Best band ever. Nominations thread.

Feel like I'm pushing my luck here but here goes.

What I thought, if we keep this thread going from now until 1st January and then create a poll with the 20 most popular bands and the=, I.E. if Bucks Fizz, Nu Shooz and Red box are all equal 19th, they all go through to the poll section.

So, if you can just put your nominations, without saying why, I'll add up the votes and we can make our cases and explain our reasons in the Poll on Jan 2nd.

The Fall.

good luck with this

if we count Parliament-Funkadelic as one band then them

Funkadelic
Kyuss
Parliament

damn you shakey

New Order

aaaaaargh

parliament-funkadelic

Thank you. I have way too much spare time on my hands.

I will definitely count Parliament and Funkadelic as one act and they would absolutely be in my top 10.

New Order

Joy Division.

Funkadelic
Kyuss
Parliament

― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 23:36 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Is that a vote for Parliament/Funkadelic?

Also: Earl Brutus.

The Fall
The Bee Gees
Buck Owens and the Buckeroos

NB: that was me casting a second vote for New Order. Shoulda made that clearer.

Also: yeh, The Fall.

New Order

Joy Division.

― grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 23:40 (23 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Is that a vote for New Order or Joy Division (because there is no way I can link those two)?

I consider it two bands (the parliament singers arent in Funkadelic) but if you are going to have them as just one band that's fair enough.

And if grimly is nominating earl brutus then im saying Spacemen 3

The Beatles <<< seriously

1 band only or I'll have to discount your vote.

Sly And The Family Stone?

Wait, can we only nominate one band?
If so, the Fall

Earl Brutus are fucking amazing.

This will annoy a lot of people but fuck them The Stone Roses

x-post

eh? it didnt say at the top 1 band only

Sorry, should have explained that.

Gonna have to nominate a band nobody else will want to go near - Earl Brutus

are these votes or nominations?

if former, then The Fall
if latter, then The Clean

oh f@!# it all to hell: just put me down for the Clean plz.

For a band to really qualify as the "best ever", it can't be limited by any one style. So Parliament/Funkadelic, cool as they were, don't deserve the nomination. I mean, they only knew how to play one style, funk, which was James Brown's territory anyway. And we can't nominate James Brown, because he was just one guy. Bands that can perform effectively across a broad range of styles are more deserving (such as, say, The Beatles or Ween). But we're never gonna be able to nail down the best of the best, because there are so many types of music available. Nevertheless, I think John McLaughlin might be capable of this.

That is, http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj242/donaldparsley/BS.jpg

Just one? GAH. Joy Division is taken, so...

X

shakey you deal with that

Strapping Field Hands

X is a great pick!

I wanna lobby for The Stooges and The Slits!

Real answer = Africa 70, or maybe whatever band it was did the Dark Magus. Except, no, it's Funkadelic after all.

what are the nominations so far?

if you're going to be counting nominations then they're not nominations but votes: ain't that right?

Or Queen. Can I change it to Queen? Is it too late for that? I don't actually want to change to Queen yet, but I want to make sure. Also very fond of quartet w/ Garrison, Jones, Tyner and that other guy, I forget his name. Does jazz count as bands? Plus Suicide, only two guys, but they sounded like at least three.

I mean, they only knew how to play one style, funk

this is a joke, right?

where is Geir lolz

this is a joke, right?

"(such as, say, The Beatles or Ween)"

Definite nominations so far:

The Fall
Parliament/Funkadelic
New Order
Earl Brutus
Spacemen 3
Stone Roses
The Beatles
Sly and the Family Stone
The Clean
X
Strapping hand fields

CREEDENCE MUTHAEFFIN CLEARWATER REVIVAL

Kraftwerk

"(such as, say, The Beatles or Ween)"

haha seriously I thought you had c-and-p'd a geir post

The Go-Betweens

I am serious about CAN. Real nom (nom nom).

If I can nominate others, I also want: Miles Davis' mid 70s crew + Stooges + Queen + Sabbath + Funkadelic + Africa 70 + Coltrane quartet + Boadrums + Sonic Youths + AC/DC + Iron Maiden to be on there somewhere, plus whatever else I think of.

If not, just CAN is okay.

The Minutemen

Good one! I want them, too. They were in High Fidelity.

The Duke Ellington Orchestra

if we're lucky, Geir picks Yes
if we're unlucky, Geir picks Genesis

i'm gonna start finding threads for all my favourite bands & lobby for them all tonite!

Since this seems to be a popularity contest (top 20) I second: Spacemen 3, Sly and the Family Stone and CCR. Plus I would like to take votes away from Joy Division and New Order and give them to someone more deserving, like Funkadelic.

the beach boys

(someone say talking heads plz)

Also, the JBs, both Collins/Collins and Wesley & co. Oh, and hell yeah, the Talking Heads

roxy music
talking heads

just wait til bimble and the lex find this thread

We only get to pick ONE, though right? So why are people saying more than one band?

somebody plz say sabbath plz!

and zep and VU and noones said steely dan or MBV yet either

The Who

I missed the one band one vote thing, cuz I was giddy with end of day and sugar and coffee.

To repeat: CAN.

Please, somebody, nominate other useful bands. Such as Africa 70 and Iron Maidins.

Can I say World Domination Enterprises?

Can someone else as well?

mannie fresh

Throwing Muses

My Bloody Valentine

(plz someone add VU!)

But look, this one dood one vote policy is the FUKCED UP, cuz look:

... create a poll with the 20 most popular bands. I.E. if Bucks Fizz, Nu Shooz and Red box are all equal 19th, they all go through to the poll section. (etc, etc) ...I'll add up the votes and we can make our cases and explain our reasons in the Poll.

― Sven Hassel Schmuck

So we hafta repeat each other's noms, in order to determine the 20 most pupular fo the poll, right? Right, Sven? We hafta. By mentioning bands other than CAN that hadn't yet been nominated, I was just tryin to provide helpful hands so other people could know who to nominate. Hint: nominate them.

