getting the vinyl tomorrow, and im hoping ill like this more than i already do. the good parts are just so great; i want the rest to make it worth it

k3vin k., Tuesday, 6 January 2009 07:43 (fifteen years ago) link

blaming it on poor qual rip

k3vin k., Tuesday, 6 January 2009 07:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I might have said this upthread but I was horribly disappointed with SJ when it came out and further discouraged by the glowing reviews it got places that encouraged so many of the (I felt) shitty qualities that pissed me off about it. The one review I really got behind was the one in The Wire where the guy said something like 'At least they've never made the same record twice, right?' which has been basically the principal with which I've been anticipating this one, so whatever about this perfect culmination of their sound bit, Animal Collective do sound like they have way more ideas than any of their Pitchfork pals/indie contemporaries but their career so far has been about drifting in and out of focus even as they move on all the time. I mean, sure there are certain hallmarks of their sound, but their records have had a wildly varying sound to these ears.

Back in the heady days of the rick roll a number of comments were made about the Balearic-ey sound they'd gone with, I'm really confused if this was just part of the rick roll joke or if it was based on what had leaked at that stage, but seriously I thought that would basically give this record a free pass. There are a few things I would have liked, the knob on the vocals to have been turned down a little, maybe, more submersion in the overall song structures, in some songs the vocals sound like they blair out too much. But overall, this is a really good album, I know ILM feels the need to get challopsy about all this white boy indie, like ALL THE TIME. But srsly get over it. This record though, is a pretty good testament to the AC's need for a really good producer, Strawberry Jam might have been more interesting to me if it wasn't so sonically hideous, but it was. Maybe the reason I like this is because of the warm live-sounding synths. God, did I really not sleep tonight/this morning?

Plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 09:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Man, I don't know what I'm talking about.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 09:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Talking about AC is becoming exciting as the Federal Reserve president's speech about the new monetary policies

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:36 (fifteen years ago) link

the smug dismissive assholes are pretty funny though

kamerad, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 16:09 (fifteen years ago) link

ts: talking about ac vs talking about talking about ac

rent, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link

let me just tell you where I'm at with this.

I haven't liked an indie record this much in a couple of years, or any record as much as this in a few months. Hence I haven't read many threads about indie records.

What taints this joyous occasion (about a 0.1% taint, enough to make me stop what I was doing and write this post with two feet on the table) is reading the tedious back and forth that surrounds indie records. honestly it's at times (not all the time) like reading football supporters argue about who's going to win the league on BBC Sports blogs. Albeit with better spelling.

Local Garda, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link

about a 0.1% taint

merriweather post ironic (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link

a taintlet

merriweather post ironic (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link

taintey t. taintgarten

uncannydan, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 18:43 (fifteen years ago) link

if you take the 0.4 pitchfork gave the black rebel motorcycle club today, and add that to the 9.6 they gave mpp yesterday, you get a perfect 10. maybe they should trade players for the 2010 album season

kamerad, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link

not that anyone here reads pitchfork

kamerad, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 18:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I still don't know how much I like this record yet. It seems to be pushing more towards liking early 10cc though.

Mister Craig, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 18:50 (fifteen years ago) link

i still say disco inferno

kamerad, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link

di is not a bad reference point; slightly different vocal approach and world outlook though, eh?

uptown churl, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:10 (fifteen years ago) link

musical similarities is all i'm saying. hazy washes of song. but di don't really yelp and such, for sure

kamerad, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Hey I like this album. It seems like something you could listen to while grilling out in the summertime.

Muomas (vader is hanging onto the nose of the ship like tj-hooker (nickalicious), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Only if your backyard was Tron.

Muomas (vader is hanging onto the nose of the ship like tj-hooker (nickalicious), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/primrosehill/messofaschlong.jpg

Just received a (second) email from ^Taylor Saporito in re: my most recent blog.

Here it is in full, so that you, too, can marvel along with me that it is possible for one boy to be so completely lacking in self-awareness:

Congratulations. You have successfully embarrassed me and proved your dominance on the internet.

A bit of a back story on the string of e-mails you got. The link was posted on the collected animals board, somebody found your e-mail address, and asked the board to spam you. Immature, yes. Probably not necessary. In a course of like 30 seconds I decided to contribute one to the cause.

Apologies for any offense I caused you by my e-mail, and for not finding your rick roll hilarious. If it wasn't the first time I'd seen a rick roll I may have laughed a little bit. I remember, it was sort of funny the first time.

I understand why you would do some things... filter comments on your blog... leave the link up when it's obvious the majority of the people who see it don't think it's funny... all of those are little things you can do to ensure that you have enough material for a substantial blog post. And in all honesty, I find the post just about as necessary as you find my amazon lists.

I'm not sending you this e-mail in an effort to stop you from blogging or discussing this matter on the internet. If you must get your fulfillment there, fine... god knows we all have to have something. However, I find the fact that you used my real name both on your blog and in forum discussion unnecessary.

I'm sorry to hear that people called your personal number in response to this. That took a stupid internet argument to a personal level it shouldn't go to. But I didn't take your joke personally, I just thought it wasn't funny. Bringing my name into it is completely unnecessary, and I ask that you remove it in all places that you can.

NECESSARY
NECESSARY
NECESSARY

Most smug apology ever.

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 06:41 (fifteen years ago) link

My reponse:

However, I find the fact that you used my real name both on your blog and in forum discussion unnecessary.

Well, I view the fact that you used sexist, violent, and abusive language in an email to a stranger in preeeetty much the same light, so maybe you can suck it up. ;)

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 06:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Roxy have heart, he's had a mess of a schlong ever since he got caught in that disastrous rick roll crash. People on strong pain meds sometimes can't help using sexist, violent and abusive language.

Tim F, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 06:47 (fifteen years ago) link

They kinda remind me of Ned's reviews of his favourite bands on allmusic.

Hooray oh wait.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 07:02 (fifteen years ago) link

d.i. go pop>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MPP

all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 07:05 (fifteen years ago) link

lolll @ taylor saporito

k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 January 2009 07:05 (fifteen years ago) link

loooooool @ taylor saporito taylor saporito taylor saporito taylor saporito

opinions4usic (deej), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 07:09 (fifteen years ago) link

let's get TAYLOR SAPORITO a 77 invite

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 07:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Amazon Lists by Taylor Saporito

k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 January 2009 07:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Qualifications: music obsessed, hip teen with a lot of time on his hands

opinions4usic (deej), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 07:21 (fifteen years ago) link

taylor saporito's band?

choke on my mess of a schlaporito (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 07:21 (fifteen years ago) link

ya that's him

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 07:22 (fifteen years ago) link

another one

choke on my mess of a schlaporito (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 07:22 (fifteen years ago) link

you can really hear the jack johnson influences in that first link

all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 07:23 (fifteen years ago) link

http://a547.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/107/m_d18c96226ecaf53c573ad2b714b233da.jpg
choke on my mess of a schlong!!

opinions4usic (deej), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 07:25 (fifteen years ago) link

That shot makes him look like the excommunicated member of Sunn0))) who smiled too much.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 07:54 (fifteen years ago) link

I've seldom encountered a band with more delusional, idiotic fans.

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 07:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Fine. If you think it's justified, then fine. If you have nothing better to do with your time than flaunt our e-mails on message boards, you obviously don't have a lot else going on. So go on and have your fun.

And for the record, I believe there is a big difference between the general, mindless shit-talking shit on the internet and making it personal. But I don't think I'll be able to make a convincing argument to somebody who obviously spends too much time living and conversing on the internet. It's obviously consuming a large amount of your life judging by how many posts you have in that thread alone. There's a good chance this pretty much is your life. I can't really expect you to be able to differentiate.

Sleep tight. Even if all you have is your online dignity and your post count. Sleep tight. Tomorrow, the day after that, the day after that. It's always going to be just the internet.

HEY TAYLOR, SLEEP TIGHT
EVEN IF ALL YOU HAVE IS YOUR BOWTIE REVIEWS AND PAGE-LONG EMAILS TO ME
SLEEP TIGHT

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 08:31 (fifteen years ago) link

"And for the record, I believe there is a big difference between the general, mindless shit-talking shit on the internet and making it personal" vs. "you low-life cock-gobbling bitch"

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 08:33 (fifteen years ago) link

his life obviously consumed by making such glorious music

all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 08:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Choke on my mess of RONG

Yehudi Menudo (NickB), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 09:04 (fifteen years ago) link

ahaha, i bet that band starts their sets with "choke on this mess of a song"

merriweather post very much in character pavillion (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 13:33 (fifteen years ago) link

tell him he's the real lowlife because "cock-gobbling" should be hyphenated.

merriweather post very much in character pavillion (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 13:35 (fifteen years ago) link

I totally missed all this when it went on, I only just saw Roxy's blog posts, so many lols.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 13:39 (fifteen years ago) link

The thing about threads like this is they hint at some sort of overwhelming stultifying critical consensus surrounding bands that no one in the UK gives a shit about. See also people getting pissy about Yankee Hotel Foxtrot back in the day.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 13:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm just disappointed this didn't turn into a thread about Michael Chornomaz

Plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link

its never too late

♪㋡♫㋡ (gr8080), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm pretty sure i've eaten the spicy sausage chornomaz

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 16:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Chornomaz on my Michael of a sausage

Yehudi Menudo (NickB), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 16:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Michael Chornomaz goes to college now.

He used to go to my highschool! But that was three years ago...

Hey!

nominal, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Sta op draad en spreekt!

Vanwege Merriweather Post Pavilion. Heeft iemand die al gehoord? 9.6 bij Hooivork (al is dat op zich niet zo'n verrassing.) "has been anticipated to an almost ridiculous degree" heb ik niks van gemerkt.

― OMC, Wednesday, January 7, 2009 4:22 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm

carne asada, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 22:00 (fifteen years ago) link

We should all call it Hooivork now.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 22:00 (fifteen years ago) link

To be clear, comparing Mark Richardson to Ned Raggett is a compliment to both.

Tim F, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 22:50 (fifteen years ago) link

aw

wilter, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 23:46 (fifteen years ago) link

^deftly disguised double backhanded compliment xp

choke on my mess of a schlaporito (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 23:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I have mixed feelings about this thread. can we start a rollingrickroll thread for hilarity from now on and section hilarity there?

Local Garda, Thursday, 8 January 2009 01:00 (fifteen years ago) link

just revive a rick astley thread

s1ocki, Thursday, 8 January 2009 01:04 (fifteen years ago) link

there is a separate therad about the album, duh

roxymuzak, Thursday, 8 January 2009 01:32 (fifteen years ago) link

i got some mix that animal collective did for rough trade when i bought the album - does anyone want me to upload?

t_g, Thursday, 8 January 2009 19:45 (fifteen years ago) link

guy please do that sounds amazing can't wait!

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 8 January 2009 19:48 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=49K4OM7T

have just realised now it's unmixed

t_g, Thursday, 8 January 2009 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

You know how in awkward cringeworthy sitcoms there's sometimes a moment when someone makes a joke or does an impression and it's hysterically funny for everyone concerned, and it's funny when they do it a few more times, and then it carries on and on and on until it's just a couple of lame dudes doing it and everyone else stopped laughing ages ago? That's kind of where this thread has got to now.

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 January 2009 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I've got a feeling this might be like the Gear's Rooomate thread where people are still going "hey what about this, lol!" three years after it stopped being funny.

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 January 2009 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link

LOL ... he was wearing a trucker hat

opinions4usic (deej), Thursday, 8 January 2009 21:30 (fifteen years ago) link

I think a big part of my snarkiness in this thread is my self-consciousness and depression over the fact that I probably am incapable of liking ANY album or band as much as people are purporting to like Merriweather Post Pavillion.

I mean, my favorite band (Melvins, lol) is releasing some of the best records of their career and I can still wait for a promo to arrive [and let me say this as snarkless as possible) without getting all anxious waiting for a leak or even bothering to watch the YouTubes of the songs played live before the album is released. I'm too jaded I guess.

the curious case of fuck button (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 8 January 2009 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link

probably its own thread, tell it to your HOOS EMO BLOG BLLEEAAGH, etc

the curious case of fuck button (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 8 January 2009 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link

I think part of the fun of anticipating an album is knowing that there's a certain day that you can go and get it! I guess no one thinks this way anymore?

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Thursday, 8 January 2009 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, I miss that! I liked going to the MediaPlay at midnight in college to pick up albums I was anticipating for sure!

the curious case of fuck button (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 8 January 2009 21:49 (fifteen years ago) link

I still do it for bands i'm all fanboy about--lol driving to the fucking solomon pond mall at lunch to buy a Pinback CD.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Thursday, 8 January 2009 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I think part of the fun of anticipating an album is knowing that there's a certain day that you can go and get it! I guess no one thinks this way anymore?

I do, quite often. I am waiting until I get an official copy of this in my hands before listening to it all blissed out in front of the stereo. I did cave and listen to "My Girls" on MySpace though.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 8 January 2009 22:30 (fifteen years ago) link

I do really miss this, I remember my dad giving me the money to buy the strokes (lol) second album the day it came out and me going to every music shop in town to see where it was cheapest

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 9 January 2009 08:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Wait, how old are you, Plax?

Cunga, Friday, 9 January 2009 09:03 (fifteen years ago) link

21

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 9 January 2009 09:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Very Panda Bear-centric. (This is a good thing.)

M.V., Friday, 9 January 2009 11:10 (fifteen years ago) link

OK, basic question for animal collection fans: how do you tell them apart?

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Friday, 9 January 2009 12:06 (fifteen years ago) link

It's interesting that people are saying this is kind of Panda Bear's album even though he's only only got four out of the eleven tracks. I know this thanks to some internet research, i find them difficult to tell apart as well

Number None, Friday, 9 January 2009 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link

this album sucks except for my girls.

cutty, Friday, 9 January 2009 14:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Dude stick it out for Brothersport, it's worth it, although I have no idea why the f they made it the closing track. Probably because it would stick out like a sore thumb anywhere else on the album, so they tacked it on the end.

adamj, Friday, 9 January 2009 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Sore thumb of awesomeness.

adamj, Friday, 9 January 2009 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I think this has been tagged as a "Panda Bear" because it's a record primarily based on looped samples (re: Person Pitch). Although to be fair, I think Avey Tare does quite a bit of this in his band with that dude from Black Dice.

Andrew Sandwich, Friday, 9 January 2009 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Terrestrial Tones have some kickass stuff

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 9 January 2009 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link

But yeah, its a different type of loopy stuff and granted how similar most of it sounds to Eric Copeland's solo stuff, I'd say that it's more Copelandy

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 9 January 2009 16:21 (fifteen years ago) link

this album sucks except for my girls.

― cutty, Friday, 9 January 2009 14:50 (1 hour ago)

Wouldn't go that far, it's more like "My Girls + ten of her identical and yet somewhat less attractive sisters"

Owen Pallett, Friday, 9 January 2009 16:33 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd hit "Bluish" and "Summertime Clothes"

Snowballing, Friday, 9 January 2009 16:35 (fifteen years ago) link

part of the fun of anticipating an album is knowing that there's a certain day that you can go and get it! I guess no one thinks this way anymore?

― call all destroyer

Never done this (sad face). Not even for Daydream Nation.

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Friday, 9 January 2009 16:37 (fifteen years ago) link

NOT EVEN FOR DAYDREAM NATION!?

s1ocki, Friday, 9 January 2009 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link

my record store forgot to order my vinyl, the fuckers

choke on my mess of a schlaporito (k3vin k.), Friday, 9 January 2009 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link

my girls + brothersport are dope the rest is pretty boring

♪㋡♫㋡ (gr8080), Friday, 9 January 2009 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link

still think the middle of "in the flowers" is my favorite part. the live version of brothersport was way better than this album cut too imo

choke on my mess of a schlaporito (k3vin k.), Friday, 9 January 2009 18:11 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost Plax

I'm about your age, and likewise couldn't wait for Room on Fire. Still my favorite release of theirs.

A main complaint with Copeland and Terrestrial Tones is that it is all experimentation with no proper songs (i.e. melody).

While the complaint with Person Pitch was that the collage of samples felt flimsy without enough challenging experimentation underneath.

This album is a good compromise between the two.

Andrew Sandwich, Friday, 9 January 2009 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link

ppl biting so hard on My Girls and Brothersport, and I really like them, but I actually don't think I've listened to anything else on the album.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 9 January 2009 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, now I've only heard Dead Drunk, but it's pretty great and weirdly hooky.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 9 January 2009 18:43 (fifteen years ago) link

still think the middle of "in the flowers" is my favorite part. the live version of brothersport was way better than this album cut too imo

That middle section is a motherfucker, isn't? Your average indie/Brit pop band would've gone retro and employed some tired-ass wall of sound nicked from Beach Boys/Beatles/Spector. But AC builds it fomr noise, electronica, even some bass music. Gorgeous.

QuantumNoise, Friday, 9 January 2009 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link

"Bluish" is the best song here, it reminds me of Scritti Politti.

zeus, Friday, 9 January 2009 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link

i downloaded a link from the Prince thread a few days ago that was labelled Merriweather Post Pavilion. that pissed me off to know that i had downloaded some bullshit album instead of the killer Prince goodies i expected. this morning i decided to finally unzip the archive to take a listen after reading the comments on this thread. the zip turned out to be labelled as if it were the Animal Collective album but each track was Rick Astley. I have to say, i love it. Each track is exactly the same but somehow i feel like i'll enjoy listening to 12 Rickrolls in a row rather than this new AC album. Thanks internet jokester, you made my morning!

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 9 January 2009 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link

haha!

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 9 January 2009 20:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Roxy needs to add that as a testimonial on the sidebar of her blog.

xhuxk e. xheese (jaymc), Friday, 9 January 2009 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Is it just me or don't these overhyped albums usually come a lot earlier in a band's career?

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 9 January 2009 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Am I the only one who really likes Taste?

ecuador_with_a_c, Saturday, 10 January 2009 01:24 (fifteen years ago) link

really lacks taste maybe

roxymuzak, Saturday, 10 January 2009 01:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Is it just me or don't these overhyped albums usually come a lot earlier in a band's career?
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, January 9, 2009 8:55 PM

They often come after a band's been around for a few years and has cultivated a loyal audience that grows with each album--then the breakthrough, leading to this kind of fever pitch--see the Flaming Lips' Soft Bulletin. (I have not heard the album yet. Never been an AC fan. But I'm very curious.)

Matos W.K., Saturday, 10 January 2009 03:20 (fifteen years ago) link

You won't like it.

M.V., Saturday, 10 January 2009 04:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I like Taste a lot actually. Definitely has the most dub sound out of the bunch.

Andrew Sandwich, Saturday, 10 January 2009 05:45 (fifteen years ago) link

""Bluish" is the best song here, it reminds me of Scritti Politti."
one of the best yes.
i'd say MBV meets 10cc.

my friend argues that the album reminds him of The Beta Band.
after rejecting that opinion cause i hate Beta Band's latest records, i think he is right at least to some extent.

Zeno, Saturday, 10 January 2009 06:00 (fifteen years ago) link

singing in complex rhythms is often FAIL, especially on this record

❤ⓛⓞⓥⓔ❤ (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 10 January 2009 06:03 (fifteen years ago) link

I was skeptical after reading all the hype about Merriweather, but today I finished my review of it for The Stranger and I now believe Pitchfork actually underrated it. I know, I'm as shocked as anybody by this turn of events.

inhibitionist, Saturday, 10 January 2009 10:52 (fifteen years ago) link

The Stranger you say? do u have a link to ur review?

Also i fuk with My Girls except for the "whoooo" yelp

wilter, Saturday, 10 January 2009 11:01 (fifteen years ago) link

"whoooo" yelp

^^best part imo

gr8080, Saturday, 10 January 2009 12:53 (fifteen years ago) link

this album is fine but it's fairly forgettable, I'm perpetually flabbergasted by the hype.

akm, Saturday, 10 January 2009 14:25 (fifteen years ago) link

breath into this paper bag

Plaxico (I know, right?), Saturday, 10 January 2009 14:34 (fifteen years ago) link

grady is correct as always

cutty, Saturday, 10 January 2009 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link

I think it just reminds me of fix up look sharp by dizzee rascal

wilter, Saturday, 10 January 2009 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link

the woooh is amazing.

Tim F, Saturday, 10 January 2009 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Then he reread four or five pages of his poem to me. Verbal ostentation was the perverse principle that had guided his revisions: where he had formerly written "blue" he now had "azure," "cerulean," and even "bluish."

ice cr?m, Saturday, 10 January 2009 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I think it just reminds me of fix up look sharp by dizzee rascal

― wilter

which is surely a good thing!

Women can be captains too, you know? (jim), Saturday, 10 January 2009 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link

also the low-end on that song

gr8080, Saturday, 10 January 2009 20:29 (fifteen years ago) link

wilter: Review will be online/on the street Wed afternoon, Jan. 14.

inhibitionist, Saturday, 10 January 2009 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Just pre-ordered the album from Amazon.com!

$9.99, shipped (They have this Amazon Prime offer for free shipping, pm me and I'll help you out)

Can't wait 'till the 20th--well, I chose 2-day shipping...Can't wait 'till the 22nd!

nominal, Sunday, 11 January 2009 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link

DeepDiscount.com often ships early, apparently assuming the album will not reach you till on or after the release date. This assumption is sometimes too pessimistic.

M.V., Monday, 12 January 2009 03:47 (fifteen years ago) link

they were playing the promo in Easy Street Records this weekend.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 12 January 2009 04:13 (fifteen years ago) link

inhibitionist, did your review by chance mention how their singing is often times annoying (maybe in more clever words)?

❤ⓛⓞⓥⓔ❤ (CaptainLorax), Monday, 12 January 2009 05:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Then he reread four or five pages of his poem to me. Verbal ostentation was the perverse principle that had guided his revisions: where he had formerly written "blue" he now had "azure," "cerulean," and even "bluish."

hello i have spotted yr Borges allusion

St3ve Go1db3rg, Monday, 12 January 2009 06:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Just listened to it for the first time. Loved it. And this thread actually convinced me to buy the album, which I haven't done in yonks. My Girls is my jam. The cd cover doesn't move though. ;_;

a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 January 2009 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link

The cd cover doesn't move though. ;_;

OK waht! Does the vinyl sleeve move? This is important information for my buying decision!

britisher ringpulls (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 12 January 2009 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link

well, the cover doesn't move, it's an optical illusion (I haven't read the previous posts so I don't if that's what you're talking about, though...).

AleXTC, Monday, 12 January 2009 16:13 (fifteen years ago) link

ok, sorry, it doesn't appear to be moving when i look at the optical illusion.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 January 2009 16:16 (fifteen years ago) link

really ?

AleXTC, Monday, 12 January 2009 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link

it does on screen but not the physical object. as far as i can tell.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 January 2009 16:23 (fifteen years ago) link

I haven't seen the physical object yet.
but this picture must NOT be watched when hungover !

AleXTC, Monday, 12 January 2009 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link

eurgh this thing is making me sick. I hadnt noticed this before. So what - the trick works in the digi-world but not on the physical copies??

baaderonixx, Monday, 12 January 2009 16:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Does the image appear to move if you take the inlay out of the case? (I mean, apart from moving, errr, out of the case...)

britisher ringpulls (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 12 January 2009 16:30 (fifteen years ago) link

apparently, it doesn't move or not as much on the physical object as on screen.
weird.

AleXTC, Monday, 12 January 2009 16:32 (fifteen years ago) link

it's not a traditional cd case, it's just a card thing with a little folding thing inside with the cd and inlay and stuff inside. presumably done so to give the full effect of the illusion but it just doesn't work. still looks cool though.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 January 2009 17:00 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm going to use this .jpg as my desktop wallpaper and see how long I can stand it.

baaderonixx, Monday, 12 January 2009 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link

i've looked at the vinyl cover and it does move but not as much as that .jpg above.

Women can be captains too, you know? (jim), Monday, 12 January 2009 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link

you could use it as your FLAT's wallpaper (extra special touch : on the ceiling) !

