"Is it rolling, Bob?": aka the 2008 P&J/Idolator trolling thread

what?

according to metacritic:

1 Steinski: What Does It All Mean? 1983-2006 Retrospective 90
2 The Bug: London Zoo 90
3 Plush: Fed 89
4 Bon Iver: For Emma, Forever Ago 89
5 TV On The Radio: Dear Science, 88
6 Fleet Foxes: Fleet Foxes 87
7 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds: Dig!!! Lazarus Dig!!! 87
8 Robyn: Robyn 86
9 Hercules And Love Affair: Hercules And Love Affair 86
10 Protest The Hero: Fortress 86

jeez, i've heard all of two of those.

TVOTR or Portishead will win one of the polls, right?

it's October

really?

xp

yep.

Metacritic's ability to pass off its subjectivity as objectivity always bugs me. They pick and choose certain sources and leave many others out.

yeah my first reaction is that tvotr will will most of these yr end lists

yeah, metacritic sucks, but it's pretty much all we get pre-dec.

will win xp

Oh No, Pass the Lord and Praise the Ammunition--It’s Time for the 2007 P&J / Jackin’ Pop Prognostication Thread!

It's September.

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, September 20, 2007 5:58 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

heheh...some things (almost) never change.

Lil Wayne maybe?

Stop posting.

ok.

Wayne'll finish Top 5 with all his #9 and #10 votes, right?

And Dylan for reissue in a walk, not that I've heard it.

I'd be kinda surprised if TVOTR ranked as well with this album as they did with the last.

Me too. To me, there doesn't seem to be any clear breakout front runner EXCEPT Wayne, and lots of people don't like the album.

dr. phil, I want to know what are your favorite duranguese and banda and norteno cds for the year? You used to (still ?) write about such genres, right?

yeah, the new TVOTR doesn't seem to have the same kind of sweeping impact their last one had so i'll be really surprised if they end up walking either (both?) polls. it seems like a strange year for breakout crit-pick albums, tho. what about singles? has anything really stood out like "Rehab" and "Umbrella" did last year? um, "Paper Planes" doesn't stand much of a chance, does it?

"I'm Yours"?
"American Boy"?
"I Kissed a Girl and I Liked It"?
"Pocketful of Sunshine"?

At a guess, in no particular order - TVOTR, Portishead, Vampire Weekend, Lil Wayne, Bon Iver, Fleet Foxes, Hercules & Love Affair

Singles? Estelle, MIA and Santogold surely but then I'm stumped

Don't forget Badu.

(on the album list)

Yeah, sorry, I typed that too quickly - Badu's a definite

"A Milli" is gonna sweep singles, guys.

Come on now.

it'll be top 10, maybe top 5. no way a sweep.

Paper Planes" doesn't stand much of a chance, does it?

Sure it does -- could even win, if they tally carroyover votes right.

But yeah, I was thinking "A Milli" had a real shot, too. And I'd be surprised if Lil Wayne didn't take the albums (though I've been surprised before.)

Is Bon Iver really that big a deal? Not convinced Portishead will be top 10, either (they've never come close before, I don't think, and I get the idea they get bigger crit-love outside of the US.)

I'm guessing Raphael Saadiq could be top 10, though.

(And yeah, that metacritic top 10 is useless in predicting Pazz & Jop; always is. Though if people think of Steinski as a reissue -- assuming there's a reissue ballot -- that could do well there.)

(And okay, maybe Top 20 for Saadiq -- which I don't like all that much myself -- is more realistic.)

Curious how people think these will do: Black Kids, No Age, Fucked Up, The Knux, Ne-Yo, James McMurtry. (Some probably won't place at all, though I bet Ne-Yo does well.)

"Swagga Like Us" could do well singles-wise too, right? (Unless people hate it and I just never noticed.) What about "Love Lockdown"?

it'll be top 10, maybe top 5. no way a sweep.

― some dude, Tuesday, October 28, 2008 10:14 AM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I'd put $100 on it. That's how sure I am.

1/10,000th of a milli.

Hercules & Love Affair's "Blind" may have a shot too.

"Love Lockdown" top 5 for sure.

Curious how people think these will do: Black Kids, No Age, Fucked Up, The Knux, Ne-Yo, James McMurtry. (Some probably won't place at all, though I bet Ne-Yo does well.)

I don't think enough people are familiar with the Knux (is that record even out yet?) and Fucked Up. Black Kids got a little bit of a critical drubbing but should do decent with rockist alt-weekly editors. No Age probably has a placing, followed by Ne-Yo.

I'm probably the biggest indie apologist on ilx, but I can't figure out the Fleet Foxes love to save my life. Love Bon Iver though. Was MGMT this year? Not saying it deserves to be on that list (which has at least 2 things I've never heard, and 1 thing I've never even HEARD of), but they got HUGE, right?

Their contingent will consist of voters too young to remember Crosby, Stills, and Nash.

xhuxk, is anything from the country side of the fence likely to do well on either poll this year? (not counting the inevitable DBT placing, of course).

is anything from the country side of the fence likely to do well on either poll

I dunno, alt-country stuff like Lucinda Williams and that McMurtry album and Hayes Carrl will get some votes, though maybe not enough to place. As for Nashville stuff, I definitely won't be the only person to vote for Jamey Johnson, but I doubt it will get enough support to make a difference. Um...Willie Nelson (with or without Branford Marsalis)? Dolly Parton? I dunno.

Was wondering about token metal/hard rock finishers, too: Harvey Milk? Made Out of Babies? Metallica?? Guns N Roses???

i take it there's nothing like last years Miranda Lambert album for folks to rally round this time out then?

I'd add Kathleen Edwards to that alt-country crop.

"what?"

(you must imagine this being said by will forte on last week's SNL)

"Love Lockdown" top 5 for sure.

― Whiney G. Soundgarden (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, October 28, 2008 10:56 AM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

more crazy pills! "Stronger" wasn't top 5 last year, and that song's much closer to "Stronger" in terms of popularity than "Gold Digger."

i take it there's nothing like last years Miranda Lambert album for folks to rally round this time out then?

Not that I can think of. Unless people start rallying around Taylor Swift when it comes out (which is possible, but not real likely.)

Guess Kid Rock "All Summer Long" could conceivably place in the singles, if that counts. Though I bet he doesn't do as good as Katy Perry.

Ashton Shepherd is the lone country choice on Sasha Frere-Jones album list on his blog. Maybe she'll get some votes.

stefan's stats on Acclaimed Music Forum collates critics data from online and print sources

UPDATE : 01/10/08 : MEGA-CRITIC : Best Reviewed Albums Of 2008 So Far
http://pub37.bravenet.com/forum/3172289350/show/904435

THE MEGA-CRITIC-CHARTS :

The current position is followed by last month´s position in brackets, then the adjusted score, followed by the average rating and the number of reviews in brackets.

The scores after the title are the individual positions/adjusted scores for Europe, the UK and the US, followed by the current Metacritic score.

