2009 Rolling "Punk" (or non-indie underground) Rock Thread

fuck yeah dudes its a new year.

OK, every other genre's rolling 2009 thread has posts now. Where are the "punk" (or non-indie underground) Rock posts? I'm sort of de-lurking myself (don't think I've posted on ILM since like 2005ish) to bump this thread up so I guess I should add some actual content. I've been listening to a bit of the Hudson Falcons recently (damn NJ influence). Anyone know if their newest album is any good?

i saw vampire hands do a stones cover set on new years eve, it was great!

Okay I'm trying to de-lurk myself too! But I don't have much to add to the thread so far. Does anyone know if Pissed Jeans are up to anything this year?

face accidents tour cd-r from late late 2008 is EXCELLLENT.

Red Mass (www.myspace.com/redmassfce), the band that most of CPC Gangbangs are now in is releasing an album this week. Mighty good and if you are not acquainted with CPC, get on that shit!

leftover from 2008, but the point stands:

TOTAL ABUSE

Haven't been buying/listening to much new shit lately, so I'm kinda out of the loop.

Right now I'm listening to Blue Sabbath Black Cheer, Endless Blockade LP from sometime late last year. I guess it could be punk?, but no, not really. Just a giant wall of horrible machine noise.

Recent Pink Reason split with Hue Blanc is excellent. Ummm...

Total Abuse's online shit sounded good the other day. They might be touring the UK in a bit, apparently

When for new Mayyors stuff?? Regretting having slept on Megan's LOLZ.

yeah i wish i had gotten that too!

my buddy just got the wavves 7" on tic tac totally, and shit is goo-ood. even better than the (sorta uneven, but great in parts) woodsist record.

Still not buying much 2009 rolling "punk" (or non-indie underground) "rock" records.

Newish Blank Dogs EP, The Fields, is a bit disappointing. Not terrible, but a solid step down from On Two Sides and the best of the singles. Couple good tunes, but mostly sounds like middling O2S outtakes. Similar production & tones, just second-tier tunes. I still rep for this band massively, but am kinda bummed that this is probably gonna hit more ears than anything else they've done, what with Woodsist hype in the air.

Coconut Coolouts 45 on Florida's Dying has awesome A-side, "We Drink Blood". Maybe too goofy for the Rusted Shut loving likes of ILM punk thred.

After much struggling, have turned the corner, re: greatness of Black Time. Did not want ITR LP I heard a year or two ago, but recent Skulltones 45 is fantastic, especially on long flipside "Doomsday Parade". Less garage, more indefinable post-ponk.

new wavves 7" preorder, although lets please all resist the temptation to turn this thread into termbo

http://www.theyoungturks.bigcartel.com/product/yt022-wavves-so-bored

i agree about the fields in a way, contenderizer -- i think im just very excited for the 2LP coming out, with its alt-vocalists and promised diversity-of-approach. dont get me wrong, i really really like just about all the blank dogs songs he's done to this point, but broadening the palette is a great idea. i continue to approve of his trajectory, and i bet ill listen to the fields in a year, and itll sound just as good as the hozac 7" or on two sides.

wrt waaves, blank dogs, teenage panzerkorps etc...

i like all these bands, but the whole "in the red" recording style is getting a little old for me. i like a lot of these bands and think they have good songs and wouldn't mind a more trad recording approach.

Been listening to Meth Teeth and Eat Skull (and Blank Dogs) this week and yeah I kinda agree, I like these bands and obviously the lo-fi aesthetic is part of that, but when every song is recorded so everything is massively distorted it takes away the impact.

That said I've been loving Born Pregnant by Drunkdriver and I'm Fucking Dead by Fag Cop.

When for new Mayyors stuff?? Regretting having slept on Megan's LOLZ.

I like that one too.

The recorder grot thing is weird. There are times (bands, records, songs, moments) when I think it is thee shit, makes perfect sense, sounds fantastic (recently: 1st Siltbreeze der TPK & TNV records, most Dank Blogs, lotta that Columbus Discounts), but as a blanket style laid over a whole scene, it gets annoying. Love Eat Skull, but a lotta their shit is just totally unlistenable unless I'm in the right mood. That fucking Skulltones EP, for god's sake. Same for Psychedelic Horseshit and subsequent piles of TNV. Especially frustrating when a really killer hook or arrangement is reduced to a bad, blurry blind-drawing of itself for the sake of aesthetic politics.

I like the Hospitals approach, where it still sounds no-fi, but you tell can tell they put some thought and effort into sculpting distinct sounds.

yeah like when dig yourself came out it seemed pretty awesome like real refreshing...and i do like these bands, love on two side a lot...it's just getting to be overkill IMO

im totally still ok with it LOL

Agre about overkill with the lo-fi. That Eat Skull ep really put me off getting the LP, actually. Maybe unfairly. Although I finally got hold of the Sic Alps record, and they've really got the fidelity right. It just sounds nice and dusty without losing the fleshiness.

That Eat Skull ep really put me off getting the LP, actually. Maybe unfairly. Although I finally got hold of the Sic Alps record, and they've really got the fidelity right. It just sounds nice and dusty without losing the fleshiness.

― gnarly sceptre

OTM, re: Sic Alps, but you really oughtta check out the Eat Skull, even in spite of me saying bad things. Starts out harsh (tho not as harsh as Meds etc.), but gets really damn good as it goes on. Not saying you neeeed it, but listen to it at least, maybe even skipping the first few tracks. Never less than noisy, but they often back off enough to let the songs work.

That Oh Sees 'Master's Bedroom' album from last year seemed like a good example of how to step away from ultra-distorto production and not lose the essence of what you had

^ another good example, though I think the previous Oh Sees did a good job of it, too (relative to Coachwhips/other Dwyerses).

i should recheck sic alps...i saw them live once and i was really hyped and i guess live it just came off as some sort heavyish 2 man bluesy stuff...like not near as far from i dunno black keys or something as i thought it would be...are the records weirder?

In that they sound NOTHING like 2man blues shit ala black keys, yeah, totally. Some older stuff is kinda on the fucked up folky noize tip, like whispy melodies under lo-fi J&MC gnarl. Mold weed crud etc. Some newer stuff is kinda On Sees-ish, with Nuggets vintage rock action mixed in for extra pep. Not really retro, but with toes in distant waters. Pleasures & Treasures is real good, as is Description of the Harbor, former with teh former sound, latter with the latter. Recent U.S. EZ kinda tends back to the hazy, mellow, but with killer tunes and lotsa detours.

yeah it just coulda been the night i saw 'em....i have tons of friends that love the shit out of them....

they seemed like they were in a sorta "jammy" mood and it just sorta chugged along on some classic rock type riffs for long periods of time...but who knows could have been an atypical show or something

Dunno about the live show THB. Could suck for all I know. I did see the Black Keys one time, before I'd heard the Big Come Up, and was totally confuzed about why all these otherwise normal-looking people were grooving to this totally average (and kinda cringe-phoney sounding) rehash blooze rock hooey. Made it subsequently impossible to enjoy the albums, tho Come Up is inoffensive. Not that this has anything to do with anything...

the gary war album sounds like a dude biting haack but trying to make music that still fits into the nu-fuzzy aesthetic

the album has one good track on it but also has this really bad cover of eye in the sky

I can't imagine a bad cover of Eye In the Sky. Or well, yes I can, but I don't want to.

Re: Sic Alps - just listened to their cover of Throbbing Gristle's United, not bad but not essential. I like "A long way around to a shortcut" a lot though.

Also new to me - Sex Vid - Communal Living - fucking awesome.

Anyone picked up those Zero Boys reissues?

I, um, got them sent to me but I have spent three weeks being in love with them. Meant to check them out for ages but this is the first time anything's been in print for years.

I quite like that this verson of the LP has two extra tracks they wanted on there but took off at the suggestion of Jello Biafra, even though he had nothing to do with the album - lol early 80s

I'm going to LA next week so hopefully I'll be able to get a load of this stuff in Amoeba. What's not OOP already, anyway.

This weekend I get to choose between seeing Finnish HC legends Riistetyt or Japanese noisecore "homage" the Wankys. I'm erring towards the latter at the moment (listening to their I Got Vasectomy demo ATM)

I was surprised to find a few different Sex Vid singles in a punk shop in Camden recently. Didn't know Camden kept up with that sort of thing. It's southeast of the station, just off Camden Street, but I'd never come across it before, despite living round the corner. You been there, Mark?? Also some Homostupids, Carbonas, etc. I bought the reissue of the Die Kreuzen Cows & Beer 7".

Would that be All Ages Records? If so yeah I've been there. It's OK but a bit pricey.

There's a distro in London that sometimes has a stall at punk gigs that has the Sex Vid stuff, amongst other things, they probably supply All Ages or something.

These are the guys: http://www.lavidaesunmus.com/PAGES/musframeset.html

Ordered from them before.

Yeah, it looks like it was All Ages. And yeah, pricey.

La Vida Es Un Mus is rad and cheap. I think Paco who runs it is booking Sex Vid for the UK this year but unsure how concrete that is right now. All Ages is something to do w/ the Household Name label if i'm remembering right?

Holy shit is it cheap. They have the Samoans and Zero Boys reissues for £8 each. Thanks for the tip!

wtf, the drummer out of Hacksaw has just been on BBC Takeshi's Castle rip-off Total Wipeout.

Caught Finnish hardcore pioneers Riisteyt playing in Henry's cellar bar week before last, and they totally tore the roof off. (No mean feat in a cellar!) Packed the place out with old-school crusties. Mad mental moshpit - someone was crowd surfing in a venue with about 18" of headroom. I went clanking off home with stray studs stomped into the soles of my engineer boots. Don't miss 'em if you get the chance.

Has anyone heard/liked NO TALK yet? I just got one of their singles today. They are from HOOSton and play gruff chuggy midpace mega sarcastic bad attitude punk rock songs called things like 'Invade Iran'. Also this single is on a label called ARSE GESTAPO 82.

its only february, but "mega sarcastic" is the best band description ive heard this year.

hozac singles club now accepting applications!

hahaha i was waiting to confirm that you heard before i blew it up on the internet

anyone from NYC know this band, Extra Life?

kinda reminds me of Make Believe, sorta...but with a little Slaves/Pleasure Forever thrown in...or something

http://www.myspace.com/extralifetheband

Isn't Extra Life somehow associated with Zs ?

don't really know anything about them but they are coming to mpls in acouple of months to play with vampire hands, so i will go and check them out

I think there's a Dirty Projectors link there somewhere too? A couple of people have really talked those guys up to me, not fully feeling it but I appreciate it's not an instant hit thing

i liked their first-phase folky weirdo stuff

on the ny h1pst3r tip again...

religious knives

http://www.myspace.com/religi0usknives

kinda solve my problem of wanting a doors that isn't actually the doors

Also new to me - Sex Vid - Communal Living - fucking awesome

Yes x1000

Ooga Boogas "romance and adventure"

Extra Life is an ex-memeber of Zs. Saw Zs last weekend as a trio actually and it fucking blew my mind. They aren't using sheet music anymore (haven't seen them in awhile, so I don't know if that's a recent development or not), and the sounds the guitarist got out of his amp were just ear-piercingly high...in the best way possible.

woah this is kinda crazy, the Guardian UK wrote a little thing on Baby Guts, a band on the same label as my band...anyway they are great folks and a great band (the vivian girls reference in the article is kinda dumb though, baby guts is way more horsepower than that)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/jan/30/baby-guts-first-sight-michael-hann

This kind of thing is why we have the Guardian zing threads Matt... tunes are pretty fine on initial exposure but the fact that Vivian Girls are mentioned in any way says a lot of things about a lot of things

yeah i don't really know the guardian, but it seems lame like "hey let's just mention another girl band"...even though baby guts is 2/3rd male anyway

but yeah it's amazing they got mentioned at all, our label is super small and they def sell records in the 100s and 10s not the 1000s.

Has anyone heard/liked NO TALK yet? I just got one of their singles today. They are from HOOSton and play gruff chuggy midpace mega sarcastic bad attitude punk rock songs called things like 'Invade Iran'. Also this single is on a label called ARSE GESTAPO 82.

Not heard but going on my list now!

I think this came out in 2008 but whatever - got Local Anesthetic discography CD in Amoeba last week and it's really awesome and recommended. Everyone should know the Frantix' My Dad's A Fuckin' Alcoholic from Killed By Death but there's tons of other great stuff on this. You can hear the Jeri Rossi tracks on some dickhead's blog here.

Caught Finnish hardcore pioneers Riisteyt playing in Henry's cellar bar week before last, and they totally tore the roof off.

Ahh shit I had to pick between seeing Riistetyt or the Wankys the other weekend (for financial reasons) and decided to go to the Wankys instead. Then some friends I hadn't seen in ages came over and I ended up staying in drinking whisky with them so I didn't go to either.

new el jesus de magico 12" is...weird. garbly noise abruptly cutting into serious bad-time drone rock. pretty catchy basslines! i think it's pretty awesome.

split between eet skull & ganglians on dulci-tone. eet stuff = super sweat. much crud scraped back, but still raw, weird. 2nd (longer) track is v. blank dogs, gouged, ache, sweetness.

ganglians is twee. i said twee! super nice summertime c-86 vibes, all wistful and not-too-cheep. there is no "punk" here, just assloads of indie indie indie pop awesome. will be a favorite for years to come. sister goodbye. you heard me.

I has a question, and figure this is probably a good enough place to ask it:

Is there any musical difference between the 2 editions of this Johnny Vomit & the Dry Heaves single? Or is it just a different sleeve or something?

Running In A Rat Race 7" (Solid Sex Lovie Doll Records, 2006, SSLD 008)
numbered with red ink stamp, 2 editions:
PSYCH SYNTH PUNK ED. (272 copies)
BAD & DRUNK ED. (221 copies)

1. Running In A Rat Race
2. London's Bridge Is Burning Down
3. She's A Punk Rocker But She Goes Out With Dicks
4. Little Drummer Boy

Bad Sports "All the Time" 7" is doing it for me

Cool video too:
http://www.myspace.com/badsportsband

Nice early Who feel like Cheap Time

At the screamer post-punk end, XYX "Anel and her Problem"

http://www.myspace.com/xyxs

And the whole B-52 vs. Fall mash up of the Golden Triangle album

http://www.myspace.com/goldentriangle

I was a big punk guy 4-5 years ago, but I haven't been listening to any new stuff. I gotta say, the song titles and band names on this thread are cracking me up.