AleXTC, Monday, 12 January 2009 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link

I guess it has something to do with the backlight of a screen compared to printed paper...

AleXTC, Monday, 12 January 2009 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe the SIZE too

ice cr?m, Monday, 12 January 2009 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link

well the size of the picture above is roughly the same as a CD, right ?

AleXTC, Monday, 12 January 2009 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link

that would DEPEND

ice cr?m, Monday, 12 January 2009 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link

oh great, I've just discovered that when you scroll the screen up and down while left clicking on the scrolling block thingy on the right of the screen frame (dunno what it's called) instead of scrolling with the thing on the mouse, the little "beans' in the picture move in circle !
(not sure my whole description is crystal clear...)

AleXTC, Monday, 12 January 2009 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link

"my friend argues that the album reminds him of The Beta Band.
after rejecting that opinion cause i hate Beta Band's latest records, i think he is right at least to some extent."

Good call! One of my first thoughts while listening the album was "what a pity that The Beta Band couldn't make it". I like Beta Band's later things though.

zeus, Monday, 12 January 2009 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link

everything sounds like the beta band, when will ppl realise

dugong.jpg (jabba hands), Monday, 12 January 2009 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I must have been listening to a different Beta Band. What are you people... British??!?

Hatch, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 01:46 (fifteen years ago) link

"I will now sell five copies of...oh great, you shitheads downloaded it already."

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 02:37 (fifteen years ago) link

inhibitionist, did your review by chance mention how their singing is often times annoying (maybe in more clever words)?

No, because on Merriweather, the two vocalists' voices are at their least annoying, imo. However, if you can't tolerate Beach Boys-like vocals, you may find this album tough going.

inhibitionist, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 07:56 (fifteen years ago) link

While the Beach Boys are certainly a reference point I'm always reminded much more of the Hollies when it comes to the harmonies and vocals of AC. The Hollies (circa 1968) walking in on Disco Inferno and early Mercury Rev making out on the couch before joining in on the fun themselves. There we go.

Cunga, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 08:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Welcome!

Oh, and an update on my own situation: I'm teaching English in Korea now. Still basically a bum.

Millsner, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 09:51 (fifteen years ago) link

OK, that was meant for 'Introduce Yourselves'. Now I look silly.

Millsner, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 09:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Hey I just got this album. It sounds quite good so far.

So what's been happening in this thread then??

the next grozart, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 10:21 (fifteen years ago) link

xxxposts

ok, so I've checked the vinyl cover. the optical illusion does not work on it. weird.

AleXTC, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 10:25 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't get this thing with the scrolling, etc.

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 10:31 (fifteen years ago) link

i think the cover's cobblers to be honest. saw that optical illusion months ago on an ILE thread.

the next grozart, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 10:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe this is another thread, but these ones actually worked IRL:

http://bigbeat-record.jp/pic-labo/faust3.JPG

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/131140.jpg

Yehudi Menudo (NickB), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 10:44 (fifteen years ago) link

bridget riley is a bit of a headfuck.

Women can be captains too, you know? (jim), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 10:47 (fifteen years ago) link

what is this one's supposed to do ? I don't see anything special.

AleXTC, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 10:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, and her stuff is actually very beautiful to look at too - most optical illusions are pretty gross. (x-post)

Yehudi Menudo (NickB), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 10:51 (fifteen years ago) link

ok, so I've checked the vinyl cover. the optical illusion does not work on it. weird.

Yes it does.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link

let's talk about that some more

roxymuzak, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link

I think I can see Rick Astley in it lol

Local Garda, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link

This thread! How did I miss it?

I saw AC last night and they were pretty uncategorisably great. My brain's still recovering nearly 24 hours later. But I've never really loved their recorded output (caveat: Feels onwards only) except Person Pitch which I thought and still think is awesome.

To these ears, the new one sounds like a jump on from Person Pitch, rather than a jump on from Strawberry Jam, but that suits me fine tbh.

This thread, though! Bloody crikey. People are amazing.

Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link

this band sucks balls tho tbh

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i agree which is why i am more comfortable discussing that craaazy album cover; just tryin to keep it positive for 09.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Ultimately this band strikes me as one of those fever-dream groups people want to will into greatness because it draws on so many things that folks can get invested heavily into. Conversely, that's a step I'm not interested in taking (though I've given into it before, no question -- and may yet again) and while I can't hate 'em, my lord can I ever not love them either.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 18:46 (fifteen years ago) link

That very point has been made repeatedly on the former Stylus message board, with varying degrees of effect.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I can imagine!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link

they would be better w/good singing and songs

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 18:50 (fifteen years ago) link

"this band strikes me as one of those fever-dream groups people want to will into greatness because it draws on so many things that folks can get invested heavily into"

would probably make more sense for someone like, Burial?

anyway Ned, this "step" does it involve actually listening to the record? ... because it's you I'll take it as read that you have and fine, if you're not into it that's cool.

otherwise, I'm glad people are still happy to churn out one line "I don't like it = it is not good" posts in the '09. Really bringing the board to life guys.

fandango, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 19:32 (fifteen years ago) link

anyway Ned, this "step" does it involve actually listening to the record? ... because it's you I'll take it as read that you have and fine, if you're not into it that's cool.

Whoever said this album was the progression from Person Pitch in the end was right because I have the same reaction to both albums -- "Oh -- that's it?" (Mentioning Burial is perfectly appropriate too because I feel the same exact way about his stuff!)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 19:41 (fifteen years ago) link

ned, you liked person pitch!

Cocktor Dassantino (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link

I would not call this a rave review:

Person Pitch is very much an end product of a variety of musical trends in whatever can be called indie rock in the early 21st century — big-sounding, absolutely dedicated to texture and sonic playfulness, and somehow aiming to make a lot of interesting ideas seem kinda flat.

I did give the album credit and highlighted what I felt were its best moments but I stand by my overall take.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link

I like animal collective

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link

haven't heard this album tho

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Whoever said this album was the progression from Person Pitch in the end was right because I have the same reaction to both albums -- "Oh -- that's it?" (Mentioning Burial is perfectly appropriate too because I feel the same exact way about his stuff!)

funny, portishead is what came to my mind

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Imagine an album flatter than Person Pitch, with novel sonic ideas compressed behind gnomic declarations of domestic bliss.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link

lawn gnomic or wood gnomic

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 19:56 (fifteen years ago) link

many xposts- as for "drawing on many things" ... well, I kinda can't stand Beach Boys vocal affectations normally, think of this WAY more as a post-rock record in the MBV/Seefeel inspired sense of things than anything which implicitly/explicitly reminds me of erm.. Kompakt? or even something on DFA (to really stretch it), freak folk?? god I went blue in the face trying to explain why I thought "Ys" was yadda yadda a commendable piece of art, but actually smelt real bad as a record you'd actually want to listen to.

and yet I quite like this album :/

so I don't think it's really a "sum of a load of cool parts" thing going on here, even if I understand why people might be sceptical, it's not a more than the sum of it's parts either... it's actually something else? that they're managing to make work and good on them for it.

fandango, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link

calling this album "flatter than Person Pitch" which actually sounded like it was spliced straight onto tape, the tape set to play, and then sung over the top is about as close as you can get to an outright lie in describing a record's sound really :/

anyway, I'm glad my own cynicism has temporarily left me for a moment here (can't help wondering what spirit Ned went into the listening of this though?) Alfred's against-the-grain schtick is as tiresome as always... I'd best leave before I get insulting here.

fandango, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link

So, "My Girls." I've listened to it loud and soft, I've listened to it on speakers and headphones, and if a big part of this band's appeal is that they're so sonically rich and expansive, why does it sound like someone's my first MIDI program decked out in a lot of reverb?

I'm really trying to understand how music that sounds so singularly punchless to me becomes so heavily praised (incl. by people who opinions i respect and usually understand). I'm not suggesting that they need to make it "rock" or use live instruments or something but could there not be a single disruptive, interesting sound on the track? As it is it floats by and I barely remember it was ever there.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 20:08 (fifteen years ago) link

one last thing, I don't know *quite* why people are freaking out over "My Girls" to the exclusion of nearly all the rest of the album (and the closer)? Just because it has a bit of boompty bump and a "whoo!" ?

I mean I like it too but apart from a dip near the 2/3rds mark, this record is pretty consistent right through in sound & songs I find....

fandango, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link

so fandango what is your favorite song on the record.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 20:15 (fifteen years ago) link

If anything the density of this record (which I have only now heard in full) makes it slightly understandable why people be so anxious to hear a higher quality version (hopefully they'll buy the album). It's actually hard to work out what's going on in a track like "Also Frightened" at a reduced bitrate.

Meanwhile maybe it's the "flatness" of Person Pitch (which only becomes pejorative if you buy into meaningless, sclerotic critical notions of surface vs depth) that makes it such a great and interesting record, I find that quality of mirage-like insubstantiality quite enchanting. It's like zooming in on the heat-shimmer above the surface of the road on summer's day until all you can see are the waves and curves of the air itself.

Tim F, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 20:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Alfred's against-the-grain schtick is as tiresome as always

I can't wait to read what fandango-style going with-the-grain looks like.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 20:20 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe the opener, I mean that kind of sudden aggressive-ugly-sickly synthy overload (and the way it finally pulls back like the sea lapping away to remind you of the pretty sweet melody lurking underneath) is a pretty audacious way to open a record imo. I guess I like a record that has the confidence to really *make an entrance*.

Or "Bluish" 'cos I'm a soppy twat.

fandango, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 20:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I like the first three tracks and "Taste," which has that key line ""Am I really all the things that are outside of me" that in its own way addresses the kinds of beauty Tim F saw in Person Pitch.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 20:26 (fifteen years ago) link

I feel like I'm going against the grain of myself by actually having positive feelings about this record when I haven't previously taken to this band... of course feel free to treat me as a dittohead whatever. I probably should have kept that thought in my head anyway, apologies.

fandango, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 20:30 (fifteen years ago) link

can't help wondering what spirit Ned went into the listening of this though?

Meaning Person Pitch or Merriweather? If the former, quite neutral but vaguely hopeful in a 'well I hear this is supposed to be really good' sense; if the latter, admittedly wearied about hearing about them -- visions of people kowtowing before Stephin Merritt ten years back came too easily to mind -- combined with a certain sense of cosmic justice at the success of Roxymuzak's prank, so hearing this again six months down the road might well provide a different perspective. And inasmuch as I can't help but feel I've been down this overall road before on a different path with Loveless, some things are just the end product of time, place and who and where you are in life.

As for 'flatness,' pace my remark on PP, Alfred's addition and Tim's follow through -- my use of the word was, if anything, intended to talk about a sense of deflated expectations but also larger contexts, as I hope my quote as a whole was trying to convey, if too briefly. How others might use it in terms of the sound is up to them, and Tim's just given a good illustration of that; I was thinking in a different mindset. (And I firmly believe I can readily praise the group for an evident sense of range and knowing 'what time it is' in a broad sense without thinking the end results really work for me.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I love Tim's descriptions as always but whatever critical notion I might be buying into (or not) PP just left me feeling a bit cheated really, in the same way tbh as the majority of other ILM-acclaimed sample-pop tends to do, be it super-brash and up in your face or subtly wistful.

NOT in the same way as something which I just plainly don't find as much of a magic combination as others seem to, for want of a better example, Burial again (tho I dig some tracks..)

fandango, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 20:37 (fifteen years ago) link

that's cool Ned :)

I wondered if I'd sound too accusatory there "you don't like this what is wrong with you?" style... I just feel like I've maybe locked myself out of records in the past due to cynicism or misplaced expectations. God, I'll be into Xiu Xiu next at this rate ;-)

fandango, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 20:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh I think most people do that at some point or another, doubtless I still do. The truly objective critic doesn't exist, for positive reasons as well as negative ones.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 20:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm kind of feeling odd with this whole discussion as like I hinted earlier, I think this is the first time I've had a serious well rounded opinion about a major release album in about 2/3 years, certainly the first time I've had a really positive feeling towards one.

I just feel it's a record that's very open, that suggests new possibilites and that feels very natural in the process. I mean I actually like the world that this record lives in also, the loose feel of it, the energy and positivity which doesn't cloy or isn't brow beating like so many big rock records.

I think the Beach Boys thing is a total red herring and it surprises me that people can like/dislike this record due to that. Sure the voices sound like the Beach Boys at times but that's just one element amongst many others.

I also think the electronic elements are well integrated into the whole album, as I said, really naturally mixed with the other elements, it's just a v good sort of tapestry feeling, not an awful dance-rock record or something. It just feels a band who've allowed electronic sounds to come into their music rather than forced the whole issue.

I agree with Fandango that it's a good record start to finish, kinda surprised by people only liking one or two tracks. I'm also in the same boat in that I've never heard any AC stuff before this.

Local Garda, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I think the Beach Boys thing is a total red herring and it surprises me that people can like/dislike this record due to that. Sure the voices sound like the Beach Boys at times but that's just one element amongst many others.

It's ultimately the most distracting element, though -- and possibly the one most prone to weighing down reactions to it. I gather in some corners of the AC fan universe there's still a sense of resentment over my crack at the end of the PP review where I suggest it would have been more enjoyable as an instrumental. (I fully realize it would be a different release as a result, similarly to MPP, but that might be the point.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

to part reply to a post above, I don't know that I do think of this record as "rich and expansive" to be honest...

I'm still feeling them out for myself but part of the attraction for me is that a lot of the sonics are pretty cheap and un-prof sounding. It's kind of ramshackle to me, but they're using these tools to try and sound texturally overwhelming, not streamlined. It's a punk kind of way to tilt at lush-ness. And as far as 'expansive' goes, it often feels more ridiculously close, humid, dense as Tim already said (and yes 'close' in a personal way too. Records concerned with the domestic are often accused of blandness and flattening and no change here really... but when that aesthetic can be made to work, is there any problem? Life isn't all rock and roll). I guess reviewers have already said "tropical" 100 times too and that fits as well...

fandango, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link

i might actually like this a bit if it sounded cheaper but the mix is so weird and then it's all like reverbreverbreverbreverb

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link

It's ultimately the most distracting element, though -- and possibly the one most prone to weighing down reactions to it. I gather in some corners of the AC fan universe there's still a sense of resentment over my crack at the end of the PP review where I suggest it would have been more enjoyable as an instrumental. (I fully realize it would be a different release as a result, similarly to MPP, but that might be the point.)

― Ned Raggett

Voices are a dominant element, but the "sound like Beach Boys!" thing is both an overplayed card and a red herring.

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm curious to see how significant the extra detail & clarity might actually be to me when my CD arrives. I'm not really expecting relevations, or to suddenly lose my mind completely in it the way I might have with that Kate Bush record a few years back though....

fandango, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Lots of massed harmonies singing stuff like "I'm really lost in your curls" is guaranteed to make me grind my teeth into a powder, though, and ultimately why I can't like this band.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link

what's wrong with curls? some people look really nice with them.

Local Garda, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Anyone with curls makes me doubt his/her motives.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Of course it's a red herring in many ways, the vocals aren't the music too, thank god, otherwise we'd be talking about the fucking Wondermints. But nonetheless, it's the reference point that's always going to crop up bar some radical revision of their style, and I rather think they've figured out the smartest move of all -- ie, not to care, and to go where their whim takes them.

(Oddly, Alfred's criticism just now makes me think more about how I don't like either the Polyphonic Spree or the Arcade Fire. Not about the curls, though, I like curls.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link

This album makes me think about how much I disliked The Soft Bulletin.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I was going to mention Arcade Fire's earnestness (brow beating) as a reason why I like this record's relative understatement.

Local Garda, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link

That Flaming Lips album has cast a very long shadow.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 21:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Ronan you really have to hear the Gang Gang Dance album.

Tim F, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 21:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I still have to hear that album too, all I know about them is that they were the Boredoms standins in NYC for Boadrum this year.

(Which now that I think about it makes me think that a possible positive role model for MPP would be Vision Creation Newsun -- earlier I was considering vague parallels, ie band established with a certain kind of earlier sound and focus gets to the point where they build up to a monstrously perfect album in a different but related vein that becomes *the* album for a good number of people from that point forward, and which works with electronic elements in a very 'natural' sense, for lack of a better word.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link

What I heard of the GGD album was kind of neat tho i'm not sure i could put it in regular rotation.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 21:29 (fifteen years ago) link

It doesn't really sound like "massed harmonies" on that track though? I'd heard it more as a single vocal line, maybe a bit of multitracking and reverb, occasional back up vox. As Ronan says,quite understated to me!

Whatever the case, of anything on this record it's one of the least "wall of sound" tracks by miles, again I wonder if the learned idea of this record/band isn't overpowering the actual thing?

and it's far, far away from Flaming Lips/Polyphonic Spree/Arcade Fire territory thank f-ck.

fandango, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link

That's an insult to the Lips!

Of course, I think the Lips and Mercury Rev are fundamental components to A.C.'s genome.

QuantumNoise, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 21:35 (fifteen years ago) link

it is far away from that stuff in a lot of respects but my complaint about this album is the same as my complaint about the soft bulletin which is that they both "sound" (in the sense of the individual sounds that were chosen to carry the music) unbelievably dull.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link

The Gang Gang Dance album is amazing also! I've kind of avoided mentioning it in this thread because well... I don't want to get too hyped and/or spin off into extended or unjustified comparisons with this. And I also want to stay well out of bringing more vaguely unnecessary genre comparisons into play or dredge up old ILM indie+dance corpses w/r/t both of these when they stand alone as great records perfectly well without and actually almost transcending such cheap selling points.

fandango, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link

i hadn't been really impressed with the gang gang dance stuff i'd heard, but then i heard a track mixed into one of dj/rupture's radio sets and was like "wow, what is this?"

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost - I was thinking 'bad' lips if that helps :|

fandango, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link

again I wonder if the learned idea of this record/band isn't overpowering the actual thing?

Always a struggle for any band trying to do something different, and it's something both band and audience would have to consider -- lord knows the band could have just locked into Elephant 6 whimsy territory and my reaction would be less equivocal and more 'die and rot.'

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link

I think no more than 10 critics should be allowed to hear any given new album in any given year.

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link

i think critics should be allowed to hear no more than 10 albums in any given year

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Both of these claims are true.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I think no more than 10 critics should be allowed to hear any given new album in any given year.

How's this not true now?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link

I listened to the Gang Gang Dance album in the supermarket last week and it didn't instantly grab me. But I will check again. My listening habits are haywire lately compared to my usual, Three Six Mafia, endless gfunk, Miles Davis...David Lynch associated music.

Local Garda, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link

i have heard like two thirds of this band's records, can someone point me out an actual moment which actually SOUNDS LIKE THE BEACH BOYS, not 'like the idea of the beach boys' or 'like they once heard a beach boys record' or 'conveying a similar spirit to the beach boys', i'd appreciate that

thomp, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link

i mean darren hayman went on about them too but no one ever suddenly thought hefner's vocals were anything like the wilsonses

thomp, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link

thomp, i have no idea what song it was but it's on the new album that was playing at Easy Street. i took my headphones off to see what the fucking racket was and my first thought was, "this shit sounds like the beach boys." When i paid for my purchases i noticed the disc playing was Animal Collective. i have no idea what song was playing but it's on the new disc and my first thought was THIS = BEACH BOYS influenced.

i'm so glad that zip i downloaded was full of Rick Astley. nobody ever accused him of ripping off the beach boys.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 22:13 (fifteen years ago) link

i have heard like two thirds of this band's records, can someone point me out an actual moment which actually SOUNDS LIKE THE BEACH BOYS, not 'like the idea of the beach boys' or 'like they once heard a beach boys record' or 'conveying a similar spirit to the beach boys', i'd appreciate that

I hear a faint sonic resemblance, so "conveying a similar spirit to the beach boys" is enough. Also: the fascination with the language and mores of adolescence.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 22:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I listened to the Gang Gang Dance album in the supermarket last week and it didn't instantly grab me. But I will check again. My listening habits are haywire lately compared to my usual, Three Six Mafia, endless gfunk, Miles Davis...David Lynch associated music.

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join rolling autogoon thred

xhuxk d (deej), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Xfm are doing an Animal Collectve album playback with interview with 2 members of Animal Collective NOW !

http://www.xfm.co.uk/

djmartian, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 23:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry, hype cycle is over now. We're talking about the new Neko Case instead.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 00:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Haven't spent much time with this band (was very turned off by vocals previously) but the "Your Love" bit on "My Girls" is GREAT and the vocals aren't bad at all. Good stuff.

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 00:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I listened to the Gang Gang Dance album in the supermarket

???

ilxor, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 00:54 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe on an ipod u retard?

gr8080, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 01:06 (fifteen years ago) link

(Which now that I think about it makes me think that a possible positive role model for MPP would be Vision Creation Newsun -- earlier I was considering vague parallels, ie band established with a certain kind of earlier sound and focus gets to the point where they build up to a monstrously perfect album in a different but related vein that becomes *the* album for a good number of people from that point forward, and which works with electronic elements in a very 'natural' sense, for lack of a better word.)

Ned, you literally read my mind here. I've been saying and thinking this exact same thing since I first heard the album.

As for Alfred's comment about "I'm really lost in your curls," this is where I find the Beach Boys comparison apt, in that a line like this is, ostensibly, excessively whimsical, to the point that it inadvertently comes across as odd and creepy. The big exception is that there never feels like a release in any of Brian Wilson's mind games, whereas with this band--at frustration's breaking point--the singer shrieks his brains out. But Beach Boys comparisons end there.

talrose, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 02:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Ned, you literally read my mind here. I've been saying and thinking this exact same thing since I first heard the album.

I'm not alone!

This, along with mentions of The Soft Bulletin and me talking about Loveless, along with a random mention of the Avalanches's Since I Left You, was making me mull over the idea of connecting threads between them all, not entirely in terms of style but certainly in terms of treatment of sound beyond the 'basics,' whatever those are meant to be. Also, emotionally connecting threads -- for lack of a better term (as I said, I was mulling this over), I came up with the phrase 'decentered exultance,' where each of these albums I've mentioned, and many more could be suggested, builds beyond the idea of just being a 'studio creation' or hard to replicate live into some sort of fundamental questioning of the band model as received. This even as most of these acts *did* perform live in a band setup, of course.

Nothing formal about any of this, I'm thinking out loud here -- it might just be more a function of the rhetoric around each of those releases that makes me think of possible connections.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 05:02 (fifteen years ago) link

whereas on previous animal collective outings i got the sense that the band struck some of the more thrilling moments by accident with the tendency to circle around and play out ideas in almost ambivalent fashion till songs reached their culminating point, this new record is all very measured and focused, and the frequent astonishing bits seem very pointed and deliberate. i'm really fascinated by Merriweather Post Pavilion and it really surprised me by how direct and immediately enjoyable it was. love it.

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 08:55 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe on an ipod u retard?

^^^

Local Garda, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 12:05 (fifteen years ago) link

I've been listening to this album almost non stop for a week now and it's really wonderful (I had never heard anything from them before). it opens up after each listen to reveal great songwriting and arrangement ideas (the much delayed and only once used chorus in "also frightened" for instance or the beautiful harmonies backing the smoothly sung melody in "bluish"... and of course the insane and infectuous african like melodies/harmonies in "brothersport").

AleXTC, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 12:14 (fifteen years ago) link

The only problem I have with this album is, um, the problem I had with Strawberry Jam. Both feel like they a precursor to something bigger and better. Like, "these are the two albums in which we learn to play our new synths properly and integrate them into what was an indie folk band, and now we present what you've been waiting for..."

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 12:27 (fifteen years ago) link

well, who cares if the actual result is good !
if the following is even better, i'm all for it.

AleXTC, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 12:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, I say that in with good intentions, and for the most part really like MPP.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 12:30 (fifteen years ago) link

that said, as I haven't heard any of their previous stuff (just got "person pitch" but haven't listened to it yet). Since I love this one, which album would be worth getting ?

