Neil Young - Zuma

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
Cortez The Killer 13
Barstool Blues 10
Don't Cry No Tears 7
Danger Bird 7
Pardon My Heart 2
Lookin' for a Love 2
Stupid Girl 2
Drive Back 1
Through My Sails 0


matt p (Matt P), Sunday, 25 January 2009 11:09 (seventeen years ago)

barstool blues

matt p (Matt P), Sunday, 25 January 2009 11:10 (seventeen years ago)

YOU'RE JUST A STUPID GIRL
YOU REALLY GOT A LOT TO LEARN

matt p (Matt P), Sunday, 25 January 2009 11:42 (seventeen years ago)

I can't ignore Cortez - I can't even remember any of the other tracks!

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 25 January 2009 12:04 (seventeen years ago)

that is exactly why i should have excluded it.

matt p (Matt P), Sunday, 25 January 2009 12:07 (seventeen years ago)

cortez, what else. probably the greatest rock song of all-time.

alex in mainhattan, Sunday, 25 January 2009 12:10 (seventeen years ago)

jesus christ you people suck. ok i already knew 'alex in mainhattan' sucked.

matt p (Matt P), Sunday, 25 January 2009 12:12 (seventeen years ago)

i don't get it. if you wanted to make a poll on zuma excluding cortez you should have excluded it.

alex in mainhattan, Sunday, 25 January 2009 12:17 (seventeen years ago)

barstool blues > lookin for a love > don't cry no tears > danger bird > through my sails > cortez the killer > drive back > pardon my heart > stupid girl

x-post yah but i mainly thought it was for people who liked the album

matt p (Matt P), Sunday, 25 January 2009 12:18 (seventeen years ago)

i mean it's probably neil's most consistent album imo, so i just get a little exasperated when people are like omg cortez the killer because they've heard decade

matt p (Matt P), Sunday, 25 January 2009 12:24 (seventeen years ago)

'like a hurricane' on an american stars n bars poll i can understand.

matt p (Matt P), Sunday, 25 January 2009 12:25 (seventeen years ago)

Barstool Blues

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 25 January 2009 15:50 (seventeen years ago)

neil's most consistent album

come on, you must be joking. "on the beach", "after the goldrush", "everybody knows this is nowhere", even "havest" and "ragged glory" beat the shit out of "zuma".

alex in mainhattan, Sunday, 25 January 2009 15:57 (seventeen years ago)

"harvest"

alex in mainhattan, Sunday, 25 January 2009 15:58 (seventeen years ago)

I dunno, this might be my favorite Neil record, but yeah, it's definitely not as consistent as others. Maybe if it was all Crazy Horse, it'd be a little more so. But throwing "Pardon My Heart" and "Through My Sails" (which are both great) make it a little more piecemeal than some others. I voted for "Barstool Blues" an insanely wonderful three minutes. Goes to show that Neil can be at his best when he's concise, too. But no need to get upset about people voting for "Cortez" -- that is an incredible piece of music.

tylerw, Sunday, 25 January 2009 17:00 (seventeen years ago)

Danger Bird- heavy, man

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 25 January 2009 17:10 (seventeen years ago)

honestly, i would vote "Barstool Blues" over "Cortez" anyway

crackers is biters (M@tt He1ges0n), Sunday, 25 January 2009 17:40 (seventeen years ago)

This album is so awesome that even the CSNY blandness of "Through the Sails" works in context. "Drive Back" is my choice, for that RIFF. Nothing like this was hitting the Billboard Top 40 album chart in '75.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 25 January 2009 18:56 (seventeen years ago)

barstool blues.next.

Zeno, Sunday, 25 January 2009 19:31 (seventeen years ago)

one of the best sounding records i own. um, on vinyl that is. i've never heard the cd. just so fuckin' beautiful. i love the whole thing.

scott seward, Sunday, 25 January 2009 19:39 (seventeen years ago)

gonna get a dog, name her zuma.

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Sunday, 25 January 2009 19:42 (seventeen years ago)

"Don't Cry No Tears". Haven't we done this before?

Euler, Sunday, 25 January 2009 22:22 (seventeen years ago)

This is probably the Neil album that best showcases his ability as a guitarist, gorgeous production too. Went for 'Danger Bird'.

Gavin in Leeds, Sunday, 25 January 2009 22:57 (seventeen years ago)

barstool blues

I'm guessing bb and cortez will be 1 and 2

iatee, Sunday, 25 January 2009 23:02 (seventeen years ago)

Wow, I was just playing this yesterday and wondering what I would pick in a poll. And "Danger Bird" it is. This my favourite NY album.

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Monday, 26 January 2009 11:34 (seventeen years ago)

Must load into ipod tonight, but probably danger bird.

Dear Tacos, how are you? I am fine. The weather is nice. I miss yo (Oilyrags), Monday, 26 January 2009 16:52 (seventeen years ago)

Yes! a Danger Bird rally. Really though there are no losers on this fine album. On any given day I could pick just about anything. Oh yeah, Pardon My Heart-- what a great ballad.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 26 January 2009 16:58 (seventeen years ago)

Lou Reed famously praised the guitar on "Danger Bird."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 26 January 2009 16:59 (seventeen years ago)

This is pretty solid throughout.

