best tribe called quest album

too obv

wish it wasn't true, but it is too obv

too obv

― The Reverend, Friday, January 30, 2009 12:40 AM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

midnight marauders

midnight marauders

midnight marauders

― eman, Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:55 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

midnight marauders

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so obvs

midnight marauders

― eman, Friday, January 30, 2009 12:55 AM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

midnight marauders

― sam500, Friday, January 30, 2009 1:11 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

midnight marauders

― eman, Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:55 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

midnight marauders

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― ☺♑ (joygoat), Friday, January 30, 2009 1:16 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

are you kidding? instinctive travels by a landslide!

can I just call this as 60% low end, 30% mm, 10% long-ass title, and a challop or two?

Why did dude even put the last two as options

can I just call this as 60% low end, 30% mm, 10% long-ass title, and a challop or two?

― The Reverend, Friday, January 30, 2009 12:35 AM (30 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

did u read the thread ???

i voted 'low end'

of course the mm fans are going to be more vocal

i'm surprised at this. i thought ..LOW END had a huge fan base. the radio links make it MM for me. it's a pain-in-the-arse on most albums when they do that (hello Basement Jaxx) but it works great there.

eh, I never really notice the interludes on jaxx stuff, but it's pretty annoying on mm

Beats Rhymes and Life as well as love Movement are way underrated. BR&L in particular was a record i couldn't stop playing when it came out. It is dark, dense and world weary though- they had defintiely left the 'Daisy age' behind at this point. I can't decide between this and Low End theory. Love Movement is quite different from the rest of their catalogue sure but turn those songs up and they thump as good as anything. Tribe stuck to their theory and they really did have such grat low ed on all their records.

Didn't J Dilla have a hand in the last two?

love movement.

BRL is the only one that really sucks.

MM is great but I gotta rep for Low End, which might've been the first rap album I ever really loved.

Low End.

went straight through low end yesterday and I'm not quite sure why it got such high marks. beats were kind of weak, even compared to rhymes, beats, and life. lyrically, it's probably the best one, though.

so yeah, marauders.

"I'm a midnight marauder, stick a q-tip in your pussy, that's my low-end theory"

The Low End Theory, easy.

....though "Stephen Biko" is my favorite Tribe song.

"I'm a midnight marauder, stick a q-tip in your pussy, that's my low-end theory"

― "Buri" Al Yankovich (Dom Passantino), Friday, January 30, 2009 10:06 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

"i sat on her speakerboxxx, she gave me the love below"

Midnight Marauders > Beats, Rhymes and Life > Low End Theory > People's Instinctive... > Love Movement

BRL is really unfairly maligned. Low End Theory is good but I only really enjoy a few songs from it.

Sometimes I'd swear Midnight Marauders is my favorite album ever.

I'd put people's instinctive higher than low end, even.

bsl's still fourth place for me, though.

low end theory no contest

doesn't hit mm's highs but its consistently good throughout

Hoos OTM

am almost tempted to vote for the first album cuz i used to zone to that but it's low end theory

I voted for the first album, which I've loved since it came out. Plus, shit, "Can I Kick It?"

The world will always say Low End, but really, Low End is uneven. It's just 1991 was teh suck in Hip-Hop, and Low End was extremely needed.

Marauders is the best listen that has also aged well.

And the Beats...Life hates can suck only one testicle. There're some good songs on it. Same for Love Movement.

what are these so-called low points of Low End Theory

It's not low points. Just 1 part 1990, and opne part 19992. Uneven.

WHO FUCKING CARS IT'S GOING TO WIN DUH

Low End gave Hip-Hop direction, frankly. Breaking Atoms, Future w/o a Past, and Don't Sweat the Technique were all a distant 2nd aiding in the 1990-1992 transition.

i'm in the 10% PITATPOR

breaking atoms mad overrated otm

imo rather

"had to be there, blah blah blah"

People need to remember the impact Andre Harrell had on Hip-Hop, and the "keep it real" campaign that immediately followed. Keep it real became mass in 1992. Harrell uprooted shit around 1990 (anyone remember LL's "B-Man" campaign that year?). Low End was instrumental in that transition.