01. (01 ) 76,56 - 88,06 (24 ) Fleet Foxes ´Fleet Foxes´
EU : 01. 79,83 - UK : 02. 76,53 - US : 04. 71,96 - MC : 87

02. (02 ) 74,07 - 83,69 (26 ) Portishead ´Third´
EU : 02. 74,48 - UK : 05. 74,49 - US : 03. 73,13 - MC : 85

03. (03 ) 73,15 - 82,40 (26 ) Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds ´Dig!!! Lazarus Dig!!!´
EU : 08. 70,29 - UK : 02. 76,53 - US : 02. 74,11 - MC : 87

04. (00 ) 72,28 - 82,82 (22 ) TV On The Radio ´Dear Science´
EU : 21. 67,91 - UK : 08. 73,86 - US : 01. 76,67 - MC : 91

05. (05 ) 71,87 - 81,76 (23 ) Bon Iver ´For Emma, Forever Ago´
EU : 10. 70,19 - UK : 01. 77,55 - US : 19. 68,63 - MC : 89

06. (04 ) 71,84 - 80,92 (25 ) The Hold Steady ´Stay Positive´
EU : 11. 70,14 - UK : 04. 75,51 - US : 06. 70,80 - MC : 85

07. (06 ) 70,74 - 79,73 (24 ) Hercules And Love Affair ´Hercules And Love Affair´
EU : 23. 67,88 - UK : 05. 74,49 - US : 05. 71,18 - MC : 86

08. (07 ) 70,63 - 78,89 (26 ) Vampire Weekend ´Vampire Weekend´
EU : 06. 70,97 - UK : 13. 71,43 - US : 11. 69,46 - MC : 82

09. (09 ) 69,77 - 81,19 (18 ) Randy Newman ´Harps & Angels´
EU : 03. 72,12 - UK : 43. 67,65 - US : 40. 67,08 - MC : 85

10. (08 ) 69,53 - 81,47 (17 ) Lil Wayne ´Tha Carter III´
EU : 05. 71,06 - UK : 43. 67,65 - US : 13. 69,22 - MC : 82

11. (10 ) 69,26 - 80,39 (18 ) Erykah Badu ´New Amerykah : Part One (4th World War)´
EU : 15. 68,60 - UK : 32. 69,23 - US : 08. 70,11 - MC : 82

12. (11 ) 68,86 - 79,18 (19 ) Silver Jews ´Lookout Mountain, Lookout Sea´
EU : 20. 68,03 - UK : 16. 70,51 - US : 20. 68,53 - MC : 78

13. (12 ) 67,94 - 78,91 (17 ) Elbow ´The Seldom Seen Kid´
EU : 51. 64,42 - UK : 05. 74,49 - US : 94. 64,15 - MC : 82

14. (13 ) 67,87 - 75,96 (23 ) The Last Shadow Puppets ´The Age Of The Understatement´
EU : 04. 71,53 - UK : 71. 66,33 - US : 00000000 - MC : 77

15. (14 ) 67,66 - 78,47 (17 ) No Age ´Nouns´
EU : 16. 68,56 - UK : 00000000 - US : 18. 68,73 - MC : 79

16. (15 ) 67,61 - 75,93 (22 ) Sigur Ros ´Med Sud I Eyrum Vid Spilum Endalaust´
EU : 12. 69,89 - UK : 23. 69,39 - US : 00000000 - MC : 81

17. (16 ) 67,44 - 79,53 (15 ) The Bug ´London Zoo´
EU : 56. 64,14 - UK : 12. 71,59 - US : 39. 67,10 - MC : 90

18. (17 ) 67,38 - 76,90 (19 ) The Dodos ´Visiter´
EU : 45. 64,91 - UK : 19. 70,46 - US : 33. 67,50 - MC : 83

19. (18 ) 67,12 - 75,60 (21 ) Black Mountain ´In The Future´
EU : 19. 68,19 - UK : 61. 67,05 - US : 55. 65,88 - MC : 79

20. (19 ) 66,90 - 74,54 (23 ) MGMT ´Oracular Spectacular´
EU : 09. 70,24 - UK : 21. 70,41 - US : 00000000 - MC : 76

21. (20 ) 66,86 - 73,88 (25 ) Hot Chip ´Made In The Dark´
EU : 36. 65,87 - UK : 00000000 - US : 10. 69,51 - MC : 78

22. (21 ) 66,51 - 74,69 (21 ) The Gutter Twins ´Saturnalia´
EU : 14. 68,85 - UK : 40. 67,95 - US : 00000000 - MC : 80

23. (00 ) 66,50 - 82,09 (11 ) Glasvegas ´Glasvegas´
EU : 13. 69,41 - UK : 23. 69,39 - US : 00000000 - MC : 83

24. (22 ) 66,43 - 73,26 (25 ) R.E.M. ´Accelerate´
EU : 58. 63,93 - UK : 23. 69,39 - US : 36. 67,35 - MC : 79

25. (23 ) 66,41 - 75,89 (18 ) Drive-By Truckers ´Brighter Than Creation´s Dark´
EU : 07. 70,70 - UK : 00000000 - US : 81. 64,71 - MC : 83

26. (24 ) 66,20 - 75,56 (18 ) Los Campesinos! ´Hold On Now,Youngster´
EU : 63. 63,68 - UK : 37. 68,37 - US : 38. 67,22 - MC : 81

27. (40 ) 66,17 - 79,16 (13 ) Late Of The Pier ´Fantasy Black Channel´
EU : 53. 64,28 - UK : 09. 73,47 - US : 00000000 - MC : 00

28. (25 ) 66,10 - 73,71 (22 ) Santogold ´Santogold´
EU : 26. 67,58 - UK : 00000000 - US : 15. 69,13 - MC : 77

29. (26 ) 65,83 - 73,32 (22 ) Wolf Parade ´At Mount Zoomer´
EU : 24. 67,84 - UK : 00000000 - US : 23. 68,21 - MC : 78

30. (27 ) 65,70 - 77,36 (14 ) Bonnie ´Prince´ Billy ´Lie Down In The Light´
EU : 42. 65,18 - UK : 43. 67,65 - US : 82. 64,52 - MC : 80

31. (28 ) 65,67 - 73,43 (21 ) The Black Keys ´Attack And Release´
EU : 30. 66,69 - UK : 71. 66,33 - US : 00000000 - MC : 76

32. (29 ) 65,47 - 77,85 (13 ) Robert Forster ´The Evangelist´
EU : 22. 67,89 - UK : 92. 65,52 - US : 00000000 - MC : 81

33. (37 ) 65,46 - 72,77 (22 ) Lykke Li ´Youth Novels´
EU : 34. 65,90 - UK : 71. 66,33 - US : 00000000 - MC : 76

34. (30 ) 65,33 - 71,98 (24 ) The Breeders ´Mountain Battles´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 37. 68,37 - US : 16. 68,93 - MC : 75

35. (31 ) 65,33 - 74,71 (17 ) Why? ´Alopecia´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 00000000 - US : 09. 70,10 - MC : 76

36. (32 ) 65,31 - 71,68 (25 ) Magnetic Fields ´Distortion´
EU : 25. 67,78 - UK : 00000000 - US : 33. 67,50 - MC : 79

37. (33 ) 65,24 - 71,58 (25 ) Cat Power ´Jukebox´
EU : 29. 66,72 - UK : 00000000 - US : 73. 64,90 - MC : 72

