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Okay, here we go.

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78 ballots received (64 received last year)
One tie
47 of our top 50 placed somewhere on the P&J
28 of our top 50 placed somewhere on the p4k top 100

thanks to everyone who participated this year. cross your fingers and let's hope that this goes smoothly!

miss precious perfect (musically), Monday, 2 February 2009 17:53 (sixteen years ago)

50 - Flo Rida - Low
69.5 points, 7 votes
100 in P&J

Thoughts?

miss precious perfect (musically), Monday, 2 February 2009 17:54 (sixteen years ago)

btw I am very happy that the 50th place track got 7 votes. IIRC for the 2006 poll the 50th place only received 2 votes.

miss precious perfect (musically), Monday, 2 February 2009 17:55 (sixteen years ago)

it begins

k3vin k., Monday, 2 February 2009 17:56 (sixteen years ago)

The one time I have fogiven Flo Rida his name.

Gukbe, Monday, 2 February 2009 18:04 (sixteen years ago)

good title, good start

lex pretend, Monday, 2 February 2009 18:09 (sixteen years ago)

i already wish i could totally redo my list, but it was ordered anyway so the ones i would cut i didnt give much weight to anyway

k3vin k., Monday, 2 February 2009 18:10 (sixteen years ago)

i forgot to do traxx tho

xp agree with lex on title

k3vin k., Monday, 2 February 2009 18:11 (sixteen years ago)

^high heresy!

(a mess0 (Ioannis), Monday, 2 February 2009 18:13 (sixteen years ago)

i like "low" fine, but i was already sick of it at the beginning of '08, nevermind the end.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 2 February 2009 18:17 (sixteen years ago)

musically, you are a wonder for this. shame I gave up on the rap one, but the autogoons didn't want it in the first place.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 2 February 2009 18:25 (sixteen years ago)

yeah I can imagine that for more niche polls that getting enough participation to make it worthwhile might be difficult.

miss precious perfect (musically), Monday, 2 February 2009 18:51 (sixteen years ago)

one of my least fav t-pain productions ever - flo-rida's voice is crazy annoying and the flow he locks into is so ugh

jordy (J0rdan S.), Monday, 2 February 2009 19:59 (sixteen years ago)

^^this

k3vin k., Monday, 2 February 2009 20:00 (sixteen years ago)

i don't think T-Pain produced that one, but yeah, not one of my favorite hits of his, although I liked it a bit at first.

some dude, Monday, 2 February 2009 20:17 (sixteen years ago)

yeah you're right, but i meant least favorite songs involving t-pain anyway. beat and stuff is actually aaaight

jordy (J0rdan S.), Monday, 2 February 2009 20:19 (sixteen years ago)

I liked it enough to give it a vote. It's got an excellent intro, leaping all over the place thanks to my fancy new speakers. I can see what might be annoying about the delivery, but still a cracking pop tune nonetheless

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 February 2009 20:26 (sixteen years ago)

i like "low" fine, but i was already sick of it at the beginning of '08, nevermind the end.

― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 2 February 2009 18:17 (2 hours ago) Permalink

otm

The Reverend (rev), Monday, 2 February 2009 20:27 (sixteen years ago)

49 - Air France - No Excuses
70 points, 5 votes, 1 #1 vote
1210 in P&J

No Excuses is just about the fizziest, trembliest, most joyful thing I've heard, smeary piano and cascading string riffs swirling around like ambient happy hardcore. ― Tim F

Thoughts?

miss precious perfect (musically), Monday, 2 February 2009 20:36 (sixteen years ago)

obsessed with this song

jordy (J0rdan S.), Monday, 2 February 2009 20:37 (sixteen years ago)

Something I'll have to listen to when I get home

The Reverend (rev), Monday, 2 February 2009 20:40 (sixteen years ago)

Less than forty seconds in, and already I wish I'd heard it in time

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 February 2009 20:49 (sixteen years ago)

yeah for some reason when i first heard that air france ep i didnt get into that much but just recently i've had it continuously on repeat. soooo nice

t_g, Monday, 2 February 2009 20:52 (sixteen years ago)

Less than forty seconds in, and already I wish I'd heard it in time

― Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 February 2009 20:49 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

otm.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 2 February 2009 20:54 (sixteen years ago)

thirded! how did i miss this?

Gukbe, Monday, 2 February 2009 20:56 (sixteen years ago)

Seriously, what a fabulous record. The section from 0:20 onwards is just euphoric. I'm playing it over and over in the dark in the depths of winter, with a beautiful warm feeling and a big summery grin on my face.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 February 2009 21:01 (sixteen years ago)

maybe i should go back to the air france ep but i was really hyped about hearing it at the time, and just didn't feel it in the slightest :(

lex pretend, Monday, 2 February 2009 21:02 (sixteen years ago)

That song would be better without the vocal bit, which is kinda bland and the tune doesn't really need it.

Tuomas, Monday, 2 February 2009 21:04 (sixteen years ago)

But quite nice otherwise.

Tuomas, Monday, 2 February 2009 21:05 (sixteen years ago)

just gave that EP another listen the other night, if I'd spent more time with it it would have placed in my list.

sleeve, Monday, 2 February 2009 21:09 (sixteen years ago)

btw thanks for all your work Musically

sleeve, Monday, 2 February 2009 21:09 (sixteen years ago)

The mood here (especially video, but also the music) reminds me a bit of 'Star Guitar' by the Chemical Brothers. The Chemicals' video is something else, but 'No Excuses' is by far the better tune

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 February 2009 21:53 (sixteen years ago)

48 - Kleerup Feat. Lykke Li - Until We Bleed
73.5 points, 7 votes
(3 votes, 29.5 points for Mikael's Cello Version)

cello version

miss precious perfect (musically), Monday, 2 February 2009 22:02 (sixteen years ago)

49 - Air France - No Excuses

^would have voted for this if i did traxx. glad to see it place, my fav song of theirs

k3vin k., Monday, 2 February 2009 22:13 (sixteen years ago)

No.48's pleasant enough (both versions), if a little dull. I just don't like that kind of treatment on the vocal either, singers should put themselves out there properly

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 February 2009 22:23 (sixteen years ago)

until we bleed raised my expectations too high for the lykke li album.

Gukbe, Monday, 2 February 2009 22:44 (sixteen years ago)

47 - Kelley Polar - Entropy Reigns (In The Celestial City)
74 points, 7 votes
739 in P&J, 43 in p4k

i like the vocals on 'Entropy' with the duet dynamic (a bit Human League perhaps), and the "heroin, cocaaaine" line keeps getting stuck in my head
―blueski

miss precious perfect (musically), Monday, 2 February 2009 23:02 (sixteen years ago)

I like this, but I like "Roseband" a bit better.

Maciej (maciej recognizing trill), Monday, 2 February 2009 23:12 (sixteen years ago)

I agree. Also, I would have voted for 3 A.M. from the Kleerup album if it had been option. Why I didn't nominate is beyond me.

Gukbe, Monday, 2 February 2009 23:14 (sixteen years ago)

46 - The Bug - Poison Dart feat. Warrior Queen
75.5 points, 7 votes
89 in P&J, 80 in p4k

Poison Dart - video of the decade. So menacing and amusing at the same time. So those pounding machines are he gets the devastating bass hits? Might be song of the decade too.
― bendy

miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 00:03 (sixteen years ago)

A+ last two tracks, big ups!

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 00:05 (sixteen years ago)

i stupidly left "poison dart" off my p&j list, so i was glad i got to vote for it here. (don't quite love that album like some do, but i do love that track.)

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 00:15 (sixteen years ago)

"Poison Dart" isn't even the better Ivy Queen track

Robo-Tony! Robo-Toni! Robo-Toné! (The Reverend), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 00:21 (sixteen years ago)

err Warrior Queen

Robo-Tony! Robo-Toni! Robo-Toné! (The Reverend), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 00:21 (sixteen years ago)

45 - Katy Perry - Hot N Cold
76 points, 7 votes
38 in P&J

Ten weeks on now, and this'll probably be up the business end of the charts for a little while yet. Heard it out last night, and the distinctly less-than-subtle boshing suggests it'll be a fixture on the mobile discos for some time to come.
-William Bloody Swygart

Hot N Cold has probably the best chorus I've heard this year.
― Matt Armstrong

miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:12 (sixteen years ago)

i hate how the chorus of that never takes off and i suspect it's cuz she can't really sing. i can remember the chorus even tho i've avoided it which i think says something but it's a very unsatisfying song imo

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:16 (sixteen years ago)

first dud for me. my flatmate swears by it, but i got tired of it really fast. perhaps i was so disturbed by the bigotry of her previous singles that i've become a katie perry bigot myself. ooh, what a tangled web...

Gukbe, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:19 (sixteen years ago)

damn I placed Entropy Reigns much higher, like top 5.

sleeve, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:22 (sixteen years ago)

it was my number 4.

tricky, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:26 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, katy perry = dud, but hot n cold = classic

miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:29 (sixteen years ago)

yeah it took me a few times of stumbling across it for me to warm to "hot n cold," mostly i think because it had to get past my automatic katy perry deflectors. but it won me over.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:34 (sixteen years ago)

same here but i also suspect that hot n cold is the kind of song that i might enjoy no matter who sang it - there's nothing in her particular performance that sells it either way.

Disco/Very (Roz), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:59 (sixteen years ago)

44 - Crazy Cousinz - Bongo Jam
77 points, 6 votes
567 in P&J

bongo jam' is the kind of song which is perfect both for dancing to after an all night rooftop party as the sun rises, and for giving you some ~positive vibes~ as you stroll to work. SOMETIMES I WAKE UP EARLY IN THE MORNING TO PLAY MY CON-CON-CONGO
― lex pretend

miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 02:02 (sixteen years ago)

w00t, too bad the version in that video is mad wack

Robo-Tony! Robo-Toni! Robo-Toné! (The Reverend), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 02:16 (sixteen years ago)

77 points

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 02:17 (sixteen years ago)

that's the only version of that song on youtube, if there's embeddable video from somewhere else i'll post it.

miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 02:29 (sixteen years ago)

also, teaser: the next track had the lowest average score. cue zings

miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 02:30 (sixteen years ago)

back to "hot n cold", i dislike it because - even for a pop tune aimed at 12 year olds - it's so stiff and brittle, whereas great dance music is often... fluid. "hot n cold" doesn't really move, and i don't see how anyone could really move to it

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 02:41 (sixteen years ago)

I'm a sucker for all those cookie cutter Dr. Luke tracks so I'm good with "Hot N Cold," although it mostly just reminds me of that Paris Hilton single that had a much better lighter groove with the same kind of melody.

some dude, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 02:58 (sixteen years ago)

Oooooh results thread yeah!!! The equivalent thread last year introduced me to a lot of neato stuff...nothing I know yet (I've heard "Hot n Cold" maybe once?) so I'm stoked.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 03:00 (sixteen years ago)

back to "hot n cold", i dislike it because - even for a pop tune aimed at 12 year olds - it's so stiff and brittle, whereas great dance music is often... fluid. "hot n cold" doesn't really move, and i don't see how anyone could really move to it

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― your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Monday, February 2, 2009 6:41 PM Bookmark

This is my problem with 90% of the pop-qua-pop out right now. They all seem to crib house beats, but don't throw in any of the syncopated elements present in most house, so the songs just thod-plunk-thod-plunk along in a really blocky, boring way.

Robo-Tony! Robo-Toni! Robo-Toné! (The Reverend), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 03:04 (sixteen years ago)

Listening to "Low" right now - not bad but I'm not sure I'd go out of my way to hear it again despite some good moments ("like a pornography POSter") - I hate to invoke this trope but it's kind of a "heard all these tricks before" listen for me.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 03:07 (sixteen years ago)

also listened to "poison dart" before that and apparently already forgot about it by the time I wrote the post. Which sounds like a slam but it's just the honest report. Didn't make a huge impression on me - I haven't read any of the Bug related threads, not sure what I was expecting...people love that album, what's the bullet-point argument for this person/group?

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 03:10 (sixteen years ago)

xp: Naw, that's basically what it is. It's basically one of those songs that takes a few disparate things happening in its genre ("This Is Why I'm Hot" bleeps, post-crunk beats, T-Pain Hooks) and fuses them together, so the "all these tricks before" feeling is justified. Thing is, when done right, that sort of thing can be totally sui generis (cf: "Lollipop", which pulled a neat trick of pinching the double-time "This Is Why I'm Hot" beeps from "Low", but slowing the beat back down to the original half-tempo), but in this case is just kind of hackish.

Robo-Tony! Robo-Toni! Robo-Toné! (The Reverend), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 03:13 (sixteen years ago)

43 - MGMT - Kids
82 points, 9 votes
56 in P&J

miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 03:15 (sixteen years ago)

The bullet-points will make it sound boring, but The Bug album basically = mammoth pissed-off industrial dancehall. Try "Skeng on for size.

Robo-Tony! Robo-Toni! Robo-Toné! (The Reverend), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 03:16 (sixteen years ago)

Kids an average score of 9.11, the lowest in the top 50. Incidentally, the track with the highest average is a couple down.

miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 03:19 (sixteen years ago)

MGMT have great singles!

so stoked about this poll, too bad there won't be a rap one this year...

Bee OK, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 03:58 (sixteen years ago)

42 - TV On The Radio - Family Tree
83 points, 6 votes
118 in P&J

miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 04:06 (sixteen years ago)

family tree is pretty stunning...i can't really get past "family tree". i dont really even know what the lyrics mean but they kill me anyhow. easily the most beautiful song they've written, esp when the drums come in.
― J0rdan S

miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 04:08 (sixteen years ago)

i am hoping that at least one aeroplane remix ends up on here. i have fears of vote-splitting though.

tricky, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 04:25 (sixteen years ago)

i combined remixes with the originals so as long as the remix and the original got at least one vote, the points would be pooled together. so there shouldn't be any vote splitting. see #48.

miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 04:30 (sixteen years ago)

sorry i should've been more specific. i meant vote-splitting amongst all of the remixes that were nominated because i think there were at least four and i had to force myself to pick only one.

that mgmt song is great.

tricky, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 04:43 (sixteen years ago)

Flo Rida is the only one I've heard so far. Keep 'em coming!

every little thing she says is custos (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 04:45 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i had never really listened to MGMT mostly because my taste doesnt match up w/ the kind of ppl who usually stunt for them (not here just in gen.) but i v much enjoyed that tune

k3vin k., Tuesday, 3 February 2009 04:51 (sixteen years ago)

they're a good singles band. shit live tho.

Disco/Very (Roz), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 04:59 (sixteen years ago)

okay, last one for tonight. this next track had the highest average score, 16.7.

miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 05:01 (sixteen years ago)

41 - T.I. - No Matter What
83.5 points, 5 votes, 1 #1 vote
127 in P&J, 27 in p4k

no matter what is total hall-of-fame stuff
-tipsy mothra

miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 05:02 (sixteen years ago)

interesting, i like that song but really didn't feel compelled to make room for it on my ilx ballot.

some dude, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 05:06 (sixteen years ago)

Same here.

Robo-Tony! Robo-Toni! Robo-Toné! (The Reverend), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 05:10 (sixteen years ago)

anyway, some teasers for #40:

-it had the same number of points as "No Matter What"
-it did not appear on P&J or p4k's list

miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 05:11 (sixteen years ago)

yeah im with you guys - i liked it immediately but it never really held me

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 06:10 (sixteen years ago)

family tree is incredible, dunno if i voted for it tho

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 06:12 (sixteen years ago)

still think it was the best song t.i. released last year. it's an ATL "freebird," lighters-in-the-air sort of thing. plus he seems like somewhat less of a dickhead than on a lot of other songs on the album.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 06:14 (sixteen years ago)

production is def great but idk that song always felt like it was 7 mins long to me

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 06:15 (sixteen years ago)

so's "freebird". (well, 9 mins. and t.i.'s is only 5 mins, really. but it does have that kinda epic sweep.)

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 06:18 (sixteen years ago)

i like 'no matter what' but if i voted for a t.i. track from last year - and i can't remember whether i did or not - it would've been 'let my beat pound' by a million miles.

also stop fronting, 'whatever you like' was easily the most fun t.i. single of 08. irresistible.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 08:55 (sixteen years ago)

whoop whoop for crazy cousinz btw - let's hope there's more uk funky to come.

mgmt are so boring i can't even h8.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 08:56 (sixteen years ago)

That Crazy Cousinz tune is dope, but for some weird reason it bothers me that the vocals say "to play my congo". Congo is a country, did you mean to say bongo or conga?

Btw, does anyone know if the "sometimes I wake up in the morning" male vocal bit is sampled from somewhere? The title of the tune says "featuring Calista", but I assumed Calista is the female vocalist on it...

Tuomas, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 10:27 (sixteen years ago)

i can't stand the katy perry, if only because it acts like it is a smarter piece of pop music, and yet she has to do this ridiculous breakdown to inform us she is singing about someone who's bi-polar. like, wow, really? the song would be perfectly fine without that, it's just like she feels she is singing for retards who wouldn't get it (hot OR cold? how could he be two? that's mental katy!).

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 10:30 (sixteen years ago)

"Bongo Jam" is my only track pick to surface thus far, although "Entropy Reigns..." came close.

Yes, Calista comes in later. She was a contestant on Big Brother's Celebrity Hijack on E4 in early 08, and a snatch of "Bongo Jam" was featured on her introductory VT.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 10:41 (sixteen years ago)

'Kids' is a strange one. I hate the intro melody when it's on its own (it's fine as part of the chorus and/or smothered in syths), the beat is the dullest thing ever and the two solos are just awful - but the whole has really grown on me. I'm a sucker for that kind of nostalgia I guess, especially with a nice understated melody

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 11:16 (sixteen years ago)

I had to go back and check where I'd put Family Tree on my list. High.

Kids < Time to Pretend

Kids > Everything else MGMT have done except Time to Pretend

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 11:20 (sixteen years ago)

I think "Electric Feel" is miles better than both of those (though no MGMT came close to my list).

Maciej (maciej recognizing trill), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 16:22 (sixteen years ago)

great day today, 2 of my top 3 are in the 30s.

miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 16:31 (sixteen years ago)

40 - Cassie - Official Girl
83.5 points, 6 votes, 2 #1 votes

Official Girl is a bit More Than A Woman, but way more concise, same feeling of lift though and maybe a little slinkier than the usual Cassie track.
― I know, right?

miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 16:31 (sixteen years ago)

That should have been way higher. It's so... streamlined, like it flies along with so little effort.

Happy to see Bongo Jam in there but I have a feeling the only funky house track that'll place any higher will be Do You Mind.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 16:36 (sixteen years ago)

I'd expected that MGMT song to place much higher as well but I'm happy it didn't.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 16:36 (sixteen years ago)

It might just be the youtube clip (it's the first time hearing it) but Official Girl sounds like it's been mixed incredibly badly? Does it actually sound like that? Because if there is a version where the drums sound crisp, and the voice blends better with the beat etc., I might be interested in hearing it again.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 16:37 (sixteen years ago)

Sad this isn't a little higher but yaaay all the same. Prolly my fav Danja production.

Maciej (maciej recognizing trill), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 16:39 (sixteen years ago)

xpost, yeah, I'd think hearing a non-YouTube version (one in which you can actually hear the bass) might help bring it all together for you.

Maciej (maciej recognizing trill), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 16:41 (sixteen years ago)

Prolly my fav Danja production.

Think it might be mine too.

This was my #1.

lou, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 16:50 (sixteen years ago)

prolly my least fav Danja production

n00bian princess (some dude), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 16:54 (sixteen years ago)

The Lil' Wayne-less version is so much better. Sucks that I can only find it on YouTube!

lou, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 16:55 (sixteen years ago)

It might just be the youtube clip (it's the first time hearing it) but Official Girl sounds like it's been mixed incredibly badly? Does it actually sound like that? Because if there is a version where the drums sound crisp, and the voice blends better with the beat etc., I might be interested in hearing it again.

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no, the beat really does suck.

n00bian princess (some dude), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:01 (sixteen years ago)

good good. i can never usually tell when it comes to youtube.

mother russia arsehaven good times (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:02 (sixteen years ago)

39 - Matias Aguayo – Minimal
84 points, 7 votes
(4 votes, 51.5 points for DJ Koze Maxi Version)
126 for DJ Koze Mix in P&J

DJ Koze Mix

miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:04 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, what's the big deal? sounds like by-the-numbers rnb with a lame-ass singer up top to me.

xp

(a mess0 (Ioannis), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:06 (sixteen years ago)

The beat definitely doesn't sound by-the-numbers to me. I think it's quite odd, starting with the way the kick drums throw the whole thing off-kilter. I mean, I know, "OMG syncopation, big deal", but I think Danja is doing something really fun here.

Again, hearing it not on YouTube helps immensely, I think, and completely agree with Lou about the Wayne-less version being much better.

Maciej (maciej recognizing trill), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:24 (sixteen years ago)

uh, the linearity of it is really cool. agree it would be nice to hear a version without lil wayne. i think the last guest rapper spot i really liked was jay-z in "umbrella" and it had more to do with his delivery than what he was actually saying.

tricky, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:25 (sixteen years ago)

yikes, I'm typing "I think" a lot this morning xpost

Maciej (maciej recognizing trill), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:26 (sixteen years ago)

no me hace pumpin pumpin pumpin

tricky, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:27 (sixteen years ago)

crap i hate it when you are watching a youtube clip in a thread and then you post and goodbye song

tricky, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:28 (sixteen years ago)

re: "Official Girl"- Basically Danja's little vocal bit makes me melt and it reminds me of (not as good but still) Aaliyah.

lou, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:29 (sixteen years ago)

i like "official girl" a lot because of its weightlessness and its urgency

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:34 (sixteen years ago)

Aaliyah as a pretty vacant stepford rnb singer?

(a mess0 (Ioannis), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:35 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, the "not as good" part is definitely because of the vocals. What sounds similar to me is the production--the "quite odd" beat Maciej described reminds me of how Timbaland arguably saved his weirder stuff for Aaliyah.

lou, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:42 (sixteen years ago)

intersting list guys

De Pussyclot Dolls (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:49 (sixteen years ago)

Aaliyah as a pretty vacant stepford rnb singer?

― (a mess0 (Ioannis), Tuesday, February 3, 2009 9:35 AM Bookmark

Yeah, basically. "Me & U" was awesome because Cassie & R-Les pushed the icy, vacant robot aspect as far as it could go (the amazing production didn't hurt), but everything she's done since has been kind of nonexistant.

The Reverend (rev), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:49 (sixteen years ago)

I don't know, I think Cassie does this sort of wistful sweetness thing ("Not With You," "Official Girl," "Kiss Me,") just as well as she does the detached ice-queen.

De Pussyclot Dolls (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:52 (sixteen years ago)

has she ever shown any personality, like, at all?

(a mess0 (Ioannis), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:56 (sixteen years ago)

tbf it's not exactly part of her job description

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 18:01 (sixteen years ago)

38 - Half Man Half Biscuit - National Shite Day
86 points, 6 votes, 1 #1 vote

Jesus, there is so much righteous anger in that vocal performance (and in the playing), awesome
― country matters

OK, after several listens, and some reflection, I've decided that the second verse of "National Shite Day" (the tale of Stringy Bob) is the best 90 seconds of music that will be released this year. The pathos. The damaged tragicomic humanity. The rest of the album's pretty fucking brilliant as well. They have this...infectious knack. Singalong. Fierce.
― Just got offed

miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 18:03 (sixteen years ago)

I think she's very sweet and likeable on "Is It You?", but I guess that depends on what qualifies as personality for you. xxpost.

Maciej (maciej recognizing trill), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 18:03 (sixteen years ago)

FUCK YES

entire poll redeemed ;)

america is the only _______ that _______ (country matters), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 18:08 (sixteen years ago)

my (country matters') quote was actually in reference to a different HMHB song, but it totally applies here too :)

america is the only _______ that _______ (country matters), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 18:10 (sixteen years ago)

weakest track yet. sorry, Louis.

(a mess0 (Ioannis), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 18:23 (sixteen years ago)

I was going to say that I thought house and techno were going to be virtually unrepresented this year but I'd forgotten about Minimal. Even if the original is better than the DJ Koze version.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 18:30 (sixteen years ago)

Dodgy live recording, Ioannis! The instruments are all wayyyy crisper and fiercer on the recorded version (or of you're actually at the gig).

Actually you can make out most of it, put it down to a lack of understanding of British culture :P

america is the only _______ that _______ (country matters), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 18:34 (sixteen years ago)

haha--that's probably very true.

(a mess0 (Ioannis), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 18:36 (sixteen years ago)

"Even if the original is better than the DJ Koze version."

^^ cosign.

tricky, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 18:57 (sixteen years ago)

I'd never heard that Kelley Polar song before (or indeed anything by him) and it's excellent. Thanks ILM.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 19:06 (sixteen years ago)

37 - Lil Wayne - Got Money (Ft. T-Pain)
90.5 points, 7 votes
120 in P&J

got money' is really underrated, sure the beat is pop-cheesy and you've got t-pain in the chorus AGAIN but weezy rides it pretty nimbly, something's constantly piquing your interest (handclaps, "i'm a great dane", umbrella riffing &c)
― lex pretend

miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 19:07 (sixteen years ago)

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3600/07c845c9c76cxb7.gif

miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 19:07 (sixteen years ago)

Ugh who the fuck put all those unwanted additional vocals over Bongo Jam? Rub.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 19:08 (sixteen years ago)

I like and voted for the Cassie track. It's the constantly overlapping vocals that do it for me, they keep you on your toes all the way through. The guest rap is pretty rubbish, agreed - much encouraged by the suggestion that there's a Wayne-less version somewhere.

I really like Minimal. What is it, Brazilian?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 19:23 (sixteen years ago)

Chilean.

Wayne-less O.G.:

lou, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 19:28 (sixteen years ago)

hey re: official girl, the wayneless version is indeed far superior, and yeah the youtube is super poorly mixed-sounding and makes it sound way too cluttered. besides the great hook what i like about the song is how clean it all sounds; the production makes it super spacious and for me enhances the sentiment the song's trying to get across...it strikes me as really innocent and sincere and good-willed.

k3vin k., Tuesday, 3 February 2009 19:39 (sixteen years ago)

Thanks. It did occur to me that the vocal arrangement might be a way of covering up the weak singing that I'm always hearing about. It's great anyway, I can't think of another track that does so many different things with its vocals

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 19:47 (sixteen years ago)

enjoyed the screamer in the lil wayne video

caek, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 20:03 (sixteen years ago)

36 - Ting Tings, The - That's Not My Name
91.5 points, 8 votes
28 in P&J

Don't fancy the girl at all but I think "That's Not My Name" is a really fun song - heard it at a club a few weeks ago at just the right time in my personal dance buzz and it really nailed me somehow. Just got me all skittery. I like how they marshal all this production drama as the song goes on, even though there's absolutely no content to back it up - it really works, IMO.
― Doctor Casino

miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 20:05 (sixteen years ago)

haha i knew something was up when the video was for birdman's "100 million" instead of "got money"

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n00bian princess (some dude), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 20:07 (sixteen years ago)

i don't some songs on this list but i understand why people might be inclined to enjoy and vote for them. the ting tings - i just don't get it.

mother russia arsehaven good times (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 20:08 (sixteen years ago)

tings tings = transvision vamp '08

(i like that song)

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 20:08 (sixteen years ago)

I did give a couple of points to their other one, but I don't see the appeal of this at all either

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 20:19 (sixteen years ago)

i liked the dizzee rascal version

Gukbe, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 20:20 (sixteen years ago)

late on this but i like the dj koze version of "minimal" a LOT more than the original - and agreed that wayne's rap is the only thing i dislike about that cassie track (love the leadup to the, uh, 2nd chorus i guess? the halfway-buried "you gotta learn to love me")

charles bronson reilly (donna rouge), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 20:21 (sixteen years ago)

i like the ting tings' song partly because of a congenital weakness for sparse beats with sing-song girl vocals. (see also "milshake," lumidee, nina sky, m.i.a. -- not that this is as good as those, by a long shot, but i just have a sort of pavlovian response to that kind of thing.) and also like dr. casino says, i like the way it builds and gets all noisy in the final minute.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 20:46 (sixteen years ago)

35 - Rihanna - Disturbia
92 points, 9 votes
16 in P&J

miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:17 (sixteen years ago)

i cant believe that is not lower

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:18 (sixteen years ago)

that song & video stopped me from completely hating rihanna last year.