When asked why the LONS/Tribe collab, they were both like, "we're doing the same thing and moving in the same direction in this time, but we really don't know each other." Extra P of course, taught by Paul C (who I'm nearly 100% convinced developed the 45rpm+8 SP1200 formula that became industry standard until the MPC60II took root), and Extra P went on to produce a little for Eric B & Rakim and Tribe within that short span.

Onyx, YBT, Flavor Unit, etc followed immediately in their wake.

nah fuck that breaking atoms is dope & i was 8 when that shit dropped

granted i have a shitty copy prob but all the beats sound tinny as shit

Sorry dudes. I'll shut up. Just that this thread hits home since Front Door was today's jam, and I got to thinking about how this was a weird time in Hip-Hop (2nd only to how weird 1985 was).

but even like vs. critical beatdown i don't think breaking atoms stands up but dudes talk about it in hushed tones and shit

i also dont get it at all when folks say theres low points on 'low end theory' or its inconsistent -- note im not responding to pappawheelie's criticism here since his is making a different point, that its inconsistent in the way the chronic is (all the songs are great some are more dated than others) -- maybe this is too much 'chiefing while listening to bob marley'-type criticism but i cant think of a record i can put on w/ such a consistent vibe & song-for-song pound-for-pound quality like low end

like, im more likely to put midnite marauders tracks on a mixtape for somebody, but im more likely to put on LET and just zone from beginning to end

but even like vs. critical beatdown i don't think breaking atoms stands up but dudes talk about it in hushed tones and shit

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, January 30, 2009 5:47 PM (53 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i can see how this would happen pretty easily w/ basically any 'golden era' rap record just because of the way dudes talk about these things on those blogs constantly unearthing long lost large professor remixes and shit but to me whats great about it is that the songs are pretty universal still & the beats are just nice ... like "just hanging out," "looking at the front door," timeless raps on those that have actually aged BETTER than folks probably thought they would at the time just cuz they're on some universal anyone-can-relate shit

i think the other thing is just that low end was the first tribe record i heard so its the one i think of as being the most-tribe-ish. and MM is like a variation on a theme, or something. then BR&L is a 'radical' (not really radical) different direction. & the first record is a bunch of kids sitting around having fun (which is dope on its own yeah -- for a lot of artists id probably ride for that record first but when your 2nd & 3rd records are LET & MM ...)

yeah i mean...damn. i can't even pretend to be impartial or whatever when it comes to that era in rap. it was just the best thing ever.

SHould note how many hits tribe had form 1st album on yo raps

but waaaay too long, got sick of interludes, and tip reigns, so the 1st album aged terribly

i really didn't mean to get this on an extra p tip though...

xp, well, neddless to say matt, 1982-1995 hip-hop was my life.

i now have no life

2003-2009, ilx was pappawheelie's life

my first embarrassing post was 02 deej :-(

haha it started out as a self deprecating post then i decided to make it a zing

It's just 1991 was teh suck in Hip-Hop

wtf dude are you on crack

Death Certificate
Cypress Hill
Sons of the P

Thanks Dilla/Deeee-Lite/Shibuya-Kei

GODDMAN XPOST

Yes shakey. I am on crack. I am still learning about the hip-hop.

Brand Nubian was December '90 does that count

Nice!

Yes shakey. I am on crack. I am still learning about the hip-hop.

lolololol

Dude, you frontin of you don't act like August 1987-1989 was like HOLY SHIT NEARLY EVERY ALBUM, then Uptown records/New Jacvk Swing infiltrated, then R&B infiltrated/co-opted, then hip-hop became vocally outraged...

Yes, good albums in 1991. Doesn't mean that the gold didn't tarnish.

extra P xxxp

Geto Boys We Can't Be Stopped!

I'm drunk, so I will stop.

I promise...myself.

, you frontin of you don't act like August 1987-1989 was like HOLY SHIT NEARLY EVERY ALBUM, then Uptown records/New Jacvk Swing infiltrated, then R&B infiltrated/co-opte

yeah I can kinda see this timeline (lolz "Try to Do Me" for ex), I guess I'm just more fond of the albums from this tail end of the trad "golden age" period cuz it was like the earlier stuff had paved the way and broken the ground and now groups were really stretching out and that was interesting to me.

I tend to say (despite argumentative dudes who will find this afterward) 1987-1989 was wow, then a bit of a lull with great moments within, then 1992-1995 was WOW.