AleXTC, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 12:38 (fifteen years ago) link

just work your way back

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 12:47 (fifteen years ago) link

but from what I've heard/read, strawberry jam is pretty different, no ?

AleXTC, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 12:50 (fifteen years ago) link

It's the most similar to Merriweather of the AC back catalogue.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 13:03 (fifteen years ago) link

ok, I'll see that, then.
thanx !

AleXTC, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 13:07 (fifteen years ago) link

nothing they've done quite sounds like MPP in my view (though as stated above, 'strawberry jam' probably comes the closest.

and in terms of quality, everything prior to MPP except for 'here comes the indian' seems remarkably even in quality to me. so my advice to anybody would be to listen to them all. that said, i rarely make it all the way through the back half of 'sung tongs', whereas 'feels' and 'strawberry jam' have a really logical and enjoyable structure that makes them nice to listen to from beginning to end.

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 13:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Spirit they've gone:treble heavy Canterbury whimsy folk
Danse Manatee: Like this, more treble, more hiss and noisy elements
Here Comes the Indian:Echoey Boredoms circa Super AE pop music
Campfire Songs: As described
Hollindagain: Inscrutable free folk buried in ambience and tape hiss.
Sung Tongs: Hyper structured free folk with bizarre layered chanting vocals.
Prospect Hummer: rippling arrangements and Vashti Bunyan
Feels: Even More Ripple, keyboards and chanting.
Strawberry Jam: Electronic first go, very compressed sounding, the second half is almost good enough to make up for the first
Water Curses: the bridge between Strawberry Jam and MPP

Plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 14 January 2009 13:19 (fifteen years ago) link

also, that's a shame, We Tigers and Mouth Wooed her are two of the highlights of ST

Plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 14 January 2009 13:20 (fifteen years ago) link

The only problem I have with this album is, um, the problem I had with Strawberry Jam. Both feel like they a precursor to something bigger and better. Like, "these are the two albums in which we learn to play our new synths properly and integrate them into what was an indie folk band, and now we present what you've been waiting for..."

― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:27 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Their first 2 albums (in 2000 and 2001) had tons of synths

mizzell, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I admit I laughed.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link

pretty ironic that a blog that's basically an internet semen stain can make that joke

Local Garda, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link

It's all a cycle!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link

a unicycle

Local Garda, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Like a wheel within a wheel.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Ah right, that place. Pretty funny.

Millsner, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Hey guys

http://kids.niehs.nih.gov/illusion/illusions.htm

Scroll down to the coffee beans, then scroll down below

MIND FUKKIN BLOWN D00D lulz

909090909 Rivethed Brikkchin Reverk now DANZ (Mackro Mackro), Wednesday, 14 January 2009 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw Rick Astley's face in the coffee beans.

Yehudi Menudo (NickB), Wednesday, 14 January 2009 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Never gonna cross your eyes
Never gonna disfocus...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd120/hipsterrunoff/jesus.jpg

It indeed it a pretty funny blag, that one.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link

2nd it=is

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link

The best thing I've read on them

(no rickroll)

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, that's a great review, both of what they gain on MPP and what they lose. Fantastic record, btw. First I've so much as liked since Sung Tongs, and I'm thinking it's a good deal better than that.

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Wednesday, 14 January 2009 17:51 (fifteen years ago) link

That VV review strikes me as fair but is this:

They've exposed the young white world to dub, South American, and African styles;

True in any capacity?

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 14 January 2009 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Vampire Collective oh wait.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 18:19 (fifteen years ago) link

jamesblountonelinersexplainedatgreatlength.jpg

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link

They've exposed the young white world to dub, South American, and African styles;

True in any capacity?

― call all destroyer

Of course not. I just pretended they didn't write that part. Like it was something the editor put in. Plus it's more an aside than thee point, so let it pass.

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Wednesday, 14 January 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, thats some BS. the internet exposed the young white world to dub, S. American, and African styles. also TV.

vergangenheitsbewaeltigung (later arpeggiator), Wednesday, 14 January 2009 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link

also PAUL SIMON

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah it was in that zone of being a throwaway line yet also a ridic bold sweeping statement

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 14 January 2009 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe these are things the young white world is constantly being exposed and reexposed to. And maybe AC are doing this as others before them have done. Not defending the argument, exactly, but I can see as how it might have been intended as less of a "big statement" than it seems.

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Wednesday, 14 January 2009 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link

YWW

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Wednesday, 14 January 2009 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link

: what's on your ipod?

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Wednesday, 14 January 2009 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/sftw/article2110883.ece

lol at the pictures

ianmaxwell, Thursday, 15 January 2009 02:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm gonna listen to this album tomorrow -- is there any chance I'm gonna like it?

Mordy, Thursday, 15 January 2009 02:21 (fifteen years ago) link

not as good as the eagles beating the giants mordy :D

Cocktor Dassantino (k3vin k.), Thursday, 15 January 2009 02:26 (fifteen years ago) link

But what could compete with that????

Mordy, Thursday, 15 January 2009 02:27 (fifteen years ago) link

exactly so youre gonna have to lower yr standards

but srsly if you wanna give it a try, make sure it's high quality.

Cocktor Dassantino (k3vin k.), Thursday, 15 January 2009 02:29 (fifteen years ago) link

I have a new year's resolution though; No matter how much I may hate Merriweather, I refuse to spend posts on this thread bitching about it.

Mordy, Thursday, 15 January 2009 02:30 (fifteen years ago) link

hipster runoff and anything of its ilk is the aids of the internet, and is exactly everything it claims to oppose.

Local Garda, Thursday, 15 January 2009 02:34 (fifteen years ago) link

u r so close to getting the joke - keep goin buddy

ice cr?m, Thursday, 15 January 2009 02:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I have great love for your posts ice cream but i don't believe you on this one!

Local Garda, Thursday, 15 January 2009 02:38 (fifteen years ago) link

well i think its a funny site is all

ice cr?m, Thursday, 15 January 2009 02:46 (fifteen years ago) link

I just find it a bit burt stanton

Local Garda, Thursday, 15 January 2009 02:47 (fifteen years ago) link

i like to bring Barthes' Death of the Author to ILX. so i make up burt's motivations for comments. generally i assume they're tongue-in-cheek ironic. it makes reading ILX more enjoyable (tho not by a whole lot, admittedly).

Mordy, Thursday, 15 January 2009 02:48 (fifteen years ago) link

hipsterrunoff is A+ guys

Cocktor Dassantino (k3vin k.), Thursday, 15 January 2009 02:53 (fifteen years ago) link

hipster runoff is so clearly the people theyre making fun of and its funny and insightful and i just have a soft soft for things that are so completely cynical because if i may speak seriously for a moment if you find reading them deflating then thats an indication that u were inflating some pointless idea that u probably dont really give a shit abt anyway

ice cr?m, Thursday, 15 January 2009 02:54 (fifteen years ago) link

you're totally otm. he's just super funny and insightful and he's responsible for awesome/funny words like "meaningful-core" which everyone uses now whether thye know why they're using it or not. and guys, that AnCo piece was 3461 WORDS

Cocktor Dassantino (k3vin k.), Thursday, 15 January 2009 03:25 (fifteen years ago) link

yah guy is writing machine its like he nabisco or something

ice cr?m, Thursday, 15 January 2009 03:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Was reading that hipster runoff blog and its main effect was giving me an overwhelming desire to listen to this album and it is the first time I wasn't just zeroing in on My Girls and Brothersport and yes, Summertime clothes is gr8!

Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 15 January 2009 12:13 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't find reading it deflating I just find it burt stanton, as I said...writing about "hipsters" like this or this kind of parasitic brief just grinds my gears.

Local Garda, Thursday, 15 January 2009 12:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Stuff Hipster People Like.

Matt DC, Thursday, 15 January 2009 12:59 (fifteen years ago) link

i have never really got into this band (i like 2 or 3 songs by them) and havent listened to an album of thiers all the way thru.

Michael B, Thursday, 15 January 2009 13:15 (fifteen years ago) link

cheers for that insight.

on a slightly more serious note. Ive been a massive AC fan from day one but after (actually, during) sung tongs they got really twee and annoying. On the other hand, Ive seen them play two amazing live shows in the post feels period and I thought the panda bear album was great. Will this album make me want to rip it off the CD (which i never actually done for feels)?

straightola, Thursday, 15 January 2009 13:47 (fifteen years ago) link

yes it will

as a side note, what do you think of this semi-serius quote on hipster runoff
I think the music reviews of Merriweather Post Pavvy will probably be ‘the last great music reviews’ of all time.

baaderonixx, Thursday, 15 January 2009 13:50 (fifteen years ago) link

sorry:

I think the music reviews of Merriweather Post Pavvy will probably be ‘the last great music reviews’ of all time.

baaderonixx, Thursday, 15 January 2009 13:51 (fifteen years ago) link

or a deluge of post-pfork staffers wanking out portfolio pieces to send to the wire

straightola, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:14 (fifteen years ago) link

merriweather post pavvy

8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:14 (fifteen years ago) link

or a deluge of post-pfork staffers wanking out portfolio pieces to send to the wire

great material

Local Garda, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:17 (fifteen years ago) link

okay can i just say that "brothersport" is A++++++++++++

I don't care if this ruins my credibility together forever.

Tim F, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link

the album version of "lion in a coma" is v v crap compared to the live version

Local Garda, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Is it in 9/8 time? I tried to count it out and it seems to work right up to the point where they start singing and ruin everything. Though I like the line "something something something something MY BEDROOM!!!!"

Tim F, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:28 (fifteen years ago) link

the biggest diff is he sings it up an octave live and it sounds much more urgent and dramatic, whereas the album one is down the octave and just seems so flat. it's one of the few tracks where the studio seems to have sucked the colour out of it rather than made it more vivid.

Local Garda, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link

who did that hilarious water curses review that rattled out a load of first year literary theory and quoted some bullshit PHD dissertation piece about gender and race issues in new weird? or was it a different record/band ? I feel its particularly fitting

straightola, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link

i should really listen to the record before any more cussing

straightola, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I love "brothersport" so much I want to take it behind a middle school and get it pregnant.

AleXTC, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:32 (fifteen years ago) link

who did that hilarious water curses review that rattled out a load of first year literary theory and quoted some bullshit PHD dissertation piece about gender and race issues in new weird?

I believe you are referring to this.

Hatch, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link

that Water Curses review was on Dusted, but it seems to have vanished from the site. http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:Xu4EnV5jOQkJ:www.dustedmagazine.com/reviews/4276+dusted+water+curses&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=uk Pretty great.

I saw them a couple of nights ago and it was totally awesome, seemed like every song was better than the last. And they played Banshee Beat, Winters Love and Slippi, wahey.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link

oops, beaten to it.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Reading that thing never gets boring.

"the fiscal cross"

QuantumNoise, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:43 (fifteen years ago) link

What would a "fiscal cross" even look like?

QuantumNoise, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Someone does the obvious and mashes up "My Girls" and "Your Love"

Number None, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link

isnt that a lyndyhop move?

straightola, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:45 (fifteen years ago) link

When the drums kick in on "In The Flowers" it sounds like Thor playing a carousel tune.

Andrew Sandwich, Thursday, 15 January 2009 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link

"something something something something MY BEDROOM!!!!"

aka all our autobiographies.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 January 2009 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link

hipster runoff is so clearly the people theyre making fun of and its funny and insightful and i just have a soft soft

― ice cr?m

soft soft?

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Thursday, 15 January 2009 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link

lol "soft spot"

ice cr?m, Thursday, 15 January 2009 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link

"...the perennial problem with electronics-based gigs: that watching three guys twiddle knobs (stop the sniggering back there) for 90 minutes isn’t the most engrossing experience in the world"

http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/2009/01/animal-collective-koko-london-12012009/

thats why im not sure i wanna see them live

Zeno, Thursday, 15 January 2009 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link

"I'm only playing this old-fashioned thing cause it is so interesting to look at."
http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/wp-content/images/2009/01/ac3.jpg

mizzell, Thursday, 15 January 2009 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link

in 2009, electronic instruments could be also referred as old-fashioned

Zeno, Thursday, 15 January 2009 20:51 (fifteen years ago) link

"...the perennial problem with electronics-based gigs: that watching three guys twiddle knobs (stop the sniggering back there) for 90 minutes isn’t the most engrossing experience in the world"

this still bothers people? laptop shows are fine if you like the music.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Thursday, 15 January 2009 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link

New York's all right if you like saxophones.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 January 2009 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link

i was at that show reviewed just up there and it was pretty dope

t_g, Thursday, 15 January 2009 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link

(knob twiddling isnt really a big deal for me tho)

t_g, Thursday, 15 January 2009 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.nowtoronto.com/music/discs.cfm?content=166771

Mr. Dare-To-Be-Different sez "none of these tracks are as rump-shakin' as Grass" and that "Lion In A Coma" is the best track.

Owen Pallett, Thursday, 15 January 2009 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link

'definitely an album for the ipod generation'??

t_g, Thursday, 15 January 2009 21:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Thank you for the Rough Trade Bonus CD mix, t_g. I had never heard any of those songs, and it's really awesome. It's not purchase-able anywhere, right?

Shannon Whirry & the Bad Brains, Friday, 16 January 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Saw these folks last night - what's the song that is basically just Panda Bear singing with pretty much only what sounds like a looped guitar track from the Field for company? Also there was a storming boofta-boofta GAS-like song that was awesome. Maybe these was just jammings though.

Yehudi Menudo (NickB), Friday, 16 January 2009 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I couldn't tell you the songs based on your descriptions but here's the setlist from last night.

Blue Sky
My Girls
Daily Routine
Also Frightened
Summertime Clothes
Slippi
Lion In A Coma
Guys Eyes
Fireworks
Brother Sport

Encore
Winter's Love
Leaf House

mizzell, Friday, 16 January 2009 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Panda Bear song - this?

Number None, Friday, 16 January 2009 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

OK, I'm late to this party (just in time for the kneejerk backlash, or a little late for that too, based on the a cursory readthrough of this fine thread) but I just started listening to this record and I don't want to stop. It is exquisitely-honed artifice, like a Koons sculpture or Zoloft-induced elation, or something. I'll leave the critiquing to you critics, whilst I bliss out to this wonderful album on my headphones some more.

Pillboxxx/The Lol Belol (Pillbox), Friday, 16 January 2009 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link

^ X!

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Friday, 16 January 2009 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

pillbox that is the best argument i've heard yet for the enjoyment of this album.

THE HIPSTER DILEMMA (call all destroyer), Friday, 16 January 2009 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link

why thank you.

Pillboxxx/The Lol Belol (Pillbox), Friday, 16 January 2009 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Zoloft-induced elation

I read this as 'Zoloft-induced erection' and thought 'no thank you.'

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 January 2009 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Actually, Ned, decreased sex-drive and/or erectile dysfunction are unfortunate side-effects of Zoloft consumption, so a "Zoloft-induced erection" would be quite absurd, if not paradoxical.

Pillboxxx/The Lol Belol (Pillbox), Friday, 16 January 2009 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link

..which led me to conjure the phrase "Zoloft boner"

Pillboxxx/The Lol Belol (Pillbox), Friday, 16 January 2009 21:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Merriweather Post Pavillion gives me a Zoloft boner. (OK, now I will shut up).

Pillboxxx/The Lol Belol (Pillbox), Friday, 16 January 2009 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Mizzell, thanks a lot for the set list. Just checked and the Field-ish Panda Bear song was 'Daily Routine'. That guitar-ish sample (from about 3.30 into that song on MPP) was turned right up and each hit set up this gorgeous bunch of ripples after it. Really great.

(thanks too Number None - that's a pretty song!)

Yehudi Menudo (NickB), Friday, 16 January 2009 23:17 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, I don't get all the hate for "Daily Routine." I like the shifting dynamics of the album, & the schizoid nature of it definitely warrants the early-M. Rev comparisons A/C always get: From madcap bubblegum one minute to zoned-out drones the next. Fine by me.

Pillboxxx/The Lol Belol (Pillbox), Friday, 16 January 2009 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link

"Daily Routine" doesn't seem particularly more difficult than "Also Frightened", "Guys Eyes" and "Taste", all of which strike me as equally as approachable as or more approachable then the majority of their recorded music prior to this album.

Also I like its loping waltz rhythm.

Tim F, Saturday, 17 January 2009 01:01 (fifteen years ago) link

i acknowledge that we human beings have difference of opinions and whatever, but i cannot imagine someone sitting down with this album playing and not liking it. it's unthinkable and kind of depresses me. even if you tried really hard not to like it, you would just find yourself thinking about the album so much you would inevitably want to listen to it again, right? i know it's 2009 and nobody likes anything anymore, and i know animal collective aren't the beatles, but i just wish everyone would just love this album alot and it became a real, widely listened-to classic album that everyone and their grandmothers could get down to. i want to go out this summer and hear "summertime clothes" being played from people's car radios, i want to hear "my girls" and "brother sport" played at dance parties. are we really too cynical to let this masterpiece of an album go to waste? pitchfork and every blog on the internet are doing their part by hyping it to shreds, but i really wish it somehow gets further. and why do people decry hype, anyways? i guess they feel it's undeserved or whatever, and okay maybe we tend to exaggerate when we like something, but can't we just have one album that we can all just love together? i listen to some freaky music, but this is a fucking pop album. i wouldn't expect a metalhead to love it, but is it really necessary for us normal people to dislike it?

samosa gibreel, Saturday, 17 January 2009 01:31 (fifteen years ago) link

god i hate when ppl pull this "i am proud that i dont understand _____" shit

roxymuzak, Saturday, 17 January 2009 01:37 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost. sock?

Women can be captains too, you know? (jim), Saturday, 17 January 2009 01:38 (fifteen years ago) link

i acknowledge that we human beings have difference of opinions and whatever, but i cannot imagine someone sitting down with this album playing and not liking it. it's unthinkable and kind of depresses me.

Yeah, I remember how I reacted to first hearing Loveless too.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 17 January 2009 02:12 (fifteen years ago) link

(Seriously, not trying to be mean here, but time will tell.)

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 17 January 2009 02:12 (fifteen years ago) link

i suppose you're right. i don't mean to say everyone has to really really love it though, just that they should all at least be like "it's not my thing, but it's a good album" or something along those lines. i realize that it's incredibly naive of me to say that, and i typed most of that post during the really epic ending of "brother sport," but there's a legitimate point to be made in that there aren't many huge albums anymore, and besides the odd solid, ubiquitous top 40 radio jam, music isn't as uniting as (i imagine) it used to be. why is that?

samosa gibreel, Saturday, 17 January 2009 02:34 (fifteen years ago) link

you are right. mpp is brilliant. but Feels is even better imo.

Zeno, Saturday, 17 January 2009 10:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I like the album but the above is incredibly silly samosa. Think outside the zone of your own taste and obviously plenty of people will dislike/be bored by/hate/have no opinion whatsoever about this record.

Local Garda, Saturday, 17 January 2009 12:31 (fifteen years ago) link

but can't we just have one album that we can all just love together?

― samosa gibreel, Saturday, January 17, 2009 1:31 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark

^ That's a pretty impossible thing, you know.

Owen Pallett, Saturday, 17 January 2009 13:27 (fifteen years ago) link

I love this record and I'm super happy that everybody else loves it too.

Compared to other latter-day Animal Collective records, I don't love the mix. It's bright and compressed and lacking in subtlety and it makes my ears ring. This record reminds me of Jagged Little Pill, or Is This It... it'll sounds great on the radio but not on the headphones.

Owen Pallett, Saturday, 17 January 2009 13:37 (fifteen years ago) link

so you're saying that this is basically our generation's "jagged little pill"?

s1ocki, Saturday, 17 January 2009 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't know about this/last year as a whole, but between MPP, fever ray and gang gang dance, this season is totally touching me in all the right ways and places.

poortheatre, Saturday, 17 January 2009 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't hate the album, and let's be honest - when it comes to me and the Animal Collective/Panda Bear/Joanna Newsom collective, not hating it might be the best you can hope for.

Mordy, Saturday, 17 January 2009 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link

ugh man, leave Joanna Newsom out of this man. She's awful.

Women can be captains too, you know? (jim), Saturday, 17 January 2009 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link

so you're saying that this is basically our generation's "jagged little pill"?

― s1ocki, Saturday, January 17, 2009 4:24 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

Exactly not,

(Although I can imagine Avey singing a line like "You're my best friend / best friend with benefits / I am aware now / I am aware now")

Owen Pallett, Saturday, 17 January 2009 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link

do Animal Collective understand Irony better than Alanis?

Mr. Que, Saturday, 17 January 2009 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link

i love me some of 'is this it' on headphones, actually

Charlie Howard, Saturday, 17 January 2009 22:30 (fifteen years ago) link

ugh man, leave Joanna Newsom out of this man. She's awful.

Let's not make false distinctions.

Mordy, Sunday, 18 January 2009 04:56 (fifteen years ago) link

are we really too cynical to let this masterpiece of an album go to waste?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/153/421990057_159d0760d9.jpg

THE HIPSTER DILEMMA (call all destroyer), Sunday, 18 January 2009 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link

i acknowledge that we human beings have difference of opinions and whatever, but i cannot imagine someone sitting down with this album playing and not liking it. it's unthinkable and kind of depresses me.

i honestly think it's kinda depressing that so many people like it. as owen pointed out, the mix is crap, and as other people have said, there are better AC albums out there.

i know everybody needs an album to 'get behind' lately so they can feel better about the state of music, etc, but i have listened to this record several times and tried to like it and i just DON'T. the production is super blown out, hypercolor vomit; the melodies are too frenetic and clipped together to really stick in my head, and i just think a lot of the loops sound clunky and overwrought.

listening to MPP is like being in the room with somebody who has done way too much coke, basically. it's a visceral experience, but one i'd rather avoid if given the chance.

all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Sunday, 18 January 2009 20:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I think Owen's JLP comparison is spot on, and that's part of what nauseated me about the record. All high end, no bottom.

Turangalila, Sunday, 18 January 2009 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link

^good point, but i dont think that's always a bad thing necessarily. the walkmen for example

Socktor Duperman (k3vin k.), Sunday, 18 January 2009 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link

'Daily Routine' is great, it catches the same kind of vibe as the outro on 'Chores', Lennox is really great at that kind of slowing down thing. I've gone from not being bothered about 2/3rds of MPP to loving all but about one track in the space of a week, I do think seeing them live on Thursday cemented all that though.

'Lion In A Coma' sucks such massive balls, although 'Summertime Clothes' hugely redeems Portner for that.

I'm seeing people who loathed AC for some time loving a fair swathe of this record now.

i know everybody needs an album to 'get behind' lately so they can feel better about the state of music, etc, but i have listened to this record several times and tried to like it and i just DON'T. the production is super blown out, hypercolor vomit; the melodies are too frenetic and clipped together to really stick in my head, and i just think a lot of the loops sound clunky and overwrought.

I always think that about every Animal Collective record, for about a month, then it ceases being an issue.

Mister Craig, Sunday, 18 January 2009 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link

being in a room with someone who has done way too much coke is not a visceral experience.

s1ocki, Sunday, 18 January 2009 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Unless you're doing it with them??

Tim F, Sunday, 18 January 2009 21:58 (fifteen years ago) link

it can be viscerally repugnant

roxymuzak, Sunday, 18 January 2009 22:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Conspicuously pregnant

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 January 2009 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link

"being in a room with someone who has done way too much coke "

depends who's the guy/girl

Zeno, Sunday, 18 January 2009 22:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I've gone from not being bothered about 2/3rds of MPP to loving all but about one track in the space of a week, I do think seeing them live on Thursday cemented all that though.

^^^ this totally. The whole live thing has definitely changed the way I'm hearing this, though it's hard to put my finger on how exactly. But now I'm definitely hearing pulses and rhythyms that I didn't really notice before, I'm thinking about who's doing what and how the parts are related to each other, I'm navigating my way into what had previously seemed a flat, bright, bewildering wall of sound and it's really coming ALIVE, and damn, I'm still seeing fucking strobe lights going off in my head when I think about listening to it.