That said I've been loving Born Pregnant by Drunkdriver and I'm Fucking Dead by Fag Cop.
Is this real or comedy?

You can't even tell if they're boys or girls either! It's a fucking disgrace.

WNYU is putting on a great show tonight if anyone is interested.

Blank Dogs
Naked On The Vague
The Pink Noise
Gary War
Led Er Est
Silk Flowers

The Shank
98 Bayard St. @ Leonard St.
Greenpoint, Brooklyn
8 Bones

col poo, re johnny vomit 45: haven't heard it, but SSLD always put out two differently named editions of everything. same tracks, different art. that's what i'd guess is the case WR2 jonny vom

think that XYX epee bendy mentioned has been upped elswhere around here (?), but hell yeah! great record. wish the first couple tracks were a lot longer. a lot a lot a lot.

would blump that WNYU show, but i'm like a continent away. think the dogs are playing west coast soon tho. inquiring.

plus new gun outfit LP is awesome. not much punk. more like hairy mid-80s proto "stoner" heavy-indie shit. homestead vibes, like with that hollow, scratchy martin bisi sound. or spot maybe. tuff, gnarly anti-pop, but with tons of oblique hooks.

I figured as much re: Johnny Vomit, thanks for clarifying. I've got the Psych Synth Punk version, tbh I haven't actually listened to it yet but I saw the Bad & Drunk version on Ebay listed for 99c. Now I don't need to bid on it!

kinda bummed that notv declined to hit providence this tour

did anybody check out gunslingers' no more invention? came out in 2008 but seems v v slept on. wtf-is-it power trio, splattering punk/psych/surf, heavy on the stun-wah but too aggressive and smarmy to be filed with the stoner freak stuff. they're from france which is bizarre cuz the french are not generally known for quality spaz rock action but there it is (or la-bas should I say).

they were supposed to play SXSW and do a US tour but all the dates recently disappeared off their myspace page.

been blasting the hunches - exit dream this weekend thx to a hot tip from ilx0r sleep

Is that the same Hunches that recorded "Yes. No. Shut it"? If so, glad to hear they're still doing it. Saw 'em in Glasgow promoting that years back. Mental. Encored with an Electric Eels cover.

It's the same Hunches, but they've got a bigger sound on this one- more Velvets, less Nuggets. It's a good 'un.

Just found my way to their myspace. Good stuff!

more Velvets, less Nuggets

yeah totally. I don't know the names yet but that one that goes "I was born today ... oh I was born today" (track 3?) fits that bill.

hozac hookup klub 7"s came today -- three winners!

dum dum girls - not quite as good as the captured trax 12", but the "let it be me" cover is as good as the US girls' "i can hear music" cover, which means GOOD

woven bones - total surprise, gotta get the other records. cramps-y, cranked-up jammers

idle times - sort of sounds like dinosaur jr! more indie-rock than hozac is normally, which is acceptable to me!

record clubs is bumming me out. back in the SP days, you could get copies at most decent stores even if you weren't a subscriber. All these new gen clubs (Hozac, Columbus Disc, SP2) are much more "exclusive". sucks for those of us with unsteady income, cash only limitations, etc.

plus COLD CAVE

lol

http://lineout.thestranger.com/2007/01/who_is_this_hardcore_band_and_a_fashion

Really digging Woven Bones - absolutely nailing that particular Psychedelic Jungle vibe. The Horrors probably wish they sounded like this.

Hang on, this one is more like The Scientists. Cool.

plus new gun outfit LP is awesome. not much punk. more like hairy mid-80s proto "stoner" heavy-indie shit. homestead vibes, like with that hollow, scratchy martin bisi sound. or spot maybe. tuff, gnarly anti-pop, but with tons of oblique hooks.

yeah i've been liking this ... some of it sounds like early unwound or sonic youth but with less noise

do box elders go on this thread?
i've been waiting for someone to convert their wfmu session into mp3s and put it on the web for me to enjoy
http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/30122

record clubs is bumming me out. back in the SP days, you could get copies at most decent stores even if you weren't a subscriber. All these new gen clubs (Hozac, Columbus Disc, SP2) are much more "exclusive". sucks for those of us with unsteady income, cash only limitations, etc.

― That's not just me saying that, that's the Pentagon. (contenderizer), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 00:22 (2 days ago)

the hozac one will be available on LP/CD at the end of the club, along with some bonus tracks!

for the HAWDCOAH:

2009 is Extreme Noise's 15th Anniversary and we are doing a series of shows to celebrate!

Tickets will be available at Extreme Noise and online at www.triplerocksocialclub.com beginning at noon on Tuesday, March 17th (Tomorrow!!). All these shows will be at the Triple Rock in Mpls.

Saturday, April 25, 4 pm, $12 adv, $15 door. All Ages.
Disembodied (Reunion!)
Coalesce (Kansas City, MO)
Veil of Maya (Chicago, IL)
Architect (Syracuse, NY)
Frontier (MN)

*Influential 90s Metal HC band Disembodied is back. We asked them to play a local show before they head out of town to headline the sold out Burning Fight Book Release show in Chicago. They've put together a great lineup of bands to join them, so this show should be a memorable one.

Wednesday, May 27, 5 pm, $15. All Ages.
Amebix (UK)
Misery
Warplague

*80s UK Peace Punk/Metal legends Amebix are back and as amazing as ever. Recently played a series of sold-out dates in the US to rave reviews. We got them to play one of only a few dates in the US this time around! Of course, locals Misery and Warplague round out a great bill!

Saturday, May 30, 5 pm, $10 adv, $12 door. All Ages.
Skitkids (Sweden)
Assrash (Reunion!)
Living Hell
Detonate

*The Skitkids are definitely one of the best active HC bands in the world and we are bringing them in for their only show in the Midwest! Mpls ragers Assrash are back as well--reunited for the first time since the 90s! Living Hell and Detonate--some of Mpls' finest will kick your ass as well!

Friday, July 10, 5 pm, $10 adv, $12 door. All Ages.
The Kids (Belgium)
The Daily Void (Chicago)
The Retainers

*Getting the Kids is very exciting for us here at EN. True legends of the late 70s Euro punk scene, the Kids first LP is a masterpiece of KBD melodic punk. They played a few shows in the US last year and blew everyone away. We got them for their only Midwest date. Chicago's Daily Void (ex-Functional Blackouts) have a slew of 7"s and a great LP out and will surely be amazing. Local faves, The Retainers will rock the house after just releasing a fantastic new LP on PTrash Rec in Germany.

Saturday, July 11, 5 pm, $10 adv, $12 door. All Ages.
Tragedy (Portland)
Condominium

*We talked Tragedy into stopping for a show on their way to a tour of Finland and Russia. These guys have defined modern HC for years and always blow everyone away. This will be there first appearance in MN in a couple of years. Condominium are one of the Twin Cities' best HC bands and are not to be missed!

Didn't know Amebix were playing again. Think I'll be catching them at the Camden Underworld.

Yeah I got a ticket for the Underworld show.

I also got a Teenage Jesus & the Jerks ticket last night - they're playing somewhere called Corsica Studios in April.

amebix played here last month w/ morne and kylesa, the crusty kids were in crust heaven

new oh sees is nice if you like oh sees

saw aids wolf last week - not sure they belong here but their new stuff is more driving and rocking then what I've heard previously

I like Oh Sees.

I also like Kylesa but don't think they're supporting Amebix in Europe. They weren't even supporting them in LA, I was going to attempt to see them when I was there but couldn't get a lift - this was before they announced the London gig.

yeah yeah i like oh sees too! i think imma see em next week. gotta grab that LP.

So apparently the Avengers LP is finally getting a legit reissue - I already have the orig LP but the CD is a 2 disc version - anyone know what the bonus tracks are?

I also like the new Oh Sees. Is it less "crisp" than the last one, or is that the quality of the mp3s I got sent?

blank dogs were like really really good last night. i love all the records, but i was not expecting their live set to be as good as it was.

naked on the vague sounded rad, but quit after two songs cause they had some problems w the sound :(

brilliant colors and nodzzz ruled it too. very excited to try again with naked on the vague tonight, see blank dogs again, and finally see dutchess and the duke!

i <3 dutchess and the duke, listen to that record all the time

new oh sees is less fuzzy than the last one which I don't think helps it

but the live show is great, the main dude makes cool faces and shit

^^ ha ha! You should see the faces Dwyer makes when he plays jazz. Priceless!

Shameless plug...
Hue Blanc's Joyless Ones and Pink Reason did live sets for my radio show today. The archive is at http://wnyu.org/2009-03-30_newafternoonshow

The set starts a little after the one hour mark.

blank dogs were a little worse last night than the night before, naked on the vague gooooood but sort of annoying with their WE KNOW YOU THINK WE'RE UNLISTENABLE SCHTICK YAWWWWWN. dutchess and the duke played in the middle of the crowd with no amps/mics. which, fine. was cool, but, like, a tip too precious for my tastes. just plug in, dudes! but they sounded really great. the duke truly has an A+ voice (is that too GAY to say in the 2009 rolling "punk" (or non-indie underground) rock thread???).

does anyone like the bedroom-y oh sees stuff better than the rockier stuff?

whoa why did i sleep on that spider bags 7"?????? "hey delinquents" is one of the songs of the year.

going to see the blank dogs this wed w/white mice, excited

i saw one solid A blank dogs show last week, and one B- show. it's rad to see the squelchier songs take on a roxy music-like live rock groove!

is this where we talk about eat skull? anyone heard the new one yet?

Blank Dogs playing in the UK in May, got ticket for Madame Jo Jos in Soho. Which isn't the best venue but the other gig I've seen listed in London is at Barden's Boudoir which is even worse.

xpost

is this where we talk about eat skull? anyone heard the new one yet?

― prostitutes all over the place (k3vin k.), Tuesday, April 7, 2009 5:08 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

they were good last week, but i forgot to pick up their tour cd-r, which is the new siltbreeze record! d'oh!

Barden's is better than Madame Jojos on White Heat night!

True but I'm not planning to stick around afterwards anyway. And I work in Soho so it's more convenient.

saw the blank dogs last night

technical gear difficulties + lead singer being broken up with by gf via text message right before the show = disappointing and sort of lifeless set.

i really couldn't fucking stand white mic either. that whole locust shit seems played out IMO.

uh oh that xpost is shocking rolling "punk" (or non-indie underground) rock thread gossip

Blimey. I feel privileged.

can't remember if anyone is from around madison but gay beast from mpls is playing with aids wolf at the corral room tonight...they are amazing no wave type stuff have a new album coming out on skin graft, would be well worth your time

According to his twitter, Jay Reatard's new album is done. I'm looking forward to that.

(Does being on Matador now mean he isn't non-indie underground?)

nah who cares about labels, it's mostly to just stop us from having to talk about arcade fire and bon iver and stuff like that.

guys that eat skull is really disappointing. i've tried like three times but none of the songs are sticking...i loved Sick to Death

whoa really?? all the talk ive heard is that its the best thing of the year, and like 10x as good as StD!

i hear its a little less over-the-top with distorto and weirdo stuff, but that the tunes are great! i saw them the other day, and they havent changed their live approach much...

here's a skull band from chicago that is good:

head of skulls:

http://www.myspace.com/headofskullssounds

good old school touch & go type shit

eat head of skull kontrol

^supergroup!

skull kontrol was super dope.

i saw red eyed legends, dudes new band once they were pretty good...their bass player was sick or something so doug mccoombs from tortoise sat in, was kinda cool to see him playing punk stuff

whoa really?? all the talk ive heard is that its the best thing of the year, and like 10x as good as StD!

i hear its a little less over-the-top with distorto and weirdo stuff, but that the tunes are great! i saw them the other day, and they havent changed their live approach much...

― 69, Friday, April 10, 2009 4:32 PM (16 minutes ago)

i dunno, maybe it's just me, but i don't think the hooks are nearly as strong. i want to like this so bad, there's so much i loved about sick to death. i'm going to take a week off from it and give it another run

heard Eat Skull yesterday at Mondo Kim's, was digging it

technical gear difficulties + lead singer being broken up with by gf via text message right before the show = disappointing and sort of lifeless set.

this sounds like it should have made for a terrific punk show. that blank dogs guy is a wuss

hahaha right?

don't even GET me STARTED.

i don't think mr. blank dog even had a gf when he left town, unless we're talking about his on-again off-again bartendress/garage rocker ex.....

i am only reporting what i heard

Blank Dogs have like 4 gigs in London now, is he really that big?

eat skull is growing on me. i like the first song, and this one toward the end called "dawn in the face", but it's really just a second-rate "fade to smoke"

If the mp3s I just got sent are to be believed, there is a song called "Fuck Eat Skull" on the new Intelligence album.

skull gang!

will it be on record by record store day this coming saturday?

i dont get the intelligence. i never even got the a-frames! i do like that children's hospital record, but the rest of that axis kind of leaves me a little ehh

i'm still waiting on a Jacuzzi Boys record

Digging Nobunny today.

NoBunny rules live. Great Ramones style pop punk plus a bunny mask and nudity.

Who could ask for anything more?
Jay seems real stoked about putting out a new NoBunny lp on his vanity label.

nobunny totally ruuuuuuules

new sacred bones singles are A++ -- nice face and timmy's organism (human eye dude, better than the newest HE album) are fucking rad. naked on the vague is very very good also, but like a step-and-a-half below the other two (mostly cause no real surprises on theirs).

i dont get the intelligence. i never even got the a-frames!

I'm with you on the Intelligence but A-Frames Black Forest fuckin rocks

okay this is important: the bitters (http://www.myspace.com/bittersband) are on the blank dogs label and have written some seriously amazing tunes.

