Link to 2008 thread:
Rolling Country 2008 Thread
On deck:
January 2009
* Various Artists - Undone: A MusicFest Tribute to Robert Earl Keen [Live) 05 January * Alecia Nugent - Hillbilly Goddess 15 January * Pat Green - What I'm For 27 January * Various Artists - Johnny Cash Remixed 27 January
February 2009
* Dierks Bentley - Feel That Fire 03 February * Wynonna - Sing 03 February * Michael Martin Murphey - Buckaroo Blue Grass 10 February * Jake Owen - Easy Does It 24 February
March 2009
* Raul Malo - Lucky One 03 March * Alison Brown - The Company You Keep 03 March * Dailey & Vincent - Brothers from Different Mothers 31 March
April 2009
* Emerson Drive - Believe 07 April
― President Keyes, Thursday, 1 January 2009 03:03 (seventeen years ago)
http://redneckerson.blogspot.com/
I'd like to call attention to this excellent Full album MP3 blog-- Red Neckerson's Radio Roundup. Mostly featuring albums from the 50s-70s.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 1 January 2009 03:31 (seventeen years ago)
Maybe the moderators should fix the spelling of this thread, but anyway...
From '08 thread:
Speaking of the future, not to jump the gun or anything, these are my favorite country albums of 2009 so far:
Megan Munroe – One More Broken String (Diamond)Chuck Mead – Journeyman’s Wager [label tk]Dierks Bentley – Feel The Fire (Capitol)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 22:47 (2 days ago) Permalink
Bentley album, after a few listens, seems to have one great song ("I Can't Forget Her," gorgeously spooky and smokey use of spaghetti western spaces from the desert with sand blowing around), a couple good ones at the beginning ("Life On The Run"'s hard fugitive Southern rock boogie, "Sideways"' blatant dancefloor-filler for the ladies), and way too much mere competence).
Robert Keen Undone tribute: Two sprawling dics, material that often seems promisng but it is rarely sung in a captivating way. Gets wearing sooner than it should.
Raul Malo: ex-Maverick sings consistently mediocre material in consistently excellent voice; dabbles in unfashionable genres.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 1 January 2009 05:41 (seventeen years ago)
This link should be up here too, obviously:
Calling most of the tracks on the new Dierks Bentley "mere competence" is probably more critical than I mean it to be. What I mean is that most of them just sound like more Dierks songs, just not as good or distinctive as the best ones on his first three albums (or last year's best-of CD.) Most of them are fine; a couple, if they become hits, will probably wind up standing out more than they seem to now.
Listened this morning to Ronnie McDowell's Personally (Epic, 1983), which I found for free on a sidewalk in Manhattan last month as part of a pile of other LPs, and suddenly I'm more curious about the guy. He's clearly another unacknowledged soul-music-as-country-pop singer, and a good one; apparently got his big break with an Elvis tribute single right after Elvis died in 1977, then relied a lot on his ability to sing a lot like Elvis (which I assume is where the r&b comes from, and I doubt he was alone in that as far as '70s/'80s country guys go -- Billy "Crash" Craddock comes to mind.) Apparently he's also done entire albums of soul covers, and did one in '93 (which I've never heard) called Country Dances. Also seems to have an obsession with older women -- had a cheesy early '80s hit of that name (which I think I have on a compilation somewhere), and does one on Personally called "38 Special" about a woman who is both special and, um, 38. I like that one a lot, and on the second side, the first couple melodies sound like they could be played back to back with the Skatt Brothers' disco-country classic "Midnight Companion" almost -- even the one where he talks about him and his baby listening to bluegrass out in the country, which I don't buy for a minute. Best song is probably "You're Gonna Ruin My Bad Reputation." Also, he doesn't look country at all -- Just looks like your usual facial-haired suburban '70s swingtown sleazeball. It's a good look! If anybody has any thoughts about the guy, by all means post them here.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 1 January 2009 15:19 (seventeen years ago)
(Oops, hadn't noticed that Prez Keyes had already posted that link, sorry.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 1 January 2009 15:21 (seventeen years ago)
that robert earl keen tribute somehow manages to exclude most of my favorite r.e.k. songs. of, course, "material that often seems promising but" is not a bad summation of r.e.k. overall.
― tipsy mothra, Thursday, 1 January 2009 16:13 (seventeen years ago)
xp Actually, come to think of it, Eddie Rabbit had pretty much the same facial hair in the early '80s -- not to mention a similar relationship to Elvis (he'd written "Kentucky Rain") and rockabilly in general. (Though at least McDowell came from Tennessee, rather than Brooklyn.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 1 January 2009 16:35 (seventeen years ago)
Even more announced 2009 releases:
Adam Gregory Adam Gregory Big Machine/NSA/Midas March 17Back to Tennessee Billy Ray Cyrus Lyric Street January 13Buckaroo Blue Grass Michael Martin Murphey Rural Rhythm Records February 10Carolina Eric Church Capitol Nashville March 24The Company You Keep Alison Brown Compass March 3Everything Comes and Goes Michelle Branch Warner Bros. February 10For the Sake of the Song BlackHawk Airline TBAThe Future is Now Lonestar Lonestar/CO5 TBAI Got Your Country Right Here Gretchen Wilson Columbia TBAI Walk Alone Lorrie Morgan Stroudavarious TBAI'm About to Come Alive David Nail MCA Nashville TBAIf I Had My Way James House Friday TBAIn Overdrive Aaron Tippin Country Crossing TBALonesome Town Tanya Tucker Saguaro Road TBAMartina McBride Martina McBride RCA Nashville March 31Notes to the Coroner Chely Wright Vanguard TBARight Road Now Whitney Duncan Warner Bros. TBASon of a Preacher Man John Rich Warner Bros. Nashville April 7Sounds Like Life Darryl Worley Stroudavarious TBAUnmistakable Jo Dee Messina Curb TBAVoices Chris Young RCA TBA
― President Keyes, Thursday, 1 January 2009 17:18 (seventeen years ago)
I think the Eric Church and Chris Young were pushed back from 08.
I Got Your Country Right Here Gretchen Wilson Columbia TBA
I wonder if she'll try anything different this time out.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 1 January 2009 17:21 (seventeen years ago)
Anybody interested in more corner cowboys singing r&b, could check what I wrote about Dallas Frazier on RC 2008 (m'mm-m'mm: New Year's Day, with no hoppin' john or hawg jowl, but pork chops, turnip greens, blackeyed peas, cornbread suffice nice)
― dow, Thursday, 1 January 2009 21:08 (seventeen years ago)
My advance copy of Lucky One his first cd of new self-penned material in years is not great despite his fine voice. But live I think he is still worth seeing as I like the covers, the old Mavericks songs he does, and his between song chatter is always entertaining.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 2 January 2009 04:31 (seventeen years ago)
Here it is--the infamous No Depression critic's poll top 40
1. Alejandro Escovedo, Real Animal (Back Porch/Manhattan) -- 88 -- 142. Hayes Carll, Trouble In Mind (Lost Highway) -- 44 -- 63. Drive-By Truckers, Brighter Than Creation's Dark (New West) -- 43.5 -- 84. My Morning Jacket, Evil Urges (ATO) -- 39 -- 55. Ben Sollee, Learning To Bend (self) -- 37.5 -- 56. Lucinda Williams, Little Honey (Lost Highway) -- 37 -- 77. Shelby Lynne, Just A Little Lovin' (Lost Highway) -- 37 -- 68. Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds, Dig!!! Lazarus Dig!!! (Anti-) -- 37 -- 69. Randy Newman, Harps And Angels (Nonesuch) -- 36 -- 610. Kathleen Edwards, Asking For Flowers (Zoe/Rounder) -- 35 -- 6--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------11. Bon Iver, For Emma, Forever Ago (Jagjaguwar) -- 33 -- 512. Santogold, self-titled (Downtown) -- 33 -- 513. SteelDrivers, self-titled (Rounder) -- 29 -- 514. Hold Steady, Stay Positive (Vagrant) -- 28.5 -- 715. Glen Campbell, Meet Glen Campbell (Capitol) -- 28 -- 516. Abigail Washburn & the Sparrow Quartet, self-titled (Nettwerk) -- 28 -- 417. Jamey Johnson, That Lonesome Song (Mercury Nashville) -- 27 -- 418. Old 97's, Blame It On Gravity (New West) -- 27 -- 419. Bob Dylan, Tell Tale Signs: The Bootleg Series Vol. 8 (Columbia) -- 26 -- 320. Basia Bulat, Oh, My Darling (Rough Trade) -- 25 -- 3--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------21. Fleet Foxes, self-titled (Sub Pop) -- 24 -- 322. Calexico, Carried To Dust (Quarterstick) -- 23 -- 323. Various, Como Now: The Voices Of Panola Co., Miss. (Daptone) -- 22 -- 324. R.E.M., Accelerate (Warner Bros.) -- 21 -- 425. Justin Townes Earle, The Good Life (Bloodshot) -- 21 -- 326. Tift Merritt, Another Country (Fantasy) -- 20 -- 327. Teddy Thompson, A Piece Of What You Need (Verve Forecast) -- 18.5 -- 328. Gary Louris, Vagabonds (Ryko) -- 17 -- 329. Caroline Herring, Lantana (Signature Sounds) -- 16.5 -- 230. TV On The Radio, Dear Science (DGC/Interscope) -- 16 -- 3--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------31. Raconteurs, Consolers Of The Lonely (Warner Bros.) -- 16 -- 432. Felice Brothers, self-titled (Team Love) -- 16 -- 333. Ani DiFranco, Red Letter Year (Righteous Babe) -- 16 -- 234. Buika, Nina De Fuego (Warner International) -- 15 -- 235. B.B. King, One Kind Favor (Geffen) -- 14 -- 336. Jolie Holland, The Living And The Dead (Anti-) -- 14 -- 237. She & Him, Volume One (Merge) -- 13 -- 438. Michael Franti & Spearhead, All Rebel Rockers (Anti-) -- 13 -- 339. Giant Sand, Provisions (Yep Roc) -- 13 -- 240. Raphael Saadiq, Sure Hope You Mean It (Columbia) -- 12 -- 4
― President Keyes, Friday, 2 January 2009 16:35 (seventeen years ago)
Looks...pretty much like a shuffled version of every other critics' poll I've seen, especially once you get past that rootsy Top 10. Except with Ani Difranco instead of Lil Wayne, I guess. (Okay, there are some things I never heard of before on there -- Buika, for instance. And Glen Campbell's disappointing comeback album did way better than I would have predicted. But really, this isn't all that far from, say, the poll at Paste or somewhere like that, right? And a lot of it just supports my longstanding alt-country = indie-rock theory.)
xp I like Malo's version of Charlie Rich's "Life Has Its Little Ups and Downs" on that (otherwise fairly useless) Don Imus compilation last year. So maybe the biggest problem with the new album is that he's just better off not doing his own material? (How much did he write with the Mavericks? I should check my best-of CD, I guess. And how good were his last couple covers albums, which I never heard?) Given all the good songwriters in country who are mediocre singers, it shouldn't be hard for an (apparently) mediocre songwriter who's a good singer to find songs, I wouldn't think. If Gary Allen can cover Todd Snider, or Toby Keith (actually a really good songwriter himself, but still) can cover Fred Eaglesmith and Paul Thorn, a lack of memorable material really shouldn't be Malo's problem.
Another listen to that '83 Ronnie McDowell album this morning; turns out two of the less fun songs remind me of Kenny Rogers's '79 "You Decorated My Life" (partly in how Ronnie stretches out his "yooouuuuu"'s.) Again, probably not a surprise, since Rogers's singing style probably had a certain light r&b-ballad influence of its own (as I expect Lionel Richie, for one, would agree.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 2 January 2009 16:48 (seventeen years ago)
Wait, looking again at that No Depression list, I have a BIG question -- Where the fuck is James McMurtry?? Didn't he, like win the poll a couple years ago? That's really strange; is there a backlash I didn't know about, maybe because he sold out by going '80s AOR or something? (Also strange that Chris Knight and Old Crow Medicine Show don't seem to making any of these alt-country-leaning lists. What's up with that? I wouold think they'd fit right in, and they both made better albums that Hayes Carrl's to my ears.) (Alejando Esovedo's perch atop that ND list is cute too; it's not a bad record, but it's a lot cornier and spottier than people seem to give it credit for. But he was ND's artist of the '90s, right? Nobody can say the people there aren't loyal.) (Well, except in McMurty's case, anyway. And to be fair, that one this year was the best Escovedo album I've ever heard.)
Also nice to see Jamey Johnson as the token Nashville pick, obviously.
― xhuxk, Friday, 2 January 2009 21:59 (seventeen years ago)
By the way, while we're still speaking of '08 lists, Curmudgeon, did you see my explanation on the '08 thread about why Toby's best-of didn't make my Top 10? Did that make sense, or do you think my rationale is full of baloney? Curious...
― xhuxk, Friday, 2 January 2009 22:02 (seventeen years ago)
And speaking of alt-country, I should mention here that, though they've never grabbed me at all before (maybe because I never really tried), I don't hate all of the new (out Jan 5) album by the Gourds, Haymaker. They seem okay when they pick up the tempo and beat a little, like in "Tex-Mex Mile" and the sort of rockabilly "Fossil Contender." But mostly I just can't take the flat singing and lack of energy, even if there are hints of smart songwriting, like for instance in "Valentine," which seems to be trying to be some kind of slow '50s sock-hop stroll, maybe.
― xhuxk, Friday, 2 January 2009 22:19 (seventeen years ago)
Also. Here is me almost exactly a year ago, on Rolling Country '08:
thanks to Miley Cyrus and HorrorPops et. al., rockabilly suddenly may be starting to feel current again. Which seems to happen every 20 or 30 years or so, I guess.
― xhuxk, Monday, 7 January 2008 01:27
Didn't take me long to decide that was a foolish prediction, at least in part because the (not really all [that rockabilly anyway) HorrorPops album didn't really hold up for me. But then I saw this this morning, on another thread about acts who the British press is predicting might become hot new pop stars there this year:
Let's start with the Mail. Why? Well, they would appear to have only tipped the one artist (and you have to dig about on their website a lot to find this out), which means we can knock them off the quickest.
And that tip is... IMELDA MAY! She's a rockabilly artist from Dublin who's already been on Later, where Jeff Beck said he liked her. Songs on her MySpace include "Johnny Got A Boom Boom", "Big Bad Handsome Man", "Don't Do Me No Wrong", "Cry For Me Baby" and "Falling In Love With You Again":
Best of all, she's signed to UCJ, the same label as The Priests, The Fron Male Voice Choir and Thingy Out Of G4. So she'll be in the album chart at some point early this year, say number seven-ish, then proceed to hang about til June or so.
― William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 2 January 2009
Imelda May's Myspace claims that Kirsty MacColl was a fan, which considering she's been dead nearly a decade, would perhaps imply that May's lying about her age.
― Keep Carmody and Carry On (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Friday, 2 January 2009 10:59
Rolling UK Pop/Chart/"Few people would dispute that Elbow have given us the album of the year" Thread 2009
― xhuxk, Friday, 2 January 2009 22:51 (seventeen years ago)
A pretty decent amount of decent-and-better stuff on that No Dep Top 40, although (except for the track I tagged as disco Eagles) no way is Evil Urges countryoid at all! But it's decent, and occasionally better. Good to see they agreed with me about Truckers, Steeldrivers, Jamey Johnson, and (if I'd ever heard more than the uneven but sometimes inspired live broadcast) I might well agree with them about Abigail Washburn and the Sparrow Quartet, especially the stuff she learned while living in China, and applied to her (and their)Armericana. I dunno about Malo, being a country singer starting out in Miami might've made him bold in some ways, too cautious in others...?
― dow, Friday, 2 January 2009 23:27 (seventeen years ago)
Oh yeah,and Felice Brothers made in there too!
― dow, Friday, 2 January 2009 23:28 (seventeen years ago)
Xgau CG (this link will only last a month, but I'm not sure how else to do it now): Taylor Swift A-; Darius Rucker, Randy Travis, Ashton Shepherd honorable mentions; Sugarland, Kellie Pickler (!) choice cuts; Jamey Johnson, Blake Shelton, George Strait duds. (Plus lotsa blues, looks like):
http://music.msn.com/music/consumerguide/
― xhuxk, Friday, 2 January 2009 23:43 (seventeen years ago)
A pretty decent amount of decent-and-better stuff on that No Dep Top 40, although (except for the track I tagged as disco Eagles) no way is Evil Urges countryoid at all!
I like Evil Urges a lot, it's one of my favorite albums of 2008, and I can't even begin to imagine it as country music. It's their least country album, and they've never been very country.
― erasingclouds, Saturday, 3 January 2009 02:56 (seventeen years ago)
fwiw, No Depression finishers I never even heard of til now (though Don mentioned two of them a couple posts ago). (How country are these?)
5. Ben Sollee, Learning To Bend (self) -- 37.5 -- 516. Abigail Washburn & the Sparrow Quartet, self-titled (Nettwerk) -- 28 -- 420. Basia Bulat, Oh, My Darling (Rough Trade) -- 25 -- 323. Various, Como Now: The Voices Of Panola Co., Miss. (Daptone) -- 22 -- 328. Gary Louris, Vagabonds (Ryko) -- 17 -- 329. Caroline Herring, Lantana (Signature Sounds) -- 16.5 -- 232. Felice Brothers, self-titled (Team Love) -- 16 -- 334. Buika, Nina De Fuego (Warner International) -- 15 -- 2
I assume the Daptone comp is retro-soul, right? No idea about the others.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 3 January 2009 03:09 (seventeen years ago)
― xhuxk, Friday, January 2, 2009 10:02 PM (Yesterday)
The explanation made sense in some way for you personally, but if someone did not have any Toby Keith or any Rick Springfield cds, and they only had the money to buy 1 cd, are you saying you'd recommend that they get the '08 new Springfield over the '08 new Toby best-of?
Also as someone else said, I'm not sure how you can discern slight differences among 150 cds as you do. How is number 144 better than 148 and worse than 139?
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 3 January 2009 03:35 (seventeen years ago)
Buika is of Equatorial Guinea descent but grew up in Spain among gypsies. Her cd was popular with European world music fans and djs. She sounds like Nina Simone singing Spanish ballads inspired by Brazilan bossa nova and Portuguese fado. I like her but others might dismiss her as too staid.
As for Malo, I think he co-wrote a lot with the Mavericks. I like the songs online I've heard from his various covers cd, but his first solo cd seems the most varied (and more latin-sounding). That's my quick opinion based on online listening, I don't have all the solo efforts. He seems to have gotten in a rut when left alone to either write songs himself or select songs by others himself--he's got his supper club ballads, his certain old genres of country, etc. With the Mavericks he seemed (possibly with the help of his cowriters) to have more of a pop aspect. When I see him live I manage to just go with the flow and appreciate his singing, and his enjoyable between song chatter. Plus while he does a long show, its varied enough among all his genres to provide balance.
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 3 January 2009 03:46 (seventeen years ago)
28. Gary Louris, Vagabonds (Ryko) -- 17 -- 3
Gary Louris was in the Jayhawks. I only heard this solo album once but i wasnt too impressed, him trying to sing beyond the limits of his voice. Not very country, more in a sheryl crow/tom petty direction, but maybe not even that. Produced by the dude from the black crowes i believe.
― erasingclouds, Saturday, 3 January 2009 15:03 (seventeen years ago)
20. Basia Bulat, Oh, My Darling (Rough Trade) -- 25 -- 3
Basia Bulat is a Canadian indie-pop/folk singer with a pretty voice, lightweight songs. Not country at all as I remember it.
― erasingclouds, Saturday, 3 January 2009 15:05 (seventeen years ago)
That No Depression list is kind of puzzling: TV on the Radio, Fleet Foxes and the Hold Steady? I heard plenty of stuff this year that would make perfect sense on that list: D. Charles Speer, psychedelic country rock; Black Twig Pickers, Appalachian folk/old time; Jack Rose, instrumental country-folk/ragtime; Moondoggies, roots/country rock; Coydogs, power pop with a dash of Crazy Horse twang; Charlie Parr, country folk/blues...
― QuantumNoise, Saturday, 3 January 2009 16:12 (seventeen years ago)
made sense in some way for you personally, but if someone did not have any Toby Keith or any Rick Springfield cds, and they only had the money to buy 1 cd, are you saying you'd recommend that they get the '08 new Springfield over the '08 new Toby best-of?
Um...Sure, if the Springfield CD interests them more. There's tons of information available, Curmudgeon (including my own reviews I linked to); I seriously doubt that anybody out there is just starting at the top of my list, and buying each album from 1 to 150 when they have enough money saved up. If they are, they're obviously nuts. But I'm not really sure anyody should be using my lists as a buying guide to begin with, to be honest -- One of my favorite reviews of Stairway To Hell called it "one of the best and most useless record guides ever written" or something like that, which is totally fine with me. And I seriously doubt that anybody would argue that a repackaged Beatles or Elvis collection with all the hits in a whole new order should finish first in Pazz & Jop in every year such an album is released, just because there's people out there who might not own any Beatles or Elvis records. As for my explanation making sense "personally," I've never seen a Top 10 list that wasn't personal. Not that I can remember.
as someone else said, I'm not sure how you can discern slight differences among 150 cds as you do. How is number 144 better than 148 and worse than 139?
How is anybody's number 3 better than their number 7? Basically, at the moment I was making the list, given the choice, after months of in-depth research, #139 (Zac Brown Band) seemed more likely to be a rewarding listen than #144 (Cool Kids), which in turn seemed more likely to be a rewarding listen than #148 (Left Lane Cruiser.) (Last year, when sending my top 150 into Idolator, I added "the caveat that I will totally disagree with this list five minutes after I send it." But this year, the metric was made significantly more subjective and precise, and my job was made far easier, by a fine-tuned which-album-is-better calibrating device I got for Christmas. I'm pretty sure it's still classified Top Secret.) Honestly, though, I know some people think making a list this long is "perverse" (I'd just say it's "fun," but they're entitled to their opinion), but I'm just acting in the tradition of Xgau's Dean's Lists and the year-by-year lists at the back of Dave Marsh's Book of Rock Lists and the year-end 100-plus list Thurston Moore did in the middle of his fanzine Killer once in the mid '80s. And I really don't get why more critics don't make lists this long. The main fact of music in the '90s is that there's lots and lots and lots of it, which by definition means lots of it is good, and finding the good stuff makes like worthwhile. And if it takes a 150-album list for somebody out there to hear out about Mechanical Bull or the Reds or Frozen Bears or Killola or Prima J -- and consider that they might actually be more worth checking out than say TV on The Fucking Radio, which they all are -- that seems to me like a good thing.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 3 January 2009 16:15 (seventeen years ago)
(Oh wait, it's the '00s now, not the '90s, isn't it? Oops. Well, never mind.)
By the way, I checked my Mavericks best-of CD, and it didn't seem to have songwriting credits. Though I suspect they're out there somewhere.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 3 January 2009 16:19 (seventeen years ago)
(And I meant "significantly more precise and objective", obviously.) (Except I didn't really.) (And all that good music helps make life worthwhile. Or at least halfway bearable at times.)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 3 January 2009 16:40 (seventeen years ago)
That No Depression list also skimps on the bluegrass. Many quality releases this year, including Chatham County Line IV. Plus, banjoist Ralph White, formerly of the Bad Livers, released a great vinyl-only title on the Spirit of Orr imprint. Now that's pretty darn alternative.
― QuantumNoise, Saturday, 3 January 2009 16:59 (seventeen years ago)
That No Depression list is kind of puzzling: TV on the Radio, Fleet Foxes and the Hold Steady?
Yeah--a few years ago they had Kanye West on their list, but this year seems very indie rock weighted. And they don't stick to just American music either. (Though I guess Nick Cave's stuff has at times been Americana.) Like Chuck said, there's a lot of overlap with Paste's list. I guess the voters are just submitting their generic top 10s rather than their Alt-Country/Americana top 10s. Though I guess that folky, singer/songwritery stuff like Bon Iver and She & Him is close enough. In the past, I would have expected to see stuff like Charlie Louvin's new CD (maybe too recent) on the list.
Quite a few of those blog favorites-- Kasey Chambers, Lee Ann Womack, Joey + Rory-- didn't make their list either. I'm also surprised John Hiatt didn't make it.
― President Keyes, Saturday, 3 January 2009 17:03 (seventeen years ago)
Has the staff (and/or electorate) (or coverage, for that matter) changed significantly since ND went web-only? I haven't been watching closely myself, but if so, maybe that's where the differences come from...
― xhuxk, Saturday, 3 January 2009 17:53 (seventeen years ago)
concha buika's alright, took a date to see her at gwu a couple of years back, i don't regularly listen though. i think she might be making it in the latin american markets as well now if she hasn't been already, she was on some big award show recently.
― fauxmarc, Monday, 5 January 2009 03:41 (seventeen years ago)
Abigail Washburn and the Sparrow Quartet, especially the stuff she learned while living in China
i started an abigail washburn thread last year, which obv. went nowhere. i like the album pretty well. i'm not a big bela fleck fan, so this is at least my favorite thing he's been involved in. like i said there, "seems like it might appeal to art-folkies, joanna newsom fans, i don't know." to answer the "how country" question, in other words, not very.
Has the staff (and/or electorate) (or coverage, for that matter) changed significantly since ND went web-only?
not really. and it's not actually web-only; they're doing two book-like publications a year, in partnership with the university of texas. (i have a thing on dock boggs' banjo in the next one.) but as for the oddities of the ND list, it's not like no depression ever has had very firm lines about what is or isn't ND material. otoh, i have never submitted a ballot in the poll despite writing for them for years, because my favorite 10 things of any given year are just mostly so far outside the purview that it would seem silly, and i rarely have 10 things i like enough within the purview to justify a ballot. (i did vote in the "best records of the last 10 years" thing, because i only had to come up with 20 things from 10 years, which was easy.)
― tipsy mothra, Monday, 5 January 2009 05:16 (seventeen years ago)
(but the video clip i linked there in the abigail washburn thread is worth a look, it's pretty cool.)
Re: upthread discussion of describing a country singer as a traditionalist and wondering what that means-
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postrock/2008/12/best_of_2008_ashton_shepherd.html#moreAshton Shepherd Wash. Post blog interview by J. F. Dulac
Was there ever any question that you'd make a traditional-sounding album? That's not exactly the easiest sell these days.
It was always just gonna be what it is. I remember when we first started, me and [producer Buddy Cannon] were starting to get to know each other. I remember talkin' to him one day and I was telling him the different music that I love. I said, "Buddy, I love John Anderson's music. I love that sound, with the fiddles driving a lot of his songs." And I gave a couple of other examples of real country music that I like.
I was a little afraid then because I didn't really know Buddy. I knew a little of his history of course and just how legendary he is. But I didn't know what he was going to want to do with my songs. Producin', that's not what I do. I'm just a singer-songwriter. I forget how he said it exactly, but he said: "Ashton, you're country, and I am too. And that's the record we're gonna make." When I got off the phone, I felt like: Gosh, he gets it. He gets what I do. He was sayin': "We're both fans of real country music, and that's what we're going to go in the studio to make."
I haven't listened to the record in a long time. I've kept away from it so I could start to listen through it again at the end of this year and start to think about a third single for radio and everythin'. I forget how traditional it sounds in so many ways. It's still kind of contemporary compared to old country music. But when you listen to it after listenin' to the radio a lot, you go: Wow, this is pretty country! (Laughs.)
You know, I've always been a huge country music fan. In school, I went a little south or whatever you want to call it and listened to a little rap and a little rock because all of my friends did it. They weren't really country music fans. When I was in high school and grade school, whoever Hannah Montana was back then, that's who everybody loved. But I was listening to Clint Black and Garth Brooks and Alan Jackson and Patty Loveless on country music radio.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 5 January 2009 16:06 (seventeen years ago)
In school, I went a little south or whatever you want to call it and listened to a little rap and a little rock because all of my friends did it.
Ha ha:
There was a lot of pre-release hype about her being the return of Trad Country has been waiting for--based mostly on her debut at the GO Opry where some old timer was quoted saying "This girl has never heard a pop song in her life" (Yeah right.)
― President Keyes, Monday, 22 December 2008
Jane Dark, in his
http://janedark.com/2009/01/top_40_coundown_2008.html
― xhuxk, Monday, 5 January 2009 16:22 (seventeen years ago)
Meant to copy this, from Jane/Joshua:
mutations within hip-hop proper are massive and astonishing and nothing compared to the mutations within r’n’b, soul, rock, teenpop et al to adapt themselves so they could breathe in hip-hop’s atmosphere. What mostly retained its own genealogy was, clearly enough, country, which continued somehow not to be “pop music” (perhaps for this very reason). As a result, much of what had come to characterize rock had no choice but to flee into country, not the least of which would be the guitar solo, the long melody line, the sing along chorus, ripped jeans, and the narrative of starting a band. Country hasn’t become rock, as some like to say by way of explaining to themselves why they are willing to discuss country now; it has absorbed that part of rock that hip-hop didn’t.
I'm not sure what "some" he's referring too in that least sentence, though.
― xhuxk, Monday, 5 January 2009 16:26 (seventeen years ago)
Criticisms of recent Jane/Joshua postings here
rolling 2009 thread for when critics write something that makes you go o_O
― curmudgeon, Monday, 5 January 2009 17:01 (seventeen years ago)
More thoughtful and coherent and less mean-spirited criticisms of recent Jane/Joshua postings (uh, not to mention "Is it really possibly to love 150 albums that came out in a single year?") here:
http://blissout.blogspot.com/2009/01/lists-lists-lists-so-many-lists.html
Except, of course, I never claimed to "love" 150 albums. Like, more like. With increasing reservations as the list progresses, obviously. (And who knows, 30 years ago, this year's #1 Jamey Johnson may well not have made my top 50. But I haven't done that math yet.) Still curious which albums on my list Simon thinks are "Nu-Nu-Country" (okay, lots of them, probably) or "Oughties Oi" (Rose Tattoo? Eddy Current Suppression Ring? Jay Reatard? Thing is, a couple years ago, a real Oughites Oi album by Hard Skin made my Top 10, and I didn't hear any like that this year) or "Post-Neo-Freestyle" (Prima J, I guess?) Not to mention which groups he thought I made up. Which would be funny.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 01:31 (seventeen years ago)
QuantumNoise, I haven't heard Chatham County Line IV--they're back with Stamey? The second album produced by him seemed to choke a little, but the first was great, so this one is too, eh? I'll def have to check it out. I'd like to thing anybody could dig them as a song band, aside from any bluegrass interest (ditto this year's Steeldrivers debut).Here's my take on them, in '06:http://charlotte.creativeloafing.com/gyrobase/both_sides_of_the_line/content?oid=40857Tipsy, the Washburn and Sparrow broadcast I heard can prob still be found in the Woodsongs archive (and they always have Webcast video of each show as well) Xhux, here's what I mentioned about Felice Bros, in the Scene ballot posted on RC 2008:
Felice Brothers suggest baggy-pants carnies trailing Wild & Innocent-era Springsteen and backroads-backing-band to-stardom The Band, only at the other end of the Album Era. The tide’s gone out, mebbe never to return, so, in the classic manner, they treat records as promotional devices and calling cards, as 20th Century labels strongly urged most artists to do. On the merry-go-round, going to get their ashes hauled. Too darn cute for me sometimes, but it’s not me they’re looking for, babe (though if I buy a ticket they’ll punch it). The men might know, but the little girls understand.
― dow, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 16:23 (seventeen years ago)
Hilarious Wikipeida entry for an Uncle Dave Macon song I came across while searching a piece on music from the Great Depression a few weeks ago. (Second graph, unfortunately, has since been removed.)
The "Wreck of the Tennessee Gravy Train" is a folk song about politicians and bank failures. It is based on a true incident in Tennessee in 1930. After a scandal involving awarding contracts without bids, Henry Horton was re-elected governor of Tennessee. The Caldwell Company Bank collapsed soon afterward, leaving the state 6 million dollars in debt. An impeachment attempt against Horton was unsuccessful, but he did not run for an additional term. The affair also ruined the career of Senator Luke Lea
The train wreck of the gravy train was a historical event. All of the gravy flew on the residents in tennessee. They sued the gravy train because gravy was stuck in their hair and they couldn't wash it out for a long time. The gravy train never ran again. There still is a mess in tennessee and you can see where gravy spread on the houses of the residents. This historical event happened on December 12, 1998. twelve million people died because of this mess and twenty two people were injured badly by the gravy. Firemen were attacked too by the angered residents.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 16:52 (seventeen years ago)
"twelve million people died because of this mess"? yo Wiki!
― dow, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 16:58 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, that was great -- 12,000,000 dead; 22 badly injured.
Just found out that these are viewable on line (though you have to click on them to make them large enough to read) -- Some "Essentials" columns I've written in recent months for *Spin* (8 albums each):
Outlaw Country
http://digital.spin.com/spin/200812/?pg=108
Boogie Rock
http://digital.spin.com/spin/200811/?pg=106
Yacht Rock
http://digital.spin.com/spin/200901/?pg=92
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:21 (seventeen years ago)
I'll check those out, when I get time again on the good computer (with broadband). Speaking of Stamey, as I did above, this thing he's doing with Holsapple is for a good cause, and some collectors of 45s have told me this seems like a good series, so far.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Pop/Rock Legends Peter Holsapple and Chris Stamey to Give Free Concert at Euclid Records As Part of 45 RPM Charity Series
ST. LOUIS: Peter Holsapple and Chris Stamey, two founding members of the much beloved 80s pop/rock band the dB's, will be making their first St. Louis appearance together since 1991 at 1 pm Sunday, Feb. 1. What better way to kick off Super Bowl Sunday than a live performance by the masterminds behind such should-have-been monster smash hits as "Ask For Jill," "Amplifier," "Living a Lie" and "I Want to Break Your Heart"?Stamey and Holsapple formed the dB's in the late 1970s, and released two classic albums, "Stands For Decibels" and "Repercussion" with the original line-up before Stamey left the band behind for a solo career. Holsapple soldiered on for two more dB's albums. In 1991, the pair reunited for an album, "Mavericks," which led to their one and only St. Louis appearance together at Mississippi Nights. In the 90s, Holsapple was a member of the acclaimed Continental Drifters, and in recent years, the dB's have been working on a reunion album in between other gigs. Holsapple also writes his own blog, "Does This Band Make Me Look Fat" (www.halfpearblog.blogspot.com) and contributes to the New York Times exceptional music blog, "Measure For Measure." Stamey has released several solo albums, and produced work by Whiskeytown and Alejandro Escovedo among others.This will be the fourth in a series of live in-store performances to be followed up by the release of limited-edition 45 rpm singles recorded in the store. Each release will be strictly limited to 300 copies, and $1 for each one pressed will be donated to the New Orleans Musicians Relief Fund (NOMRF) to benefit musicians displaced or suffering loss of equipment in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. The performance will be recorded live, and Holsapple and Stamey will choose one or two songs to be released on the 7" single.Euclid Records has just launched a website devoted to the series:www.euclidsessions.com. Here you can find out about upcoming in-store events, read up on past events, subscribe to the series or order/pre-order upcoming 45's.Each release will be in a special package with the back sleeve designed by Firecracker Press, a terrific graphic and letterpress printshop here in St. Louis. Each front cover will be a unique 7 x 7" print, signed and numbered by various graphic artists such as Gary Houston, Guy Burwell, and more, suitable for framing or keeping as a front cover to each single.The 45s will be sold exclusively through the websites of Euclid Records (www.euclidrecords.com) and NOMRF (www.nomrf.org). Pricing will vary, as individual packages will each contain unique elements such as colored vinyl, etched vinyl, or other possibilities.Euclid RecordsSt. Louis,MOwww.euclidrecords.com
― dow, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 23:07 (seventeen years ago)
9513's (well, somebody named Brady Vercher's) overlooked country albums of 2008. I liked a couple songs on the Steve Azar one and the (tragic) Hacienda Brothers one; don't know any of the rest:
http://www.the9513.com/overlooked-albums-of-2008/
Been listening to the new (due 1-27) Pat Green CD -- just ten songs (which is probably enough), produced by Dan Huff. Seems...okay so far. A couple songs have real possibilities, notably a semi-rocker called "Lucky," which is confusing since Green's 2004 album was called Lucky Ones. One clue for what they're going for might be in the AP quote on the top of the press release: "Heartland rock leanings, with strains of Bruce Springsteen, Tom Petty and John Mellencamp." The only time the word "country" is even mentioned on the press bio is in the title of the "tongue-and-cheek" (sic) song "Country Star." Not sure whether that means they're going for a different audience now, or not.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 17:16 (seventeen years ago)
Also, album title is What I'm For, so I hope subsequent listens will give me an idea of what Pat is for. Maybe even what he's against. Though I'm not really counting on either being especially interesting, even in Springsteen/Mellencamp way.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 17:25 (seventeen years ago)
So, a day later, and a couple more listens into What I'm For and especially its title track, here are a few things that Pat Green says he is for: Laid-off factory workers (though presumably not them being laid off), giving ex-cons a second chance, inner-city teachers who don't give up, the wisdom of old men, getting out of debt, beat-up pawn shop guitars, crackers in his chili. Not exactly going out on many major limbs there, obviously, but I still like the list, and am gratified that he saw fit to acknowledge urban America in a positive way. And it's a postivity song, in general: If you know what he's for, he says, you don't have to ask what he's against. A sign of the post-election times, I'm guessing, and a bid to fill the Born In the USA/Scarecrow recession-rock void (though I bet Bruce's imminent album will go for the gold in that department as well.) The parts where he lists good people with good jobs also remind me a lot of Alabama's "40 Hour Week (For a Livin')", populist Cougaresque country from 1985 (early Farm Aid era.)
And then Pat goes immediately into a song called "Feeling Good Tonight"; haven't paid attention to the words, but the guitars start pretty blatantly at "What's So Funny (Bout Peace Love and Understanding)" (Costello cover of Brinsley Schwarz), then switch toward Mellencamp's "Small Town" for most of the rest of the song (and tracing the sound way back, there's probably some McGuinn and some Townshend in there.) Rest of the album seems to have a decent portion of expansive, nuanced rock on it, sometimes moody. Sounds real good so far.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 8 January 2009 15:26 (seventeen years ago)
Wanted to like the new album by Saffire The Uppity Blues Women (who always look like cool biracial lesbian golden girls with grandma-punk haircuts on their CD covers) more than the new album by the Nighthawks, but nope, the latter has two okay Dylan covers and an okay Chuck Berry rip ("Jana Lea") (plus a pointless cover of the theme from The Wire, but what the heck) whereas the latter has 20+ songs that are real hard to sit through plus the usual blandification production that, I swear, has pulled down just about every blues CD I've heard on Alligator Records for the past few years. So Nighthawks win. Not that I'm recommending their album or anything. (Apparently they have about 20. I've never heard one I wanted to keep, but I haven't heard that many, so I wouldn't put it past them. Wouldn't put it past Saffire the Uppities either)
― xhuxk, Friday, 9 January 2009 16:28 (seventeen years ago)
(I mean the former -- Saffire -- has 20+ etc.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 9 January 2009 16:29 (seventeen years ago)
Eight best songs on Jamie O'Neal's Shiver (Mercury, 2000), which I bought for $1.00 last year:
1. "There Is No Arizona" -- the hit!2. "Frantic" -- bluegassy bubble-rap!3. "No More Protecting My Heart" -- super boppy pop!13. "To Be With You" -- hot spacey Spanish-guitar sex fantasy!8. "The Only Thing Wrong" -- suburban working-woman blues!9. "I'm Still Waiting" -- big booming AC ballad!11. "Sanctuary"1. "When I Think About Angels"
― xhuxk, Friday, 9 January 2009 17:33 (seventeen years ago)
(Oops, I swtiched from numbers-of-preference to CD track numbers three songs in. Should be 1 through 8! Also, I probably should have stopped at five or six.)
Five best songs on Joe Dee Messina's self-titled album (Curb, 1996), which also cost me $1 last year:
1. "Heads California, Tails Carolina"2. "You're Not In Kansas Anymore"3. "Walk To The Light"4. "He'd Never Seen July Cry"5. Lots of songs tied for fifth place
― xhuxk, Friday, 9 January 2009 17:38 (seventeen years ago)
(Oops, heads and tails were the other way around for those two "C" states. And the coin was a quarter. And the Kansas song might be even better - It's close, and they're both totally great.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 9 January 2009 17:40 (seventeen years ago)
Also, judging from both of those albums, I really like country women who sing songs about states.
― xhuxk, Friday, 9 January 2009 17:42 (seventeen years ago)
(FIVE states among the three best songs, total, if you count both North and South Carolina separately.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 9 January 2009 17:43 (seventeen years ago)
Chely Wright Let Me In (MCA, 1997), also $1 last year I think, not as good as aforementioned O'Neal or Messina albums, plus there's no track nearly as excellent as Chely's '99 "Single White Female" on it, so marginal overall, but I kind of like "Shut Up And Drive" (Drifters rhythm under girl talking to self, maybe or maybe not as good as Rhianna's song of the same name); "Emma Jean's Guitar" (a '50 Gibson which Pat Green would like since it came from a pawn shop); "Feelin Single And Seein' Double" (cover of rockabilly tune that I know as being George Jones's, though apparently Emmylou has done it too, not sure whose is more famous.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 9 January 2009 18:36 (seventeen years ago)
9513's ridiculous list of the top 50 best country songs of 2008:
http://www.the9513.com/the-best-country-songs-of-2008/
― xhuxk, Friday, 9 January 2009 19:17 (seventeen years ago)
I'm sorry, you can't have the Groundhogs' James Road thing and NOT at least one album or collection by Savoy Brown. And where's Ten Years After? "I'm Going Home" is the sword in the stone of the genre. Now, technically, Foghat was Savoy Brown minus Kim Simmonds and Chris Youlden, but SB's most successful US boogie record was Street Corner Talkin' which came right after Foghat was replaced by a new band.
― Gorge, Friday, 9 January 2009 22:16 (seventeen years ago)
Here's Edd Hurt's list from that No Dep poll. (I post it not only 'cause I respect his writing but 'cause I'd wondered, after he stopped posting here in September and his email address only got bounces, if he were still alive. Presumably this is proof that he is. Either that, or he's got a lot of sway with the postal service up in heaven.)(Also has been getting published in various Nashville papers, another possible sign of being not dead.)
Jamey Johnson, That Lonesome Song – 10Chuck Prophet, Dreaming Waylon's Dreams – 9Randy Newman, Harps And Angels – 8Ross Johnson, Make It Stop – 7Various, Thank You Friends: The Ardent Records Story – 6Linda Perhacs, Parallelograms – 5Walter Becker, Circus Money – 4Holly Golightly & the Brokeoffs, /Dirt Don't Hurt – 3Como Now: The Voices of Panola Co., Mississippi – 2Raphael Saadiq, The Way I See It – 1
Hadn't heard of the Perhacs. A Google search reveals this to be the second reissue of a gentle psychedelic album from 1970 by a Topanga Canyon dental hygienist/folkie. In an interview with Andy Beta she says she was depressed when she heard the album because the sound compression got rid of the highs and lows and made it sound dead. Don't know if that was rectified in the reissue (the writeup on her MySpace implies that it is but isn't altogether clear on the subject.) My Web browser is being a pain about loading the songs from her MySpace, so I haven't listened yet.
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 12 January 2009 02:30 (seventeen years ago)
Nice to know Edd's alive and well (and also that he voted for the same two Johnsons that I did!)
George, you are probably right about Savoy Brown and/or Ten Years After belonging on that Spin boogie-rock list. What can I say? Limiting those Essentials things to eight albums is tough. And the Groundhogs are such an entity unto themselves that I wanted to include them. (Anyway, you should cut me a break despite my neglect, since I finally got around to listening obsessively this week to that pub-rocky Big Balls And The Great White Idiot CD-R you sent me last year. It was definitely worth drinking a few beers to.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 12 January 2009 03:36 (seventeen years ago)
Edd's been real busy, for inst writing notes for a couple of worthy Caroline Peyton reissues. He turned me on to Thank You Friend, which I would have listed, but not quite country enough even for my ballot (I don't go afield on purpose, just slim pickins in mainstream--the flashing rise and mebbe peak of Chicks! Keith! Wilson! Big & Rich! Lambert! Etc!-seems like a dream now). Also turned me on to that Chuck Prophet, which almost seemed a little too VU Loaded for country, but too good for the list to resist. I turned him on to der Perhacs, and yeah its sonics are much improved, track list much lengthened, and she writes a lot of pleased, icky-positive notes, almost the whole thing is is icky-positive, with her proudly genteel folkie voice very centerstage (you can tell she thinks she's the sultry cosmic handmaiden). I do like a couple tracks not so voice-centric, but guess that's why they're outtakes.
― dow, Monday, 12 January 2009 04:07 (seventeen years ago)
(Although he and Peyton and everybody else whose opinion I'm aware of loves it.)
― dow, Monday, 12 January 2009 04:10 (seventeen years ago)
Marty update!"THE MARTY STUART SHOW" CONTINUES TO CELEBRATE TRADITIONAL COUNTRY MUSIC IN 2009 NASHVILLE, TENN - Jan. 12, 2009 - Country music icon Marty Stuart continues to pay tribute to traditional music this year as he beginstaping TheMarty Stuart Show with episodes airing every Saturday at 8pm on RFD-TV. Performers set to appear include John Rich, DierksBentley, Gretchen Wilson, The SteelDrivers, Mel Tillis, Buck Trent,The Oak Ridge Boys, Chris Scruggs and Chuck Mead, DelMcCoury, ConnieSmith and The Sundowners, Wanda Jackson, Duane Eddy, Kathy Mattea,Quebe Sisters and more. "I love this show," said Stuart. "It's everything that country music was designed to be and it is such a joy to be a part of. As Isuspected, thereis a world of people out there waiting on this kind of entertainment and the response has been off the charts."
Stuart's other ventures include his renowned private country music memorabiliacollection entitled "Sparkle and Twang: Marty Stuart's AmericanOdyssey" on display at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland, Ohio through March 1, his recently-released second photography book titledCountryMusic: The Masters, and his weekly XM Radio show titled "Marty Stuart's American Odyssey" that explores music unique to the United States. To watch clips from the show, visit www.youtube.com/user/MartyStuartVideos.
― dow, Monday, 12 January 2009 22:05 (seventeen years ago)
Surprisingly good: Connor Christian & Southern Gothic, 90 Proof Lullabies -- with that title and band name I was expecting drab alt-country, but it's got hooks and he's got a radio-friendly (not necessarily "great" but certainly not indie) voice. Southern Gothic is a pretty hot band, nothing fancy but some sting in 'em nonetheless. Bad idea to cover "One Toke Over the Line" (always a snooze to me) but forgiven for good songs like "Sunday Suit" and "Let Ya Slide."
― Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 15 January 2009 16:12 (seventeen years ago)
Lots of discussion of the rural/country end of late '70s German schlager pop in the past couple days here:
I Have Never Heard Entire Albums By These Bands Who Have Excellent Songs On Late '70s/Early '80s European K-Tel-Style Compilations
For instance, posted by me this morning:
Super 20 Hitparade (Ariola West Germany, 1977)
WENCKE MYHRE "Lass Mein Knie, Joe" (Deutsch cover of Bonnie Tyler's great "It's a Heartache," not sung in a ravished Rod Stewart-like voice but still good. Pretty sure I liked a 45 by Wencke on that Metal Mike thread. And pre-heart-eclipse years of Bonnie Tyler herself are another topic for future research. She was from Wales; probably in the Abba-country ballpark.)ROLAND KAISER "Sieben Fasser Wein" (oompah fur bier trinken) BENNY "Skateboard" (Awesome. Seemingly takes its "ooh-ah-ah" hook from David Seville's "Witch Doctor," one of my favorite songs of my grade school years, which as far as I know has never influenced any other music in the half century since its existence. Also, this is a song about skateboards!)MARTIN MANN "Strohblumen" (Catchy guitared and whistled country-pop tune)GUNTER GABRIEL "Komm Charly Fang Mich Charly" (Dark-melodied talk-rhythm country with girlie-girl backup singing; possible Johnny Cash influence?)ROBERTO BLANCO "Wer Trinkt Schon Gern Den Wein Allein" (another ale-hoister for the Hofbrauhaus, as its title makes clear, but this one with Mexican-music-like "ay yi yi" interjections, especially interesting given Blanco's possibly Spanish surname and the fact that, in his picture, he seems to be a black man. Which doesn't add up to Mexican, obviously, but what the hell do Germans know? Also makes me wonder about the connection between German music and regional Mexican music, which is also frequently based on polka rhythms, and has its own internal urban pop-vs.-rural trad culture division.)
All in all, probably the most "country" Schlager comp I've heard. There's also a German cover of Kenny Rogers's "Lucille" by MICHAEL HOLM, plus two more songs that seem to be trying to combine Latin or Caribbean rhythms with German ones -- one by LENA VALATIS that starts out quasi-Latin, goes oompah, then comes back, and one actually called "Tanze Samba Mit Mir (Liebelei)" by REX GILDO. Maybe there was a Latin fad in Germany then or something.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 15 January 2009 16:31 (seventeen years ago)
Also, if anybody's interested, I got in a cranky pissing contest about current country with the 9513 blog guy in the comments section here last Friday:
http://idolator.com/5127490/the-9513-works-hard-to-prove-country-music-still-has-a-pulse
― xhuxk, Thursday, 15 January 2009 16:35 (seventeen years ago)
Limiting those Essentials things to eight albums is tough. And the Groundhogs are such an entity unto themselves that I wanted to include them.
Granted. Next time suggest to design they limit the pic/art to less rather than hog a third to half of the space on the page. Anyway, the James Road comp is an oddball. I liked it but it's definitely from the less traveled part of the Groundhogs catalog -- the time after McPhee had broken up the original band, then found out he couldn't draw as much under his own name, and brought back the name and concept for a more mannered and traditional sound. Of all Groundhogs material, it's probably the most rustic.
― Gorge, Thursday, 15 January 2009 21:42 (seventeen years ago)
Nashville Scene poll results are up:
http://www.nashvillescene.com/2009-01-15/news/the-ninth-annual-nashville-scene-country-music-critics-poll-jamey-johnson-captured-the-critics-taylor-swift-topped-the-charts-and-sugarland-conquered-them-both/
"Never before has a newcomer dominated the Country Music Critics Poll the way Jamey Johnson has this year's edition."
― erasingclouds, Friday, 16 January 2009 12:26 (seventeen years ago)
Here's the actual results, they've got some funny link issues going on:
http://www.nashvillescene.com/2009-01-15/news/the-ninth-annual-nashville-scene-country-music-critics-poll-the-results/
Albums1. Jamey Johnson: That Lonesome Song (Mercury)2. Hayes Carll: Trouble in Mind (Lost Highway) 3. Lee Ann Womack: Call Me Crazy (MCA Nashville)4. Sugarland: Love on the Inside (Mercury) 5. Patty Loveless: Sleepless Nights (Saguaro Road) 26. Lucinda Williams: Little Honey (Lost Highway) 7. Taylor Swift: Fearless (Big Machine) 8. George Strait: Troubadour (MCA Nashville)9. Alan Jackson: Good Time (Arista Nashville) 10. Kathy Mattea: Coal (Captain Potato) 11. Rodney Crowell: Sex & Gasoline (Work Song/Yep Roc) 12. Kasey Chambers & Shane Nicholson: Rattlin' Bones (Sugar Hill) 13. Brad Paisley: Play: The Guitar Album (Arista Nashville) 14. The SteelDrivers: The SteelDrivers (Rounder)15. Randy Travis: Around the Bend (Warner Bros.)16. James McMurtry: Just Us Kids (Lightning Rod)17. Emmylou Harris: All I Intended To Be (Nonesuch)18. Dolly Parton: Backwoods Barbie (Dolly)19. Ashton Shepherd: Sounds So Good (MCA Nashville)20. Charlie Haden Family & Friends: Rambling Boy (Decca)21. Willie Nelson: Moment of Forever (Lost Highway)22. Glen Campbell: Meet Glen Campbell (Capitol)23. Shelby Lynne: Just a Little Lovin' (Lost Highway)24. Willie Nelson & Wynton Marsalis: Two Men With the Blues (Blue Note)25. Carlene Carter: Stronger (Yep Roc)26. The Drive-By Truckers: Brighter Than Creation's Dark (New West)27. Mudcrutch: Mudcrutch (Reprise)28. Darius Rucker: Learn to Live (Capitol Nashville)29. Robert Plant/Alison Krauss: Raising Sand (Rounder)30. Justin Townes Earle: The Good Life (Bloodshot)
Singles1. Jamey Johnson: "In Color"2. Lee Ann Womack: "Last Call"3. Miranda Lambert: "Gunpowder and Lead"4. Hayes Carll: "She Left Me for Jesus"5. George Strait: "Troubadour"6. Trisha Yearwood: "This is Me You're Talking To"7. Carrie Underwood: "Just a Dream"8. Darius Rucker: "Don't Think I Don't Think About It"9. Ashton Shepherd: "Sounds So Good"10. Randy Travis: "Dig Two Graves"11. Trace Adkins: "You're Gonna Miss This"12. Kid Rock: "All Summer Long"13. James Otto: "Just Started Loving You"14. The SteelDrivers: "Blue Side of the Mountain"15. Little Big Town: "Fine Line"
Reissues1. Hank Williams: The Unreleased Recordings (Time-Life)2. Johnny Cash: At Folsom Prison: Legacy Edition (Legacy/Columbia)3. Willie Nelson: One Hell of a Ride (Legacy)4. Roy Orbison: The Soul of Rock and Roll (Monument/Orbison/Legacy)5. Bob Dylan: Tell Tale Signs (Columbia/Legacy)6. Toby Keith: 35 Biggest Hits (Show Dog)7. Reba McEntire: 50 Greatest Hits (MCA Nashville)8. Ernest V. Stoneman: Ernest V. Stoneman: The Unsung Father of Country Music 1925-1934 (5 String)9. George Jones: Burn Your Playhouse Down: The Unreleased Duets (Bandit)10. Various artists: More Dirty Laundry: The Soul of Black Country (Trikont)
Male Vocalists:1. Jamey Johnson2. Alan Jackson3. Brad Paisley4. George Strait5. Randy Travis6. Trace Adkins7. Hayes Carll8. Keith Urban9. Willie Nelson10. Toby Keith
Female Vocalists:1. Lee Ann Womack2. Patty Loveless3. Miranda Lambert4. Alison Krauss5. Trisha Yearwood6. Taylor Swift7. Emmylou Harris8. Jennifer Nettles9. Kathy Mattea10. Lucinda Williams
Live Acts:1. Robert Plant/Alison Krauss2. Brad Paisley3. Miranda Lambert4. Sugarland5. Keith Urban6. Kenny Chesney7. Lyle Lovett8. Willie Nelson9. Cherryholmes10. Little Big Town
Duos and Groups:1. Sugarland2. Robert Plant/Alison Krauss3. The SteelDrivers4. Little Big Town5. Kasey Chambers & Shane Nicholson6. Willie Nelson & Wynton Marsalis7. Lady Antebellum8. Montgomery Gentry9. Dailey & Vincent10. Joey & Rory
Songwriters:1. Jamey Johnson2. Hayes Carll3. Rodney Crowell4. James McMurtry5. Brad Paisley6. Taylor Swift7. Dolly Parton8. Bruce Robison9. Miranda Lambert10. Alan Jackson
New Acts:1. Ashton Shepherd2. Lady Antebellum3. The SteelDrivers4. Jamey Johnson5. Darius Rucker6. The Zac Brown Band7. Justin Townes Earle8. Hayes Carll9. Randy Houser10. Joey & Rory
Artists of the Year:1. Jamey Johnson2. Sugarland3. Robert Plant/Alison Krauss4. Brad Paisley<5. Alan Jackson6. Taylor Swift7. Lee Ann Womack8. George Strait9. Miranda Lambert10. Kenny Chesney
― erasingclouds, Friday, 16 January 2009 12:28 (seventeen years ago)
Actually think the comments this year are generally pretty good (and the results aren't bad either -- has commercial Nashville stuff ever done so well in that poll? I guess 9513 is alt-country's last gasp.)
Surprised to see Ashton's "Sounds So Good" score on the singles list, rather than "Takin' Off This Pain." Was really under the impression that the latter was her signature song; am I wrong, or do people just have short memories? Figured her album would do better, to (though I didn't vote for it.)
What did Deep Purple do at CMA Awards? (Maybe some band started playing "Smoke On The Water" as an intro or something? First I've heard of that.)
Ernest V. Stoneman: The Unsung Father of Country Music 1925-1934 (5 String) sounds cool! I'd never heard of that reissue before. Really like my old thrift-store vinyl copy of Ernest V. Stoneman and His Dixie Mounataineers 1927-1928 (on Historical), and compilation tracks I've heard.
Also, what do the SteelDrivers sound like -- bluegrass, Southern rock, what? Never heard them.
Still not getting what people hear in that Darius Rucker song. (I know, he's a black guy, which is wonderful, but I swear I hear more soul music in Toby Keith. I may have heard more in Hootie and the Blowfish, too, to be honest. Didn't hate the Rucker album, though; it was pleasant, and he's a competent enough singer. If it actually had an interesting song or two, it might not even have bored me.)
Joke of the poll: Mudcrutch.
― xhuxk, Friday, 16 January 2009 15:50 (seventeen years ago)
Btw, also from that reissue list, not as good as it sounds (I had hopes, which were dashed): George Jones: Burn Your Playhouse Down: The Unreleased Duets (Bandit)
― xhuxk, Friday, 16 January 2009 16:03 (seventeen years ago)
From a different list universe, a email Don forwarded me the other day:
Club (Nashville, TN - Jan. 14, 2009) Marco Club Connection has announced its list of the ten most requested and played country dance club songs of 2008.
For the fifth consecutive year, a panel of more than 215 nightclubs and dance instructors throughout the country were surveyed during the last four weeks of 2008 to compile the data.
#1 - Alan Jackson "Good Time" - Jackson's G-O-O-D T-I-M-E was the runaway favorite for 2008, garnering up to three spins a night during the peak of the song's popularity in the summer last year. #2 - The Zac Brown Band "Chicken Fried" - Interest in this song grew from its initial support in the Southern clubs and spread nationwide within weeks of its release.#3 - Kid Rock "All Summer Long" - This mash-up of Warren Zevon's "Werewolves of London" and Lynyrd Skynyrd's "Sweet Home Alabama" was an instant success on country dance floors. #4 - Matt Stillwell "Shine" - Stillwell's debut single has remained on club playlists for more than six months as interest in this newcomer continues to grow.#5 - Toby Keith "She's a Hottie" - Clubs were ecstatic to have a new up-tempo Toby Keith song last spring. The success of this single reserved Keith a spot in the Top Ten Country Dance Songs for the fifth year in a row.#6 - Lady Antebellum "Love Don't Live Here" - This fresh new act exploded on the dance club scene last February with their unique fusion of country and rock.#7 - Sugarland "All I Wanna Do" - Jennifer Nettles' catchy vocal hook and pop appeal made this song destined for success in the clubs.#8 - James Otto "Just Got Started Lovin' You" - Otto struck a chord in club patrons across the country with this soulful breakout hit.#9 - Adam Gregory "Crazy Days" - Gregory's dance remix of his first U.S. single, "Crazy Days," was used in clubs for a classic line dance called "walk the line." #10 - Craig Morgan "International Harvester" - Morgan chugged into the #10 spot with this heartland hit.
So who are Matt Stillwell and Adam Gregory? And does "International Harvester" have a "tractor dance" that goes with it? That'd be cool, if it does.
― xhuxk, Friday, 16 January 2009 16:07 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, Brad Paisley and Keith Urban threw part of "Smoke on the Water" into their "Start a Band" thing at the start of the show. Part of "Layla" too I think.
― erasingclouds, Friday, 16 January 2009 16:10 (seventeen years ago)
Pat Green "What I'm For" title track...reminds me a lot of Alabama's "40 Hour Week (For a Livin')"
Bizarrely, another song it's been reminding me of is "Manifesto" by Roxy Music ("I am for a life around the corner/That takes you by surprise...I am for a life at time by numbers/Blastin' fast and low"), but a way mushier version -- like, if Dan Fogelberg covered it or something. Album is hitting me as mooshier in general, in fact. Definitely has some okay Mellencampy parts here and there, though.
One upcoming album I've been liking more, for what it's worth, is The Man of Somebody's Dreams, a tribute to the Hacienda Brothers' late Chris Gaffney due in March on Yep Roc, with renditions of his songs by lots of notable names: Joe Ely, Boz Scaggs, Los Lobos, Dave Alvin, James McMurtry, Freddie Fender (recorded a few years ago I assume), Alejandro Escovedo, John Doe, etc. So far, I prefer it to any of the Haciendas' albums I've heard, though I'm not sure which tracks are my favorites yet. On first couple listens, oddly, one that jumped out at me was "Get Off My Back Lucy" done by the Iguanas, who I've paid no attention to at all before.
― xhuxk, Friday, 16 January 2009 22:11 (seventeen years ago)
You know, 74 voters isn't a lot for a national poll, so some of the lower-rated results might not be all that meaningful (there were 41 voters in the Poptimists poll, and two high votes for "Duri Duri" were enough to get it into the top twenty).
Geoff's not being altogether stupid when he's saying that Taylor isn't country, since what he means by "country" is pretty ancient (context must be rural, neck must be red or collar blue, or at least you must be speaking on behalf of those collars or necks7), but he's still very wrong, and you have to decide not to count Tim McGraw, Deana Carter, the Dixie Chicks, Jamie O'Neal, Garth Brooks, and scads of others that you guys could probably list more readily than I could. Taylor's eighteen and she's already done two retrospective songs about what it was like to be a teenager, "Tim McGraw" being the fiftieth or five hundredth variation on Deana Carter's "Strawberry Wine" (and McGraw himself had sung a couple of those variants, "Red Ragtop" and "Something Like That"). And teen heartbreak in country wasn't exactly unknown to Skeeter Davis and Brenda Lee way back when. I doubt that Taylor'd be scoring so high on the country charts if she was getting not only the teen girls but also the suburban housewives and the small-town, divorced, blue-collar wastrels who Geoff thinks need country as their very own genre and whose experience of love I'd wager isn't too far from Taylor's, actually. In fact, the difference between Jamey and Taylor may have less to do with a difference in experience than with Jamey writing more of the behavior and the outer details in order to evoke what's going on inside while Taylor writes more of the emotions and inner monologue. In other words, he's the strong silent type on a weep, while she's, you know, a girl. But it's not like Jamey doesn't do the inside and Taylor doesn't do the outer, and "I start a fight because I need to feel something" is a line that could have come from either.
I think that country is getting more singer-songwriterly in its lyrics, and this is hardly strange.
My good friend Leslie says that I'm just being Miley is a huge George Strait fan who travels down to New Mexico or wherever she can to hear Strait in concert, and she saw Taylor Swift opening for Strait a couple of years ago and has become a Taylor Swift fan too - she's a structural engineer and her boyfriend is a rugged man's man who's lived something of a Jamey Johnson life and I don't think it has occurred to her to think that Strait and Swift don't belong in the same genre. She's from the Michigan 'burbs and now lives in the a working-class 'burb north of Denver, but she's in business for herself, so I don't know whether or not she counts as the stereotypical country fan, but just who do we think listens to and buys the stuff? The 'burbs and the cities are where people live, and the 'burbs are where the consumers of country live, by and large.
― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:50 (seventeen years ago)
I doubt that Taylor'd be scoring so high on the country charts if she was getting not only the teen girls but also the suburban housewives and the small-town, divorced, blue-collar wastrels who Geoff thinks need country as their very own genre and whose experience of love I'd wager isn't too far from Taylor's, actually.
Sentence is long and complex and I think I left out a "not" or something: I doubt that Taylor'd be scoring so high on the country charts if she wasn't getting not only the teen girls but also the suburban housewives and the small-town, divorced, blue-collar wastrels etc.
― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:53 (seventeen years ago)
And the Scene just has its head up its ass when it runs a little chart that shows that Miranda Lambert and Jamey Johnson got critical but not commercial success.
(But they're like this every year.)
― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 18 January 2009 06:12 (seventeen years ago)
Hadn't realized that the Raconteurs did a version of "Old Enough" with Ashley Monroe and Ricky Scaggs. I'm still frustrated that no Ashley Monroe album was ever released.
― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 18 January 2009 07:25 (seventeen years ago)
Stephen Deusner comparing Jessica Lea Mayfield to Taylor Swift inspired me to go to Mayfield's MySpace, where her album is streamed. I'm four tracks in and don't know if I'll stick much longer. I don't hate it, but she's got a Lucinda Williams drawl-of-tragedy voice recorded in a Mazzy Starr clinical-depression soundscape, and my eyelids and earlobes are drooping.
― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 18 January 2009 07:43 (seventeen years ago)
and you have to decide not to count Tim McGraw, Deana Carter, the Dixie Chicks, Jamie O'Neal, Garth Brooks, and scads of others that you guys could probably list more readily than I could
I mean Geoff has to decide not to count these people in order to make his argument, which means he's discounting a whole hunk of trends in country since, oh, you all can tell me better but I'd say since 1954, if not 1914.
― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 18 January 2009 16:59 (seventeen years ago)
Haven't looked at Reynolds' post (yet?) owing to my getting ever-more-irritated at his tendency to project ideas onto people that they don't actually hold, but as for what Xhuxk said about having more-and-more reservations about the albums on his list as he goes further down, my reservations about the albums on my list start with the album I listed at number one (Danity Kane Welcome To The Dollhouse). There are rarely good albums that I don't have reservations about, given that most good albums (and most mediocre albums and most bad albums) are made by people with sensibilities very different from mine. Also, I love some albums lower on my list more than I love the Danity Kane (Scooter's Jumping All Over The World and CSS's Donkey, for instance), since I took the poll to be about what albums I thought were best, not what albums I loved the most. "Best" and "love" are different concepts.
― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 18 January 2009 17:09 (seventeen years ago)
xp Yeah, and this whole platitudinous idea that country is suddenly being listened to by suburban moms (see also my debate with that 9513 fellow) is really specious, given that the U.S. population has drifting toward suburbia ever since the end of World War II if not earlier, and the fact that country has been incorporating suburban-style pop just as long. How long has it been since, say, farming was the dominant subject of country songs? (Was it ever? If anything, Hank Williams and Jimmie Rodgers sang more about moving on to new places, as I recall.)
Also, I'd be surprised if, say, Lucinda Williams's audience doesn't lean at least as much toward so-called soccer moms as Faith Hill's audience does.
A possibly dire prediction for '09 country, from Ken Tucker (the Billboard one) in Billboard's Best Bets issue, which came out Friday: "With fewer opportunities at radio due to cutbacks on the on-air and programming side, country music, which relies heavily on radio for exposure, will not produce a new breakthrough act -- one that sells more than 300,000 units, for the sake of argument. Already spread thin, programmers will have less time to listen to new music, resulting in safer choices. And with more time slots being syndicated, listeners will hear more recent chart-toppers and greatest-hits standards on their local stations."
The issue does mention a new Tim McGraw album due out later this year, though, with possible collaborations from Chris Brown and T-Pain. That could be interesting.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 18 January 2009 17:11 (seventeen years ago)
Btw, if it sounds like I'm setting up a strawman (or straw-woman) by arguing with claims about soccer moms, it's because those claims don't come from Geoffrey Himes but from Jim Malec at 9513. Agree with Frank, though, that Himes's implication that Taylor Swift's audience is all suburban girls and no blue-collar divorcee's is quite a leap of faith. You don't do Taylor Swift sales numbers from just teenage girls, especially not these days.
Also, still don't get Himes's identification of Lee Ann Womack as primarily a traditional artist, "clearly most at home in the hard-country milieu that her East Texas DJ daddy raised her in," who has simply made occasional popwise detours now and then. Still don't see how anybody who ever heard her first two, clearly crossovery, albums can make that assertion without being completely willful or amnesiac about it. (And I still don't understand how her last couple sound all that honky-tonky, either.)
Anyway, beyond all that, my basic understanding is that "country music" has been a commercial marketing concept pretty much since the beginning -- at least back to early '20s Opry star Vernon Dalhart, the slumming opera singer whose 78 of "Wreck of the Old 97" supposedly sold 6 million copies. As for since then, here are David Cantwell and Bill Friskics-Warren in Heartaches By The Number: Country's 500 Greatest Singles: "As much as any form of popular music, country tends to its fences. The genre is constantly building and shoring them up, mending and diverting them, and there are always those fans quick to declare this new record or that new sound to far afield, 'not country.' Even so, those criticisms have rarely, if ever, stopped most country fans from eventually warming to those 'not country' styles, whether in the form of Jimmie Rodgers recording with Louis Armstrong, a Tin Pan Alley ballad from Gene Autry, the dappled variations of producer Owen Bradley worked on the Nashville Sound, or down-home equivalents of Motown and Philly Soul that auteur Billy Sherrill crafted in the countrypolitan area." Why Taylor Swift would not fit into this tradition is something I just don't get.
Also, I just checked: Hard Times Come Again No More: Early American Rural Songs of Hard Times and Hardships: Classic Recordings of the 1920s and 30s (a Yazoo compilation I've been listening to lately) does contain a handful of songs about farming on it (usually sharecropping on tenant farms and owing your soul to the company store) -- "Down On Penny's Farm," "Price Of Cotton Blues," "Got The Farm Land Blues," "Boll Weevil," etc. But even on that album, they're not in the majority. And on '20s/'30s country compilations I've got that are less explicitly geared toward Great Depression songs (the Charlie Poole box set for instance), I'm barely finding farming songs at all, for what that's worth.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 18 January 2009 19:09 (seventeen years ago)
re: Soccer Moms
I've heard this diss on radio country before (it's certainly not original to Jim Malec) and it does have some grounding--programmers targeting suburban/exurban listeners (not just women) who live outside the South, playing songs about little kids/how the glow you get from seeing your kid smile is worth all the crap you have to put up with at work. But Country has long been the format that acknowledged that people's lives tend to stretch past the age of 25 and that they end up having families and illnesses--so it's not all that strange that adults in the suburbs might respond to it.
― President Keyes, Sunday, 18 January 2009 19:47 (seventeen years ago)
It's also (and this was my point) not remotely new that adults in the suburbs might respond to it, since adults in the suburbs have been responding to country music's grown-up themes as long as any of us (and Milec and Himes too, I'm sure) have been alive.
Beyond suburbia and into urban bohemia, I have been trying to listen to the upcoming album by rustic-sounding Oakland indie band Winfred E. Eye. and I've been consistently liking one song -- "Lil Peck," apparently about moving away from your parents' home and drinking a lot. Or something like that. (Actually, the press release claims it's a family reunion.) But the rest of the album so far has been making me as sleepy as the band appears to be.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 18 January 2009 20:45 (seventeen years ago)
HEY XHUXX: if'n your fanger ain't broke kindly consult my posts about the Steeldrivers on RC 2008, if you sincerely xpost wonder that is (also can burn em for you)
― dow, Sunday, 18 January 2009 23:34 (seventeen years ago)
Also, if you sincerely wonder about polkas in Tex-Mex music kindly consult that list you posted and the CDs from it you prob have of Tex-Kraut and Tex-Czech (whole circuits and generations of that stuff, incl the inevitable should we Youth use these samples or not and how etc) and the soundtrack of Schultze Gets The Blues we both top-rated last year [wonder if that's on DVD playable Over Here?)Germans didn't stop with the border, including the ones invited/recruited by the Emperor before the Mexican Revolution, and others uninvited.
― dow, Sunday, 18 January 2009 23:41 (seventeen years ago)
Will definitely go back and check those Steeldrivers posts, Don; should have paid more attention the frist time, obviously. But as for the Kraut/Mex connection, I wasn't so much talking about the centuries-old history, which I'm fairly familiar with and, as you say, I've even written about (Germans bringing accordions and polkas to Texas etc) as uncanny but seemingly coincidental parallels between recent German and Mexican pop. (It's the recent German stuff I know very little about. For instance: though countryish schlager songs are all over those '70s comps that I write about on that other thread, is such music still being made now?)
― xhuxk, Monday, 19 January 2009 00:05 (seventeen years ago)
(Well, I don't doubt it's still being made on some level. But is it still being widely recorded, and reaching any kind of significant audience? Did it ever wind up incorporating country from later than the Kenny Rogers era? Or did its perfomers and audience all pass their sell-by date years ago?)
Also interested in possible influences in the other direction: Mexican pop influencing the German kind.
― xhuxk, Monday, 19 January 2009 00:27 (seventeen years ago)
Don on the Steeldrivers, from Rolling Country '08:
the Steeldrivers, anybody heard their album? Some pretty good (though brief) live sets on radio, but the lead Steeldriver guy's voice is so thick and meaty, like if Hood had Cooley's lungs, and they don't seem to go in for lengthy solos--all in all, I don't see how they fit into bluegrass, but apparently they do. (Sort of like a rougher Chatham County Line, who are also more about the songs than picking)
(mines and mountains, but really more of a stringband than bluegrass, though they're new stars on the circuit): self-titled debut of the Steeldrivers--sort of like if Seger were to make an album backed by the Del McCoury Band, like Earle did--only even less trad(making wise use of P.Domain for copyrights, however) yet non'trad in in a subtle enough way(not counting the nongrass vocals, which aren't subtle, just unaffected)yet not newgrass ect (re today's country as retro rock, something like "Heaven Sent" evokes one of Dickie Betts' higher-flying solos, but it doesn't even have electric instruments, much less solos--the whole album is pretty much unplugged, but moves right along, unhurriedly, yet 10 songs in 36 minutes )Gets better as it goes along, too. The second half kicks in quicer than the first. It's on Rounder
I should probably check them out.
― xhuxk, Monday, 19 January 2009 01:26 (seventeen years ago)
Indeedio, although we hear a lotta stuff diferrently, so I hope you're not too disappointed (think you'll like *some* of it, though may have to grow on you). Yes, as I meant to indicate above, there are Tex-Deutsch or and Tex-Czech bands of diff generations, keeping a circuit alive out West, or so I've read (somewhere on the Web). Don't know about in Germany, but probably, though the Amerikan quality might well be a big part of its appeal by now ( there are German Civil War re-enactors and pilgrims to the South, I've met them, and they were big fans of Karl May, the Zane Grey of Germany[wanna say Tom but I think it's Karl]. These guys were on their way to to meet some of their countrymen by the Alamo)
― dow, Monday, 19 January 2009 01:38 (seventeen years ago)
Hadn't realized that the Raconteurs did a version of "Old Enough" with Ashley Monroe and Ricky Scaggs.
Happened to see a video of this version on CMT. Very nice.
― that's not my post, Monday, 19 January 2009 03:23 (seventeen years ago)
x-post I recently heard an interview with Trent Willmon where he said that the guy from the Steeldrivers is the best singer in Nashville.
― President Keyes, Monday, 19 January 2009 03:32 (seventeen years ago)
I agree. In particular I've read many references to "Last Call" being "traditional", which I don't understand, and finally decided it only comes off that way, if it does, because she's singing about being in a bar (though she's not the one in the bar, and the song sounds more like soft-pop you'd be listening to at home than the stereotypical saloon music). There's songs on the album where I understand the 'traditional notion' a little bit more, but only a couple - "Solitary Thinking" maybe, or "King of Broken Hearts", but even on these it's an arguable thing. And not an argument worth having, except that writers do keep describing her music as traditional...
Oh, and on that note of country musicians pulling in other genres...this morning on Philly's country radio station I heard John Rich do an interview and play songs off his new CD. The song I heard was one he described as Hank Williams meets Frank Sinatra, a big-band thing about building a truck with a bar in it so you can drive yourself to drink, or something like that. I didnt get the chance to listen too closely, but I didnt hear much Hank in it, it was very silly, very lounge-singer-esque.
― erasingclouds, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 22:03 (seventeen years ago)
Frank on Poptimists, on that Winfred E. Eye album I mentioned a few posts up:
Winfred E. Eye Til I Prune: Just got it. On their first album they got a good effect by taking a dark bluesy growl and giving it dreamy drifting accompaniment. On this one they go for even more of the dreamy drift, and it's beautiful an' all but I haven't decided yet if the dreaminess is too much; maybe I'll decide it's just right and I'll stop holding against the album that it fits in with modern indie's uncommitted soundscaping. (The first album took several months to really penetrate.)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:06 (seventeen years ago)
Also, on the same thread (about good 2009 music so far), Frank mentioned that I mentioned three albums somewhere in this thread, and I answered him thusly:
I actually probably slightly prefer the Dierks Bentley (which has one great song, and a couple more I really like, amid lots of tolerable-or-better mere competence) to the Chuck Mead (which has pub-rock energy and often amusing songwriting with a good schooling in Chuck Berry and Nike Lowe but your usual merely adequate alt-country so-what of a voice; he's a BR-459 almunus, if that means anything to anybody -- it really doesn't mean that much to me, as I never paid much attention to BR-459) As for Megan Munroe, I like her album way more than those other two, but its first half seems to blow away its second half (which may well make her this year's Ashlee Simpson, who knows.)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:25 (seventeen years ago)
Some country-(ish) finishers in the Pazz & Jop poll:
27 Drive-By Truckers, Brighter Than Creation's DarkNew West Points: 304Mentions: 28 36 Alejandro Escovedo, Real AnimalBack Porch Points: 243Mentions: 23 42 Blitzen Trapper, FurrSub Pop Points: 219Mentions: 25 52 Lucinda Williams, Little HoneyLost Highway Points: 202Mentions: 22 56 Jamey Johnson, That Lonesome SongMercury Points: 170Mentions: 18 58 Taylor Swift, FearlessBig Machine Points: 167Mentions: 18 60 Hayes Carll, Trouble in MindLost Highway Points: 157Mentions: 17 61 James McMurtry, Just Us KidsLightning Rod Points: 15565 Kathleen Edwards, Asking for FlowersZoe Records Points: 147Mentions: 11 85 Arthur Russell, Love Is Overtaking MeAudika Points: 125Mentions: 11 92 Charlie Haden Family & Friends, Rambling BoyDecca Points: 114Mentions: 10 95 Jenny Lewis, Acid TongueWarner Brothers Points: 113Mentions: 14 103 Shelby Lynne, Just a Little Lovin'Lost Highway Points: 105Mentions: 13
― xhuxk, Thursday, 22 January 2009 00:29 (seventeen years ago)
Singles:
32 Hayes Carll, "She Left Me for Jesus"Lost Highway Mentions: 15 49 Taylor Swift, "Love Story"Big Machine Mentions: 11 68 Kid Rock, "All Summer Long"Atlantic Mentions: 8 73 Lee Ann Womack, "Last Call"Mercury Nashville Mentions: 8 76 Miley Cyrus, "See You Again"Hollywood Mentions: 8 77 Drive-By Truckers, "The Righteous Path"New West Mentions: 8 82 Jamey Johnson, "High Cost of Living" Mentions: 7
If the Voice had carried over the 3 votes that Frank says the Miley single had received last year, it would have finished higher.
If my favorite song of the year "High Cost of Living" had been an actual single, I would have voted for it, and it would have finished higher.
If the Voice website reflected ties (i.e., all singles receiving 8 votes finishing with the same placement) I would have, but they didn't.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 22 January 2009 00:48 (seventeen years ago)
Justin Farrar (who says he "limited releases to some vague notion of roots/rock and rock/folk/countryish stuff") posted a link to his ballot on the Pazz & Jop thread. Inasmuch as I know his writing, I think his tastes lean more to what I'd call art-country than alt-country. But the only one of these albums I heard was the one by Brooklyn's TK Webb, which hit me as a not especially exciting and mostly shapeless indie-blues-rock record with no beginning and ends to the songs but some occasionally noisy Crazy Horse guitar blur (and very intermittent Dylan mimicry in the vocals.) Anybody know anything about any other records on his list? (Pretty sure Don's mentioned Chatham County Line before, but I may be wrong):
http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/critics/2008/685882
― xhuxk, Thursday, 22 January 2009 01:10 (seventeen years ago)
So, according to both roughstock.net and Wikpedia (hadn't heard this anywhere else), the second single off of Jamey Johnson's album is, uh, "High Cost of Living." That's awesome (could wind up my single of the year for 2009), but also completely nuts and hilarious. Does anybody have mediabase access, to track whether any country stations actually play this monstrosity? (How long did it take pop stations to pick up on "Like A Rolling Stone" in 1965? But that one eventually went to #2, so who knows?)
http://www.roughstock.com/blog/jamey-johnson-high-cost-of-living
Just checked Billboard's Hot Country Song chart; it hasn't hit the Top 60 yet. (What did make the chart a couple weeks ago, incidentally, was apparently a remix of Rehab's modern-rock-radio hick-hop hit "The Bartender Song" with Hank Jr. on it. Never heard that, though, and I'm not sure I really want to.)
Still no "High Cost Of Living" promo vid on youtube either, as far as I can see. (Strategy obviously could be to attract non-country radio fans -- like, Triple A, maybe? Might happen, especially given all the year-end lists that Jamey scored on.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:31 (seventeen years ago)
Apparently it is being released next month as a single--so maybe in the '09 poll.
― President Keyes, Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:34 (seventeen years ago)
Whoops
― President Keyes, Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:35 (seventeen years ago)
Single release date Feb. 17 according to Jamey Johnson's myspace.
― President Keyes, Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:36 (seventeen years ago)
I'm back, after an extended period during which I worked on some bigger projects (liner notes for the forthcoming Caroline Peyton reissues of Mock Up and Intuition, out next Tuesday), took a vacation to visit Mayan ruins in peninsular Mexico and snorkel amid Cozumel reefs, and hung out in New Orleans' Bywater district. The shrimp half-loaf at Mandina's on Canal was just as good as ever and the shrimp remoulade was even better than before, you can eat that stuff just soaking up the sauce with the french bread they give you as a side. Met my sweetie's parents and hundreds of Extended Family on a trip to Brookhaven, Miss., a town where everyone has a grand piano and an opera score in their house (everyone except the domestic help, who dig mostly gospel). Turned 50 and I got a party, and meeting your true love at 49-and-holding is something else, so I'm here, happy, and trying not to get fat on said sweetie's excellent southern cookin'. Moved to Brentwood, south of Nashville, so far they've let me walk the streets as it were.
Anyway, I took a break for various reasons, not from writing, but kinda from thinking a lot about country music. Part of that was just doing the liners for Mock Up and Intuition, which took a lot of time, part of it was my life in general, and part was the feeling that country didn't matter as much to me in the year of Obama. I ended up listening to Jamey Johnson's record a good bit and I did a story on Jan Bell, who is one of the Good People. And wrote something on Holly Golightly for the Nash Scene, saw her and Lawyer Dave play here and they was quite relaxed, Holly never stopped smiling. Did some work for Those Darlins, who are going on to be pretty popular all over the country. I like them, love those girls, wish they sang some harmony, they do tend to stand up there sometimes and just sing the same notes.
Have been listening to Jason Isbell's new one. Music signifies more than the words but the stuff about the seductive bartender, she of the alto voice, and the mutterings of getting older and diminished expectations, are quite good in their way and the music really is detailed. Sounds like he been learning some new chords. I've also always liked the name, Gurf Morlix, but his new one is all about how he's losing his edge, only one great song, well, sort of great--one concerning all the time-wasting strategies a songwriter can employ instead of writing songs, wasting one's talent, being a general bum. I know what he means. Good to see y'all again.