De Pussyclot Dolls (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:19 (sixteen years ago)

bum bum deedum

The Reverend (rev), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:20 (sixteen years ago)

song really grew on me

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:20 (sixteen years ago)

i can't believe it's not higher! top 5 me (i think).

(a mess0 (Ioannis), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:22 (sixteen years ago)

yeah thats what i mean by lower

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:22 (sixteen years ago)

yikes

n00bian princess (some dude), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:23 (sixteen years ago)

for me

xp

aha

(a mess0 (Ioannis), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:23 (sixteen years ago)

Probably my song of the year. My only wish is that Rihanna were more appealing as a pop star. I find her so boring and soulless. A personality transplant would suit her nicely.

miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:25 (sixteen years ago)

"Disturbia" is one of those songs that you can tell is trying so hard not to be boring, but yet....is.

The Reverend (rev), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:25 (sixteen years ago)

the video is what really got me into this song. i still dont really 'get' rihanna and i think she's still way too distant sometimes, but whatever i love her songs

xxp musically!

k3vin k., Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:26 (sixteen years ago)

truth bomb. belting out "BUM BUD DA DEE DUM" is the only fun i've been able to have with it.

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n00bian princess (some dude), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:26 (sixteen years ago)

it's like a first draft for 'Just Dance'. This is alright, but there's something else there in the Lady Gaga tune to elevate it

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:33 (sixteen years ago)

"Disturbia" is infinitely better than "Just Dance" by simple virtue of being done by Rihanna instead of Lady Gaga.

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:35 (sixteen years ago)

I knew the Ting Tings would be in here somewhere but thank god we got them out of the way relatively early.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:57 (sixteen years ago)

yeah they suck

De Pussyclot Dolls (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:58 (sixteen years ago)

34 - Lil Wayne feat. Static Major - Lollipop
94 points, 8 votes
31 in P&J

lollipop completely blew away my expectations for this album...it's fucking epic.
― Preview of the Matrix 12

miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 22:00 (sixteen years ago)

I really love the way Weezy's verse on Official Girl starts, by the way, it's like he just throws himself into the momentum of the track. Admittedly it loses that momentum pretty quickly but I'm glad he's on there.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 22:02 (sixteen years ago)

(Also, Wearing My Rolex is going to finish above A Milli on this poll, I'm calling it)

Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 22:03 (sixteen years ago)

"lolli lolli" >>>> "lollipop"

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 22:03 (sixteen years ago)

i hope it does matt

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 22:04 (sixteen years ago)

i think "lollipop" is gonna sound great in like 10 years

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 22:05 (sixteen years ago)

Does Lollipop sample "Reflections" by the Supremes? I've always thought so.

Lolli Lolli is a jam too. Candy-themed rap songs are generally pretty great.

miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 22:08 (sixteen years ago)

Thought Cassie would rank higher (my number one), but I'm glad to see that it's generating discussion...

Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 22:18 (sixteen years ago)

'Lollipop's pretty good. I didn't think much of it when I first heard it and hadn't heard it since, so glad to get the opportunity to reappraise. Very nice low-end. I had forgotten all about him for some reason when it came to voting, or I'd've given 'Let The Beat Build' something

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 22:18 (sixteen years ago)

33 - Lindstrøm - The Long Way Home
97 points, 10 votes
(3 votes, 23 points for Prins Thomas Edit)
1561 in P&J

Prins Thomas Edit

miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 23:00 (sixteen years ago)

"Lolli Lolli" has to be one of the five worst songs to reach my ears this year.

Robo-Tony! Robo-Toni! Robo-Toné! (The Reverend), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 23:16 (sixteen years ago)

Does anybody know the first line of "Minimal"? I'm pretty sure the last word is "dance."

(unintelligible)
'Cause that music got no groove
Got no balls
No me hace pumpin' pumpin' pumpin'.

Porque yo quiero bailar
Con un ritmo mas nocturno
Mas profundo
Mas sensual
Basta ya de minimal

(No!) Es lo que bailo
(Hay!) Otras movidas
(Si!) Vas padelante
(Mas!) You gonna get.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 23:31 (sixteen years ago)

Lil Wayne sucks.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 23:31 (sixteen years ago)

controversial

the Nigga who killed reggaeton (The Reverend), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 23:33 (sixteen years ago)

how dare you

miss precious perfect (musically), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 23:36 (sixteen years ago)

- dunno why i'm still surprised at the amount of love 'lollipop' gets vis à vis a) wayne's output overall b) wayne's output in 2009 c) hip-hop in 2009, but it's definitely perplexing - i don't dislike it at all but c'mon, really?
- cosine those repping for the og 'minimal' above the missing-the-point koze rmx
- 'disturbia' is merely ok - rihanna never needs to be autotuned ever again but the lyrics are great & the hook is undeniable; lol @ dumb-dumb-de-dumb, dumb-dumb-de-dumb-dumb though, it's funny cuz it's true
- 'official girl' is INCREDIBLE, i expended maybe more words on cassie than any other artist in 2008, so no more here
- ting tings ughhhhh, how can you

lex pretend, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 01:37 (sixteen years ago)

I am merely loving how wondrously sore-thumb the HMHB song is and will continue to be in this poll

america is the only _______ that _______ (country matters), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 01:38 (sixteen years ago)

- dunno why i'm still surprised at the amount of love 'lollipop' gets vis à vis a) wayne's output overall b) wayne's output in 2009 c) hip-hop in 2009, but it's definitely perplexing - i don't dislike it at all but c'mon, really?

yeah word -- as a fan of plenty of autotune/ringtone singles, that's one that is just way too long and doesn't have much of a hook, don't hate it so much as i don't get it.

n00bian princess (some dude), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 01:40 (sixteen years ago)

oh yeah i forgot to slag off the HMHB song and what i assume was the bloc-voting borne out of terrible taste to get it here in the 1st place

xp

yeah it's just wayne jumping on a bandwagon in a really rote way - a good bandwagon but 'lollipop' has been done so many times, often better. and yeah god SO UNNECESSARILY LONG

lex pretend, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 01:41 (sixteen years ago)

if anything "Lollipop" really made me go back and appreciate "Sensual Seduction" a lot more

n00bian princess (some dude), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 01:56 (sixteen years ago)

32 - Goldfrapp - A & E
98 points, 9 votes, 1 #1 vote
50 in P&J, 73 in p4k

miss precious perfect (musically), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 02:08 (sixteen years ago)

please everyone, hold your comments about goldfrapp!

miss precious perfect (musically), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 03:52 (sixteen years ago)

31 - Ne-Yo - Closer
98.5 points, 10 votes
25 in P&J

closer = R&B single of the year.
― titchyschneiderMk2

miss precious perfect (musically), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 03:53 (sixteen years ago)

Guess it would have made more sense to vote for this instead of "Single". I burnt out on it by the end of the year though.

lou, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 04:03 (sixteen years ago)

man you know i love you guys but thank god we are only on #31.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 04:05 (sixteen years ago)

damn, "closer" is a great song, but i'd definitely take "single" or "mad" over it. hope those two didnt suffer from vote-splitting. YOTG was my car soundtrack for the second part of the winter

k3vin k., Wednesday, 4 February 2009 04:14 (sixteen years ago)

Completely forgot to vote for "Mad", damn.

Maciej (maciej recognizing trill), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 04:16 (sixteen years ago)

anyway, that's it for today. don't have anything much to say about #30, but it's in Pitchfork's top 10. see you tomorrow.

miss precious perfect (musically), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 05:14 (sixteen years ago)

miss independent is the best of them all

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 07:00 (sixteen years ago)

'Put A Donk On It' isn't going to be in this list is it? Damn you HMHB crew for not putting your comedy block vote to better use.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 09:39 (sixteen years ago)

I was waiting for the Enigma remix - 'Put A Monk On It'

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 09:44 (sixteen years ago)

if you like it then you shoulda put a donk on it

Conti Rice (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 09:46 (sixteen years ago)

donk was my #1 fyi

unaustralian (jabba hands), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 09:58 (sixteen years ago)

please everyone, hold your comments about goldfrapp!

Considering A&E kinda snuck on to the end of my tracks list, I'm delighted to see it get some love. I still can't make up my mind about Goldfrapp in general, but there's something about that last album -- or at least a couple of tracks on it -- that really gets to me.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 11:08 (sixteen years ago)

I'd never heard that Kelley Polar song before (or indeed anything by him) and it's excellent. Thanks ILM.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 19:06 (Yesterday)

for real? i'm amazed you've managed to somehow avoid him all this time

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 11:44 (sixteen years ago)

I've just never bothered to seek any out and it's not exactly ubiquitous in day-to-day life.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 11:54 (sixteen years ago)

Apart from Me & U, Cassie's appeal for me at least is how she seems situated in the Venn intersection between fembot and teen-movie character. It reminds me of something Tim F said about Person Pitch on another thread, its less of a lack of depth, more a glistening variety of surfaces. Its an aesthetic that's all about surface and their impenetrability. Its a seductive mirage of a song, better without Wayne because its more compact, wonderfully free of spontaneity (replaced instead with the thrill of how everything just clicks together so satisfyingly). I'll admit I'm a sucker for really minimal pop music and so this is out the door, round the corner for me.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 13:50 (sixteen years ago)

I've just never bothered to seek any out and it's not exactly ubiquitous in day-to-day life.

― Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Wednesday, February 4, 2009 11:54 AM (1 hour ago)

I highly recommend you seek out his mental Italo cover of Magic Dance (from the Labyrinth OST) in Italian. Good way to get into him I think. Also really addictive.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 13:58 (sixteen years ago)

http://hypem.com/track/567577/Kelley+Polar-Magic+Dance

Plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 13:58 (sixteen years ago)

damn, "closer" is a great song, but i'd definitely take "single" or "mad" over it.

― k3vin k., Wednesday, February 4, 2009 4:14 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^yes, for sure.

nothing else on the kelley polar album grabbed me as much as 'entropy reigns'...it wasn't bad, but that song overshadows the rest somewhat.

i find it really weird that a lindstrom track placed. it seems to miss the point somewhat.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 14:02 (sixteen years ago)

this is awesome, thanks musically

rent, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 14:07 (sixteen years ago)

i will never understand what y'all see in "Mad."

n00bian princess (some dude), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 14:08 (sixteen years ago)

i will never understand how anyone could prefer anything else on YOTG to "Closer."

(a mess0 (Ioannis), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 14:55 (sixteen years ago)

oh, btw, Musically, you are a goddess amongst mere mortals here.

(a mess0 (Ioannis), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 14:56 (sixteen years ago)

first line of "minimal" is i think "these people don't dance, people don't dance" - at least that's how i've always heard it. and i don't care if the koze version "misses the point," i'd still rather listen to it than the og

charles bronson reilly (donna rouge), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:00 (sixteen years ago)

??? The Koze version bores the shit out of me, I love the original

Plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:04 (sixteen years ago)

The Koze version is good in a sort of fake Alan Braxe & Fred Falke way but the original has all that awesome percussion and swanee whistle noises and so forth, it's so much more kinetic.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:11 (sixteen years ago)

Kinda sounds like he's saying "clubber don't dance," especially the second time around.

lou, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:16 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, that's what I've always heard.

Maciej (maciej recognizing trill), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:44 (sixteen years ago)

all the lyrics for it I sing in my head are totally wrong: "scooby don't dance scooby don't dance, cos that music got no blues, got no balls only acid pumpin' pumpin' pumpin'"

Plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 17:00 (sixteen years ago)

thanks everyone for the kind words. glad to see people are enjoying this!

miss precious perfect (musically), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:13 (sixteen years ago)

30 - Deerhunter - Nothing Ever Happened
101.5 points, 10 votes
59 in P&J, 6 in p4k

miss precious perfect (musically), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:14 (sixteen years ago)

only song from that album that i really dug.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:16 (sixteen years ago)

29 - Gang Gang Dance - House Jam
102.5 points, 8 votes
195 in P&J, 24 in p4k

I'll be fucked if "House Jam" isn't the best song I heard all of last year.
-ilxor

miss precious perfect (musically), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:41 (sixteen years ago)

shit i must have missed the voting thread for this completely! i've been looking like once a week and never saw it

ciderpress, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 18:44 (sixteen years ago)

28 - Fleet Foxes - White Winter Hymnal
106 points, 8 votes
10 in P&J, 2 in p4k

A friend of mine pointed out how much this song sounds like something Ron Burgandy and friends might sing in three-part-harmony in an Anchorman scene. I already enjoyed the song but now I can't unsee Will Ferrell lip-syncing this, which made it even better in its surreal way.
-cunga

miss precious perfect (musically), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 19:10 (sixteen years ago)

i've been avoiding fleet foxes knowing that they'd bore me but i didn't think it would be that bad. it's just so... pointless and dull. i know i've listen to my share of boring indie music and if i'd heard that a couple years ago i might have loved it though.

sheeeeeeit foxes (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 19:14 (sixteen years ago)

"white winter hymnal" is really the song that justifies them

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 19:21 (sixteen years ago)

a chilling thought

n00bian princess (some dude), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 19:22 (sixteen years ago)

^imo

k3vin k., Wednesday, 4 February 2009 19:24 (sixteen years ago)

alex you might like the sheek louch remix

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 19:24 (sixteen years ago)

i agree it's their best song by a really wide margin but i really hate them. i can't even talk rationally about it really

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k3vin k., Wednesday, 4 February 2009 19:25 (sixteen years ago)

"really really really" etc *rolls eyes*

k3vin k., Wednesday, 4 February 2009 19:25 (sixteen years ago)

ya dude y u hate them so much - they are pretty inoffensive sonically and morally and there are plenty of other bands who're just as hyped as them

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 19:27 (sixteen years ago)

i think they have moral issues, claiming they'd never sign with a subsidiary with a major when they already have and all.

n00bian princess (some dude), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 19:33 (sixteen years ago)

yeah true but i chalk that up to "lol young naievety" more than anything

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 19:35 (sixteen years ago)

i think "inoffensive" is the problem, tbh. i'm still really young and this past year my tastes shifted significantly, and i think i'm going to look back on it and be really glad it happened. this band represents the bland indie rock that i've grown to loathe, especially when they're grouped with other, infinitely more talented artists in their 'genre', which gives those guys a bad name by comparison to non-indie bros. it's like, how am i supposed to convince people that of montreal are worth listening to when their ambition and talent is subverted and rejected in favor of this stuff in the media.
also, i tried listening to the album again about a month ago and it gave me this uncomfortable feeling, i have no idea what it was or why but i didnt like it and had to stop.

xposts

k3vin k., Wednesday, 4 February 2009 19:36 (sixteen years ago)

no he lied to the public, he should burn at the stake

xpost

n00bian princess (some dude), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 19:37 (sixteen years ago)

and yeah that major label thing didnt exactly endear them to me, though i wasnt too surprised and it was more eyerolly like j0rdan said rather than "ugh i hate u u r so dumb"

k3vin k., Wednesday, 4 February 2009 19:37 (sixteen years ago)

yeah j/k i don't give a fuc

n00bian princess (some dude), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 19:39 (sixteen years ago)

Will have to dig back through the vid links when I have time...

As for the Ting Tings, I guess I say it all in the blip up there... I can see why it wouldn't be some people's thing but it seems weirdly self-evident to me why it would be some other people's. I mean it is just stupidly rich with hooks: the main guitar thing, the "ame, ame, ame" bit, the way she pops back out to declare "They call me HELL," plus obviously "STAY-CEEEE" which is great. And yeah, the forest of stuff in the last minute. This is turning into Tom Ewing's review of "Sugar Sugar" sort of, but it's one of those kind of songs, two and a half minutes about nothing at all that just keeps layering it on higher and higher. I would put "Stand and Deliver" in this lineage as well. The Ting Tings are no Ants but it's a great single.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 19:45 (sixteen years ago)

idk kev, fleet foxes to me operate as "indie rock" only in the way that the term has shifted in this decade. they certainly aren't indie rock like deerhunter is indie rock or jay reatard is indie rock or even mgmt is indie rock. the album leaves me a little bit cold - but oftentimes so does much acoustic folk - but i certainly wouldn't call them bland. they are musically sparse and their ideas are immediately graspable. just because skeletal lamping has crazy musical shifts and lyrics about being a tranny doesn't make it any more or less "bland" - it's just an aesthetic choice. if anything i think their reliance on open spaces and vocal harmonies makes them quite interesting - and their music, in this day, almost daring - even if i think the songs sometimes fall flat.

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 19:46 (sixteen years ago)

i'm not sure i directly disagree with anything you just said, jordan, but i think my main problem with them is that they are so aesthetically driven rather than song-driven. that's the thing that pisses me off, actually, for me they're all style no substance. it's the same feeling i get for some "lol we're lo-fi!" band that cops the cool aesthetic technique of the moment but forgets to write songs. i can totally see why some people might like them, and the dudes have fine voices for sure, but it's just not something i'm able to engage with at all.

k3vin k., Wednesday, 4 February 2009 19:54 (sixteen years ago)

and yeah about skeletal lamping, that rec means more to me than any album in a long time, and the reason i like it is a lot more than the just zany structures (not that that's what you were implying, just saying). hopefully it'll place in the album poll; maybe i'll write musically a blurb.

k3vin k., Wednesday, 4 February 2009 19:56 (sixteen years ago)

but ANYWAY, sorry to hijack this guys, great job musically keep it coming :)

k3vin k., Wednesday, 4 February 2009 19:57 (sixteen years ago)

hey, that's why i am posting the results here and not on another website.

miss precious perfect (musically), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 20:02 (sixteen years ago)

for me they're all style no substance

i can totally see why some people might like them, and the dudes have fine voices for sure, but it's just not something i'm able to engage with at all.

i basically agree completely w/ u here, i'm just trying to get to the bottom of why - even though we seem to be on the same wavelength re their music - i find them "pleasant" and you find them completely detestable. also i wasn't breaking your <3 for skeletal lamping and your hate for FF down solely to the structure of the music, i just thought that you might be conflating the respective structures with blandness and non-blandness.

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 20:02 (sixteen years ago)

it's fine to dislike f. foxes (and i have the same issue with them that you do re: songwriting) but i don't think repping of montreal instead is some kind of paradigm shift.

or put another way, i think of montreal are incredibly boring but i don't tell everyone this whenever they are mentioned on a thread. ppl are pretty aware of your dislike of f. foxes, k3v. i'm not sure you want to be copping the lex's ILM posting style in this regard.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 20:02 (sixteen years ago)

27 - Alphabeat - Fascination
111 points, 7 votes, 2 #1 votes
52 in P&J, 47 in p4k

Is it wrong of me to love "Fascination"? Their schtick would annoy if the hooks weren't so strong. The way the chorus lifts into the "Wo-ah Wo-oh-ah" bit is pretty magical.
― Tim F

i just saw the Fascination video. hated it (and them) for the first 30 seconds but was completely won over by the end! the band's puppy-dog sincerity would make them very punchable if the music didn't follow-through with its complete lack of irony - pretty rare for such an obvious 80s throwback. the groove is undeniable and the build-up during the 'say the word' bit is absolutely glorious. great song!
― jabba hands

miss precious perfect (musically), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 20:03 (sixteen years ago)

to be fair lex has like 3 years of anti-indie trolling history, whereas kevin's hating of fleet foxes has occurred in like two threads over the course of a few months

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 20:03 (sixteen years ago)

The Fleet Foxes song reminds me most of the sixties revival bands that occasionally come out of Liverpool. It's a bit better than straight Merseybeat, I can hear that the folk, Appalachian, gospel or whatever influences are there, and there are some nice moments - but it's been done before, doesn't amount to more than the sum of its parts, and so is too close to pastiche to be worth my time (xp obviously)

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 20:06 (sixteen years ago)

xpost i feel like it's more than two threads but this is true--i guess i just don't get why one would use this message board to neg something more than like once or twice.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 20:07 (sixteen years ago)

"Fascination" should be much higher - BLISS BLISS BLISS.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 20:09 (sixteen years ago)

Fascination: agree with what Tim and jabba hands say. I really, really don't like those first thirty seconds - not one for simplified upbeat hooks, me - and I wish there was a bit more going on there. But it develops really nicely after that when it gets a bit more complicated. I was going to say that both 'Boyfriend' and '10,000 Nights' are far better, but on second thoughts that's probably just because they have much stronger starts. Good band.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 20:13 (sixteen years ago)

i've been meaning to listen to alphabeat for a while now. "fascination" is a fine, fine song

k3vin k., Wednesday, 4 February 2009 20:20 (sixteen years ago)

Gang Gang Dance I like. I really like the drums in the first half - lots of nice triplets and the percussion track interacts with the other strange elements really well. It brings to mind the Cassie track a little bit for that reason, the busyness of it. I'm most enjoying the laid-back dance tunes here. Not my usual sort of thing, so this poll is great news for me

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 20:25 (sixteen years ago)

It's only just struck me, but has anyone ever noticed the similarity between 'White Winter Hymnal' and certain passages of the Habanera from Carmen? (Check out this from about 1.23-ish in)

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 20:51 (sixteen years ago)

this has to have been said before, but alphabeat remind me of a more upbeat new pornographers. "fascination" in particular is reminiscent of "the bleeding heart show", though the former is much better imo

k3vin k., Wednesday, 4 February 2009 20:58 (sixteen years ago)

They're weirdo kids TV presenter types that's for sure. About as sexy as Steps.

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 21:05 (sixteen years ago)

Didn't know both 'Fascination' nor 'Until we bleed' before this thread, but love them both dearly already. Especially Fascination sounds like Katrina & The Waves warped into 2008 somehow. Nice!

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 21:05 (sixteen years ago)

26 - Ida Maria - Oh My God
116 points, 9 votes, 1 #1 vote
66 in P&J, 79 in p4k

miss precious perfect (musically), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 21:14 (sixteen years ago)

Well, #26 has broken the careometer, hasn't it?

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 21:52 (sixteen years ago)

it's a pretty great song

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 21:53 (sixteen years ago)

I rated "Oh My God" high on my ballot, having only just heard it for the first time a day or two before, thanks to the nomination thread. It remains headsticky and sharp, a great example of milking a ton of energy out of a limited premise and very few lyrics. The drummer deserves bonus credit here, although clearly the center of this thing is Ms. Maria, whose Nico von Bjork style is a kind of guaranteed win. Good song.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 21:55 (sixteen years ago)

I quite liked it too

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 21:56 (sixteen years ago)

The other stuff of hers I've checked out doesn't crackle as well, but "Oh My God" does set the bar kind of high...

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 21:59 (sixteen years ago)

Sorry to be negging everything in this thread, but "Fascination" is completely killed by it's flat, lifeless production. The tune and performance are fine, but sonically, it just seems....there. Something like that really needs to jump out of the speakers to be effective.

The Reverend (rev), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 22:03 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, the rest of the album is decent at best, but this song is a force of nature. xp

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 22:03 (sixteen years ago)

25 - Erykah Badu - The Healer
117 points, 9 votes, 1 #1 vote
110 in P&J

miss precious perfect (musically), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 22:07 (sixteen years ago)

;_; why didn't I vote

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 22:08 (sixteen years ago)

..."Fascination" is completely killed by it's flat, lifeless production...Something like that really needs to jump out of the speakers to be effective.

Have you only ever heard it via Youtube? Because it sounds amazing in my car.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 22:10 (sixteen years ago)

Rev - Huh - I think it's pretty punchy but I guess I sorta see what you mean. I could maybe live with the piano being a little louder, and the drums sometimes. But lots of things jump out of the speakers to me, mainly in the vocals! "WOAH OH WUH UH OH!"

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 22:10 (sixteen years ago)

And goddamn, the way the chorus roars back in after the whole "the word is on your lips" section - that right there is all I really ask of music from the Beatles to ABBA to this here. Flutters my heart, it does.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 22:12 (sixteen years ago)

The problem with that Ida Maria song is there's so little to it and her shtick is so limited that it goes from Oh My God (this is great!) to Oh My God (STFU) within about three minutes.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 22:13 (sixteen years ago)

I first heard it on mp3. xps

The Reverend (rev), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 22:13 (sixteen years ago)

I'm not sure it's something I would go for even if I didn't think the production was poor. A bit white-bread for my tastes. (n/sfj)

The Reverend (rev), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 22:15 (sixteen years ago)

I guess my problem with the production is that it sounds like everything is crammed into the mids, with no high or low end or space between instruments.

The Reverend (rev), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 22:17 (sixteen years ago)

"it sounds like everything is crammed into the mids, with no high or low end or space between instruments."

not that it should change your dislike, but I think this is not only true but very deliberate.

Tim F, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 22:18 (sixteen years ago)

"Fascination" feels like one of those songs which at first sound great, but pretty soon you forget about them. A lot of instant, ear-grabbing hooks, but it kinda lacks the sort of melodic and sonic sensibilities that make an evergreen pop song. A fun piece of fluff nevertheless.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:01 (sixteen years ago)

24 - Beyonce - Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It)
120.5 points, 12 votes
3 in P&J, 23 in p4k

Single Ladies will still be played years from now in chick-flick ads and at weddings to introduce the bouquet toss
-dmr

So Single Ladies is one of those singles that suddenly makes sense as being amazing aaages after it gets released I think.
―I know, right?

miss precious perfect (musically), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:01 (sixteen years ago)

wooooo erykah badu

tricky, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:02 (sixteen years ago)

Wow, 24? I thought for sure this would rank higher. Top 12 at least.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:03 (sixteen years ago)

hey musically once you stop for today can you post the results so far in list form?

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:03 (sixteen years ago)

single ladies is pretty divisive on ilm

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:03 (sixteen years ago)

I found Alphabeat till I heard fascination on the radio earlier for the first time in forever and it just clicked why it was so fun. So i'm happy it placed. xpost.

was the healer actually a single? because for an album track, i think that 24 doesn't seem too bad.

sheeeeeeit foxes (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:04 (sixteen years ago)

I'd have thought that Single Ladies was a dead cert for the top ten, if not the top five. Not, like, three places above Alphabeat.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:06 (sixteen years ago)

single ladies is pretty divisive on ilm

Right. The home of contrarianism.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:06 (sixteen years ago)

ah idk about that - i mean the haters say that's it's just a retread of b'day tracks and it can be certainly read as that, because it basically is. the rest of us, i think, thing that's a b'day track as a massive pop single

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:07 (sixteen years ago)

yeesh - the rest of us, i think, thing that it's a b'day track as a massive pop single

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:08 (sixteen years ago)

I rated "Oh My God" high on my ballot, having only just heard it for the first time a day or two before, thanks to the nomination thread. It remains headsticky and sharp, a great example of milking a ton of energy out of a limited premise and very few lyrics. The drummer deserves bonus credit here, although clearly the center of this thing is Ms. Maria, whose Nico von Bjork style is a kind of guaranteed win. Good song.

― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, February 4, 2009 9:55 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

Okay, I like 'Oh my God', but Nico von Bjork?! What kind of comparison is that? Is it even related to this song?