And 1985-1984 was the other wow for me

er, 1982-1984

It's just 1991 was teh suck in Hip-Hop

wtf dude are you on crack

Death Certificate
Cypress Hill
Sons of the P

sadly, that's about it.
maybe _2pacalypse now_ and _a future without a a past_ in there too

no second a

Low End gave Hip-Hop direction, frankly. Breaking Atoms, Future w/o a Past, and Don't Sweat the Technique were all a distant 2nd aiding in the 1990-1992 transition.

― better than 10 superbowls! (PappaWheelie V), Friday, January 30, 2009 6:25 PM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark

ah.

I did not experience this lull you speak of but whatevs your mileage may vary etc

I guess I'm just bitching cause Heavy D quit sampling AWB to be all love daddy.

And Big (love) Daddy Kane too.

Fuck a love daddy. All love daddies that ain't me. Fuck you.

UMCs Fruits of Nature
WC and the Maaad Circle Ain't a Damn Thing Changed

Naughty by Nature

UMC's & LONS were my 1991 survival guide, no doubt

Shit, UMC's cover was on MARTIN LIKE EVERY SINGLE WEEK AND

hey guuuuuyyyys i'm voting for midnight marauders

attn: gr8080

hey

what it do pwv

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redhead kingpin was cool

sorta

I went to a Floridian show in 90/91:

Candy Fresh
Success N Effect
Anquette
Redhead Kingpin
Biz Markie
Clay D & Get Fresh Crew
2 Live Crew

Everyone killed it but Success and Kingpin (Anquette was accused of puttin on the lip sync), which was sad, because I liked all the acts to a degree.

But yeah, Kingpin was the worst show, despite Get Lifted sample.

I will admit, of all the acts to sample ESG's UFO, I still think of it as Kingpins. Not sure why.

[i]It's just 1991 was teh suck in Hip-Hop

wtf dude are you on crack

Death Certificate
Cypress Hill
Sons of the P

sadly, that's about it.
maybe _2pacalypse now_ and _a future without a a past_ in there too[i]

Efil4zaggin
We Can't Be Stopped
Organized Konfusion
A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
Mr. Hood
Ain't a Damn Thing Changed
To Whom It May Concern
Quik is the Name
Soul Clap
Mr. Scarface is Back
Bazerk Bazerk Bazerk

New Q-Tip is pretty sweet.

doesn't hit mm's highs but its consistently good throughout

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― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, January 30, 2009 3:11 PM Bookmark

Naw, Low End more consistent and higher highs. Is anything ever made by anybody (Tribe included) fucking w/ "Buggin' Out"?

oK THEN CAN PEOPLE TELL ME WHAT WAS SO GAWDAFUL ABOUT THE LAST TWO RECORDS. I think the worst one is easily the first. Is kind of shallow compared to what came after although does have some great tracks. The rest though I think are all different and all great. As I said upthread BRL all angry and dark and Love movement a real attempt to try something different with good results I thought. I love MM and Low End but really played those last two a lot very lound and very often when they came out.

BR&L is a consistent record that never peaks. The Love Movement has a few seriously dope songs but large chunks of it are barely listenable. The first one is great because it sounds like some kids who have no idea how to make a normal rap record, but ideas out the ass, fucking around in the studio and coming up with something that sounds like nothing else. It's not my favorite by them, but they could never make a record like that again, because everything afterward sounded a lot more professional, not necessarily to its benefit.

I guess the real problem with the last two records is that their spark is dead and you can hear them going through the motions. Sometimes they managed to make something good out of it, but even then it sounds pretty labored.

Tribe called quest always worked hard at their songs-No? I guess first one is a little more off the cuff but one of their consistent traits is the thoughtfulness and density of their records although the delivery is so smooth and natural sounding.

Ugh. Sorry for supplying the bait for this nonsense...

I mean, dudes ain't even reading the thread en total before posting their AMG/Rolling Stone top albums to qualify some shit I said (as if they think I do/don't matter) rather than qualifying their selections...

which is how ilm got its current rep.

I remember BR&L, Stakes Is High, and It Was Written all coming out right around the same time and being SO excited about all of them and just being disappointed in them. Not really angry (though I did ditch the Nas record and haven't heard it since then), just that I expected more and really wasn't into the sung hooks that started to show up.

see for me de la soul had a much bigger drop off from successive records than tribe did. at this stage br&l was so much better than stakes is high. at least i played it about 100 times more.