Bill Magill, Monday, 26 January 2009 17:05 (seventeen years ago)

voting Pardon My Heart...Barstool Blues may be better, but for me it's reeeal close...it might be one of Young's best ballads...the way those Neil argues with those "You've-brought-it-all-on" call and response vocals, the way he argues with the song itself, the end where he loves the girl for the moments they have or haven't shared...it paints a very clear and detailed pciture of the path to closure after a relationship breaks down...(made all the more astonishing by being dropped into the middle of the cheeseburger paradise that is Zuma)...shows exactly why Neil is one of the best songwriters around.

seppuku toothbrush (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 26 January 2009 17:17 (seventeen years ago)

"Danger Bird" juuuuuuuuust barely over "Barstool Blues".

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 26 January 2009 17:19 (seventeen years ago)

oh man this is a good album

tylerw, Monday, 26 January 2009 17:21 (seventeen years ago)

saw him on sat night and tbh Cortez was the highlight of the show, with this repeated 'dancing across the water' refrain at the end....total chills down the spine. it's not normally my favourite on here (any one of the run from Pardon My Heart thru Barstool Blues usually is) but i might have to vote for it just for that performance.

dugong.jpg (jabba hands), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 03:12 (seventeen years ago)

After relistening, I have come to the conclusion that my first impulse was correct - sometimes the obvious thing is the right thing, and just comes dancing across the water right at you.

Dear Tacos, how are you? I am fine. The weather is nice. I miss yo (Oilyrags), Thursday, 29 January 2009 17:29 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Friday, 30 January 2009 00:01 (seventeen years ago)

This is damn tough- I'll start with songs I wouldn't vote for: Stupid Girl, Drive Back, and Through My Sails (though I do dig these three as well.)

I guess I'll go with Lookin' for a Love just because it's a beautiful country-rock number and I'm afraid it won't get many votes.

ColinO, Friday, 30 January 2009 18:14 (seventeen years ago)

I can't believe anyone would consider Harvest better than this- for one thing, most of the best versions of the songs on Harvest are found elsewhere: specifically, A Man Needs a Maid/Heart of Gold and Old Man from Massey Hall. If I want to hear mellow Neil it's usually Massey Hall or Live at Sugar Mountain or the second half of On the Beach.

x-post to Alex

ColinO, Friday, 30 January 2009 18:25 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 31 January 2009 00:01 (seventeen years ago)

Cortex the Killer is a tremendous guitar epic the likes of which Neil Young hasn't played in years.

Dan Landings, Saturday, 31 January 2009 01:06 (seventeen years ago)

Cortez is what I actually meant!

Dan Landings, Saturday, 31 January 2009 01:06 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

This is perhaps the wrong thread to revive but I can't find a better one for it. So anyway: any views on the Ducks? I listened to a show from here. "Your Time Will Come Around" and "Hold On Boys" seem to be Ducks originals, and are excellent; the latter in particular would have fit right in on Zuma. Also check out "Windward Pass", an 8+ minute instrumental with Neil in full liftoff throughout---but I think I also hear synths in the background, giving the song a beachy ambience suiting the song's title (a very Santa Cruz sound). It's gorgeous.

begs the question, when is enough enough (Euler), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 15:39 (sixteen years ago)

it's an interesting little sidetrip, for sure. Neil's material is obviously head and shoulders above the other songwriters' stuff, but it's still cool to hear him play the role of a guitarist in a band -- he's a bit more versatile than you might think! The Ducks seem like an attempt to get some of the spirit of Buffalo Springfield going ... It is kinda too bad they didn't make a record, probably would've been cool. Wonder if they ever did any studio recordings?

tylerw, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 16:10 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, I mean, I love Moby Grape, but "Mr. Soul" here just tears. Also: do you know if any of the three songs I mentioned were Neil's, or if not, whose were they?

Neil calls "Comes A Time" a Ducks original on the show too, which was interesting, at any rate.

begs the question, when is enough enough (Euler), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 16:14 (sixteen years ago)

some funny details on their wiki page:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ducks

this recording is great, had never heard of this before.

mizzell, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 16:15 (sixteen years ago)

ha, kind of a cool little history there. I guess even if there aren't any studio recordings, Neil probably has at least a gig or two recorded in sbd quality in the archives. all of the circulating recordings are audience, right?

tylerw, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 16:23 (sixteen years ago)

acc. to the Wiki page (and the related Thrasher's Wheat page), fans at the shows said they saw mobile recording units at some of the shows. So there's likely something in the archive.

begs the question, when is enough enough (Euler), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 16:34 (sixteen years ago)

the duck calls in the crowd of this show is pretty hilar.

mizzell, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 21:27 (sixteen years ago)

The band focused on topics such as trucks, girls and bars.

lol

Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 21:34 (sixteen years ago)

weird I don't remember any mention of this in Shakey but maybe I'm just forgettin

Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 21:34 (sixteen years ago)

think it's sorta glossed over in a page or two ... wonder if they played Hey Hey My My? Blackburn is the co-writer ...

