Michael Mayer - "Immer"

umm what other mix cds have i been listening to? american gigolo... err that may be it i fear.

"Immer" is a micro-house mix, yes? Who's on it?

(seriously, like 17 cd's now. it's all about the al green this summer.)

A Rocket In Dub - Rocket No. 3: is like a romance inside an iron lung. The low-end frequencies sing seductive love songs to the high-end frequencies.

Carsten Jost - You Don't Need A Weatherman (Superpitcher Mix): is typical (translation: flawless) Superpitcher-style methadone haze + bird song.

Thomas Fehlmann - Gratis: tech-house reimagined as the closing memorial song to an ant-robot council of war, the ant- robot leaders draped in their finest silk. (apologies - I have developed a sudden and distasteful penchant for automatic writing)

Phantom/Ghost - Perfect Lovers (Unperfect Love Mix): the absolute peak: Lachrymosa strings slowly glide downwards into chilling, mysterious house-pop ("We are perfect lovers, besides the fact that we're not there")

Frank Martiniq - Adriano (M. Mayer Remix) - the "psychedelic" backing music for the drug-trip scenes in a new version of Orgazmo scored by nu-electro artists. This is a good thing.

I'm curious what others makes of that moment (44.20 in) when Mayer fades out Akufen's glorious psychometry vol. 3 and, err, drops the Adagietto from Mahler's Symphony No 5 in C-sharp major. cousin omar desribes it i his KindaMuzik review as too much of a forced humanistic gesture in this sleek technological landscape.

alongside with mayer's majestic mix of frank martiniq's adriano its probably my favourite moment in the mix. what does the rest of the ILM massive think?

btw Stevo where did you find a copy? I never see a copy lying around here and had to order it straight from Kompakt.

How easy was it to order directly through Kompakt?

That Tobias Thomas mix-cd on Kompakt is also really good btw

so how typical of "microhouse" is this mix?
is this what people are talking about when they use that term?
(the only other stuff i know is a few mp3s,and i've heard people who mix this sort of stuff a few times,although they refer to it as "deep techno" or something...)

i haven't heard the mix yet though,so i possibly shouldn't comment....i must try and get it somewhere...

Selway - Flying Far
Mayer's remix of Adriano
Carsten Jost - You Don't Need A Weatherman
Thomas Fehlman - Gratis...

...in that order and a special prize to Akufen's Psychometry vol 3.0 for reminding me of Change ft. Luther Vandross on a diomorphine and ketamine bender when someone brings in the mescal.

I think the Mahler is great! It ain't "too much of a forced humanistic gesture in this sleek technological landscape". It is part of the greatness of microhouse (which relates to the greatness of Daft Punk) that it plays around with our ideas of humanity, soul, depth, warmth, emotion. Does anyone have the same objections to Kraftwerk's Radioactivity & Franz Schubert? Microhouse takes K's man-machine in different directions. It's machines becoming human (the differences between Chain Reaction - Hypercity - micropop/digital disco) rather than men becoming machines, but the interesting question is what kind of human?

I can see how it could seem out of place. I played clarinet in a good school orchestra for several years, but to me, in this context, after so much 'deep' repetition, it sounds like high-quality ambient muzak. I don't know the Mahler piece and if you do it's best not to think of it as a Mahler quote. Next to the Akufen and all the stuff before, it makes a much-needed striking contrast and soothing relief in a largely seamless mix. When it drops, we're so deep into the humanity of texture and repetition that it works not in the trad musical way but as an oasis of lush texture freed from repetition's tyranny, that relaxes us for a second before the final stretch, and makes us think. I say 'tyranny' because as much as I adore it, the only thing that occasionally bugs me about 'Immer' is how damn hypnotising and almost dehumanising its 'deep' 'human' grooves can get when you're completely immersed in them. So maybe the Mahler even saves the album!

Thus it is a signifier for an old idea of humanity that has come to mean something else. Next to 'Perfect Lovers', it comes to represent movie melodrama and Eurocamp, almost functioning like the MOR stuff in 'Discovery'. The track is the dramatic entrance of the human voice that microhouse is so great at. (Tessio on Hypericty of course) The insertion of a different humanity challenges the straightforward 'vocals = humanity' idea.

i wish this particular one didn't have the vocals.... :-(

but i really like this record

is "lachrymosa" like a wine-based drink?

And it is one of the best albums ever.

It is, and I'm thinking the upcoming Superpitcher mix could be the younger brother to Immer because it's got the same nocturnal glow through and through. It may not have the shock of the new that Immer had, but the track selection is just as good.

is it? i don't think anything on there matches "perfect lovers" or "rocket no. 3" or "gratis" or "you don't need a weatherman" to name only my favorites. good call on the "younger brother" thing, though.