38. (34 ) 65,24 - 73,58 (19 ) Spiritualized ´Songs In A & E´
EU : 93. 62,19 - UK : 61. 67,05 - US : 37. 67,28 - MC : 76

39. (35 ) 65,20 - 71,52 (25 ) Beck ´Modern Guilt´
EU : 49. 64,65 - UK : 00000000 - US : 56. 65,80 - MC : 77

40. (36 ) 65,04 - 75,47 (15 ) Al Green ´Lay It Down´
EU : 41. 65,29 - UK : 00000000 - US : 35. 67,44 - MC : 81

41. (37 ) 65,00 - 74,75 (16 ) Neon Neon ´Stainless Style´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 21. 70,41 - US : 90. 64,39 - MC : 79

41. (37 ) 65,00 - 72,43 (21 ) Joan As Police Woman ´To Survive´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 13. 71,43 - US : 00000000 - MC 76

43. (00 ) 64,96 - 76,92 (13 ) Flying Lotus ´Los Angeles´
EU : 68. 63,45 - UK : 00000000 - US : 42. 66,71 - MC : 00

44. (41 ) 64,78 - 77,58 (12 ) Ry Cooder ´I, Flathead´
EU : 17. 68,51 - UK : 00000000 - US : 00000000 - MC : 00

45. (42 ) 64,72 - 74,93 (15 ) Wire ´Object 47´
EU : 75. 63,19 - UK : 00000000 - US : 21. 68,48 - MC : 77

46. (43 ) 64,72 - 73,22 (18 ) Cass Mccombs ´Dropping The Writ´
EU : 48. 64,68 - UK : 28. 69,32 - US : 00000000 - MC : 00

47. (44 ) 64,67 - 78,55 (11 ) Earth ´The Bees Made Honey In The Lion´s Skull´
EU : 67. 63,51 - UK : 58. 67,24 - US : 96. 64,03 - MC : 00

48. (45 ) 64,59 - 72,58 (19 ) The Mountain Goats ´Heretic Pride´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 61. 67,05 - US : 13. 69,22 - MC : 74

49. (46 ) 64,59 - 70,42 (26 ) Conor Oberst ´Conor Oberst´
EU : 33. 66,10 - UK : 00000000 - US : 00000000 - MC : 75

50. (47 ) 64,53 - 78,27 (11 ) Frightened Rabbit ´The Midnight Organ Fight´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 77. 66,18 - US : 77. 64,76 - MC : 80

THE BUBBLERS :

53. (00 ) 64,46 - 77,00 (12 ) Roots Manuva ´Slime & Reason´
EU : 55. 64,15 - UK : 28. 69,32 - US : 00000000 - MC : 79

55. (56 ) 64,45 - 74,47 (15 ) Lindström ´Where You Go I Go Too´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 77. 66,18 - US : 26. 68,04 - MC : 82

56. (00 ) 64,44 - 72,78 (18 ) Calexico ´Carried To Dust´
EU : 89. 62,46 - UK : 83. 65,91 - US : 64. 65,61 - MC : 77

59. (96 ) 64,29 - 74,20 (15 ) The Cool Kids ´The Bake Sale´
EU : 68. 63,45 - UK : 00000000 - US : 00000000 - MC : 78

64. (00 ) 63,91 - 72,41 (17 ) Metallica ´Death Magnetic´
EU : 87. 62,66 - UK : 32. 69,23 - US : 00000000 - MC : 77

66. (00 ) 63,81 - 74,07 (14 ) okkervil River ´The Stand Ins´
EU : 60. 63,86 - UK . 00000000 - US : 32. 67,55 - MC : 78

72. (88 ) 63,49 - 70,87 (19 ) Paul Weller ´22 Dreams´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 16. 70,51 - US : 00000000 - MC : 77

75. (00 ) 63,33 - 74,00 (13 ) Giant Sand ´proVISIONS´
EU : 47. 64,68 - UK : 00000000 - US : 00000000 - MC : 74

93. (00 ) 62,75 - 72,21 (14 ) Bodies Of Water ´A Certain Feeling´
EU : 64. 63,65 - UK : 00000000 - US : 82. 64,51 - MC : 74

FURTHER EU-POSITIONS :

18. (17 ) 68,27 Opeth ´Watershed´
27. (25 ) 67,50 Madrugada ´Madrugada´
28. (26 ) 67,02 The Notwist ´The Devil, You And Me´
31. (00 ) 66,42 Brian Wilson ´That Lucky Old Sun´
32. (30 ) 66,17 Elvis Costello & The Imposters ´Momofuku´
35. (32 ) 65,89 Death Cab For Cutie ´Narrow Stairs´
37. (34 ) 65,77 Willard Grant Conspiracy ´Pilgrim Road´
38. (35 ) 65,70 Tindersticks ´The Hungry Saw´
39. (00 ) 65,61 Ron Sexsmith ´Exit Strategy Of The Soul´
40. (36 ) 65,49 Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanegan ´Sunday At Devil Dirt´
43. (38 ) 65,00 Sascha Funke ´Mango´
43. (38 ) 65,00 Emmylou Harris ´All I Intended To Be´
46. (41 ) 64,90 Be Your Own Pet ´Get Awkward´
50. (45 ) 64,48 My Morning Jacket ´Evil Urges´

FURTHER UK-POSITIONS :

10. (09 ) 72,45 British Sea Power ´Do You Like Rock Music´
11. (10 ) 72,41 Plush ´Fed´
15. (14 ) 70,59 Eliza Carthy ´Dreams Of Breathing Underwater´
16. (15 ) 70,51 Johnny Flynn ´A Larum´
19. (19 ) 70,46 White Denim ´Workout Holiday´
23. (23 ) 69,39 These New Puritans ´Beat Pyramid´
23. (23 ) 69,39 Mystery Jets ´Twenty One´
28. (27 ) 69,32 Wild Beasts ´Limbo Panto´
28. (00 ) 69,32 David Holmes ´The Holy Pictures´
32. (29 ) 69,23 DeVotchKa ´A Mad And Faithful Telling´
32. (29 ) 69,23 Teddy Thompson ´A Piece Of What You Need´
36. (32 ) 69,12 Thea Gilmore ´Liejacker´
37. (33 ) 68,37 The Raconteurs ´Consolers Of The Lonely´
40. (36 ) 67,95 Cadence Weapon ´Afterparty Babies´
40. (36 ) 67,95 Sparks ´Exotic Creatures Of The Deep´
43. (39 ) 67,65 Toumani Diabaté ´The Mandé Variations´
43. (39 ) 67,65 Benga ´Diary Of An Afro Warrior´
43. (39 ) 67,65 Fuck Buttons ´Street Horrrsing´
43. (39 ) 67,65 Flight Of The Conchords ´Flight Of The Conchords´
43. (39 ) 67,65 Kasai All Stars ´In The 7th Moon ...´
43. (00 ) 67,65 James Yorkston ´When The Haar Rolls In´
43. (00 ) 67,65 Lindsey Buckingham ´Gift Of Screws´

FURTHER US-POSITIONS :