^^ I CAME ON HERE TO POST THAT. kudos to mr blank dog for picking good releases that dont all sound like blank dogs!

the whole bundle is pretty great, especially the beets LP and bitters 12". mayfair set fails to live up to either blank dogs or dum dum girls, havent heard the tapes yet, and havent gotten to blessure grave or woods either...

also, saw ty segall and thee oh sees last night (left before the intelligence, oh well, so much for ever getting them). ty segall was really really good and cute, lotsa snotty ramalama energy (like the traditional fools' stuff, no surprise) and a pretty good band. but oh man i love thee oh sees, and they just kind of blow everyone else off the stage for me. john dwyer makes me really really glad i moved to SF.

beets & the woods are my faves. kids from the beets are seriously amazing. like, real fucking punks who dress like the ramones and are really fun-loving dudes.

I know this is completely anathema to the entire rolling pun-derg-rock ethos, but does anyone know of a site that sells a lot of this stuff digitally? I know that mp3 rips of lots of 7"s float around, but does anyone sell the stuff straight up? Would that be a totally doomed business from the start, since the whole point is super limited 7"s and stuff?

Anyway - I've been digging the Savage Boys and Girls Club album on In the Red and the Wax Museum album on... I can't remember.

I was asking about the digital thing because I am obsessed with this one tune - "On Top of That Girl" by Sweet Faces - after grabbing ift from some blog. But the rip is terrible, I don't have a turntable, and I would love a clean copy of it. But I don't know who to give my money to... and I would love to check out a bunch of this other stuff, too.

wow the bitters are nice! way more 60s garage feel but def digging it

this band - gay baby - is doing a split 7 with a cool band from mpls called france has the bomb...REALLY like this song on the myspace

http://www.myspace.com/hopelesshomo

france has the bomb's hozac single was really good -- havent heard anything else by them...

ghosts, the new marked men LP, is pretty solid. one of my favourites so far this year.

http://www.myspace.com/wethemeans

^^^check this band...Cool Devices...out of Chicago, used to be the Means, but anyway really nice...sort of garagey organs but not in a retro 60s way, way more mean and screamy, like in the Skull Kontrol vein...or Tar if they were hep cats or some shit...anyway really fucking digging this, recorded at Electrical Audio, frankly it's nice to hear some shit that doesn't sound like it was recorded in a tin can these days.

also, this is way more on the Sonic Youth late Unwound tip, but some people I know from Mpls have a fucking GREAT new band called Whitesand/Badlands....honk if u luv art rock:

wow cool devices are pretty awesome.

i checked out more of whitesand/badlands, because it was hard for me to judge them by that one song. they've got a few more up here: http://whitesandbadlands.blogspot.com/ which aren't as good IMO. i like them ok. i can definitely hear unwound in their music.

Thee Oh Sees "Help" is really strong. Maybe even more than Master's Bedroom, which very gradually became a favorite last year. The harmonies are up front more than ever, pushing it closer to pop than Dwyer's yet gone. Nice companion to the Hunches record in a lot of ways- a balance of noise and jangle and hooks.

is the bitters record going for $16 everywhere or is the store i go to just wrong?

wow, apparently it is $13-16 everywhere. what a ripoff. should've been a $5 7".

i think captured tracks is into the 12" 45rpm cause of the deeper grooves

Thee Oh Sees "Help" is really strong. Maybe even more than Master's Bedroom, which very gradually became a favorite last year. The harmonies are up front more than ever, pushing it closer to pop than Dwyer's yet gone. Nice companion to the Hunches record in a lot of ways- a balance of noise and jangle and hooks.

― bendy, Thursday, April 23, 2009 12:01 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I'm not digging it too much, most of the songs could be in a target commercial

the kinks have been on a target commercial too

i always loved that weird fake psych song (was from some weird 60s movie with a fictional rock star) called "shape of things to come" or something, was a target commercial

yeah but the kinks suck

I am jking

(was from some weird 60s movie with a fictional rock star)
Wild in the Streets. The group is called Max Frost and the Troopers.

yeah but the kinks suck

Almost SB'd you for that (also j/k)

thx tripmaker! that song is grebt

is it different from the Yardbirds song of the same name?

It is a different song. The Yardbirds one has the chorus that goes "Come tomorrow..." and the Max Frost song goes "Nothing can change the shape of things to come" and yeah, it was in a Target ad.

I've got a copy of the Wild in the Streets soundtrack lp. Shape of things is the best song, but "52 percent" is noteworthy. It's a pop song outlining Max Frost's campaign platform for the presidency. I guess it goes along with "14 or fight." The movie is great. Richard Pryor, Shelley Winters, Ed Begley, psychedelic concentration camps for all Americans over the age of 40. You gotta see it.

anyway, cool app, i understand that u dont love thee oh sees record regardless of target

and i acknowledge ur feeling

Oh, I like the new Oh Sees record, btw.

Oh Sees
I think the Target/Wes Anderson OST'ish of it is great. The harmonies seem intentionally wussy, yet so out of focus (and sung in that squirrel register) that is their eeriest yet. It's like the Moody Blues, if they actually tried to sing their spoken intros. Underwater.

Hey Matt, since you're in the Twin Cities—Do you remember a band called Faux Jean? Matching outfits, '60s revivalism, girl/boy singing? Both the Golden Triangles and The Oh Sees remind me of them, in that they both sound like what would happen if Faux Jean freaked out and recorded in an echo-y tin shack.

whoa guys WORLD'S LOUSY W IDEAS VOL 8 is really really good. its the most "establishment" volume yet, with vivian girls, blank dogs, intelligence (i actually like their song on here, too), oh sees, tyvqwertghgjkckdhdkk, sic alps, pink reason, times new viking, and guinea worms. guinea worms and pink reason are the winners here, esp guinea worms' fucking rad "soiled sender." i like the tyvek song, too. actually its all pretty uniformly awesome.

Hope they do a comp of all the World's Lousy records cos they are pretty hard to find without going via Ebay

Hey Matt, since you're in the Twin Cities—Do you remember a band called Faux Jean? Matching outfits, '60s revivalism, girl/boy singing? Both the Golden Triangles and The Oh Sees remind me of them, in that they both sound like what would happen if Faux Jean freaked out and recorded in an echo-y tin shack.

― THESE ARE MY FEELINGS! FEEL MY FEELINGS! (I eat cannibals), Saturday, April 25, 2009 3:52 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

oh yeah absolutely even played a few shows with them over the years...the main dude is still around, has had various lineups but doesn't seem to do as much anymore, have also seen him doing solo acoustic version of faux jean...there were pretty good back in the day.

Hope they do a comp of all the World's Lousy records cos they are pretty hard to find without going via Ebay

― I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, April 28, 2009 4:42 PM (56 seconds ago) Bookmark

h@rry is talking about doing an LP the compiles volumes 1, 2, 5, and 6, i think? which i dont quite understand. except u can definitely get vols 3 and 4 pretty easy these days, and vol 8 is still available if u look around (google shopping?)

"...an LP that compiles..."

Maybe Rough Trade stocks them, I dunno where to buy any of this stuff in the UK. Mail order is too expensive at the moment, what with the exchange rate sucking AND US-international mail charges going up.

i see. yeah, mail order is def what i was thinking...

after the thousandth time jamming the guinea worms song on WLWI8, i broke down and bought the first two singles. love that band.

That Guinea Worms track on WLWI8 is really rad.

Reminds me of Roky and The Aliens.

have you heard their col discount rec club single?

the a-side, I KNOW WHERE WILL FOSTER LIVES, sounds zappa/beefheart-esque in an rad way

xp 69: Is it a tribute to "I know where Syd Barrett Lives"?

the ex-Breather Resist dudes have a band called Young Widows that sound pretty good to me (and i HATED breather resist, at least the time i saw them open for Big Business)

http://www.myspace.com/youngwidows

xp: the title certainly is, but not the song! will foster is the lead singer of the band...

So this is probably not news or exciting to you guys but I heard on the Metal thread there is a new Flipper album and that sort of belongs here not there.

Just wondering is it any good or not. Also I like Rusted Shut and am drunken.

whoa!

Also I like Rusted Shut and am drunken.

lol

I've totally ignored this thread for some reason. Was just about to post about the 'too goofy for Rusted Shut fans' comment way upthread. I like Coconut Coolouts, too!

I got a lot to read through and a whole lot to catch up on.

saw d. rider (todd ritman from Us maple's new band) last nite.

seriously one of the best bands i've seen in forever.

will check out

Saw GBH tonight in a teeny venue in the east end, the support bands were pretty lousy but GBH were fucking great and played pretty much everything I wanted them to, circumstances have always gone against me in seeing this band before, glad I finally got around to it.

Did Flipper ever record anything worth hearing after Will Shatter died?

I know this is completely anathema to the entire rolling pun-derg-rock ethos, but does anyone know of a site that sells a lot of this stuff digitally? I know that mp3 rips of lots of 7"s float around, but does anyone sell the stuff straight up? Would that be a totally doomed business from the start, since the whole point is super limited 7"s and stuff?

So is the answer to this that no one does, and it would be a doomed business?

Did Flipper ever record anything worth hearing after Will Shatter died?

uh well i liked american grafishy. it's not a great record but it's fun.

I've heard they're still pretty great live, but I've managed to miss them all of the handful of times they've played in the UK.

new Tyvek album is pretty hot shit, goofy california raisin cover art notwithstanding

bought the Eat Skull "Wild and Inside" LP the same day, the first two tracks are pretty good (esp. Stick to the Formula) but it seems to fall way off after that, nothing's stickin with me

bought the Eat Skull "Wild and Inside" LP the same day, the first two tracks are pretty good (esp. Stick to the Formula) but it seems to fall way off after that, nothing's stickin with me

― dmr, Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:14 PM (25 seconds ago)

yeah i agree completely w/this, i gave this so many chances :(

"Building Burning" was my initial Tyvek jam, now I'm on to "Summer Things"

and "Stand and Fight"

they cleaned up the sound just enough to give it some muscle but not TOO much. rocknroll

bought the Eat Skull "Wild and Inside" LP the same day, the first two tracks are pretty good (esp. Stick to the Formula) but it seems to fall way off after that, nothing's stickin with me

― dmr, Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:14 PM (25 seconds ago)

yeah i agree completely w/this, i gave this so many chances :(

― some dude, don't make it dad (k3vin k.), Wednesday, May 13, 2009 1:15 AM (3 hours ago)

oh noooooooooo! i have been proselytizing this record so hard this week. every song is great. along with the bitters 12", this is my favorite thing all year.

oh shit something else i love from this year is the red bull surfing commercial

re: tyvek, i understand it is worth investing in, but ive been too busy listening to wild and inside (great cover art, great poster also). ill bring it to work tomorrow.

ok this tyvek record is awesome.

WELCOME TO THE FUCKED-UP SIDE OF MY MIND!

"debut 45" by watery love = awesome sludge punk for fans of vincebus eruptum, brainbombs, stupid party etc

man i saw so cow (dunno if they've been mentioned here yet, but it's hyperstrummy more rockin'/noisy television personalities-ish stuff) last night and it was rad. they covered nobunny's "mess me up," which was also rad. and hey, the nobunny show i caught a few weeks back was rad as well!

in conclusion: rad

How long do the World Is Lousy folks usually take to mail out a record? I ordered something from them about two and a half weeks back, and was wondering what their fulfillment usually looks like. (Maybe I'm spoiled because everything else that I've ordered after seeing it on the Rolling Undie threads has gotten here in, like, three days.)

that's not too extreme a wait - maybe email if yr order hasn't arrived in a few days? AR guy is a bro so if something's gone wrong i'm sure it'll be fixed

Yeah, it's not an extreme wait. I've just ordered from, like, five different labels due to this thread, and have gotten used to it being there, like, the very next day. The first time it was surprising, by the fourth time, it's expected.

God, the internet has ruined my patience. I WANT MY GRATIFICATION INSTANTLY.

miss u pretzel dub

world is lousy #8 is pretty cool. that's the first one of those I've picked up. surprisingly I like the Intelligence track almost the best and yeah that Guinea Worms is good too

Gonerfest (Sept 24-26) lineup announced. pretty excited bout

The Clean !!!!
Cheater Slicks
NoBunny
Compulsive Gamblers !!!
Box Elders

http://www.goner-records.com/gonerfest/index.html

im definitely hittin gonerfest again!

xp - yeah i surprisingly like the intelligence song, too!

man i hope the clean tour

man i hope you just quit cryin and come to memphis

anything could happen

tally-ho

Just saw this in my Facebook feed courtesy of a total stranger and chose to put it here because why not:

"John Waters was at The Business/Iron Cross show at the Ottobar Saturday. Such a creepy fuck."

does deastro count in this thread? sort of an atlas sound-type project, lo-fi, big, busy drums, dream-pop vocals. the record is moondagger and i'm really digging it

i get less and less sure what fits in this thread/category, but I've been listening to the Fresh & Onlys records like crazy recently. All so good (and more to come -- another LP on Woodsist and an ep on Captured Tracks this year), but so far the 4-song single on Chuffed gets the most play. Just a great distillation of that band in such a short burst.

plus that bitters record and world's lousy 8 are wonderful as well.

yeah that bitters record is a+! it's a fucked up guy, right? i've never heard a fucked up song that's made me not want to listen to something else, but that one may have been my fave of the last set of captured tracks releases.

haven't heard the fresh & onlys stuff yet, though i've been curious.

haha yeah this thread is sort of amorphous but whatever, if it's good and has at least some shared punk dna i'm putting it here.

ALSO QUE GET OVER YOURSELF AND GO TO MEMPHIS WITH US

i think "non-indie underground" is what's really important, unless you don't mind "punk" being used as a catch-all term for noise, lo-fi and post-punk.

I think a lot of this type of stuff as indie rock personally but the rolling indie thread is mostly just lame Arcade Fire nonsense so I'm happy to read this instead.

Think a lot of dudes on here might like my band's newest EP but feel kind of gross about posting it on here. You know where to find it if you want to hear it (on our website).

xpost: seeing John Waters at a punk show would make my year. I'm guessing he was there for Baltimore's own Iron Cross, rather than The Business.

I'm with you, pretzel walrus, on both the Bitters record being good, and on Fucked Up being bad.

Sounds like I have to hear that Tyvek full-length.

I think a lot of this type of stuff as indie rock personally but the rolling indie thread is mostly just lame Arcade Fire nonsense so I'm happy to read this instead.