Damn, the Nas is by far my fave of those three.

BR&L and Stakes Is High are v similar in that they both feel like their respective groups reaching a point where they were no longer having fun and it's all kind of :-/

"The Bizness" is great tho, mostly cause of Common. "Peep game like a referee/ in a test of three outta five/ whip anybody's ass at NBA Live" is one of my favorite lines ever XD

which is how ilm got its current rep.

― better than 10 superbowls! (PappaWheelie V), Saturday, January 31, 2009 4:48 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Damn, the Nas is by far my fave of those three.

I was just thinking about how I really need to hear this again. I remember disliking it so much at the time and there's no way it could be that bad. There was a lot of hiphop in the late 90's that I really didn't like at the time but love now.

fwiw, the singles from that album were the first Nas I heard

I mean, that probably colors my view of it, is what I'm sayin'

"BR&L and Stakes Is High are v similar in that they both feel like their respective groups reaching a point where they were no longer having fun and it's all kind of :-/

― The Reverend"

interesting in that they both featured J Dilla on production, who brought a much more stoned feeling to both groups than they already had. to be honest, i didn't really like BR&L when it dropped, but recently i've been checking it again and i kind of love it. TLM is good, but inconsistent. the best tracks are again the ones dilla had something to do with. i feel like maybe that sound was just not what people were ready for at that time? i know all my friends were down with tribe and de la but neither cared about those albums especially. we were definitely listening to more gangster sounding shit at the time, perhaps this shit was just too chilled out? either which way, i think all those albums work very well for me today.

also, i have all the tribe albums as they are one of my favorite artists, but the one i listen to the least is definitely the first one. i just don't like it. all the others get fairly consistent rotation....

Stakes is High>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BR&L

stakes is deeper lyrically but br&l had better beats & hooks & ish... more bumpable

^^^agreed

I generally prefer Tribe and De La when they're goofing off and there is little to none of that on BR&L and SIH. Love Movement and the Art Official albums are a bit different. Neither sounds as inspired as those acts early respective first three albums, but both are much more lighthearted than the albums directly preceding them.

The Love Movement in particular has a feeling like their trying to very hard not to make another album like BR&L. Which was probably necessary, but it works to varying degrees. Even when everything comes together on TLM, it feels more like they're making something that jams out of necessity rather than inspiration. Too crafty, too labored, not fluid enough. And when it doesn't work, it's far worse than anything they'd done before.

fwiw, I'm going back to The Love Movement for the first time in quite a while now.

Stakes is High was initially a letdown, but I ended up playing it more than any other De La album-- bumpability factor high.
BRL was & is underwhelming.

Okay, so I am wrong. The Love Movement is pretty dope. I just didn't like it when I was a teenager and first getting into ATCQ. I think I'll chalk it up at least partially to my increased tolerance for songs about relationships, of which there are a lot on this album.

If it contained more than one "Find a Way," I might give it another listen.

The Redman/Busta posse cut has always been my favorite track on it.

xp shouldnt you have a word for that like respeakering or some such

"poor memory"

top 3 slept-on dope dope dope trax off the love movement (which ive been reppin on ilm since... 2000??)

like it like that (tip kills this)

pad & pen (did a blend of little brother over this beat shd post when i get home)

hot 4 u

what relavnce the title and choice of artwork- all the white etc...stylistically i think they were trying consiously to evolve- move their sound in a new direction- futuristic and elemental.white also a clean sklate, new, fresh etc.. Find a way one of the stramngest lead singles evah but I love it now. its like nothing else in their catalogue.

Beats, Rhymes and Life. Pretty intense, mournful beats gave Tip the gravitas he needed.

Yeah, I just prefer Tip and co. when they aren't leaning so hard on "gravitas".

i just think you guys who don't like BR&L need to smoke more weed.

eh. no interest

http://www.zshare.net/audio/5493713312e6b76f/

little brother - the way you do it (plum drank pad & pen rmx)

consequence's whiny voice ruined brl (although i like what hes done with kanye this decade a lot more)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

curses! defeated again

not as wide a spread as I thought, though, for LET and MM

People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm 6

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I had an idea recently for a very short film/sketch called "The Guy Who Knew All The Lyrics to 'Scenario'"

Scene 1: Middle school dance, early 90s. Guy is kind of standing around dork-like, but then 'Scenario' starts playing and he comes to life, spitting all the lyrics and wowing his friends.