tylerw, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 21:35 (sixteen years ago)

oh to be in santa cruz in the summer of 77
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/Ducks000.jpg/220px-Ducks000.jpg

tylerw, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 21:36 (sixteen years ago)

four months pass...

man the Bernstein Tapes are my new favorite Neil thing ever...recorded during the Zuma tour in 1976, these are acoustic/piano versions of Neil's best heartbreakers. I mean check this setlist out:

1. Campaigner (Boston, 26th)
2. Old Laughing Lady (Atlanta, 24th)
3. Human Highway (Madison, 14th)
4. Tell Me Why (Chicago, 15th)
5. After The Goldrush (Houston, 11th)
6. Harvest (Boston, 22nd)
7. Mr. Soul (New York City, 20th)
8. Here We Are In The Years (Atlanta, 24th)
9. Journey Through The Past (Boston, 22nd)
10. Heart Of Gold (Fort Worth, 10th)
11. A Man Needs A Maid (New York City, 20th)
12. White Line (Fort Worth, 10th)
13. Give Me Strength (New York City, 20th)
14. No One Seems To Know (Boulder, 7th)
15. Mellow My Mind (New York City, 20th)
16. Too Far Gone (Boulder, 6th)
17. Needle And The Damage Done (Atlanta, 24th)
18. Pocahontas (Atlanta, 24th)
19. Roll Another Number (Boston, 22nd)
20. Losing End (Atlanta, 24th)
21. Love Is A Rose (Houston, 11th)
22. Sugar Mountain (Atlanta, 24th)

They're recorded from different nights so no single night was the dark night of the soul it might appear. The sound is great: these are soundboards I think. man the "Journey Through The Past" is the saddest thing ever. "A Man Needs A Maid" has a massive synth or organ accompaniment (it's a bit distorted, so could just be organ) that kinda sounds like some lost OMD album closer.

Euler, Sunday, 18 July 2010 19:57 (fifteen years ago)

is this an official release??

not everything is a campfire (ian), Sunday, 18 July 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)

no, it's a boot, but it's easily findable...man this would make a sweet "bootleg series" type thing, just press this boot as it is & it would be epic.

Euler, Sunday, 18 July 2010 20:01 (fifteen years ago)

it's a bootleg, but put together by an associate of Young's. pretty easily found on the net, i think. it is an amazing listen -- some of the dialogues are really out there. acoustic version of "white line" is killer.

tylerw, Sunday, 18 July 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

dunno if this link still works, but ... http://rootstrata.com/rootblog/?p=1991

tylerw, Sunday, 18 July 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

The opening "Campaigner" has me on the floor. On another thread about Neil someone said that Neil's secret weapon is his sense of melody, and this "Campaigner" makes it so stark, so clear. "Human Highway" too.

Euler, Sunday, 18 July 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

oh and "give me strength"! one of the top ten never-released Neil songs. i guess "no one seem to know" would fit in there, too. it is just crazy how, when so many of his songwriting peers at that time were just floundering, Neil was hitting peak after peak.

tylerw, Sunday, 18 July 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)

in the opening of "Too Far Gone", Neil explains something weird by saying that "it's because of this abyss here...because of this hole between us that I have to keep reaffirming ourselves"

and actually that's a pretty good artistic statement of purpose for Neil

xp oh man "Give Me Strength" is just overwhelming!

Euler, Sunday, 18 July 2010 20:11 (fifteen years ago)

fwiw , a few years ago I would have gone for Pardon My Heart

It sounds so fragile and was one of the first NY songs that grabbed me.

Now, boringly, as much as I still like the above, It's the Cortez the Killer. Three simple chords and I don't know what the fuck he's on about but it sounds so beautifully morose and resigned. Parts of Spain didn't like it for some reason

Fer Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Sunday, 18 July 2010 20:39 (fifteen years ago)

Seriously, does anyone have any thoughts on why Cortez remains so great and compelling even after hearing it a million times? In theory, or on paper, it doesn't sound very promising-- a seven minute+ plodding song featuring some half-baked corny lyrics about the evils of imperialism and the nobility of the Aztec people or some such...but somehow it turns out to be one of the greatest things ever.

Three simple chords and I don't know what the fuck he's on about but it sounds so beautifully morose and resigned.

That is a good description...

dell (del), Monday, 19 July 2010 14:46 (fifteen years ago)

i think just with those beautiful opening lines -- "he came dancing across the water" -- neil pretty much wins ... sure, the lyrics are kind of naive when you really think about them, but as a kind of dream, they work. and of course, the music -- that billowing sail thing in the guitars, the sloooooow, waves crashing on a beach vibe. it's powerful.

tylerw, Monday, 19 July 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

he's been doing a pretty great solo electric "cortez" on his current tour.

tylerw, Monday, 19 July 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)

Cool, I think that's a nice take on it...and maybe I am too harsh as far as the lyrics are concerned!

dell (del), Monday, 19 July 2010 17:51 (fifteen years ago)

imho, lyrically the song's a marvel - as with Pocahantas there's a kinda willful naivete/idealized history going on, but then he throws in a bunch of ahistorical details that make the song both less specific and more universal, like yes he's singing about Cortez but he's ALSO singing about this bigger, more inscrutable thing

gotta say in general I don't find this album so hot tho, compared to the other stuff from the period. I like Don't Cry No Tears and Cortez and actively dislike Stupid Girl, with the rest being okay-ish but not amazing

Major Lolzer (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 19 July 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

The only song on Zuma I don't particularly like is "Drive Back"; everything else, including "Through My Sails," I more or less love, and count it as my favorite NY album after Gold Rush and Everybody Knows. The appeal of "Cortez"...hard to put into words, although you guys above do a good job. I can't resist linking to my high-school grad yearbook ('79), where I quoted the final line!

clemenza, Monday, 19 July 2010 19:30 (fifteen years ago)

I wonder if Debbie Eyre ever got to marry Billy Joel...