But you're right, they aren't as many "all-time classics" on the disc, even if I would make a case for the Oliver Hacke and Wighnomy Bros. tracks being as good as anything they've ever released/featured.

Does this mean microhouse is officially big now?

I mentioned over on Dissensus that I reckon a lot of Matthew Jonson's big rep is based around the fact that he's the scene hero for a lot of techno-heads who, by dint of their techno allegiance, were suspicious of microhouse for a long while.

x-post

a guy I know calls this stuff "slow techno" rather than house.

And about the Immer Null 12"- has anyone here heard it yet?

: )

xp i was thinking coladin

kompakt (via the website) had sold out of immer for a while but it was available again recently.

that smog mix looks gr8 btw.

Very disappointing for "classic tracks"....

i'm diggin immer 2. can i get recommendations for other kompakt releases that are essential? other than the first immer, that is.

Superpitcher - Today (cd mix)
CLOSER MUSIK - ONE, TWO, THREE... (12)
jurgen paape - so weit wie noch nie (12)
justus koehncke - was ist musik (cd full-length)
scsi 9 - mini (12)
rex the dog - frequency (12)
total 6 (cd comp)
total 7 (cd comp)
(i don't know the earlier totals as well as i should but i'm sure there's great stuff on there)
partial arts - trauermusik
superpitcher - I walk (12, may not have come out on kompakt, well worth hearing)
justus koehncke - doppelebben (cd full-length)

all essential, for me

two albums that came out close to one another and have hits and misses: matias aguayo - are you really lost and dj koze - koze comes around

sublabel kompop has some absolute essentials. all singles:

HEIKO VOSS
I THINK ABOUT YOU

THE MFA
THE DIFFERENCE IT MAKES

MICHAEL MAYER
LOVEFOOD REMIXE

BAXENDALE
I BUILT THIS CITY

MATIAS AGUAYO
DE PAPEL

should i buy that supermayer single at the record store? love the cover. i should just buy it.

Total 2 & 3
1st Kaito
Friends
Immer
Smallville

jaded. ronan is so clever :D

"I walk" is by Quarks I think? The spitcher remix was a Speicher release.

There's a primer-type mp3 pack called 'kompakt us 1' that contains the, uh, 'hits' I guess, which is quite an easy way of getting a few of yr essentials.

Speaking of Kompakt Pop: Dorau/Kohncke, "Durch Die Nacht"! Perfect in every way!

yeh i luv that one

would never have heard this in a world without ILM

Yay the Rick Rubin model works!

Immer is such a good mix - right up until the transition from Akufen's Psychometry to the Phantomghost song, where it completely loses momentum and falls flat on its face. I've never understood its classic status at all.

It's bad enough to put a song with a long wanky beatless breakdown in a mix, but to slowly build up to the funkiest song on the album, and then follow that song with this long, boring, beatless... ugh, I just don't understand it. I have never made it all the way through track 10 on this mix.

I guess it works as a dance mix for the bedroom or on the iPod on the way to work, but what's the point? I saw him live a few years ago, and he rocked the house. If any of his mix albums were like that set, they'd be classics for me.

I love that part of the mix!

i finally really like "immer" now

carsten jost - you don't need a weatherman (superpitcher remix)

best thing on it imo - not doing a poll tho

Ooh that'd be a hard poll. Probably between that, the Rocket in Dub track and Fehlmann's "Gratis" for me.

I third the love for "Durch Die Nacht" - all three versions are lovely.

In many ways though Immer is much more than the sum of its parts - I'd say a good third of the tracks I'd have little use for on their own.

Contrast with Mayer's Fabric mix, which feels much more "greatest hits", lots of big anthem tracks.

i am confounded by the little attention that immer 2 gets on ILM. sure, it doesn't throw down the gauntlet in the same way (how could it?), but it feels like less of a statement and more of a continuation with modern (well, 06) tracks. the second half certainly rivals immer for sexy melancholy and the first half does a good job at breaking away from early 00's revivalism (not that kompakt needed to do it) i.e., advancing the sonic palette while hewing to the traditional model. i just like how it all hangs together and the kind of eastern european sophistication it has.

yoooooooo immer 2 > immer

bye

plz

http://www.soulstrut.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspect5es.gif

Weird that this thread was started 5 years ago.

Immer 2 is not > Immer, but it's pretty frackin good.

IMO u diplo/hollatronix dickriders

that's fair

diplo presents immer

i like the first three tracks on immer 2, and 'another station'. the rest is so... kompakt-y

well, yeah!

