Pink Floyd-Classic or dud

Which is another way of saying that though I'm not fond of the post- 75 stuff, and Waters' conceptual bent was horribly misguided, I do love The Wall. It's odd how much the idea of the aliented, lonely rockstar has resonated with American kids. It seems so silly and yet it gets passed down through the ages. I love it mostly because The Floyd one last great gasp of melody after the lackluster Animals and the half good/half bad Wish You Were Here.

Those interested should also check out the hilarious demolition of _The Dark Side of the Moon_ by those nutballs the Squirrels...

Never owned a Floyd album, though familiar enough to haze an opinion... I think (like Fleetwood Mac) they IMPROVED CONSIDERABLY upon losing the alleged mad genius.

Have fond memories of sitting on a beach at night getting drunk and stoned whilst DARK SIDE OF THE MOON blared in the background. That, THE WALL, and "Wish You Were Here" all etched on my brain through extensive (and almost inescapable) radio hearings. Gilmore's solos quite magic. I'd say classic for their classic rock phase, late 70s.

Contingency: whilst Gilmour's the star for me, given his output post- Waters he was evidently better (thrived creatively?) as Waters' stooge rather'n his own boss. Post-Waters really equals snooze. Live show inflatable pigs notwithstanding, o'course.

The live sides of "Ummagumma" kind of work for me too. I can't dismiss "Piper..." altogether after a great first side, although I've always hated "Interstellar Overdrive" and then the whimsy becomes too much.

Also cool : "Saucerful...." and "Meddle".

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really, though, it was all about barrett as far as i'm concerned. yeah, they were okay for the next few albums (and _animals_ was tolerable), but after _piper at the gates of dawn_ it was a pretty fast slide down to the bowels of somnolent prog monotony. somebody should've shot roger waters and david gilmour...

syd barett was an art student. the rest of them were architecture students. i rest my case.

absolute fucking dud. david gilmour is the celine dion of the guitar. coming from someone who *loves* lo-fi sound, the barrett-era stuff is half-assed weedy bullshit. sb is also one of the worst vocalists of all time. (at least waters/gilmour-era is evil rather than incompetent.) waters' "deep" and "intense" vocals make me want to punch a radio when they come on. long, tedious, repetitive pompous songs that verge on soft-rock schlock far too often. and let's not even get to lyrics.

not too bad: "interstellar overdrive," "corporal clegg," "one of my turns," "run like hell"

worst of the worst: "shine on you crazy diamond," "comfortably numb," anything from the gilmour-led period

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Overall, I like the Floyd. I like _The Wall_ and _Dark Side..._. I think that the song "Wish You Were Here" is undeniably pretty. _Animals_ is freakin' scary and wonderful. _The Final Cut_ is sandpaper for the soul, however, and completely put me off of investigating their other albums. (I recently heard _Piper..._ and, while I enjoyed it, I still haven't stopped giggling.)

I guess I'd have to say they're classic by default.

So needless to say, DUD, no matter how much I like The Wall.

All I know is, these guys started off OK, Sid is a good lad really, then made 'Meddle' which is the one, then made the one's which made them loads of money, then Water's ego ballooned to the size of a small planet, then sued the asses off each other, then Gilmour's belly got so big that it completely hides his hands when he sits with them on his lap, then they went utter, utter utter, utter shit.

Vedict - Classic: just for 'Meddle'

Although, might I just interject over myself that 'Animals' is alright and 'Wish You Were Here' is rather good too. Hmm, looks like I have a thing about mid-era Floyd. Anyway, I just wanted ask if I mentioned 'The Wizard of Oz' in connection with the 'Dark Side' would anyone know what the holy hell I as talking about?

CLASSIC ALL THE WAY. David Gilmour is such an underrated guitarist ("Dogs" anyone? "Time"? that spooky-as-hell Halloween bit in "Echoes"?), and the live disc of Ummagumma is the VERY FIRST drone rock album. FACT! Absolutely one of the best bands of all time.

Except for "The Division Bell" which was shit.