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:10 (sixteen years ago)

Forgive me, I'm just trying to find a way to convey the various indie-cool affectations she's cramming into her vocal style - she totally runs the map from the "birth of the flattened cool" to scrunched-up pixie with odd enunciation. There are probably much clearer and more contemporary references but I don't really keep up with the music of today.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:15 (sixteen years ago)

oh, I forgot to add my 2c about Single Ladies.

i have heard "get me bodied"
i have listened to "get me bodied" many times
"get me bodied is one of my favorite songs
"single ladies," you are no "get me bodied"

it grew on me and all but still, i am annoyed that get me bodied was saved for the kitchen cleanout singles blitz during the waning days of the b'day promo and wasn't given a proper release.

oh well.

miss precious perfect (musically), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 23:18 (sixteen years ago)

23 - Vampire Weekend - A-Punk
121 points, 11 votes
40 in P&J

miss precious perfect (musically), Thursday, 5 February 2009 00:10 (sixteen years ago)

Hopefully "Oxford Comma" ranked too, because "A-Punk" shouldn't be the only representation Vampire Weekend gets.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 5 February 2009 00:21 (sixteen years ago)

Forgive me, I'm just trying to find a way to convey the various indie-cool affectations she's cramming into her vocal style - she totally runs the map from the "birth of the flattened cool" to scrunched-up pixie with odd enunciation. There are probably much clearer and more contemporary references but I don't really keep up with the music of today.

― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, February 4, 2009 11:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

No worries! I couldn't name contemporary references to this myself. It's just that I'm heavily into Nico and can't find a single trace Nico might have left in this song. But I could be entirely deaf to it, I must admit.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 5 February 2009 00:30 (sixteen years ago)

The deep, husky parts on some (not all) of the verses - some of the repetitions of "pin a smile," "for-tress" etc. I'm not good enough at describing voices (nor a fan enough of Nico!) to really do this justice, though.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 5 February 2009 00:50 (sixteen years ago)

Listening to "Kids" now, heard it before but this is the first time I'm paying attention. It's good but maybe playing its cards a little too forcefully in the case of that main keyboard hook. Everything else is really beautifully put-together, though - especially that wonderful, wonderful Super Nintendo solo in the middle there. I much prefer the sound of "Time To Pretend" (which I assume we'll be getting to in due time) but this sort of Faint-esque digression seems like a reasonable thing for this band to do and they equip themselves well. Love the rampaging "Blue Monday" drums that come crashing back in later on. This is pretty okay!

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 5 February 2009 00:56 (sixteen years ago)

I wasn't too convinced by "Fascination" before, but damn, I wish I had bought the album when it was a fiver.

Gukbe, Thursday, 5 February 2009 01:17 (sixteen years ago)

22 - T.I. Feat. Rihanna - Live Your Life
123.5 points, 10 votes
13 in P&J, 40 in p4k

"Live Your Life" with Rihanna is New/Numan Pop awesome.
-Marcello Carlin

miss precious perfect (musically), Thursday, 5 February 2009 01:25 (sixteen years ago)

it's all a bit rich considering that the man doling out life lessons is about to serve a year in jail, but it's quite affecting regardless.

miss precious perfect (musically), Thursday, 5 February 2009 01:26 (sixteen years ago)

last one for tonight:

miss precious perfect (musically), Thursday, 5 February 2009 02:07 (sixteen years ago)

21 - Air France - Collapsing At Your Doorstep
135 points, 13 votes, 1 #1 vote
117 in P&J, 8 in p4k

miss precious perfect (musically), Thursday, 5 February 2009 02:07 (sixteen years ago)

wow, gang gang dance apart (and...surely 'first communion' and 'princes' should place higher?), 30-26, 23 and 21 are some bullshit. was feeling so happy and enthused about the list til then.

'single ladies' is the kind of song that only someone who doesn't care enough about beyoncé to follow her career, or enough about r&b to follow the genre, could vote for. nonetheless i would much rather be that sort of person than the sort of person who gives a shit about the dreary greyness of deerhunter or fleet foxezzz, or who can not only bear but enjoy alphabeat.

spent the day hanging out w/t.i. and his gorgeous smile <3 so now is not the time to grump about numa numa for me

lex pretend, Thursday, 5 February 2009 02:22 (sixteen years ago)

I'm kind of surprised you don't like Air France.

the Nigga who killed reggaeton (The Reverend), Thursday, 5 February 2009 02:33 (sixteen years ago)

eh, i don't hate it but it's just boring and a bit twee. i really really hate twee shit.

lex pretend, Thursday, 5 February 2009 02:35 (sixteen years ago)

Listening to "Disturbia" now - had heard it 2-3 times before but now actually paying attention. It's pretty damn good except for the TITLE - "Disturbia"? It's just a corny word, and aligns badly with the the Marilyn Manson "gothy fast-motion spaz out" video imagery.

But I like the way it comes together as a soundscape, a little 4-minute Blade Runner, the "city of wonder" inhabited by this incredibly machined voice...and yet the prechorus sounds an uplifting note, humanity still alive in the darkness. The suggested narrative is way better than the complete set of actual real-life lyrics.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 5 February 2009 02:36 (sixteen years ago)

It's pretty damn good except for the TITLE - "Disturbia"? It's just a corny word, and aligns badly with the the Marilyn Manson "gothy fast-motion spaz out" video imagery.

or the Shia LeBouf film

Gukbe, Thursday, 5 February 2009 02:46 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, well, exactly. Coming next year from Rihanna: "The Ring," "Spider-Man 2," and "Gothika."

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 5 February 2009 02:50 (sixteen years ago)

re: A-Punk: Wow, it's THAT song! I wonder how many people are in my position of having heard it but never figured out who it was. Catchy thing, I kinda feel like I've heard enough of it by hearing it straight through once though. The guy's voice does nothing at all for me - all the hooks are really in the instrumental.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 5 February 2009 04:06 (sixteen years ago)

annnnnd that Fleet Foxes song is pretty. Does all this mean I really have turned into a boring coffee shop grown-up music listener?

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 5 February 2009 04:28 (sixteen years ago)

Re: Fascination. Hah, I hadn't even bothered to listen to it, on the grounds that it couldn't possible be as good as the Human League. But wow! Agree with the Katrina and the Waves thing. That's my idea of a pop song!

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 5 February 2009 04:30 (sixteen years ago)

ugh son

the Nigga who killed reggaeton (The Reverend), Thursday, 5 February 2009 04:32 (sixteen years ago)

wow, gang gang dance apart (and...surely 'first communion' and 'princes' should place higher?), 30-26, 23 and 21 are some bullshit.

pretty much otm except i like the ida maria song -- it's like a lost '90s modern-rock radio track. but let's just assume this is the indie-ghetto portion of the countdown.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 5 February 2009 05:22 (sixteen years ago)

(and my first reaction to "single ladies" was that it sounded like a b'day b-side, but after a while either i changed my mind or i decided that wasn't a bad thing.)

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 5 February 2009 05:23 (sixteen years ago)

I am loving this list because I have no knowledge of stuff like lindstrom and all the 'dance' (only calling it this because i'm not sure what genre all this stuff actually is) and, like the metal one, it's giving me an easy 'in' to something i never really knew how to start digging into.

everytime i've read someone talk about 'live your life' they always look at hypocritically but, especially considering the video, does no-one else take away the lyrics as tip reassessing his own situation?

sheeeeeeit foxes (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 5 February 2009 09:32 (sixteen years ago)

Air France possibly making the mistake here of having more than one good tune.

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Thursday, 5 February 2009 09:49 (sixteen years ago)

ILM tracks lists always seem to have an indie ghetto around this point.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 09:57 (sixteen years ago)

Hopefully "Oxford Comma" ranked too, because "A-Punk" shouldn't be the only representation Vampire Weekend gets.

Yeah it'd be terrible if Vampire Weekend didn't get the critical attention they deserve.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 10:00 (sixteen years ago)

Indie ghetto
And his mama cries
'cause if there's one thing that she don't need
it's another "wonky pop" act to feed
Indie ghetto

Tuomas, Thursday, 5 February 2009 10:02 (sixteen years ago)

(x-post)

Tuomas, Thursday, 5 February 2009 10:02 (sixteen years ago)

hahahahaha

carbonara not glue (electricsound), Thursday, 5 February 2009 10:08 (sixteen years ago)

ditto on the lols.

Also right there with foxes a hoy hoy on the "dance" (?) stuff which mostly sounds really lovely to me - I have no idea how to evaluate it but it's nice!

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 5 February 2009 13:47 (sixteen years ago)

Only put dance in '' because it's a ridiculous fucking term, but don't know my balaeric from my minimal, what's house, what's techno, etc. etc. etc. etc.

. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 5 February 2009 13:48 (sixteen years ago)

Air France is not particularly twee, certainly not compared to, say, 'Sandcastle Disco'

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 13:49 (sixteen years ago)

ha.

Tim F, Thursday, 5 February 2009 13:50 (sixteen years ago)

ahoyhoy: Right, exactly - it's not my scene and I know I'm missing all sorts of subtle distinctions, but the Air France and the Gang Gang Dance both blow away my puppy's mind.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 5 February 2009 13:52 (sixteen years ago)

poor puppy.

. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 5 February 2009 13:54 (sixteen years ago)

Air France are the acceptable side of twee for me, the romantic sense of wide-eyed wonder rather than sickening mimsiness.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 13:57 (sixteen years ago)

I suppose where they differ from Studio or someone is that their music evokes being stone cold sober and looking at an amazing view with someone cute, rather than being totally fucked and lying in the sun. Both are fun though.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 13:58 (sixteen years ago)

yar. lack of annoying twee lyrics generally (aside from one or two repeated phrases) is a plus too.

I need to pick up that Gang Gang Dance record! So far that and Cassie are the only two which I hadn't heard that would've made me reconsider my votes.

Disco/Very (Roz), Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:01 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah what I like is that they just drop in these totally evocative vocal samples, like that bit where the woman goes "this place... is amazing!" and they don't need anything else.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:03 (sixteen years ago)

air france/'sandcastle disco' is not a very good comparison at all - 'sandcastle disco', for all solange's (charming) pouty affectations, is never as infantile as air france; and it isn't sonically twee in the slightest. it's the sense of naive wonderment which matt describes which puts me off air france, i think. "child-like" is not an appealing adjective at all.

lex pretend, Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:06 (sixteen years ago)

for all solange's (charming) pouty affectations, is never as infantile as air france

don't agree, and not just because solange has 'sandcastle' in the title (musically it's much more overtly sugary and shuffley than AF - easily comparable with tracks like 'Young Folks' on THAT basis. obv i'm not talking about the obvious differences in the vocals between the two there). there is nothing infantile about AF unless you're talking about like sampling children's voices in which case come on...

their music evokes being stone cold sober and looking at an amazing view with someone cute

right but so much different-sounding music does this. 'naive wonderment' and 'child-like' are projections that again can be applied to any melancholic dreamy music to support a criticism of same.

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:14 (sixteen years ago)

What does "sonically twee" even mean here Lex? Does this mean hating on all ambienty sounds?

I can see that Air France are at times twee and/or "childlike", but hating on that aspect of the music seems a little bit like hating on early Omni Trio for the same reason. And with both it strikes me as childlike-ness that is possible only after passing through regret/melancholy/disillusionment. Hence the effectiveness of all their little rave samples (e.g. it's not all surprising that "No Excuses" shares a sample with the first track on Zomby's Where Were You In '92 EP.

It's Frank's babbling brook thing again innit: no adjective is appealing/unappealing all the time.

Tim F, Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:15 (sixteen years ago)

I'd quite like a record that samples lots of small children going "bumbaclaat".

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:17 (sixteen years ago)

this 'child-like' thing could be a good separate thread discussion - as i can think of countless examples where those using it as a criticism against AF would approve of it elsewhere (dancier stuff, RnB...).

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:20 (sixteen years ago)

And with both it strikes me as childlike-ness that is possible only after passing through regret/melancholy/disillusionment

Yes hello COMEDOWN MUSIC.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:22 (sixteen years ago)

Moreover this is where I can't finally get on board with the anti-indie crusade - it tries to hypostasize different ennervating configurations into a single monolithic quality of wrongness, which is something i think just doesn't exist in music (unless we're talking about, say, "holocaust denying" as a quality of music).

My longstanding issues with indie are much more comparable to the way I felt about dubstep two years ago: the sense that this music is/was so often being obtuse in failing to live up to its own rhetoric and/or potential. I've been pleasantly surprised to find dubstep starting to reform itself, and while indie is too big/amorphous to undergo "reform" as such, there's similar situations where pockets of music we might call "indie" draw their indie qualities into configurations that escape or (better yet) respond to the very frustrations I normally have.

Gang Gang Dance are precisely such an example; it would be dishonest to give them some kind of free pass by saying "oh no they're not really indie." Better and more interesting to ask how/why they redeem indie as an operating context.

Tim F, Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:23 (sixteen years ago)

And with both it strikes me as childlike-ness that is possible only after passing through regret/melancholy/disillusionment

i don't hear this at all, or see how it would make it better. idk those air france tracks are a bit like marcel pagnol books, it's like viewing the world through rose-tinted glasses which never come off. total pastoral overload (when the flutes come in, it's just like...stop it, ffs), and cut up really senselessly too. i don't really hate it though b/c it's too insubstantial and nothingy for that, but if i was in a room and someone put it on, it'd really start grating after 15 minutes or so.

lex pretend, Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:24 (sixteen years ago)

Yes hello COMEDOWN MUSIC.

jesus NO!!

ahhh i've just worked out what air france is like a really poor take on - the blissful kuniyuki takahashi album from last year. now that is some gorgeous sample-dappled pastoralism there.

lex pretend, Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:25 (sixteen years ago)

i admit i wouldn't mind hearing a touch more (any) menace in AF's stuff sometimes

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:26 (sixteen years ago)

total pastoral overload (when the flutes come in, it's just like...stop it, ffs)

This strikes me as a more concrete criticism really, and one I would agree with if pastoral overload bothered me in the slightest. As it is, you can slap on "omg sunshine in fields" signifiers with a trowel and I'll pretty much lap it up.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:28 (sixteen years ago)

I will check that Takahashi album out though.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:28 (sixteen years ago)

"Yes hello COMEDOWN MUSIC."

Yes, but i was thinking also of how Simon Reynolds describes Omni Trio in Generation Ecstasy - like a frail, mirage-like flashback to '92 rave, but unable to erase entirely the awareness of the bad drug vibes of '93.

Air France's music isn't at all trying to do that "Fascination"-style dogmatic insistence on innocence/positivity: it's music that explicitly toys with the fragility of loveliness - e.g. the double implication of a sample like "...like a dream/no, better." This is why they remind me so much of Saint Etienne, especially the tear-flecked "euphoria" of "He's On The Phone". Which makes me think of Kylie's "Better The Devil You Know", which I think my friend Catherine described as being about the hysterical joy of staring into an abyss (which is melodramatic but spot-on in many ways).

Tim F, Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:29 (sixteen years ago)

kuniyuki myspazz: http://www.myspace.com/kuniyuki

'all these things' sums up what i love about kuniyuki's album pretty well. it was definitely a default comedown album last year.

lex pretend, Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:31 (sixteen years ago)

fwiw lex you're not the only person i know who dislikes air france because they're twee and I agree with you that the Kuniyuki record is gorgeous.

I don't find AF child-like at all. I dunno girl-like seems like a more accurate description. they remind me of watching sofia coppola movies (oh no twee AND indie).

Disco/Very (Roz), Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:32 (sixteen years ago)

It's a nostalgia for the state of child-like wonder isn't it? Reminds me of the Go Team! in that respect (who admittedly I don't particularly like, and who I expect Lex likes even less).

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:34 (sixteen years ago)

Is nostalgia inherently twee?

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:34 (sixteen years ago)

What if you're an ageing Viking getting nostalgic for your raping and pillaging days?

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:35 (sixteen years ago)

It's a nostalgia for the state of child-like wonder isn't it?

marcel fucking pagnol comparison gains weight! i hated pagnol so much. i also hate the go team, yes, but for difft reasons (unlistenable non-production).

i'm not particularly down w/nostalgia generally, but when i am it's almost always to do w/specific memories or situations rather than the vague meaninglessness of "child-like wonder" - i actually have no concrete memories of "child-like wonder" at all, it's not a phrase which conjures anything up for me.

lex pretend, Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:37 (sixteen years ago)

Damn, you sure got my number... (x-post)

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:38 (sixteen years ago)

i actually have no concrete memories of "child-like wonder" at all, it's not a phrase which conjures anything up for me.

as a parent of small children, i can attest that wonder is part of the deal -- take a kid to his first circus and watch. but only a part. there's also a lot of temper tantrums, power struggles, anxiety, confusion and fear. but you rarely hear anyone invoke "child-like terror."

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:45 (sixteen years ago)

it seems to me that it's one of those things that you only notice from the outside - watching kids poke around and discover the world - at the time it's just what one does. though i did spend much of my childhood trying to be a blasé know-it-all

lex pretend, Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:49 (sixteen years ago)

twee black metal would be something to hear.

(a mess0 (Ioannis), Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:50 (sixteen years ago)

tipsy otm, I have no memories of 'child like wonder' but it exists as I've seen it several times, both with my son and other children and I guess my parents must have saw me responding with awe or wonder back in the day. I didn't get cynical until I was at least aged 11.

Shallow Gravy (Billy Dods), Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:51 (sixteen years ago)

Surely the whole point of nostalgia for childlike wonder is that it's actually nostalgia for something you don't remember having experienced. It's like when you've never been in a relationship but keenly feel a sense of nostalgia for an imagined love.

I'm tempted to go a bit wanky here and start talking about "retroactive positing". Childlike wonder springs into existence at the point that you become aware that it is not something you can access. Or more simply "you don't know what you've got till it's gone".

The - yes - drugginess of Air France lies in how they play with e's ultimately unfulfilled (or at least not permanently fulfilled) promise to "restore" this sensation. That's the sense in which it can be literally comedown music, without being "chillout" as such.

Tim F, Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:53 (sixteen years ago)

That last para is pretty much exactly what I was trying to articulate.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:02 (sixteen years ago)

<3 u guys who imply that "indie" tracks are never good enough for the tracks poll.

anyway, i'm thankful for the repeated exposure to GGD and the initial exposure to alphabeat (i like that song a lot though i don't know how often i want to listen to it). i agree that ida maria sounds like a lost 90s track but i'm not sure that's a good thing. love seeing those t.i. jams and still basically confused by air france. so yeah, it's been educational as always.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:17 (sixteen years ago)

only version of 'Fascination' i get with

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:26 (sixteen years ago)

Childlike wonder springs into existence at the point that you become aware that it is not something you can access.

yeah, although i think the misleading term here is probably 'childlike.' we're really talking about wonder, period. and i guess that's where people (like, maybe, air france, and definitely, say, flaming lips) go wrong for me in sort of stipulating innocence or at least naivete as a precondition for wonder. or, more precisely, fetishizing the particular variety of wonder that arises from imagined innocence or naivete. as a grown-up, i can still experience wonder, including in music, through avenues that don't require any nostalgia at all. ornette coleman comes to mind (who arguably also fetishizes a kind of innocence, but it's of a more rigorous sort).

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:45 (sixteen years ago)

Geogaddi is the best example I can think of of ambient electronic music that mixes childlike wonderment with anxiety, confusion and fear. That said, I'm not sure I want Air France to become more sinister.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:51 (sixteen years ago)

tipsy otm re: innocence and naivete, that's what i was trying to get at

lex pretend, Thursday, 5 February 2009 16:01 (sixteen years ago)

Here we are, counting down the top 20:

miss precious perfect (musically), Thursday, 5 February 2009 16:42 (sixteen years ago)

20 - Jordin Sparks And Chris Brown - No Air
139 points, 11 votes, 1 #1 vote
75 in P&J

Oddly for an American Idol winner, on her own material Jordin usually performs most strongly when she realises that her baby-Mariah voice actually works best prosecuting baby-Janet material (see for example current single “One Step At A Time”): fluttery and almost ostentatiously pretty, with Jordin’s voice never resting on a single note for more than a moment – with Janet this is done to obscure her vocal limitations, with Jordin it’s a choice.

“No Air” is a bit risky therefore, with Jordin lingering lugubriously over heartbroken notes and phrases like she’s been shot in the chest. But death-fixated pop songs are the exception to every rule, and this suicide note is simply gorgeous, a deep pool of intoxicating emotion perfect for every wallower. Chris Brown also does fantastic, understated work, his gentle, yearning delivery providing a trace paper outline of a hidden mountain of regret.

If the song is devastated, the arrangement is utopian, all twinkling starlight tinkles and the most graceful stuttering kickdrum. The chorus, when the two get wrapped up in suffocating clouds of cumulus synthesiser is probably the largest moment in pop this year, like two giant space babies finding each other in a Hollywood remake of 2001: A Space Odyssey redone as a romance. And we haven’t gotten to the fabulous artificial strings in the last two minutes, then that absolutely desolate, almost discordant harmonised moan, and then the stadium drums come in, and, oh… words fail, truly they do.
-Tim F

miss precious perfect (musically), Thursday, 5 February 2009 16:42 (sixteen years ago)

I really don't get this list at all, I'd expected that to be much higher. I have no idea what's going to place where in the upper reaches of this, except Milli and Rolex.

Unexploded Bomb = Kings of Leon - Sex On Fire.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 16:50 (sixteen years ago)

wow, i had not even heard of this song until right now, but tim you just sold it to me like a million times over.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 February 2009 16:51 (sixteen years ago)

think Happy House is top 5.

Disco/Very (Roz), Thursday, 5 February 2009 16:52 (sixteen years ago)

Tim otm above, re. the performance/production. unfortunately, the song itself isn't particularly memorable.

(a mess0 (Ioannis), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:00 (sixteen years ago)

"No Air" - no, sorry, I just don't hear it. At all.
(But Tim F's description makes me wish that I did...)

mike t-diva, Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:00 (sixteen years ago)

whoops I wanted to post my favorite remix of No Air:

Benny Benassi remix

miss precious perfect (musically), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:01 (sixteen years ago)

Hope its not the only Chris Brown mention here.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:01 (sixteen years ago)

JS won American Idol? It seems odd that it hasn't been mentioned once in marketing her over here, although I guess it might have hindered her a little bit with the rnb audience (i have nothing to back this up though). Love the song.

. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:05 (sixteen years ago)

I thought it was pretty heavy, but then I don't really pay that much attention to marketing unless I'm really into something already since I don't own a radio or television.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:06 (sixteen years ago)

No Jeezy yet, I hope we haven't split the Recession vote by nominating too many tracks.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:07 (sixteen years ago)

fuck a song - that remix is infinitely preferable!

xp's

(a mess0 (Ioannis), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:08 (sixteen years ago)

I'd imagine "Blind" is up towards the top too. And I hope all the Crazy Cousinz votes didn't go to "Bongo Jam" and we still get "Do Ya Mind".

Maciej (maciej recognizing trill), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:10 (sixteen years ago)

I assume American Boy will be top10 as well.

. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:12 (sixteen years ago)

If it wasn't I would really wonder at the point of this site.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:13 (sixteen years ago)

My guess for the top five would be some combination of A Milli, Blind, Wearing My Rolex, Time To Pretend and maybe Paper Planes, depending on how many people voted for it as a 2008 release. Otherwise replace it with American Boy or Love Lockdown.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:16 (sixteen years ago)

if it's gonna be that boringly predictable how about we just stop at 11?

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:20 (sixteen years ago)

Machine Gun top ten or not?

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:22 (sixteen years ago)

because it's just a ruse and los campesinos! are actually going to fill all 10 spots.

. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:22 (sixteen years ago)

Blackout Crew for #1.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:24 (sixteen years ago)

Awesome thread, y'all - old school ILM material!

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:27 (sixteen years ago)

I still don't understand how so many people whose taste I otherwise respect find "American Boy" tolerable.

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:35 (sixteen years ago)

still surprised u hate on it this much

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:36 (sixteen years ago)

its really annoying

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:37 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, that

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:40 (sixteen years ago)

i like the beat OK, but the vocals do nothing for me (and the will.i.am version isn't any better).

n00bian princess (some dude), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:41 (sixteen years ago)

still surprised people find it annoying

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:45 (sixteen years ago)

Estelle's vocals are really shrill, and the lyrics are really stupid when not completely cringeworthy. The melody is catchy, but not pleasing, and so just sits in your head being annoying forever after you hear it. Kanye is as cloying and smug as he's ever been. The way the beat is arranged discards any sense of flow it had in "Impatient". Basically, this song is garbage. I hate it more than Katy Perry.

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:52 (sixteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure I would love any r'n'b song that dropped Ribena though

Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 5 February 2009 17:57 (sixteen years ago)

Are most of the (non-british) people who like "American Boy" anglophiles to some degree? I find anglophilia offputting in general (which certainly isn't to say I hate English music or English people or Englishness, just Americanos who get b0nerz about such things) and this song triggers that revulsion.

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:01 (sixteen years ago)

Estelle's vocals are too airy to be shrill.

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:02 (sixteen years ago)

No, they are absolutely ear-damaging.

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:02 (sixteen years ago)

to me there's just something about the way her accent manifests in that song that is really bothersome to me - also the chorus "i really want tooooooo/ come kick it with yooooouuu" is like the dictionary definition of 'annoying' to me

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:04 (sixteen years ago)

i'm not an anglophile in the slightest (and really have trouble relating to a lot of brit music), but something about the breeziness of 'american boy' is enjoyable to me.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:07 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, that goes back to what I said about being catchy, but not pleasing. Catchy + ugly is more or less the worst combination of adjectives in music. Otm about her accent, too.

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:08 (sixteen years ago)

(was an xp)

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:08 (sixteen years ago)

I also hate how cute this song tries to be about the fact that Estelle is British. It's like I understand that there are cultural differences between the US and UK, you don't need to fucking Big Bird this shit for me.

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:10 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i wish it struck a kind of idk jetsetter tone - with estelle in the position of power - but instead it just makes her seem really doltish and ditzy

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:13 (sixteen years ago)

on listening closely for the first time in a while, what i really like about it is actually the progression--it's a little jazzy/loungy and seems a little atypical for an r&b hit. it's not totally successful because, as michael mcdonald would point out, they did not go 100% smooth.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:13 (sixteen years ago)

jetsetter OTM--that's what i want this song to be.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:14 (sixteen years ago)

yeah that is annoying generally (see also Sway's love of the Union Flag) but i blame the US involvement in these things just as much for that too. it's Kanye who wanted to drop in more UK refs and make a deal out of that too. xposts

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:14 (sixteen years ago)

No, they are absolutely ear-damaging.

okay so basically the problem here is that you are insane (not because she represents the epitome of amazing singing or anything but because she's basically the vocal equivalent of a fangless Ashanti and somehow your brain has managed to translate "barely audible" into "shrill, piercing")

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:14 (sixteen years ago)

19 - Grace Jones - Williams' Blood
142 points, 12 votes, 1 #1 vote
(7 votes, 81.5 points for Aeroplane Remix)
1722/429 in P&J

Aeroplane Remix

miss precious perfect (musically), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:14 (sixteen years ago)

both brilliant

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:15 (sixteen years ago)

yeah ftr even tho rev is obv challopsing, i think he's going overplaying how bad her vocals are - they are just mildly annoying but annoying enough - very mosquito trapped in your car

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:17 (sixteen years ago)

What about the greg wilson one? (I haven't heard it but am v curious)

Mirror-spangled elephant head (J@cob), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:18 (sixteen years ago)

I'm actually reeling that anyone could dislike this song just a little bit.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:18 (sixteen years ago)

xps: Oh, don't worry, I hold Kanye just as responsible.

more xps: R&b singers (or non-jazz singers in general) using "jazz" mannerisms tend to annoy the fuck out of me because very close to NONE of them do it well. They almost always seem to think that singing jazz-style means singing in an awful, pinched, nasal tone. Thanks for hitting upon another thing that annoys me about this song.