― whisperineddhurt, Saturday, 24 January 2009 04:54 (seventeen years ago)
as for Chuck Mead's new one that Chuck mentions upthread, I listened to it once the day I got it, and remember noting something like "does well with readymade place-name songs" and my usual Stiff Records comparison. Seemed loose enough to me. As for Malo (Raol, not the old-time Latin rock band), I suppose I hear the Claudette Orbison Effect somewhat but as you can see from his beard and general air of ass-manliness on the cover, he has his fans because of the Voice, and it's a good one.
Curious about the Dailey and Vincent record. Live, they are reckless Christians and play off the tall/hair and short/bald comedy inherent in their act, and they, er, inhabit they idiom, I mean they're good. They gave me two intense, short, Capitalist Christian interviews last fall when I did a bluegrass roundup, I also praised Cadillac Sky's Gravity's Our Enemy back then and still think they do progressive 'grass real well indeed.
Interviewed Tony Rice for the now-defunct Knoxville Voice. Turns out he, like my Texas superhero Johnny Bush, had dysphonia, but Rice's was muscle-tension, while Bush (and Linda Thompson and actually a famous voice teacher [!], Marge Rivingston) had spasmodic. Rice said he was on stage in 1994 in Pennsylvania and the voice just went. Anyway, Rice seems to me the best of all those neo-grass guitar players, in that he's deeply influenced by jazz, uses space, and always appears to be thinking. Not that bluegrass ain't about chops and headspace just like jazz, but that it's a music of too MUCH flow and not enough, which is why the broken structures and relative indecision of the Cadillac Sky record appeals to me. Rice is in Krauss' DVD, A Hundred Miles or More.
I mentioned Those Darlins above and another all-girl band who does their shtick maybe as well or better is the Bridges, whom I caught opening for Matthew Sweet back around Xmas time. Clearly, the New Seekers or whoever (watched Steve Coogan in the movie of Tristam Shandy last night and his wife was playing Bach for an infant, and Coogan said, "I got the New Seekers and look how I turned out...") are such a big influence on today's neo-folk.
Got Chuck Mead's record here, Journeyman's Wager (suitably modest title) and now I remember liking "She Got the Ring" and "Albuquerque" the best, of course he's got to do "Old Brown Shoe" (while moving I found a picture I saved from the Memphis Commercial Appeal at Carl Perkins' funeral in Jackson, Tenn. with a ravaged-looking George Harrison commiserating with Jerry Lee Lewis at the funeral). Chuck's a nice guy, I run into him frequently and he's been writing with lotsa people these days, I hear.
this should be linked now to my e-mail address...
― eddhurt, Saturday, 24 January 2009 16:46 (seventeen years ago)
make that Raul Malo, of course. Also dig Chuck Mead's "Out on the Natchez Trace," that is an historic road as well as a road that takes you out of Nashville to the southwest and Mead's smart, that's a classic place around here for people who want to End It All or Start Over Discreetly to end up dead by the side of the road or out in the woods, although I never understood why more people don't jump into the Cumberland River here, there are several new pedestrian bridges.
Speaking of suicide, the new issue of the Oxford American is worth buying for the great shot of Gary Stewart (back page) scoping out reading matter in Elder's Bookstore on Elliston Place, 1978.
As for ND, Chuck, it's pretty much the same folks. I've done some reviewing for them--Nimrod Workman, Jim White, Linda Perhacs actually, Frank, and some other stuff--and what can you say, ND's end-of-year lists...well, look at mine, I liked Randy Newman's record even though there's something undeniably airless about the fucking thing even as I so, so admire his craft and all that, I mean I recently saw the Nashville production of Sweeney Todd and Randy Newman makes Sondheim look bads, plus Randy's always been interested in racism and nookie and so forth. His takes on New Orleans and his rueful tales of young girls he still don't understand, and his orchestrations, speak to me but now I'm officially old. At least one can age gracefully like Ross Johnson, who, I believe, speaks to the ages if anyone did last year.
― eddhurt, Saturday, 24 January 2009 16:57 (seventeen years ago)
"Out on the Natchez Trail," it should be, and Sondheim look bad not bads...actually the Angela Lansbery version of Sweeney Todd has its dissonant moments and like Newman Sondheim is interested in some extreme states of being, but whatever.
so what's the deal with Joey + Rory: they have their own restaurant or something...?
― eddhurt, Saturday, 24 January 2009 17:01 (seventeen years ago)
yay, edd's back!!!
― Ioannis, Saturday, 24 January 2009 17:02 (seventeen years ago)
also, if anyone wants this great Homer and Jethro comp my buddy Dave Duncan made, lemme know offline. they're great artistes and masters of comedy. easily as good as this Manilla Music band we caught on the Carnival Cruise ship; four short guys from Manilla dressed in Sgt. Pepper-era Beatles outfits playing Beatles tunes, just excellent, and Homer and Jethro do what I think is the greatest Beatles cover of all time, "I Want to Hold Your Hand," '64, plus "No Hair Sam" and you won't believe "Winchester Cathedral."
― eddhurt, Saturday, 24 January 2009 17:06 (seventeen years ago)
Welcome back, Edd!!! And wow, when you are back, you are back. Now the rest of us all have some catching up to do.
By the way, Edd was my "most similar voter" in Pazz & Jop, with a score of 3.93, whatever that means, seeing as we both voted for two albums by guys named Johnson. (Second-most similar to me was Corey Du Browa, who also voted for one Johnson and a Knux.)
My new favorite ballot (well, for right this second anyway) came from somebody I never heard of before named Bill Holmes, whose favorite single was "Dynamite," my favorite song on the Mother Truckers album, and who also voted for "Elsie," my favorite song on the Boss Martians album, both of which I'm just happy to see somebody else listened to (though Boss Martians did get at least one other singles vote, for a different song, apparently.) Bill Holmes also voted for a single by the Paul Collins Beat, who I had no idea existed anymore:
http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/critics/2008/685403
Anyway. I liked both the 3-song Those Darlins EP and 4-song (two of them the same) Those Darlins demo I heard last year (favorite song: probably "The Whole Darn Thing," which is about eating every part of a chicken), though not enough for them to make my top 150 album list (like both Mother Truckers and Boss Martians did). Had I expanded the list to 200, the EP probably would have made it (as would have the Trailer Choir and Big N Rich EPs from last year, though that's getting pretty marginal admittedly.) And I look forward to hearing a whole Darlins album.
Btw, the URL for my Rhapsody blog has mysteriously changed as they've overhauled that portion of the site, and the URL for my '07 lists with it. So here:
http://72.47.254.75/chuck-eddys-chuck-it-all-in/
http://blog.rhapsody.com/2008/12/chuck-eddys-best-albums-of-the-year-countdown-part-3-numbers-1---50.html
― xhuxk, Sunday, 25 January 2009 02:52 (seventeen years ago)
'08 lists, I meant. (Still writing '08 on my checks, too.)
Listening to the new Flatlanders album in the background now, and liking it more than I expected. Some fairly didactic songs about the bum economy and immigration, maybe, but those seem well-personalized and geographically pinpointed and the melodies and singing are frequently grabbing me. Noticed what sounded like a stinker of a Joe Ely song too (I assume that was him anyway), and other sections are blander than I wish, but I'll keep it on for now.
Liked the new album by some Brooklyn alt-country group called the Defibulators more than I thought I would, too -- energy and humor helps a lot. And the new album by the Greencards less than I thought I would (polite Duhks-style worldbeat delusions are boring me quicker this year, apparently), though one song at least had sub-Little Big Town (sub-sub-sub Fleetwood Mac) harmonies mixed into its bluegrass.
And yeah, I've been liking the city songs on that Chuck Mead album, which I should probably play more despite my reservations about his apparent lack of an interesting voice. Thought the more Rockpiley tracks were "She Got The Ring" and "I Wish It Was Friday," and he does wanderlust ("Albuquerque") and wistfulness ("A Long Time Ago") pretty well. "Up On Edge Hill" seems to have a good plot about the sort of folks who live up there, and "Out On The Natchez Trail" is a decent go-west song, and I like how "Gun Metal Gray" sound kind of like "Ode To Billie Joe."
Speaking of wanderlust and heading west, the big news in my life is that it increasingly looks like we'll be packing up and moving to Austin before springtime -- in fact, my Texas-born better half is down there as we speak, scouting out possible dwellings. So if anybody reading this knows anybody down there who I should alert of my impending arrival (especially but not only if they're the kind of person who loves helping unload lots of boxes of records off moving trucks), by all means email me.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 25 January 2009 03:23 (seventeen years ago)
What else? New Neko Case album coming out soon, apparently, and I've never remotely paid attention to her, and I'm thinking now that maybe I should, since I heard a song by her in Starbucks a couple months ago that I have to confess sounded way better than most of the other songs I hear in Starbucks, plus she comes off charming (not to mention cute) in this new cover story in Paste I just read in the bathroom. Even halfway considering subscribing to this magazine called Hobby Farms that she recommends: "Who likes to read about goats? I do! You know, the Caprine subfamily? Lowline cattle, anyone? Weeder geese? Guinea hens on tick patrol? Draft horse logging? That's what I'm talking about."
Interesting piece by my former Farmington, Michigan middle school classmate R.J. Smith in tomorrow's NY Times about the resurrection of King Records in Cincinnati: Another key to King’s success was its racial pragmatism. It’s probably a stretch to call Mr. Nathan a progressive, but he was colorblind in his pursuit of the widest possible audience. He didn’t just record both white and black acts; he had his ace R&B studio band playing on country records, and his country bands trying their hands at black pop hits, an almost unthinkable practice at the time.
The Stanley Brothers, for instance, did a version of Ballard’s “Finger Poppin’ Time,” and the African-American shouter Wynonie Harris covered the honky-tonk singer Hank Penny’s “Bloodshot Eyes.” It was a way of getting the most out of a hit, and perhaps it was Mr. Nathan’s stubborn nature to argue to those who told him blacks and whites would never like the same records how very wrong they were.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/25/arts/music/25smit.html?ref=arts
― xhuxk, Sunday, 25 January 2009 03:33 (seventeen years ago)
And oh yeah, speaking of the New Seekers (as Edd was earlier today, though I know basically nothing about them), here's something I posted on that German 45s Metal Mike Sent Me thread a few days ago:
Daliah Lavi "Wer Hat mein Lied So Zerstort, Ma?"/"Akkordeon" (Polydor West Germany, year unknown) Figured out the title was an Aryanization of "Look What They've Done To My Song, Ma" (always secretly loved that song ever since my secretly emo childhood, though for some reason I keep thinking it's by Melanie or Yvonne Elliman when really it's by the New Seekers) just by reading the sleeve; good for me! And long-haired pensive beauty Daliah schaglerizes it wunderbar; some dark Nico ice-queen cabaret stuff in there, neat. Also deduced that the B-side would somehow involve accordions, but didn't know it would start out like a cross between "Love is Blue" and, well, either "The Windmills Of Your Mind" or "As Tears Go By" I guess. Which is to say...dark! depressive! in the afternoon! yikes! And actually, the accordion is way back in the background, though it's there.
then later:
Daliah Lavi's New Seekers cover thankfully balances its ice-cold Nico schtick with warmer Al Jolson phrasing (if Al Jolson was German and rolled his r's), at least whenever she says "mama." And her accordion song has a palpable...wurlitzeriness? hurdy-gurdiness? caliopiopity? or something to its rhythm. None of which might come from the squeezebox (which doesn't do a whole lot til the song's end.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 25 January 2009 04:43 (seventeen years ago)
There's a also a nice Neko Case interview in the new Oxford American music issue (and while I enjoy reading it, am I the only one who thinks the types of Southern musicians they cover has become a tad predictable). Little of it is online btw.
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 25 January 2009 05:05 (seventeen years ago)
The New Seekers were an updated version of the kind of groups parodied in A Mighty Wind, except the NS were a hip, '70s version who covered (on the one LP I still own) both Roy Wood's "Tonight" and a Richard Thompson tune! And I think they did a Coke commercial, maybe the one that rips off Jobim's "Waters of March."
I didn't even participate in Himes' Scene poll this year. I guess I didn't even want to think about Taylor Swift, whom I interviewed late last year and whose actual music I find...what's the word? Nugatory? Evanescent? Her devotion to writing I admire and she has a way with words, but the music itself just evaporates, not to mention the "settings" which are so anonymous, lacking in character, as to be positively offensive. She's a case where I definitely think I could take it all better if she were to just play the damned things on just a guitar. But she obviously has an audience that goes beyond 14-year-old girls, and of course, I think Himes states the blindingly obvious when he starts talking about the "suburban" audience for country. That's been happening since Tom T. Hall sent up suburbia in "Harper Valley P.T.A." Who bought all those '80s country records?
There is, btw, a New Orleans version, with James Black on drums, of "Harper Valley" by a singer named Mary Jane Hooper, that is fucking amazing. The guitar player, George Davis I believe, does the best African-American impression of Nashville guitar you could conceive, and Black is always worth hearing no matter what the context.
― eddhurt, Sunday, 25 January 2009 17:26 (seventeen years ago)
Still writing about plenty of Euro-country (not to mention Eurodisco, schlager, glam-rock, and what not) over on that other wacky thread I started a couple weeks ago; here's the latest country-leaning tracks I talked about, but honestly, you folks should peruse the thread -- maybe even post on it. (It's getting kinda lonely over there these days.)
PEGGY MARCH "Oklahoma" (Real nice quasi-country sung in German -- so does that mean formerly "Little" Peggy wound up shooting for stardom there once her star faltered in the U.S., as somebody said above that Roger Whitaker did? Not that I know all that much about Peggy March to begin with, beyond her great 1963 #1 "I Will Follow Him" at 15 years old; looks like she had two other, much smaller Top 40 hits later that year, after which her career took a quick nosedive. Really, the main thing I know about her is that Richard Meltzer includes her in a genre called "march rock" in Aesthetics of Rock.)TRUCKSTOP "Die Frau Mit Dem Gurt" (Took me mere seconds of listening to this fast country talker to realize country-rock Canadians the Road Hammers did it as "Girl On A Billboard" on their album last year. But I don't think a "gurt" is a billboard. No idea what the original version is. Or who Truckstop are for that matter, but they sound sehr gut.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 26 January 2009 13:15 (seventeen years ago)
So man, this new Flatlanders album (due out late March) starts with a great great great song, possibly the best New Great Depression song anybody has managed yet; its ingenious idea is to flip-flop Woody Guthrie's Dust Bowl ballads, so a guy whose granddad headed out to California from Oklahoma after the crash of '29 is now heading back: "I lost my home when the deal went bust/To the so-called Security and Trust/I ran my life the way they said I should...," and the song's got the dank dusty wind-blown melody and singing to pull it off. "There's refugees from Mexico behind an abandoned Texaco," and they're the same as him. Title is "Homeland Refugee," writing credited to Ely/Hancock/Gilmore on the press bio, and I'm pretty sure that's Joe Ely singing, though I wouldn't bet my 401-K on it.
Problem is, for the most part, the album seems to go really flat and flimsy real quick after that. Never thought Hancock or Gilmore were anything in the way of vocalists, and to be honest it's been so long since I listened to them that I can't tell who's who without a scorecard (New West Records didn't send one). Which one's the guy with the halfway-to-Willie Nelson high voice? Anyway, I feel like there's some decent song in there somewhere that runs off a list of small southwesten cities, but I'm not sure which one it is. "Borderless Love" seemed promising, but comes off pretty heavy-handed to my ears: "There's no need for a wall," ba-dum-bum. "Just About Time," I think it is (also Ely I think) quotes "Brother Can You Spare A Dime" and has some Jew's harp bloiings in it, but still doesn't strike me as especially memorable. I dunno though; maybe more will sink in.
― xhuxk, Monday, 26 January 2009 15:07 (seventeen years ago)
Liked the new album by some Brooklyn alt-country group called the Defibulators more than I thought I would
Not nearly as much as I want to, though. They seem to be trying for the same kind of old-time barn dance craziness that the Woodbox Gang pulled off last year. But while they get an okay swerve going now and then (in "Honey You Had Me Fooled" for instance), and while (except when their girl singer goes straighter alt-country on occasion like in "Wandering Eye") they're not as prissy as say Hot Club Of Cowtown, they still don't come off half wild-haired insane or drunk enough, and they never even hint at the Woodboxers' punchlines or hooks or rhythm section with all those incidental gypsy extras tossed in. (Still, not bad for Brooklynites.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 26 January 2009 19:48 (seventeen years ago)
Tom Lane, "Country Gets The Pazz & Jop Shaft"
http://tomlanesblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/country-gets-pazz-and-jop-shaft.html
― xhuxk, Monday, 26 January 2009 20:38 (seventeen years ago)
(Lane contradicts himself all over the place in that short post -- does country get shafted every year, or doesn't it? -- and "a year that produced 2 of the year's best Country albums" is a pretty goofy phrase, but thought I'd post the link regardless.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 26 January 2009 20:44 (seventeen years ago)
Seven favorite songs on that Chris Gaffney tribute album on Yep Roc, in approximate order (not necessarily what I would have predicted):
1. Dave Alvin "Artesia"2. Tom Russell "If Daddy Don't Sing Danny Boy"3. Alejandro Escovedo "1968"4. James McMurtry "Fight (Tonight's The Night)"5. Chris Gaffney "Guitars Of My Dead Friends"6. The Iguanas "Get Off My Back Lucy"7. Joe Ely "Lift Your Leg"
Still wish Escovedo, McMurtry, and especially the totally blank Iguanas guy could convey more character with their singing, though. (Iguanas sort of make up for it with good Tex-Mex-organ bouncing and lyrics about a nagging wife.)
Dullest songs are sung (though actually not much sung at all) by Calexico, Robbie Fulks, Jim Lauderdale, John Doe, and -- hate to say it, but -- Dan Penn (not necessarily in that order).
― xhuxk, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:42 (seventeen years ago)
Not familiar with the Haciendas song Tom Russell covered and had to check it wasn’t one of his own, sounds so much like something he'd write. Haven’t been able to listen to the Calexico all the way through yet, which is not unusual but I can’t help loving the Freddy Fender. Tributes are so much better when you’ve never heard the songs before.
― flopearedmule, Monday, 26 January 2009 22:12 (seventeen years ago)
though countryish schlager songs are all over those '70s comps that I write about on that other thread, is such music still being made now?
Frank may have answered this on that "vintage country disco" thread last year, actually:
Texas Lightning's "No No Never" (Germany's voyage in 2006 to a strange land called Eurovision) is a country song that doesn't disguise its Europop heart.
So there may well be at least 30 years of the stuff (Country-and-Western-German, I've been calling it), which somebody should probably document someday.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 16:03 (seventeen years ago)
there are several country-identified critics missing from the Pazz & Jop ballots--folks like David Cantwell, Bill Friskics-Warren, et al., I don't believe either Barry Mazor or Jewly Hight have ballots either.
Holly Gleason had Lee Ann Womack as her #1 record, and also voted for Rodney Crowell, Allison Moorer, Kenny Chesney and Lady Antebellum. And J.D. Souther, whose record was touted as a master musician's flirtation with jazz in a country context but left me cold.
― eddhurt, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 22:28 (seventeen years ago)
I swear I never realized until last year that any critics had any use for J.D. Souther at all, but in the past few months his name has come up a few times (elsewhere on this board, too, I believe, plus I found out a record store guy I'm close friends with in Philly is a big fan.) Someday I'll listen to him.
Didn't Holly Gleason also vote for a Michael Stanley album? Yep, just checked ...Just Another Night, tenth-place on her list. That's pretty cool, though the one Stanley album I heard in the past couple years (can't recollect whether it was that one or not) was pretty bleh singer-songwriter fare, I thought; didn't rock like his old Stanley Band LPs George burned me a CD-R comp of a few years back. Don't think it told me anything real interesting about Cleveland either, but maybe I just missed it.
I've never been able to hear the appeal of Rodney Crowell at all -- well, except for this reissue a couple years ago of an old alblum by this pub-rocky side project band called the Cicadas that he did in 1997. Picked up a copy of one of his solo albums -- self-titled one, maybe? -- at Princeton Record Exchange for a couple bucks a couple years ago, and I thought it was total snoozeville, like they guy couldn't write or sing a hook to save his life. But in this morning's Times, cabaret guy Stephen Holden reviewed a Crowell live gig, and mentioned some songs whose subject matter seemed intriguing:
Crowell led off his acoustic set with “The Rise and Fall of Intelligent Design,” a scathingly witty broadside from his newest album, “Sex and Gasoline,” in which he imagines himself as the first female president, then inveighs against the barbarous inhumanity perpetuated in the name of organized religion.
Two wrenching dramatic monologues performed back to back — “I Wish It Would Rain” and “Wandering Boyd,” both from his 2001 album, “The Houston Kid” — explored the bond between twins, one of whom has AIDS. The first was sung from the point of view of the ailing brother, a gay hustler on the streets of Los Angeles; the second by his twin, to whom he returns to live out his final days.
Okay, I'd probably hate the songs, but who knows. Or maybe I'd like them if somebody else sang them.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/27/arts/music/27song.html?n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/People/H/Holden,%20Stephen
Edd, I owe you an email; I'm horrible at getting around to personal emails, but yours was totally welcome. Will eventually respond in kind, I promise.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 23:01 (seventeen years ago)
Frank may have answered this on that "vintage country disco" thread last year, actually
If I did, it was probably by accident, since I've never really known what "schlager" is, except maybe Europop that's a bit more florid and weepy than average Europop and it's not sung in English (and supposedly it draws on some Central and Northern European folk traditions, but damned if I can tell, and I'm listening to a kind of discoish Super Schlager Party Mix and it all seems fairly sing-alongy, and I can imagine Boney M occasionally using these melodies and rhythms, but then I can imagine Boney M occasionally using almost any popular style of melody and rhythm*). And half the time I see the term I confuse it with Schaffel, which doesn't mean the same thing at all but has many letters in common. (Schaffel is European electronic dance of about three years ago that uses triplets as if it were swing or early rock 'n' roll or boogie or r&b or T. Rex and Gary Glitter and Slade, which doesn't really narrow down the def'n and it doesn't sound nearly enough like swing or Slade to my ears. People at Poptimists were griping about Britney's "Womanizer" being a Schaffel rehash, which seems a silly thing to choose to gripe about if you're going to gripe about "Womanizer.")
Anyway, I still see the word "schlager" bandied about, so I'd assume that it's an ongoing style, and country being an ongoing trope on Eurovision, I'll bet some schlagerry combos wear cowboy hats.
*Maybe Big & Rich could revive themselves aesthetically by going schlager.
― Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 05:39 (seventeen years ago)
Which one's the guy with the halfway-to-Willie Nelson high voice? Probably Jimmie Dale Gilmore. He's got a distinctive, slightly warbly, high voice.
― that's not my post, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 06:18 (seventeen years ago)
country being an ongoing trope on Eurovision
See, there you go again, Frank, answering questions you're not even meaning to answer. Anyway, yeah, I obviously cheated by conflating "Europop" with "schlager" in the earlier question and answer; on that (ahem) neglected K-Tel thread I keep whining about, I've consistently been distinguishing between the two (which each generally seem to be relegated to their own separtate K-Tel-type compilations), or at least I've been distinguishing between them ever since somebody corrected me and I stopped called schlagers "lieders" by mistake. (And right, I'm not sure how exactly one would define schlagers, either, though I've generally been defining it like the compilations -- which admittedly rarely explicitly use the "schlager" word in their titles -- seem to, namely something like "pre-rock style German MOR pop for grownups and maybe rural German children that never died, or at least didn't by the time these comps came out.") But ANYWAY, my point is that I'd been wondering on that thread not only whether the country-schlager is still around, but also whether the country-Europop (best exemplified,as far as I can tell so far, by the '70s band Pussycat and a few stray early Bonnie Tyler songs) is still around, the latter which your Texas Lightning mention seemed to indicate it might be. Which was news to me, as is country being an ongoing Eurovision trope (do you know other examples?), so thanks. (Also, seems to my unschooled ears that those schlagery Northern European florid weepies you speak of are all through Europop, most obviously in the melodies of Abba -- the group who pretty much defined was Europop is -- unless I'm missing something. And if those compilations are any indication, there also seems often to be a fine line between Europop and schlager, at least when chirpy upbeat young female Eurovision contestants are involved.)
Poptimists were griping about Britney's "Womanizer" being a Schaffel rehash
Okay, this is getting way out of the proper bounds of a rolling country thread, but that's just ridiculous -- they were complaining that it's a rehash of some kind of music that lasted all of five months three years ago, and that almost nobody even heard? (Actually, for all I know I do the same thing all the time, too. Or is their point that schaffel -- which I've barely heard myself, and when I did, it um, sounded "kind of shuffly" to me, which is the adjective I give to 99% of the European electronic dance music I hear but don't quite get these days -- was never any good in the first place, and therefore not worth rehashing?) It'd be even sillier than complaining that some new country act was just a rehash of early Big N Rich. (Okay, I did what you did. And I'm guessing B'N'R were more popular than schaffel was. And Trailer Choir, who half-heartedly rehashed early B'N'R last year, were merely okay.)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 12:53 (seventeen years ago)
Actually (okay, here's a less forced way to put this discussion back in the c&w ballpark), how Europop-country was the so-called "pop" album by LeAnn Rimes that came out in Europe but not in the States a couple years ago (and which I shamefully never got around to checking out?) And how much commercial success did it have in Europe, for that matter?
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 13:11 (seventeen years ago)
German MOR pop for grownups and maybe rural German children that never died, or at least didn't by the time these comps came out
I meant the style of pop hadn't died by then, not necessarily the children (though I hope for their sake they didn't.)
Also: "...the latter OF which your Texas Lightning mention seemed to indicate it MIGHT."
and: "Abba -- the group who pretty much defined WHAT Europop is"
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 17:11 (seventeen years ago)
This (from a press release) sounds potentially interesting, but my blind spots are such that I seriously doubt I could make it through a double gospel CD by anybody, not even Ronnie Milsap (whose 2006 My Life album I liked a lot):
"Up To Zion" is a standout track on Ronnie Milsap's two CD set 'Then Sings My Soul: 24 Favorite Hymns & Gospel Songs' (March 10th, EMI CMG) that brilliantly showcases the legendary musician's more soulful side. When co-producer Rob Galbraith presented the track to Milsap, he instantly fell in love. "'Up to Zion' is up-tempo, kind of reminiscent of some of the old-time black spirituals," Milsap details. "It reminds you of the Mississippi Delta. I have a great connection to that kind of music."
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 20:28 (seventeen years ago)
That's sort of an endorsement, if you look at it another way, much like John Mellencamp on Biography last week talking about how critics were never going to like him until he had so many hit singles they were forced to deal with him. Do the viewers of GAC even know what the Village Voice is? So why should it work vice versa?
― Gorge, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 21:34 (seventeen years ago)
Well, look at what happened when Alan Jackson saw his album reviewed in the Village Voice...
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 23:27 (seventeen years ago)
Howcum no one mentioned Scott Kempner's solo album here in 2008? Did anyone get it? Seems to me it would have been right in there with the people who liked Alejandro Escovedo, except more Dion-like.
And I missed Dan Baird's team-up thing with Warner Hodges, too.
― Gorge, Thursday, 29 January 2009 00:24 (seventeen years ago)
I heard the Kempner--I heard it as school-of-rock rock, somewhat depressive or at least more depressive than the Escovedo record, which was way too rockist for my taste. but definitely had an East Coast, Dion sorta thing going.
picked up for one dollar Cyndi Thomson's '01 My World, which has a song written with Chuck Prophet (who was Escovedo's collaborator on Real Wild Animal or whatever that one, where AE looked like Lou Reed playing with his joystick circa New Sensations, was, that everyone but me liked), "I'm Gone." Nice, and Cyndi is posing with a basket of apples on the cover and carryin' 'em on the back.
I believe the columnist who picked up the publicist's ball on the Alan-Jackson-can't-understand-big-words tip (when I reviewed his last record as a "Zen sneak-fuck," which I meant as a compliment to the vigor of Alan Jackson hisself), is leaving Nashville's increasingly thing Gannett paper soon. "What in God's name does detumescence mean?!" she asked of one of the words I threw into the pasture on that one, and I can only hope she's never had to find out.
― eddhurt, Thursday, 29 January 2009 02:31 (seventeen years ago)
increasingly thin Gannett paper, actually.
saw George Clinton on that John Rich Nashville reality show the other night looking like he didn't know where the fuck he'd just landed.
― eddhurt, Thursday, 29 January 2009 02:33 (seventeen years ago)
the Charlie Louvin gospel record was not enjoyable, because Charlie Louvin is old and can't sing any more. I recently saw a movie, one of those cheapo semi-documentaries they made in Nashville in the '60s, that climaxed with a fiddler, Gordon Scott, doing his thing in what looked like the basement of a Holiday Inn. And also Webb Pierce driving around in his car, the one with silver pistols for door handles and so forth, with some other country stars. Charlie Louvin performed, this was after his brother got killed, and he was perfectly fine, not inspired. Who was insanely great was the great Dave Dudley doing "Six Days on the Road," he had a big, knowing, slightly pockmarked face and he could barely sing but he delivered his great song with real panache. Pretty far out, actually. The movie was called something like Music City USA, and caught a moment (1966) where Pickers were the thing in Nashville--mythic, modest old boys who loved tinkering with things like pedal steel guitars (great sequence with Shot Jackson in his pedal-steel shop messing around with) just like Southern boys always liked getting their hands black working on cars.
― eddhurt, Thursday, 29 January 2009 02:41 (seventeen years ago)
So what Dion era is Kempner suggesting? Belmonts, "Abraham Martin and John"/"Your Own Backyard," something between? Now I'm curious. (Never heard the record, or heard of it, til now. Ditto the Baird/Hodges.)
So I got some mass email about Neko Case's tour, replied saying I'd love to check out her record, and never heard back. If they send me one, I'll listen, but I really doubt I'll pursue it any further than that. There's got to be some reason that her stuff (and the New Pornographers stuff) has never at all stuck with me, and though part of that may well be because I've never put all that much energy into it from my end, I'd also be surprised if she suddenly grabs me at this point. If that Paste cover story is indication (hey, free magazines always get stuck in my bathroom), she mainly seems to write about...what? Dreams and fairy tales? Not a good sign (even if one the dreams she mentions does involve "getting it on with Steve Earle and Madonna. She told me my hair looked like a wig." What is it about 30something* female singers -- see also Jennifer Nettles -- and Steve Earle anyway? Don't think that one inspired a song, though.) Even worse sign is that the album is said to include "all these amazing musicians like M. Ward, Sarah Harmer, and Lucy Wainwright Roche, plus folks from Calexico, the Sadies and the New Pornographers all coming in." So in other words, it's just indie rock, right? Not to mention indie for growunups? Sounds, uh, "great".
* -- Didn't check their ages; just estimating.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 29 January 2009 13:05 (seventeen years ago)
QuantumNoise, I haven't heard Chatham County Line IV--they're back with Stamey? The second album produced by him seemed to choke a little, but the first was great, so this one is too, eh? I'll def have to check it out. I'd like to thing anybody could dig them as a song band, aside from any bluegrass interest (ditto this year's Steeldrivers debut).Here's my take on them, in '06:http://charlotte.creativeloafing.com/gyrobase/both_sides_of_the_line/content?oid=40857
Hey Dow, I just saw this. Belated thanks for the link! Yeah, the new album was recorded with Stamey, here in Asheville, I believe. I think this new one has some of their best songs to date. And even though I ultimately prefer bluegrass live, I listened to this album with headphones last night, and there's a lot of subtle stuff going on (thanks to the wife for a new pair of Sennheisers). It's really warm, and the picking is well-detailed but never in your face. Stamey did a really good job blending everything without it turning to goop.
― QuantumNoise, Thursday, 29 January 2009 13:38 (seventeen years ago)
as pure singer, Neko Case makes it, and I thought Fox Confessor was a lovely record. she sang about real life a good bit, far as I could hear--unwed mothers, drugs, boredom, death. just an enormous voice. she's almost as good as Caroline Peyton, whose '72 Mock Up invented and discarded freak-folk before it ever got off the ground, and Peyton could sing blues very credibly ("Fishin' Blues" on the video segment of Mock Up and she used to "Built for Comfort" too) and there's some country leanings on her second record, '77's Intuition along with a few demos in which she's up there with thousands of other folkies, except that "Try to Be True" is pure California pop in the vein of Jackie DeShannon and sung far better than DeShannon, Joni Mitchell or even Linda Ronstadt could muster. (I did the liners for both these reissues, and Peyton told me she gave voice pointers to Ronstadt in the early '80s.) Anyway, as expressionist pop these records were prescient, which isn't to say I think they always work.
― eddhurt, Thursday, 29 January 2009 15:09 (seventeen years ago)
I dunno, neither Neko's singing nor lyrics have ever hit me as especially direct; always felt there was a distance I just couldn't get past. But like I said, I've never tried that hard. Maybe this time I will.
I feel like we briefly talked about the dearth of Catholic country on the rolling thread last year or the year before; either way, this hits me as interesting choice for a single (from Billboard's new country song chart.) I'm probably the only person who cares at this point, but maybe they can even milk more sales out of Kid's year-and-a-half-old album (which, when it came out, everybody agreed barely seemed to have any "country" on it at all):
57 NEW 1 Blue Jeans And A Rosary, Kid Rock Kid Rock,R.Cavallo (R.J.Ritchie,M.Young ) Top Dog/Atlantic PROMO SINGLE | CO5 | 57
― xhuxk, Thursday, 29 January 2009 21:01 (seventeen years ago)
Dan Baird & Homemade Sin is him, Hodges, Mauro Magellan and another guy from the Yayhoos, probably Keith Christopher. They had two recent albums, both on import. And Baird was apparently on Hodges' solo record.
Billy Powell died, he of the piano intro to Skynyrd's "Freebird."
― Gorge, Thursday, 29 January 2009 22:59 (seventeen years ago)
I like Neko's voice, strong with a lot in it, though on the only alb of hers I've heard in full - her first, I think (have also heard her on New Pornos) - she achieved that lost-in-the-distant-drizzle feel that indie likes and I usually don't. My friend Mara says that later Neko albs are better than earlier. (Actually, I need to explore Mara's taste further, as she's a mighty fan of Dylan, but interestingly she manages to pretty much reverse the canon on the guy, got into him in 1987 - "generally regarded as his worst year" - and, while she's willing to like the '60s records, cares most for the stuff from Planet Waves forward. I think her favorite is Street Legal. She adores his radio show, which one of those satellite stations keeps rebroadcasting, 'cause of the way he seems to be willing to play anything from anytime. She likes his concerts for the way he's willing play any of his stuff in any way, though she was once hearing a concert boot and she identified the year (early '00s, I think) on the basis of "oh, that's the year that they would sing harmony on ______" (some song from Planet Waves, iirc). A recent concert in Aspen had "the worst audience I'd ever witnessed at a Dylan concert" (rich and lethargic, or easily distracted, or something) but she enjoyed it anyway because for the first five songs the band sounded like it was trying to fall down the stairs, which may or may not have made it good music but was worth trying, she said.)(I suppose that if you're in Aspen and not skiing, falling down the stairs is an alternative). (None of this has anything to do with Neko Case except if there's an unexpected pathway that can lead me into Case's music, Mara would be the person likely to have found it.)
― Frank Kogan, Thursday, 29 January 2009 23:14 (seventeen years ago)
xp Fwiw, when I wrote about Kid Rock album for Rhapsody last year (and here before that), "Blue Jeans And A Rosary" sounded to me like it could have been a ballad on the second Faster Pussycat album. (Probably not as good as most of that album, though, and not creative enough in its sappiness.) Still, more evidence that hair metal then = country now.
Speaking of glam-rock: Two listens in (which is all I'm gonna attempt), by far the funniest thing about the new Springsteen album is how the background "doo-doo-doo"s in the opening track "Outlaw Pete" sound exactly like "I Was Made For Loving You" by Kiss, their late '70s disco move which has since been covered by countless gay Euro Hi-NRG acts.
And I guess it says something for the album that I was actually able to make it through twice without pushing reject, but not that much. I think Bruce's voice's is just really shot and coagulated and sodden these days -- but then, I've thought that for almost two decades now, and if the songs actually had some energy to them, I might not mind so much. What I really really really hate is Brendan O'Brien's totally vacant and antiseptic new age bachelor-pad Muzak schmaltz production touches, which I gather are supposed to give the music space and drama, but to me just drain it of any life.
Not that it would have that much to begin with, but at least, sometimes, in the first half of the album, some semblance of Springsteen's old knack for melodies seems to be there, albiet submerged somewhere under O'Brien's bloat -- like, in "My Lucky Day" (didn't he already have a boring album with a name like that?), you can sort of hear the amusement park sound of Born To Run, but it's way out there in the distance, like you're listening across a couple bodies of water and all this wind, which just dampens the effect and makes it all moot.
I like the straightforward lyrics of "Queen of the Supermarket" okay (he's got a crush on the cashier who bags his groceries, like Jonathan Richman at the bank), but then I think of how catchy, say, Kenny Chesney could make it (hasn't he had grocery cashier as heroine songs in the past couple years already?) And there's something vaguely Celtic about the guitars and backup vocals of "What Love Can Do," and "Good Eye," I think it is, tries to get a sorta CCR swamp-blues groove going. But none of it clicks. Springsteen sings a lot of it in this weird detached way that sounds really heavy-handed to me, like he's "interpreting" some old standards somebody else wrote -- putting them on a pedastal or something. Strange since the songs aren't all that good in the first place. (Aren't some or all of these suppposed to be outtakes from his last mediocre album?)
Another thing that kind of amused me is how, in "Tomorrow Never Knows" (which halfway counts as country since it's got green grass growing), his voice sounds so much like tired late-period Mellencamp, who back in the '80s everybody thought of as a Bruce ripoff to begin with. And then toward album's end there's this song called "The Last Carnival" that comes off like a much lamer version of "County Fair," which was probably the most tolerable song from Mellencamp's mostly lame '08 album; I guess circus-as-aging metaphors are a new trend. (Is that a Tom Waits thing?) Then, next and last song ("The Wrestler," alleged "bonus track"), Springsteen mentions a scarecrow!
― xhuxk, Thursday, 29 January 2009 23:18 (seventeen years ago)
And oh yeah, not that it necessarily would have salvaged the thing, but I really expected Bruce to be an opportunist and somehow tackle the economy -- layoffs, foreclosures, plants closing, etc. Isn't that part of why he exists? And if not now, when? He practically owned the Reagan era recession. But nope, there's none of that at all.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 29 January 2009 23:26 (seventeen years ago)
Jessica Popper once posted this on my livejournal while I was liveblogging last year's Marit Larsen album:
There is a Swedish pop-country artist called Jill Johnson, but she has become more of a typical schlager-pop singer lately as she is a past winner of Melodifestivalen.
― Frank Kogan, Thursday, 29 January 2009 23:47 (seventeen years ago)
I was totally cut off of country last year, will make it my goal to connect into it this year. I've not heard the Jamey Johnson or Carll Hayes or anything. I guess I'll start with Kogan's and Eddy's country critics polls ballots, and any others that get posted here. Countryuniverse.net I usually find great for this stuff as well.
Anyways, re: Neko, I've always loved Furnace Room Lullaby, but the rest of her albums just sound like mediocre indie rock with a slight country twang, to my ears.
― Greg Fanoe, Friday, 30 January 2009 21:33 (seventeen years ago)
Good luck, Greg. There are actually a bunch of year-end country best of lists toward the end of the Rolling Country '08 thread. Also, I noticed these two unusually country-heavy Pazz & Jop ballots:
Randy Lewis
http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/critics/2008/685482
Bobby Reed
http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/critics/2008/685428
New Eric Church album on now; lots of really hard-rocking songs, sounds like. (Plenty of ballad mush, too, which might not be bad.) Also one where he seems to be saying Johnny Cash would kick Jason Aldean's ass (though he doesn't mention Aldean by name, just refers to some guy singing about Cash.)
New album by Seattle boogie-rock power trio Too Slim and the Taildraggers, Free Your Mind, due out mid-March -- man, I cut him plenty of slack last year, but I really wish Too Slim sang half as good as he plays guitar. That laid-back grumble of his is sort of distinctive, but really doesn't put any personality across to speak of, and really cuts into the songs' hook quotient -- cuts into them working as songs, period. Album finally kicks in a bit more toward the very close, with one called "This Phone" where some gal never calls him up but then at song's end the phone rings, then with closer "The Light" featuring lady gospel/soul shouter Lauren Evans, but her belting only serves to underline how dang lackadaisical Slim's own vocals have been sounding throughout. Some real nice guitar solos, though.
― xhuxk, Friday, 30 January 2009 22:39 (seventeen years ago)
"Ya sing about Johnny Cash/The Man in Black woulda whipped your ass" -- in a song about "one hit wonders" and "boy bands." "I'll see you again when you're laying in the bargain bin." Plus your usual kiss-the-ass-of-the-past horseshit about how Waylon and Hank wouldn't've done it this way, as if I care. I dunno...nothing new there, I don't think, except the explicit wishing of violence on another country star (and who won't end up in the bargain bin at this point, assuming there still is one?) Also, Aldean's Cash song rocked fairly hard itsownself as I recall. But Church does seem to do better stuff (some of it more rocking than the rest. Also, can't swear there's more rocking stuff this time than last time, but most of what's here sounds good.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 30 January 2009 22:57 (seventeen years ago)
new Flatlanders album ...some decent song in there somewhere that runs off a list of small southwesten cities
Okay, found it -- "After The Storm." I think Gilmore's singing, and I like it. Real good existential homeless hitchhiker-country ballad with very pretty pedal steel. So that makes two songs, at least. "If I'd taken that job in Santa Fe, I never would have lost what I lost today...You're in Baton Rouge, I bet, or maybe Lafeyette, Houston, San Antone, it's all the storm." People tell him the storm has passed, but it's still raging in his mind.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 31 January 2009 00:11 (seventeen years ago)
"it's all the same," I meant.
Next song starts with somebody (Hancock I'll guess) standing at the crossroads in the rain, then quoting the Book of Revelations. Beginning sounds a bit too much like Cat Stevens' "Moonshadow" for my tastes. I like the verse about shattered glass all over the floor (and leaving something on the fridge??), but not so much the chorus about wishing for rainbows.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 31 January 2009 00:16 (seventeen years ago)
Then "No Way I'll Ever Leave You," somewhere between tejano and zydeco; Gilmore again? Okay, this album is better than I was suggesting above, I guess.(And those southwestern cities in the storm song clearly aren't as small as I thought they were, either.)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 31 January 2009 00:23 (seventeen years ago)
Kelly Clarkson's new single, "My Life Would Suck Without You In My Pants With A Butcher Knife," is vaguely countryish at the start in that the melody of the opening couplet is lifted from "Desolation Row" (then the melody of the next couplet is lifted from "You Can't Hurry Love"). Overall, the track is a bit more obvious than one would expect, at least in comparison to the subtle gradations and gentle lyricism of other recent Dr. Luke productions such as "I Kissed A Girl" and "Girlfriend."
― Frank Kogan, Saturday, 31 January 2009 07:49 (seventeen years ago)
Church's Carolina was originally set for Aug. '08, so an additional 8 months to get it out. Wonder what took so long.
― eddhurt, Saturday, 31 January 2009 15:47 (seventeen years ago)
wait -- "Desolation Row" had a melody? whoa.
― Dimension 5ive, Saturday, 31 January 2009 15:51 (seventeen years ago)
Taylor Swift is selling, as today's New York Times reports:http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/31/arts/music/31swif.html?ref=arts
she's affiliated w/ Universal Republic thru Big Machine, who have offices on the Row. Interesting, I recently interviewed Courtney Jaye, a sort of garage-pop-country artist who once had a major-label deal (with Island) and has recorded a new one that includes a duet with Band of Horses' Ben Bridwell. She had cut a deal with Universal Republic to work just one single from her forthcoming, which is gonna be called The Exotic Sounds of Courtney Jaye, as well as shoot a video and work a tour. Apparently this was under the aegis of something called Republic South, and Jaye expressed doubt that the deal was gonna work as well as she or UR/RS might've hoped. Anyway, the Swift piece was interesting and I would guess that Radio Disney had a lot to do with her success, too. The numbers are good but in comparison to what a number-one record was selling 9 years ago, sobering.
― whisperineddhurt, Saturday, 31 January 2009 15:56 (seventeen years ago)
x-post on Church's Carolina: It seems like labels are hesitant to release an album these days if they haven't already gotten a single from it into the top ten. Church has already released two or three songs from the new record & I don't think any of them has been a hit yet.
― President Keyes, Saturday, 31 January 2009 16:58 (seventeen years ago)
Lots of major label country albums have been pushed back almost into oblivion in the past couple years -- Phil Vassar came out maybe nine months or so after it was supposed to (with a slightly changed track list), and others (Bombshel, Ashley Monroe, Terri Clark) never came out at all, as far as I know. (Wasn't there even some Lee Ann Womack album that was shelved a couple years ago? Or did that one just wind up being reconfigured somehow later?)
Taylor Swift is selling
Well, sort of. Point of the piece seemed to be that, for an album that's topped the Billboard chart for eight weeks, Fearless really hasn't sold all that much (compared to previous albums that have performed similar feats) -- just 2.4 million. Not surprising given industrywide sales downturns, and the fact that nobody much buys music in January anyway. The piece did, though, have Billboard chart honcho Keith Caulfield saying those buying her album aren't just teens, but also "older people, like moms and dads." Which reasserts some claims made upthread.
Not sure I hear the Dylan and Supremes that Frank hears in that Kelly Clarkson song, but I do think the guitar opening has some country or rockabilly in it. I think the song sounds pretty good until Kelly starts yelling at me, and then I'm out the door.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 31 January 2009 20:13 (seventeen years ago)
I think you're right about the Womack album-- a single came out, tanked, and then the album was pulled and all new songs recorded.
And I think Terri Clark was dropped from her label & is now concentrating on the "Canadian market."
― President Keyes, Sunday, 1 February 2009 00:56 (seventeen years ago)
Womack released a summer 2006 single, "Finding My Way Back Home," which scraped into the Top 40 before dying. She shelved her whole project and started again.
Very similarly, Clark had a pair of (bad) singles bomb at radio in '07. Unlike Womack, she couldn't agree at all on material with her label. In November '08, she wrote on her website that she'd asked out of her contract with BNA. Given that the statement said she was going indie because she couldn't (wouldn't?) fit into Music Row's rigid philosophies, I'm guessing the decision was two-sided.
Eric Church's debut showed promise, but the new single is a complete waste. He loves his cold beer, his kick-ass truck, and mama's cookin', but not as much as his beloved. Some way to woo a woman.
― Blake Boldt, Sunday, 1 February 2009 03:48 (seventeen years ago)
Wonder if the unbargained-for success of Jamey Johnson's album has had any bearing on his buddy (or at least sometime on-stage collaborator) Church's album finally coming out. Don't hate that single myself, but it did hit me as a much lesser version of Toby's "I Love This Bar" ("I like my truck/I like my girlfriend/I like to take her out to dinner/I like a movie now and then.") And yeah, can't imagine many women would be wooed by Eric's love of Skoal, or whatever he says. (Seems more likely the idea though is to woo men -- guys saying "hey bro, I love all that stuff, too! So I guess being in a relationship doesn't make me a total wuss, right?"
Anyway, wonder if Johnson's success (though he did have one hit single at least) convinces anybody in Nashville that you might not necessarily need big single hits to sell an album these days, at least as well as all the not-great-selling country albums these days that do have big single hits. In other words, maybe there's a different marketing plan they could use with Church -- if, say, they could figure out how to sell him to rock or Triple A fans (what I suggested might also be happening with Pat Green up above, and might explain why Jamey's new single is "High Cost of Living.")
Actually thought Terri Clark's "Dirty Girl" was fun myself, and "In My Next Life" not that bad either (ditto the shelved album they came from), but I've never been a great predictor of what country fans will go for. (Never heard her as that far from the Music Row mainstream, either, except that she tended toward better material than lots of it.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 1 February 2009 16:36 (seventeen years ago)
Interesting piece on the Big Bopper in Texas Music's 50th Anniversary of the Day The Music Died issue with Buddy Holly's glasses on the cover; had no idea he'd planned to do a record called "Purple People Eater Meets The Witch Doctor" (!), not to mention that (under his real name J.P. Richardson) he wrote George Jones's "White Lightning" and Johnny Preston's "Running Bear," not to mention that some credit him with inventing the term "music video."
Long Pareles piece on Springsteen (new album, Super Bowl appearance, Wal-Mart, etc) in today's Times; claims the new album "often plays like a '60s anthology." Says certain tracks sound like the Byrds and Beach Boys and Ben E. King (and hears Creedence in the title track rather than "Good Eye," which he calls "pyschedelic blues-rock"); I'm not saying that's not there, but how he hears that '60s music under all that vacant Brendan O'Brien BS in beyond me. (I hear way more specific '60s influences in, say, the new Black Lips album due out this spring.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 1 February 2009 16:46 (seventeen years ago)
(Actually seriously doubt I'd hear much "60s Top 40" on Bruce's new record even if O'Brien wasn't involved, fwiw; it just doesn't have the concise hooks or songs for it. And while it's not like Born To Run, say, ever literally "sounded like" girl group oldies or Gary "U.S." Bonds either, at least I could hear how it was influenced by them.)
Biggest country-release ultra-delay of recent years, now that I think of it, was maybe that first Julie Roberts album -- I swear that advances were floating around a good year before it ever hit the stores. (Shelby Lynne may have had one like that too, once.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 1 February 2009 19:05 (seventeen years ago)
(Ed Wards playing fahn fahn morsels from Thank You Friend, the Ardent comp, rat now on NPR--not that country, but since we sometimes talk about power pop etc on RC threads, it's vivrantly relevant)(Greg, there are more ballots, incl mine, on last part of RC 2007)(xhuxx, have you seen the Please Tell Me About Schaffel thread from a few years back; it may have spawned)Posts have gotten meatier since I went away, better do that again. Except I'm a semi-vegetarian (segue scootin to yet another of my show previews)Ex-Marine, ex-cop, but mainly a songbird migrating between Key West and Ohio's Put-In-Bay, Pat Dailey has a wide, wild range of musical perspectives on human behavior. Perspectives on perspectives, really, because he knows all the sweet, salty and stinky fish stories we tell ourselves and each other, while bumping and sailing along. Dailey's mother wit was sharpened by the late, great songwriter-cartoonist Shel Silverstein, from the "R"-rated banquet (and implied Jimmy Buffett parodies) of "Raw Bars," to their kiddie-songs classic, "Underwater Land," where life in the food chain tastes better than everHe also goes into Gordo Lightfoot/Waylon Jennings vibrato grooves sometimes, but with some articulate, stalwart sentiment, like Stan Rodgers covers.
― dow, Sunday, 1 February 2009 21:16 (seventeen years ago)
Xhuxk, when Kelly sings "Guess this means you're sorry, you're standing at my door" at the start of "My Life Would Suck Without You," the melody is an exact match for Dylan singing "They're sellin' postcards of the hangin', they're paintin' the passports brown" at the start of "Desolation Row" (well, Kelly's voice rises on the "ry" in "sorry" while Dylan's descends on the "in'" in "hangin'," but the chord is the same and that's as close to identical as anyone ever gets), then when Kelly follows that with "Guess this means you take back all you said before" that's a near match to "Love don't come easily, it's a game of give and take" in the Supremes' "You Can't Hurry Love" (different number of words - more in the first half of the Kelly line and more in the second half of the Supremes line - so there's a bit dif rhythm, and slightly different chording in the second half of the line). Then Kelly repeats w/ a couple more lines, same Dylan-Supremes melody combo as before, and that's the verse basically. Then she starts blaring her way to the chorus. And then she does a second verse, same melody as the first. And the third verse is the same melody as the first.
― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 1 February 2009 21:25 (seventeen years ago)
(OK, now that I listen to the Dylan, he starts higher on "They're sellin'" than Kelly does on "Guess you," if that strikes you as a big difference. And "Paintin'" is a third higher than "standin'," too. Melody seems real close nonetheless, at least to me.)
― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 1 February 2009 21:31 (seventeen years ago)
"articulate, stalwart" yadda yadda--okay, he does this one Rodgers song about a sailor who's frustrated because "If I told that kid once, I did a hundred times" not to trust fickle Erie, especially at night; now he can't stop picturing the kid's bereft girl friend, staring into her pillow most likely. And another about a guy watching a cosmic sunset and listening to himself yak, but really he just wants to see his old lady NOW fuck this picturesque shit.
― dow, Sunday, 1 February 2009 21:31 (seventeen years ago)
Flatlanders' "Borderless Love" seemed promising, but comes off pretty heavy-handed
Possibly redeemed, though, for sounding like the Royal Guardsmen's "Snoopy Vs. the Red Baron."
New Dierks Bentley album seems to be getting iffy reviews so far, at least from Rolling Stone (can't recall who wrote that one) and Jon Caramanica in this morning's Times. Wasn't aware that the one track I love, "I Can't Forget Her," had originally been done by Clay Walker a few years ago. Both reviews miss how beautiful and eerie Bentley's version is; I should check out Walker's. Do agree it's Dierks's most ignorable album so far, though.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 03:45 (seventeen years ago)
I like the riffage and what I suspect is a calculated effort to appeal to pot-smokin', jam-band-lovin' fans on the Dierks record. Great road music, but his voice is fairly marginal. Some cool riffs, though. Pat Green has a goofy voice full of sympathy and there are lotsa eerie touches on nearly song, some kind of poignancy that can seem overdone, and damn he sure wants to sympathize with everybody and everything. So he's for shit and not against. "Man, that's lucky," and he almost rhymes "paparazzi" and "NASCAR" on that one. Nice weeping slide there too. Hopes, dreams, regular guys, red-white-and-blue skies: he's filled in the Springsteen gap. The attempted modalism of the melody of "In This World" is also pretty good, and I like the line about his sister when the sun goes down. This is the one he wrote himself and might be the best thing on the record, very tasteful indeed. Except he cannot resist overdoing it, and I could see how his vocalizing could ultimately be as annoying as, oh, Elvis Costello's; it seems a bit heavy to me. But shit, a beautiful ending to "In This World." The less said about "Country Star" the better, although I think he has a sense of humor, as in "gotta get my ass to Nashville." Or maybe this is such received-notion songcraft that it's become new again, dunno.
Saturday night we got out and saw Amber Digby, at the Midnite Jamboree. A cute girl with a decent voice, pure Texas shuffle, on a Texas label, and a great steel player. Did a few Loretta Lynn numbers, some Justin Trevino tunes, and Johnny Bush would be proud. Speaking of Bush, been reading the new Willie Nelson bio by Joe Nick Patoski. Pretty fine, and Bush relates how he first met Willie, cartoon-like, as some woman or another threw a pot at Willie's head and he was first glimpsed by an astounded Bush outrunning the object, just like Wil E. Coyote--everything suspended in mid-air.
― whisperineddhurt, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 04:43 (seventeen years ago)
Curious which of the new Dierks songs you think have notable guitaring, Edd. Like I said, I like a few songs -- the first two, and that Clay Walker cover -- but I just replayed the thing, and I'm actually irritated by how pedestrian most of it sounds; his singing has never sounded more bored, for one thing. A few tracks (e.g. "Pray") are almost unbearable to me, and that bluegrass closer with Ronnie McCoury just strikes me as pro forma, not exciting at all.
Have made a point of not paying close attention to the words of Pat Green's "Country Star," but oddly (given that it's apparently about country music), it so far strikes me as the toughest '80s Cougar-style heartland rocker on the record. Best guitar solo so far seems to be in "Carry On," unless I missed one.
Best '80s heartland Cougar on Eric Church's album is "Young And Wild" (cf. "hang onto 16 as long as you can," or Kenny Chesney's "Young"); like the even harder rocking opener "Ain't Killed Me Yet" (about not avoiding stuff the doctor says you should) even more. Starting to really hate the stupid anti-pretty-boy-one-hit-wonder thing between them though ("Lotta Boot Left To Fill." And I'm finding that, a few songs into the album, when tempos slow down and the ballad schlock quotient inceases, my attention fades.
If Dierks is really aiming for his newfound Bonnaroo fanbase as Edd suggests (assuming he now has one), that's yet another possible exception of country guys looking beyond the country audience, obviously.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 16:41 (seventeen years ago)
"Life on the Run" has those Detroit chromatic walk-up guitar licks all thru it, and I quite like the way the production combines banjo and guitar (and a police siren) on this one. Quite similar to what he's done all along. I also really like "Sideways," which maybe he got from the film of the same name (I was watching some Roxy Music videos with my buddy Dave Duncan the other day and he said, "shit, just imagine a Velvet Goldmine remake with Paul Giamatti playing Eno..."). Nice riff in the beginning of the third song, "Feel That Fire," but he's doing a lot of songs about how he sort of understands women, as in "she wants to wear my shirt to bed," I assume it's a white shirt and not the plaid he sports on the cover, which probably smells like bad incense and good weed, which I think is a good title for the record in another universe. Lot of walking-up guitar licks again "Here She Comes." The weird little distanced sonics of the opener to the wistful-as-hell "I Can't Forget Her" bleeds in the obligatory western-mythos move on the record, "here in Del Rio nothin' seems to change 'cept the weather," so he got to get on the road. She runs like a river but she should be running like a well-outfitted tour bus. He watches TV on the bus and it's bad news in "Beautiful World." Very nice brief lick opens "Little Heartwrecker." "Last Call" is bluegrass of the stoned variety. So yeah, this is a pretty mediocre album, all said and done. Could even be that Zac Brown (who I think also has his eye on the jam-band market) does it better.
― whisperineddhurt, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:33 (seventeen years ago)
xp yet another possible exception of country guys looking beyond
"possible example" I meant, not "exception."
And I guess Dierks played Lollapalooza not Bonnaroo last year, right? (Though inasmuch as those two festival crowds differ these days -- i.e., not much anymore -- I'd still say he's got more a potential audience with Bonnaroosters than Lollapoloozers.)
Funny how Pat Green's new album, just like Springsteen's new one, includes a song with "lucky" in its title, a couple albums after they both put out albums with "lucky" in their titles.
Second half of Church's album does have at least one hot rocker -- "Smoke A Little Smoke" (where he also drinks a little drink, and pulls out his stash), with meaty boogie riffs and glam-rockish handclaps. Also like how "Hell On The Heart" starts out like the Beatles' "Twist And Shout." And I wouldn't be surprised if a ballad or two sink in before long. (Actually, come to think of it, semi-extended guitar climax of the somewhat smoldering closer "Those I've Loved" is sounding pretty good right this second.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:36 (seventeen years ago)
Speaking of Eric Church, here's my May 2008 piece on Church, somewhat in advance of the new record. It should be he was "scared" by '70s-band songwriting, not "scarred," though.
― whisperineddhurt, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:37 (seventeen years ago)
We were talking about Neko Case the other day. the new Marianne Faithfull record Easy Come Easy Go: 12 Songs for Music Lovers (which has been out in Europe for a while but is just now getting a Decca release stateside) contains the singer croaking her way thru Case's "Hold On, Hold On," from Fox Confessor. Yikes. Also her and Keith Richards doing the old Gram Parsons chestnut "Sing Me Back Home." And Dolly's greatest song (one of her greatest, at least), "Down from Dover." Hal Willner provides some interesting settings and the usual guest stars, and Faithfull looks good in the cover shot and all, so how you react to this depends on how much you like spoken-word records...I suppose this is what remained undreamed-of in Shelby Lynn's philosophy...
― whisperineddhurt, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:50 (seventeen years ago)
via email from Metal Mike Saunders:
this is the BEST "LOVE SONG" OF THE LAST 30 YEARS
hahahahahaha, no seriously
KEROSENE Miranda Lambert no.18 country hit / 2005 first lp, both albums have gone platinum by now
feb 14 is on a saturday so i think i will put my CD on "repeat" on this track and play it on/off all day with the front door open, for like an hour at a time, thrice
i think every February/valentine's for the rest of my life, our band page will be a "miranda lambert valentine's day" tribute like right now
www.myspace.com/192503angrysamoans (top right, a little down)
good fan "mashup" video of the song
live outside, Eu Claire WIS w/pink electric guitar
her tour band sucks
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:51 (seventeen years ago)
oops, repeated one of those links; here's the Samoans page:
www.myspace.com/192503angrysamoans
(top right, a little down)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:52 (seventeen years ago)
Guess you gotta self-paste the Samoans link in your browser; weird. Anyway, more Metal Mike, couple weeks ago:
i have NO use for almsot any/all country issued (by new artists since 1965, in fact)(the first Patty Loveless lp is where i get interested in country again = a proper marriage between trad/country and trad/pop-songwriting, aka Brill Building).
apparently Taylor Swift is the new (fifst) female Elvis Preseley (or Beatles) but i'mnot brave enough to plunk out $14 for her new abum yet (i havern't even fully digested the fifst one which is pretty darn good).
but her "revised" MISSION STATEMENT on her myspace page is, holy fuck, this girl is articulate. she writes better (in her journals/blogs to her 2,000,000+ "friends" of whom any 100's comment into her each/every journal) than the average Stanford (or ivy leaguer) entering freshman! and she loves "minor chords" (aka, brill building musical vocabulary). could give a shit about boys, is in love with her guitar/writing/songwriting, is FRIENDS WITH MYLIE CYRUS ( = she should write fucking mylie some good ROCK songs instead of the crap mylie's or mylie-plus-adivsors keep barfing up. Def Lepperd riffs and shit. they should form a side-band, althoughi don't doubt that idea has alredy kicked itself around. Mylie and Taylor butchering 3-chord Def Lepperd riffs, rewritten. i thought Taylor's "CMT" thing w/Lepperd was totally cool. although being no fan whatsoever of the Lep guys i don't have a high bar whenit comes to hearing re-makes of their hit catalog.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 18:10 (seventeen years ago)
Taylor is articulate, and I think she can write. I have trouble with the actual music/arrangements but I am old-fashioned. But smart, yep, and that bit about "minor chords" is funny because I spoke with her last fall and she mentioned she used this "weird" chord in one of her songs, the one she wrote w/ John Rich, and me being me I had to call her on that--"Taylor, that's a minor chord, the Beatles used it to spice up that shit like 'You Won't See Me' and everything." And yeah, the Brill Building writers liked that technique too. Probably she went out and bought one of those Mel Bay chord books and got up to speed. She's so smart!
― eddhurt, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 18:23 (seventeen years ago)
Seems like Bentley's second album arrived with a bio that emph his and his band's early tours (especially with Cross Canadian Ragweed)that included some of the jam band circuit, as well as more country per se venues.His band got a lot of room on that album, and deserved it. Never been that crazy about his po'studmo vocal persona (a kiss 'n' cry cousin of Billy Currington's more spirited midnight plowboy). Even People magazine slams his new 'un (while big upping Coldplay for Album Of The Year). Oh, should still be a downloadable Neko show on NPR, think it's the All Songs Considered section (also a good Martha Wainwright show, she was Neko's rowdy lil sister opening act, but it's a sep file)I P&Jd Neko's Furnace Room Lullaby, also liked her (even more ruminatin' urban prairie echo of) The Virginian, and the Corn Sisters (Neko and Carolyn Mark, like the Everly Sisters, and kinda 12-string proto-psych country at times) and an Austin City Limits set with full band incl Kelly Hogan. Also, her version of "Christmas Card From a Hooker in Minneapolis" was a highlight of an unusually worthwhile tribute album, New Coat of Paint (Tom Waits songs are pretty good, long as he's not the singer)Haven't kept up with later albums, but her dynamic stairwell channeling of family, friendship, and other encounters through ever-emerging porchlit/rusty river imagery (stage smarts x private life) is very appealing on earlier works. Am only reviewer on Earth to pan New Pornographers.
― dow, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 19:01 (seventeen years ago)
Songs I'm curious about on the current Billboard Hot Country songs chart. (Will check youtube for them when I get around to it, but I'd be curious what anybody who has actually heard any of these thinks):
34 1 Shuttin' Detroit Down, John Rich J.Rich (J.Rich,J.D.Anderson ) Warner Bros. PROMO SINGLE | WRN | 34 35 36 39 12 Best Days Of Your Life, Kellie Pickler C.Lindsey (K.Pickler,T.Swift ) 19 DIGITAL | BNA | 3537 40 40 7 Telluride, Josh Gracin B.James (B.James,T.Verges ) Lyric Street DIGITAL | 37 38 38 38 15 Space, Sarah Buxton S.Buxton (S.Buxton,C.Cannon,L.White ) Lyric Street PROMO SINGLE | 38 47 43 45 10 Like A Woman, Jamie O'Neal R.Good (J.O'Neal,S.Bentley,J.Femino ) 1720 PROMO SINGLE | 43 48 47 46 9 Everything, Jessica Andrews J.Demarcus (Marcel ) Carolwood PROMO SINGLE | 45 58 NEW 1 The 12th Man, Dusty Drake D.Drake (S.Yurjevich,K.Fowler,D.Drake ) Big Machine DIGITAL | 58 59 59 55 5 You're My Life, Steve Azar S.Azar (S.Azar,R.Foster ) Ride/Dang DIGITAL | New Revolution | 52 60 NEW 1 What Would You Say, Trailer Choir Butter,M.Logan (Butter,Big Vinny,D.Fortney ) Show Dog Nashville DIGITAL |
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The Trailer Choir track definitely wasn't on their okay EP last year; the Steve Azar track may or may not have been on his okay album last year, but if so, it wasn't one of the tracks that jumped out at me (plus it has a mushy title, so I don't have high hopes. Also don't have high hopes for the Josh Gracin, but "Telluride" is a potentially interesting title. Though not nearly as potentially interesting as "Shuttin Down Detroit" from McCain's main man.)
As for Jamie O'Neal, Jessica Andrews, Kellie Pickler, and Dusty Drake, I've liked albums by all of them before, but have fallen behind, apparently.
Not sure I've ever even heard anything by Sarah Buxton (besides a duet she did with Cowboy Troy once), but I'm pretty sure that Frank likes her.
Way off the chart, I played new albums by both Nashville Pussy and Ian Tyson (former Ian & Sylvia folkie, now an Edmonton cowboy) a few times in the past few days, but nothing seemed to click. Which is the only thing they had in common with each other.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:37 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, okay, "Shutting Detroit Down" (live version below on the radio in Jersey) gave me the chills. Not surprised. Don't really mind its New York-baiting disguised as Wall Street-baiting, either. Haven't heard the official recorded version (and John Rich might want to ask himself why even the so-called "Reagan Democrat" Detroit suburbs went so strong for Obama. Unless he's come to his senses by now.) (Also worth noting that, when I visited my family out there at Thanksgiving, nodody seemed all that pissed off about the auto execs private-jetting to D.C. to ask for the bailouts; their line seemed to be more that jet-setting Congresspeople were hypocrities for complaining about it. Bet they'll like this song if they hear it, though -- even if the only country music they care about is Kid Rock):
― xhuxk, Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:18 (seventeen years ago)
New single (about broken couples?) by Sarah Borges and the Broken Singles is more pop-rocky than her more pub-country last album, but catchy regardless. (Just got sent the link via email, is how I know):
― xhuxk, Thursday, 5 February 2009 19:12 (seventeen years ago)
John Rich couldn't even be half as screwed up as Ted Nugent when it comes to political beliefs. My opine is that country is going to see a bit of a dip in yearly sales as its constituency rolls into ever increasing joblessness through 2009. People will buy the CDs and go to shows for awhile and then, at some point when there's a critical mass collecting unemployment, a noticeable shortfall will occur. A big Ford dealership on the corner of Colorado, something which has been in Pasadena at least as long as I have, suddenly went out of business, its lot suddenly scraped completely clean in the last couple weeks. Where did the hundreds of new cars go?
― Gorge, Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:29 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, several friends from different areas have recently mentioned suddenly clear air, lots, etc...mebbe somebody should do a country cover of T.Heads' "Nothing But Flowers." But who will buy, in such a climate?
― dow, Thursday, 5 February 2009 22:08 (seventeen years ago)
Trailer Choir "What Would You Say" is about trapped miners and uncharacteristically sappy; Dusty Drake "The 12th Man" about Pittsburgh Steelers fans and has some boogie to it. Drake much better, both already possibly somewhat past their sell-by date.
― xhuxk, Friday, 6 February 2009 01:36 (seventeen years ago)
Okay, let's see here: Sarah Buxton's "Space" is excellent (he says he wants space and she's bitter so she's going to give his sorry juvenile ass space and make it sting and she's going to put spooky quiet space in the music too and mention the dark side of the moon while she's at it and sing it all in a great scratchy rasp I now need to hear more of); Kellie Pickler's "Best Days Of Your Life" is passingly cute pop-rock (another breakup song about how he's gonna miss this); Jamie O'Neal's "Like A Woman" is very horny wife-and-new-mom who wants her husband to make her feel like a natural woman song (sung in an appropriately fleshy country-soul voice to match); Josh Gracin's "Telluride" is not nearly as good as the eight-year-old original version by Tim McGraw and also doesn't put over the resentment of a working class kid spending his vacation working to serve spoiled rich kids nearly as well (at least judging from several live Gracin videos on youtube -- couldn't find his studio version, but I'm still fairly convinced that as a singer the dude's a zero not a hero, which can not be said of Mr. McGraw).
― xhuxk, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:40 (seventeen years ago)
(Pickler song more "just pop" than "pop rock," actually. Production suggests something non-country from the '80s.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:42 (seventeen years ago)
That Sarah Borges xhuxk posted is very, very Joan Jett.
― Nebuchadnezzar Strychnine (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 6 February 2009 15:48 (seventeen years ago)
Jessica Andrews "Everything" -- Big bland devoid-of-personality adult-contemporary ballad about how some guy Jessica broke up with (and should therefore GET OVER ALREADY) is her everything. Also it's too long.
Steve Azar "You're My Life" (another "you're my" song just like Jessica's apparently) doesn't seem to be on youtube. But it was indeed on Indianola last year, and I didn't like it then. Songs on there I did like somewhat were "Crowded," "Flatlands," especially "The Coach," and maybe one or two others.
― xhuxk, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:38 (seventeen years ago)
Speaking of sell-by dates, I finally figured out what I like best/basically about Jamey Johnson, in the following show preview:After eight years in the Marines, Jamey Johnson won and lost in Nashville, then wrote clean-and-sober hits (plus "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk") for others. He's learning to see and get through the old dualities. So, on Johnson's current album, "That Lonesome Song," his band bounces the sardonic daydream of "Mowin' Down The Roses" and brushes by the testimonal "High Cost of Livin' ", sweetly tempting each. Also, black-and-white images (mere evidence) lead straight up through a World War II veteran's history, always lived "In Color", and still in the present tense.
― dow, Friday, 6 February 2009 19:13 (seventeen years ago)
Actually, it was "see (and get) through the old dualities" and I think I got all the commas AP-right in the sent/published version, this is typed from handwritten original
― dow, Friday, 6 February 2009 19:17 (seventeen years ago)
So, question of the day: When exactly did John Doe (the ex X guy) start to suck? I was actually a pretty huge fan of those first four X albums (stuck with the band longer than some punk fans I know), including the third and fourth ones where they started to work in country/roots-type influences. More Fun In the New World was even my #1 album in 1983, the first year my Pazz & Jop ballot got printed in the Voice. Only liked a couple things they did after that, though (especially "4th of July"), and thought Doe and Exene's proto-alt-country Knitters were just bad cornball kitsch, and have never paid much attention to Doe's solo stuff. Now he's got one of the dullest tracks on that Chris Gaffney tribute album, and he's got an album of country covers coming out on Yep Roc this spring which I played a couple times yesterday, and man, the guy has no capability for expression left in his singing at all. He used to, even doing music not too far from this. Anyway, he cardboard-voices his way through "Detroit City," which is well-timed, but he does nothing with it, plus "Help Me Make It Through the Night" (the Mekons did that one better as I recall), "The Cold Hard Facts Of Life," "Stop The World And Let Me Off" (some of the same chord changes as Merle Haggard's "If We Make It Through December," I just realized, not to mention some song the Boxmasters did last year), etc. (I'm not even sure off hand which old country acts those last couple are most associated with, so maybe Edd should school us.) Closest song Doe comes to pulling off is probably "Are The Good Times Really Over For Good," early '80s Merle about how Ford and Chevy don't make cars as good as they used to and stuff like that, but maybe I was just happy to hear the song. (Didn't some alt-country type cover "Big City" recently too? If so, seems like the Hag LP of that name is maybe belatedly being acknowledged as the classic album it had always sounded like to me in the first place.)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 7 February 2009 20:23 (seventeen years ago)
(Also "Are The Good Times Really Over For Good" clearly counts as '80s recession country, even though one of the main things Hag laments in it is how girls have forgotten how to cook properly ever since the microwave oven was introduced. That "back before Nixon lied to us all on TV" line really hits me now, though, since I've been reading and loving Rick Perlstein's Nixonland this week.)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 7 February 2009 20:43 (seventeen years ago)
(Didn't some alt-country type cover "Big City" recently too? If so, seems like the Hag LP of that name is maybe belatedly being acknowledged as the classic album it had always sounded like to me in the first place.)
I thought Peter Guralnick's discog in the back of Lost Highway was the reason why I bought a copy of Big City. But now that I'm looking at it I don't see the record mentioned. Strange. Anyways, I think it's a great record, and at some point in my life I remembering reading a review that inspired me to pick up a copy.
― QuantumNoise, Saturday, 7 February 2009 20:56 (seventeen years ago)
Big City probably fell victim to the hipster idea that no good country was made after Urban Cowboy was released. But maybe the '80s is being reevaluated. John Anderson and Randy Travis could become the next names for Americanians to start dropping.
― President Keyes, Saturday, 7 February 2009 21:14 (seventeen years ago)
Just picked up a vinyl copy of "Big City" for 5 bucks at a record store in Louisville. It really is great. That late 70's, early 80's period of his produced some of my favorite songs (Footlights, The Way I Am), but most of the albums are fairly inconsistent. "Big City" is the best of the bunch.
Also nabbed a copy of Waylon's "Are you Ready for the Country" which wasn't as satisfying, though the NY cover is pretty great.
― Moreno, Saturday, 7 February 2009 21:14 (seventeen years ago)
Early '60s folk revival sort of counts as country, right? A lot of overlap over the years, probably. Anyway, I got sent this vinyl LP two days ago called Songs Of Leaving on a Chicago label called Numerophon by this girl folk singer named Niela Miller, recorded in 1962 in NYC -- or really, by 2009 (even 1981, if not 1962) standards more like a vinyl EP, since it seems to clock in around 20 minutes for about 10 songs. The thing is on 150-gram vinyl, really thick and heavy; label looks like it would have been plastered on some old 78. Record cover cardboard is also super thick, made to look like some Folkways album from the '50s. Clever (and actually quite beautiful) marketing concept, I gotta admit -- maybe even smart, on an extremely small scale, since the idea I guess is to make physical product collectible in the age of mp3s. (Apparently this album is the first of a series on the label.)
Thing is, there's also music on the thing, and it's just....okay. Niela sings her (apparently mostly if not all original) blues-folk in a tone that strikes me as really proper and cautious, maybe a precursor of Joan Baez-type singing (never listened to enough Baez to know for sure) (maybe proto Janis Ian too?) -- basically, it's how you'd expect those iron-haired private-girls-school rich chicks in Animal House (also set in 1962) to sing. Played it back-to- back this morning with a couple of New Christy Minstrels LPs from around the same period (sent to me by Metal Mike a couple years ago), and Miller sounded completely strained and constrained and unenergetic and humorless in comparison (and the New Chistry Minstels didn't seem as good as the Kingston Trio or Limeliters, all of whom I'm guessing Miller's milieu would have dismissed as phonies and sellouts, though somebody correct me if I'm wrong.)
Still, I like the record okay -- especially "Goodbye New York," which has a tune and some bite to it plus a lyric I identify with right now, as my apartment fills up with boxes packed for my move. And (apparently the main justification for the reissue), there's also this song called "Baby Don't Go To Town" which the (Folkways-like) liner notes peg as a prototype of "Hey Joe" -- or, at least the song that was allegedly combined with Carl Smith's 1953 country hit "Hey Joe" to get the song that Hendrix and the Byrds and Leaves and Deep Purple and Cher later did. (Aside: Back at University of Missouri in the early '80s, I knew a guy -- otherwise a major fan of the Jam -- who collected on cassette tapes all the versions of "Hey Joe" he could get ahold of.) Supposedly Neila Miller's "unstable boyfriend" Billy Roberts stole her version, had it copywritten, and the rest is history. I'm skeptical about all of this, but it's a good story, either way. And there is a certain proto-garage-punk (post-blues) punch to the guitars in Miller's song. Or at least I imagine there is, so I can keep her cool looking record.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 7 February 2009 23:22 (seventeen years ago)
(Though when I say the novel marketing concept is potentially smart, I'm leaving out that I have no idea what it would cost to put out a record that looks like this one in 2009, with vinyl pressing plants supposedly shutting down and all. Looks expensive to my eyes, but what do I know? Also leaving out that, though the thing looks real classy on one hand, it's also obviously kind of ridiculous, which may or may not be part of the point.)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 7 February 2009 23:34 (seventeen years ago)
And probably the proto-garage part of how "Baby Don't Go To Town" sounds is just its guitar progression, which the liner notes identify as AMAJ (not that I'd know). And Niela might be as proto-"freak-folk" (or proto- the tuneless kind of '60s folkies that freak folkers gravitate toward now) as proto-Baez. And by "Miller's milieu," I guess I basically mean Dylan's -- she supposedly attended his West Village debut. But her backstory doesn't make her sound "authentic" at all: learned about folk music at summer camp in the Catskills while on vacation from the High School Of Music And Art in '48, became the promoter of folk music at "liberal Antioch College" in '52, dated a "black, Jewish and Communist folk singer," wrote "Too Long Blues" after an early boyfriend snubbed her for another gal at a Weavers gig in '53. I swear, the whole plot reads like a parody to me. I half expect the Beastie Boys to come out and start rapping about beatnik chicks just wearing their smocks.
But though I never thought of the folk revival this way before, it also all means that she was learning about the blues around the same time that all the (white) early rock'n'rollers were. Which is kind of cool, even if she wasn't nearly as good at it (and if ignoring rock'n'roll then makes her a total geek.)
(Also makes me wonder how much audience crossover there was between early '60s rock'n'roll and early '60s folk -- There must have been frat bros who bought both Beach Boys and Kingston Trio LPs at least, right? Both groups even kinda dressed alike.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 8 February 2009 01:47 (seventeen years ago)
Have always loved Iris Dement's version of Big City that she did for a Hag covers album called Tulare Dust. AMG tells me it came out in 1994. John Doe was on that one, too. And he was boring as I recall. But Tom Russell's version of Tulare Dust / Tearing the Labor Camps Down was fantastic. Sadly this type of Depression-inspired lyrics might get more real again.
― that's not my post, Sunday, 8 February 2009 02:41 (seventeen years ago)
Early '60s folk revival sort of counts as country, right? A lot of overlap over the years
I'm guessing Johnny Cash might count as the biggest overlap; he definitely had at least half a foot in folk (and not just because he did Dylan covers.) And now I find out that both Kenny Rogers and Kim Carnes (though not on the group's earliest LPs I have) were members of the New Christy Minstrels. And the better of their two albums I've got, Ramblin' Featuring Green Green (which charted #15 in Billboard in 1963) is all traveling and rambling songs, more country than I would have guessed though I have no idea whether country fans cared. That one has only two ballads or so out of a dozen mostly sprightly and catchy tracks; their debut Presenting the New Christy Minstrels from a year (and three albums) earlier feels a lot slower and less raucous, but does have their versions of "This Land Is Your Land" (apparently the highest charting version of the rock era at #93) and "Springfield Fair" (which Simon & Garfunkel later made much prettier and more exotic as "Scarborough Fair.") It's also got liner notes talking about how Edwin P. Christy founded his first group of traveling Minstrels way back in 1842, but these New ones don't wear blackface anymore. Randy Sparks, the leader, says too many folk groups from the time "sing too prettily and too delicately to transmit the message of folk music," so apparently he thought the New Christies were more raw and real compared to those groups. But they don't seem to have nearly as much tongue-in-cheek self-knowledge as did the Kingston Trio or Limeliters (both of whom first charted earlier -- Kingstons way back '58.) And they look totally square on the cover -- ten members, all really young and cleancut and maybe like they're part of a small-town theatre troupe. There was definitely at least one copy of one of their albums in my house growing up, though I have no idea whether it belonged to my mom or my dad.Still think Ramblin' is a good album, though.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 8 February 2009 17:47 (seventeen years ago)
I'm also gonna guess that most fans of both "real" folk-revival folk and fake commercial folk-revival folk at the time would've tended to vote for JFK. (Though who knows, maybe more radical real ones held their nose, wishing they could get away with voting Commie instead.) Not sure who my parents voted for.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 8 February 2009 17:58 (seventeen years ago)
Hey xhuxk, I wonder if you could address something that's been bothering me recently about folk. On one hand there's this 1960's-folk inspired contemporary folk (some of which you're mentioning here) and on the other there's freak-folk, or indie-folk, or whatever. And I tend to like a broad swath that cuts across both these groups, but I don't necessarily see huge differences between them. A lot of times the aesthetic difference is pretty superficial, and sometimes it's just a difference of community (if you live in NYC, maybe you're freak-folk, if you live in... I don't know... Nashville? Newport? you're "real folk"). So how do you distinguish this? And is it even worth wasting time on? Like Kathleen Edwards could easily be Joan Boaz/Neil Young inspired. And isn't she just a jump away from, say, Laura Marling? (Or Neko Case who, despite playing with New Pornographers, has a lot of solo music that sounds kin to the Newport folk movement?)
― Mordy, Sunday, 8 February 2009 18:05 (seventeen years ago)
There must have been frat bros who bought both Beach Boys and Kingston Trio LPs at least, right?
My dad had albums by both groups--though he never went to college.
― President Keyes, Sunday, 8 February 2009 18:39 (seventeen years ago)
xp Wow, Mordy, I swear you are the first person in history who has ever taken me to be a folk music expert. Not complaining -- I'm kind of flattered. But to be honest, I pay so little attention to current stuff (and despite my posts here yesterday and today, I've barely dabbled in the '60s stuff) to feel I can make useful distinctions. I had a hard enough to time making sense out of how "freak folk" mysteriously seemed to replace "anti folk" in New York a few years ago, and I've been bored by almost everything I've heard in both supposed genres. I've never heard a note by Laura Marling, and (like I said upthread), I've never given much attention to Neko Case, either. I guess I've always assumed the "freak folk" stuff is supposed to be somehow influenced by more acid-damaged music, psychedelia or noise or whatever? Which would theoretically make it weirder and more formless. (And old singers like Vashti Bunyan embraced by freak folk fans maybe sounded that way by accident?) Not sure how that holds up in reality, though. ("Anti-folk" was more NYC than "freak folk" though, wasn't it? I mean, doesn't the latter often have pretensions of being made by communal extended families in abandoned Vermont farm houses? Or did I just imagine that?)
Do think the music called "alt-country" as often as not has more in common with what I consider folk (or singer songwriters or whoever) than what I consider country, though. (But like I said, lots of overlap.)
And I do get the idea that Kathleen Edwards is less hookaphobic than, say, Joanna Newsom or whoever.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 8 February 2009 18:42 (seventeen years ago)
Hookaphobic?