SEARCH: "Is There Anybody Out There?", "Dogs", "Embryo", "Careful With That Axe, Eugene" (Ummagumma version)

DESTROY: Roger Waters' abysfuckingmal solo albums

Not sure that's true. I love Mr.Gilmour, but I don't think he's really an underappreciated guitarist.

The ’80s/’90s Pink Floyd = Dud.

There are a million college students learning every note of the solo to "Time" that would dispute that.

Yes, I think this is my problem with PF exactly. (And, believe me, I really want and try to like them.) I had the exact same problem with Godspeed's F#A#oo, which actually reminded me very much of Pink Floyd. (Thankfully GYBE! got a lot better afterwards.) I don't think even that even the starkest IDM or minimalist record I like really does this in this way. If anything they probably usually use space to emphasize unusual rhythmic frameworks and changes -> the beat doesn't come when you expect it to.

Btw Richard Wright was fucking amazing. Props to him (he doesn't get enough!!).

Barrett isn't so bad, is it? Obviously, Madcap Laughs is a mess.

It's been years since I've heard any Syd Barrett stuff but I just remember it sounding really . . . cheap and half-assed and not liking his voice. I might hear them differently now.

(looks nervously left and right; whistles innocently)

UM AND WHAT ABOUT ATOM HEART MOTHER???

and obscured by clouds. it's a toss up for me, my fav - it's just too hard. all of these are phenomenal.

I was listening to Ratatat the other day and it really reminded me of it!

summer '68 (8 not 9, right?) is CRAAAAAZY!

In the "Live At Pompeii" film, you see Gilmour doing just that, recording a solo note-by-note...

Upon moving to the West Coast, and this may simply be the friends that my wife has, but it seems like EVERYONE grew up learning to play Pink Floyd, as opposed to my bluegrass/blues upbringing. So, whereas Hendrix, Cream, Bill Monroe, Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf and Tony Rice are common musical vernacular b/t my East Coast friends, all these Californians seem to immediately fall into Gilmour-era Floyd when in a jam setting. Somewhat frustrating b/c they aren't as tasteful and understated as Gilmour.

I actually haven't put on a Floyd album in a LONG time, and, upon reflection, I feel no need to. Still, they were relatively popular during my high school years, but, like Zep, Aerosmith, and BTO, I file them under the "Ah, yes....Floyd" category of memories.

For my money everything up to (and including) Wish You Were Here is good. Then Waters' misanthropy gets the better of their way and liking the Floyd is solely the preserve of over earnest slightly dim students.

i think, in the middle 90's they were Dud almost all the way among indie kids.
(Piper was always exceptional).

It's been one of my favorites ever since I first heard it, thanks very much -- and that was almost twenty years back.

That's against the law y'know.

It's like eating a cake, and then forgetting about it, and then getting a new cake. Sure, it's familiar, but it's still fucking cake!

i think, in the middle 90's they were Dud almost all the way among indie kids.
(Piper was always exceptional).

I have always championed Meddle/Dark Side/WYWH/Animals to skeptical guitar-solo-hating indie kids and Barrett-only snobs. It's funny that now indie rockers are deciding it's ok to jam, especially since they do it so much worse than their forebears.

Echoes genuinely terrified me when I was younger, this is true. Especially when listened to in the dark.

Their huge '70s hit LPs barely register with me anymore. As for everything post '79, I don't wanna know.

so dreamy...

OMG really?? i can totally stick in the wall right now - in fact i think i will. hold on.

okay here we go. see i like this.

haha, is that empirical evidence or WHAT??

i love the synth nostalgia thing they go for with the slow numbers. nice sheen to it.

http://www.pf-roio.de/roio/trance_remixes.html

the thing about The Wall is that Roger was just trying to hard and no one was there to keep him in line. If he hadn't gone Andrew Lloyd Webber, it could have stood the test of time.

And I kind of realized that I still love "Comfortably Numb." Remarkably so.

comfortably numb was such a favorite of mine back when - i need to listen again

seems kinda sappy and heavy now, but i haven't listened in too long

mysogynist stadium blues work-outs

Is so so true. Those songs just suck more every year, and the weirdly filtered misogyny becomes more and more obvious.