^^this was my original intent, basically, to not have to talk about arcade fire and MGMT type shit + obv to discuss current punk, which hardly ever gets discussed on ilm

curious to hear what fuels the fucked up hate.

i wouldn't say i hate them, just that i don't really like what i've heard

posicore '09

haha fair enough.

just checked out tyvek's s/t. i prefer it to fast metabolism. really great stuff. listening to this reminds me of when i first heard no age.

what label is that on?

fast metabolism was their CDR -- it has all been put to 7" wax by now

philly based NZ fetish label

xp

The new Tyvek is great -- i've yet to see a copy in the stores around here, hopefully soon.

I've also been giving that Ganglians record on Woodsist some time this week. It's a real grower! Its hooks have now sunk into my brain.

^^ agreed im into it!

World Is Lousy 7&8 showed up last night, listening now. Really dug the Straight Arrows track on 7.

i'm hating myself for missing tyvek last night, and god i'd love to hear that record.

still waiting for my copy to arrive, but the blessed 7" they just put out on les disques steak is my fave thing of theirs since summer burns

tyvek was pretty blah at gonerfest last year, then just fucking RULED a week later in baltimore. im pretty psyched to see em again soon...

yeah I'd like to see em again. they opened for Pissed Jeans a couple years ago and were prety good, but at the time I think they only had one 7" out and I didn't know any of their songs

xp yes, it was funny how that went, they totally got lost for me in the overall sweep of goner but that ottobar show killed

oh also i got a copy of a comp of vancouver stuff called emergency room (from 2008 i think) and aside from having a horrifically ugly cover and a swanky bound photobook inside the sleeve it is really good, like at least 70% excellent and the rest is never worse than "eh whatever." there are a lot of girls playing punk rock in vancouver!

Tyvek s/t seems a little blah. It's good to see them blowing up, though (for some values of blowing up—ood to at least see blog chatter about them). I used to work with Kevin's older brother Trevor and got to see some of their first gigs. I'm glad they're still around, too, because I kinda expected them to flare up and then disappear like most Ann Arbor punk bands. (They made the wise decision to move the hell out).

they def went a different direction than an LP full of FUTURE JUNKs and AIR CONDITIONERs, but i think its a pretty awesome, and sorta complex, grower

Tyvek s/t seems a little blah.

this album's killin me right now. really dominating my rotation.

every time I listen I get real into a new track, right now it's Hey Una

"159 2nd avenue ... it's just a front you walk into ....... can't see me I'm hidin in plain sight"

the record's kind of uneven but not without charms, looking forward to catching them tomorrow night

I really enjoy that song from the new Jay Reatard that got posted over at Matador. I'm really looking forward to the album now, after not going crazy for many of the singles (my favorite track from that batch was "Always Wanting More" and he'd posted that on his blog a few months beforehand).

http://www.matadorrecords.com/matablog/2009/05/27/coming-august-18-jay-reatards-watch-me-fall/

Pitchfork even joining the Wavves backlash now.
http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=98348074168&h=HUk2V&u=Fhv9l&ref=nf
I don't think the music warrants the harsh criticism he's gotten. Seems like an unfortunate side-effect of...something.

But I guess when your big festival set goes down the way that one did...

pitchfork does this shit on purpose IMO, like build something up to take it down later...like i "kinda" know a dude in Tapes n' Tapes from around and like they are super nice and all...but i swear Pitchfork pretty much singlehandedly made them, then when the next album dropped - right when they had a chance to sorta cash in maybe and do okay - pitchfork said it was just "okay" indie rock, well fuck that's what they always were you fucks! then they write about "former blog buzz bands" when they pretty much go out of their way to create the buzz in the first place...

they did the same shit to plastic constellations...

i think it's to demonstrate their value to advertisers, like we brought you into the world we'll take you out a la bill cosby's old line.

that said i can't even listen to any more "hot" tape hissy lo-fi sounding records right now

Yeah, it's pretty lame. It's not like there are Pitchfork news items about every time a band blows it on stage.

Lol, the link I posted is to the wrong thing duh
http://pitchfork.com/news/35459-wavves-self-destruct-in-barcelona/

ehh i mean 1) that wavves thing was pretty newsworthy especially for a band so big on their site and (2) wasnt the first tapes n tapes record a lot better than the second anyway?

That Wavves fellow does seem like a tiresome prick, so if there's any collective desire to give him a bit of a pasting maybe it stems from that

i dunno, like i thought they were just like an okay run of the mill minneapolis indie rock band. i thought they both seemed "fine" couldn't really tell why one was supposed to be so much better.

i don't think a band like wavves having a slight meltdown onstage is really newsworthy!

Bottles and shoes thrown as band's petulant behavior kills the party

"petulant"???? really? like, really?

I agree with Que.

An onstage meltdown at a big festival is a major component in becoming a major rock band; Pitchfork is probably helping out their bros by reporting this.

if pitchfork had reviewed the black lips before the live album they prolly would have had an article like "BLACK LIPS SHOOT FIREWORKS OFF ON STAGE, PLAY GUITARS WITH DICKS."

More like BLACK LIPS PISS ALL OVER GEAR, SELVES.

The Wavves Barcelona gig sounds significantly better than when I saw the Jesus and Mary Chain on their first UK tour - and that didn't really do them any harm.

Pitchfork didn't cover that, though.

Oh by the way I saw these kids last weekend and they were great and they're all like 17 years old and they made me feel embarrassed for being 30 and still trying to play rock music when clearly it's for high school kids like them. So much energy, great songs, unison vocals on basically every tune. They only have a self-released 4-song EP so far, which isn't as good as they were live.

oh I guess they're 18 not 17

"a combination of a difficult soundcheck and absolutely foul moods resulted in what must have been the most epic onstage meltdown a band of their small size could conjure."

wavves are a b- band but seriously this kinda reaction makes me wonder if the writer's ever been to, you know, a punk show before. i mean maybe not!

also yeah nick when my gf and i were in chicago we read that article and wanted to check them out but they weren't playing when we were around

i like the record enough but wavves has one of the worst live shows ever. i saw him a few times at sxsw and each time the sound was just awful, his voice shot and really he just seemed like he didn't know what he was doing. i definitely don't suspect he's an asshole or anything, but it's understandable that eventually something would go horribly wrong.

Dude needs a soundman, maybe a guitar tech. The record is pretty damn good, shouldn't be that hard to get that sound live.

That guy from Psychedelic Horseshit must be laffing and wanking over this.

Gawd, that Pfork blurb is just the most fucking masturbatory bullshit. How dare they be sarcastic about our awesome Barcelona festival?

i bet it's a pretty dope festival, on the beach and shit

anyway i think this only got reported like so because the editor happened to be at the show and uh is it really that hard to show up and play your music for 45 mins? dude seems like a brat

not much diff from most of ILM.

leftover from 2008, but the point stands:

TOTAL ABUSE

― stuffy old songs about the buttocks (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 5 January 2009 03:13 (4 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

OK I just got the LP in the post and it is fucking hueg - putting it in my 2009 list as it didn't ship until just before Christmas as far as I can tell? </important info>

some 7"s i've been digging lately:

dead clodettes record on lipstick pickup (french girl band, incompetent shouty awesome)
bundle of fags - art school asshole (plain ol punk rock, good tunes, catchy)
i'd buy that for a dollar vol. 1 (comp, los steaks track is particularly enjoyable)
fems - go to a party (reissue on drag city, sub-flipper, annoying-on-purpose bass plod)
ean eraser - illegitimate love (punk/garagey powerpop, a-side is a real brainwormer)

I like that Fems thing but of all the trillions of KBD attic fodder out there I'm not sure what made them pick that one for reissue... I mean good on them, it's just in no way obvious to the layperson like w/ the Death record

yeah i hear ya. still good though! it is also recorded very bizarrely

sex vid and bone awl both hitting town in the next 2 weeks

which Bone Awl LP to pick up??

there's only one LP, isn't there?

oh wait, if they have bog bodies/magnetism of war on LP def get that. meaningless is good, though.

'meaningless...' or 'not for our feet' were the two I was deliberating on, but I figured there was a bunch more, going by how many tapes they seem to have.

I *think* 'meaningless...' or 'not for our feet' are the only two in print at the mo - the former is the one that truly does it for me

remaining bone awl tour dates

# Denver, CO- June 3rd (Wednesday) 3 Kings Tavern-60 S. Broadway
# St. Paul, MN- June 5th (Friday)- Big V-1567 University Ave. W.
# Chicago, IL- June 6th (Saturday)- Matchitehew Fest-3219 S. Morgan
# Redford, MI- June 8th (Monday) Double 00 Pub 25044 Grand River-25044 Grand River
# Columbus, OH June 9th (Tuesday) Carabar-115 Parsons Ave
# Pittsburgh, PA June 10th (Wednesday)- The Nerve-500 Dargan Street
# Cleveland, OH June 11th (Thursday)- Now That's Class-11213 Detroit Ave
# Buffalo, NY June 12th (Friday)-Funeral Home-366 Ontario St
# Rochester, NY June 13th (Saturday)-Bugjar-219 Monroe Ave
# Allston, Mass June 15th (Monday)-O'Briens - 3 Harvard Ave
# Providence, RI June 16th (Tuesday)- AS220
# Wallingford , CT June 17th (Wednesday)- Cherry Street Station-491 N. Cherry St. Ext.
# New York City, NY June 19th (Friday)- Fontana's-105 Eldridge st.
# Philadelphia, PA June 23rd (Tuesday)- Disgraceland - with INFERNAL STRONGHOLD
# Richmond, VA June 24th (Wednesday)- Nara Sushi-1309 W Main St.
# Atlanta, Ga June 26th (Friday)- Eyedrum-290 Martin Luther King Jr Dr S
# Nashville, Tn June 27th (Saturday)
# St Louis, MO June 28th (Sunday)- Cranky Yellow - 2847 Cherokee St.
# Kansas City, KC June 29th (Monday) - The Riot Room-4048 Broadway
# Tulsa, OK June 30th (Tuesday) - Pinkeye-1539 e. 11th st.- w/ Thornspawn
# Denton, TX July 2nd (Thursday) - House of Tinnitus-628 Lakey St.
# Austin TX July 3rd (Friday)- Red 7-611 E 7th St
# El Paso, TX July 6th (Monday)
# Albuquerque, NM July 7th (Tuesday) - 202 Harvard Dr
# Phoenix, AZ July 9th (Thursday)
# Las Vegas, NV July 10th (Friday)- Yayo Taco-4632 S. Maryland Pkwy.

yeah, go for meaningless... or both. get both.

(feeling lame in advance for not seeing them in philly)

(feeling lame for not having heard of them until now and so not seeing them in SF)

thurston moore namedrops them in that decibel interview

http://decibelmagazine.com/Content.aspx?ncid=305305

I was just thinking today bone awl sounds like mayhem covering minor threat or maybe vice versa

Has anyone heard/liked NO TALK yet? I just got one of their singles today. They are from HOOSton and play gruff chuggy midpace mega sarcastic bad attitude punk rock songs called things like 'Invade Iran'. Also this single is on a label called ARSE GESTAPO 82.

― I'm Throwing Small Arms Around Powys (DJ Mencap), Monday, January 26, 2009 6:23 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark

the going underground 7" is pretty fun, too!

pw i got u a blue sneaky pinks 7"

you fucking rule. gift exchange!

yes im also bringing home a folkways DvanR LP for 3mily and she gwan give u $$$

awesome, i picked you up something rad on record store day

...uhhhhhh oh right back to punk/"punk" stuff...

anyone heard the new pink reason/electric bunnies split?

@nnie's review of pink reason side:

song one: this sounds good except for that horrible organ! everything else sounds awesome, but god that organ. it sounds horrible. i feel weird. when is this gonna end?

song two: this sounds ok, but wheres the organ?

electric bunnies side is more of their clattery sound, kind of trashy/junky. first song, i thought was incorrectly on 33 1/3 cause it sounded too slow. but then it turned out it was on 45. then it turned out it was supposed to be on 33 1/3.

ok so we were slightly intoxicated when we listened to this 7".

which Bone Awl LP to pick up??

To reiterate - definitely Meaningless - the other stuff is good but that one is pretty much perfect all the way through.

also, buy some cassettes.

Really digging the 13th Chime re-issue that just came out. UK death rock/post punk. Collects the singles & I believe a couple of unreleased cuts.

Also, Meaningless, yes. I wasn't aware it was still in print; haven't seen copies around lately.

there's a repress on nuclear war now....

http://www.nwnprod.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=5186

meaningless is their potent statement but other fave bone awl stuff is

bog bodies tape
not for our feet 12"
so I must take from the earth and make it my own 7"
undying glare 7"
night middle 7"

"by ropes through dirt"!!! and the 7" with "veins" on it, goddamn.

also, the "vinland vs. finland" comp LP has one of my favorite tracks by them, it's actually really slow and simple. played it after "yours is no disgrace" on the radio once and got raves. from one guy.

and the 7" with "veins" on it, goddamn.

that's so I must take from the earth and make it my own

yeah, by ropes through dirt is good too

I just loaded up all the bone awl stuff I have in winamp and it's 5 and a half hours worth lol

Does anyone have an opinion on that French band Cheveu? Specifically regarding whether I should go and see them tonight?

I really like their record on S-S. No idea what the live experience may be like.