But anyway, I second VU if they have the noms, but totally not MPV.

I'm just saying if it's one person, one vote, and everyone also keeps saying "hint hint please vote for..." then basically Mr. Schmuck has to keep track of which poster said which band! He's got his work cut out for him.

Yeah, that's true, I'll cut that shit. But still, you also have to second the nommed bands you think worthy, in order to drive up the Q. Plus what are you gonna nom, so I can second it?

Well I don't understand this concept of seconding if you only get ONE VOTE.

RUSH

fleetwood mac.

ugh, pavement

Anyway, I don't care enough to make a fuss over this either way. My vote goes to New Order.

yeah, this is the dumbest thing ever though

no its not its about being the best

WIRE

(btw, from now on failing to put your nom in all caps means you're not really feelin' it)

Well I don't understand this concept of seconding if you only get ONE VOTE.

― bamble

But then how is Sven H. Schmuck to determine the most popular for the final 20-band bare knuckle brawl? Some things have not yet been made clear. Ruling, Sven?

EDIT: Oh, I understand where yr coming from, bimble. If you sacrifice your own nom, you can throw its body onto the nom of another, for added fortitude. That works, but I don't like it. Then again, it ain't my deathmatch...

Does anyone in this bitch share my passion for

BAD DREAMS FANCY DRESS

http://www.hitexpress.cz/images/wallpapery/pussycat-dolls-wallpaper-2-1024x768.jpg

the grateful dead

or are we supposed to be seconding other noms with our one nom so they'll make the final 20? i don't understand how these are going to be ranked with one vote per person, seems like it'll wind up quite the fucked up list...

that's BAD DREAM FANCY DRESS for the record

I love when lex does some perfect lex thing. It helps my life make sense.

like any great band, the pcds have obviously been starving for the sake of their craft. do you think the label ever lets them eat?

It's true, photo emphasizes that the most important member of the band is terrifying abdomen of dusky middle doll.

Fugazi

we all know Radiohead will win this just to annoy the lex

THE FALL, but also:

New Order
Spacemen 3

DEPECHE MODE
DEPECHE MODE
DEPECHE MODE
DEPECHE MODE

for fucks sake

CAN

best band evah

Radiohead

kyuss-funkadelic

my bloody mahavishnu orchestra

sly and the family can

roxy minutemen

banana slits

meat puppets

kraftwerk 3

Faith No More

ac/j.b.'s

I'll second Fleetwood Mac and X.

Also, my nomination is Nirvana.

the Cure

^^^this is more like it

A Tribe Called Quest.

I have a serious problem with The Fall and Joy Division... X will never be my thing... just thought I'd share.
Also, isn't the stone roses mostly boring? I mean 'I wanna be adored' is great but the rest is probably boring. Kinda like how Slint is seriously overrated and has a boring side.

I nominate Nirvana, Genesis for the early years, Roxy Music for the early years, and since someone else nominated Strapping Fieldhands, than I think I have the right to nominate Grifters. Oh and Robert Wyatt if you consider him a band.

"made of stone" is the best stone roses song by a pretty wide margin IMO

I can't say I gave them a complete listen through - I'll give that one a shot

I nominate one more, Hall and Oates

What is your serious problem with The Fall and Joy Division?

The Rolling Stones, people.

xxpost voices suck. then the rest is just not aesthetically appealing to me.

banana slits

thank you Edward for fixing thread

cardiacs

Prince

And I second the nominations for Kraftwerk and Parliament-Funkadelic.

^^^if i'd been taking this thread anything seriously, this wdve been out the gate pronto xxp to m the g

but i somehow doubt this is all gonna work

that's genius b/c Prince is both a singular artist AND a band. totally seconded if it counts

Hold on, is this poll limited to actual bands only, and not solo artists? That'd be ridiculous!

Btw, "Prince" isn't the name of a band, it's just that one guy. His bands were called The Revolution and The New Power Generation.

i believe so. hence the mentions of africa 70 and no mention of fela kuti, etc.

yes but he played all of the instruments on his early releases, making him a one man band

Okay, if this about bands only and not solo artists, I'm not participating.

^^^ a man of principles

Well, since my favourite genres are jazz, techno, and soul, this would leave out more than 50% or my favourite musicians.

Byrds (not necessarily my top pick, but all my other top picks will make the list anyway)

Smiths, duh

all these reponses and i have to be the one to suggest : devo

Does anyone in this bitch share my passion for

BAD DREAMS FANCY DRESS

?

CAN

but it could have been: Chrome, Stooges, Black Sabbath, Funkadelic, The Cure, Neu!, Os Mutantes, Velvet Underground, Suicide, Cramps, Joy Division, Love, Beach Boys, Hawkwind etc etc

It seems like there's little point in nominating something that's already been nominated, may as well add a bit of diversity at this stage.

My personal first choice would be Nirvana, who are already mentioned, so I need the thinking cap on for another pick.

OK, I really don't understand how this process is meant to work. But anyway:

MY NOMINATION was Joy Division (nu-Louis also nominated Earl Brutus, who I'd probably vote for).

I was seconding New Order and The Fall.

I think I'll stop reading this thread now until we get to vote, or summat.

red hot chili peppers

nu-Louis was taking the piss a little bit, although he still likes Earl Brutus

Not sure if VU have already been nominated or if people are just recommending that they should be nommed. So, unambiguously, The Velvet Underground. just to make sure.

Both my favourite bands have been mentioned, so I'll keep schtum

I Approve of all marco's nominations apart from 'etc etc.' they were rubbish.

The Who

nu-Louis was taking the piss a little bit, although he still likes Earl Brutus

Grr. The beats will rain down on Nu-Louis's pods, then.

OK, someone else can rep for Joy Division. Earl Brutus need to be in this list :)

Kraftwerk

All I need is for people to name ONE band which is their favourite of all time.

Just because a band has been nominated doesn't mean it can't be voted for again.

The top 20 bands (IE bands with the most votes) and = will be made into a poll after 2nd January 2008.