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:18 (sixteen years ago)

jordan and rev remind me, how do you find adele's and duffy's voices?

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:19 (sixteen years ago)

Estelle's vocals are just right at the point where they set me completely on edge and make my fillings rattle in my teeth. Shit is like a dog whistle to me.

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:20 (sixteen years ago)

jordan and rev remind me, how do you find adele's and duffy's voices?

― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, February 5, 2009 10:19 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I find them to be like murder me now and get it over with.

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:20 (sixteen years ago)

cosign

Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:21 (sixteen years ago)

i like "chasing pavements" a lot (havent heard duffy), but i really don't mind estelle in general - in fact i think "no substitute love" and the new one w/ sean paul are both really great - it's just something about the melody of the song that brings out something unpleasant in her voice - also the melody itself is annoying

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:21 (sixteen years ago)

Rev your hate for "American Girl" is baffling. Like.. are we listening to a different song?

De Pussyclot Dolls (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:22 (sixteen years ago)

18 - M83 - Kim & Jessie
142.5 points, 13 votes, 1 #1 vote
30 in P&J, 5 in p4k

miss precious perfect (musically), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:22 (sixteen years ago)

xxp: Right. I do like most of Estelle's other stuff, but not to a great degree. It's just this song in particular that hurls me over the edge.

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:23 (sixteen years ago)

Rev your hate for "American Girl" is baffling. Like.. are we listening to a different song?

― De Pussyclot Dolls (The Brainwasher), Thursday, February 5, 2009 10:22 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

sorry duke, It's been battling it out with "I Kissed a Girl" all year for least favorite song

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:24 (sixteen years ago)

Estelle's vocals are just right at the point where they set me completely on edge and make my fillings rattle in my teeth. Shit is like a dog whistle to me.

haha so is there a female singer you can listen to or are they all like shoving icepicks in your ears

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:24 (sixteen years ago)

Adele's voice is really good, she just needs better material. About half of her album is great... Duffy is one of the worst 'singers'... now THAT is a "shrill" voice Rev. Estelle is such a non-entity in terms of singing, she has a pleasant voice, it works for her...

De Pussyclot Dolls (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:24 (sixteen years ago)

xp Intentional misconstruance zzzzzz.

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:25 (sixteen years ago)

think Skin Of The Night is now my favourite vocal track on Saturdays=Youth.

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:25 (sixteen years ago)

whoops, yesterday i said I would post a list of the placers so far:

50 - Flo Rida - Low (69.5 points, 7 votes)
49 - Air France - No Excuses (70 points, 5 votes, 1 #1 vote)
48 - Kleerup Feat. Lykke Li - Until We Bleed (73.5 points, 7 votes; 3 votes, 29.5 points for Mikael's Cello Version)
47 - Kelley Polar - Entropy Reigns (In The Celestial City) (74 points, 7 votes)
46 - The Bug - Poison Dart feat. Warrior Queen (75.5 points, 7 votes)
45 - Katy Perry - Hot N Cold (76 points, 7 votes)
44 - Crazy Cousinz - Bongo Jam (77 points, 6 votes)
43 - MGMT - Kids (82 points, 9 votes)
42 - TV On The Radio - Family Tree (83 points, 6 votes)
41 - T.I. - No Matter What (83.5 points, 5 votes, 1 #1 vote, )
40 - Cassie - Official Girl (83.5 points, 6 votes, 2 #1 votes)
39 - Matias Aguayo - Minimal (84 points, 7 votes, 4 votes; 51.5 points for DJ Koze Maxi Version)
38 - Half Man Half Biscuit - National Shite Day (86 points, 6 votes, 1 #1 vote)
37 - Lil Wayne - Got Money (Ft. T-Pain) (90.5 points, 7 votes)
36 - Ting Tings, The - That's Not My Name (91.5 points, 8 votes)
35 - Rihanna - Disturbia (92 points, 9 votes)
34 - Lil Wayne feat. Static Major - Lollipop (94 points, 8 votes)
33 - Lindstrøm - The Long Way Home (97 points, 10 votes; 3 votes, 23 points for Prins Thomas Edit)
32 - Goldfrapp - A & E (98 points, 9 votes, 1 #1 vote)
31 - Ne-Yo - Closer (98.5 points, 10 votes)
30 - Deerhunter - Nothing Ever Happened (101.5 points, 10 votes)
29 - Gang Gang Dance - House Jam (102.5 points, 8 votes)
28 - Fleet Foxes - White Winter Hymnal (106 points, 8 votes)
27 - Alphabeat - Fascination (111 points, 7 votes, 2 #1 votes)
26 - Ida Maria - Oh My God (116 points, 9 votes, 1 #1 vote)
25 - Erykah Badu - The Healer (117 points, 9 votes, 1 #1 vote)
24 - Beyonce - Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It) (120.5 points, 12 votes)
23 - Vampire Weekend - A-Punk (121 points, 11 votes)
22 - T.I. Feat. Rihanna - Live Your Life (123.5 points, 10 votes)
21 - Air France - Collapsing At Your Doorstep (135 points, 13 votes, 1 #1 vote)
20 - Jordin Sparks And Chris Brown - No Air (139 points, 11 votes, 1 #1 vote)
19 - Grace Jones - Williams' Blood (142 points, 12 votes, 1 #1 vote; 7 votes, 81.5 points for Aeroplane Remix)
18 - M83 - Kim & Jessie (142.5 points, 13 votes, 1 #1 vote)

miss precious perfect (musically), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:26 (sixteen years ago)

Kim & Jessie <3 <3 <3

Conti Rice (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:27 (sixteen years ago)

How the hell is that intentional misconstruence! I'm not the one going "OH MY GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWD HER VOICE IS SO SHRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILL IT HURTS MY EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEARS! ;_;"

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:28 (sixteen years ago)

sorry duke, It's been battling it out with "I Kissed a Girl" all year for least favorite song

― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, February 5, 2009 6:24 PM (3 minutes ago)

Its kind of sick that you would even compare these

Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:28 (sixteen years ago)

xp Because Estelle is only one person?

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:29 (sixteen years ago)

Estelle's vocals are just right at the point where they set me completely on edge and make my fillings rattle in my teeth. Shit is like a dog whistle to me.

Considering that she has possibly the LEAST SHRILL VOICE of any female singer who had a popular hit in 2008, this basically tells me you either a) can't handle hearing notes over a certain pitch; b) really suck at detecting/describing timbre; or c) are having such a visceral reaction to other elements in the song that you dislike that you've completely forgotten what Estelle actually sounds like.

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:32 (sixteen years ago)

Yay M83! I neglected to nominate any tracks, myself, and when I went to vote found myself without very much on the list that I could get behind, thus my tracks ballot had only: four M83 songs, "Hot N Cold" and one forlorn Jesu "alternate version". But two of those in the top 50 so far, and if Kim & Jessie got 142.5 points, I'm betting at least Graveyard Girl is still to come. And Couleurs?!

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:33 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i think dan's right btw - her voice isn't shrill

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:33 (sixteen years ago)

c) are having such a visceral reaction to other elements in the song that you dislike that you've completely forgotten what Estelle actually sounds like.

^^^^^^

De Pussyclot Dolls (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:34 (sixteen years ago)

is it just 'weak'? it kinda breaks on high notes. personally i find it a bit endearing and at least she's got character.

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:34 (sixteen years ago)

I can't believe "Got Money" made this list. I would never have guessed that song had pop crit appeal

The eMo City Don (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:36 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i know rite

De Pussyclot Dolls (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:36 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, it's the way it breaks on the high notes, in addition to the nasal "jazz"-isms that really just fucks with my head.

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:37 (sixteen years ago)

Didn't you say you liked the Estelle album though? Is it just her voice on that particular song that bothers you?

De Pussyclot Dolls (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:38 (sixteen years ago)

Estelle's voice definitely sounds "weak" compared to most other pop singers because she isn't pressing or belting; it's basically the exact opposite of what Duffy does. (Also, as pointed out, there seem to be some range things going on there, too.)

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:38 (sixteen years ago)

xxp: Right. I do like most of Estelle's other stuff, but not to a great degree. It's just this song in particular that hurls me over the edge.

― The Reverend (rev), Thursday, February 5, 2009 10:23 AM Bookmark

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:39 (sixteen years ago)

again any destroyer fan who hasnt heard "no cease fires" should do so

k3vin k., Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:40 (sixteen years ago)

Dan, do you mean range things going on with Estelle or range things going on with Duffy?

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:40 (sixteen years ago)

(xpost to myself) RONG THREAD

k3vin k., Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:40 (sixteen years ago)

I can't believe "Got Money" made this list. I would never have guessed that song had pop crit appeal

― The eMo City Don (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally)

wat, t-pain and weezy are beloved by ILM, i would have been shocked if it hadn't placed

miss precious perfect (musically), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:41 (sixteen years ago)

yeah but there are tons of T-Wayne songs I would've thought much more likely to place than "Got Money"

n00bian princess (some dude), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:42 (sixteen years ago)

Dan, do you mean range things going on with Estelle or range things going on with Duffy?

I mean with Estelle and was implying some problems; the best thing Duffy does on "Mercy" is switch out of her pressed voice into head voice on that high note, something Estelle wouldn't have to do because her entire song sounds like it was sung in head voice.

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:43 (sixteen years ago)

yeah that is annoying generally (see also Sway's love of the Union Flag)

American vocalists often drop in parochial references that have minimal relevance to most people outside the US. Most Americans are unaware that the world does not actually revolve around the cultural minutiae of their country, so don't notice this.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:50 (sixteen years ago)

;)

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:50 (sixteen years ago)

lol

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:51 (sixteen years ago)

I don't actually like American Boy that much and wouldn't be particularly bothered if it didn't make the list at all.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:53 (sixteen years ago)

Williams Blood, on the other hand, is brilliant.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:54 (sixteen years ago)

I think "AB" is pleasant enough but I don't really see why it was a massive, inescapable hit unless there's a previously-untapped "lol Kanye said 'RUBBISH!'" market out there.

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:54 (sixteen years ago)

17 - Kanye West - Love Lockdown
144 points, 12 votes
9 in P&J, 39 in p4k

"Love Lockdown" is the best piece of pop I've heard since "Umbrella" or maybe "Piece of Me". I have no idea if it'll break big, but I've been singing it pretty much nonstop for five days now (albeit asking filling in all kinds of strange and generally lewd things for "love").
― Euler

"Love Lockdown" is kind of great, both on its own merits with its naval-gazing minimalist construction merged with the drumming breaks, and when placed next to everything else on the pop charts at the moment. It is certainly the most unique-sounding hit on the countdown at the moment.
- HI DERE

miss precious perfect (musically), Thursday, 5 February 2009 19:02 (sixteen years ago)

speak of the devil...

miss precious perfect (musically), Thursday, 5 February 2009 19:02 (sixteen years ago)

American vocalists often drop in parochial references that have minimal relevance to most people outside the US. Most Americans are unaware that the world does not actually revolve around the cultural minutiae of their country, so don't notice this.

― Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, February 5, 2009 10:50 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Naw, I'm always down for some local color, but the way they take so much pain to play up her Britishness in a song that was aimed at breaking her to an American audience annoys. The UK-specific references play as exotification in a way they wouldn't in something like "1980". Once again, I realize this is as much Kanye's fault as Estelle's.

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 19:03 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, "lol Kanye said 'RUBBISH!'" is basically it.

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 19:05 (sixteen years ago)

the "love lockdown" outro is the best part of the song

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 19:06 (sixteen years ago)

"you looooooose" is totally what tips the song from OK to bad for me

n00bian princess (some dude), Thursday, 5 February 2009 19:07 (sixteen years ago)

uh, I'm a moron & forgot to vote in this, but: awesome job & great thread!

Machine Gun top ten or not?

― Frank Sumatra (NickB), Thursday, February 5, 2009 12:22 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

top 5, I'd guess. Maybe even top 3, somewhere in very close proximity to "A Milli."

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Thursday, 5 February 2009 19:13 (sixteen years ago)

Rev, do you hate nasality in vocalization in general or is this just a specific instance of that? (lol, Beach Boys h8eration to thread.)

(a mess0 (Ioannis), Thursday, 5 February 2009 19:28 (sixteen years ago)

I wouldn't say in all instances, but more often than not and more often in singers who are not naturally nasal than those who are. I also wouldn't think of the Beach Boys as nasal really. My objection to them is more "cherubic glee club vocals".

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 19:44 (sixteen years ago)

Woah - 'Love Lockdown' is some kind of wonderful. Why wasn't I aware of this already?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:06 (sixteen years ago)

Do you not read this site?

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:11 (sixteen years ago)

ok. just asking cause the predominance of nasal vocals was probably the central reason for my inability to get with old-timey country music once upon an age, fwtw. so, yeah, i can see where that might be a problem for you. but don't really see how it applies to Estelle's singing on "American Boy." is she irritating? sure. shrill? i say thee nay. i like it.

(a mess0 (Ioannis), Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:14 (sixteen years ago)

or listen to the radio? xp

k3vin k., Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:14 (sixteen years ago)

wot planet u on?

xps

(a mess0 (Ioannis), Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:15 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah yeah, I know. My loss.

Now I'm scared to say anything for fearing of showing myself up even more, but here's something subcontinental about it, is there not?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:17 (sixteen years ago)

Dude, don't worry about it. We're a forgiving bunch unless you drown someone.

the Nigga who killed reggaeton (The Reverend), Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:20 (sixteen years ago)

Don't feel bad - I've heard maybe five or six of the big chart hits of 2008. My clock radio only gets good reception on oldies stations and I just never think to go out of my way to check out stuff, even though obv. I like pop pretty well!

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:21 (sixteen years ago)

16 - Hot Chip - Ready For The Floor
144.5 points, 11 votes, 1 #1 vote
12 in P&J, 3 in p4k

I still can't figure out precisely (linguistically) what it is that underlying 8-bit synth glide in 'Ready For The Floor' does to me, but it feels quite awesome.
-William Bloody Swygart

miss precious perfect (musically), Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:23 (sixteen years ago)

Heh, practically the only ones I've heard so far are ones that I actually voted for xp - which makes this poll a far more interesting and enriching experience, obviously.

About 'Love Lockdown' though, what is it that I'm picking up to make me think of Indian music? Is it just the drum pattern, or is it the bass sounding like a tabla, or is it something else entirely?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:27 (sixteen years ago)

I didn't think much of 'Ready for the Floor' when I first heard it - much as I'd like to like Hot Chip, there's often a kind of archness about them that I find quite offputting, this seeming like a prime example. But now I find it quite sweet and sincere. Maybe it's just the lack of effects on the vocals. I really like the video too

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:36 (sixteen years ago)

The problem with Hot Chip is that for archness to work you have to actually be clever.

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:38 (sixteen years ago)

Well, one of their problems.

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:38 (sixteen years ago)

it sounds too brittle for me (and not in a good way).

(a mess0 (Ioannis), Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:40 (sixteen years ago)

That, too. For a group that seems intent on making beat music, they seem to have a remarkable lack of... beats.

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:43 (sixteen years ago)

Sorry if it seems like I'm just negging on everything in this thread, btw. Most of the songs I haven't commented on are crazy awesome.

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:45 (sixteen years ago)

I'm amazed people like this enough for it to place so high (on this and other year-end polls). I can't get through the first minute.

lou, Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:49 (sixteen years ago)

Back to Erykah Badu (no.24 or thereabouts) - this was the last thing I had on last night, just once, and it sounded amazing. Today I can't see what the fuss was about. Actually, that's not fair, it's very haunting and I do like it, but it could virtually be a Kate Bush tune (I'm thinking something off The Dreaming, maybe 'Leave it Open'). No bad thing, but I find it strange that it should be so exalted

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:51 (sixteen years ago)

not to be a dick but it takes a special kind of white person to make a beat as inept as the one in 'ready for the floor.'

call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:52 (sixteen years ago)

^It's a great song but probably needs to be heard in context of whole album

xp

all my single lobsters put a ring on it (tpp), Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:53 (sixteen years ago)

looooooooool

xpost

n00bian princess (some dude), Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:54 (sixteen years ago)

loool CAD

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:55 (sixteen years ago)

haha xp

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:55 (sixteen years ago)

yeah I love Erykah/New Amerykah/"The Healer" but I never did get why everyone is SO crazy for that particular song (it won the 'best song on new amerykah' poll by a large margin) as opposed to, say, "Soldier" or "That Hump"...

De Pussyclot Dolls (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:57 (sixteen years ago)

"ready for the floor" is a really sweet song - "you're my number one guy/ number one guy/ number number one one one one guuuyyyyy"

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:11 (sixteen years ago)

There was a time in very early 2008 when Ready For The Floor felt like a genuine pop moment, in the the UK at least. It went top three over here, there were stories that Kylie tried to get it for her album. Those moments when an oddball band suddenly go from indie/hipster concern to actual High Street disco-friendly pop are still comparatively rare. I still wish it had actually gone to Number One because the last minute or so would have been perfect at the end of chart rundown shows.

Of course, then other ILM hobbyhorses like Wiley and Dizzee Rascal and MIA all had massive hits, and it stopped looking like such a novelty. I still love the song though, and its clunkiness works in its favour like a lot of the best Hot Chip songs. When they don't work, however, they can be awful, but the feeling that they're stumbling across great pop as much by accident as design, that the wheels could just come off at any point, comedy clown car style, is part of their appeal.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:12 (sixteen years ago)

15 - MGMT - Electric Feel
151 points, 12 votes
(2 votes, 27.5 points for Aeroplane Remix)
18 in P&J

Aeroplane Remix

"electric feel" reminds me of something from the first two PRINCE albums, but with more production. I love when it comes on in the car.
― nicky lo-fi

electric feel is the type of song prince would have written for the family (screams of passion) or shiela e or someone in the mid 80s.
― titchyschneiderMk2

miss precious perfect (musically), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:13 (sixteen years ago)

btw idk how you guys are tripping off the beat - it's got a great bounce to it

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:13 (sixteen years ago)

and yeah it's a great pop song, the vocals are what make it anyway

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:15 (sixteen years ago)

"electric feel" = awesome. I don't really get their other songs but thats a great one.

De Pussyclot Dolls (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:15 (sixteen years ago)

The bounce is more in the synths and the bass than the beat though, they're what carry the song, the beat is almost an afterthought.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:16 (sixteen years ago)

(Sorry, I'm still on Hot Chip, meh to MGMT. Although the Aeroplane remix of Electric Feel is great, just transforms it texturally and harmonically).

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:17 (sixteen years ago)

well i guess i consider the synth and bass part of the 'beat' - but yeah i mean the synth pattern that comes in a minute in or whatever and powers the whole song

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:17 (sixteen years ago)

MehGMT

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:17 (sixteen years ago)

I still think Electric Feel is amazing. Shame about most of the album.

Gukbe, Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:18 (sixteen years ago)

"electric feel" is a great disco ballad, str8 up

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:18 (sixteen years ago)

and yeah it's a great pop song, the vocals are what make it anyway

― your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, February 5, 2009 1:15 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I don't like the vocals either tho. :-/ Dude sounds so meek. I guess one thing about the two Hot Chip songs I've heard that I do like ("Playboy and "Shake a Fist") is that he parlays this meekness into sounding kind of spooked.

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:25 (sixteen years ago)

yeah the meekness is the point and the attraction though - i mean the vocals are supposed to sound soft and vulnerable. i couldn't really imagine a more 'strong' voice singing hot chip songs

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:28 (sixteen years ago)

he's no Jonathan Richman.

(a mess0 (Ioannis), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:32 (sixteen years ago)

man i had not taken MGMT seriously but both the songs that placed in the poll totally rule.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:40 (sixteen years ago)

"Electric Feel" still sounds like an outtake from Midnite Vultures to me. I understand the Prince touchstones, but it doesn't swing at all.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:41 (sixteen years ago)

but it doesn't swing at all

Yes, exactly. 'Electric Feel' is really plodding and crude-sounding. I can't stand the singer's manner either, or maybe I just don't like his face.

dubmill, Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:46 (sixteen years ago)

what does 'swinging' have to do with it - it's obviously supposed to move vertically not horizontally

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:47 (sixteen years ago)

by which i mean that i think it's supposed to be a lighters up anthem with a great bassline not some like sweaty dance workout

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:47 (sixteen years ago)

"Electric Feel" is the least of the three singles to come from the album, but still cool...I guess. "Kids" is my favorite of the three, though, so what the hell do I know.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:48 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i guess i don't think electric feel is trying to swing and i think hot chip is.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:48 (sixteen years ago)

man i had not taken MGMT seriously but both the songs that placed in the poll totally rule

yeah, me too

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:50 (sixteen years ago)

maybe I just don't like his face

im going to use this as my defense as much as possible from now on.

"why don't you like joy division???"
"maybe i just don't like his face...ever think of that?"

also, agree that electric feel doesn't swing, ergo is somewhat useless. time to pretend was my no 1, and i don't think i picked any other mgmt tunes.

rent, Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:51 (sixteen years ago)

the vocals are supposed to sound soft and vulnerable (re. Hot Chip)

That's as may be, but to me it's more feeble and wimpy. I can't stand the beat either (as previously referred to). I keep thinking the proper beat is going to come in, but it doesn't. Not that I want some great big dance beat to come in, but something a bit more solid.

dubmill, Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:51 (sixteen years ago)

what does 'swinging' have to do with it - it's obviously supposed to move vertically not horizontally

I guess the way it's constructed is intentional but I just don't like the rhythmic effect. It sounds leaden too me. No bounce.

dubmill, Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:54 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i guess how it could be seen as leaden, but i think that just means your misconstruing the intent of the song. like i said i think it's basically a ballad - you don't dance to ballads. unless you're slow dancing, and i think you could slow dance to "electric feel"

also i think the bassline is pretty bouncy

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:56 (sixteen years ago)

It doesn't come across as a ballad (not the song but the arrangement). It's got this big heavy downbeat, 4 beats to the bar feel to it, which is what I don't like.

dubmill, Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:59 (sixteen years ago)

good for walking and high-fivin

rent, Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:59 (sixteen years ago)

Isn't "Electric Feel" around 100 bpm? A bit fast for a ballad, and the drums almost play a march. Beck doing "Road To Nowhere".

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 5 February 2009 22:05 (sixteen years ago)

14 - Aeroplane feat. Kathy Diamond - Whispers
158 points, 13 votes, 1 #1 vote
240 in P&J, 31 in p4k

What I love about them as original producers - the sense that on every single occasion they're consciously trying to make the most enjoyable record imaginable. And their ability to mix pop-disco and e-transcendence and that sense of wide-eyed wonder without ever really coming over as twee or cloying or annoying. Whispers is my favourite single of this year by several light years.
-Matt DC

miss precious perfect (musically), Thursday, 5 February 2009 22:10 (sixteen years ago)

Wow! I'd never heard that Aeroplane track. Really, really good. Well done everybody else!

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 5 February 2009 22:16 (sixteen years ago)

best song on the list so far

De Pussyclot Dolls (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 5 February 2009 22:17 (sixteen years ago)

that's very good. Lovely-looking video as well

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 February 2009 22:29 (sixteen years ago)

Hadn't heard this before tonight, may well have voted for it if I had. Based on their remixes for Friendly Fires and Grace Jones and this I think they'll have one of the albums of 2009 when it's released in the Autumn.

Shallow Gravy (Billy Dods), Thursday, 5 February 2009 22:39 (sixteen years ago)

It's got this big heavy downbeat, 4 beats to the bar feel to it, which is what I don't like.

― dubmill, Thursday, February 5, 2009 1:59 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Sry for pedantry, but most of the song is in 6/4 time.

the Nigga who killed reggaeton (The Reverend), Thursday, 5 February 2009 22:56 (sixteen years ago)

That was my #1 - I thought it might actually sneak into the Top 10 if the right people voted it high enough, but 14 isn't too bad at all :)

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:08 (sixteen years ago)

(Got a feeling the Friendly Fires song might be propelled quite high by a combination of original votes and remix votes, people seemed to keep nominating the remix at any rate)

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:09 (sixteen years ago)

Not so nuts about the Aeroplane there, the vox don't do a lot for me. She's no Roisin Murphy is she?

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:13 (sixteen years ago)

Well no she's not on Roisin's level, but she's a pretty good vocalist... you should check out her album Miss Diamond To You lots of great production by Maurice Fulton.

De Pussyclot Dolls (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:14 (sixteen years ago)

That version of Whispers isn't quite as good as the full six minute version but it gets the point across. Is that the real video? It works really well anyway.

I still need to hear that Kathy Diamond album.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:15 (sixteen years ago)

Matt tell me you've at least heard her "I Need You"...

Tim F, Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:16 (sixteen years ago)

Sry for pedantry, but most of the song is in 6/4 time

As soon as I posted about '4 beats to the bar' I knew you would pick up on that. But you know what I meant. Also, if you listen to the drums, what they play is indistinguishable from a 4/4 pattern. But yes, I SHOULD have said It's got this big heavy downbeat, 6 beats to the bar feel to it, which is what I don't like.

dubmill, Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:17 (sixteen years ago)

Tim, probably, we saw her play at Glastonbury. Unfortunately it was at 11am in the Guardian Lounge and most people were sitting in armchairs, hungover, reading the paper and drinking tea, so probably not the ideal setting.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:19 (sixteen years ago)

wow hadn't heard Whispers before. this is great.

gman, Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:21 (sixteen years ago)

13 - Cut Copy - Hearts On Fire
161.5 points, 16 votes
64 in P&J, 7 in p4k

It shouldn't work, but it does. A maximalist masterpiece: synth stabs; nice arpeggios; "It Takes Two"-ish samples; trance builds; cheesy sax; New Order high-octave bass outro. All it's missing is a hip-house verse warning of the dangers of actually setting your heart on fire.
― Shane Black-Macken

miss precious perfect (musically), Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:26 (sixteen years ago)

idgi

De Pussyclot Dolls (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:28 (sixteen years ago)

I love that one as well - it threatened to be overplayed all summer but never actually got there.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:30 (sixteen years ago)

hooray for aeroplane! although i think the cosmic jam remix of grace jones is better than theirs by some distance

all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:32 (sixteen years ago)

My favorite track on the Miss Diamond To You album is "Between the Lines". The multitracked vocals in the
chorus get me every time.

Dan S, Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:35 (sixteen years ago)

i have another aeroplane as my number 1.

kathy diamond's vocals seems to really divide people. i think she compliments both aeroplane and maurice fulton's music very well.

tricky, Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:40 (sixteen years ago)

I'm disappointed by that one (Cut Copy). The repeated line is such a cop-out - there are a couple of verses already, why not go for it a little bit more and turn it into a proper song? It's not manic or hypnotic enough to bear that amount of repetition. As it stands I'm switching off midway through, when it's a nice-sounding thing and deserves better

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:41 (sixteen years ago)

geez, seems = seem and compliment = complement

tricky, Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:46 (sixteen years ago)

are we going to see the top 10 today?

tricky, Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:48 (sixteen years ago)

Whoah, can't believe Kim & Jessie didn't finish top ten!

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:48 (sixteen years ago)

As soon as I posted about '4 beats to the bar' I knew you would pick up on that. But you know what I meant. Also, if you listen to the drums, what they play is indistinguishable from a 4/4 pattern. But yes, I SHOULD have said It's got this big heavy downbeat, 6 beats to the bar feel to it, which is what I don't like.