Cheers - yeah when I say specifically that doesn't exclude offering opinions on their records, none of which I own

There is a definite Country Teasers influence on display on the record. Not a bad thing at all, imo.

got the newest hozac bundle today!

as we speak, im putting on the smith westerns LP (and the first minute sounds good), but more about that later.

cave weddings 7" is awesome. sounds just like eric and the happy thoughts, which is unsurprising, because it's eric's other band. @nnie likes them more than i do normally, but this is a very good single -- simple not-too-wimpy super-catchy pop songs.

francis harold and the holograms is good and loud. it leaves me wanting to hear their previous 7", though, where the extreme noize was a little more like sculptural or something?? this is a little too diffuse to be great.

davila 666 is the surprise winner! i had never actually jammed them before, and now im psyched to hear the LP. nuggets en espanol, convincing 60s sound, poppy/wiry gtrs.

smith westerns LP sounds good so far too! crunchy like the hozac single, lotsa pop melodies, some chill lil t-rex swagga, etc. more later.

haha dude i just pulled up this page via search to mention getting these records

first song on second side of smith westerns is like a woooooooooozy frat rock song, like its a double shot of my baby's TUSSIN

yeah ok, smith westerns might be the best part of the shipment. the entire package is a solid A.

only thing I know about Cheveu is that they have some connection to Tyvek ... toured western u.s. and eastern europe opening for em, split 7", etc

never heard their music tho

i like some cheveu, although i always wish i liked em a little bit more

rather, i like their basic sound and wish they had more songs that i could get into

im totally just not into cheveu

get yer synths outta my punk

^^^ although i don't agree in principle i do think that in practice around 98% of the time it's advice better off followed

otoh when synthpunk fails i don't think it's really cuz of the synthesizers, it's b/c the songs aren't good and the synths aren't an interesting enough addition to make up for that wow truthbomb etc. i know

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1woMEExMZXg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_HMXbk3g08

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyCfq9-mkwA

Had enough yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkvK638yKuY

And the Farfisa is too a synth. Kinda. Don't make me post "Nag, Nag, Nag"

naw dude i love all those songs, even toss in that first units record while you're at it

lol ok now all i can think of are punk bands using synths that i DO like (all them dudes above plus pere ubu, spider, chrome, dna, devo, six finger satellite, old devo blah blah) and if we count organs as synths then the whole thing's off so hey statement retracted

...and Geza X. And the 90s had Men's Recovery Project and Primadonnas.

There were a ton of great synth-punk bands in the first half of the decade. I really liked disks from The Minds, The Epoxies and Jett Rink in particular. Piedmont Charisma and Ima Robot had some good stuff too. Digital Leather's record from last year wasn't solid all the way through, but "Styrofoam" might be the best song out of the whole trend.

I wouldn't put Cheveu in the same category as all these bands you guys are talking about. Their songs are pretty dominated by guitar. I wonder of DJ Mencap went to the show?

nooooooooooooooooooooo

http://lineout.thestranger.com/lineout/archives/2009/06/08/premature-jubilation

So I guess that means no Gonerfest Clean show either, huh? bummer.

wat a gwan that sucks sucks sucks

aw man what the hell!?

The Smith Westerns album is nice, good hooks

I didn't go and see Cheveu - I knew I'd be the only person there that even had a potential interest in them (I only knew it was happening at all cos I compile listings as a job, and they were playing with two bands chosen entirely at random) and I'm finding it harder all the time to, you know, live for the music when watching bands struggle to enjoy playing terribly-promoted shows in front of no-one. (It's possible this didn't turn out to be the case, but it seemed especially unlikely.)

ANYWAY just quickly gonna revisit some dudes I repped for up top by mentioning that the Shitty Limits album is now out and now great, and I know they have their own thread but Pissed Jeans' new one has got some top-of-their-game gems (no idea if this is out there, I got it off a label stream)

is it on sub pop?

ah yes i see KING OF JEANS coming in august

i loved SHALLOW, but really didnt find too much to like on HOPE FOR MEN. maybe this one will be better? time will tell, of course.

luvved hope for men, psyched for the new one. saw them live last year, there's something simultaneously charismatic and disturbing about their singer, he's got a good thing going.

pj live >>>>>>>>>> pj records

concur on awesomeness of hozac davila 666 single (itr LP was rad too), smith westerns LP is pretty good.

re: pj, totally loved shallow, PU & sub pop singles, not incredibly familiar with hope for men ("a bad wind" is a killer tune but nothing else super-grabbed me; have to go back and listen again sometime), but i'm totally interested in a new record. live they've alternated between helllll yeah (69 and i drove up to philly a few years back to see them tnv and country teasers, it was way great) and ehhhhh yeah whatever (last time i caught them the INSANITY felt kinda forced and they weren't as pummeling as i wanted them to be)

Shitty Limits coming to my town next month, looking forward to it. Almost makes up for Wavves cancelling their entire Euro tour post-Primavera incident. Got to wonder if that would've happened if Pitchfork hadn't made a big deal of it.

Was also kind of bummed that I missed Experimental Dental School last month ('nother barely-promoted show I guess, on an inconvenient Sunday night) but their new album is completely lacking in everything I found promising-but-not-quite-there about their previous, so.

Country Teasers + TNV + Pissed Jeans is one awesome lineup! Jealous now.

(PS synths rule OK etc, this lurker mainly checks this thread for the synthpunk and organ-garage business)

I put on EDS last month, they were fun times and nice if quiet people. Not listened to the new one enough to give much of a concrete judgement, although for better or worse they are giving it away for free

Ha, I thought I'd stolen it but it was free anyway. Feel bad for bad words and for not turning up now, will give it further listens and hope that someone went to the gig so they might come back, but a Sunday night which didn't get plugged on the local music forum and didn't get reviewed in the local music sheet (actually pretty decent) = I suspect the place would've been empty.

Anyone who calls a track "Your Tears Are My Ice Cream" is ok by me, anyway.

(PS synths rule OK etc, this lurker mainly checks this thread for the synthpunk and organ-garage business)

i saw a wonderful what-i-guess-you-would-call organ garage band last week in the basement of a record shop. they're called mount royal (www.myspace.com/mtroyal) and they're alot better live than on the recording but like, really actually super wonderful.

Watery Love - Debut 45 is some really good "skull music". RIYL: mayyors, brainbombs, etc
The Cultural Decay LP reissue on Sacred Bones is pretty amazing. Crisis/Joy Division/Wire - "chairs missing" vibe.
Silver Shampoo 7" on What's Your Rupture? is very simple & catchy garage bubblegum pop. good songwriting/clever lyrics.

dudes....

this is the lineup for Dudefest in Indiana...look closely...

July 17-19, 2009.
@ The Emerson Theater
4634 E. 10th St. Indianapolis, IN
All Ages

American Cheeseburger
Axis and Allies
Buried Inside
Canadian Rifle
Coke Bust
Coliseum
Comadre
Critical Response Team
Furnace
Gaza
Get Rad
Harm's Way
Harvey Milk
Hatred Surge
Hewhocorrupts
Ice Nine
Iron Lung
Kill the Client
Magrudergrind
Mammoth Grinder
Mehkago NT
Mind Eraser
Phoenix Bodies
Portraits of Past
Punch
Shitstorm
The Sorely Trying Days
Tombs
Torche
Weekend Nachos
What the Fuck!?
Young Widows
Zero Boys

All Ages After shows:

@ The Murphy Building, Studio 8
1043 Virginia, Ave

Friday, July 17th

Slam Dunk
Cougar Den
In the Face of War
MINOR THREAT

Saturday, July 18th

World Eater
Sick Fix
Cross Examination
Stabbed by Words

Both all-ages shows start at 11pm, and are free for all fest atendees. $5-$10 sliding scale for non-fest goers. $$$$ goes to benefit the venue.

21+ After shows:

@ Zanie's Too
5914 E. 10th St

Friday, July 17th

Christ Beheaded
Harpoon
Lair of the Minotaur
7000 Dying Rats

Saturday, July 18th

Burn Heavy
Raise the Red Lantern
Forensics
Lords

We're on first, I'm glad we're not on last

Yeah, but this version is just Ian with Norm Westerberg, Ted Parsons, Algis Kizys and Jarboe

new Animals & Men EP is pretty awesome. The first cut is v v catchy, as is "Dreaming of Babylon" imho.

bone awl rocked it last night, so direct and no bullshit, like a machine

think they're playing nyc this friday?

remaining bone awl dates

a hoos should see this tour in austin

# Wallingford , CT June 17th (Wednesday)- Cherry Street Station-491 N. Cherry St. Ext.
# New York City, NY June 19th (Friday)- Fontana's-105 Eldridge st.
# Philadelphia, PA June 23rd (Tuesday)- Disgraceland - with INFERNAL STRONGHOLD
# Richmond, VA June 24th (Wednesday)- Nara Sushi-1309 W Main St.
# Atlanta, Ga June 26th (Friday)- Eyedrum-290 Martin Luther King Jr Dr S
# Nashville, Tn June 27th (Saturday)
# St Louis, MO June 28th (Sunday)- Cranky Yellow - 2847 Cherokee St.
# Kansas City, KC June 29th (Monday) - The Riot Room-4048 Broadway
# Tulsa, OK June 30th (Tuesday) - Pinkeye-1539 e. 11th st.- w/ Thornspawn
# Denton, TX July 2nd (Thursday) - House of Tinnitus-628 Lakey St.
# Austin TX July 3rd (Friday)- Red 7-611 E 7th St
# El Paso, TX July 6th (Monday)
# Albuquerque, NM July 7th (Tuesday) - 202 Harvard Dr
# Phoenix, AZ July 9th (Thursday)
# Las Vegas, NV July 10th (Friday)- Yayo Taco-4632 S. Maryland Pkwy.

Saw Amebix last night, great show. Support was Leech Woman, who were pretty great, never heard of them before but apparently they've been around for ages, kinda industrial-noise-punk, covered Big Black etc. And Inner Terrestrials but y'know lol SKA PUNK.

Leechwoman had an album on Alternative Tentacles a while back, albeit in what you might call a wilderness period for the label

o rly? I did not know that. When they came on stage and this kinda Japanese-noisecore-like SCREE started up I was like aha this isn't going to be your usual crappy Underworld support band (how many gigs does Dragster play there with totally inappropriate headliners, are they friends with the promoter or something)

idk if this is really the right thread for this but I've just gotten super into the new Loved Ones EP. Half originals plus Springsteen & Strummer covers which ok sure obvious but they pretty much fuckin rock.

Shitty Limits "limits appear" 7" & "Espionage" 7". Really great fast, energetic punk rock with snotty UK vocals.
They have an LP out too but I haven't heard it yet.

new Future of the Left is tearing it up right now

otm

i don't know how the mclusky/FoTL dudes managed to come up in the UK and still rip this hard, it's like polar bears that somehow managed to survive in the desert or something

Ha ha. Aren't they Welsh? Maybe that's the difference.

yeah maybe ppl still bring it in wales or they hate the english enough or something not to get all pussified

Ha ha. Aren't they Welsh? Maybe that's the difference.

If it was I'd probly be on here pimping my friends' bands but nah. If anything it might be attributable to them not really being sceney types... like there's a lot of twee indie kerfuffle round here sort of in the Los Campesinos slipstream, and there's always been quite a lot of punk and HC kids, but they or Mclusky never rilly had anything to to with that

i should hear that new fotl record...haven't kept up on the post mclusky stuff from those dudes other than hearing the shooting @ unarmed men record and not thinking much of it at the time

also after getting lost driving around bmore over the weekend while my friend made me keep replaying "art school asshole" i have to reiterate: the bundle of fags 7" RULES!

new mayyors 12" is a crunchy lil piece

I guess I'm not expecting most folks on this to be thrilled by the idea of a UK band doing the Oxes/Don Cab/Shellac instrumental thing but I've been spending this evening listening to 'Tanknology' by That Fucking Tank and it does that thing really well IMO. For the last song on the record they just thieve the riff from 'Aerodynamic' by Daft Punk, for jokes. Top men.

no one is talking about Rusted Shut? Horrible first world music criticism problem.

ive never heard them, actually! a lot of people were talking about them on last year's thread, though...

got the grass widow 12" on make-a-mess. not as good as id hoped, but a nice catchy listen. listening now to crocodiles' s/t LP. i gotta start listening to this stuff before i buy it -- theres a few good songs here, but a lot of boring wussy chaff.

new Rusted Shut "Dead" on Load Records (paid placement)

I played the Rusted Shut song "KILL" on my radio show last week.

Rusted Shut - Rehab is great

Anyone familiar with any of these bands:

Logic Problem, Mob Rules, Black Time, Nowhere Fast and Ironclad

They're playing (along with aforementioned Shitty Limits) at an all ages show in London next weekend and I'm thinking of taking my 12 yr old nephew who's staying with us at the moment - his previous exposure to punk is Green Day and the Ramones but he's currently into Cradle of Filth & Cannibal Corpse, I think he'd probably still like a hardcore gig tho

I'm seeing Logic Problem on Sunday, what I heard sounded good assuming you like the whole 1984 redux thing in the first place. Mob Rules are quasi-powerviolence from I think Leeds; their EP is really solid. Black Time had a record on In The Red if I'm thinking of the right band - didn't do a lot for me but I've heard a lot of ppl rep for them since. I know dudes in Ironclad a bit but haven't listened to them - I guess they do that sort of neo-youth crew HC that I don't often like all that much.

assuming you like the whole 1984 redux thing in the first place
This is a valid assumption.

I thought Black Time were a neo-garage band - kinda weird they're on this bill. I'm not hugely into the youth-crew era stuff. Although I do like some Youth Of Today, so who knows.

I think I'll take him to it tho, he's getting a bit bored I think. I've been playing him Napalm Death, Melvins, Darkthrone etc probably not music for the punk thread but I just wanted to show him there's better stuff than Cradle of Filth :)

I guess I'm not expecting most folks on this to be thrilled by the idea of a UK band doing the Oxes/Don Cab/Shellac instrumental thing but I've been spending this evening listening to 'Tanknology' by That Fucking Tank

Oh hello! That'd be me, except 90% of the bands I saw from like 2003-2007 were this so a bit burnt out on it now... but since I have managed to see hardly any gigs this year and the local promoter who put on most of said shows has now decided that Justice synths + earnest Get-Capey post-emo vocals are the new thing, it's always nice to remember the good times

(Dug the last TFT album hard, which was kind of surprising since I'd seen them live and hated it. Might just've been grumpy because they were billed above Part Chimp, who were my pet favourite band of the time. Also I think the soundguy took a dislike to them and decided he didn't give a toss and wanted a smoke instead.)