Simple.

Ah, I see. OK, that does make more sense than I thought.

Earl Brutus, fuck it.

UK Subs

Not much use if you don't have ONE favourite band

no one's actually put Talking Heads as their first nom yet.. :-(

The Vines

^^ cosign

Oh Sven Hassel Schmuck, do you not see how the pious morals of this system are corruptible by sockpuppetry, sabotage or a sudden hankering for The Vines?

No chance in hell that The Fall and New Order won't make it into the poll, so SPACEMEN 3

the correct answer is Darkthrone

oh in that case i change my answer from the grateful dead to the clean

Royal Trux

http://www.fwi.co.uk/blogs/rural-life/Wurzels.jpg

go on then, i'm taking back my Devo suggestion if thats ok, and add another vote/mention for the mighty Earl Brutus.
thank you.

oh god, yeah, i was going to vote vines for best band ever, but now earl fucking brutus have come up i'll have to have a rethink.

I WANNA GET FREE
I WANNA GET FREE
I WANNA GET FREE
DUH-DUH-DUH THE SUN

Can we just have a Vines vs. Earl Brutus poll to decide the best band ever, and leave it at that?

Surprised more people aren't repping for The High.

My answer changes daily. But today it's X.
Tomorrow it could be the Go-Betweens, Velvets, Clash, Louis Armstrong and the Hot Fives+Sevens, or, ahem, the Beatles.

fwiw I am about to mobilise the Cardiacs webforum

if we count Parliament-Funkadelic as one band then them

― Shakey Mo Collier

^^^^^^that

Lynyrd Skynyrd.

Led Zeppelin

Def Leppard

Birthday Party gotta be there

So basically, fux will vote for Vines, basically, and ORZ will vote for that one fucking that isn't in the poll and hasta be. Which = Vines, but at least CAN gots 3 votes. Vote for CAN.

And Vines.

http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/7/4/6/0/12020647-12020653-slarge.jpg

Can
Yes
Led Zeppelin

Can Led Zeppelin? Yes.

the Clash or Pet Shop Boys

that RS cover really underlines the gap of rock between Nirvana and Vines, aka the dark ages

Neil Young & Crazy Horse

The Beatles

What I've had to do, and I am taking this as seriously as possible in order to get as definitive an answer as possible, is to record each voter seperately, as well as each vote. In this way, anyone who votes for 1 band and then changes their mind, will find their final choice being counted and no others.

Obviously, this method is not foolproof as anyone can set up different accounts, but, what's the point of that and who could be arsed anyway?

Clearly silly votes will still be counted, although, I'm relying on the goodwill of the majority to not block vote in this respect. If a sudden rush of votes come in for, say, Aha, I would have to consider if they were genuine or not but I would obviously suspect the former.

To those who have stated they don't have a favourite band, sorry about that, but if you don't there ain't really much point being on this thread or voting. This is purely a nominating thread where the 20 bands with the most nominations and the = will be placed in a poll sometime after 2nd January.

I realise that this is not the definitive way of measuring this. There are a number of other ways I could have attempted to do this. a knockout competitiion. Lists of peoples top 10 bands, etc but this is the simplest, the most direct and therefore, the most sensible. The more Indidvidual votes are cast, the more people will have a say and, therefore, the more accurate the final 20 list will be.

seconding the Smiths here

you realize that you can only have 50 options in polls right?

lol

The Vines + 49 others?

Gong for me, please.

It's always amazed me that such a poll has never been done before. I post on a number of boards and this is the one where, I feel, the highest number of people who are passionate and knowledgable about music, post and converse. Instead of waiting for others to do this, I decided, during a drunken moment last night, to attempt to gather the information myself.

I have quite a bit of free time over the next few weeks and am committed to making sure this is done as fairly and accurately as possible. I am fascinated to know the result and I feel that the methodology and criteria used, not to mention the sheer volume of votes, will allow an accurate picture to emerge.

The list of the 20 bands going through to the final poll will be published sometime during the day (UK time) of 2nd January

Bear with me.

Ween

you realize that you can only have 50 options in polls right?

― VISION QUEST TO KNOCK YOU UP (John Justen), Thursday, 18 December 2008 17:12 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

That's why, as I have stated a few times up thread, the final poll will be made up of only the 20 bands with the most votes and = votes. Therefore, if 5 bands are all equal 18th, they will all be included. if for some reason, there are, like, 35 bands all on the same number of votes, then, a play off can be done but the chances are, this won't happen, just because the sheer number of votes involved will result in a certain amount of repetition of bands.

Hope all this makes sense?

Once again. 1 vote. 1 band.

1 vote, 1 band, 1 Vines imo

Kyuss

ok to clarify: the vines is my vote

can't believe I forgot who country matters was & thought he was deeznuts

One more thing.

I have noticed that news of this poll has been mentioned on a few different boards already.

I would appreciate it if I could be informed by one of the moderators if it is clear that fans of, for example (oh I don't know) The Cardiacs, Jethro tull or The Beta band suddenly start block voting, having recently joined this site for the first time. It will be easy to spot this happening but evidence that votes are from new members will confirm it.

I'm trusting this won't happen but it might.

The Beta Band

Christ that Vines song is horrible.

No, wait. Jethro Tull.

vote 3 (?) for the vines over here.

I nominate SPARKS

I would appreciate it if I could be informed by one of the moderators if it is clear that fans of, for example (oh I don't know) The Cardiacs, Jethro tull or The Beta band suddenly start block voting, having recently joined this site for the first time. It will be easy to spot this happening but evidence that votes are from new members will confirm it.

Should maybe get some U.N. observers in to keep an eye on this.

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/d/dd/Seriousbidness.jpg

http://activerain.com/image_store/uploads/9/1/2/2/5/ar120269789652219.jpg

At the moment, good old Soft Machine.

Oh, but the Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band.

I made a mistake with my Nirvana vote. I thought this thread was something other than what it is. So I'm changing my vote to another vote for the Vines.