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― dubmill, Thursday, February 5, 2009 3:17 PM Bookmark

I should have added an "I feel you tho" to my pedantry

The Reverend, Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:50 (sixteen years ago)

no, top 10 is tomorrow, we'll get up to 11 today

miss precious perfect (musically), Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:55 (sixteen years ago)

that Aeroplane is A++ thank u all for voting it I needed to hear that

The Reverend, Friday, 6 February 2009 00:04 (sixteen years ago)

hearts on fire is the jam of all jams

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 00:06 (sixteen years ago)

it was cemented as my fav song from the album for a while but last night i thought that maybe "so haunted" is better

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 00:06 (sixteen years ago)

not a single vote for the hercules and love affair remix of "whispers" is interesting/perplexing. maybe it just wasn't nominated.

tricky, Friday, 6 February 2009 00:13 (sixteen years ago)

i think it's hard to beat the original, to be honest

Gukbe, Friday, 6 February 2009 00:14 (sixteen years ago)

Just checking back, that was my number 2 song, so I think I did my part to get it up there. Anyone know if that is an official video?

Gukbe, Friday, 6 February 2009 00:19 (sixteen years ago)

12 - Santogold - L.E.S. Artistes
171.5 points, 15 votes
6 in P&J, 4 in p4k

Holy shit is that "LES Artistes" song amazing. I don't hear M.I.A. there (more like a kind of recent Nelly Furtado over indie rock on that one); but I haven't heard any other Santogold songs yet. I can't stop playing "LES Artistes," though. It's just huge.
― Ben Boyerrr

miss precious perfect (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 00:34 (sixteen years ago)

x-post: With gukbe on this one: the H&LA remix is fantastic but the original of "Whispers" is sublime, and it would have been odd voting for both.

Tim F, Friday, 6 February 2009 00:35 (sixteen years ago)

lower than expected?

miss precious perfect (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 00:35 (sixteen years ago)

that grace jones track is good, i've been meaning to track down that album.

also, youtube embeds are a great addition to these threads. how did we live without them?

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 6 February 2009 00:39 (sixteen years ago)

L.E.S. Artistes was well lower than I expected. Should have guessed what with Lights Out not getting a shout, but I am surprised.

Gukbe, Friday, 6 February 2009 00:42 (sixteen years ago)

i heard the "whispers" remix before the original and that is what hooked me. i like the original, but the remix is more fun to play around with in a dj mix imo.

tricky, Friday, 6 February 2009 00:44 (sixteen years ago)

the youtube embeds really are a great addition.

tricky, Friday, 6 February 2009 00:45 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, without them i would have just thought "hey, a list i should check out (but most probably never will" and now i am actually spending time listening and enjoying and making an effort to actually get into this stuff.

. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 February 2009 00:47 (sixteen years ago)

yeah echoing youtube love over here

k3vin k., Friday, 6 February 2009 00:57 (sixteen years ago)

The Aeroplane Grace Jones and MGMT remixes are dope too. Will have to seek out more Aeroplane.

The Reverend, Friday, 6 February 2009 00:58 (sixteen years ago)

friendly fires remix to come as well then, obviously. It really has been the year of Aeroplane.

danzig, Friday, 6 February 2009 01:06 (sixteen years ago)

for some reason I'd managed to avoid hearing of them even tho I've been into quite a bit of similar stuff this year

The Reverend, Friday, 6 February 2009 01:09 (sixteen years ago)

before I post the last one for today, just something interesting about the top 10. In the past couple of years, this has been the 1-2 point breakdown:

2007

1. Rihanna - Umbrella (334 points)
2. Battles - Atlas (280 points)

2006

1. Gnarls Barkley – Crazy (240 points)
2. T.I. - What You Know (172.5 points)

Generally the first place song has beat the second place song by a significant margin. This year, however, the breakdown is:

1. 322.5
2. 314

A few other funky things are goin on with the top 10 but you'll find out about them tomorrow.

miss precious perfect (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 01:23 (sixteen years ago)

2. Battles - Atlas (280 points)

LOL.

De Pussyclot Dolls (The Brainwasher), Friday, 6 February 2009 01:30 (sixteen years ago)

what about it?

gman, Friday, 6 February 2009 01:31 (sixteen years ago)

srsly i was thinking this year wasn't that great but i'm really loving most of this list.

also lol i voted for both the original and aeroplane remix of Friendly Fires - really couldn't decide which one I liked more. I know most people prefers the remix (dreamy vocals, more bliss-out disco) but the original has that sublime breakdown at the end. I hope it does make it on the list but maybe everyone used up their aeroplane votes for the three that are already on here.

Disco/Very (Roz), Friday, 6 February 2009 01:48 (sixteen years ago)

Aeroplane were responsible for so many of my favourite tracks this year I didn't think twice re-using them. 8 of my list have already turned up. I'm pretty sure there is now way 8 of my other choices would be in the top 11, which leaves a possible 4 left.

Gukbe, Friday, 6 February 2009 01:59 (sixteen years ago)

re-using Aeroplane, not the same track several times, obv

Gukbe, Friday, 6 February 2009 02:00 (sixteen years ago)

I think Brainwasher is lolling at the fact that something that isn't powder-puff R&B/dancepop/chartfluff actually made it into the top 2 tbh

oh wait this is no-hatin' 09, shi-

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 02:01 (sixteen years ago)

last one for tonight:

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 02:02 (sixteen years ago)

11 - Portishead - Machine Gun
173 points, 16 votes, 1 #1 vote
11 in P&J, 9 in p4k

Machine Gun is the logical endpoint of their obsession with juxtaposing human frailty with mechanical coldness...The juxtaposition of the drums and the achingly pretty, almost folksy melody in Machine Gun is what makes it work so brilliantly.
- chap

The bit in the middle of Machine Gun when the sub-bass comes in, before the 80s synths, is spine-tingling - not sure if it'll really pick up on a video stream though. I love how inhuman it all sounds.
― Matt DC

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 02:03 (sixteen years ago)

wau

Gukbe, Friday, 6 February 2009 02:04 (sixteen years ago)

lower than expected?

Machine Gun top ten or not?

― Frank Sumatra (NickB), Thursday, February 5, 2009 12:22 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

top 5, I'd guess. Maybe even top 3, somewhere in very close proximity to "A Milli."

― Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Thursday, February 5, 2009 11:13 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 02:05 (sixteen years ago)

The year's most popular non-powder-puff R&B/dancepop/chartfluff song nicely tucked away at 11 there, clearing the way for yet another Poptimist Procession :)

(please let me be wrong)

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 02:07 (sixteen years ago)

I think "Machine Gun", "Closer", and "Bongo Jam" are my only votes that have shown up.

The Reverend, Friday, 6 February 2009 02:08 (sixteen years ago)

god forbid anyone like anything populist LJ

The Reverend, Friday, 6 February 2009 02:08 (sixteen years ago)

Haha! I know, 'tis the way of the world. It'd just be nice to see a bit more recognition for other types of music in these polls.

I think "Machine Gun" did quite well in my own ballot fwiw

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 02:10 (sixteen years ago)

Blind, Happy House, A Milli FITE

Disco/Very (Roz), Friday, 6 February 2009 02:19 (sixteen years ago)

+ time to pretend, paper planes

Doctor Casino, Friday, 6 February 2009 02:22 (sixteen years ago)

"Put On"? Not sure if anyone outside ringtone crew was hugely into that. Too bad we couldn't launch "Rollin'" into the top 50. :-/

The Reverend, Friday, 6 February 2009 02:26 (sixteen years ago)

oh, "American Boy" will be top 10 obv *shrug*

The Reverend, Friday, 6 February 2009 02:46 (sixteen years ago)

oh right. i thought it was already listed cause of all the talk upthread.

Disco/Very (Roz), Friday, 6 February 2009 02:52 (sixteen years ago)

nah, someone mentioned it and I kinda went off :-/

The Reverend, Friday, 6 February 2009 03:02 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i noticed. it was my number 2 btw. XD

Disco/Very (Roz), Friday, 6 February 2009 03:07 (sixteen years ago)

I haet u.

The Reverend, Friday, 6 February 2009 03:09 (sixteen years ago)

Or at least you've gone from a <3 to a <2.

The Reverend, Friday, 6 February 2009 03:10 (sixteen years ago)

;_;

Disco/Very (Roz), Friday, 6 February 2009 03:10 (sixteen years ago)

no, nothing against those that like the song XD

The Reverend, Friday, 6 February 2009 03:12 (sixteen years ago)

lol rev u are having a tough night homie

jammed hymen (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 February 2009 03:18 (sixteen years ago)

I know, right?

The Reverend, Friday, 6 February 2009 03:21 (sixteen years ago)

lower than expected?

Machine Gun top ten or not?

― Frank Sumatra (NickB), Thursday, February 5, 2009 12:22 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

top 5, I'd guess. Maybe even top 3, somewhere in very close proximity to "A Milli."

― Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Thursday, February 5, 2009 11:13 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

― lil waynes babymama (musically), Thursday, February 5, 2009 9:05 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

ack. shows what I know. It must've been that the "Machine Gun" love contingent on ILX was especially vocal. Great song, whatever the case.

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Friday, 6 February 2009 03:43 (sixteen years ago)

I'm sure the album will be top 5 tho.

The Reverend, Friday, 6 February 2009 03:44 (sixteen years ago)

Does anybody know if Lily Allen's "The Fear" was nominated? The "nominations" thread is making my browser crash, as soon as I open it... Anyway, I didn't get to vote this time but "The Fear" would've been my # 1.

daavid, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:02 (sixteen years ago)

2009 singles weren't eligible, so no.

danzig, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:09 (sixteen years ago)

Always makes me think of Best acronym in "F.E.A.R." by Ian Brown

Doctor Casino, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:16 (sixteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fear_(song)

Released December 9, 2008

???

daavid, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:34 (sixteen years ago)

OK, nevermind. That's wrong.

daavid, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:37 (sixteen years ago)

i just checked and it doesnt seem to be in the noms thread. i quite like "chinese" fwiw. bump lily's thread

jammed hymen (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 February 2009 04:37 (sixteen years ago)

The Fear was released digitally in December, released in physical form in January.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 February 2009 04:48 (sixteen years ago)

put on should be top 10...

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 04:59 (sixteen years ago)

holding out some hope for "love story" in the top 10, but i really have no idea how broad the taylor swift appreciation is in the electorate.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 6 February 2009 05:21 (sixteen years ago)

(but if it's not on the list at all, jeeeeez)

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 6 February 2009 05:22 (sixteen years ago)

I got into the Taylor Swift album like days after sending in my ballot :(

Maciej (maciej recognizing trill), Friday, 6 February 2009 05:23 (sixteen years ago)

I voted for "Love Story," for what it's worth.

ilxor, Friday, 6 February 2009 05:29 (sixteen years ago)

Do you not read this site?

― nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Thursday, February 5, 2009 8:11 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^my exact reaction to all the "omg i had never heard that song before" people in here. baffling.

lex pretend, Friday, 6 February 2009 05:47 (sixteen years ago)

But then you might be oblivious to some of the indier and classic rockish threads, eh, Lex? A board divided...

Cunga, Friday, 6 February 2009 05:54 (sixteen years ago)

People use ILM in different ways, I think. It's all good.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 6 February 2009 05:55 (sixteen years ago)

the theme of 20-11 seems to have been "i like this fine, but really, best of the year?" - the epitome of which is 'ready for the floor'. it's not bad but how little music must you have heard to even consider it in list-making time.

fussing over estelle's voice is the oddest path this thread has taken yet...though perhaps i've just been aware of how she sounds for ages, and how natural it is that someone w/her musical background would sound like that. it's about her casual airy swagger more than her technical chops - still think of her as an MC foremost, singer second.

i've never heard the aeroplane mgmt rmx! (not in position to now.) surely even they can't make it great, surely that is a sow's ear too far.

like 'love lockdown', glad we got it out of the way already. love aeroplane but hope that's it from them.

have resigned myself to the fact that 'i hate this part' isn't going to show up :((((

lex pretend, Friday, 6 February 2009 05:57 (sixteen years ago)

1. Gnarls Barkley – Crazy (240 points)
2. T.I. - What You Know (172.5 points)

i'd forgotten this happened. idiot ilm!!!

lex pretend, Friday, 6 February 2009 05:59 (sixteen years ago)

knock 'em dead lex

The Reverend, Friday, 6 February 2009 06:08 (sixteen years ago)

"Electric Feel" by MGMT is the second best song they have done and i expect ILM to place "Time To Pretend" in the top 7. i love Cut Copy and Portishead was my favorite album from last year.

Bee OK, Friday, 6 February 2009 06:59 (sixteen years ago)

"skinny love" in the top 10, perhaps?

danzig, Friday, 6 February 2009 07:27 (sixteen years ago)

A+ job, musicallllly!!!

I became obsessed with "Put On" in time for this poll!

Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Friday, 6 February 2009 08:56 (sixteen years ago)

it's not bad but how little music must you have heard to even consider it in list-making time.

Dude that's a bit condescending. I voted for Ready For The Floor (fairly low, like around #18 or #20), but that 11-20 section does contain some of my favourite records of the year.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 09:30 (sixteen years ago)

Actually I've just checked and I didn't vote for Ready For The Floor at all, but in a different mood I might have. Actually the vast majority of tracks I voted for didn't make the poll (like 17 of them) unless Trompeta or Calabria 2008 somehow manage to defy all logic and crash into the Top 10, but I'm not complaining about it. I mean, it's fairly obvious why most of these tracks are placing here - that's how consensus polls work and what you never seem to understand. Bongo Jam at #44 is enough for me really.

What with Single Ladies placing so low, is it possible that Britney might miss out on the Top 50 altogether?

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 09:42 (sixteen years ago)

Not sure if that's a rhetorical question, but I was under the assumption that the new Britney isn't particularly well liked, even by her fanbase.

The Reverend, Friday, 6 February 2009 09:47 (sixteen years ago)

Impression, rather than assumption. Poor choice of words.

The Reverend, Friday, 6 February 2009 09:47 (sixteen years ago)

Matt was there really a "Calabria 2008" or do you mean "Calabria 2007"? I'd approve if there was such a thing: that tune should be rereleased every year.

Tim F, Friday, 6 February 2009 09:49 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah and Circus wasn't even on the album noms list. "Piece of Me" might make a surprise entry tho but I doubt it. xp

Disco/Very (Roz), Friday, 6 February 2009 09:50 (sixteen years ago)

Tim - I don't know, I'm talking about the funky house version which I thought was from this year. Someone nominated it anyway so I voted for it, it may have actually been ineligible.

Also going back to my earlier point, this being ILM, individual lists are going to be more varied and esoteric than elsewhere, so areas of overlap are going to be fewer and smaller. Only 16 people voted for the #11 pick!

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 09:53 (sixteen years ago)

Maybe there was a funky house version, I haven't heard if so. The version I'm thinking of is just the dancehall-ish beat and a female MC chanting hypnotically. Apparently she died in a car crash? Sad if so.

Irritatingly the only version you hear on the radio here is the bootleg with Crystal Waters' "Destination Unknown", which turns the whole thing into regulation commercial radio house.

Tim F, Friday, 6 February 2009 09:58 (sixteen years ago)

"Calabria 2007" and Calabria 2008" are the same record. They retitled it when it began taking off in the states early last year.

The Reverend, Friday, 6 February 2009 09:59 (sixteen years ago)

And yeah, Natasja died in a car accident. Awful.

The Reverend, Friday, 6 February 2009 10:01 (sixteen years ago)

:( That's terrible. I didn't hear it until this year (on a funky house comp funnily enough - it fits right in) but it was pretty much my favourite vocal performance, especially the "whoop whoop" bits.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 10:07 (sixteen years ago)

not to be a dick but it takes a special kind of white person to make a beat as inept as the one in 'ready for the floor.'

― call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:52 (Yesterday)

totally fucking retarded post

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Friday, 6 February 2009 11:36 (sixteen years ago)

I think I was Blackout's #1 cheerleader on ILM last year, but I can't really get enthusiastic about Circus.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 February 2009 11:38 (sixteen years ago)

Not to beat this particular point into the ground, but I'd be pretty disappointed if Forever didn't make the top 10

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 February 2009 11:40 (sixteen years ago)

so...4 of my ballot have placed so far, can expect 2-3 more ('a milli', 'put on', maybe 'do you mind' or 'shawty get loose'). i guess it's a mark of how far removed ilx has become from dubstep that 'gully brook lane' (which is just a HUGE track within the genre) won't place.

'forever' won't place either, though if any chris brown deserves to it's 'with you'.

worst thing about these lists is realising how tiny one's niche actually is...like, the consensus hip-hop, r&b and uk garage tracks losing out to crap like mgmt and deerhunter. the confirmation that most people are happy to dabble in those waters but always run back to pfork indie. hip-hop and r&b should not be fucking niche genres ffs.

lex pretend, Friday, 6 February 2009 14:14 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.roflcat.com/images/cats/emo.jpg

caek, Friday, 6 February 2009 14:15 (sixteen years ago)

you are so hilarious

lex pretend, Friday, 6 February 2009 14:19 (sixteen years ago)

did dubstep ever fare well in ILM EOY polls?

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Friday, 6 February 2009 14:30 (sixteen years ago)

ILX has never had much of a connection to dubstep, the first few dubstep threads on ILM are mostly people comparing it unfavourably to UK garage or more often grime. Or just going "dubstep is fucking boring" which I believe you did Lex at one point. It's a minority concern in any case.

the consensus hip-hop, r&b and uk garage tracks losing out to crap like mgmt and deerhunter. the confirmation that most people are happy to dabble in those waters but always run back to pfork indie. hip-hop and r&b should not be fucking niche genres ffs.

Pretty sure that the top five will be dominated by hip-hop if I'm honest, and THAT'S THE BIT THAT MATTERS. The very (screamingly obvious) point I'm trying to make is that these polls only ever highlight areas of OVERLAP between a whole wealth of disparate tastes and disparate lists. Whereas you're second guessing everyone's individual lists from the overall shape of the poll (where your input is the same as everyone else's).

The big problem with consensus polls has always been that the interesting bits of everyone's tastes disappear and coalesce round focal points. That said there are 10 or 11 hip-hop and rnb tracks in this list already (that's A FUCKING QUARTER OF THE LIST) so I don't really get what you're whingeing about.

(Incidentally that's not even getting into the issue of Consensus Indie existing, which excludes a lot of the indie I enjoyed this year)

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 14:45 (sixteen years ago)

(I mean, it could be worse, you could be a metal, folk or country fan and have no representation in the list at all, and all three are less of a niche concern than dubstep)

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 14:50 (sixteen years ago)

Matt DC bringing some hardcore truth here.

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 14:53 (sixteen years ago)

yeah there was actually a separate metal poll because it's seen as so niche and isolated

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Friday, 6 February 2009 14:58 (sixteen years ago)

Jeezy gotta be on this list

Conti Rice (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 6 February 2009 14:58 (sixteen years ago)

"Calabria 2007" and Calabria 2008" are the same record.

aye. i nominated and voted for the '08 title because i didn't hear it til sometime this year. (one of those things i discovered on mun2, bless its heart.) and r.i.p. natasja.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 6 February 2009 14:59 (sixteen years ago)

ILX has never had much of a connection to dubstep

for all i know this may be true but it's still funny to me because i probably wouldn't even know the phrase 'dubstep' if not for this board. still don't know what it means, actually.

some dude, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:01 (sixteen years ago)

Think Jeezy will either get two in the top ten or nothing at all. I can't imagine Put On and My President both not placing. Really surprised he hasn't showed up already actually.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 15:04 (sixteen years ago)

Maybe the vote's just been spread thinly between the four tracks nominated :(

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 15:04 (sixteen years ago)

I didn't want to split the Jeezy vote so I went for both Circulate and Put On. No My President though, I didn't have enough space for all three. Sorry Jeezy :(

. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 February 2009 15:06 (sixteen years ago)

yeah I think the top 10's gonna be flooded with the big summer hiphop jams (as it should be, fukk this Ting Tings bullshit)

Conti Rice (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 6 February 2009 15:06 (sixteen years ago)

for all i know this may be true but it's still funny to me because i probably wouldn't even know the phrase 'dubstep' if not for this board. still don't know what it means, actually.

it's urban music for animal collective fans

caek, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:06 (sixteen years ago)

Maybe there'll be five Bon Iver tracks in there.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 15:07 (sixteen years ago)

The top ten tracks will all be "Love Story" by Taylor Swift.

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Friday, 6 February 2009 15:09 (sixteen years ago)

not to be a dick but it takes a special kind of white person to make a beat as inept as the one in 'ready for the floor.'

― call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:52 (Yesterday)

totally fucking retarded post

― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Friday, February 6, 2009 6:36 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

ummm yah sorry couldn't resist cheap jokes.

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:11 (sixteen years ago)

hey an argument about if theres more indie than rap on ilm

and what, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:12 (sixteen years ago)

ummm yah sorry couldn't resist cheap jokes

i over-reacted. but really, the beat isn't that bad lol.

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Friday, 6 February 2009 15:17 (sixteen years ago)

not to be a dick but it takes a special kind of white person to make a beat as inept as the one in 'ready for the floor.'

― call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:52 (Yesterday)

ha i second this post

lex pretend, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:24 (sixteen years ago)

if 2 jeezy trax place, the 2nd will surely be 'circulate' rather than 'my president'

lex pretend, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:25 (sixteen years ago)

it was already seconded

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Friday, 6 February 2009 15:30 (sixteen years ago)

yeah I think the top 10's gonna be flooded with the big summer hiphop jams (as it should be, fukk this Ting Tings bullshit)

― Conti Rice (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, February 6, 2009 10:06 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

nah, i seriously doubt this. "American Boy" and "A Milli" definitely, maaaaybe "Put On" and/or "With You" and/or "Can't Believe It" or something left-field like Solange, but otherwise i don't see much big radio stuff on the nominations list that I think stands a chance of being in the top 10.

some dude, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:37 (sixteen years ago)

hey an argument about if theres more indie than rap on ilm

indie and rap bedwetters of the world, unite.

whatever, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:49 (sixteen years ago)

princes is gonna be top ten right?

rent, Friday, 6 February 2009 16:24 (sixteen years ago)

now that is an inept beat (still like it)

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Friday, 6 February 2009 16:52 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.garysturt.free-online.co.uk/baron.htm

^^^this thread

Limoncello Carlin (The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:08 (sixteen years ago)

lol autism

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:09 (sixteen years ago)

I'm being serious!

Limoncello Carlin (The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:10 (sixteen years ago)

The Baron-Cohen studies fascinated me as a teenager probably more than any other non-Zimbardo experiment. I think the Sally doll tests pretty much sum up this thread.

Limoncello Carlin (The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:10 (sixteen years ago)

we lol at the last.fm thread, but at least they're interested in other people's opinions rather than distressed by their existence

caek, Friday, 6 February 2009 17:11 (sixteen years ago)

Rolling last.fm thread 2009 no haters!

how can they keep this up for months and months?

― caek, Friday, February 6, 2009 3:19 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Mordy, Friday, 6 February 2009 17:13 (sixteen years ago)

I think this is what it is. People have contrived this entire worldview like the children in these tests, where evidence ceases to matter and they can only picture a world in which, for instance, dubstep is more popular than MGMT.

xp

Limoncello Carlin (The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:14 (sixteen years ago)

Or, looking at it another way, they create two beings: "themselves" and "the other", but cannot identify or empathise with "the other".

Limoncello Carlin (The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:15 (sixteen years ago)

i wonder exactly who you could be talking about

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:16 (sixteen years ago)

omigod you guys i'm going to start the top 10 in just a few minutes!!!!!1

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:20 (sixteen years ago)

I mean, taking this a step further, a lot of these concerns are thrown onto a lack of dubstep or r&b, two genres that it could be fair to say eschew emotional concerns in favour of more... concreteness? Does that tie into all this? The autistic mind has less "emotion centres" (Anaral, 2006). Does this tie in to a theory or am I just looking for patterns in roulette numbers?

Limoncello Carlin (The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:20 (sixteen years ago)

*(Amaral, 2006), sorry.

Limoncello Carlin (The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:21 (sixteen years ago)

Alternatively, Nisbett (1973) suggests these behaviours are common _across_ society: we view our own feelings and opinions through a much more complex glass than we do those of others.

http://www.garysturt.free-online.co.uk/nisbett.htm

Limoncello Carlin (The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:22 (sixteen years ago)

How the hell is it fair to say that R&B eschews emotional concerns in favor of more concreteness?

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:23 (sixteen years ago)

You do realise it doesn't matter because it isn't actually a serious argument?

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:24 (sixteen years ago)

well, yeah

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:26 (sixteen years ago)

i for one look forward to dom's EMP proposal about why the lex is a tard

some dude, Friday, 6 February 2009 17:26 (sixteen years ago)

This is why I paused before writing that post, so let me clarify: I think in R&B, and I'm willing to take my lumps on this if so be, always places a barrier between the artist and the song, vis a vis: you admire the artist for their technical performance, and then you admire the song for its emotion. I'm especially thinking of the major players here, yr Careys, yr Beyonces, etc, it may be slightly different when we start moving from mainstream R&B down to neo-soul and the like, but a lot of R&B vocal performances always made me feel like hair metal guitar solos: powerful, impressive, but ultimately disconnected from the rest of the song. Put it this way: do you ever come away from an R&B track with that whole "man, they're really going through the wringer singing this"? I mean, even compared to a Kelly Clarkson or whoever.

xxxp

Limoncello Carlin (The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:27 (sixteen years ago)

I know I may be saying "I don't find this emotionally affecting and therefore it isn't" and thus invalidating all my arguments upthread, but maybe not.

Limoncello Carlin (The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:27 (sixteen years ago)

Christ you are inane.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:28 (sixteen years ago)

haha

caek, Friday, 6 February 2009 17:31 (sixteen years ago)

You're conflating good singers singing crappy songs with an entire genre being about privileging technical chops over performance. There are about a bazillion R&B tracks that have that type of emotional wringer moment; I mean I can't stand her but pretty much everything Keyshia Cole does rests squarely on this idea, as well as pretty much every single Whitney Houston song, most of Beyonce's ballads (particularly "Dangerously In Love" and "Flaws And All"), most of Mariah's ballads (particularly "Vision Of Love" and "Hero") etc etc etc.

I mean seriously, given the heavy gospel and blues influence behind R&B, saying it's about technical perfection over emotional performance is quite possibly the single most uninformed thing you could say about it; if you want to complain about how ProTooling away imperfection has caused recorded R&B to sound more distant, you've got a much more compelling starting point to talk from.

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:33 (sixteen years ago)

ok musically now please

rent, Friday, 6 February 2009 17:37 (sixteen years ago)

i would hate to interrupt this discussion tho

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:49 (sixteen years ago)

Put it this way: do you ever come away from an R&B track with that whole "man, they're really going through the wringer singing this"?

With Beyonce in particular: absolutely. Although there's also the sense that I'm witnessing some extraordinary conjuring trick that she's playing on her own emotions; she's at once totally within the performance, and yet also somehow outside of it.

mike t-diva, Friday, 6 February 2009 17:51 (sixteen years ago)

no please go ahead

rent, Friday, 6 February 2009 17:54 (sixteen years ago)

10 - Young Jeezy Ft. Kanye West - Put On
174.5 points, 15 votes
22 in P&J, 67 in p4k

i'm kinda still trying to figure out why i like this song so much. even tho both of jeezy's verses are pretty great ("call me jeezy hamilton", "inside fish sticks/outside tartar sauce" [this whole inside/out thing is already played but i like this one] etc.) the song is still pretty rote as far as his songs go. im sure this well get me clowned from now until forever, but kanye's verse might be my favorite rap verse of the year. typical mix of great lines and shitty ones but the autotune works so well in this context for him. this one's been a real grower for me and might end up as one of my fav singles of the year and, along with some other verses that jeezy's spit this year (most notably completely murdering the "dey know" remix) kinda restored faith that he might have another good album left in him.
- J0rdan S

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:55 (sixteen years ago)

whoever said that Kanye's verse on this was 808's condensed to greatness was right.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:59 (sixteen years ago)

With Beyonce in particular: absolutely. Although there's also the sense that I'm witnessing some extraordinary conjuring trick that she's playing on her own emotions; she's at once totally within the performance, and yet also somehow outside of it.