Yehudi Menudo (NickB), Sunday, 18 January 2009 22:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Show me the way, Pete.

Yehudi Menudo (NickB), Sunday, 18 January 2009 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link

(but watch out for the trick behind you, dude)

Yehudi Menudo (NickB), Sunday, 18 January 2009 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link

duh, trick truck

Yehudi Menudo (NickB), Sunday, 18 January 2009 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link

a little btw...

Zeno, Sunday, 18 January 2009 23:09 (fifteen years ago) link

yay

poortheatre, Sunday, 18 January 2009 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link

"hip" a capella groups are the worst thing in all the world imo

gr8080, Sunday, 18 January 2009 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link

yes

Women can be captains too, you know? (jim), Sunday, 18 January 2009 23:50 (fifteen years ago) link

This thread should be re-titled: Click here for massively unpopular opinions.

Owen Pallett, Monday, 19 January 2009 00:53 (fifteen years ago) link

I love this record and I'm super happy that everybody else loves it too.

Compared to other latter-day Animal Collective records, I don't love the mix. It's bright and compressed and lacking in subtlety and it makes my ears ring. This record reminds me of Jagged Little Pill, or Is This It... it'll sounds great on the radio but not on the headphones.

I really didn't fall for this record until I listened to it without headphones for the first time. The compression thing is weird... I don't have the vinyl yet, am intrigued to see if there's less compression in the vinyl mastering - I've been listening to it off mp3 ripped from vinyl.

Mister Craig, Monday, 19 January 2009 01:02 (fifteen years ago) link

inhibitionist, did your review by chance mention how their singing is often times annoying (maybe in more clever words)?

No, because on Merriweather, the two vocalists' voices are at their least annoying, imo. However, if you can't tolerate Beach Boys-like vocals, you may find this album tough going.
― inhibitionist, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 07:56 (6 days ago)

please don't compare beach boys vocals to animal collective vocals

CaptainLorax, Monday, 19 January 2009 01:54 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

roxymuzak, Monday, 19 January 2009 01:57 (fifteen years ago) link

please don't compare beach boys vocals to animal collective vocals

i half-agree. i think the comparison is justified with panda bear, but i agree it couldn't be further from the truth in avey tare's case. besnard lakes, now that's a band with beach boys vocals.

samosa gibreel, Monday, 19 January 2009 02:54 (fifteen years ago) link

please don't compare beach boys vocals to animal collective vocals

i half-agree. i think the comparison is justified with panda bear, but i agree it couldn't be further from the truth in avey tare's case. besnard lakes, now that's a band with beach boys vocals.

This.

I do, however, adore the new AC record. I think I like it a little bit more than Strawberry Jam, but a little less than Feels. That could change after a few listens though.

drainCosmetics, Monday, 19 January 2009 08:29 (fifteen years ago) link

there actually *is* a great deal going on more that I wasn't hearing on the mp3 leak really.

fandango, Monday, 19 January 2009 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link

So, I'm actually really digging this album. I like about 4 of the songs on it (My Girls, Summertime Clothes, Taste, and Bluish). The more I listen to it, the more I like it (unlike, say, Person Pitch where the more I listened the less I liked it).

Mordy, Monday, 19 January 2009 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link

After the obv ("Brother Sport") my current favourite is "Guys Eyes" - it's like all these waves crashing over each other, but much more tuneful than that implies.

Tim F, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Album has really grown on me after getting used to the production. The good songs are utterly fantastic, and the weaker songs not as blah as I originally thought. Guys Eyes, though, reminds me somewhat of Ben Folds Five, which is somewhat off-putting.

HPSCHD, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 04:31 (fifteen years ago) link

like if Ben Folds recorded 4 or 5 different melodies over the same piano line, and then played all of the versions on top of each other

HPSCHD, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 04:33 (fifteen years ago) link

I wanna say that I'm liking more and more of this every time I listen, and I'm really shocked by that.

Mordy, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 07:21 (fifteen years ago) link

no love for 'in the flowers'?

vain_bowers, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 08:40 (fifteen years ago) link

sure. i love it.

gr8080, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 08:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Really the whole album is great. I even love "Lion In A Coma" now (initially the awkward time signature threw me off - it's in 9/8 I think, but it's difficult to count out).

Still, this album makes me even gladder that they made Strawberry Jam. As great as they are, the Avey Tare songs on this (at least: "Summertime Clothes" and "Bluish" - I can't work out whether "Also Frightened", "Guys Eyes" and "Taste" are Avey songs, Panda songs, or co-writes) are kinda what you would expect if you drew a line from Feels into dense electronic pop. Animal Collective may not ever make songs like "Peacebone" or "For Reverend Green" again, which accords with their restlessness, but I'm glad they Avey had the chance to do those songs.

Tim F, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 11:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I didn't like "Lion" too much until I saw the live version last week. It was pretty fun. "Bluish" is so wonderful.
Actually, following many people's advices I've listened to "person pitch" in the meantime and I don't like it that much. some songs are fun but it lacks something compared to MPP. Maybe Avey's songs !

AleXTC, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 11:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I can't work out whether "Also Frightened", "Guys Eyes" and "Taste" are Avey songs, Panda songs, or co-writes
Guys Eyes is Panda, he did a solo version on this Portuguese radio show 2 years ago http://mafama.blogspot.com/2007/01/panda-bear-m-fama.html It was orginally built around a a Zombies sample.
The others are Avey's, I think.

mizzell, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Guys Eyes was called Song for Ariel back then.

mizzell, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link

could someone put the tracklist of the album with the songwriter for each track ?
so far, it seems I prefer Avey's, except "brothersport" by Panda.

AleXTC, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:10 (fifteen years ago) link

My Girls
Daily Routine
Guys Eyes
Brothersport

these are panda's, the rest are avey's.

mizzell, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link

ah ok, thanx. so the only 2 tracks I don't like too much are by Panda. But then he also did "My girls" and "Brothersport" so it more than makes up !
That explains why I don't like "person pitch" much since, for me, it's Avey's tracks that give the substance to the album and "person pitch" doesn't have "hits" like "my girls" and "brothersport".

AleXTC, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Altough MPP is going to be one of my albums of the year, the album is bit of a dissapointing for me. I think it's a missed chance to make it one of the best albums ever:

- Why is the record this compressed and aren't the songs dissolving in each other?
- "my girls": why is it so fast? why are the vocals so high? where's is the 2 minutes kompakt-esque start?
- "taste": where's the "am I real" ('a mili' modus) part at the end of the song?
- A few screams by Avey would also fit nicely

Well it's clear that I love the MPP live experience more then the actual album though I don't see a reason why these things wouldn't work at home. The record misses a bit of subtility for me. Was Ben Allen the best producer for this album?

maarten, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 22:15 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe youre just (too) used to the live version songs

Zeno, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 00:09 (fifteen years ago) link

it's a major disappointment that dusted didn't let andrew beckerman theorize this one

kamerad, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 02:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I heard this today, and it was really bad. I thought the earlier stuff was fine, but this album makes the earlier stuff sound like godhead in comparison. "My Girls" was especially bad and boring.

Animal Collective vs. Fleet Foxes in Band That Makes You Hate The Beach Boys More

Ashee Bolanalli (Mackro Mackro), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 05:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I kinda wish it was all rickrolled instead :-/

Ashee Bolanalli (Mackro Mackro), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 05:20 (fifteen years ago) link

This place.

M.V., Wednesday, 21 January 2009 06:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I kept an eye on this thread during the rickrolling and had lots of good lols but now I'm convinced this album doesn't exist and that all the commentary surrounding it is a huge cosmic joke.

Euler, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Hey you figured out the secret message on the cover, then.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I. Love. This.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 19:54 (fifteen years ago) link

love can be so misleading
animal collective fans remind me of joy division fans in that - how can you listen past that voice?
my ian curtis vocal comparison is interpol and she wants revenge.
my animal collective vocal comparison is too those 'hip' a capella chorus groups but with nasally lead singer(s?).
-I dunno what the appeal of animal collective is at all, is every song just a ambient technoish build up filled with flights of fancy? matched with terrible vocals that either drive people to love them or hate them. Once again vocals play a vital role in judging this band.
<your fan base

CaptainLorax, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link

these kids should have stayed in church

CaptainLorax, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link

vocals play little to no role in judging this band. no one who likes Animal Collective likes them because they really really enjoy the sound of Avey Tare's voice.

HPSCHD, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link

The sound of Avey's vocals aren't very important on this record - esp. compared to Feels where his vocals were consistently marvellous and totally crucial to the sound/feel of the songs (e.g. the wonderful chorus on "Banshee Beat"), or Strawberry Jam where his grunty/moany/squealy angst really set the tone of his songs.

Conversely, I can see how Panda Bear's backing vocals (present even on most of Avey's songs here) could form a stumbling block for anyone who didn't like them.

Tim F, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 23:02 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm nowhere near the stage of being able to pick out individual vocals. I'm still luxuriating in its glorious entirety. It gets better every time I listen. (And really: I was deeply unsure about it from what I'd read.)

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link

I am finding it weird how when I say I like this record people act like I am a member of some Divine Light Missionary Cult...is this how Animal Collective fans really are?

Local Garda, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 23:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I politely told a couple who knocked on my door a few days ago that, sorry, I couldn't afford a magazine subscription.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 23:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Conversely, I can see how Panda Bear's backing vocals (present even on most of Avey's songs here) could form a stumbling block for anyone who didn't like them.

http://www.sciencebase.com/science-blog/images/sign-with-sharp-edges.jpg

M.V., Wednesday, 21 January 2009 23:55 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost to Tim

okay, perhaps i was overstating it. i guess i figured that that melody and creation of mood were the band's more obvious strengths (mood far past simply what the singer's voice sounds like, that is). i just imagine that when someone says that they don't like a singer's voice, it has less to do with whatever processing is or isn't done to it or whether or not you can hear it easily in the mix or whether at any given point you are being breathy or screamy or yelpy, and more just to do with simply the quality of the voice (not the best choice of words, i know). and this is coming from someone who DOES enjoy both these guys' voices and the way they inform the tone of their songs, but it just doesn't seem quite as essential an aspect - i.e. someone else could be singing the same notes and i'd enjoy it almost as much.

HPSCHD, Thursday, 22 January 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link

having been listening to it in lieu of just about anything else for the past month, I am beginning to be a wee bit embarrassed by how much I like this album.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 22 January 2009 00:11 (fifteen years ago) link

"someone else could be singing the same notes and i'd enjoy it almost as much."

Yes, but I think probably the vocals-haters (which i am certainly not) would dislike the vocal arrangements * on songs like "Also Frightened", "Guys Eyes", "No More Runnin", "Taste" and "Brothersport" regardless of which voices were actually singing them.

* i.e. use of close harmonies, Beach Boys-meets-barbershop style overlapping etc.

Tim F, Thursday, 22 January 2009 00:23 (fifteen years ago) link

The Beach Boys comparison thing didn't happen before 'Person Pitch' did it? I think some of that record does exhibit a big Beach Boys thing but I can't hear it on MPP unless all vocal harmonies = Beach Boys. It's lazy journalese, no?

Mister Craig, Thursday, 22 January 2009 00:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Knowing how huge a fan of the Beach Boys Mackro is, say, he would not have have busted out the comparison if he did not feel it was applicable, and in the case of AC's use of the sound, an example of how not to do it.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 January 2009 00:31 (fifteen years ago) link

to give AC (and by proxy Panda Bear) some credit here, these guys have been able to use (not all the time as has been stated) Wilson-esque vocal harmonies that don't resolve in an expected way. Sure, AC harmonizes a lot, but it's a basically a genetic code in the listener whether one detects resolution in places in songs or not. On the flip, the Beach Boys and certainly many groups influenced by them in between (High Llamas, Fleet Foxes kinda, etc.) have followed more Beach Boys traditions than just the vocal harmonizing and the resolutions. AC just use the harmonizing as one of many colors in their palette -- which may drive people more attuned to Beach Boys type songs crazy. So, yeah, I admit I'm probably in this latter ol' fogey category.

I have this same issue with the Fleet Foxes album. The techniques are superb, but the results aren't always all that. I like that album more than this new AC one.. however, the Foxes are certainly trying harder to emulate Beach Boys, whereas it's just a relatively smaller part of AC, me thinks.

So yeah, i'll put the whole Beach Boys thing to rest here. sorry folx.

Ashee Bolanalli (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 22 January 2009 00:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Keep in mind that I've been on a steady diet of Slade, Sweet, Flipper, and The Free Design lately.. so my concepts of harmonizing are kinda uncalibrated right now.

Ashee Bolanalli (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 22 January 2009 00:38 (fifteen years ago) link

whoo boy, terrified to even get involved here but "college" on sung tongs is unexplainable as anything other than a bboys homage

Bangelo, Thursday, 22 January 2009 00:58 (fifteen years ago) link

dumb video http://www.myanimalhome.net/

eman, Thursday, 22 January 2009 04:22 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.nyctaper.com/?p=511

t_g, Thursday, 22 January 2009 11:35 (fifteen years ago) link

20. Chicago Bulls — Pass Goat the mic, let him get him up in the air: "The Bulls are like the new Animal Collective record. There's no real rhyme or reason to it. You don't really know what they're all about. It's not as good as people think, but it's not as bad as people think either. Wins over the Raptors and Cavs are the equivalent of 'My Girls' and 'Brother Sport,' if you're wondering. (You weren't wondering.)" [J.E.]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/BDL-NBA-Power-Rankings-Do-you-believe-in-Magic-;_ylt=AtoZq4_U3li.ch_rUHXTJka8vLYF?urn=nba,135466

mizzell, Thursday, 22 January 2009 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Still can't bring myself to listen to the version I downloaded weeks ago.

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 22 January 2009 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link

lol @ that thing comparing anco and the bulls, though it's really more true for the bulls.

THE HIPSTER DILEMMA (call all destroyer), Thursday, 22 January 2009 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link

ok well michael chornomanz sent me an apology and now we are total bros

roxymuzak, Friday, 23 January 2009 22:29 (fifteen years ago) link

:(

BIGrack HOOSein Obama (k3vin k.), Friday, 23 January 2009 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link

And then you danced.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 January 2009 22:34 (fifteen years ago) link

hes a nice kid!!!!

roxymuzak, Friday, 23 January 2009 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Parody of Barack Obama ... best music writing of 2008 so far...

From Ronan F's Irish friend Una

http://unarocks.blogspot.com/2009/01/celebrity-album-reviews-1-barack-obama.html

Celebrity Album Reviews #1: Barack Obama reviews Animal Collective - 'Merriweather Post Pavilion'

I stand here today humbled by the album before me, grateful for the sounds that have been bestowed, mindful of the sacrifices borne by a record label. Animal Collective have now made nine albums. The songs have been recorded during rising tides of prosperity and the still waters of peace. Yet, every so often an album is released amidst gathering clouds and raging storms, genres blurring beyond recognition, a music industry in freefall. So it has been. So it must be with this generation of Americans.

Today I say to you that the complexities of this record are real. They are serious and they are many. They will not be met easily or in a short span of time. But know this, music lover – they will be met.

On this day, we appreciate this record because we have chosen progress over the static, avant-guarde beauty over reluctant discord. From the glowing synth of ‘My Girls’, inspired by our forefather Frankie Knuckles, to the expansive exquisiteness of ‘Summertime Clothes’. On this day, we come to proclaim an end to landfill indie, the petty pop and false promises, the worn out MOR rock, all of these things that for far too long have strangled our music collections.

Animal Collective remain a young band, but in the words of Scripture, the time has come to set aside childish things. Their time has come to reaffirm their enduring spirit, to choose a better history, and to carry forward that precious gift, that noble idea, of innovation and experimentation in indie music.

Everywhere on this record, there are intricacies. The sounds are as glorious as they are mysterious. The progress in vocal harmonies and melodies is tinged with bravery, courage and hope. All this they do so well. We are the keepers of this legacy.

What the cynics fail to understand is that the ground has shifted beneath them. The question we ask today is not whether this album is cool or not, but whether it works.

Men and women and children of every race and every faith can join in celebration over this magnificent album. So let us mark this record with remembrance, of who Animal Collective are and how far they have travelled.

In the year of Animal Collective’s birth, in the coldest of months, a small band of musicians huddled by dying cigarette lights on the shores of home studios. Music was being abandoned. The enemy of thoughtless songwriting was advancing. At a moment when the outcome of the flux in the industry was most in doubt, Animal Collective banded together and succeeded. And like true citizens, they persevered in their craft, and it is only because of that, they can produce such work now.

With eyes fixed on the horizon and God's grace upon them, they carry forth that great gift of ‘Merriweather Post Pavilion’ and will deliver it safely to future generations. Thank you. God bless you. And God bless Animal Collective.
Posted by UnaRocks at 3:29 PM

djmartian, Friday, 23 January 2009 22:48 (fifteen years ago) link

rewind..Parody of Barack Obama ... best music writing of 2009 so far...

djmartian, Friday, 23 January 2009 22:49 (fifteen years ago) link

oops wrong merriweather "post" pavilion

roxymuzak, Friday, 23 January 2009 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link

xx-post that's priceless

willem, Friday, 23 January 2009 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link

tbf though that's abt the nicest way one could call someone a "fucking asshole"

BIGrack HOOSein Obama (k3vin k.), Friday, 23 January 2009 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i mean hes no taylor saporito

roxymuzak, Friday, 23 January 2009 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link

who thought i owed him an apology for "making it personal"

roxymuzak, Friday, 23 January 2009 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link

friend?? haha

Local Garda, Saturday, 24 January 2009 23:58 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.myspace.com/zimmermanbrain

let's not forget these glorious indie masterpieces from Taylor Saporito

Plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 25 January 2009 01:32 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.myspace.com/zimmermanbrain

let's not forget these glorious indie masterpieces from Taylor Saporito

Plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 25 January 2009 01:32 (fifteen years ago) link

stupid internet

Plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 25 January 2009 01:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Is it much to admit I need
A solid soul and the blood I bleed
With a little girl, and by my spouse
I only want a proper house

I don't care for fancy things
Or to take part in a precious race
And children cry for the one who has
A real big heart and a father's grace

I don't mean to seem like I care about material things like a social status
I just want four walls and adobe slabs for my girls

Zeno, Monday, 26 January 2009 00:06 (fifteen years ago) link

straight·for·ward

1. Proceeding in a straight course; direct.
2.
a. Not circuitous or evasive; honest and frank. See Synonyms at frank1.
b. Free from ambiguity or pretense; plain and open.
adv.
In a direct course or an honest manner.

Zeno, Monday, 26 January 2009 00:10 (fifteen years ago) link

I take back everything bad I ever said about Animal Collective. This album is tremendous.

Mordy, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 06:38 (fifteen years ago) link

why do you like it so much mordy

jordy (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 06:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, for one thing I find it much more memorable, more hooky, and more -- poppy? than their other albums (and side projects). So it's actually a joy to listen to the music. And once I can get into the frame of a song, I can start to appreciate all the other sonic stuff that's going on. So "Summertime Clothes" sounds drenched in water, and when they sing "I don't mean to seem I care about material things" on "My Girls," I both love the lyrics (which are, FBOFW, key for me), but also love the way his voice moves around the lyrics.

I think what's really distinguished this album for me from their other output is that it's immediately accessible on a very - what Frank might call - a free lunch level, and then it builds on that for me. But there's a place for me to start. By contrast, with Person Pitch, I felt like I was just banging my head against these monoliths over and over again without making any headway. I need some 'in' before I can start to love everything else -- and I really love everything else with this album too. But as elaboration.

Not sure if this makes total sense. If not, I'll try to figure out my reactions to this album better.

Mordy, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 06:50 (fifteen years ago) link

no, i get what you mean with the 'in' song. preson pitch is my fav thing related to them by a considerable distance, but it took me a while to get into too. once "carrots" hit me, i was able to love the rest.
as for this one, i really like "in the flowers" a lot, but i can't seem to connect with another song to the same extent. i used to really love the old live version of "brother sport" too, but i'm not feeling this new, aired out album track

BIGrack HOOSein Obama (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 06:55 (fifteen years ago) link

I think my favorite three tracks are My Girls, Summertime Clothes, and Bluish. The last almost entirely for the "curls" section.

Mordy, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 06:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, I got new speakers tonight, and that might've made a huge difference since they are the warmest sounding sound system I've ever used in my living room.

Mordy, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 08:03 (fifteen years ago) link

does anyone know how many copies this sold in its first week?

Bee OK, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 04:08 (fifteen years ago) link

hang on let me log in to soundscan

gr8080, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 08:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Merriweather Post Pavilion - 5,567,987 units

gr8080, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 09:04 (fifteen years ago) link

lil wayne cameos carry weight grady!

jordy (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 09:07 (fifteen years ago) link

5.5 million!? wow...

willem, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 09:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes. That statistic is completely real and factual.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 14:01 (fifteen years ago) link

does anyone know how many copies this sold in its first week?

― Bee OK, Tuesday, January 27, 2009 11:08 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I read on another board that it will debut at #13 with 25,000 units sold. No idea if that is true, though.

mizzell, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

new song (sky) and lion in a coma live on the bbc
http://www.bansheebeat.com/ac/Stuart%20Maconies%20Freak%20Zone,%20BBC%206%20-%2025.01.2009/

mizzell, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Also scoring career-best numbers is Animal Collective with the Domino album "Merriweather Post Pavilion." The project lands at No. 13 with 25,000; it debuted at No. 38 two weeks ago on the Top Independent Albums chart purely on vinyl sales.

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/taylor-swift-album-starts-eighth-week-at-1003935143.story

mizzell, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I was kind of disappointed when I finally heard "Summertime Clothes" on the album. I'd heard it live, and the marching bassy stomp present in the verses approximates what they did live. Avey yelled on the chorus, though, and the instruments and bass (especially the bass) were pushed hard on that part. I liked the song a lot especially for that peaky part, so the version on the album wasn't as exhilarating when it gets to the refrain. It's still a great song, but it was the one instance I could pick something out on the album as too polished.

throwbookatface (skygreenleopard), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link

There's a live version on the end of the album as purchased from iTunes; I actually far prefer the studio one.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 22:46 (fifteen years ago) link

I had a dream last night these guys were recording their new album in my apartment and Avey was like the most disgusting houseguest ever. High all the time, spilling shit all over me, constantly doing that yelping thing he does.

Clay, Thursday, 29 January 2009 01:25 (fifteen years ago) link

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3187/3083240768_f9a88f7bab_b.jpg

gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2009 01:28 (fifteen years ago) link

exactly.

Clay, Thursday, 29 January 2009 01:29 (fifteen years ago) link

^ never gets old.

Millsner, Thursday, 29 January 2009 01:54 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.jefframirez.com/ilx/tuomasclub.jpg

Big $$$ (jeff), Thursday, 29 January 2009 02:20 (fifteen years ago) link

never gets old.

gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2009 02:26 (fifteen years ago) link

12. Andrew Bird Noble Beast 25, 700
13. Animal Collective Merriweather Post Pavilion 24,700

when did Andrew Bird become so popular?

Bee OK, Thursday, 29 January 2009 02:50 (fifteen years ago) link

ask the nyt

jordy (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 29 January 2009 03:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, the Bird placing baffles me a little too. I figured he'd be back in the 40s or 50s somewhere.

Millsner, Thursday, 29 January 2009 05:23 (fifteen years ago) link

These guys wear sixties mysticism really well. They made a personal playlist/"mixtape" for a website not too long ago and so many of the band's selections were late sixties and early seventies album cuts from bands that, for a long time, were stigmatized with the "hippie" label (Mama's and the Papa's, Joni Mitchell covers, Cat Stevens, The Byrds circa Notorious B.B, "Tomorrow Never Knows," etc). Their sound encompasses much more than just that genre of rock but their attitude and aesthetic seems to be very firmly grounded in the sixties, and the mysticism and Eastern spiritualism that was in close proximity (Just look at the band's name).