Scene 2: College party. Same thing. Guy is momentarily life of the party.

Scene 3: His wedding. Same. Friends slightly weary but still get into it.

Scene 4: His son's Bar Mitzvah. Guy convinces DJ to play Scenario and does his routine. Son embarrassed.

Scene 5: Dj'd event in nursing home. Guy has become vegetable. DJ plays scenario, he comes to life...

hahaha

Michael Rappaport and his Tribe documentary. TNC likes.

never saw this poll. would've voted for MM.

^^would view

ILM got this poll right, even in the right order for the top 2. Low End Theory is one of my favorite hip hop albums ever.

I do think Beats, Rhymes, and Life is underrated though. I mean it's no candidate for best album but there are some amazing cuts on it.

anyone else see the doc yet?

the first three albums get dramatic introductions with animated titles by the No Mas dude and then the last two get breezed over in a single breath

i dont think any music from the last two was even used?

heh rapaport is a music critic

also i cant believe i sat through a feature length documentary on the group A Tribe Called Quest and I still have no idea what the fuck Jarobi does

gr8080, that description has renewed my interest in the doc

haha

it was good, but pretty "by-the-numbers"

phife is very endearing, its a shame he didnt come up in the youtube era

lol jarobi

sometimes in rap groups a guy dies and they just keep talking about him like he's still there and keeping his memory alive, with tribe they did that with a guy who didn't die or anything

yeah but otoh its pretty rad that one of the most influential and succesful rap groups of the 90s had a member who was just there to kick it and be a bro w/ them

Jarobi - hip-hop = Bez

you could also say he was the Jerome to Q-Tip/Pfife's Morris Day gestalt

so they don't talk about jarobi? that was one of the big reasons i was curious about the movie, always wondered what happened to him

no he's in it tons!!

those guys were at least around and visible, though, Jarobi's presence was barely even evident but for a handful of the videos

xpost

jarobi was on stage when i saw them on their farewell tour in '98, and he's been around for most of the reunions in the last 10 years

oh i know but i mean during the 'classic era'

also i heard at one point he was a very successful chef, but that's never mentioned in the doc. aside from some shots of him w/ his kids they never really get around to what the fuck he does post-tibe, let alone what he did during his run w/ them.

xp

i mean he's basically a dude who was w/ them from the start, provided huge emotional support, gets referred to as "the spirit" of the group. he was a hype-man w/ top billing basically?

Shocked by how overlooked Love Movement is. I wouldn't argue it's better than the first three—though I personally love it more than any of them except for Low End Theory—but it has aged amazingly well, and by paving the way for so much of the post-Dilla hip-hop of the 2000s it's the album that illustrates how creatively fertile and relevant they still were when they called it quits. If you're making a documentary that argues their breakup was premature or this big loss for music, it seems a shame to overlook the album that best makes the case for what could have been.

good point, wasn't rapaport's reasoning for doing this whole thing was he was upset that they ever stopped making albums?

xps what, you totally missed those scenes where he's cooking in his restaurant!

oh hm i guess i did

Shocked by how overlooked Love Movement is

The Love Movement is overlooked because it is terrible and boring

best part of this whole film is the extended praise/explination of phife's "now you got Seaman's Furniture" rhyme

lol

bust a nut inside your eye, etc...phife is really rap's unacknowledged forefather of ejaculation puns

anybody seen this movie yet? got a free ticket for a local showing tomorrow. as someone who has always loved their entire discography but got into it way after their demise, wondering if this is interesting 'fill-in-the-blanks' or if it's just stuff anybody could find on Wikipedia.

probably more the latter than former, but still worth it IMO

Saw the doc in SF and Phife showed up to Q&A afterward. I guess he lives in Oakland now with his wife. Somebody asked him "If you could only save one lyric, what would it be." He said the Seaman's Furniture bit and everybody laughed. That's what I like about the doc -- it's not just a character sketch, they get into how some of the songs came about, the stories behind them, etc. It's got its heart in the right place and there are a ton of guest spots.

doc is great A+ required viewing for any fan imho

also i heard at one point he was a very successful chef, but that's never mentioned in the doc.