― mike t-diva, Friday, February 6, 2009 6:51 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

not sure what this means tbh

special guest stars mark bronson, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:01 (sixteen years ago)

"call me jeezy hamilton" is the wrong line to quote in the plus column

some dude, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:01 (sixteen years ago)

oh shit, here we go..

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:06 (sixteen years ago)

not sure what this means tbh

me neither but i am putting it down to me not really being that interested in the specifics of beyonce's vocal skills (hence me liking and caring far more about her bangers than her ballads)

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:08 (sixteen years ago)

This record is terrific and all and Kanye's verse SOUNDS great but at the same time so whiney and entitled and emotionally immature it reminds me why I've never been able to get more than two tracks into 808s.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:10 (sixteen years ago)

i love 808s And Heartbreak but have steered clear of The Recession so far

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:11 (sixteen years ago)

there go all my hopes for house and techno sweeping the top ten ;)

tricky, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:12 (sixteen years ago)

"call me jeezy hamilton" is the wrong line to quote in the plus column

― some dude, Friday, February 6, 2009 12:01 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

i wrote that after listening to the song maybe three times - i still think it's a good line tho

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:15 (sixteen years ago)

you guys do realize that Dom and buddies are just bored shitless and trolling, right.

xps

(a mess0 (Ioannis), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:21 (sixteen years ago)

naw i'm pretty sure no one here gets how dom operates.

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:23 (sixteen years ago)

tru dat

(a mess0 (Ioannis), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:27 (sixteen years ago)

"bored shitless and trolling"

the board has a new description!!

tricky, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:27 (sixteen years ago)

good observations one and all

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:31 (sixteen years ago)

"jeezy hamilton" is definitely one of the more memorable lines, but it's still just one of those kind of eye-rollingly dumb non-punchlines that jeezy does that i sometimes like but usually tolerate. plus i hate they way he switches up at the last second to the clean/Charlene rhyme when every other line of the verse has a differend end-rhyme, it's the kinda lazy MC shit that really bothered me about his 2nd album that he'd mostly stopped doing on The Recession. that's totally just nitpicking, though, still a dope song.

some dude, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:34 (sixteen years ago)

9 - Wiley - Wearing My Rolex
187.5 points, 16 votes, 1 #1 vote
111 in P&J, 17 in p4k

yeah, the "is it not featuring" query/vibe seems key to this one. pleasing irony in the fact that he feels more like a proper hungry rapper on this than say, the tunnel vision best-of 2cd; you're more than happy to trade all of the smart lines in that, cosy in their wileyness, for "usually DRINK usually DANCE usually BUBBLE." usually! i love how between this and 'i'm going out' grime's still staking out a surly little realist conscience whilst making its tentative steps back towards the dancefloor.
― r|t|c

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:43 (sixteen years ago)

lower than expected?

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:43 (sixteen years ago)

btw if you are a fan of Wearing my Rolex then this mix of the sample source is a must-listen:

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:44 (sixteen years ago)

i feel like ilm consensus stuff is gonna get beat out by lurkers voting in bon iver

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:44 (sixteen years ago)

and im not using bon iver as a strawman either - im pretty sure every song from his album was nominated

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:45 (sixteen years ago)

is that in response to wearing my rolex? because this was a lock for the top 10 IMO

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:48 (sixteen years ago)

ya i figured it would be top 5, tho i guess that's only a matter of a few votes

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:48 (sixteen years ago)

I think Put On was why I was so disappointed with 808. I wanted 10 Put On's, that were hardcore beats but with kanye doing the autotune crazy on the top and instead it was just an album of soft, poppy beats that didn't have the same punch. Maybe I should give it another try.

. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:49 (sixteen years ago)

comparing kanye's verse on "put on" to his stuff on 808s (except "i'm amazing" i guess) is a really misguided idea - what makes kanye's verse on "put on" great is how they build up to it as well as the dichotomy b/w jeezy's style and kanye's. they both go for the same emotiond - i wanna say hurt but resilient - but jeezy looks outward with chest-thumping - "i put on for my city" and kanye looks inward - "i feel like there's still niggas that owe me checks" - with autotuned emoness. you couldn't have a whole album of kanye rapping thru autotune over drumma boy beats.

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:53 (sixteen years ago)

I know, but misguided expectations yadda yadda, what i actually want yadda yadda, what actually happened etc.

. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:54 (sixteen years ago)

8 - MGMT - Time To Pretend
203 points, 15 votes, 3 #1 votes
4 in P&J, 30 in p4k

Who knew corny indie rawkers could pack such a strong punch? The song reminds me of Eric Hoffer's terrific mid-70s essay on what adolescence means in the post-sixties world. He said that the sixties destroyed countless social axioms but that one of the few axioms it built to replace all the old ones it destroyed was that "the meaning of life is to have fun." Such a concept may as well be Rock N Roll's own campaign slogan and in "Time to Pretend" the idea of life being nothing more than a long carnival ride is lightly parodied. But people seem to be so latently ready to live for something other than their own hedonistic pleasures that a song that pokes fun at the lifestyle, however lightly, feels, to some people, to be nothing less than Swiftian. The empty calories from years of hedonism is the other side of the euphoria we saw at Obama rallies; people, especially young people, ready to dedicate their lives to something, anything, to give it greater meaning.

The other thing Hoffer mentioned was that being a kid in the post-sixties Western world meant that you were simultaneously and unprecedentedly sheltered AND jaded to the world's pleasures and sins. You had it easier and lived more of a care-free life than almost every previous generation in memory, and yet you were also growing up in a world where the institutions and concepts that shielded and comforted previous generations (like religion, the family unit, the community, social and sexual taboos, etc.) were constantly being eroded and wouldn't be there to protect you from the Big Bad World.

"Time to Pretend" works so well because it captures that dichotomy of living in a socially relaxed and technologically advanced age that seems to get more and more primitive and meaningless with every year. As it turns out the pampered and well-off children of the Western world were also victims of a world where disintegrating values left them out in the cold with nowhere to go but inwards, into the world of solipsism and status updates.
-cunga

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:55 (sixteen years ago)

So 'Kim & Jessie' is heading for a top five position? Nice!

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:56 (sixteen years ago)

Sorry to disappoint, but Kim & Jessie was #18

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:58 (sixteen years ago)

Ugh..

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 6 February 2009 19:00 (sixteen years ago)

Poll would make more sense if "Time to Pretend" and "Kim and Jessie" were to switch positions.

ilxor, Friday, 6 February 2009 19:15 (sixteen years ago)

My least favourite of the three mgmt tracks, but I like cunga's write-up

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 February 2009 19:16 (sixteen years ago)

7 - Lil Wayne - A Milli
203.5 points, 19 votes, 1 #1 vote
5 in P&J, 14 in p4k

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 19:37 (sixteen years ago)

haw

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Friday, 6 February 2009 19:38 (sixteen years ago)

interesting

Gukbe, Friday, 6 February 2009 19:41 (sixteen years ago)

the plot thickens.....

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 19:44 (sixteen years ago)

lol-vote top 5?

(a mess0 (Ioannis), Friday, 6 February 2009 19:44 (sixteen years ago)

I have to say that "A Milli" is basically the only Lil Wayne joint I ever want to hear. It's fucking TOUGH.

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Friday, 6 February 2009 19:45 (sixteen years ago)

so blind and american boy are left

and hi dere OTM

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 19:45 (sixteen years ago)

It's fucking TOUGHer than nigerian hair

some dude, Friday, 6 February 2009 19:50 (sixteen years ago)

Is "Blind" going to be #1?

Dan S, Friday, 6 February 2009 19:50 (sixteen years ago)

happy house must be somewhere.

Gukbe, Friday, 6 February 2009 19:51 (sixteen years ago)

What about "Paris". Is it going to make it?

daavid, Friday, 6 February 2009 19:53 (sixteen years ago)

lol, wait a few hours

jammed hymen (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 February 2009 19:54 (sixteen years ago)

also, oxford comma?

Gukbe, Friday, 6 February 2009 19:54 (sixteen years ago)

Happy House will be number 1.

Snowballing, Friday, 6 February 2009 19:59 (sixteen years ago)

lord willin'

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:01 (sixteen years ago)

Uh, ELEPHANT IN ROOM that you're all missing...

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:18 (sixteen years ago)

rollin rollin rollin we ain't slept in weeks

all my single lobsters put a ring on it (tpp), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:20 (sixteen years ago)

Although basically I've called the top five completely wrong as almost everything has already placed so American Boy and Blind will probably be the next two. I can't possibly imagine Paris, great as it is, placing above this lot. I dunno, is there a huge ILM following for If I Were A Boy or Bleeding Love?

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:21 (sixteen years ago)

Uh, ELEPHANT IN ROOM that you're all missing... - Hercules, amirite

I hope "Eraser" makes the list.

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:23 (sixteen years ago)

I'm thinking that The Chap's "Proper Rock" has gleaned about 20 lurker votes. Or maybe Volcano's "Palimpsests".

Oh wait. Well, one of my noms made top 50, I'm happy :D

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:24 (sixteen years ago)

this next one i believe everyone will agree on:

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:24 (sixteen years ago)

Should have posted this further upthread but I only found it now. I wish the cellist was better.

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:25 (sixteen years ago)

There's no way "If I Were a Boy" would place above "Single Ladies" and there isn't much of a following for "Bleeding Love".

I don't think it's gonna happen, but I would be ELATED if "Rollin'" placed in the top 6. The likelihood of a niche rap dude track, even one as loved by ILM's rap contingent as that, placing above something as universally well-known and lauded as "A Milli" seems miniscule.

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:26 (sixteen years ago)

6 - Estelle Feat. Kanye West - American Boy
209.5 points, 19 votes, 1 #1 vote
2 in P&J, 10 in p4k

How good is 'American Boy' by Estelle?

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:26 (sixteen years ago)

lol

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:26 (sixteen years ago)

nevermind, missed this: Is "Blind" going to be #1?

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:27 (sixteen years ago)

lol again

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:27 (sixteen years ago)

top 5:

"Blind"
"Happy House"
???
????
?????

not sure if enough would have voted for "Paper Planes" this year to place it, totally at a loss for the other 2-3

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:29 (sixteen years ago)

This list has more suspense than any movie I saw last year...

Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 February 2009 20:30 (sixteen years ago)

So is "Put On" going to be the highest placer w/o a #1 vote?

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:31 (sixteen years ago)

Blind, Happy House, Paper Planes, Oxford Comma, If I Were A Boy?

mike t-diva, Friday, 6 February 2009 20:32 (sixteen years ago)

damn that l.e.s. artistes cover is dope dope dope

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:32 (sixteen years ago)

guys there is gonna be a bon iver track in the top 5 probably 3. every single one of his songs was nominated

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:33 (sixteen years ago)

No way on "If I Were a Boy". I mean, the Beyonce single people actually LIKED only placed in the middle of the list.

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:33 (sixteen years ago)

btw i mean there is gonna be a bon iver in the top 5 probably top 3, not 3 bon iver tracks in the top 5

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:33 (sixteen years ago)

paris maybe? b/c of the remix

no bon iver i bet, b/c of vote splitting

rent, Friday, 6 February 2009 20:34 (sixteen years ago)

I'd be so happy if the Bon Iver vote fragmented so much that nothing of his placed.

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:35 (sixteen years ago)

What is "Paris"?

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:35 (sixteen years ago)

skinny love is gonna be in the top 5 dudes

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:35 (sixteen years ago)

paris is a song by friendly fires, but it has an aeroplane rmx

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:35 (sixteen years ago)

So is "Put On" going to be the highest placer w/o a #1 vote?

no

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:36 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, way too big a probability of Bon Iver vote splitting.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 February 2009 20:36 (sixteen years ago)

Did any UK mcs ever do a remix of American Boy? And more importantly, is that Julio 'The Beast' Baptista at the end of the video?

I have to say I love that I can't tell what the top 5 is going to be like.

. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:36 (sixteen years ago)

I think I've been conflating the name Friendly Fires with Fiery Furnaces each time I see it and thus ignoring it. Are they an electronic act (seems to be from what I'm gathering)?

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:37 (sixteen years ago)

Another "L.E.S. Artistes" remix set to the video. imo pretty dope (but not as dope as the piano/cello version)

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:38 (sixteen years ago)

What is "Paris"?

― The Reverend (rev), Friday, February 6, 2009 3:35 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^ I have to hold myself back from asking qns like this 90% of the time a song title is casually referred to in this thread with no mention of the artist

some dude, Friday, 6 February 2009 20:39 (sixteen years ago)

nah not really, basically british dance rock but instead of taking cues from post-punk they go more the spaciousness and euphoria of disco and house

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:39 (sixteen years ago)

I kinda hate the "L.E.S. Artistes" video. :-/ Not the song, which is alright, just the vid.

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:39 (sixteen years ago)

Friendly Fires are kind of a hybrid dancepunk/electronic act...like The Rapture with sequencers (and a sometimes shoegaze atmospheric fetish).

Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 February 2009 20:40 (sixteen years ago)

I think I've been conflating the name Friendly Fires with Fiery Furnaces each time I see it and thus ignoring it.

ffs Rev ;-)

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:40 (sixteen years ago)

waht, I love that video, esp. the closeups of the screaming at the end

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:41 (sixteen years ago)

Shit, people didn't vote for another TVotR song did they?

Maciej (maciej recognizing trill), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:41 (sixteen years ago)

Thanks, Jordan/Johnny.

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:41 (sixteen years ago)

you know, i am glad that i am not going to be around for this top 5. i don't know what's going to be in it, in a bad way. who the hell are all these bon iver fans anyway.

also no offense but:

"Time to Pretend" works so well because it captures that dichotomy of living in a socially relaxed and technologically advanced age that seems to get more and more primitive and meaningless with every year

is totally o_0

affected ennui, one repeated basic hook and a rubbish indie-dance arrangement capture nothing about anything

i have a plane to catch! bye y'all!!

lex pretend, Friday, 6 February 2009 20:41 (sixteen years ago)

I suppose "Golden Age" could be in the top 5.

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:42 (sixteen years ago)

Maybe Womanizer is going to chart after all... TVOTR is more likely than Bon Iver I'd say.

(Like I said earlier if Paris charts it'll be a combination of Aeroplane remix and the original both separately doing well - someone voted for that song twice ffs)

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:42 (sixteen years ago)

I'd guess from looking at the noms we can expect Blind, Paper Planes for certain. Other three: Bleeding Love, Oxford Comma, If I Were a Boy, Paris, could be anything really.

Shallow Gravy (Billy Dods), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:42 (sixteen years ago)

Kings Of Leon at no1? rofl

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:43 (sixteen years ago)

"bleeding love"? are you guys kidding? was that even nominated

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:43 (sixteen years ago)

THIS SEX IS ON FIRE

Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 February 2009 20:43 (sixteen years ago)

Blind, Happy House, Paper Planes, Oxford Comma, If I Were A Boy?

― mike t-diva, Friday, February 6, 2009 3:32 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Did ILXors vote for "Paper Planes?" I would find it hard to believe, since you all were prescient enough to vote it into the top 5 last year, and there doesn't seem to be that much turnover in this joint.

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:43 (sixteen years ago)

guys there is gonna be a bon iver track in the top 5 probably 3. every single one of his songs was nominated

― your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.)

not a chance. the same dude nominated every track, if memory serves

jammed hymen (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:43 (sixteen years ago)

If Kings of Leon make the top five I would like to volunteer to throw a tantrum in the Lex's place.

I'm sort of hoping there's been a massive secret metal block vote or something. That would at least be funny.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:44 (sixteen years ago)

also i think i agree with what LJ was implying

jammed hymen (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:44 (sixteen years ago)

I nominated "Bleeding Love" and will be kind of shocked if it isn't there tbh

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:44 (sixteen years ago)

I'll give you one (non) clue about the next track: it has not been mentioned once in this entire thread.

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:44 (sixteen years ago)

rather, i agree with what i think LJ was implying

jammed hymen (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:44 (sixteen years ago)

Courtship Dating to sneak in cos everyone had it at number 15 or something? I forget whether or not those guys are hated or not on ILX.

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:44 (sixteen years ago)

is it los campesinos

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:45 (sixteen years ago)

I wish it was Torche

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:45 (sixteen years ago)

"Happy House" will be in the top 5. This is a given. I don't see why anyone thinks "If I Were a Boy" or "Bleeding Love" have a chance in hell.

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:45 (sixteen years ago)

maybe my first placing for guilty simpson will pay off ;)

. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:45 (sixteen years ago)

haha nice

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:46 (sixteen years ago)

Bleeding Love is horrid. Worse than American Boy.
Btw I hadn't heard that Young Jeezy track and it's terrific. Thanks ILM!

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:47 (sixteen years ago)

Maybe voting coincided with the inauguration and a load of people went straight back and voted soppily for My President.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:48 (sixteen years ago)

Bleeding Love is horrid. Worse than American Boy.

Doesn't do much for me either, but I thought it was generally quite well liked.

Shallow Gravy (Billy Dods), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:48 (sixteen years ago)

Maybe voting coincided with the inauguration and a load of people went straight back and voted soppily for My President.

that would be... unfortunate

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:48 (sixteen years ago)

I'm amazed - I was sure 'American Boy' was a shoo-in for no.1. First time I've heard it for a while, still a great record

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 February 2009 20:49 (sixteen years ago)

Maybe my #1 vote for "Love in This Club" somehow convinced all the haters, haha.

Maciej (maciej recognizing trill), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:49 (sixteen years ago)

Kevin K I've come round a bit to "Skeletal Lamping" again...it's a good album to listen to as a whole, but trying to "get" individual tracks is imo maddening and pointless :)

(and yeah, The Fiery Furnaces are mad underrated here)

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:50 (sixteen years ago)

really miffed "princes" (GANG GANG DANCE) has been passed over

rent, Friday, 6 February 2009 20:53 (sixteen years ago)

...if it has been

rent, Friday, 6 February 2009 20:53 (sixteen years ago)

haha good :) that's just what i tell people, i think if a record gives you an 'in' song that you can learn to love, it'll be easier to let your guard down and really engage with the rest of it. that was the first ninety seconds of the album and 'an eluardian instance' for me. but we can talk more about it next week if, lord willin', it places

jammed hymen (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:54 (sixteen years ago)

xpost i would be down for 'princes'; i didnt get into the record until just recently, and princes is fantastic

jammed hymen (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:55 (sixteen years ago)

prev post was xpost to LJ btw

jammed hymen (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:55 (sixteen years ago)

I think what makes me enjoy the album is that I really like plenty of the little bits, and plenty of the transitions between bits. I almost try to forget that it's made of songs, UNLIKE, say, The Fiery Furnaces' albums, whose songs, no matter how complicated, almost always have some sort of decipherable and hermetic narrative.

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:58 (sixteen years ago)

What about "Swagger Like Us," is that gonna place?

ilxor, Friday, 6 February 2009 20:58 (sixteen years ago)

there is no way more people voted for slu than a milli or put on.

. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:59 (sixteen years ago)

Top five:

Happy House
Paper Planes
Blind
Swagger Like Us
Love Story

ilxor, Friday, 6 February 2009 20:59 (sixteen years ago)

okay I swear this is my last Santogold post on this thread but this kind of highlights why "Starstruck" is secretly my favorite song on the album:

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:00 (sixteen years ago)

what's love story?

. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:00 (sixteen years ago)

What about Miley Cyrus, any chance for "See You Again" here???

ilxor, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:00 (sixteen years ago)

"Love Story" is Taylor Swift...

ilxor, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:00 (sixteen years ago)

swagger like us? wtf

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:01 (sixteen years ago)

here's a tip for all you miss cleos out there: predict songs for the top 5 that people actually like

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:01 (sixteen years ago)

danity kane "damaged" is obviously going top 5

The Brainwasher, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:02 (sixteen years ago)

na i can't see SLU placing; it's a poll, so it's going to be something that a LOT of people voted for. totally forgot about 'love story', yeah that could find a place. paper planes and blind too

jammed hymen (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:03 (sixteen years ago)

Lady Gaga - "Just Dance"

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:03 (sixteen years ago)

kill me now

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:03 (sixteen years ago)

hopefully this means that everyone voted for that idjut boys phil collins re-edit

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:04 (sixteen years ago)

do-do you.. have a first...aid...kit...handy?

The Brainwasher, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:04 (sixteen years ago)

No Dizzee thus far, but there's been a couple of other polls where I've been the only one repping for him so I have no great hopes there. No Coldplay yet either

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:05 (sixteen years ago)

nobody likes coldplay here

The Brainwasher, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:06 (sixteen years ago)

Alicia Keys - "No One"

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:06 (sixteen years ago)

lol

The Brainwasher, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:06 (sixteen years ago)

Jazmine Sullivan?

danzig, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:06 (sixteen years ago)

that's me being crazily optimistic

danzig, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:07 (sixteen years ago)

I think the only thing Dizzee had this year was the Calvin Harris abomination - I can't comprehend a world where that beats Hot Chip let alone A Milli or American Boy.

. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:07 (sixteen years ago)

I wish but no.

xp

The Brainwasher, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:07 (sixteen years ago)

Ray J - "Sexy Can I"

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:07 (sixteen years ago)

na i can't see SLU placing - ya I thought the T.I. singles were pretty lackluster except for NMW, at least compared with King. Hopefully SLU and "Whatever You Like" (that didn't already place, did it?) will be absent.

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:09 (sixteen years ago)

guys, Battles was #2 in 2007. It'll probably be TV on the Radio or Fleet Foxes or something.

The Brainwasher, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:10 (sixteen years ago)

^im sayin

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:11 (sixteen years ago)

"See You Again" is a really good prediction, no way it's "Love Song."

"Happy House"
"Blind"
"Paper Planes"???
"Do You Mind"?????
"Touch My Body"????
"Yahh Trick Yahhh!!!!!!!"

Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:11 (sixteen years ago)

Donk is going to win this isn't it. :)

. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:13 (sixteen years ago)

Brainwasher, "Atlas" was a fucking phenomenal song with a unique sound that united fans of all sorts of music; an art-rock song that popped, locked and rolled, filling headphones and dancefloors alike while exploring very original musical territory.

Mentioning it in the same sentence as TVOTR or FF is lunk-headed.

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:13 (sixteen years ago)

Calm down, I actually like "Atlas" (besides the vocals). Just that it being #2 is kind of absurd.

The Brainwasher, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:14 (sixteen years ago)

Baseline!
Put a donk on it.
Electro!
Put a donk on it.
Techno!
Put a donk on it.
Ey, thats good that Tony!
Baseline! (Where'd you learn that one)
Put a donk on it.
Electro!
Put a donk on it.
Techno! (Ahh thats sick that mate)
Put a donk on it.
Donk d-donk donk donk donk.

lol xpost

rent, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:14 (sixteen years ago)

AWWW THAT'S SICK THAT IS

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:15 (sixteen years ago)

ILX!
Put a donk on it.

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:15 (sixteen years ago)

okay, i'm about to post #5, any last wild guesses?

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:15 (sixteen years ago)

Well, maybe TVOTR when they were turning out stuff like "Satellite" or "Young Liars" or even "Province"...but not this cowardly TVOTR

Hmm. I personally wouldn't have had it there, but I think that it's the kind of song that deserves to do well in blanket polls, because it tries to please everyone in as creative a manner as it can.

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:15 (sixteen years ago)

Bon Iver!
Put a donk on it.

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:16 (sixteen years ago)

okay, i'm about to post #5, any last wild guesses?

― lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, February 6, 2009 9:15 PM (9 seconds ago)

still rooting for danity kane "damaged"

The Brainwasher, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:16 (sixteen years ago)

or maybe Badu "Honey"!!!

The Brainwasher, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:16 (sixteen years ago)

maybe?

The Brainwasher, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:16 (sixteen years ago)

Calm down, I actually like "Atlas" (besides the vocals). Just that it being #2 is kind of absurd.

― The Brainwasher, Friday, February 6, 2009 4:14 PM (16 seconds ago)

ya i dunno what was 'absurd' about it, it was an epic, widely known and buzzed about song that did well on many other year end lists. definitely wasn't my #2 song of that year, but that's the nature of lists--a lot of people liked it enough to put it on a ballot

xp rather have 'the cell'!!

jammed hymen (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:17 (sixteen years ago)

I am seriously not ruling out a block vote for Put A Donk On It - it would only take two or three people voting it #1 to propel it into the top five.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:17 (sixteen years ago)

If people listened to "Rise Rice," it could have been top 5, but no one listened to "Rise Rice"

Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:17 (sixteen years ago)

Happy House, Blind, Paper Planes and Oxford Comma seem obvious, but I have no idea what the fifth one will be. I can't see Damaged, Touch My Body, Womanizer or Need U Bad placing higher than the last few entries so I'm guessing "The Golden Age" or some other indie schmindie.

lou, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:17 (sixteen years ago)

Well, the only other unmentioned track that I gave significant points to was Nu Brand Flexx, but I doubt they're in the top five

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:18 (sixteen years ago)

Wasn't "Paper Planes" on last years list? Shouldn't it be ineligible?!?

The Brainwasher, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:18 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, i don't want "paper planes" on here...

Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:19 (sixteen years ago)

Maybe Sam Sparro?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:20 (sixteen years ago)

most of the people that would vote for a song like that don't like that song

The Brainwasher, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:20 (sixteen years ago)

5 - Portishead - The Rip
214.5 points, 16 votes, 1 #1 vote
163 in P&J, 69 in p4k

"The Rip" is not getting as much love as it should. A song of two perfect halves.
― Ned Raggett

It's the standout favorite for me. The looooooooong held vocal note is so great, and I love the simple, imperfect drums. The song is only about 4 1/2 minutes but it feels like it's 2.
― Z S

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:21 (sixteen years ago)

oh

The Brainwasher, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:21 (sixteen years ago)

dammit I srsly was going to call this

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:21 (sixteen years ago)

maybe we could create an annual paper planes top 5 spot and make it the best 51 trax of the year

woh

rent, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:21 (sixteen years ago)

Get a good pair of headphones and listen to "Rise Rice," everyone! http://krecs.com/mahjongg/kontpab/

Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:21 (sixteen years ago)

Not my favourite on the album at all, but pleased to see the top 10 hegemony broken.

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:22 (sixteen years ago)

yeah I don't mind that being top 5, though my faves on the album are "Silence," "We Carry On" & "Small"

The Brainwasher, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:23 (sixteen years ago)

(If The Rip and Machine Gun swapped places, I'd be happier, basically)

My favourites on the album are "Small", "Machine Gun" and "Threads".

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:24 (sixteen years ago)

A song of two perfect halves.

Ned Raggett, wordsmith. (and correct!)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:24 (sixteen years ago)

xpost yeah, ned's comment is beyond perfect, considering no-one was considering it placing.

. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:27 (sixteen years ago)

(urgh to myself.)

. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:27 (sixteen years ago)

that Tv On the Radio thing is actually really nice. I would never have bothered to listen to them, only knew that Staring at the Sun song before and a girl I used to live with decided they were cool and was really into them.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:30 (sixteen years ago)

their 1st EP and Album are excellent. Otherwise..... (though 'Family Tree' is nice)

The Brainwasher, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:31 (sixteen years ago)

I think I voted for the Portishead track

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:32 (sixteen years ago)

Actually, listening to it now, it's really really quite a beautiful song, if maybe a LITTLE peremptory for my personal inclinations.

Brainwasher, I'd say the 2nd album actually has some really good songs, and is better than the 1st (if not the EP).

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:32 (sixteen years ago)

o_O & "The Rip" with placing so high, esp. above "Machine Gun," but I'll take it!