Gave the Black Time LP a good few spins trying to convince myself I liked it, so something about it charmed me, but it seemed a bit thin. Would like to see them live in the hope that they'd be a little fiercer/darker than on record. Not so much "In The Red" as "tentatively considering a fresh coat of magnolia" or er something. (This is wildly unfair but what else to do with a horrible cheeseball line that sprung into my head and I have no other home for)

Pretty sure Tanknology is better than their last one although it's been a while so maybe I should revisit

i like a bunch of black time stuff - the thing is that they have a few different sounds, and they kinda veer from one to the other from single to single and album to album. the one that does trashcan (rubbish bin?) shouty boy-girl indie garage punk is the one i like best, like the "dance party" 7", but the others have their charms as well, if not always the tunes. they have a ton of stuff to wade through but i like that 7", the new vague themes ep (which is an ornate one-sided 12" with an etched flipside, kinda ridiculous but also kinda awesome), and the newer ITR LP best. at gonerfest last year they were good not great, but i dunno how indicative that was of the typical live show.

black time side-band sexaphone has some fun stuff too if you have any <3 for bratmobile & ilk

yeah rubbish bin'll do :)

I like some Bratmobile, sometimes they're a little too inept even for me tho

haha yeah i hear you, totally.

also 69 i got my mayyors ep and yeah it is great!

other stuff i've been meaning to mention here:

davila 666 stuff (douchemaster 7", hozac 7", itr lp) is all pretty good imo! hooky puerto rican garage punk/greaser rock, reminds me in places of the first king khan/bbq album.

sneakers "children into people" 7" killin it for me. cave side project, kinda postpunky, propulsive/cutting/kinda funky drumming, catchy little rhythm riffs, reverbed spaced out vocals back in the mix.

sneaky pinks "i can't wait" 7" reissue - i love this song but there was no way in fuck i was gonna pay $60 for it on ebay so hey, thank you reissue, for making this dilemma no longer relevant.

ean eraser "illegitimate love" 7" - this is not really new (last year or so?) but i've been listening to it a bunch again so hey. punk song, y'know? verges on powerpop maybe a little but i love it and i don't really like powerpop at all. internet is super informative.

"so hey" competing w/"7"" (whoa is that the proper punctuation? do you stick with a " if you're citing a measurement within a quotation or do you modify it to ' as you would when quoting speech?) for most-utilized tidbit in above post

change the " to inch imho. 7-inch

Three listens in to Furture of the Left, and trying to hold up my jaw, and I'm not even that into 90s T&G. I really need to mull this over, but this set is kicking me way harder than anything McLusky ever did.

k so here are three incredible local (montreal) punk bands who have started existing really recently and are all three-way tied for my new favourite band ever.

dead wife (www.myspace.com/deadwifemontreal) play really perfect lo-fi, girl-fronted noise punk.

tonitix (www.myspace.com/tonitix) play really simple yet creative garage-punk, and every song fucking explodes.

ultrathin (www.myspace.com/ultrathinmtl) are on a more soupy, fuller sounding tip than dead wife of tonitix and are only thirds as fast but just as cool and worth while. also unlike the two other bands i mentioned they have actually released music! it is a split cassette with twin crystals (who sort of suck) out on cool montreal cassette label campaign for infinity (www.myspace.com/campaignforinfinity).

enjoy!

I'm seeing Logic Problem on Sunday, what I heard sounded good assuming you like the whole 1984 redux thing in the first place.

― Real Men Play On Words (DJ Mencap), Friday, July 3, 2009 1:44 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah this was pretty killer... just really fast and efficient and raw Die Kreuzen type swill. I'm not gonna pretend they're the band that'll change your mind if you think rehashing 80s HC is a waste of time but it was as on point as you can realistically expect. Shitty Limits were even better, had a great night basically. One of the Limits dudes has a label called Static Shock - bought a 7" on said label by Young Governor (newest member of Fucked Up IIRC) which is quite poppy retropunk, decent on first play

I think I will probably go to that.

Rehashing 80s HC is no waste of my time :)

anyone heard the new JR yet? it's kinda NZ'ed out in places, jingle-jangle electric and acoustic guitars and some keyboard stuff; reminds me of the bats. not really sure what i think so far...i didn't like it one bit on first listen but it sounds better today.

I'm siked as hell to be among people where we don't even have to say Jay Reatard much less explain who that is but that did take me a minute I will say.

I like the album and can't say much constructive about it now other than there are some killer songs

I didn't go to the Logic Problem gig in the end but might go down to see the Wankys tonight.

I just got hold of the new JR so haven't listened to it. Not sure how much I'll like it since I preferred Blood Visions to the more recent stuff.

Listening to 'Primary Colours' by Eddy Current Suppression Ring for the first time - getting a UK release on Melodic of all labels - pretty funny (if yr a bit lame) that the last thing they put out was on Iron Lung's label. Also it says here that they won the Aussie versh of the Mercury Music Prize! I like this though, v much into 80s postpunk indie territory

I'm siked as hell to be among people where we don't even have to say Jay Reatard much less explain who that is

yeah this thread has alot of potential, i feel all we do though is pop up every few days to announce some new release but nothing ever really gets discussed at all/enough. anyways so this has leaked?

sometimes i think this thread gets a little too focused on the sorta garagey/neo-lo-fi axis of stuff....so..

Here's a big burly band from Chicago called The Brokedowns....sometimes they recall like um...Fugazi meets No Means No but with a dude from Pegboy singing...or something

playing a show with them on aug 1st in mpls should be cool! i'm kinda totally loving this shit right now

http://www.myspace.com/thebrokedowns

yo dudes, god bless this thread and all who sail with it, but yes, i agree that a) it can focus too heavily on the neo-lofi/bedroom stuff and b) we sometimes just note what we're listening to and then disappear. so up with people, discussion.

Thumbs up on the new JR. He's become a pretty great vocalist over the years, I noticed - a surprising amount of range/different moods on it.

I guess it's not that surprising, now that I think of it - I guess just more noticeable when condensed on a 12 song album rather than spread over a ton of singles.

i prefer jangly acoustic guitars & keyboards jay to punk jay - matador singles 08 is def my favorite release by him - so i have some pretty high expectations for this album and tbh it didn't wow me like matador 08 - no "see/saw" or "hiding hole" - but im willing to believe that it will grow on me because his songs are all sort of inconspicuous. the final few songs (and the rework of "i'm watching you") are great tho just like they were on matador 08. i reeeeally like the two singles too - esp "it aint gonna save me" which has an insanely catchy riff - so we'll see. i'm pretty much expecting to love it eventually.

the song where he sings like basically in falsetto is pretty awesome too

yeah i think "it ain't gonna save me" is a jam, tbh i was disappointed there weren't any other songs that hooked me as immediately. but as previously noted i'm liking it more now; i think it's a grower

also matt those dudes sound good, what's yr new band like?

I went to see the Wankys tonight - the predominantly crusty/leather, bristles, studs & acne crowd mostly left to the bar after War System played, there was only about 10 of us in the audience, but it was pretty great - if you like that 80s Japanese noisecore stuff like Confuse, Gai etc or new stuff like Lebenden Toten you'll probably dig it. The whole thing is done as a homage/pastiche of that stuff, even down to nicking the band name/logo/album title off the Swankys.

I'll probably listen to the new JR this week, still not sure if I'll like it but I was listening to that 7" with the Go-Betweens cover on it and I did like that stuff so maybe I can deal with him leaving the punk behind a bit.

just d/l'd this Tonstartssbandht album. fuckn siick!

New Lovvers album is good. Maybe it will grow to be very good, I'm just now playing it. More British chancers - FYI tho they are playing 14 US dates starting this week, inc some with Psychedelic Horseshit

also matt those dudes sound good, what's yr new band like?

― pretzel walrus, Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:40 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ah not punk or even rock...playing bass in a live band for a hip hop group, should be a weird bill

i was pretty impressed by lovvers' myspace stuff, should i get the album? they're playing montreal with dead wife, who i posted about upthread, next week so i will probably end up at the show either way.

I think it's the best thing they've done on initial plays so yeah - says Aug 10 release here so I dunno if they'll have it with them (they should have 'Think' their 12" from last year, tho)

Is there gonna be a Lovver / Lover throw down? I'll rep for the single v Lover.

single-v lover has some good stuff, yeah. haven't heard double-vversion.

back on board the "meh" train re: new reatard. it's ok, there are some chill tunes, but the single's the best song on there and too much of the rest just blahs around. and i liked most of the matador singles, so it's not the less aggro direction that's failing to connect.

ty segall/black time split is awesome! dude just sort of flipped out and released 23 records at once -- im catchin up slowly...

at this point i guess i'm so late you could say that i slept on sleepin' on mayyors huh?

good stuff though! : )

yeah, really dig the mayyors 12". i guess there was a single a while back to, which i missed.
if you like that mayyors record i can't recommend enough the Watery Love "I"m A Skull" 7". I know i've repped for it hard on this thread already but it's really good, gnarly, kinda sludgey punk.

cool will check out thx ian.

the truth is that i will still stan so hard for psychedelic horseshit, and the SHITGAZE ANTHEMS 12" and the LIVE AT POMPEII cd-r are so so so tight

band i just found called Gun Outfit from Portland

http://hypem.com/artist/gun+outfit

pretty cool! reminds me of like a jangling unwound or something fronted by david berman from silver jews.....def probably sounds like one of those OG pac northwest bands i've never heard.....

but good tunes i thought

yeah I have their album, got a few good tunes on it

uh don't really hear any silver jews in it but yeah the unwound comparison is definitely apt

they aren't like the silver jews at all but check that song on the link i posted - in the dark - i swear he's a dead ringer for berman in the first part of the song!

Oh I see what you mean; yeah he sings in Berman's range for sure

Just back from loads of old school punk at the Wicker Man festival - most notably, Penetration, who were in good form, and obviously enjoying themselves.

enjoying the new pissed jeans, so obnoxious

would someone (chicago people, maybe?) please defend mother of tears (ex-ponys, ex-brides) for me? their new hozac single pretty much sucks on first listen.

art thieves hozac b-side is great and jarring, a-side is ok. white mystery going on now!

mpls weirdo garage legend Michael Yonkers has another album with The Blind Shake out....so fucking great...he just had to retire from playing out cuz of health reasons :(

still, this rips

http://www.myspace.com/theblindshake

i haven't heard mother of tears but for me the only good aspect of the ponys was ian (jad fair-voiced m.f.) who left the band after the first album, started a band called submarine races that had an awesome album on in the red last year, and now has a new band called maximum wage that i haven't seen yet

was ian the one who sounded like richard hell to me a little bit?

no, I think he was the other guy. Ian's the guy who did "Shodowbox", right?

yeah's the one who sang on "shadowbox"

the new Vampire Hands is great! It's called "Hannah in the Mansion", i got the vinyl last night...

unfortunately it's pretty much sold out already, it's that St. Ives imprint that does really short runs and won't repress...was only 300 with handmade artwork...

available on itunes though, good stuff

Oh, damn, I was liking those guys much more than I was liking iTunes.

Anyone going to Fuck Yeah Fest or FYF Save Our Parks or whatever the fuck they're calling it?

sup dudes, I still love Rusted Shut.

Haven't been listening to a ton of this stuff (new stuff, anyway) lately. I heard Personal and the Pizzas, and I guess I admired their enthusiasm for pizza.

new blues control is their best yet imo

new since "local flavor"?

I'm going to the FYF parks thing, for sure.

new since "local flavor"?

nah that's the one. not that new i guess, I'm just slow

it's newish, i was just worried i had missed some new CD-r or tape or something. i really really like "local flavor" a lot.

bought the Eat Skull "Wild and Inside" LP the same day, the first two tracks are pretty good (esp. Stick to the Formula) but it seems to fall way off after that, nothing's stickin with me

― dmr, Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:14 PM (25 seconds ago)

yeah i agree completely w/this, i gave this so many chances :(

― some dude, don't make it dad (k3vin k.), Wednesday, May 13, 2009 1:15 AM (3 hours ago)

oh noooooooooo! i have been proselytizing this record so hard this week. every song is great. along with the bitters 12", this is my favorite thing all year.

Finally got round to listening to this and tbh I'm with dmr & k3vin, this is nowhere near as good as Sick To Death :(

It's not shit or anything, I like Stick To The Formula, Heaven's Stranger, Dawn In The Face, and the sort of New Order-ish Oregon Dreaming but nothing is knocking my socks off.

Cool blast of stooges-y punk from a band in Pittsburgh called Kim Phuc

http://www.myspace.com/kimphuc

<3 kim phuc <3

the wormwood star/freak out the squares 7" was one of last year's dark-horse favorites for me!

"Killed By Rooms" is the standout track for me on Wild and Inside. Been listening to it more and more in the last few months. Total grower, imo. Haven't gone back to Sick to Death in a while but I probably will soon.

i fucking love killed by rooms! also all the other songs.

im gonna listen to that record again

not crazy about this girls album, it wd be much better w/ a different vocalist imo

Going to see Jello Biafra's new band tomorrow. I liked the stuff he did with the Melvins, I figure this new band will be along the same lines?

Some guy wrote an I Hate Jello article bashing him for playing DK songs with the Melvins, saying he claimed to write the DK songs and if he did then he should be able to write new songs instead of playing old stuff, conveniently ignoring the fact that he did 2 albums of new songs with the Melvins and er I haven't heard anything about the reformed Dead Kennedys writing any new songs...

man, MOTHERFUCK the reformed dead kennedys. what's the new band? who's in it?

New band is called the Guantanamo School Of Medicine and has various dudes from bands like Victim's Family and Rollins Band in it. Album's not out yet so dunno what it sounds like.

the new reigning sound is predictably great!

damn though this is pretty mellow and 60s...but hell why not? dude's been around forever.

i can't think of anyone who can write good old fashioned rock n' roll songs like this and be this good at it. it's like they are instantly familiar and comforting but they don't seem predicable or lame either...or fakey. dude is mr. oblivion is a genius basically.

oh also got that 13th Chime singles comp reissue thing! good stuff...sort of reminds me of a less shouty/metallic early Killing Joke, but with a more funky bass thing like Gang of Four or something, but a goth Gang of Four

i think the Cultural Decay reissue LP (done by the same label, sacred bones, as the 13th Chime) is even better. Check it out if you see it 'round.

And yeah, new Reigning Sound is great. Greg is one of the most knowledgeable guys I know about sixties pop/garage/r'n'b and tbh i think part of what makes him a great songwriter is hisintimate familiarity with the sound he wants to create.