― Mordy, Sunday, 8 February 2009 18:47 (seventeen years ago)
As in "afraid of hooks." (Just made it up. Don't know what took me so long.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 8 February 2009 18:56 (seventeen years ago)
the Numerophon thing is an imprint of Numero Group, the Chicago reissue label. (As I've mentioned earlier, they've reissued Caroline Peyton's fairly classic [and proto-"freak-folk"]) Mock Up on their Asterisk imprint, as well as the more dispersed Intuition [which contains one actual country tune, "Still with You," that falls in nicely with the eclecticism of the thing in gen'l]. And what about "Long Black Veil" and maybe even Roger Miller as sorta bridge between "folk" and "country" way before zillions of folkies did it in the wake of the Band after '68...?
― eddhurt, Sunday, 8 February 2009 19:02 (seventeen years ago)
I also figured out that Neko Case is basically K.D. Lang for a new generation, gets over on her Byootiful Voice and Ambiguo-Sex Appeal and that's cool, I guess I like Neko far better than I ever have Lang; both are undeniably first-rate singers.
― eddhurt, Sunday, 8 February 2009 19:05 (seventeen years ago)
I dunno about that, Edd; I've been denying Lang's ice-cold affectations for years. (Frank has too. Don't have the old issue of Radio On in front of me, but I think his line about k.d. went something like: "If this is torch, Sophie B. Hawkins is a conflagration, and Teena Marie is a holocaust.")
― xhuxk, Sunday, 8 February 2009 19:14 (seventeen years ago)
which old country acts those last couple are most associated with
"Cold Hard Facts Of Life" = Porter Wagoner; "Stop The World And Let Me Off" = Patsy Cline? Waylon Jennings? Dwight Yoakam? (Still not sure who had the biggest hit with it, though I guess they all did it.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 8 February 2009 19:37 (seventeen years ago)
xp Also get the idea it's possible (in response to Mordy) that, if Baez was obscure instead of famous, she could be an old freak-folk cult heroine.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 8 February 2009 19:53 (seventeen years ago)
I don't think Baez ever had enough of the "freak" in her. The freak folk heroine seems to be more of a cross between NorCal Joni knock offs and Brit folk ladies like Bunyan and Bridget St. John.
The aspect to Baez's career that I think gets overlooked is her country-folk phase in the late '60s and early '70s. She did a string of records with the same band that Dylan used during for John Wesley Harding and Nashville Skyline. Norm Blake is on guitar. I recently made a compilation CD-R of this stuff for a friend, who was skeptical that Baez could make anything other than terrible music. It's about 25 songs: Steve Young covers, "Long Black Veil," Gram Parsons tunes, The Band, some Stones, old Appalachian folk stuff with more twang than her early Newport stuff, and so on. It's not bad.
Another decent country/folk revival hybrid is the Great Speckled Bird LP from '68(?). That's Ian & Sylvia along with a bunch of stoner cowboys. The record features pedal steel player Buddy Cage, who is really quite good for a "longhair." Ian & Sylvia's previous records found them doing more and more country. Then again, maybe it's more of a Canadian prairie cowboy shtick.
― QuantumNoise, Sunday, 8 February 2009 20:53 (seventeen years ago)
well, Buffy Saint-Marie did records in Nashville on Vanguard, I think. I mean Ian and Sylvia did too, on Bearsville.
I wasn't saying I necessarily liked or even thought about K.D. Lang that much--my point was that she's a good singer and that's her claim to fame, her "great voice," just like Neko. and that there's a segment of the country audience--the NPR side--who might groove to Lang, Case or even that Bradley's Barn Mandy Barnett late-moment-of-countrypolitan record from '99, in terms of sheer aural quality and all that shit. But yeah, as Frank says, it's sort of a faltering-torch torch-music move, I mean bloodless, but I think you have to ask yourself if that kind of dryness and formalist western-mythos-swing shit isn't a part of country too.
Otis Gibbs' new one displays his ugly voice on songs that producer Chris Stamey turns into the veriest processed-mush country music--the steel says nothing, the strums received wisdom, the occasional pop move (major seventh chords on one that is sorta like "Everybody's Talkin'," another unacknowledged pop-folk dude wrote that, Fred Neil. Gibbs sounds honest, he's asleep in a truck stop, longs for his grandmamma's quilt and his baby's arms, sleeps on a rolled-up jacket. I don't really know why this supposed quality item was even made but it's relevant to our discussion of folk music, maybe he spent time writing these songs but the classiness of Stamey's production is sawdust-on-the-floor in every way and has zilch to do with anything I love about either folk or country music.
― whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 8 February 2009 21:23 (seventeen years ago)
and yeah, the new Dierks ended up boring me; likely "Lot of Leavin' Left" will be the template for the kind of truckin' pothead music he's good at and everything else is more or less useless, unless you wanna hear about his Lady. I still like the idea of Dierks and am trying to think of folks who do the bluegrass-jam-rock move better. Well I mean the Byrds invented this shit on Untitled which is a shitty Byrds record even with Clarence White, whose licks can't even save a lot of that later Byrd-shit (the live Albert Hall reissue a case in point).
Been able to peek into the forthcoming Those Darlins record. Not what I woulda expected, more pop and abstract ('60s Beatles and '70s Nick Lowe moments), pretty good. Anyone else hear or see this group of young girls from Alabama, the Bridges, last time out? (Opened some shows for Matthew Sweet late last yr.) They yell out some stuff in unison and smell like apricot face scrub, real cute.
― whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 8 February 2009 21:30 (seventeen years ago)
Last Sunday the NYT did a long piece on whatshername and The Heartless Bastards' new record. So the LA Times assigned someone to imitate it and that ran wednesday or thursday. So what does what'shername and the Heartless Bastards sound like? Because I can't trust either newspaper's entertainment writing, particularly the latter's because it was doing kneejerk us-too-ism.
In theory, it sounded almost like something worth investigating. But the quacking about country and roots for indie rock fans and what'shername (Erika Wennerstrom) admitting she might not be such a good guitar player raised two stop signs.
Here's the NYT copy:
http://www.iht.com/articles/2009/02/02/arts/heartless.1-417498.php
― Gorge, Sunday, 8 February 2009 21:34 (seventeen years ago)
Frank on Whatshername and the Heartless Bastards (plus another rootsty Ohio rock band, the Tough & Lovely) in 2005, back when there was a Village Voice. (Of the two bands, he liked the Bastards more at the time; I preferred the Tough & Lovely myself, though I might reconsider if I relistened now):
http://www.villagevoice.com/2005-08-23/music/can-t-buy-a-frill/
I heard one track off the new Bastards album late last year -- called "The Mountain" or something -- and thought it had a decent Crazy Horse style guitar climb to it, but that they still lacked something in the rhythm and singing departments. Not bad for an indie-rock band; not great for a blues-rock band.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 8 February 2009 21:48 (seventeen years ago)
(Though, right, it's not like Wennerstrom's guitaring is going to blow you away, either. Or her tunes, from my experience. Or her live show, judging from the just-okay one I say in Manhattan a few years back. Though apparently she's got a new rhythm section since then, and since Frank's review; guess it's possible that the new album's a leap forward.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 8 February 2009 22:05 (seventeen years ago)
"...tries to make a virtue of sartorial paralysis..." Hmmm, perfect for NPR, though, right?
The descriptions remind of the other What'shername (Jesse Sykes?) & the Sweet Hereafter who kind of sounded like Crazy Horse, too. But someone paid me fifty dollars (or maybe more, I forget) to say that and it's not like anyone really wanted to hear something that accurately sounded like classic rock.
Anyway, the LAT article made out that production on the Heartless Bastards had gone through an upgrade with people adding shit that normally the band wouldn't have been able to play, which was what Frank seemed to be driving at.
― Gorge, Sunday, 8 February 2009 22:34 (seventeen years ago)
Neila Miller's "Mean World Blues" is a song that been rotating on my headbox for nigh on twenty year, or however long it's been since I started listening to Dave Van Ronk's No Dirty Names. Somebody gets up and leaves, at their own chosen speed, balancing on an implied bass line, rope ladder, "Well, I'm goin', goin' away baby, and don't, you follow me," words about the mean world curl around before she disappears, "You're blind now, baby you can't see." Some kind of very quiet implosion in somebody's life, in the fog around Van Ronk's searchlight melisma. Could well imagine Mingus playing this (and for a while, he billed himself as folk), the wispy melody evaporating in some waterfront tenor sax. As it is, we just get Dave's limited but evocative voice and guitar, as on the rest of this LP, and what a resource he was, a gateway drug, for those (incl Bobby Z., future D., and AKA Elston Gunn, with the Golden Chords and Shadow Blasters in Hibbing High, before he lifted Paul Nelson's record collection and played piano for Bobby Vee)finding their way past genteel purists and bland hitseekers alike. Anyway, that's the only way I know, Neila, always wondered about her, and requested the promo a while back; if it's bad, too bad. Even putting "authenticity" in quotes, though, I don't get then making fun of her for not being born in the blues under a cabbage leaf at the end of Tobacco Road. Anti-folk seemed more polemical, incl sexual politics of a night flashingly hinted at; freak folk is like paisley cottage/college industry, working from Donovan and Fahey and getting better sometimes when it twines around ye olde bass trombone etc from high school. Doe's made some good solo albums, once he figured out how to sing in a way that didn't make it all too concise and too clear that Exene ain't hear--although sometimes she does turn up on his albums (as do other duet partners, like his daughter), and some of the X live reunion tapes I've heard ain't bad. Haven't heard the tracks mentioned recently, so dunno. K.D. and Neko sound pretty warm to me, "sheer aural quality and all that shit" aside. They're not as deep as they'd like to be, but it's just as well.
― dow, Sunday, 8 February 2009 23:30 (seventeen years ago)
Don's correct of course when he says my guffawing at Neila Miller's upper-end Liberal Arts inauthenticity is totally unfair (and also that it has nothing to do with how good or bad her music was -- and as I said, her music doesn't seem that bad); just me being kneejerk, I guess. And I may be setting up a strawman in assuming that folkies "like" Miller (whatever that means) would have in turn looked down their noses at the inauthenticity of Kingston Trio/New Christys etc. Maybe they wouldn't have. If anybody knows the truth, I'd be curious what it is.
Speaking of Donovan, I posted what's below on an old thread about him a couple days ago, but either nobody noticed or nobody cared. Here 'tis again:
Okay, this is going to sound retarded, but I've been hearing the song "Sunshine Superman" all my life and I never realized what it was until this morning. (A next-door neighboor had given me the album with that title in a pile of other used LPs two years ago, and I never got around to listening to it til now. I always knew Donovan did a song with that name; just never associated it with the song that goes "when I make my mind up you're going to be mine" and "Superman and Green Lantern ain't got nothin on me" etc. Not sure who else I thought did it; guess I never wondered one way or the other. And never really checked out Donovan much at all, even though the person I'm married to is named after one of his songs. Anyway, the album -- which also has "Season of the Witch," which I've always loved -- is good. A lot better than the *Wear Your Love Like Heaven* LP, which the same neighbor gave me, but which I thought was boring since Donovan's voice didn't seem pretty enough to support its tweeness, even though he's quite possibly inventing the genre.)
Husker Du covered "Sunshine Superman" once, right? Don't think I've ever actually heard that, either.
― xhuxk, Monday, 9 February 2009 15:48 (seventeen years ago)
Not that there isn't some good comedy in a mighty windy and pretty fly for a blue kid playin the whites, to approximate a Sonny Terry & Brownie McGhee title, and Jules Feiffer and Lenny Bruce made something of that whole strange era (per yout mini-history of Neila, let's put it between Democrats vs.Dixeicrats re the Civil Rights plank of '48, and Civil Rights Act of '64). And Bobby D. made something of it too, of his and Mr. Jones' ("Everytime I say 'you' I mean 'I'") inauthenticity/culture trek. He's also made something valid of reversing that course in the last twenty-five years or so, getting back into the Heritage of folk-blues-country-jazz, crucially personalized of course, and he's earned his place next to Jimmie Rodgers etc, if that's where he wants to settle in (still with some funky zingers at his old lady and "mind of a DJ," to cop Frank's apt phrase; whether lifting the needle from Thought Two to Four, or adapting lines from a Confederate laureate, etc, before becoming an actual radio DJ--will he end up doing that in clubs?)
― dow, Monday, 9 February 2009 16:54 (seventeen years ago)
Oh yeah, and Butthole Surfers did a good version of "Hurdy Gurdy Man"--was it Page on the original, or Beck? I gotta get some more Donovan from that era--seems like he actually briefly formed (? there were publicity pix, anyway) a proto-psych-folk-rock combo, the Open Road...? Always liked the waltz and first verse of "Sunny Goodge Street": On the firefly platform of sunny Goodge Street/A violent hash eater shakes a chocolate machine/Involved in an eating scene..." Although his observations could slide into unedited bliss, like the bit later in there about the magician (Spoiler Alert! "His name is Love, Love Love") Nice jazzy flow though ("Mingus mellow fantastic" though Mingus was famous for being pretty violent too, at least insofar as he had to shake your bourgie machine)("had" re artistic frustrations and some, incl. Mingus, judging by quotes in Priestley's bio) came to expect it as part of his show). Also good tourism in "Mexico", incl watching the sun go down while "the simple act of an oar's stroke put diamonds in the sea" and "Microscopic circles in the fluid of my sight" and "Watching the black-eyed native girl/Cut and trim the lamp/Valentino vamp/In Mexico." But "Young Girl Blues" scared me in high school--he knew a lot more about girls in that song than I ever would (but also I could relate to what his subject was privately going through, and those two impressions made a very unsettling combination)
― dow, Monday, 9 February 2009 17:14 (seventeen years ago)
xhuxk, you're probably keying in on the Micky Most-produced Donovan. "Hurdy Gurdy Man" was, indeed, Page on guitar and probably the rest of Led Zep (sans Plant) backing. Hurdy Gurdy Man -- the album -- is patchy, some of it way twee. Barabajagal had Jeff Beck on it but you don't see that so much in stores, anymore. "Atlantis" has always been a fave among hard rockers and psychedelic types.
― Gorge, Monday, 9 February 2009 17:42 (seventeen years ago)
Haven't made it to the early '60s folkie discussion Xhuxk promises is at the end of this thread, but I just watched the video for Jamie O'Neal's "Like A Woman" that Xhuxk recommends above and I swear in the middle of it I kept thinking of Shontelle's "T-Shirt" - an r&b song that isn't as good as its premise, which is that she's lonely without him and she can't get herself to get dressed up and go out so she's lying around wearing nothing but his T-shirt, hence a song that can be simultaneously wistful and salacious - so I keep expecting the women in the Jamie O'Neal vid (middle of the day, their respective men are off at work, they wishing the men back) to start changing into his clothes...
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 9 February 2009 19:55 (seventeen years ago)
Agree that Sarah Buxton's "Space" is excellent; the best song I've heard of hers is "Stupid Boy," which Keith Urban turned into a hit but her version is as good as his. Her rasp can be alternately - or simultaneously - cute and cutting. Likable, though not quite as good, is "That Kind Of Day," where all these little things go wrong so she grabs her credit card: "When times are tough it's time to shop."
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 9 February 2009 20:10 (seventeen years ago)
Xhuxk, I didn't have any Chad Mitchell Trio records to tape when I was putting all those old Kingston Trio songs on cassette for you back in the '90s, but the Chad Mitchell Trio were definitely getting a lot of play on the Frank & Richard Kogan record player 1963-1964. Here's a clip from the Bell Telephone Hour with them accompanied by an instrumentalist who went onto greater fame. They also did a lot of political satire that was no doubt considered unsafe for television:
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 9 February 2009 21:33 (seventeen years ago)
The only version of "Baby Don't Go To Town" I can find on YouTube is this one by Doc Pitman and son, who say that they've inserted their own lyrics. I like it, though its chord pattern and some of its lyrics are basically "I Wish I Was A Mole In The Ground" rather than "Hey Joe." Does anyone know who first recorded a song with the "Hey Joe" chord pattern, since I haven't heard any records made previous to whatever the first recorded version of "Hey Joe" is (Love? The Byrds? The Seeds? all of whose recorded versions predate Tim Rose's or Jimi Hendrix's recorded versions, the latter two following the "Billy Roberts" template, the former three the "Dino Valenti," who probably taught it to the Byrds). I have of course heard the chord pattern subsequently, Deep Purple's "Hush," for instance.
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 9 February 2009 21:44 (seventeen years ago)
But her backstory doesn't make her sound "authentic" at all: learned about folk music at summer camp in the Catskills while on vacation from the High School Of Music And Art in '48, became the promoter of folk music at "liberal Antioch College" in '52, dated a "black, Jewish and Communist folk singer," wrote "Too Long Blues" after an early boyfriend snubbed her for another gal at a Weavers gig in '53. I swear, the whole plot reads like a parody to me.
Well, the plot is dead-on accurate for the milieu that propelled the "folk" craze in the '50s and early '60s, so in that sense it's very authentic, the very kids who glommed onto the music of a couple of decades back from Appalachia and the Southeast.
I'd say, though, that the music they fixed on doesn't altogether match up with the country music of the '20s and '30s, or the blues; I don't know enough music theory to identify the difference, exactly, but the "folk" music tended more towards the minor key (or suppressing the "mi" note of the chord altogether) and the black-derived music tended more to sound like what I'd vaguely call "spirituals." Someone like Edd could probably be more accurate and articulate as to what I'm trying to say, that is if he's clairvoyant enough to know what I'm trying to put into words.
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 9 February 2009 21:57 (seventeen years ago)
I know Love did "Hey Joe" at around the exact same time the Byrds did it. A lot of early Love is "Hey Joe" anyway. I think what Frank's getting at is the whole sadness trip of the blues as "folk expression" of good liberal blacks for good liberal blacks, and occasionally a criminal like Leadbelly sneaked in there. They had a hard time telling apart commercial and "folk-expression" African-American music--nothing was more money-oriented than gospel music, because look at the great tightwad soul men if you don't believe me. James Brown, the Womack Brothers, Sam Cooke, Aretha herself. The big-time world of gospel music. I haven't heard Neila yet. I understand it's from an acetate that was warped and the sound quality isn't great. I'd have to hear the "Hey Joe" template to make a judgment on that, but it sounds just like the "Louie Louie" template. "Hey Joe"'s definitive version is Hendrix', because he had the best rearranged folk thing happening.
― whisperineddhurt, Monday, 9 February 2009 22:47 (seventeen years ago)
So I have an important question. Is there actually any "rockabilly" on that Plant/Krauss album that won all those Grammys last night (the parts of which I've heard were reverent to the point of drabness, with not even enough oomph to be called bluegrass), or was the NY Times headline writer this morning lying? (Hell, "Hot Dog" by Zeppelin sounds more rockabilly than anything I've heard off that album. Not to mention that Honeydrippers EP, maybe. How come the Grammy jokers never gave that one an award? Wasn't it like the biggest selling EP ever?)
Pretty good country performances on the show: Carrie Underwood and (separately) Kid Rock (the beginning of whose medley I missed -- need to check it out on youtube) were so country that they were hard rock. And I swear Miley outsang (outdrawled, whatever) Taylor on their nice "Fifteen" duet. (Loved Lil Wayne w/ the Dirty Dozen Brass Band + Alan Toussaint and M.I.A. with lots of less pregnant rappers, too. And thought Katy Perry's fruit suit and Thom Yorke dancing wackily to the U.S.C. "Tusk" band were a whole lot more entertaining than Kenny Chesney's and Sugarland's boring ballads, the latter of which actually improved but not by that much when Lisa Stansfield I mean Adele came out to help. Did think Jennifer Nettles' award acceptance speech was adorable, however. And while like everybody else I feel sorry for Jennifer Hudson's family tragedy -- and my wife liked her outfit -- I'll be damned if I can understand how anybody can not find her singing a perfect time to take a bathroom break. Thought that during the Super Bowl too, for what it's worth.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 01:49 (seventeen years ago)
the tapes Frank mentions above also schooled me on the Limeliters, and Kingston Trio's "C.T.A," in which the narrator seems to be singing this little song to himself he sings every morning while commuting, kidding the folk-saga-for/of-white-dayjob-folkies or fans of folkies, deflating himself just a little for perspective's sake (can't go postal when he gets to the jobsite, miles to go and promises to keep), but also sounds kinda proud of himself--it's his own saga after all! And his workadaddy comrades' too.
― dow, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 04:37 (seventeen years ago)
And if it's more folkies ye be wantin', here they (don't)blow (judging by the music I was sent, but they do have a shipload):Great Big Sea hail from Newfoundland, with full-sail harmonies that don't obscure the gnarlier details of their traditional and original ballads. On GBS's latest album, "Fortune's Favor," Alan Doyle and co-writer Russell Crowe raise their tankards to the iconoclastic comedy icon Bill Hicks, celebrating "A Company of Fools." In "Hard Case," a siren gets a booty call: "Hold me down/Under the sea/Drag me back to where we used to be." Folkwise, especially live, they can lead us through the hungry shadows, reeling around those old choruses.
― dow, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 04:47 (seventeen years ago)
More country-folk vinyl fetishism, from the buy-that-for-a-dollar thread. The band in question covers George and Tammy's "The Grand Tour" as well as "Jolene," but on first lesson, I'm liking their restrained and way too quiet attempt at an old-timey backporch drone even less than the Neila Miller EP. I want to like them, though (at least enough to justify keeping this nifty disc), so somebody please explain them to me. (They had something of a rock critic following at one point, as I recall; think they even finished Top 40 Pazz & Jop once):
$2, thrift store, 46th and Queens Blvd, Sunnyside, today:
The Geraldine Fibbers Get Thee Gone (Sympathy For The Record Industry 10-inch EP, c. '90s I guess)
An extravagance, since I am a total fetishizing sucker when it comes to 10-inch EPs (even though it is impossible to find inner sleeves). Plus I've never liked anything by these '90s indie art roots nerds before (not that I've listened much), and why would this be any different? But I used to be (very) mildly curious about the Fibbers, and I figure, if I'm ever going to like anything by them, this'd be about the correct amount of songs. Plus they cover Dolly's "Jolene" on it; how bad could that be? (Pretty bad, but I'll probably keep it anyway.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 9 February 2009 19:19
This record sounds like a frog being choked while someone laboriously puts a guitar out of tune, but I love it; only thing I ever liked by them. Bought it when it came out & would buy a nearly infinite number for $2 each, or half of infinity for $4/ea. It was around the time of Uncle Tupelo's breakup and we were all looking for a new hip alternative country act. Didn't find it; found a choking frog. Still!
― staggerlee, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 01:54
I just have to put in a good word here for the Fibbers' two proper albums, the 1st of which is a favorite of mine.
― sleeve, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 02:14
Posters on that thread also offered helpful advice about inner and outer sleeves for 10-inches, but I'll leave that stuff there.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 15:48 (seventeen years ago)
so I kinda dig old Marianne Faithfull covering Dolly's great "Down from Dover," even tho she sing like a frog--a once-beautiful frog but a frog and who say older wimmen don't still have it? The sonics are VERY good, and you know, I decry sonics and all that shit but of course, I am that sucker, totally.
Dug Carrie U. on Grammys--very sexy and good. Keith backin' up Al Green was interesting, but Al still cuts all those kind of singers, even Timberlake who is actually from (east) Memphis. The Toussaint thing--was that "Whirlaway" or what he played, gotta look it up--was amazing. I really like Lil' Wayne.
Raising Sand has always underwhelmed me; as Caroline points out, Alison outsings Plant by a mile and she wondered if they were playing hide-the-salami on tour? they seem close. anyway, I thought that their take on the Everlys' great "Gone Gone Gone" was underwhelming. I mean OK, folk minimalism and great song choices; but the Everlys' own version of "Gone Gone Gone" is heartbroke, brilliant super-pop of a level unimaginable today and so Raising Sand is just this year's Quality Item that has bored more than a few of the folks who took it home, unless you know the originals then seems to me that frission dissapates. Robert Plant would like to be a combination of Gene Clark and Arthur Lee but instead it just turned out to be another duets thing and exercise in good taste. But for the Grammys, it was pretty stripped-down and that was the point of it I guess, the contrast.
― whisperineddhurt, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 18:35 (seventeen years ago)
Ah, Marianne--was worried when I heard she had breast cancer and then no more news for the past year, so even if the new album ain't so hot, glad she's still at it. transition: Shel Silverstein's "Ballad of Lucy Jordan" was a highlight of her great Broken English, and: Just finished Lisa Rogak's epic (but not too long) Silverstein bio, A Boy Named Shel. From working class Chicago in the 30s, to Korean War Asia (already peripetatic cartooning chronicler for Pacific Stars & Stripes)back to Chicago and dropping cartoons off at the probably gone-tomorrow office of young Playboy, which soon took off and sent him globetrotting again, when he wasn't hitting the beatnik folkie scenes in Old Town and Greenwich Village; later adding his pads and milieu in Sausilito's houseboat community, Martha's Vineyard, Nashville and Key West (but he could show up anywhere anytime, on yout doorstep, corner cafe or used bookstore, to work and/or play together--and when he was bored, he was gone in a flash). It's all about working and playing hard, cos that's what he was all about, and creatively as possible, in his own sometimes irasible (or axiomatically challenging) way. Lots of great comments from friends and collaborators (Bobby Bare, David Mamet, etc, etc)Some intriguing mentions on robertchristgau.com, but the only albums I've got are the collaborations with Pat Dailey in that Daily show preview I posted, and one with Fred Koller, and an expanded reissue of Where The Sidewalk Ends, which I haven't listened to yet. Any other recommendations,as far as his own albums, songs for/with others,the books?
― dow, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 18:50 (seventeen years ago)
"Ballad of Lucy" shows up on Bare's neo-politan The Moon Was Blue. dunno a lot about him otherwise, should check out the bio. His country cousin has to be, though, John D. Loudermilk...
― whisperineddhurt, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 18:53 (seventeen years ago)
The author describes a lot of albums (and books and plays and a screenplay collab with Mamet). But she doesn't really evaluate them, other than how he perceived/presented 'em and reviewers and others reacted, and how they figured in his career, incl his and his team's experience during the projects--without getting endlessly detailed. A couple of sites she lists, that I need to check: (she doesn't list the whole URL, so possible might not be a www. in one or both of these) Carol's Banned Width banned-width.com and Sarah Weinman's Shel Silverstein Archive shelsilverstein.tripod.com
― dow, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 02:45 (seventeen years ago)
Turns out, at least on that EP, the Geraldine Fibbers are not always totally quiet; like Scott Seward is already telling me, you just have to turn the sound up. Carla Bozulich's croak is indeed very flat (I swear I usually think it's a guy singing, but she's got the only credited vocals), but they halfway pull off the death waltzes of "Outside Of Town" and "Mary" (about someone's pretty face going to hell) anyway, and I like the folk-drone break in the middle of "Get Thee Gone." "The Grand Tour" doesn't work at all, but "Jolene" sorta does (seems weird, again, because it sounds like a man telling Jolene not to take his man), and makes me wonder whether it didn't somehow inspire White Stripes, who covered it five years later on the same record label (the Fibbers EP's from 1994, apparently their debut set if I'm reading their Wiki discography right.) Also, "Blue Cross" is apparently a Beck song, and not one of the better tracks. Still, I was right -- seven songs is all I'll ever want by these people.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 16:02 (seventeen years ago)
found for $5.00 at Grimey's: Haggard twofer, The Way I Am and Back to the Barrooms. Exquisitely sung with some real blues in there--great guitar playing, concentrated licks--and the amazing "Sky-Bo," a ridiculous song worthy of a bad Elvis movie that Haggard sings the shit out of and makes totally convincing, another country song about success that moves from Phoenix to Shreveport in 3/4 time.
― whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 16:51 (seventeen years ago)
A short list of Citizen Band radio songs, in case anybody needs one: C.W. McCall "Convoy"; Cledus Maggard and the Citizen's Band "White Knight"; Rod Hart "C.B. Savage"; Gunter Gabriel "Ich Bin C.B.-Funker"; MX-80 Sound "PCB's"; the Fall "I'm Into CB."
Not aware of any by Dave Dudley, Dick Curless, or Red Sovine, but I sure wouldn't put it past them.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 19:24 (seventeen years ago)
Dave Dudley's '76 "Me and Ole C.B." as Dave says in his own defense of his calling:
Check out my new "American Trucker" CD and find out exactly what I think about the enemies of these here United States of America on "You Ain't Gonna Truck With Us" and "Don't Mess With U.S. Truckers."
― whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 19:36 (seventeen years ago)
Cyndi Boste, a great Australian country-folk-blues etc singer-songwriter, responds to query: "Yes it is horrific what has been happening in our little State down south. Over 200 killed in one afternoon and they're still counting the dead. I can't tell you how eerie it was. 47 degree heat (she mean C or F?) with 100km notherly winds and a landscape bone dry and ready to burn for years. You could sense death in the air upon waking. We were all prepared for a dark day, but I don't think anyone possibly expected it to be so bad. I have only recently moved out of Melbourne and to the countryside myself. I now live in the middle of a State forest! Fortunately it hasn't come our way yet, but no-one is taking any chances and we have all learnt very valuable lessons from the tragedy of others. We won't stay and fight...we'll just grab the animals (maybe my guitar if there's time) and get the hell out...We've got another 6 weeks or so to wait this out, so there'll be a situation of 'high alert' for all of our remaining summer, which now tends to go into March. No such thing as climate change huh?" I wrote about her music here: http://www.villagevoice.com/2001-05-01/music/alias-in-wonderland/
― dow, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:00 (seventeen years ago)
Glam jeepster Leanne Kingwell also responds: "I've been head down in the studio making new music, so I didn't know much about it until it was well under way. The fires are burning at least 100 miles away from the city and wrecking beautiful small villages and countryside, not to mention killing a lot of people and animals. But ya know what...it sure puts the 'global financial apocalypse' into perspective. Everyone is rallying around those affected. Lots of donations, benefit concerts, volunteer work, stuff like that, really reaffirms one's faith." About her music here: http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0627,allred,73762,22.html
― dow, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:10 (seventeen years ago)
xgau on the grammys:
http://www.najp.org/articles/2009/02/live-blogging-the-grammys.html
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 22:01 (seventeen years ago)
Euler just started a keith whitley thread, though I wish he would have asked this question here instead:
Keith Whitley
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 23:14 (seventeen years ago)
I thought Keith deserved a thread of his own, though I'd be happy to talk about him here too.
― Euler, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 23:23 (seventeen years ago)
Am listening to Miranda Lee Richards on her MySpace because MySpace is pushing her and I thought from her name she could be country. She lists herself as "Other / Folk / Pop." The actual sound is pale elocution-school singer-songwriter pop with an overlay of psychodepression. Mediocre, if even that.
Dierks Bentley's "Feel That Fire" single rises to 32 on the Hot 100, the first country song not by Taylor to crack the Top 40 in two months.
― Frank Kogan, Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:01 (seventeen years ago)
Red Sovine's "Teddy Bear" is definitely a CB-radio song; won't tell you the plot so you can experience it for yourself.
― Frank Kogan, Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:20 (seventeen years ago)
Chad Mitchell Trio did Shel Silverstein's "The Hip Song" about a guy who was so hip he was square (the gag being that his lingo was hipster to such a degree that no one could make sense of what he was saying).
― Frank Kogan, Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:25 (seventeen years ago)
Heard on the news that it did indeed get up to 47 degrees Celsius in Victoria, which is about 117 degrees Fahrenheit.
― Frank Kogan, Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:31 (seventeen years ago)
Interesting country-song chart movement this week (anybody know what "Wild At Heart" by Gloriana is?); especially note that intriguing debut at #60. (Wonder which stations are actually playing it...)
26 34 2 Shuttin' Detroit Down, John Rich J.Rich (J.Rich,J.D.Anderson ) Warner Bros. DIGITAL | WRN | 26 41 38 38 16 Space, Sarah Buxton S.Buxton (S.Buxton,C.Cannon,L.White ) Lyric Street PROMO SINGLE | 38 46 47 43 11 Like A Woman, Jamie O'Neal R.Good (J.O'Neal,S.Bentley,J.Femino ) 1720 PROMO SINGLE | 43 53 56 57 3 Blue Jeans And A Rosary, Kid Rock Kid Rock,R.Cavallo (R.J.Ritchie,M.Young ) Top Dog/Atlantic PROMO SINGLE | CO5 | 53 54 55 55 3 Wild At Heart, Gloriana M.Serletic (M.Serletic,J.Kear,S.Bentley ) Emblem PROMO SINGLE | New Revolution | 54 60 NEW 1 High Cost Of Living, Jamey Johnson The Kent Hardley Playboys (J.Johnson,J.T.Slater ) Mercury DIGITAL | 60
― xhuxk, Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:50 (seventeen years ago)
From the publicity sheet for the Martina McBride's forthcoming Shine:
In order to dig deep into that creativity, she teamed up with chart-topping producer and virtuoso guitarist, Dann Huff. Admittedly, she struggled to find inspiration on some of her latest releases, but co-producing with someone new forced McBride out of her comfort zone and re-lit the fire within.
...
Ten months later, she is releasing an album not categorized necessarily as a departure, but certainly something fresh and innovative.
― Frank Kogan, Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:53 (seventeen years ago)
I listened to that Miranda Lee Richards album a bunch actually. I wouldn't call it country tho. If anything, I hear a closer parallel to someone like Vanessa Carlton (piano-based female singer-songwriter pop).
― Mordy, Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:55 (seventeen years ago)
117 degrees in Victoria! And Cyndi says they've prob got six more weeks of the danger zone.
― dow, Friday, 13 February 2009 00:22 (seventeen years ago)
Looks like Gloriana do four-part (two boys/two girls) harmonies, not unlike Little Big Town. Studio version of this song (also hearable on youtube, with less to watch) seems to have a drum-machine-like semblance of near-Diddley-glam beat underneath. As of now, I'm officially on the fence about it:
Not on the fence at all about Justin Moore's "Small Town USA" (followup to the country "Back That Azz Up"), the CD single of which came in the mail today. Not John Cougar enough, and your usual bullshit cliches about small-town living in its lyrics. Dude, the rule from here on: No meth labs, no credibility.
― xhuxk, Friday, 13 February 2009 03:13 (seventeen years ago)
Lady Antebellum got nominated this yr for best new group, and maybe in one other category? Sugarland were breathless playing same show with Sir Paulie. I wish they'd done "Mother Nature's Son" or something that would've showed the link with country; I don't see why Sir Paul and Linda Thompson shouldn't make a duets record, an English version of Raising Sand. Did I mention I actually loved Sugarland, that guy is so anonymous but so essential to Jennifer, who is a very good-looking person and seems sorta genuine.
Well, Eric Church sounds smarmy, his vocals, and what I hear here is lack of detail. He idealizes his stay-at-home wife as he tussles with the road and loads up the bong, and the level of musical detail here isn't bad, but every song casts him as this everyman, and he also just sounds like bullshit, in the sense of fake piety, a lot of the time. However, he certainly can write and I did get off on the groovy changes and sonic shit on a couple. Little Feat lives, sort of, and I submit that these old boys, who never lose their accents but get their business degrees early and and gonna make it, and who can write some, and say, in the end, something interesting about a certain kind of Southern male, can be mighty interesting. But Carolina is like eating a spaghetti-and-Wal Mart French bread dinner, made by fervent Baptists. It sounds off to me, like Church is trying to hard, working the dualities rather grossly, I dunno. I like the rock and roll and it's writerly, and some great slide guitar, but the whole thing bugs me a little.
This Spidrift record is like early Beefheart, Kaleidoscope, Love, and so forth, and certainly fits into the country-folk equation. The West.
― whisperineddhurt, Saturday, 14 February 2009 18:18 (seventeen years ago)
I mean, maybe it's like going to Chili's when they renovated it and settling for a burger, but you want Chipotle sauce on the side. Ten years ago nobody in Kannopolis, N.C. knew about Chipotle but now it's on fucking everything at Chili's (as in the one in Chattanooga, the only thing open in that town after 9:30). Now everybody knows about Lowell George or something, he's the Chipotle. Or the Band. The old-time stuff that's been merging with country for years, along with glam-rock and all the rest. Anyway, I do think Church tries too hard and I detect an annoying, arrogant tone to his pieties that, as I said, bugs me. And the only thing he writes about is that Baptist duality, and being on the road, and being a regular guy and all that, except in that one song he's just a little different, the kind of cool biz major who smokes a lotta dope and maybe even goes in for a sidecar just to make a little spare change now and then.
― whisperineddhurt, Saturday, 14 February 2009 18:24 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, I can hear all that stuff Edd mentions in the Spindrift album (which he may well like more than me); compared it to some other bands here, though (toward the bottom of a bunch of louder reviews):
http://blog.rhapsody.com/2009/01/science-faxtion-living-on-another.html
― xhuxk, Sunday, 15 February 2009 03:25 (seventeen years ago)
if Spindrift were only as (half as) good as Pere Ubu on "30 Seconds over Tokyo." I found it diverting, that's about it, and really do wish folks would stop comparing rock bands to Morricone. I've been listening to Morricone (as much as you can listen to it; Bernard Hermann beats him, altho I do find Morricone's bossa stuff amusing), and so I think such comparisons are way off the point. And I think that the 2 Area Code 615 albums are quite possibly among the most prescient of all time, especially the second one, Trip in the Country, 1970. Their exotico-overall-pocket-with-weed-innit hillbilly-new-age shit got Morricone, or Spindrift, beat by a city mile...
― whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 15 February 2009 17:25 (seventeen years ago)
The Area Code 415 twofer is a calmly wild ride, an almost overwhelming slide across one disc (thanks so much for that, Edd!)Posted about it on the Psych Country thread. I dig Kaliedoscope too (the ones from Cali, never heard the UK's).
― dow, Sunday, 15 February 2009 17:52 (seventeen years ago)
Area Code 615 that is. Kaliedoscope are the ones who were in the 415 area, rat?
― dow, Sunday, 15 February 2009 17:55 (seventeen years ago)
or Kaleidoscope, mebbe...
― dow, Sunday, 15 February 2009 17:57 (seventeen years ago)
Keaton Simons' LA pop hints at both Jellyfish (on "Good Things Get Better") and maybe Jules and Polar Bears elsewhere, and a bit of Keith Urbanism in there too. Fairly anonymous, though, despite or perhaps because of Connections the press kit trumpets, which are fairly minor LA too. Sententious but listenable, and if he sang with an accent he might make it out here in Nashville. As on "Misfits," which I don't think is by Ray Davies.
― whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 15 February 2009 18:47 (seventeen years ago)
and, if anyone's in the Nashville area on Sat., March 7, ol' pothead Ray Price (great anecdote in the new Willie bio about Ray having to buy back his repoed bus in order to get at some stash within) will talk to Eddie Stubbs about his career, Hank Sr., and so forth. Also that nite, at Ernest Tubb Midnite Jam, a tribute featuring Price and Bobby Bare (Sr.), to Hank's steel player, the late Don Helms. Should be cool. Planning to catch Isbell and co. Monday in town and sit down with him to chat.
― whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 15 February 2009 18:51 (seventeen years ago)
the Stubbs/Price is at Ford Theatre at Country Music Hall of Fame, 5th Ave. S., Nashville, btw...2 p.m. Sat., March 7.
― whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 15 February 2009 18:52 (seventeen years ago)
if Spindrift were only as (half as) good as Pere Ubu on "30 Seconds over Tokyo." I found it diverting, that's about it, and really do wish folks would stop comparing rock bands to Morricone.
Totally agree about Spindrift; hope I didn't imply that either they or their song comes anywhere near touching the level of Ubu or Ubu's song (or Sabbath or Sabbath's song, for that matter); and right, their album is mildly diverting at best -- not a keeper, even for somebody like me who got it for free, so caveat emptor. As for comparing rock bands to Morricone, yeah, I guess it's kind of a cliche; also, obviously shorthand, since only a fraction of the tracks on those four or so spaghetti western soundtracks (which are obviosuly only a fraction of Morricone's work, which I've never gotten much out of otherwise) sound how people mean when they say some rock song "sounds spaghetti western." So I see Edd's point, I think, but it really doesn't bug me much (and I'll probably continue to say some songs sound spaghetti western now and then regardless.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 15 February 2009 22:27 (seventeen years ago)
Anybody remember the music in the Westerns Eastwood first directed? He took a different approach, which I kinda prefer to most of Leone's big sky horse operas, though I love Morricone's music (much more encompassing than most of what it's commonly compared to, though I get the similar vibe fairly ofteh, like with the Sadies). Eastwood's movies are more--overcast, and delibetately smaller-scale; but (maybe that's why I) don't remember their soundtracks (later, of course, he even sang with Merle Haggard, prob on the soundtrack of Honky Tonk Man or Bronco Billy)
― dow, Sunday, 15 February 2009 22:38 (seventeen years ago)
He sings toward the end of Gran Torino, too; seem to work effectively in context of the move (which I liked a lot), though I can't imagine wanting to listen to his song outside of said context. Otherwise, he's been working in more jazz in recent years, hasn't he? As for his Westerns, I remember Phil Dellio joking once in Radio On that Clint's "Unforgiven" vs. Metallica's comparably sluggish and interminable "The Unforgiven" would make for a stirring foot race. (Personal favorite Clint movies, fwiw, are probably Tightrope, The Gauntlet, and Escape From Alcatraz. I've always found staying awake through those old Sergio Leone flicks really difficult, though I also get the idea that might sort of be the point.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 15 February 2009 23:12 (seventeen years ago)
the sound effects in the classic Morricone STs are cool, and appropriate. the ST for Once Upon a Time in America is fine, and I guess, Chuck, I'd have to say, try to attend to Once Upon a Time in the West, '69, the best Leone film and a typically good Morricone ST. (It's the one in which Henry Fonda is a villain.) Jason Robards is great in it.
I remember reading Xgau in the '90s Guide, saying something to the effect that Mercury Rev was what happened when rockers allowed as to how they really liked Morricone, in other words, soundtrack-rock isn't good. I see his point but what does that mean, that musicians wanting to expand their palettes are supposed to follow Christgau's taste in what's Appropriate or not? Or that atmospherics don't a good record make? Just seemed like another example of Christgau being kind of narrow, like his weird dislike of salsa or something. That said, I don't much care for Mercury Rev myself, and the Spindrift record works best when it's kinda psych-Nuggets-blooze/Arthur Lee filigree...
speaking of aural textures, I'm struck by how convoluted the new Jason Isbell is, like the end of "Sunstroke" where it gets sticky and then he has to follow it with how the sunlight makes fools of peoples. "I need some things to look forward to," and I like this record but find it depressing. So maybe he needs the textures. The more straightforward songs, like "Good," sound like retreads to me, good songs but the words are kinda buried.
― whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 15 February 2009 23:34 (seventeen years ago)
xp Speaking of free records, the mailman has for some reason been bombarding me with new ones by country-folk-blues-pop-alt-AC-whatever ladies for the past week, but I've mostly been too busy playing old CDs and even ancient mix cassettes I come across while packing boxes to keep up with the deluge. That said, and noting that I've barely made it all through any of these paying attention, this is the approximate order I've been liking them so far (very likely to change when I'm able to devote more time):
-- Sarah Borges & The Broken Singles (on Sugar Hill) Like it better than her previous album so far, and yeah, that single (opening track) has a lot of Joan Jett in it, though also some Sheryl Crow I think. (In fact, I hear Sheryl in pretty much all these women.) Second track is vintage-sounding 1979 pub rock new wave, and she does a real good version of "Being With You," probably my favorite latter day (= '80s) Smokey Robinson song (which actually made my top ten singles list the year it came out; only late-Smokey competition would be "Cruisin'" I guess.)
-- Alice Peacock (on Peacock Music/Rocket Science/Adrenaline) From L.A. and records in Nashville, apparently. Two very detailed and catchy songs I love so far -- "Real Life" and "City Of Angels." The latter is built on early Tom Petty type guitars. 15 songs is a ton to get through, though.
-- Ellen Jewell (on Signature Sounds) More toward the Lucinda or Kathleen Edwards direction it seems. Covers "Shakin' All Over" by slowing it down. Probably not a not a good idea -- and there's a good chance she'll wind up boring me -- but we'll see.
-- Jaden South (self-released I think) Two girls, not one. More rock/Heart-oriented, or at least that's what they seem to be trying for in the first song. Far from convinced they'll pull it off, though.
-- Michelle Malone (on SBS/Thirty Tigers.) More white bar band blues-ish. From NYC, iirc. And still more indebted to Sheryl than anyone else, it seems.
Probably won't wind up liking any of these as much as I like the Megan Munroe album that came out in January on Diamond (and which I still haven't gone into any detail here about what I like about it. Hope to someday.) But they all show some potential.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 15 February 2009 23:35 (seventeen years ago)
Anyway, bottom line, Borges and Peacock seem to have the poppiest insticts, and Jaden South and Malone seem the stodgiest. Borges and Peacock sounded the best in a rentavan this weekend. (Btw, it will be interesting to see which shades of my tastes change when I'm back to listening to music more while on the road, in Texas. I've missed that in New York.)
Still, right now I've got Bonnie Raitt's reputed 1982 new wave album Green Light on (see, another old CD pulled off the shelf), and she sounds like might have had better pop instincts than any of those new gals, at least when she was covering NRBQ anyway. (And really, how good can your pop instincts be if they're not even as good as Bonnie Raitt's?)
Also got an advance of a new Los Straitjackets album on Yep Roc in the mail; I know Don was a fan of an album (which I never heard) a couple years ago where I guess they covered old East L.A and Mexican-border Latin brown-eyed soul and rock songs, but I mainly know them for their Nacho Libre surf instrumental schtick, which has always struck me as completely pointless (I mean it's not like I've ever listened to Dick Dale or Johnny and the Hurricanes or Chantays albums all the way through, even; surf instrumentals have always just struck me as a cool change of pace at best. And at least those old bands were inventing something.) So I only got through four songs, then gave up. But who knows, maybe some kind of guitar afficianado finds them entertaining.
― xhuxk, Monday, 16 February 2009 00:20 (seventeen years ago)
in other words, soundtrack-rock isn't good...Or that atmospherics don't a good record make?
But uh...It's not. And they don't. Like, 99 percent of the time or so. I mean, occasionally you'll get an Another Green World or something, but really, how often does that happen? (Honestly, I bet Xgau thinks it happens more often than I do! He even wound up giving the crappy '08 Nine Inch Nails album an A-, calling " background music, there waiting when your mind drifts speakerward, just distracting enough to change up your mood in a useful way.") Or maybe we just like different atmospherics.
― xhuxk, Monday, 16 February 2009 00:57 (seventeen years ago)
(Actually, not sure how much I even agree with what I just wrote. I've liked quite a bit of atmospheric/ soundtrack/background rock in the past few years; usually, strangely enough, it falls under the genre heading "metal" -- which for the past decade or two has been better at sounding good in the background than at writing memorable songs. And usually, I miss the songs. So though I like a lot of it, I don't love very much of it. So maybe atmospherics makes for good records, not just great ones.)
Also, I swear I'm not being difficult here, Edd, but I'm not sure why Christgau not liking salsa much is "weird" -- no more than me not getting African music as much as he does is weird, or me not having much use for shoegaze or Brit-pop or twee indie music or any number of other genres is weird, or salsa fans disliking metal is weird. There are some genres I wish he got more (and some genres I wish he got less!), but seems to me his tastes are fairly broad, compared to most people who write about music (not to mention most people who don't.) And of course he wants musicians to make music that appeals to his tastes. Don't you?
Okay, now somebody get us back to country, please.
― xhuxk, Monday, 16 February 2009 01:56 (seventeen years ago)
Though maybe your point is that, for somebody so versed in so many seemingly esoteric and highly rhythmic types of music from around the world, salsa should be a breeze? (If so, I can maybe see that. Though truth be told, I don't listen to a whole lot of salsa myself, either. Maybe even less than Xgau.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 16 February 2009 02:04 (seventeen years ago)
xp Better pop instincts than Bonnie Raitt, to my ears (even if they lacked hits): Robin Lane and the Chartbusters (whose debut album I was just playing).
― xhuxk, Monday, 16 February 2009 02:07 (seventeen years ago)
The best Raitt I've heard are still Give It Up (1972) and Takin' My Time ('73?), mixing very rowdy old New Orleans and other regional r&b covers with fetching folkie ballads and her moody slide and bottleneck guitars (esp. on Chris Smither's groovestential "Love Me Like a Man" and "I Feel the Same," the latter backed by primo Little Feat). And crazy shit that works, like Jackson Browne's long and winding "Under The Falling Sky," with congas and Paul Butterfield's harmonica galloping between starry-eyed freefall choruses. And I think Smokey Robinson wrote "Girl, You Been in Love Too Long," Allen Toussaint did some others, but that's as pop as it gets. Green Light's good too, and Home Plate, then I'd get Sweet Forgiveness and The Glow from the bargain bin (all of this has finally been remastered, but prob that's in the bin too). That Straitjackets album is creative recastings of ancient American rock hits, xhuxx, like ancient Mexican hipologists used to do all the time ("El Microscopico Bikini" is reworked "Itsy Bitsy Teenie Weenie Yellow Polka Dot Bikini")
― dow, Monday, 16 February 2009 02:24 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, figured I'd misconstrued that, somehow. (And earlier meant to say that "maybe atmospherics makes for good records, just not great ones." In the background now: A highly atmospheric 1993 album by the noise band Smegma. Hey, it beats Mercury Rev.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 16 February 2009 02:34 (seventeen years ago)
well, I mean Xgau likes the New York Dolls a lot more than he probably likes Morricone, but I don't, really. maybe he's thinking that Morricone is just one step up from that space-age bachelor-pad shit of the early '90s and that bothers him. I guess I don't see how adding Morricone-style sound effects or "atmospherics" necessarily add up to anything better or worse than your average rock and roll any more than Randy Newman doing his little Broadway-parody arrangements adds up to a debasement of rock and roll itself or whatever. but yeah, my point really was that it ought to be a breeze; it seems more or less like a breeze in general to me these days, for Chrissake my significant other likes Marc Cohn and Sting and Stevie Winwood circa "If You See a Chance" and to her, that's just good singing and maybe I'm just tired of arguing ideology, I ain't dumb enough to do that with her. Because it is "good singing," a lot of it, and that makes me sit back and rethink some of what I've always believed, which has always been pretty close to the Xgau semipop line and all that. "good singing" being analogous to "atmosphere" and "soundtracky" maybe.
the first Sarah Borges thing, on Silver City? label, has always been my fave, even more so than the second record she did, which I loved at the time but maybe now I'll go back and find I don't like it so much...
― whisperineddhurt, Monday, 16 February 2009 03:55 (seventeen years ago)
I believe they were from L.A. But who knows -- maybe they spent some time in SF?
― QuantumNoise, Monday, 16 February 2009 15:08 (seventeen years ago)
Some time in Science Fiction, anyway. Not the lyrics as much as the music, which speculates and expands (psychedelic=mind-expanding, though not bothering to stay with the "psych" tag, a stylistic marker only-not when, for inst, they recorded with Johnny Guitar Watson)(and yeah xxuxx, usually we want to check "music that appeals to our tastes<" but I also look for music that pulls me from what I've written about as "the grave of taste," in the sendse that taste can beone more habit that sticks a fork in my ass cos I'm done==and xgau gets pulled out sometimes too, like, I guess, when he gets hooked on Cachao or the Buena Vista masters, though prob not the Breakfast Club album, despite not getting salsa--and not that they play salsa, but such experiences go around, though not through, some barriers--I hope I never "get" a lot of stuff I now can't stand, but Time Of Orchids and Shearwater show me how some prev. repulsive elements *can* be very enjoyable and/or admirable--and getting back to the country for a minute, that collection of George Strait's 500 or 50 #1 Hits showed me how Andy Williams-type golf course crooning *could* be good; I liked about 25 of 'em anyway! Pretty good, esp, considering that #1 Hits are a shady category, re what it takes to get there so damn often--Elvis's Top Ten Hits is a much more roadworthy collection than his #1s, for instance)
― dow, Monday, 16 February 2009 16:07 (seventeen years ago)
So moving means purging (though I haven't been purginig nearly enough of course), and I noticed Lalena was going to give away her copy of k.d. lang and the reclines' 1987 Angel With A Lariat, which I didn't even know she owned and which I hadn't listened to in 20 years. So I decided to this morning, and determined that it is still the only k.d. lang album I will ever like. Had forgotten that Dave Edmunds produced the thing, but that totally makes sense -- it's a real catchy new wave cowpunk rockabilly record, especially side two (which leads with a version of "Rose Garden" that's like the missing link between Lynn Anderson and Kon Kan). Thing is, k.d.'s voice is my least favorite thing about the album; it's just not a rockabilly voice -- weightless, made of air, no gravity, never touches the earth, which I guess is what people like about it but I don't hear her conveying anything at all. As much as I like the record, I'd probably like it more with almost any other random female country singer. So I guess I understand why k.d. switched to more, uh, atmospheric music soon after, but at least this one had some hooks that could be grabbed onto, and I like that she wasn't taking herself with such deathly dull seriousness yet -- I almost get the idea she was going to be marketed as the country Cyndi Lauper or something. Didn't work commercially, though. (She didn't make the Top 200 album chart in Billboard until Shadowland a year later, which I have no interest in hearing again.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 16:41 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, that's a good 'un. (Where is old Dave anyway? At least he's not presenting us with those twilight time snoozes like Nick Lowe's recent bequests.)I also like Absolute Torch 'n' Twang; despite its title, prob her best mainstream-country-plausible set--it's got her Western Canada ranch gal roots, flexing "Tallll in the Saddle," without any shootout etc scenarios. "Trail of Broken Hearts, " oo wee.Atmospheric like the wind swooping, brushing 'cross the plain. Shadowland was a touch too framed by its black and white cover photography, but also had that group vocal with Loretta Lynn and Kitty Wells
― dow, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 03:56 (seventeen years ago)
My Blender review of the new Jason Isbel:
http://www.blender.com/guide/reviews.aspx?id=5435
Also, in case anybody cares, here is a thread full of C90 mixes I made for myself, mostly in the late '80s and early '90s (a few of which actually cannibalize mixes that Frank and Scott Seward had sent me first.) One thing that surprises me is how little country -- at least current country -- is on them. I was even listening to more, uh, salsa then. Maybe even more Brit-pop. (Not to mention lots of old-school hip-hop, punk, other stuff.) Weird!
Song Lists From Ancient Mix Cassettes I Just Pulled Out Of Storage After Several Years
Someday I need to pinpoint the exact moment I became a commercial country convert. I have a feeling that Metal Mike talking about liking a lot of it at the tail-end of the '90s was a major waker-upper. (Garth and Shania no doubt helped some, too. I was definitely watching CMT some in the early '90s, though, which helps explain the stray Lorrie Morgan and Little Texas tracks that pop up on these mixes. Even did a video rundown once for Radio On.)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 13:19 (seventeen years ago)
(Almost no then-current heavy metal or "teen pop" on the mixes either -- unless hair-metal counts. Which, again, is what lotsa country wound up sounding like.)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 13:43 (seventeen years ago)
i believe you once in Voice credited the Army with schooling your suburban ass on country, via initially involuntary exposure (maybe when you were comparing Tom T. Hall's Germany-based military experience, referenced in song, to to your own). Speaking of atmospherics, caught and was caught by a misty morning encounter with a new brush-by cover of Townes Van Zandt's "If I Needed You" (who else covered this, in a hit version maybe?) Turned out to be a new track by Kimmie Rhodes, known mainly in Texas, I think. Once briefly owned an album where she mentioned how she just didn't understand how some people aren't eternally Grateful for this blessed blessed world, mentioned that once too often. Inspired closer, mist-dissolving scrutiny. But (vaguely recalled) reliable sources insist she can be awesome, and "If I Needed You," though not awesome, is close enough to make me wonder (maybe she's just better on covers--anybody know her other work?)
― dow, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:01 (seventeen years ago)
Well, yeah...I self-schooled myself on old country when I was in the Army (and before that, I'd met a few kids in college at Missouri who were fans of CDB and Willie and Waylon etc., which at the time they referred to as "progressive country"), but I'm talking about the post-Urban Cowboy (and especially '90s and beyond) pop-crossover-type stuff here. I had little use for that until the late '90s, seems to me -- which those mixes seem to confirm. (Though there were clear exceptions, most obiously the Bellamy Brothers, who I wrote about for the Voice. Wrote about John Anderson more, though.)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 20:14 (seventeen years ago)
Or maybe a more accurate way to map it out is that I paid cursory attention to some country (mostly neo-trad stuff) through most of the '80s, but then I stopped paying attention for several years, and didn't get really obsessed about it above most other genres until I was living in NYC, of all places.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 20:18 (seventeen years ago)
More evidence is that, in year-by-year discographies in the back of Accidental Evolution (15 albums per year), very few country albums make my '80s and '90s lists -- Best-Of LPs by John Anderson, CDB, John Conlee, Bellamy Brothers, K.T. Oslin, Garth Brooks (only one of those mainly a '90s act), and I think that's it. Yet in the past few years, most of my #1 Pazz & Jop ballot albums have been by country acts -- Big N Rich, Montgomery Gentry, Brooks & Dunn, Jamey Johnson. I'm wondering now what set that shift in motion, and why it happened.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 20:28 (seventeen years ago)
Er, guess I don't really mean "pop crossover" (since none of those current acts I just mentioned actually cross over pop), but just plain "contemporary."
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 20:33 (seventeen years ago)
just posted on the Isbell thread now, but wanted to mention I chatted with Jason here in Nashvegas for a good half-hour on Monday. Smart guy, who went to music school in Memphis, so what we ended talking about was shit like Duke Ellington and arranging and suchlike. he then got his guys together and did a brief 5-6-song set at Grimey's, and apart from a few vocal gaffes (he's a good singer but I can tell he's not, er, taking care of his voice, and he's now 30), it all sounded great. Some kind of mix of '70s calibration and more direct soul/country stuff.
I hear that Booker T. and Neil Young have contributed to some of the new Drive-By Truckers shit, and that Patterson Hood will have a new one out soon. Also been listening to this Doug Sahm tribute, nothing's quite kicked in but I gotta go back and give it more time I guess.
― whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:13 (seventeen years ago)
The forthcoming Booker T. album is backed by the Truckers, and Neil may be on it too (remember, Booker T & The MGs have backed Neil on at least one tour--think it was the whole group-- and some members def on some of his tours; check the Red Rocks live CD and more stuff on DVD, or was on VHS,anyway). So, if he's on theirs, fair enough (wonder if Spooner Oldham's keys are still in the mix as well?) Saw a YouTube vid of Booker T. sitting in with Isbell & 440s at last year's SXSW, recorded on somebody's phone, judging by crap sonics, but when Booker T. took a solo, he surged through der hiss.
― dow, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 22:44 (seventeen years ago)
Snooks Eglin just died. He's not country but a unique, great New Orleans guitarist. I added details about the sad manner of his passing on this thread--Snooks Eaglin ?
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 19 February 2009 03:42 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, I think I got the Booker T. thing mixed up.
I saw Snooks Eaglin three times, and he was always great, with really good taste in covers. He was tagged as a folk musician when he wasn't, early on, which sorta relates here in a way I guess.
― whisperineddhurt, Thursday, 19 February 2009 19:02 (seventeen years ago)
Notable chart movement this week below. (Huge leap for Jamey's drug song; good leap for Rich's Detroit song. Hadn't noticed til now that "Marry For Money" and "It Happens," both of which I like, were doing well. "Sissy's Song" seemed sappy last year. Need to hear the Lost Trailers, Bombshel, and Chris Young.)
21 26 34 3 Shuttin' Detroit Down, John Rich J.Rich (J.Rich,J.D.Anderson ) Warner Bros. DIGITAL | WRN | 21 22 24 24 7 Marry For Money, Trace Adkins F.Rogers (D.Turnbull,J.Melton ) Capitol Nashville DIGITAL | 22 25 28 28 19 How 'Bout You Don't, The Lost Trailers B.Beavers (S.Nielson,V.McGehe,J.Stover ) BNA DIGITAL | 25 35 38 40 6 Whatever It Is, Zac Brown Band K.Stegall,Z.Brown (Z.Brown,W.Durrette ) Home Grown/Atlantic DIGITAL | Big Picture | 35 40 1 It Happens, Sugarland B.Gallimore,K.Bush,J.Nettles (J.O.Nettles,K.Bush,B.Pinson ) Mercury DIGITAL | 40 43 46 47 12 Like A Woman, Jamie O'Neal R.Good (J.O'Neal,S.Bentley,J.Femino ) 1720 PROMO SINGLE | 43 45 NEW 1 Sissy's Song, Alan Jackson K.Stegall (A.Jackson ) Arista Nashville DIGITAL | 45 46 60 2 High Cost Of Living, Jamey Johnson The Kent Hardley Playboys (J.Johnson,J.T.Slater ) Mercury DIGITAL | 46 50 53 56 4 Blue Jeans And A Rosary, Kid Rock Kid Rock,R.Cavallo (R.J.Ritchie,M.Young ) Top Dog/Atlantic PROMO SINGLE | CO5 | 50 51 54 55 4 Wild At Heart, Gloriana M.Serletic (M.Serletic,J.Kear,S.Bentley ) Emblem PROMO SINGLE | New Revolution | 51 54 NEW 1 Fight Like A Girl, Bomshel C.Howard (K.Shepard,K.Osmunson,B.Regan ) Curb PROMO SINGLE | 54 58 NEW 1 Country Star, Pat Green D.Huff (P.Green,B.James ) BNA DIGITAL | 58 59 NEW 1 Love Your Love The Most, Eric Church J.Joyce (E.Church,M.P.Heeney ) Capitol Nashville DIGITAL | 59 60 NEW 1 Gettin' You Home (The Black Dress Song), Chris Young J.Stroud (C.Young,C.Batten,K.Blazy ) RCA DIGITAL | 60
― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 February 2009 21:59 (seventeen years ago)
Had been looking for Carolyn Wonderland's Miss Understood for a bit and, initially, it's a letdown from the build-up and cover photo of roots lady in army jacket with peace sign and guitar, hair-flying.
Best song is Rick Derringer's "Still Alive and Well" which lives up to billing. The rest is split between blooz & such, mid-tempo stuff screwed up with additions of do-nothing horns instead of just turning up the guitar. The rest is country, probably to the taste of No Depressioners. Best of these is "Long Way to Go" and "Feed Me to the Lions." Worst is "The Farmer Song" -- dull as dishwater, just like you'd think most songs with "Farmer" in the title should be. Am compelled to give it more chances to grow but my question is when someone does a record lie this, why can't they even play the blues as well as Foghat, Savoy Brown or Chicken Shack?
Because they're Texan, and one has to make concessions to being a rural but tasteful hack when doing Texas fern bars in 2009, more than British men in duffle coats doing the same in dives in Milton Keynes in 1969?
Boy, this sounds so bad. "Still Alive and Well" is great, "Long Way to Go" has some charm.
― Gorge, Friday, 20 February 2009 00:22 (seventeen years ago)
Bombshel, Lost Trailers, and Chris Young hits are no great shakes. Respectively: Two-girl harmony advice from mom to daughter about staying strong through life; last-ditch power-ballad (vaguely verging on '80s commercial Richard-Marx-level medium-soft rock) attempt to withstand a breakup before it slams door; decently sung wait til I get you home quasi-lust. None of them better than ho-hum on one listen.
Still no official "High Cost Of Living" promo vid on youtube (anybody who has CMT -- is there one there?); ditto "Shuttin' Detroit Down," though the latter has at least inspired a couple fan clips. Sounds like there's two different versions of the song; so far I prefer the more downcast and folkish version, which seems to capture the graveness of the situation more, to the more click-tracky upbeat mix where John should've hired Kenny Aronoff. But I can see why the latter might sound better on a car radio.
Fan vid for the click-tracky one has more politics (covertly seems to blame Detroit's current economic state on Nancy Pelosi and Barney Frank, which is baloney) but also a couple really moving shots with abandoned lots in them (also as many farmers as auto workers, which is odd); fan vid for the folkish mix has more Detroit (assembly line history, sports teams, Motown, city landmarks, rock stars, some kid band apparently called the Muldoons whose uncle maybe put together the video, who knows.) Detroit-heavy one yanks my heartstrings more, so here it is:
― xhuxk, Friday, 20 February 2009 02:04 (seventeen years ago)
Comments are fun to read, too:
tinyandy4 (5 days ago) song is great, your video sucks
I'm from the 313. you act like you are from the 248
punkmusicmike (5 days ago) If you were to take some time snd look st my profile you would have figured out I "come from the 586". How does someone "from the 248" act? What is this area code crap anyway?
I made the video because I wanted to contribute and let people know I care about Detoit. Your 313!
I love John Rich's song and these are the first things that came to mind when I made the vid.
daphneowl (3 days ago) What I think what he means by "248" (Oakland County) is that there is a lack of black folks and black perspective in this video. It is Detroit proud, but definitely represents a white nostalgia view of the city. Not trying to start a race debate here (I can go to the freep for that). Just sayin.
punkmusicmike (3 days ago) Others can vouch for me as I an not racist at all. I am pretty diverse as I am from the 313, the 810 and now it's called the 586 haha ;-D
The funny thing is I really don't care for the music of Kid Rock but I did add him.
I really, really wanted to add the Detroit Tigers Willie Horton but I figured more people would know who Al Kaline was. I loved watching Willie and Gates Brown play baseball!
― xhuxk, Friday, 20 February 2009 02:25 (seventeen years ago)
These comments evoke a "school kids" version of Alexandra Pelosi's Feeling Wronged: Voices from the Right.
― Gorge, Friday, 20 February 2009 16:47 (seventeen years ago)
Fwiw, I posted this over on Poptimists about Taylor Swift videos, responding to Lex's saying about "Love Story": "So much better without the video, the song's all about the details and the minutiae, and the video just goes in the opposite direction and detracts from the song."
I agree totally about the Taylor vid. The dressy dresses in the "Our Song" vid had been so incongruous as to be fascinatingly weird and who cares if they have nothing to do with the song (and they really defy the country standard of dressing like your audience), but "Love Story" is just Prince Charming and Princess Taylor stereotypes that do nothing for the song's actual fear and hope ("we'll make it out of this mess"). The vid for "Teardrops On My Guitar" is brilliantly spot-on normal in the high-school scenes and so bizarrely strange with her doll-costume and fake glitter tears in the "home in bed and dreaming scene" as to be brilliant too. My favorite vid is the pre-megasales "Tim McGraw," which is also my favorite song of hers, the guy playing the boyfriend having such a handsomely unrevealing face that he's perfect as the boy ambivalently addressed in the song. Great use of standard pastorale scenes that the song lyrics give an edge of uneasiness to. Compare to the great Deanna Carter's "Strawberry Wine" ("I was thirsty for knowledge, and he had a car"), the prototype for both the song and the vid, but the video for "Tim McGraw" has a much clearer sense of its story. "Picture To Burn," which I totally missed at the time, seems like a quickie concept, "let's do a takeoff on a whole bunch of new wave and rock show videos," and is disappointing in the way it hints at some "Kerosene" or "Before He Cheats" action but then keeps taking you back to the rock show. "White Horse," which just came out last week, works really well as the anti-"Love Story" vid; e.g., the way she finds out that her boyfriend is going with someone else is by seeing him carrying groceries to the other girl's door. I like the way that she plays neither poor nor fancy in the restaurant and house settings. (Too bad I don't like the melody in the chorus.)
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 23 February 2009 18:56 (seventeen years ago)
(Xhuxk, one reason there might not have been much "teenpop" on those cassettes is that it's not all that clear what "teenpop" would have been back then (except as you say, Poison and Slaughter and Guns N' Roses etc.), though there's always a persistent bubblegum fringe with one or two big acts and then a bunch of novelties, but very little that would come across as kids-only in the way that HSM is now. New Kids obviously, New Edition except they were earlier and I don't think Bobby Brown, Bel Biv DeVoe et al. on their own counted as teenpop (though don't know why I say that, and the latter were a template for the Backstreet Boys). Paula Abdul was big among teens and tweens and five-year-olds but also among adults. TV has been a generator of teenpop since Ricky Nelson on Ozzie & Harriet, but you didn't then have kids-only TV networks generating lots of those singers, and I don't think any general TV show of the time was producing teen singers in the U.S. in the way that Neighbours gave Kylie Minogue and Jason Donovan to Australia and Britain. The U.S. had 21 Jump Street but Johnny Depp didn't sing (though he did once tell Smash Hits the name of his favorite group, and the reporter wrote, "We couldn't quite understand what he was saying but it sounded something like 'Lemon Bagel Surfers'"). Maybe there were boybands that came and went in the late '80s and early '90s that had scads of fans and that no one like me knew anything about. Not at all impossible. Tiffany and Debbie Gibson might be relevant late '80s acts and Brandy and TLC in the '90s, and with those acts we're starting to get the shift towards teenybopper girls listening to girls (though Madonna sets that off a decade earlier, to some extent). And I guess the Spice Girls were a mass breakthrough of some kind (as I suppose were Hanson on the boy side). Anyway, forgive the noncountry intrusion here. I'm probably forgetting about somebody obvious. A lot of kids were fans of Pearl Jam and Nirvana, I'm sure.)
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 23 February 2009 21:31 (seventeen years ago)
Well, I guess I just meant that there were no songs by NKOTB, Debbie Gibson, Tiffany, or Hanson on the tapes. (There's a Lisa Lisa song and a Vanilla Ice one, though. And one of the tapes that I didn't transcribe titles from starts with two songs from Hanson's Xmas album.)
So in this morning's NYT, Jon Caramanica compared the guitars from "Eight Second Ride" on Jake Owen's first album (in a review of his second one) to "a more thoughtful Black Sabbath." Pretty sure he was exaggerating (and I'm not convinced Sabbath were especially unthoughtful in the first place), but maybe I'll go back and check sometime.
Played the new Flatlanders and Eric Church albums again today. The latter had more rocking songs, but I think I liked the former more regardless. It was close, though. "Smoke A Little Smoke," one of the more rocking songs on Church's albums, is really starting to get on my nerves (as does one of its other rocking songs, "Lotta Boot Left To Fill") and not only because I can't figure out why Eric thinks we need "a little more right and a little less left," which doesn't seem to have anything to do with any political opinions he expresses in any other songs, as far as I can tell.
Played the new Jason Aldean the other day, too. Better than mediocre, I guess, though I can't recommend it any more than that. Also better than the Heartless Bastards album, as far as I can tell.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 03:19 (seventeen years ago)
I heard a track by them that seemed good. No relation to McMurtry's group of the same name, apparently. Frank used the word "pastoral" for what feels like the first time on Rolling Country threads, and I shall use it once more, in the following show preview (album co-produced by Mark Nevins, frequently associated with the more Whisperin' Edd-worthy review objects)Lambchop was once an orchestral party of floating friends and strange guests. Almost twenty years later, as a smaller, imperfectly focused but durable unit, they're flexible role models for quirky indie rockers. Their new album, "OH(Ohio)," vividly personalizes the early 70s pastoral romance (hippie make-out music) of sets like Van Morrison's "Tupelo Honey," as head Lambchopper Kurt Wagner brings mixed feelings to the one who still inspires his affections and obsessions. But he knows the approach: with tiny, surreal, bittersweet jokes, gentle and otherwise, intimately glinting in bouquets of images, usually changed before wilting (not totally unlike Love & Theft, though I'd rather hear Cap'n D. growling at his old lady---in both cases, in many cases, I do relate to mixed emotions--ah, the richness as you stir, otherwise they bogs)
― dow, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 04:25 (seventeen years ago)
Wagner does have a sometimes schticky tendency to swallow certain clues like he's proudly swallowing li'l frogs, once he's got me hooked (though it ain't me he's hopin' for to stay hooked, the one that's got him hooked on trying to impress)
― dow, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 04:31 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, I was probably at least a wee bit too flippant and abrupt in my dismissal of that new Heartless Bastards album here last night. Played about half of it this morning back-to-back with about half each of those Michelle Malone, Jaden South, and Ellen Jewel Triple country-folk-rock gal albums I'd mentioned this morning, and the Heartless Bastards are unarguably more distinctive than any of them -- not much in the way of tunes or rhythm, but a few songs have some stomp to them, and I'm guessing their fans are responding to both the lush ooze of Erika Wennestrom's guitar and the lush ooze of her voice (which reminds me of some late '60s/early '70s cult woman singer I can't place.) Me, though, I really can't get past that singing, which just strikes me as way too immobile and detached and codeined-out. Nothing anybody (including Frank) has written has sold me on them. But maybe something will, who knows.
As for Malone and Jaden South, both of them seem to succumb to either voices or production too thin to match both of their too-intermittent Sheryl Crow-style Stones riffs. And Ellen Jewel just hits me as Lucinda-by-numbers, without Kathleen Edwards' hooks, and I'm not enough a Lucinda fan in the first place.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 15:16 (seventeen years ago)
"Triple A country-folk-rock," I meant.
As for Jason Aldean, he's just a Nashville hat hack, and not an especially interesting as far as I can hear (though his guitars still get nicely loud on occasion.) But unlike those four distaff albums I just talked about, at least his hacky CD has hooks.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 15:21 (seventeen years ago)
" not an especially interesting one."
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 15:24 (seventeen years ago)
Can't remember which Eilee Jewel album I heard, but, although there were a couple decent tracks, most of it was horrribly boring (and I'm one who does usually like Lucinda and several others Jewel often gets compared to)
― dow, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 02:22 (seventeen years ago)
Whisperin' Edd wrote mighty fine liner notes for two worthy, oft remarkable Caroline Peyton reissues (I prefer the earlier one, which even smoothly melds proto-mainstream balladry with even earlier psych pastoral excursions; the second is eminiently qualified resume rock. Chekum both) He reports on a recent show(with Clem Snide!), and links to a concise but more detailed run-down:
...she played Basement last nite and evoked Linda Thompson on Bo Diddley-modal "White Teeth", Joni on "Gone for a Day" and rocked "Fishin' Blues." she's still got it. story: http://www.nashvillecitypaper.com/news.php?viewStory=66332
― dow, Friday, 27 February 2009 23:44 (seventeen years ago)
--at least one song from the *high school musical* OST, "breaking free", sounds as much like a pop-country power ballad to me as a teen-pop power ballad (isn't that one of the big download hits? i think so, since it's one of two tracks with a "karaoke instrumental" version at the end of the CD. and come to think of it, the instumental - which i I kind of like; when I first heard it, it was in my random CD changer, and I guessed it was by either tea leaf green or the tossers! -- sounds somewhat rural or pastoral or whatever as well.) the non-karaoke rendition is said to be sung by leading man troy + leading lady gabrielle.--Xhuxk, February 20, 2006
Birdie Bush seems more interesting to me (than do Pinmonkey). I need to take her home and put her in my CD changer with the new album by Espers, and figure out which (if any) has more Fairport Convention pastoral gorgeousness. (They're both from Philly, right? Where phreak pholk lives, I guess.)--Xhuxk, February 23, 2006
On Wildflower, her latest album, Sheryl's mostly going for meadows and brooks and Hallmark Cards pastorale, albeit vaguely about relationships and feelings rather than about actual flowers. Occasionally achieves the misty beauty she's trying for, but not often. I miss the great codependent holes she used to dig herself into and then try to blast out of, "The Difficult Kind" and "My Favorite Mistake." I'm right now listening to her new track, "Try Not To Remember," for the first time, and it's one of the better things I've heard from her recently, also the most teenpop (sounds a bit like "Behind These Hazel Eyes" in the chorus, just like Chuck's least favorite song on the Taylor Swift), though it's arrangement is more womby-tweepop like Jewel or McLachlan, and it slowly bleeds to death at the end.--Frank Kogan, January 22, 2007
(Daniel Lee) Martin's more the rugged outdoorsman, apparently, but I really like the rocker about the girl born into a family whose business is moonshine, and the outdoorsy anthem about why tall buildings in cities are why God made rivers, and the song about it depends which way you look at it with the dark hard opening riff that reminds me that Bob Dylan's "Hurricane" was pretty dark and rocking song, and the pastoral introduction to the John Denver cover which I haven't otherwise listened to yet.
The guy whose imminent album I'm surprised to determine is geared largely to women (though he probably always had a certain beefcake appeal about him, and I can see why he might decide to emphasize that in the Trace Adkins era) is Travis Tritt. Most audacious cut on The Storm (an album which by the way I believe Randy Jackson is said to have played a major role on) is "Rub Off On Me," borderline porn-for-housewives that I swear might as well really be called "Rub One Out On Me," since that's what it seems to me about; that parody boy band from a few years ago 2Gether would be very impressed. It's this sort of slow funk bump-and-grinder (funkier than the also soul-sistered funk-flirting single "You Never Take Me Dancing," to my ears) where Travis tells this woman to get it off her chest, and at the end the music just drops out for a while to a spare beat and r&b singers repeatedly chanting the title over and over again -- takes its time finishing, in other words. The other songs I really like on the album are the Skynyrd/CDB-style swing-funk two-step (which namedrops "Gimme Three Steps") "High Time For Gettin' Down," plus somewhere between two and four slow intense Southern rock bluesers: cheating in the next room song "The Pressure Is On" (which opens with a pastoral Led Zeppelin lick); kicked out of the house song (his clothes are thrown all over the room and his credit cards are gone and so is she and his wallet's in the yard) "Should've Listened" (but instead like he learned from his Daddy everything she said went in one ear and out the other and now he's paying for it), and maybe "The Storm" and "Somehow, Somewhere, Someway." "Something Stronger Than Me" (= Jesus or liquor) is an okay gospely thing; "Doesn't The Good Outweight The Bad" is a boogie kept fairly light with some tra-la-las, and most of the rest (the stuff that doesn't grab me) is sentimental stuff for the ladies. But all in all, better than I expected.--Xhuxk, July 22, 2007
― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 1 March 2009 04:46 (seventeen years ago)
The Daniel Lee Martin passage was also by Xhuxk, March 31, 2007.
― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 1 March 2009 04:47 (seventeen years ago)
Also spent a lot of time this week listening to the intricate pastoral acoustic Scandinavian Celtic chamber jig prog bluegrass mandolin nyckelharp violin 12-string and so on folk of Mike Marshall & Darol Anger's With Vasen (imagine umlaut over the "a" in Vasen.) From Sweden, I thought from the CD package, but their myspaces place them in California, which I will try not to hold against them even it decreases their mysteriousness factor. I think I tend to like them better in jig mode (i.e., "Yew Piney Mt") than Penguin Cafe Orchestra mode (i.e, "Misch Masch"), but both sound good. "Os Pintinhos" (which appears to have tango parts, or something) is defintely another favorite of mine--Xhuxk, September 22, 2007
Xhuxx, New Bloods' music instantly took me run skip hop dub through the big bad woods with these somewhat gunpowdery little red riding hoods, but woods, like folk, pastoral tec don't nec.=country, they seem a little too urban, in the sense of "I know trouble when I see it three blocks away, cross the street [or the creek] almost without thinking"--not making as big a deal of it, in bravura and/or brooding a way as country tends too--not that some big ceety types don't make a big deal too, but either way goes with urban (New Bloods do take note of shadows etc but they're used to it, wothout getting that mountain-fatalistic about it, or maybe I'm distracted by the music, but that's part of the non-country feel)(but I'll listen some more)--Dow, November 13, 2008
― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 1 March 2009 04:54 (seventeen years ago)
New Miley Cyrus single, "The Climb," has a "country mix" that is microscopically different from this one, will be officially released to the country market on March 9. The differences I could hear are a bit of steel guitar and less guitar crunch. Produced by John Shanks, written by Jessi Alexander, Jon Mabe. Miley and the rest of them do a good job, and I don't mind listening to it, though sky-reaching power ballads aren't really my kind of song.
And then there's the "Miley Cyrus Hoedown Throwdown," Miley seeing if she can be Cowboy Troy and also create her own Crank That Soulja Boy type dance, doesn't make it. Where is Ludacris when you really need him?
― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 1 March 2009 05:11 (seventeen years ago)
I'm glad to see how often and well we did use that word, and I still need to check out that Travis Tritt album. Mike Marshall were in the David Grisman Quintet thirty years ago, playing music that changed some of my friends' lives,starting with their careers; later they were bands like Psychograss and the Modern Mandolin Quintet, maybe the Turtle Island String Quartet too, and many things since, playing glorious Americana chamber music with some doors cut into and windows kicked out of the chamber, all going back to what Grisman always called dawg music. Just saw a re-run of the Saturday Night Live with Taylor Swift doing her prince and princess song. The band didn't showboat, but the song,judging by basic practicalities of guitar-friendly framework supporting innocuously hott daydreams of words and tune, seemed most effective insofar as it was designed for the ace musos' pleasantly muscular delivery (incl. their discreet backup vocals). But she's a good hostess, not unlike the singers who basically presented big bands, and it's the total effect that counts.
― dow, Sunday, 1 March 2009 06:05 (seventeen years ago)
Mike Marshall and Darryl Anger were in the David Grisman Quintet, I meant (and I might have a very dif opinion of the studio version of Taylor's song, but it doesn't seem like the song itself as much potential, however much the singer may have)
― dow, Sunday, 1 March 2009 06:09 (seventeen years ago)
Looks like the No Depression website is ending its editorial functions--which I guess means no more feature articles or reviews. Now it will just house blogs and a message board.
― President Keyes, Sunday, 1 March 2009 15:29 (seventeen years ago)
Darol Anger
― dow, Sunday, 1 March 2009 17:50 (seventeen years ago)
So what inspired you to search "pastoral", Frank? (Not that there needs to be a particular reason, obviously. But if there was one, I missed it.)
Chart action: "Shuttin' Down Detroit" up 21-->18; "High Cost Of Living" up 46-->43; Randy Houser "Boots On" debuts at 59.
And for what it's worth, I now live in Texas. (Though not actually in Austin until the end of this week, when my boxes arrive, hopefully intact.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 1 March 2009 17:53 (seventeen years ago)
Pardon me for askin', how and why Texas? Although you've picked the only place, Austin, that makes any sense.
― Gorge, Sunday, 1 March 2009 20:44 (seventeen years ago)
Lalena grew up in Houston before spending the past 14 years in NYC, and her parents are still there; we both like Austin, where she did her undergrad. (And the would-be hippies can't be any less tolerable than they were in Ann Arbor, right?) I'm also fond of armadillos, barbecue, and Friday Night Lights (not that I'd have any interest in living the latter). Lower cost of living and warmer weather than NYC help too (plus, not being New Yorkers, we were both way beyond burnt out on being there.) Also doesn't hurt that OK music comes from here sometimes.
Don't think I've listened to either Birdie Bush orMarshall & Anger since I called them pastoral above.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 1 March 2009 22:42 (seventeen years ago)
My football watching friend's a Texan. He lived in Austin for many years, obviously liked it quite a lot. Hook 'em 'Horns every Saturday in the fall.
― Gorge, Sunday, 1 March 2009 22:53 (seventeen years ago)
Holy shit, Caroline Peyton reissues! Edd Hurt liner notes! Something for MX-80 Sound obsessives to lust over...
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, 2 March 2009 00:45 (seventeen years ago)
yeah, Chris Stigliano writes about the MX-80 connection here (scroll down the post):
http://black2com.blogspot.com/2009/02/dont-jump-call-to-mass-suicide-has-been.html
― xhuxk, Monday, 2 March 2009 02:06 (seventeen years ago)
Frank used the word "pastoral" for what feels like the first time on Rolling Country threads, and I shall use it once more, in the following show preview--Dow, February 24, 2009
Don't know if Don thought it was just my first use or rolling country's first use, but decided to check both.