Um, has it been mentioned yet that nothing good can come of this poll?

REALLY considering sb'ing SHS.

This is easier than I expected.

I'll update with a list of (genuine) nominations every few days. (including number of votes for each).

Blind Idiot God

Watch out for Scientologists block voting for Return to Forever.

Killing Joke, you cheese monkeys.

Bob Dylan & the Band

As it stands at the moment, 48 bands have been nominated.

Tuomas. I can't allow Prince so which is it? Kraftwerk or PFunk?
Mark G. I've got you down for World domination enterprises and Bonzo Dog do dah band. which one should I go for?

I won't be listing them all after this post, just the ones with more than 1 vote but up to now the votes are as follows:

Parliament/Funkadelic (4)
Can (4)
The Fall (3)
New Order (3)
Kraftwerk (3)
Earl Brutus (3)
New Order (2)
Joy Division (2)
Spacemen 3 (2)
Beatles (2)
X (2)
The Clean (2)
The Smiths (2)
The Who (2)

1 vote each for Sly and the family stone, Strapping Hand Fields, Stooges, Go betweens, Minutemen, Beach Boys, Throwing Muses, My Bloody Valentine, Rush, Fleetwood Mac, Pavement, Wire, Bad dream Fancy Dress, Fugazi, Depeche Mode, Radiohead, Meat Puppets, Faith No more, Nirvana, Tribe called quest, Cure, Rolling Stones, Cardiacs, Byrds, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Velvet Underground, Uk Subs, Darkthrone, Royal Trux, Lynyry Skynyrd, led Zeppelin, Def Leppard, Birthday party, Gong, Ween, Sparks, Soft Machine, Blind Idiot God, Killing Joke, The Band.

From this point onwards, If you want to change your vote, please let me know what FRom as well as what to. I will still be able to find it and ammend the voying but it will take me a lot longer so be kind.

FWIW if you're actually taking this seriously, my favourite band is Cardiacs rather than Earl Brutus

I am taking it seriously. Vote amended.

Ok. I am changing my vote from Nirvana to Fleetwood Mac, since it should definitely be on the list.

FWIW if you're actually taking this seriously, my favourite band is Cardiacs rather than Earl Brutus

Bastard.

You seem to be missing the Vines and Earl Brutus from that list btw.

Neil Young & Crazy Horse doesn't count?

I feel guilty now! Especially as I spent a fine morning the other day watching Earl Brutus videos on Youtube. Mmm. But - I don't think this poll will have much say in the way of converting new fans. Whereas a decent Earl Brutus poll thread - who knows?

Pet Shop Boys

You seem to be missing the Vines and Earl Brutus from that list btw.

― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 18 December 2008 19:58 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

You reckon?

You gonna vote or what?

Other messages have been posted since you last looked... Please review and if you want to change your message, do so before posting.
I feel guilty now! Especially as I spent a fine morning the other day watching Earl Brutus videos on Youtube. Mmm. But - I don't think this poll will have much say in the way of converting new fans. Whereas a decent Earl Brutus poll thread - who knows?

― country matters, Thursday, 18 December 2008 20:04 (25 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

There have been 2. 1 about 3 years back and the other a few months ago.

I started them both!

wow i thought was best band NAME ever, and was going to nominate The The or something.

best band ever hmm.

i'll wait for the poll.

Neil Young & Crazy Horse doesn't count?

― President Keyes, Thursday, 18 December 2008 20:01 (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Sorry! Yes it does. poll amended.

SHS, i said POLL thread! not sure how i missed that most recent EB eulogy tho, they are indeed the chips

Ok. I am changing my vote from Nirvana to Fleetwood Mac, since it should definitely be on the list.

― Mordy, Thursday, 18 December 2008 19:55 (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Vote amended.

SHS, i said POLL thread! not sure how i missed that most recent EB eulogy tho, they are indeed the chips

― country matters, Thursday, 18 December 2008 20:15 (25 seconds ago) Bookmark

That live thingie that appears to be filmed in someone's emptied out front room is one of the greatest things I have EVER seen.

A poll would be fun. Easier than this one I imagine...

you mean the one where they play SAS and Navyhead? 'tis nice.

No Chic? No Steely Dan? No Stereolab?

No Genesis?

WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH?

You gonna vote or what?

― Sven Hassel Schmuck, Thursday, 18 December 2008 20:05 (29 minutes ago) Bookmark

My vote was for A Tribe Called Quest.

You gonna vote or what?

― Sven Hassel Schmuck, Thursday, 18 December 2008 20:05 (29 minutes ago) Bookmark

My vote was for A Tribe Called Quest.

― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 18 December 2008 20:36 (28 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Sorry.

WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH?

― the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Thursday, 18 December 2008 20:32 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I'm running a nominations thread so that I can create a poll and, hopefully, get a result. (what it acomplishes is open to interpretation)

You gonna vote?

FWIW, the correct answer is The Cramps, for me. No more than three degrees of separation from anything else that I rate,

http://blogs.news.com.au/images/uploads/flagellant.gif

Color me zinged! I think.

since we're taking this seriously now I will cast my vote for hinder and I think I speak for d4n p3rry in this matter as well

Wasn't a zing on you souk.

Has Black Sabbath been officially nominated? If not, them. If so, then Blue Oyster Cult.

Has Black Sabbath been officially nominated? If not, them. If so, then Blue Oyster Cult.

― Bill Magill, Thursday, 18 December 2008 21:06 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Which is your favourite Bill?

Neither has been nominated yet.

Nominating:

Steely Dan

(strategem in play)

Sorry Bill, just re-read your post.

Black Sabbath it is.

FWIW if you're actually taking this seriously, my favourite band is Cardiacs rather than Earl Brutus

― country matters, Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:47 PM

another boy for jesus!

World Domination Enterprises.

Will anyone second?

"another boy for jesus!"

Can't decide if that makes me want to vote for Sabbath, Burzum, Butthole Surfers or Turbonegro more.