How was Jello, Colonel?

I downloaded that 13th Chime thing, haven't listened to it yet tho.

Jello was pretty damn awesome actually. New stuff is along the same lines as the Jelvins and they played 5 Dead Kennedys songs, new lyrics for California Uber Alles about Arnie etc. Jello was stagediving into the crowd and came out covered in fake blood. Pretty much as good as I could hope for at this point in time. Also I didn't know who the support bands would be and they turned out to be Moral Dilemma & the Restarts, both of whom are nothing new or special but decent enough bands compared to most of the bands that tend to get booked to open for touring US bands these days. I'm looking at you, Dragster, Mike TV & Love & a 45.

looking forward to the jacuzzi boys album, supposed to be out next month

Missed Eat Skull at the FYF (I was standing in line, I think). Still, Fucked Up, Mika Miko, Lightning Bolt, all pretty great. I crapped out halfway through No Age's set—it's weird how much backlash they seem to get from my pals here in LA, which seems totally undeserved. I mean, they're pretty much doing the same thing that they've always been doing, fuzzy punkish duo stuff, and you either like it or you don't. I dunno, maybe it's because I don't know them personally, but I was kinda shocked at the number of people who were like, fuck those guys, they're assholes.

i agree; its dumb. people have too-short attention spans for bands sometimes.

the locust.

charls bronson.

short songs, but still no time.

No Age are awesome and they seemed hella nice that one time I saw them.

weren't so great live the time I saw em but I like their records

Only time I saw No Age was after Jay Reatard and Times New Viking and I thought they were pretty mediocre, they have some good songs but I can't see getting excited about them.

Being old (at least for hipster punk rock) means that it's hard for me to get totally excited about anybody, but No Age has put on some pretty great shows. Like most bands that traffic in the heavy distortion fuzz, I think they do better in smaller venues; outdoors No Age loses a lot of sound that would normally be reflected back. I'd never seen Times New Viking before, and it was kinda funny how, I don't know, generic pop-punk they sounded without the fucked-up production. But they were pretty entertaining at least, much more so than The Thermals, who they were up against.

The only band that really has killed it for me live in a while was seeing The Oh Sees at The Smell, where their claustrophobic echo really played well with the horrible shotgun flat architecture of the venue. But I got ragged on for liking those guys too.

Then again, it amazes me that these same folks are totally fucking psyched about Har Mar Superstar, who seems like a third-rate Quintron (who's already Prince+Mental Illness).

I usually just put the blame on the mainstreaming of indie rock and the tendency to accept "quirky" in the place of "weird" or "disturbing."

You got ragged on for liking Thee Oh Sees? Fuck that, man, they're so great.

ghosts, the new marked men LP, is pretty solid. one of my favourites so far this year.

Just catching up with Ghosts, but it more than just solid. It starts out fast and catchy, and I'm like, "hey!". Then about halfway thorugh, I'm all "hey this is getting louder and faster and catchier!". And by the last two songs I'm lying in the road with tire marks on my back going, "waurrrrghah". Their interlocking-gears guitar work is on the level of Hot Snakes/DLJ. Best Dirtnap since Busy Signals.

I like Oh Sees soo much better than any of the other echo-chamber shitfi stuff.

that sounds like a fucking awesome album.

john dwyer is ALWAYS using that one echo effect (and it mostly rules), and now ty segall is always using it too

Dwyer cracks me up every time I see him ... Ty Segall is okay, they seem to be omnipresent right now.

the oh sees at the smell was one of my favorite shows in the past year

they continue to be good, even with the changes in personnel and sound. I remember liking them when I first saw them at some douchey bar five years ago, when it was just Dwyer and one other dude.

yes it seems like the market has been flooded with Ty Segall releases. He also joined Sic Alps, apparently.

I just see listings showing them playing everywhere ...

I only know Segall from playing with the Sic Alps. Is there anywhere I should start with his other stuff?

all his stuff is pretty solid IMO. castle face LP and goner LP are tight -- otherwise, theres an LP comp of singles/splits/cassettes, a few recent uncollected singles, and a split LP with black time. the perverts' (his other band) 7" is pretty good too!

I say start with the Castle Face LP, then move on from there. The Goner LP took time to grow on me, but almost all of his stuff is good.

Really enjoyed this interview with the dude from Lamps that Matt out of Pissed Jeans did here: http://www.yellowgreenred.com/?p=783

Been forever since I posted here...

Started picking up Ty Segall stuff earlier this year on the basis of the Castle Face LP and that one Traditional Fools LP with the sunglass hamburgers on it. Horn the Unicorn & the Black Time split = crazy great, Lemons is growing on me. Saw him with Sic Alps and didn't even know it. Was super impressed though, cuz he's a better singer than primary Sic Alp (who's good and a nice guy besides, so no slam intended), and a MUCH better drummer than whoever does that job when Ty's up singing and playing guitar. Talked to him after and found out who he was. "Thailand" t-shirt shoulda maybe tipped me off... Saw him as himself w/ band at the Comet a few weeks back, and he was excellent. Slightly overshadowed by Jeff the Brotherhood, who were a total surprise.

Reatard's the best live show I've seen in the '09 (twice), along with Wooden Shjips, Shellac by far the worst (worsting even Wavves and Naked On the Vague, for which they deserve some kind of horrible medal).

Oh wait, Beets were sucky, too, though I still like their record.

hey, welcome back

Hey thanks, Edward. Plus hi.

man i've been meaning to post on this thread a bunch too. i just moved down to NC and we've been getting a ton of awesome shows over the last few weeks - saw the box elders at a house party (still haven't heard that record, though they're a kickass live band and the 7" rules), then the beets and airwaves the next week (beets were meh but i like their records too, airwaves were good stuff), and then last night another house party w/yussef jerusalem, thomas function and spiderbags, where everyone killed it. YJ did a burzum cover, which was kinda funny/awesome.

I wasn't bowled over by the Box Elders album - I love the 7" tho.

the Mantles lp is just out and growing on me on repeated listens. and that new Sic Alps single too.

seeing Reatard, Nobunny & Box Elders tomorrow night!

PS anybody heard the Almighty Defenders yet? King Khan & BBQ + Black Lips supergroop thing.

Box Elders LP didn't really impress me on the 1st few listens. I mean, I dug it just fine, but it wasn't killing me or anything. Every time my ipod coughs a BE song, though, I think it's the best thing ever. I think the production isn't doing 'em any favors. Songs are mostly distinctive and memorable, but the blanket of lo-fi dust makes em all blur together when taken as a whole. Not in a good way.

Sic Alps 45 w/ the Donovan cover is a recent favorite. Much better than the US EZ stuff.

I had exactly the same impression of Box Elders here. So good in small doses, diminishing returns as a whole.

I saw Mt. Eerie about a week ago, and it was seriously awesome. I think I expected it to be a bit "indie-er" sounding, but it wasn't, and that was good.

PS anybody heard the Almighty Defenders yet? King Khan & BBQ + Black Lips supergroop thing.

heard the two promo tracks Vice sent out and liked em, haven't heard the rest yet

one (Cone of Light?) was more psych-y and one was like a sing-along stomper (like that one better) (actually here it is on pfork)

Listening to Audacity's Power Drowning atm. Recommended.

this just in: davila 666 is still fun, good stuff.

anyone got anything on bare wires? i like their milk n herpes 7" a bunch.

considering going to see cheap time and pinche gringo tonight. i'm kinda iffy on cheap time/novak, tbh. a few good songs ("spoiled brat," "handy man") but the LP left me kinda cold.

Ignorant of Bare Wires. Spun that 7" in the store, but it failed to kill me. Love Davila 666 though, especially the singles. Missed them when they played here live, in favor of Kid Thailand, but I'll get another chance in Portland in October (anyone else going to that free Garage Fest thing?). Cheap Time is okey.

man i wish i were going to that portland thing. all the bands are playing on one night though, right? at like five different venues?

Yeah, it's gonna be great! Four venues, one night -- Oct 17. The stuff I'm most interested in is largely confined to the two 21+ joints, with some slight spillover to the all ages venues. Figure I can catch at least half of the good stuff.

thee oh sees playing here next week

rad. not sure i see the natural fit between the punk/garage audience and scion buyers, but hey, what do i know

(xp)

(although edward that is also rad)

what are you talking about, I always hear scions driving by bumping the oh sees

Yeah, I evaded mention of the sponsor, for reasons of being kind of creeped out by it. Assume they figure that a good chunk of demographic will eventually clean up for work, kids, two-car garage ownership, etc. A good bet.

bare wires were baaaaaad in SF a couple months ago. maybe theyre more honed after some time on the road, but im not sure itd be worth finding out for me. the bassist jumps around a lot in this autistic-seeming way, which is cool enough. the drummer is pretty poor, though, and the lead dude just seems like the main character in an ABC FAMILY adaptation of dazed and confused: no charisma, no danger, but lots of long hair. i like the LP and 7" a lot, though, so it's kind of a toss-up. coulda been a bad night.

oh hey pete, did you ever get to see that band wild thing? i <3 their single.

i got their single and i like it, but havent seen em yet!

saw screaming females from nj last night: awes

i like them, but i havent gotten around to seeing them yet :(

I've had the opposite experience. Have heard great stories about the live show, but the records I've heard (a couple LPs and a split 45 with Jeff the Brotherhood) haven't done a thing for me. Appreciate the pwr shredding and earnest early SST vibe, but the tunes don't grab and the jammy parts wander too much for me to sustain interest.

I had only heard youtube vids before seeing them, I thought they were really good live fwiw.

I've also been really into Find Me a Drink Home by Cheap Girls lately -- think Husker Du/Replacements/Dino Jr.

anyone know if the christmas island LP is any good?

dag i wanna hear that one. really like that split 7" of theirs; been looking forward to more.

saw a pretty chill show last night - harlem, tv ghost and wizzard sleeve. harlem didn't make much of an impression - they had a few decent tunes, but i'm a little fried on that sorta sound at the moment. tv ghost and wizzard sleeve destroyed though, especially tv ghost. all sortsa aggro art-noise-hell in yr face kinda stuff, singer/guitarist had a james chancey thing going on. tunes peeked through the scree fairly often and they were good when they did. picked up their new one on in the red, but haven't had a chance to listen to it yet. wizzard sleeve were a real treat too - heavy keyboard drone psych-punk. less arresting performance-wise, but i found myself enjoying them just as much as the set went on.

Like all those bands, though I've heard the least by TV Ghost. And I know what you mean about Harlem's sound, but the tunes are there, on the LP anyway. Love Wizzard Sleeve. Good cop. Unfortunately, that tour ain't coming anywhere near the West Coast. Both bands only playing in the Midwest, East Coast and South.

otm on harlem live; the melodies don't make it through the sound of their loud guitars live but on the album they're pretty undeniable.

Girls = getting all the love Harlem should be getting

I like both bands, fwiw, just saying

yup i think "south of france" is better than anything girls have ever written. where girls will drive through a solid melody and then just swagger around for most of a song, harlem keep busy banging out the hooks. saw both of these bands play at a bar at sxsw last year, and i guess this partly has to do with them being a fun garage rock band, but harlem really stole the show.

YES YES YES

http://www.last.fm/event/1261257+Sex+Vid+at+The+Grosvenor+on+26+November+2009

Wish they were doing more dates :(

lol @ the band name Sex Dungeon (and Wizzard's Sleeve, while I'm here)

hey punx!

urinals live recording from recent show at turf club in st paul :) : )

http://emptystapes.blogspot.com/2009/09/urinals-turf-club.html

the urinals were disappointing in SF a few months ago :(

Kinda irrelevant but my friend Lionel from Florida was most distressed to find out his name rhymes with Urinal in the UK.

I have never seen the Urinals, even though I love them so.

Any thoughts on Hunx and his Punx? Checked out the vids on youtube after a rave review on the Aquarius site, and it's wild, campy pop-punk stuff.

TV Ghost were gonna play my in my basement about a year ago or something but their van broke down, was so bummed (though the weekend wound up ruling epically in spite of this iirc). That LP is pretty great.

Any thoughts on Hunx and his Punx?

my friend who went to Gonerfest liked em, I haven't heard them myself

Here ya go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtKn9NwaDqk

dunno if it's really "punk" but i know we've talked about them in this thread before: new dutchess and the duke is so dang good

i got a really poorly labeled download of some tv ghost release and i think it's their newest one but i can't seem to find out. track listing is

xxxx xxxx
the mold
the nihilist
nodoz
lee is free
the amputee
babel
circus
long talk

also was this released this year? it's definitely the best punk freakout i've heard in a long time, like they really know how to get wild in a mostly neurotic epileptic spasming sorta way, but know not to draw it out for too long.

That's the one from last year (or was it 2007?), self-titled. The newer one is called Cold Fish and is just as good as far as I'm concerned.

then last night another house party w/yussef jerusalem, thomas function and spiderbags

man i saw spiderbgas at the diviest of dives a year or so back and thought they were great. was i just especially high? kinda of a garage/punk head on collision with The Band...

spiderbags

still getting warmed up to the new king khan & bbq show album, but the title track is i think the best song they've ever written by a pretty wide margin, and i'm a big fan. they're definitely shedding a lot of their punk gruff and going for like, classic songwriting on a lot of these tracks. also it sounds like trying to overcome their limitations as a two-man band. it's fuller sounding, probably due to increased reverb or something. it's really noticeable, and probably on the whole a good thing.

they're definitely shedding a lot of their punk gruff and going for like, classic songwriting on a lot of these tracks

That kinda makes it sound bad - dunno I like King Khan & BBQ Show WAY more than King Khan & his Shrines where he's doing more classic songs - the punky snotty stuff is the good stuff!

the title track is i think the best song they've ever written by a pretty wide margin, and i'm a big fan.