this is totally covered in the movie wtf gr8080

xpost loved the documentary. was very moved at the end, not by them reuniting, but how despite the bickering and in-fighting, when Phife was going into surgery, how Tip sent him that text telling him to stay positive.

it's funny how Phife and Tip kinda both come off as assholes but then you're rooting for them to pull through

lol'd @ montage of Phife's sports trivia

i liked that bit. it was funny cuz when I saw them in 2006 (not Rock the Bells, but that weird tour they did promoting ESPN 2K series basketball) he had on a Florida Gators sweater.

christ the documentary film is the best music doc i've seen since No Direction Home; totally wasn't expecting it. the ending was like the film about Anvil!

legit wet eyes when Q-Tip consents to tour for the sake of Phife's illness.

such a great movie SUCH a great movie. wish it was longer.

Peoples Instinctive continues to get overlooked. A song and beat like Luck Of Lucian had never been heard before. That blew peoples minds. For me it was their most groundbreaking, free and creative album.

god you're tiresome

why would he ever cut into his established brand by saying anything other than "the early shit is the best real hip hop authenticity omg yah mate"?

For me it was their most groundbreaking, free and creative album.

I'm pretty sure the label charged for the album.

gangsta Andy Partridge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RT

but intriguing you enough to follow me about with posts as tiresome as that, may I add for you.

A song and beat like Luck Of Lucian had never been heard before. That blew peoples minds.

this is just dumbass revisionism, People's was the last of the first wave of Native Tongues releases to come out and while yeah it's great (I was just listening to it this morning tbh) it's also the weakest imo

lol "follow you around"

I revived this thread four months ago, who's following who

er a year ago

by MM Tip and Ali had already converted to Islam and been putting the squeeze on Phife to convert or continue to be ostrasized from the group. He never did, end of group. But maybe that gave MM what makes it great in the end. But the debut was their most creative, I think.

they stayed together for 5 years after MM

this is just dumbass revisionism,

Ha. Ok.

they stayed together for 5 years after MM

You really know your stuff. Great facts and everything.

yr welcome

the main drag on People's is Phife, unfortunately - a bunch of his verses are just really half-assed. It was kind of a miracle to hear him improve so much for Low End Theory.

Peoples... is one of my favourite Tribe albums, but all five are great to me. I also really love the remix album from around that era.

- Thread titled asking for your fav atcq album

-Reply with my answer and reason

-Receive hate and a "bullshit dumbass revisionism" response

-Sometimes I look up at the stars and analyse the sky and I ask myself if I'm meant to be here, why.

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the wages of sin, you miserable limey shitlord, the wages of sin

The furious taylor swift fan club is forming in my wake once more

taylor who?

lolllll try again

I don't know why some vulgar ςὖnτ who in recent posting history has been an apologist for Morrissey's blatant racism and professed to be a liker of Russell Brand and constantly seems to be hunting for a hattrick of fucking gormless, idiotic posts would feel like he is qualified to descend onto a ATCQ thread to question another posters' tastes/opinions. Tssk Fuck Off!

fish gotta swim, desperate trollsocks gotta troll

pardon?

not dissing, i support the fuck-off message, merely proffering an explanation of the awful habits of the Shittalkius Racconukius

lol xelab I know you have a hatred hard-on for me but I did not say I like Russell Brand I said he seemed "relatively harmless" since I, like most Americans, do not give two fucks about him or really any of your charming island's hysterically internecine political posturing cheerio old bean

willing to wager I have been listening to ATCQ longer than you've been out of the crib

*slowly backs TF out of here* oh jeez

lol

fwiw I literally never saw xelab on any threads I frequent until I popped into this one Morrissey thread once and ever since he follows me around hurling epithets it's weird. but keep raging brave little britishman! it's adorable

Lol! you are so fucking inane you presume you are the only one born in the 70's, what a fucking tool!

well all I have to go on are your childish tantrums, do forgive me guv'nor

What as opposed to your honeyed classicism?

You are one of the biggest piles of wank on here so act accordingly!

morrissey sucks (some of smiths music is fine but beyond that, barf at his personality)

russell brand sucks

tribe rules

i feel like thats a reasonable way to quash dis

works for me

shakey always reminds me of hank kingsley in that episode of larry sanders where hank thinks its really funny to make fun of the new musical director's englishness. i keep expecting him to type "stick it up your jolly old rectum!" it's pathetic and amusing how witty he seems to think it is.