Major Lolzer (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 19 July 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)

omg allen east

iatee, Monday, 19 July 2010 19:33 (fifteen years ago)

also wkiw high school clemenza

iatee, Monday, 19 July 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

totally

Major Lolzer (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 19 July 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)

Help me out--I have no idea what "wkiw" means.

clemenza, Monday, 19 July 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

would kick it with

iatee, Monday, 19 July 2010 19:39 (fifteen years ago)

Yes--I kicked it here, there, and everywhere in high school.

clemenza, Monday, 19 July 2010 19:40 (fifteen years ago)

it is very apparent that you were the guy with the good weed

iatee, Monday, 19 July 2010 19:41 (fifteen years ago)

allen east probably the guy with the good model airplane glue tho

Major Lolzer (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 19 July 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

haaaaaaaaay penny

be told and get high on coconut (gbx), Monday, 19 July 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

I guess I was pretty open about that...Thing is, in '79, you could show up to a high-school class drunk or stoned, and--at least if your grades were good--it didn't seem to be a big deal if you confined yourself to being giggle-happy. I don't how that's received today; I suspect not as well, unless it's viewed as much less of a problem than bringing a gun to school. I shouldn't talk about former most classmates, but the two most...unusual people there are Keith Davies, who really did talk like Kermit the Frog, and Joy Fenton, who was a Trekkie.

clemenza, Monday, 19 July 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

Standard post-after corrections:

1. "don't know how"
2. "talk about former classmates"

clemenza, Monday, 19 July 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)

golf, tennis, and foxy women.

mizzell, Monday, 19 July 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)

having a hard time hearing kermit say that

mizzell, Monday, 19 July 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

questions:

1) can anyone direct me to a really good cover of "danger bird"? has such a thing ever happened?
2) what is the longest, most freaked out version of "danger bird" that ny/ch has recorded?

thank you

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 15 March 2012 16:25 (fourteen years ago)

don't know if i've heard a cover of "danger bird" -- I'm sure one exists.
this is interesting -- it was recorded before "Danger Bird" -- but maybe not released? some similarities.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO_b44e84zM
as for long, freaked out versions, I've heard him do it on the greendale tour where there's this big massed choir singing at some point. pretty freaky.

tylerw, Thursday, 15 March 2012 16:28 (fourteen years ago)

whoa @ link wray!!! a lot of similarities. great song!

is the greendale tour version available/recorded? i want to hear it reaaaaaally noisy.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 15 March 2012 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

i think just on bootleg. lemme see if i can dig it out for you.

tylerw, Thursday, 15 March 2012 16:45 (fourteen years ago)

:) thanks!!

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 15 March 2012 16:46 (fourteen years ago)

Danger Bird appears on Neil's 1997 live album 'Year of the Horse.' It's 13:34 long. Personally I much prefer the original version on 'Zuma' but if you want to hear a really long performance of it then check out 'Year of the Horse.' It's also featured in the movie of the same name.

agnosy, Thursday, 15 March 2012 17:22 (fourteen years ago)

I know that one! I think the Year of the Horse version is why I love this song so much tbh. Guess I should have mentioned that.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 15 March 2012 17:23 (fourteen years ago)

i think ny & ch had only played it once before the year of the horse tour. it took them more than 20 years to learn it.
there's also a kind of cool solo piano version from 2003 or so. not long, but pretty intense.

tylerw, Thursday, 15 March 2012 17:25 (fourteen years ago)

Kinda surprised there aren't a bunch of covers of Danger Bird, seems ripe for that.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 15 March 2012 17:26 (fourteen years ago)

bummed by lack of love for Through My Sails

the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Thursday, 15 March 2012 17:27 (fourteen years ago)

yeah surprised by that -- such a lovely song. maybe the best CSNY thing ever?

tylerw, Thursday, 15 March 2012 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

and as for covers of danger bird, seems like some band like Earth should be doing it.

tylerw, Thursday, 15 March 2012 17:29 (fourteen years ago)

Laura, I'm not sure in which show Neil played the longest version of Danger Bird but in case you're interested in tracking down bootlegs, this site lists all 39 performances of the song.

agnosy, Thursday, 15 March 2012 17:33 (fourteen years ago)

and as for covers of danger bird, seems like some band like Earth should be doing it.

― tylerw, Thursday, March 15, 2012 12:29 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark

exactly what i was thinking!!!

agnosy, thank you -- those are some ridiculous setlists!! i saw NY only once, on my 25th birthday in 2000.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 15 March 2012 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

Ha! Here's the setlist.