07. (06 ) 70,48 GAS ´Nah und Fern´
12. (11 ) 69,24 Robyn ´Robyn´ (2005)
17. (16 ) 68,78 Times New Viking ´Rip It Off´
22. (21 ) 68,33 Torche ´Meanderthal´
24. (00 ) 68,17 High Places ´High Places´
25. (00 ) 68,06 Shugo Tokumaru ´Exit´
27. (24 ) 67,72 Ellen Allien ´Sool´
28. (25 ) 67,68 Matmos ´Supreme Balloon´
29. (26 ) 67,65 Destroyer ´Trouble In Dreams´
30. (27 ) 67,56 Kelley Polar ´I Need You To Hold On ...´
30. (00 ) 76,56 Harvey Milk ´Life ... The Best Game In Town´
41. (36 ) 66,81 Food For Animals ´Belly´
43. (38 ) 66,67 Beach House ´Devotion´
43. (38 ) 66,67 Health ´Disco´
45. (40 ) 66,53 The Music Tapes ´Music Tapes For Clouds & Tornadoes´
46. (41 ) 66,39 Eat Skull ´Sick To Death´
47. (42 ) 66,37 Islands ´Arm´s Way´
48. (43 ) 66,30 Alejandro Escovedo ´Real Animal´
49. (44 ) 66,25 Leila ´Blood, Looms And Blooms´
50. (45 ) 66,13 Jonny Greenwood ´Let There Be Blood´
50. (45 ) 66,13 Karen Dalton ´Green Rocky Road´

ENJOY !!

Next update on October 31st.

hahah, no mention of the Hold Steady album yet. oh, how the mighty have fallen. it's a really good record, tho.

get those eyes scanned - bloated basic trad rock n roll at 6

06. (04 ) 71,84 - 80,92 (25 ) The Hold Steady ´Stay Positive´
EU : 11. 70,14 - UK : 04. 75,51 - US : 06. 70,80 - MC : 85

mega-critic methodology is what i refer as the critical mainstream

ABOUT ´MEGA-CRITIC´
http://pub37.bravenet.com/forum/3172289350/show/820019

ABOUT ´MEGA-CRITIC´

INTENT :

´MEGA-CRITIC´ ARE THE UP-TO DATE CHARTS OF THE RUNNING YEAR´S BEST REVIEWED ALBUMS. THEY ARE PUBLISHED EXCLUSIVELY HERE IN THE ´ACCLAIMED MUSIC FORUM´ AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH MONTH.

SOURCES :

THE CHARTS ARE CALCULATED ON THE BASE OF 26 SOURCES IN 3 REGIONS :

EUROPE / DAGBLADET (NO) - EXPRESSEN (SW) - GAFFA (DK) - HUMO (BE) - MONDOSONORO (ES) - MUSIK-EXPRESS (GE) - NOJESGUIDEN (SW) - PLATTENTESTS (GE) - ROCK&FOLK (FR) - SPIEGEL (DE) - SVD (SW)

UK / DROWNED IN SOUND - GUARDIAN - MUSICOMH - NME - OBSERVER MUSIC MONTHLY - Q - UNCUT

US / COKEMACHINEGLOW - PITCHFORKMEDIA - POPMATTERS - PREFIX - ROLLING STONE - SLANT - SPIN - TINYMIXTAPES

no, i noticed that. i meant they hadn't been mentioned on this thread prior to that post. obviously they still get lots of love, just not much from around these parts i guess.

xp

Pitchfork's 50 Highest Rated Albums of 2008
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/kenyon330/pitchforks_50_highest_rated_albums_of_2008

x-post Like metacritic he arbitrarily uses only certain critics.

I guess those are the mega critics (r'n'b, hiphop and other non-rock sources need not apply). Ho-hum.

hahah, no mention of the Hold Steady album yet. oh, how the mighty have fallen. it's a really good record, tho.

― Ioannis, Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:02 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Hold Steady will do well. I don't know why you have to hear someone say it.

The Bon Iver and Fleet Foxes both seem pretty thin to me.

Ashton Shepherd is the lone country choice on Sasha Frere-Jones album list on his blog.

Actually he's also got Taylor Swift at #6, though for all I know he added her today, after I mentioned her upthread. (Album's still not out yet, I don't think.)

And duh, Opeth could be the token metal placer. (And Alejandro Escovedo could be the big alt-country album, despite having no country per se' on his album.)

Also, I've never cared about them myself, but I wouldn't be surprised if My Morning Jacket finish high, with lots of support from daily paper critics in flyover country.

Chinese Democracy in Top 10?

I could see Chinese Democracy placing in the top 10, assuming it's not awful. Taylor Swift also sounds like a good chance to be the token country album and re: Kathleen Edwards upthread - she's on my top 10 list.

There's still a Fall Out Boy album coming out, and they did well on the Singles list last year IIRC? Also, I figure Adele's single charts well, and didn't the Stephen Malkmus album come out this year? That seems like a good shot for top 20 at least. As for #1, I really wouldn't be shocked with Vampire Weekend taking it.

Quick Q about Paper Planes - how does that qualify for this year? Is it because it was used in Pineapple Express? Wasn't it a single in 2007?

year of widest impact rule + the previous polls' carryover votes (as Chuck already mentioned).

songs that broke this year but aren't from this year are eligible, FWIW. take "Rehab"--got some UK votes last year, will likely get non-UK votes this year. perfectly OK.

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― Matos W.K., Sunday, December 9, 2007 10:13 PM Bookmark

joemc, aren't you asumming that it will be actually released?

"Paper Planes" peaked pretty high on last year's lists (#6 on P&J, #3 on Idolator), so it would probably take a lot of critics willing to vote for it 2 years in a row to get it high on this year's lists.

There's still a Fall Out Boy album coming out, and they did well on the Singles list last year IIRC?

Not really ("This Ain't A Scene" was I think the top 100, but nowhere near "Sugar, We're Going Down" placing at #30 in '05). Plus they kind of captured the zeitgeist last year and were still only moderately embraced by critics, and I can't see the new album doing as well commercially or critically. Not a factor in P&J at all this year.

What will the two token electronic records be?

Herc And Love Affair, then Lindstrom probably?

do Portishead count?

"Paper Planes" peaked pretty high on last year's lists (#6 on P&J, #3 on Idolator), so it would probably take a lot of critics willing to vote for it 2 years in a row to get it high on this year's lists.

Nah, it would have to be different critics voting for it, not the same critics; votes duplicated that way wouldn't count the second time, assuming the carryover math is done correctly. But I can see a number of older, more mainstream, middle American critics who aren't particurlarly otherwise M.I.A. fans voting for the song this year after hearing it on the radio, plus maybe some hip-hop critics, plus people who voted for the album last year but now think of "Paper Planes" more as a single. It would have to get at least half as many new voters this year for the years' two totals to be added together; not a foregone conclusion, but probably not impossible, either.

dr. phil, I want to know what are your favorite duranguese and banda and norteno cds for the year? You used to (still ?) write about such genres, right?

― curmudgeon, Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:27 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Thanks for thinking of me, but I've really fallen off. Jenni Rivera's album is wonderful, and "La Cumbia del Rio" by Los Pikadientes is sort of conceptually wonderful in an "A Milli" way, but that's all I got.

ah, OK, thanks for clearing that up. and to answer your question from earlier, no, I don't think "Swagga Like Us" was really liked enough to be a factor in these polls.