Waters's bits = ugh. Gilmour's = holy hell. Eldritch's cover = amusing.

"Look mummy, there's an aeroplane up in the sky!"
"Time to go!"
"Well, only about an hour of daylight left. We'd better get started."
"You! Yes you behind the bikesheds! Stand still, laddy!"
"What are you watching? Hello? Are you feeling OK?"

Other than those exceptions, classic all the way!

I never listen to those songs as Pink Floyd songs, but rather as songs that Pink's band would play.

PS WHAT INDIE ROCK HAS TO SAY ABOUT FLOYD IS ABOUT AS IMPORTANT AS WHAT A DOUBLE AA RELIEVER HAS TO SAY ABOUT NOLAN RYAN, THX

I haven't seen it in over ten years but I distinctly remember that version of "One of These Days" being a fucking monster.

green is the color
cymbaline
a pillow of winds
fearless
if
summer 68
fat old sun
the narrow way , pt.3
the gold its in the...
wot's oh... the deal
stay
free four
burning bridges
*paintbox (closer the psych period but still underrated...)

Biggest disparity between what I liked when I was 14 and what I like now from The Wall = that final track (The Trial?) which at the time was clever and cool and deep and now is all the bad things that people say about the Wall in general.

synths like that would play in my dreams

AT the start of Crazy Diamond? I think i read somewhere that it's fingers run along the edge of wine glasses dubbed over on top of themselves a zillion times rather than synths, which is both barmy and v. cool.

Ah well...I don't think Comstock will need to make an appearance on this thread...

Yeah, I was lucky enough to see this right around the time I got into the band, courtesy of the girl I was crazy over in high school being a big fan (when you're friends with an absolutely beautiful Italian immigrant, you can best damn well guess you start picking up on things she likes really quickly...). I need to finally get the DVD of this.

I could never call Atom Heart Mother too weird. The first track is like baroque classical rock and then you have Summer '68 and If, which is just good songwriting. Fat Old Sun and then all the found sound... I mean I guess listening to a guy talk about eating marmalade is weird but others have definitely trumped that in terms of the too weird status.

If, which is just good songwriting

Which is just shite shongwriting, shurely?

i guess you haven't heard "the division bell" or even worse, the live album after it (Pulse)

You sure about that?

http://www.floydstuff.com/images/pictures/P2832.jpg

I thought that little red flashing LED was absolutely unique and wonderful while it lasted, not that I'd ever purchase or listen to the thing, understand. (My sister's boyfriend owned it.)

Christ, I heard him at New Year for the first time, WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT ALL ABOUT!??!??!?

In a lot of ways (you know, outside the A.L. Webberisms, "The Wall" is a pretty well realized work. The expanded DVD of the movie that came out a few years ago is excellent.

Wow.

I'm quite a fan of 'What Do You Want From Me' and 'Tearing The Inside Out' from that album, and High Hopes is pretty good, yeah. The rest can burn.

FWIW, in a poll some years back on Echoes (the "main" PF mailing list), Meddle and Animals were #1 and #2, I think.

"Summer '68" is great. When he's on, Rick Wright is such an inspired and distinctive voice -- anytime you hear an intriguing, unorthodox chord progression in a Pink Floyd song, it's probably him. (Which is a big part of why they went downhill so fast after Animals, though he didn't really contribute much to that album.)

I don't like Obscured by Clouds much but the live performances of the title track (plus "When You're In") are almost always terrific. Most of that album never got played live, though they did a few shows with "Childhood's End", and Gilmour played "Wots...uh the Deal" on his most recent tour.

The sound of the albums from A Saucerful of Secrets up to Meddle -- as in, the quality of the recorded acoustic -- is pretty much my musical ideal. Sometimes I think Meddle is the best-recorded album, like, ever.

I don't own anything after The Final Cut, because it's pretty much all dreck.

that always gives me the chills. overall, the texture of the album cinches it for me. thick and luxurious.