I'm needling an idiot, not doing a comedy routine

could you assholes shut the fuck up and confine this discussion to Tribe

my friend dated lucian when she was like 14

he was lucky

also i knew this other girl who dated q-tip much later and claimed that he was bi and fucked leo dicaprio, cant really vouch for the veracity of that one tho

I've wondered about Q for years. He's still cute as fuck.

yeah its really the leo part that makes it suspiciously fabulous, i mean i wld like it to be true, its a good story

Tribe's homophobic outtake possibly evidence refuting that story...

http://sampleface.co.uk/a-tribe-called-quest-ft-brand-nubian-georgie-porgie/

Homophobic outtakes adduce that story!

classic over compensation case close

also did you notice how emotionally open all of them were in that documentary

obvious fags

Lol

straight mans dont deal in that baloney!

Paul simon alt take "obvious fags"

I can't understand why Tip would roll over for Scrunchy Face and not for, say, me.

man theres still time

I gotta get it
I got got to get it

Phife was meant to be playing in Manchester this weekend but it got canned for some reason. good to see he's touring again at least.

Personal top

1- People's instinctive
2- M.M
3- Beats Rhymes
4- Low End
5- Love

Other than the few classic Low End tracks I've always preferred BR&L over Low End even for all the bullshit and bad stuff that obviously surrounds it, and not ignoring the fact that the album was a disappointment, and all the other stuff that was wrong with it (consequence).

But Dilla's production on Beats Rhymes and Life was so damn NICE. The togetherness of the group was shot but it didn't imo make it a bad album.

People's instinctive as 1 because it is their best beats wise to me, Low End was a bit of a down turn in creativity in many ways. MM brought it back up.

ha

Interesting in the doc they said they felt maybe Low End wasn't creative or weird enough compared to debut during recording, but then people loved it more than the first. RIP chris lighty. Only thing missing out the doc as far i could tell was omission of Qtip conversion to Islam around time of MM release. From an interview on Rap City I remember from the time, that whole thing seemed to cause a big schism with Phife, not wanting to convert, and Tip being his insensitive, pushy self on the whole situation with Phife. Tip didn't come off so well in the doc but probably a lot better than reality. Not that he's bad, just aloof and controlling, but at the same time he's genuine in being all about the group and each other, yet also selfish and insensitive. I think that's why that doc is so interesting to watch, even for non-fans, the nonmonochromatic personalities of people and relationships that in this case both made the group so great but also meant it was impossible for it to last.

everything prob wldve gone smoother if they had a more accurate name like q-tip featuring phife

HIP HOP FACTS ‏@OnlyHipHopFacts 50m50 minutes ago
On this day in 1993, A Tribe Called Quest released their third album Midnight Marauders.

Nah, these are the best albums.

We Got It from Here… really is very durable. Might even be my most played 'new' album of recent years.

to me, midnight marauders feels so much better than the low end theory...but i guess i wasn't there at the time

kinda agree w Alfred's rankings - the comeback album is a stunning achievement, I can't think of any other act that pulled off something like that

a lot of comeback albums are good but they're sort of pushed into a more elevated classic album position just because the quality is surprising vs other comebacks, but WGIFH is the genuine article.

can't think of a better one

agreed (yet I still find myself skipping some tracks, which I don't do with Low End or MM really)

yeah it's great but not better than MM

As much as I love WGIFH…, the usual consensus still stands imho.

kinda agree w Alfred's rankings - the comeback album is a stunning achievement, I can't think of any other act that pulled off something like that

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, January 22, 2019 10:44 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a lot of comeback albums are good but they're sort of pushed into a more elevated classic album position just because the quality is surprising vs other comebacks, but WGIFH is the genuine article.

― omar little, Tuesday, January 22, 2019 11:04 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Mission of Burma is the closest

“Bonita Applebum” presages nothing except perhaps a Brand Nubian track.

I don't get this? is there a BN track that flips that sample?

I still think BR&L is underrated, mostly cos I guess I'm one of two people on this board who stan for Consequence, but yeah, it's a much darker piece. "Stressed Out" is a heavy jam though.