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"Paper Planes" has felt to me like a bona fide 2008 single. In 2007, it still felt like an album track.

This is a pretty stinky year for music. Especially disappointing after a very strong 2007.

hopefully Chinese Democracy will more than make up for the year's deficiencies. ;^)

dr. phil, are you formerly "unperson"?

This is a pretty stinky year for music. Especially disappointing after a very strong 2007.

every fucking year we got this nonsense

Dr. Phil is not Unperson.

ok, thx

Was wondering about token metal/hard rock finishers, too: Harvey Milk? Made Out of Babies? Metallica?? Guns N Roses???

― xhuxk, Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:14 PM (2 days ago) Bookm

I'm betting Made Out of Babies. "Weird" without being too weird, which the others can't really claim. Or maybe I've just heard the Harvey Milk too many times.

I don't get Chuck's "all hipsters like Made Out Of Babies" thread from a while back. The only hipsters I know that like them are, like, me and skot. none of the hip mags or BLOLGS cover them really that i've seen...

My bets for top ten (no order): H&LA, VW, TVotR, Wayne, Badu, Foxes, Portishead, Kanye?, Santogold?, Hold Steady?, Bad Seeds?, Randy Newman in token fogey slot?

kanye won't come out in time

the only competition for wayne are badu and tvotr in albums and maybe "blind" for singles

there isn't a pop song that's going to crossover "umbrella" style more than "a milli" and there isn't an indie song that's going to galvanize like "all my friends"

i don't see how "a milli" doesn't win this year

maybe vampire weekend for albums but i think they are too handicapped by haterz to break out of the 3-5 range

xp Really? I've seen a lot of praise for it on ILX/blogs, I guess, but I don't see what's so special about it, and it certainly doesn't feel like it had as wide a pop-cultural impact as the last couple of P&J winners ("Rehab," "Crazy").

yeah idk about p&j but i think it will certainly take idolator at the very least by default

i just dunno what else is galvanizing tons of people this year besides wayne and that's his best, big single

This has been a great year for metal, relatively boring year (so far) for rap, and a mildly entertaining year for chart pop.

I can't tell how "I Kissed a Girl" will place. It seems like it is that kind of zeitgeisty pop culture song that often get rewarded in year-end polls (it's merited a SNL parody, for instance), but so many people hate it.

I reckon MGMT will do very well indeed. It's probably the closest thing to a consensus pick for people this year, I hear it absolutely everywhere. Much much much more than Vampire Weekend.

iirc crank dat got one vote in idolator last year xp

yeah i forgot about mgmt

I don't really see where Wayne = default #1 for either format, although I'm sure the album and "A Milli" will place top ten and "Lollipop" will place top 20.

"Crank Dat" got 8 votes in Idolator and placed at #51

I reckon MGMT will do very well indeed. It's probably the closest thing to a consensus pick for people this year, I hear it absolutely everywhere. Much much much more than Vampire Weekend.

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― Tim F, Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:03 PM Bookmark

Is this an Aussie oddity? As far as I know I haven't heard MGMT, where I hear VW about occasionally.

Vampire Weekend plays very well in parts of the critical world that aren't OMG INTERNET STFU NOOB all the time: rockist print guys and newspaper d00ds who are ALWAYS well-represented in P&J

Also, remember that haterz don't really count for anything.

OTM

yeah i guess i meant that i expect that vampire weekend will have lots of 1-5 placements but not a lot of 6-10 ones since most people either really like them or really hate them

ive got nothing to corroborate that assumption obv

Ha ha I hear about Vampire Weekend but never hear them played.

MGMT actually got to number 6 in our national album charts which suggests maybe it is an Oz oddity.

I like Vampire Weekend btw.

I should probably point out here that there won't be another Idolator poll. The last one nearly killed me.

Like a few others here, I'll wager Lil Wayne wins album and "Paper Planes" and "A Milli" photo-finish for single.

kanye won't come out in time

― jordan s (J0rdan S.), Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:39 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it'll be out late November and probably leaked before then, so people will have well over a month to digest it by the time these ballots are due. not that I think it'll make the top 10, Graduation barely did (6 on P&J and 8 on Idolator) and that was much more of a sure thing, but time isn't really the issue.

I don't think "I Kissed A Girl" will do anything, big big hits on that level get met with indifference on these polls all the time and get like just enough votes to crack the top 100.

xpost - bummer to hear no more Idolator poll! I was wondering why I hadn't heard any internal rumblings about it yet.

yeah i forgot kanye got pushed up to november but no one can make an accurate judgment about an album in one month (esp one that will be as divisive as 808s) so it might make the top 10 if people wildly inflate their opinions or it might be embarrassingly low if opinion goes the other way

some people can't make an accurate judgement in one year, myself included sometimes, but fuck it, i'm grabbing albums off the shelves and changing my list on Christmas eve most years. granted, there doesn't seem to be a very strong history of November/December releases placing on P&J but these days big releases run their course much quicker and I think if people feel strongly about something that wouldn't hold it back. the buzz on 808s is pretty damn bad outside of ILM and, like, universecity comments sections, though, I think even the inevitable defenders will be a small group.

u probably right

i'm jealous of your short post, i want to make one too.

MGMT actually got to number 6 in our national album charts which suggests maybe it is an Oz oddity.

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― Tim F, Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:49 PM Bookmark

Yeah, they only placed at #60 in the US. (VW's album reached #17.)

some dude, u from baltimore?

matos, :^(

i dunno, call me an old fogey but, like Chuck, i just can't see Portishead placing top ten (particularly in light of Matos' unhappy news), and the Hold Steady "love" doesn't seem all that enthusiastic to me. otherwise, all y'all are probably way otm as per usual.

some dude = alex in baltimore

oh boy! right agin'.

I don't get Chuck's "all hipsters like Made Out Of Babies" thread from a while back

Uh, maybe because I never said that (or started a thread to that effect)? Though who know, maybe I did over-estimate their hipster appeal regardless.

i meant rhapsody article (plus I phrased it wrong)

Though admittedly awarded a mere “8” out of “10” in Decibel, The Ruiner – the third album from Brooklyn’s three-guy, one-grrrl Made Out of Babies – seems destined to wind up the '08 metal album of choice for, at very least, self-consciously hip young people who don’t listen to metal a whole lot. Some of them, predictably enough, even deny it’s a metal album at all.

All, I'm saying is, I think 2008 might go without a token hipster-endorsed metal album. Metallica will be the highest ranked metal album for sure, but I think any of the stuff that hipsters will stump for (Harvey Milk, Boris, Genghis Tron) probably won't place at all and none of them saw the heat that Mastodon, SunnO))) and Pig Destroyer saw in their respective years.

though Made Out Of Babies and Torche deserve more love than they get, IMHO

My bets for top ten (no order): H&LA, VW, TVotR, Wayne, Badu, Foxes, Portishead, Kanye?, Santogold?, Hold Steady?, Bad Seeds?, Randy Newman in token fogey slot?

Bad Seeds? Really?? Has Nick Cave ever done that good in P&J? I realize his critic appeal has inexplicably risen as his music has gotten even more boring in recent years (believe me, back in Birthday Party and even Kicking Against The Pricks days, almost no U.S. critics gave a shit, which actually used to bug me back then oddly enough), but Top 10 still seems like an extreme longshot to me.