Sounds like one of the solos ("one of", oh dear) towards the end of "Dogs". I rate Animals quite highly among Floyd albums, probably because "Dogs" takes up so much of the album. Wonder if there were any Van Der Graaf Generator fans in the Floyd, as at least part of "Dogs" sounds to me like it takes its cue from the first part of "A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers".

Still, T/S as abstract response to punk: Animals vs. Presence.

They did share concert bills together a couple of times. If memory serves, there was one 1969 concert that was PF, Fleetwood Mac, and VdGG.

That could just be the best concert bill ever.

Dave and Nick still have some cool friends from the old days.

Brent Hinds, in the Mastadon docu-making-of for Blood Mountain remarked that he wanted to end the album in a way akin to Floyd. Except, instead of dogs barking he was going to use a kitten. Hi-larious!

Already put my hand up

i'm putting it on right now

argh dogs is so good right now

although wish you were here is kinda awesome too

TS (or compare and contrast) -- Pink Floyd's "Echoes" vs. the Damned's "Curtain Call"

The conclusion of "Sheep" is one of my fave PF moments ever.

YES!!!

the part where the guitars burst into that beautiful descending thing? i think that's it! that's one of my fav PH moments ever as well!

It's like a little story built on guitar and ambience.

i'm gonna smoke now

"You! Get up! Oi......... I'VE GOT A LITTLE BLACK BOOK WITH ME POEMS IN!!!"

=)

what happens there? does the mind, like the body, fall apart?

haha sorry i'm just bored and keeping my finger busy

More like Ween and the Flaming Lips. aka the two best bands of this generation.

that's enough to justify them existing, but a lot of the rest, well...let's just say- they padded well.

BBC reporting Rick Wright has died.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7617363.stm

Fucking cancer

By the way, what about that advert for Direct Live insurance that starts out with what is fairly blatantly a version of "Careful With That Axe, Eugene" which, jarringly and bizarrely, turns into the Direct Live tune at the end?

man Floyd is kind of a perfect Sunday band...started with Meddle this morning, and after an absolutely gorgeous day (and an afternoon in the park) I'm listening to Dark Side now...it's just like, ahhhhhhh (going into a nuts week too; take me away, Clare Torry)...

Echoes, man...

mannnnnn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=646KtkEcPm8&feature=related

yeahhhh dude....

Damned stoners.

learnin things about this song on wikipedia
- The second half of the song where Gilmour plays muted notes on the guitar over Wright's slowly building organ solo was inspired by the Beach Boys song "Good Vibrations".
- The title "Echoes" was also subjected to significant revisions before and after the release of Meddle: Waters, a devoted football fan, proposed that the band call its new piece "We Won the Double" in celebration of Arsenal's 1971 victory, and during a 1972 tour of Germany he jovially introduced it on two consecutive nights as "Looking Through the Knothole in Granny's Wooden Leg" (a reference to The Goon Show; the phrase appeared in an episode titled "The £50 Cure")[5] and "The March of the Dam Busters", respectively.
- Similar to the Dark Side of the Rainbow effect,[6] some listeners suggested that "Echoes" synchronizes with Stanley Kubrick's 1968 film 2001: A Space Odyssey when played concurrently with the final segment (titled "Jupiter and Beyond the Infinite").
- The 1973 George Greenough film "Crystal Voyager" concludes with a 23 minute segment in which the full length of "Echoes" accompanies a montage of images shot by Greenough from a camera mounted on his back while surfing on his kneeboard.

learn with us, ned

Can't, tripping.

I knew I was in love with the woman who would later become my wife when we got to Pompeii and proceeded to express our deep appreciation for PF @ Pompeii.

handsome naked guitar god Dave Gilmour NEVER FORGET POMPEII

<3

all those pompeii bros died so that the floyd could be so rad. thank you pompeii bros!

sparkle motion was your first dance to "echoes"? or "interstellar overdrive"?

when we got to Pompeii and proceeded to express our deep appreciation for PF @ Pompeii

There's a euphemism.

"people think of us as a very drug-oriented group...course we're not..."