I love Mayer's capacity to make you take notice of a track that you otherwise would have overlooked. The SCSI-9 track sounds mindblowing on Immer 2, and I was like "woah what the fuck is this", completely forgetting I was already familiar with it on the SCSI-9 album.

And of course "Lying in a Bed of Mist" is brilliant.

Speicher CD 2 doesn't get enough love.

i think i'm looking for more gas-like tracks rather than dancefloor stuff so with that said, do any of these:

Superpitcher - Today (cd mix)
CLOSER MUSIK - ONE, TWO, THREE... (12)
jurgen paape - so weit wie noch nie (12)
justus koehncke - was ist musik (cd full-length)
scsi 9 - mini (12)
rex the dog - frequency (12)
total 6 (cd comp)
total 7 (cd comp)
(i don't know the earlier totals as well as i should but i'm sure there's great stuff on there)
partial arts - trauermusik
superpitcher - I walk (12, may not have come out on kompakt, well worth hearing)
justus koehncke - doppelebben (cd full-length)

fit into that or do i just go for the pop ambient comps (and which of those are the good ones)

frankly, no, but it's very likely you will like this:

http://tweakfm.com/audio.html

download the march 9th sven weisemann mix, it's fantastico.

(beware the false start on it though)

thx. so is that no on the pop ambient too??

i'm still going to give those a try btw, so thanks jergins

am0n- Pop Ambient 2001 is almost certainly the best of the series. I really like 2006 as well. 2004 and 2005 are the weakest of the bunch, I think.

If you're looking for something similar to Gas, try Dettinger- Intershop or Markus Guentner- In Moll. Also wonder if you'd like Marsen Jules' Herbstlaub on City Centre.

cool. just listened to samples of 2006 and think i'll start with that

jed - nice mix

am0n, i don't know the pop ambient's well enough to give recommendations. i like them well enough though.

I'd say 2002 and 2003 are the best pop ambients. 2001 is the series in a more embryonic form (its got more house beats/glitchy clicks-n-cuts than any of the other volumes).

i listened to both immers back to back and 2 isn't looking so good now :/

the cd for 2 came with a password to download this:

IMMER 2 DIGITAL-COMPILED BY MICHAEL MAYER (KOMPAKT AKTION)
INTRO (ESEL 025)

NO MATTER WHETHER (DRECK 010)

LUKON MICHAEL MAYER RMX (ECHOCORD 014)

2ND BOOTY (ASTROLAB)

MAPS (MAYER/THOMAS RMX) (AREAL 030)

ABERMORGEN (KOMPAKT POP 004)

TERRE & FUNK SHUI:SUPERBONUS (SUPEREDIT) (MULE 020)

Amon if you want Gas-type stuff by all means check out the Pop Ambient series.

Pop Ambient 2001 is the most varied and listener-friendly I think. Pop Ambient 2002 and 2003 are more focused (on non-focus, if that makes sense) but lovely if you let yourself zone out to them. I especially like 2002 owing to the Triola and Donnacha Costello tracks. Decided that was all I needed and haven't checked out subsequent editions.

You might also like Total 2, which I think is a bit underrated (compared to the praise that Total 3 gets) and captures the label at a nice point-of-transition moving from stark abstraction towards pop friendliness.

I have nothing against PA2001, but you can really hear the development, and see how Kompakt was coming into its own during the time from PA2001/Total 1 'til PA2002/Total 2.

pa2007 is the only pa i like

königsforst-esque, it is

rrrrrly @_@

I don't disagree with you Michael, but as I recall wasn't there only, like, 8 months between the releases of PA2001 and PA2002?

CLOSER MUSIK - ONE, TWO, THREE... (12)

^ i like dis

yoooooooo immer 2 > immer

bye

-- am0n, Wednesday, September 12, 2007 10:57 PM (8 months ago)

^dumbass

I listened to this the other day and it was good, but I think I prefer Fabric 13.

I have no idea why it need to be a sequel mix. As if MM hadn't put out other mixes in between (although correct me if these were Kompakt only mixes or something of the sort).

I think Fabric 13 still is better than Immer, which while it has that perfect track selection that flows perfectly from one another, Fabric has some of the most character I've ever heard in a mix. Admittedly I could give a shit for Michael Mayer's mixing, but he has this rare ability to weave a story out of a mix (which I think he does a bit less in Immer)

Also went back to both recently (spurred, if anyone cares, by hearing "Saturndays" on the Junior Boys body language mix, then wanting better Mayer stuff). I love the first half of the Fabric mix, but find that it drops off badly. Whereas the first half of Immer feels like a slow build towards a fantastic second half.

we are
perfect lovers
beside the fact
that we're not there

and i think it is alright
that we are only seen by night!!!!!!

was listening to this on headphones yesterday. are there any other akufen trax as dope as psychometry?

quebec nightclub!