Talking Heads

The Minutemen

― MacDara, Wednesday, December 17, 2008 6:13 PM (Yesterday)

Good one! I want them, too. They were in High Fidelity.

― Bored American Aerospace Defense Command (BORAD) (contenderizer), Wednesday, December 17, 2008 6:14 PM (Yesterday)

3RD NOMINATION FOR MINUTEMEN PLZ

Ignore all other contenderizer posts

I don't know which band you picked from me since I listed off a few so I assume you took nirvana since I mentioned them first. But this poll needs genesis :/

Parliament/Funkadelic (4)
Can (4)
The Fall (3)
New Order (3)
Kraftwerk (3)
Earl Brutus (3)
New Order (2)
Joy Division (2)
Spacemen 3 (2)
Beatles (2)
X (2)
The Clean (2)
The Smiths (2)
The Who (2)

OKay HELLOOOOO THAT IS 3+2 = ***5*** votes for New Order! PUT THEM TOGETHER, THANKS. ;)

Also if I don't start seeing some mother fucking Velvet Underground & Can votes, I'm gonna start "*crackin' skulls*" (see: Breakfast Club movie, thanx)

this thread is ricky retardo

Isn't it, though?

I think this whole poll is fucking FASCIST. I'm not kidding. Derlict wasn't kidding when he said nothing good would come of it. I have tried not to tear my hair out at work over it.

Mr. Schmuck wants to play "cop" and get rid of block voting based upon the posters and/or band in question! That is so fucked up and not objective! FASCIST, I say. FASCIST.

The Kinks.. as they're the only choice I would have considered that's not yet nominated. Although I'm unsure if Nirvana has been nominated or not, in which case, that's who I pick.

The Vines are the new Nate Dogg.

It does strike me as akin to asking "what is your favorite product available at the supermarket". Some will pick Cabernet Sauvignon, some will pick rib-eye steaks, some will pick snack cakes, some will pick abrasive pads. At the very most it tells us something about the demographics of the forum during a short period. It tells us absolutely nothing about the actual merits of the artists.

I'm not a huge fan of polls on ILX. They tend to draw us in, but rarely offer much insight or tips for seeking out something new, and absolutely clutter the front page. There's some value in a tightly constrained poll: your favorite Nordic Progressive Folk album, or your favorite nu-gaze act of this decade. That sort of poll draws attention to things that might have been missed as the press of new releases have obscured recent gems. An ILX equivalent of what I consider and useful poll might be "what is your favored red wine grape variety". Its meaningful and productive in that it encourages people to split hairs, and offer descriptive distinctions that will aid both those of us with a passing acquaintance, and future readers delving into the ILM archives, to determine "I like X, should I hunt down Y or Z?".

Okay, so that's one for "I prefer disliking polls to CAN."

Which is fine, but more votes for CAN pls. Also, need more people to deduct votes from Hoy Div, etc. You can deduct votes, right?

a hoy hoy division

Can I be alt: and say this is proving to be an excellent idea for a poll?

Some discussion, some controv, some wide ranging selections, and the obvious 'choices the genpub would make' haven't even been mentioned.

You go, Sven. You go.

Cardiacs!!!

without a doubt

It seems I made a mistake and after checking the votes again, the second entry for New Order on the list from yesterday has been deleted. Not sure where it came from but New Order currently have 3 votes.

One or two people are still not reading this properly and are nominating bands simply on the basis of no one else having nominated them yet. If you have done this, please let me know and I will ammend your vote. It's your favourite band of all time youre voting for. 1 band, 1 vote.

I can understand some people feeling that this poll is a little futile in that, all it will ever show is votes cast at the time of the poll, for artists which are currently the voter's favourite. As i stated above, what it proves is debatable, although the more votes are cast, the more accurate picture will emerge.

The issue of block voting is obviously an important one and somebody has to take a stand when this occurs. As I am running the poll, I will be doing this. Nothing Fascist, all done in the name of fair play and accuracy.

Can I also ask that people don't E-mail me with votes? It makes it look dodgy when a band who has only been mentioned once suddenly has 4 or 5 votes.

Other than that, this is going as well as I expected so far. plenty of votes coming in and, as Mark G stated, plenty of interesting debate. Hopefully, this will continue and, when a final result emerges some time around the middle of January, we'll have played this to death and everybody will have had a vote and a say with an overall winner emerging.

Keep voting. (and as I stated earlier, If you want to change your vote, please state what FROM as well as what to. I will find your original vote eventually, but it will save me time)

Derelict is my new hero...

What? Did someone say Hoy Division???????
Oh my god, it's gone too far.

We need to get a referee in here.

WHERE ARE THE LOVELY VELVET UNDERGROUND PEOPLE WHO WILL VOTE FOR THEM IN THIS FREAKING POLL?

It makes it look dodgy when a band who has only been mentioned once suddenly has 4 or 5 votes.

Okay woah, woah, woah. I have never emailed you dude, but this bit is worrying. Is no band allowed to have more than 4 or 5 votes?

It makes it look dodgy when a band who has only been mentioned once suddenly has 4 or 5 votes.

Okay woah, woah, woah. I have never emailed you dude, but this bit is worrying. Is no band allowed to have more than 4 or 5 votes?

― Bat Penatar (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Friday, 19 December 2008 10:02 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

Anyone can vote how they like but I've had a few E-mails with votes. It just looks shady when a band that has only been nominated once on this thread suddenly has a few votes (via E-mail, which are, therefore, not listed)

If, for instance, I listed the votes and Faith No More were suddenly leading the nominations when they are barely mentioned on the thread, people would cry shenanigans...and we don't want that... (shenanigans, not Faith No More)

hahahahahahahahahah I HATE FAITH NO MORE!!! ahahahahha
THEY SHOULD BE ERADICATED FROM THE ENTIRE PLANET! I am SO glad to share my hatred of that band with someone after all these years!!! Thank you. I won't complain anymore about the thread. Even if Steely Dan win, I promise I won't take anyone outside the pub. Except if they beat the Fall, then things are really going to get ugly.