2000-08-23, Alltel Pavilion at Walnut Creek, Raleigh, North Carolina, USA
w/ The Friends And Relatives
Motorcycle Mama / Powderfinger / Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere / I Believe In You / Unknown Legend / Dance Dance Dance / Buffalo Springfield Again / Razor Love / From Hank To Hendrix / Daddy Went Walkin' / Peace Of Mind / Walk On / Winterlong / Bad Fog Of Loneliness / Words / Harvest Moon / World On A String / Tonight's The Night // Like A Hurricane // Mellow My Mind

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:03 (fourteen years ago)

hee hee, that sugar mtn site is pretty fun. setlists galore! posters! ticket stub scans!
was just listening to that road rocks live disc (which i think is the tour you saw). not amazing, but some col stuff, like the drums/guitar duel that "cowgirl in the sand" turns into.

tylerw, Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:08 (fourteen years ago)

La Lechera: somebody named 27 does a good cover of "Danger Bird." It's on Songs from the Edge of the Wing, if you can find it.

clemenza, Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

Thx clemenza - I listened on myspace -- not bad! Sounds pretty faithful to the original aside from the female vocals? I find myself wanting everyone in this band to go a little more nuts, though. I'm probably in the minority in that regard -- most people like more normal singing/pretty voices. She has a pretty voice.

If this super doomy mega heavy loud cover of Danger Bird doesn't exist yet, can I put out a request for ILX musicians to please get on it? There should be an all-requests ILX comp.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:42 (fourteen years ago)

I adore this record.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:44 (fourteen years ago)

I like the "fly fly fly" part at the end best.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:44 (fourteen years ago)

Here it is on Grooveshark, if anyone else is interested:

http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/07+Danger+Bird/3xCYUE?src=5

clemenza, Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:44 (fourteen years ago)

Danger Bird reminds me of Calvary Cross, so to that end there is this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJlIo-WU_0E

Trip Maker, Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:51 (fourteen years ago)

That's good and sloppy!!

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:56 (fourteen years ago)

Man, never heard the Link Wray song or this Peter Laughner song, both of which are great. Is this Laughner song on an oficial album? Mostly know him from Rocket From the Tombs etc. associations.

grandavis, Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:59 (fourteen years ago)

Watching you with one green eye

It's a cover of a Richard and Linda Thompson song, it is included on the Laughner comp Take the Guitar Player for a Ride.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 15 March 2012 19:01 (fourteen years ago)

Cool, thanks. Think I knew it was a cover, but I haven't dug into much Richard (or R&Linda) Thompson stuff. Great cover though.

grandavis, Thursday, 15 March 2012 19:03 (fourteen years ago)

<3 calvary cross btw, excellent song!! i had never heard that cover before. initially i was impressed only by the sloppiness, but that's what was missing from the danger bird cover posted upthread. it was good, but polite.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 15 March 2012 19:10 (fourteen years ago)

endless talking about danger bird: not back at it, still at it
POLL: YEAR OF THE HORSE -- Neil Young and Crazy Horse

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 15 March 2012 19:26 (fourteen years ago)

i used to go to my college's music library, grab this from the LP stacks, and sit in a booth listening to it. like everyday. i really like don't cry no tears.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 16 March 2012 02:39 (fourteen years ago)

you asked for it -- four live versions of "danger bird" here: http://ow.ly/9HFfJ

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2012 17:48 (fourteen years ago)

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!! thank you so much!
this makes my day

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 16 March 2012 17:53 (fourteen years ago)

no problemo.
listening to these, it *is* really ridiculous that Earth hasn't covered this song. is there a petition we can get going?

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2012 17:54 (fourteen years ago)

i would both sign and distribute that petition

did you see this? it's not very metal, but it's good and the lights are pretty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ux6v5iIn5NA

thanks again -- i can't wait to listen to these at home.

(my name is amanda btw, i am a real person!)

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 16 March 2012 17:57 (fourteen years ago)

ugh sorry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux6v5iIn5NA

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 16 March 2012 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

ooh, that is pretty good. the echoey sax works!
hi amanda, i know you are real!

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2012 18:07 (fourteen years ago)

this is a more straightforward cover, but i like it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N17vG_pfKhY&feature=related

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2012 18:12 (fourteen years ago)

i just wanted to reiterate that i am a real person who has genuine thanks for all of these danger birds.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 16 March 2012 18:16 (fourteen years ago)

Listening to 40 min of Danger Bird reminds me of when NY says "It's all one song!" on Year of the Horse. In this case, it is ALL THE SAME SONG. I love it!

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 16 March 2012 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

hee hee, yeah. if i was more technologically adept, i'd mix all of these into one continuous track.

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2012 19:45 (fourteen years ago)

some seriously weird shit going on in the santa cruz version! also enthusiastic belting FLYYYYYYY <3

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 16 March 2012 19:58 (fourteen years ago)

here's the show where i saw him do it. i remember it seeming so slow. so slooooooow.