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 2 March 2009 13:41 (seventeen years ago)
That makes sense. Anyway, that Miley "Hoedown Throwdown" hick-hop thing is clearly not pastoral. But I also don't see how it sounds remotely like Cowboy Troy, and nor do I get how I Ludacris could have made it better. It reminds me more of some proto-Rednex early '80s British new wave novelty I can't place -- Hasysi Fantayzee or Wide Boy Awake or somebody like that. Maybe Scott Seward could figure it out. And "boom boom clap boom de clap de clap" is a catchy chorus. I kind of like it, maybe needless to say, but it could maybe afford to be longer, more fleshed out with goofy Euro-beats or something. (Not sure if this is the full version, or just a teaser. A minute and a half seems kinda short for a single, especially a line dance aimed at wedding receptions.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 2 March 2009 14:34 (seventeen years ago)
(Also could obviously use at least one fiddle solo.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 2 March 2009 14:36 (seventeen years ago)
And could use some hoe jokes, courtesy Ludacris.
(Cowboy Troy in that it's hick-hop, not that she's going close to his old school mannerisms.)
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 2 March 2009 15:16 (seventeen years ago)
Do Da Stanky Legg: Not country, but state of the art for silly Internet dances, and like Xhuxk, they're Texan.
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 2 March 2009 15:33 (seventeen years ago)
yeah, Stigliano gets it about right: Bloomington was "Berkeley west," at least on Peyton's Mock Up (the deleted track, "Lor el iii," is kinda fun but ultimately just another jam). MX-80, well I mean I just listened to one of their live cuts on this obscure Bloomington sampler on Bar-B-Q Records and er, they were Beefheart (therefore, L.A. east) but of course Pere Ubu came along and upped the ante on that.
― whisperineddhurt, Monday, 2 March 2009 17:37 (seventeen years ago)
"Berkeley east" that is.
and obviously, Bloomington was proto-indie scene similar to what was happening around Stax Records in Memphis, with Terry Manning, Chris Bell, Alex Chilton and Jim Dickinson all interacting. with Mark Bingham, who was the guy making a lot of the interesting stuff happen, it was about getting these jazz players from the Indiana U. music school and putting them with folkies, as Mock Up does. I did like MX-80's We're an American Band (is that right?), the song about the French was good.
― whisperineddhurt, Monday, 2 March 2009 17:57 (seventeen years ago)
Missing link between the mid '70s-to-early '80s Southern Indiana indie-rock (Indy rock?) scene and contemporary country would obviously be one Johnny Cougar of Seymour, Indiana (who actually wrote a pretty hilarious early review of MX-80 Sound at the Bloomington Public Library I've got stuck in a file cabinet somewhere; basically, he argued that kind of music didn't work for Beefheart, either.) I have more use for MX-80 more than the Coug and maybe Edd (if not Myonga or Stigliano) do, though -- which is to say, probably more use than I have for Beefheart (who didn't come close to MX-80's sense of metal) if not as much as I have for early Ubu (way way way more than I have for late Ubu, though.) And I'm also a longtime fan of lots of subsequent Bloomington and Indy bands -- Dancing Cigarettes, Gizmos, Panics, Jetsons, Zero Boys (the latter of whom's often very hooky Vicious Circle has just been reissued on Secretly Canadian.) Also, Red Snerts was an excellent early '80s Southern Indiana comp, fwiw. Probably my favorite provincial early '80s/hardcore-era punk scene, give or take the one in Vancouver.
As for the "Stanky Legg" rap song Frank mentioned, it actually grazed the bottom of the r&b/hip-hop chart last fall, at which time I wrote the following writeup for Idolator that never got published, as I recall, because it was when they refigured my "Next Little Things" column before completely shelving it:
G-SPOT BOYZ
This has been an excellent October for north Texas rap groups doing silly dance songs. Two weeks ago I celebrated “Do The Ricky Bobby” by Dallas/Ft. Worth’s B-Hamp, and now Arlington’s G-Spot Boyz have entered the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart at No. 95 then jumped up to No. 82 this week with “Stanky Legg,” which involves extending one lower appendage and then the other out as far as possible, thereby accentuating their utter stankiness. Judging from the song’s video, it helps to do said dance while wearing plaid Bermuda shorts, and it’s also possible while ghost-riding the whip. “I don’t chicken noodle soup,” one G-Spot Boy warns at one point; I’m not sure, though, what “Stick your leg out Doug E. Fresh and drop it low” means. Homemade viral videos are of course encouraged. One by a teacher already exists, as does one in which a girl named Kyesha demonstrates the dance to her dad and kid sister.
I'd copy the youtube links, but who knows if they still work. Anyway, seems the song is finally taking off, now under the more radio-friendly group name GS Boyz. Heard it in a rentavan two weeks ago while driving from NY to Bucks County (to pick up aforementioned boxes full of mix cassetes from storage, among other things); I liked it more than "I Love College" by Asher Roth (which may or may not be completely horrible), but not as much as "Day 'N Nite" by Kid Cudi or "Heat Rocks" by Raekwon (probably my favorite rap single of '09 so far - basically, a retooling of Grandmaster Flash's rarely heard "Flash To The Beat.") (None of which has much, if anything, to do with country music, obviously. But hey, Frank brought it up, not me.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 2 March 2009 19:12 (seventeen years ago)
new Bela Fleck semi-successfully unites west African/bluegrass banjo, goes on too long probably. after listening to The Music in My Head, Bela, forgeddabout it.
I do like what MX-80 were getting at, and right, Mark Hood's Echo Park studio is where I guess John Cougar got started up there in Bloomington. The sampler I mentioned is a fairly good representation of the Bloomington scene circa, looks like about 1975--experimental thrash from MX-80, country-soul-folk from Bob Lucas, and a fairly amazing sorta early funk-electro-disco track by Caroline Peyton and Mark Bingham, "Lay in Your Groove," which is a bridge between the midwestern avant-funk that I guess bands like the MC5 paid homage to--hard funk with a nasty edge--and the stuff that was coming up. "Party Line," the club-disco cut on Peyton's '77 Intution, is similar. And Peyton probably could have made some kind of career out of being an avant-jazz screamer, on the evidence of "Lay in Your Groove" she could make some pretty unearthly sounds and that record really takes off in the run-off when it's kinda like Energy Music. But yeah, sometimes Intution strikes me as an Asylum Records thing, right down to the somewhat ropey blues cut "Donkey Blues" and the hair-gelled "Still with You," which is perfectly listenable, even elegantly done, country-rock. I mean it's possible these people could've been as big as Quarterflash had they had a more banal and all-American moneygrubbing collective soul, so it's a record that somehow or another sums up Certain Tendencies in Pop Circa 1977 but doesn't manage to be as compelling as it almost is...
― whisperineddhurt, Monday, 2 March 2009 20:59 (seventeen years ago)
Speaking of Peyton's excursions, I mentioned above the inclusion of Screaming Gypsy Bandits tracks on one of the new reissues; please encourage her to get the whole SGB out, Edd, though I know it's not just her say-so. Also please post a link here to yr Isbell piece, sorry if you already emailed it to me, I've been swamped lately (still gotta check xhuxx's blog post too) Here's my two cents-and it really is two, given the show preview word limit (may try to do more later, there's def more to be done) The Drive-By Truckers’ Jason Isbell went solo with “Sirens of the Ditch,” where poignant, sometimes tragicomic situations rolled through gravelly grooves. On “Jason Isbell and the 440,” Isbell’s road-tested band drives further into the cloudy electric horizons of “Sirens,” still piloting by the lights of homely detail. Isbell’s restless people are even more stoned on soulful memories (“She’s down deep in me still/Rolled up like a twenty dollar bill”), but the music knows the way. “Maybe I’ll flag down a car/I’m not going too far/And I’ve got cash.” Good plan! Welcome to the South, xhuxx...
― dow, Monday, 2 March 2009 22:07 (seventeen years ago)
Speaking of Bucks County, turns out frat-party-loving Asher Roth is actually from there -- Morrisville, to be precise. Not that that really gives Morrisville anything to brag about. Though then again, I figured Eminem and Beck as corny one-hit novelty wonders when I heard their first radio hits, too. But Roth's hit reminds me niche-wise more of earlier suburban (or at least surburban-like) Philly twerps like Dead Milkmen, Atom & His Package, the Hooters -- except a more "hip hop" version, theoretically. (Though I swear, when I heard "I Love College" on the radio, I couldn't figure out if he was trying to rap, or just talk, or what.)
Favorite song on Jason Aldean's album may well be the Top 20 country hit "She's Country," which unless I've forgotten something obvious has the most AC/DC ('80s-AC/DC, but still) guitar riffs ever in a country hit -- almost as much a "Back In Black" sample as the Beastie Boys' "Rock Hard" 24 years ago. Which is kinda wacky given that the song is about being "country" (not unlike "Country Star," one of the most rock songs on Pat Green's new album.)
Strangely, given what Caramanica wrote about a Jake Owen track last week, I compared the guitar riff in Aldean's "Hicktown" to Black Sabbath on Rolling Country a few years ago. Later retracted that somewhat; decided I'd hyperbolized a little. Still think that Aldean's biggest distinction may be the use of occasional rock riffs that feel more "heavy" than "hard." Though you could now say the same about the guitars in Eric Church's "Smoke A Little Smoke" -- interesting, since Eric Church apparently doesn't like Aldean much. Or at least he pretends not to.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 00:31 (seventeen years ago)
(Actually, Montgomery Gentry got a somewhat blatant AC/DC rip onto country radio a few years ago, come to think of it -- "Hell Yeah," I think it was? But Aldean's, if you hear it, is way more blatant. Which isn't to claim it's as good a song.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 00:35 (seventeen years ago)
Aldean's rock stuff really seems to come from Bad Company, Shooting Star and the often submediocre rock stuff after that. I can totally hear him doing "Young Blood." It's just slightly below mid-tempo with the thud-whack simpleton thump of Simon Kirke, the Brit drummer most successful at entirely eliminating fun shuffles from BC's version of blooz rock. That sort of style really plays to the jutting man of action thing that Aldean peddles.
― Gorge, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 01:08 (seventeen years ago)
xp "She's Country" is also the first country hit I know of ever to quote "She's a Bad Mamma Jamma" by Carl Carlton.
Also blatant so far this year:
Guitars in Pat Green's "Let Me" = "Summer Breeze" by Seals and CroftsMelody of Dierks Bentley's "Better Believer" = "Photograph" by Ringo Starr
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 01:12 (seventeen years ago)
"suburban" was thinking, on my way over here, that all the power pop I like could be considered boondocks: the Shoes (Zion, Illinois); Dwight Twilley (somewhere in Oklahoma); Big Star (Memphis, which was scruffy as hail back then, and they took their name from that of a not-so-super supermarket, at least it wasn't super back then, but right across from the studio parking lot); Tommy Keene (somewhere in Mississippi); Sneakers/dbs (mostly from Winston-Salem, mostly R.J.Reynolds High, Class of '75 There were exceptions of course(Todd Rungren was from Philly or Pittsburg; Harry Nelson/Nilsson was from L.A, I guess, though might have been from a bad neighborhood like Beck) Isolation and wishful thinking=fewer distractions/options, more motivation (of a sort/specialized arc)(like where are they all now, but you could say that about most people)But countrywise, some of today's top Nashville Cats, like Pat Buchanan, were power popsters early on.
― dow, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 03:34 (seventeen years ago)
Most cringe-worthy current hit I'm hearing on country radio in Texas so far: "I Wish" by female-fronted Christian-pop veterans Point of Grace, now crossing over to country (unless they crossed over previously and I was lucky enough not to notice):
I wish there was a cure for cancerI wish somebody had an answerAnd all God's children never got hurtI wish Eve never bit that appleYoung men never went to battleAnd I didn't get so mad at the worldI wish I was more like JesusAnd could pick up all the piecesAnd make a better life for my baby girl
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 23:11 (seventeen years ago)
"I wish I was more like Jesus and could pick all the pieces": Yeah, "more like" should help me do that. I second QuantumNoise, if that's who it was saying Joan Baez was actually pretty good sometimes when in a country mode or mood, like in the 60s with "I Still Miss Someone"(except when she went too high on its bridge), "When You Hear Them Cuckoos Hollerin'," and several from-the-belly Spanish-language songs. Her One Day At A Time LP was before the show of that name, but title song was Willie's (def not the show's), when he and even the saying weren't that well known. She was pregnant on the cover, waiting while her husband was in the Pen for inciting anti-draft activitiies. Had some rolling spirt, accentuated by several duets (incl title track) with Jeffrey Shurtleff (sp?), who sounded a bit like Elvis's folkier side, but not glum like "Kentucky Rain" Elvis, or not so much. Also--kind of funny that Steve Earle should be the one to reign in Queen B.'s mannerisms a bit, but he can be a pretty astute producer of others, and sometimes of himself. Her band's pretty good too, with Solas-co-founder John Doyle, Todd Phillips, Dirk Powell (songer and multi-picker and hubby of bayou heartbreaker Christine Balfa) Anyway, another show preview (didn't have room to say that Earle wrote the song I quote in front) "Everyday that passes/I'm sure about a little less/Even my money keeps tellin' me/It's God I need to trust/And I believe in God/But God ain't us." "God Is God" sets the unsettled tone of Joan Baez's latest album, "The Day After Tomorrow." Producer Steve Earle seeks to keep the Queen of 60s Folk Music on a solid spirit level, with compact cadences and carefully selected songs. Further along, Patty Griffin's "Mary" is "covered in roses...covered in slashes," finding her (and/or Her) way through the story's edits, somewhat like everybody else.
― dow, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 04:39 (seventeen years ago)
Her road band's the trio I list; lots of other worthy players and singers on the album.
― dow, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 04:43 (seventeen years ago)
"I Wish" despicably now at #57 on Hot Country Songs, btw. "Shuttin Detroit Down" (which is being played to death on Houston radio) inches up one notch to #17; "High Cost of Living" stalled at #43; Miley's "The Climb" (her first solo country charter, unless I'm wrong) debuts at #48, as does something called "Runaway" (always a promising title) by somebody named Love and Theft (late Dylan fans?) at #60. Have yet to hear "High Cost" or "Blue Jeans and A Rosary" (which climbs slightly to #50) on the radio in Texas. Did decide I kind of like "Brand New Girlfriend" by Steve Holy though (only hit song ever to mention a "shitzu hound"?). When is that from? And who the heck is Steve Holy, anyway?
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 05:14 (seventeen years ago)
"Runaway" makes Love and Theft sound more like Firefall and Pure Prairie League (and later in the song, Def Leppard and Bryan Adams) fans than late-period Dylan fans, totally fine by me. Something in chorus's melody reminds me of "Just Remember I Love You" by Firefall. Three heart-throbby boys strumming and chiming harmonies; one is said to be the Stephen from a Taylor Swift song. I like it:
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:51 (seventeen years ago)
And to answer my other question, "Brand New Girlfriend" by Dallas native and Curb recording artist Steve Holy turns out to have gone #1 country in 2005. But according to Wiki, Holy has only charted country with three songs since then, none higher than #35. So for now at least, a has-been.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 21:05 (seventeen years ago)
i liked 'brand new girlfriend.' but holy's career has been so weird, i hesitate to count him out. his first singles stopped shy of nowhere, and then 'good morning beautiful' was a slow burn that finally sat at no. 1 country for weeks (which i never really warmed to, but seemed like a natural hit, sweet as it was). it kept low embers from there, staying in backup rotation, keeping the album on shelves. so even though his debut album was in 2000, he still managed another no. 1 country hit in 2005 from his sophomore (released half a dozen years after the debut). he's a good performer, but not a great one. regardless, i figure he'll be back if he can ever get another album out.
― paper mohney, Thursday, 12 March 2009 17:10 (seventeen years ago)
yeah, I think I saw Holy once here in town and he struck me as being almost a good singer, but he had a weird, almost menacing stage presence.
Decided that I liked Eric Church's record more the third or fourth spin; I'm impressed by the sheer flow of the thing, and the way that there really seems to be a side A and B. He apparently planned it that way. I think he's one sly operator all round, and he manipulates pop quite well. Even the strings and the "African" percussion work here. Could be that "Where She Told Me to Go" is the absolute great song on the record, but there's more to this record than songs.
Also halfway liked the Defibulators' Corn Money, having been into Dave Dudley, Buck Owens and the Mar-Keys for most of my life. Clatter of the record is a turn-off; I wrote a pick on their upcoming Nashville show and said that it sounded like it was recorded both for and from AM radio. But "Go-Go Truck" is a cool Dudley pastiche. The lunacy seems a bit forced, but I like the idea.
New Glenn Tilbrook has a cool Doug Sahm pastiche that leads off, complete with accordion. Pandemonium Ensues.
Here's my Nashville Scene piece on Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit.
― whisperineddhurt, Thursday, 12 March 2009 17:21 (seventeen years ago)
Pretty certain by now that I like the new Pat Green and Rodney Atkins (which sounds great, and hasn't been mentioned here before) more than the new Eric Church, which I've decided has a fairly sub-par second side, at least until the guitars it ends on. New/imminent Urban, Bentley, and Aldean (probably in that order) all stike me as iffier, though they all have moments I like and/or love, and the 100%-lovey-dovey but sometimes kicking Urban could be a grower. Doing a roundup of all these for the Voice; if anybody has opinions about which of these dudes are the hunkiest (Urban and Bentley, right?) or un-hunkiest (Aldean maybe?), please state your case.
Thought the Defibulators (whom I mentioned upthread) very much lacked the music to support their schtick, which isn't all that amusing a schtick to begin with.
Thought the new Dave Alvin was mostly dull, despite a couple engaging cuts, most notably the spoken one about Big Joe Turner. Only got through four or so songs on the new Cherry-Poppin-Daddyfied swing-revivaly Wayne Hancock.
Think it's way too early for a Shooter Jennings best-of (after only three studio albums, wtf?), but the live version of "Daddy's Farm" (apparently actually from a barely distributed live album I never heard) is the heaviest thing I've ever heard from him. George should hear it, and should also hear Charlie Sexton (who I've never cared about at all before) doing "You're Doin' It Too Hard" hard on the new Doug Sahm tribute on Vanguard; also like the Flaco Jiminez, Delbert McClinton, and Joe "King" Carrasco cuts on that one, and don't remotely mind the no-name covers of "Mendocino" and "She's About A Mover" or the Los Lobos brown-eyed-soul tune--which I guess makes it a keeper, at least a marginal one. (Like somebody said above, tribute albums are always more viable when you don't know the originals, and I'm a long way from being an expert on most Doug Sahm.)
George might also like some stuff on the upcoming Mick Fleetwood Blues Band live album, which I've actually played all the way through four times, strangely enough. Ultimately too stodgy, and it takes too long to get going, but the backloaded six/seven-minute "Black Magic Woman" and especially "Shake Your Moneymaker" crank. Don't mind the more boogie-woogie/New Orleans r&b/"My Toot Toot"- rhythm tracks scattered through, either.
― xhuxk, Friday, 13 March 2009 16:48 (seventeen years ago)
Also worth noting that the Shooter best-of omits "Little White Lines" and "Hair of the Dog," my two favorite tracks on Electric Rodeo, which increases its pointlessness quotiet even more.
More marginal blues-rock that doesn't quite make it: Black Joe Lewis & the Honeybears on Lost Highway. I like when he pretends to be Mitch Ryder, Wilson Pickett, Howlin' Wolf, and Slim Harpo more than he pretends to be James Brown. But not that much more.
Best old-school soul-revival I've heard in a long time is Betty Padgett's Luv N' Haight on Ubiquity -- real good covers of "My Eyes Adored You" (smooth reggae) and "Rockin' Chair," plus "Sugar Daddy" is the catchiest, warmest, most propulsive early (as in mid '70s) disco facsimile in recent memory. Also, the gal can sing. (Apparently this is a comeback, but if I skimmed her bio right and she did indeed record in the '70s, I never heard her.)
Songs I may well like even more than the Joan-Jetty single "Do It For Free" on the new Sarah Borges: "Yesterday's Love" (which totally gets the hookiness of 1978 Costello sound pub-wave down), "I'll Show You How" ("Hey Little Girl"/Sonics-riffed sex-predator garage rock from a gurl's point of view but with singing that doesn't try to sound garage), "It Comes To Me Naturally" (early Nick Lowe power-pub-pop with Yardbirds/Zevon "A Certain Girl" backup call and response), aforementioned cover of Smokey's "Being With You." Which makes five tracks I like a lot out of ten: a real good batting average.
Still trying to get the hang of Austin radio. Weird being in a place where you can hear not just Alan Jackson but Robert Earl Keen on the air. There's what seems to be a fairly mainstream commercial country station, but also another station (98.1) that mixes commercial country hits with more old classics and plenty of "Texas music" that I doubt gets much airplay in any other state. (For instance, they played Joe Ely's "Honky Tonk Masquerade" the other day, a song I've loved for nearly three decades but don't think I've ever actually heard on commercial radio before.) And there's also a Triple A station that seems to mix in country on occassion.
― xhuxk, Friday, 13 March 2009 17:20 (seventeen years ago)
And oh yeah, Black Joe Lewis should not be confused with the similarly named and similarly marginal Soul Of John Black, who I reviewed for Rolling Stone here:
http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/25823377/review/25895699/black_john
And a Brooklyn-boho old-school folk-country prankster album I liked more (though not that much more) than the Defibulators' one is the one by Andy Friedman, which I reviewed for emusic here:
http://www.emusic.com/album/Andy-Friedman-Weary-Things-MP3-Download/11371123.html
― xhuxk, Friday, 13 March 2009 17:27 (seventeen years ago)
i'd guess the shooter jennings best of is contract filler. he's done okay album-wise, but hasn't had a hit single since "4th of july." depends on what, exactly, universal thought they were getting.
― mte, Friday, 13 March 2009 17:37 (seventeen years ago)
you need a copy of Mendocino, Chuck. that's the Sahm to start with.
yeah, the Defibulators are tiresome over the long haul, but I do like a few of those "songs." I guess I hear it as too much music, though, instead of not enough; the same old guitaristic obsessions and formalist winks getting in the way of, you know, the basics.
thinking of going to this Keith Urban Press Conference next wk at BMI here. will keep you informed, maybe Nicole will be there.
― whisperineddhurt, Friday, 13 March 2009 18:30 (seventeen years ago)
Favorite songs on Aaron Tippin's way tougher than I remembered him Greatest Hits...And Then Some from 1997 which I bought for $3 on CD at Austin's "Citywide Garage Sale" today: "A Door," "I Got It Honest," and "The Call Of The Wild," the latter of which may well be the most Cramps-like wolf-howl I've ever heard from a modern Nashville country singer. (Aaron's howling about a woman who gets loud at night, and I'm guessing he and the Cramps share inspiration of some wild-haired old rockabilly I can't place.) Xgau wrote at the time that Tippin was "as prole as Music Row gets," which may or may not be true, though I'd say "Working Man's Ph.D" is more prole than Bob's own two faves, namely "Cold Grey Kentucky Morning" and "There Ain't Nothin' Wrong With The Radio," both (actually all three) of which I also like. Also want to note that Tippin's down-and-out ballad-singing voice reminds me of John Conlee sometimes. And his mustache on the front and back cover reminds me of a '70s porn star.
Upcoming album by Martina McBride sounds better (ballsier, bluesier, darker, more energetic, more involved) than her last couple, at least after a couple listens, but that's all I can claim so far. Except that I read on line that Martina was one of the people (Sheryl Crow was another) attending a record preview party this week by some new band of Jack White (which also includes one each person from the Greenhornes, the Kills, and Queens of the Stone Age.) I don't have especially high hopes for the band, but I still think it's cool Martina was there.
Turns out on subsequent listens that Betty Padgett is maybe a more average B-or-C-level soul voice than I implied in my post yesterday (and her covers of the Frankie Valli and Gwen McRae are less astonishing than I may have implied), but I still like her album, especially her very convincingly disco-bubbly single "Sugar Daddy" (incl. its second version with background party voices), where I'm pretty sure I read in an email press release earlier this week that she's backed by Detroit indie-rock Afrobeat nine-piece Nomo (whose first couple albums sounded funky enough, but whose upcoming one doesn't hold my attention for some reason. Never heard their third. Do like where they're coming from, however.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 15 March 2009 04:01 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, probably good percentage, if I ever see it. "Black Magic Woman" never cranked, though. "Shake Your Moneymaker" did, illustrating the split personality of Fleetwood Mac as one of the most successful during the Brit white boy blooz boom. Jeremy Spencer fronted the band on the Elvis-flavored stuff like "Moneymaker". Peter Green took over for everything else. Be interested to know if Fleetwood dug up Bob Brunning to play on this, since he was one of the first members of Fleetwood Mac.
Actually, the best buy for blooz boom stuff now is the 3-disc reissue of Mike Vernon-produced Chicken Shack, originally on Blue Horizon. Two thirds of it has Christine McVie singing every other number, alternating with Stan Webb. By the third disc, McVie --then Perfect -- has left and Webb has taken Chicken Shack heavy for Accept Chicken Shack. The band would spin off into Savoy Brown and UFO.
And if it's remakes/revisits you like in this vein, the new Foghat live album kills. Even though half of Foghat, including Lonesome Dave, is dead. Hard to figure how this is done, but everyone in the band is all on the same page, spiritually, I guess. Thirty five years later, they do "Fool for the City" like their lives depended on it. And I saw the originals do it many times.
― Gorge, Sunday, 15 March 2009 06:23 (seventeen years ago)
Huhx, my fave Sir Doug is mostly from the 70s or late 60s, def Mendocino, as Edd says, though don't know how its baked wired mellow sound comes across on CD (it's more consistently focused than some of his, though). Also (these are all billed as Sir Douglas Quintet): The Return of Doug Saldana, with more actual Chicano scientists than usual in SDQ albums; Together After Five (skoal yall); Rough Edges ("Doin' It Too Hard," which might have inspired the Tex-Mex section of "Sister Ray", plus Tom T. Hall's "The Homecoming," many other lost wages rescued by Paul Nelson, for a new grab bag). Also ragged and rugged is 1+1=4, with horns (which turn up here and there on various other albums)This takes Gatemouth Brown's Texas blues-bop toward Coltrane on one track, which is still mostly funky, and 2-man high school marching band overall. More horns, getting a little Texas lounge-y at times, but with tight small group tracks too, on The Sir Douglas Band's Texas Tornado. Most tracks from this and Doug Sahm And Band, plus prev unissued from the latter sessions, can be found on Rhino's The Best of Doug Sahm & Friends: Atlantic Sessions. I liked the And Band stuff a lot more than expected, considering what Marcus and xgau's sympathetic but low-ish ratings (xgau's pretty good on Doug overall, though)Border Wave was the SDQ comeback, in the heyday of Rockpile etc; their Day Dreaming At Midnight is marred by the hair metal licks of son Shawn Sahm, according to some, but I like it, esp vs some of the songs' Dad commentary (although they Texas psych punk out on an sncient track by Mother Earth, who I had no idea ever did such thangs, thought it was all about Tracy Nelson's waves of gravity)Oh yeah, other excavations: Norton Records' Doug Sahm, San Antonio Rock: The Harlem Recordings 1957-1961 --I haven't listened that it much yet, but I dig Edsel Records' She's About A Mover-The Best of Doug Sahm and the Sir Douglas Quintet, which is I think a volume in a series, The Crazy Cajun Recordings. Anyway, 60s tracks, like prob original "Mover" (which gets "that freaky guitar--you musta learned that in San Francisco," he informs himself on the excellent Mendocino re-make). And some great prev unissued, like extended "Funky Side of Your Mind," more VU-bait, though it's also a studio zen forensic. In fact--xhuxx I'll send you an email
― dow, Sunday, 15 March 2009 18:50 (seventeen years ago)
And of course we mustn't forget the hits 'n' tits of the Texas Tornados!
― dow, Sunday, 15 March 2009 18:56 (seventeen years ago)
The LP referred to as 1+1=4 is actually 1+1+1=4, and I meant it employs the approach I associate with Gatemouth Brown, not his actual presence, alas.
― dow, Sunday, 15 March 2009 19:01 (seventeen years ago)
xhuxk wrote: Pretty certain by now that I like the new Pat Green and Rodney Atkins (which sounds great, and hasn't been mentioned here before) more than the new Eric Church
I haven't heard the Rodney Atkins album yet, that "America" single kind of turned me off from hearing it. I'd love to hear more about why it sounds great.
― erasingclouds, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 16:19 (seventeen years ago)
This is what I said on my livejournal today about the recent Rascal Flatts and Carrie Underwood songs (according to Wiki the Underwood isn't being pushed to radio yet but is doing big business as a download, thanks to its American Idol tie-in):
Rascal Flatts "Here Comes Goodbye": I like the specificity of the lyrics, how he knows he's losing her: her ringing the doorbell where previously she'd come right in. The high-pitched twang of the singing against the strings and pedal steel has a neutralizing effect, however, like white against a white sky. BORDERLINE NONTICK.
Carrie Underwood "Home Sweet Home": Placid ballad to kiss American Idol losers goodbye with. Given weightier instrumentation and heavier singing than is good for it, but her voice is warm. BORDERLINE TICK.
On fourth listen or so I'm liking "Home Sweet Home" less and less. Carrie's singing is strained on a song that I'd have thought would have been a simple glide for an excellent mimic like her. And "placid" here means "wet blanket." But I think it's a good song, and I say this without having any memory of the Mötley Crüe original.
The Singles Jukebox is back, though no longer associated with the defunct Stylus, obviously. Four different reviewers per track, they haven't done any country yet but "Home Sweet Home" is in the hopper, should be up in several days.
― Frank Kogan, Friday, 20 March 2009 08:07 (seventeen years ago)
When you type "love and theft" into the YouTube search box, the suggestions YouTube gives are:
love and theftlove and theft musiclove and theft bandlove and theft stephenlove and theft bob dylanlove and theft it's up to youlove and theft taylor swiftlove and theft you to misslove and theft download
― Frank Kogan, Friday, 20 March 2009 09:19 (seventeen years ago)
Hey erasingclouds, I should actually save my longer Atkins notes for my Voice roundup piece, but yeah, I find "It's America" fairly irritating too -- starting with its idiotic, bigoted idea that only in America would neighbors help neighbors when there's a natural disaster -- but it's not nearly the best track on the album. Which has many good Stones riffs.
Glanced through this week's charts, and nothing is startling me -- "High Cost of Living" and "Blue Jeans And A Rosary" start to dip slightly, Love and Theft slowly climbing, Carrie debuting with her Crue cover, etc. -- but am wondering what these three at the bottom of the list are. Anyboy out there know?
58 NEW 1 Boy Like Me, Jessica Harp J.Flowers (J.Flowers ) Warner Bros. DIGITAL | WRN | 58 59 56 2 Keep The Change, Holly Williams J.Neibank (H.Lindsey,L.Laird ) Mercury DIGITAL | 56 60 NEW 1 Address In The Stars, Caitlin & Will C.Lindsey (C.Lynn,C.Lindsey,H.Lindsey,A.Mayo ) Columbia PROMO SINGLE | 60
I've been listening to Southern soul on the radio in Austin; commented on songs called "Southern Soul Party" and "I Need A Bailout" here in recent days:
Chitlin Circuit Double-entendre -filled Soul 2004 (and onward) Theodis Ealey's "Stand Up In It" is a song of the year
― xhuxk, Friday, 20 March 2009 17:04 (seventeen years ago)
Last week was Grand Ole Opry week on American Idol. Adam Lambert's "Ring Of Fire" was indescribably terrible, but still one of only two performances this week worth hearing more than twice, and I urge you to listen. The guy has ideas, even if putting them together produces a misshapen mess. And I actually liked Kris Allen doing "Make You Feel My Love"; gave it a light step, turning it into gentle slush and ignoring the lyrics' buried aggression, which is fine with me. (I have a little more to say about last week's Idol on my livejournal.
― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 22 March 2009 08:48 (seventeen years ago)
"Boy Like Me" is Jessica Harp (of the Wreckers) saying that she's the kind of girl who likes the kind of boys who like the kind of girls who like to drink and fuck on the first date, but not saying it quite like that. Has a nice rocking crackle and strong slide playing in the break; the arrangement ends up overwhelming her voice, but the track isn't bad.
I don't know Caitlin & Will's "Address In The Stars," but their "Even Now" is a good duet where a couple sing about playing breakup and infidelity games to hurt each other and to get even with each other and without knowing how to stop the hurtfulness or stop loving one another, but the way I've said it is clumsier than the song's way; has got good reworkings of the title phrase (they're even now, meaning they're getting even with each other, but they love each other even now, and aren't they finally even now, so they can stop the love wars?). Caitlin's got a good half wail, and the song does a good job of trading points of view, starting with them singing separately and then bringing the vocals together as they try to keep the relationship together.
First I ever heard Caitlin & Will was a few days ago. Here's their MySpace, which I'll listen to in the next few days. "Even Now" is the first track up.
― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 22 March 2009 09:17 (seventeen years ago)
Love & Theft's "Runaway" is one of my favorite tracks this year; I wouldn't say it's anything special; it's confidently off-hand in its harmonies and rhythms, sets its hooks nicely and then just keeps rolling along.
― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 22 March 2009 09:27 (seventeen years ago)
Have to check those. White against white doesn't have to be self-cancelling, if you get the textures right. Lucinda Williams and yacht rock, for instance
― dow, Sunday, 22 March 2009 20:20 (seventeen years ago)
Still need to peruse those Jessica Harp and Caitlin & Will numbers. (The latter duo are said to be Can You Duet alumni, like Joey + Rory before.)
Thought Adam Lambert's quasi-middle-eastern-undulating hush-goth elongation of "Ring Of Fire" was interesting enough for one time, though not as entertaining as Randy Travis's reaction to the guy , or Wall of Voodoo dooing it in the early '80s (or Celtic Frost dooing Wall of Voodoo in the late '80s.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 02:18 (seventeen years ago)
Did not manage to catch any of the many Those Darlins sets during SXSW (hard to leave home early enough to get to a bar by noon, or even 3 pm), though I expect I'll have other chances now that I'm in Austin. Also didn't catch the Saturday night set by reportedly "country metal" Rascal Flatts-hit songwriter Jeffrey Steele. Did make it to a 4 pm Friday set by Sarah Borges and the Broken Singles, though, and thought they rocked both exuberantly and hilariously; what most took me by surprise was the dominant-submissive on-stage rapport between Sarah and her scraggly little bassist Biggie (who had some good goofy one-liners, like one about how he would put a wallet in each back pocket next time after Sarah took him to task for his lack of booty.) They sure don't seem like a Boston band, and that's a compliment (unless you're the Dropkick Murphys I guess.) (Or okay, the Cars or J. Geils or, uh, Boston. But you get the idea.) Some local giveaway sheet takes their new album to task for having songs that sound like Joan Jett and the early Pretenders (which I guess makes them not alt-country enough), but I hear the harder rocking stuff as an improvement. Had no idea they were covering Magnetic Fields and Lemonheads numbers on their new CD along with Smokey Robinson (not to mention Any Trouble, who turn out to be the source of the pub-rock track I like so much "Yesterday's Love"), and I honestly don't think I'm any worse off for learning the truth.
Like upcoming albums by Texas songsters I never heard of before and will inevitably confuse with each other Ryan Bingham (on Lost Highway) and Scott Biram (on Bloodshot) more than the upcoming album by hypster-hyped Texas garage band Strange Boys. The former two have more boogie than I would have predicted, though I haven't decided if they have any worthy songs. The Strange Boys once in a while slip into some semblance of mid '60s Dylan groove, but their songs would be a lot more memorable if they didn't insist on slopping them to hell all the time. Just makes the record hard to sit through, though they might have potential if they drop the schtick.
Way better than any of those: Heavy Chevy ZZ-style blooze-metal from Rufus Huff, Kentucky men featuring Headhunters guitar killer Greg Martin. George and Frank and Don should all check out that one when it comes out in April. (And George needs to hear Ian Gillan's new One Eye To Morocco, which I also like a whole lot, but it's not country at all. Parts might make sense on a jazz-fusion thread, though.)
And speaking of Don, thanks for all the Doug Sahm burns (+ Steeldrivers, too.) I'll get to them sooner or later, I promise. Will report back when I do.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 02:44 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, probably good percentage, if I ever see it. "Black Magic Woman" never cranked, though. "Shake Your Moneymaker" did, illustrating the split personality of Fleetwood Mac as one of the most successful during the Brit white boy blooz boom. Jeremy Spencer fronted the band on the Elvis-flavored stuff like "Moneymaker". Peter Green took over for everything else.
In addition to the rock & roll oldies, Spencer handled vocals on all the Elmore Jams throwdowns. Also, Danny Kirwan handled vocals on numerous tracks. Whenever I want to play Peter Green-era Fleetwood Mac for somebody I start with the three volumes of live material recorded at the Boston Tea Party in 1970. I then play them a smattering of the singles: "Oh Well," "Green Manalishi," "Man of the World." They are one of my all time fave bands and really quite versatile: Chicago blues, psych-pop, folkie stuff, Flamin' Groovies-like oldies, extended hippie jams (23-minute version of "Rattlesnake Shake), boogie rock and even some proto-metal.
― QuantumNoise, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 12:55 (seventeen years ago)
xp I'm actually getting the idea that the Strange Boys' even-looser-than-Black-Lips slacker routine -- the impression that they're too stoned and layabouty to bother making their songs coherent -- is probably actually very Austin (though obviously it's also been an aesthetic running through indie-rock forfuckingever, from Flaming Lips and Dinosaur Jr. to Sebadoh and Pavement and Beck to No Age and Times New Viking etc.) And while the aesthetic doesn't always preclude making good records, it's usually an irritant at this late date, maybe even more than a decade or two ago. (Got tired of the new Black Lips after a few listens, and couldn't get into this new CD by Wavves either -- more indie kids who got a lot of SXSW hype tossed at them this year. Though maybe not as much hype as now ten-years-gone Doug Sahm.)
Anyway, here's a piece on music from a couple few-years-old collections of (often countryish) music from the Great Depression that I wrote for a mag called Good. The theme is probably more forced than I wish, and the ending's kinda flat. Plus I wrote it before John Rich's Detroit song:
http://www.good.is/?p=15807
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:57 (seventeen years ago)
Teen-pop stoner revives me-decade yacht-rock classic for space-buddy movie (# 20 on Radio Disney countdown this week, apparently):
― xhuxk, Thursday, 26 March 2009 02:30 (seventeen years ago)
Btw, Caitlin & Will's mushy new ballad single about unsuccessfully attempting to mail a letter to a dead loved one is not nearly as good as their cheating-on-each-other song (which is indeed great. And it's been a while since a country couple hit with one of those, hasn't it? Except I have no idea if Caitlin & Will are a couple, in the romantic sense. Plus "Even Now" wasn't actually a hit, apparently. I do like how neither duo member seems physically attractive in any traditional American sense, however.)
I'd probably like Carrie Underwood's "Home Sweet Home" better if it was "Every Rose Has Its Thorn" or "I Won't Forget You" instead. But it's okay.
Come to think of it, I'd also probably like Alyson Stoner's "Dancing In The Moonlight" better if it was "Moonlight Feels Right" instead. And that techno-y part toward the end freaks me out. But it's okay, too. I enjoy her inflections, and any record that reminds today's kids of the early roots of country-disco is nothing to complain about. Though I sure never took "they don't bark and they don't bite" as literally as the directors of her video seem to.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 26 March 2009 03:15 (seventeen years ago)
Intriguing excerpts from Black Key Dan Auebach's solo album in Ed Ward's NPR review. As he says, end-of-60s psych bluesoid--with some pop in there somewhere, not too far from the (post-end-of-60s) ZZ Top (although I never heard the Moving Sidewalks, American Blues, or other pre-ZZ bands that the Toppers were in, maybe some catchiness there too) Not exactly hooks, not in these excerpts, but some nice beardo stuff that hops around the room: I wouldn't put it past him to cover Blues Image's "Ride Captain Ride." Both Keys did recently do a good version of Captain Beefheart's "Her Eyes Are A Blue Million Miles"(one of his more "commercial" tracks, or that seems to have been the idea) for a Warners anniversary comp.
― dow, Thursday, 26 March 2009 05:07 (seventeen years ago)
Oh, and xhuxx, be sure to start (or get to, while you're still at it)Best of Doug Sahm and The Sir Douglas Quintet (1968-1975), the one on Polygram with him holding stringed instruments like they'd just sprouted from his outer thighs, which maybe they did. Be in a Random Play state of mind, and pretend it's a whole carousel of dif discs, rather than just one.(QuantumNoise, I hear you on early F.Mac)
― dow, Thursday, 26 March 2009 05:12 (seventeen years ago)
"Auerbach," that is.
― dow, Thursday, 26 March 2009 05:14 (seventeen years ago)
Caitlin & Will's "Even Now" was slated as their single and had been released with a video and everything and then to the duo's surprise the record company pulled it in favor of the mushy dead letter song.
As many of you know 'Even Now' has been our new single for 4 weeks...well my Aunt Lisa up in heaven didnt like that and decided there should be a change (of course Columbia decided this, but I'm sure La had a hand in it)...
We have CHANGED our single that radio will play. 'Address in the Stars' is now the NEW single. Honestly it was a huge shock to Will and I, but we have had such an amazing response from EVERYONE in radio that it was hard to ignore.
I do have to say I called my family individually to tell them and I believe each one of them teared up or started crying. Honestly I can just see my Aunt La sitting in heaven with her legs dangling over some edge just giggling about the turn of events down here. Address was her last word I think.
My Aunt Tae said on the phone "I guess she got your letter" I then started sobbing because I didnt think of it that way. I guess she did after all. I guess its just one more way of telling my Aunt Lisa that I love her.
My rule is, if there's a vid, it's eligible for my singles list, so "Even Now" can contend. The Caitlin & Will EP is out today; most of it's up on their MySpace, which is still geared to sell "Even Now." According to a fan on YouTube, the "Even Now" video is "is just incredible, the best country video in years and probably the best ever made! WOW! Like OMG WOW!"
Jamie O'Neal album is due today too, according to Wiki. Have only heard the title track, "Like A Woman." Strangely, unless the tracks are mislabeled, there's a "radio edit" on the single that's longer than the "album version," has an extra verse at the start about working hard and feeling hemmed-in as a housewife. Instructions to husbands. (The melody is only average, but she's got a killer voice.)
― Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 20:46 (seventeen years ago)
Billboard article confirming what Don said upthread about the Drive By Truckers and Neil Young playing on the forthcoming Booker T. LP (due on April 21). It'll be all instrumentals, including a version of "Hey Ya."
― Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 05:59 (seventeen years ago)
I made this livejournal post referencing this livejournal conversation in regard to Lily Allen's countryesque "Not Fair," though our posts are also somewhat about this jukebox conversation about "Not Fair," and my post touches on country music's own uneasiness with its vocabulary.
(Oh, and there's a tiny bit of poptimists conversation about "Not Fair" in this week's Yet Another Year In Pop. Also, the crucial question is raised once again but not answered: who started the meme "Who let the dogs out, woof woof woof"? We can't trace it any further back than Gillette's "You're A Dog" in 1994, but that hardly means it's not from earlier.
― Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 17:31 (seventeen years ago)
Posted this on my livejournal (as part of my first quarter top 22):
Jamey Johnson, "High Cost Of Living": Exuberantly grim! It's a drunkalog, basically, and the apparent grimness is to try to fend off the call of the wild. The title and the lyrics in the chorus are built around a pun, and the track ends with Jamey laughing encouragement to his guitar player.
― Frank Kogan, Thursday, 2 April 2009 07:16 (seventeen years ago)
I need to check out most of the songs on Frank's Top 22-so-far. I like Shystie feat. Deekline and Timberlee feat. Tosh. Actually reviewed the Ryan Leslie and Mavado albums for Rolling Stone, believe it or not (I'll review whatever they assign me, and they've been assigning me some stuff way out of my ballpark); liked them both okay, though not enough to recommend them (and the Leslie/Jim Jones single isn't on Leslie's album anyway.) Listened to Lily Allen's twice over Rhapsody on my laptop, which never lets an album seep in as much as if I had physical copy, and it irritated me more in a Nelly McKay-type cabaret way than her debut (which I liked a lot) had, but I probably need to listen to it more.
I've actually got a copy of the MC Lars album here; didn't make it very far into it (after being amused enough by an EP he did several years ago to still own a copy), but I'll check out the track with the Donna singer and the Therapy? riff at least. (Amazed that Frank could identify a Therapy? riff; doubt I could, and actually sort of used to like them once.)
Anyway, since we're doing quarter-year best ofs, here's how my top 10 county singles and albums would probably look, if the entire year were to end today:
COUNTRY SINGLES
1. Jamey Johnson – “High Cost Of Living”2. John Rich – “Shuttin’ Detroit Down”3. Sarah Buxton – “Space”4. Love and Theft – “Runaway”5. Caitlin & Will – “Even Now”6. Floyd Taylor --- “Southern Soul Party”7. Trace Adkins – “I Can’t Outrun You”8. Jamie O’Neal – “Like A Woman”9. Megan Munroe - “Moonshine”10. Sarah Borges And The Broken Singles – “Do It For Free”
Floyd Taylor's song makes the list on the basis that it makes Southern Soul feel country partly by saying they're serving cole slaw at the golf course. Sarah Borges's song makes the list despite sounding like Joan Jett on the basis of most of her songs sounding more country than this one does. "I Can't Outrun You" qualifies the same way "Even Now" does -- though apparently not released as a single per se', it's got a video anyway (a few references to it on the web), though I've never seen it. John Rich's song would rank lower if it wasn't about Detroit.
ALBUMS
1. Megan Munroe – One More Broken String (Diamond)2. Pat Green – What I’m For (BNA)3. Rufus Huff – Rufus Huff (Zoho Roots)4. Sarah Borges And the Broken Singles – The Stars Are Out (Sugar Hill)5. Rodney Atkins -- It’s America (Curb)6. The Flatlanders – Hills And Valleys (New West)7. Eric Church – Carolina (Capitol)8. (Various) – The Man Of Somebody’s Dreams: A Tribute To The Songs Of Chris Gaffney (Yep Roc)9. Buckwheat Zydeco – Lay Your Burden Down (Alligator)10. The Boxmasters – Modbilly (Vanguard)
Something interesting is that, if the year were to end today, my top six or seven country singles would make my overall top ten singles list, but only my top one or two country albums would (if that.) Which means I've been paying way more attention to non-country albums than to non-county singles, I guess.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 2 April 2009 16:04 (seventeen years ago)
Convo last week re Buckwheat Zydeco from the Rolling Hard Rock thread:
the new Buckwheat Zydeco album Lay Your Burden Down on Alligator includes songs previously done by Led Zeppelin ("When The Levee Breaks,"originally Memphis Minnie), Brownsville Station ("Let Your Yeah Be Yeah," originally Jimmy Cliff), Gov't Mule (the title track), and Captain Beefheart (his long-ignored-probably-due-to-its-normalness Southern soul move "Too Much Time," always one of my favorites by him) -- though only the five-minute "Levee" really sounds like hard rock, at least so far. Anyway, I never cared at all about Buckwheat before (he's been around forever it seems, and his voice seems pretty average), but I like this record. Best original so far: "Throw Me Something Mister," which basically sounds like mid '60s funk-band instrumental with party-chant interjections.
― xhuxk, Thursday, March 26, 2009
By "mid '60s funk band" I guess I mean Meters, duh. Who didn't actually chart til the late '60s. Also, I get the idea that, in general here, Buckwheat employs his accordion like an organ, so I'm not sure how "zydeco" any of it really sounds. (Not that I'm a zydeco expert myself, and not that anybody reading a hard rock thread might care one way or the other.)
Buckwheat Zydecocranks up his accordionlike a metal god
Saw him close a showwith "Hey Joe" back in the dayShredding feedback hell
― Haikunym Mark II (Dimension 5ive), Friday, March 27, 2009
― xhuxk, Thursday, 2 April 2009 16:09 (seventeen years ago)
(Actually, re-eyeballing that very rough singles list, I think I'm overrating the Jamie O'Neal track a little -- like Frank suggested a few posts up, the song and tune don't quite equal her singing power. So it's entirely possible Sugarland's "It Happens" or Pat Green's "What I'm For" or Kid Rock's "Blue Jeans And A Rosary" or Trace Adkins' "Marry For Money" or Carrie Underwood's "The More Boys I Meet" or something deserves to be in the top 10 instead.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 2 April 2009 16:32 (seventeen years ago)
I "recognized" the Therapy? riff, which I don't remember having heard before, because when Moggy linked the MC Lars track she said "oh dear i just wrote a thing about how this song sounds like 'screamager' by therapy? and then realised it actually samples it when the chorus kicks in. I R SMRT. 'screamager' is a fucking awesome song, obviously. i'm not totally sure this song completely works but it's quite fun." Wiki says that "Screamager" was the hit track off the EP that made Therapy? popular and made it into the UK top ten in 1993. But believe it or not, the MC Lars track kills it, though I don't know how much credit to give Lars since his rap on it is a bore. And now I'll shut up about it because it's not country.
― Frank Kogan, Thursday, 2 April 2009 16:58 (seventeen years ago)
xp In completely unrelated news, I have made the entirely ill-informed decision (based soley on their stray tracks on 1978's far-from-great but occasionally entertaining Every Which Way But Loose soundtrack, which I bought for 75 cents at a thrift store last month and which features Clint Eastood and an orangutan on its cover) that I like Hank Thompson (whose "A Six Pack To Go" is quite boppily almost-Western-swinging trucker fare) way more than Mel Tillis (whose "Send Me Down To Tucson" is a rather creepy cheating ballad and whose "Coca Cola Cowboy" is worse and neither of which contain many or maybe even any of the stutters I was under the impression Mel was known for.) Anybody who knows more of these guys' music than me (which is to say, anybody who knows their music at all), please tell me whether I'm right or wrong about my preference. (Not sure why it's never occurred to me to check either fellow's music out before; just never have.)
Also notable on the soundtrack is an instrumental called "Eastwood's Alley Walk" which pays explicit homage to Morricone's Spaghetti Western music for a few notes at the end, whether Edd likes it or not.
And there's another "instrumental" that actually consists of doo-wop voices, not unlike the doo-wop homage toward the end of the Move's rocking nine-minute "Feel Too Good" off their very fun 1971 Looking On LP, which I bought for $1 at a garage sale last month. Makes me think somebody should do an EMP project on ironic/nostalgic doo-wop homages on '70s non-doo-wop records someday. (Though not me.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 2 April 2009 16:59 (seventeen years ago)
(Neither the Mavado nor the Leslie albums clicked for me overall, though I think I'm going to give the Leslie several more chances because he's a good producer and I think "How It Was Supposed To Be" and its vid aren't bad and I'm wondering if, like The-Dream and Ne-Yo, he'll be a grower. Funny thing, this trend in r&b singers with little projection or immediate charisma who are making interesting music (Ne-Yo, The-Dream, Ryan Leslie, Keri Hilson). (With the exception of Ne-Yo I'd probably say "sporadically interesting," though the new The-Dream album has a lot going on, even if you have to wait six songs for it to start happening.)
SPOILERS: I remember quite liking Every Which Way But Loose, the movie, the Eastwood character taking forever for it to get through his noggin that the Sandra Locke character wanted sex with him but not a relationship, but I didn't even know there was a soundtrack album. (And then I wouldn't even see the sequel to Evey Which Way But Loose, since it completely abandoned the premise of the first movie in order to create a sequel with Eastwood and Locke. Wouldn't see any of the Rocky sequels for the same reason. I admit that the reason's dumb, that I should take the later movies on their own terms, and Rocky 2 has a good reputation, but I hate the fact that the series abandoned ideas that were integral to their conception. The thing is, Rocky Balboa was never going to be a great fighter, his achievement was to get himself in shape and persevere so that he could survive in the ring against Apollo Creed and not be the patsy he'd been set up to be.
― Frank Kogan, Thursday, 2 April 2009 17:26 (seventeen years ago)
"How It Was Supposed To Be" and its vid aren't bad
Fwiw, that song and "Valentine" were my favorite songs on Leslie's album. Favorite by far on Mavado's album was the extremely bats-in-belfry Gothic-doom sounding "Welcome To The Armageddon," followed maybe by "Money Changer," though I should probably relisten to the single Frank likes so much.
Have never actual seen Clint's monkey movie myself; maybe I'll add it to my Netflix queue.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 2 April 2009 17:51 (seventeen years ago)
Orangutan
― Frank Kogan, Thursday, 2 April 2009 18:37 (seventeen years ago)
Boxmasters -- Modbilly (Vanguard)
What, already? That makes three, including the Xmas special?!
― Gorge, Thursday, 2 April 2009 19:50 (seventeen years ago)
Yep, and it's a double (with the second disc all covers) again. Which sort of makes FIVE, if you want to count them that way. Pretty sure I like the covers disc better than the one last year (only "As Tears Go By" seems completely wtf pointless); originals disc seems on par so far. (Best song title, and one of the best songs: "That's Why Tammy Has My Car." Also great: "Heartbreakin' Wreck.") May or may not go into more detail about it here or elsehwere sometime. (Though I will say I really like Modbilly as an album title, too.) (Didn't like the Xmas album at all, for what that's worth.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 2 April 2009 19:58 (seventeen years ago)
But izzit exactly the same style and tone?
― Gorge, Thursday, 2 April 2009 21:11 (seventeen years ago)
Yep. I dunno, possibly less off-hand "incidental music" between songs, but same voice, same sound, same middle-aged fuckup who drinks too much persona. I'm realizing now that, while Billy Bob is just adequate as a singer (which I'm fine with), he is probably one of my favorite country songwriters (in terms of lyrics and melodies) at the moment. And one of the funniest songwriters working now, period. (Should've voted for him in the songwriter category in last year's Nashville Scene poll.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 2 April 2009 21:20 (seventeen years ago)
CMT has a video up for "Shuttin' Detroit Down"-- with Kris Kristofferson as a laid off auto worker and Mickey Rourke as his buddy.
http://www.cmt.com/videos/john-rich-country/367274/shuttin-detroit-down.jhtml?
― President Keyes, Friday, 3 April 2009 23:01 (seventeen years ago)
Wow -- Right wing populist rage; sabotage on the deadend streets, police cars overturned. Can't think of another country video that's ever bleeped out the word "fuck," either. It occurs to me that the "they" shutting Detroit down in Rich's song is as undefined as the "they" in any old hardcore song. (Guess it's "Congress," or "rich assholes who own banks" or just "people who live in New York City and Washington D.C. and aren't like us here in the real world"; how long til the New Depression gets its own Father Coughlin? Not that I'm, uh, implying anything.) So who's the congressman who makes the split-second cameo appearance on the TV news in that video, anyway? On first viewing I was thinking Kucinich -- can't get more lefty than him, right? But I'm probably wrong. Anyway. Great song, great vid. But that doesn't mean it doesn't make me uneasy.
By the way, if anybody missed it, Jon Caramanica ran an interview of John Rich in the Socialist NY Times a couple days ago, and called "Shuttin' Detroit Down" "the first great song of the bailout era." Judging from the sparse quotes, it didn't look like Rich gave Caramanica a whole lot of his time, though he did mention that Merle Haggard had compared the song to "Okee From Muskogee" (which it isn't nearly as good as, but still.) And when Caramanica asked him about another song on his new album where he says "we'd all be speaking German, living under the flag of Japan" if it wasn't for our WWII vets, John told Jon "I mean it completely literally." (Which leads me to wonder whether the Japs would be speaking German too, but never mind.)Anyway, here it is. (I haven't heard the whole album myself; got sent a download link, but I'm lazy when it comes to the evils of modern technology. And I still wonder where Big Kenny stands on all this):
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/31/arts/music/31rich.html
― xhuxk, Friday, 3 April 2009 23:33 (seventeen years ago)
(By the way, my use of "right wing" is pretty amorphous, too. Obama and Democratic Congresspeople supporting a bailout of course make for easy right wing targets, but the video and song are explicitly critical of big business and at least implicitly pro-union. So Rich is obviously walking a fine line. And if the song had come from somebody who wasn't so vocal in his support of McCain last year, I'm not sure I'd be saying which wing he was flying with.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 3 April 2009 23:58 (seventeen years ago)
Also wonder whether the ultimatums Obama gave auto companies this week makes the song more or less relevant; not bailing them out could shut Detroit down, too, right? If me and you run to the rescue, isn't there a chance that might save Kristofferson's job? So the message is confused, too. (Rich only explicitly mentions bailing out bankers, but he also talks about bossmen jetting out of town, which clearly refers to the auto execs -- who most Michiganders I know seem apologetic for.)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 4 April 2009 00:17 (seventeen years ago)
You're correct--that was Kucinich. A big WTF moment for me. But Kristofferson is such a well-known lefty I guess the video was meant to be bi-partisan.
― President Keyes, Saturday, 4 April 2009 00:42 (seventeen years ago)
So what do people here know/think about O.B. McClinton? Unsuccesssful soul singer/semi-successful soul songwriter from Mississippi, crossed over to country (sometime calling himself "The Chocolate Cowboy") in the early '70s and had a passel of not-very-high-charting hits between 1972 and 1987 (most promising title: "Honky Tonk Tan," 1984), the not-so-big biggest of them coming at the very beginning -- "Don't the Green Grass Fool You" (#37) and "My Whole World Is Falling Down" (#36) in '72. Apparently recorded three country albums for Stax subsidiary Enterprise, and a few later ones for a few other labels. Died of cancer at age 47 in 1987.
Got his 1974 If You Loved Her That Way for my usual going price of $1 at a flea market last month, and it's good. Two songs about good wanton women, though in one of them ("Clean Your Own Tables") she's just called a barmaid instead, but that's okay because (I'm paraphasing from memory) "She' not what you'd call an All-American girl" and "I'm not what you call an All-American Boy, I've done time in San Francisco and L.A."; in the one where the woman is actually called wanton, her name is Dixie, and she was like a Mama to O.B., so he's not going to stand for anybody running down Dixie -- a pretty twisted metaphor, somehow, coming from a black country singer, not unlike the minstrely blackface phrasing ("when my self is feelin' low") in "Little Green Apples" by O.C. Smith, another early '70s black country singer I often confuse O.B. with (and you can throw Southern soul guy O.V. Wright in there too.) There's also "If You Loved Her That Way" (where O.B. blames the infidelity of a friend's wife on the friend's inattention to her), a decent cover of "Lean On Me" that reminds me that Bill Withers had country leanings as well, and a great cut called "Hallelujah" that seems like an example of its own unnamed genre -- spoken more like a sermon than a gospel song; a few verses detailing bad stuff going on in the congregation (a marriage splitting up, a man looking down on the neighbors in his new neighborhood), separated by a recurring chorus about "hallelujah -- save us again" (the chorus of which reminds me of "Hallelujah I'm a Bum," but I have a feeling it might be related to some other template I've just never noticed before). And O.B. has more soul music in his singing, overall, than Darius Rucker or Cleve Francis (maybe even Charlie Pride) if not Lionel Richie or Ray Charles or Dobie Gray or Big Al Downing when they made country moves.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 4 April 2009 14:32 (seventeen years ago)
Also been listening to the car radio a lot in the past few days. Love Kenny Chesney's "Out Last Night" -- seems like the most fun thing he's done in years, after he starting getting a little depressing and rolling up in an acoustic ball in his blue chair and I stopped paying attention so much (which means I may have missed something, but this is still good.)
Have come to truly hate the ubiquitous George Strait hit about "rolling down the river of love," but I've come to like Montgomery Gentry's unusually laid-back, somehow almost early '70s Grateful Dead-feeling (though melodically partly Counting Crows reminscent) "Roll With Me" a lot, which proves I have nothing against rolling per se'. And I also have nothing against George Strait per se' -- I've come to like his hit "Troubador," too (even though K'Naaan has a way better Troubador album.)
Then there are songs they probably only play on the radio here and not anywhere else. Jason Boland and the Stragglers' '08 album track "Comal County Blues" is on the air enough to count as a legit hit in my mind (seems to be about an Austinite who moves south to the Texas country but comes back into town at night to drive the streets and relive old good times when he feels depressed), and I like it, though I've never heard Boland otherwise. Heard a song on the Triple A station the other day that sounded kind of like James McMurtry and had the guy talking in a gruff voice over a killer "Symphathy For The Devil" groove (with rock guitars building like a coastal storm) about how much he liked the bayou, but they didn't back-announce it, and I'm not even sure what title to google to find out. Also don't think I ever heard this great old honky-tonk song "Bloody Mary Morning" before -- Google says Willie Nelson has the most famous version, but I'm fairly positive the rendition I heard on the air last week wasn't him.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 4 April 2009 14:53 (seventeen years ago)
Also heard an awesome, apparently '80s local late-new-wave bar-band dance-craze hit "Earthquake Shake" last night by a band I never heard of before called the Skunks (link below.) Shades of, I dunno, "The Meltdown" by Root Boy Slim and His Sex Change Band" or something dumb like that. Plus they apparently cover "Sister Ray" on the MySpace, it looks like:
http://www.myspace.com/theskunkstx
― xhuxk, Saturday, 4 April 2009 14:58 (seventeen years ago)
Not to mention the fact that the public station at 88.7 that sometimes plays Southern Soul also has other shows where they play '80s old-school r&b (yesterday: Cameo's "Single Life," Maze featuring Frankie Beverly's "Happy Feelin's," Slave's "Slide," One Way's immortal "Cutie Pie"), and still other shows where they play presumably current gospel songs that try to sound like old-school rap and funk music, and sometimes do it pretty well (one I heard yesterday had Taana Gardner's "Heartbeat" bassline.)
Also my excellent mailman Daniel Patrick O'Flannagan McGee (not his real name, but it's not far off) is a huge Hal Ketchum fan who back in college was a huge It's A Beautiful Day fan -- two artists I know almost nothing about, though maybe I should find out. (Apparently Hal put a new album out lately.)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 4 April 2009 15:45 (seventeen years ago)
Most of the time, John Rich is as politically nuts as Ted Nugent, only he's not 60 yet. Being on Beck and Hannity makes one officially part of the tribe of Turner heevahavas -- people who don't realize they appear like peripheral characters from "The Turner Diaries" but who have never seen the book or know what it is. T-shirts that say "America -- love or leave it." Eesh, yeah, so many of us anarchists and haters want it burned down.
Making "Shuttin' Down Detroit" would seem to be more proof of a busted watch being right twice a day. I haven't been watching CMT lately but I'll definitely be tuning in this week to see the video in top rotation.
― Gorge, Saturday, 4 April 2009 20:17 (seventeen years ago)
I heard the John Rich album today-- needs fewer ballads and more batshit. The standout songs (besides "Detroit") are the one mentioned earlier about how if not for the Greatest Generation we'd be living in The Man in the High Castle--speaking German under the flag of Japan. John is mad at unspecified people on his TV "taking shots at Uncle Sam" who presumably think that fighting the Nazis was a bad idea. In the title track "Son of a Preacher Man" he figures he can still get into heaven because "Jesus ran with a party crowd." In another song he becomes Eminem and complains that everyone wants to be him--that is to have his money and fame, but they don't want to pay the dues he paid, nor do they want to put up with having cameras in their faces everyday or having their "country boy views" blown up into "big city news."
― President Keyes, Saturday, 4 April 2009 20:29 (seventeen years ago)
as politically nuts as Ted Nugent
Speaking of which (and the shuttering of Detroit):
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090404/ap_en_mo/final_four_detroit_spotlight
"Left to their own accord and entrepreneurial enterprise, I am confident the U.S. auto industry would have outperformed all others. ... Now that Fedzilla has had the audacity to turn up the havoc-wreaking, criminally violating the U.S. Constitution and all parameters of logic and decency, it appears the death knell has sounded. It breaks my Motor City heart," he said.
So government intervention in the auto industry caused Detroit to fail? And it was fine before?
And speaking of Michigan and country, this is from a pretty good (if seemingly over-edited at points) piece by my old Farmington, Michican middle-school pal R.J. Smith on Ron Asheton's final days, in what turned out to be Blender's final issue:
"Ann Arbor in the mid-1960s was shaped by freak culture. This wasn't the peace-and-love scene of San Francisco. It was scrappy, built on hustles. Michigan hippies had hillbilly ancestry: Their parents had come from the Deep South in World War II to work in defense plants. They brought a don't tread on me rebel vibe."
They may or may not be some leaps of analysis in that passage (and the first couple sentences say nothing that hasn't been said thousands of times before), but I'm interested in the demographic geographic shift R.J.'s talking about -- obviously lots of Detroit's black population came from the South to work in factories, but it never really occurred to me that a good portion of Detroit's white population did as well. I'd like to read more on it. Either way, it kind of explains Kid Rock.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 4 April 2009 20:44 (seventeen years ago)
I had a discussion about this general topic with friends in Kalamazoo last year. They were wondering why so many poor whites in Michigan talk like they're from the South. I said this probably has to do with the fact that a huge influx of Appalachian folk moved north to work in factories (in southwest Michigan they came for the paper mills). When my wife and lived in Cleveland for a year she worked with poor people and nearly all the whites had roots in Appalachia. This is partly why places like Detroit and Chicago had fairly thriving bluegrass and country scenes. The Osbornes and Mac Wiseman -- as well as Jimmy Martin, I believe -- all had radio spots in Detroit in the 1950s and early '60s.
Neil V. Rosenberg does a great job charting this migration in his book Bluegrass.
― QuantumNoise, Saturday, 4 April 2009 21:28 (seventeen years ago)
Almost forgot: The Monroe Brothers were formed while Bill and his brother Charlie were working in an oil refinery in northern Indiana, near Gary. They frequently appeared on WLS in Chicago, which, if I'm remembering correctly, had America's no. 1 barn dance/variety show before the rise of WMS. But I'm not toally sure about that.
― QuantumNoise, Saturday, 4 April 2009 21:46 (seventeen years ago)
Left to their own accord and entrepreneurial enterprise, I am confident the U.S. auto industry would have outperformed all others
Four months ago the Nuge was blaming it all on the UAW and insisting the government had to force contractual "restructuring" on the blue collar workers. No one can accuse him of logic. Most of Ted's stuff reads like he's dictating it in a stream of rant to a stenographer, which is proably exactly how it's made.
on his TV "taking shots at Uncle Sam" who presumably think that fighting the Nazis was a bad idea
Re Rich, this is so fucked-up, it's difficult to know where to start. I'd think that the those who thought fighting the Nazis was a poor idea prior to the declaration of war are 99.8 percent dead for a good many years now.
As for Detroit, I bet it was a complete polyglot, as many Euro-immigrants as southerners moved northern and urban.
― Gorge, Sunday, 5 April 2009 02:07 (seventeen years ago)
I'd think that the those who thought fighting the Nazis was a poor idea prior to the declaration of war are 99.8 percent dead for a good many years now.
And plenty of them were right-wing populists at the time too, as I understand. Speaking of which, and as George suggests, it's hard for me to believe that the strong German/Polish Catholic bent of much of the Detroit area's working class white population originated in the South. So I suspect there's some major hyperbole in R.J.'s claim, but I'd still like to see any population figures that might support it. (And I may well check out that Bluegrass book, if it details the migration pattern clearly.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 5 April 2009 02:14 (seventeen years ago)
John Rich should have taken the opportunity to write an anti-union tune, which would have been more in line with his previous politcal stance. 30 years at a union plant and there's no way that guy would be losing his home, unless he had another one in Traverse City and a boat in the driveway. As it is, I realize John Rich is just blowing with the wind and wholly full of shit.
― john. a resident of chicago., Sunday, 5 April 2009 02:24 (seventeen years ago)
On a side note, one feels sorry for Cowboy Troy, missing out on this momentary glory. Last night he made an acting debut in Furnace, a Sci-Fi Channel Saturday night 'special'. It was a movie for various jobbers including Michael Pare, JA Rule, the ugly Mexican guy from central casting who has tattoos all over his chest and was 'Machete' in one of the Grindhouse trailers, and Tom Sizemore, who has been ruined by drugs, prison and Heidi Fleiss. Furnace was, naturally, about a prison called Blackgate, one in which a dead warden molested his own child, who he put in the furnace. And then he was killed near the furnace. So the ghosts come out of the furnace to start killing prison guards and the condemned for no obvious reason. Troy plays a janitor and is killed early, perhaps a blessing because it's a two-hour movie that seemed like four and it must have been nasty having to stand around on the set for days.
Sci-Fi channel advertises its Saturday night specials as 'the most dangerous night on television.' It is truth in advertising, very dangerous to your ability to stay awake.
― Gorge, Sunday, 5 April 2009 15:48 (seventeen years ago)
Anthony E., who I told should resume posting here, asked this on my lj:
John Rich's song about Detroit, Runaway, Johnson's High Cost of Living, three make a trend, but other country rock recession documents? (this is good, sort of like shelton, a lot like urban, but i love the steel guitar)
Btw, I don't think "Runaway" and "High Cost Of Living" are recession documents (and I also don't know what the parenthesis refers to; Anthony doesn't like Jamey and is pissed off at Rich, and I don't hear any pedal steel in "Runaway," though I think there's a little bit of slide).
― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 5 April 2009 19:15 (seventeen years ago)
Juvenile piece of hagiography on Bruce Springsteen in today's LA Times. Paper actually went ot the the trouble of sending their reporter, who usually does the comic book beat, to Asbury Parkto take dictation from the ummah.
Springsteen, it is said, is "a troubadour for troubled times." That made me laugh. I dunno how anyone can write, let alone read, that kind of line with a straight face. I'd think any normal person would flinch if they saw that said of them, no matter how bloated on themselves they've become. And by the look of it, Bruce's has been drinking in his own p.r. for some time, actually thinking that the lyrics on his latest album are deep.
Of course, the album's not sold as well as expected and there are empty seats at some of the shows and, let's face it, did you really think him singing the chorus of "Glory Days" at the Superbowl gig was great? We went out for a quick burger stop. Seemed like he was still singin' it when we got back.
"(Bruce) paused and pondered his illustrious songbook." Man.
"The live show is a current event at all times." I should hope so.
"The forever-young Springsteen seemed to be pulsing with new reasons to believe after watching the election of Barack Obama."
"Springsteen is driven, competitive, and whether it's on stage or in the gym, obsessed with a muscular expression of himself as some sort of populist-poet-as-athlete ..."
Effin' Ay!
"For the singer, it's not enough to be an essential artist, he also wants to be urgent."
So apparently Clarence Clemons walks with a cane now because he's had hip replacement, and Nils Lofgren, like Eddy van Halen, has had both replaced.
― Gorge, Sunday, 5 April 2009 21:55 (seventeen years ago)
Speaking of which, and as George suggests, it's hard for me to believe that the strong German/Polish Catholic bent of much of the Detroit area's working class white population originated in the South.
I hope I didn't imply that. I was just saying the migration was very real, and the big cities of the Midwest had significant numbers of Appalachian people.
A friend of mine, who is something of a Appalachian expert, recommended to me this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Appalachian-Odyssey-Historical-Perspectives-Migration/dp/0275968510/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1238969365&sr=8-1
Unfortunately, it's too expensive for me. Here's the blurb for it:
One of the greatest internal migrations in American history has been the movement of the people of Appalachia to a variety of rural and urban destinations all over the country --- wherever economic opportunity beckoned, from the industrial Midwest to the timber empires of the Pacific Northwest. This movement (about five million in the 1950s alone) has taken place in several waves throughout the twentieth century, and continues to this day. Appalachian Odyssey provides an interdisciplinary exploration of the impact of this phenomenon on both the Appalachian region and the country as a whole. Scholars from a variety of social science disciplines bring their perspectives to this volume in an examination of the historical, political, social, economic, and cultural impact of a talented group often derided as "hillbillies". Appalachian Odyssey provides a much-needed corrective to this bias, and a deeper understanding of a people who have significantly influenced the American story.
― QuantumNoise, Sunday, 5 April 2009 22:13 (seventeen years ago)
Frank Rich on this morning's NY Times Op-Ed page, on Detroit, Wall Street, and John Rich:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/05/opinion/05rich.html
In the unsatisfying aftermath of Rick Wagoner’s demise, we must rid ourselves of the illusion that there’s a rigid separation between Wall Street and what John Rich calls “the real world.”
― xhuxk, Monday, 6 April 2009 01:38 (seventeen years ago)
Mike Hudson of the Pagans once said that Ohio city dwellers were scared that the hillbilles were gonna come swarming in and steal the jobs. This had something to do with fear of Elvis, Jerry Lee etc (not that a lotta sane Southerners would want to encounter Jerry Lee in the flesh). Southern blacks and whites both migrated to the Midwest, of course, and were more concentrated in some areas.(Didn't the longtime mayor of Dearborn ban African-Americans? Dunno what Henry Ford thought about them; maybe he was too busy stdying the Protocols of the Elders of Zion to bother). That novel The Dollmaker is a saga of such migration; think I'll read it when I get time (saw the movie long ago, with Levon Helm and Jane Fonda--seemed good at the time). Xxhuxx, Willie Nelson wrote "Bloody Mary Morning." It kicks off the ex-husband's side (Side B) of Phases And Stages, ca. 1973: excellent concept album/soap opera about two exes after the break-up(excellent opp for product placement if they'd drunk Dos Equis, but no labels are recited from).
― dow, Monday, 6 April 2009 02:32 (seventeen years ago)
Hudson didn't go on to write that fear of a hillbilly planet in Ohio had to do with fear of Elvis, etc. that's just my take.
― dow, Monday, 6 April 2009 02:33 (seventeen years ago)
And then of course there was A Face In The Crowd, with a musical hillbilly TV fascist messiah (inevitably portrayed by Andy Griffith), and Flem Snopes, ancestor of the method acting white trash-with-new-moneymutant Jett Rink, of Giant, and of Anton Chagur (spelling?) the principled psycho in No Country For Old Men (yeah the Gone To Texas thing, that was also big down here in the Southeast)
― dow, Monday, 6 April 2009 02:40 (seventeen years ago)
Todd Martens (who used to write for me at Billboard) live-blogs the ACMs on the LA Times website, giving each performance a letter grade (usually low ones):
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2009/04/acm-awards-the-performances-as-they-happen.html
― xhuxk, Monday, 6 April 2009 12:09 (seventeen years ago)
(Fwiw, Todd used to write the indie column in his trade-magazine days; not much of a country music fan, I don't think, which that snarky blog post pretty much confirms. I didn't see the ACMs myself.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 6 April 2009 12:17 (seventeen years ago)
(Actually, though, re-reading it, it's not entirely snarky, and not entirely un-country-fan like. And for all I know, I would've graded lots of those songs at least as harshly. So ignore my last post.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 6 April 2009 12:21 (seventeen years ago)
(okay.)
― dow, Monday, 6 April 2009 15:35 (seventeen years ago)
5. Jamey Johnson's "In Color." The first ballad of the night comes from newcomer-ish Johnson. The cut has already won song of the year, and it's not. Performing largely in black-and-white here, this one is aimed straight for your heart. Isn't it sweet how he inspires us to reminisce about our grandmother and high school teacher? No. Skip the song and look through your photo album: C-
Where I realized the writer had nothing to say to me.
― President Keyes, Monday, 6 April 2009 21:27 (seventeen years ago)
Re the LATimes Pop blog: The ACM's were covered in the real newspaper by Randy Lewis and that story ran today inside the Calendar section. Since I know how the Times handles its blogs -- it's practice is to encourage its reporters to continually update them with as much stuff as possible at the expense of the copy editors and regular staff who do the gut work, it's kind a sore point. The Times continually publishes its growing hit counts but does not release how much money it actually makes off all this 'action.' Secondarily, and this is a philosophical point, but a big one: If you don't do the copy-editing your blog, or pull the trigger on it, or even deal with it when the software application falls over on you (like most people who do regular blogs do), is it actually a blog, or just you doing the free-lance mill providing more content for the old media's new media site, desperate to get eyeballs? This has extra meaning for the Times since it just finished another purge of its editorial staff. In these purges, staffers get left go from their salaried positions and in frequent cases show up doing the same stuff they did the week before, except they're now on free-lance or whatever the free-lance blogger scale is at the joint. And while this is not rare in journalism, there is something very unseemly and sleazy about it, circumstances in which the executed get to participate in their own execution, after which they are exhumed to do work at zombie scale.
― Gorge, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 00:33 (seventeen years ago)
And that doesn't seem very 'country' or 'Merican does it? Vulpine, yes.
― Gorge, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 00:34 (seventeen years ago)
In the real world they're shutting copy editors down.
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 00:39 (seventeen years ago)
For what it's worth, back in the mid '90s even when we weren't falling ever deeper into a recession the environmental and engineering firms I worked at were doing the same thing with the support staff (technical editors and word processors), cutting the salaried employees and bringing in temps - though I think there's some potential problems you can get into with the NLRB if you fire someone and then bring that same person back as a temp (not that I know anything about labor law).
― Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 06:09 (seventeen years ago)
A couple of Jamaicans ride a Benny Hill riddim and try to put on southern accents.
Lady Saw "Jealous"
Leftside "Cowboy"
(Neither of which is nearly as good as Timberlee f. Tosh "Heels" (where she not only attempts but masters a Southern California accent) or Elephant Man "No Tikkle.")
― Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 06:20 (seventeen years ago)
Questions or comments on the recent posts on this thread.
xhuxk have you moved to Texas? (don't answer if it is personal, I'm trying to figure out where you are hearing this music on the radio)
Hank Thompson is better than Mel Tillis, but I'm not an expert.
I saw either Rich or Big's house on CMT Cribs last weekend, and it was a big tacky building that looked like a woodland lodge, but I fast forwarded through it because I just wanted to see Denny Hamlin and Mark Martin's houses (NASCAR)
The rural Midwest always seemed just as country as the south to me, even though my family migrated the other direction, and it really isn't that far if you are driving north from a "southern" or "Appalachian" area to the Midwest.
I've got Springsteen tickets for Wednesday, and today on the radio they announced "front section tickets for 20 dollars if you show up at the box office at noon on Tuesday with a food donation" way to screw loyal fans who paid full price, pretend you are doing something good with your can of beans, get press, and fill the house.
― james k polk, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 06:35 (seventeen years ago)
Hey James -- Yep, moved to Austin in early March. Where are you??
And I don't disagree about the "rural" Midwest (the cornfields of Southern Indiana say), but it's probably worth mentioning that Detroit and Ann Arbor aren't exactly rural. (Also, for what it's worth, I barely heard any country music at all growing up in Suburban Detroit -- not sure whether anybody in my high school listened to it, though maybe the Keego Harbor kickers taking all industrial arts classes did, who knows -- but when I went to college in Missouri I met plenty of Willie and David Allan Coe fans my age.) (Charlie Daniels too, though come to think of it he definitely got airplay on Detroit's AOR stations in the late '70s. But he was considered more "Southern rock" than "country" then obviously.)
I need to check out the hicky dancehall tracks Frank linked to; "Heels" is in the running for my single of the year so far. Which reminds me I emailed a long incoherent multi-part rant to Frank last night on what I'm convinced is the horrible state of '00s (and for the most part '90s) r&b. May expand on it to some extent sometime here, seeing how it mirrors some folks' feelings about '00s and '90s commercial country who I disagree with. I do touch on it a bit in these skeptical Southern Soul posts though:
And speaking of (a lot more) skeptical, here's my Rolling Stone review of the new Bonnie Prince Billy album:
http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/26987513/review/27078310/beware
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:55 (seventeen years ago)
I tracked down the Detroit radio station the Osbornes, as well as many other country musicians, appeared on.
WJR
They had a show called the "Lazy Ranch Barn Dance" in the 1950s. It took place every Saturday night at 12101 Mack (St? Ave?). The also had a show called the "Big Barn Frolic"!
― QuantumNoise, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 18:26 (seventeen years ago)
Jake Owens "Don't Think I Can't Love You," in the country top ten; in which it is asserted that even poor people can have the s3Xor. Song is kind of boring, unfortunately. (So, perhaps, is the sex.)
Taylor much more in tune this year than last year at the ACMs, and did "You're Not Sorry," the best song on Fearless. Wrote about it on my my lj:
Somewhat strange "You're Not Sorry" from Taylor Swift at the ACMs: she clips off each word, making the song sound really angry - which it is, of course, but on the studio version she kept the voice sad and let the words carry the anger, which is more effective. But this is effective in its own right, or tense, anyway, almost hard to watch.
She seemed totally immersed in the sadness and upset, as if the audience weren't there (though of course that might have been exactly how she intended to come across). Speculation in the YouTube comments that she was ill while performing. Also, this, which made me go "Huh?":
ricefarmer (10 hours ago)fuck ugly muslims
NECOLE21 (9 hours ago)ricefarmer...fuck u'r mama!by the way taylor is not muslim!usucked ur bitch even im not muslim u should not do that to them...coz they are not bad as u know
― Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 18:31 (seventeen years ago)
Here's more info. However, this says it was WXYZ, not WJR:
This is from: http://www.hillbilly-music.com/programs/story/index.php?prog=400
On Saturday nights in the mid-1950s, folks turned to radio station WXYZ in Detroit, Michigan for the "The Lazy Ranch Boys Barn Dance" show at 9:00pm every Saturday night. The show had a cast of 14 regulars and special guests as they appeared. They had such infamous guest stars as Moon Mullican, Lulu Belle and Scotty, Jimmy Dean, Ken Marvin, Tommy Sosebee, Ernie Lee, Neal Burris, Jonnie and Jack, Kitty Wells, Hawkshaw Hawkins, Smiling Max Henderson, The York Brothers and more! So this show looks like a stop on the touring of some of the more famous hillbilly acts back then.
The hosts or headliners of the show were the big little band called the Lazy Ranch Boys. They consisted of Casey Clark, fiddler who also doubled up as the shows emcee, Herb Williams, guitar and vocals, Barefoot Brownie Reynolds, for comedy relief.
Barefoot Brownie played the harmonica and bass and was said to be quite funny. He had worked with folks such as Red Foley on the Grand Ole Opry, at the Renfro Valley Barn Dance up in Rock Castle County Kentucky and other Saturday Night Jamborees. His career was said to have started on the Pa and Ma McCormick show that aired over WLW in Cincinnati, Ohio.
Herb Williams palyed the rhythm guitar and did most of the vocals for the Lazy Ranch Boys group. He did a lot of ballads or folk songs and they said his recitations and poems were always near the top of the request list. He wrote many of those compositions. He was a rather down to earth fellow and that earned him the nickname of "The Country Gentleman". He was the smallest of the group, but ate the most and said he stayed thin because he "carried it around".
One of the popular acts on the show was the duo of the West Virginia Sweethearts, Charlie and Honey. Honey was quite the yodeler then. They got their start in radio on WCHS in Charleston, SC on the "Old Farm Hour" show. Then they moved on to WSM in Nashville and also the Renfro Valley Barn Dance.
Another attraction was a 12-year old singer by the name of Little Evelyn who also appeared with the Lazy Ranch Boys at personal appearances. Then there was Mary Ann Johnson, a songwriter of some fame, who had her tunes of "Honey Baby Blues" and "You're Stepping Out" recorded by Neal Burris on Columbia Records. Mary Lynn, was the show stopping fiddle players on the show. The Kentucky Boys were noted for their "hillbilly comedy".