Also, there's that hippie aesthetic of "This isn't a simple chorus or a hook, we're singing this part of the song like it a religious mantra, or a chant, guys" in a lot of AC music, along with another hippie-rock gimmick: hypnotizing loops and sounds that are meant to induce something in-between a glazed-eye and a spiritual rebirth. It's a mindset that's all over the music they put on the aforementioned online playlist. People often times just associate psychedelia with the surrealism, radicalism and the drug use of the era, almost always neglecting or underemphasizing the neo-Theosophic influence that was overtaking youth culture. The way the Beatles' went into some sort of Eastern chant at the end of "Hello, Goodbye" was probably just as shocking and revolutionary to most Western youths as a lot of the oddball stuff on "I Am The Walrus." With Animal Collective I'm reminded of the "rock music as an Eastern religious experience," style that was stamped on so many sixties records and then went away. When AC is at their best I think that's one of the things that sets them apart from so many other sixties-loving bands - they way they internalize the spiritual aspect of the music they love, and not just the superficial exterior. Now whether these guys are actually "let's go sleep in the fields" mystics themselves is beside the point, the point is just that they've managed to capture that element from their original influences and I can hear it in their music.

Cunga, Thursday, 29 January 2009 05:42 (fifteen years ago) link

I should also point out that before he died in the early '90s Timothy Leary was raving about the potential of "the internet" and how it'd change everything. So...

Timothy Leary championing acid>Magical Mystery Tour>LARGE GAP>Timothy Leary championing the internet>Pitchfork Media>Blogs>???>Animal Collective

The links are becoming ever more clear.

Cunga, Thursday, 29 January 2009 05:51 (fifteen years ago) link

The thread has worn its welcome out/
Before the record did.

M.V., Thursday, 29 January 2009 06:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Timothy Leary championing acid>Magical Mystery Tour>LARGE GAP>Timothy Leary championing the internet>Pitchfork Media>Blogs>???>Animal Collective

most o_O timeline i've ever seen

all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Thursday, 29 January 2009 08:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't know about the hippie think but some AC stuff recalls Nirvana for me. 'For Reverend Green' especially. But the use of repetition in particular is very reminiscent of what Cobain did.

Mister Craig, Saturday, 31 January 2009 09:52 (fifteen years ago) link

I bought this album the other day and listened to it a few times

it's okay I guess but seems kind of flat and snoozy until the last 3 tracks

Feels and Strawberry Jam and Person Pitch and Water Curses all had interesting textures + memorable melodies; this has the cool textures but I can't remember any of the songs once it's over

last night I fell asleep listening to Stars of the Lid on my stereo. this record was in the 4th slot of my 5-CD changer. I woke up in the middle of it and couldn't figure out what was going on at all. like, I knew I was listening to the new Animal Collective record, but the sounds didn't seem to be following any kind of logic. this actually made me a lot more curious about the album.

georgeous gorge (bernard snowy), Saturday, 31 January 2009 13:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Andrew Bird's previous record has sold more than 100K...that chart placement isn't so unusual.

scottpl, Saturday, 31 January 2009 14:57 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

bump

Bee OK, Sunday, 22 February 2009 06:41 (fifteen years ago) link

why?

Mordy, Sunday, 22 February 2009 06:43 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

lol (roxymuzak), Sunday, 22 February 2009 06:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Animal Collective

Bonobos in Paneradise (Hurting 2), Sunday, 22 February 2009 06:47 (fifteen years ago) link

why?

Bonobos in Paneradise (Hurting 2), Sunday, 22 February 2009 06:47 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

Bonobos in Paneradise (Hurting 2), Sunday, 22 February 2009 06:47 (fifteen years ago) link

hahaha

lol (roxymuzak), Sunday, 22 February 2009 06:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Hahah I had been tempted to revive this thread with a 'well that all died out pretty quickly then.'

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 22 February 2009 07:03 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw Avey Tare* on the Subway. He had some newly purchased records and a weird-looking bundle of blankets or clothing.

*I could not actually identify him on sight as Avey Tare, I just recognized him as "I think that might be the guy from Animal Collective."

Bonobos in Paneradise (Hurting 2), Sunday, 22 February 2009 07:05 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't know if it's just the mp3s i have or if these guys actually have no low end at all, but in any case they are way too in love with that upper-middle treble range. all that wind-in-the-willows babbling-brook shit, they need something on the bottom to keep it from just all washing away.

and i know that's the range they've always worked in, and i liked it early on when it was more clattery and less precious, but even the clattery stuff now to me seems wispy. it's like being assaulted by eggbeaters.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 22 February 2009 07:23 (fifteen years ago) link

I can't deal with them. I keep trying (have been since Sung Tongs) but they just sound awful to me, they give me a headache inside seconds, and as much as I want to like them from all the descriptions, the reality doesn't have the melodies, hooks, or rhythms I feel like I've been promised. The last Panda Bear record was much more tolerable, but still... so thin, so irritating. My antipathy for them is so deep that I actually can't understand why anyone else would like them at all, which is pretty rare for me.

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 22 February 2009 09:35 (fifteen years ago) link

this got released on emusic last week by mistake

abanana, Sunday, 22 February 2009 09:41 (fifteen years ago) link

The last Panda Bear record was much more tolerable - to my ears this record is ultimately the logical conclusion (or next step, let's hope) of the sound cultivated on the Panda Bear record, so I can't really understand the basis of differentiation.

2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Sunday, 22 February 2009 10:30 (fifteen years ago) link

*of = "for"

2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Sunday, 22 February 2009 10:33 (fifteen years ago) link

The last Panda Bear is much less demanding of attention, much more low-key; it's earworms rather than bangers, it's amniotic rather than lysergic, it flows above you like liquid rather than flapping right in your face like a giant, colourful butterfly that's too close to see properly. It's still insubstantial, still all about treble, still laden with nasty vocal affects, yes, but it's not as keen to have your undivided attention.

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 22 February 2009 12:40 (fifteen years ago) link

sheesh

lol (roxymuzak), Sunday, 22 February 2009 12:57 (fifteen years ago) link

??

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 22 February 2009 13:00 (fifteen years ago) link

it's earworms rather than bangers - fair enough Mouthy, but I'll bet that "My Girls" sounds like Jesus shitting gold doubloons when played through your ultrapremium hi-fi gadgetry.

2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Sunday, 22 February 2009 13:11 (fifteen years ago) link

yes, i bet it sounds like a fancy version of shit

lol (roxymuzak), Sunday, 22 February 2009 13:13 (fifteen years ago) link

lol, but Jesus shits miracles.

2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Sunday, 22 February 2009 13:15 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe don't involve shit if you're trying to describe something good

lol (roxymuzak), Sunday, 22 February 2009 13:17 (fifteen years ago) link

thank you, I will hence refrain from using the phrase "good shit," lest I be mistaken for a coprophiliac.

2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Sunday, 22 February 2009 13:24 (fifteen years ago) link

i think with the above descriptions, nick's safely worked out why people like it and doesn't like it for those exact reasons. i kind of like the "butterfly" analogy and that's why i like a lot of the recent stuff at least. it's like looking at a jigsaw puzzle piece and trying to work out what the rest of the picture would look like i guess.

the next grozart, Sunday, 22 February 2009 13:29 (fifteen years ago) link

.. or a Cornershop fan.

2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Sunday, 22 February 2009 13:31 (fifteen years ago) link

this is weird because I agree with Nick that the last Panda Bear record was completely different from MPP, to the point where I am genuinely confused that people attempt to compare them; unlike him, however, I also really liked the last few 'proper' Animal Collective albums, making it doubly surprising that MPP does nothing for me.

if you like it then you shoulda put a donk on it (bernard snowy), Sunday, 22 February 2009 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't know if it's just the mp3

CLASSIC, 2009

Adam Bruneau, Sunday, 22 February 2009 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link

The sound is quite similar, but the emotional tone is different. Some of Person Pitch sounds distressed or even mournful.

M.V., Sunday, 22 February 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link

I. Love. This.

― Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, January 21, 2009 7:54 PM (1 month ago)

One month on, I'd go as far as to say I absolutely adore this album. Despite what Nick says above, all I hear are hooks and melodies; hooks upon hooks, melodies upon melodies. I really can't imagine ever tiring of listening to it.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Sunday, 22 February 2009 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link

In contrast I have to offer my experience of it forcing me to flee Amoeba Records when I reencountered it again. Three tracks in over their PA system and I surrendered, finished shopping and left before it drove me crazier.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 22 February 2009 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link

I love how divisive this album is among people with otherwise (seemingly) similar tastes.

2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Sunday, 22 February 2009 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes: I've given up being surprised about that now. So when I met up with an old pal and gig-going companion of many years in the pub last night and said: "Oh, listen, you'll love the new Animal Collective" and he winced and told me he couldn't fucking bear it, it wasn't a shock at all.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Sunday, 22 February 2009 18:47 (fifteen years ago) link

i told an old pal the exact opposite of that at an excellent juana molina show last night. he's been out of the country awhile and missed out on the whole lol rickroll and then merry christmas day leak. it's all been a nice distraction during some seriously fucking bleak times

kamerad, Sunday, 22 February 2009 22:50 (fifteen years ago) link

If I understand correctly, then, you're pro-Juana and anti-Collective?

M.V., Sunday, 22 February 2009 23:41 (fifteen years ago) link

pro-juana and pro-collective

kamerad, Monday, 23 February 2009 00:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Thank you, Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy). What you said.

Oh, Bevis and I thought you were so rugged, Monday, 23 February 2009 01:16 (fifteen years ago) link

MPP II: the backlash - A+, would backlash again

welcome little swetty (contenderizer), Monday, 23 February 2009 02:00 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't know if it's just the mp3s i have or if these guys actually have no low end at all, but in any case they are way too in love with that upper-middle treble range. all that wind-in-the-willows babbling-brook shit, they need something on the bottom to keep it from just all washing away.

and i know that's the range they've always worked in, and i liked it early on when it was more clattery and less precious, but even the clattery stuff now to me seems wispy. it's like being assaulted by eggbeaters.

― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:23 PM

It absolutely must be the mp3s. I listen to the CD in the car and it's a trunk-rattling affair.

DJ Mr. Face Stabba, M.D. (Whitey on the Moon), Monday, 23 February 2009 04:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Nick Southall OTM. That's all I'll say about this record for now (apart from the fact it does *absolutely* zilch for me barring, say, "In The Flowers", with its (the record's) prevailing air of not entirely disagreeable if thoroughly surface-level "look at the pretty colours!" burblement, an array of bright (monotonously so; EVERYTHING is spangled) clothes strung out on a linear washing-line). We can wait for the dismal rush of year-end plaudits to rouse any actual ire.

I want sprinkles (country matters), Monday, 23 February 2009 08:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I guess I think they could've profitably shaved about ten minutes off the album.

(Cue response from Ned: "I guess I think they could've profitably shaved about fifty-two minutes off the album.")

M.V., Monday, 23 February 2009 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh why stop there, a full hour. Negative time.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 February 2009 19:35 (fifteen years ago) link

fuck, this is an album of flabby time. of leaving your watch at the door. Of irresistible washes of Kompakt Pop Ambient interrupted with shrieks and washes of sound I can't really hate this album considering I waited so long for it. I kind of love it, for all its obvious arrival at this point, for all its obvious balearic chanting shouting sampladelic arrival. for the way it makes the journey from sung tongs to feels resolve, for the way the bass bows out of brothersport and the vocals dip and swerve and everything goes blue.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 23 February 2009 23:19 (fifteen years ago) link

you could take the whole thinga away and you'd be missing the point, the point is those flabby expanses of wasted time, of swerving peaks and long days filled with sunshine and no reason to go home.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 23 February 2009 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link

and you'd be missing the point.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 23 February 2009 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Or I could just listen to something else I actually liked. :-D Which I will do!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 February 2009 23:43 (fifteen years ago) link

That does sound like fun! : )

Plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link

My Girls sounds quite like The Tough Alliance :)

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 23:36 (fifteen years ago) link

liking this but i also want a bonus version that takes all of the main vocals off and replaces them with fatter drums :/

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 23:58 (fifteen years ago) link

wow this album sounds bad on mac speakers

Plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link

How the hell can Nick and I be on the same page about anything.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 00:04 (fifteen years ago) link

wow this album sounds bad on mac speakers

yes it does. like there's tin cans caught in the fanbelt. (i know macs don't actually have fanbelts, but if they did.)

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 00:21 (fifteen years ago) link

You guys must be using old Macs -- it sounds great on my two month old MacBook!

ilxor, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 00:26 (fifteen years ago) link

my macbook is a year old. but i don't really think the problem's with the speakers. i think animal collective just sounds like tin cans caught in a fan belt.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 00:28 (fifteen years ago) link

"I kind of love it, for all its obvious arrival at this point"

yep, makes me wonder how the next record will sound.

so i see this thread is in the big backlash phase..
this record will be more objectively appreciated from 2010 and forward, when all the buzz will eventually end.
in the meantime, i think it's good, not as good as feels/sung,but still

Zeno, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 00:29 (fifteen years ago) link

sort of understand the perception that this is a treble/midrange album with no low end. though there's a big bass pulse in a lot of tunes, it often sounds grafted on, like a decorative afterthought. also, though i liked MPP a lot up front, i'm finding that it doesn't reveal much beyond what it first gives away. not a record of unexpected depths (despite the promo art). this isn't a complaint so much as an observation -- i still like it, but i suspect people will be a lot less enthusiastic about it by year's end.

welcome little swetty (contenderizer), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 00:50 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah the brightness of their sound didn't bug me as much on feels for some reason, and i really actually like the skittery quality of some of the older stuff. but on this one it seems overdone to me.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 01:17 (fifteen years ago) link

all the reasons for the question: what happend to AC in this record? are in My Girls lyrics

Zeno, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 01:20 (fifteen years ago) link

so i see this thread is in the big backlash phase..

This leaves 10 months for the counter-backlash to take hold before the 2009 best-of poll.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 25 February 2009 01:47 (fifteen years ago) link

saw these guys live last night. they sounded tired, i felt old.

sonderangerbot, Friday, 6 March 2009 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link

i hope they're bored of playing the same songs over and over again. i like this album more and more every time i listen to it, but it's about time they change it up

HPSCHD, Friday, 6 March 2009 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw them last week and was blown away. I like the new album fine, but seeing them live made me like it more.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Saturday, 7 March 2009 02:26 (fifteen years ago) link

it's about time they change it up

Why, are you seeing them at every show?

I'm rather looking forward to the "tired" setlist with all the "hits" as it's rather unusual for them to do.

ilxor, Saturday, 7 March 2009 22:28 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Anyone see them last night in London?

It was like seeing Ozric Tentacles at a free festival, they should have gotten The Enid to support.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 09:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah.
Thought they were pretty great. Esp start, Lion in a Coma into My Girls, into Summertime Clothes. Pretty much loved it, but never seen them before so don't know if this was their 'usual' kind of show or not.

pandemic, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 14:26 (fifteen years ago) link

I woz there!

It was great, but again, I'd never seen them before and only know a couple of the records.

I get yr Ozrics ref. It kind of reminded me of seeing the Orb in 1992, but I think that was just the giant glowing white globe suspended above the stage.

Anyway, it was WAY more electronic than I was expecting (although I shouldn't have been surprised) and there were just great chest-shaking bass whoomps everywhere and loads more reverb and FX on the vocals than on record. Just totally exhilerating disorientating stuff.

Shame the crowd were so diffident.

Jamie T Smith, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 14:36 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

so I finally got to spend some time with this record, I was out of the country during the whole leak/hype/rickroll merriment and too busy to listen during the backlash phase. I like it more than Strawberery Jam for sure, but it all seems downhill after Summertime Clothes because it is front loaded like crazy. The jew's harp on Lion In A Coma is questionable, the last song is like an AC parody, and daddy issues recur throughout, but the first four tracks make it all worthwhile.

sleeve, Saturday, 11 April 2009 06:39 (fifteen years ago) link

oh, youre just in phase one.thats not the end of the story:
wait till you get tired of track 1-4, than discover the middle section of the record and think it's great,and than (phase 3) get tired of the whole thing and neglect it till next year, when youll miss it again.

Zeno, Saturday, 11 April 2009 06:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I dunno 'bout that but I will certainly continue to throw the record on for a while to come. No More Running is also v nice, I think the rest of the record is way stronger than SJ. I'm not sure what I think about the whole low end issue discussed above.

sleeve, Saturday, 11 April 2009 06:58 (fifteen years ago) link

"also, though i liked MPP a lot up front, i'm finding that it doesn't reveal much beyond what it first gives away. not a record of unexpected depths"

kinda otm

Zeno, Saturday, 11 April 2009 07:06 (fifteen years ago) link

it all seems downhill after Summertime Clothes because it is front loaded like crazy

I agree generally, but track 5 is the album's best so no way does it go downhill after "Summertime Clothes," not quite yet.

Strawberry Jam highly underrated, btw.

ilxor, Sunday, 12 April 2009 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link

"bluish" grows on you after a few listens, once the very wilson boys vocal harmony in the chorus bridge sinks in. that is a gateway song to zeno's phase 2

kamerad, Sunday, 12 April 2009 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link

i dont know how i feel about the "doesnt reveal much beyong what it first gives away" comment(s). every song is so god-damned layered and dense i'm constantly discovering new aspects of a beat or melody that had hitherto gone unnoticed (or at the very elast unappreciated). most of the melodies are really accessible it's true but they're hard to get bored of, and my favourites are constantly shifting positions.

samosa gibreel, Monday, 13 April 2009 03:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't care much for Reynolds' music taste, for the larger part, and I find some of his thoughts muddled with nonsense ("black capitalism" as an economic theory in a discussion about Motown?) but his article on AC reminds me of his article on Vampire Weekend: thought provoking and insightful, even if I think he's possibly reading too far into things at times.

What I enjoy about Simon Reynolds is that he's always got a theory for why something is happening in music. No dots are ever left unconnected.

Cunga, Monday, 13 April 2009 06:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I quite enjoyed reading that article, and I think he makes some interesting and relevant points about middlebrow, etc.

But MPP is still fucking horrific.

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 13 April 2009 07:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Comments on that article way better than the article itself...

stoddy

06 Feb 09, 12:25pm

Jesus Christ - this is one of the most tedious, pretentious and pointless pieces of drivel i've seen appear on the Gruniad's music blog. Turgid, unappetising fare and the sound very clearly of one man disappearing happily up his own arse. Rather like Animal Collective in fact...

uncannydan, Monday, 13 April 2009 13:36 (fifteen years ago) link

another classic...

fakeycakemaker

07 Feb 09, 11:54am

I find it plain funny how Reynolds' stock as an alternative music journalist is just based upon his anxieties from a mid-class, record collecting, obscurist p.o.v over the popularity of a band....he always comes back to the bourgeois experience of listening and watching music as some all encompassing envelope, and it's both interesting and very dull how this gets him nowhere, only repeating the stereotype of the (male) artist in a perpetual child like state of "creativity"

uncannydan, Monday, 13 April 2009 14:01 (fifteen years ago) link

aren't Animal Collective, strictly speaking, emerging reborn from their own arses.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 13 April 2009 14:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Are there going to be any remixes of "My Girls"?

I am using your worlds, Monday, 13 April 2009 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Does it really need a remix? A coworker of mine was at a recent Prodigy gig and he said that Busy P opened and played "My Girls" as if it were, "just another banger".

uncannydan, Monday, 13 April 2009 15:13 (fifteen years ago) link

i know Hatchmatik did a remix, for one. but i agree with uncannydan; it's pretty unnecessary.

myndbloom, Monday, 13 April 2009 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link

mizzell, Monday, 13 April 2009 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link

i approve of that experiment

yes threads (country matters), Monday, 13 April 2009 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link

because I am poor and lazy I am just listening to it now and it is good. probably their best yet (altho I haven't heard Strawberry Jam).

This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 13 April 2009 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link

don't forget that you're also old

the sultan of ban (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 April 2009 21:35 (fifteen years ago) link

right. I forgot. alzheimer's, you know.

This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 13 April 2009 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link

if sick mouthy is against it then it is probably great and the converse is also true.

keythkeythkeyth, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 03:25 (fifteen years ago) link

i approve of that experiment

seconded. that's how I always hoped animal collective sounded.

m the g, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 09:41 (fifteen years ago) link

My issue with Reynolds' article (and the general response to MPP) is that I really don't see this as a breakthrough album for them. To me it sounds like Animal Collective doing what Animal Collective have been doing since 'Feels' - watery eliptical psychedelia with interesting melodic and rhythmic textures and varying the level on the tuneful/experimental rock/noise/dance continuum. It's not a 'Kid A' or even a 'Sung Tongs' (which, along with most of the pre-'Feels' era AC, works as an individual album concept in its own right).
I don't see why MPP is any more commercial nor critically worthy than Feels, Strawberry Jam or anything else they've released since 2005, it's just a continuation of the sound they seem to have settled into.

the next grozart, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 11:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Feels towers above SJ and MPP imo.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 11:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Comments on that article way better than the article itself...

catpiano

09 Feb 09, 2:42am

Luckily music critics of the ILM variety are easily ignored, since music blogs have made them outdated (and many are run by much more knowledgeable people, besides). Now all that is left for them are these petty and laughable forays into dumbed-down cultural criticism. In a few years all of this garbage will cease to exist and these people will write for free or be forced to get real jobs.

Ahem.

ecuador_with_a_c, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 13:02 (fifteen years ago) link

you know he or she is right.

uncannydan, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 13:31 (fifteen years ago) link

you know he or she isn't making any sense at all.

the next grozart, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 14:27 (fifteen years ago) link

http://imgboot.com/images/moullet/acconanwb7.jpg

best closed caption ever?

moullet, Thursday, 16 April 2009 05:37 (fifteen years ago) link

so sad to admit ilm time somewhere besides ilm

kamerad, Thursday, 16 April 2009 06:05 (fifteen years ago) link

I've decided to start listening to this properly now, and while I don't think it's as interesting and diverse as pre-Feels work, it's definitely the most consistently great of all their later stuff. I think I got about 8 tracks in and realised I'd enjoyed every track so far, while most AC albums no matter how great have a few clunkers.

the next grozart, Thursday, 16 April 2009 10:58 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Did anyone else here manage to order the Animal Crack Box? I think I was just lucky as I saw the e-mail from fusetron popping in and ordered. At least, I think I'm lucky, since I seem to have paid for it already. Their website now says this, not surprisingly:

Artist: ANIMAL COLLECTIVE
Title: Animal Crack Box
Format: 3 LP Box Set
Label: Catsup Plate
Country: USA
Price: $92.00

***DUE TO OVERWHELMING DEMAND WE HAVE SUSPENDED TAKING ORDERS UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. IT WILL TAKE A DAY OR TWO TO SORT OUT ALL THE ORDERS UP TO THIS POINT. IF THERE ARE ANY COPIES LEFT WE WILL ANNOUNCE IT ON THE NEXT EMAIL UPDATE. THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR THEIR ENTHUSIASM***

Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link

"just lucky"

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link

What is on it:

*Artist: ANIMAL COLLECTIVE
Title: Animal Crack Box
Format: 3LP box set
Label: Catsup Plate
Country: USA
Price: $92.00

IF YOU ARE ORDERING JUST THE ANIMAL COLLECTIVE BOX SET GO HERE < http://www.fusetronsound.com/crackBox.html > FOR
AUTOMATED PAYPAL LINKS

***LIMIT ONE PER CUSTOMER***

"After almost three years of planning Catsup Plate is proud to announce the release of Animal Crack Box, a three LP collection of Animal Collective recordings spanning the years 2000 through 2003. These songs were recorded live, at practice sessions and in other non-studio environs and most have never been released in any form whatsoever. And those that have been release sound so markedly different that long-time fans will not be disappointed. Throughout their career, Animal Collective has existed at the crossroads of uncompromising experimentalism, classic song structure and ecstatic expressionism -- a crossroads that this set further underscores. The songs veer from the early percussion/feedback wailings to the Campfire Songs style acoustica to wall of sound forest children vocal chanting. The sonics are rough in places as these were originally recorded more for reference than for an actual release, but the power of the songs and the bands uncompromising intensity are apparent all the way through. Fans of the bands recent work may be surprised by the cacophony at times, but peel away the layers of sound and the essential compositional and performative brilliance is staring you in the face.
Each record jacket is silkscreened in four overprinted colors and housed in a super sturdy four overprinted color silkscreened outer slipcase held together by a two color silkscreened "obi" strip. This thing is a 12 x 12 brick. The recording selections were overseen by Animal Collective themselves, who poured over hundreds of hours of tapes to come up with this tracklisting. The Hieronymus-Bosch-meets-the-early-Looney-Tunes-work-of-Max-Fleischer illustrations were drawn by Jon Vermilyea and the whole package was art directed and designed by Rob Carmichael. This is a single edition of 1000 copies, with no digital or CD version planned." - Catsup Plate.