"but our fans, whoa...whole other story"

sparkle motion was your first dance to "echoes"? or "interstellar overdrive"?

careful with that axe eugene

Can I just say that Meddle is owning me today :D

Love that record, no surprise there.

GodDAMN. Nice to circle back and visit "old friends" now and then, I get so scattershot with my music at times. 'Fearless'..forget about that song but Gilmour's voice there is real joy

should be "I always forget about that song"

seems kind of ridiculous that the floyd haven't put out a live box set or something. there are some versions of "echoes" that are epicccccccccc.

Fearless is awesome, and even more awesome because it is easy to play on the guitar!

Meddle is usually my fave PF album, even "Seamus".

fearless is easy to play? i should learn how to play it. is it in a special tuning or ...?

not that I remember, it's been a while!

FEARLESS- Pink Floyd

TUNING: D G D G B D (open G)

RIFF FOUR TIMES C Bb G C Bb

G C Bb
You say the hill's too steep to climb
G C Bb
Climb it!
G C Bb
You say you'd like to see me try
G C Bb
Climb it!
A D
You pick the place and I'll choose the time
G C
And I'll climb that hill in my own way
G C
Just wait a while, for the right day
G C
And as I rise above the treeline and the clouds
D C G
I look down, hear the sound of the things you said today

RIFF 4 TIMES

BRIDGE(slide up and down to these shapes):
Bm Am Bm Am Bm Am Bm Am

G C Bb G C Bb

Fearlessly the idiot faced the crowd
Smiling
Merciless, the magistrate turns round
Frowning
And who's the fool who wears the crown
And go down in your own way
And everyday is the right day
And as you rise above the fearlines in the frown
You look down
Hear the sound of the faces in the crowd

REPEAT RIFF FOREVER

CHORDS: RIFF:
G A Bb C D Bm Am
D 0 2 3 5 7 4 2 0 0 0 0 0 0
B 0 2 3 5 7 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
G 0 2 3 5 7 4 2 4 5 7 9 11 12
D 0 2 3 5 7 4 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 (slide down to G)
G 0 2 3 5 7 x x 4 5 7 9 11 12
D 0 2 3 5 7 4 2 0 0 0 0 0 0

NOTE: The chord names are for the chords in regular tuning. So if you don't
want to change the tuning you can play the song with these chords in
regular tuning, but you won't get to play the riff correctly.

haa, repeat riff forever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_K5-sOeC5k

Seamus is <3...reminds me of our pet dog who used to howl along when Dad was running the circular saw lolol

I just discovered I like a lot "Fat Old Sun".

The two Peel Sessions they did from around the Atom Heart Mother/Meddle era are GODLIKE.

That live BBC concert from 1970 is brilliance too

The 1973 George Greenough film "Crystal Voyager" concludes with a 23 minute segment in which the full length of "Echoes" accompanies a montage of images shot by Greenough from a camera mounted on his back while surfing on his kneeboard.

I've seen this, but I can't remember where, why, when, how

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjWhqgs4uEo

I just discovered I like a lot "Fat Old Sun".

this song will always have a special place in my heart for being the very first song a 13 year old me learned how to 'improvise' the guitar solo

well look at these:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dpopular&field-keywords=pink+floyd+immersion&x=0&y=0

also search the same albums with "experience" which will pull up the double cd versions...you can zoom in and see the tracklists, loads of unreleased and live stuff. kind of overwhelming that PF are actually opening the vaults on things all of a sudden.

For a minute I thought maybe they were re-releasing albums as a Zaireeka type of thing..

wow

what is this 'immersion' thing?

and I can't see the tracklists on the zoomed-in images, am I missing something?

I've been dying to talk about these for ages (my other half is connected loosely with the project) there's a lot of interesting stuff coming out, we even get to hear Stefan Grapelli on WYWH!

They must have kept the vaults pretty well screwed down over the years, I was not even aware that there was much unreleased studio material out there. am not aware of the existence of any bootlegs of it.

yeah they never put bonus tracks on any of their albums. i guess they can make a lot more money doing it this way.