Some of the regulars on the show at that time were:
* The Lazy Ranch Boys, Casey Clark, Herb Williams and "Barefoot" Brownie Reynolds * Chuck Carroll * Herb Williams * Little Evelyn, 12-year old singer * Mary Ann Johnson * Mary Lynn * West Virginia Sweethearts (Charlie and Honey) * "Barefoot" Brownie Reynolds * The Kentucky Boys, Nat and Bill
― QuantumNoise, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 18:32 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, without doing web research to confirm this, I'm pretty sure I thought of WXYZ and WJR (both on AM) as "parents' radio stations" or "grandparents' radio stations" when I was a kid -- get the idea that, by the late '60s, WJR and possibly both featured a lot of news-talk. Teens and pre-teens into cool Top 40 tunes gravitated toward Windsor's legendary CKLW -- before eventually switching to FM: Which meant WDRQ first (Top 40 unto disco), then WABX, WRIF, WWWW, and eventually WLLZ (All rock/AOR. But what comes around goes around: One of those AORs at least temporarily later switched to a country format, I believe, probably after I'd moved away.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 18:44 (seventeen years ago)
Richard Thompson's soon-to-hit-shelves four-volume Walking On A Wire: 1968-2009 deserves a mention on this thread because, obviously, British folk music is just country music by British people. Anyway, Discs 1 and 2 are definitive (at least to somebody like me who owns no previous Richard Thompson box sets), and Discs 3 and 4 are basically unlistenable (even though I kind of liked his Sweet Warrior album two years ago.) Fortunately, I was sent the box as two separate two-disc sets! Which means one stays on my shelf; the other doesn't.
And the Yeah Yeahs deserve a mention here too because the instrumental-seeming (though not technically instrumental) fourth track of their new album, "Skeletons," has some penny-whistly British folk music wafting through it. And the album has several better if less country tracks too, most notably the one that goes "off with their heads/dance til you're dead." And they seem to be incorpoprating dance-music-type space and beauty into their sound, which seems an improvement over the last time I paid much attention to them. (Which has been a while -- never got why folks liked "Maps" so much, and to be honest I kind of lost track not long after their debut EP all those years ago.) That said, though, a lot of the album still hits me as too vague and shapeless -- maybe partly because Karen O's voice (which I find kind of grating in the first place, though not nearly as grating as say Bjork's or whoever) seems to fade into the mix too much. And she doesn't exactly kill me even when she doesn't fade into the mix. But Frank says the album is likely to end up among his top five for the year. So perhaps further listens will change my mind.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 15:29 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah Yeah Yeahs, obv.
In far more relevant news, here is my long-awaited (by me anyway) "Battle Of The Country Hunks" roundup of new albums by Pat Green, Rodney Atkins, Eric Church, Keith Urban, Dierks Bentley, and Jason Aldean (which I like in more or less that order):
http://www.villagevoice.com/2009-04-08/music/battle-of-the-country-hunks/
And to be fair to Aldean, it should be noted that Sasha Frere-Jones is currently listing his "This I Gotta See" as his ninth-favorite song of the year on his website. (His #5 is "I Forget The Name" by Holly Williams. No idea if that's the song's actual title.)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 15:35 (seventeen years ago)
Jason Aldean in Manhattan, eh? I'll bet that'll be one of his least fun nights on record. Now there's a guy who could use a short form vinyl LP live album, one with everything non-electric guitar left off. Why he's playing NYC is the 50 buck question.
BB Kings seems like only a 25 buck answer.
I must admit that I find it personally hilarious the New Yorker would rate his music highly, let alone deploy the disciminatory power necessary to place it at #9, as opposed to #6 or perhaps #11.
― Gorge, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 20:14 (seventeen years ago)
Maybe it is time for Mama Tried to Walk the Line: The 500 Greatest Country Albums starring Richard Thompson, Kelly Clarkson, and Son House.
xp, to xhuxk I'm here in Houston, and our country music, like the rest of our radio is in sad shape, but what you were describing on the radio sounded like it could be Austin. I may search the AM dial and see if there are any classic country stations at the moment.
― james k polk, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 21:40 (seventeen years ago)
Billy Bob momentarily dissed by blogger at National Post
Billy Bob Thornton gets two to three grafs in the shorts from the National Post for being uncooperative on the CBC when the host wanted to talk about his acting rather than the Boxmasters. Pretty standard reaction, interviewer's not interested in the second career, which is why the interview was set up. Collision ensues.
Someone please send me the pr contact for Thornton's rekkid on Vanguard. I would very much like to request a copy, seeing as how I liked the first one muchly.
― Gorge, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 23:03 (seventeen years ago)
First impressions on Boxmasters' ModBilly:
http://dickdestiny.com/billybobgirl.jpgThey dint grow 'em like that in 1963
Much more chime and Merseybeat ("Turn It Over" and the Stones' "As Tears Go By," the latter which sounds more Beatles than Keef, Brian and Mick)in this than on the debut. Somewhat less lap and pedal steel, too, which makes it less cornpone-sounding by a few degrees.
"Heartbreakin' Wreck" and "That's Why Tammy Has My Car" remind me of Hee-haw and Roy Clark although TV would've never allowed the chorus "I'm a moron/He's a dumbass" and the lines about assholes going to far and throwing the finger.
Honestly, once past the nods to the British Invasion much of this sounds like The Outlaws' first record, less the two Les Pauls and one Strat going full throat which, tonally, changes things quite a bit, but not the tenor. Songs in question: "New Mexico," "You Crossed the Line," "Santa Rosa" -- which is to say some of it also sounds New Riders of the Purple Sage-ish. Makes some sense because Boxmasters and Outlaws both covered "Knoxville Girl."
And the vintage tones are all carved and in place, a good deal of the point. Came with drink coasters with Tiger Beat-like profiles on the backs. "Fav Chicks:" Ann Margaret, Suzanne Pleshette, etc. Must be single-handedly adding some asterisks and change to Mike Nesmith's royalty statements. If there is a thing like a Mike Nesmith tribute band, Boxmasters is it.
― Gorge, Friday, 10 April 2009 22:57 (seventeen years ago)
No doubt about it, more than half of the appeal on these records is Billy Bob's knack for wry avuncularity ("Tammy's Car," "Two Weeks Notice,", etc). He delivers the chorus, something characteristically droll and chuckling, followed by sly Tele and drum fills in the turnarounds.
― Gorge, Friday, 10 April 2009 23:12 (seventeen years ago)
I watched the clip of that CBC interview with Billy Bob-- the interviewer was not asking about his film career, just about music. Billy Bob was pissed that in the introduction the interviewer mentioned that Thornton was an Oscar winning blah blah blah. Seems like he has credibility issues.
He kept saying, "Would you ask Tom Petty a question like that?" If Tom Petty decided to start a second career as an indie film actor, I doubt he'd be a dick to an interviewer who merely brought up the fact that he was also a famous fucking rock star.
― President Keyes, Saturday, 11 April 2009 01:47 (seventeen years ago)
Probably not. But I still like the two Boxmasters (missed the Xmas one) packs. Billy Bob'sstuff cracks me up.
― Gorge, Saturday, 11 April 2009 04:28 (seventeen years ago)
Hurdy Gurdy Man" was, indeed, Page on guitar and probably the rest of Led Zep (sans Plant) backing
http://www.coda-uk.co.uk/clem_cattini.htm
― moe greene dolphin street (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 April 2009 04:42 (seventeen years ago)
If Tom Petty decided to start a second career as an indie film actor
http://img.actressarchives.com/features/E498_the-postman.jpg
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 11 April 2009 05:20 (seventeen years ago)
the only thing that impressed me about the billy bob interview was the interviewer. i don't listen to cbc so i don't know that guy, but he held his own.
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 11 April 2009 05:21 (seventeen years ago)
I overheard Mrs. Redd listening to some bizarre thing on youtube which was apparently that interview. Will have to investigate. Is that from The Postman, Jesse?
― moe greene dolphin street (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 April 2009 05:26 (seventeen years ago)
yes, tom petty being actorly.
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 11 April 2009 05:43 (seventeen years ago)
Listeners who've never heard of or don't care for the Boxmasters thought CBC host was a stalwart shockah.
― Gorge, Saturday, 11 April 2009 19:44 (seventeen years ago)
I don't think knowing or caring about the Boxmasters would change much. The other members of the Boxmasters came across as okay types, the CBC host committed zero sins. The only complete asshole in the situation was the guy who used to sleep with Angelina Jolie.
― President Keyes, Saturday, 11 April 2009 23:29 (seventeen years ago)
Black. No, white. Red. No, it's green.
― Gorge, Sunday, 12 April 2009 00:52 (seventeen years ago)
i can't identify with being one of the boxmasters,however awesome they may be, but i can totally identify with being dude whose job it is to interview problem celebrity. so, yeah. (the boxmasters may be awesome, i have no idea.)
― would you ask tom petty that? (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 12 April 2009 03:34 (seventeen years ago)
It's challenging to deal with someone being a douchebag for an entertainment industry interview? Actually, I can't much identify with Billy Bob Thornton or the guy he was being cranky with.
But I do like Modbilly and "Reasons for Livin'," a song where Billy Bob sings about a chancre on his lip and how it's contributed to said 'reasons' running out, apparently. The pictures are neat and the whole pretense of being a groovy Sixties mod band, half of the idea which seems to be stolen from "That Thing You Do."
― Gorge, Sunday, 12 April 2009 21:58 (seventeen years ago)
Speaking of Ann Arbor's country connection, there's good backstory about that in Geoffrey Stokes' Star-Making Machinery, which is mostly about Commander Cody and the Lost Planet Airmen trying to make a hit album for a perhaps unusually warped label, but iall also describes their first decade or so in Ann Arbor. Cody was this painter of giant superrealist canvasses mostly I think (murals would have been too easy), and lived in a treehouse in the backyard of the wildest frat house (that was as close as they'd let him get). He of course found kindred souls and started what soon became the wildest honk tonk fratbilly band, and they did that til 1969, with many members going in and out of undergrad and grad school, and in and out of Ann Arbor, 'til finally they all got all the degrees they could get grants for (I'm guessing, based on experience), and moved to Berkeley and plugged right into that scene without chhanging anythang and were soon opening for the Dead ( they *weren't* a jam band, that was prob what made a good funky appetizer/ cleanser of the palate) The country background also figures in the attempted hitmaking: for inst, vocalist Billy C. was from this Alabama bluecollar family, migrants to Michigan I think, and the producer John Boylin knew to talk to him not like he did to some of the others, like they were all hip faculty colleagues, but more of a straightforward authority figure (it worked) Anyway, great book about a lost world (penniless rock reviewers bribed with monster, endless press junkets!) Required reading in several departments of monster Comm School (second in size only to xhuxx's alma mater), when I was at the University of Alabama (though not the Comm School)in late 70s.
― dow, Monday, 13 April 2009 02:08 (seventeen years ago)
I interviewed Commander Cody many years ago and he made a point of starting in Ann Arbor with a big gang of characters, including women with names like Pat the Amazing Hippie Strippie. He said they would drive to gigs just about anywhere in the US, even if it took 24 hour around the clock all night bare-knucklers. He insisted they went coast to coast from Michigan, could be in California or New Jersey.
― Gorge, Monday, 13 April 2009 02:47 (seventeen years ago)
Oh yeah, he should def do his own book about those years. Surely it's been suggested. Him and Billy C. and several others are still on the road, prob crossing the same intersection rat now
― dow, Monday, 13 April 2009 02:54 (seventeen years ago)
My fix-up review of the Boxmasters <A HREF="http://www.dickdestiny.com/blog/2009/04/sunday-afternoon-jukebox-cue-list.html">here</A>. Aynsley Dunbar Retaliation reissues, too. Was going to include Chicken Shack's entire catalog but decided to save for a future date.
― Gorge, Monday, 13 April 2009 07:18 (seventeen years ago)
Ah, here.
― Gorge, Monday, 13 April 2009 07:20 (seventeen years ago)
in a bar yesterday i heard a country version of "i used to love her (but it's all over now" sung by a woman, with the pronouns flipped. it was great, any idea who it was?
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Monday, 13 April 2009 15:20 (seventeen years ago)
Well, Molly Hatchet does a pretty good version. But despite being named Molly, Molly is not a woman. Or one person, even. Or country, exactly. (John Anderson, who also does a good version, is country but also not female. Nor are Bobby Womack, who wrote it and first performed it with the Valentinos, or the Rolling Stones, whose version a month later in the summer of 1964 was a much bigger hit.)
So I'm stumped. Searched "All Over Now" with and without the "It's" on Rhapsody, and got way too many possibilities, none of the female in a promisingly country way (at least among names I recognized.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 00:02 (seventeen years ago)
But Frank says the album is likely to end up among his top five for the year
Er, I think I said it was likely to end up Pazz & Jop top five, and Xhuxk must have assumed that meant my Pazz & Jop, but actually I meant Pazz & Jop as will be voted by the collected critics who submit ballots.
As of right now I've heard no 2009 albums that'd I'd want on my ballot, but that's owing to my not having listened to a lot of albums, I hope. And if I had to vote now I probably would list the Yeah Yeah Yeahs (and The-Dream, the Federation/TNT mixtape, and maybe Lily Allen), but none of those would have made my ballot last year. My favorite songs from the YYY alb are "Heads Will Roll" (the "off with their heads/dance 'til you're dead" one), "Dull Life," and "Runaway," none of which are as good as Love And Theft's "Runaway" (or Del Shannon's "Runaway," but they're better than Nelly Furtado's "Runaway," which isn't bad).
Karen O. can sometimes sound like PJ Harvey having a cow, for better or worse. (And since PJ sounds like Chrissie Hynde having a cow, that's a whole lot of cow.)
― Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 14:55 (seventeen years ago)
(Also, cows = country, obviously, so it totally makes sense to discuss the album here.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 14:59 (seventeen years ago)
(I also like Bon Jovi's "Runaway," not to mention various versions by DJ Goldfinger.)
― Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 15:10 (seventeen years ago)
Jukebox pissed me off with these blurbs on the Brooks And Dunn Plus Reba "Cowgirls Don't Cry," and didn't piss me off (but didn't inspire me, either) with these on the Carrie/Randy "I Told You So" duet.
And I gave the Jason Aldean single this totally uninspired writeup on my lj.
― Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 15:20 (seventeen years ago)
(I actually do like M.H. Lo giving a rationale for how the lyrics to "I Told You So" could make sense as a duet.)
(And I was a bit jarred the first time I heard Reba come in with the father's words at the end of "Cowgirls Don't Cry" on that duet, but I could make sense of it as the cowgirl now passing along her father's wisdom - which wisdom the song is clearly ambivalent about, despite the insistence of the Jukebox writers that they know better than the song does, and know better than the father.)
― Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 15:31 (seventeen years ago)
damn, i knew i should have asked what was playing in the bar. maybe it's on the jukebox.
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 15:36 (seventeen years ago)
Xhuxk, is Eric Church really considered a hunk? Looks to me like the only current country star who wouldn't appear out of place in Slade.
― Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 15:46 (seventeen years ago)
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2870/ericchurch.jpg
― Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 15:55 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, I may have been stretching the definition in Eric's case. (Actually, though, when I ran photos by an expert I'm married to, she rated him higher than Keith Urban. Though then again, she also married me.)
Anyway, I realized that I have been calling Megan Munroe's One More Broken String my favorite country album of the year all year on this thread, but I haven't said hardly anything else about it. And though nobody I've pitched the album to has had any interest yet in me writing about it, now Megan's publicist (who apparently found Rolling Country via google) is asking me for a quote for her press kit. So maybe I should figure out why I like the record.
So, um. The single, and the spookiest and probably best song, is "Moonshine," seemingly about riding shotgun and getting high on moonshine in a pickup on a Friday night when not much else is going on while the moon shines down on Megan. She's with a guy, and other stuff is going down too. Possibly even the guy.
Like the other tracks I like the most (which are mostly front-loaded), "Moonshine" is basically a blues-rock stomp in pop-country form (not far from, say, Carter's Chord last year, or Leann Rimes. Though critics, if they heard Megan, might be likely to compare her to Gretchen or Miranda instead.)
Opener "Angel On My Shoulder (Devil On My Back)" is another hard blues stomp, turning gospel at the end. "Leavin' Memphis" is a slower crawl, with what sounds like more slide toughening it up -- a cad steals his wife's new Chevy before church, leaving her with "two kids, a mortgage, a busted fridge he'll never fix," so she hits the road to hunt him down. Drawl suggests Dolly; revenge motive reminds me of "Before He Cheats." And "Muddy Water" later in the album sounds basically how you'd expect a muddy-water song would sound -- slow baptismal-boggy flow.
"Pennies In The Ocean" has hints of modern adult contemporary r&b, maybe even a little light early-Mariah melisma, especially as it climbs toward its climax. "Good Fight" feels closer to '90s quasi-alt-rock Europop, like Roxette (or maybe Colorhaus or One 2 One, who nobody remembers but me), with rock guitars. "Shameless Fool" is another power ballad, as much pop as country. Other songs lean toward pop bluegrass ("Angel Of Fire") quiet storm pop with quasi-classical violin stabs at the start ("Perfect Storm") and "sexy librarian folk" for coffee houses, as Rob Harvilla calls such stuff, a la Colbie Caillat or Sara Bareilles ("Speechless.") So Megan covers plenty of ground, without making a big deal out of it. And has a voice voluptuous and melodies hooky enough that I play the whole album, a lot, and the sound carries the thing even when the writing gets less specific through most of the second half.
None of which probably explains sufficiently why I like the album so much, but for now it will have to do. (Either way, I'd be surprised if it doesn't make my country top 10 at the end of the year. Might have a shot at my Pazz & Jop list, but maybe a long shot.)
Here is Megan's myspace page:
http://www.myspace.com/meganmunroe
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:26 (seventeen years ago)
Otherwise, I made it through the new Dale Watson album The Truckin' Sessions Vol. 2 once, and it sounded pretty good, though the songs that jumped out at me ("Truckin' Queen," "No Help Wanted") were already on Whiskey Or God a couple years ago.
Made it through the new Black Angel album O'SanFrancisco once, which was an accomplishment since it has 17 songs, and it sounded consistently good and country-Stonesy but then again so did O'California and O'SantaBarbara a couple years ago and their covers all look the same and I'm not sure how many albums like that I actually need. Noticing a great new song or two would help, though.
Did not make it through Pete Berwick's new Just Another Day In Hell yet. Cut him slack a couple years ago despite his voice being even more deadwood than Steve Earle's; not sure I can do that anymore.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 18:25 (seventeen years ago)
Okay discussion of the relationship between '70s BT0/Seger blue-collar "butt rock" and '00s Nashville country-rock (and the sociological implications thereof) beginning here, if anybody's interested:
So what is this BUTT ROCK, anyway?
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 19:28 (seventeen years ago)
"Other stuff is going down too. Possibly even the guy."--Chuck Eddy, ILX
― Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 21:21 (seventeen years ago)
So how come nobody has ever told me about David Lee Murphy's "Dust On The Bottle," which apparently (according to AMG) topped the country chart in 1995? "Love Potion No. 9" plot (though actually the love potion is well-aged homemade wine, which is consumed by two frisky young lovers in a vehicle a la Megan Munroe's moonshine) set to a funky "Sweet Home Alabama" riff/groove, and with an opening line about what seems to be an old black man (one Creole Williams who lives down the back road) in the great tradition of Merle's Uncle Lem or Tom T.'s Clayton Delaney. Okay, not as great as those. But still good.
Not sure if I've ever heard any other songs by David Lee Murphy (who apparently hasn't had a hit for a few years.) Anybody know how good is oeuvre is/was?
Read Frank's review of the Aldean single, and while I basically agree there's nothing interesting about the singing and words, I do get the idea that riffs in a few of his hits seem to be reaching a density (or whatever) that even Big N Rich's and Montgomery Gentry's guitars haven't, quite. Which isn't to say his songs are anywhere near as good as their best (though John Rich helped write "Hicktown.") "She's Country" does sound great on a car radio, though.
Anybody who hasn't read the Boxmasters writeup on George's blog, should. It's inspired. Hope Billy Bob gets to read it and takes note of the Mott stuff.
Frank mentioned The-Dream's album above, which has nothing to do with country otherwise. But so what, I tracked through it on Rhapsody the other day anyway, to try to figure out what the big deal is. I didn't figure it out, though. It's nice The-Dream has a high voice, I suppose; it'd be better if he used it to make his music as pretty as, say, Ne-Yo's (much less Debarge's, or the Stylistics', or any number of more forgetten soul hacks.) There are "interesting production touches" here and there, maybe, but none that kept me all that interested. And Bobbie Gentry did a way better song called "Fancy" (Reba McEntire, too), and the Angry Samoans did a way better song called "Right Side Of My Brain." (They said "Mind" instead of "Brain," but why split hairs?) So: shrug.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 22:59 (seventeen years ago)
And the Police did a better song called "Walking On The Moon," duh. Pretty sure some soulish reggae woman did a good cover of that in the '80s, too -- Sheila Hynton, maybe? Was that her name? -- but Google is no help. Did learn that Janie Fricke, another '80s/'90s country singer I know nothing about, had a song with that title, though. Can't vouch for whether it was better than The-Dream's.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 23:08 (seventeen years ago)
Ah...found it. Right artist (Sheila Hynton), wrong Police cover ("Bed's Too Big Without You.") Still stand by the rest, though.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 23:12 (seventeen years ago)
For current momentary but timely musical entertainment, The Internal Revenue Boogie, done a couple years ago, but undated.
― Gorge, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 02:42 (seventeen years ago)
Thanks, think I'll pass on that one (just like a kidney stone) Megan sounds like my kinda gal (musically too). As uaual a lot of my list frontrunners so far are reissues, but not of anything that was really all that prev issued: Death's ..For The Whole World To See; The Tiffany Transcriptions (first time all ten volumes/150 songs have all been in one set, rat? May not have all been on CDs before-- great remastering, anyway); Chris Darrow's twofer, s/t with Under My Own Disguise. from the early 70s, post- or late-psychedelic folk/country rock I'd say: he reaps the whirlwind, under inpenterable cloud cover, but re-orientation is no prob: dense but clear, as xgau said of Meltzer's best writing, And no up-in-lights oh wow factor, cause no lights. Lots of stuff going on, but mainly what gets me is voice-keyboards-bass-drums in the pocket, like on Fotheringay 2, Jessi Colter's Out Of The Ashes, Tell Tale Signs (and some other Dylan tracks, much older than Tell Tale Signs' outtakes, like "Ballad of a Thin Man"/"Dear Landlord"/"Down Along The Cove"/"If Dogs Run Free"/"Dirge") Vocally, a bit like Michael Nesmith, but this guy can hold a note as long as he wants to, and flex it too (might be some of that Middle Eastern in his alma mater, Kaleidoscope, but he always sounds like a cowboy, incl in UK with maybe some of the same people on Fotheringay 2, come to think of it-- although some of the "UK" vibe turns out to be from the L.A. sessions,a nd vice versa)
― dow, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 04:49 (seventeen years ago)
So does Cal Smith (or Hank Thompson, or Bill Anderson, or all of the above since they all apparently sang it) have many other songs as great as "The Lord Knows I'm Drinkin'," which the Boxmasters cover on their new album? If so, I have clearly been neglectful in not teaching myself about said fellows, since it is my new favorite song that's been around forever without me hearing it:
Hello Mrs Johnson you self righteous womanSunday School teacher what brings you out slummin'Do you reckon the preacher would approve where you areStanding here visitin' with a back slidin' Christian in a neighborhood bar
Well yes that's my bottle and yes that's my glassAnd I see you're eye ballin' this pretty young lassIt ain't none of your business but yes she's with meAnd we don't need no sermon you self righteous woman just let us be
Goodbye Mrs. Johnson you self righteous biddyI don't need your preachin' and I don't need your pitySo go back to whatever you hypocrites do
Also curious whether it's Mel McDaniel's or Amazing Rhythm Aces' arrangement of "Big Ole Brew" that Billy Bob and his bros are interpreting. (Any recommendations on any of these artists are welcome.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 16 April 2009 03:54 (seventeen years ago)
Ah suspect Amazing Rhythm Ace's first LP was best (blanking on title); best I've heard, although all had some good stuff (worth digging through 99c crates) and I got a Russell Smith promo several years ago was pretty decent; he's still got that tight little--voice.
― dow, Thursday, 16 April 2009 20:18 (seventeen years ago)
One obvious thing that nobody mentioned in our discussion above about Southerners moving to Detroit is that there have actually been songs about it -- most obviously "Detroit City" by Bobby Bare (by day he makes the cars and by night he makes the bars then dreams of the cotton fields back home), and now I've got this Isaac Payton Sweat LP called Cotton Eyed Joe And Other Bandstand Favorites and it's got a song on it called "Goodbye Motor City" where the guy says he's been installing windshields on the assembly line for 18 years but, again, misses the cotton fields, and is about to quit his job and move to Mobile. (Not sure if Sweat did it originally, or it's a cover, like most of the other tracks on the Sweat LP. Google is no help.)
Google's not much help in finding out more about Isaac Payton Sweat, either. He doesn't even have a Wiki page, and he's not mentioned in the country album guides I've got. AMG lists a couple albums, but has no writeupd. Did just find a myspace page, though, that says he died in 1990; the album I bought for $1 last week is the second one down:
http://www.myspace.com/isaacpaytonsweat
The album looks really homemade, cut-rate. Back cover is basically an ad for Lone Star beer. At the Austin Record Convention one dealer had about 40 sealed copies, which makes me theorize maybe it was sold at dancehalls here but nobody bought it. Thing is, Sweat's version of "Cotton Eye Joe" was seemingly some kind of hit, since it's one of ten country line-dance songs this K-Tel compilation CD from 1995 I've got called Country Kickers, and most of the rest are actual familiar hits. I guess the idea is that in the middle of the song everybody yells "bullshit!," and in Sweat's version, the bullshits are actually audible. Lalena says, growing up in Houston, they'd teach the song to kids in gym class (!), and even the kids used to yell it.
Looks like there's a informative Wiki entry for "Cotton Eye Joe," by the way; haven't read the whole thing, but this stuff seems pretty interesting:
The precise origins of this song are unclear, although it predates the American Civil War...Cotton-eyed Joe, on occasion referred to as "the South Texas National Anthem", was played for minstrel-type jigs, and has long been popular as a square dance hoedown and a couple dance polka. During the first half of the twentieth century the song was a widely known folk song all over English-speaking North America. One Discography lists 134 recorded versions released since 1950...A list of the possible meanings of the term "cotton eyed" that have been proposed includes: to be drunk on moonshine, or to have been blinded by drinking wood alcohol, turning the eyes milky white; a black person with very light blue eyes; someone whose eyes were milky white from bacterial infections of Trachoma or syphilis, cataracts or glaucoma; and the contrast of dark skin tone around white eyeballs in black people...A 1967 instrumental version of the song by Al Dean, who recalled the song called "The Gingerbread Man" in South Texas, inspired a new round dance polka for couples.
I swear somebody told me once that the song was actually about an abortionist, but I don't know where that information came from. Wiki is silent on the issue:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton-Eyed_Joe
― xhuxk, Friday, 17 April 2009 16:35 (seventeen years ago)
Otherwise, pretty hilarious exchange about the band Alabama's classic fashion sense on another thread this morning:
sort of appreciate a band that dresses as if a VFW league softball game was going to break out at any minute
― 4,000 hoes in blackburn, lancashire (M@tt He1ges0n)
yeah i think a VFW softball game is OTM. or maybe a VFW pancake breakfast.
― tylerw, Friday, 17 April 2009
whenever I drive through Muscle Shoals I'm tempted to stop at the Alabama Music Hall of Fame because they claim to have an Alabama (the band) tour bus inside, which I bet has awesome koozies and some seriously comfortable furniture inside.
― Euler, Friday, 17 April 2009
Most Horribly Rong One Star Rating from the 1982 Rolling Stone Record Guide, Part 1
― xhuxk, Friday, 17 April 2009 16:40 (seventeen years ago)
From Isaac Payton Sweat's myspace:
Ikey played bass on the Johnny Winter's Columbia Record release "White, Hot & Blue", a very successful album. Then he went "psychedelic" in the days of blacklights, posters, and long hair. Those days found musicians jumping from band to band without much loyalty or fear of unemployment. When he switched to country music he considered himself the original country "outlaw" when he had the beard and Willie Nelson was still in Nashville with a military haircut. Sweat cut his hair and began playing conservative country. In 1981 he had his own band, but preferred to be a singer and not a leader.
MR "COTTON EYED JOE" Sweat cut a vocal version of the Al Dean instrumental standard "Cotton Eyed Joe" which became a big regional hit. In 1980 everyone was doing "The Cotton Eyed Joe". Isaac WAS "Mr. COTTON EYED JOE".
Ikey did not like, or understand the business side of the record industry and felt that he didn't get what he deserved from his best selling recording. However, it was said that he had recorded the song for a flat fee and no royalties were due. Without a valid contract he was free to re-record the song for PAID RECORDS in 1981. When he got his first royalty check from PAID RECORDS he said that out of all the recordings he had made, that was the first time he had ever received any royalties.
― xhuxk, Friday, 17 April 2009 16:44 (seventeen years ago)
"I find the most unusual thing is that the gun, sunglasses and keys all were near the left hand," Geick said. "If he were to commit suicide, he certainly wouldn't use his left hand, holding the sunglasses and keys, if he were right-handed.' Friends and relatives said recently that Sweat, despite some regional success, sometimes was despondent over his failure to make it big in country music. But they said the 25-year musician would not have committed suicide.
His widow was arrested, but murder charges were dropped two years later for lack of evidence.
― xhuxk, Friday, 17 April 2009 18:18 (seventeen years ago)
http://userpages.umbc.edu/~korenman/wmst/song.html
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:43:06 -0500 From: Amelia Carr Subject: Re: songs about abortion
Michelle Shocked's song Prodigal Daughter on the CD Arkansas Traveler is about a woman who had an abortion. The reference is a little bit obscure,and involves her reading of the old folksong "Cotton-Eyed Joe." When I heard her sing this in concert, Michelle went through a long and pretty convincing rap about the Cotton-Eyed Joe with its verses like:
I could have been married a long time agoIf it hadn't a-been for Cotton eyed joe
However, I've heard lots of versions of Cotton-Eyed Joe, and I think it's one of those songs that can absorb improvised verses that might take it far away from Shocked's interpretation. A number of current rock-a-billy versions turn the Cotton-Eyed Joe into an actual person, a temptation to women. Perhaps it boils down to the same thing?
― xhuxk, Friday, 17 April 2009 18:33 (seventeen years ago)
Holy shit, new album by country singer Colin Raye starts out like a cross between "American Band" and "Urgent" -- he lets the hard rock guitar and cowbell play for half a minute at the beginning before he even starts singing. Total butt-rock, and "Mid-Life Chrysler" (great title) later throws its butt around, too. Also covers Nilsson ("Without You") and Stealer's Wheel ("Stuck In The Middle With You"). And sings like Don Henley throughout. Who the hell is this guy? He had hits in the '90s, right?
New albums by Meat Puppets and Steve Forbert not so hot, though. Former has a couple perty guitar solos, I suppose, but just seems majorly lacking in energy otherwise. Latter may deserve another listen; "Beast Of Ballyhoo (Rock Show)" and "Labor Day '08" didn't sound that bad, plus he covers that old Anthology Of American Folk Music ditty "Coo Coo." And sounds more like Arlo Guthrie than I'd remembered.
― xhuxk, Friday, 17 April 2009 19:31 (seventeen years ago)
Hot Country Songs: "Shuttin Detroit Down" #14, Kenny "Out Last Night" #16, "High Cost Of Living" #40, "The Climb" #41, "Runaway" # 43, Jack Ingram "Barefoot and Crazy" (still need to check that out) #46, Trace "Til The Last Shot Fired" debut at #50 (with "Marry For Money" still at #17), Hank Jr. "Red White and Pink Slip Blues (haven't heard, assume it counts as recession country) #60.
Steve Forbert album sounds good somehow. It has a kind of groove, and seems to pull off its darker, more minor-key parts convincingly; haven't figured it out yet. And actually he sings more like a more relaxed (but somehow not lethargic) Tom Petty (sort of the way he always did) than like Arlo; it's just that "Stolen Identity" borrows its melody from "City Of New Orleans." If there are memorable songs here, it's entirely possible this could be a good album. No idea if Forbert's ever made one before; maybe he's one of those rare old pros like Rick Springfield who has actually improved with age. Or maybe he was just inspired by Keith Urban covering "Romeo's Tune" (and Taylor Swift rewriting it?) Or maybe the album stinks; still not sure yet.
Collin Raye album doesn't stink, and seems to have actual songs with interesting plots and stuff to go with the funky music. "Where It Leads" sounds great so far, too. Good chance this is the best album I've heard all year, at least based on three listens.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 18 April 2009 04:07 (seventeen years ago)
National Record Store Day has its own thread now, and good for it, but I'll mention a couple of country-oriented press releases: the first is really just an excuse to plug Dale Watkins' new The Truckin' Sessions: Volume Two, available tomorrow (ahead of street date) at Waterloo Records in Austin and Cactus Music in Houston. And Dale's two-hour "trucker appreciation" concert at Willie's Place in Carl's Corner, TX will be re-broadcast tomorrow (Sat) night 10 P.M. CST on Sirius XM Outlaw Country. I dunno, I couldn't get in to that album last year or was it 07, where he sang about "Yellow Mamma" (the 'electric chair at one of our fine Alabama institutions [Kilby, I think], although he didn't bother to explain the reference and the intended vibey enigma just seemed vague). Mainly, he wants to sing about some Very Bad Things but too obviously also just wants to be liked, to be a bro. But he might do okay with truckin' songs, and vice versa (at least as edutainment, since I don't have many truckin' songs, except "Truckin'" of course.)Big endorsement from Willie Nelson also included. Also a plug for Seth Walker, whose new album, Leap of Faith "packs in Sam Cooke soul, Kansas City jump blues, rustic country blues, Percy Mayfield and Bo Diddley rhythms." Any good at it though?
― dow, Saturday, 18 April 2009 04:43 (seventeen years ago)
The other press release, from Lost Highway Records, has more about National Record Store Day festivities and sez, "Find partipatiing stores here. For you Nashvillians out there, Black Joe Lewis & The Honeybears will be performing at Grimey's New & Pre-Loved Music this Saturday at 3:15! And stick around for other bands performing Yazoo Brew, No Name Barbeque (are these bands or brands? since we're gonna have a list of other bands in just a sec)and meet the fine people from United Record Pressing. Also performing: The Avett Brothers, Stardeath and White Dwarfs (led by nephew of Wayne Coyne, but debut full-length The Birth is a bit psych-proto-metal sometimes, or at least fearlessly logging bad with good trips, more than Uncle Wayne's Flaming Lips; pretty slick though), Michigan City Vandals, DeRobert & The Half-Truths, Charlie Louvin, Del McCoury, Royal Bangs, Mute Math, The Ettes (blue ribbon for best name!)
― dow, Saturday, 18 April 2009 04:58 (seventeen years ago)
re "Cotton Eye Joe"I guess the idea is that in the middle of the song everybody yells "bullshit!," and in Sweat's version, the bullshits are actually audible. Lalena says, growing up in Houston, they'd teach the song to kids in gym class (!), and even the kids used to yell it.
This is true, and I could have lived the rest of my life without the memory. What I really don't remember is what the hell was going on in gym that we needed music, and I'm starting to be afraid that the answer is "Square Dancing". maybe it was 'parachute dancing'.
― james k polk, Saturday, 18 April 2009 05:15 (seventeen years ago)
Parachute dancing? As in parachute pants? Can't touch this!
― dow, Saturday, 18 April 2009 05:20 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.pecentral.org/lessonideas/ViewLesson.asp?ID=8735
this is relevant to the thread because the link suggest Brad Paisley.
There is a great big Parachute. I don't know where they came from or why they are at schools. I really didn't want to remember.
everybody holds around the edges, and then it is raises and lowered? sometimes you stand outside and sometimes inside? right foot out? other foot in?
wtf, IDK.
― james k polk, Saturday, 18 April 2009 06:59 (seventeen years ago)
I'm starting to be afraid that the answer is "Square Dancing". maybe it was 'parachute dancing'
Lalena (who tried to explain parachute dancing to me as well -- maybe you went to the same school) says the song "Cotton Eyed Joe" was played to teach kids neither square nor parachute dancing, but rather -- not surprisingly -- the Cotton Eyed Joe (dance) itself.
Forbert album not gonna kick in after all; forget I mentioned it. (More interesting than the new Tanya Tucker, though.)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 18 April 2009 18:38 (seventeen years ago)
Okay, this is going to sound really dumb, but in "South's Gonna Do It Again" when Charlie says "Barefoot Jerry and CDB," I always just assumed Barefefoot Jerry was a nickname for Jerry Jeff Walker. But I was just paging through the All Music Guide To Country (print edition -- website always way too slow anyway) to read the entries on Collin Raye, David Lee Murphy, Hank Thompson (most popular Western Swing musician of the '50s and '60s, I had no idea!), and I accidentally stumble across the entry for Barefoot Jerry, and it turns out they were a '70s band in and of themselves, some kind of spinoff of Area Code 615 (who I've also still only heard one song by I think). So...has anybody ever heard them? Were they any good? And is there a more obscure band mentioned in a country song that famous?
― xhuxk, Monday, 20 April 2009 13:57 (seventeen years ago)
And incidentally, the new Collin Raye isn't all butt-rock, though I'll be surprised if the three most butt-rockin' tracks don't wind up being my favorite cuts, seeing as how they also seem to have the most interesting plotlines: one (I think) about a couple smuggling drugs across the border, one about a guy who works out his midlife crisis with his wife of 25 years while all his buddies his age are sowing wilder oats, one where a guy and gal hit the road west semi-successfully hunting for dancing jobs for her in Vegas and wind up on a riverboat outside Cincinnati instead. And in all three songs, details flesh out the plots and make them more interesting than I just have. Plus there's the two decently done covers (Nilsson classic** I always mistake for "All By Myself" by Eric Carmen, Stealer's Wheel classic I always mistake for "Mama Told Me Not To Come" by Randy Newman). Plus three slow and possibly sappy but halfway promising anyway songs involving Jesus which I so far have mixed feelings about, including one involving a convenience store holdup and one that I think might involve a handicapped child* but I'm not sure yet. Plus what I assume so far are love-type ballads (12 - 3 - 2 - 3 = 4 of those I guess), though they will inevitably take longer to sink in.
Lalena, who likes Raye's phrasing too, says it's probably only the grain of his voice that's reminding me of Henley, not so much how he sings. Though I swear there's something blatantly '80s- Henleyesque about the drug-smuggle song, i.e., lead cut that starts out cowbelling like "American Band." Something about the dancing-girl one. "Where It Leads," keeps bringing to mind mid-period (i.e., when they were good) Drive-By Truckers, but I'm not sure yet whether it's the melody, the pacing, or what. (Worth noting the album was recorded in Muscle Shoals, and Raye gets considerably more funk into this music than Jason Isbell got into his this year, Sings better, too.)
* -- Just checked press one-sheet; says "his severely neurologically ill granddaughter." It's the closing cut, sparest and most reserved music on the album. And so far, it hasn't made me gag.
** - "Duet with Grammy nominee Susan Ashton," whoever she is
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Also, surprised to find (especially after what I wrote here a few days ago), that I'm liking the new Pete Berwick album a lot more than the new Black Angel album, which feels too long and too redudant and too lackadaisical. Not sure whether it's that Berwick's voice isn't deadwood after all, or whether he just knows how to give his deadwood bite anyway -- at least enough bite to make the songwriting, which has a lot of hard-assed renegade fuckup humor that somebody like Eric Church could relate to, sink in. (His album cover, visible at the link below, should give you a pretty good idea where he's coming from):
http://www.myspace.com/peteberwick
― xhuxk, Monday, 20 April 2009 16:30 (seventeen years ago)
Actually, seven love and Jesus ballads (eight when you include the Nilsson "Without You" cover) out of 12 is not a promising percentage, obviously. So far they haven't gummed up the works, though, which isn't to say they won't down the line if they don't sink in. (Can always skip over them either of way, of course, which I've already done a couple times.)
And don't think Henley solo ever rocked as hard as Raye's "Never Going Back" -- well maybe that "I Will Not Go Quietly" song he did with Axl; I'm not sure.
― xhuxk, Monday, 20 April 2009 16:55 (seventeen years ago)
Collin Raye's Myspace (where you can hear most of the songs I've been talking about, though the album doesn't street until 4-28):
http://www.myspace.com/collinraye
His last top 10 country single, according to AMG, was "Couldn't Last A Moment" nine years ago. Had four #1's and a bunch of other top 10's in the '90s. Assume I must have heard some of those; just wasn't paying attention to who was singing, probably. AMG writeup refers to Extremes from 1994 as "harder rocking" than his other albums; so maybe beyond a best-of album, that's the one to look for.
― xhuxk, Monday, 20 April 2009 17:14 (seventeen years ago)
Another '90s-associated country guy I didn't pay much attention to at the time but feel I should go back sometime and investigate is Hal Ketchum, who my mailman here is a big fan of. In 1992 I wrote the following review of one of his singles in Radio On, which rereading it makes him sound possibly intriguing, but I've never checked him out further:
Hal Ketchum, "Past The Point Of Rescue": Hello darkness my old friend, I've come to talk to you again. (Hal feels even more depressive than John Anderson -- his guitar-drone is on par hauntingness-wise at least, and that title could almost be a Stacey Q line. But John beats Hal in the tunefulness department.) (7.5)
The depressive John Anderson song I was referring to is the first one below:
John Anderson, "When It Comes To You": Achieves the gloom Alan Jackson merely aims for, and does it with Dire Straits blues guitars (7.5); "Straight Tequila Night" (6.5).
I underrated "Straight Tequila Night," which I heard on the radio the other day. Great song; I'd probably give it an 8.0 now. And, uh, the gloomy Alan Jackson song I was referring to is the second one below:
Alan Jackson, "Don't Rock The Jukebox": George Jones suckup bullshit (1.5); "Midnight In Montgomery": Neotrad goth-rock (5.0).
― xhuxk, Monday, 20 April 2009 17:51 (seventeen years ago)
So far, Booker T's new Potato Hole, with backing by Neil Young and Truckers, is flipping my wig: crunch 'n' roll, with keyboard from sea to wine-dark sea. Ah say as a fan: I didn't know the Truckers had it in 'em, and "it" incl such heartflecks as Booker T selects from his cover of their "Space City," the Grand Finale, no less, though it doesn't lose any of the rocking chair reflections of those big lights far off. (That's way after "Hey Ya" takes the top of my head off, and "Native New Yorker" keeps it off) Guess the most of these spoils me enough to take or leave a few, but so what. So far, dayyyyum.
― dow, Monday, 20 April 2009 23:10 (seventeen years ago)
I listened again to some of their other stuff, and of course the Truckers had it in 'em, and sometimes they gave it up--I just forgot (sorry)
― dow, Tuesday, 21 April 2009 20:55 (seventeen years ago)
More questions about '80s/'90s country artists for everything to ignore! Anybody know these artists?
These are from a singles column ("45 Revelations") that Ken Barnes did in Creem when it was on its second-to-last legs in the late '80s. I have never heard of either singer, but he makes the songs sound really inticing:
Jay Booker "The Mule Won't Move": It isn't news anymore when country mines a rockabilly vein, but when it starts recalling the Rolling Stones covering Solomon Burke ("Everybody Needs Somebody To Love," to be precise), then you've got something extraordinary.
David Lynn Jones "Bonnie Jean": As rockin' a trucker song as you could want, with a nasty reverb guitar and hard-driving sax. Mick Ronson's entry into country production is a winner (and a hit).
(It went #10 country, according to AMG, and Jones's only three subsequent charting singles went #14 then #36 then #66. Booker's#61 hit was a different song, called "Red Hot Sweater." AMG doesn't even list an album for Booker, and there are none for sale on amazon. Jones's '87 Hard Times On Easy Street apparently went #28 country in 1987, not too shabby, but the copies on amazon cost a pretty penny.)
Barnes also says he's obssessed with Baillie & the Boys, who I have vague memories of hearing back then. He calls "He's Letting Go" "a slow-building, taut and tense tale of disillusion/disolution, very much like co-writers Pam Rose and Mary Ann Kennedy's magnificent 'Somebody Else's Fire' (a Janie Fricke hit a couple years back)."
I don't think hardly any other "rock" critics were even paying attention in 1988. I sure wasn't, and more and more I feel like I might have missed a lot.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 23 April 2009 02:39 (seventeen years ago)
Interesting stray Pazz & Jop column from the same year (1988) that I thought was completely ridiculous at the time. Maybe it was; maybe it wasn't:
I've been listening seriously to country because it seems to me that the 'new country' contains more of the elements of true rock & roll than most of what's on the pop charts: the simiplicity, the immediacy, the commitment to a feeling. Even formally speaking, there are more TRUE rock & roll records on country radio today than on CHR or AOR radio. (Who rocks more: Highway 101 or Rush; Patty Loveless or Whitney Houston?)
ANASTASIA PANTSIOSCleveland
Except I'm pretty sure I've never fully believed that "simplicity" is a hallmark of "true" rock & roll. And I also never really liked Patty Loveless much (though maybe I just missed her best stuff).
― xhuxk, Thursday, 23 April 2009 03:17 (seventeen years ago)
Highway 101 was okay, though tried to replace the lead singer *after* establishing selves with her; does that ever work (not talking about early-ass lead singers, like the guy before Bloom in BOC). But "rocks more"? if it mattered, Rush (though a Canadian female label person tells me they were always " boys' band," so I would pick them, except I often prefer female lead singers). Patty Loveless can be pungent on occasion (although a lot of country music was most popular on cassettes, which tended to have typical 80s cheese, like the synth on Dolly Parton's version of Woody G.'s "Deportee," although it kind of worked anyway. Either that, or it would be intended as Real Country, thus thin beer on 80s cassettes, not that I don't have good 80s cassettes, but usually not ones aimed at toppermost of the poppermost)
― dow, Thursday, 23 April 2009 05:41 (seventeen years ago)
Bluegrass alert: I've been spinning Brothers From Different Mothers, the new album from Dailey & Vincent, released at the end of March by Rounder. These guys have fantastic harmonies. While they possess a touch of modern Nashville, they also recall the classic brother duos: Louvins, Blue Sky Boys, Monroes, Everlys, etc. Great fusion of past and present. I'm just really blown away that they AREN'T brothers.
http://www.myspace.com/thedaileyvincentband
― QuantumNoise, Thursday, 23 April 2009 18:57 (seventeen years ago)
I wrote about Keith Urban's newest album for PopMatters: http://www.popmatters.com/pm/review/73078-keith-urban-defying-gravity/
It's a spiel about the album as romantic fantasy. I've been enjoying hearing it on that level, as a dream.
― erasingclouds, Friday, 24 April 2009 11:21 (seventeen years ago)
okay, what the fuck is happening with john rich?
― pinkmoose, Friday, 24 April 2009 12:33 (seventeen years ago)
Um...Welcome back, Anthony! But care to elaborate on what precisely you're referring to? (There's lots and lots on John Rich upthread. Still haven't heard the whole album myself, though.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 24 April 2009 12:42 (seventeen years ago)
re: john rich
a) the fights, the law suits, the drinking, the sneaking underage girls into lower broadway bars, the ambigious marriage, the coke, the whole mccain stuff, the whole homophobic daddy stuff, what ever is happening with john anderson, etc etc i read the upthread john rich stuff, but this seems like the possbility of a book, or at least one of those late 70s rock exposes no one ever writes or publishes anymore.
and since i am here:
adam gregory is a nice suburban kid, from st albert, who has been flirting with american success for half a decade, he has been playing since he was 12. not v. interesting, thought charting on a dance remix is nice.
sissy's song by jackson, is there anything interesting there at all?
i really love eric church, and have written about him a bit, i think it is is voice more then his politics.
my review of the john rich should be up this week, the only real country writing i have done all year, though i got a big interview with the (niche/cult) lutheran singer songwriter johnathon rundman at killing the buddha--nice guy, brilliant writer.
i got into graduate school and moved to toronto, and decided ilx was a time dump that made me lazy, and chart/alt country both have really bored me, it seems to be in a semi major lull, and my ears must be broken because i am genuinely confounded by all the love for jamey johnson. (i also sort of realised how reactionary most of the genre, at least politcally, and i sort of got sad by that and took a break)
chuck, when i am next in austin (maybe next year) (gonna be in slc next year, and detroit in october, and upstate ny this year) can we go to cinch or the rainbow cattle company.
i presented this at the pop culture assoc of america conference this year, in new orleans (i love new orleans, more then any american city i have been to, a lot like montreal, cheap and fun, with handsome men, drinking on the streets, and an overlay of catholic aesthetics.
http://pinkmoose.blogspot.com/2009/04/in-last-few-years-country-music-has.html
― pinkmoose, Friday, 24 April 2009 13:00 (seventeen years ago)
not jon anderson ashley jordan
― pinkmoose, Friday, 24 April 2009 13:01 (seventeen years ago)
the fights, the law suits, the drinking, the sneaking underage girls into lower broadway bars, the ambigious marriage, the coke...the whole homophobic daddy stuff...ashley jordan
I know basically nothing about any of this stuff (assuming any of it has any actual truth to it); tend not to read the tabloids. Any way to give us a thumbnail rundown of what allegedly has happened when, or at least a link where one can read about it?
one of those late 70s rock exposes no one ever writes or publishes anymore.
I read Hammer of The Gods a long time ago. But mostly I don't care much about rock stars' personal lives. (Never read The Dirt, even -- really, what's more boring than coke and groupies?) Not sure if I'd make an exception for John Rich.
i really love eric church... voice more then his politics
He seems really uneven to me, but yeah, when he's good he's really good. (About third to half of his new album, maybe, which isn't as good as his first one.) Know basically nothing about his politics, beyond that completely cryptic (to me) "little more right and little less left" line on his new album.
cinch or the rainbow cattle company
Don't even know these places (I'm really new here, and don't get out as much as I probably should), but sure, I'll meet up somewhere.
― xhuxk, Friday, 24 April 2009 13:39 (seventeen years ago)
i always like sexy scandals, the lurid, and god knows country could use some roughing up.
i loved the dirt!
did you ever hear the eric church song "she won't leave my willie alone", naughty record styore double entendre song, really funny.
two big gay country bars.
― pinkmoose, Friday, 24 April 2009 13:43 (seventeen years ago)
Do they serve Stella on tap?
Anyway, my wife was asking me about a song called something like "She Won't Leave My Willie Alone" that she heard a couple times on the Texas-country (as opposed to commercial country) station here, but she thought it was by somebody other than Eric (who she knowsmainly because of my T-shirt that says "I Don't Like To Fight But I Ain't Scared To Bleed" on it, which I embarrassingly wore to the 20th Annual Cotton Gin Festival in Burton over the weekend, where the cotton and hay made my allergies go crazy and the local sausage was disappointing -- not kraut, wtf? -- but the polka band was kinda cool.)
Haven't heard the song myself...
― xhuxk, Friday, 24 April 2009 14:06 (seventeen years ago)
Oops, correction -- Lalena says the song she heard was actually "DON'T TOUCH My Willie," by Kevin Fowler. Whole lotta willies going on apparently.
(And I meant "no kruat, wtf?", obviously.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 24 April 2009 14:11 (seventeen years ago)
Also better than those Buck Cherry albums (which were ridiculously spotty, truth be told -- they could use a best-of someday if that ballad hit last year didn't suck so bad): Michael Stanley Band, Heartland (1980, $1). George had made me a real good CD-R called The Thumbnail Michael Stanley a few years back, highlighting what I took to be his hardest rocking songs, but the only one from this LP that's on there seems to be his early-Bryan Adams/Rick Springfield-type hard pop smash "He Can't Love You" (Stanley's biggest hit -- went to #33) -- which might not even be the best track here, and definitely isn't the hardest rocking. Really like the tough Diddley beat "Working Again," the even bigger-rhythmed "Voodoo," and the midwestern praire rocker (as in Head East/REO) "Save A Little Piece For Me" (where "save a little piece" sounds more like "sentimental bitch"). And "All I Ever Wanted" hits me as some kind of middle ground between Mitch Ryder (he's listening to a Detroit station, like when Mitch covered the Velvets' "Rock and Roll") and Eddie Money nostalgia classics like "Take Me Home Tonight" from a few years later. A couple extremely furry mustaches in the band, too. Still doesn't seem to have broken them far beyond Cleveland much more than momentarily, though. (On the CD-R that George made, last time I checked, my favorite tracks were "Rosewood Bitters" -- Joe Walsh on guitar I believe, "Heavy Weight," "He Can't Love You," "Hard Time," near-hit "My Town," and "Fire In The Hole.")
― xhuxk, Friday, 24 April 2009 14:49 (seventeen years ago)
(Oops, that was meant for the rolling hard rock thread! Still kinda applies here though, in a way.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 24 April 2009 14:51 (seventeen years ago)
In 70s Guide, xgau called the Michael Stanley Band "Cleveland's answer to Pere Ubu." Also, QuantumNoise, thanx for the fresh 'grass link, and speaking of that and Rounder, here's an early example of something much rarer at the time, 'tude-wise, and also rare at any time, xgau-bluegrass-approval-wise: (this is an excerpt)"Breakfast Special:(s/t)(Rounder '79)...among citybilly archivists (bluegrass)only magnifies the usual folkie escapisms---purism and pastoral nostalgia---by encouraging mindless virtuosity. Which makes this virtuosic but eclectically streetwise record a small miracle that should delight anyone more spiritually attuned to the genre than a faithless wrietch like me. B+" So prob A- for others, unless it's been surpassed by updates. Oh yeah, and that Amazing Rhythm Aces LP I was thinking of is Stacked Deck, def the one to start with, though I liked Too Stuff To Jump more than xgau, made me think of a prematurely country radio-aimed Steely Dan (thinking a country alt-univese path for first-album-maybe-real-band Dan)
― dow, Friday, 24 April 2009 15:57 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.lefthip.com/albums/1187
― pinkmoose, Friday, 24 April 2009 22:09 (seventeen years ago)
So, here's the "what the fuck is happening with John Rich" link that Anthony posted to from poptimists. Haven't read it all (and have no idea if any of it is true), but Anthony's right -- it's pretty juicy:
http://www.nashvillegab.com/2009/03/john-rich-in-action.html
― xhuxk, Saturday, 25 April 2009 00:27 (seventeen years ago)
My favorite part of the recording is the end when Rich tells the guy, "Pay your taxes!"
― President Keyes, Saturday, 25 April 2009 02:15 (seventeen years ago)
Finally saw the "Shutting Detroit Down" video: the whole pore ole man gettin' canned bit slopped a ton of sobs on, cos lay-off of a younger guy (or gal) just wouldn't have conveyed the true sadness. And jeez, Kristofferson's played many a cooler geezer (shoulda made the foreman his final stop on the assembly line)
― dow, Saturday, 25 April 2009 06:02 (seventeen years ago)
Agree with Don. Song's fine, video is mediocre. Kristofferson playing a wounded fired old man -- now that's a stretch. And Mickey Rourke doing a body block from "The Wrestler." Must've taken all of thirty minutes to write, block and shoot.
The entire thing was too scruffy. The plants are very modern and robotic now. Video seemed a bit like the look from "Roger & Me," only not really as good. Only "Roger & Me" was lefty voxpop and John Rich is righty voxpop, correct? Hmmm, now I'm all confused. Or more likely country is more confused, kind of like Republicans, not really getting that it's been the mass voting for right-wing policy and worship of entirely unregulated markets, crony big business and capitalism for the past eight years that's built the mess Rich is singing about.
That said, the video is great cornpone mythology for CMT and GAC.
― Gorge, Saturday, 25 April 2009 17:16 (seventeen years ago)
Speaking of "Roger And Me," there was an interesting piece in the Times the other day about how Flint wants to condense its mostly barren 75 neighborhoods in 34 square miles into just a few neighborhoods to save money on municipal utilities, etc., and bulldoze the rest and reforest it. The mayor and city council members are proposing to offer that the city relocate to bigger homes residents who are still hanging on in doomed 'hoods.
Heard the Flatlanders' great Guthrie-flip-flopping recession song "Homeland Refugee" on an actual commercial radio station today (an Adult Alternative station, but still), which means it now officially qualifies as a 2009 country single by my definition (even if it's quite possibly not being played anywhere else -- in Austin, the Flatlanders count as a local band). Still haven't heard "High Cost Of Living" on the radio even once, fwiw. Also heard Pat Green's "What I'm For" for the first time on the radio today; sounded real good segued into a a live Merle "Okee," then Confederate Railroad's "Trashy Women," which has got to be most bawdily sung male country hit of the past 20 years or so, with burlesque-grind lyrics about brazen broads to match.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 25 April 2009 22:33 (seventeen years ago)
Alabama singer-songwriter Mac McAnally's Wiki page informs that his connection to country music is basically that he had one top 20 country hit in 1983, four singles that charted between 62 and 72 country in the early '90s, and a guest spot on Kenny Chesney's chart-topping cover last year of his #70 1990 hit "Down The Road." Before he had any country hits, he had one pop hit -- "It's A Crazy World," #37 in 1977. Dave Marsh called him "typical self-pitying country-inflected singer-songwriter wheeze." Christgau called his '77 debut outspoken and compares him to Joe South and liked the rape-victim revenge song, but gives a B-. Anyway, bought his 1980 LP Cuttin' Corners for $1 at a thrift store yesterday, and it took me a couple listens, but I like it -- yeah, some James Taylor/Croce-type self-pity, but warmly and expressively sung, with memorable melodies and some clever wordplay and passably eccentric yacht-loungechair arrangements that remind me of Steely Dan sometimes. He tries bluegrass once, and a sort of Diddley-beat white light funk (somewhere in between the Dead and Dave Matthews maybe) a couple times, notably in "Party," which is about the Republicans and Democrats not constituing good enough choices for the 1980 presdiential election: "It takes a whole lot less to feed a donkey than an elephant/But a donkey he's more likely to forget." Not sure what he's getting at there, to be honest. Wonder if he wound up voting for Reagan, or who. Best song titles: "It's My Job" (about how songwriters can't complain but sometimes he still does), "Cuttin' Corners (Advanced Geometry)," "Trying To Make The Yellow Lights," and "California Is a Mental State," which sounds like "Jackie Blue" by the Ozark Mountain Daredevils.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 26 April 2009 23:27 (seventeen years ago)
Actually think the album's better than my hacked-out description makes it sounds; I wasn't taking notes. Anyway, one reason I looked up McAnally's country credentials is that the LP doesn't sound especially country, except for the obvious hippie bluegrass move. So maybe country is something he crossed over to. Turns out he's later written lotsa hits, for Jimmy Buffett (who covered "It's My Job"), Steve Wariner, Alabama, Ricky Van Shelton, etc.
― xhuxk, Monday, 27 April 2009 00:26 (seventeen years ago)
Just got done seeing John Rich and his vid at the end of Hannity. Fairly twisted, since Hannity has always been typically right wing in his union workers hate. So all of a sudden he starts yapping about how heart-breaking Rich's video is with Kris K. getting fired and having a heart attack and all the money is being given to AIG but none for ... wait for it, the small business owners of America. Which should've provoked gales of laughter but didn't because it was time to cut away to the Geraldo Rivera show. Yeah, that vid's so about the small business owners of America who aren't getting any breaks.
― Gorge, Monday, 27 April 2009 02:06 (seventeen years ago)
Well, GM's doing small business these days, sales-wise, anyway. Unfortunately the MacHit written to go that's stayed with me is the one for Cletus Judd's Christmas album, "Rudolph The Alternative Lifestyle Reindeer." Stayed not cos it's so good or even bad, but truly out-of left(actually right, in this case)-field gratuitous (I hope some giggling adults, if any such there were, had to explain to their kiddies, but prob the latter had already absorbed such family values, at least on the playground, or behind the barn)(Where is ol CJ? I miss him. Last I heard, he'd decided to leave off the meds for bipolar, just leave it in the Lord's hands. Roky tried the same thing, and sometimes it's worked--but his condition doesn't seem to have been bipolar, judging by the DVD-extras documentary etc)
― dow, Monday, 27 April 2009 02:34 (seventeen years ago)
Like if Roky's tag read "schizophrenic," he might've gradually spontaneously remitted with age, as seems to have happened with John Nash(never made it through the movie of A Beautiful Mind, but the book is an awesome social map; read it about five times, and that never happens).
― dow, Monday, 27 April 2009 02:37 (seventeen years ago)
Noticed this on the R&B/Hip-Hop Song Chart this week: What, a New Orleans Bounce Rap cover of Gary Allan covering Vertical Horizon? Or just a remarkable coincidence?
78 NEW 1 Best I Ever Had, Drake Not Listed (Not Listed ) Cash Money PROMO SINGLE | Universal Motown |
I actually thought Allan's version sounded pleasingly hair-metal last time I heard it on the radio, btw. Haven't heard Vertical Horizon's in a really long time; I assume it's a lot worse though.
― xhuxk, Monday, 27 April 2009 21:38 (seventeen years ago)
Lex made this connection over on lj:
Do you know Bobbie Gentry's 'Fancy', btw? Struck me today - no idea why I didn't think of this earlier - that The-Dream's 'Fancy' is basically the same story taken up from a different character's viewpoint at a different point in time. (Destiny's Child's 'Fancy' could be the Greek chorus of the Moral Majority singing their disapproval.)
Lex is going to interview The-Dream in three weeks, and will ask him about it.
(More of the convo here.)
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 27 April 2009 23:13 (seventeen years ago)
The order of how much I liked the seven '09 country albums (one of which I haven't mentioned here before, and deals with divorcing a Dixie Chick) I relistened to today (not what I would've predicted):
1. Collin Raye – Never Going Back (Time Life)2. Pat Green – What I’m For (BNA)3. The Boxmasters – Modbilly (Vanguard)4. (Various) – The Man Of Somebody’s Dreams: A Tribute To The Songs Of Chris Gaffney (Yep Roc)5. Charlie Robison – Beautiful Day (Dualtone)6. Eric Church – Carolina (Capitol)7. The Flatlanders – Hills And Valleys (New West)8. Rodney Atkins -- It’s America (Curb)
Ballads on the Collin Raye album just sound like really pretty Eagles ballads in the background. I still haven't attended to their words yet.
Favorite non-single on Pat Green's album: "In This World."
Not entirely sure why the Rodney Atkins album is starting to fading on me -- Seems a little too four-square, somehow. Too normal. So I'm kinda not buying it. Though maybe that's only temporary, who knows.
The Flatlanders album seems increasingly beautiful.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 04:04 (seventeen years ago)
(I meant eight albums not seven, obv. And "starting to fade on me." I should clearly go to bed.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 04:06 (seventeen years ago)
Robison's always struck me as smugly slack, except when he seemed like he wanted to strike somebody connected to the Biz. Called Austin the "velvet coffin" for musicians, and I've heard that before, it's a sweet trap for some (just sweet home for others, later for TrashVegas. but he gave it a shot, sorta. So cranky in interviews; hope he channeled that on into more-than-self-righteous songs, but not the ones I've heard, muttering in their sleep.
― dow, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 04:45 (seventeen years ago)
Oh yeah, I saw the Rich vid again, and thought the Kristofferson character might seem appropriate in a way unintended: like, some might say," Yeah, that's GM, a breakin'-down old man, and let's pull the plug"--especially since that's done in non-unionized places, before they work there long enough to be eligible for alll the benefits (hell, the cutoff point used to be just under a certain quota's first year, at a certain superstore, much less Kris's decades,courtesy of, yeah, the aforementioned evil unions--wonder what Rich thinks of those). Was already thinking along those lines before I heard an axpert on Public Radio's "Marketplace," making succinctly obvious points about GM closing down Pontiac, and not stretching resources too far--then he suddenly ran with/for the lifeboat analogy, and what if everybody gets some of the rations, but everybody's starving slowly, and--the host somoothly thanked and cut him off before he got to "Granpa's gotta go!" but we'll be hearing some of that spelled out, especially when Obama gets to Social Security this summer (although it might be a prob for Rush etc since the diehardcore conservatives aren't getting any younger)
― dow, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 04:59 (seventeen years ago)
See, there's the thing: the Republicans now stand for everything illogical, whacking people with union jobs, whacking Social Security, etc... And until Obama the parties constituents in those demographics illogically voted for policy makers most likely to smight them. But now thing's are different because you can't blame the huge holes blown in the economy on non-whites, homos, union men, and pro-abortionites. And everytime I see a newer country video there's this cognitive dissonance thing going on, that they now know they're nostalgia trip and white indentity rural mythology has been ripped apart, stomped on and brought close to destruction by, well, the "flag-wavers" and "America-love-it-or-leave-it" hypocrites who were in power for the last decade.
So John Rich has been on Hannity more than once but his sentiments, unless he's always drunk, nuts or both, make no sense in the context of that program. It's sort of like Erwin Rommel finding himself a national figure and stuck with the Third Reich goons hell-bent bent on self-destruction in 1944. In this case, the suicide pill is being Sean Hannity's pal.
I'm happy the country video people can still have their fantasies, videography and, after all, very nice tunes. But that stuff just doesn't look or wear good anywhere else right at the moment. Neither, however, does ol' Shakey. Really, a concept album about him making his flivver into an electric car. Or how 'bout Bruce, wha'do his tickets cost these days? And is he going to wash away all the pain with a stadium show?
― Gorge, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 20:55 (seventeen years ago)
Paste is streaming the new Dylan album. I'm listening as I catch up on this thread. First four songs are hard blues, hazy old pop, hazy blues, accordion roll. Sounds comfortable, though the Paste reviewer, who listened hard to the lyrics, didn't feel it was comfortable at all.
― Frank Kogan, Thursday, 30 April 2009 03:28 (seventeen years ago)
I'll check that out; think I sent you the RCRDLBL.com or however it's spelled of "Beyond Here Lies Nothing," didn't I? Sonically, seemed to be all about not, just the grain but the whisker of the voice "Every Grain of Sand," that's a good old Dylan song, from the 90s, isn't it?), with the band like a scoop of gumbo scudding around the steam table, and gumbo shouldn't lump enough to scoop like that, but it could've been my radio (since I still haven't listened to the mp3). But that doesn't mean the rest of it isn't good, anyway.
― dow, Thursday, 30 April 2009 05:25 (seventeen years ago)
In 70s Guide, xgau called the Michael Stanley Band "Cleveland's answer to Pere Ubu."
Can't find this at robertchristgau.com. Also, since Pere Ubu are also Cleveland, I can't quite make sense of this statement.
― Frank Kogan, Thursday, 30 April 2009 22:13 (seventeen years ago)
It's not on his website because it's only in the "Distinctions Not Cost-Effective (Or: Who Cares?)" appendix of Xgau's '70s book. And since he obviously knows Ubu were from Cleveland, I always just took it as a silly joke -- and a fairly funny one, at that, even if it did let him off the hook from listening to Michael Stanley, who was good.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 30 April 2009 22:29 (seventeen years ago)
Marianne Faithfull's version of "Down From Dover." (Xgau gave the album a full A, which I'll have to hear to believe.)
― Frank Kogan, Thursday, 30 April 2009 23:40 (seventeen years ago)
Caitlin of Caitlin & Will seems to have the last name of "Lynn," and that's what their MySpace and her Twitter say, but I've also seen her referred to as Caitlin Fisher. Is that an earlier name? an alternate name? It's how CMT lists her on its Can You Duet clips.
― Frank Kogan, Friday, 1 May 2009 00:05 (seventeen years ago)
I thought this was the best of their Can You Duet performances:
"Like We Never Loved At All"
― Frank Kogan, Friday, 1 May 2009 00:48 (seventeen years ago)
Ah, Caitlin Lynn Fisher decided to shorten her stage name to Caitlin Lynn. (If you ask me, "Caitlin Lynn" is redundant, but nobody asked me. Maybe her full name is Caitlin Kate Lynn Fisher.) Also, she used to be ska-punk rock girl.
http://www.hometownglenburnie.com/news/mdgazette/2008/06/25-31
― Frank Kogan, Friday, 1 May 2009 06:58 (seventeen years ago)
If I know absolutely *nothing* at all about pop country music, but have been given a CD featuring the songs "Last Name" by Carrie Underwood, and "Long Time Gone" by Dixie Chicks, and I find myself enjoying them quite a bit, what are 5 more songs along these lines that I should purchase from the iTunes store?
― Shannon Whirry & the Bad Brains, Friday, 1 May 2009 12:19 (seventeen years ago)
xhuxk, not to get off topic, but this is a very interesting concept that's been slowly gaining ground in the industrial north (a.k.a. rust belt), where both of us grew up, I believe. (I'm originally from central New York.) A few years back the Cleveland Scene ran a piece on Youngstown's young, go-getting mayor who was elected, in part, on the concept of downsizing. His argument was this: The industrial north is never going to be what it once was, so instead of trying to revitalize a crumbling infrastructures, why not dissolve these cities and in essence, return them to their pre-WWII states? This idea is going to take years to test, but it is rather intriguing. At first, folks around the country laughed this guy off, but hey, nothing else has worked so why not?
Okay, back to country...
― QuantumNoise, Friday, 1 May 2009 16:02 (seventeen years ago)
Well, the only thing wrong with the idea is that you have to have something for the people to do when you dissolve the city, or you just have 'em in a brokedown destitute less urban setting, like West Virginia or Schuylkill County, PA. Part of the problem has been the getting out of the business of making stuff, which was OK as long as you could make prices lower and lower by moving it all to China, picking up jobs as middlemen, and the credit and business bubble didn't bust. So now global demand for goods, except necessities, is way down and no one to make anything in the US -- except weapons and high-end goods -- when some demand gradually comes back.
― Gorge, Friday, 1 May 2009 19:47 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, I guess the real problem with the plan is long-term -- There are very good reasons that populations in cities like Flint have plummetted, and there's no good reason to think that trend won't continue; moving the remaining hangers-on into less abandoned neighborhoods isn't the same as creating work for them when the jobs they have now (assuming they're working) disappear. I'd be curious if there's some way to deal with that, in the plans being proposed by mayors in Flint and Youngstown. (I've spent nights in hotels in Youngstown -- it's the closest thing to a viable halfway point when you're driving from Philly or NYC to Detroit -- and it definitely had the hellhole feel of an industrial city that had seen better days.) The NYT piece (linked below) also mentioned Indianapolis and Little Rock:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/22/business/22flint.html?_r=1
As for George's post above about country music, like the Republican Party, representing (or feigning to speak for) a increasingly insignificant cultural segment that realizes its on its last legs by its own doing but needs somebody else to blame, I've been thinking that all year. It's possible the music's boxed itself into a corner. And, like I think Anthony suggested here last week, it's probably one reason that Nashville music isn't really resonating all that well right now. I assume a lot of people in Nashville know that the music has to somehow shed its small-tent-in-a-small-town mindset and prejudices, but I don't think country has really figured out how to do that, and I'm not really sure it will. Darius Rucker doesn't quite cut it. So know-nothing tea-party quasi-populism could be a natural way out, but that's hardly a long term plan either, and I'm not sure country as a whole has the stomach for it -- Toby seems to like Obama too much, and I have a feeling that Sugarland might too. Right now, the two biggest songs on the country chart -- Rodney Atkins' explicitly if accidentally bigoted "It's America" and "She's Country" by the seemingly not-too-bright Jason Aldean -- feel like dead ends to me, like something hanging on from an older era already, even though I basically like the Atkins album and I think Aldean stole a hot riff as usual. Though then again, it's not like pop or r&b or commercial rock sound notably more brilliant right now. And I probably listen to country radio in the car more than those other formats. But then I'm in its demographic, after all.
There's some potentially interesting movement further down the chart -- "High Cost of Living," which I'd assumed had stalled out, somehow climbed 40 to 39 to 35 in the past couple weeks. Seems like a textbook love-it-or-hate-it potential turn-the-station song to my ears; I wonder where it's getting played. And Love and Theft's "Runaway" is up to 38, after a couple weeks at 43. Lots of placements being shaken up at the bottom of the chart, too, though I'm not sure how good any of these are (and I don't expect they'd add up to anything, even if they were):
55 59 2 Dead Flowers, Miranda Lambert F.Liddell,M.Wrucke (M.Lambert ) Columbia PROMO SINGLE | 55 56 NEW 1 Dreaming Love, Kate & Kacey J.Stover (K.Coppola,K.Coppola,D.Myrick ) Big Machine DIGITAL | 56 57 NEW 1 Bobby With An I, Phil Vassar P.Vassar (P.Vassar,C.Wiseman ) Universal South PROMO SINGLE | 57 58 NEW 1 Heart Like Memphis, Carter Twins F.Rogers (B.Daly,A.Gorley,L.T.Miller ) CMT/Meteor 17 DIGITAL | CO5 | 58 59 NEW 1 Six-Foot Teddybear, Richie McDonald J.Stroud,R.McDonald (R.McDonald,R.Harbin,P.Douglas ) Stroudavarious DIGITAL | 59 60 RE-ENTRY 2 She Never Got Me Over You, Mark Chesnutt J.Ritchey (D.Dillon,K.Whitley,H.Cochran ) Big 7 DIGITAL | Lofton Creek | 60 Never heard of Kate & Kacey or the Carter Twins, and don't know when I'll have the energy to youtube them, though their names suggest more Can You Duet types. Never heard of Richie McDonald, either, but "Six-Foot Teddybear" is a pretty icky title.
― xhuxk, Friday, 1 May 2009 21:40 (seventeen years ago)
"Last Name" by Carrie Underwood, and "Long Time Gone" by Dixie Chicks...what are 5 more songs along these lines
I don't want to ignore this question from Shannon, either (hi Shannon!), but I'm not sure where to go with it -- There have to be Sugarland or Shedaisy or Mindy McCready or Joe Dee Messina or Martina McBride or Taylor Swift songs that fit the bill, right? I'm just stumped right now about which ones they'd be...
― xhuxk, Friday, 1 May 2009 21:46 (seventeen years ago)
assume a lot of people in Nashville know that the music has to somehow shed its small-tent-in-a-small-town mindset and prejudices, but I don't think country has really figured out how to do that, and I'm not really sure it will. Darius Rucker doesn't quite cut it.
Well, there's no reason to fail music just made to melodically make people happy. Staying away from the mythology and any deeper meaning or shibboleths... Anyway, Adkins' "Marry for Money" fits a long tradition, a good rip on "First I Look at the Purse," although much less frantic.It will always be timeless.
And buying sex and booze ... those are still necessities of US life no matter your demographic.
But the "we drove giant pick-up trucks" shtick just seems stupid. Yeah, been layed off, am upside down on my auto loan. Hey, come to think of it, -that- is a great idea for a country song. Thing is, most of these current records were made when no one had any idea how fast problems would change the entire landscape, so they're not really to blame for being stuck with lyrically awkward material.
― Gorge, Friday, 1 May 2009 22:01 (seventeen years ago)
I'm not sure country as a whole has the stomach for it
Partly because, as much as I love a lot of what comes out of Nashville, it does tend to hedge its bets -- even on the right-wing side. Which might partially explain John Rich, besides the fact that I doubt even he knows what he really thinks. These guys probably understand that, if they swing too far to the right, especially now, they risk losing their audience share. So at least now, compared to the Republicans, country actually feels pretty moderate. And I'd love to see Tim McGraw or Pat Green or even Toby himself take on the Hannitys and Limbaughs in a song, but I'll be very surprised if it ever happens. But right, lyrics about getting laid off and having trouble paying bills seem like a no-brainer now. And maybe we'll start hearing more in coming months.
Adkins' "Marry for Money" fits a long tradition, a good rip on "First I Look at the Purse,"
Or "I've Come To Wive It Wealthily In Padua," from Kiss Me Kate.
― xhuxk, Friday, 1 May 2009 22:16 (seventeen years ago)
Lotta lends naturally to country, especially in California. You can now easily wind up paying more in auto-insurance per year than yer car's actually worth if it's between 5-10 years old, depending on the model and your driving record. And you easily wind up being really downwardly mobile in living arrangment if you have to give up your house because of unemployment because -- no one -- in nicer areas will rent to anyone who's unemployed. Leading you to lie on your application or try to come up with a way to show fraudulent pay stubs or bank deposits.
One of the thing's common now is the daily demonstration that there's absolutely NO MERCY to be had in the American way of doing things, Barack Obama or not. It would take years of a president ramming through expansive agendas to get even a fraction of consideration back. For a country where the people think they're generous and giving, we're definitively ungenerous in practice and programmed to be that way on the mythology of taking personal responsibility.
I guess Pete Seeger had something going -- maybe country could identify with.
That said, I like Jessica Harp's slut rock number, "Boy Like Me," but I'll be damned if I know what it has to do with country other than it being on cable music video and having some country instrumentation appliques added to it like sequins.
― Gorge, Saturday, 2 May 2009 00:23 (seventeen years ago)
Shannon, I'll take a shot at this. Basically, most of the teenpop-leaning country lasses are children of Natalie Maines, though I think they're far more comfortable with country's evangelical fundie leanings than Natalie ever was. Anyhow, five tracks I'd choose are:
Miranda Lambert "Down"Little Big Town "Good As Gone"Taylor Swift "Should've Said No"Ashley Monroe "Satisfied"LeAnn Rimes "Family"
OK, LeAnn's voice isn't remotely like Natalie's, but the track employs a similar strategy to "Long Time Gone"'s of using shack-in-the-woods plinks as a feint to set up what in its heart is hard rock.
A bonus #6 would be SHeDAISY's "Lucky 4 You (Tonight I'm Just Me)," which is Dixieish and hilarious but not along the lines of "Long Time Gone."
For Little Big Town, you'll have to accept Fleetwood Mac as among the roots of modern country, which they are, partly thanks to the Dixies.
And of course, I'd add the Dixie Chicks' "Lubbock Or Leave It" and Carrie Underwood's "Before He Cheats," the latter of which is Carrie's best song by several thousand miles.
For extra credit I recommend Aly & AJ's "Rush" and Jordan Pruitt's "Outside Looking In," neither of which are country but both feel relevant, somehow.
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 4 May 2009 04:45 (seventeen years ago)
The Singles Jukebox takes on Caitlin & Will.
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 4 May 2009 04:53 (seventeen years ago)
New Taylor Swift vid for "You Belong With Me"; on my lj I described it thus: "Band-nerd-in-glasses Taylor Swift employs venerable communication technology to snare boy next door, defeating her evil, popular, dark-haired double":
(Presumably Big Machine will whack that link sometime in the next few days; here's another, though it'll probably also fail to survive.)
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 4 May 2009 05:08 (seventeen years ago)
(By the way, I didn't mean to imply that Miranda and Little Big Town are teenpop-leaning, though I wouldn't mind it if they were embraced by the wee ones. Basically I meant Taylor and Carrie.)
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 4 May 2009 05:28 (seventeen years ago)
Caitlin & Will's mushy new ballad single about unsuccessfully attempting to mail a letter to a dead loved one is not nearly as good as their cheating-on-each-other song (which is indeed great. And it's been a while since a country couple hit with one of those, hasn't it? Except I have no idea if Caitlin & Will are a couple, in the romantic sense. Plus "Even Now" wasn't actually a hit, apparently. I do like how neither duo member seems physically attractive in any traditional American sense, however.)
I don't understand how CMT's Can You Duet works, but Caitlin & Will hadn't even met before the competition. They'd each showed up with different partners, the judges (or whoever) threw out the respective partners in Round One (or whatever) and I guess Caitlin and Will were assigned to each other.
As for their lack of traditional beauty, I love Rodney's response to this picture over on the Jukebox, "Wait… they look like an Evanescence reject and a short-order cook at a sub-Denny’s diner?":
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9626/caitlinandwillgothandde.jpg
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 4 May 2009 19:55 (seventeen years ago)
(And a new link for "Like We Never Loved At All.")
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 4 May 2009 20:10 (seventeen years ago)
most of the teenpop-leaning country lasses are children of Natalie Maines
This inspires me to recommend this alternate list of five songs to Shannon, since today's teenpop-leaning country lasses are sort of children of these, too (whether they know it or not):
Mindy McCready, "Oh Romeo"Faith Hill, "Wild One"Rebecca Lynn Howard, "Pink Flamingo Kind Of Love"Alecia Elliott, "I'm Diggin' It"Meredith Edwards, "The Bird Song"
Honorable mentions/Extra credit:Jessica Andrews, "You Go First"Possibly something by Cyndi Thompson (though I'm not sure which song I'd pick)
Caveat: I don't think any of these sound as hard rock as Carrie's "Last Name"* or as bluegrass as the Dixie Chicks' "Long Time Gone." But I feel they are somehow in the same neighborhood, wherever that is.
* -- Well, actually, "I'm Diggin' It" might. But it's got more funk and bubblegum in it, which might counteract the hard-rock feeling for some people.
(Shania Twain probably belongs here someplace, too.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 4 May 2009 21:02 (seventeen years ago)
I also want to note that, in the car yesterday, I heard Dierks Bentley's "Sideways" within ten minutes of Paul Wall's "Sittin' Sideways" (on different stations, unfortunately) and liked them both pretty much exactly the same as each other. (But I didn't like either of them nearly as much as "Bizzy Body," Paul Wall's current single featuring Webbie and Mouse, which gains likeability points by reminding me why I used to like the Ying Yang Twins so much.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 4 May 2009 21:08 (seventeen years ago)
Thanks a lot, Frank and Xhuxk.I'll start digging around and report back!
― Shannon Whirry & the Bad Brains, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 12:30 (seventeen years ago)
Cool, Shannon! One more caveat, though, before you start spending your money: A couple of the songs I named (definitely the Alecia Elliott one, and maybe the Rebecca Lynn Howard and Meredith Edwards ones too) are also much emotionally lighter -- more giddy fun, less intense -- than "Long Time Gone" or "Last Name" (or most of the tracks Frank named, for that matter.) But they're still good! Hope you like them.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 13:48 (seventeen years ago)
Actually, come to think of it, this might be way more along the line of what you're looking for:
Ashton Shepherd, "Takin' Off This Pain"
But that's already a whole lot of songs to sift through, between Frank's recommendations and mine.
But what the heck, how about more? Here are the six songs that pandora.com calls "similar" to "Long Time Gone" (none of which I can vouch for one way or the other):
Dolly Parton, "Marry Me"Alison Krauss, "Doesn't Have To Be This Way"Alison Krauss, "Don't Follow Me"Alison Krauss, "The Lucky One (Live)"Donna Hughes, "Bottom Of A Glass"Donna Ulisse, "Gone"
And here are the six songs pandora.com claims are similar to "Last Name", ha ha:
Taylor Swift, "You Belong With Me"Taylor Swift, "Fearless"Taylor Swift, "Teardrop On My Guitar (Acoustic Version)"Taylor Swift, "Picture To Burn"Taylor Swift, "Love Story"Taylor Swift, "Breathe"
On a related topic, here is Metal Mike Saunders, via email:
as pop songwriter gaga is a MAAAJOR talent. her and taylor swift are 100 miles beyond anyone else in this country i've heard in eons. (the melody line in Love Story is somethnig i've never heard in my entire life -- just 3, sometimes 4 notes back and forth through the whole chorus while the chords proceed in a pre-beatles C-Am-F-G type chord progression) (the one it took new wave/ramones to bring back from the musical undead zone of "uncool," 12+ whole years later). taylor's current routine of "write some songs, go in and record em on your day/weekend off; repeat; repeat" is classic pre-album rock. (the 4 songs / one session method of producing 1 or 2 future singles back then, THEN pad out the "album tracks" as needed later).
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 15:33 (seventeen years ago)
Anybody heard these? (I have gotten real lazy about youtubing, so maybe somebody can youtube them for me)
51 1 Henry Cartwright's Produce Stand, Trent Tomlinson L.Reynolds,T.Tomlinson (T.Tomlinson,D.Wells,M.Kerr ) Carolwood PROMO SINGLE | 51
55 NEW 1 Foot Stompin', Davisson Brothers Band D.Hanner,B.D.Willis,D.Grau (D.Davisson,C.Davisson ) CharTunes DIGITAL | Yell | 55
― xhuxk, Thursday, 7 May 2009 19:52 (seventeen years ago)
Turns out the Carter Twins are more squeaky-clean teen-pop boy-band soft-rock country, like Love and Theft only not as good (at least as far as their singles, the only songs I've heard by them, go):
Also, first noted on the Rolling Hard Rock thread:
Talas's 1982 Sink Your Teeth Into That...the first band featuring Billy Sheehan to get recorded... closer "Hick Town" concerns growing up in one and needing to get out, and is kind of cool because Jason Aldean's first metal-guitared country hit a couple years ago had exactly the same name.