Tracklisting:

A1. Jimmy Raven
A2. Ahhh Good Country
A3. Iko Ovo

A1 and A2 recorded live to MiniDisc 18 September 2000 at the Cooler, NYC by Avey/Panda. A3 recorded live to MiniDisc fall 2000 at N. 4th Practice Space, Brooklyn by Avey/Panda.

B1. Pumpkin Gets a Snakebite
B2. Pumpkins Hallucination
B3. Pumpkins Funeral

B1 and B3 recorded live to MiniDisc February 2001 at N. 4th Practice Space, Brooklyn by Avey/Panda/Geologist. B2 recorded live to MiniDisc 25 February 2001 at Mercury Lounge, NYC by Avey/Panda/Geologist.

C1. Jungle Heat
C2. Hey Friend
C3. De Soto De Son

C1 and C2 recorded live to MiniDisc winter early 2001 at 67 Atlantic Ave, Brooklyn by Avey/Panda. C3 recorded live to MiniDisc August 2000 at Mercury Lounge, NYC by Avey/Panda.

D1. Oh Sweet
D2. Young Prayer #2
D3. Do the Nurse

D1 partly recorded live to MiniDisc summer 2002 at N. 4th Practice Space, Brooklyn by Avey/Deakin and partly recorded live to MiniDisc 18 October 2002 at Warsaw, Brooklyn by Avey. D2 recorded live to MiniDisc fall 2002 at Bard College, NYC by Avey/Panda. D3 recorded live to MiniDisc 18 October 2002 at Warsaw, Brooklyn by Avey.

E1. Ice Cream Factory
E2. Hey Light
E3. Two Sails

E1 and E3 recorded live to MiniDisc March 2002 at Tonic, NYC by Avey/ Panda/Geologist/Deakin. E2 recorded live to MiniDisc winter early 2002 at N. 4th Practice Space, Brooklyn by Avey/Panda/Geologist/Deakin.

F1. Dont Believe the Pilot
F2. Who Could Win a Rabbit
F3. Mouth Wooed Her
F4. Covered in Frogs
F5. We Tigers

F1 and F2 recorded live to MiniDisc July 2003 at New World Brewery, Tampa, FL by Avey/Panda. F3 recorded live to MiniDisc June 2003 at a house party in Brooklyn by Avey/Panda. F4 recorded live to MiniDisc sometime and somewhere in 2003 (recording details are lost) by Avey/Panda. F5 recorded live to MiniDisc October 2003 at Concorde 2, Brighton, UK by Avey/Panda.

Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:18 (fifteen years ago) link

xp Haa, I expected that pun to arrive here, yet not as soon as this :)

Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link

You could not describe a boxset that I would have less interest in hearing than this one.

Mordy, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link

i can describe one: a six box CD set of Animal Collective discussing the ins and outs of "Animal Crack Box," their new multiple CD box set

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm surprised the Lex isn't on this already to declare the very same, yet in more denouncing language.

Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:21 (fifteen years ago) link

See, that I'd have about the same lack of interest in hearing, but not necessarily less. I think this boxset hits the lowest possible point on my caring-about scale.

Mordy, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Mr. Que: I'll gladly take it on myself to create that box set for you! It will cost you dearly though. $92 isn't gonna cut it.

Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link

The thing is, tho, I like MPP. But this boxset looks like everything I dislike about AC. I'm not just denouncing them in broad terms. I'm saying that they need to shy away from releasing their unfinished live crap and work harder at teh tunez.

Mordy, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link

F2. Who Could Win a Rabbit
F3. Mouth Wooed Her
F4. Covered in Frogs

B1. Pumpkin Gets a Snakebite
B2. Pumpkins Hallucination
B3. Pumpkins Funeral

Looks like a winner!

Mordy, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link

"Fans of the bands recent work may be surprised by the cacophony at times, but peel away the layers of sound and the essential compositional and performative brilliance is staring you in the face."

"This might sound to you like it sucks, but trust us. Its performative brilliance is staring you in the face."

Mordy, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm not sure: MPP went from brilliant to mediocre to me fast. I'm actually anxious to hear more of the, erhm, 'spontaneous' side of their music-making - like the earlier albums - than the polished sound MPP displays.

xp

Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:26 (fifteen years ago) link

The thing is, tho, I like MPP. But this boxset looks like everything I dislike about AC. I'm not just denouncing them in broad terms. I'm saying that they need to shy away from releasing their unfinished live crap and work harder at teh tunez.

I'd rather they spent the rest of their days making handsome box sets if it kept them out of the studio.

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:29 (fifteen years ago) link

hey this only covers till 2003, they've gotta have like 2 more box sets in em by now amirite?

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:30 (fifteen years ago) link

that stuff is pretty widely bootlegged already (maybe not the early showings of the Feels stuff), so perhaps not as much point (laugh if you must) as this one.

As a fairly obsessive fan, I'm glad this sold out before I knew about it, because seeing it available when I really don't have the money would've been plain annoying.

Ralph, Waldo, Emerson, Lake & Palmer (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 20:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Kinda think animal collective's unreleased crap and live etc.s are their best work fyi

❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't know how i feel about what I assume is a pun on "crack rocks"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link

So we're saying this 1000 copy only release is of interest to only hardcore fans then?

Dingy Boat McCrap Crap (Mister Craig), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 01:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't know. Are we?

Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 01:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't know how i feel about what I assume is a pun on "crack rocks"

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, May 12, 2009 6:20 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

i thought it was a pun on animal crackers

man, i love collages (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 01:44 (fifteen years ago) link

god what a boring band

totally dude (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 01:52 (fifteen years ago) link

"After almost three years of planning Catsup Plate is proud to announce the release of Animal Crack Box...

... This is a single edition of 1000 copies, with no digital or CD version planned."

So, what exactly is the point in planning a 3 LP box set for three years, having it be hyped over and over the past few months, only for it to sell out in less than 24 hours -- before fans who are interested, but not obsessively online all the time, can purchase it?

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 02:13 (fifteen years ago) link

so they can charge $92 for some remixes of Panda Bear flushing a toilet

totally dude (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 02:24 (fifteen years ago) link

So, what exactly is the point in planning a 3 LP box set for three years, having it be hyped over and over the past few months, only for it to sell out in less than 24 hours -- before fans who are interested, but not obsessively online all the time, can purchase it?

You don't understand how the internet works do you?

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 04:00 (fifteen years ago) link

:'(

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 04:54 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm powerfully behind Curt1s on this one. This strikes me as a genius scam by a very mediocre band.

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 07:18 (fifteen years ago) link

all of us who love this album (and this band) are total dupes. hope we see the light some day

kamerad, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 07:41 (fifteen years ago) link

i hope you do too

lex pretend, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 08:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Animal Collective has existed at the crossroads of uncompromising experimentalism, classic song structure and ecstatic expressionism

no

The songs veer from the early percussion/feedback wailings to the Campfire Songs style acoustica to wall of sound forest children vocal chanting

aiiii this sounds painful

The sonics are rough in places

what rougher than usual? surely impossible

Fans of the bands recent work may be surprised by the cacophony at times

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

this entire thing is hilarious, from those dumb titles to the dumb press release it's exactly what you'd imagine a parody of animal collective to be

lex pretend, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 08:13 (fifteen years ago) link

much as i will pedestalise the 'collective, i mean you have to be a bit "special" to even want to listen to hollindagain all the way through more than once, so shelling out for a triple-album of atonal acoustic guitar strumming and inhuman grunts and shrieks is pushing it.

the next grozart, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 08:18 (fifteen years ago) link

more like animal collection plate

man, i love collages (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 08:20 (fifteen years ago) link

lolololol good one *high fives*

the next grozart, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 08:34 (fifteen years ago) link

YEAH

the insane Dr. Morbius and his HOOSical steens (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 08:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh man J0rdan... epic high five.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 12:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't know how i feel about what I assume is a pun on "crack rocks"

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:20 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol you really cant think of anything else this could be a pun on

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 13:38 (fifteen years ago) link

you gonna clue us in, maximillion q punnington?

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 14:15 (fifteen years ago) link

"animal crack"... hmmmm......

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 14:26 (fifteen years ago) link

it's still a pun on the word "crack"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 14:29 (fifteen years ago) link

yes

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 14:31 (fifteen years ago) link

which is dumb.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 14:32 (fifteen years ago) link

sigh

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 14:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Tonight on Crossfire.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 14:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Ned Ragg Box

man, i love collages (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 14:34 (fifteen years ago) link

i mean, i'm not going to say it's SUPER OFFENSIVE or anything, but i'm always little creeped out by middle class white dudes like AC and Moldy Peaches having hahas over something that's huge problem in lower-income african-american communities.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 14:36 (fifteen years ago) link

are you even serious

man, i love collages (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 14:36 (fifteen years ago) link

are you offended by the colloquial phrase "are you on crack?"

man, i love collages (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm just saying it rubs me the wrong way A LITTLE. So not I'm serious enough to get in an argument about it

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, max, please note that i explicitly said i wasn't offended

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link

not offensive, just a little lame

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link

They also did that album 'Here Comes The Indian' about people sitting at home waiting for their food to be delivered. Don't they even understand the link between takeouts and obesity?

Enemy Insects (NickB), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 14:40 (fifteen years ago) link

i think there are plenty of more valid reasons to hate on the "animal crack box" whiney

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link

i still don't get the pun :-(

ch4rlie fr4m3, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 14:42 (fifteen years ago) link

i do like the gary pantery art tho

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 14:43 (fifteen years ago) link

haha whineford why are you addressing that to me, i just think its lol that you went right for "crack rocks" instead of "animal crackers," ie "you might listen to too much young jeezy if"

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link

make the trap say AYYYYYYY CEEEEEE

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link

"to even want to listen to hollindagain all the way through more than once"

i had to do this to review that when it came out on CD. god, that sucked hard, just thinking about hearing that thing again makes me queasy

Beatrix Kiddo, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link

to be fair Hollindagain is probably the best thing they've done, but they didn't charge $92 for it afaik

umma doomie (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 16:22 (fifteen years ago) link

we are all the best thing they've done

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link

to be fair Hollindagain is probably the best worst thing they've done, but they didn't charge $92 for it afaik

Fixed.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 17:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm powerfully behind Curt1s on this one. This strikes me as a genius scam by a very mediocre band.

― Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, May 13, 2009

this strikes me as ... FFS I've only been sorta into them since the last album but you guys are all retardedly boring now with the need to be all Geir on Funk about this band.

Go have a little cry or something if it's that upsetting.

fandango, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link

not sure why people are so mad about this!

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 17:50 (fifteen years ago) link

a

ichow222, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 17:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Asking why people are mad about this is a lot like Conservative bloggers asking why liberals are so angry about Dijon-gate. Can't they handle a little ribbing? Of course, what they're missing is that no one is angry about Dijon-gate, they're laughing at how ridiculous the whole thing is. SO TO HERE -- SO TO WITH ANIMAL COLLECTIVE.

Mordy, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link

it's no different to regularly going *facedesk* or pointing & laughing at asher roth or lady gaga or la roux or any of the other dreadful acts around at the moment, which half of ilm does

lex pretend, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link

this album is good

High in Openness (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link

hate on this, haters
http://www.exclaim.ca/images/up-acsingle452LG.jpg
A1 “Summertime Clothes” (Album Version)
A2 “Summertime Clothes” (Dam-Funk Remix)
B1 “Summertime Clothes” (Leon Day AKA L.D Remix)
B2 “Summertime Clothes” (Zomby's Analog Lego Mix)

mizzell, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 19:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Hollindagain is totally their best album fyi.*

This is nowhere near approach a Bjork style object-fetish piss take.

Title didn't really strike me as having anything to do with crack, more like work that mines the cracks between albums or something. Like cracks as the repositories for detritus material. But whatevs. They've never been interested in making daft drug references before, don't see why they'd title their box set after it, but then again I could be wrong.

How long before this shows up on r4pid5hare blogs, looking forward to cracking this box, even in mp3 format.

*Strawberry Jam h8r

❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Thursday, 14 May 2009 01:00 (fifteen years ago) link

some real acute analyses of AC distaste up in here. bravo

kamerad, Thursday, 14 May 2009 02:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Asking why people are mad about this is a lot like Conservative bloggers asking why liberals are so angry about Dijon-gate.

Godwin's Law lite.

M.V., Thursday, 14 May 2009 05:19 (fifteen years ago) link

“Summertime Clothes” (Zomby's Analog Lego Mix)

Shame it's not 'My Girls' that he's remixing, but Zomb y vs AC? Can't really hate on that, they're weirdly similar acts.

the next grozart, Thursday, 14 May 2009 09:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Think i read some interview where the AC boy were going on about how much they loved "Where Were U in 92"

Number None, Thursday, 14 May 2009 11:45 (fifteen years ago) link

makes sense - 'where were u' and 'mpp' are sonically similar. i think it's something to do with the quality of the bass frequencies they use.

ch4rlie fr4m3, Thursday, 14 May 2009 11:53 (fifteen years ago) link

I maintained some hope of ebaying this, but um. Guess now would be a good time to cash in on those Purple Bottle and Peacebone white labels, eh?

Ralph, Waldo, Emerson, Lake & Palmer (Merdeyeux), Friday, 15 May 2009 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Sure, why not?

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 15 May 2009 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link

if indie rock was as organized as /b/, we could hunt down jerkoffs who buy litmd edition records just to turn them around on ebay the next week

@kanyewest (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 15 May 2009 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link

jesus christ

Mr. Que, Friday, 15 May 2009 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link

say what you want about animal collective, that shit is a dick move

@kanyewest (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 15 May 2009 19:46 (fifteen years ago) link

no way--that is smart

Mr. Que, Friday, 15 May 2009 19:47 (fifteen years ago) link

gtfo, go read some ayn rand

@kanyewest (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 15 May 2009 19:48 (fifteen years ago) link

how is it a dick move to sell limited edition bullshit on ebay

Mr. Que, Friday, 15 May 2009 19:48 (fifteen years ago) link

if anything animal collective are the dicks for making so few copies of this stuff

Mr. Que, Friday, 15 May 2009 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link

when you buy a copy of a limited edition record just to sell it, you are taking it out of the hands of an actual fan of the band who wants to buy it at an affordable price. this isn't rocket science

@kanyewest (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 15 May 2009 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link

you have to be trolling, this is like indie rock 101

@kanyewest (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 15 May 2009 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link

expecting people to adhere to "indie rock 101" nonsense is retarded

oj da hoosman (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 May 2009 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link

and animal collective is supposed to be clueless about this stuff? after hyping their super-limited, beautifully-packaged, never-to-be-released again rarities collection.

fuck the band, the seller, and whoever is dumb enough to buy that imo.

call all destroyer, Friday, 15 May 2009 19:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Thank god I neither care about physical music artifacts (and would have no problem downloading this stuff), nor about Animal Collective, otherwise I'd be super pissed.

Mordy, Friday, 15 May 2009 19:53 (fifteen years ago) link

when you buy a copy of a limited edition record just to sell it, you are taking it out of the hands of an actual fan of the band who wants to buy it at an affordable price. this isn't rocket science

when you're a wildly successful band and people ebay your limited shit all the time and get lots of money for it, and then you release a limited edition box set of 1000 copies, instead of printing 10,000 or 50,000 or whatever, you're ensuring people will Ebay that shit

Mr. Que, Friday, 15 May 2009 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link

seriously this shit pisses me off. they still could've moved 1000 boxes based on vinyl appeal and packaging alone even if they had released the actual music on itunes 2 weeks later or something.

call all destroyer, Friday, 15 May 2009 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link

people would still ebay that shit

Mr. Que, Friday, 15 May 2009 19:56 (fifteen years ago) link

how is it a dick move to sell limited edition bullshit on ebay

if anything animal collective are the dicks for making so few copies of this stuff

when you're a wildly successful band and people ebay your limited shit all the time and get lots of money for it, and then you release a limited edition box set of 1000 copies, instead of printing 10,000 or 50,000 or whatever, you're ensuring people will Ebay that shit

― Mr. Que

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z197/nieve19_2007/RealTalkDVD3-1.jpg

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 15 May 2009 19:58 (fifteen years ago) link

xp of course they would but in that case fetishistic artifact dorks are on their own. at least the thousands of people who like the band but are not insane could hear this stuff legally.

call all destroyer, Friday, 15 May 2009 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link

que, you seriously sound like a five year old being like "if the store didn't want me to steal candy, why did they make candy so yummy?"

@kanyewest (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 15 May 2009 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link

when you buy a copy of a limited edition record just to sell it, you are taking it out of the hands of an actual fan of the band who wants to buy it at an affordable price. this isn't rocket science

― @kanyewest (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, May 15, 2009 3:50 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

wow, you know who could have prevented this whole sordid scene? THE FUCKING BAND.

call all destroyer, Friday, 15 May 2009 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link

if the store didn't want me to buy the limited edition candy and then re-sell it to kids at school then they should make more candy so everyone can have some

Mr. Que, Friday, 15 May 2009 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Count me in the camp of those that consider this a dick move all around. I hope those douchebags on eBay get ripped off by the buyers.

homage is parody gone sour (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 15 May 2009 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link

the key is in the wording, this kind of thing ALWAYS gets reissued...

This is a single edition of 1000 copies, with no digital or CD version planned." - Catsup Plate.

sleeve, Friday, 15 May 2009 22:51 (fifteen years ago) link

If you really wanna hear this stuff, but don't wanna pay a fortune for it, I've seen it floating around the pirate-webz.

Mordy, Monday, 18 May 2009 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link

you don't say!!

oj da hoosman (J0rdan S.), Monday, 18 May 2009 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

man see united (k3vin k.), Monday, 18 May 2009 23:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Tbh, I wasn't positive that an Animal Collective rarities boxset would immediately get ripped/posted. Guess I misgauged their popularity.

Mordy, Monday, 18 May 2009 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link

I guess eBay could've told you that as well. Allthough right now it's full of people offering this thing up for insane amounts, but noone seems to bite.

Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 May 2009 23:33 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

thanks for posting that video, great video btw!

Bee OK, Saturday, 13 June 2009 02:59 (fourteen years ago) link

fyi, the video is for "Summertime Clothes"

Bee OK, Saturday, 13 June 2009 03:06 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Everett True has his 2c on Animal Collective here:

Defending The Indefensible #7: Animal Collective

groovypanda, Friday, 24 July 2009 11:36 (fourteen years ago) link

defend the indefensible: Everett True more like.

that blog post is sub-ILM snrub-ILM jeez, he gives every impression (always has) of being unable to think his way out of a wet paper-mache box, blind to his utter corniness and conformity. Not for the first time unable to tell the difference between 3 bands connected only by appearing in the same press sentence of which the difference is... one sounds completely fucking different to the others. Hello??

He probably thinks he's genuinely railing against the mainstream, that's what's so hilarious. He's behaving completely to type.

The type being "Indie lover conspicuous in dislike of popular band gaining popularity and critical praise whilst still keeping a modicum of cred intact" other bands in this series: Nirvana, Radiohead.

I'm not even convinced he has heard the album though, you could cut and paste someone else in there and it would make very little difference as he hardly even seems to mention anything musically specific, really.

fndgo, Friday, 24 July 2009 12:19 (fourteen years ago) link

I love the atlas sound track "walkabout" with panda bear.
great summer vibe.

AleXTC, Friday, 24 July 2009 12:32 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean it he even said "god Panda Bear's vocals are so transparently faux-weird" I'd think, ok he's listened, and it bugs him. That would be fair enough but no it's just pure teenage old-man autopilot posturing. Sad as fuck.

fndgo, Friday, 24 July 2009 12:38 (fourteen years ago) link

i hate being the dick who likes the original, but the atlas sound thing is like one eighth as good as what am i going to do by the dovers. that group have been torn to shreds in the past few years.

the heart is a lonely hamster (schlump), Friday, 24 July 2009 13:02 (fourteen years ago) link

he didn't really "defend" them did he

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 July 2009 13:06 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost

ah, I don't know that track. I'll check it out.

AleXTC, Friday, 24 July 2009 13:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Pile on the Defensible more like

the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 24 July 2009 13:20 (fourteen years ago) link

ah, I don't know that track. I'll check it out.

it's so great! you can get everything they did on a ten inch, two cuts of which made nuggets i think. kings of leon are like an affordable dovers tribute group for bar mitzvahs.

the heart is a lonely hamster (schlump), Friday, 24 July 2009 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link

err, I don't see anything like kings of leon in the atlas sound track (but I haven't heard anything by them since their first album)

AleXTC, Friday, 24 July 2009 13:47 (fourteen years ago) link

i haven't heard them since then. they just seemed to be going for a kind of breeze rural garage schtick that the dovers emanate. the atlas sound thing is a little loop of the dovers song, and dovers songs in general are forebears to the reinvention of recorded music pioneered by K O L.

the heart is a lonely hamster (schlump), Friday, 24 July 2009 13:52 (fourteen years ago) link

You really had me interested in Dovers until you compared them to Kings of Leon.

the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 24 July 2009 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link

lol

Gigolo Grasiento (baaderonixx), Friday, 24 July 2009 13:55 (fourteen years ago) link

"You guys should check them out! They mix mid-period Can with the Sonics, filtered through No New York skronk. They also sound kinda like Bloc Party."

the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 24 July 2009 14:18 (fourteen years ago) link

lol x2

Gigolo Grasiento (baaderonixx), Friday, 24 July 2009 14:23 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rclhP1a_o0o

Gigolo Grasiento (baaderonixx), Friday, 24 July 2009 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link

ha ha.
the only space kings of leon take up in my head is just in this horrified oh-man-you-guys-ripped-off-this kinda way.

xp images of melancholic pensive teenagers are not band's own

the heart is a lonely hamster (schlump), Friday, 24 July 2009 14:32 (fourteen years ago) link

why is that girl bouncing from side to side, shit is like a ZS gif imo

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Friday, 24 July 2009 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Pitchfork: Why did you decide to go with the name Universal Studios Florida?

KH: It's based on memories of vacations-- like an idealized version of childhood nostalgia. We wanted to make nostalgia-driven music.

Can we fucking dead the manchild Peter Pan syndrome aesthetic already. It's a dead end. No hope.

I wonder if Fort Thunder regrets spawning like 700 bands called ALF AND THE MELMACS

unban dance squad (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 September 2009 05:27 (fourteen years ago) link

ha i kind of agree w/ whiney's typical vitriol here -- its like, that narrative could work for maybe one group, but trying to tie an entire 'genre' to this pretty one dimensional narrative is totes obnoxious

deej, Monday, 28 September 2009 06:37 (fourteen years ago) link

i agree with this.. Universal Studios Florida and Ducktails are probably the most cringe-worthy names i've heard in recent memory though i'm not sure how much this aesthetic informs the actual music. i haven't heard USF but i really hope they don't sound like the intro to Wild & Crazy Kids

LEGOS by Atlas Sound (coming eventually, 2009 or 2010) (Future_Perfect), Monday, 28 September 2009 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Pitchfork: Why did you decide to go with the name Universal Studios Florida?