Selway - Flying Far is so incredibly good in this thing.

yeah that's my favourite.

Immer 3 is coming out this summer

Tracklist:
1. Courtney Tidwell – Don’t Let the Stars Keep Us Tangled Up (Ewan Pearson’s Ambient Mix)
2. Closer Musik – Departures
3. Ben Watt – Guinea Pig (DJ Koze Remix)
4. Tim Paris – Edges of Corrosion
5. Smith N Hack – Falling Stars
6. Raudive – Slave
7. Massive Attack – Paradise Circus (Gui Boratto Remix)
8. Popnoname – Hello Gorgeous (Terranova Remix)
9. Charlotte Gainsbourg – The Operation (Superpitcher Remix)
10. Culoe de Song – The Bright Forest
11. Kinky Justice – New Day

ooh, love "falling stars"

Charlotte Gainsbourg – The Operation (Superpitcher Remix) - This is so good. As heard on Tobias Thomas' Speaking In Tongues mix. Falling Stars is also amazing. Justus Köhncke's version of New Day is cool. A lot of these tracks have been around a while.

Should I have listened to Immer 2?

yes! i love it about as much as the orig

first 2 songs are probably my favorite songs ever, i'm interested in how he mixes them.

I miss closer Musik. And Departures is one of my favorites. I hope this mix is as romantic as the first one.

yeah a bunch of not-new tracks here huh?

6. Raudive – Slave

this is that grace jones sampling track......'romantic' def isn't the word

re: using old tracks

‘Immer’ means ‘always’ in German, and fittingly the mix series has always been anchored in tracks that, for Mayer, have a certain timelessness, with less emphasis on the new and untested.

miss the immer label tbh. how sick was that benjamin diamond/connective zone split?

last track must be that justus kohncke cover of 'new day' by round two/basic channel that i heard about a while back

this looks great!

Ben Watt – Guinea Pig (DJ Koze Remix)

This is one of my absolute favourite DJ Koze remixes (probably my favourite in fact) and is perfect for an Immer mix.

Mayer using old tracks seems sensible as well in that this overall style is generally "outmoded" now.

This looks perfect, just the right thing if he's going to do another mix in the series.

Culoe de Song – The Bright Forest

Fan of this ever since his RA podcast.

Kinky Justice track was on Myspace a while back

So hyped for this

Immer = Always = Classic tracks. I never made that connection before!

Mayer = Always Classic too. Really looking forward to Immer 3.

Anyone able to ID any of these tracks i've cut from an '05 Mayer set?

http://www.4shared.com/audio/8LFAaAYB/Mayer05.html

the second track is the b-side of http://www.discogs.com/DJ-Koze-AKA-Monaco-Schranze-Gebr-Teichmann-Speicher-25/release/365614

Some great tracks in this 2002 Mayer set: Love Family Park

the last track on micarl's link is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_yDfY8CVFU

Tracklist looks amazing. Is there an official release date for this one?

8th June

Have been rather enjoying this, even minus the Massive Attack track (not on the digital release for rights reasons, apparently).

His set from his recent Sunday Best NYC is posted on their website, was skimming through it and it sounded interesting, should one be interested.

this should work http://www.sundaybestnyc.com/

iTunes UK pricing error means you can currently pick up the continuous mix for 79p if anybody is interested

So so so so so tempted...even though I've got it coming in the post on CD tomorrow...

Just gave in. Cheers for the heads up!

Heh, I've got the cd coming in the post too but that could be a couple of days yet!

What is, like, the IMMER of 2012? I need a new mix

going back to immer apropos of nothing and it sounds better than ever.

Actually just listened to this yesterday. Still an A+ mix, still one of my all-time favorites.

blech romantic sentimental ambient music

j/k this is a good mix but i prefer the sprockets

speichers, not sprockets

haha, as I was posting that, I was anticipating some push back from you

pure jokes

Mayer DJ-Kicks in May: https://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=38629
Tracklist looks great, headwear not so much (Roísín Murphy's the only one who can pull off something like that and look graceful (as it reminded me of her Overpowered cover photo))

OMG the DJ-Kicks is so great, it gets into the peak time fluffy ecstasy pop zone early on and just stays there.

the alter ego track on this is pure filth

but .. that cover ...

It's a fucking fantastic mix eh, when he drops Please Stay it sounds even fresher than it did at the time

I was all over the Carl Craig mix (and to a lesser extent the Tiga one) of that Alter Ego tune when it came out, to the point where I hadn't even heard the original, but yeah, pure filth xp