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:32 (sixteen years ago)

(it being The Rip)

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:32 (sixteen years ago)

ok, yeah, this is sounding so beautiful on these headphones...

Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:33 (sixteen years ago)

Its sorta like the boy version of that Scarlett Johannson album,

joeks, although I really loved that album.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:33 (sixteen years ago)

I can't really fault The Rip placing in the top five, although I completely overlooked it as well. Just listened to it again and it is beyond gorgeous.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:35 (sixteen years ago)

Scarlett album better place...

Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:36 (sixteen years ago)

I think The Rip becomes even more stunning if you haven't heard it for a while, as a few of us have just discovered.

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:37 (sixteen years ago)

so the portishead album is gonna be number one then

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:39 (sixteen years ago)

no new amerykah is

The Brainwasher, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:39 (sixteen years ago)

If I'd thought about this tactically, I'd have put Third wayyyy higher up my poll tbh

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:40 (sixteen years ago)

If The-Dream is number one, ILX has my heart

Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:40 (sixteen years ago)

ha, it might place depending on who voted

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:41 (sixteen years ago)

Yes, that's quite beautiful. I'm surprised it placed so high, it's not the kind of track you usually get a consensus around.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:42 (sixteen years ago)

my ballot even

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:42 (sixteen years ago)

I've never heard the portishead album

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:42 (sixteen years ago)

I forgot to vote

The Brainwasher, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:43 (sixteen years ago)

i always forget that people liked other songs on that album more than 'machine gun'

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:43 (sixteen years ago)

musically can i still vote plz

The Brainwasher, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:43 (sixteen years ago)

yes, yes, yes, Brainwasher should vote!

Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:44 (sixteen years ago)

you always forget to vote

danzig, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:44 (sixteen years ago)

lol @ Brainwasher not voting but thinking "Damaged" could still place

some dude, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:45 (sixteen years ago)

The-Dream will place, I can feel it.

lou, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:45 (sixteen years ago)

hold on - place in singles????

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:46 (sixteen years ago)

Albums.

lou, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:46 (sixteen years ago)

oh

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:46 (sixteen years ago)

not even nommed in the singles although I would've given Falsetto a very high vote if it were.

danzig, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:47 (sixteen years ago)

oh, there's no doubt it will PLACE in albums, i just want it top ten.

Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:47 (sixteen years ago)

I'm liking The Rip more on each run through. Also, I can't think of anything else to compare it to. I'm hearing snatches of Joan Baez, Kraftwerk and Philip Glass in there, but it's not exactly derivative

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:49 (sixteen years ago)

It sounds like Broadcast

The Brainwasher, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:50 (sixteen years ago)

and Neu

The Brainwasher, Friday, 6 February 2009 21:51 (sixteen years ago)

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your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:55 (sixteen years ago)

the next is the highest placer to not receive a #1 note

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:01 (sixteen years ago)

note = vote

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:01 (sixteen years ago)

Was "Shawty Is Da Sh*!" nominated, or is that considered 2007?

Dan S, Friday, 6 February 2009 22:01 (sixteen years ago)

it is super duper 2007

some dude, Friday, 6 February 2009 22:02 (sixteen years ago)

4 - Friendly Fires - Paris
236.5 points, 20 votes
(14 votes, 163.5 points for Aeroplane Remix feat. Au Revoire Simone)
359/360 (Aeroplane Remix) in P&J, 95 (Aeroplane Remix) in p4k

Aeroplane Remix

have you heard the friendly fires remix? surely it's like the best end-of-night close your eyes and smile tune ever. i got the dj in the place i work to play it on friday night when the place was empty and i swear i was getting rushes while cleaning down the bar!
-or something

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:07 (sixteen years ago)

swagger like us? wtf

― your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, February 6, 2009 3:01 PM

here's a tip for all you miss cleos out there: predict songs for the top 5 that people actually like

― your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, February 6, 2009 3:01 PM

Huh? Wait, what did you say? Whaaaaat? Speak up!

i feel like ilm consensus stuff is gonna get beat out by lurkers voting in bon iver

― your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, February 6, 2009 12:44 PM

and im not using bon iver as a strawman either - im pretty sure every song from his album was nominated

― your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, February 6, 2009 12:45 PM

guys there is gonna be a bon iver track in the top 5 probably 3. every single one of his songs was nominated

― your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, February 6, 2009 2:33 PM

btw i mean there is gonna be a bon iver in the top 5 probably top 3, not 3 bon iver tracks in the top 5

― your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, February 6, 2009 2:33 PM

Oh, sorry Miss Cleo, I couldn't hear you over all the Bon Iver predictions you were tossing out a few hours ago. So sorry about that...

ilxor, Friday, 6 February 2009 22:07 (sixteen years ago)

so basically people are voting for the aeroplane remix rite? because the original.............

The Brainwasher, Friday, 6 February 2009 22:10 (sixteen years ago)

omg im so smart

rent, Friday, 6 February 2009 22:10 (sixteen years ago)

the breakdown's there bw

rent, Friday, 6 February 2009 22:13 (sixteen years ago)

Blind, Happy House, Paper Planes?

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:17 (sixteen years ago)

I'm listening to the Aeroplane version of Paris for the first time and loving it but... this is more of a cover version than a remix isn't it?

. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:18 (sixteen years ago)

dull as dishwater

whatever, Friday, 6 February 2009 22:19 (sixteen years ago)

Did most of the people who voted the original really mean the remix. I heard it for the first time yesterday after playing the remix to death. It really is a pile of shit though.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:20 (sixteen years ago)

I actually prefer the original, but I like busy percussion.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 February 2009 22:21 (sixteen years ago)

I like this, never crossed my mind to vote for it, though. Sounds a bit like Sophie Ellis Bextor to mine ears

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 February 2009 22:22 (sixteen years ago)

The original really makes me wanna punch that guy. Also, the girl on the remix is great, and probably relevant to whatever people were saying about Air France.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:23 (sixteen years ago)

both are great but i like the og better - the rush in the chorus is so great

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:27 (sixteen years ago)

"Let's write about promising to take someone to Paris." "Yes, the cowbell will work really well with that lyrical idea."

whatever, Friday, 6 February 2009 22:30 (sixteen years ago)

Considering ILM had no thread about Friendly Fires at all until I started one in December, that is placing astonishingly high. It's probably artificially high seeing as they're conflated votes for two completely different records, the Aeroplane/Au Revoir Simone version is a cover really.

That said, I love both versions unreservedly. The original is what I've wanted mainstream indie to be like for most of the 00s, the swell in the chorus really fits with the total unabashed excitement in the lyrics. "One day we're gonna live in Paris... you'll find me that French boy I'll find you that French girl... and every night we'll watch the stars coming out for us" and then there's that huge Kompakt rush in the chorus - it totally fits with that feeling of "yes I'm going to do something fucking exciting!"

And the Aeroplane remix is just the best fake Saint Etienne song ever, and it has that big Balearic payoff in the second half.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:37 (sixteen years ago)

Haha the original on its own wouldn't even have placed in the top 50.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:39 (sixteen years ago)

he original is what I've wanted mainstream indie to be like for most of the 00s

^^^ otm.

. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:41 (sixteen years ago)

(the*)

. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:41 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah totally - I love it when things you learn on a thread make you go back and listen to a record in a completely different way. Like, I hadn't even noticed the Kompakt influence but it's really there. I'm not used to 00s indie dance records sounding this expansive. When you listen to the Rapture or Hot Chip the sound is always endearingly ramshackle, and there's a sense of a "hey this is cool noise" approach to electronics.

Where Friendly Fires differ is there's a sense that they really appreciate why certain sounds in techno work the way they do - I'm thinking of the second half of Lovesick in particular, and the whole of Ex Lover. Also those huge pads on Jump In The Pool and Paris sound like they're consciously trying to recreate the "ahhhhhhhhhhh" feeling you get when you hear the lusher Kompakt stuff played on a huge sound system at 5am, except tethered to this tight punk-funk song structure with clattering drums and cowbells and whistles.

― Matt DC, Friday, 5 December 2008 14:27 (2 months ago)

^^^ OTM

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:42 (sixteen years ago)

"Happy House" in the top 3! Holy shit!

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:44 (sixteen years ago)

it's infinitely better than "paper planes" but i'd def be aight with it finishing #2 behind it

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:45 (sixteen years ago)

You're gonna be really disappointed when you see Put A Donk On It Oxford Comma in there instead.

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:45 (sixteen years ago)

3 - MIA - Paper Planes
253.5 points, 22 votes, 2 #1 votes
(6 votes, 48 points for DFA Remix)
1 in P&J

DFA Remix

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:46 (sixteen years ago)

o rly

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:46 (sixteen years ago)

It's 2008's highest climber, up two places to #3

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:47 (sixteen years ago)

Re: "Paris" - Never heard either version of it until now. I like the original OK, especially the "Kompact chorus" & the "busy drums," but that Aeroplane remix? Whew man, I am in love.

It's a great song and all, but PP is soooooo last year.

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:48 (sixteen years ago)

I don't think "Paper Planes" is going to place. I figure "Blind" will be #1 anyway. It will be interesting to see which of "Happy House" and "Oxford Comma" takes the #2 spot, though, or if there's a surprise upset.

haha well scratch that xps

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:48 (sixteen years ago)

probably would have been #1 this year if it hadn't placed last year.

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:48 (sixteen years ago)

DFA remix of PP is so :-/

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:49 (sixteen years ago)

oxford comma is not placing i guess?

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:49 (sixteen years ago)

or are we just fanboying "happy house"? I WONDER

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:50 (sixteen years ago)

fucking bullshit that this was allowed to poll if it finished in the top 5 last year

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:50 (sixteen years ago)

It's sort of been this year's anthem though, I mean, out there in the real world.

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:50 (sixteen years ago)

yeah seriously. this sets a bad precedent

The Brainwasher, Friday, 6 February 2009 22:51 (sixteen years ago)

nah not really, it's a pretty unique situation. i doubt that "blind" is gonna be in the billboard top 5 next year

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:52 (sixteen years ago)

It's like Tony Cascarino playing for Ireland.

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:52 (sixteen years ago)

tony cascarino circa 1995

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:52 (sixteen years ago)

Do you not read this site?

― nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Thursday, February 5, 2009 8:11 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^my exact reaction to all the "omg i had never heard that song before" people in here. baffling.

― lex pretend, Thursday, February 5, 2009 11:47 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i have heard of talking heads but never heard a song by them. i don't even know what kind of music they make. i don't really see how i'm supposed to automatically be aware of any of this.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, September 6, 2006 5:18 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:53 (sixteen years ago)

You know who Tony Cascarino is???

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:53 (sixteen years ago)

(xpost)

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:53 (sixteen years ago)

lolz xpost

. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:53 (sixteen years ago)

haha no it's a los campesinos lyric :/

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:53 (sixteen years ago)

the frankie knuckles version of Blind is also much better than the orig

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:53 (sixteen years ago)

The Hercules Club Mix is better than both.

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:54 (sixteen years ago)

loool @ jaymc

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:54 (sixteen years ago)

Also, listening to it now, it's shit

like, get a tune that doesn't base itself on a piss-weak 8-bar loop for 3 minutes, ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples, get rid of the annoying voice, use a beat that isn't soporific, and basically stop making music

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:55 (sixteen years ago)

some EMD here but Knuckles >> OG >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the boring boring Club Mix

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:55 (sixteen years ago)

Anthony Guy ("Tony") Cascarino (born 1 September 1962 in St Paul's Cray, Orpington, Kent, England) is a former association football player. He made his name as a striker for various British and French football clubs and for the Republic of Ireland national football team.

Cascarino was born in England but represented the Republic of Ireland, qualifying through his Irish grandfather. However, he later revealed that his mother told him in 1996 that she was adopted and therefore no blood relative to the grandfather. Cascarino said in his autobiography: "I didn't qualify for Ireland. I was a fraud. A fake Irishman". However, through the adoption his mother gained the right to Irish citizenship and therefore he was indeed eligible.

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:55 (sixteen years ago)

Paper Planes was technically released and was a critical darling in 2007 but 2008 was its year. not everything can be easily delimited by calendar year. also, consider songs that have multiple releases, or peak in different regions of the world at different.

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:56 (sixteen years ago)

He has become something of a cult figure and was referenced in the song "All Your Kayfabe Friends" by Welsh band Los Campesinos! where the singer tells that "You asked if I'd be anyone from history / Fact or fiction, dead or alive / I said I'd be Tony Cascarino, circa 1995."

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:56 (sixteen years ago)

1995 is a weird year to pick

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:56 (sixteen years ago)

ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples
ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples
ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples
ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples
ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples
ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples
ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples
ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples
ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples
ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples
ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples
ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples
ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples
ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples
ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples
ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples
ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples
ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples
ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples
ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples
ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples
ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples
ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples
ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples
ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples
ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples
ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:56 (sixteen years ago)

Am I doing a good enough job at relieving the unbearable tension?

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:57 (sixteen years ago)

lj, I'm not even that big a fan of PP but way to get completely blindsided by the entire point of the song

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:58 (sixteen years ago)

You can do those kind of samples well. MIA's are just pointless gimackry, once they've come the first time they fall predictably on the beat every time that "chorus" comes round (which is the same as the "verse")

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:58 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah I prefer my gunshot and cash register samples in 12/8.

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:59 (sixteen years ago)

OK, it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture, whatever. It's got the sophistication of a boiled egg and I hate it.

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:59 (sixteen years ago)

boo hiss at M.I.A. voters. I'll forgive those that voted for "With Every Heartbeat" and "Rehab" as being unaware the first time around - but who the heck on ILM hadn't heard "Paper Planes" in 2007?

danzig, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:00 (sixteen years ago)

lol Matt, what I'm saying is that one or two here and there upon a particularly cutting lyric really can work, but using it as a chorus is shit.

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:00 (sixteen years ago)

it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:01 (sixteen years ago)

YO DAWG WE HERD YOU LIKE CHALLOPS

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:02 (sixteen years ago)

It's like saying "Perfect Day" was the best song of 1996 because it was used in that movie.

danzig, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:02 (sixteen years ago)

I hadn't, btw xps. This is in fact the first time I've knowingly heard it.

Rev, sometimes I toss off a deliberately facile line as a means of flippant dismissal. This was one of those times.

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:03 (sixteen years ago)

not everything can be easily delimited by calendar year.

^^^otm

It's not even arguable that this song reached its peak outside of small knowledgeable circles in 2007. Its year was 2008.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:04 (sixteen years ago)

I'm typically impartial at best when it comes to guns n' cash samples, but for some reason I really like them in "Paper Planes," not for their symbolic import, but for their musical quality. I cannot explain this.

I really like the beat & (especially) the bassline in the DFA remix, but the vocals lose their "open air" quality and being synched with the tight pace makes the whole ordeal a little too claustrophobic for my tastes.

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:04 (sixteen years ago)

It's like saying "Perfect Day" was the best song of 1996 because it was used in that movie.

― danzig, Friday, February 6, 2009 3:02 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Was "Perfect Day" also a huge hit that got played on the radio all the time that year?

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:04 (sixteen years ago)

Was 1995 pre-buying the league? Because Marseille were pretty great until all that hit.

. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:05 (sixteen years ago)

It's like saying "Perfect Day" was the best song of 1996 because it was used in that movie.

Was it a charting single in several countries? Because if it wasn't, it's not the same thing at all.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:05 (sixteen years ago)

Maybe he still thought he was a real Irishman in 1995, and in 1996 he realised he was a fraud?

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:06 (sixteen years ago)

Was "Perfect Day" also a huge hit that got played on the radio all the time that year? - No, but "Lust For Life" was.

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:07 (sixteen years ago)

big cas could still do a job at the top level

Local Garda, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:08 (sixteen years ago)

Paper Planes was only released as a single for the first time this year, I'd say it counts. Andy Townsend.

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:08 (sixteen years ago)

Was "Perfect Day" also a huge hit that got played on the radio all the time that year? - so much so they did a charity version of it the next year.

danzig, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:09 (sixteen years ago)

He has publicly told Giovanni Trappatoni that if the side needs him he'll be available, for all eternity.

Local Garda, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:09 (sixteen years ago)

Again, the public at large didn't give two shits about "Lust for Life" until 1996 and, if it was re-released as a physical single at the time, it would've probably been eligible for consideration.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:09 (sixteen years ago)

Roy Keane on the other hand, said "stick it up yer bollocks, you 2007 cunt".

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:10 (sixteen years ago)

ILX's two "grandmothers" have suddenly and tragically asked that Paper Planes be voted for

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:11 (sixteen years ago)

who the heck on ILM hadn't heard "Paper Planes" in 2007?

Um... It's pretty easy not to catch things the first time round, especially if you hold the artist in the special kind of contempt reserved for useful idiots and poshos who think they're succeeding against all odds. Anyway, as others have pointed out it only clicked this last year and, contempt notwithstanding, is a magnificent record. Anyway, it was released as a single in 2008 and therefore meets the rules

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:11 (sixteen years ago)

There's a huge difference between a song that's a few months old taking on a new popularity (ffs it wasn't even released as a single until December) and song that's something like 20 years old. Is that a tremendously difficult concept?

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:12 (sixteen years ago)

There was a bunch of reissues on the albums poll (Pacific Ocean Blue for one) - same difference?

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:12 (sixteen years ago)

I love Kala, but better songs like Bamboo Banga, Boyz and 20 Dollar are invisible in comparison with Paper Planes since Pineapple Express it seems

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:13 (sixteen years ago)

and slumdog millionaire, ugh.

danzig, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:14 (sixteen years ago)

Likewise, the Vampire Weekend songs have been floating around since the fall of 2007, yet "A-Punk" (and possibly "Oxford Comma") wasn't officially released until the top of 2008.

I guess the real argument is that it placed on the ILM poll two years running. Perhaps we can install a "Paper Planes" clause in the future that will prevent such a thing from happening.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:14 (sixteen years ago)

Again, the public at large didn't give two shits about "Lust for Life" until 1996 and, if it was re-released as a physical single at the time, it would've probably been eligible for consideration.

― Johnny Fever, Friday, February 6, 2009 6:09 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

By this rationale, could "Bohemian Rhapsody" have been considered in a 1991 poll, or would it have been disqualified b/c it was also a hit the first time around (even though it was a bigger hit the second time)?

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:16 (sixteen years ago)

Naw, cause then you get things like "Rehab" or "With Every Heartbeat" that scrape in one year on certain demographics and then are consensus picks the next. xp

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:16 (sixteen years ago)

How many non-singles feature in this top 50? I know National Shite Day is one...

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:17 (sixteen years ago)

you'd think after years of those robyn/annie albums being part of polls, ilx would have come up with some sort of reasoning for this situation already.

xpost.

. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:18 (sixteen years ago)

i dont think that there needs to be any rules - as i said earlier this is a pretty unique situation

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:18 (sixteen years ago)

i think the reasoning is, "who gives a shit, if they get votes they're a song of the year"

caek, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:19 (sixteen years ago)

^^^^

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:20 (sixteen years ago)

I didn't expect "Paper Planes" to place, but I'm certainly not mad that it did.

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:20 (sixteen years ago)

caek otm

Would laugh my arse off if Brother Sport is next though.

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:21 (sixteen years ago)

Good point. If enough people had voted up "Lust for Life," maybe it should have ranked (had we done a poll in 1996). There was reason behind it. If it ranked in 2008, it would just be WTF.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:21 (sixteen years ago)

Well, it seems this dilemma has been sorted out. On to number two then..

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:22 (sixteen years ago)

2 - The Pogues feat. Kirstie McCall - Fairytale In New York
336.5 points, 40 votes, 3 #1 votes

http://www.youtube.com/v/3VVuZIIB2hC0&hl=en

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:26 (sixteen years ago)

save the lolwinners for #1

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:27 (sixteen years ago)

lol "Auld Lang Syne" for #1?

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:27 (sixteen years ago)

Jeff Buckley's got it locked.

. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:28 (sixteen years ago)

put a donk on it

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:28 (sixteen years ago)

okay, u guys earned it:

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:29 (sixteen years ago)

2 - Juan Maclean, The - Happy House
314 points, 22 votes, 8 #1 votes
37 in P&J, 20 in p4k

Happy House - the Juan Maclean

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:29 (sixteen years ago)

notice the number of #1 votes...nothing comes close (including the #1 song)

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:30 (sixteen years ago)

now time will be alloted for joek winners

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:30 (sixteen years ago)

SO EXCELLENT

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:30 (sixteen years ago)

http://regmedia.co.uk/2006/07/24/rocket_launch.jpg

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:31 (sixteen years ago)

too bad the youtube is only like 40% of the song

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:31 (sixteen years ago)

don't really get the love for this

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:33 (sixteen years ago)

-_-

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:33 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, older Juan Maclean stuff really towers over this. *shrug*

Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:36 (sixteen years ago)

The only thing Juan did (that I've heard) before "Happy House" within a nautical mile of it is "Give Me Every Little Thing"

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:37 (sixteen years ago)

1 - Kings of Leon - Sex on Fire
486 points, 35 votes, 15 #1 votes
1 in P&J, 1 in p4k

ilxor, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:38 (sixteen years ago)

Okay I'm still a bit nonplussed by the love for Happy House but mad props to ILM for a totally unpredictable top five. Give Me Every Little Thing is way better though.

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:38 (sixteen years ago)

lol @ that pause moment

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:39 (sixteen years ago)

So #1 pretty much has to be A Milli, right? Meaning Oxford Comma got the snub.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:39 (sixteen years ago)

has a joke number 1 ever been funny?

caek, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:40 (sixteen years ago)

THIS SEX IS ON FIRE

Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:40 (sixteen years ago)

a milli already placed

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:40 (sixteen years ago)

"A Milli" was #7. It's "Blind". "Oxford Comma" got the snub.

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:40 (sixteen years ago)

Oh, duh. I missed it.

Yeah, "Blind" it is.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:41 (sixteen years ago)

1 - Melis'a Morgan - Do Me Baby
10000000000.75 points, 100000000 votes, 150 #1 votes
1 in P&J, 1 in p4k

The Brainwasher, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:41 (sixteen years ago)

Hoping the Frankie Knuckles remix, which I nommed and voted for, does well.

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:42 (sixteen years ago)

JF, I think he's referring to an act of coitus whilst being literally set ablaze.

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:42 (sixteen years ago)

has a joke number 1 ever been funny?

― caek

joke #1s are classic

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:42 (sixteen years ago)

//////////////////shawty got troll troll troll troll troll troll\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:43 (sixteen years ago)

@Pillbox: I just like writing that chorus in all caps. It's almost as dumb as ARE WE HUMAN OR ARE WE DANCER

Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:44 (sixteen years ago)

1 - Soulja Boy - YAHHH!!!
394 points, 43 votes, 4 #1s
1 in P&J, 1 in p4k

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:44 (sixteen years ago)

STANDING ON THE SHOULDER OF GIANTS

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:45 (sixteen years ago)

mad props to ILM for a totally unpredictable top five

Oh come the fuck on. #s 5 and arguably 4, maybe. Everyone knew what the top 3 was gonna be.

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:45 (sixteen years ago)

Wasn't everyone saying A Milli really recently?

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:46 (sixteen years ago)

But order is everything.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:46 (sixteen years ago)

I wouldn't have put Happy House anywhere near the top ten at the start of this list.

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:46 (sixteen years ago)

And having just heard (half of) it, I wouldn't have even remembered I'd heard it come January.

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:47 (sixteen years ago)

I certainly wouldn't have predicted Noah and the Whale's glorious victory.

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:48 (sixteen years ago)

Will have to double back and think about a lot of these, and I've never really sat down to figure out why I love "Paper Planes" so much. But "Time To Pretend" deserves its place here. Cunga identifies the territory of its excellence but doesn't quite nail whey I love it so much...

The other thing Hoffer mentioned was that being a kid in the post-sixties Western world meant that you were simultaneously and unprecedentedly sheltered AND jaded to the world's pleasures and sins. [...] As it turns out the pampered and well-off children of the Western world were also victims of a world where disintegrating values left them out in the cold with nowhere to go but inwards, into the world of solipsism and status updates.

To me the issue isn't so much being stuck in a meaningless contemporary world, etc., but living in this artificially extended childhood with the knowledge that that's what it is. Going to shows, getting cool haircuts, meeting girls, and whirling around bonfires on the beach, all full of joy and beauty but also knowing that sooner or later you're going to graduate and have to "get jobs at offices and wake up for the morning commute." That line could have been a disaffected sneer, a hope-I-die-before-I-get-old moment, but there's a great sadness in teh performance; even as they say they're choosing their life of inane rock and roll adventure over the morning commute, they seem painfully aware a) that the rock and roll thing has its own miseries, and b) that they most likely WILL end up getting jobs at offices. The song's not a manifesto for debauchery, it's a lament for the end of youth.

Of course, I'm 27 and under the growing impression that grad school has not been a temporary interruption in the bohemian idyll of 23, but a sobering preview of where the rest of all this is going. So I may be reading a lot into this. But it's a damn good song, deserving not only of its place on this countdown but of its success in the market at large; clearly these guys struck a chord.

(P.S. If I had remembered to nominate "Yahhh!" it would have been #1 on my ballot.)

Doctor Casino, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:48 (sixteen years ago)

You haven't been launched into spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayce tho. xxp

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:48 (sixteen years ago)

xxxpost: What if you'd listened to it on December 31?

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:49 (sixteen years ago)

lol i have had a boozy lunch and got to the airport and this still isn't done with!!!

not as bad as i thought it would be but ehhhhhhh

lex pretend, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:49 (sixteen years ago)

I used to be a DFA loyalist, until they started giving me a reason not to be. Out of all the stuff they've ever released/produced, I'd put "Happy House" in the bottom 10%.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:49 (sixteen years ago)

xpost to myself: another exploratory stab at grand rock critic pronouncement undermined by "the" -> "teh"...

Doctor Casino, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:49 (sixteen years ago)

omg you are reading far too much into that nothingy mgmt song

also

boo hiss at M.I.A. voters. I'll forgive those that voted for "With Every Heartbeat" and "Rehab" as being unaware the first time around - but who the heck on ILM hadn't heard "Paper Planes" in 2007?

― danzig, Friday, February 6, 2009 11:00 PM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^exactly

lex pretend, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:50 (sixteen years ago)

We're fated to lex pretend.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:50 (sixteen years ago)

Oh for 2007, when ILM was collectively amped for things that I liked, such as Studio or Caribou

Pillbox, it's actually so forgettable I couldn't tell you how it goes now, 10 minutes after hearing it. One of the linked videos was Aphex Twin's XTAL and I've got that stuck in my head instead :)

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:50 (sixteen years ago)

since it's pretty obvs I guess I'll post the number 1 now, I have a list of all the placers and all the tracks that received a vote and I'll post those as well.

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:51 (sixteen years ago)

1 - Hercules & Love Affair - Blind
322.5 points, 31 votes, 1 #1 vote
(6 votes, 42 points for Frankie Knuckles Remix)
7 in P&J, 1 in p4k

Frankie Knuckles Remix

OK, I've listened to "Blind" 20 times today. It's the harmonies on that "I feel blind" that get me each time (something that gets lost in the Frankie Knuckles remix), and the beat right after that where the horns come in and I imagine all the dry ice around the dance floor going whoooosh and all the shirts coming off.
― Eazy

"blind" when played in a club (and preferably the "club mix") just sounds like it has come from outer space. the vocal makes me feel how i imagine it would be to be on opium. so warm inside!
― stirmonster

i know im just jockin but that frankie knuckles remix with antony makes me want to go down on dudes, in a good way
― max

TS: Original vs Knuckles remix. I'm generationally pre-disposed to side with the smoooooth dad-house of the latter...
― mike t-diva

I think (maybe with some time, to echo arguments made elsewhere on ilm these days) that knuckles remix might stand out as one of the better things to come out of H&LA. in context, it's proper garage, done like no other nowadays. it's lush, the production is both restrained and faultless. and I agree that tune is impossibly catchy!
- blunt

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:51 (sixteen years ago)

trying to fight "paper planes" as the crit song of 08 is futile guys

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:51 (sixteen years ago)

To me the issue isn't so much being stuck in a meaningless contemporary world, etc., but living in this artificially extended childhood with the knowledge that that's what it is. Going to shows, getting cool haircuts, meeting girls, and whirling around bonfires on the beach, all full of joy and beauty but also knowing that sooner or later you're going to graduate and have to "get jobs at offices and wake up for the morning commute." That line could have been a disaffected sneer, a hope-I-die-before-I-get-old moment, but there's a great sadness in teh performance; even as they say they're choosing their life of inane rock and roll adventure over the morning commute, they seem painfully aware a) that the rock and roll thing has its own miseries, and b) that they most likely WILL end up getting jobs at offices. The song's not a manifesto for debauchery, it's a lament for the end of youth.