Tracklist and bumf for WYWH:

DISC 1 - CD1:

Wish You Were Here digitally remastered by James Guthrie, 2011

DISC 2 - CD2:

Shine On You Crazy Diamond (parts 1-6) live at Wembley November 1974 (2011 mix and previously unreleased)

Raving & Drooling live at Wembley November 1974 (2011 mix and previously unreleased)

You’ve Got To Be Crazy live at Wembley November 1974 (2011 mix and previously unreleased)

Wine Glasses from the unreleased ‘Household Objects’ project

Have A Cigar alternative version (previously unreleased)

Wish You Were Here featuring Stephane Grappelli (previously unreleased)

DISC 3 - DVD1, ALL AUDIO:

-Wish You Were Here, James Guthrie 2009 5.1 Surround Mix (previously unreleased) in standard resolution audio at 448 kbps

-Wish You Were Here, James Guthrie 2009 5.1 Surround Mix (previously unreleased) in high resolution audio at 640 kbps

-Wish You Were Here, Original Mix (1975) LPCM stereo

-Wish You Were Here, Quad Mix (previously released only on vinyl LP/8 track tape) in standard resolution audio at 448 kbps

-Wish You Were Here, Quad Mix (previously released only on vinyl LP/8 track tape) in high resolution audio at 640 kbps

DISC 4 - DVD 2, AUDIO VISUAL:

-AUDIO VISUAL: Concert Screen Films:

Shine On You Crazy Diamond Intro

Shine On You Crazy Diamond

-AUDIO VISUAL: Welcome To The Machine animated clip

-AUDIO VISUAL: Storm Thorgerson short film

Concert Screen Films play in stereo and 5.1 Surround Sound

DISC 5 - BLURAY:

-AUDIO: Wish You Were Here, James Guthrie 2009 5.1 Surround Mix (previously unreleased) high resolution audio at 96 kHz/24-bit

-AUDIO: Wish You Were Here, Original stereo mix (1975) mastered in high resolution audio at 96 kHz/24-bit

- AUDIO VISUAL: Concert Screen films:

Shine On You Crazy Diamond Intro

Shine On You Crazy Diamond

-AUDIO VISUAL: Welcome To The Machine animated clip

- AUDIO VISUAL: Storm Thorgerson short film

40 page 27cm x 27cm booklet designed by Storm Thorgerson

Exclusive photo book edited by Jill Furmanovsky

27cm x 27cm Exclusive Storm Thorgerson Art Print

5 x Collectors’ Cards featuring art and comments by Storm Thorgerson

Replica of Wish You Were Here Tour Ticket

Replica of Wish You Were Here Backstage Pass

Scarf

3 x Clear marbles

9 x Coasters (unique to this box) featuring early Storm Thorgerson design sketches

12 page credits booklet

Also in the pipeline:

http://www.brain-damage.co.uk/latest/rare-1967-pink-floyd-recording-airs-in-stockholm.html

^ Must admit, that's got me Raving & Drooling

The track listings for all three are up here:

http://www.pulse-and-spirit.com/news/pink-floyd-dark-side-of-the-moon-und-wish-you-were-here-box-sets/

Would have been the perfect place for them to finally release the full Wall live footage but I guess Rog is still against that.

T'aint good enough quality sadly, underexposed.

Ah well thats a shame.

It always frustrates me how little live in-concert film there is of prime 70s prog bands. I guess the technology wasn't quite there and the price was prohibitive.

Some amazing shit has surfaced over the last couple of years, the Harvested guys are pretty adept at sourcing, cleaning up and disseminating footage from old European Music shows or one off In-Concert performances.
http://www.harvested.org/

And I'm hopeful that some material does get released in the future, especially considering EMI (like many companies) are going to have to get more creative with the way they release material, I reckon they could make a decent go of a PF DVD along the lines of the Led Zeppelin one from a few years back. It appears Nick Mason is the main custodian and motivating party wrt their archive, Gilmour is a lot less interested, and he's been collecting footage, so maybe one day!

http://youtu.be/WprjXjwxYXU

is that a dark side of the moon scarf in the pic of the dark side of the moon set?

yep, one of the extra bits and bobs you get.