But this entire thread is ugly. I'll bow out, though. Let the people speak.

The Velvet Underground

Melvins

Well, the band I am nomming is my favourite ever. (World Domination Enterprises).

Who I suspect will not get enough threshhold votes.

Whereas the VU probably will, and will quite possibly get my vote when the shortlist happens.

Unless the Fall make it. Or, or, or....

Goole. You can't have Mannie Fresh as your nomination as he is a solo artist.

Pixies

Changing my vote from Earl Brutus to The Vines

Fleetwood Mac, X or VU.

New Order

At the risk of cliche... surely the Clash deserves a mention here (at least as much as, say, the Melvins).

But since I am a big ol' 80s-head, if pressed I would actually prefer Talking Heads or, god help me, REM.

Wtf, first Pixies nom! Or even mention. Crazy.

swans stooges sabbath

or maybe the fall

would get behind a swans campaign

Jimi Hendrix Experience
Stooges
John Coltrane quartet

You're only allowed to nominate one band, apparently

XTC!

Nathalie (Stevienixed)
Ye Mad Puffin
Nick B.

Sorry! all great Nominations but I can only take 1 nomination per person.

Edward III. I already have a vote from you (Kraftwerk) do you want to change this, and if so, what to?

Stickman. Your vote has been changed...thanks for that...

XTC!

― kuba a, Friday, 19 December 2008 15:08 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

That's all my faves nominated except 1.

XTC too!

that was vote for kraftwerk 3, the hybrid mechasoldier of spacemen 3 and kraftwerk, do try to keep up

Sorry. I thought you were registering the third vote for Kraftwerk, not doing comedy.

it would be useful to have, before you close noms, a full list. i'm a tactical voter and if the vines already have the necessary two, i'll probably bung my vote towards hot hot heat or the bluetones.

I'm gonna update the list periodically, maybe every 2 or 3 days and then publish lists 2 days before, 1 day before and then 4 hours before the end of nominations. (damn my OCD!)

I leave the comedy to the people voting for the vines

xpost

I leave the comedy to the people voting for the vines

xpost

― Edward III, Friday, 19 December 2008 15:29 (59 seconds ago) Bookmark

Fair do's.

What's your vote?

I leave the comedy to the people voting for the vines

yeah what is your vote?

lol the vines

the rappin' duke is not considered a "band" so I am abstaining in protest

I'd like to change my vote from the Wurzels to the Vines please.

Now you're just being silly

vines is the new hinder

Aw you guys!

Vines is the craziest people.

In the straight two-way fight between the Vines and the Courteeners I'm going to have to go with the Vines.

okay you convinced me, change my vote from the rappin' duke to the vines

really though, how can you turn your back on this

cruel & unusual poll

I'm going to take away my vote for the Beatles and give it to The Magnetic Fields.

112 votes so far...

Top 5...

Can
New Order
Parliament/Funkadelic
The Fall
Smiths/Cardiacs/Kraftwerk/Minutemen/Smiths.

I'd like to nominate The Vines

Vote registered.

The Vines currently have 0 votes but are coming up on the rails.

Cardiacs.

Put me down for some Craig Nicholls love.

The Vines currently have 0 votes but are coming up on the rails.

http://weblogger.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/j_accuse.jpg

Sonic Youth

Mekons

http://weblogs.newsday.com/news/local/longisland/politics/blog/al-Gore.jpg

Voting for the Vines.

you realize that you can only have 50 options in polls right?

― VISION QUEST TO KNOCK YOU UP (John Justen), Thursday, December 18, 2008 5:12 PM

For god's sake.

I've explained this 4 times already...it really couldn't be any simpler!

you play bass through a guitar amp don't you

einsturzende neubauten

no votes for the boredoms wtf ilm

you play bass through a guitar amp don't you

― VISION QUEST TO KNOCK YOU UP (John Justen), Saturday, 20 December 2008 21:32 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

I've been known to.

Coltrane, Tyner, Garrison & Jones

bands with 2 or more votes so far as follows so far as follows.

In no paticular order

The Fall(4)
Parliament/Funkadelic (4)
New Order (4)
Earl Brutus (2)
Spacemen 3 (2)
Beatles (2)
The Clean (2)
X (2)
Joy Division (2)
Can (3)
Kraftwerk (3)
Minutemen (3)
The Who (3)
Fleetwood Mac (2)
Cardiacs (3)
Smiths (2)
Nirvana (2)
Velvet Underground (2)
Steely Dan (2)

59 other acts have received 1 vote.

Coltrane, Tyner, Garrison & Jones

― nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 20 December 2008 21:46 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

No Reggie Workman?

Sorry, Can has 4 votes, not 3.

Notable omissions so far:

Wang Chung
Kula Shaker
Jimi Hendrix Experience

The vines

JAMES BROWN IS LEFT UP OUT OF THIS BITCH BECAUSE HE ISN'T A BAND????????????????

my vote is for the vines

I've still got better dance records than you. Wanna fight?

someone mention GAY DAD yet? nomnomnominated!

Thanks to all who have nominated so far. This is actually going pretty well at the moment but, obviously, the more votes made, the more representative the final poll will be.

Please keep voting.

The Vines

Sven Hassel Shutthefuckup

I can has 4 votes?

http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:_jYCS_pNiIuPuM:http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa299/yupko/LolCatRenderer2.aspxtopDOESWANTbottomsize60imagenamecheeses.jpg

i think marg g should get all the votes and then lo k thread

Just trying to do something worthwhile.

The biggest problem with this board nowadays, and I've been posting on here since pretty much the beginning, are the levels of arrogance and smug coziness which have always been in evidence but are now endemic. It's the reason why so many of the most insightful posters no longer visit here. When I log into this site, I feel like I am about to be confronted by the same puerile, smug, cunts that have made previous jobs so unbearable.

What is it with you people?