More on that otherwise non-country LP here:
Rolling Past Expiry Hard Rock 2009
― xhuxk, Friday, 8 May 2009 23:59 (seventeen years ago)
Here's me briefly being meh about Brad Paisley and Sugarland (and giving Kelly a meh-plus and Eminem a less than meh).
― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 10 May 2009 18:27 (sixteen years ago)
About six months on I still haven't figured out what I think of Taylor Swift's Fearless, except that I severely underrated it. Xhuxk was wrong about its being quiet and lacking hooks, except I kind of agree with him anyway. That's because, though it actually has as many or more hooks and loud songs as the first alb, it feels more static, a deep sea of feminine feeling, the songs seeming all to partake of the same ocean, so less differentiated. The problem with the hooks on Fearless is that when they're assertive they get in the way (happened a few times on the first album too, e.g. "Teardrops On My Guitar," where the sing-songy chorus undid the catch-in-a-throat mood). I think the second album works best when a song's parts have an even impact, the hooks and choruses being subordinate to the overall mood. "Love Story" is only half an exception here in that the chorus ramps up the mood without losing it. My favorite track is "You're Not Sorry" which is just floating, dripping, profound hurt. "You Belong With Me" is atypically airy, her shaking the drops off her wings with the "can't you see-ee-ee, you belong with me-ee-ee," but it still partakes of the emotions drifting up from below.
She's a singer-songwriter, of course, reporting on her grand search for self by way of busted relations with boys. Menstrual rock (to adapt a phrase of Adam Sobolak's, who back in an old Radio On said that with "Stand Back" Stevie Nicks had invented menstrual disco). She was on the first album too - crucial song is "Cold As You," cleaner but just as angry as "You're Not Sorry," its relative stillness a set up for the storm unleashed a few tracks later with "Should've Said No" - but the first album had more resolution and release and choruses to take away and hum.
― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 10 May 2009 19:22 (sixteen years ago)
(And of course Natalie Maines is a bridge between the Sea Of Stevie Nicks and the current country lasses.)
― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 10 May 2009 19:25 (sixteen years ago)
(So's Deana Carter.)
― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 10 May 2009 19:46 (sixteen years ago)
If there's anyone around amidst the tumbleweeds, here's what we said on the Jukebox about the Miranda Lambert single, "Dead Flowers." This is the first and no doubt will be the last time my score for a country track is lower than the Jukebox average. (My chief motive for reviewing was to work in an Alice joke, which I had to strain to do.)
Also, there's a fellow who regularly pastes info for tracks 46 through 100 on the country airplay charts on a message board here.
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 11 May 2009 19:21 (sixteen years ago)
What is menstrual rock? What is menstrual disco?
― dow, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 17:43 (sixteen years ago)
They're what come after pre-menstrual rock and pre-menstrual disco.
― Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 22:39 (sixteen years ago)
That's what I was afraid of ("deep sea of feminine feeling""floating, dripping""storm unleashed""cleaner""they're what come after")Countywise (countrywise too) The Band had it down, so to speak: "Rag Mama rag/Do what you wanna do/Aw shag Mama shag/While you're raggin' too." Okay by me, who never could afford to be picky. This Jukebox is a fine thang too.
― dow, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 23:10 (sixteen years ago)
Banastre Tarleton Band of Columbia, MO just called their version "Redwings." Not sure whether Tim McGraw's "Red Ragtop" fits the theme or not.
Herewith, I ketchup with new reissues of three '80s LPs by post-cowpunk urban rustics and onetime inexplicable Pazz & Jop successes the Del-Lords:
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 00:01 (sixteen years ago)
The Jukebox is slammin' great on Taylor's "You Belong With Me."
(By the way, people from here should post on the comment threads there, and vice versa.)
― Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 17:48 (sixteen years ago)
Something I enjoy like a gray day Lonely Street Happy Hour jukebox band is John Doe & The Sadies, on Country Club. The Knitters are ite, but like a high class reunion, whereas The Sadies been playin' since they's babies, or the co-leading Good brothers (offshoots of one of Cananda's beloved Good Brothers) have. No showboating, they've backed Jon Langford and Neko Case and offer discreet but firm, Jeeves-type consultations to idiosyncratic voices. Doe has no prob with that weirdass shift to the bridge ("I wo-OH-nder, if, she's sorree") of "I Still Miss Someone", which gets also gets speeded up just enough, like several other ballads, and Doe even delivers the dread "Help Me Make It Through The Night" with some plausible demonstration of its powers of seduction, more than sodden-ploddin' manipulation, as usually happens with this thing. But most choices aren't that obvious, at least to me. Female voices on here occasionally, but I don't have the credits yet. It's no masterpiece, but purty cool. (Anybody heard the Good Brothers?)
― dow, Thursday, 14 May 2009 14:26 (sixteen years ago)
Menstrual country from Toby:
We talk about your heartbout your brains and your smarts and your medical charts and when... you... start
― xhuxk, Thursday, 14 May 2009 14:38 (sixteen years ago)
Paste magazine asking their readers for donations. Not a fan of the mag's taste or much of its writing, stodge passed-off as maturity (but visuals are impressive); still, this is a bad thing, that it's in trouble.
― Frank Kogan, Thursday, 14 May 2009 21:26 (sixteen years ago)
Ordered the 14-track Epic '97 The Best Of Collin Raye: Direct Hits from Amazon ($0.99 + postage, cheapest hits anthology he had there) since I love his new album so much (still the best new non-reissue album I've heard this year in any genre), and the best-of is solid enough to suggest that his new album is no huge fluke; with less of shot at getting on the radio, he's maybe taking more risks now, but the sound's funkiness hasn't changed all that much. Thing is, turns out my three favorite tracks "That's My Story" (written by Lee Roy Parnell), "My Kind Of Girl" (she likes Martin Luther King and Faulkner), and "Little Rock" (not the Reba song), all country top tens at the time (and all of which I recognized hearing before once I played the CD -- had just never known who did them), all come from Raye's 1994 album Extremes, which an AMG writeup I referred to upthread pegged as his hardest-rocking -- which these tracks pretty much bear out, at least in relation to the rest of what's here. Though he does wind down to pretty decent cover of Journey's "Open Arms" which is one of "4 New Cuts" here that hadn't been released before. (Lorrie Morgan covered "Faithfully" around the same time -- probably my favorite thing she ever did. Not sure if there was any more Journey-country beyond that, but I believe Garth Brooks was a fan.)
Also liking the imminent (due in June) album by this Atlanta Southern rock band Blackberry Smoke -- produced by Dan Huff, which I gather means they might try to pitch it country. Press bio compares them to Molly Hatchet (an exagerration, they're never that heavy) and .38 Special (maybe, though they're not that powerpop) -- they more land somewhere between Montgomery Gentry and the Kentucky Headhunters, I'd say. Which is not a bad place to be.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 16:26 (sixteen years ago)
...Or actually, it'd probably be more accurate to say that the three best tracks on Raye's new album probably do have more funk and rock in them than those three Extreme tracks, but it sounds like a natural progression, not a departure.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 16:33 (sixteen years ago)
So can somebody (maybe Anthony Easton, if he's out there) explain Randy Travis's "Three Wooden Crosses" to me? I get that it's a sermon story, but I'm not sure I'm getting the lesson. Is it something about the preacher gives the hooker his cross after the bus crashes into the 18-wheeler when he hands her his bloody bible (so wait -- maybe he didn't die??), since they'd both been searching for lost souls? Or what? (At first I honestly wondered whether the hooker didn't get a cross because she didn't deserve one, seeing how she's a fallen woman and all. But not even goody-goody Randy could be that pious.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 22:49 (sixteen years ago)
Oh, okay...I just read the lyrics on line. Hooker survives crash, walks away with the bloody bible, reads it to her son, who becomes another preacher, who waves it to his congregation on Sunday. (I actually like the song, btw, despite my confusion.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 23:12 (sixteen years ago)
Via email, of interest to Frank and maybe other folks, almost three years after advances went out:
Nashville, TN (May 18th) – SONY has announced that it will release the original Columbia Records version of Ashley Monroe’s Satisfied album on May 19th at all major digital outlets. The project, produced by Mark Wright, was sidelined during the original Sony BMG merger. “ I was resigned to the idea that this record would never be released” explained singer/songwriter Ashley Monroe. “ I’m very proud of the album we made”. Monroe continues to make impressive strides as both a singer and songwriter. She joined forces with Ronnie Dunn of Brooks & Dunn on the self-penned “I Don’t Want To,” which garnered an Academy of Country Music nomination for Vocal Event and also scored a #1 CMT Video. In November 2008 she was invited by Jack White to join the Raconteurs on a re-make of their song “Old Enough,” which was documented in a short film and video by acclaimed photographer and filmmaker Autumn De Wilde. The project was widely praised and led to other Monroe collaborations with members of the group. Ashley Monroe has established herself as a talented songwriter with recent cuts by Nora Jones, Carrie Underwood, Jason Aldean and Kelly Pickler. She writes for Wrensong music publishing and is currently writing for her next recording project. Look for Ashley this summer as she joins Jewel on her July west coast tour dates. Satisfied can be heard at:
http://www.ilike.com/artist/Ashley+Monroe+Music
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 20 May 2009 17:18 (sixteen years ago)
Chris Brown considers going country:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/20090520/en_top_eo/124879
Though come to think of it, before all that uh other stuff happened, weren't there already rumors to the effect that he might be on the next Tim McGraw album?
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 20 May 2009 22:24 (sixteen years ago)
song for him to cover "(I Feel Just Like George Jones When He Was a) Heel to Tammy" by Curtiss A
― Is it me? am I the winner here? (james k polk), Wednesday, 20 May 2009 22:34 (sixteen years ago)
Singles Jukebox reviewers slam "Alright" by Darius Rucker (which most of them like much less than I do, though I really don't like all that much, either):
http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=656
― xhuxk, Thursday, 21 May 2009 03:51 (sixteen years ago)
This thread appears to have died again, but what the heck; here is Jon Caramanica in today's NYTimes:
Jessie James
Here is what Taylor Swift hath wrought: “Wanted,” the debut single by the Georgia-raised, Nashville-based Jessie James, is feisty shampoo-commercial pop save for three bars near the bridge, when a country guitar shows its hand. If Nashville can go pop, why can’t pop start out a little bit Nashville? That’s what the music of Ms. James, whose self-titled debut (on Mercury) is due in July, is asking. And while we’re mixing, why can’t it be hip-hop as well? “Cowboy,” written with Jamey Johnson and Randy Houser, has snappy snares and puckish fiddle. The clever “Blue Jeans,” which uses a beat drawn from Ms. James’s own step routine and tweaks Dem Franchise Boyz’ 2004 hit “White Tee,” is perhaps the first white-girl country-rap song. But Ms. James knows getting embraced by the home crowd would be nice too. To wit, the Twitter message she recently posted to the producer Mitch Allan, imploring him to “make a country version of Wanted!!! Country stations want it!” But can she go home again?
Sounds interesting (if a little cryptic) (as if I should talk), though I'm pretty sure the first white-girl country-rap song was actually "Chariot," on Gretchen Wilson's debut album a half decade ago.
Meanwhile, heard Rascal Flatts's "Summer Nights" on the radio today, and it sounded like not only the best thing I've ever heard from them, but probably also the most blatant early '80s Bryan Adams rip (riffwise -- "Cuts Like A Knife" I think -- but also possibly subject matter-wise) in '00s country yet. Vocal phrasing in the verses also sounded like Southern soul music, somehow. Not sure whether I'll change my opinion on subsequent hearings or not.
― xhuxk, Monday, 25 May 2009 00:38 (sixteen years ago)
To wit, the Twitter message she recently posted to the producer Mitch Allan, imploring him to “make a country version of Wanted!!! Country stations want it!” But can she go home again
It's hard to know which is more witless, the twitter or the fact it was actually a subject of any discussion in the Sunday Times.
― Gorge, Monday, 25 May 2009 02:32 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah, that was part of what I thought was cryptic, even more so since I have no idea what "Wanted" is*, and doubt most other Times readers would, either. (Also don't know what Jon means by "her own step routine" -- like, she does it in shows? Where?)
* -- If it's "Wanted Dead Or Alive" by Bon Jovi, which is the only song that came to mind, there have already been a couple country versions this decade, by Montgomery Gentry and by Chris Cagle.
― xhuxk, Monday, 25 May 2009 19:10 (sixteen years ago)
man, i know it's lol-alt-country and all, to the extent it's country at all, but scott miller's new album is his best thing since his first solo record. he started his own label now, f.a.y. (fuck all y'all). anyway, it's good. dude is sadly neglected imo.
― would you ask tom petty that? (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 05:23 (sixteen years ago)
("i'm right here my love," his duet with patty griffin, is one of my songs of the year so far.)
― would you ask tom petty that? (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 05:25 (sixteen years ago)
I tried listening to that new Scott Miller album, and just couldn't get past the dry bland stodge of it; didn't get very far. Interview in Paste with he and his wife made them seem like interesting people, though, so I wish I liked their music more. Has anybody from Nashville covered their songs?
Singles-Jukeboxsters on Reba's new single "Strange". Most of them (including me) like it, but I get cranky about her in the comments section anyway:
http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=694
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 19:57 (sixteen years ago)
Presumably the "Wanted" that Jessie James wants a country version of is her own song "Wanted" - so she probably just wants a more country mix to be pushed to country radio.
Presume that Caramanica's Taylor ref isn't meant to say that Jessie sounds like Taylor - she isn't close; much closer to Faith or someone like that going pop, as Faith has done innumerable times (and it it's got a tinge of teenpop, it's more like the old teenpop of someone like Rose Falcon) - but rather just that, like the cuts on Fearless, the song isn't particularly trying hard to hit the country signifiers. But it doesn't sound far outside of poppish country to me anyway, Deana Carter, Alecia Elliott (Chuck would identify the relevant c. 2000 country pop girls better than I could), with rock and soul inflections.
― Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:44 (sixteen years ago)
Somewhere, Hope Partlow is saying, "I could do that shit."
Wiki hagio:
In April 2007, Hope announced on her Myspace that she had teamed up with guitarist Ryan Wilson to form a new duo act, Hope & Ryan. The new Myspace profile featured a demo by the two, titled "Try." Just three months later, Hope announced through a Myspace announcement that while seeking a female vocalist and musician to join her and Ryan, they found Sara Rachele and have now decided to become a trio, called The Love Willows. Since then, Sara has left the group.
On April 24, 2008 The Love Willows announced on Myspace that they have officially signed to Decca Records/Universal Music Group. Their first full-length album, titled Hey! Hey!, is set to release May 28, 2009.
― Gorge, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:56 (sixteen years ago)
The Love Willows' MySpace says the album is coming out "Summer 2009." Songs on the MySpace seem simultaneously pale and shiny (don't know what I mean by those adjectives; weak power pop - OK, got to shut up with these oxymorons), but anyway a lot went into the songs compositionally; Hope's got a great, flexible voice, which comes across strongest when she heads towards brassy puttin'-on-the-ritz stylings, but mostly it isn't penetrating through all the popistry. Stuff could be growers, but I'm not betting the farm.
They were touring with the Veronicas and got kicked off. (Also, though they moved back to Nashville, and even though Hope would be a great country singer, they're not particularly country, unfortunately.)
― Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 23:42 (sixteen years ago)
I tried listening to that new Scott Miller album, and just couldn't get past the dry bland stodge of it yeah, i don't really hear that. (miller's a lot of things, but stodgy isn't one of them. v-roys used to get drunk onstage and do judas priest tunes.) anyway, a few of his albums on sugar hill were sorta tamer, but i think the new one has a nice live sound. i don't know of anyone doing his songs, except kelly hogan a while back did a nice version of "lie i believe."
― would you ask tom petty that? (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 23:59 (sixteen years ago)
Okay, I admit it -- I'm a brainfarting idiot. The dry bland stodge I heard was on Buddy Miller's new album with his wife Julie (who were also the interesting couple interviewed in Paste). Duh.) For penance, I will make a point of checking out Scott (even though I kinda hate Judas Priest.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 28 May 2009 00:32 (sixteen years ago)
buddy miller's a great sideman. i saw him and julie live once, opening for somebody, and they were pretty good. but i haven't heard the records.
― would you ask tom petty that? (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 28 May 2009 00:36 (sixteen years ago)
The first seven seconds of Rascal Flatts "Summer Nights" sounds like Eminem in demon mode. Then it turns into Kenny Loggins trying to sound like the Jackson 5. Real good.
― Frank Kogan, Thursday, 28 May 2009 00:48 (sixteen years ago)
On a six-week trip to SE Asia, so my Country moments may be few and far between. Or maybe not - first day in Bangkok I walked into a restaurant for lunch and they were playing "Islands in the Stream" (and then "Rhinestone Cowboy", John Denver, Neil Young). Also watched some kind of video countdown from my hotel in Phuket, of US/UK pop, and Taylor Swift's "Teardrops on My Guitar" was on there at #10 as "her new single".
― erasingclouds, Thursday, 28 May 2009 11:44 (sixteen years ago)
Keep us posted, erasingclouds. Tipsy, it's not nec. "lol alt-country" around here 100% of the time, only about 90, by my scientific calculations (or we here tend to think of it as good=indie, bad=alt, with some actual stylistic/attudinal/metabolic differences, though not that many). The following might possibly be good; thinking of old bios that claimed Dierks originally made a name in the grassroots for tours with his band and allegedly jammish-live Cross Canadian Ragweed, and the studio tracks where he gives his band augmented by some sessioneers maybe, room to flourish in between his solemn hunka pronouncements:
DIERKS BENTLEY RELEASESiTUNES EXCLUSIVE "LIVE FROMSOHO"
Bentley's Summer Smash "Sideways" Pushes Towards No. One NASHVILLE, TN - May 29, 2009 - Award winning country music singer/songwriterDierks Bentley will release an exclusive six song EP as part of iTunes' "LIVE FROM SOHO" series on June 2. The intimate performance wasrecorded at Apple's flagship Soho store in January. "LIVE FROM SOHO" Track Listing:1. Feel That Fire2. Sideways3. I Wanna Make You Close Your Eyes4. Life On The Run5. Trying To Stop Your Leaving6. Free And Easy (Down The Road I Go)Bentley and country superstar Taylor Swift remain the only two country artists to participatein the program, which has also featured GRAMMY winning artists such as Adele, Kings of Leon and Linkin Park.The second single "Sideways" from Bentley's No. one debut album FEEL THAT FIRE continues toplow its way towards the No. one spot at country radio, landing at No. five this week. Fans can catch Bentley perform at LP Field during CMA Music Fest on June 11 and on the CMT Music Awards on June 16. Forcomplete list of upcoming appearances and tour dates, visit www.dierks.com.
― dow, Friday, 29 May 2009 19:22 (sixteen years ago)
One of my earliest Ashley posts; ref to Black Sage at beginning meant to favorably contrast this very indie, prob part-time band with ability of Music Row pros to keep the thing moving, sev subsequent posts mention frustration with the production and maybe mis-guidance re material, though promo no longer extant, me not know how many songs had co-writers thrust upon her, ect, so maybe any flaws are all her fault but I really doubt they gave a 19-year old female newbie that much room (would rather have the best tracks put with brand new ones than have the version I heard finally issued in all its fardled glory, but glory there be on it)(the terms "waif" "ghostown" and "stalker," meaning her, also apply, but I seem to have applied them only in a Rollung Teenpop post referring to this post)Site New Answers Search Boards ILE ILM New Answers New Question New Questions New Poll Blog View Register Login Rolling Country 2006 Thread Message BookmarkedNot all messages are displayed: show all messages (2097 of them)Okay, Ashley: funny how Black Sage, those lovable locals, pick up the tempo, while the Nashville tracks don't know how to sustain initial interest--so many ballads, so much time. The neediness sounds convincing enough. Reading the bio after listening, re what "she still sees as an idyllic life," before her father suddenly died when she was 11 ("often the age of puberty for today's youth", says Dr Joyce Brothers), and how her family went "into freefall" after that, and "with few friends among often callous classmates," how she could look so hungrily at taken-for-granted, supposedly sweet deals of ungrateful married women. And covering Kasey Chambers' "Pony," with come-hither-when-I'm-legal drawlpretty much to the tune of Peggy Lee's "Fever"), before stalking the guy (who has a grown woman, way ahead of her)to verses that sound like Neil's "Old Man," before reaching out, falling short, trailing with a few more notes anyway, in "Satisfied."(But in between she's still sounding young and damaged, she's been "Used, passed around")Then she does find a guy! Who's as little ol' as she is, and "That's Why We Call Each Other Baby," goo-goo--but he's--Dwight Yoakam, old, bald, and a dirt sandwich (this last according to Sharon Stone). Oh man. Lucinda's "It's Over" is faster, but needs some false stops or something to go with it's thing about she can't let go. Not enough titles provided so far, but there's one that is faster and works like that should: a Terri Clark-type blowing up her self-image of poor poor pitiful me like Harry Smith's headlines, til it's lying in the street, underneath a white sheet (do a video of that). And she's in the back of "Hank's Cadillac," making him drink his coffee black, cos you just gotta make that next show, be fair to the folks, but it's not working, she's clutching his little skinny carcass to her bosom, and--oh god,maybe this thing will brainwash me, but right now it's dropping most of these High Concepts. At least "Hank's Cadillac" has some narrative. The one that sounds like it's intended to be the followup to "Satisfied" makes the usual sargasso seizure irrelevent, cos (as with "Satisfied") the chorus sounds so nice, I don't need to go anywhere else.― don, Friday, 7 April 2006 21:58 (3 years ago)
― dow, Friday, 29 May 2009 20:35 (sixteen years ago)
And yeah, like Frank said (and I prev said, in 08 or 07 Nashville Scene ballot comments, if 07, on thefreelancementalists.blogspot.com, if 08, beginning of this thread) she's got stuff on her publisher's myspace and maybe elsewhere, and that Raconteurs track featuring her and Ricky Skaggs is pretty sweet too. Think I liked The Love Willows tracks they posted better than Frank does, but been a while since I listened. Theirs is another album been a longgg time coming. Why did they get kicked off the Veronicas tour?!
― dow, Friday, 29 May 2009 20:43 (sixteen years ago)
Ryan, posting on the Love Willows' MySpace blog:
as you’ve probably heard by now, the veronicas have indeed kicked us off the rest of the spring/summer tour. there were a few myspace bulletin postings from hope and from the veronicas on friday, after we received the final word from our management that we were removed from the tour. the bulletins caused quite a bit of stir on the myspace. the veronicas stated in a bulletin, "we didn't kick them off the tour, we were never even made aware they were ever 'promised' the entire 3 months!!" well, whether they were aware or not, we had contracts with the venues, as well as billing on the venue's websites and promotional flyers. from my understanding, the headlining band has the final word on who is, or who is not, on the tour. the fact that we share the same booking agency should further my point. would our booking agents remove us? we were very much in the dark as to why we were dropped from the tour. maybe the veronicas thought our sound was a little too pop? or maybe because we didn't wear all black? or that we actually had a stage show and took the time to create stage props? or that we had, new ('09) merchandise? we're still yet to get a clear cut reason, answer, or explanation, but by reading through some of the myspace comments and doing a little 'googling' of my own, i found out for myself that they have replaced us with a band called carney. oddly enough, that's lisa's boyfriend's band ;)! is that what we do now?! does that sound like coincidence or a decision made by the veronicas? you tell me. i find all of this very disrespectful and upsetting. we had such a blast on the last two weeks, we were really looking forward to the two months of touring, seeing you guys, and making new fans. we actually had quite a few other engagements in and around these dates that were supposed to coincide with each other, which we'll now have to cancel. we also turned down other tour opportunities to be on the veronicas' tour, which we can't get back, because those spots have already been filled. hopefully we can make up for it and catch you guys soon!
-ryan/tlw
― Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 03:24 (sixteen years ago)
Don't think anyone here has talked about Tim Wilson. For some reason, when I was looking for a stream of Merle Haggard's "Wishing All These Old Things Were New" I got a link to Wilson's "But I Could Be Wrong," which has nothing to do with Haggard other than that they're both country and both purvey attitudes, Haggard's attitudes being a million times more nuanced but not altogether different. Wilson's a country music comedian, and the song from start to finish repeats "I'm tired of ______'s ass" doing something Wilson doesn't like, the blank filled in successively with the names of celeb after celeb that Wilson calculates the country audience will feel alienated from. I find it offensive, naturally enough, but I also find it more powerful than you'd think from my description, the maniacally dogged repetitiveness (both music and lyrics) gathering force as the song goes on, the lyrics edging a bit towards more all-purpose destructiveness. Is from 2007, but I thought I'd link it anyway.
― Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 03:41 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah, he's a cunning one, saw some amazingly messed-up video of his the other day, gotta see it again before trying to describe. For those who might be curious about Hope Partlow's backstory here's my Love Willows preview from an earlier tour:The Love Willows are Ryan Wilson and Hope Partlow, who scored her first music biz deal in 2002, when she was fourteen. This Virgin Records contract was cancelled two months after her industriously engaging debut album, "Who We Are", finally emerged in 2005. The Love Willows' "Hey! Hey!" set is still pending, but their "Falling Faster" single, posted excerpts and videos further nurture Partlow's ever-budding saga, with tight, bright, empathetically anxious, classic-pop/new wave beauty. The recording duo built a full-band sound, and now tour with three more players.
― dow, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 02:59 (sixteen years ago)
And here's the Veronicas, from just a few weeks ago, but already sans Love Willows, so I'll punish them by reduction to an excerpt:...Of course they must quest, must pay youth's dewy dues. "Right now, nothing makes sense but you/I feel so untouched, right now." But the Veronicas remain a double vision of love.
― dow, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:06 (sixteen years ago)
"Falling Faster" sounded great. The rest of the promo on Amazon, up and down. Halfway between Damone and Tsar, only party dress girly. Only fragments posted, some of it worked, some of it didn't. Nothing to do with country. Sounded like it was mixed by one of the Lord-Alges or someone trying to be a Lord-Alge, which is now really exhausted as a tone style. I wish I thought it would not sink without a trace, but my gut feeling is it will.
― Gorge, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 04:43 (sixteen years ago)
I need to check that out; pretty much lost track of Hope Partlow after her debut LP four years ago (especially "Crazy Summer Nights," which made my Top 10 singles list despite not being an actual single.)
Liking Brooks & Dunn's "Indian Summer" on the radio this week, maybe even more than "Cowgirls Don't Cry," though I may like it less when I decipher the lyrics' plot, which right now makes me think of Friday Night Lights (the excellent third season of which I just finished Netflixing) mainly by mentioning football. The cornball part about "the wonder/The hunger/And the sound of distant thunder” reminds me of either early '80s Bob Seger or early '90s Garth Brooks or both, and may well be more meaningless than either. And the idea of a song called "Indian Summer" being released as a single in June rather than mid-autumn (which to B&D's credit is apparently when the lyrics take place) makes me think somebody at the label is either stupid or thinks the audience is. But it still sounds good.
My Limbaugh Republican-turned-Ron Paul Libertarian older brother actually mass-emailed me a link (last Christmas, I think) to that Al Wilson video that Frank linked to above. So I think I put it in the mental category "spam from family members" rather than "music" then, and the laugh track may have kept me from listening to the entire thing at the time. But Frank is right about it having some power to it.
Picked up a few really good old country LPs for $2 each at a junk store in Giddings TX over the weekend (more than I usually spend, but hey I talked them down from $4 each!): Tom T Hall's 1969 Homecoming and 1973 For The People In The Last Hard Town, which had way more great songs I'd never heard greatest-hits-anthologized before than I expected, including a beautifully gloomy minor-key attempt at Simon & Garfunkel "Scarborough Fair" type Brit-folk ("Strawberry Farms") and a tragic-comedic talking blues about moving to the suburbs complete with Dylan-style dream scence ("Subdivision Blues"). Also the only country song I've ever heard with New Zealand in its title, and a touring lament called "Last Hard Town" that's almost like Tom T's version of CCR's "Lodi", and the only song I've ever heard sung to a seeing eye dog, and a great cheating song called "Margie's At the Lincoln Park Inn." Also picked up a matched pair of late '80s soul-country albums by T. Graham Brown (I Tell It Like It Used To Be) and Billy Joe Royal (The Royal Treatment), the latter of which opens Side Two with a real good duet with Donna Fargo on Bobby Blue Bland's "Members Only," one of my favorite Chitlin Circuit Southern soul hits of the early '80s. Wonder how many other country guys have covered such sungs in recent decades -- always seems like a good idea to me; also cool when the reverse crossover happens.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:39 (sixteen years ago)
I'll have to look for those. I really like his book of memoirs/anecdotes, The Storyteller's Nashville, and his novel, Spring Hill, Tennessee, about when the Saturn plant came to town.
― dow, Thursday, 4 June 2009 06:34 (sixteen years ago)
A country-punk Warped Tour?:
http://www.metalinsider.net/touring/mayhem-fest-warped-tour-founder-sets-sights-on-country
― xhuxk, Thursday, 4 June 2009 20:15 (sixteen years ago)
I'd pay not to see that.
― Gorge, Thursday, 4 June 2009 20:20 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah, it sounds awful. This is the kicker, obviously: I worked on Down From The Mountain: Oh Brother, the soundtrack and I did a tour around that. I met all these bluegrass people who were basically punkers from the appellations (sic).
Unless he means the Woodbox Gang. Or Th' Legendary Shack Shakers. Neither of whom play bluegrass. But usually when people compare amateur bluegrass bands to punks, I start heading in the other direction.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 4 June 2009 21:12 (sixteen years ago)
Guys like this would have called the family polka bands in the Lehigh Valley 'punkers' because they were shaky, from the stix and had teenagers in them alongside the parents.
― Gorge, Thursday, 4 June 2009 21:42 (sixteen years ago)
New Montgomery Gentry quasi-best-of (incl one new and four previously limited-availabilty tracks) released exclusively via Cracker Barrel this week; entered high in Billboard 200 is how I found out. Haven't heard it. Not Cracker Barrel's first country exclusive, but probably their highest charting:
http://shop.crackerbarrel.com/online/shopping/Product.asp?cat_id=89&sku=311055
― xhuxk, Friday, 5 June 2009 23:37 (sixteen years ago)
Looks like it's got their Bon Jovi and ZZ Top covers (from a Professional Bullriding comp and ZZ tribute comp respectively), the latter of which I'd wanted to put on this playlist of hard-rocking '00s country songs I made this week for Rhapsody, but MG's "Just Got Paid" isn't available there. (I'm now doing one of these playlists for them a week, fwiw; with this one, I limited myself to one song per artist):
http://blog.rhapsody.com/2009/06/country-musics-heaviest-songs-of-the-00s.html
― xhuxk, Friday, 5 June 2009 23:58 (sixteen years ago)
Went to the enormous Chatuchak Weekend Market in Bangkok. There's a "Country and Bluegrass" booth, with two guys in full Western attire out front playing banjo along to a how-to-play-banjo instruction tape. They played "Cripple Creek" and then "Take Me Home Country Roads" (which I heard three times in a few days in Bangkok - once the original version and once an instrumental using what I took to be traditional Thai instruments, some kind of xylophone type thing and percussion). Also selling blue jeans, boots, and bootleg country CDs (Bill Monroe, Chet Atkins, and more recent male superstars - Alan, George, Randy, Brad). Otherwise few 'country moments' lately, especially as I moved away from Bangkok. Mostly hearing Thai pop and Muzak versions of random US soft-rock ballads. Lots of Kanye too, he seemed ubiquitous, in Bangkok especially.
― erasingclouds, Saturday, 6 June 2009 05:23 (sixteen years ago)
xpost
Song I liked the most on that list was Brooks & Dunn's "You Can't Take the Honky Tonk Out of the Girl." A great rollicking tone to it, like something that would have come out of a mid-west band in the late Seventies/early Eighties and made it to regional radio. Tracy Byrd's cover of "La Grange," however, eats it. Perfect illustration of 'country' touches as glue-ons for classic rock style that doesn't need it -- adding a pointless fiddle in this case. Another way of looking at is the sticking of sequins on a black leather jacket, or the repainting of it pink or white, to make it cute.
Jason Aldean's "She's Country," the same way. He so bad wants to do Bad Company, he should just quit the shitting around and do Paul Roger/Simon Kirke/Boz/Mick, and just do it, hang the tinkling banjo in the intro and middle-eight and understand that putting the fiddle in the mix occasionally behind the guitar riff is pointless. What? It won't be a good song if the banjo isn't in it? Same with the Carrie Underwood's blues shouter, "Last Name." There's the plinky-plink banjo and the fiddles mixed behind the guitar riff. It's a trite formula and the lines sound the same like some hack puts them on all the records: "Call the 'Deliverance' plinky-plink banjo guy and the fiddle filler girl, the song's done and we need him to add some stuff.
― Gorge, Saturday, 6 June 2009 15:55 (sixteen years ago)
Here's the vid for "Falling Faster."
My favorite Hope Partlow song is "Everywhere But Here." I don't see how she eventually fails to prosper, given her great voice, though that doesn't mean she'll ever be a pop star. I'd be curious what might happen if she ever tried jazz, given that her voice is flexible enough for it but she's nonetheless got a distinctive timbre that won't get lost in jazz mannerisms.
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 8 June 2009 15:12 (sixteen years ago)
xp Agree that "You Can't Take The Honky Tonk Out Of The Girl" works way better as a rock song, and song in general, than "She's Country" or "Last Name" or lots of other songs on the playlist, at least in part by not seeming to try as hard -- The Brooks & Dunn song, basically a Stones rip obviously, is actually (along with "Kerosene" and "All Summer Long" and "High Cost Of Living") one of the least "heavy"-sounding songs on the list, which probably helps. (Almost put B&D's "Only In America" instead, but figured the Stones ultimately seem heavier than John Cougar in most cases. Also realized later that I should have included a Road Hammers song, and maybe something off Hank Jr's Almeria Club or I'm One Of You, though I'm not sure which track would have fit best. Don't doubt I missed some other things, too. Also limited myself mainly to more mainstream Nashville stuff, which discounted bands like the Electric Boogie Dawgz and Mighty Jeremiahs, assuming Rhapsody even carries their stuff; the Kentucky Headhunters' '00s albums, it turns out, aren't availble there. Also stretched the truth at least a little in the intro graph, when I called the '00s by far country's heaviest-rocking decade ever -- truth is, a lot of music that came out in the '70s and maybe '80s that would probably be classified as country if it came out now -- Stairway To Hell rule in other words -- rocked a lot harder and louder and heavier than anybody on that list. Thing is, that stuff wasn't played regularly on country music stations, and didn't make the country charts, then. So it's not so much the music that's changed as the definition. But that should probably be obvious.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 8 June 2009 16:05 (sixteen years ago)
Which raises another question which I have no answer to myself: If someone were to put together a country equivalent of Stairway To Hell (as in 500 Greatest Country Albums In The Universe) now, how much sense would it make to include LPs by, say, the Eagles, Lynyrd Skynyrd, ZZ Top, Bad Company, Bob Seger, John Cougar, Tom Petty, Bryan Adams Cinderella, and Bon Jovi, since those are clearly the roots of so much country of the past decade?
Watching CMT for less than an hour in a hotel room Sunday morning, I saw at least three commercials for an upcoming awards show that listed seven acts set to perform on it -- one of whom was Def Leppard, presumably along with Taylor Swift, but the commercial didn't stipulate that; just listed them alphabetically along with the other half-dozen, like there was nothing weird about it at all. Among the performers also said to be scheduled to be appear on the show (presumably as a presenter) was Ted Nugent.
Didn't see many vids that told me anything I didn't know, but there was one one for this young lady named Megan Mullins who sings kinda like Tiffany; pretty sure her song isn't yet on the country chart:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxyuQj7dRZU
― xhuxk, Monday, 8 June 2009 18:29 (sixteen years ago)
Also, driving back to Austin from the Piney Woods yesterday, I heard a (on a public radio station no less) a terrific song from an apparent gypsy band from Serbia I'd never heard of before called Kal. The one I heard had way more crazed fiddles (and hence would be less of a sore thumb on a rolling country thread) not to mention more gang shouts (hence would be less of a sore thumb on a rolling oi! thread) and Middle Eastern-like vocal wailing(hence whatever), but the song below that I found on youtube, also from their new album, is also good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clntM9qyISo
― xhuxk, Monday, 8 June 2009 18:46 (sixteen years ago)
Mexican jumping bean music from Serbia! They'd have an immediate audience out here.
― Gorge, Tuesday, 9 June 2009 17:45 (sixteen years ago)
anyone heard the new john anderson album, bigger hands? I'm curious to know what you think. I haven't heard it, I'm still traveling, but I pre-ordered it for when I get back (along with the new brad paisley and some other less-country ones)
― erasingclouds, Friday, 12 June 2009 14:47 (sixteen years ago)
Had no idea John Anderson had a new one; it's up on Rhapsody, though, so maybe I'll check it out there when I have time. Label is Country Crossing, presumably an indie, though I never heard of it before. Also looks like he does his own version of "Shuttin' Detroit Down." Most intriguing titles: "Hawaia in Hawaii" and "Cold Coffee And Hot Beer."
― xhuxk, Friday, 12 June 2009 16:45 (sixteen years ago)
i think the story behind his new album is that he's reuniting with the producer of "Seminole Wind", his last really successful album.
― erasingclouds, Saturday, 13 June 2009 14:04 (sixteen years ago)
So after finally checking out the Love Willows' "Falling Faster" on youtube last night and liking it, I'm in a thrift store today in Austin and I heard it again, playing over the radio -- what seemed like a pop station. Strange....has it hit any actual charts yet? Or is just another weird Austin thing? It's not like they're a local band here...
― xhuxk, Saturday, 13 June 2009 22:17 (sixteen years ago)
So the "Hot Shot Debut" on Billboard's Country Songs Chart this week, for some reason I don't know, is "Eight Second Ride" by Jake Owen, which enters the chart at #57 despite being almost exactly three years old. Here's what I wrote about it on Rolling Country 2006, in July of that year:
eight second ride", very hard-rocking biker country (with one guitar part that *might* be deserve to be called psychedelic), and a title that may or may not beat motley crue's premature ejaculation in "ten seconds to love" by two whole seconds, i'm not sure yet. also jake seems to be bragging about how big the rims on his truck are, or maybe that was just his tires; there's a difference, right? but also maybe the most blatant making-of-love in a major label country tune since a different song about riding (cowboys), by big n' rich.
There's something "Half Breed"/"Indian Outlaw" about the guitar too. But what I missed the first time is the line that Jake says at 2:29 of 3:03 (see lyrics-equipped clip below), which if my ears are right, is not "spitting my dip inside," and may well be the most obscene and explicit line in any song ever to make the country chart. Unless it isn't:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9ev93nHuJs
― xhuxk, Sunday, 14 June 2009 22:40 (sixteen years ago)
Heard a few songs in the nightly countdown on the commercial country station here last night, and thought "Guinevere" by the Eli Young Band (whoever that is) and "Boots On" by Randy Houser sounded good.
Paid $1 over the weekend for a used Austin Public Library copy of Rank and File's 1984 Long Gone Dead, and am really surprised by how bland and wussified it sounds, especially with Stan Lynch from Petty's Heartbreakers on drums. It's not just that their alleged cowpunk here has no punk in it to speak of; it also doesn't seem to have much country, though once in a while (in "Hot Wind" and "John Brown" say) Chip Kinman gets off some semblance of of a guitar line reminiscent of desert scenes in western movies. I'm not sure which Kinman brother has the high voice and which has the low one, but the former sounds like a real wall-flowery blushing-violet woman to me, and the latter an even dryer and deader than usual Johnny Cash wannabee; amazingly, though I could live without them both, I prefer the latter. What's weird is that I actually remember kind of liking Rank and File's '82 debut Sundown when I had a copy in the '80s; either I really overrated it back then or they really took a nosedive with their followup. Christgau, bizarrely, gives both albums A-'s. But then, he wound up liking alt-country more than me too, so who knows. And I've actually been pleasantly surprised by the copies of Jason and the Scorchers' Fervor and the Long Ryders' State Of Our Union I've picked up cheap in the last couple years, so it's not like I have any bone to pick with '80s cowpunk as a style.
Most pleasant proto-cowpunk (post-pub-rock) purchase this week was Dave Edmunds' '78 Tracks On Wax 4, which is way better, with way harder rocking rockabilly, than I'd remembered -- especially the super fast "Reader's Wives," which seems to concern either prostitutes or strippers or just slutty women in general, though I have no idea what the title itself means. Always liked "Trouble Boys" (about being afraid to mess with the big bad guys in town, then finding a pal who's willing to), but never realized before that the LP had so many good songs. Ends with a tougher version of "Heart In The City" than the one on Pure Pop For Now People.
Tracks On Wax 4 finished #16 in Pazz & Jop in 1978, fwiw, 13 places below Lowe. Long Gone Dead gratifyingly didn't place in '84, though Rank and File's debut had finished #22 in '82, so maybe Xgau was alone in thinking the second album stood up to the first. (Ira Robbins, in the New Trouser Press Record Guide from 1985, says it sounds fussier and retains "only a skimpy portion of the first album's evocative magnificence," not to mention only half the band that played on that one.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 15:56 (sixteen years ago)
"Spitting my dip" sounds about right. I took away from it that she's supposed to watch out fortin of spent chaw.
― Gorge, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 18:54 (sixteen years ago)
Okay, best I can tell, Edmunds's "Readers Wives" is apparently more about ogling centerfolds which maybe the porno readers imagine as their wives?) or pinups or whatever. As Ian Dury would say, Dave's got a razzle in his pocket. Songwriting credit for that one goes to N. Brown, which I'll take a wild uneducated guess is some old (jump?) blues guy; "Trouble Boys" is credited to one B. Murray (presumably not Bill), who also (along with R. Peters) wrote "Not A Woman, Not A Child," another of my favorites on the album. Other ones I like a lot are "Television" (about wanting to watch it even when it's back, written by N. Lowe), "A-1 On The Jukebox" ("...nowhere on the charts," sounds like Lowe but actually credited to D. Edmunds/W. Birch, the latter being Will Burch from the Records I assume), and "Heart Of (not 'in' as I mis-state above) The City" (N. Lowe-penned, but definitely D. Edmunds-guitared -- last track on the album, really raw take, and he really lets himself cut loose.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 21:21 (sixteen years ago)
(Damn, lots of typos in that post -- e.g., "wanting to watch it even when it's bad," I meant.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 21:28 (sixteen years ago)
Here's Taylor/Def Lep "Sugar" from Crossroads, which comes across more powerfully than the one they did on the CMT awards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRgP-C7XU-s
― Frank Kogan, Thursday, 18 June 2009 18:35 (sixteen years ago)
And here's T-Swizzle and T-Pizzle "Thug Story" on the CMT awards (but Viacom will make YouTube kill it any second now). Doesn't really get funny until the last 10 seconds, when T-Pizzle starts talking, and T-Swizzle keeps his AutoTune going.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAzcxUdlvlI
― Frank Kogan, Thursday, 18 June 2009 18:41 (sixteen years ago)
(Probably confused my T-Pizzles and T-Swizzles. Whatever.)
― Frank Kogan, Thursday, 18 June 2009 18:49 (sixteen years ago)
Regarding 2:29 in "8 Second Ride": Xhuxk's ears do not deceive him, though I assume that that part gets modified on radio.
― Frank Kogan, Thursday, 18 June 2009 18:55 (sixteen years ago)
"Here's Taylor/Def Lep "Sugar" from Crossroads, which comes across more powerfully than the one they did on the CMT awards."
Yep, it's better. Still lacking in the Dept. of Backbone and Thud. Also sounds like it's lost a step or two. Plus gratuitous fiddle player. That's how they would have largely rocked it at the bar in Wyomissing, though. Still not convinced Taylor Swift has any business delving in hard rock forms.
― Gorge, Thursday, 18 June 2009 19:17 (sixteen years ago)
XXXPost re Readers' Wives....
RW was a feature in a '70s Brit Porn mag - don't know which one - whose readers sent in pics of their wives in their negligee or less, hence....
― sonofstan, Thursday, 18 June 2009 21:56 (sixteen years ago)
The new #59 song on Billboard's country chart, "Jeep Jeep" by Krista Marie, sounds gimmicky in a maybe good way, and its guitar sounds like something new wave, and it may or may not be influenced by Missy Elliott saying beep beep who's got the key to her jeep:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7SdKsyWHhQ&feature=PlayList&p=F0E152DCB2256A00&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=48
Here is how I wish its words went instead:
Last night, I heard my mama singing a songOoh-We, Jirpy, Jirpy, Jeep, JeepWoke up this morning and my mama was goneOoh-We, Jirpy, Jirpy, Jeep, Jheep
In other news, Jon Caramanica reviewed a Toby Keith/ Trace Adkins show in the NY Times a couple days ago, and said the former covered "Stranglehold" by Ted Nugent and the latter did "Higher Ground" by Stevie Wonder. So naturally I searched youtube; found two renditions of the former, but none of the latter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yA3VMxiLHM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbANwO-6MlQ
― xhuxk, Thursday, 25 June 2009 04:36 (sixteen years ago)
A version of "Stranglehold" by someone who cannot carry it off in the least, despite his love of Ted Nugent and willingness to put him in the movies. It's a toss up over which is worse, this or Taylor Swift doing "Pour Some Sugar On Me."
Like the Krista Marie tune but I'll be damned if it's possible to logically explain why the country fiddle is even in that song a little.
― Gorge, Saturday, 27 June 2009 19:54 (sixteen years ago)
Well, she was an American Girl, raised on promises (Swift sings Petty)
― Frank Kogan, Friday, 3 July 2009 02:46 (sixteen years ago)
New Holly Williams album: country weepy goop, sophisticated-singer-songwriter-in-Paris goop, family confessional goop, more singer-songwriter goop. She's fine when she's in the first category - "He's Making A Fool Out Of You," "Keep The Change," "Let Her Go" - while the others tend towards the mediocre and goopy.
― Frank Kogan, Friday, 3 July 2009 03:54 (sixteen years ago)
My top country singles, first half of 2009:
1. Love And Theft "Runaway"2. Jamey Johnson "High Cost Of Living"3. Sarah Buxton "Space"4. Caitlin & Will "Even Now"5. Taylor Swift "You Belong With Me"6. Sarah Borges And The Broken Singles "Do It For Free"7. Taylor Swift "White Horse"8. Jack Ingram "Barefoot And Crazy (Double Dog Dare Ya Mix)"9. Brooks & Dunn f. Reba McEntire "Cowgirls Don't Cry"10. Rascal Flatts "Summer Nights"11. Randy Houser "Boots On"12. John Rich "Shuttin' Detroit Down"13. Jamie O'Neal "Like A Woman"14. Kenny Chesney "Out Last Night"15. Dierks Bentley "Sideways"16. Holly Williams "Keep The Change"17. Collin Raye "Mid-Life Chrysler"
Chuck's list is here, and Anthony's is here.
― Frank Kogan, Friday, 3 July 2009 04:13 (sixteen years ago)
Parsing down my Top 60 of Everything singles list and then some (and discounting Southern Soul songs though maybe I should actually include them here), here's what I get countrywise for an '09 Top 30 so far. (Top of the list looks kinda similar to Frank's):
1. Jamey Johnson – “High Cost Of Living”2. Love and Theft – “Runaway”3. Rascal Flatts – “Summer Nights”4. John Rich – “Shuttin’ Detroit Down”5. Sarah Buxton – “Space”6. Caitlin & Will – “Even Now”7. Taylor Swift – “You Belong With Me”8. The Love Willows – “Falling Faster”9. The Flatlanders – “Homeland Refugee”10. Krista Marie – “Jeep Jeep”
11. Trace Adkins – “I Can’t Outrun You”12. Brooks & Dunn – “Cowgirls Don’t Cry”13. Jessica Harp – “Boy Like Me”14. Kenny Chesney – “Out Last Night”15. Billy Currington – “People Are Crazy”16. Brooks & Dunn – “Indian Summer”17. Montgomery Gentry – “One In Every Crowd”18. Megan Munroe - “Moonshine”19. Sarah Borges And The Broken Singles – “Do It For Free”20. Eli Young Band – “Guinevere”
21. Lady Antebellum – “I Run To You”22. Kid Rock – “Blue Jeans And A Rosary”23. Trace Adkins – “Marry For Money”24. Collin Raye – “Midlife Chrysler”25. Pat Green – “What I’m For”26. Jason Aldean – “She’s Country”27. Jake Owen – “Eight Second Ride”28. Hank Williams Jr. – “Red, White and Pink Slip Blues”29. Jason Boland and the Stragglers – “Comal County Blues”30. Jamie O’Neal – “Like A Woman”
― xhuxk, Friday, 3 July 2009 04:26 (sixteen years ago)
But if I were to count Southern Soul songs as country (which they are, in a way), my country Top 10 so far would look like this instead:
1. Jamey Johnson – “High Cost Of Living”2. Love and Theft – “Runaway”3. Larry Shannon Hargrove – “I Need A Bailout”4. Rascal Flatts – “Summer Nights”5. John Rich – “Shuttin’ Detroit Down”6. Sarah Buxton – “Space”7. Mel Waiters – “Everything Is Going Up (But My Paycheck)”8. Caitlin & Will – “Even Now”9. Taylor Swift – “You Belong With Me”10. Floyd Taylor --- “Southern Soul Party”
― xhuxk, Friday, 3 July 2009 15:36 (sixteen years ago)
And here are my favorite country albums of '09's first half:
1. Collin Raye – Never Going Back (Time Life)2. Those Darlins – Those Darlins (Oh Wow Dang)3. Pat Green – What I’m For (BNA)4. Ashley Monroe – Satisfied (Sony)5. Megan Munroe – One More Broken String (Diamond)6. Eric Church – Carolina (Capitol)7. The Boxmasters – Modbilly (Vanguard)8. Blackberry Smoke – Little Piece Of Dixie (Big Karma)9. (Various) – The Man Of Somebody’s Dreams: A Tribute To The Songs Of Chris Gaffney (Yep Roc)10. Charlie Robison – Beautiful Day (Dualtone)11. The Flatlanders – Hills And Valleys (New West)12. Buckwheat Zydeco – Lay Your Burden Down (Alligator)13. Rodney Atkins -- It’s America (Curb)14. Sarah Borges And the Broken Singles – The Stars Are Out (Sugar Hill)15. Rufus Huff – Rufus Huff (Zoho Roots)
― xhuxk, Friday, 3 July 2009 15:43 (sixteen years ago)
Assuming anybody's still out there, has anybody heard these? (I haven't, yet; probably should.)
35 1 It's A Business Doing Pleasure With You, Tim McGraw B.Gallimore,T.McGraw,D.Smith (B.James,J.Moi,C.Kroeger ) Curb PROMO SINGLE | 35 38 NEW 1 American Ride, Toby Keith T.Keith (J.West,D.Pahanish ) Show Dog Nashville PROMO SINGLE | 38 57 NEW 1 Outside My Window, Sarah Buxton S.Buxton (S.Buxton,V.Shaw,M.J.Hudson,G.Burr ) Lyric Street PROMO SINGLE | 57 59 NEW 1 American Saturday Night, Brad Paisley F.Rogers (B.Paisley,A.Gorley,K.Lovelace ) Arista Nashville DIGITAL | 59
Best song from Montgomery Gentry's '08 album (or at least the song I liked more when the album came out), "Long Line Of Losers," is also now on Billboard's country song chart, fwiw.
Also, Singles Jukebox reviews of Love & Theft:
http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=928
and Pat Green:
http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=959
― xhuxk, Thursday, 9 July 2009 16:19 (sixteen years ago)
I've heard "American Saturday Night." It's melting pot ode to how a good time in America is made up of stuff from other countries-- French kisses, Italian Ices, the Beatles, togas, imported beer.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 9 July 2009 21:35 (sixteen years ago)
Man, this thread done died. Ah well. Anyhow, via email:
July 17, 2009
MERCURY RECORDS NASHVILLE ANNOUNCES THE RELEASE OF NEW MUSICFROM AWARD-WINNING SINGER/SONGWRITER JAMEY JOHNSON
Nashville, TN - The debut single from Jamey Johnson's forthcoming album is entitled "My Way To You." The song, co-written by Johnson and Charlie Midnight, will be available to radio stations across the country TODAY at 1:00PM/CT via PLAY MPE.
On August 3, "My Way To You" will be available as a FREE download at www.jameyjohnson.com<http://www.jameyjohnson.com/>. On August 11, the digital e-single will be available for download at iTunes and all other digital partners.
The follow-up album to Johnson's critically acclaimed That Lonesome Song will hit stores this fall and will also be released on vinyl. "Man, that's how I listen to music. It's my favorite, number-one preference at home, to go put a vinyl record on my great grandmother's old record player. Which reminds me, I need to get somebody to do some maintenance on it. It needs a new needle."
― xhuxk, Saturday, 18 July 2009 00:08 (sixteen years ago)
Also, fwiw, thoughts on the current Toby Keith single, first written as Jukebox comments:
Ha ha, new Toby Keith single “American Ride,” now there’s a song that picks some fights and draws a line in the sand — anti-immigration horseshit (tidal wave comin’ in from the Mexican border not to mention thugs arrested by Customs with aerosol cans though maybe that’s just anti-graffiti-art I’m not sure), Christianist horseshit (people getting arrested for singing Christmas carols), sexist horseshit (mom getting her rocks off watching Desperate Housewives and spoiled kids watching youtube learning how to be mean girls ’cause that’s what it takes to get along in the world while Dad works his ass off for the good life), rockist horeshit (beauty queens with plastic surgery becoming pop stars without being able to sing a note), you name it. But also a chorus that seems to accept global warming (or the ozone layer burning up as summers get warmer anyway), at least as a metaphor for the country turning to shit (or “fit,” as in “fit’s gonna hit the shan.”) But Toby’s digging the ride anyway — “look ma, no hands!” And he kicks it as hard as anything he’s done (dude’s been covering “Stranglehold” in concert lately — guess he’s getting a little bored by his mellow period these past few years), and he turns the world going to hell into a biker rally. Won’t say if I love it or not.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 18 July 2009 00:11 (sixteen years ago)
Better song than his live do of "Stranglehold," stuff of which on YouTube, if it's representative, is just terrible. Seemed like more good but standard farm show arena Bad Company-ization, declining block riff, with the usual gratuitous glue on sequins of fiddle and jaw harp.
It's OK for country artists to now start acknowledging global warming because O'Reilly has said repeatedly that he believes it, although most of the rest of Fox still calls it a hoax. Hell, Mr. O even made Goldman Sachs public enemy number one this week, startling when one compares it with the usual parade of banking industry groupies and cheerleaders on the network, or on Dobbs over at CNN.
The formerly good ol' USA is now so obviously screwed up even the timid country artist and fans can see that they've a reality disconnect in their former dogma. No health care reform, no finance industry reform, more than half a million fired each month with the unemployment rate still going up and no significant difference in the slop of the climb from month to month, still not out of any wars, manufacturing industry and jobs shot and no will in national leadership to change it. Even if you've on a high school diploma and got lazy person's C's in business math, it's become to obvious we're living in the world's biggest and most powerful banana republic.
Who'll be the first mainstream country artist to make an entire album about it? N. Young included out because that's all he's done for decades. Not Brad Paisely, he's too much into guitar and conversational humorous story-telling, the poor man's Mark Twain without the social commentary of Huck Finn. Maybe Keith coulddo it. With his jagoff personality, it ought to sound suitably perverse in the ways of a partyin' man. No urban blues for Toby.
― Gorge, Saturday, 18 July 2009 20:24 (sixteen years ago)
OK, I'm sorry, I LOVE Jamey Johnson, but this:
"Man, that's how I listen to music. It's my favorite, number-one preference at home, to go put a vinyl record on my great grandmother's old record player. Which reminds me, I need to get somebody to do some maintenance on it. It needs a new needle."
reeks of PR horseshit. How hard is it to change a needle? I'd hardly call that 'maintenance,' especially if you listen to a lot of 'vinyl records'(ROFL). Court the Wilco crowd much?
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Saturday, 18 July 2009 20:45 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah, that pegs the bogometer well into the red category: 'Don't know what I'm spouting but my minder said it sure sounded good.'
― Gorge, Sunday, 19 July 2009 15:47 (sixteen years ago)
http://www.roughstock.com/audio/jamey-johnson-my-way-to-you
Sounds promising for the album.
― President Keyes, Monday, 20 July 2009 00:29 (sixteen years ago)
Phil Vassar, "Bobbi With An I" -- probably the best pro-transvestite country single (and video) since Moe and Joe's "Where's The Dress" 25 Years Ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ComwlHvHW1E
― xhuxk, Monday, 20 July 2009 01:16 (sixteen years ago)
So how do you all feel about Gloriana's Wild at Heart?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv3PJ1YSHFs
― Mordy, Monday, 20 July 2009 10:56 (sixteen years ago)
(I see there was a little chatter about it above.)
― Mordy, Monday, 20 July 2009 11:00 (sixteen years ago)
Pleasant, but never really gets going, even when it hits the 5 seconds of Bo Diddley beat at the 2/3 point.
― Gorge, Monday, 20 July 2009 14:34 (sixteen years ago)
There are actually hints of Diddley beat even before that point (or at least '80s robo-pop-style approximations thereof), but yeah, I'm still where I was a few months ago -- sounds to me like a less memorable version of Little Big Town's (or maybe Lady Antebellum's) boy-girl harmonies. I could imagine that group making a good record, though -- wonder what their other material sounds like.
― xhuxk, Monday, 20 July 2009 17:45 (sixteen years ago)
I thought that song was a new Little Big Town single until I read the Slate piece today.
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 00:48 (sixteen years ago)
What Slate piece? Can you link to it? (Went to the site, and couldn't find a single Music piece under the Arts pulldown, and then when I finally found "Music Box" on their site map, no recently published pieces seemed even remotely country.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 01:59 (sixteen years ago)
http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/browbeat/archive/2009/07/16/summer-camp-gloriana-s-wild-at-heart.aspx
― Mordy, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 03:29 (sixteen years ago)
Exhibit A is the video for the group's debut single, "Wild at Heart," an eruption of beatific singing, dancing, hand-clapping, and ear-to-ear grinning. "Wild at Heart" is a bubble-gum pop song of the sort rarely seen these days: unrelentingly perky without a hint of distancing irony. In the wised-up world of postmodern pop, Nashville is the last bastion of pure camp.
Gloriana's daffiness might be too much to take if the song weren't so damn good. But "Wild at Heart" is a perfect single, a song-length hook, or patchwork of hooks: the "We Will Rock You" drum machine beat, the "Jack and Diane" guitar strum, the "funky breakdown." -- Jody Rosen
This overstates it by, pardon the expression, about a country mile.
― Gorge, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 03:36 (sixteen years ago)
Gloriana is modeled on Fleetwood Mac—or modeled on Fleetwood Mac-inspired country acts like Little Big Town: two guys, two girls, lots of four-part harmonies. What Gloriana adds to this formula—in addition to gallons of mousse and pomade—is boundless, shameless pep.
Sorry, but Little Big Town have several songs far more peppy and shameless than this one.
In the wised-up world of postmodern pop, Nashville is the last bastion of pure camp.
I have no idea what that's supposed to mean.
The lyrics are also a pastiche—a sequence of clichés so complete that they transcend cliché and approach conceptual art.
Dude's been reading too many Lady Gaga interviews.
Wasn't aware Cheyene Kimball was in the group, though. (Never made it all the way through her album, but I do remember it existing at the time.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 03:41 (sixteen years ago)
xhuxk, recommend some good Little Big Town songs to me with more shameless pep? I love shameless pep and I don't really know LBT that well.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 03:47 (sixteen years ago)
"Boondocks," "Bones," "Mean Streak," "Welcome To The Family," "Fine Line," "Evangeline," "Novacaine," "Fury." (Well, those are some of my favorites, anyway. Thing is, that Gloriana song doesn't strike me as all that shameless or peppy in the first place -- just kinda average.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 04:05 (sixteen years ago)
Singles Jukebox roundtable reviews of current country singles by:
Brooks & Dunn
http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1048
Lady Antebellum
http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1041
and, uh, Ben Kweller
http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1031
― xhuxk, Thursday, 23 July 2009 21:14 (sixteen years ago)
Chuck, Little Big Town is amazing. Thanks so much for the recommendation. I really need to spend more time in this thread.
― Mordy, Friday, 24 July 2009 10:56 (sixteen years ago)
(that said, I'm not sure I buy that any of these songs are more "peppy" than the Gloriana song.)
― Mordy, Friday, 24 July 2009 12:04 (sixteen years ago)
Couple more Singles Jukebox reviews...
Lost Trailers
http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1072
Sarah Jarosz
http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1069
Upcoming alt-countrified albums I didn't make it all the way through and probably won't but didn't hate: Bottle Rockets, Delbert McLinton, the Pines, Rev. Horton Heat, James Hand, Chris Knight (old demos I guess), Guy Clark, Patty Loveless, Robert Earl Keen, Steve Azar. Of those, Keen and Azar seemed the most promising, probably; might get back to them.
Upcoming alt-countrified albums I sort of like so far (though I'm not sure how much): Drivin N Cryin, Tim Carrol (the latter a former member of Indiana punk rock greats the Gizmos now married to alt-country singer Elizabeth Cook -- how weird is that?)
Song I like a lot on an album which came out this year and has inspired basically no talk on this thread though it's honestly not a bad album: "Wild Rebel Rose" by Martina McBride (sort of her version of "Janie's Got a Gun" by Aerosmith, only better.)
Martina McBride song from three years ago I didn't know I liked until this year even though it hit Number Five on Billboard's country chart: "Anyway."
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 22:03 (sixteen years ago)
Btw, the Gloriana EP is solid throughout. All four songs are good, and "Wild at Heart" might actually be the weakest of the bunch.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 22:43 (sixteen years ago)
Was watching Appaloosa for the first time on HBO last night. Ed Harris doing a Boxmasters' gig over the closing credit, "You'll Never Leave My Heart" made me laugh. He really nailed the earnest lunkhead marshal stuck with the loose woman theme that was half the movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C-0X0eBV7o
― Gorge, Monday, 3 August 2009 20:21 (sixteen years ago)
Jon Caramanica on Nashville's post-Taylor Swift young blondes and brunettes in yesterday's NY Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/02/arts/music/02cara.html
And elsewhere in the same paper, he reports that the new Walmart-exclusive Sugarland DVD/CD features covers of songs by Beyonce', R.E.M. (twice), Pearl Jam, B-52s, and Kings of Leon. (I like Sugarland, so I'll try not to hold their taste against them):
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/02/arts/music/02play.html
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 04:23 (sixteen years ago)
See, here's the problem with trying to telegraph on a network TV media event which is essentially an advertising vehicle, the Sugarland thing. You present, in the New York Times, something that's not much of a glimpse of reality.
"Nightswimming" was ninety seconds of about nothing, if you want to draw attention to it as a REM cover. "Love Shack" has been on Youtube for awhile. Anyway, the biggest thing about "Nightswimming" was Nettles in an old lady's swim cap and the white bumbershoot shtick, which won't mean anything to anyone who hasn't already seen it.
The only mildly interesting part of the network performance was the rather obvious (if you know late-Sixties/early Seventies hard rock) of the instro backing from Grand Funk's "Footstompin' Music" during the segment when Nettles and Bush go into the audience in big plastic beachballs. Aside from the opening number, that was the only thing that rocked, which underplays their live show by a bit, I imagine. Guitar mix was set low and Nettles has that notch in her voice common to crying babies and cats in the kitchen when you're opening their cans of tuna. It's a frequency that gets right into the cerebellum -- evolution must have hard-coded it into mammalian ears -- and she has it in spades in her her vocal cords. So when she sings "Stay," even if you're, mentally, a wooden table, it gets a reaction. Not an insult, really, she was born with the power. Like Michael Phelps was born to beat the hell out of everyone in the swimming pool and erupt from the water in the primate's reflex dance of victory. It's all hardwired.
Y'know, Pete Frampton didn't get on network TV and "Frampton Comes Alive" became the mostest of the mostest in sales of all live classic rock albums. It's a shame a band so unashamedly as milchtoast, although in a somewhat different way, as Frampton can't aspire to the same thing even when their live record, which is a natural, is pitched right in the venue where the record execs think all classic rock fans shop. You can't go back in time and recreate an era, sadly.
Why the comparison to "Frampton Comes Alive"? Because Sugarland's live show is just as pandering as his was, kind of -- but not quite at the right time for the right audience as Frampton. Really, stuff was optimistic when "Frampton Comes Alive" was in its prime. Now, everyone with even a shred of commone sense knows this country is just a bad joke, one repeated too often and way past overstaying its welcome.
Anyway, Frampton looked gorgeous in the same way Nettles does and his shtick was the drawn out soppy tunes with talking box guitar. Sugarland's thing is not as drawn out soppy tunes with Nettles' voice as the eye-and-ear-popping guitar talk box stuff.
That's my theory. And enough with the chem-lights, already. Between the US military dropping them worldwide like candy on every TV show you see and Sugarland, desist. They're probably made by the same conglomerate that makes landmines and cluster bombs.
― Gorge, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 05:01 (sixteen years ago)
And strangely, I actually compared sometimes Nettles collaborator Jon Bon Jovi to Peter Frampton in Stairway To Hell -- what come around goes around.
Fwiw, I'd actually never given much thought before to the commercial decline of the live album in general. Presumably the late '70s -- when live LPs helped nationally break acts like Frampton, Seger, Cheap Trick, and REO -- was the form's peak, never to matched again; I guess a couple superstars like Springsteen and U2 have had major live releases since (Bruce with a box set), and there was that "unplugged" vogue for a while back in the '90s, I suppose. But unless I'm totally blanking out on obvious exceptions, the emergence of MTV and home video seemed to have put a damper on the live album concept. So now (in the wake of Garth?) they wind up real stop-gaps between studio albums, often exclusive to big box stores. Which means a band like Sugarland having its own Frampton Comes Alive is fairly impossible. And even when a concert-draw colossus like Kenny Chesney puts out a live album, as he did a couple years ago, nobody much notices.
In other news, there's this:
Jennifer Aniston is landing role after role! ... she's inked a deal to headline Goree Girls, the true story of an all-female country band in a Texas prison in the 1940s.
http://www.starmagazine.com/jennifer_aniston_goree_girls_prisoner/news/15919
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 22:35 (sixteen years ago)
The live album has become the cheapie pinch hit for oldy hard rock acts. Cf., Ted Nugent, Foghat*, Blue Oyster Cult, oddly -- also Peter Frampton, even ZZ Top, Lynyrd Skynyrd*, the Who, etc. In the prime years, it was an opp to get good material back in front of an audience for a second chance which also explains some of the impetus behind them tending to be doctored. Now, it's the opposite, an excuse to give long in the tooth fans a keepsake of the 'greatest hits' live.
― Gorge, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 22:55 (sixteen years ago)
Perhaps of interest: Chad Kroeger from Nickelback wrote Tim McGraw's new single 'It's a Business Doing Pleasure With You.' It sounds more like something Trace Adkins should have recorded.
― President Keyes, Saturday, 8 August 2009 22:44 (sixteen years ago)
Interesting. The lyrics are very brand-name-oriented, almost like a hip-hop song or something. Wonder of Kroeger wrote it for Nickelback and realized it wasn't humorless enough, or he's just looking for a lucrative side career, or what.
Some new tracks bubbling up the country chart that I hope to check out (besides the Strait, which I've heard -- a Spanish language cover of a ranchero standard. I like his current top ten "Living For The Night," too -- not far from the sort of music Alan Jackson was crooning on Like Red On A Rose.)
41 RE-ENTRY 2 I'm Alive, Kenny Chesney With Dave Matthews B.Cannon,K.Chesney (K.Chesney,D.Dillon,M.Tamburino ) BNA DIGITAL | 41
43 47 48 4 Radio Waves, Eli Young Band M.Wrucke (B.Sanders,M.Eli ) Republic DIGITAL | Universal South | 43
45 46 54 4 That Thang, Fast Ryde J.Stevens,J.Stevens,J.Harrison (J.Harrison,J.Stevens ) Republic Nashivlle DIGITAL
54 60 2 Skinny Dippin', Whitney Duncan M.Bright (W.Duncan,C.Tompkins ) Warner Bros. DIGITAL | WRN | 54 58 NEW 1 El Rey, George Strait G.Strait,T.Brown (J.A.Jimenez Sandoval ) MCA Nashville PROMO SINGLE | 58 60 NEW 1 Honky Tonk Stomp, Brooks & Dunn Featuring Billy Gibbons R.Dunn,T.McBride (R.Dunn,T.McBride,B.Pinson ) Arista Nashville PROMO SINGLE | 60
And speaking of Alan Jackson, "I Still Like Bologna" --one of the better tracks from Good Time, I always thought -- is now a country-chart-climbing single in its own right.
Like the new/imminent Miranda Lambert album less than I'd hoped (though lots of it is still really good), and the new Reba McEntire way more than I expected to, and the new Mac McAnally (on Toby's Show Dog label) more than either -- has a shot at my year end top 10, and as soul-country it's probably not that far from my still-'09-favorite Collin Raye.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 02:56 (sixteen years ago)
And, wow. Didn't expect this. Brooks And Done:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090810/ap_en_ot/us_music_brooks___dunn
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 03:34 (sixteen years ago)
Well, they're my age. Maybe they wanted to go back to college, take some philosophy courses, etc.
― Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 04:10 (sixteen years ago)
Idolator posted their link of B&D's end with a Youtube of "Neon Moon", my fave B&D song. If they are really through, where do they stand in the Country history canon.Any thoughts?
― jetfan, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 00:45 (sixteen years ago)
Wrong thread before. New George Strait album Twang. The First single "Living For The Night" is so classic. Any thoughts?
― Jacob Sanders, Friday, 14 August 2009 17:11 (sixteen years ago)
I like that Strait ballad, as I said a few posts up (and I'm usually not a huge fan of his, fwiw). Here's my review of the album for Rhapsody (scroll down):
http://www.rhapsody.com/george-strait/twang
And while I'm at it, my review of the new Reba:
http://www.rhapsody.com/reba-mcentire/keep-on-loving-you
And Steve Azar:
http://www.rhapsody.com/steve-azar/slide-on-over-here
― xhuxk, Friday, 14 August 2009 17:46 (sixteen years ago)
Great review Chuck. I've lurk on the rolling country threads of too long. Why don't you usually like George Strait?
― Jacob Sanders, Friday, 14 August 2009 18:13 (sixteen years ago)
Dierks Bentley has a new album soon to be released?
― Jacob Sanders, Friday, 14 August 2009 19:08 (sixteen years ago)
Chuck, I can't tell from your review... do you like the new Reba? Is it worth listening to?
― Mordy, Friday, 14 August 2009 19:21 (sixteen years ago)
Definitely worth hearing. Which I didn't expect.
And some of my reservations about George Strait (and Randy Travis too) are here:
http://blog.rhapsody.com/2008/08/george-strait-randy-travis-not-john-anderson-but-not-bad.html
― xhuxk, Friday, 14 August 2009 19:32 (sixteen years ago)
I think I get meaner about their bland goody-goodiness on a couple of the earlier Rolling Country threads, but I've softened to both guys since. (Rebought a copy of Does Fort Worth Ever Cross Your Mind for $1 last month. It's pretty great.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 14 August 2009 19:36 (sixteen years ago)
Strait does a cover of the ranchera song "El Rey" in Spanish on his new album. I hear it's getting some airplay on Spanish radio stations in Texas at least.
x-post Dierks released an album about 4 months ago.
― President Keyes, Friday, 14 August 2009 20:12 (sixteen years ago)
I actually really like Reba (mostly because of her television show which I thought was pretty charming guilty pleasure).
― Mordy, Friday, 14 August 2009 20:41 (sixteen years ago)
What I haven't really decided yet about the new album is how much she pulls off the more boogie-rock stuff. Part of me thinks she doesn't have the personality or vocal oomph for it. (She has oomph, but she might not have the right kind.) But I do like that it's there, and it took me by surprise. Definitely love "Maggie Creek Road," and it's cool that she covers Shelly Fairchild's "Eight Crazy Hours (In The Story Of Love)." The songs she puts over best tend to be the midlife crisis ones.
Still, I'm skeptical about her; always have been. More on what I think of her, in general, at the link below (which I've linked to before, but what the heck; also, I compare her to Strait and Travis):
― xhuxk, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:00 (sixteen years ago)
9513 piece on country/regional-Mexican crossover and George Strait's "El Rey":
http://www.the9513.com/george-strait-el-rey/
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 15:53 (sixteen years ago)
I've just been browsing through this thread, so apologies if it's been mentioned before: I like country music, but I'm just at the outset of being a country listener and I'd like a decent introduction to cover ground a little quicker. Have any of you got a suggested tracklist for a sort of 'all-purpose' intro to (contemporary) country music? Just a decent selection of various styles. I love Miranda Lambert and like the Ashley Monroe album (and I think Swift's "Fearless" might be one of the best albums of the decade, but I definitely want to check out more country-ish country than hers), but really I just want some good tracks to get me going.
― abcfsk, Saturday, 22 August 2009 08:55 (sixteen years ago)
I've been enjoying these songs. A Little More Country Than That-Easton CorbinThe Day We Changed The Rules-Christopher Michael JohnsonSeven Vern Gosdins Ago-Darren KozelskyGravity-Dean BrodyFeels Just Like A Love Song-Sara Evans
I believe these are all newish songs
― Jacob Sanders, Saturday, 22 August 2009 19:43 (sixteen years ago)
I think there was a similar request upthread that xhuxk and Frank Kogan (and others maybe) responded to.
As for tracks by female singers with a country-ish or more trad or whatever vibe I really like Sara Evans' "Real Fine Place to Start" and the rest of that album, Sugarland's "Already Gone," "Want To," & "Baby Girl." (Not all that trad, I guess.)
Some albums that have been popular around here over the years: Deanna Carter "Story of My Life", Gary Allan "Tough All Over", Jamey Johnson "That Lonesome Song", Brooks & Dunn "Red Dirt Road", Blake Shelton "Pure BS", the Toby Keith singles collection and of course both of Miranda Lambert's albums.
Other acclaimed albums: Lee Ann Womack "There's More Where That Came From," Josh Turner "Everything is Fine" Tricia Yearwood "Heaven, Heartache & the Power of Love."
Lots more good stuff that I can't remember now.
― President Keyes, Saturday, 22 August 2009 19:53 (sixteen years ago)
Like Little Big Town for instance.
― President Keyes, Saturday, 22 August 2009 19:55 (sixteen years ago)
Hey abcfsk - Welcome to the thread. What you're asking for, though, seems pretty wide-ranging. What you might consider, though, is tracking back through the ILM Rolling Country threads -- they go back five or six years, I think -- and skimming over the best-of-the-year lists that tend to be clustered toward the beginning (January/February) and end (November/ December) every year -- that should give you plenty of songs to start with, I'd think. But if there's something more specific you're looking for (or stuff you're liking or disliking), by all means say so...
― xhuxk, Saturday, 22 August 2009 20:45 (sixteen years ago)
Thanks guys! Just what I was looking for. Will go on a heavy listening binge now. The greatest part of getting into a new scene, when you realize there's quality all around you.
― abcfsk, Saturday, 22 August 2009 21:09 (sixteen years ago)
Kind of mortifying at first, all the directions you can choose, but then just delicious. I'm sure queries will pop up when I become attached to certain stuff.
― abcfsk, Saturday, 22 August 2009 21:10 (sixteen years ago)
Given that you seem so far to be gravitating toward mostly younger, female artists, here are some songs along those lines I've liked this year (well, the last couple on the list are less young, but still):
Sarah Buxton – “Space”Caitlin & Will – “Even Now”The Love Willows – “Falling Faster”Krista Marie – “Jeep Jeep”Jessica Harp – “Boy Like Me”Sarah Borges And The Broken Singles – “Do It For Free,” "I'll Show You How," "Yesterday's Love"Megan Munroe - “Moonshine,” "Leavin' Memphis"Miranda Lambert - "White Liar," "Only Prettier," "Me And Your Cigarettes," "The The Way The World Goes 'Round," "Time To Get A Gun"Those Darlins - "Red Light Love," "Hung Up On Me," "The Whole Damn Thing," "Snaggletooth Mama," "DUI Or Die"Martina McBride - "Wild Rebel Rose"Reba McEntire - "Maggie Creek Road"
― xhuxk, Saturday, 22 August 2009 21:43 (sixteen years ago)
Meanwhile, I am now several weeks if not months behind on keeping up on checking out potentially good new songs that enter the country chart. Maybe somebody should do it for me, and save me the work. Anyway, here are this week's entries -- possibly great, possibly not, most likely somewhere between:
50 1 Need You Now, Lady Antebellum P.Worley,Lady Antebellum (D.Haywood,C.Kelley,H.Scott,J.Kear ) Capitol Nashville DIGITAL | 50 56 NEW 1 My Way To You, Jamey Johnson The Kent Hardly Playboys (J.Johnson,C.Midnight ) Mercury DIGITAL | 56 57 NEW 1 Long After I'm Gone, Big Kenny B.Kenny,C.Stone (W.K.Alphin,M.Beeson,R.Supa ) Love Everybody DIGITAL | Bigger Picture | 57 58 NEW 1 Keep On Lovin' You, Steel Magnolia D.Huff (C.Stapleton,T.Willmon ) Big Machine DIGITAL | 58 59 NEW 1 It Did, Blaine Larsen J.Ritchey (M.Green,J.Collins ) Treehouse PROMO SINGLE | 59
― xhuxk, Sunday, 23 August 2009 18:29 (sixteen years ago)
So, top (which top isn't all that great) to bottom (which bottom really isn't all that bad), here's how I'd tentatively rank the county charting singles from recent weeks that I didn't listen to until binging on youtube (albeit mostly not actual "videos" per se') tonight:
--Jamey Johnson - "My Way To You" (though I gotta say, this is a total retread for him after his great last album, spooky spare production touches and all -- he's clearly got a niche now, knows where his bread is buttered, but he does his schtick well.)--Brooks & Dunn feat. Billy Gibbons - "Honky Tonky Stomp" (great guitar)--Brad Paisley - "American Saturday Night" (pretty darn good guitar + sound effects + good humor)-- Sarah Buxton - "Outside My Window" (sound effects + good humor)-- Whitney Duncan - "Skinny Dippin'" (uses the Billy Gibbons word "tush," which is presumably naked)-- Lady Antebellum - "Need You Now" (drunk dialing duet at 1 a.m.)-- Blaine Larsen "It Did" (gettin' hitched power ballad; will take a few more listens to really be able to tell how good or bleh it is. He often turns out to be less generic than he sounds at first.)-- Fast Ryde - "That Thang" (honky tonk badonkadonk hackwork, but not a Lauryn Hill cover)-- Kenny Chesney feat. Dave Matthews - "I'm Alive" (Dave adds variety, but is that a good thing?)-- Big Kenny - "Long After I'm Gone" (saw John Rich referred to as a "former member of Big & Rich" somewhwere; when did they break up, exactly?)-- Steel Magonola - "Keep On Lovin' You" (boy/girl duet, and the girl wails like Taylor Dayne just about, but the song ain't nothin' far as I can tell)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 04:33 (sixteen years ago)
I don't think Big & Rich have disbanded. They're playing in Atlantic City next month.
― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 11:30 (sixteen years ago)
--Brad Paisley - "American Saturday Night" (pretty darn good guitar + sound effects + good humor)
The Paisley album is probably my favorite country album of the year so far, and my favorite album of his. The move away from his variety-show shtick to a more thematic structure for the album works for me, and I like how the 'concept' of it ties together national 'hope' with personal. And his more "heart-felt", less smart-ass persona still has a decent amount of humor in it. Nice guitar-playing all over too.
― erasingclouds, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 13:23 (sixteen years ago)
I like the Paisley album too. Here's my favorite review, by Ben Ratliff in NYT:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/29/arts/music/29choice.html
The review's funny and sort of odd, but I like that it's just about the only review to:
1. focus on Paisley's cleverness rather than his funniness, and2. not mention Barack Obama.
The cleverness seems more operative than the funniness on this album. I can't remember if I laughed out loud at all, but like Ratliff, I'm amazed at the guy's ability to make songs out of anything. He should cover "Death May Be Your Santa Claus."
I also like that Ratliff, like Paisley, didn't mention Obama. All the other reviews find ways to connect verse 3 of "Welcome to the Future" to Obama. (I don't mean to insult anyone's review!) I'm sure Paisley has Obama and Election Day in mind when he thinks about his friend the football player and all the racial progress we've made, but that verse has a couple problems, even if it does make me cry.
For one thing, it's clumsy. Paisley wants to wake up Martin Luther instead of MLK. Maybe it's just that I'm Lutheran, but isn't the original Martin Luther still a well-known enough personality that this imagery seems incongruous to people? There's nothing in the 95 Theses about racial equality.
Also, the verse seems to participate in the fallacy that "all our racial problems are solved now that a black man is president." I mean, I might've cried on Election Day too, but I'm not sure writing this verse qualifies Paisley as a progressive, which was the claim of at least one review I saw. If anything, such a claim could play into the hands of the less-progressive elements of Paisley's audience. So maybe my problem is more with Paisley's press. Even so, he never specifically makes the claim that we're now living in "the future" because Obama got elected. But if he's NOT thinking of Obama, it's even more troubling, because that means he's just looking around at the country and seeing a panacea of racial justice. Is anyone else troubled by this song, maybe in a more articulate way?
― dr. phil, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 18:36 (sixteen years ago)
Though I guess I'm the only one claiming that "progress" has to = "panacea." It doesn't have to be all or nothing. We've definitely made racial progress, insofar as most black high school quarterbacks can date whomever they'd like, though I'm sure there are exceptions. Still troubled.
― dr. phil, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 18:42 (sixteen years ago)
What I like about that verse is mostly the way it comes as a surprise the first time you hear the song. I don't think it makes him politically progressive, but I think it's a cleverly written song, the way the awe at little things like 'now I can play a video game on my phone' is tied together with a sense of awe that there's a black president (and, later in the album, tied to his own awe about having kids, etc). I know what you're saying about the 'all our racial problems are solved' fallacy, but the tone of the song to me is more surprise. I like the uncertainty of the line "wherever we were going / well we're here". That sounds like stumbling into the future more than everything's perfect now. As far as critics relating that verse to Obama, I don't know, that's how I heard it right away (before reading that Paisley wrote it on Election Night after seeing how excited people were, and before seeing the music video where he has a black kid saying "when I grow up I want to be president" right before that verse). I definitely mentioned Obama in my review, right at the start, though noting that the song doesn't mention him or the election (http://www.popmatters.com/pm/review/108697-brad-paisley-american-saturday-night/). Part of what I like about the song is the way it evokes that election-night feeling of anticipation without getting too specific. But at the same time, how will this song come across in a few years, outside of that recent memory of election-night, is a good question.
― erasingclouds, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 20:41 (sixteen years ago)
The interesting thing for me about WTTF is that Paisley (being 36) must have been in high school in about the 1986-1990 years--which places this cross burning well after the height of the Civil Rights movement and at a point in time when "The New South" was already a major concept. At that point people were already speaking of overt racism as a thing of the past--nice to see an acknowledgment from a white southern artist that things weren't so clear cut.