I hear the Wall set comes with a Gerald scarf.

(rimshot)

damnnnn, that syd era live recording! want it. the bootlegs from that period sound so bad and yet ... they sound so good! hope it gets a release...
these box sets look cool, too. but where's the Animals set! COME ON.

Syd rules ok.

a little birdy tells me they may do big album sets for the other lps if these ones sell well

They're all planning to come out, at least the big hitters, dunno about Obscured by Clouds, More etc:

This is one of those bands that I don't know if I like or not, because they've been so overexposed that I've tired of hearing them. Kind of like trying to imagine if you would think "Stairway to Heaven" was a great song if you just heard it for the first time, and you'd never heard of the band who made it.

Like alot of us, I went through a brief PF phase in my late teens, mostly Dark Side of the Moon. Discovered Syd in college; still love his stuff, especially the early Floyd singles "See Emily Play", "Arnold Layne", and "Apples and Oranges". Saw one of their late-80s post-Waters shows - it was impressive but there was a definite feeling of playing off past glories from someone no longer in the band, despite Gilmour's impressive guitar prowess. I'll vote Classic even though I'm sick of most of their music by now.

I have everything up to The Wall, but IMO all you really need is Piper, Meddle, Dark Side, Wish, Animals and The Wall.

And of course The Madcap Laughs and Barrett. Search also "Set The Controls for the Heart of the Sun" and "Jugband Blues" off Saucerful of Secrets.

Acoustic Sounds is also releasing the SACD of Wish You Were Here at the same time.

I see a very expensive late summer for myself.

Obscured By Clouds is more interesting than Piper, Saucerful and Atom Heart Mother for me. Particularly because the songs "Burning Bridges" and "The Gold It's in the..." are peak material (for me) even though there is some weak material on the album.

i want to think "oh PF are just scrounging more money off me" but then I remember that the only PF thing I've ever purchased new (that is, not used) was A Momentary Lapse of Reason back when it was released. so I suppose I can buy these.

xp to me
oh yeah and "Wots... Uh, the deal?"

If they actually released Household Objects as a standalone, I'd be all over it.

I read somewhere that one of the least recognized 80's albums is Pink Floyd's own personal favorite album from their discography... is there any truth to that? It might of been Momentary Lapse of Reason

it might be gilmour's favorite. or he might have just been trying to make waters mad.

I can't imagine Nick Mason and Rick Wright would be all, "Hey, you know what our favorite album of ours is? The one we didn't play on!"

they didn't play at all on momentary lapse? weird.

jim keltner and carmine appice played most of the drums on that album, mason's parts got erased because mason apparently didn't think they were very good. wright was brought on as a session musican when the album was almost finished. either way it's not like you can really tell, and neither of them did very much on anything post - animals anyway.

Gilmour sez: "Both Nick and Rick were catatonic in terms of their playing ability at the beginning. Neither of them played on this at all really. In my view, they'd been destroyed by Roger. Nick played a few tom-toms on one track, but for the rest I had to get in other drummers. Rick played some tiny little parts. For a lot of it, I played the keyboards and pretended it was him. The record was basically made by me, and other people and God knows what."

Also, the photo on the inner sleeve of the first pressing is of just Gilmour and Mason.

So conceivably, there is a "Pink Floyd" song or two (or more) with no original members.

Okay, I was in a soulseek chatroom and the trivia bot asked something like "what was Pink Floyd's favorite album that they made?" and the answer was either Momentary Lapse or Division Bell. Could of been bot error but you never know

I should really get Final Cut, Momentary Lapse and Division Bell one of these days. Just never motivated enough to check them out for some reason.

eh, i dunno, are the post waters records worth it? even as a 14 year old floyd fanatic, i could never really dig the gilmour era beyond a couple songs.

Learning to Fly was kind of a cool single. I liked the video.