1996-09-11, The Forum, Inglewood, California, USA
w/ Crazy Horse
Hey Hey, My My (Into The Black) / Pocahontas / Big Time / Slip Away / The Needle And The Damage Done / Heart Of Gold / Sugar Mountain / Cinnamon Girl / F*!#in' Up / Cortez The Killer / Music Arcade / Like A Hurricane // This Town / Sedan Delivery / Dangerbird

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2012 20:02 (fourteen years ago)

the acoustic piano one is so tender that it should come with a warning
good lord

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 16 March 2012 20:03 (fourteen years ago)

yeah that one is great, almost like he's not sure where to go with it. seems to be the only time he did it like that.

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2012 20:04 (fourteen years ago)

thx for all these danger birds

assume folks have heard this, 20 minutes of CtK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqb1Cp3r2rw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htFJUrYd2es

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 16 March 2012 20:16 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

Art class working quietly, Zuma playing loudly off YouTube; as life's diminishing pleasures go, this is up there. (No one's inquired, but no one's complained, either.)

clemenza, Monday, 3 March 2014 14:53 (twelve years ago)

nine months pass...

I'm ready to make this happen if anyone else is. I still think it would sound awesome.

questions:

1) can anyone direct me to a really good cover of "danger bird"? has such a thing ever happened?
2) what is the longest, most freaked out version of "danger bird" that ny/ch has recorded?

thank you

― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:25 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark

vigetable (La Lechera), Thursday, 18 December 2014 18:35 (eleven years ago)

Dangerbird too low, even if it is equal 4th

Master of Treacle, Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:33 (eleven years ago)

bottom 3 otm though

vigetable (La Lechera), Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:38 (eleven years ago)

Or 3rd, even (DB)

Master of Treacle, Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:42 (eleven years ago)

stupid girl is just a godawful shit song. don't know how anyone could say it's their favorite on this album but then again i guess i do know. i think i've only made it through that song once or twice, usually i skip it as soon as he says YOU'RE SUCH A STUPID GIRL. fuck off neil you should've known better

marcos, Thursday, 18 December 2014 23:11 (eleven years ago)

i do wish he'd re-thought the lyrics but i give it a pass because guitars

tylerw, Thursday, 18 December 2014 23:13 (eleven years ago)

Stupid Girl seems like more of a Don'n'Glenn type song

Οὖτις, Thursday, 18 December 2014 23:17 (eleven years ago)

lyrically

Οὖτις, Thursday, 18 December 2014 23:18 (eleven years ago)

XPS Besides, What's Poncho-era Crazy Horse without something boneheaded?

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 18 December 2014 23:18 (eleven years ago)

i was about to defend 'stupid girl' but yeah it's garbage

languagelessness (mattresslessness), Thursday, 18 December 2014 23:29 (eleven years ago)

guitars seconded, not garbage

Root It Oot (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 December 2014 23:43 (eleven years ago)

sorry, that is just how i feel.

languagelessness (mattresslessness), Thursday, 18 December 2014 23:46 (eleven years ago)

Also stupid lyrics from Neil Young? Not exactly an unusual occurence... though less so than Lou Reed for instance.

Root It Oot (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 December 2014 23:47 (eleven years ago)

Lou Reed would have at least thrown a couple good, cruel jokes into a song called "Stupid Girl"

Οὖτις, Thursday, 18 December 2014 23:48 (eleven years ago)

It's no classic, that's for sure!

Root It Oot (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 December 2014 23:49 (eleven years ago)

stupid girl sucks because neil could do/has done so much better. he has a good heart.

but more importantly, who is going to help me slay danger bird

vigetable (La Lechera), Friday, 19 December 2014 00:49 (eleven years ago)

barstool blues is fuckin CRAZY. i burn my voice out singing to that tune

marcos, Friday, 19 December 2014 00:49 (eleven years ago)

YEAH

languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 19 December 2014 00:50 (eleven years ago)

not me! ~ right in my range~

vigetable (La Lechera), Friday, 19 December 2014 00:50 (eleven years ago)

danger bird is such a dinosaur of a classic hard rock song, and i say that in the most positive way. i listen to it and i just think "heavy classic rock dinosaur" but it blows away any of the real classic rock dinosaurs

marcos, Friday, 19 December 2014 00:51 (eleven years ago)

i sing along to the barstool blues solo too. doodeedooo neerneerneerneeeeeer

languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 19 December 2014 00:51 (eleven years ago)

oh totally

marcos, Friday, 19 December 2014 00:52 (eleven years ago)

also sad to see through my sails not get a ton of love. i dig that tune but i dig CSNY for the most part.

marcos, Friday, 19 December 2014 00:58 (eleven years ago)

also i think i'm gonna start saying "YOU REALLY GOT A LOT TO LEARN" whenever i disagree with someone

marcos, Friday, 19 December 2014 00:59 (eleven years ago)

think i'll start saying "I SAW YOU IN MERCEDES BENZ" when i see joe-joe in mercedes benz

$80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 19 December 2014 01:36 (eleven years ago)

Maybe worse than the lyrics is the (unusual occurrence of) Neil's double vocal track - in octaves, no less (not harmony). Hate that. Definitely worst song on Zuma

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, 19 December 2014 01:48 (eleven years ago)

yeah those octaves are... not kind

languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 19 December 2014 02:06 (eleven years ago)

Lou Reed would have at least thrown a couple good, cruel jokes into a song called "Stupid Girl"

Lou did of course write a song about a "Stupid Man", a man who hitch-hiked out of a good life
in Saskatchewan and who had big big plans to build a house upon some land (I mean, how stupid is that?)