I feel like maybe Marauders is the easier gateway if you didn't listen to these sequentially when they came out (as I didn't), but Low End Theory just has way more quotables to me, not to mention the jazz fusion is better and those bass lines, ka-damn.

but....that's no knock on Marauders, which is just consistent start to finish. like Alfred said upthread, "Steve Biko" is my fav from MM - actually heard it blasting out of someone's car in the parking lot of a Pizzeria Uno once, knew who it was (cos I knew Phife from Shaq's albums lol), and next day bought Low End Theory (I had no idea which one Biko was on, so I just bought at random).

man, the one time I saw them live, shoulda seen the place go nuts when they launched right into "Buggin' Out", first song.

otm on all fronts, i reckon-

br+l is severely underrated, mm is overrated (but still v classic), and let cannot be topped.

rad you got to see them!

yeah, I about flipped when I saw the announcement and think I bought tix the second they went on sale.

And now theur last album competes.

i need to spend more time with it. absolutely loved the few listens I had, but had a series of concerts around that time so spent most of that month listening to those bands back to back.

imo what people on this thread keep bringing up about low end theory is it's weakness. sure you can "put on LET and just zone from beginning to end" (as deej put it) but that's because it all sounds like one song. by about halfway through i always feel like i'm being suffocated by walking upright bass lines

iirc i voted for midnight marauders but also prefer people's instinctive travels to low end theory. it's not as consistently good as mm imo but it's got all of my favorite tribe tracks ("footprints", "after hours", "rhythm")

award tour!

I skip around so damn much with People's.

i'd rank their catalogue as follows:

1. low end theory
2. beats, rhymes, + life
3. people's instinctive travels and the paths of rhythm
4. midnight marauders
5. we got it from here
6. the love movement

that said, they're all 5 mics, except the last two (which are still stupidly consistent).

xp "electric relaxtion" is probably my favorite from mm but that whole stretch from "award tour" through "oh my god" is incredible

yep

and I never hear anyone praise "The Chase Pt. II."

The Low End Theory
Midnight Marauders
We Got It From Here
Beats
People's Instinctive
The Love Movement

Midnight Marauders was the first one I bought, and the one I've listened to the most, and I still think about lines from it almost every day, so it's impossible for me not to think of it as the best

I love LES as an of a piece LP, but MM has some strong standalone cuts.

(Then there’s the rest.)

I’m only really familiar with LET and MM. prefer the former by a long shot. I also saw them live on the MM tour

"scenario">>>>>>>anything on midnight marauders

People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm deserved more than six votes.

LET
People's
MM
Thank U 4 Yr Service
Beats Rhymes
The Love Movement

They're all at least solid, the top 4 full of genius and brilliance, the bottom two still swimming in substance and joy. That remix album that followed People's was fab as well.

I do love People's so much, miss the boho black hippie vibes they evolved away from

I might be chalopping here but I might be We Got it From Here over MM

I got no beef with anyone claiming the last album's their best.

The Love Movement could indeed be their least great LP, but I prefer "Find a Way" to nearly all their singles

That single's a candidate for the Worst Album With One of the Act's Greatest Songs thread.

Have always loved 4 Moms off The Love Movement.

that's the thing with love movement- it's very hit and miss, but the highlights hang *easily* with their best material. it was a controp for many years (at least in hiphop circles) to even concede that "find a way" was a solid jam. moral of the story: alfred otm, snobbery is stupid.

That remix album that followed People's was fab as well.

― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Wednesday, January 4, 2023 3:44 AM

otm some of thise fucken mixes are just...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8cbzERFuBo

...god DAMN!

I mean that one's fab, but seguing Carly Simon's Why into the Why Remix of Bonita has been my "blow minds at various mid-life get-togethers with friends that I'm DJing at" secret weapon for at least a decade or so now. Tore the roof off my partner's 40th, our best friend's 40th, our civil partnership late last year...

😃

“Riding on the train with no dough…sucks”

I put LET on in the car when I went to pick up dad from his swallow study, and mom started dancing in the car to "Show Business"

It’s probably my favorite album to walk around or take the subway with. Definitely gives me some swagger. “I never half step cause I’m not a half stepper…”

Industry rule number four thousand and eighty
Record company people are shadyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTJsgb9jqfZ/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Q TIP 4 EVA

He’s always been so effortlessly cool