And Paisley has been pushing the Obama election night thing in interviews. I've even heard them mention it on the radio when introducing the song.
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 21:49 (sixteen years ago)
The verse definitely confused me the first time I heard it -- seemed to sort of be about Obama, except the famous guy with a "dream" was MLK; I guess I figured Brad was implying Obama, but too chicken to get more specific (and right, "Martin Luther" just seemed like a ignorant mistake.) Still like the song, though; like how it runs against the current country grain by explicitly arguing that a changing world is a good, not bad, thing.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 22:49 (sixteen years ago)
I also like how the Future is musically represented by a synth riff that could have come off of an ELP song from 1971.
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 26 August 2009 00:44 (sixteen years ago)
Singles Jukebox review roundups of recent singles by:
Toby Keith
http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1196
Wilco (who were considered "alt-country" back in the old days, remember?)
http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1217
Heartland
http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1241
I think Matos and Miccio are probably right about that one Heartland riff being more "Jessie's Girl" than "Summer Of 69." If so, my bad I guess...
― xhuxk, Thursday, 27 August 2009 22:57 (sixteen years ago)
Of course "Welcome to the Future" isn't the first Paisley-related song about Obama:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lV1mIggoqE
― President Keyes, Saturday, 29 August 2009 16:48 (sixteen years ago)
Speaking of jokes, you really have to see "Blazing Saddles" with all the uses of the word 'nigger' in the dialog bleeped out on Country Music Television.
― Gorge, Saturday, 29 August 2009 18:04 (sixteen years ago)
Was watching the CMA arena fest last night and Miranda Lambert's version of The Faces' "Stay With Me" was the pits. Plus, about half the arrangement was left out. And her band of hacks -- two guitarists -- in now way got down like Ron Wood, who really isn't known for being much of a commanding presence, anyway. (Although the song is one in which the guitar is just about as important as Rod Stewart's vocal.)
And Taylor Swift was her usual self -- pop rock or Def Leppard-real lite for those who found "Hysteria" a really heavy sound.
Jason Aldean did his Bad Company imitation and there were a lot of girls in the front row. For such a cock rock style song, he is really the total square.
And I guess Darius Rucker is now officially the Cleavon-Little-in-Blazing-Saddles of country music.
There -- four slurs in a row.
― Gorge, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 20:42 (sixteen years ago)
Lots of country in the new consumer guide:
― Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 2 September 2009 00:45 (sixteen years ago)
CMA sound quality was bad all around. Especially for a show that was JUST performances without the pretense of awards. I could barely hear the lady in Lady Antebellum.
― dr. phil, Wednesday, 2 September 2009 02:36 (sixteen years ago)
Favorite track on the Paisley: "You Do The Math"
― post-contrarian meta-challop 2009 (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 September 2009 02:47 (sixteen years ago)
I'm way behind on this thread, among other things. Some thoughts:
-- I still need to listen to the new Paisley and new John Anderson. Interesting that Xgau choice-cutted Anderson's version of "Shuttin Detroit Down" but not the hit version (which he may or may not have heard.)
-- Xgau dead wrong about Billy Currington album, but right about Bottle Rockets album (which I didn't really give the time of day until I noticed that Honorable Mention. Their drummer is really kicking now, and so is their songwriting; not sure I've ever heard a better album by them. A lot easier to get through than the new Drive By Truckers outtake thing, too, Zevon/Petty/Dylan covers on the latter or no.) I'm not as inspired to defend the Rodney Atkins and Jason Aldean albums against dudding as I was several months ago, though.
-- Every time I go to that Msn.com consumer guide link, a virus tries to climb into my laptop (which I just got serviced.) So be careful.
-- Saw a country radio sampler CD from c. 1995 in Half-Price Books last week that had a Hootie and the Blowfish song on it, along with obvious country stuff. Wasn't aware that Rucker had been unsuccessfully marketed to the country demographic years before he pulled it off.
-- Keep hearing two songs on country radio here (well, three or so times each) that I assume may not be new ("Texas country" classics maybe?), but google isn't helping me figure out who or what they are. The woolier, more outlaw one (and the one I kind of like) is about "smoking that pachuco weed" and going crazy and stuff; the more annoying and cloying one is about going to Mexico and throwing dinerrrros at the happy citzenry, reminding me of that old Saturday Night Live Weekend Update schtick where the newcasters would roll their r's and exagerrate their accents ridiculously whenever they said "Nicarrrragua." Anybody have any idea what those songs are?
-- Some discussion of old Georgia Satellites and new (and old) Drivin & Cryin albums on the Rolling Hard Rock thread last week, if anybody who's interested didn't notice; starts right about here:
― xhuxk, Thursday, 3 September 2009 21:32 (sixteen years ago)
Darius Rucker is now officially the Cleavon-Little-in-Blazing-Saddles of country music.
Where is Cowboy Troy when we need him?
― xhuxk, Thursday, 3 September 2009 22:32 (sixteen years ago)
Re: MSN Consumer Guide virus. Haven't noticed anything on my computer. But I wish they would go back to the original setup of Christgau's MSN Guide. Now, you have to stroll through each page to read one of his main reviews.
― jetfan, Thursday, 3 September 2009 23:12 (sixteen years ago)
R-rolling-dude also calls Mexicans "muchachos," as I recall, and says something about they "don't care-o when I throw pesos their way." Or something like that. And tosses in a couple shoutouts to "seniorrritas" too, natch. All over your usual "Marrrrgarrrrritaville" lilt.
$1 album I liked more than I thought I would: Rattlesnake Annie, self-titled, Columbia 1987. Native-American-style-ponytailed no-makeup Willie Nelson hippie-trad protege; apparently sold big in Europe and flopped here. Best song "Somewhere South of Macon" could almost be Terri Gibbs; a few others could almost be Lacy J. Dalton, at least.
$1 album I liked less than I thought I would: Gary Stewart, Your Place Or Mine, RCA 1977. A Christgau A-, and Stewart only got one more of those in the '70s, over several albums. But beyond "Ten Years Of This" (great tired heading-for-divorce song which I already knew from the Greatest Hits album), I'm not hearing anything else great on it. All sounds fine, though Stewart's vocal mannerisms can get wearing. All in all, I'm not sure I'd take it over the Stewart/Dean Dillon album from five years later (an Xgau B-).
― xhuxk, Friday, 4 September 2009 00:56 (sixteen years ago)
Xhuxk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB8Nkn3Xjes
Zac Brown?
Does he sing "ass" on the radio?
― dr. phil, Friday, 4 September 2009 02:45 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah, that's the song obviously. Still have the ZB CD around here too, actually (on which it's the first track); just haven't played it since December or so, and I guess the specifics didn't hit me until the radio got to it. "All the muchachos they call me Big Poppa when I throw pesos their way" -- Country's first Notorious B.I.G. reference? And the music is at least as much James Taylor "Mexico" as "Margarittaville." Not sure whether he says "ass" on the radio (I'll listen closer next time if I'm can bear to sit through the thing); definitely rolls himself "a fat one," though -- no idea whether country stations outside of Austin can get away with that. Anyway, somehow, the patronizing minstrel Mexican accents don't quite creep me out so much, hearing them on youtube, as they do hearing them outside of my own volition in the car.
― xhuxk, Friday, 4 September 2009 12:45 (sixteen years ago)
Personal to Brad Paisley, re "She's Her Own Woman," fifth track on your pretty-good-so-far new album (I like "Water" a lot btw): Tarragon, according to an immediately refrigerator-magnetable "Herb Highlights" chart in the August 2009 issue of my primary recipe bible Cooking Light, has a "licorice notes" (whatever that means - sounds yucky) taste; can be useful with seafood, chicken, eggs, sauces; and can be substituted with chevril and parsley if you don't have any on hand. (Strangely, tarragon itself can in turn substitute for dill if you don't have any of that on hand. No idea why the reverse doesn't also hold.) Anyway, if you want to know where your wife keeps the tarragon, you might consider first checking the spice cabinet. Just a thought.
Also, "Welcome To The Future (Reprise)" kind of freaked me out at first. I couldn't figure out why you used the exact same melody for two different songs. But then I realized they weren't exactly different.
― xhuxk, Friday, 4 September 2009 14:04 (sixteen years ago)
(Oops, actually the tarragon song is Brad's sixth track, not fifth. Whatev.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 4 September 2009 14:05 (sixteen years ago)
My local supermarket chain has a fantastic tarragon chicken salad.
― post-contrarian meta-challop 2009 (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 September 2009 14:15 (sixteen years ago)
I make fantastic rosemary chicken salad (w/ scallions, kalamata olives, almonds, shredded carrots, spicy mustard, anchovies). So there!
― xhuxk, Friday, 4 September 2009 14:25 (sixteen years ago)
I did like that line, because at the time I heard it my wife and I'd been tearing through our tarragon like motherfuckers. We had to buy more! How often does that happen? I think it's this French cookbook... Brad should learn how to incorporate it into a sauce for all those fish he catches.
― dr. phil, Friday, 4 September 2009 19:57 (sixteen years ago)
Out of morbid curiosity I listened to Billy McKnight's "Sweeter" f. Mindy McCready, which highlights Mindy at least as much as Billy. Despite Mindy fucking up everything else in her life, her voice is as steady and strong and warm as ever. This is a mush ballad that reaches for the sky, and in the soft parts before all the mountain climbing Billy's voice is inadequate - not awful but not giving much. He just doesn't have it. But when the strings build and the ascent starts, all the molten noise compensates for him, and Mindy melts the glaciers. I would definitely want to hear an album by her, if she can manage one.
As for Mindy and Billy being in the same room together... well, as for Mindy's everything, I'm thinking of that old Flipper song, "Get Away." Go Mindy, get away. Go go GET AWAY.
(For the curious, here's the Mindy McCready Wikipedia page.)
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 7 September 2009 12:15 (sixteen years ago)
What I said about "Toes" over on my livejournal:
Folk guitar picking that starts with a slightly new age roll to it, then adds frills and goes Latin, the deep south's fascination with the farther south. Cheerful enough, the song can't quite lift itself above the singer's mediocrity. BORDERLINE NONTICK.
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 7 September 2009 12:38 (sixteen years ago)
Via email; the xenophobic headline cracks me up. New Gene Watson album on Schanachie, A Taste Of The Truth (which is okay but not nearly as good as his Sings album from six years ago), also has a Trace Adkins duet on it; I wonder of Capitol will "ban" that one, too.
RONNIE MILSAP / TRACE ADKINS DUET BANNED FROM COUNTRY RADIO BY FOREIGN OWNED COMPANY
Nashville, TN (Sept. 16, 2009) Independent American-owned BLEVE Records got some devastating news today. The label’s first single, ”My First Ride,” a rockin’ feel good song performed by legendary entertainer Ronnie Milsap and featuring Capitol recording artist Trace Adkins was rapidly climbing up the country radio charts and garnering national attention in the press.
But that all stopped with a single phone call from Capitol Records Nashville President Mike Dungun. BLEVE Records has been ordered to “cease and desist” with any further unauthorized promotion of this single. Capitol Records has threatened legal action if BLEVE Records does not immediately halt any further publicity or sales of “My First Ride.”
BLEVE Records was created to benefit the Fraternal Order of Police and the International Association of Firefighters. This song was to be the first release from a multi artist compilation CD due out Nov. 1.
BLEVE’s mission is to raise money to help replenish the disaster relief funds of the FOP and IAFF. These funds aid firefighters and police officers and their families experiencing financial hardship after a natural or man made disaster or in times of need due to injury or death in the line of duty. These funds were in the millions prior to 9/11 and recent hurricanes, but are now severely depleted. The proceeds from the sale of “My First Ride” and the compilation CD were slated to help replenish these funds.
Ronnie Milsap was excited to have his long time friend, Trace Adkins, perform on the song with him. Firefighters and police officers were thrilled to have such high caliber artists donate their time and talent for the cause.
Capitol Records, however, sees things a little differently. BLEVE Records President, Mickey Milam, a retired Metro Nashville police officer, has trouble understanding it. “I’ve known Mike Dungun for years. He has a reputation of being fair, so I didn’t see this coming. Trace was gracious enough to sing on this single, not only as a favor to his good friend Ronnie Milsap, but also because he believes in our cause. “
Capitol Records Nashville is owned by the conglomerate company Terra Firma out of Germany. Milam believes that pressure from this foreign- based company is what has slowed his song at radio. “It’s unfortunate that we Americans are being told by a foreign country what music we get to hear on the radio, “says Milam. “We are a very small company, with a handful of dedicated employees. We do not have an enormous marketing budget or a large promotion team. What we have is 600,000 FOP and IAFF members nation wide and in Canada that want to hear this song on the radio. What we have is a desire to raise money for firefighters, police officers and their families who are in need. My hope is that Americans and Canadians embrace our cause and demand that this song be played. “
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 16:34 (sixteen years ago)
What else? I like the new Cross Canadian Ragweed album more than the new Jack Ingram album, not what I would have expected. And new Rosie Flores and Kendell Carson albums are not bad, I guess. And the new Brad Paisley one is almost as good as everybody says it is. That's about it.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 16:38 (sixteen years ago)
not heard the new Miranda Lambert yet, i take it?
― all you need is love vs. money (that's what i want) (Ioannis), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 18:31 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah I have, actually; I say some things here:
http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1339
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 19:11 (sixteen years ago)
Also, a couple emusic reviews I wrote in the past few months:
Charlie Robison
http://www.emusic.com/album/Charlie-Robison-Beautiful-Day-MP3-Download/11487591.html
Alice Peacock
http://www.emusic.com/album/Alice-Peacock-Love-Remains-MP3-Download/11413187.html
Andy Friedman
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 19:17 (sixteen years ago)
Almost always avoided watching Hee Haw as a kid, really couldn't stand it, but I had some vague recollection of Junior Samples when I saw this old Pickwick Records LP Moonshining for a dollar a couple months ago, plus the back cover with some nerdy traveling musicologist interviewing near-400 pound overall-wearing redneck Junior into a tape recorder on the porch of some shack was too weird to resist, so I bought it. And what a strange record: One-third obvious Hee Haw style country comedy corn (first track, "It's a Hee Haw," is all dumb one liners); one-third (accidental?) mock Alan Lomax Folkways document with the musicologist guy asking Junior leading questions; one third dead-on throwback to absurdist depression-era comedic white talking blues, including still timely routines about insurance salesmen, stock markets crashing, and price of medical care. Whole thing lasts under 25 minutes, total. According to Wiki, Samples was a former stock car racer from Georgia who became a fish-tale-telling radio comedian at age 40 (c. 1966), "and created a bumbling personality." BR-549 apparently took their name from some recurring Hee Haw sketch where he played a used car salesmen begging you to call that number. Doesn't explain to what extent his clueless backwoods yokel character is based on his actual life. Also, "In 1974, Samples announced that he was 'seriously considering' running for lieutenant governor of Georgia on a Republican ticket with then-mayor Ronnie Thompson, who was seeking the party's gubernatorial nomination. The media at first presented Samples' announcement as a political story. However, Samples was pulling a practical joke for publicity purposes."
― xhuxk, Monday, 21 September 2009 02:23 (sixteen years ago)
First Steve Forbert LP, Alive On Arrival from 1978, supposedly the highlight of his career, also purchased for a dollar, was not nearly as entertaining. Did places like Rolling Stone really single him out as "the next Dylan" then, or is that just my imagination running away again? I'm pretty sure they did, though. And if they did, they must have been very desperate. He's not even the next Tom Petty! Might be the original Conor Oberst, though, not sure. Anyway, I never realized that "What Kinda Girl?" from Rosanne Cash's Seven Year Ache was originally a Forbert song called "What Kinda Guy?" Definitely prefer her more powerpoppish gender-altered version. And I'm pretty sure my college radio station in Missouri used to play "You Cannot Win If You Do Not Play," which is not a horrible little choogle I'll admit. But nothing here is half as memorable as his one pop hit (and future Keith Urban cover), "Romeo's Tune," from his next album, which critics all called a letdown at the time. Mostly the debut seems to be songs actually about busking, evidently because that's the only thing he knows about. I wouldn't be surprised if his followup was catchier, not that I plan to spend a $1 to find out. (I do see it around a lot.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 21 September 2009 02:46 (sixteen years ago)
Wow, this thread is totally on life support, isn't it?
Anyway, some potentially useful recent additions to Billboard's country song chart that I don't think I've heard, though maybe somebody else has:
11 11 18 4 Cowboy Casanova, Carrie Underwood M.Bright (C.Underwood,M.Elizondo,B.James ) 19 DIGITAL | Arista 19 19 19 31 Red Light, David Nail F.Liddell,M.Wrucke (J.Singleton,M.Peirce,D.Matkosky ) MCA Nashville DIGITAL | 19
28 35 49 3 Southern Voice, Tim McGraw B.Gallimore,T.McGraw,D.Smith (T.Douglas,B.DiPiero ) Curb DIGITAL | 28
32 33 36 14 Today, Gary Allan M.Wright,G.Allan (B.Long,T.L.James ) MCA Nashville DIGITAL | 32
37 38 42 9 Beer On The Table, Josh Thompson M.Knox (J.Thompson,K.Johnson,A.Zack ) Columbia DIGITAL | 37
46 51 2 Sara Smile, Jimmy Wayne Featuring Daryl Hall & John Oates D.Huff (D.Hall,J.Oates ) Valory PROMO SINGLE | 46 47 49 3 Keep On Lovin' You, Steel Magnolia D.Huff (C.Stapleton,T.Willmon ) Big Machine DIGITAL | 47
48 48 51 8 Love Lives On, Mallary Hope D.Bason (M.Hope,S.Stevens,M.West ) MCA Nashville DIGITAL | 48
49 50 56 3 Everywhere I Go, Phil Vassar P.Vassar (P.Vassar,J.Steele ) Universal South DIGITAL | 49
50 57 59 4 Stuck, Ash Bowers B.Cannon (F.J.Myers,B.Montana ) Stoney Creek DIGITAL | 50
52 55 2 19 And Crazy, Bomshel M.Irwin,J.Kear,K.Omunson (M.Irwin,J.Kear,K.Osmunson,K.Shepard ) Curb PROMO SINGLE | 52
56 NEW 1 How Far Do You Wanna Go?, Gloriana M.Serletic (M.Serletic,J.Steele,D.Myrick ) Emblem/Warner Bros. DIGITAL | WRN | 56 59 58 58 3 Mister Officer, Jypsi N.Chapman (E.M.Hill,J.Kear ) Arista Nashville DIGITAL | 58
And Singles Jukebox reviews of current singles by:
Boys Like Girls feat. Taylor Swift
http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1421
Jason Aldean
http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1413
Taylor Swift
http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1373
Michelle Branch (actually now on the country chart)
http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1357
Katie Armiger
http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1293
― xhuxk, Thursday, 1 October 2009 14:40 (sixteen years ago)
Uh, guess I did already hear Steel Magnolia's "Keep On Lovin' You" after all. Mentioned it upthread a spell. Didn't like it much. And it is apparently (and unfortunately) not an REO Speedwagon cover.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 1 October 2009 14:54 (sixteen years ago)
19 19 19 31 Red Light, David Nail
I like this song better than anything else on his album, which is rather bland (going for a train/matchbox 20 ballad thing most of the time). This song may not be any more interesting musically than the others, but I like the detail in the story the lyrics tell. He's at a red light in his car with his girlfriend. She leans over to tell him something. He thinks she's going to say 'look at the guy across the street' or 'look at that kid over there', and instead she breaks up with him.
― erasingclouds, Thursday, 1 October 2009 22:24 (sixteen years ago)
Cowboy Casanova, Carrie Underwood = Bond-theme glam rock, with a pinch each of Nancy Sinatra and Joan Jett. (Latter because title character leans against record machine.)
Red Light, David Nail = As erasingclouds says, more or less. Not awful.
Southern Voice, Tim McGraw = Lite Southern rock list-song: Rosa Parks, Aretha Franklin, Chuck Berry, Pocahontas, Michael Jordan, Billy Graham, Bear Bryant, Hank Williams, "Dr. King," Tom Petty, Jerry Lee, etc.. "Don't let this Allman Brothers (later Charlie Daniels) T-shirt throw ya, we're just boys making noise with a Southern voice." Not bad; may or may not grow on me when I catch all the other names.
Today, Gary Allan -- Dad's daughter gets married. Or starts to date. Oh wait, no I'm wrong -- guy's wife and/or girlfriend leaves instead. I think. Oh wait, nope, I think his ex-girlfriend gets wed to somebody else. Heartfelt, of course. But he's done much better. Actually seems more like a Tim McGraw than a Gary Allan song, when you get down to it. Beer On The Table, Josh Thompson -- Watered-down-Seger via Garth working-for-weekend talking drinking boogie, passingly clever and fun.
Sara Smile, Jimmy Wayne Featuring Daryl Hall & John Oates -- Definitive proof blue-eyed soul is now country, I guess. Couldn't find a version on youtube or Rhapsody with Hall and Oates helping out; the live busker renditions with Wayne on youtube seemed okay but too slow. Will To Power version (with Donna Allen) was way better. Have never heard Boyz II Men, Big Mountain, Joan Osbourne, Latimore, or Boney James versions.
Love Lives On, Mallary Hope -- Big ballad to her ex; learning to live without him type song. He died, and surviving mom and daughter visit his grave on his birthday. Maudlin, forgettable, generic. But still big.
Everywhere I Go, Phil Vassar -- Good singing, nothing song. (And nobody around here likes him anywhere near as much as I usually do, anyway.) Stuck, Ash Bowers -- Butt-rock country about working the assembly line, watching hours get chewed up. As loud as anything Jason Aldean's done, and maybe a smarter song. Except long about now, I have a feeling most guys still on the line are just relieved they haven't been laid off.
19 And Crazy, Bomshel -- Can't find this, which sucks, because it's the one I was most looking forward to. Though supposedly one of the two Bomshels changed since their album that never came out three years ago.
How Far Do You Wanna Go?, Gloriana = Hearts-and-hormones-racing teenybop sex metaphor, more blatant about it than their previous single, and probably better. Also a runaway-from-this-town song, not as good as Love & Theft's from earlier this year but in the same general vicinity. Not sure it lives up to its opening stomp, and not sure why it keeps slowing down (though there's a talk part that kinda suggests early Tom Petty.) But almost definitely the best song on this list...
Mister Officer, Jypsi -- ...Unless this one is. But with this one, I might just really like the video. Very new wave. Or modern rock. Or psychedelic. Or just plain slutty. Anyway, a catchy song about distracted driving. Not because of a cellphone, but because a guy's on their mind. I like when they say they yes they realize this isn't the Autobahn. What other US hits since Kraftwerk have even used that word?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyh3DSbr1_I
― xhuxk, Friday, 2 October 2009 02:19 (sixteen years ago)
Thanks for the Jypsi clip. Don't know if I'd call it country but that's ok, it's an excellent tune.
― that's not my post, Friday, 2 October 2009 07:09 (sixteen years ago)
wow! man, these are some hot chicks! just take a look at those gams!!! (oh, and the song is fun too.)
― where u draw the liney, Whiney? (Ioannis), Friday, 2 October 2009 08:37 (sixteen years ago)
So, here's a question: How stupid would it be if I were to buy a Best Of CD by Lonestar? I've heard their 2000 #1 "What About Now" on the radio twice this month, had no idea what it was, but liked it a lot -- just a real pumping slice of Springsteen-country. Always thought "Mr. Mom" from 2004 was kind of cute, too. Beyond that, I have no idea, though I've always been under the impression that their repertoire was 85 percent mush. Might've been good mush, though. (And both of those songs, fwiw, were after John Rich got fired from the band in 1998.)
Anyway. That new Carrie Underwood song above is not as glam-rock (or as good) as I made it out to be. The elements are kind of there, but they don't add up to a song that's at all fun to sit through. (Also, I realized lotsa Shania Twain '90s hits could also be described as "Bond-theme glam rock, with a pinch each of Nancy Sinatra and Joan Jett," but pretty much any of them did it way better than this song.)
Frank Kogan does't like the song much either, but surprisingly enough he does like the new Lady Antebellum ballad, which I dismissed above:
http://koganbot.livejournal.com/172572.html#cutid1
And speaking of gams, this is the video for the single off Those Darlins' CD (which has yet to hit the country chart, and probably won't -- single or album both), but don't hold that against it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P0XBgSNZEQ
Legs more realistic live, though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C6vgIX25_Q
Aaaaand...a dicussion (in which I take part) of Miranda Lambert's new album can be found here:
miranda lamberthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C6vgIX25_Q
― xhuxk, Sunday, 4 October 2009 23:16 (sixteen years ago)
Oops, sorry about those duplicated Darlins; not sure how that happened.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 4 October 2009 23:17 (sixteen years ago)
Those Darlins tune is about a minute and a half too long for the ramalama which is monochrome monotonous.
Is the entire album like that? In style reminds me of the sometimes good but mostly mediocre to poor cowpunk indie records that came out of LA in the late Eighties, stuff like the Screamin' Sirens.
― Gorge, Monday, 5 October 2009 15:37 (sixteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-LP8qmsQFc
Hmmm, cowpunk-style do on Pirates' Shakin All Over. Probably was louder in person. Still could use a bit more Link Wray, maybe a lot more.
― Gorge, Monday, 5 October 2009 15:50 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah, it's possible I just really miss fair-to-middling '80s cowpunk (which I really wasn't a real big fan of at the time, go figure.) That'd explain me paying $1 for the first Jason and the Scorchers LP (the one after the EP, which I already had) last month. Anyway, "Red Light Love" definitely wouldn't have been my choice for the single off Those Darlins' album -- more like the fourth or fifth choice (think I liked "Hung Up On Me," "The Whole Damn Thing," "Snaggletooth Mama" and "DUI Or Die" more last time I checked), and it's also one of the longer songs (only one of four -- out of 12 -- over three minutes; only "DUI or Die" is over four.) But they're definitely missing something; album seems consistently likeable to me but never quite loveable. Probably it's partly just that they don't have the chops (vocal and instrumental) to match their personalities, which are clearly there. Have no problem with their songwriting, or their sense of humor. And the music has as much energy as anything out of Nashville lately. It'd be interesting to hear what major-label production would do for them, but I have a feeling that's not going to happen.
― xhuxk, Monday, 5 October 2009 16:23 (sixteen years ago)
xp And yeah, they could really use an Amy Surdu (Gore Gore Girls) on guitar to beef up the sound. That "Shakin' All Over" is still kinda hot, though. (And actually, going back and looking at the album, "Red Light Love" might've been more like my eighth choice for a single. Wonder if it was picked partly 'cause other cuts seemed too short?)
― xhuxk, Monday, 5 October 2009 16:36 (sixteen years ago)
Speaking of Steve Forbert (not that this is relevant to Rolling Country, and I'll admit that I've never heard a Steve Forbert album in full), I recently called Drake the Steve Forbert of nice-guy hip-hop superstars (though Fabolous would be the Steve Forbert of all of hip-hop, unless it's Pitbull).
I was as surprised as Xhuxk at my liking Lady Antebellum's "Need You Now." I'm sure I didn't like the first album as much as Xhuxk did, or anything on it as much as this. Seems to be holding up to multiple listens, though who's to tell if I'd like it surrounded by similar mush on an album.
If Rickie Lee Jones belongs on this thread (sure she does; even if she's "jazzy," she's a singer-songwriter folkie), I embedded her on my lj and discussed her doing really hard rock (live mid '90s).
― Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 02:42 (sixteen years ago)
(As Xhuxk says, Rickie Lee was in her post-grunge and jam band phases, neither of which we'd previously known had existed. But I never knew much about Rickie Lee.)
― Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 02:45 (sixteen years ago)
Major milestone today: Over a year after the album it's on came out, and at least six months after it was released as a single, and right on the verge of him releasing his next album, I finally heard "High Cost Of Living" by Jamey Johnson on the radio for the very first time ever! (Take 290 from Austin toward Houston, and the stations you hear around those little towns like Elgin and Giddings and Brenham get pretty outlaw -- I swear, I heard the following three songs, on three different stations, all between around 105.5 and 107.0 FM, right after after each other: Montgomery Gentry "Long Line Of Losers," David Allan Coe "The Ride," Jamey Johnson "High Cost Of Living." Probably not a good place to knock over somebody else's beer, if you go to a bar.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 20:00 (sixteen years ago)
Best album of the 2010s so far: Ray Wylie Hubbard A. Enlightenment B. Endarkment (Hint: There Is No C) (Thirty Tigers/Bordello), due out in mid January. (I've never listened to him before; in fact, I'm pretty sure I've heard more country songs where he's mentioned by other people than ones he actually sings. But here at least, he's got a tough blues-rock sound, and the songs really churn, and the words sound smart. Not sure whether I'll like it more or less as time goes on, but at least I made it through the thing on first listen -- way more than I say for the latest albums by Guy Clark and Robert Earl Keen, fellow Texas country elder-statesman cult heroes who I've at least been making a point of trying to listen to since I moved down here. Those two albums struck me as really drab; Hubbard's doesn't hit me that way at all. Would be curious about other folks' thoughts about the guy.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 9 October 2009 15:32 (sixteen years ago)
why are people who are inclined to hate nashville auto-twang country interested in Miranda Lambert?is she better than everything else?
― lukevalentine, Friday, 9 October 2009 15:40 (sixteen years ago)
is she really better*
― lukevalentine, Friday, 9 October 2009 15:41 (sixteen years ago)
She's an angel fell to earth, and exactly what nu-country needs right now. Not a song about tequila in sight. I'm quite fond of the ground she walks on.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 9 October 2009 19:02 (sixteen years ago)
Just heard a tune by Jimmy LaFave - who I've never heard of before. The song is called "Car Outside" and it detours from the usual Texas yallternative style (which I admit I've a soft spot for) with a chorus that's more Stones than Robert Earl Keen. Awesome tune - wonder what the rest of his stuff is like?
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 9 October 2009 19:04 (sixteen years ago)
1000 words I wrote about Brad Paisley):
http://www.villagevoice.com/2009-10-13/music/brad-paisley-is-ready-to-make-nice/
(The headlines weren't mine, however.)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 18:10 (sixteen years ago)
He must've been into Merseybeat for a long long time. For the past couple of years he's continually been on in the guitar mags about his old Vox amps and newer small manufacturer-made buys which recreate the circuitry.
Said he was inspired into the tune by someone older who had a similar backline at a time, probably the late Eighties or early Nineties, when everyone else was using Fenders.
It does contribute to his tone, which is immediately recognizable, and distinct from everyone else.A lot, if not all of that tends to come from your fingers, but your fingers and ears have an almost unconscious ability to pull the best tones possible for specific amps, the better you get.
― Gorge, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 21:56 (sixteen years ago)
CMT blog talks about Chuck Eddy's Brad Paisley Voice articlehttp://blog.cmt.com/2009-10-14/village-voice-fills-the-page-with-brad-paisleyisms/#more-3235
― jetfan, Thursday, 15 October 2009 00:39 (sixteen years ago)
When the story finally comes to an end, I think you're supposed to draw the conclusion that Eddy's Paisley article is good. So while there were words to the contrary spinning in and around every paragraph, the writer ends by saying that Eddy says that Paisley is indeed the "big ol' wuss...
― xhuxk, Thursday, 15 October 2009 00:58 (sixteen years ago)
xhuxk, I think you are on a roll with that Jypsi and Those Darlin songs. (Anyway I like both of them a bit, even if they don't sound anything like Miranda Lambert.)
― _Rudipherous_, Thursday, 15 October 2009 10:54 (sixteen years ago)
(Not that you said they did--that was just some sort of joke.)
Richard Heene -- "The Contractor"
http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/20/richard-heene-balloon-boy-reality-show-theme-music/
― Gorge, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 01:09 (sixteen years ago)
Jimmy Draper just emailed me that Emma Jacob (18-year-old country singer whom I'd not previously heard of) covers Hope Partlow's "Crazy Summer Nights" on her new album. It's first up on her MySpace, and unfortunately it's really weak, but "Juliana" and "Shotgun" are better, and "Wrong" is better than they are. Jacob doesn't seem distinctive, and I think she needs stronger arrangements, but her voice is warm; she comes off better being sad and mushy than rocking, but the weakness of the latter may be owing to her arrangements, or the MySpace rips. Worth keeping track of.
Here's the MySpace of Angie Aparo, who co-wrote "Crazy Summer Nights"; from the tracks I'd describe his genre as singer-songwriterish Adult Top 40, though with rock-leaning arrangements. Something in his voice reminds me of Harry Chapin: a slight vibrato and a tendency to end lines emphatically. He lists himself as rock-indie-pop.
And the MySpace for Kevin Kadish, the other writer of "Crazy Summer Nights." From the evidence his own voice is blah, but he's mainly a writer, arranger, and producer and has posted OK Stacie Orrico track. Besides "Crazy Summer Nights" his other teenpop credits (that I know of) are as co-writer of Lucy Woodward's "Dumb Girls" and "Trust Me."
― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 25 October 2009 05:05 (sixteen years ago)
Interesting mixed-reaction Ben Ratliff NY Times review of Brad Paisley live at Madison Square Garden, focused on his guitar playing as much as his songwriting. Also says he covered "Boys Of Summer" there:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/24/arts/music/24paisley.html
― xhuxk, Sunday, 25 October 2009 13:18 (sixteen years ago)
Also been wanting to ask whether country radio has seemed as boring everywhere else these past couple months as it's seemed here (which is to say, maybe even more boring than the rest of music radio has been.) Don't see many promising songs climbing the country chart now, either, though "Chasing Girls" -- my favorite track on Rodney Atkins' current album (which I now admit is fairly mediocre) did enter at #56 this week.
Speaking of mediocre, I think the new Toby Keith album might be his most marginal of the '00s, if not his career, even despite how much I like the title track "American Ride." Only other song on that level seems to be the unplayable-on-radio (because it contains the words "asshole" and "son of a bitches") Middle-Eastern-tinged martial-folk soldiers-in-Iraq number "Ballad Of Balad" ("featuring the Hogliners," whoever they are); a couple years ago, Toby would have called it a "bus song," but now he just closes with it and leaves it there. "Gypsy Driftin," "Every Dog Has Its Day" and the smooth-jazzed Wayman Tisdale eulogy "Cryin' For Me" I can live with, so it's still a keeper in my book, but then I got it for free, and none of thoese rank anywhere near his best work. Curious if anybody else hears anything that I don't. My gut feeling is that producing himself has weakened the quality control process, either that or Toby's just run out of ideas (note that the hit isn't even a song he wrote), but I could be wrong.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 25 October 2009 13:43 (sixteen years ago)
Actually, guess another possibility is that this album was just rushed onto the market to capitalize on "American Ride"'s success as a single -- didn't hear much prior notice about it before it came out, but then again Toby's always been a clockwork-reliable album-a-year kind of guy.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 25 October 2009 13:45 (sixteen years ago)
Also, last year's That Don't Make Me A Bad Guy (also self-produced) was no monster, either, more evidence for my theories above.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 25 October 2009 13:48 (sixteen years ago)
from Ratliffs Paisley piece:
But the lonely insight and the self-deprecating boast aren’t stadium moves. Running between four microphones spaced hundreds of yards apart, and playing thousand-noted solos: these are stadium moves. This tough reality poses a problem, though it’s hard to imagine Mr. Paisley seeing a problem as anything but an opportunity.
stadium country is the new stadium rock?
is this a relatively new thing, Chuck, or has it been going on for a while now?
(and yes, i know about Willie in Texas during the '70s and Farm Aid later on, thanks. i'm just wondering if this is a new approach/opportunity(?) for top forty-type country stars.)
― the not-fun one (Ioannis), Sunday, 25 October 2009 16:09 (sixteen years ago)
Not since Garth Brooks it's not. (I mean, there may have been others, too. But people always said his live shows owed as much to Kiss and Journey as to, say, George Strait. So anybody's to credit or blame, he is.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 25 October 2009 16:13 (sixteen years ago)
although the Willie shows were outdoor festival-type events, right? so they probably don't count as stadium shows, even if he did get hundreds of thousands of people showing up.
xp
d'oh! yer right, i forgot all about Garth.
― the not-fun one (Ioannis), Sunday, 25 October 2009 16:16 (sixteen years ago)
He made it to the middle of the arena, then returned to the microphone, still soloing. It was an accomplishment, but a cold one, no better or worse than any other solo he’d played.
Mr. Paisley is a guitar geek posing as a dry wit. His pose is terrific; it just doesn’t adequately conceal the geek. Lots of us put on a blithe and blasé front to hide our inner compulsions, and for a good reason: not because they’re embarrassing, but because they’re dull. Over two hours, Mr. Paisley’s guitar playing — fast, fluid and voluminous — lost its flavor completely. There was just so much of it (mostly on the Telecaster; Mr. Paisley’s style is a monument to that instrument’s lean, percussive sound and country-music tradition) that it stole power from the lyrics.
Fairly accurate. But anyone who's been reading the guitar mags for the last couple years knows it already.
And the CMT concert that aired quite a bit a year or two ago showed he's been doing the arena rock pandering as soon as he got to the arena.
And Keith Urban's live shtick probably preceded that by a couple.
― Gorge, Sunday, 25 October 2009 18:04 (sixteen years ago)
Another way of saying this is that Paisley's instrumental album is never going to be a country pop equiv to Jeff Beck's Blow by Blow, the guitar player's album which probably got the warmest reception from general critics and, for the time period, was never strongly criticized for being dull.
― Gorge, Sunday, 25 October 2009 18:08 (sixteen years ago)
Only hear country radio when my friend Leslie, the structural engineer originally from the Detroit 'burbs, is driving me around, and lately she's found an '80s oldies station that she'd rather play. At home, the only radio I've been listening to has been hip-hop/r&b, though I'm mainly doing that to torture myself, since this is the worst year for that ever; though it is giving me more of a sense of why they Black Eyed Peas are hitting so big. Their stuff stands out on the radio in a way it doesn't amidst all the weird stuff I listen to over my headphones. And the older songs that get played on the hip-hop/r&b stations (more and more of them because artists are forgetting to create new ones) also stand out. But I'll probably be jumping to KYGO (country station) soon for home listening, for a while.
Funny thing is, usually in late November every year I'm saying, "OK, time to really catch up with country music, since I've only got, like, five songs that are top-ten worthy for my country ballot." Whereas this year I've already got 25 songs that are top-ten worthy for my country ballot, without even looking for them. I guess not a lot of them were hits. Caitlin & Will, whose "Even Now" will be in my top ten, never even got their album released, so they called it quits. A shame.
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 26 October 2009 03:22 (sixteen years ago)
...why the Black Eyed Peas are hitting so big...
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 26 October 2009 03:50 (sixteen years ago)
At home, the only radio I've been listening to has been hip-hop/r&b, though I'm mainly doing that to torture myself, since this is the worst year for that ever; though it is giving me more of a sense of why they Black Eyed Peas are hitting so big
You and Sasha Frere-Jones (see thread on him linking to his recnet New Yorker piece) hating on current hip-hop. The Black Eyed Peas only seem to get played in DC on crossover pop top 40 stations while the hiphop/r'n'b ones play Drake, Lil Wayne, and Jay-Z with Rihanna "Run This Town." I don't find any of the latter torture.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 26 October 2009 05:01 (sixteen years ago)
You can have the Peas.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 26 October 2009 05:02 (sixteen years ago)
Definitely find the Peas's singles considerably more bearable than Drake's singles (not that either of them have anything to do with country, unless somebody explains how otherwise.)
John Darnielle on Drakar Sauna, whose new album (and previous albums) I briefly found vaguely interesting in parts, but ultimately too thin and cutesy to stomach. (I don't know who Sex Clark Five are. When I listen to Drakar Sauna I think "Kaleidoscope" once in a while, but it's been two decades since I heard a Kaleidoscope album so I'm probably wrong):
http://www.lastplanetojakarta.com/2009/10/sometimes_you_dont_really_know.html
― xhuxk, Thursday, 29 October 2009 13:42 (sixteen years ago)
Speaking of Darnielle, he and I were disagreeing somewhat on a different thread yesterday about just how American country music is. Discussion starts at the link below; scroll down for my reply, his reply to my reply, and other people piping in with their two cents:
What is the one true American Music?
And here's a review of Tim Carroll's album (which I like, but haven't written about anywhere) from the often endearingly curmudgeony Austin freebie paper 3rd Coast Music:
TIM CARROLLAll Kinds Of Pain(Gulcher)
Connecting vintage Chris Bouchillon/Woody Guthrie-style ‘talking blues,’ Midwest punk and the Grand Ole Opry may sound like a challenge, but actually it’s pretty easy, just think Tim Carroll. Starting out as lead guitarist with The Gizmos, Carroll, though long based in Nashville, where’s he’s ‘won’ a couple three ‘Best Unsigned Artist’ awards and has played guitar at the Opry countless times behind his wife, Elizabeth Cook, never turned his back on his Indiana punk roots. Indeed his eighth album is on The Gizmos’ hardcore label, which, let us say, doesn’t put out a whole lot of 3CM type records. Carroll’s lo-fi aesthetic isn’t just the poor man’s way, it’s an integral element in his music, as is his wry, worldly sense of humor. Playing everything but drums, which are handled by Marco Giovino, even providing his own backing vocals, Carroll’s distinctive standouts here are the drawling, conversational Educated, That’s What I’m For, Poor Man’s Way, the title track, You Got Me and If I Could, but his more rocking stuff, notably Can’t Stay Young (“but you can stay cool”) and Run For Love, isn’t far behind. There are various other ‘underground’ Nashville artists who share some traits with Carroll, such as Paul Burch, Tommy Womack and Will Kimborough, but none are as consistently interesting and entertaining. John Conquest3rd Coast Music
I know nothing about Chris Bouchillon, Paul Burch, Tommy Womack, or Will Kimborough, or at least I don't think I do; worth checking out?
Also want to mention that both the best new country album and best new hard rock album I've heard this year might be Kentucky Headhunters' Authorized Bootleg: Live/Agora Ballroom Cleveland, Ohio May 13 1990 (Mercury), which I nonetheless may opt not to vote for in any year-end top-ten polls since it was recorded almost 20 years ago, even though there's lots of songs (from Doug Sahm, Larry Williams, Free, Robert Johnson via Cream, Norman Greenbaum, etc) that I'm pretty sure the Headhunters have never released any versions of before. (Or maybe I will vote for it; haven't decided yet. Opinions welcome.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 30 October 2009 23:12 (sixteen years ago)
http://www.countryuniverse.net/2009/10/21/the-worst-singles-of-the-decade-part-1-50-41/
Country Universe is doing the 50 worst Country songs of the decade. #s 50-11 so far.
#50 Mark Wills, “19 Somethin’”#49 Toby Keith, “Who’s Your Daddy?”#48 Halfway to Hazard, “Daisy”#47 Martina McBride, “(I Never Promised You a) Rose Garden”#46 Rascal Flatts, “Revolution”#45 Joe Nichols, “If Nobody Believed In You”#44 Miranda Lambert, “Dead Flowers”#43 Lady Antebellum, “Lookin’ For a Good Time”#42 Billy Gilman, “She’s My Girl”#41 Sammy Kershaw & Lorrie Morgan, “He Drinks Tequila”#40 Kenny Chesney & George Strait, “Shiftwork”#39 Anita Cochran featuring The Voice of Conway Twitty, “(I Wanna Hear) A Cheatin’ Song”#38 Billy Dean, “Let Them Be Little”#37 Montgomery Gentry, “She Couldn’t Change Me”#36 Sarah Johns, “The One in the Middle”#35 Chuck Wicks, “Stealing Cinderella”#34 Faith Hill, “The Way You Love Me”#33 Tracy Byrd, “Drinkin’ Bone”#32 Jo Dee Messina, “Biker Chick”#31 Buddy Jewell, “This Ain’t Mexico”#30 Terri Clark, “Dirty Girl”#29 Jamey Johnson, “The Dollar”#28 Garth Brooks & Trisha Yearwood, “Love Will Always Win”#27 Darryl Worley, “Have You Forgotten?”#26 Clint Black, “I Raq and Roll”#25 Shania Twain and Billy Currington, “Party For Two”#24 Martina McBride, “God’s Will”#23 Brooks & Dunn, “Play Something Country”#22 Jason Aldean, “Johnny Cash”#21 Gretchen Wilson, “Red Bird Fever”#20 The Lost Trailers, “Holler Back”#19 Trailer Choir, “Rockin’ the Beer Gut”#18 Bucky Covington, “A Different World”#17 Toby Keith featuring Krystal, “Mockingbird”#16 Billy Ray Cyrus featuring Miley Cyrus, “Ready, Set, Don’t Go”#15 Blake Shelton, “The Baby”#14 Neal McCoy, “Billy’s Got His Beer Goggles On”#13 Gretchen Wilson, “All Jacked Up”#12 Brad Paisley, “Ticks”#11 Trace Adkins, “Swing”
― President Keyes, Sunday, 1 November 2009 15:53 (sixteen years ago)
Ha ha, I like too many of these to even list.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 1 November 2009 16:17 (sixteen years ago)
Totally rooting for "Save A Horse (Ride A Cowboy)" to finish #1 now. (You can tell there's gonna be some Big N Rich in the Top Ten.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 1 November 2009 16:19 (sixteen years ago)
Best song on their list so far (and probably one of the best country hits of the decade) = Montgomery Gentry, “She Couldn’t Change Me.”
(And they did still manage to include some stinkers, obviously.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 1 November 2009 17:34 (sixteen years ago)
I'm permanently off the Brad Paisley bus after getting an eyeful of his "Welcome to the Future Video", and advertisement for the wonders of consumer electronics, Japanese karaokers doing Brad Paisley and the Asimo robot which should never be seen again.
From "Alcohol" to "On-line" to this, a steady vigorous gold-medal ready dive into really slick and professional crap for product placement endorsements.
If he thinks he's buried a message in this one he's seriously deluded.
Many rotten debacles on CMT Top 20 thisafter. Brooks & Dunn's jumping up and down in the mudpuddle with Billy Gibbons making a cameo, Jesse James' girl-in-leather-mini shtick "My Cowboy" late Eighties sub-Blue Murder cock rock with gratuitous banjo & fiddle glue-on paste jewelry plus Jason Aldean's 16th or 17th Bad Company trip, "Green Tractor."
Music without limits, sez the host. As unintentionally ridiculous and shitty as the Republican Party they so love to say their proud members of.
Music for the college football stars who always mention Jesus at the postgame interview, the Colt McCoys and Tate Forciers and Matt Barkleys, although Jesus wasn't listening to the latter two yesterday when they were having new holes ripped in their asses by the competition.
I'm lobbying for this being renamed as what it is, truth in advertising law: Shitty Propaganda Hard Rockfor those who haven't yet been fired or foreclosed upon.
― Gorge, Sunday, 1 November 2009 21:11 (sixteen years ago)
Without my knowing it (because I don't own a TV), Jace Everett's "Bad Things" - which was first released in 2005 and which we (well, Roy and Matt and Xhuxk) talked about on Rolling Country 2006 (and Edd and I talked a little bit about Everett, I think agreeing with Xhuxk that Jace was getting over on his songs more than on his singing), and then I brought it up again on Rolling Country 2007 to point out that the way Miley sings "I just can't wait to see you again" is fairly similar to how Jace sings "I wanna do bad things with you" (not that she and Armato & James copied it but that they and Everett were pulling from the same rockabilly model) - well, without anyone telling me about it, Jace Everett's "Bad Things" became the theme song to HBO's True Blood, and, presumably related to this (and for all I know someone sang it last week on X Factor, though Google doesn't seem to think so, or maybe True Blood is breaking big overseas), it rose this week to #49 on the British pop charts. Good little record; I had it number 20 on my top country singles list for 2006 (four spots lower than Everett's "That's The Kind Of Love I'm In").
This is the second song this year that I know of to debut on the British charts four years after getting its first release (the other is the Veronicas' "4ever," released in Australia in 2005 and released here in the U.S. in 2006, becoming my single of the year, and hitting #17 last month in Britain).
Everett's done two albums since then, neither of which I've heard. Red Revelations was released in June.
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 2 November 2009 07:25 (sixteen years ago)
I recall that ilX was down in late 2006, and a lot of the Jace Everett conversation between me and Edd was via email. Iirc, I said that I liked Everett's songs but that he had a mannequin voice.
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 2 November 2009 07:38 (sixteen years ago)
Interesting -- I had a minor hunch this week that something might be going on with "Bad Things," but I had no idea what. Last week, on a different ILM thread, somebody whose name I didn't recognize named the song as having one of the best guitar solos of the '00s, which inspired me to pull out my copy of Jace Everett's CD, which still seemed okay but vocally meh and didn't blow me away. ("Bad Things" was the best track, does have some good dirty twang to it.) Then, Saturday night, I went to a Halloween party, and the aging Austin psychobillies who lived in the old-monster-movie-decorated house had instruments set up in the living room, and played stuff like "Whole Lot Of Shakin' Going On," "Rumble," Sam the Sham's "Little Red Riding Hood," assorted Wanda Jacksony and Crampsy and Etta Jamesy things I couldn't place off hand, and, uh..."Bad Things." Which on one hand fit right in (Frank called it Roy Orbison type rockabilly when it came out), but on the other hand felt out of place, 'cause since when do old psychobillies pay attention to current Nashville country? But if it's now a theme to a TV show involving vampires, it all makes sense. (More than the Veronicas, the analogy I might draw is when A3's "Woke Up This Morning" hit in the US years after initial release, when it became the Sopranos theme. Can imagine the two songs appealing to some of the same people, too.)
Meanwhile, I have now given it to Lady Antebellum's current late-night drunk-dialing schmaltz duet "I Need You Now," recommended by Frank above. Something about its sound reminds me as much of '80s quiet storm AC R&B as county, oddly, which turns out not to be that bad a thing.
― xhuxk, Monday, 2 November 2009 13:41 (sixteen years ago)
(Or, uh, who knows, maybe it's not the best track on his album, which I wasn't attending to all that close when I had it on last week. Guess I should go back and listen again to the track that Frank ranked higher on his '06 singles list...)
― xhuxk, Monday, 2 November 2009 13:44 (sixteen years ago)
Kat Stevens reports: "True Blood is indeed now a Thing over here thx to the gateway drug of Twilight."
Here's a stream of "That's The Kind Of Love I'm In" over on Yahoo: Byrd's jangle mixed into basic guitar groove; unassuming and nice. Would like to hear what Tom Petty could do with it.
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 2 November 2009 14:52 (sixteen years ago)
Byrds jangle, that is (meaning McGuinn, not Tracy).
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 2 November 2009 14:57 (sixteen years ago)
Listening to it on the CD now; it's good and jangly, right, though I definitely prefer the slimy moodiness and kingsnake crawling of "Bad Things." So does anybody know who plays guitar on those particular Everett tracks? On one photo inside the CD cover, Jace is pictured with a guitar itself, but I'm guessing it might be just a prop. CD credits list Radney Foster, N. James Lowery, and Chris Raspante as playing acoustic; Eric Borash, JT Corenflos, Russ Pahl, and Chris Raspante as playing electric. Doesn't break it down song by song, though.
I don't own a TV
But wait, having you been doing epsiode by episode rundowns of Buffy on your livejournal, Frank? That's a neat trick - Do you just go watch it on the TVs at Best Buy, or where?
― xhuxk, Monday, 2 November 2009 15:34 (sixteen years ago)
Oh wait, duh -- People play DVDs on their computers now. Doh. (I know I sound out of it, but actually that's what we were doing until a couple months ago, when we got a good cheap TV to replace the one we'd gotten rid of before leaving New York because it was too heavy to move.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 2 November 2009 15:38 (sixteen years ago)
And people also download TV shows. (Though I've never done that myself.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 2 November 2009 15:40 (sixteen years ago)
And you can watch TV shows on Hulu, but I haven't yet and suspect that my DSL modem isn't fast enough to handle it. (Is only sometimes adequate to YouTube or MySpace.) But obviously I could hunt down this show or that, but "hunt down this show or that" is a different psychology from "turn on TV and get a sense of what is there" (though that distinction will probably disappear soon enough). But one reason not to have a TV is to not spend time hunting down this TV or that when I need to be concentrating on other stuff. (Hmmmm.)
That "one true American music" thread was pretty frustrating, since it followed the venerable ilX strategy of "Let's say provocative things but never focus or follow through on our ideas," then devolving into embeds and wisecracks.
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 2 November 2009 16:10 (sixteen years ago)
One reason to have a TV instead of relying on the Internet is so not to add more annoying steps in between watching what you want to watch. Although now made digital for everyone on cable, TV is still less complicated and error prone than an Internet connection. Although the distinction is being made blurry by the usual raft of predatory US business practices, not to mention -- for example -- Charter cable which is doing everything in its power as a Paul Allen company to make TV-watching as crash and glitch filled as Microsoft software.
It's funny how analog TV used to work perfectly. Then all the business writers began telling everybody totoal digital conversion would change all that, like they told everyone the ownership and riches society was here, and when it arrived, it turned out to be different.
Wait til we get to go back to the old Compuserve method of web access, which was to meter it for everyone, like gas. Spend an hour or two on YouTube every week and get driven into bankruptcy. While the rest of the westernized nations are moving to make Internet a right, we'll get Internet like bank industry financial products and services.
EORant.
― Gorge, Monday, 2 November 2009 16:23 (sixteen years ago)
The top 10 Country Universe worst songs list:
http://www.countryuniverse.net/2009/11/01/the-worst-singles-of-the-decade-part-5-10-1/
#10 Alan Jackson, “www.memory”
Wasn’t there anyone who could tell him that this wasn’t going to work? It’s a terribly awkward effort to force a classic concept into a current framework. (See also: Lorrie Morgan, “1-800-Used-To-Be”)
#9 Reba McEntire & Kelly Clarkson, “Because of You”
This could’ve been great. Two great singers, one great song. The fatal flaw is that it just doesn’t work as a duet. The lyrics don’t make sense when it’s two people singing to each other.
#8 Lonestar, “Mr. Mom”
Mr.Mom was the first movie that I saw in theaters. Back then, the concept of a stay-at-home Dad was novel. By the time this song rolled around, it was hard to even take the conceit of the song seriously. This guy’s not struggling because he’s a guy. He’s struggling because he’s a bumbling fool.
#7 Kenny Chesney, “She Thinks My Tractor’s Sexy”
The song that made Chesney a superstar doesn’t involve him lounging around on a tropical island, but it sure does make me thankful that he stopped singing about country living.
#6 Kellie Coffey, “When You Lie Next To Me”
It’s rarely the prototypes that are terrible. It’s usually the copies. By the time “Where Were You” became “I Raq and Roll”, the post-9/11 song was insufferable. Here’s what “Breathe” finally devolved into: a schlocky mess that is such a lazy copy that “Just breathe” becomes “Just be.”
#5 Toby Keith, “Stays in Mexico”
Though it’s a fairly tasteless song to begin with, production choices sink this one in the end. Silly sound effects and a backing track that makes “Hot! Hot! Hot!” seem subtle and understated push this dangerously close to novelty status.
#4 Rascal Flatts, “Bob That Head”
A desperate attempt to come off like edgy rockers.
#3 Taylor Swift, “Picture to Burn”
Criticizing Swift for being an irrational teenager is like criticizing water for being wet. But this really is Swift at her absolute worst. Not only is a juvenile lyric coupled with a disastrous vocal performance, both of which are bad enough in their own right. But the underlying message that most of Swift’s songs send to her teenage girl audience is on most naked display: Your happiness and self-worth are solely determined by the men and boys in your life.”
#2 John Michael Montgomery, “The Little Girl”
The most horrific “inspirational song” that I’ve ever heard is directly ripped off from an urban legend that showed up in songwriter Harley Allen’s inbox.
#1 Chad Brock, “Yes!”
Nothing captures how country music embraced mediocrity better than this Chad Brock single, which actually spent three weeks at #1. The storyline is completely unbelievable, the production is as generic as a Karaoke track, and Brock’s performance is so faceless that it might as well be a demo recording.
As awful as some of the other songs on this list are, they at least aspired to make a larger point. Spectacular failures can still demonstrate a noble ambition. “Yes!” aspires to be nothing more than radio filler, and it succeeded in dulling down the radio dial during its entire run. Hearing it again on satellite radio last month was the inspiration for this list. The song’s only indication of personality being the exclamation point in the title? That secured its place atop the list. It truly does represent country music being drained of all of its heart and soul until just a token fiddle is all that’s left to identify it as such.
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 12:09 (sixteen years ago)
No Big N Rich??? I'm shocked. Anyway, even when I disagree with him, that guy's disses are frequently quite pithy, and sometimes funny. My favorite of ones I've read so far (which I don't totally disagree with):
#44Miranda Lambert, “Dead Flowers”
Person #1: “Wow, this song has no melody at all.”Person #2: “Did she just compare herself to Christmas lights?”Person #1: “And it just goes on forever. Who’s singing this anyway?”Person #2: “It’s by….Miranda Lambert.”Person #1: “Miranda Lambert?…..It’s…..brilliant!”Person #2: “Yes. Brilliant!”
New Xgau Consumer Guide on MSN expresses several mixed feelings about the Avett Brothers (who I've yet to hear anything I liked by.) (Also, for the first time on that CG site, I didn't get a virus message.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 19:56 (sixteen years ago)
Ones I like on this 50 Worst list: Miranda, Paisley, Jason Aldean, Jamey Johnson. Most of the others are mediocre to awful. The Brooks & Dunn & Neal McCoy are major offenders. And the cover of "Revolution" redefines clueless. But the worst is that Clint Black travesty. So bad it'll make you stomach Darryl Worley's jingoism. And the best write-up is on the Bucky Covington one.
― jetfan, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:42 (sixteen years ago)
Well, only two of his top ten worst ever made my country critics ten best ("Stays In Mexico" and "Because Of You").
― Frank Kogan, Thursday, 5 November 2009 20:44 (sixteen years ago)
I talk about the six new Taylor Swift tracks here (though one of the new tracks has been floating 'round the Web in an inferior rip for the last two years).
― Frank Kogan, Thursday, 5 November 2009 20:49 (sixteen years ago)
"But the underlying message that most of Swift’s songs send to her teenage girl audience is on most naked display: Your happiness and self-worth are solely determined by the men and boys in your life.”
This is an astoundingly dumb comment.
― uninspired girls rejoice!!! (Hoot Smalley), Thursday, 5 November 2009 20:49 (sixteen years ago)
Comment not just dumb, but within it is an astounding (ok, not astounding, but rather, utterly predictable and conventional) contempt for the critical skills of the gullible teen girl audience he is supposedly exhibiting concern for. Which isn't to say that the guy isn't putting his finger on what's a hot-button issue for Taylor, i.e., boys - see my own Country Critics ballot which is either somewhere upthread or at the end of last year's - but his only bothering to notice one side of what's a powerful tension in Taylor and not bothering to notice the other, that's something I have contempt for. Making "worst of" lists does tend to throw people into that kind of a trap, however.
― Frank Kogan, Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:32 (sixteen years ago)
Also, it's odd to pick a song where Taylor happily throws a guy out of her life as one's example of her contending that happiness and self-worth are determined by the men and boys in your life. Which isn't to say that the song, like most of hers, isn't set within the romance cycle (songs occurring anywhere in the cycle from meeting to pursuing to being pursued to yearning to getting together to not getting together all the way through to long-time love to happy reminiscence to bittersweet reminiscence [her very first single!] to embittered recollection to revenge etc. in about eighty different varieties), but that's true of the vast majority of songs in English-language popular music of the last one hundred years. The reason the issue feels so hot-button in Taylor's music isn't just that her artistry makes it vivid but that she's layered onto it the singer-songwriter romantic* idea of the quest for self and the story of growth by way of those personal relationships. She's portraying a lot of her material as autobiographical, part of the Taylor Swift adventure. Whereas "Stays In Mexico" and "She Couldn't Change Me" and "Independence Day" and "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend" aren't purporting to be actual events in the singer's life - which doesn't mean that the singers aren't just as committed as Taylor is to the attitudes and experiences and the worlds of their songs, but a lot of it is expressive fiction, "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend" even announcing itself as a type of song. (As does Taylor's "Love Story," telling us not that Taylor's lived that story but that this is the type of story she carries with her.)
But what made me see red from that writeup was that it was the only blurb in the top ten to claim that the song was bad for what it was doing to its audience. Not that one shouldn't think about audiences - I think about people who might be reading me, for instance, though I should probably expend more thought on how better to harm them - but concern for the (supposed) listener is a shtick in criticism of teenpop that you don't get nearly as much elsewhere, is an excuse for not truly engaging with the music. As Dave has pointed out, stories about and concert reviews of the White Stripes, for instance, don't generally concentrate on the people in the audience in the way that stories about and reviews of High School Musical do. There should be more written about the White Stripes' audience, probably, but not to the exclusion of engaging with the music as listeners ourselves. It's through my ears that I take in the music, after all.
*In the sense of "romanticism" or "the romantic era," not "a romantic evening."
― Frank Kogan, Friday, 6 November 2009 13:38 (sixteen years ago)
A good convo over on Lex's lj a couple of months ago - unfortunately under flock - among Lex, Cis, and Alex O. as to whether or not Taylor Swift is princess pop. I'd say "Yes, but..." the "yes" being that yes indeed she plays to the five-year-old girls with unicorns on their walls and their (Cis's words) "disney and dress-up and the 'some day my prince will come' construct," and the "but" being that those girly-girl aspirations are actually all over the place and require you to say "I'm not a princess" and in Taylor's case are accompanied by anger that's even more viscerally palpable than Miranda Lambert's. And you've got Taylor on the borderline, both embracing and being at odds with the story and playing the story you tell off the life you actually live (seems to me that in "You Belong With Me" the self-esteem is very much there, boy or no boy, but there's her frustration in regard to when are the boy and the world going to get in line with the esteem and why do both boy and world prefer getting ground into dirt to soaring with her). And it mixes in with her other stories, the romantic quest for the female self but also country's reaching backward as well as forward. What I wrote on Lex's thread was "The country stream that feeds into her ocean has a history of busted romance songs and also has her doing songs about siblings and intergenerational continuity and cross-generational commonality," the last several tracks on Taylor Swift, for instance, and "The Best Day" on Fearless.
― Frank Kogan, Friday, 6 November 2009 15:31 (sixteen years ago)
Speaking of cross-generational commonality, there's nothing wrong at all about two women singing "Because Of You" with/to each other given that the song is about a daughter repeating her mother's bad patterns (and who knows how many generations that can go, backward and forward). The video works this by having Kelly playing Reba's mother as a young woman in flashback, and adult Reba back there too, observing but unable to change what happens.
― Frank Kogan, Friday, 6 November 2009 15:52 (sixteen years ago)
The Reba/Kelly vid. (And actually the lyrics are ambiguous as to whether the patterns are being repeated or are being shunned in a totally destructive fashion. The daughter claims at the beginning that she's being careful not to make the same mistakes the mother had, but in the middle she's crying in the night for the same damn thing anyway.)
― Frank Kogan, Friday, 6 November 2009 16:03 (sixteen years ago)
(My sentence itself was ambiguous: I meant that it's the manner of shunning that's destructive, not the ambiguity that's destructive.)
― Frank Kogan, Friday, 6 November 2009 16:08 (sixteen years ago)
New Robert Christgau article on Brad Paisleyhttp://bit.ly/46vsUS
― jetfan, Sunday, 8 November 2009 19:41 (sixteen years ago)
CMA Awards are on right now. Lefsetz has been posting that everyone's voices will be autotuned to sound good, because Taylor Swift's live vocals on the opening of Saturday Night Live were thin with little range.
Miranda Lambert sounded good but not great on "White Liar," likewise with Brad Paisley on "Welcome to the Future."
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 12 November 2009 01:55 (sixteen years ago)
Is there any big country act not performing on the show?
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 12 November 2009 02:41 (sixteen years ago)
Look, there's Kid Rock on guitar dueting with Jamey Johnson on "Between Jennings and Jones."
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 12 November 2009 03:02 (sixteen years ago)
Taylor Swift just sang in the round surrounded by young high school girls singing along, watching worshipfully, or nervously smiling.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 12 November 2009 03:11 (sixteen years ago)
Anybody else watch any of this or check later to see if some of it is on youtube or elsewhere?
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 12 November 2009 06:29 (sixteen years ago)
Taylor Swift cleaned up in the award categories. Btw, while her vocals weren't great on Saturday Night Live, too many years of listening to bad rock singers and to punk rock meant that it did not irritate me, plus it was a jokey song about Kanye and other stuff so I figured she was purposely not really pushing hard. She used a Kanye joke at the CMSa also--thanking everyone for not rushing onto the stage. She's the first female CMA entertainer of the year in 10 years for what's that worth.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:33 (sixteen years ago)
Anybody else watch any of this (Taylor Swift thing in the round) or check later
Yes. Halfway through I switched away to Nip/Tuck. The LATimes' Calendar section ran an unusually grovelling/swooning hagiography of Taylor Swift in the morning, so after reading about 2/3's of it, I've really had more than enough of her to last a year or two.
Kid Rock, as usual, proved he really likes classic southern rock with the thing with Jamey Whathisname, but he can only barely sing, which plants him firmly as a novelty granted way too much charity. I suppose likeability goes a long way, sort of like "drinkability" in the Bud Light commercials. Yes, it's got drinkability, as compared to fizzy water with a fly floating in it.
Liked Brooks & Dunn with Billy G -- it rocked and had almost the entire ZZ catalog of vintage guitar fills in it. Musta been fun to do.
― Gorge, Thursday, 12 November 2009 17:16 (sixteen years ago)
I'm feeling pretty burnt out on country lately, so I skipped it (though given what I've seen of Nip/Tuck, I probably would've opted for the CMAs as the lesser of two evils.) Will try to catch the highlights on youtube, if I ever manage to get around to it. (And I may have the same excuse for cutting Kid Rock's iffy vocals slack, in general, as curmudgeon notes for Taylor. In his biggest hits, I swear, his non-singing can be very effective for me in practice even if logically I can't justify it. Someday I'll try to figure out how he pulls that off.)
Anybody been keeping up with these stories in the past week about how George Jones claims Taylor and Carrie etc aren't actually country, and should come up with a different name for the music they make? I haven't, but I keep seeing headlines on line about it. A summary would be welcome (though I'm pretty sure I'd know which side on come down on, not having cared about a George song for three decades or so. Though then again I have no interest in hearing Carrie's new album, either.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 12 November 2009 17:43 (sixteen years ago)
Their sure wasn't anything country about Carrie on the award show. She was so OTT, Paisley made something of a veiled dick joke about the effect of her hot pants.
'Course, Paisley was only country when he ad-libbed and the performance of his wonder of consumer electronics songs came off like Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers, which isn't bad but...
― Gorge, Thursday, 12 November 2009 19:19 (sixteen years ago)
The LATimes in nothing if not reliable in its hagiography. Ann Powers was unleashed on CMA to this effect. However, even she couldn't ignore Taylor Swift's affinity for bum notes in live performance anymore, all the more remarkable for her being in a setting where the women performers hardly ever hit bum notes.
Swift was "universe-shifting" in one sentence, and "off-tune, a consistant a characteristic" in another.
Brad Paisley's gee-whiz tune to the alleged wonder of consumer electronics was "an ode to tech-inspired liberalism."
No mention of the appearance of the Little Jimmy Dickens perv, Paisley's human prop for sneaking fat girl and dick jokes onto the ends of his records.
Tuscaloosa Ann, on the job.
― Gorge, Thursday, 12 November 2009 21:31 (sixteen years ago)
about the effect of her hot pants.
For those who didn't see it, came in the performance segment, where she came off a fuck-me lounge, surrounded by Weimar Republic-era dancing girls in black lingerie and nylons. There was a lot of pelvic thrusting and shimmying-like-snake going on.
― Gorge, Thursday, 12 November 2009 21:39 (sixteen years ago)
Xhuxk, I'm curious why you have no interest in hearing the new Underwood. There's no reason her songwriters might not come up with another "Before He Cheats."
That said, I got the album two weeks ago and haven't listened yet because I forgot that I had it.
As an aficionado of live Taylor Swift cover songs on YouTube, I will say that whether she's in tune or not is a crapshoot, but that she gets there sometimes. Award shows are where she wobbles most. She does have my favorite singing voice in the world right now, so hurray for the recording studio.
No doubt I've posted this before, but here's her "Take A Bow"; her pitch is in the same shooting range as the target for the first two-thirds, then wanders off, along with her faith in men, and this barely bothers me at all on a clip I'm not listening to every day. Her skinny wavering nasality delivers the song's bitterness far more effectively than Rihanna or Ne-Yo did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPeuqiDSCYk
― Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 04:05 (sixteen years ago)
(But iirc Ne-Yo sang the song in first-person not second, so the song for him isn't bitterness but embarrassment.)
― Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 04:12 (sixteen years ago)
Oh, and this is what I wrote about "Fifteen" in my weekly roundup (also talked about Rihanna, whom I've been talking about here, there, and everywhere, to strangers on the street and customers at fast-food joints):
Taylor Swift "Fifteen": Lots of this is obvious and wide-eyed, just as it intends; the events and insights are normal enough, less varied and restless than her real fifteen was, I'm sure (I can't imagine that anyone who is fifteen has no thoughts about, e.g., global warming and one's place in the cosmos not just in the sight of boys) but there's art in when and how Taylor places her observations. "You're gonna be here for the next four years" has the right mixture of anticipation and fear. Lots of joy in this, the whoosh when she sings "He's got a car and you feel like you're flying." But the line that everyone remembers, me included, what the whole song seems unable not to be leading us to, is "Abigail gave everything she had to a boy who changed his mind" - though what actually catches me in the throat is the next line, "We both cried," one girl's heartbreak directly transmitted to another. TICK.
― Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 04:22 (sixteen years ago)
Lots of good commentary on the Jukebox about Lady Antebellum's "Need You Now." Read through to the comments, where everyone who'd not previously heard the band had simply assumed they were emo from their moniker.
― Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 04:37 (sixteen years ago)
Xhuxk, I'm curious why you have no interest in hearing the new Underwood
Because I wound up considering the single a major annoyance (which makes me not have very high hopes); because I never return to her first two albums even though they seemed good enough at the time; because listening to new country albums is starting to seem like work, so I'm spending more and more time listening to old '70s hard rock and '80s electro-funk albums. Of course, if a copy fell into my lap, I'd probably get around to putting it on eventually. Though I've had a copy of the new Gary Allan album here for a week (due out early next year), and I haven't put that on. A passing phase, maybe? We'll see.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 05:07 (sixteen years ago)
Taylor Swift will, in my mind, always be from the suburb of Reading where I spent many weekends seeing the Dead End Kids, a seminal but formally unacknowledged band that had a lot to do with US glam metal in the late Eighties. They furnished many of the most volcanic rock 'n' roll shows I've ever witnessed.
So Taylor has always been been fairly lame in terms of what the region was capable of -- particularly in bowling allies in the Seventies -- with regards to high energy, sparkly strutting stuff. About the same as a singer as the DEK guys, certainly not better or worse.
― Gorge, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 09:05 (sixteen years ago)
I put her as writing a song or two better than Herman's Hermits -- on the order of "Mrs Brown You've Got a Lovely Daughter," "Henry the Eighth," "No Milk Today," but no cover as good as "Sea Cruise." Taylor is doing decent pop rock but nothing as good as the Monkees' TV show theme, Stepping Stone, Last Train to Clarksville, Pleasant Valley Sunday, Valerie, etc...
After fifteen years, maybe something as memorable as Stepping Stone, a bit better than the Porpoise Song, Tom Petty after "Damn the Torpedoes" and the big jangle, some extra points for allegedly being empowering for all US teenage girls who wish to sing along with her. Was there a US guy band that mustered the same past the Monkees as far back as the Seventies? The Rollers? I don't think so.
― Gorge, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 09:29 (sixteen years ago)
Lady Antebellum's "Need You Now" has become my favorite country single of this year. Maybe because my sweetheart is another state away..
― Jacob Sanders, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 09:34 (sixteen years ago)
Anyway, she's as overexposed in the way that only the US media can provide, a year or two after Miley peaked for the same reasons. Demi Lovato's fallen through the cracks and what happened to the Wreckers?
― Gorge, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 09:35 (sixteen years ago)
xp So anyway what's kind of weird is that my (at least temporary) tiring of listening to country has bizarrely coincided with my move to Texas (albeit alt-country Austin). Which means that it's very possible that the most country-obssessed period of my life might well wind up being the time I lived in New York! Figure that out. Maybe I'm as contrarian as people say I am, and I just don't know it.
Anyway. Some Metal Mike Saunders stuff on proto-Taylor 1999 teen-pop country, which he posted, um, somewhere (Myspace maybe?) then emailed out. Cryptic as usual, but as usual that's also part of the fun. No idea if the youtube links will work; if not, just cut and paste them obv(the youtube comment toward the bottom is one he found, apparently):
November 18, 2009 6:55 AM the point here (below) is that....uh...oh, that the 1964 barry-greenwich HOF writing team could have cranked out timeless hit songs for Jessica and/or Alecia that would have been remembered forever and played on oldies stations beyond that.
nashville 1999 on the other hand couldn't figure out how to wipe their own butt if given three hands and a team of "handlers." even after shania/mutt lange had written them an entire TEMPLATE on how to write/produce country/pop/rock crossover hits.
the Lila McCann "With You" video was pretty great (and probably LMc's best song) though!huhh, doesn't exist on Youtube (like the jessica andrews videos/embedding) -- WMG group are still doing their nazi-purge of everything that surfaces. there's two horror-show youtube clips of Lila howling live, but i'm not in the mood to kick puppies or throw kittens into trains right now. it will have to wait a bit. (her mangling a Disney tune sitting on a piano bench is a real wtf wtf wtf vocal, i mean the average 10 year old would even start yelling "stop! stop! make it stoppp!" flat/ sharp/sharp/flat, everywhere imaginable but in tune. and without any pattern or rhythm or reason to the tonally homeless wandering. i believe the word "TONE DEAF" is in the house here. (lots of famous singers sing a little flat; occasionally one would even sang chronically sharp -- Linda Ronstant mid-70's, painfully hideously so). (When Will I Be Loved / everly brothers cover might be the most hideous kill- me- right- now-make-it-stop out-of-tune vocal ever on a pop hit song, way past the point of simple pain). but flat/ sharp/sharp/flat, all over the place, even from line to line -- just doesn't happen outside of karaoke bars.
November 18, 2009 6:00 AM
Who Am I live/CMAs the entire performance of this was one of the greatest live-TV vocals i've heard in my entire life, chills-down-back crazy great
(1st album hit, lame song/ballad but sung acapella shows her very tight/nice vibrato)
= fabulous huge voice that Nashville totally wasted/blew it -- J/A didn't get even 5 first-rate strong songs in her entire aborted career ((and tw of them were on/from the first album, ie non-single title-track Heart Shaped World and You Go First (Do You Wanna Kiss)). fuuuck, retarded! coming up in the 50's, she would have wound up cutting at least a half dozen strong honky-tonk/hard country albums like Kitty Wells, Jean Shepard, and had the same kind of 20-year recording career.
November 18, 2009 5:57 AM Alicia Elliott ("I'm Diggin' It") was an even better singer and an even bigger Nashville fiasco (the completed second album never even came out) -- the I'M DIGGIN' IT album was one notch short of wonderful, and i still pull/pass on copies of it (out of the 50 cent bins) to anyone to this day.
the class of '98-'99 female singers, Lila McCann (after the pretty good first album, gold like the followup -- see J/A comment -- crap material and no A&R clue) / Jessica Andrews / Alicia Elliott -- is an eternal black mark, whatever, in the lists of musical crimes against mankind (mishandling of young talent being a big one).
as i was sayin
classic hard-country voice, born/raised in MUSCLE SHOALS alabama and (fact) influenced by the town's 60's soul-music legacy -- it shows up in both her vocal sound (unique) and phrasing. half country / half black, whoa and wow.
the I'M DIGGIN' IT album sold really well (but didn't crossover pop into the britney/backstreet tsunami that the videos were angling for -- the single itself stalled just outside pop Top 40) and the backstory of whatever the hell happened (that the completed second album was never released) (in-house label "reference copies" supposedly exist) has never surfaced to this day. both Jessica Andrews (who got at least to cut four? albums, each one crappier with lamer-material than the last. no, i only have three i think -- the lead single to no.4 didn't hit, so the album was shelved or not even finished) and Alecia Elliott are the great lost country-singers (incredibly young when their first HIT albums came out) of last decade turning Y2K -- they should've been Brenda Lees (with crossover hits) but instead Nashville turned their careers to shit (J/A) and worse, stillborn (A/E).
November 18, 2009 5:55 AM both You Go First (Do You Wanna Kiss)
http: / / www. youtube. com/ watch?v=eVMaLMnp4uw
(no embedding / definitely the coolest amusement- park-setting video ever) and I'm Diggin' It are two of my favorite/upbeat/fun videos of their era, or maybe ever
http: / / www. youtube. com/ watch?v=lBlDlodGkck (no embedding)
I'm Diggin It (lead single, w/"rock/dance remix" long version also on the CD-single, and great) (best use of colored I-Macs in a pop/rock video, by a mile)
http: / / www. youtube. com/ watch?v=gUneUGZfGRM
You Wanna What? (second single from the album) (15-year-old elliott co-wrote it, probably the lyrics)
YOUTUBE COMMENT:marcometer (3 months ago) i had such a crush on her (Jessica Andrews) in high school. her LeAnn Rimes and Lila McCann were the reasons why I had a small country phase from 1999 & 2000 when I was in high school. Now I just can't listen to country anymore, I'm just not feelin' it anymore.
oh good lord, Lila McCann. couldn't hit a note in tune if it was the size of barn and she had all day with a shotgun. wonderful sounding voice but one of the most off-key (outside the studio) singers EVER. "acoustic" live TV footage of her (from 1998-1999) is like bizarro-world music, vocals so flat she drove off the ditch, over the hill, and off the cliff in a tractor with no brakes.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:49 (sixteen years ago)
You'll have to parse out the spaces in those URLs if you cut and paste. Some have probably figured that out already.
― Gorge, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 19:05 (sixteen years ago)
Notable recent Hot Country Songs debuts (and where said songs are on said chart this week):
#41 Keith Urban "'Til Summer Comes Around" (best song on his current album, or at least I thought so the last time I listened to the thing.)#53 Montgomery Gentry "Oughta Be More Songs Like That" (which raises the inevitable question, "like what?" I almost don't want to listen to the song to find out the answer.)#56 Houston Country "I Can't Make It Rain" (clearly an answer to all the gross r&b and rap hits from the past couple years about "making it rain," whatever that means -- people seem to disagree on the issue.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 November 2009 22:19 (sixteen years ago)
Got my Nashville Scene Country Music Critics Poll ballot in the email a couple months ago. Curious what other people might be voting for. I sort of lost track somewhere along the line, I think, but my top albums and also rans at the moment (without going back and doublechecking their worth lately, and without probably having time to do so again before I send my ballot in) look something more or less like this:
1. Collin Raye – Never Going Back (Time Life)2. Brad Paisley – American Saturday Night (Arista Nashville)3. Miranda Lambert – Revolution (Columbia Nashville)4. Mac McAnally – Down By The River (Show Dog Nashville)5. Pat Green – What I’m For (BNA)6. Ashley Monroe – Satisfied (Sony)7. Phil Vassar – Traveling Circus (Universal Records South)8. Eric Church – Carolina (Capitol)9. Tim Carroll – All Kinds Of Pain (Gulcher)10. Charlie Robison – Beautiful Day (Dualtone)
11. The Boxmasters – Modbilly (Vanguard)12. Megan Munroe – One More Broken String (Diamond)13. The Flatlanders – Hills And Valleys (New West)14. Blackberry Smoke – Little Piece Of Dixie (BamaJam)15. (Various) – The Man Of Somebody’s Dreams: A Tribute To The Songs Of Chris Gaffney (Yep Roc)16. Sarah Borges And the Broken Singles – The Stars Are Out (Sugar Hill)17. Toby Keith – American Ride (Showdog Nashville)18. Rufus Huff – Rufus Huff (Zoho Roots)19. Buckwheat Zydeco – Lay Your Burden Down (Alligator)20. The Bottle Rockets – Lean Forward (Bloodshot)
Eli Young Band's Jet Black And Jealous would probably make my top ten if it hadn't come out a couple months before January 1, and thus be disqualified. Phil Vassar could move up or move down; it's not out yet, and I've only listened to the advance twice. Etc etc etc.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 29 November 2009 03:48 (sixteen years ago)
Er... actually, got the ballot in the email a couple days ago, not months. Thinking about these ones below for reissues, though all but one probably stretches the definiton of "country" (and that one actually stretches the definition of "reissue," but the ballot defines a reissue as "any album where at least 50% of the performances are more than five years old," so the Headhunters definitely qualify):
1. Richard Thompson – Walking On A Wire Discs One And Two (Shout! Factory promo reissue)2. Kentucky Headhunters – Live/Agora Ballroom Cleveland, Ohio May 13 1990 (Mercury reissue)3. (Various) – Winter Dance Party: 50th Anniversary Special: The Day The Music Died (El Toro reissue)4. The Scene Is Now – Burn All Your Records (Lexicon Devil reissue)5. 16 Horsepower – Secret South (Alternative Tentacles reissue)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 29 November 2009 03:53 (sixteen years ago)
Singles. Probably missing a zillion of them.
1. Jamey Johnson – “High Cost Of Living”2. Love and Theft – “Runaway”3. John Rich – “Shuttin’ Detroit Down”4. Sarah Buxton – “Space”5. Rascal Flatts – “Summer Nights”6. Caitlin & Will – “Even Now”7. Lady Antebellum – “Need You Now”8. Toby Keith – “American Ride”9. Brad Paisley – “Welcome to The Future”10. The Flatlanders – “Homeland Refugee”
11. Taylor Swift – “You Belong With Me”12. Phil Vassar – “Bobbi With An I”13. Keith Urban – “’Til Summer Comes Around”14. Billy Currington – “People Are Crazy”15. Jace Everett – “Bad Things” 16. Krista Marie – “Jeep Jeep”17. Jypsi – “Mister Officer”18. Brooks & Dunn – “Cowgirls Don’t Cry”19. Sarah Borges And The Broken Singles – “Do It For Free”20. Eli Young Band – “Guinevere”
21. Montgomery Gentry – “Long Line Of Losers”22. Trace Adkins – “I Can’t Outrun You”23. Collin Raye – “Midlife Chrysler”24. Jessica Harp – “Boy Like Me”25. Brooks & Dunn – “Indian Summer”26. Taylor Swift – “Fifteen”27. Kenny Chesney – “Out Last Night”28. George Strait – “Living For The Night”29. Rodney Atkins - "Chasing Girls"30. Kid Rock – “Blue Jeans And A Rosary”
31. Megan Munroe - “Moonshine”32. Gloriana – “How Far Do You Wanna Go?”33. Trace Adkins – “Marry For Money”34. Lady Antebellum – “I Run To You”35. Heartland – “Mustache” 36. Jason Boland and the Stragglers – “Comal County Blues”37. Pat Green – “What I’m For”38. Miranda Lambert – “White Liar”39. Alan Jackson – “I Still Like Bologna”40. Montgomery Gentry – “One In Every Crowd”
Discounted a few Southern Soul singles and the Love Willows' "Falling Faster" from this list as "not country enough," though I might be able to be convinced otherwise, if anybody has a strong opinion on the issue.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 29 November 2009 04:13 (sixteen years ago)
Eh, Vassar album's not top-ten material, actually. (His transvestite single might be, but probably won't quite make it.) Also considering bumping Toby a few notches (on both lists) for dumbo politics and being stuck in a mediocre-album rut and for his best song this year being one he didn't even write himself. We'll see.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 29 November 2009 14:40 (sixteen years ago)
My own Nashville Scene Ballot. Reissues were tough to come by this year. I was interested in that Dolly Parton box set, but have put off buying it for now. The John Rich single probably would have been #11. As for albums, just missing the cut were Holly Williams, Boxmasters and Eric Church.