(Though on the other hand, wasn't the Cave album like a #1 album in England or something? That really surprised me, though maybe his albums always do that well there, and I just never noticed before. Not sure how that would translate to Pazz & Jop votes either way, though.)

I don't think "I Kissed A Girl" will do anything, big big hits on that level get met with indifference on these polls all the time and get like just enough votes to crack the top 100.

Not sure I buy this. I'm not going to go back and do granular research on the issue, but it seems to me that, in the past, similiarly inescpabale new wavey novelty-type hits (whatever you can say about "I Kissed a Girl," you can't say it's generic) have generally picked up enough votes to at least place toward the bottom of the Top 30 or 40. Just like with Vampire Weekend (and maybe Black Kids?), the fact that lots of critics hate Katy Perry won't count against her Pazz & Jop wise. But we'll see.

mgmt was pretty huge here rev, which i can ascertain from the fact that ive heard that song a million times unintentionally which doesnt happen too often w/ indie rock favs

according to metacritic:

1 Steinski: What Does It All Mean? 1983-2006 Retrospective 90
2 The Bug: London Zoo 90
3 Plush: Fed 89
4 Bon Iver: For Emma, Forever Ago 89
5 TV On The Radio: Dear Science, 88
6 Fleet Foxes: Fleet Foxes 87
7 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds: Dig!!! Lazarus Dig!!! 87
8 Robyn: Robyn 86
9 Hercules And Love Affair: Hercules And Love Affair 86
10 Protest The Hero: Fortress 86

jeez, i've heard all of two of those.

― THE TOWER OF HUMANOID ANTIBODIES!!! (Ioannis), Sunday, October 26, 2008 11:38 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wtf didnt that plush album come out like 3 years ago???

Re MGMT, "Electric Feel" is an even bigger hit here than "Time To Pretend". And the second song on the album ("Weekend Wars" I think??) has been used in a massive, inescapable ad campaign. It's weird.

new wavey novelty-type hits...have generally picked up enough votes to at least place

A couple Ting Tings singles (not nearly as inescapable as Perry but they actually got modern rock airplay in the States) could benefit from this principle, too. (And maybe even their album, too, though I kinda doubt that.)

The only deserving winner:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/extendedplay/images/2007/11/20/swift300.jpg

Hmmm...so maybe she'll win the Miranda Lambert Memorial Wish I Would Have Voted For Her Superior Debut Album Award after all.

wtf didnt that plush album come out like 3 years ago???

It was Japan only then. Everywhere else got Underfed, the demos album.

Another long-shot question: Does "Yes We Can" by Will I. Am. (or anything else election related -- Cocoa Tea's Barack Omaba song? - nah, probably not) get enough votes to place toward the bottom of the singles Top 40? (And do they do better if Obama wins than if he doesn't?)

I like Vampire Weekend btw.

― Tim F, Thursday, October 30, 2008 5:49 AM (8 hours ago)

huge sadface :(( tim, it's terrible. his VOICE.

I should probably point out here that there won't be another Idolator poll. The last one nearly killed me.

even huger sadface :(((

Don't worry Lex it's not gonna make my top twenty or anything.

I don't think anything Obama-related will have any effect on P&J, at least not this year. Does anyone actually like "Yes We Can"?

fwiw i agree that mgmt have quietly become ubiquitous in the right circles to suggest a high placing here.

haters won't hurt katy perry but i haven't seen a great deal of rapture for it either, unlike rehab or ella-ella-ella. what does it say that the biggest, zeitgeistiest pop hit of 08 inspires more vocal hate than anything else.

'american boy' maybe?

i like the H&LA album but it's being so overrated. can't see it coming near even my top 30.

has anyone mentioned santogold yet? noticed a lot of love for that at the time. it's the only indie album of the year i like, anyway.

Lex you will like Gang Gang Dance.

Does anyone actually like "Yes We Can"?

Nobody I know likes it, but you'd be surprised what well-meaning Pazz & Joppers will vote for sometimes. (I'd say "corny Pazz & Joppers," but I actually think it would be kind of sweet if people vote for that song, even though I can't stand it myself.)

haters won't hurt katy perry but i haven't seen a great deal of rapture for it either, unlike rehab or ella-ella-ella. what does it say that the biggest, zeitgeistiest pop hit of 08 inspires more vocal hate than anything else.

It says it definitely won't finish in the top 2, like rehab or ella ella ella. But who said it would? # 35 and # 2 aren't exactly the same thing.

Vampire Weekend is an okay new wave album. Though I replayed it this morning and it sounded thinner than I thought, mainly because of the guy's voice. (Not sure if any potential voters will come to the same conclusion when they re-play it themselves though.)

i love gang gang dance! xp

Nobody I know likes it, but you'd be surprised what well-meaning Pazz & Joppers will vote for sometimes. (I'd say "corny Pazz & Joppers," but I actually think it would be kind of sweet if people vote for that song, even though I can't stand it myself.)

huh, i just remembered that year when that "george bush doens't care about black people" thing placed.

the mariah album really should've eaten this summer btw, huge zeigeisty pop hits and all, but though it's still almost certainly going to be my no 2, i feel a little embarrassed repping so hard for it after she effed up its singles campaign so spectacularly

yeah, I almost mentioned that horrible Legendary K.O. thing in my last post, because I really think lefty critics are a lot more likely to put a song like that (or, ugh, "Rock The Casbah") on as a 'protest ballot,' then to include a song merely to celebrate Obama (of which there are many, none of which seem to be any good). maybe if the election gets robbed again there'd be a big angry anthem. (xpost)

wtf didnt that plush album come out like 3 years ago???

― 888 (ice crӕm), Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:08 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

It was Japan only then. Everywhere else got Underfed, the demos album.

― cold and super-rational with anger (Raw Patrick), Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:42 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol internet

maybe if the election gets robbed again there'd be a big angry anthem

"Born in the Land of the KKK"! get crackin', Bruce.

has anyone mentioned santogold yet?

Yeah, it's been mentioned. "L.E.S. Artists" will do real well as a single (maybe top five, as somebody said above); album will do respectably too, I assume. But what about her Diplo mixtape? I like that more than the "real" album myself, and M.I.A.'s Diplo mixtape placed back before anybody even knew who M.I.A. was, right? Plus the Santogold mix got reviewed in Rolling Stone, so I assume it's been heard pretty widely. Then again, people having to split votes between two Santogold albums could potentially hurt both album's chances, too.

I don't think anything Obama-related will have any effect on P&J, at least not this year. Does anyone actually like "Yes We Can"?

― some dude, Thursday, October 30, 2008 7:02 AM Bookmark

Dear gawd. I briefly roomed with an Obama field organizer who was a giant cornball. I was listening to something or other and he asked me, "Can you play 'Yes We Can'? It would make me really feel better." I looked at him like he was retarded.

Anyway, I don't think something like "Yes We Can" will do as well as "George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People", because unlike that one, there's no novelty factor.

serious lols at that story

Lil Wayne will not win album of the year because only rap albums that seem to criticize or investigate rap itself end up winning.

dude sings as much as he raps on it and twiddles a guitar on a bunch of songs, wouldn't that count?