KH: It's based on memories of vacations-- like an idealized version of childhood nostalgia. We wanted to make nostalgia-driven music.

lolz at first glance I just thought this was a parody of an Animal Collective interview. do bands really say stupid shit like this...?

*shakes head*

man, motherfuck a paddington bear (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 September 2009 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link

i think the names of these bands is pretty much a minor fucking issue compared to how slight and forgettable their music is.

yellow card for favre (call all destroyer), Monday, 28 September 2009 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link

otm

deej, Monday, 28 September 2009 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean, AC interviews circa '03-'04 would ALWAYS say that they were trying to get back to childhood--thus the faux-naivete of the name "Animal Collective."

Personally, I thought it was a great aesthetic for ONE band, but this shit is getting worse than every sub-Elbow clown band using the word "technocracy" in their press release because they like Kid A.

unban dance squad (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 September 2009 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean, this gets into a bigger issue.

Like every time I go to the Whitney biennial, every single artist my age and younger can't seem to make art that doesn't have Nes controllers or Captain Planet in it.

It's fucking embarrassing to think this is how my generation is squandering their talents

unban dance squad (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 September 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

"Life is good, but GO-BOTS, man. Go-Bots."

unban dance squad (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 September 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

yesterday's trash is tomorrow's gold

man, motherfuck a paddington bear (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 September 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link

whiney have you never listened to early K records stuff?

Mr. Que, Monday, 28 September 2009 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link

good point!

unban dance squad (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 September 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

that shit is awful too imo

unban dance squad (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 September 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean back in the day i had to deal with a band called Bunnygrunt

Mr. Que, Monday, 28 September 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

you need to man up

Mr. Que, Monday, 28 September 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

and i'm on your side--i totally can't stand this

Mr. Que, Monday, 28 September 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

i still fuck with "brother sport" - that's all i wanted to say.

YOUR MOMS SPOT HERON WITH NO HANDS I'M SMACKIN HER (Beatrix Kiddo), Monday, 28 September 2009 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link

all true,

but at least K records was a chance for girls to wear cute dresses and bake vegan cupcakes and play scattergories, not a boys club trying to "turn the pop culture ephemera of our youth into a spiritual plane"

unban dance squad (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 September 2009 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link

somehow early k records stuff is more defensible

YOUR MOMS SPOT HERON WITH NO HANDS I'M SMACKIN HER (Beatrix Kiddo), Monday, 28 September 2009 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

it's like we're all disillusioned dr spock babies desperately trying to avoid our professional parents' high-achieving, emotionally distant fate so we try to get back to the space before we were aware of that by means of a regression legitimized by the false gravitas imparted by some half-baked post-modernist pastiche aesthetic. maybe.

uptown churl, Monday, 28 September 2009 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

WHAT IS k?

k: a conspiracy of gravediggers, spies, swim instructors and international pop stars. There are hangmen and there are saints. k as a label has released cassettes, phonograph records and compact discs documenting the audio works of over 150 artists. The main focus k of has been artists working in and around Olympia, Washington, where k is based, but has included comrades from across the U.S.A. and as far away as Japan, Scotland, Australia, Canada, Germany and England. Yes, k explodes the teenage underground into passionate revolt against the corporate ogre world-wide.

Colleagues in the International Pop Underground collide at the k vanishing point. The sounds cross back and forth through a number of genres, some known and some less so: punk, hip hop, atom-powered folk-pop, haunted garage, restless singer songwright, epic soul shock, noise exp., blurred-eye visionary psychedelica, roadhouse mod and the silent film soundtracks composed by Timothy Brock, as performed by the Olympia Chamber Orchestra.

In describing k to a friend, you might say: Hit the streets to the motorbike beat of the cranked and crush crashpop. Raise the standard and hail: a revolution come and gone behind your eyes. Blood and sand and sidewalk. Radio blast the punk pop implosion that is the new breed: a bee in your bonnet, love in a goldfish bowl, zombie rockin behind the iron curtain. Hey, love rocker, pull on your slacks and Mexican army boots, get ready for some sonic pogo action. Jazz the glass, here they come, screaming and clawing, scooters and dune buggies roaring. Bless. Can you dig it? k Collaborators. King loser and teenage underground. Screech and saw. Buzz. Cut. Spin. Slice. Crush. Squirt. Sweaty basement rock and rule. A crown of barbed wire for your hooded throne. Lose it on the ball and chain.

Hey, gravedigger: ignite.

Mr. Que, Monday, 28 September 2009 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link

calvin always talked a good game but damn I wish K put out better stuff than they do

man, motherfuck a paddington bear (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 September 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

yup

Mr. Que, Monday, 28 September 2009 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link

remember K's rap album?

unban dance squad (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 September 2009 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link

the beats weren't happening, that's for sure

tylerw, Monday, 28 September 2009 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link

BOOM

unban dance squad (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 September 2009 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link

we're all disillusioned dr spock babies desperately trying to avoid our professional parents' high-achieving, emotionally distant fate

OTM. its interesting to me that this is a distinctly post-Boomer generation thing. The Boomers' hated their parents and were possibly the first (last?) generation not to entertain some glassy-eyed nostalgia for the world and pop culture of 20 yrs prior... as the junk culture of America has accumulated over subsequent decades, it just seems sillier and sillier for each generation to pine for the crap of some non-existent idealized childhood (esp one as designed by some faceless corporate juggernaut and manufactured by hapless third world wage slaves)

man, motherfuck a paddington bear (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 September 2009 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link

The Boomers' hated their parents and were possibly the first (last?) generation not to entertain some glassy-eyed nostalgia for the world and pop culture of 20 yrs prior
I dunno though, as all of these Beatles polls prove, McCartney was mining some deep veins of nostalgia for his parents' era.

tylerw, Monday, 28 September 2009 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link

"turn the pop culture ephemera of our youth into a spiritual plane"

btw given how totally saturated my youth was with pop culture (and i didn't even have cable) i'm not even totally opposed to this project--it just needs some more competent dudes and chicks working on it.

yellow card for favre (call all destroyer), Monday, 28 September 2009 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link

the beats weren't happening, that's for sure

oh man, this took me a minute. i'm old!

Mr. Que, Monday, 28 September 2009 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i dunno im just kinda weary of the whole thing ... there was a period the 1st couple weeks of my fresh. year @ college where folks were clustered around a computer in someone's dorm like "omg i totally do remember the tmnt theme," the idea that a bunch of difft ppl thought this was a good jumping off point for an entire 'wave' of bands is kinda depressing ... lets move on shall we

deej, Monday, 28 September 2009 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link

a chillwave of bands

unban dance squad (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 September 2009 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link

deej i totally feel you and am wary of exact shit like that myself but there is something abt it that's interesting to me and i feel like there's room for a deeper investigation. i guess someone needs to criticize it or subvert it and not just kind of treat it as something that can be glossed over or seen through a cheerful memory filter.

yellow card for favre (call all destroyer), Monday, 28 September 2009 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link

i guess i don't have to post one of those tired "children of the 80s" forwards circa college here, huh

i got that thing like 1,000 times!

YOUR MOMS SPOT HERON WITH NO HANDS I'M SMACKIN HER (Beatrix Kiddo), Monday, 28 September 2009 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I dunno though, as all of these Beatles polls prove, McCartney was mining some deep veins of nostalgia for his parents' era.

eh I'm talking about America. Britain a vv different place culturally. Just look at the difference in the two country's exp w/WWII

man, motherfuck a paddington bear (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 September 2009 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link

i feel like there's room for a deeper investigation. i guess someone needs to criticize it or subvert it and not just kind of treat it as something that can be glossed over or seen through a cheerful memory filter.

someone needs to start a band to subvert the memories of TMNT???

Mr. Que, Monday, 28 September 2009 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link

(like no duh Britishers would pine for pre-war England, the war ruined the country! But WWII made America rich, prosperous, and kings of the world, and none of us got bombed. as such, America's love affair with its own pop culture BEGINS after WWII.)

x-posts

man, motherfuck a paddington bear (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 September 2009 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link

lol pop culture saturation in general

yellow card for favre (call all destroyer), Monday, 28 September 2009 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link

i think in the best moments of this stuff there's a sort of resigned melancholy that acknowledges that you can't escape the passage of time no matter how hard you try and thereby uses nostalgia as a jumping off point which can be truly uplifting and self-aware as opposed to regressive and escapist.

like the birther movement the cultural and sociological underpinnings of this so-called chillwave must be addressed despite our reservations about its more gnarly phenotypic variations

uptown churl, Monday, 28 September 2009 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link

to be honest the background music of tmnt (not the theme song) was pretty badass imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ-9_1J8TuM

deej, Monday, 28 September 2009 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link

i think in the best moments of this stuff there's a sort of resigned melancholy that acknowledges that you can't escape the passage of time no matter how hard you try and thereby uses nostalgia as a jumping off point which can be truly uplifting and self-aware as opposed to regressive and escapist.

like the birther movement the cultural and sociological underpinnings of this so-called chillwave must be addressed despite our reservations about its more gnarly phenotypic variations

― uptown churl, Monday, September 28, 2009 3:10 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

still so navel gaze-y

deej, Monday, 28 September 2009 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link

if only they had some pizza and a bottle of wine amirite

man, motherfuck a paddington bear (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 September 2009 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link

are they white btw

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 28 September 2009 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link

don't know anything about any of these bands someone get me up to date

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 28 September 2009 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

ilx....

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 28 September 2009 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link

if only they had some pizza and a bottle of wine amirite

― man, motherfuck a paddington bear (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, September 28, 2009 3:23 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yah for real-- lyrics that are memorable wd probably help these dudes

deej, Monday, 28 September 2009 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I was trying to imply that Girls' lyrics are pretty lolz navel gaze-y but to each his own

man, motherfuck a paddington bear (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 September 2009 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah except that imo pizza & wine are a lot more universal than the kind of supposedly shared nostalgia these dudes are peddling

deej, Monday, 28 September 2009 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link

TS: TMNT theme song vs. Pizza!

man, motherfuck a paddington bear (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 September 2009 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link

I think it's strange that the vagueified nostalgia that these bands are trading in is being treated as some kind of compelling art statement. (By some people I maybe read about somewhere, what the fuck am I even talking about?) I mean, I can relate to Ducktails in terms of how it's some pleasant shit to have widdling away in the background, but I don't hear anything crucial in it. The play between real and fake, allure and artificiality that Matt talks about isn't really evident. Not to me, anyway. What I do hear is a familiar tension between genuine fondness for childhood totems and ironic self-awareness, staked out in territory that hasn't been thoroughly reprocessed by this kind of indie reevaluation. Which is cool, but not giving me anything particularly new to think about. Maybe I'm just too old, and therefore my relationship to the objects invoked isn't sufficiently visceral.

That's not just me saying that, that's the Pentagon. (contenderizer), Monday, 28 September 2009 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link

...this is a distinctly post-Boomer generation thing. The Boomers' hated their parents and were possibly the first (last?) generation not to entertain some glassy-eyed nostalgia for the world and pop culture of 20 yrs prior... as the junk culture of America has accumulated over subsequent decades, it just seems sillier and sillier for each generation to pine for the crap of some non-existent idealized childhood (esp one as designed by some faceless corporate juggernaut and manufactured by hapless third world wage slaves)

-- Shakey Mo

I think that's what makes this version of ironic nostalgia seem so unsurprising. Kids in the late sixties were nostalgic about 40s/50s pop they grew up with, but also suspicious of the implicit messages and of nostalgia itself. And regardless of the defensive stances we adopt with regard to nostalgia, we're all nostalgic just the same.

That's not just me saying that, that's the Pentagon. (contenderizer), Monday, 28 September 2009 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link

I think it's strange that the vagueified nostalgia that these bands are trading in is being treated as some kind of compelling art statement

i've always seen 'vagueified nostalgia' as a sort of defining characteristic of most indie sub-genres

psychgawsple, Monday, 28 September 2009 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link

...and most rock, generally. But most rockers don't consciously sound as if they ape the mannerisms of youth.

Little starbursts of joy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link

most rock? def not

deej, Monday, 28 September 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Guys there's a difference between people aping the bands they liked as a kid and building your entire aesthetic around how awesome it was to watch Legends Of The Hidden Temple

Guerilla Zooey (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link

most rock? def not

The Beatles, Elton John, CCR, Prince, and so on would like a word with you.

Little starbursts of joy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

trying to thing of a nostalgic CCR song

Mr. Que, Monday, 28 September 2009 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link

you're saying 'vaguefied nostalgia' is a defining characteristic of prince's music

deej, Monday, 28 September 2009 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link

"Green River"

Little starbursts of joy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Born on the Bayou

man, motherfuck a paddington bear (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

(I don't agree that "vaguefied nostalgia" is a defining characteristic of rock tho, dunno where Alfred's goin with that one...)

man, motherfuck a paddington bear (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

so by 'vaguefied nostalgia' being a 'defining characteristic,' you mean that these artists often talk about things that happened in the past

deej, Monday, 28 September 2009 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link

hmm okay so yeah, Cotton Fields is one, too, but I don't think that's what Whiney is talking about

Mr. Que, Monday, 28 September 2009 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link

I can think of tons of canonical rock artists who didn't truck in any kind of romanticizing of the past - VU, the Stooges, Black Sabbath, etc - this is kinda a dead end argument

man, motherfuck a paddington bear (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

i've always seen 'vagueified nostalgia' as a sort of defining characteristic of most indie sub-genres

― psychgawsple

Without getting into that, the vaguification here is very thick -- foregrounded, even. By application of reverb, of course, because that's how it's done, but also conceptually (by which I mean pictures that are blurry). Last night, I was listening to an old cassette tape of some friends jamming as teens (synth, drum machines, processed guitar) in 1980-something, and was surprised by how Ducktails-contemporary it sounded.

Guys there's a difference between people aping the bands they liked as a kid and building your entire aesthetic around how awesome it was to watch Legends Of The Hidden Temple

― Whiney

Yeah, but that's my point. The only difference is the object of nostalgia, not nostalgia or one's relationship to it. And that's considerably less interesting -- from a generalist outsider's perspective.

That's not just me saying that, that's the Pentagon. (contenderizer), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I have a better idea now that I've reread these posts. You can claim "Strawberry Fields Forever" as one of the ground zeros: the spacey vocals, use of space, and general musical weirdness make it one of those songs written by an ostensible adult that consciously seeks some kind of comfort in the past ("Penny Lane" too, for that matter). But Animal Collective don't have Lennon as a singer -- or Ringo as a drummer.

Little starbursts of joy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:34 (fourteen years ago) link

ground zeros for indie bands like AC, that is.

Little starbursts of joy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:34 (fourteen years ago) link

hey contenderizer welcome back i think?

yellow card for favre (call all destroyer), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link

i think i see what deej and whiney and co are getting at but i gotta say it doesnt really bug me at all

fleetwood (max), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean, compare Redd Kross' pop obsessions w/ hypnogogic band X's...

Thanks CAD, I think...

That's not just me saying that, that's the Pentagon. (contenderizer), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I was listening to an old cassette tape of some friends jamming as teens (synth, drum machines, processed guitar) in 1980-something, and was surprised by how Ducktails-contemporary it sounded.

woods✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧

Guerilla Zooey (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link

woodsist

Guerilla Zooey (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link

hypnogogic band

oh no you dint

man, motherfuck a paddington bear (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link

i think ducktails are pretty boring -- but thats in some ways separate from the thing that kinda bothers me about this 'movement' being more along the lines of Wire mag writers making a huge deal about something that isnt that big of a deal ... its like the music nerd equivalent of an ny times trend piece on potbellies in brooklyn

deej, Monday, 28 September 2009 22:43 (fourteen years ago) link

like, im sure theres a band out there in this umbrella that could be doing some shit i actually dig, so this isnt a criticism of like max's enjoyment of ducktails, music to get stoned to, or whatever.

deej, Monday, 28 September 2009 22:43 (fourteen years ago) link

okay wait there is a band called Ducktails?!? I thought we were talking about the TV show

man, motherfuck a paddington bear (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link

lolz I am old

man, motherfuck a paddington bear (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link

a woo ooh

Guerilla Zooey (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link

This thread revive's spleen is healing me a little, thx WGW. This aesthetic is absolutely trampling the independent comics scene the last 4 or 5 years... similar to what you describe at the Whitney. The crayons, the pages drawn over line-ruled notebook paper, the Garfields etc etc. I kind of feel like this (the Peter Pan wave) is at the crux of some kind of generation gap between my cohort of cartoonists and ones 10-20 years younger. And w/each year the wave's getting bigger.

But then on the other hand, the Ben Jones story in the new Kramer's Ergot-flavored Simpsons Halloween comic was pretty brilliant so i dunno.

I guess I feel like not all the interesting ways of spinning out fantasy/interesting headfuckery/emotional weight necessarily have to stem from childhood?

Wee Tam and the lolhueg (Jon Lewis), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Also this is the first I've heard abt a band called DuckTails and unless they're playing some kind of tech-death I am appalled.

Wee Tam and the lolhueg (Jon Lewis), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks CAD, I think...

― That's not just me saying that, that's the Pentagon. (contenderizer), Monday, September 28, 2009 6:38 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

sorry that came out wrong--i meant i think youve been away for a while? always enjoyed yr posts.

yellow card for favre (call all destroyer), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link

most rockers don't consciously sound as if they ape the mannerisms of youth

most indie rockers do tho

The only difference is the object of nostalgia, not nostalgia or one's relationship to it

that whole 'legends of the hidden temple' scenario seems pretty fantastic to me, tbh

psychgawsple, Monday, 28 September 2009 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link

writing childlike rythms and performing with a sense of playfulness in order to tap the ancient subconcious wellsprings of nostalgia isn't a bad idea; "unicorns are people too" is probably the best thing ever recorded in this style and is one of my alltime favourite albums. but it's something that works best as a vehicle for a song, or an album. definitely not something to base your entire discography on.

samosa gibreel, Monday, 28 September 2009 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, Jon. Comics look like dogshit now.

Stick-figure: "RAD!"
Frog: "COOL!"
Both: "RADICOOL!"

Guerilla Zooey (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

*childlike melodies

samosa gibreel, Monday, 28 September 2009 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

but it's something that works best as a vehicle for a song, or an album. definitely not something to base your entire discography on.

otm

Guerilla Zooey (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:55 (fourteen years ago) link

imagine if all White Stripes songs sounded like "We're Gonna Be Friends"

Guerilla Zooey (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, but enough of them DO, Whiney, which is why I can listen to them only in bits.

Little starbursts of joy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:57 (fourteen years ago) link

It seems we're no longer really talking about Animal Collective but I don't think their music is really nostalgic or about youth at all.

I said somewhere that AC and Boards of Canada's approaches to the idea of time were diametrically opposed, but it was too crappy and pretentious to merit me finding it and posting it again.

Tim F, Monday, 28 September 2009 22:57 (fourteen years ago) link

isnt animal collectives music like really lyrically specifically about growing up? like, not at all about being young??

fleetwood (max), Monday, 28 September 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

sung tongs is all about this shit, and it's there in varying degrees on every album since. like um for example "turn into something," "chores," "bluish." but i agree that their childishness is overplayed, and mostly a result of their image and things they say in interviews. it's not like they're a one-trick pony, but this is one of their tricks.

samosa gibreel, Monday, 28 September 2009 23:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Gotcha, CAD. I was just being taunty, for no real reason. Hugs.

Plus, I don't know you, Jon Lewis, but I love True Swamp, so thanks for that. And I got no problem w/ day-glo Paper Rad Garfields, long as the level of design stays high. Shit gets old after a while, but every trend has to run it's course, right? Remember tearing my hair out about all the earnest indie autobio crap not so very long ago...

That's not just me saying that, that's the Pentagon. (contenderizer), Monday, 28 September 2009 23:08 (fourteen years ago) link

isnt animal collectives music like really lyrically specifically about MEOOOOW KITTEEEEZ MEEEEEOOOW KITTTEEEZ

Guerilla Zooey (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 September 2009 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link

isnt animal collectives music like really lyrically specifically about HOLIDAY HOLIDAY HOLIDAY HOLIDAY HOLIDAY FUN

Guerilla Zooey (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 September 2009 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link

lol

samosa gibreel, Monday, 28 September 2009 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link

isnt animal collectives music like really lyrically specifically about I AM THE PANTHA I AM THE PANTHA

Guerilla Zooey (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 September 2009 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link

seriously, who listens to Animal Collective specifically for the lyrical content? are people poring through Winters Love trying to find words they can parse and then saying "SEE? NOSTALGIA!"

don't get it

HPSCHD, Monday, 28 September 2009 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link

btw i wasnt talking about animal collective at all -- more my growing exasperation w/ the kinds of bs i keep reading critics talk about while actually-interesting stories go right on by them

deej, Monday, 28 September 2009 23:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks Contenderizer! I'm working on new True Swamp material but it goes slowly bcuz I have a 40hr day job these days. Chippin' away tho.

Wee Tam and the lolhueg (Jon Lewis), Monday, 28 September 2009 23:13 (fourteen years ago) link

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seriously, who listens to Animal Collective specifically for the lyrical content? are people poring through Winters Love trying to find words they can parse and then saying "SEE? NOSTALGIA!"

don't get it

― HPSCHD, Monday, September 28, 2009 6:12 PM (38 seconds ago) Bookmark

i assume ppl are more talking about HYPNOGAGA POP

deej, Monday, 28 September 2009 23:13 (fourteen years ago) link

i have a dumb question-

why did we revive the mpp thread for this?

yellow card for favre (call all destroyer), Monday, 28 September 2009 23:14 (fourteen years ago) link

also xxxxxpost Whiney, a lot of this wave of cartoonists can draw like DEMONS, like scary good, but seem to want to wallow in the middle school psych thing.

Goin' home now.

Wee Tam and the lolhueg (Jon Lewis), Monday, 28 September 2009 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link

this is no longer the mpp thread so much as the thread where whiney gets mad about something every couple months

fleetwood (max), Monday, 28 September 2009 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link

me mad

Guerilla Zooey (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 September 2009 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link

haha i think my problem is opening an Animal Collective thread thinking "Hmm, maybe someone's said something interesting about Animal Collective!"

HPSCHD, Monday, 28 September 2009 23:17 (fourteen years ago) link

this is no longer the mpp thread so much as the thread where whiney gets mad about something every couple months

― fleetwood (max), Monday, September 28, 2009 6:15 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

well, at least until he posts in a different thread

deej, Monday, 28 September 2009 23:31 (fourteen years ago) link

http://behance.vo.llnwd.net/profiles/78105/projects/213057/781051240168448.jpg

dmr, Monday, 28 September 2009 23:32 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean back in the day i had to deal with a band called Bunnygrunt

― Mr. Que, Monday, September 28, 2009 2:42 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

btw bunnygrunt is still around. i don't know if they used to be really twee but they aren't particularly twee or "nostalgic" as far as i can tell; they're basically just decent loud pop

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 28 September 2009 23:35 (fourteen years ago) link

btw i am sick of nostalgic kids music too, or even nostalgic teenager music like the hold steady ... i'd like to hear more bands of 30-year-olds singing songs about being 30

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 28 September 2009 23:36 (fourteen years ago) link

it's kinda funny how 80s cartoon dayglo toddler chic has been like the de facto mode of the Baltimore indie scene for ages (not really IDing Animal Collective as part of that scene because i didn't even have any concept of being from Maryland until years after they left) to the point that i hadn't even given it the kind of serious thought it's getting here in a long time.

petition to sloop J0hn D. (some dude), Monday, 28 September 2009 23:44 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost psh-man i wanna hear me some teenagers singing songs about being 30

samosa gibreel, Monday, 28 September 2009 23:45 (fourteen years ago) link

I remember reading descriptions of AC back in the early 2000's describing them as being "nostalgic" and thinking no, that's not right at all - AC aren't tapping the same vein as, say, Boards of Canada. So it's very disappointing to hear them basically reiterating these lazy descriptions. AC if anything are primitivist, not nostalgic. Their sound is that of technologically advanced cavemen, not media-besotted children.

dog latin, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 14:21 (fourteen years ago) link

cavemen nostalgia

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 14:22 (fourteen years ago) link

if there can be such a thing... i'm just not convinced by AC's attempts to connote childlike feelings, but i am convinced by their attempts to convey chimp-like feelings. Does that make sense?

dog latin, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 14:26 (fourteen years ago) link

a chimp child?

modescalator (blueski), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Bonobos are the thing now, didn't you know?