I used to visit here to read intelligent argument and insightful prose and, occasionally, contribute something myself but, like many others, I rarely bother nowadays.

If you don't like the poll, just ignore it...not a problem! Just trying to do something interesting and worthwhile!

I know I'm wasting my time and will just get belittled even more, but, to be honest, I really don't care.

Thanks to all who have contributed to this poll.

Leave them Sven, they ain't worth it. One more vote for The Rolling Stones.

The Rolling Stones

Pah. A poor man's Earl Brutus.

Lest there be any doubt here, by the way: I am totally fucking serious about this. Earl Brutus were the best band in the world, ever. The more I consider this, the more I believe I shall one day be proved right.

Louis: it's not too late to change your vote, you know.

People, your nominations will not be counted as the official poll has already begun.

Best Band Ever. Official Poll

Has anyone mentioned the vines yet

Beastie Boys

The biggest problem with this board nowadays, and I've been posting on here since pretty much the beginning, are the levels of arrogance and smug coziness which have always been in evidence but are now endemic. It's the reason why so many of the most insightful posters no longer visit here. When I log into this site, I feel like I am about to be confronted by the same puerile, smug, cunts that have made previous jobs so unbearable.

What is it with you people?

I used to visit here to read intelligent argument and insightful prose and, occasionally, contribute something myself but, like many others, I rarely bother nowadays.

ilm tends to rise to the occasion and people still appear to make intelligent arguments and provide insightful prose - the recent round of polls that pitted stooges/sabbath/vu vs every other band in the world were entertaining and worthwhile.

now I appreciate you being all scientific with your approach but when you yield a list like the one below, well, I agree that it's kind of depressing and underwhelming... but blaming snarkers seems like some mislaid sour grapes, especially since most of ilx's "rabid dogs" have been sent to the cornfield by this point. I hope you feel better after blowing off some steam, though.

The Fall(4)
Parliament/Funkadelic (4)
New Order (4)
Earl Brutus (2)
Spacemen 3 (2)
Beatles (2)
The Clean (2)
X (2)
Joy Division (2)
Can (3)
Kraftwerk (3)
Minutemen (3)
The Who (3)
Fleetwood Mac (2)
Cardiacs (3)
Smiths (2)
Nirvana (2)
Velvet Underground (2)
Steely Dan (2)

The Clash

(If held to one nom, and disregarding those that are already on the list)

People, your nominations will not be counted as the official poll has already begun.

Best Band Ever. Official Poll

― Official Best Band Ever Poll Moderator (Noodle Vague), Monday, December 22, 2008 7:54 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I, too, have gone rogue on this matter, and with no prior knowledge of Mr. Vague's commendable gesture. When two events occur simultaneously, pertaining to the same object of inquiry, it can mean only one of two things: (A) a cataclysmic non-event has occurred; or (B) a paradigm shift as occurred

but when you yield a list like the one below, well, I agree that it's kind of depressing and underwhelming

Of course the outcome was a given from vote 1. This is ILM: the orthodoxies, high priests and sacred cows are well established. But it's not Sven's approach that's yielding the all-too-predictable list, it's the board. I'm really not sure where all the negativity is coming from.

When I log into this site, I feel like I am about to be confronted by the same puerile, smug, cunts unfortunate lack of math skills that has made previous jobs so unbearable.

I don't know if my mention of it earlier counted, but since number of nominations counts, definitely put me down for Nirvana, either way.

Not Fushitsusha?

Loyalties die hard...

Has anyone nominated the Vines yet?

i dont think so. perhaps you should

This is easy: Led Zeppelin

has genesis been nominated yet, because I retract nirvana and vote genesis

Fugazi
Sunny Day Real Estate
Motorpsycho

Maybe if this poll didn't have such stupid rules, it would have been more successful. How many ILM users did you really think were going to nominate a band? Let's be super generous and say 100. But to have a list of top 20 bands, you would need at least 20+19+18+17+16+15+14+13+12+11+10+9+8+7+6+5+4+3+2+1 = 210 ILX voters. Otherwise you would have ties that would exceed the maximum poll options # (as you currently have since 59! bands have received only 1 vote). Also, those 210 non-existent voters would have to vote perfectly. Otherwise you would need more than 210 voters to establish your top 20.

Here is a perfectly intelligent way you could have fixed this: Allow each ILX voter to nominate 5-10 bands. Possibly give them X amount of points to distribute among as many nominations as they'd like. Maybe every voter gets 10 points. You can give all 10 to Fleetwood Mac, or give 1 point to 10 different bands. Then count up the points and create your list from that.

As it is now, though, it is the worst possible way to run this sort of poll. Is it really surprising that people aren't interested in playing along?

CREEDENCE

All you need for a top 20 (or, be be reasonable, a top 15-25) are a few clear front-runners and a double handfull of also-rans. Which is what we've got now. Hell, according to Sven's last count, there are 19 bands with more than one vote, which is exactly what he seems to have been shooting for. So what's the problem? Complaining that this is about bad math is horseshit.

The problem is that he wanted a list of top 20, with ties being listed. If ties were listed now, there would only be 3 ranks (and a bunch of ties).

If ties were listed now, there would only be 3 ranks...

I think it extends from the math. I know that I thought 1 nomination per person was pretty shitty. And since the thing seemed like bullshit from the beginning, I didn't take it seriously. When everyone nominated the Vines (obv. a joke pick, but so what?) and Sven began to censor the votes, I think it just inspired more hostility. If he had addressed the reason no one was taking it seriously, instead of going OMGZ THE INTERNET IS SERIOUS BIZNESS, then he might have been able to avoid some of the hostility.

Also, comments like For god's sake. I've explained this 4 times already...it really couldn't be any simpler! Or 1 band only or I'll have to discount your vote. is a bit Sven Hassel Obnoxious.

Well the whole position of "this exercise has value although I can't say what that value is" is patently retarded; we're not a board that specializes in one type of music so everyone defaults to stuff like The Fall, P-Funk, Can, and the result is going to be some canonical freshman-in-college-discovering-slsk band winning. What value does that add? Are we proving that music dorks like Can?

a bit Sven Hassel Obnoxious.