Lil Wayne will not win album of the year because only rap albums that seem to criticize or investigate rap itself end up winning.

― Dimension 5ive, Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:09 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

"dr. carter"

is it cool to put Boredoms on my list or is it like OMG JAPANESE IMPORT ON TORRENTS IN 2007 GET A LATE PASS

i usually get annoyed when xhuxk says this but honestly if it's in your honest top 10 you might as well list it. i mean, why wait and see what year it may or may not get a U.S. release.

well it was released in the us in 08, but all my mentalist borebuddies were over it by fall 2008

fall 2007, i mean

i love it

i would say if it wasn't released in any country this year, yeah, let it go.

oh wait ok it was out here this year. yeah, whatever. i haven't had too many import/domestic release dilemmas before, except last year my list had a Sloan album that had been out in Canada in '06.

I listed Luomo's The Present Lover in 2004, Stars' Set Yourself on Fire in 2005, and Fujiya & Miyagi's Transparent Things in 2007, all of which came out in the U.S. a year after their original release. If I'd actually heard them in the year of their original release, I wouldn't have waited (e.g., I listed Robyn in 2005), but the delayed U.S. release kind of gives me an excuse for dragging my feet.

That wasn't very clear: The year I voted for those albums was the year they came out in the U.S. but not the year they were originally released.

Ha ha, I'm glad I'm not the one who has to the carryover-voter math on Robyn's album this year. How many different years has thing come out now? I wonder if they can access vote records that go back to 2005 these days. (The Voice has had a lot of turnover since then, including among the techies.)

yeah, all the old p&J results are kind of fuXXored on the site right now.

and have been for like two years

whiney, i plan on voting for that boredoms disc, you ain't alone

of course that could change anytime, there's way too much shit vying for a place in my Top Ten albums at the mo

yeah, it's actually gonna be in my top 20 prolly. This year was the easiest top 10 of any year ever for me!

you voting for prurient?

i'm def. voting for "and still, wanting" - was considering voting for "cocaine death" too but that wouldn't be fair

I'm seriously thinking about submitting an all-R&B ballot this year. Maybe just for singles, I'd have to cut some good rock/rap albums to make that work.

"oh those curveball throwing rock critics. R'n'b songs are good enough for their singles list but the artists are never worthy enough for their album list" A comment tossed my way once (it may have been about rap and not r'n'b)

lol yeah. i definitely like enough R&B albums this year to fill up my top 10, i just don't want to shaft albums from other genres that I like a bit more just for the purpose of a theme.

the singles list is more impt! and a lot harder to narrow down. there are probably 20-25 albums this year i think are "top 10-worthy" but like 100 singles.

really?

I have like 8 singles on my tentative list and one of them is N.E.R.D.

yeah i think there are a bunch of albums this year that are top 5 worthy and a bunch of singles that are 5-10 or worse worthy

worthy warts

this year I've been a lot less enthused about singles overall compared to previous years, but I've still got a looong potential list (and will probably blog a top 100 list like I usually do).

ive got pretty much just rap records and that the-dream album. i think. maybe the luomo too.

singles are the easiest for me bcuz i have no reservations about those

i always love more than 10 songs in a single year and i hope it stays that way

i like a lot of songs, but not many of them were singles.

really?

yeah i just tried to dash off a quick, off the top of my head, only the definite best will do list, excluding duplicates and anyone with an album i want to vote for, also excluding 08 singles off 07 albums...and still got to 30. no idea how i'm going to narrow it down but i intend an all-funky house top 5.

PM me it.

all i can think of is shit like "Yahhh"

i can post my tentative singles list, but should i do it here or should that kind of thing be kept to a totally different thread?

if it's tentative, we should have a thread on borad or something to discuss until we all make up out minds.

there's a top 10 singles of 08 thread already

So we're halfway through 2008; what are your top 10 SONGS of this year, so far?

fuck 10 songz, i'm talking 100 singlez

eh maybe i'll post it there anyway, i just feel like i'd be fucking up the flow

haha i don't think anyone is going to mind

if there is no idolator poll then i dont get to vote yay no having to choose woo hoo u.s.a.

alright, done

(xpost lol)

oh i'll post mine there too then

new update:

UPDATE : 01/11/08 : MEGA-CRITIC : Best Reviewed Albums Of 2008 So Far
http://pub37.bravenet.com/forum/3172289350/show/915330

THE MEGA-CRITIC CHART :

The current position is followed by last month´s position in brackets, then the adjusted score, followed by the average rating and the number of reviews in brackets.

The scores after the title are the individual positions/adjusted scores for Europe, the UK and the US, followed by the current Metacritic score.

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43. (38 ) 65,24 - 73,58 (19 ) Spiritualized ´Songs In A & E´
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37. (00 ) 65,36 - 77,65 (13 ) Gang Gang Dance ´Saint Dymphna´
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33. (31 ) 65,67 - 73,43 (21 ) The Black Keys ´Attack And Release´
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32. (30 ) 65,70 - 77,36 (14 ) Bonnie ´Prince´ Billy ´Lie Down In The Light´
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25. (25 ) 66,41 - 75,89 (18 ) Drive-By Truckers ´Brighter Than Creation´s Dark´
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24. (24 ) 66,43 - 73,26 (25 ) R.E.M. ´Accelerate´
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23. (23 ) 66,50 - 82,09 (11 ) Glasvegas ´Glasvegas´
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15. (14 ) 67,87 - 75,96 (23 ) The Last Shadow Puppets ´The Age Of The Understatement´
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13. (13 ) 67,94 - 78,91 (17 ) Elbow ´The Seldom Seen Kid´
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12. (12 ) 68,86 - 79,18 (19 ) Silver Jews ´Lookout Mountain, Lookout Sea´
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11. (11 ) 69,26 - 80,39 (18 ) Erykah Badu ´New Amerykah : Part One (4th World War)´
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10. (10 ) 69,53 - 81,47 (17 ) Lil Wayne ´Tha Carter III´
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EU : 03. 72,12 - UK : 44. 67,65 - US : 46. 67,08 - MC : 85

08. (08 ) 70,63 - 78,89 (26 ) Vampire Weekend ´Vampire Weekend´
EU : 06. 70,97 - UK : 13. 71,43 - US : 12. 69,46 - MC : 82

07. (07 ) 70,89 - 79,94 (24 ) Hercules And Love Affair ´Hercules And Love Affair´
EU : 20. 68,23 - UK : 06. 74,49 - US : 05. 71,18 - MC : 86

06. (06 ) 71,84 - 80,92 (25 ) The Hold Steady ´Stay Positive´
EU : 11. 70,14 - UK : 05. 75,51 - US : 06. 70,80 - MC : 85

05. (05 ) 71,87 - 81,76 (23 ) Bon Iver ´For Emma, Forver Ago´
EU : 10. 70,19 - UK : 01. 77,55 - US : 21. 68,63 - MC : 89

04. (03 ) 73,15 - 82,40 (26 ) Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds ´Dig!!! Lazarus Dig!!!´
EU : 08. 70,29 - UK : 02. 76,53 - US : 02. 74,11 - MC : 87