Root It Oot (Tom D.), Friday, 19 December 2014 12:57 (eleven years ago)

that song is great

Οὖτις, Friday, 19 December 2014 21:29 (eleven years ago)

six years pass...

neil's most consistent album

actually otm in my book

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 20:51 (five years ago)

Brad have you heard Dume??

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 20:54 (five years ago)

i haven't!!!!

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 20:54 (five years ago)

This is Young's best album.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:05 (five years ago)

how can an album contain "Lookin' for a Love," "Don't Cry No Tears," and "Pardon My Heart"?!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:05 (five years ago)

Xpost Brad it's amazing, basically everything they did during the Zuma sessions, including Crazy Horse doing Ride My Llama,a studio Powder finger, one or two unheard songs, plus the Zuma stuff, basically like if Zuma was a double album

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:17 (five years ago)

A very close second to Everybody/Gold Rush for me, ahead of the more celebrated Beach/Tonight. Not a song I consider less than great, even "Through My Sails."

clemenza, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:19 (five years ago)

"through my sails" is one of my favorites tbh. "stupid girl" is the one i roll my eyes at a little.

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:30 (five years ago)

gotta hear Dume I guess

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:36 (five years ago)

"through my sails" sits proudly on a playlist i created called "neil young songs that make you feel some type of way"

voodoo chili, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:36 (five years ago)

lol there are a lot of those

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:37 (five years ago)

oh nm i see what u mean

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:37 (five years ago)

right, it's that particular "type of way" that only the loveliest neil songs make you feel haha

voodoo chili, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:39 (five years ago)

it's a vibe for sure

"total confusion
disillusion"

set to the prettiest lullabye

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:40 (five years ago)

*Googles Dume*

Duke, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:48 (five years ago)

Ah. An Archives thing.

Duke, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:50 (five years ago)

Danger Bird is so so good

charlie rex, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:50 (five years ago)

I know "Stupid Girl" is not exactly made for these times. As I think others have pointed out in various Neil threads: it's about a specific woman, not women, and I don't think Neil has ever been particularly misogynistic. He's mostly starry-eyed and worshipful, which I guess is also an archaic way of treating women. In any event, I mostly just hear "Stupid Girl" as sound.

clemenza, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 22:09 (five years ago)

Oh i know all that, still not my fav

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 22:12 (five years ago)

great song imo

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 22:13 (five years ago)

he's not necessarily misogynistic, just weird about women sometimes imo xp

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 22:14 (five years ago)

god the cortez on rust bucket rules so hard

brimstead, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 22:15 (five years ago)

Danger Bird is so so good


Otm

brimstead, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 22:15 (five years ago)

"danger bird" would've gotten my vote here if "cortez" weren't the greatest song ever written

voodoo chili, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 22:21 (five years ago)

Lou Reed loved "Danger Bird" iirc

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 22:28 (five years ago)

"Stupid Girl" has great unusual chord changes.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 23:01 (five years ago)

Plus great guitar sound/playing.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 23:02 (five years ago)

Young's gee-tar has never been mixed on an album to sound this crinkly and awesome

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 23:18 (five years ago)

Pretty sure every single solitary man of his generation has problematic beliefs about how to treat women.
“Stupid Girl” does not move me and I consider it filler but easy to skip/endure when every other song is good on the album.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 23:27 (five years ago)

Pretty sure every single solitary man of his generation has problematic beliefs about how to treat women.
“Stupid Girl” does not move me and I consider it filler but easy to skip/endure when every other song is good on the album.

Yep - hearty amen to that LL - Love Zuma and all the recent Neil live/archive releases & the horse has been the theme music for the 'Country Home' but when Zuma is on we make a show for skipping 'Stupid Girl'

BlackIronPrison, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 23:34 (five years ago)

I was thinking about "Through My Sails" and how, up to that point (it gets worse starting with Long May You Run), uniformly excellent Neil's songs are whenever he got together with CSN: "Helpless," "Country Girl," "Sea of Madness," "Ohio," "Through My Sails," probably a couple of others. I imagine--I'm sure others have suggested the same--Neil loved showing off, loved to remind them how much better a songwriter he basically was.

clemenza, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 23:53 (five years ago)

I could never love this record, I find the epics dull. My favourite extended Crazy Horse song is "Change Your Mind".
"Barstool Blues" would have been my pick from this one.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 00:32 (five years ago)

I tend to skip "Cortez...," yeah.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 00:45 (five years ago)

I don't object in principle to Neil playing three chords endlessly, but the song itself has to mean something to me.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 00:52 (five years ago)

If you don’t like the slow jams are you even listening to Neil Young?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 00:57 (five years ago)

"On the Beach" is more my speed.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:00 (five years ago)

also, technically it's three chords i guess but they are turned into quite the maze

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:01 (five years ago)

"Cortez" means everything to me, though I might have trouble explaining why.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:03 (five years ago)

Neil's slow ones are spookier than his quickies: "Running Dry (Requiem for the Rockets)," my god

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:04 (five years ago)

"On the Beach" is more my speed.