Final Cut is worth getting, I'd skip the post waters albums

Final Cut is the last thing I have much time for. probably prefer that last Gilmour solo LP to the post Waters PF ones

I have a soft spot for latter-day Floyd; it's like they decided that "Comfortably Numb" should be its own genre.

waters' favorite floyd album is the wall. both gilmour's and wright's is wish you were here. dont know about mason, but he did once describe obscured by clouds as "i thought it was a sensational lp, actually"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOwf3TDygkM

WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW

now my mexican restaurant sucks

david gilmour played comfortably numb with roger waters tonight at the london Wall show. got tickets for next tuesday, pretty hyped.

Nick Mason speaks

This piece claims everything will drop in September, including vanilla reissues of the rest of the catalog.

yep, see www.whypinkfloyd.com for all that

Yeah, saw this on the HMV site yesterday.

Remastered versions of them all, including "Piper" which only just had one but then again if you have to have the CD collection with the same spines lined up on your shelf, you have to don't you?

"probably prefer that last Gilmour solo LP to the post Waters PF ones"

last Gilmour lp is definitely decent: recently I listened to the subsequent live album and it was good in places (Manzanera on second guitar).

Will anyone rep for About Face? Apart from a couple of tracks - Blue Light especially - it's a pretty solid record.

http://youtu.be/6RqFrkrfWqQ

yes like it very much, esp 'Cruise'. a nice understated record

pretty psyched to hear a non-annoying "Great Gig in the Sky"

What, Easy Star All Stars?

david gilmour played comfortably numb with roger waters tonight at the london Wall show. got tickets for next tuesday, pretty hyped.

― reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Thursday, May 12, 2011 11:34 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

http://youtu.be/QbGoOtYnevA

Fantastic moment at 0:52. Brought a tear to me eye it did.

Try again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbGoOtYnevA

Hah, screenshot is a SPOILER.

i can't believe I didn't go see the wall when it came through oakland, WTF was I thinking? broke I guess.

would be awesome if this was just the culmination of waters' nefarious plan to kill gilmour, and just as dave hit the first note of the solo, THE WALL COMES DOWN.

floyd

http://www.autographpros.com/images/waters-face-k35599-a.jpg

http://www.dymee.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/c97ba_3704529364_54571fbffd_o.jpg

Bill Maher looks great on that guitar. The longer hair suits him.

side of floyd beef

http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo142/live_laugh_love231/My%20Personal%20Pictures/069.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L42YTWSJtI

more great footage of *that* bit. for me i guess this is like if Bernard Butler shows up at the Dog Man Star/Suede gig on Friday. Floyd fans musta been going mental.

wah wah - no one told me when to run - I missed the starting gun! wahwah - WILL LISTEN TO FLOYD instead of catching up

Pink Floyd “Reunite” in Support of Gaza Activists

"David Gilmour, Nick Mason and Roger Waters stand united in support of the Women of the Gaza Freedom Flotilla"

http://pitchfork.com/news/68809-pink-floyd-reunite-in-support-of-gaza-activitsts/

wow so nobody here talked about how great those 2011 remasters sound? cuz man, I think they sound amazing, tons of space and detail and heft to the sound.

also there's a new run of vinyl reissues, haven't heard any reports and don't wanna dive into the Hoffman forum or something to discover how they sound. the only one I need is Piper anyway.

How many goddamn reissues does this band need?

wow so nobody here talked about how great those 2011 remasters sound? cuz man, I think they sound amazing, tons of space and detail and heft to the sound.

Yeah, I agree. That was the first time I bought any Floyd on CD, and they sound fantastic.

i don't know any pink floyd masterings that _don't_ sound fantastic. except they fucked up the mono on that piper box set a few years back, i guess.

Did they? I thought it sounded fantastic, but it's the only mono Piper I've heard.

well i think it was just one of the channels that was fucked up. since we're dealing with a mono recording anyway it's not exactly the end of the world, y'know?

Chris Blair from Abbey Rd caught a lot of flack from the Hoffman types for cutting off the end of Flaming, introducing some clicks and a bit of a botch noise reduction/EQ combo.

i like everything pretty much except the final cut and atom heart mother!