03. (04 ) 73,30 - 82,62 (26 ) TV On The Radio ´Dear Silence´
EU : 15. 69,16 - UK : 02. 76,53 - US : 01. 76,16 - MC : 88

02. (02 ) 74,07 - 83,69 (26 ) Portishead ´Third´
EU : 02. 74,48 - UK : 06. 74,49 - US : 03.73,13 - MC : 85

01. (01 ) 76,56 - 88,06 (24 ) Fleet Foxes ´Fleet Foxes´
EU : 01. 79,83 - UK : 02. 76,53 - US : 04. 71,96 - MC : 87

THE BUBBLERS :

100.(00 ) 62,95 - 71,93 (15 ) Emiliana Torrini ´Me And Armini´
EU : 87. 62,77 - UK : 93. 65,91 - US : 00000000 - MC : 74

99. (00 ) 62,96 - 70,88 (17 ) Of Montreal ´Skeletal Lamping´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 00000000 - US : 00000000 - MC : 71

94. (00 ) 63,06 - 69,85 (20 ) Mogwai ´The Hawk Is Howling´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 54. 67,35 - US : 00000000 - MC : 76

92. (00 ) 63,09 - 76,70 (10 ) Dungen ´4´
EU : 75. 63,38 - UK : 00000000 - US : 00000000 - MC : 78

86. (00 ) 63,18 - 75,64 (11 ) The Week That Was ´The Week That Was´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 62. 67,05 - US : 00000000 - MC : 83

85. (00 ) 63,19 - 72,33 (15 ) The Walkmen ´You & Me´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 00000000 - US : 00000000 - MC : 82

73. (00 ) 63,90 - 75,53 (15 ) The Acorn ´Glory Hope Mountain´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 62. 67,05 - US : 00000000 - MC : 00

70. (00 ) 63,93 - 77,09 (11 ) El Guincho ´Alegranza´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 62. 67,05 - US : 82. 65,00 - MC : 00

67. (00 ) 64,01 - 72,11 (18 ) Deerhoof ´Offend Maggie´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 85. 66,18 - US : 41. 67,32 - MC : 81

66. (75 ) 64,02 - 74,43 (14 ) Giant Sand ´proVISIONS´
EU : 49. 64,68 - UK : 00000000 - US : 81. 65,12 - MC : 74

FURTHER EU-POSITIONS :

19. (17 ) 68,51 Ry Cooder ´I, Flathead´
27. (27 ) 67,50 Madrugada ´Madrugada´
28. (28 ) 67,02 The Notwist ´The Devil, You And Me´
31. (31 ) 66,42 Brian Wilson ´That Lucky Old Sun´
32. (32 ) 66,17 Elvis Costello & The Imposters ´Momofuku´
33. (33 ) 66,10 Conor Oberst ´Conor Oberst´
35. (35 ) 65,89 Death Cab For Cutie ´Narrow Stairs´
37. (37 ) 65,77 Willard Grant Conspiracy ´Pilgrim Road´
38. (38 ) 65,70 Tindersticks ´The Hungry Saw´
39. (39 ) 65,61 Ron Sexsmith ´Exit Strategy Of the Soul´
41. (40 ) 65,49 Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanegan ´Sunday At Devil Dirt´
45. (43 ) 65,00 Sascha Funke ´Mango´
45. (43 ) 65,00 Emmylou Harris ´All I Intended To Be´
48. (46 ) 64,90 Be Your Own Pet ´Get Awkward´
50. (48 ) 64,68 Cass Mccombs ´Dropping The Writ´

FURTHER UK-POSITIONS :

10. (10 ) 72,45 British Sea Power ´Do You Like Rock Music´
11. (11 ) 72,41 Plush ´Fed´
15. (15 ) 70,59 Eliza Carthey ´Dreams Of Breathing Underwater´
16. (16 ) 70,51 Johnny Flynn ´A Larum´
16. (16 ) 70,51 Paul Weller ´22 Dreams´
19. (19 ) 70,46 White Denim ´Workout Holiday´
19. (32 ) 70,46 Metallica ´Death Magnetic´
24. (23 ) 69,39 These New Puritans ´Beat Pyramid´
24. (23 ) 69,39 Mystery Jets ´Twenty One´
29. (28 ) 69,32 Cass McCombs ´Dropping The Writ´
29. (28 ) 69,32 Wild Beasts ´Limbo Panto´
29. (28 ) 69,32 Roots Manuva ´Slime & Reason´
29. (28 ) 69,32 David Holmes ´The Holy Pictures´
33. (32 ) 69,23 DeVotchKa ´A Mad And Faithful Telling´
33. (32 ) 69,23 Teddy Thompson ´A Piece Of What You Need´
36. (36 ) 69,12 Thea Gilmore ´Liejacker´
38. (37 ) 68,37 The Raconteurs ´Consolers Of the Lonely´
41. (40 ) 67,95 Cadence Weapon ´Afterparty Babies´
41. (40 ) 67,95 Sparks ´Exotic Creatures Of The Deep´
44. (43 ) 67,65 Toumani Diabaté ´The Mandé Variations´
44. (43 ) 67,65 Benga ´Diary Of An Afro Warrior´
44. (43 ) 67,65 Fuck Buttons ´Street Horrrsing´
44. (43 ) 67,65 Flight Of The Conchords ´Flight Of The Conchords´
44. (43 ) 67,65 Kasai All Stars ´In The 7th Moon ...´
44. (43 ) 67,65 Lindsey Buckingham ´Gift Of Screws
44. (00 ) 67,65 Bellowhead ´Matachin´

FURTHER US-POSITIONS :

14. (11 ) 69,24 Robyn ´Robyn´ (2005)
15. (12 ) 69,22 Mountain Goats ´Heretic Pride´
19. (16 ) 68,78 Times New Viking ´Rip It Off´
23. (20 ) 68,48 Wire ´Object 47´
24. (21 ) 68,33 Torche ´Meanderthal´
26. (23 ) 68,17 High Places ´High Places´
27. (25 ) 68,06 Shugo Tokumaru ´Exit´
29. (48 ) 67,93 Leila ´Blood, Looms & Blooms´
30. (26 ) 67,72 Ellen Allien ´Sool´
31. (27 ) 67,68 Matmos ´Supreme Balloon´
32. (28 ) 67,65 Destroyer ´Trouble In Dreams´
33. (29 ) 67,56 Kelley Polar ´I Need You To Hold On ...´
33. (29 ) 67,56 Harvey Milk ´Life ... The Best Game In Town´
36. (00 ) 67,50 Women ´Women´
47. (40 ) 66,81 Food For Animals ´Belly´
49. (42 ) 66,67 Beach House ´Devotion´
49. (42 ) 66,67 Health ´Disco´
49. (00 ) 66,67 Jamey Johnson ´That Lonesome Song´
49. (00 ) 66,67 Juana Molina ´Un Dia´

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djmartian OTM

djmartian says what we're all secretly thinking

i've never seen quote marks quite like those before. they're not the usual weird euro ones are they?

44. (43 ) 67,65 Toumani Diabaté ´The Mandé Variations´

I got to get this one, although I like him with a band better than solo as on this disc.