Not enough electric guitar.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:22 (five years ago)

Attempting to duplicate the atmosphere described in Shakey, two buddies and I about fifteen years ago tried the recipe for honey sliders at my place: honey, a little butter, lots of weed in a frying pan at low heat. We spooned the coagulated shit. It tasted like burned spaghetti. For fifteen minutes we condemned our stupidity. Then...holy shit. We couldn't move. The nicest low-hanging buzz.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:30 (five years ago)

I've been wondering if these archival releases will uncover a hitherto-unknown full reggae version of Cortez he laid down and then forgot about.

a sad robot dancing alone in the corner of a suburban disco (Matt #2), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:41 (five years ago)

now I imagine Tonight-era Bowie covering it in a reggae version.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:41 (five years ago)

Plus marimbas.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:45 (five years ago)

he came dancin' across da watah mahn

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:47 (five years ago)

Maybe as a duet with Iggy?

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:50 (five years ago)

Iggy from "Taxi" maybe.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:54 (five years ago)

A calypso version, even

a sad robot dancing alone in the corner of a suburban disco (Matt #2), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:55 (five years ago)

Guys, I'm going to bed soon, dreamlessly, I hope.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:57 (five years ago)

"On the Beach" is more my speed.

― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, March 23, 2021 8:00 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

so three chords is boring, but four chords is totally cool

voodoo chili, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 03:37 (five years ago)

i personally don’t think the number of chords correlated to the quality of a song, but i digress

voodoo chili, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 03:38 (five years ago)

I said I don't object to three chords.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 04:13 (five years ago)

"Cowgirl in the Sand" and "Change Your Mind" are based around the same two chords, but I find the latter more meaningful as a song, as a lyric and performance.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 04:19 (five years ago)

cowgirl in the sand has way more than two chords?

voodoo chili, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 04:34 (five years ago)

Yeah the bridge/chorus has at least 5 iirc

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 10:54 (five years ago)

Yes, but at least half of each song is jamming on the same two chords.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 12:11 (five years ago)

They can’t all be “Roadrunner”!

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 12:13 (five years ago)

counting the number of chords used in a song strikes me as the absolute worst way to engage with music

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 13:27 (five years ago)

I still can't remember when
Or how I lost my way

voodoo chili, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 13:50 (five years ago)

dume is def my favorite disc on archives 2 so far. never loved danger bird but at the same time a 7 minute doper jam fits so well right there in the 2nd slot, especially balancing out cortez at the end. the dume version of powderfinger probably works as a good replacement

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 14:08 (five years ago)

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), my point was that the quality of Neil's songs isn't consistent with how many chords they have.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 14:22 (five years ago)

for real though, i remember the first time i heard "cortez," i thought the extended intro was like slowly pulling back layers of an onion or something, it was almost bewildering in its meandering raggedness, but obviously the feeling of the thing has a pretty direct and strong trajectory like almost everything neil did in the classic years.

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 14:47 (five years ago)

One thing that can be said in favour of songs based around a limited set of chords is that the form is highly conducive to improvised lead work. (John McLaughlin would doubtless disagree, but whatevs)

I Advance Masked (Vast Halo), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 14:59 (five years ago)

one year passes...

https://dangerousminds.net/content/uploads/images/made/content/uploads/images/neil_young_zuma_1975_465_240_int.jpg

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 02:59 (three years ago)

The best album ever.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 09:22 (three years ago)

The best beach ever.

henry s, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 15:32 (three years ago)

Santa Monica Beach is the location chosen by photographer Bob Seidemann for the cover of Neil Young's fifth album, “On The Beach ” which was released in 1974.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 16:14 (three years ago)

why the hell would you do that when zuma is like 10 miles down the road, lol. pure laziness? some money thing?

(grim) pump track (wales) (map), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 16:27 (three years ago)

On the Beach is a different album from Zuma

Josefa, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 17:25 (three years ago)

Only 70s Neil album I'm all that bothered about (and maybe Rust) and what is surely now one of my favourite album billboards.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 19:54 (three years ago)

On the Beach is a different album from Zuma

― Josefa, Wednesday, August 31, 2022 6:25 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

jesus, what a brain fart lol

(grim) pump track (wales) (map), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 20:13 (three years ago)

James Mazzeo, the Zuma (and other Neil projects) artist, passed away recently: http://neilyoungnews.thrasherswheat.org/2022/08/james-mazzeo-1944-2022.html

tylerw, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 20:23 (three years ago)

Wow, that Zuma drawing looks great in color.

henry s, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 20:36 (three years ago)

RIP "Sandy" Mazzeo, one of the standout supporting players in Shakey

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 September 2022 00:15 (three years ago)

three years pass...

50 years, er, young today

tylerw, Monday, 10 November 2025 16:09 (six months ago)

Clearly it's time for him to re-record it with a different band and track list.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 November 2025 16:13 (six months ago)


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