Wee Tam and the lolhueg (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Charlie - ctrl+f canada on this thread - coldplay are better and way less overrated than animal collective

Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 15:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Nick, what specifically am I meant to be looking at?

dog latin, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 15:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Not sure I buy the "cavemen, not children thing". Maybe circa Here Comes the Indian (with Hollinndagain, the earliest AnCo stuff I'm familiar with). Forest noises and tribal chanting, etc. But Sung Tongs has a kids-at-play feel. Naive, sugar-buzzed, unrestrained. Not all the way through, but certainly on the first couple songs, and occasionally thereafter. It doesn't seem at all nostalgic, though. There's no sense of sentimentalized melancholy, of unbridgeable distance from a fondly remembered ideal. Rather it seems immediate, like an attempt to recreate or mimic a childlike state in the here and now. (And maybe that perception can be projected back onto the primitivist early stuff: kids playing at being Indians, cavemen, whatever.)

That's not just me saying that, that's the Pentagon. (contenderizer), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link

There's a brief interplay between me and Tim F about memory; recording of a memory vs memory of a recording, specifically.

Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Where would I be able to read that Nick?

young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Ah, forget it, soz.

young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nJ5n4GX5ag

Zeno, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link

There's a band called "Reading Rainbow" now

A new Dutty Rock thread because I can't find the old one (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I can't wait for our nation of late-twentysomethings to completely exhaust the well of pop culture nostalgia until every band is named "Salute Your Shorts"

A new Dutty Rock thread because I can't find the old one (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Salute Your Shorts and the Heeeeeyyyy Duuuuude Orchestra

A new Dutty Rock thread because I can't find the old one (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link

There's a band called "Reading Rainbow" now

wait really?

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.myspace.com/levarmotherfuckingburton

Wow, real "shocking" what they sound like too

A new Dutty Rock thread because I can't find the old one (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 14:07 (fourteen years ago) link

hahaha whiney

the burrprint squee (deej), Thursday, 8 October 2009 00:30 (fourteen years ago) link

five bucks says this isn't real.

samosa gibreel, Thursday, 8 October 2009 01:40 (fourteen years ago) link

it's probably a live album or something.

Bee OK, Thursday, 8 October 2009 03:31 (fourteen years ago) link

It's a round-table discussion in which they respond to critics of this album one by one.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 October 2009 03:32 (fourteen years ago) link

probably gonna be pretty boring: "thanks; thanks; thanks; thanks; thanks."

jackie off the chain (k3vin k.), Thursday, 8 October 2009 03:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Does anyone else think the new Fuck Buttons single "Surf Solar" sounds like something off this record?

Still kshighway. (Guess who's back?) (kshighway1), Thursday, 8 October 2009 03:38 (fourteen years ago) link

"probably gonna be pretty boring: "thanks; thanks; thanks; thanks; thanks.""

Sounds a bit like "Brothersport" I heard.

Tim F, Thursday, 8 October 2009 07:01 (fourteen years ago) link

so this is going to be a new EP, YEAH!:

http://pitchfork.com/news/36753-animal-collectives-avey-tare-reveals-all-about-new-ep-film-tour-hiatus/

Bee OK, Saturday, 10 October 2009 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm pretty excited about the film. Sounds non-narrative and psychedelic!

Adam Bruneau, Saturday, 10 October 2009 01:36 (fourteen years ago) link

In Hogan's P4k review of Neon Indian, he pretty much nails what I'm talking about. But isn't complaining about it like I am.

Borrowed nostalgia for the unremembered 80s." Those words, when James Murphy over-enunciated them on what's still arguably the decade's best piece of music-as-music-criticism-- LCD Soundsystem's 2002 debut single, "Losing My Edge"-- had the decisive feel of a gauntlet being thrown down. One 1980s baby struck back with a Nintendo Power Glove. Just a guess: Probably not what Murphy had in mind.

Of course, cheaply copied reminiscences of a blurrily imagined decade are basically their own genre now, cloudy and proud. The sound has many names, but none of them seem to fit just right. Dream-beat, chillwave, glo-fi, hypnagogic pop, even hipster-gogic pop-- all are imperfect phrases for describing a psychedelic music that's generally one or all of the following: synth-based, homemade-sounding, 80s-referencing, cassette-oriented, sun-baked, laid-back, warped, hazy, emotionally distant, slightly out of focus. Washed Out. Memory Tapes. Ducktails. Ah-woo-ooh.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

There you go that is perfect!

Glo-fi, I think, is a really good term for it. One thing I remember about being a kid in the 80s is that everything was glowing with this digital haze. I'm thinking TV commercials with vector graphics (lines of glowing light) and the fuzzy appearance of analog video technology. Then you had all these pop songs drenched in digital reverb (or at least the snare drum). So the music was kind of glowing.

Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, plus the fondness for bright pastel colors and simple primaries, retro 50s "populuxe" color schemes and design. There definitely was a neon simplicity to popular youth culture in general. What's funny is how precise and clear it seemed at the time, in contrast to drab, brown 70s-realist fuzziness. It was an era of sharpness, not of haze, at least in terms of how it narrated itself to itself. Pac Man/Tron graphic were (or seemed) idealized & clean, like Esprit stripes & Jellies.

Retrospectively, that all changes. VHS vs. Blu-Ray.

a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link

so it's 80s + weed basically

guammls (QE II), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 23:25 (fourteen years ago) link

man so much of this stuff is gonna date so badly

i got nothin (deej), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 23:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Dream-beat, chillwave

yeah some of this stuff on the memory tapes album makes me think of bowery electric circa "lushlife". weren't there a cluster of groups that kinda went on this shoegaze meets trip hop thing for a little while in the mid-90s? not making a direct comparison, it just REMINDS me is all

guammls (QE II), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 23:36 (fourteen years ago) link

x-post I dunno does revivalism ever really "date"?

Think about how electroclash just continues and continues and continues, just changing its name and scene-configuration every couple of years.

Perhaps what doe date w/r/t revivalism is just the sense that you cared, like "lol we were into that." So you can be contemptuous of your former enjoyment of hype-moments like britpop/elephant six/"the new rock revolution"/electroclash/hypnagogic pop, even though in fact all of the specific sounds those terms are meant to describe continue to hang around like bits of food between yr teeth.

Tim F, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 23:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh I for one expect all of these artists will enjoy enduring relevance at par with Dance Disaster Movement and Test Icicles.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 23:37 (fourteen years ago) link

There's a big difference b/w "dating" and "enjoying enduring relevance" though. Lots of music slips out of popular consciousness b/c it's not interesting or good enough even to be tied down to a particular point of time.

Test Icicles sounded awful at the time even.

Tim F, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 23:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Should say there's a big difference between "not dating" and "enjoying enduring relevance"...

Tim F, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 23:41 (fourteen years ago) link

yah tim i know what you mean, i think its more just like ... yeah the strokes seem to have aged pretty well, but lol the vines ... where the 'movement' helps a lot of mediocre shit get thru the 'filter' just because it happens to follow this sound .... obviously i resist the idea that a wack band cant drop an exciting one-off accidentally, or that those spearheading a movement necessarily deserve more 'credit' for their music than latecomers, but at some point discernment seems to take a back seat. i mean, have you sat thru that ducktails album? i downloaded & deleted it TWICE i was trying so hard to get into it

but maybe i dont smoke enough weed

i got nothin (deej), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 23:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Dunno Tim. I mean, music: it's good or it isn't, isn't it? And there's nothing much new about this whole thing, it's just what Pitchfork is talking about. I fail to see a massive difference between most of these acts and, say, early Boards of Canada, or as mentioned above early Seefeel. I mean some of this sounds like Land of the Loops, guys. These acts are exploring the same territory with less resources and different conceptual pretensions. Having the bliss without the gothy/gothic and pretty forced obtuseness of those geometric days (something M83 has tried to purge with his flowery images but is so inextricably tied to musically it's a lost cause) is refreshing, but it's new clothes, not new ideas or expressions. "Crazy For You" x infinity.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 23:48 (fourteen years ago) link

or alternately, im slightly too young for the references to hit me emotionally, & w/ very few of these artists is there something else to grab on to (but then, you should be too young too haa)

i got nothin (deej), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 23:49 (fourteen years ago) link

when i heard neon indian some of the traxx def seemed to stand out more to me

i got nothin (deej), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 23:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I like the Ducktails stuff well enough, though it doesn't compel me to investigate deep glo-wave scene knowledge. Plus it makes my GF call me a hippie. Agree that the more this becomes a thing, the less interesting any given example of it becomes, and the more mystifying it'll all seem in a few years.

OTOH, Ducktails, specifically, get a pass cuz it's really just stoner wall-gaze soundtracks with zero commercial prospects, and that shit's eternal.

a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 23:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Deej and Cott, I agree with your last two points absolutely - and this stuff will totally date in the sense of "lol we were into that, how could we swallow the hype hook line and sinker" (ftr I'm not really, every band i've checked out described in these terms just sounds like post-rock crossed with drone to me, but maybe i'm checking the wrong stuff? I haven't listened to Ducktails or Neon Indian).

I just tend to think of "dated vs not dated", "good vs bad" and "duly hyped vs overhyped" as different conceptual categories - i.e. gated snare drums became "dated" but lots of amazing music has gated snare drums and often the drums sound fantastic. Warm, simple analogue recording techniques can't "date" anymore but a lot of bad or boring music is made in that fashion.

Tim F, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 23:55 (fourteen years ago) link

The whole sidechain/DSP hard compression shortcut to sounding better-than-indie is one of the most painful developments in audio history. This Neon Indian record sounds like moments of Disco Inferno records played through a Distressor.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 23:58 (fourteen years ago) link

painful indeed, the ducktails stuff i listened to had some nice things going on but it was too unplesantly harsh sounding for me to handle. i have no problem with lo-fi shit but DUDE FIX YR LEVELS

guammls (QE II), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 23:59 (fourteen years ago) link

yah thats fair -- i think whats 'dating' to me is the conceptual pretense

i got nothin (deej), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link

when i heard neon indian some of the traxx def seemed to stand out more to me

― i got nothin (deej), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 23:50 (Yesterday)

probably because there is only one good neon indian song. i really like hypnagogic pop in theory, and i imagine there's a lot of good stuff i haven't heard yet and i'm just not keeping up with but much of it it seems is high on cool production and low on good melodies.

samosa gibreel, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 02:02 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6f/Animal_Collective_Fall_Be_Kind.jpg

Fall Be Kind is an upcoming EP by Animal Collective, to be released on November 23rd 2009 (digitally) and 14th December (physically).
Recorded by Ben Allen at Sweet Tea in Oxford, MS in February 2008 and at Mission Sound in Brooklyn, NY August 2009, Fall Be Kind includes recent live favorites "Graze" and "What Would I Want? Sky" (featuring the first ever licensed Grateful Dead sample).

1. Graze
2. What Would I Want? Sky
3. Bleed
4. On A Highway
5. I Think I Can

Bee OK, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link

I finally got around to listening to this and only really liked "My Girls".

a Barbie-like nub where he provates should be (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link

i like this band and enjoyed 'sung tongs' and 'feels' but something keeps me from really getting to them. i've prob listened to MPP like twice. 'my girls' is kind of annoying

love the panda bear album tho. prob my favorite AC-related thing

mark cl, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link

i tried hard with this, but it is not good imo

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link

"My Girls" is the standout, I think - it seems to have a little more swing in it - elsewhere on the album the rhythms tend to be a bit too ploddingly mid-tempo. But I think this is still one of the more interesting indie albums of recent times - one of the few that seems to inhabit the same contemporary musical universe that includes techno-futurist R&B like Beyonce.

o. nate, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link

imo if you want to hear stuff in this general vein that isn't squarely at the worst possible midpoint between aimless ambient noodling and overearnest whining, pick up Moderat

a Barbie-like nub where he provates should be (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link

"What Would I Want? Sky" (featuring the first ever licensed Grateful Dead sample)"

which is from Unbroken Chanin taking from The Mars Hotel album.maybe the only decent song from that record.

Zeno, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link

would never think of the moderat as an equivalent but it is a much better album. Ur all mad tho brothersport is the highlight

plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link

there's a mediafire link out there for this with a bunch of crap 80s songs rickrolled in, but i don't have the heart to post it here.

YOUR MOMS SPOT HERON WITH NO HANDS I'M SMACKIN HER (Beatrix Kiddo), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link

still feels weird to be in the pro-MPP camp (tho i wasn't much of a fan before), rate this over Moderat even

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link

would never think of the moderat as an equivalent but it is a much better album

In truth that comparison came about because I encountered "My Girls" on the Modeselektor Body Language mix, which ends with "A New Error"; in the context of that mix, they both inhabit a similar vibe. I recognize that one isn't a direct substitute for the other.

a Barbie-like nub where he provates should be (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

also the cover art is prob the shittiest of the decade

mark cl, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 22:34 (fourteen years ago) link

new animal collector ;-)

luol deng (am0n), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link

there's a mediafire link out there for this with a bunch of crap 80s songs rickrolled in, but i don't have the heart to post it here.

― YOUR MOMS SPOT HERON WITH NO HANDS I'M SMACKIN HER (Beatrix Kiddo), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 21:49 (Yesterday) Bookmark

something tells me this should already be somewhere on this thread.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link

What Would I Want? Sky is great (at least the live version I heard).

ecuador_with_a_c, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Agree with what others said that "My Girls" is the standout. I like AC, and Panda Bear, when they're incorporating those sunshine pop influences and harmonies. The other, more noodling, songs aren't always bad but it's just not worth returning to.

Cunga, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link

i hope what would i want? sounds a little less like moby than i remember

peter falk's panther burns (schlump), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link

not a fan of the vocals in "what would i want sky" judging from live bootlegs i've heard. to me what's great about MPP is that avey tare grew out of alot of what made his vocals so awkward and unpleasant to listen to on strawberry jam. it's not quite a return to the greatness of the vocals on feels but alot of beautiful crooning. and yeah, "what would i want" sounds like it could've been on strawberry jam.

samosa gibreel, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 23:24 (fourteen years ago) link

*but a lot of beautiful crooning nonetheless.

samosa gibreel, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 23:25 (fourteen years ago) link

*but a lot of beautiful crooning nonetheless.

samosa gibreel, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 23:25 (fourteen years ago) link

at this point i'm more pro-bro sport than pro-MPP, but it's still a better album than strawberry jam was imo

YOUR MOMS SPOT HERON WITH NO HANDS I'M SMACKIN HER (Beatrix Kiddo), Thursday, 12 November 2009 01:18 (fourteen years ago) link

because idolator readers DEMAND IT:

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ytmxc4k2qzm

behold!

YOUR MOMS SPOT HERON WITH NO HANDS I'M SMACKIN HER (Beatrix Kiddo), Thursday, 12 November 2009 01:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Nobody has ever sampled the Grateful Dead before??????

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 12 November 2009 01:21 (fourteen years ago) link

I guess Phish get by on a technicality.

adamj, Thursday, 12 November 2009 01:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Fall Be Kind is now leaking!

Bee OK, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link

this is really, really good. i think Animal Collective are possibly hitting their peak right now as this is so much better than it's suppose to be.

Bee OK, Thursday, 19 November 2009 01:48 (fourteen years ago) link

the harmonies on 'what would i want? sky', absent from the npr/live versions, is very pleasing!

GEDDY LEE JAZZ MINT (Future_Perfect), Thursday, 19 November 2009 01:55 (fourteen years ago) link

the last track ,Noah's I Think I Can, might be the best track in this EP, and it's not surprising.

Zeno, Thursday, 19 November 2009 06:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Looking forward to hearing this. I even have my AC team uniform on (four day beard, a hoodie and jeans).

Cunga, Thursday, 19 November 2009 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link

What Would I want? Sky is pretty awesome. Way better than the live version I had.

exploding angel vagina (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 19 November 2009 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^first a.c. song i have actually wanted to listen to again.

omaha deserved 311 (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I've listened to "What Would I Want? Sky" about 5 times since downloading this, and I've got to say I'd put this in my top 5 of their stuff. Incredibly pleasing and warm.

Sam Weller, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^first a.c. song i have actually wanted to listen to again.

otm

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

what would i want? sky is about a thousand times better than any other song on the ep imo. think it'll head to my top 25 played pretty quick

ianmaxwell, Thursday, 26 November 2009 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link

I Think I Can gets played repeatedly around these parts. Those drums are relentlessly exciting.

Spinspin Sugah, Thursday, 26 November 2009 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Finally got round to listening to this, and my first impression is that it's great! AC were starting to stray into serious/formulaic territory on the last couple of albums and EPs - not bad music, but maybe lacking that little sense of esprit you can hear coming through on tracks like "Sweet Road" off Sung Tongs. I love the panpipe section on Graze - a very different sound to what I'm used to hearing from AC. Similarly, "Sky" which I saw em play at Glasto is a lovely airy, almost Boards-Of-Canadaish piece. Nice one.

dog latin, Sunday, 6 December 2009 12:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Animal Collective's "Fall be Kind"

a dedicated thread as it deserves it !

AlXTC from Paris, Sunday, 6 December 2009 12:55 (fourteen years ago) link

whoah, pithfork AND mojo's favorite album of the year. strange cred bedfellows

kamerad, Friday, 18 December 2009 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

there's a band called golden girls now

s1oc'd after dark (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 01:34 (fourteen years ago) link

There's a venue called Merriweather Post Pavilion now.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 01:41 (fourteen years ago) link

This band is still called "shit".

striker, currently playing for Italian Serie A club Milan (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 01:43 (fourteen years ago) link

All Music Popular Music Classical Music


Name Search Results for:
SHIT

Relevance

Artist

Genre

Years Active


Shitmat Electronic 00s

Shhit Pop/Rock 00s

O Shit

O. Shit Rap

MC Shit Pop/Rock

Shit S.A. Pop/Rock

Big Shit Rap

Cut The Shit

Fly Shit Pop/Rock

Ill Shit Pop/Rock

Pop Shit Rap

Shit Kid Pop/Rock

Shithead Electronic

Shithook Pop/Rock 90s

Shitstar Pop/Rock 00s

Shitdisco Pop/Rock 00s

Holy Shit! Pop/Rock 00s

Phat Shit Pop/Rock 90s

Shit City Pop/Rock

Jack Shit Pop/Rock

Shitbirds Pop/Rock 90s

Shitboxes Comedy/Spoken

Shitennou International

Shitkings Electronic 90s

Shitstorm Pop/Rock

Shitswarm Pop/Rock

Take Shit Pop/Rock

Shit & Shine Pop/Rock

Shit Robot Pop/Rock 00s

Heavy Shit Electronic

Naked Shit Pop/Rock

Shit Lives On Pop/Rock

White Shit Pop/Rock

Mr. Shit Comedy/Spoken

Police Shit Pop/Rock

Shit & Chalou International

Shit for Brains Vocal

Andrew Shit Pop/Rock

Steve Shit Electronic

The Shitkickers Country

Sora Shitty

Shi Tao New Age

Shihad Pop/Rock 80s-00s

DJ Taki Shit Rap

Shi Town Rap

Shi-Take Electronic 90s

Shit Spitter Pop/Rock

The Shat Pop/Rock 90s, 00s

Shotta Latin

Chitta New Age
End of List

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 05:11 (fourteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Never gonna give you up. Never gonna let you down.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 4 February 2010 01:41 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

<333

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Saturday, 29 May 2010 05:41 (fourteen years ago) link

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs258.snc1/10535_279983485371_694900371_9330911_6411022_n.jpg

― kshighway1, Wednesday, November 11, 2009 7:04 AM (6 months ago)

Bee OK, Saturday, 29 May 2010 05:45 (fourteen years ago) link

one of the best threads ILM has had, too much good stuff.

Bee OK, Saturday, 29 May 2010 05:46 (fourteen years ago) link

up to date: 2024 replies.

rick and roll was great fun.

Bee OK, Saturday, 29 May 2010 05:50 (fourteen years ago) link

one of the best threads ILM has had, too much good stuff.

― Bee OK

____________________________________________

This band is still called "shit".

― striker, currently playing for Italian Serie A club Milan (King Boy Pato)

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 29 May 2010 06:13 (fourteen years ago) link

can

unfunperson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 4 June 2010 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link

i

unfunperson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 4 June 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

just

unfunperson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 4 June 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

looks like people are having fun but fucking groan

0xCAFED00D (LOLK), Friday, 4 June 2010 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't even want to press play.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Friday, 4 June 2010 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link

also via HRO iirc:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO0f853ejAo

ksh, Saturday, 5 June 2010 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

When will this end?

Jews Newton (van smack), Saturday, 5 June 2010 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Define "this"

ksh, Saturday, 5 June 2010 22:19 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.xlr8r.com/news/2010/06/cassettes-wont-listen-introduces

Cassettes Won't Listen Debuts Animal Ox (Animal Collective meets Cannibal Ox Remix) On XLR8R

(I haven't listened to it yet, but kind of worried I might like it if I did)

ke$ha in the rye (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 19 June 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

First The Grey Album, then Girl Talk, and now this.

Doesn't XLR8R cover electronic music all day? Why are they talking about plunderphonics/mashups in a way that would be condescending to an eighth grader?

ke$ha in the rye (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 19 June 2010 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

spoiler: this is completely fucking unlistenable.

ke$ha in the rye (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

hold on

i am shocked

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

they should've done a mashup of cannibal ox and gr80 & i's MPP fake leak

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link

i figured there was a parallel between El-P's flighty Moroder obsessions and AnCo's cinematic flutter that could be exploited, and plus I like both artists a bunch. But Cassettes Won't Listen just bungles simple shit like rhythm or key. Also there's pretty much NEVER been a good album-length "ARTIST MEETS ARTIST LOL" mash-up album in the history of time and that includes the suuuper spotty Grey Album

ke$ha in the rye (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

but what about the grey album

Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 June 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bow_tie#Stereotypes_of_bow_tie_wearers

roxymuzak, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I like the Neon Indian album, but not enough to start a thread. So I'm just saying it here.

village idiot (dog latin), Monday, 12 July 2010 11:45 (thirteen years ago) link

four months pass...

http://i52.tinypic.com/sys68o.gif

Josh "Deakin" Dibb, the somewhat-elusive fourth member of Animal Collective who sat out the recording and touring for 2009's Merriweather Post Pavilion, is back in the band.
http://i52.tinypic.com/sys68o.gif

http://pitchfork.com/news/40842-deakin-back-in-animal-collective/

markers, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 06:25 (thirteen years ago) link

shit

tim lincecum in a giants snuggie (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

iGay

― iGay, Saturday, December 13, 2008 8:57 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

hillybilly death worship (absolutely clean glasses), Saturday, 21 May 2011 10:20 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

haha wow i never saw harvey's paper on this

gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link

oh man, I didn't realize that he was the "academic doofus" he was talking about there.

how's life, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:02 (nine years ago) link

jesus, merriweather came out 6 years ago

when is the new Jim O'Rourke album coming out (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:06 (nine years ago) link

I know! God!

Mark G, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:14 (nine years ago) link

Did ILM do a MPP pre-cover? I know we did Centipede HZ

Nekomizu don't work (MaresNest), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:18 (nine years ago) link

no

Mark G, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:18 (nine years ago) link

I haven't felt the urge to listen to this record in aeons... although for some reason or other 'Also Frightened' appeared out of nowhere in my head the other day.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link

Raggett N (2012). Personal interview. 19 October 2011.

uncle banmee who can remember his live posts (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link

I tried to listen to it 21 times in a row last year, but only made it 6.

how's life, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link


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