Better than "Waddling Around"? Cuz I think that's the bar, and it's pretty high. ("Captain Captain" and "Why Don't You Lie?" = runners-up.)

my previous forever favourite king khan & bbq show song was "i'll never belong," and tbh it might be the newness of "invisible girl" that's making me say it, but i don't think so. the great thing about invisible girl is that it's still retro, but in a more ambiguous way. you can point at "waddlin around" and say 'doo-wop' or '50s rock,' but you can't exactly do that for "invisible girl."

there is still some punk snot, it's just toned town a bit; nothing quite as battered as "zombies" and nothing that sounds anything close to "learn my language." the second half is pretty much their standard garage rock jams, with great scuzzy guitar solos and stuff. i listened to the album a couple more times since my last post and i full on love the album now. such a wonderful band.

I do really like the doo-wop stuff they do, just like the KK & BBQ sound much better than either of their solo stuff, although I guess BBQ isn't far off that on his solo stuff.

yeah i love the doo-wop too, but this is good you should really check it out. i don't mean to have sold it as a really significant leap forward in any direction, just noticed a couple changes of pace here and there-it's still very much exactly like their other albums.

Anybody seen the reunited Negative Approach. Yea, I know only 2 original members. I saw them back in the early '80s. Wow. They're gonna be in Baltimore Friday

There are only 2 original members in the group. I don't know them is what I mean

a few recent things i wanted to mention (all came out a while back, but i'm slow):

coconut coolouts - "punk house" 7-inch on ken rock. excellent. as goofy as ever, but tougher and rawer than most ccs tracks.

white wires - "pretty girl" 45 on trouble in mind. some of the best power-pop punk i've heard in ages. b-side's a little too nobunny, but "pretty girl" is killer

audacity - power drowning lp on burger. crazy, spastic pop/hc with a huge debt to early redd kross (& maybe the exploding hearts?). songs jump around all over the place like crazy, thrash hard, never go where you expect, but almost always bury two or three massive hooks in the mess. gets better every time i hear it.

stupid party - s/t mini lp on freedom school. dirgy, lethargic flipper-damaged punk that verges over into some kind of grungemetal sonic tarpit. no skills, only retarded monomaniacal riff bashing. very enjoyable if not classic.

tonstartssbandht are two crazy baldheaded florida weirdos who've recently moved to montreal and released a tonne of great music this year. they're touring the usa with ultrathin (who i've mentioned upthread) next week and if somehow any of you have any faith in my punk rock recommendation, try and make it to a gig. sometimes it's just vocal loops, sometimes it's sludge, and sometimes it's psychedelic garage punk, all of which are played with caveman simplicity and a creepy childishness.

stupid party - s/t mini lp on freedom school. dirgy, lethargic flipper-damaged punk that verges over into some kind of grungemetal sonic tarpit. no skills, only retarded monomaniacal riff bashing. very enjoyable if not classic.

^^^ fucking love this record & these dudes. one of 'em works at my fave diner in the 'hood.

Lovin the Electric Bunnies LP. Was kinda disappointed in the Jacuzzi Boys album.

thing about the jacuzzi boys rec, which i like and endorse, is that the first half is fantastic. everything up through "komi caricoles" just rules, but it seriously looses steam on the b-side. i just take it as a killer 1-sided record.

still havna heard the e bunnies.

Lovin the Electric Bunnies LP. Was kinda disappointed in the Jacuzzi Boys album.

― t. weiss, Thursday, December 3, 2009 9:28 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

love the EB, will eventually hear JB. their singles all kick ass!

Anybody seen the reunited Negative Approach.

Yeah, about 3 years ago, they rocked hard, go!

I've not been blown away by Jacuzzi Boys singles I've heard so far tbh. They're OK and all.

blind shake rules so hard

http://www.vimeo.com/8063088

So, what was the best stuff this year? I nominate that Cheveu single (Like a Deer in the Headlights) for best of year. Thee Oh Sees killed it, in general, all year, as did (The) Intelligence. Album-wise... Marked Men, Smith Westerns, TV Ghost, The Yolks? Loved all of those. Oh, and the Young Governor Stuff was great, too.

(don't know why I capitalized stuff up above)

talked about some of my favorite stuff on the worth listening to in 2009 thread. includes: audacity, mayyors, cheveu (cheveau lp), intelligence's crepuscule w pac man, oh sees, little ty segalls everywhere, stupid party, shitty limits, jeff the brotherhood, early cold cave comp, black pus EP, bunch of other stuff i forget.

sometimes i go to punk rock record store and realize that actual punk people would not consider anything i listen to punk rock, and that whatever they do listen to, i think is bad yelling.

Scalping the Guru by El Jesus de Magico was this year, right? Add that to my list if so.

I just got the Audacity, and a friend just recommended Shitty Limits - hopefully they'll be winners. I love Cheveu, but the Cheveau LP wasn't my favorite (I pretty much think it's their worst release).

yes to all what contenderizer said (especially mayyors and shitty limits) and off the top of my head add to that list fnu ronnies, davila 666, and daily void.

sometimes i go to punk rock record store and realize that actual punk people would not consider anything i listen to punk rock, and that whatever they do listen to, i think is bad yelling.

Is there stuff you consider "good yelling"? Just curious.

yeah, most of what i like in punk store is good yelling. plus a lot of metal. and i wasn't right about punk store anyway, because they also listen to 100,000 different versions of screeching weasel, of which the problem isn't yelling.

screeching weasel has other problems.

king of yelling:

http://www.poisonpie.com/sounds/haino/images/2_4a.gif

my memory is not what it once is - you're gonna have to tell me who that is.

oh, it's keiji haino. japanese guy who yells a lot. saw him a few years back <3. also like negative approach/laughing hyenas. brannon = ace yelling.

but you don't like "saxophone skree + convulsive drumming"?

is that something i said? it sounds like something i'd say...

and i mostly don't like whatever that would describe (european free music? it's coming back to me now), but then sometimes i do. thing about KH is that i'm appreciating him as much as the music. the persona, the dance & performance art aspects, the sui generis selfmade art spectacle he offers.

the sound alone is something else. frankly, i find many (most?) non-fushitsusha KH recordings fairly difficult to tolerate. too shrill, abrasive, chaotic. but a good live show is always accessible, no matter how harsh the noise.

it is in quotes because it is something you said. Is it the fact that it lacks a certain structure?

it's in part that it lacks what i think of as structure, but also because it doesn't do what i want music to do. i think of the relationship between music and me as being primarily physical. music moves a certain way and sounds a certain way and thus compels a sympathetic response. dance being the most basic version of this.

i can certainly enjoy the sensation of having waves of noise peel my skull back, but i prefer that it be anchored to a rhythmic skeleton my body can understand. or at least to an ambient drone i can inhabit comfortably. if the convulsive factor becomes dominant, i lose the ability to physically connect.

that's maybe why a lot of very harsh and even convulsive 60s/70s spiritual free jazz does appeal to me. because it seems as though the music - jazz music, the swing of it - is still present in and under the noise. like the music is trying to get out through the noise.

fwiw, i'm at this place recently where i'm finding a lot of value in music i'd previously written off. especially prog and art music of a non-punk sort. realizing just how closed-minded i've been about certain things, attached to restrictive (received) ideas about what's cool and what's not. enjoying letting that go, and i'm sure that there's a lot of stuff i need to revisit.

I hear that - I started listening to Magma, and now find myself listening to King Crimson. But - I get what you're saying about the rhythmic skeleton - there's definitely a range of free music or things that could be described as "saxophone skree + convulsive drumming" in terms of departure from that skeleton.

LOVE both magma & king crimson. dunno why, but king crimson have always been exempt from my distaste for prog. perhaps because they were some of the first such music i ever heard, before i had my baffles up. and magma are a universe unto themselves. it's hard to hate a universe.

One of favorite bands (that is now defunct) did a cover of De Futura, which led me to magma appreciation.

now i wanna know who. google sez the flying luttenbachers did it, but i thought they was still active. have never heard many (any?) magma covers myself, but then i'm quite new to them. really only know attahk, udu wudu and MDK.

thread has lost most of its punk points

xp - they broke up two years ago.

That Jeff the Brotherhood sounds really solid from a first listen.

jeff the brotherhood album is very good, esp "heavy damage", "the tropics", "bone jam", "mind ride". only complaints i have are that the sequencing is odd (definitely not front-loaded), and that 've already got a lot of the best tracks on singles - but those are minor quibbles.

plus wanted to 2nd samosa the gib on davila 666. keep forgetting to mention it, but excellent album w lotsa variety and a surprisingly high level of pop craftsmanship. was hoping it'd pick up fans outside the ITR/termbo/goner orbit - dunno to what extent that's happened though.

JTB and davila put on two of the best shows i saw in 09. kinda funny that they both also put out lps that don't begin to hint at the craziness they're capable of live. not bad records by any means, but surprising sedate, given the raw materials.

felt the same about several of the shows i liked best this year, especially jay reatard, wooden shjips, AFGCT. all put out records that are almost criminally misleading wr2 what they're capable of onstage. which doesn't make them bad records by any means, but the contrast is jarring.

Just to veer off topic again for a second, I saw the Luttenbachers cover De Futura in a basement in my town in like 2002 or 03 and it was very good. It was the trio lineup with two bass players.

Jay's show this year in town was really good. But he fired that band and seems to have gone off the deep end according to reports coming out of Memphis. So volatile.

just listened to jeff the brotherhood lp again. kinda regret mentioning it here, on punk thread. it is so not punk. kinda sounds like a hybrid of fu manchu & the cars. stoner riffs + minimal 80s pop. live there's an OTT DMBQ/monotonix vibe, but the album's pretty restrained.

is great and everybody should hear it tho

I saw them live earlier this year, and they were good, but definitely had the classic rock/stoner riffs thing going. They don't play with fire or knock over trash cans like Monotonix, they just play their instruments.

where'd you see them, sh?

Oakland, where I live.

check

agree they don't go crazy overboard with the "showmanship", but there's definitely a theatrical element. at least there was when i saw em - heavy guitar posing, kit destruction, etc. plus the music's pretty cartoony to begin with. not so far from like turbonegro, guitar wolf, hellacopters, (though a lot more humble and genuine in their rock god shtick).

well yeah, but not to the OTT extent of Monotonix.

i have never heard that band, but i met jeff the brotherhood in a diner near my house and i talked to them about kate bush & madonna.

you should see them! great band and excellent dudes. talked to them for a while after the show, but mostly (ok entirely) not about kate bush & madonna.

i almost never go out to see live music honestly. i'm an old curmudgeon.

i see lots of live music but don't listen to enough recorded new/contemporary music, so perhaps we balance each other out.

i don't listen to a lot of new music either. i have to keep up with it to an extent cuz of my job, but... not at home.

heh - i see lots of live music cuz of my "job."

i just like going out to see bands, and sometimes i buy their records and bring them home to listen to.

full circle

good for you, more people should be like you.

yeh, nowhere near enough middle-aged white guys in the world

oh wait, this isn't the metal thread.

http://www.ugo.com/images/articles/000903600/903558_big.jpg

hipsters...

anyway, i was reading this angry-making dusted review and it was making me all angry. who is patrick masterson and why is he such a dink about the eat skull record?

i wasn't aware that the band were "in such an important position regarding the long-term legitimacy of the current underground", so i guess i'm insufficiently bummed about their failure to immanentize the eschaton, but it's still a damn good record, given that they seem to be total weed hippies.

kinda bummed i didn't nominate it on best of 09 thread, but not too much cuz no one would have voted for it anyway. curse you, the double ex! and yes it does belong in punk thread because they kinda rip off the misfits in one song.

I love Dusted, even when they're really, really wrong. Y'know?

i also for the record love dusted and recommend the regular reading of plus have nothing against patrick masterson who i'm sure is otherwise charming and am apparently way too fond of "kinda" and "bummed" for the record

contenderizer - if you want to pm me i can tell you eat skull-related stories vis a vis "the underground", but I won't post about it here.

Glad I'm not the only Dusted reader. Felt like I was for a little while.
I like Wild and Inside a lot. All my friends in Portland HATE Eat Skull.
Hey guys new Eddy Current Suppression Ring album comes out early next year.
New track on their myspace page.

I read Dusted too, from time to time. Rob from Eat Skull lived in Oakland for a while before moving to Portland and starting that band.

my favorite "P"(ON-IU)R of 2009:

guinea worms -- IKWWFL 7" (cannot WAIT for upcoming 2LP)
psychedelic horseshit -- too many hits 2x7", shitgaze anthems 12"
bitters 12"
beets LP
eat skull -- wild and inside LP
dum dum girls 12" and hoZac 7"
christmas island -- blackout summer LP
all little claw records
thee oh sees -- sub pop 7", dog poison mini-LP
ty segall for general achievement
axemen reissues on siltbreeze
woven bones 7"s on hoZac and sweet rot
electric bunnies LP
brilliant colors releases
grass widow LP and 12"
tyvek LP and sub pop 7"
still love box elders; wish the record had been the game-changer that the grotto 7" was last year, but whatever...

does kurt vile count? if so, give it to the mexican summer 12".
does blues control count? if so, their LP gets it.

Local Flavor is top of the heap for me, too, but it's a more Psych-Drone-Freak kinda thing, I thought. I haven't had enough time to digest the Axemen Scary pt III reissue, but it has been bewitching the two times I've played it. It's really very funny, but also to be taken seriously.

It's really very funny, but also to be taken seriously.

that's exactly how i feel about both the axemen reissues!

i talked to them at their carrboro show, and they were sweet guys, too. the whole in-joke thing translated to the live set very well. big cheap motel is very good, but scary is great. ive only heard them through the reissues, so im very excited for three virgins and whatever else siltbreeze is gonna reissue.

the drummer told me about their reunion -- a couple years ago, he was planning his 50th birthday, and someone ran into the bassist, who was homeless and living in a traincar, and invited him to the drummer's party as a surprise. when they were at the party, people kept saying "hey it's the axemen again! the axemen!" (except he said it with his kiwi accent as "x-men" which was cute) so they started talking about wouldnt it be fun, etc, and eventually ended up on tour w times new viking!

That's nice. I love a redemption/reunion.
I never would have heard of them if it wasn't for the reissues, that's for sure.

Came across a band called Arsene Obscene searching for Metal Urbain rarities: great Francophone "bedroom punk" with a cool single "Partir A La Guerre" on Slovenly, and an LP coming. Ultra fuzzed out sound and truly Thunderous 70's punk riffing. Love it!