TOP TEN COUNTRY ALBUMS OF 2009:
1.Brad Paisley - American Saturday Night2.Miranda Lambert - Revolution3.Buddy & Julie Miller - Written In Chalk4.Willie Nelson & Asleep at the Wheel - Willie & The Wheel5.Elvis Costello - Secret Profane and Sugarcane6.Flatlanders - Hills & Valleys7.Otis Gibbs - Grandpa Walked A Picketline8.John Anderson - Bigger Hands9.Dailey & Vincent - Brothers from Different Mothers10.Phosphorescent - To Willie
TOP TEN COUNTRY SINGLES OF 2009:
1. Brad Paisley - Welcome to the Future2.Taylor Swift - You Belong To Me3.Flatlanders - Homeland Refugee4.Zac Brown Band - Toes5.Miranda Lambert - White Liar6.Keith Urban - Kiss A Girl7.Darius Rucker - Alright8.Billy Currington - People are Crazy9.Lady Antebellum - Need You Now10.Carrie Underwood - I Told You So
TOP FIVE COUNTRY REISSUES OF 2009:
1.Elvis Presley - From Elvis In Memphis2.Jayhawks - Anthology3.Leon McAuliffe - Tulsa Straight Ahead4.Woody Guthrie - My Dusty Road5. Randy Travis - Inspirational Hits of
― jetfan, Sunday, 29 November 2009 16:30 (sixteen years ago)
Assuming anybody's still out there, here are a couple country-related issues that have been raised on other threads in the past week or so; might make sense to pick them up here. Or then again, might not.
In the middle of a Kentucky Headhunters discussion started by George:
it's still kind of amazing in retrospect that the Headhunters actually ever had country hits. Weirder still: 1990, when that live set was recorded, would have been exactly in the smack-dab middle of their commercial prime, between '89's Pickin' On Nashville (which I've never heard) and '91's Electric Barynard (which is a good record, but not nearly as boogie-rocking as the live album.) Makes me curious about when country music videos and CMT actually may have nudged butt-ugly acts off the air (which, wow, might be an obvious parallel to what had happened with MTV in respect to '80s rock radio.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 16:31
Arising out of a mostly typically frursratingly ignorant discussion of Toby Keith and whether current commercial country is worthless or not:
Btw is there any modern country employing virtuoso steel pedal players and fiddlers?
― Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, November 24, 2009
Can't think of many current fiddle or pedal steel virtuosos on the country charts (though ha ha, Keith Urban and Brad Paisely are real good guitar players.) There are tons of crack sessionmen in Nashville, obviously; just not sure how much space they're given on actual albums. (Paisley hands over space on most of his albums to some old-style jamming. But I can't think of the last big virtuoso bluegrass crossover -- Ricky Skaggs, maybe? And he was a while ago. Of course people like the Dixie Chicks have crossed from the bluegrass world, though I'm not sure to what extent they'd be considered virtuosos. But I tend to virtuosophobic, so maybe I'm neglecting somebody obvious.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, November 24, 2009
toby keith's 'american ride' video
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 17:34 (sixteen years ago)
Good point, re: ugliness, from George:
In the hit-with-the-ugly-stick department, don't see how the Headhunters have anything on Zac Brown or Jamey Johnson.
And there were probably some unpretty rock guys who survived MTV's great early '80s Foghat purge too, come to think of it -- most obviously ZZ Top, I guess, though they learned to make a joke out of it. (Actually, though, I do suspect country still has more tolerance for ugliness than popular rock or pop have in the past 25 years or so.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 20:15 (sixteen years ago)
So I just figured out (after hearing it several hundred times, probably) which '80s pop records Brooks & Dunn's "Ain't Nothing 'Bout You" from 2001 sounds like. Frank has always said Londonbeat, which may well be possible (haven't heard them in ages), but what I hear now is "Midnight Blue" by Lou Gramm in the rhythm, and, uh, "Never Gonna Give You Up" by Rick Astley in the melody. At least that's what I heard when I heard it on the radio this morning. Next time might be different.
So when are other folks besides jetfan going to post their country favorites of the year here? I've been relistening to albums after all the past couple days -- Mac McAnally, Ashley Monroe, Tim Carroll, Rufus Huff (see Rolling Hard Rock for more new discussion of that record), Blackberry Smoke, Megan Munroe, and Charlie Robison all hold up better than I'd expected. Eric Church bored me more than I thought he would. All of which means there'll be stiff competition for the lower rungs of my ballot top ten -- a lot of those albums seem neck-and-neck, quality-wise. Also, I somehow missed including Those Darlins above; probably they belong in my top 20. Seriously doubt they'll make Top 10, though.
Haven't heard some of the albums that jetfan listed. Tried the John Anderson a few months back, and I'm a fan, but it struck me as pretty subpar; definitely thought his version of "Shuttin Detroit Down" didn't match John Rich's. And I think I gave cursory listens to those Buddy & Julie Miller and Otis Gibbs albums, or a few tracks on each of each anyway, way back at the beginning of the year, and they struck me as really drab. But maybe I should've given them more time; who knows.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 3 December 2009 15:19 (sixteen years ago)
the Buddy & Julie Miller was pimped by a lot of friends, and, yeah, it bored me too. Well-intentioned, etc.
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 December 2009 15:36 (sixteen years ago)
And relistening to Those Darlins now after a few months not, their routine is hitting me as more irritating than fun. Good chance that's also how I'll feel about the King Khan and BBQ Show in six months. At the permalink below I try to explain why I think their new album isn't worthless, after which George and Scott set me straight (and George points out that they're touring with the other band in this paragraph):
― xhuxk, Thursday, 3 December 2009 16:04 (sixteen years ago)
So yeah, as much as I like the idea of Those Darlins, truth is they just sound too tinny and thin (at least on record, but in most live clips I've watched too) to manage the wild and raucous stomping their songs clearly strive for. You could blame that on production budget, except that white country blues guys like Charlie Poole and Frank Hutchison (whose "Cannonball Blues" they cover) somehow managed to get a raucousness into their sound that Those Darlins don't --- even though those guys were limited to the recording technology of the '20s or '30s (Alternately, play Those Darlins' "DUI Or Die" against either Bo Diddley's or the Dolls' version of "Pills" -- which it basically rewrites. They're not even close to the same league. I wish they were.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 3 December 2009 17:05 (sixteen years ago)
New Xgau CG -- Honorable mentions for Joe Nichols and Black Crowes ("Finally the lyricism their South deserves--sometimes even the songs" hmmm -- haven't heard it, but now I'm at least slightly curious); Big Dud for new Skynyrd though he says one cut would make a decent Darius Rucker B-side (haven't heard that either); handful of choice cuts from Tim McGraw, Taylor Swift ("Jump and Fall" -- zzzz), and, surprise, Toby Keith -- "Ballad Of Balad" (which is pretty awesome actually, middle-eastern tinge on up, and would've been a "bus song" in earlier days) plus the smooth-jazzed eulogy for Wayman Tisdale (which is kinda sweet).
(Link will switch to a new guide next month, like always)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 3 December 2009 17:48 (sixteen years ago)
The 9513 is listing their top 100 Country albums of the decade:
http://www.the9513.com/top-country-albums-of-the-decade-100-91/
― President Keyes, Saturday, 5 December 2009 10:52 (sixteen years ago)
Looking over the list so far, I realize I have no Dale Watson CD's in my collection, yet I've always wanted to buy something by him. I've heard enough to be curious, but years pass and I forget about him. Still, I'm intersted in the 2006 album that the 9513 site ranks.
― jetfan, Saturday, 5 December 2009 17:46 (sixteen years ago)
Have barely skimmed their list, but I assume that'd be Whiskey Or God? That's from 2006, anyway, and it's the one I'd vouch for -- made by Nashville Scene list, and almost my Pazz & Jop, that year. I've heard a couple others by him, though, that'd didn't quite cut it.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 6 December 2009 00:39 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah, it's Whiskey or God. I think I'm going to go look for a used copy of it. Has me intrigued. Thanks.
― jetfan, Sunday, 6 December 2009 05:04 (sixteen years ago)
They've also got From the Cradle to the Grave on there.
― President Keyes, Sunday, 6 December 2009 11:09 (sixteen years ago)
I'm really liking Keith Urban's 'Til Summer Comes Around.
― Jacob Sanders, Sunday, 6 December 2009 21:05 (sixteen years ago)
I think it's his strongest single from his new album, which I haven't felt compelled to play much.
― Jacob Sanders, Sunday, 6 December 2009 21:06 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah, I thought it was the best song on the album, which I haven't felt compelled to play at all since I reviewed it for the Voice when it came out. The previous singles have done absolutely nothing for me.
In other news, I think I have my Nasvhille Scene ballot figured out, but I'm procrastinating on sending it in, in case anybody posts lists here containing songs or albums (or better yet, songwriters) that somehow have slipped my mind. Sadly, that seems increasingly unlikely at this point. But I'll give it a couple more days, I guess.
― xhuxk, Monday, 7 December 2009 03:32 (sixteen years ago)
I think my end of the year singles would go something like this.
1. A Little More Country Than That - Easton Corbin2. Need You Now - Lady Antebellum3. Living For The Night - George Strait4. Satisfied - Ashley Monroe5. People Are Crazy - Billy Currington6. Seven Vern Gosdins Ago - Darren Kozelsky7. Do I - Luke Bryan8. I Told You So - Carrie Underwood9. White Liar - Miranda Lambert10. Things To Do In Wichita - Mark Chesnutt
― Jacob Sanders, Monday, 7 December 2009 04:03 (sixteen years ago)
Also really enjoying these albums;Sarah Darling 'Every Monday Morning'Owen Temple's 'Dollars and Dimes'Kirsty Lee Akers 'Better Days'
― Jacob Sanders, Monday, 7 December 2009 07:21 (sixteen years ago)
Listening to Darius Rucker's singles is odd. Sometimes he lets Hootie out and it's almost laughable. Not that I dismiss his attempts at country simply because he was in Hootie and the Blowfish. In songs like It won't be like This For Long, he fits right in with lots of new country's family themed songs. I'm actually getting tired of this theme in country singles. I think something hurting him is the lyrics can be long winded. Maybe I don't want a song to spell the whole story out to me. I also just listened to Jamey Johnson's High Cost Of Living. I'm surprised at it's honesty and forthrightness. Does it get played on G.A.C. or CMT? A new outlaw country? In Colors was one of my favorite singles of last year.
― Jacob Sanders, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 06:31 (sixteen years ago)
It won't be like This For Long, he fits right in with lots of new country's family themed songs. I'm actually getting tired of this theme in country singles
And even more so, the whole pervasive "You're Gonna Miss This"/"Don't Blink" theme. Those three songs have been making my wife want to throw the car radio out the window all year because, she says, if they're enjoying the present as much as they say they are, how come they're so obsessed with how they'll be thinking about it in the future?
No idea if "High Cost" gets played on the video channels (which I only see when I happen to be in a hotel room, which isn't often.) I've only heard it on the radio one time (documented upthread somewhere, I think.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:59 (sixteen years ago)
So when are other folks besides jetfan going to post their country favorites of the year here?
I'm going to start cramming albums now; was working on a piece for the Las Vegas Weekly that I thought was due today so everything else got ignored including relatives' birthdays. Turned out that the piece is put off for a week (and I'm keeping my fingers crossed) but I'm treating it as done - LVW is owned by Greenspµn Media Group, which just laid off over 40 writers across a range of publications including the Las Vegas Sun. This is not good. The editor of LVW does care about writing quite a lot, so I hope something survives...
I'm skeptical I'll ever stay awake through an entire Brad Paisley album, but will give this one a chance. Played the Collin Raye earlier in the year and liked the voice and the sound a lot but wasn't connecting to many of the tunes. Will definitely spin it again. Love the Borges single, which sounded new wave, but the album stalled, but should try it again too. Thought the Holly Williams album had four solid tracks and the rest was blah but that might be enough to make my list, and I'll give her another twirl. Singer-songwriter leanings. Oh yeah, and there's Taylor Swift, whom nobody talks about anymore: I've had the Platinum Edition of her last year's album atop my country albums list as a placeholder - she's 3 for 6 on the new tracks, the best of which, "Come In With The Rain," has been floating around the Web for two years, the second best is an acoustic version of a song already on the album, and the second worst was chosen as the single; for Taylor 3 for 6 is not a good percentage and the new tracks are basically just an excuse for me to reassess the album, 'cause I fundamentally missed the boat on it last year, though did give it third place.). Second on my list is Ashley Monroe's Satisfied which was in the can for three years before getting an official release, and that was digital only. Might vote an EP of hers too, if it's this year.
Got scads of songs on my singles list, however, despite barely listening to country radio all year.
― Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:08 (sixteen years ago)
new tracks are basically just an excuse for me to reassess the album, 'cause I fundamentally missed the boat on it last year
I put her seventh on my Nashville Scene ballot last year, and she deserved better, and she was never not on the radio or in the media this year. But Fearless still feels like 2008 not 2009 to me, and I'm going to keep it that way. Which is unfair to Taylor since I'm considering Lady Gaga 2009 for Pazz & Jop purposes, but then again I barely noticed Gaga's exitence in 2008, so there's a difference. Also, Taylor is guaranteed to make plenty of my non-album Scene lists. So it's not like I'm leaving her to flap all by herself out in the wind. She'll do fine in life without being on my album ballot, I'm sure.
Toby's Wayman Tisdale song sounded better than I would've predicted over the car radio today, but maybe I just like smooth jazz. Also heard, for the second time, "Bonfire" by Craig Morgan (#5 on the country chart as we speak), which is basically an imitation of Jason Aldean pretending to be Bad Company. Still don't like it much, though.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 04:48 (sixteen years ago)
"Need You Know" by Lady Antebellum is coming into my room from my housemate's radio. Seriously dope song imo.
― LA CANCION MAS PRETENCIOSA DEL MUNDO... (The Reverend), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 21:18 (sixteen years ago)
My Nashville Scene ballot (which I just filed):
1. Collin Raye – Never Going Back (Time Life)2. Brad Paisley – American Saturday Night (Arista Nashville)3. Mac McAnally – Down By The River (Show Dog Nashville)4. Ashley Monroe – Satisfied (Sony)5. Miranda Lambert – Revolution (Columbia Nashville)6. Pat Green – What I’m For (BNA)7. Tim Carroll – All Kinds Of Pain (Gulcher)8. Charlie Robison – Beautiful Day (Dualtone)9. Megan Munroe – One More Broken String (Diamond)10. Rufus Huff – Rufus Huff (Zoho Roots)
1. Jamey Johnson – “High Cost Of Living”2. Love and Theft – “Runaway”3. John Rich – “Shuttin’ Detroit Down”4. Sarah Buxton – “Space”5. Rascal Flatts – “Summer Nights”6. Caitlin & Will – “Even Now”7. Lady Antebellum – “Need You Now”8. The Flatlanders – “Homeland Refugee”9. Phil Vassar – “Bobbi With An I”10. Taylor Swift – “You Belong With Me”
1. Richard Thompson – Walking On A Wire Discs One And Two (Shout! Factory promo)2. Kentucky Headhunters – Live/Agora Ballroom Cleveland, Ohio May 13 1990 (Mercury)3. (Various) – Winter Dance Party: 50th Anniversary Special: The Day The Music Died (El Toro)4. The Scene Is Now – Burn All Your Records (Lexicon Devil)5. 16 Horsepower – Secret South (Alternative Tentacles)
COUNTRY MUSIC’S THREE BEST MALE VOCALISTS OF 2009:
1. Collin Raye2. Mac McAnally3. Toby Keith
COUNTRY MUSIC’S THREE BEST FEMALE VOCALISTS OF 2009:
1. Taylor Swift2. Ashley Monroe3. Miranda Lambert
COUNTRY MUSIC’S THREE BEST SONGWRITERS OF 2009:
1. Taylor Swift2. Chris Gaffney3. Mac McAnally
COUNTRY MUSIC’S THREE BEST DUOS, TRIOS OR GROUPS OF 2009:
1. Rufus Huff2. Blackberry Smoke3. Brooks & Dunn
COUNTRY MUSIC’S THREE BEST NEW ACTS OF 2009:
1. Tim Carroll2. Rufus Huff3. Megan Munroe
COUNTRY MUSIC’S THREE BEST OVERALL ACTS OF 2009:
1. Taylor Swift2. Collin Raye3. Brad Paisley
― xhuxk, Friday, 11 December 2009 16:25 (sixteen years ago)
Will probably put Martina McBride's Shine on my ballot. Warm voice, good tunes, nothing totally outstanding but I like every song and the rockers rock; choice cut would be rocker "Wrong Baby Wrong Baby Wrong," co-written by (among others) Stephen Barker Liles of Love And Theft and Robert Ellis Orrall, who's had his hand in the first Taylor Swift album and the first and only Love And Theft album.
― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 13 December 2009 03:59 (sixteen years ago)
(Didn't mean to italicize that Love And Theft album; I doubt that Orrall had anything to do with the album entitled Love And Theft, just with the band. Btw, has anyone here heard the Love And Theft album?)(Which is called World Wide Open.) The other two writers of "Wrong Baby Wrong Baby Wrong" are the Warren Brothers, whom I think Xhuxk once voted for.
― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 13 December 2009 04:20 (sixteen years ago)
I have no time to read this whole thread, so I will ask a quick question. I like George Strait and I like Dwight Yoakam. Can you offer me 3-5 male performers doing similarly trad/stone-face material? I don't want anything even slightly wannabe-rock/crossover-ish (I've already listened to Montgomery Gentry and I don't like them) or suburban housewife radio crap (Paisley, Chesney); nor do I want alt-country. I want old-school shit of the George Strait/George Jones/Dwight Yoakam/Buck Owens school, but by younger or lesser-known dudes. Many, many years ago I remember reading favorable reviews of a guy named Marty Brown. That's sort of the type of thing I'm looking for. Got anything for me?
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Sunday, 13 December 2009 04:38 (sixteen years ago)
Try Justin Townes Earl " The Good Life" or Midnight At The Movies" But you might think of him as alt country, I don't. John Anderson's new album "Bigger Hands" or his 2 disc anthology. Mark Chesnutt"s newish album might that "old school shit" feel you want.Vince Gill's "These Days" might be your best bet.
― Jacob Sanders, Sunday, 13 December 2009 06:15 (sixteen years ago)
Though if I were you I would reconsider your feelings toward new country as just wannabe-rock/crossover suburban housewife radio crap. Go out to a honky tonk that plays radio country, ask someone to two step or waltz, dance to it, have a few beers with it. Hearing the music in the right context and it might open you up to hearing it different. Just saying.
― Jacob Sanders, Sunday, 13 December 2009 06:37 (sixteen years ago)
This is what I've got for an expanded singles list, and I won't have time between now and Monday to rethink it much. Best year easy for singles since I've been doing the poll; a lot of these are unabashed dance numbers - possibly are a more typical reaction to the Great Recession than "Shuttin' Detroit Down" is.
1. Love And Theft "Runaway"2. Jamey Johnson "High Cost Of Living"3. Taylor Swift "You Belong With Me"4. Sarah Buxton "Space"5. Lady Antebellum "Need You Now"6. Caitlin & Will "Even Now"7. Sarah Borges And The Broken Singles "Do It For Free"8. Taylor Swift "White Horse"9. Brooks & Dunn f. Reba McEntire "Cowgirls Don't Cry"
10. Miranda Lambert "White Liar"11. Jack Ingram "Barefoot And Crazy (Double Dog Dare Ya Mix)"12. Rascal Flatts "Summer Nights"13. Brad Paisley "Welcome To The Future"14. Randy Houser "Boots On"15. John Rich "Shuttin' Detroit Down"16. Jamie O'Neal "Like A Woman"17. Taylor Swift "Fifteen"18. Kenny Chesney "Out Last Night"19. David Nail "Red Light"
20. Dierks Bentley "Sideways"21. The Parks "As Long As You're Going My Way"22. Holly Williams "Keep The Change"23. Phil Vassar "Bobbi With An I"24. Collin Raye "Mid-Life Chrysler"25. Flatlanders "Homeland Refugee"
― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 13 December 2009 07:19 (sixteen years ago)
(I have a strange way of dividing things into tens. I still haven't caught up on my lost sleep from earlier in the week, I guess.)
― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 13 December 2009 07:22 (sixteen years ago)
x-post to Unperson-- As for Strait-like recent artists (or neo-trad, at least), there's Chris Young (The Man I Want to Be) and Josh Turner (Everything Is Fine). Both of those guys get played on the radio, but aren't going for any rock crossover. From a few years back there was Mark Chestnutt's Savin' the Honky Tonk and Daryl Singletary's That's Why I Sing This Way. Then of course there's Dale Watson--all of his stuff fits the bill.
― President Keyes, Sunday, 13 December 2009 12:56 (sixteen years ago)
Serious business Youtube comments on Jamie Johnson's "High Cost of Living"
26 days clean now.... this song means more to me than most of you will ever know....always been a counrty fan but this is the truth
i love this song it reminds me of my mom she was on drugs...
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 13 December 2009 16:32 (sixteen years ago)
I'm surprised at the enthusiasm for Brad Paisley on lists. He must have the most unintentionally fucked and annoying lyric of the year in his "Welcome to the Future" video: "Look around it's oh so clear/Wherever we were goin' well we're here" -- quick cut to idiot robot, two IED-maimed guys running on their spring feet, all of it framed like product placement.
If there's anyone who really screams for a cream pie to the face onstage and in front of the TV camera, it's Paisley. Big jangly guitars and magnificent airs swelling in the background. Glory, glory hallelujah.
― Gorge, Sunday, 13 December 2009 17:00 (sixteen years ago)
I haven't quite ordered my list of favorites yet, but some that might make it (and I haven't seen mentioned much here):
Chuck Mead- Journeyman's WagerDailey & Vincent- Brothers From Different MothersDarryl Worley- Sounds Like LifeDean Brody- Dean BrodyPatty Loveless- Mountain Soul IIRadney Foster- Revival
(Emphasis on much since I wouldn't be surprised if Xhuxk has already written on all of them.)
― President Keyes, Sunday, 13 December 2009 17:29 (sixteen years ago)
Just got Love And Theft's World Wide Open, and while I'm not one who concentrates on lyrics to the exclusion of everything, the words right at the start are rather inauspicious:
Roads, which one will I takeWith this world wide open, this world wide openMarks, which one will I makeWith this world wide open, this world wide open
Also, every day is an open page, apparently, though I'd always thought it was a winding road. (According to Google, everyday is (1) a saturday, (2) a winding road, (3) a holiday, (4) a saturday soundtrack, (5) a day of thanksgiving lyrics, (6) a struggle lyrics, (7) a holiday calendar, (8) a saturday torrent, (9) a lifetime without you, and (10) a thanksgiving song. Every day spelled correctly is pretty much the same thing, though it's also a saturday trailer, a saturday ski movie, and a new day lyrics.)
― Frank Kogan, Sunday, 13 December 2009 22:14 (sixteen years ago)
Man, go away to San Antonio for a couple days, and the thread comes back from the dead. How 'bout that. Anyway, "briefly" (or maybe not):
-- Seems to me the obvious Stoneface that Phil should be seeking out might be Randy Travis; Old 8 x 10 and Storms Of Life from the '80s seem to generally acknowledged as his best albums, and they're definitely the best I've heard, though his one from '08 wasn't bad. Mark Chesnutt probably a good choice too; sounds good when I hear him on the radio, but I've never explored him much. Dale Watson more trad than those guys, and more wildass when he's not just leaden; I like Whiskey And God a lot, but maybe not stonefaced enough. Clint Black and Ricky Van Shelton might be boring enough, I dunno; I've never liked anything by either of them enough to pay close enough attention, but George Strait fans seem to like them sometimes. Among young guys, maybe Blaine Larsen, at least on his first album? (I like both his first and second, but Phil might think him too wimpy.) Jawn Anderson blows all these guys out of the water on about half of his albums (couldn't get into the new one), but he definitely has rock tendencies, and when he's good, he's no stoneface at all -- he likes to laugh a lot. (Also worth mentioning that I don't think Montgomery Gentry's rock leanings mean they're trying to "cross over" to anywhere -- well, maybe to aging rock fans, but even Strait does that at times. And Dwight Hokum is sometimes less a purist or a stoneface than he's given credit for. I always thought Marty Brown was dullsville, though I'm not sure how much time I ever gave him. And I've long been on record as a skeptic when it comes to country stonefaces, so maybe I'm not the best person to ask.)
-- I got the idea when it came out that Martina McBride's '09 album was being slept on somewhat; struck me as...not bad at all. But couldn't get excited about much of it regardless, give or take "Wile Rebel Rose."
-- Never got around to checking out the Love & Theft album, for some reason, maybe because the non-"Runaway" tracks I did hear seemed bleh.
-- Though Paisley's "Welcome To the Future" was definitely worth making fun of lyrically for its entertainment-technology-means-the-future-is-here silliness among other things (and I did so both on this thread and the Paisley piece I wrote for the Voice), but damned if I've heard a Tom Petty single that jangled that fun or catchy and in the past, oh, couple decades or so. There's just something perfectly timed about the hooks; it didn't quite make my country singles top 10, but it just missed, and I haven't gotten tired of hearing it on the car radio yet, which is sure more than I can say for, say, "You Got Lucky" or whatever. (Which makes me wonder why people who can sit through an entire Petty box set that doesn't even end in 1979 like it probably should've can dismiss Brad as music for housewives, but that's another question.) Anyway, I've never been a huge Paisley fan at all (as perusing a couple years' past Rolling Country threads can attest), but his current album holds up. What the naive optimisim of "Welcome To The Future"'s lyrics always remind of, weirdly, is Donald Fagen's "I.G.Y. (What A Beautiful World)" from 1982 (though Fagen was imagining what it would've been like to believe the future is here in 1957/58, and Paisley doesn't even provide himself that distance.) Also, somehow, "Calling America" by ELO. And as dorky as I think a lot of the song is, it still somehow manages to grab my heartstrings every time; guess I'm just a sucker. (What does stump me is that I've been seeing Paisley's pleasant so-what ballad "Then" show up on best-singles-of-the-year lists, like Jody Rosen's at Slate. That song is eveything that makes me cynical about Paisley. But the album's still real good.)
-- Of those last few albums President Keyes listed, the Chuck Mead is the only one I probably mentioned here. Got maybe a couple songs into the Loveless before getting bored like I almost always do with her; don't think I heard anything on the rest of those. Here's me on Mead (basically, I liked some songs, but think he's a snooze of a singer):
http://www.emusic.com/album/Chuck-Mead-Journeyman-s-Wager-MP3-Download/11452405.html
Okay, I lied about the "briefly," duh.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 13 December 2009 23:51 (sixteen years ago)
Lotsa typos in that Paisley spiel ("Though" instead of "thought", noun and vowel disagreements re plurality and singularity, etc); oh well.
And I probbaly shouldn't be so skeptical about that Petty box (which Phil recommended on Rolling Hard Rock) without actually hearing it, but what I can I say? I hate box sets pretty much on principle, and I've only loved a few Petty songs since Damn The Torpedoes. So it will always be hard for me to believe the first three albums, his 1993 Greatest Hits CD, and my 45 of "Jammin' Me" aren't all I'll ever need. Might be wrong, though. I just think lots of country hunkapapas beloved by suburban housewives (Chesney too sometimes, and Keith Urban and Jack Ingram) do Petty better than Petty has in a really long time.
― xhuxk, Monday, 14 December 2009 00:02 (sixteen years ago)
Some Fagen "I.G.Y." lyrics, for those unfamiliar. (Title stood for "International Geophysical Year"; single went to #26 pop in 1982; Fagen appropriately dressed up Mad Men style on album cover):
Standing tough under stars and stripesWe can tellThis dream's in sightYou've got to admit itAt this point in time that it's clearThe future looks brightOn that train all graphite and glitterUndersea by railNinety minutes from New York to ParisWell by seventy-six we'll be A.O.K.
What a beautiful world this will beWhat a glorious time to be free
etc.
― xhuxk, Monday, 14 December 2009 00:15 (sixteen years ago)
I just think lots of country hunkapapas beloved by suburban housewives (Chesney too sometimes, and Keith Urban and Jack Ingram) do Petty better than Petty has in a really long time.
I don't come to country for Tom Petty; I go to Tom Petty for Tom Petty, and country for country. I agree with what Joe Carducci said about "countrypolitan" singers: "Let Frank (Sinatra) be Frank; you just be Gomer."
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Monday, 14 December 2009 00:36 (sixteen years ago)
Lots of old country LPs (and a couple chitlin' circuit soul ones) among the $1-bin finds I found in San Antonio and San Marcos this weekend:
"I'd buy that for a dollar!" Great purchases for a buck or less
― xhuxk, Monday, 14 December 2009 00:37 (sixteen years ago)
Summary of the weekend's force-feeding:
Mac McAnally album was short on great songs but grew on me as it went onward; liked it most at its sloppiest and bluesiest, though I've kinda forgotten its character; I do recall it seeming more antique than I'd anticipated (but my anticipations were entirely based on associations with the name "Mac," as in "Mac, you're standing in my light," or Connie Mack, or the swordfight between Macbeth and Macduff).
On the Collin Raye LP, loud fast rules, 'cause that's when he's closest to "Fast-Lane" Eagles. His slow and sentimental side goes flaccid, unfortunately. I'm not against the sentiments themselves, in fact there are some touching stories in there, even if Jesus ends up as too much of a buzz word; I just wish the flaccidity wouldn't accompany them.
Charlie Robison. Thought this was more consistent than either Raye or McAnally but I've forgotten its character so need to relisten between now and the deadline.
On the couple of tracks of Sarah Darling that stood out for me ("Whenever It Rains" and "Jack Of Hearts") she manages to sound weepy and tough simultaneously in a way that I find cute, but the rest seems to evaporate into the mist.
Brad Paisley: For the first three songs this more than meets the buildup it got here, what's special not being the lyrics particularly (though I'm touched that a country guy would write what's essentially a pro-immigrant song in which he suggests that our cultural diversity has improved our ability to party) or the symbolic synthesizer, but the sense of color he injects into the music, something I'd never noticed from him previously. Maybe he's been listening to psychedelia. But the album does go on for quite a bit, the best bits later on being when he reprises "Welcome To The Future" in a couple of different guises.
Pat Green: Hard but lite strumming, sorta reminds me of Dierks in its cheerful rocking way, and far better than the album of his that I heard back in '05 or so. But I'll need to hit refresh a few times to let this penetrate further.
Jack Ingram: Double dog dare ya mix of "Barefoot And Crazy" is a bit brighter and thumpier and better than the album version, but either version is Ingram's great track of the year. Album dull for its first half, but does effectively hunker down dark and hard later on.
Love And Theft: Resolutely mediocre, platitudes piling upon platitudes and the harmonies that worked so well when they massed together on "Runaway" tending to neutralize the impact of everything else. Huge disappointment.
Miranda Lambert: Gave this year's alb another listen and it continues to fall short, though is sure to make my ballot. Her voice is still a whip and she's effectively sly on the sly tracks, but her touch on the soft thoughtful songs has vanished utterly.
Willie Nelson American Classic: At album's start, with Willie's old wavering voice, "Nearness of You" is interminable, Willie sounding like he's about to collapse from frailty. But by "Angel Eyes" in the middle of the set those wavers are sounding beautiful again. I doubt I'll figure out what I think of this by deadline.
Dailey & Vincent: Think the singing needs to be more piercingly intense to deliver this, but the songwriting seems good.
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 14 December 2009 07:52 (sixteen years ago)
and far better than the album of his that I heard back in '05
Far better than the album of Pat]s that I heard back in '05, that is.
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 14 December 2009 07:55 (sixteen years ago)
Re: Robison's character; this link to something I wrote a few months ago about the album might help. I never got around to per se' reviewing either the Raye or McAnally (both of which I much prefer) for anyone, and probably won't get around to defending them here (though I talk about the Raye quite a bit upthread I think). Anyway, my Robison review:
Looking down Frank's top 25 singles, I do see a bunch of songs-for-dancing it had never occurred to me to specifically classify that way (partly maybe because "Sideways" pretty much still leaves me shrugging despite basically thinking it's okay, plus I still haven't heard the Ingram remix.) Not sure I'm convinced, though, that country had more good dancing songs this year than recent previous years (partly maybe because I don't two-step myself.) Need to give that more thought.
― xhuxk, Monday, 14 December 2009 14:33 (sixteen years ago)
Also, some briefs I hacked out (which I may not entirely agree with now, especially the gospel and jazz line in the Sugarland one) about a couple '09 albums that some people might want to consider; none came anywhere near my Top 20, but I'd say I liked them all more or less as much as I liked Martina McBride's album. (Scroll down for blurbs):
Bomshel Fight Like A Girl
http://www.rhapsody.com/bomshel/fight-like-a-girl
George Strait Twang
Sugarland Gold And Green (Christmas album):
http://www.rhapsody.com/sugarland/gold-and-green
(Sorry about the redundancy if I'd already linked to any of those upthread somewhere.)
Also curious if Frank ever checked out the '09 Eric Church album (since he had been a big champion of the guy's debut album way back when.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 14 December 2009 15:20 (sixteen years ago)
Yacht-rock-wannabee special:
Phil Vassar, Traveling Circus
http://www.rhapsody.com/phil-vassar/traveling-circus
Uncle Kracker, Happy Hour
http://www.rhapsody.com/uncle-kracker/happy-hour
― xhuxk, Monday, 14 December 2009 15:40 (sixteen years ago)
Actually, just replayed the '09 George Strait album for the first time in several months. Has some surprises (the Spanish cut, for instance), and "Livin' For The Night" is truly a beauty. But I can't imagine ever playing the album again. Would definitely rank it well below the McBride, the Sugarland Xmas, and the Vassar (just because I love "Bobbi With An I" so much in his case.) Don't much care about the Kracker.
― xhuxk, Monday, 14 December 2009 18:48 (sixteen years ago)
Ha, I'm going to vote for the Robison without having really taken in its lyrics or their bearing on the former Mrs. Robison.
Never did get to the Eric Church; rather hated the single, and it wasn't getting much enthusiasm on this thread.
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 14 December 2009 22:39 (sixteen years ago)
I like the Otis Gibbs album more than Chuck does; is relentlessly gruff, but there's beauty in the gruffness, and good-sounding songs. Probably won't make my ballot, which I have to finish in the next half hour, before I go out.
― Frank Kogan, Monday, 14 December 2009 22:52 (sixteen years ago)
The Gibbs album was released in October 2008, but got re-released in Jan. '09. It ended up at #7 on my ballot, but early on I knew it would end up somewhere in my Top 10. Among other names mentioned lately the Eric Church was a disappointment coming off his debut. Charlie Robison's was okay but just that. Strait was as usual good for a few songs, but got filed quickly. I've heard the Megan Munroe but didn't think much of it at the time (will have to go back someday), and I liked Sarah Borges' better. I had a chance at the Collin Raye via a Promo, but the company never sent it. Patty Loveless' album was a good followup. And what about the Tanya Tucker covers album? Not bad and where's she been? Also worthy are albums by Holly Williams, Levon Helm, Keith Urban and Todd Snider. I'd lump Snider's and Robison's album in the same category. Competent but missing something. Oh, and the Sugarland Christmas album is worth a Holiday spin.
― jetfan, Monday, 14 December 2009 23:17 (sixteen years ago)
Fwiw, in the past week or two I've heard "Feelin' Good" from Robison's album a couple times on the car radio here -- presumably on whatever station focuses on Texas country rather than whatever station focuses on commercial country (though I don't pay much attention to button-punch specifics when driving, since it'd take my eyes off the road.)
Curious what other people wound up voting for. (I.e.: Post yr lists!)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 14:13 (sixteen years ago)
Okay (comments to follow Don Allred’s CMCP Ballotintro: whatever other genres it may pass through and vice versa, country has to have a certain feel, but the main thing is a certain obsessiveness (no matter how cheerfully, how brightly presented) “Beat” as in “Man I’m beat” and “beatitude” too: blues and blue sky. Paul Goodman observed, “William Faulkner is Beat too, in a complicated way.” Nik Cohn’s mid-60s mention of country’s “elaborate sentimentality” also still applies, despite the no-b.s. inspections and reports delivered tolerably often these days.Top Ten Albums(just in the order they come to mind)1. David Hidalgo & Los Cenzontles (with Taj Mahal): Songs of Wood & Steel2. Carrie Rodriguez: Live in Louisville3. Hot Club of Cowtown: Wishful Thinking4. The Flatlanders: Hills and Valleys5. Patterson Hood: Murdering Oscar (and Other Love Songs)6.Willem Maker: New Moon Hand7. Tim Easton: Porcupine8. John Doe and the Sadies: Country Club9. Ha Ha Tonka: Nouveau Sounds of the New South10. Deer Tick: Born on Flag DaySingles:1. Gary Allan “Today”2. Toby Keith “Cryin’ For Me (Wayman’s Song)”3. Jamey Johnson “High Cost of Livin’”Top Reissues:1. Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys: The Tiffany TranscriptionsBest Male Vocalists:1. Willie Nelson2. John C. McCauley (Deer Tick)Best Female Vocalists1. Emmylou Harris2. Dolly Parton3. Elana James (Hot Club of Cowtown)Top Live Acts1. Willie Nelson with Asleep At The Wheel (Austin City Limits concert)2. Taylor Swift (CMT Crossroads with Def Leppard and other TV performances)Best New Acts:1. Sarah JaroszMost Pathetic (song and video)1. Toby Keith "American Ride"2. John Rich "Shutting Detroit Down"
― dow, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 15:52 (sixteen years ago)
Ballot comments (and some on albums not listed)mostly thumbnail sketches for show previewsJustin Townes EarleSo far, singer-songwriter Justin Townes Earle's post-rehab albumsdon't have the range (or ranginess) of his father Steve's own prodigalpeaks. No problem: the reflective alertness and hopeful smoothness ofMidnight At The Movies strongly suggest that the younger Earle is hisown kind of escape artist, thankful for the breathing room he'searned, and the floor plans he's committed to memory. He’s learned notto get too crazy, and thus distract himself from the female spirit whoalways shows up to hold his hand, then “leaves before the creditsroll”, on Midnight...'s title track. More expansively, on 2008's TheGood Life Earle is striding through honky-tonk neon shadows,thoughtfully singing to passing lovers and friends, while exercisinghis still-young lungs with that bracing night-life air.PhosphorescentPhosphorescent’s Matthew Houck loves his rolling psych-countryimagery, while he and the band also know their way to and through theend of a line, adding beats and syllables, even to a monosyllable, asneeded. Such sure footing on a cloudy staircase helps Phosphorescent’salbum of Willie Nelson songs, To Willie, find another mellow mentalghost town, in the dusty sunshine of lost love. And why not? As withHouck’s more complicated compositions, Nelson’s songs hum like oldhouses, still ready to be slipped into, as Phosphorescent investigateboth sources on tour. Tim Easton"Woke up this mornin' with a sranger in your bed/Those boots were haunted/The sheets were burgundy red." For Porcupine, current Joshua Tree CA chrocnicler Tim Easton re-enlisted early Columbus OH cohorts like New Bomb Turks drummer Sam Brown, who does extreme housecleaning on "Burguny Red", Porcupine's opener. Meanwhile, Marty Stuart/Lucinda Williams' touring guitarist Kenny Vaughn's deepening twang keeps echoing through discreet conversation with "The Young Girls."Tim Easton can get pretty denin-jacket folkie on some sets, but here be pacemakers and jumper cables for hiscompulsively mobile characters, who mostly fear getting "too cold tosweat the dark out", as Easton says of himself. Mainly, you don't needto catch all the sly-to-wise-to-blunt words to get the points ofPorcupine (cute little critter)Willem MakerWillem Maker's not much for burying meanings. They might poison himlike the dioxin dump did in Georgia, before he reached his Alabamamountainside trailer. He's got one song specifically about that, butit's as short as the others. Bare facts have to be quicklyre-gathered, re-twisted up the neck of his guitar, peeled by his slideinto images flying by, all around the rising gravity of Maker's "NewMoon Hand." He's also gnarling sonic sense through charredimpressions, somwwhere between Astral Weeks-era Van Morrison,backcountry Kevin Coybe and young Gregg Allman (more lockjawedeloquence than moan) Chewing the juice loose again, cryptically vs,the crypt, "Saints drink wine" and other info. He's singing his truththrough bad and good dreams: learning to "leave the fever in thepast," starting at the end of the line. Jason Isbell and the 440The Drive-By Truckers’ Jason Isbell went solo with Sirens of theDitch, where poignant, sometimes tragicomic situations rolled theirow gravelly grooves. On Jason Isbell and the 440, Isbell’s road-testedband drives further into the cloudy electric horizons of “Sirens”,still piloting by the lights of homely detail. Isbell’s restlesspeople are even more souled on stoneful memories (“She’s down deep inme still/Rolled up like a 20 dollar bill”), but the music knows theway. “Maybe I’ll flag down a car/I’m not going too far/And I’ve gotcash.” Good plan!Deer Tick (this is before Born On Flag Day came out)(see followupemail for that)Deer Tick is the tag applied by John McCauley to himself and hisband—appropriately so, judging by the tenacious midnight bite of hisrecently reissued 2007 debut, War Elephant” Points of disorder sparkthe leather-lunged lyricism that can harsh his mellow campfirestrumming into toasted constellations. Buckskin-fringed flurries offury keep the dust flying, no matter how persistent it it is (damnpersistent) Mr. Tick also knows how and when to propose that you“Spend The Night”: “I know you’ve heard it all before/But not from me”rings and rasps gently true. Ditto the Vegas anthem, “What Kind OfFool Am I?” It’s no longer a rhetorical question.Joan Baez“Every day that passes/I’m sure about a little less/Even my moneykeeps tellin’ me/It’s God I need to trust/And I believe in God/But Godain’t us.” “God Is God” sets the unsettled tone of Joan Baez’s latestalbum, “The Day After Tomorrow”. Producer Steve Earle seeks to keepthe Queen of 60s Folk Music’s quest on a solid spirit level, withcompact cadences and carefully selected songs. Further along, PattyGriffin’s “Mary” is “covered in roses…covered in slashes”, finding her(and/or Her) way through the story’s edits, somewhat like everybodyelse.Gypsy Dave and the StumpjumpersStumpjumpers are what some residents of far northwestern Pennsylvaniacall each other. On A Bucketful of Ghosts, David Washousky takes hispensive Pennsy roots and their distance along, while sharing his namein art (and "wandering faith") with an archetypal folk figure. Hesometimes gets a little too fascinated with old people, but his voiceand guitar, times the Stumpjumpers' fiddle and bass, slip tunefullyand thoughtfully through all weather, as "The right slips by, in themoving light/Of paintings and suppertimes." Is that political? Eitherway, "A black 'n' white/Violet summer sky" gently/boldly follows,bonding differences sensuously. (Stumpjumping indeed, by cracky!)Ha Ha TonkaHa Ha Tonka takes its name, and some of its duties, from a MissouriState Park in the Ozarks. Listeners get strange tours. "Buckle In TheBible Belt" bounces taut and twangy, through twists of fate andchoice. The drawl of "Up Nights" shadows a tired parent beating hiskid; the "Falling In" falsetto traces a lovelorn, low-gravity moodswing (at least). Their new "Novel Sounds Of The Nouveau South" upsthe ante and the amperage, wiring the weather vane into a lightingrod: "Violence in the crowd/We bled it out!"The Devil Makes ThreeThe Devil Makes Three make the kind of pre-bluegrass, mountain-bredmusic that traveled through vaudeville halls, carnivals, radios,alleys and less hygienic vantage points. On DM3's Do WrongRight,ragtime bounce and contemporary commentary ride boxcars with theeerie likes of "Working Man's Blues." The workingman's steadfast, evenmilitant, though subterranean musical undercurrents may be undermining(and/or guiding) this miner. Even on less inspired tracks, preachinessalways arrives with some generation of devilishness, often ramblin''round leader Pete Bernhard's sense of moral and verbal limits.Carrie RodriguezOn young singer-songwriter Carrie Rodriguez's new "Live inLouisville," atmospherically detailed stories are told boldly, asvariations of key phrases veer through the resolutely shivery deliveryof her violin and other instruments, including the evocative electricguitar of current accompanist Hans Holzen. Rodriguez also steps up tothe Loretta Lynn-worthy "I Don't Wanna Play House," and brisklyuncovers sexy subtext in Bill Monroe's magisterial "You Won't BeSatisfied That Way." Micro-epic outbursts and mercurial ballads neverchase the nice clouds away, or the slow male she's usually addressing.The Flatlanders"With a backpack full of yesterdays/On a freeway full of smoke andhaze/Where the power lines and fault lines double cross." From countrycliché, to California evening news, to righteous wordplay thateventually slips deeper, the dustbowl soul of the Flatlanders' Hillsand Valleys rolls on, through all zones. Alternative country iconsJimmie Dale Gilmore, Joe Ely and Butch Hancock, mostly writingtogether, are philosophical scavengers, poised and antsy. Years andmiles definitely (sometimes densely) add up, but meanwhile, "If timeis money/Space is credit/They're talkin' 'bout it all over town!"
― dow, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:09 (sixteen years ago)
xp Speaking of those last two pathetic songs on Don's ballot, here's something I wrote about backlash/tea-party country in the '00s:
http://blog.rhapsody.com/2009/11/countryteaparty.html?pcode=RN&rsrc=null.null&cpath=CNT
Also want to mention that, despite keying my emusic Charlie Robison review around his Dixie Chick divorce, that autobiographical theme really does not figure much, if at all, into my own liking the record either. (And I've yet to hear a better album by the guy, though I'm not sure how many I've even tried. Liked Good Times from '04 okay.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:15 (sixteen years ago)
more of Don Allred's Country 2009 comments:Deer Tick, Born On Flag Day:Great title, because Mr. Tick does have some of that ravaged bravura of book and movie of Born On The Fourth of July, but his testimony and attitude and cadence and imagery are closer to young Bobby D.s "Ma Rainey and Beethoven once unwrapped a bedroll/Tuba players now rehearse around the flagpole, " the combination of youth and what Virginia's Tom Wolfe ID'd as "those old jack-legged chants" from the mountains-but Deer Tick (John C. McCauley III x his band) are already way into Dylan's later and recurrent romantic obsessions, in a Southwestern Gothic way, also reminding me of Townes Van Zandt, who (as with Dylan) and McC's only namecheck, Hank Williams (McC studied the singles) had the tunes and catchiness as spry, watchful little beasts of burden for his words; plus, Tick's got this voice that's always waiting to squeeze through and erupt from his old man shit: it's the musical equivalent of the incandescent mcguffin found when the funky old trunk gets prised open in Repo Man and Pulp Fiction-we just see/feel the effects, as even Tarentino's scuzzers are awestruck by its beauty, and Repo Man's rats are beamed up through the smog into sweet nothin', by its mighty light. It's articulate, and when it does devour the form always belches the spirit of his words, but as a force of nature as much or more than poetic justice (which is why maybe it isn't catharsis for him, except maybe for the moment, but his shadows come creeping back, either way).So if I let myself get much into comparisons as high-concept formula in print, I'd say something like "Roky meets Townes," and indeed Tick might've also studied that two-disc Roky comp that from a few years back, with so much of Roky's folk-rock side. But "Flag Day, " his second album, departs from Roky re less grotesque and otherwise reflexive/refracted imagery, and his tendencies in that direction never did seem as compulsive as Roky's.Otis Taylor, Pentatonic Wars and Love Songs Otis Taylor is one of the most (one of the few) creatively distinctive blues singer-songwriters today. He adapts country blues, with a more regular beat than Delta blues, but it's an adjustment of that, more than a John Lee Hooker boogie drive. His phrases are repeated, seeming fragments of memory that gradually meet up and accrue, sometimes skewed or elliptical narrative, but the ear has to spot the spaces as well as the connections, just has to do that, when it works out right, as words and his shifting tone and volume move around his driving (sometimes shifting) picked and strummed rhythm guitar. This is the basis of the new album, his first collection of love songs (with some wars back in there, like the title also says), which, like P.Hood's new set, develop through implication of detail and atmosphere, and both sets can come to seem like developed photographs, more than movies. But the figure is the ground, at times, as Otis further develops deep focus via his own voice being joined by his daughter Cassie's younger and even more flexible, looping through the jazz of Jason Moran whose piano knows how hip-hop accents blues and jazz, here, as on his own great Same Mothers set) and cornet player Jason Miles; while the drum kit of Nasheet Waits is ground for African percussion figures, or sometimes vice versa (plus, occasional passing cello, violin, whatever fits the view). Even without Jason's surname and horn, I'd be thinking "Miles," not that Jason imitates him, but just this whole approach (which is also a less wordy version of Dylan's and Deer Tick's deep co-ordination of elements and functions: ensembles, yo, not entourage.) Can travel way into those musical snapshots, way into the travelling itself, but it's a train, not a showboat. On Patterson Hood's Murdering Oscar, the narrator of the first and title song celebrates his victory over Oscar and those who proffered/remonstrated re salvation, "I saved me, and life forgave me." He may be on Death Row or wherever, but he still insists, a little too insistently somehow. Ah yes, the well worn Unreliable Narrator device, but it works here.Notes stretch and trail and hold. He can't let it go, can't let cruel Oscar go, and vice versa. It' an Oscar-winning performance. Clear enough, but more subtle/subject to interp than expected, and the dramatic stasis that Hood evidently tends (so often) to go for on Truckers albums works here, the sense of somebody rattling his chains and shivering his freezeframe, as we're kept watching the figure's deep focus/fixation. Which is overtly the point of the next track, "Pollyanna", and Hood (with another surprise move, making seemingly unprecedented use of his voice's high end, by simply chirping) goes from rolling Neil Truckers doom of "Oscar" to Who Sell Out pop scenario over expansive, open-G-sounding Stonesiness, as Pollyanna rolls on(or has rolled on, since all of these songs are aftermath, ho get it Stones/Aftermath), having gathered his mossy heart. "It's a little sticky,she's a little sticky, I'm a little sticky too, I was just something stuck to her shoe, now I'll have to find something else to stick to." His characters are always doing or getting themselves ready or not to do the aftermath, and "Pride of The Yankees" in a third stylistic change, starts as a ballad raising a mug to Lou Gehrig, then without a blink to King Kong falling off the building, to passing mention of 9/11, and wishes he could go hide in the mall, and indeed he sounds like he's swaying along in an echoing mall with a hole (and a nice breeze) in it, talking to his little daughter about carrying, clutching "packages so shiny, and you're so tiny," and it's all the tenderness and fuckedness of and in the world, in him as he's somehow unsurprised(it fits with the fuckedness previously experienced, after all or a while) if in a bit of aftershock, afterglow, afterlife, half-life; the next sudden transition being the next song o course."I Understand Now" is shorts-deep in the midst of domestic battlegrounds, old and moldy and comfortable for the moment anyway, as the narrator gets some kind of 40 watt insight, and really the cumulative thing in just these first four songs also has me thinking of foo like "9/11 changed everything" and "All is fair in love and war" and how they're part of the wadding of changes and transitions, not that all his situations x moments shown don't have their own internal detail and framing distinctions/lifespans, as characters try to get creative in doing the aftermath on the train or frame or sidewalk crack, or playing in bedhead traffic etc It's all about their and their creator's wise use of familiar and strange elements, reshuffling or ripping or lurching or padding or jangling along.(Those last two just listed: "She's a Little Randy" is the stealthy passage of a cougar and the male person studying her, getting her number sympathetically and then some, as Hood makes good use of the high voice again, not chirping this time but like a little tight, mostly dry smoker's voice, with some rheum around the corners, emph by guitar, as he squints over his cig, and maybe drops it to approach her after that last line (steps out of his frame, as can be tricky/lacking in Hood songs) "Foolish Young Bastard" ruefully/hopefully jangles along with a banjo almost hitting him in the nuts, empty canteen percussion def tapping his butt (a bit envied perhaps, by the somewhat exasperated but unsurprised, family-type person watching him go) then "Heavy and Hanging" and "Walking Around Sense" are expressive but stuck inside a way too familiar Neil Truckers doom (which the title song redeemed and "Range War" took to maybe non-doom,[as expressed in playing]more about rich shifting currrents of tenderness/fuckedness and war again) Like "Heavy and Hanging" and "Walking Around Sense" heavy up because he thought he needed something between "Foolish Young Bastard" and the young heart who sings about writing you a love song in the "Back of a Bible" (not to be eveel, but cos "there were some blank pages") A shuffle mainly suggesting white boys of 50s til builds seamlessly to a solo that obliterates the pro forma of the past two tracks, and in call and response with other instruments. This final passage is brief but deep, like the best bits of most of the other songs ("Screwtopia" trails the afterglow through basically obvious faster/softer recurrences, and makes it work; makes me think of the traces of "Grandaddy" 's innocently plotted future and "Belvedere" 's twisted past, and the other character's traces, notions, smoke) Didn't think he'd carry a whole album without other writers, but he does, given that it's also got a couple of duds like Truckers albums, and most of the Truckers are here, and that certainly helps, and he's seamlessly joining a set of songs from 1994 to much more recent ones (each set or subset benefitting from proximity to the others, for the most part) with accumulated experience as writer, player etc as well as other aspects of life, and that comes across in the adjustments, inclu disruptive moves, within the plot lines and performances of songs (Oh yeah, this album also features really apt and startling use of piano which he says startled him too)
― dow, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 16:18 (sixteen years ago)
1. Taylor Swift - Fearless (Platinum Edition)2. Ashley Monroe - Satisfied3. Martina McBride - Shine4. Pat Green - What I'm For5. Brad Paisley - American Saturday Night6. Miranda Lambert - Revolution7. Collin Raye - Never Going Back8. Holly Williams - Here With Me9. Willie Nelson - American Classic10. Charlie Robison - Beautiful Day
1. Love And Theft "Runaway"2. Jamey Johnson "High Cost Of Living"3. Taylor Swift "You Belong With Me"4. Sarah Buxton "Space"5. Lady Antebellum "Need You Now"6. Caitlin & Will "Even Now"7. Sarah Borges And The Broken Singles "Do It For Free"8. Taylor Swift "White Horse"9. Brooks & Dunn f. Reba McEntire "Cowgirls Don't Cry"10. Jack Ingram "Barefoot & Crazy (Double Dog Dare Ya Mix)"
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COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST MALE VOCALISTS OF 2009:
1. Ronnie Dunn2. Toby Keith3. Jamey Johnson
COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST FEMALE VOCALISTS OF 2009:
1. Taylor Swift2. Miranda Lambert3. Jamie O'Neal
COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST LIVE ACTS OF 2009:
COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST SONGWRITERS OF 2009:
1. Taylor Swift2. Ashley Monroe3. Brad Paisley
1. Brooks & Dunn2. Caitlin & Will3. --
COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST NEW ACTS OF 2009:
COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST OVERALL ACTS OF 2009:
1. Taylor Swift2. Ashley Monroe3. --
― Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 18:42 (sixteen years ago)
I don't stand by my albums list, since most everything after the McBride has only four or five tracks I like more than a little. Might possibly have rated Collin Raye as high as three, for being the most interesting, but then my ballot would have looked too much like Xhuxk's. And I wouldn't normally have rated something so non-audacious as the McBride as high as three, except I was fed up with everyone else's inconsistency. Wish I'd gotten around to listening to more of what the rest of you recommended.
― Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 18:47 (sixteen years ago)
Actually, the Pat Green album is pretty good from start to finish. I never got around to the Dierks Bentley album, but Green did well in the congenial rocker category. Has more sociological restlessness than Dierks.
― Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 18:55 (sixteen years ago)
My ballot ended up looking like this. Skipped a few categories that I just couldn't decide on an answer for -
1. Brad Paisley, American Saturday Night2. Those Darlins, Those Darlins3. Keith Urban, Defying Gravity4. Miranda Lambert, Revolution5. Carolyn Mark and NQ Arbuckle, Let's Just Stay Here6. Ashley Monroe, Satisfied7. Luke Bryan, Doin My Thing8. Eric Church, Carolina9. George Strait, Twang10. Willie Nelson and Asleep at the Wheel, Willie and the Wheel
1. Taylor Swift "You Belong With Me"2. Living For The Night - George Strait3. Jamey Johnson, "High Cost Of Living 4. Brad Paisley "Welcome To The Future"5. Keith Urban, "Sweet Thing"6. Love And Theft "Runaway"7. Kenny Chesney "Out Last Night"8. Do I - Luke Bryan 9. Caitlin & Will "Even Now"10. Toby Keith, "Lost You Anyway"
1. Brad Paisley2. Jamey Johnson3. Keith Urban
1. Taylor Swift2. Miranda Lambert3. Ashley Monroe
1. Taylor Swift2. Brad Paisley3. Jamey Johnson
― erasingclouds, Thursday, 17 December 2009 13:00 (sixteen years ago)
o god should i get the taylor swift album?
― Do you love me now? (surm), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 15:20 (sixteen years ago)
Yes.
Judging from Frank's comments, I probably used his all-albums-are-EPs rule on my Nashville Scene list more than he did this year.
Jon Caramanica put Justin Moore's debut album in his '09 top 10 in the NY Times. That's the guy who did the country back-that-thing-up song (with country back-that-azz-up video) last year, if nobody remembers. The single or two by him I heard since went in one ear and out the other, but I'm curious now if anybody else heard the album. (I didn't.)
Caramanica's writeup:
9. JUSTIN MOORE (The Valory Music Company) Modest but by no means dull, the debut album by the Arkansas country singer Justin Moore has traditionalist bones holding together bursts of wry cowboy humor and eyebrow-raising salaciousness. Mr. Moore isn’t winking while playing to type; rather he realizes that there were always winks to begin with, and everyone else has forgotten.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/20/arts/music/20caramanica.html
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 22:51 (sixteen years ago)
He also calls San Fran indie band Girls' album "country rock," which makes no sense judging from the song or two I've heard (neither did the comparisons people make to Elvis Costello and Graham Parker), but maybe it still excuses linking to the Singles Jukebox review of "Laura" here:
http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=1506
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 22:58 (sixteen years ago)
He also calls San Fran indie band Girls' album "country rock," which makes no sense judging from the song or two I've heard (neither did the comparisons people make to Elvis Costello and Graham Parker), but maybe it still excuses linking to the Singles Jukebox review of "Laura" here
I like that band a lot, and I like country music a lot, and I hear no connection. For what it's worh I hear no Costello or Parker in them either. It's more dream-pop/JAMC/shoegaze from people who also listen to a lot of '50s vocal pop, teen idol ballads, Beach Boys, etc
― erasingclouds, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 23:41 (sixteen years ago)
A poll:
2009 country #1's
On which thread an interesting question is raised:
is the co-ed country band (sugarland, lady antebellum) a relatively new phenomenon? i'm trying to think of precedents. i guess it's an outgrowth of the long history of duets, but in terms of an act that has both men and women i can't think of many.
― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 20:23
xp Well, Trick Pony was one. And now there's also Little Big Town, and Gloriana, and Jypsi. (Probably plenty of others, if I give it a little more thought.) But yeah, there do seem to be more out there lately.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 20:30
And actually, obviously, the co-ed country band is a tradition dating back to the Carter Family, and there have definitely been family acts in recent decades (for instance, The Whites). Curious whether anybody else has opinions on whether it's a legit trend or not now in Nashville.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 23 December 2009 01:13 (sixteen years ago)
I finally tracked down a copy of Bobbie Cryner today in a second-hand store, an album I haven't heard in 15 years. Holy...if there was a better trad country record made in the 90s, I'm unaware of it. "He Feels Guilty" and "I Think It's Over Now" are devastating, and the Buck Owens cover with Dwight beats the original.
― ρεμπετις, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 05:01 (sixteen years ago)
I've never heard it, but Xgau was a big fan:
http://robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?name=bobbie+cryner
Speaking of '90s country, I killed that country #1s thread last week with the following spiel, which will probably prove just as un-fruitful here, but then again maybe somebody'll have thoughts on it, who knows:
I honestly think what's missing in most discussions of the evolution of Nashville country (and this goes for me too) is that there's this huge historical gap where almost nobody who writes about rock and pop music was keeping tabs on the stuff. Outside of Garth and Shania and a couple others, I'm still fairly clueless about most pop-country from the mid '80s to early '00s -- when, I assume, lotsa evolving was going on.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, December 23, 2009 10:07 AM
I sort of have this theory that Garth and Shania figured out how to make real consistent and varied country albums, like rock bands had been making for years (and had pretty much stopped making my the mid '90s to my ears), and once they did it the rest of Nashville caught on. Which would explain why so many of my favorite '00s albums were country. But it might be just as likely that great pop-country albums were being made in the late '80s and '90s, and I just wasn't hearing them. Not that I've had much luck trying to figure out what they were.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, December 23, 2009 10:17 AM
I mean, obviously there were great country albums before Garth and Shania, going back to the neo-trad and outlaw eras and way beyond. But I definitely got the idea in the '90s (or maybe at least starting back with the urban cowboys in the early '80s?) that even most albums with a catchy single or two on them just tossed in nine perfunctory filler tracks and got it over with. But somehow, for me anyway, that changed. (One change may have been that country started sounding more like the hard rock I grew up with, but going back now and listening to say the Kentucky Headhunters, I'm wondering if that was new in the '00s at all.)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, December 23, 2009 10:23 AM
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 05:09 (sixteen years ago)
I'd pretty much concur with your theory; I'm having a tough time thinking of 90s pop-country albums where any artist's personality was allowed to shine beyond a couple of tracks. Terri Clark, Martina McBride maybe. A lot of that had to do with the more restrictive (i.e. "uplifting") lyrical themes that radio was demanding.
― ρεμπετις, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 05:29 (sixteen years ago)
Justin Moore self titled album reminds me of Gary Allen or Jason Aldean in many ways, except for the lack of any ballads. Almost every song is an assertion of County livin'. Not enough songs about broken hearts for me.
― Jacob Sanders, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 06:19 (sixteen years ago)
County=country
― Jacob Sanders, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 06:20 (sixteen years ago)
Not that affriming ones country roots and way of life in music is a bad thing, but a whole album gets tiring.
― Jacob Sanders, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 06:32 (sixteen years ago)
Speaking of '90s country, I killed that country #1s thread last week with the following spiel, which will probably prove just as un-fruitful here
Yes, I predict that this thread has but a few days to live.
there's this huge historical gap where almost nobody who writes about rock and pop music was keeping tabs on the stuff. Outside of Garth and Shania and a couple others, I'm still fairly clueless about most pop-country from the mid '80s to early '00s -- when, I assume, lotsa evolving was going on.
Yes. John Morthland's Best of Country Music Guide came out in 1984, and I don't know if any other rock critic tried anything like it subsequently, or what or where Morthland's been writing since then. His book is very good, but on the evidence of it he's probably not the one to appreciate current Nashville trends.
There's a Rough Guide to Country Music that was published in 2000, according to Amazon, and the All Music Guide to Country was in 2003. I've never looked at them. You might want to ask Doug Simmons or Eric Weisbard, since they'd have been keeping their eye out for people to potentially write for the Voice about country in the late '80s and late '90s, respectively. One of the first things Doug asked me when I started submitting stuff to him in 1987 was whether I listened to country.
My source in the '90s for what was happening in country was you, basically, since I wasn't spending much time listen to country radio.
― Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 07:21 (sixteen years ago)
wasn't spending much time listening to country radio, that is
― Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 07:23 (sixteen years ago)
Anthony Easton posted his overall ten bests on my livejournal, included only two country items, Lyle Lovett's Natural Forces album and Corb Lund's "Losin' Lately Gambler" single, which I assume is an alternate title for "A Game In Town Like This," which looks like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITyn99Oa3u4
Seems more bohemian folkie than actual country, which is to say that its aural mannerisms peg it as literary even before I pay attention to the words. Of course, some of my favorite Bob Dylans and Holy Modal Rounders were bohemian folkies at some point in their careers, but it's not a style that's held on for me, even if a Charlie Robison or a James McMurtry makes my country ballot every now and then. Here's what Anthony wrote about the Lund song:
Corb continues to add to the narratives of classic country--as the last album worked through new soldier songs and new horse songs, this one has farm songs and card songs. This is the card song, and it is about betting on home and therefore need to bet from going away. Aside from the world weariness, the sadness of the vocals, the perfect guitar work, there is a processing of the domestic and local over the international. He lives in Alberta, which is losing money and people, and where the money is disappearing, and where the recession is hard. Best song about the disaster of imminent poverty.
― Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 07:44 (sixteen years ago)
Anthony had talked a little bit about Corb Lund a few months back, in the comments section of some folkie's Singles Jukebox review (actually, one wherein Frank had inquired of Anthony about current folk music, but the singer's name slips my mind.) I got the Lund album in the mail, and really wanted to like it -- the idea of some guy (allegedly, anyway) detailing the minutiae of hardscrabble Alberta and Saskatchewan life in his songs really appeals to, uh, the Northern Exposure fan in me I guess. Problem is, as far as I can tell, like so many recent alt-country folkies who may well me good songwriters in recent years before him, Lund sings with no expression whatsoever. He just sounds really wooden and dry -- to my ears, anyway. And like so many good alt-country folkie songwriters with bored demo-singer voices before him, maybe I should have given him more of a chance. I liked a Si Kahn album once, after all. (At least for a year or two, anyway -- Home, from 1979; Doing My Job from 1982 also said to be worthwhile.) But more likely, I'll never latch onto a Corb Lund song until somebody from Nashville covers one. Which may be a doggone shame.
I'm having a tough time thinking of 90s pop-country albums where any artist's personality was allowed to shine beyond a couple of tracks.
I can think of a handful, beyond the obvious Shania and Garth: Mindy McCready If I Stay The Night (1997); Tim McGraw A Place To Land (his best album, 1999); Collin Raye Extremes (1994, just heard it this year); Kentucky Headhunters Electric Barnyard (1991); maybe Joe Dee Messina Joe Dee Messina (1996) and I'm Alright (1998); maybe Brooks & Dunn Hard Workin' Man (1992). Toby Keith Dream Walkin' (1997) is pretty good, if not close to many of the '00s albums. Probably a couple others I'm not thinking of.
Just got into Aaron Tippin (who is basically a honky-tonking hard-country neo-traditionalist I guess, but still) this year, and wrote about him upthread somewhere; his Greatest Hits...And Then Some is really good. But I've never heard any of his regular issue albums.
My favorite country album from the '90s is probably K.T. Oslin's Songs From An Aging Sex Bomb (1993), another best-of. But most if not all of its tracks date from the late '80s, so it shouldn't count.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 15:14 (sixteen years ago)
One guy who wrote pretty well about country in the early '90s, fwiw, was Ken Tucker (the future Entertainment Weekly/NPR Ken Tucker, not the future Billboard Ken Tucker); he did a one-time country-only Consumer Guide in the Voice that I really liked, and wish I still had a copy of. (He was the first critic I read who actually wrote interesting things about Brooks & Dunn.) Also wrote a very entertaining lead Voice review called Country's Sophomore Class: Flex Them Neck Muscles, Boys, rounding up Randy Travis, Dwight Yoakam and Steve Earle -- but that was 1987, a little early, and those dudes aren't exactly "pop"-country.
Suspect James Hunter wrote some smart things about country back then, too. And in the early/mid '80s, at least, maybe also Davitt Sigerson, when not recording great Xmas songs for Ze. ("It's a Big Country" on the Ze Christmas Record, 1981 -- if you haven't heard it, you should. I play it several times every year around this time, and it always choke me up. Never heard his album, which came out in 1984.)
But it wasn't until Metal Mike Saunders did a roundup of CMT videos for me (around 2000, I guess) that I obsessively started paying attention.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 15:32 (sixteen years ago)
And uh...how good were Leann Rimes's '90s albums (and does her personality shine through those?) I've always assumed that her albums improved drastically when she sold out to dancier pop structures in the '90s, but I'd be willing to hear somebody try to convince otherwise.
Also, Dixie Chicks' Wide Open Spaces was 1998 and Fly was 1999. so those count. (Have never heard their earlier bluegrass albums.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 15:43 (sixteen years ago)
"...sold out to dancier pop structures in the '00s," I meant. (Albeit very early '00s, apparently -- Coyote Ugly soundtrack, with "Can't Fight The Moonlight", came out in 2000.)
Really like Confederate Railroad's 2000 best-of Rockin Country Party Pack too, fwiw; they had a bunch of ace hits in the '90s for sure. But don't think I've ever heard any of their regular albums from then.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 15:46 (sixteen years ago)
x-post Speaking of Travis, Yoakam, etc. Those neo-trad guys may not have been pop-country, but they--along with Clint Black, George Strait and others--sold a ton of albums in the late 80s. I'm not positive, but I think Storms of Life might have been the all time biggest selling Country (non-greatest hits) album at one point. Perhaps when Nashville saw that they could make as much money off of albums as they did from singles or compilations they started taking the LP more seriously. And Garth definitely started out in the neo-trad vein.
I suppose the idea of having artists put out an album packed with five or more potential singles became popular in the 90s because some of the artists were becoming international superstars and needed more time to tour the world before they could go back to the studio. The record companies could keep releasing single after single to radio in the year or two it took for a new album to be readied. It seems the norm today, but I don't know how many artists got that luxury in the 90s.
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 15:48 (sixteen years ago)
xp McGraw's 1999 album was actually A Place In The Sun, duh. (Title I listed above belongs to Little Big Town, eight years later.)
Also like The Tractors' debut album, from 1994. (Not sure where they fit into this. Seems like there might've been some kinda mini/semi/lite-Western-swing-rock revival on the country charts in the early/mid '90s. Which reminds me I also don't know the Mavericks' individual albums, but their Super Colossal Smash Hits Of The '90s best-of is good.)
In pre-'90s news, here is the very approximate order of how much I've (so far) liked a bunch of old vinyl country LPs I bought for $1 each in the past six months or so:
1. (Various) Motels And Memories (Warner Special Products 1981) (100% country cheating songs, from the mid '70s to early '80s)2. The Delmore Brothers - The Best Of (Starday 1975)3. Charlie Rich - I Do My Swingin' At Home (Epic 1973)4. O.C. Smith - Hickory Holler Revisited (Columbia LP, 1968)5. David Allan Coe - Longhaired Redneck (Columbia 1976)6. George Strait - Does Fort Worth Ever Cross Your Mind (MCA LP, 1984)7. The Forester Sisters - Perfume, Ribbons & Pearls (Warner Bros. 1986)8. Georgia Satellites - Georgia Satellites (Elektra/Asylum, 1986)9. Gene Watson - The Best Of (Capitol 1978)10. Jason & the Scorchers - Lost And Found (EMI 1985)11. Billie Joe Spears - Blanket On The Ground (United Artists 1975)12. Billy Swan - Rock N Roll Moon (Monument 1975)13. Merle Haggard and the Strangers - I Love Dixie Blues (Capitol 1973)14. Bobby Bland - Get On Down With (Dunhill LP, 1974) (w/ covers of Merle Haggard and Charlie Rich songs)15. Keith Sykes - I'm Not Strange I'm Just Like You (Backstreet 1980)16. Rattlesnake Annie - Rattlesnake Annie (Columbia 1987)17. Gary Stewart - Your Place Or Mine (RCA LP, 1977)18. Dobie Gray - From Where I Stand (Capitol 1986)19. Hank Thompson - Movin' On (ABC 1974)20. Gary Stewart & Dean Dillon - Brotherly Love (RCA 1982)21. Marshall Chapman - Marshall Chapman (Epic 1978)
Marshall Chapman and Stewart/Dillon went right into the "sell" pile; still on fence about the (presumably way past his prime, and not nearly Western Swingy enough) Hank Thompson. The rest appear to be keepers.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 16:20 (sixteen years ago)
Oops (again), actually that Chapman LP (on which she lifelessly interprets both "I Walk The Line" and Bob Seger's "Turn The Page") is called Jaded Virgin; just hard to tell by looking at the cover.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 16:25 (sixteen years ago)
And Stewart's Your Place Or Mine might objectively deserve to be higher on that list, except that I've owned its two best songs (title track and especially "Ten Years Of This") on his 1981 Greatest Hits (one of my favorite country albums of all time) for decades, and most of the rest doesn't leave as much of an impression as I wish.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 16:35 (sixteen years ago)
I'm almost positive Marshall Chapman was marketed primarily to mainstream pop and rock. I remember seeing that LP cover in ads in many places.
Produced by Al KooperAlbum of the Year - Stereo Review
It sez on her website. Not much kindness meted out by Christgau, even on the follow-up in 1979. Course that means they might actually, in fact, rock.
― Gorge, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 16:36 (sixteen years ago)
The one I bought sure doesn't. (Interesting, though, who Xgau compares her too: "a lot more confident, clever, and animated than such Northern counterparts as Ellen Foley and Ellen Shipley, but she's a fairly one-dimensional conservative compared to Pearl E. Gates or Chrissie Hynde." But apparently she was based in Nashville, and I'd say she sounds more country than rock -- though I'm saying that with 2009 ears, of course.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 16:45 (sixteen years ago)
One guy who wrote pretty well about country in the early '90s, fwiw, was Ken Tucker (the future Entertainment Weekly/NPR Ken Tucker, not the future Billboard Ken Tucker); he did a one-time country-only Consumer Guide in the Voice that I really liked, and wish I still had a copy of.
I lurk/skim this thread and I was thinking of mentioning that Ken Tucker was writing about country back in that period you mentioned, but then I thought, nah, they probably don't like the way he covered it or something.
I'm confused by your comment though in regard to whether or not he is still active. I thought he was, but maybe I've been seeing this other Ken Tucker? There are two? I remember Ken Tucker from way back when Fresh Air first started up. I used to listen to it after school, in high school. (Thank god I was doing something intelligent instead of wasting my time feeling up high school girls or going down on them in their parents' garage!)
Sorry to burst in as a "country hater" and everything (although one who will be voting for Miranda Lambert and Taylor Swift in this year's ILM poll, which is more than I can say for any rock acts).
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 17:07 (sixteen years ago)
Yep, definitely two Ken Tuckers out there -- (maybe even three or four!) And as far as I know, they're both still active (don't think I ever said otherwise, though maybe something I said was ambiguous.) I'm not sure whether the EW/NPR Ken still writes about country, though.
Trisha Yearwood and Lorrie Morgan a couple more '90s country stars who compiled best-of CDs worth keeping in the '00s. (Trisha's is more consistent than Lorrie's, but I was a big fan of Lorrie's '90s "Send In The Clowns"-bombastic marriage-on-skids cabaret-country wardrobe-closet ballad "Something In Red", and also her cover of Journey's "Faithfully" and her new wavey Roxette haircut. Didn't hate the albums I heard at the time, but also didn't like them near enough to hang on to them. But even more than Trisha she was clearly going for the desperate exurban housewife demographic, whose tastes I should probably bend to more.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 17:13 (sixteen years ago)
John Morthland's Best of Country Music Guide came out in 1984, and I don't know if any other rock critic tried anything like it subsequently
David Cantwell and Bill Friskics-Warren put out Heartaches By The Number: Country Music's 500 Greatest Singles in 2003. It's a good book, and definitely includes assorted late '80s and '90s records, and they make good cases for pop crossover throughout (though they have a definite grudge, it seems, against the Urban Cowboy era.) So there's that. I'd also be surprised if there weren't certain country critics writing intelligently about country; more like, I just wasn't following them. And country records -- especially the more pop kind -- certainly weren't doing very well in, say, the Pazz & Jop poll at the time. (They're still not, but they do better than they used to.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 18:09 (sixteen years ago)
Relistening to that Corb Lund gambling song from the video that Frank linked, I'm thinking his singing is not as incompetent and wooden as I implied above. It's...functional. But plain, kind of lazy, and not exceptional in any way. He sounds more or less in the same category as any of the (right, mostly folkie/bohemian) "red dirt" guys that I hear on the more alternative-leaning country stations in and around Austin --Jason Boland, Robert Earl Keen, Randy Rogers, Ryan Bingham, those sorts of cowpokes. If I heard that song on the car radio (and around here, if he was from Texas, that'd be possible), I might be less bored by it.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 18:24 (sixteen years ago)
Only '90s LeAnn material I've heard is the stuff on her Greatest Hits, which, to my surprise - it being a hits record - isn't as good as her regular '00s albums. I do like "Blue" and "How Do I Live" and "Can't Fight The Moonlight (dance mix)," which are the first three tracks on Greatest Hits. And as you say, "Moonlight" is 2000, and maybe even 2001 for the dance mix.
― Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 06:08 (sixteen years ago)
Amazingly (to me anyway), Billboard says that Taylor Swift being 2009's Billboard artist of the year (based on cumulative success on chart positions throughout the year) makes her "the first solo female or country act to earn the honor since 1997. That was when Leann Rimes, then herself a young country crossover star, took the honor home."
What's amazing about it is that I feel like I was more or less oblivious to Leann Rimes -- and definitely to how huge a crossover star she allegedly was -- in 1997. (This goes along with something Frank wrote this week on his blog, about how, even with really popular music, you can miss it if you don't make an effort to keep up with it.)
Btw, another '90s country star who put out a solid best-of CD in the '00s is Travis Tritt. I suspect he may have made solid albums in the '90s (and ones that presaged this decade's country-rock crossover), but if so, I don't know that I've ever actually sat through any of them.
I still have Billy Ray Cyrus's Some Gave All (1992) on my shelf, though. As I recall, it's not bad. I should put it back on sometime.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 16:25 (sixteen years ago)
Think I still have Kenny Chensney's 2000 Greatest Hits CD around here somewhere, too; he'd apparently put out five albums by then, none of which I've heard. I get the idea that Chesney and McGraw and Keith didn't really evolve their personalities on record until at least the tail-end of the '90s, but they were around for a while before then. So maybe the country audience detected personalities I didn't.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 16:43 (sixteen years ago)
I was oblivious to Leeann back in the 90s too. It looks like in 1997 she had 2 #1 albums of cover songs, one "pop" and the other "inspirational"--so perhaps she was that era's Groban or Buble (or Streisand.)
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 16:46 (sixteen years ago)
Also, Montgomery Gentry's debut Tattoos And Scars was 1999. And though they made albums I loved more later, this is still a real good one, and seems like their personalities were in place from the git-go. (First rock critic I know who noticed them was Joshua Clover, who did a short single review of "Daddy Won't Sell The Farm" for me at the Voice.)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 16:47 (sixteen years ago)
And duh, they just keep coming -- Speaking of Leeanns, Lee Ann Womack's Some Things I Know was 1998. Possibly my favorite album by her, though she got way more acclaim and respect later; definitely has my favorite song she ever did, namely "I'll Think Of A Reason Later."
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 16:51 (sixteen years ago)
I still pull down the John Morthland book whenever I come across some artist that I'm not familiar with. But even he dismisses the Urban Cowboy era (and that era was still ongoing when his book came out in 1984)and/or Country Pop crossover one. In a section called Countrypolitan, he says not to look for any info on Kenny Rogers, Alabama, Oak Ridge Boys, John Denver, etc. There is a review in his book of Ronnie Milsap and Eddie Rabbitt, mostly praising their early stuff but looking down on the Pop hits. BTW- the Countrypolitan artists he does like: Crystal Gayle, Anne Murray and Glen Campbell. But that section of the book is very brief.
― jetfan, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 16:58 (sixteen years ago)
There's also The Blackwell Guide To Country Music, edited by Bob Allen, from 1994. I use it as a reference on occasion, but keep it on a secondary shelf in another room for good reason. Anyway, I should re-read Allen's "The 1980s And Beyond" chapter (which does seem to include writeups of several recommended albums toward the end) in the next couple days, but to give you a clue, here's how it starts: "The very early 1980s were, at least from a creative standpoint, a period of relative bleakness in country music." Later; this is awesome: "An even more disturbing barometer of how dismal and directionless country's commercial mainstream had become by the early 1980s was the LA-to-Nashville 'bimbo' invasion. During those years, any number of modestly talented but nubile Southern California pop songstresses recorded half-baked 'country' records which, remarkably, made minor dents in the country record charts. (A California singer named Carole Chase even had evanescent success with a Los Angeles-produced LP of 'country-disco' dubiously entitled Sexy Songs)." Ha -- dollar bins, here I come!
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 17:17 (sixteen years ago)
hey chuck this isn't country related, but i asked my parents/friends for stairway to hell for christmas, and they couldn't find it. is it out of print or something? i'm just curious, so as to see if i could find it somewhere else
― subversive time travel (FACK), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 18:30 (sixteen years ago)
Loooong out of print, but isn't it on Amazon for really cheap still?
Uh, guess it's considered "collectible" now; wtf?? Hey, I'll sell my copy for $133.75 + $3.99 shipping if somebody will pay me that.
http://www.amazon.com/Stairway-Hell-Chuck-Eddy/dp/030680817X
I wonder what dumb people pay for the first edition these days.
Hey $40 (second edition) on ebay. (Amazon's got several a lot cheaper; I just wanted to brag about that expensive one).
http://cgi.ebay.com/Stairway-to-Hell-:-Chuck-Eddy-(Paperback,-1998)_W0QQitemZ341320660834QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20091216?IMSfp=TL091216217001r32542
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 18:57 (sixteen years ago)
haha alright thanks, i checked amazon after christmas, and they had used copies, but i wasn't sure how much i trusted that, quality wise, i mean, but they are cheap, so i might just go ahead and buy one of them. thanks
― subversive time travel (FACK), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 19:06 (sixteen years ago)
But they are not cheap anymore! That was my point! I'm not sure when the prices went up. It's not my fault, honest.
Back to hillbilly music -- there is a Link Wray album in that book. And sundry '70s Southern Rock LPs. If I were to update it now, though...
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 19:08 (sixteen years ago)
Tritt's best album was Down The Road I Go from 2000. It's All About to Change from 91 was his biggest seller - it's the one with "Here's a Quarter". Great voice, but I generally found his choice of material pretty bland.
― ρεμπετις, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 21:22 (sixteen years ago)
Actually, come to think of it, calling even Tritt's The Very Best CD (Rhino, 2007) "solid" is stretching it -- at 20 songs, including stinkers like "Can I Trust You With My Heart" and "Tell Me I Was Dreaming," it's about twice too long. (My favorite tracks, last time I checked, were "Where Corn Don't Grow" and "Lord Have Mercy On The Working Man.") I might have even liked his indie-label The Storm album from the same year more, actually -- even had a pretty great Nickelback cover, in "Should've Listened." I'm guessing he's one guy who may have been freed up to do stuff more in tune with what he's best at when he stopped having big hits in Nashville. (Kentucky Headhunters, this decade, would be another one, though as I said their turn of the '90s hits were pretty good at the time. And nobody's mentioned John Anderson, who made consistently great albums in the early '80s, and has made sporadically real good ones since, as a star and then as a post-star -- I assume Seminole Wind would have to rank as one of the best country albums of the '90s, though I don't actually own a copy.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 31 December 2009 15:59 (sixteen years ago)
Rolling Country 2010:
Rolling Country 2010
― xhuxk, Sunday, 3 January 2010 03:35 (sixteen years ago)