Well, for me it was, "puerile, smug, cunts that have made previous jobs so unbearable." But, yeah, no argument. Still, I can see as how our man Sven felt driven to the wall by all the not-serious-takingness and Vinesness and so forth.

and the result is going to be some canonical freshman-in-college-discovering-slsk band winning. What value does that add? Are we proving that music dorks like Can?

Seriously, who gives a shit if ILX votes The Vines as best band ever?

xpost man these are the things I stay up at night thinking about.

xpost: I guess it only matters if you want to know what ILX honest-and-for-truly most likes. It's okay to wonder what people really like (as opposed to what they say they like in order to amuse themselves), but I guess I agree that it's poor form to try and FORCE the world to cough up its "real answer" for you.

So, yeah, Vines.

I know that polls like this can come across all lowest common denominator and I'm also aware that all I would be doing was collecting a list of bands to put into a poll some time in the new year. I saw it as an excercise, not in voting but in discussing a selection of bands from right across the musical canon that might not otherwise get compared before coming to consensus of a kind, albeit in the broadest sense.

In many ways it has been pretty successful. Plenty of votes, a wide range of bands and a few clear front runners. I decided to run the poll in the way I did on the basis of the idea, perhaps misguided, that it would bring about interesting discussion. I suppose it has, but not in the way I envisaged.

I worked the maths side of things out with an expectation of getting about 200 votes. In hindsight, I should maybe have gone with 3 band or, as suggested upthread, 5, but this seemed a good way of polarising opinion. It will definitely work.

As for the accusations of over-seriousness, Looking back over some of my earlier responses, I can see how I might have handled this better, and therefore avoided my little temper tantrum yesterday, but some of the abuse was over the top.

But the fucking Vines...

I'm really not that serious. some of my responses to other threads bear this out I hope.

There have been about 130 votes up till now, give or take. I could knock this on the head but I'd quite like to carry on and create a poll after the new year and if others agree, please keep voting. I still think this could be worthwhile although what it will ulitimately prove is debatable.

Maybe we could have a seperate discussion thread about that.

xpost: I guess it only matters if you want to know what ILX honest-and-for-truly most likes. It's okay to wonder what people really like (as opposed to what they say they like in order to amuse themselves), but I guess I agree that it's poor form to try and FORCE the world to cough up its "real answer" for you.

― Bored American Aerospace Defense Command (BORAD) (contenderizer), Tuesday, 23 December 2008 20:31 (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Definitely agree with this. It was a poor way of doing things.

Obviously New Order are the best band ever, as has already been proved scientifically elsewhere.

So I nominate Led Zeppelin.

but in discussing a selection of bands from right across the musical canon that might not otherwise get compared

Dude this is where you lose me. Maybe there is valued discussion to be had from comparing the relative merits of Immortal, the Flatlanders, the Wu-Tang Clan, and Pere Ubu but I can't really get my head around it. To gank the supermarket metaphor someone use above, I may have a bag of haricotes vertes, a jar of organic, unsalted, chunky peanut butter, a flank steak, and a six-pack of Asahi in my house, but the question of which of those is best is never gonna come up. They are for different things.

But, see, in defense of this Sven, if you were to poll hairycoats vs. OUCPB vs. flank steak vs. Asahi FITE! no one would snark or sneer. They'd just log their damn vote for peanut butter or nominate Fakin Bacon or whatever, and then move on.

The question isn't whether Funkadelic are actually better than fucking New Order, but how the chips are gonna fall. Or not.

That is OTM--early on it was just really hard to tell if this was a thread to fuck around on or if it was like a grand experiment to prove something, which is kinda of how we got here.

Dude this is where you lose me. Maybe there is valued discussion to be had from comparing the relative merits of Immortal, the Flatlanders, the Wu-Tang Clan, and Pere Ubu but I can't really get my head around it. To gank the supermarket metaphor someone use above, I may have a bag of haricotes vertes, a jar of organic, unsalted, chunky peanut butter, a flank steak, and a six-pack of Asahi in my house, but the question of which of those is best is never gonna come up. They are for different things.

― the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 23 December 2008 21:11 (31 minutes ago) Bookmark

This is, admittedly, where I sort of got it wrong from the start. I saw this as mainly a thread for nominations and the poll as being the place where the discussion will take place, ie when the list was down to 20. I like polls (although I can understand why some don't) I enjoy the discussion and the comparison aspect and I always knew that it wouldn't prove who was the best band or anything like that but that it might show where a few people's heads were at.

The question isn't whether Funkadelic are actually better than fucking New Order, but how the chips are gonna fall. Or not.

― Bored American Aerospace Defense Command (BORAD) (contenderizer), Tuesday, 23 December 2008 21:17 (25 minutes ago) Bookmark

OTM! but in 1 line instead of my 5.

That is OTM--early on it was just really hard to tell if this was a thread to fuck around on or if it was like a grand experiment to prove something, which is kinda of how we got here.

― the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 23 December 2008 21:22 (19 minutes ago) Bookmark

Perhaps my attitude allowed things to get muddled in this regard. I think it will prove something, but I guess that's another debate again.

The Duke Ellington Orchestra

― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, 18. joulukuuta 2008 2:16 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Okay, if Prince isn't allowed, I'm gonna second Timi Yuro's nomination. So another for The Duke Ellington Orchestra.

"another vote"

Damn, thanks, I was having a hard time figuring out what you meant.

I've just discovered that ILX users can simply eliminate polls from their view via the "preferences" tab. This site has become far more welcoming.

surprised no one has mentioned the vines!

They really don't get enough love on ILM.

the Funk Brothers, ya asinine chumps!

did anyone nominate the vines?

ah, classic sockpuppets we have loved

http://ring.cdandlp.com/gmsi/photo_grande/113940528.jpg

The Shaggs would win this no contest.

They've baconed, dog.