^^this is not actually a profound revelation, like, in the slightest, it's a feeling which is barely important enough to mention in passing on a livejournal, let alone have a pop song about

lex pretend, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:52 (sixteen years ago)

I'm still kinda weirded out about "The Rip"'s placement and people preferring anything on that album to "Machine Gun" in general.

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:52 (sixteen years ago)

the final score:

50 - Flo Rida - Low (69.5 points, 7 votes)
49 - Air France - No Excuses (70 points, 5 votes, 1 #1 vote)
48 - Kleerup Feat. Lykke Li - Until We Bleed (73.5 points, 7 votes; 3 votes, 29.5 points for Mikael's Cello Version)
47 - Kelley Polar - Entropy Reigns (In The Celestial City) (74 points, 7 votes)
46 - The Bug - Poison Dart feat. Warrior Queen (75.5 points, 7 votes)
45 - Katy Perry - Hot N Cold (76 points, 7 votes)
44 - Crazy Cousinz - Bongo Jam (77 points, 6 votes)
43 - MGMT - Kids (82 points, 9 votes)
42 - TV On The Radio - Family Tree (83 points, 6 votes)
41 - T.I. - No Matter What (83.5 points, 5 votes, 1 #1 vote, )
40 - Cassie - Official Girl (83.5 points, 6 votes, 2 #1 votes)
39 - Matias Aguayo - Minimal (84 points, 7 votes, 4 votes; 51.5 points for DJ Koze Maxi Version)
38 - Half Man Half Biscuit - National Shite Day (86 points, 6 votes, 1 #1 vote)
37 - Lil Wayne - Got Money (Ft. T-Pain) (90.5 points, 7 votes)
36 - Ting Tings, The - That's Not My Name (91.5 points, 8 votes)
35 - Rihanna - Disturbia (92 points, 9 votes)
34 - Lil Wayne feat. Static Major - Lollipop (94 points, 8 votes)
33 - Lindstrøm - The Long Way Home (97 points, 10 votes; 3 votes, 23 points for Prins Thomas Edit)
32 - Goldfrapp - A & E (98 points, 9 votes, 1 #1 vote)
31 - Ne-Yo - Closer (98.5 points, 10 votes)
30 - Deerhunter - Nothing Ever Happened (101.5 points, 10 votes)
29 - Gang Gang Dance - House Jam (102.5 points, 8 votes)
28 - Fleet Foxes - White Winter Hymnal (106 points, 8 votes)
27 - Alphabeat - Fascination (111 points, 7 votes, 2 #1 votes)
26 - Ida Maria - Oh My God (116 points, 9 votes, 1 #1 vote)
25 - Erykah Badu - The Healer (117 points, 9 votes, 1 #1 vote)
24 - Beyonce - Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It) (120.5 points, 12 votes)
23 - Vampire Weekend - A-Punk (121 points, 11 votes)
22 - T.I. Feat. Rihanna - Live Your Life (123.5 points, 10 votes)
21 - Air France - Collapsing At Your Doorstep (135 points, 13 votes, 1 #1 vote)
20 - Jordin Sparks And Chris Brown - No Air (139 points, 11 votes, 1 #1 vote)
19 - Grace Jones - Williams' Blood (142 points, 12 votes, 1 #1 vote; 7 votes, 81.5 points for Aeroplane Remix)
18 - M83 - Kim & Jessie (142.5 points, 13 votes, 1 #1 vote)
17 - Kanye West - Love Lockdown (144 points, 12 votes)
16 - Hot Chip - Ready For The Floor (144.5 points, 11 votes, 1 #1 vote)
15 - MGMT - Electric Feel (151 points, 12 votes; 2 votes, 27.5 points for Aeroplane Remix)
14 - Aeroplane feat. Kathy Diamond - Whispers (158 points, 13 votes, 1 #1 vote)
13 - Cut Copy - Hearts On Fire (161.5 points, 16 votes)
12 - Santogold - L.E.S. Artistes (171.5 points, 15 votes)
11 - Portishead - Machine Gun (173 points, 16 votes, 1 #1 vote)
10 - Young Jeezy Ft. Kanye West - Put On (174.5 points, 15 votes)
9 - Wiley - Wearing My Rolex (187.5 points, 16 votes, 1 #1 vote)
8 - MGMT - Time To Pretend (203 points, 15 votes, 3 #1 votes)
7 - Lil Wayne - A Milli (203.5 points, 19 votes, 1 #1 vote)
6 - Estelle Feat. Kanye West - American Boy (209.5 points, 19 votes, 1 #1 vote)
5 - Portishead - The Rip (214.5 points, 16 votes, 1 #1 vote)
4 - Friendly Fires - Paris (236.5 points, 20 votes; 14 votes, 163.5 points for Aeroplane Remix feat. Au Revoire Simone; highest placer without a 1st place vote)
3 - MIA - Paper Planes (253.5 points, 22 votes, 2 #1 votes; 6 votes, 48 points for DFA Remix)
2 - Juan Maclean, The - Happy House (314 points, 22 votes, 8 #1 votes)
1 - Hercules & Love Affair - Blind (322.5 points, 31 votes, 1 #1 vote; 6 votes, 42 points for Frankie Knuckles Remix)

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:52 (sixteen years ago)

Hahahaha worth it for the Max quote alone.

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:52 (sixteen years ago)

I repeat: out of interest, how many of those WEREN'T singles?

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:53 (sixteen years ago)

I'm still kinda weirded out about "The Rip"'s placement and people preferring anything on that album to "Machine Gun" in general.

― The Reverend (rev), Friday, February 6, 2009 11:52 PM (10 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

dittz. my favourite off the album was 'we carry on', and i fully expect it to place justifiably high in the albums poll, but it seems...odd to nominate/vote for tracks separately. it's a coherent body of work and pulling it apart makes as much sense as pulling the erykah or lindstrom albums apart into their constituent parts, and maybe misses the point somewhat

lex pretend, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:54 (sixteen years ago)

I didn't specify if a remix version also got points (if it shows a remix it probably means the remix is the only thing that got voted for), this was a v quick and dirty list. Some of the numbers might be off since I just put it together but I will stand by it being 99.9% accurate.

68.5 - Fall, The - 50 Year Old Man
68.5 - Lady Gaga - Just Dance
68.5 - Taylor Swift - Love Story
68 - Air France - June Evenings
67 - Gang Gang Dance Feat. Tinchy Stryder - Princes
66 - Wiz Khalifa - Say Yeah
64.5 - Leona Lewis - Bleeding Love
64 - Cut Copy - Lights & Music
64 - TV On The Radio - Golden Age
63 - Torche - Amnesian
62.5 - M83 - We Own The Sky
61 - M83 - Graveyard Girl
61 - Annie - Songs Remind Me Of You
60.5 - Erykah Badu - The Cell

58.5 - Ne-Yo - Miss Independent
58.5 - Paavoharju - Uskallan
57.5 - Kanye West - Heartless
57.5 - Beyonce - If I Were A Boy
57 - H Two O Ft Platnum - What's It Gonna Be
56 - Sebastien Tellier - Divine
55.5 - Empire Of The Sun - Waking On A Dream
55.5 - Vampire Weekend - Oxford Comma
55 - Dizzee Rascal - Dance Wiv Me
54.5 - Hot Chip - One Pure Thought
54.5 - Chaz Jankel - Get Myself Together
54.5 - Crystal Castles - Crimewave
53 - Jesu - Farewell (Alternative Version)
52 - El Guincho - Palmitos Park
51.5 - Presets, The - This Boy's In Love
51.5 - Hood Headlinaz F/ Jackie Chain & Jhi-Ali - Rollin'
51 - Jamie Lidell - Another Day
50.5 - David Byrne And Brian Eno - Strange Overtones
50 - Omar S - Psychotic Photosynthesis
50 - Paleface W/ Kyla - Do You Mind (Crazy Cousinz Remix)

48.5 - Roisin Murphy - You Know Me Better
47.5 - Goldfrapp - Clowns
47.5 - Hercules And Love Affair - Hercules Theme
47.5 - Sun Kil Moon - Moorestown
47.5 - Q-Tip - Gettin' Up
47 - Veronicas, The - Untouched
46.5 - Pussycat Dolls - I Hate This Part
46.5 - Young Jeezy Feat. Nas - My President
46.5 - Animal Collective - Brothersport
46.5 - Late Of The Pier - The Enemy Are The Future
46 - Lil Mama - Shawty Get Loose (Feat. Chris Brown & T-Pain)
46 - Lykke Li - I'm Good, I'm Gone
45.5 - Wiley - If You're Going Out I'm Going Out Too
45.5 - Fuck Buttons - Sweet Love For Planet Earth
45 - M83 - Couleurs
45 - Solange - Sandcastle Disco
44.5 - DJ Koze - I Want To Sleep
44 - Cut Copy - So Haunted
44 - Coyote - Too Hard (Aeroplane Mix)
44 - Max Tundra - Which Song
43.5 - Young Jeezy - Circulate
43 - Hercules And Love Affair - You Belong
42 - Of Montreal - An Eluardian Instance
41.5 - Invisible Conga People - Cable Dazed
40 - Enur Feat. Natasja - Calabria 2008
40 - Kylie Minogue - The One
40 - Grind Mode - I'm So High
40 - Wire - One Of Us

39.5 - Adele - Chasing Pavements
38.5 - Sigur Rós - Gobbledigook
38.5 - Glass Candy - Rolling Down The Hills
38 - Britney Spears - Womanizer
38 - Little Boots - Stuck On Repeat
38 - Cut Copy - Far Away
38 - Ladyhawke - Delirium
37.5 - Sanatagold - Lights Out
37.5 - Walkmen, The - I Lost You
37.5 - Teedra Moses - So Kool
37 - Esoteric - Circle
37 - Spiritualized - Soul On Fire
36.5 - Bug, The - Murder We (Featuring Ricky Ranking)
36 - TV On The Radio - DLZ
36 - DJ Ng Ft Baby Katy - Tell Me
36 - Whitest Boy Alive, The - Golden Cage (Fred Falke Remix)
36 - Ravonettes, The - Aly, Walk With Me
35.5 - Stereolab - Three Women
35 - Erykah Badu - Soldier
35 - No Age - Teen Creeps
34.5 - Sara Bareilles - Love Song
34.5 - Ariel Pink - Can't Hear My Eyes
34 - Annie - I Know UR Girlfriend Hates Me
34 - Sally Shapiro - I'll Be By Your Side (Tensnake Remix)
34 - Drive-By Truckers - That Man I Shot
34 - Surkin - White Knight Two
34 - School Of Seven Bells - Half Asleep
33.5 - Low Motion Disco -Love Love Love (Aeroplane Mix)
33.5 - Blackout Crew - Put A Donk On It
33 - Mountain Goats, The - San Bernadino
33 - Cahill -Trippin On You (Wideboys London Mix)
33 - Chris Brown - Forever
32.5 - T-Pain - Chopped N Skrewed
32.5 - Portishead - We Carry On
32.5 - Mole, The - Baby, You're The One
32.5 - Rubies - Room Without A Key (Studio Version)
32 - Mountain Goats, The - Sax Rohmer #1
32 - Perempay & Dee Ft. Katie Pearl - In The Air
32 - Wookie Ft Ny - Falling Again
31 - T.I. - Swagga Like Us
31 - Pink - So What
31 - Coldplay - Violet Hill
31 - Morten Sorensen - Start Something
31 - Quiet Village - Pillow Talk
30.5 - Presets, The - If I Know You
30.5 - Gotye - Hearts A Mess (Supermayer Remix)
30.5 - Cut Copy - Feel The Love
30 - Luomo Ft. Sascha Ring Aka Apparat - Love You All
30 - Jazmine Sullivan - Dream Big
30 - Santogold - Say Aha
30 - Chris Brown - With You
30 - Bjork - Earth Intruders (Xxxhchange Remix)
30 - Usher - Love In The Club

29.5 - Ciara - Echo
29.5 - Guns N' Roses - Better
29.5 - Stephen Malkmus & The Jicks - Out Of Reaches
29 - Beck - Gamma Ray
29 - Keane - Spiralling
29 - John Legend F/ Andre 3000 - Green Light
28.5 - Runaway - Brooklyn Club Jam
28.5 - Drive-By Truckers - Self-Destructive Zones
28.5 - Grace Jones - This Is
28.5 - Donaeo - African Warrior
28.5 - Walkmen, The - On The Water
28.5 - Ladyhawke - Paris Is Burning
28.5 - Marit Larsen - If A Song Could Get Me You
28 - Lambchop - Natl Talk Like A Pirate Day
28 - Glass Candy - Rolling Down The Hills
28 - Colby O'Donis - What You Got(Ft Akon)
28 - Jennifer Hudson - Spotlight (Quentin Harris Mix)
27.5 - Bodies Of Water - Gold, Tan, Peach & Gray
27.5 - Rihanna - Rehab
27.5 - Rihanna - Please Don't Stop The Music (Wideboys Bassline Mix)
27 - T-Pain - Can't Believe It
27 - Dø , The - On My Shoulders
26.5 - Headless Heroes - The North Wind Blew South
26.5 - Ricardo Villalobos - Minimoonstar (Shackleton Remix)
26 - Neon Neon - I Told Her On Alderaan (Richard X Mix)
26 - Scooter - The Question Is What Is The Question
26 - Barbara Morgenstern - Come To Berlin (Telefon Tel Aviv Mix)
25.5 - Breeders, The - Night Of Joy
25.5 - Geeneus ft. Katy B - As I
25 - Santogold - Lights Out
25 - R.E.M. - Living Well Is The Best Revenge
25 - Ting Tings, The - Be The One
24.5 - DJ Mujava - Township Funk
24.5 - Hold Steady, The - Sequestered In Memphis
24.5 - Larkin Grimm - Blond And Golden Johns
24.5 - Soulja Boy Tell 'Em - Donk
24 - Kelly Rowland - Work (Freemasons Remix)
24 - Bug F/ Killa P & Flowdan, The - Skeng
24 - Sexy Kids - Sisters Are Forever
24 - Bob Dylan - Red River Shore*
24 - Crystal Castles - Courtship Dating
24 - TV On The Radio - Halfway Home
24 - Kid Rock - All Summer Long
23.5 - Girls Aloud - The Promise
23.5 - Bon Iver - Skinny Love
23.5 - Jazmine Sullivan - Need U Bad
23 - T2 - Heartbroken
23 - northern portrait - the fallen aristocracy
23 - Those Dancing Days - Hitten
23 - Alphabeat -Boyfriend
22.5 - Jamie Lidell - All I Wanna Do
22 - Solange Knowles - I Decided Pt. 1
22 - My My - Everybody's Talkin
22 - Fleet Foxes - Your Protector
22 - Los Campesinos! - My Year In Lists
22 - Fall, The - Taurig
22 - British Sea Power - No Lucifer
21.5 - Syclops - Where's Jason K?
21.5 - Very Best Feat. MIA And Santogold, The - Get It Up
21.5 - Raphael Saadiq - Big Easy
21.5 - Belong - Late Night
21.5 - Britney Spears - Break The Ice
21 - Los Campesinos - Sweet Dreams, Sweet Cheeks
21 - Lykke Li - Little Bit
21 - B-52's, The - Eyes Wide Open
21 - Jim Jones - Pop Champagne
21 - Cure, The - Underneath The Stars
21 - Cole Medina - Love You Inside Out
21 - Trina Ft. Killer Mike - Look Back At Me
21 - Of Montreal - Id Engager
20.5 - Late Of The Pier - Focker
20.5 - Hot Stylz F/ Yung Joc - Lookin' Boy
20.5 - Dungen - Satt Att Se
20.5 - Sis - Trompeta
20.5 - Lykke Li - Little Bit
20 - Guilty Simpson - Almighty Dreadnaughtz
20 - Ladytron - Runaway
20 - Zinc & Geeneus Ft Nikki Benoit - Emotions
20 - Sweet Disposition, The - Sweet Disposition
20 - Volcano - Palimpsests
20 - Drive-By Truckers - Bob
20 - Elisabeth Carew - Destructive

19.5 - D-Malice - Gabryelle Refix
19.5 - Alicia Keys - No One
19 - Sound Stream - Live Goes On
19 - Magnetic Fields, The - Too Drunk To Dream
19 - Fall, The - Wolf Kidult Man
19 - Robert Forster - The Evangelist
19 - Conor Oberst - Cape Canaveral
19 - school - let it slip
19 - Yo Majesty - Don't Let Go
19 - Portable - Release
19 - Lloyd - Girls Around The World
19 - Lil Mama - L.I.F.E.
19 - Kid Cudi - Day And Night (Crookers Remix)
19 - Tinchy Stryder - Stryderman
19 - Al Green - Lay It Down
18.5 - Cherish - Killa (Feat. Yung Joc)
18 - Danny Byrd - Shock Out
18 - Sofia Marikh - Kelmet Hobb
18 - Janet Jackson - Rock With U
18 - Golden Silvers - Arrows Of Eros
18 - Dop - I'm Just A Man
18 - David Archuleta - Crush
18 - Dirk Leyers - Alma
18 - kaputt - family tree
17.5 - Morgan Geist - Detroit
17 - Rachel M - Losing Me (Jamie Duggan 4 4 Remix)
17 - ruling class - if you wonder / flowers
17 - Whitey - Do The Nothing
17 - Anoraak - Nightdrive With You
16 - T.I. Feat Ludacris - On Top Of The World
16 - Roisin Murphy - You Know Me Better
16 - Wedding Present - The Thing I Like About About Him (Is His Girlfriend)
16 - Pussycat Dolls - When I Grow Up
16 - Chap, The - Proper Rock
16 - Miley Cyrus - See You Again
16 - Shortwave Set, The - Glitches N' Bugs (Mungolian Jet Set Remix)
16 - T.I. F/ Swizz Beatz - Swing Ya Rag
16 - carrots - doing our part
16 - Ny - Fire (T2 Remix)
15.5 - Ryan Leslie - Addiction Remix (Ft/ Cassie And Fabolous)
15 - Ebony Bones - We Know All About You
15 - Cyndi Lauper - Into The Nightlife
15 - Youthmovies - Surtsey
15 - Jamie Lloyd - May I? (Quarion Mix)
15 - Randy Newman - Feels Like Home
15 - Sprengjuhollin - Keyrum Yfir Island
14 - Steinski - Number Three On Flight Eleven
14 - D1 - I'm Loving
14 - Alphabeat - 10000 Nights (Brodinski & Yuksek Remix)
14 - Death Set, The - Negative Thinking
14 - Scarlett Johannson - Falling Down
14 - domino state - what's the question
14 - Treasure Fingers - Cross The Dancefloor
14 - Farley "Jackmaster" Funk - Love Can't Turn Around (Boy's Noize Remix)
14 - Thomas White - The Silence Stops Tonight
14 - White Denim - All You Really Have To Do
14 - Pete And The Pirates - Mr. Understanding
14 - Ne-Yo - Single
14 - High Contrast - If We Ever
14 - Hervé & Kissy Sell Out - Rikkalicious (12 Version)
13.5 - Phil Collins - I'm Not Moving (Idjut Boys Remix)
13 - Erykah Badu - Honey (Seiji Mix)
13 - Nu Brand Flexx - I Feel So Good
13 - Danity Kane - Damaged
13 - Aquasky Feat. Acafool - Have A Good Time
13 - Bon Iver - Re: Stacks
13 - Kathleen Edwards - I Make The Dough, You Get The Glory
13 - Stimming & H.O.S.H. - Radar
13 - Lil Wayne - Mrs. Officer
13 - Shut Up & Dance - Glory Days
13 - Cocknbullkid - Shake
12.5 - Britney Spears - Piece Of Me
12.5 - Santogold - You'll Find A Way
12.5 - Sigur Ros - Ara Batur
12.5 - Usher - Trading Places
12 - Palm Tree Family & Tahiti Boy - 1973
12 - John Maus - Do Your Best
12 - Samamidon - Saro
12 - Brandy - Right Here (Departed)
12 - Mogwai - The Sun Smells Too Lou
12 - Mystery Jets W/ L. Marling - Young Love
12 - Bon Iver - Flume
12 - 3 Doors Down - Not My Time
12 - Sugababes - Denial
12 - DJ Q Ft MC Bones - You Wot
12 - Tony Christie - Louise
12 - T-Pain Ft. Teddy Verseti - Church
12 - Shit And Shine - Toilet Door Tits
12 - Mahjongg - Rise Rice
11.5 - Fan Death - Veronica's Veil
11.5 - John Daly - Solitaire
11 - Virgin Passages - This Is Not The End Of The World Again
11 - Solange - T.O.N.Y.
11 - Miley Cyrus - 7 Things
11 - Richard Bartz - Diamond Girl
10.5 - Saint Etienne - Burnt Out Car 2008
10.5 - La Roux - Quicksand
10.5 - Embassy, The - State'08
10.5 - Kuniyuki Takahashi - Dear African Sky (Henrik Schwarz Remix)
10.5 - Ghost Note - Pissed And Passed Out
10.5 - Jay-Z - Dope Boy Fresh (Jockin' Jay-Z)
10.5 - Jean-Jacques Perrey & Dana Countryman - Funky Little Spacegirl
10.5 - Girls Aloud - Theme To 'St. Trinians'
10.5 - Cure, The - The Only One
10.5 - Joker - Gully Brook Lane
10.5 - Kanye West Feat Young Jeezy - Amazing
10.5 - Maelstrom - The Duke (Maelstrom Edit)
10.5 - Jolie Holland - Mexico City
10.5 - Grackle - Jungle (T. Keeler And Capablanca Mix)
10.5 - T2 Feat. Addictive - Gonna Be Mine
10.5 - Kanye West - Street Lights
10.5 - Mary J. Blige, Growing Pains - Work That
10.5 - Department Of Eagles - No One Does It
10.5 - Williams - Love On A Real Train (Original)
10.5 - Cassie - 2 The Morning
10.5 - Beach House - Heart Of Chambers
10.5 - Wild Beasts - Brave Bulging Buoyant Clairvoyants
10.5 - Little Jackie - The World Should Revolve Around Me
10.5 - Death Cab For Cutie - Cath...
10.5 - Nine Inch Nails - 1,000,000
10.5 - Lovelock - Don't Turn Away (From My Love)
10.5 - Mari Boine Vs. Mungolian Jetset - It Ain't Necessarily Evil
10.5 - Jacques Renault - Bad Skinned
10.5 - Ruby Suns, The - Tane Mahuta
10.5 - Plastique De Rêve - Lost In The City (Feat. Ghostape)
10.5 - Playaz Circle Feat. Lil Wayne - Duffel Bag Boy
10.5 - Flo Rida Ft. Will.I.Am - In The Ayer
10.5 - Deastro - The Shaded Forests
10 - David Byrne & Brian Eno - Everything That Happens
10 - No Age - Eraser
10 - T-Pain Ft. Chris Brown - Freeze
10 - Kylie Minogue - Heart Beat Rock (Benny Blanco Remix Feat. Spank Rock)
10 - Wideboys Feat Shaznay Lewis - Daddio
10 - Mariah Carey - O.O.C.
10 - Heltah Skeltah - The Art Of Disrespekinazation
10 - Keri Hilson - Return The Favor
10 - DJ Mehdi - Pocket Piano (Joakim Remix)

9 - Mariah Carey - Touch My Body
9 - Kaskade - 4 AM (Adam K & Soha Remix)
9 - Myriam Fares - Mosh Ananiya
9 - Panic! At The Disco - Nine In The Afternoon
9 - Mock & Toof - Big Hands For A Lady
9 - Audion - Billy Says Go
8 - Dancing Days - Hitten
8 - Lil Kim - Fuck You
8 - Cassy - April
8 - Sway Featuring Stush - F Ur X
8 - Jazmine Sullivan - Bust Your Windows
7 - Booka Shade - Charlotte
7 - Raveonettes, The - Blush
7 - Sam Sparro - 21st Century Life
7 - Hot Chip - We're Looking For A Lot Of Love
7 - Prgz - Bama Gettin' Money
7 - High Places - From Stardust To Sentience
6 - Roska - Feeline (VIP Mix)
6 - Fake Blood - Mars
6 - 3 6 Mafia (Featuring Project Pat, Young D, And Superpower) - Lolli Lolli (Pop That Body)
6 - Eric Prydz - Pjanoo
6 - Mariah Carey - Lovin' You Long Time
6 - Roots, The - 75 Bars (Black's Reconstruction)
6 - Chymera - Parelo (Original Mix)
6 - Ting Tings, The - Shut Up And Let Me Go
5 - Akon - I'm So Paid
5 - Shortwave Set, The - No Social (Optimo Espacio Mix)
5 - Shackleton - Death Is Not Final
5 - T.I. - I'm Illy
5 - Britney Spears - Unusual You
5 - Ting Tings, The - Great DJ
5 - Kylie Minogue - Wow
5 - Sam Sparro - Black & Gold
5 - Woolfy vs. Projections - Absynth
4 - Kings Of Leon - Sex On Fire
4 - Mark E & Dragon - Good Times
4 - Bon Iver - Blindsided
4 - Wire - Perspex Icon
4 - DJ V - If You
4 - Tough Alliance, The - Lucky
4 - Bird And The Bee, The - Birthday
4 - Panthers - Goblin City (Holy Ghost! Remix)
4 - LSB - Loco Motion
3 - Veronicas, The - This Love
3 - Delinquent Ft. Kcat - Get On The Floor (Delio D'Cruz Remix)
3 - Wolfgang Gartner - Circles
3 - Ray J - Sexy Can I
3 - Black Moth Super Rainbow - Zodiac Girls
3 - Sugarush Beat Company - Sugarush (Jamie Duggan Meets Da Booda Suga Lik Refix)
3 - Lullabies In The Dark - Code 742
2 - Janet Jackson - Feedback
2 - Rufus Wainwright & Supermayer - Lost In Tiergarten
2 - Taio Cruz - Come On Girl
2 - Ying Yang Twins Feat Gucci Mane - Drop
2 - Tim Green - Revox (Justin Martin Mix)
2 - Peverelist - Infinity Is Now
2 - Juliana Hatfield - Such A Beautiful Girl
2 - Jurgen Paape - Come Into My Life
1 - Animal Collective - Cobwebs
1 - Oracy - Hold Me
1 - Nas Ft Keri Hilson - Hero
1 - Ayumi Hamasaki - Part Of Me (Carl Craig Remix)
1 - Madonna & Justin Timberlake - 4 Minutes
1 - Arto Mwambe - Une Suele Nuit (Mix De Danse)

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:54 (sixteen years ago)

lol @ max

Was just thinking about how I went to see Hercules & Love Affair a few months ago, and the best thing about the show was hearing the opening DJ play "Happy House," which sounded amazing in a club.

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:54 (sixteen years ago)

damn that top 4 is awesome. no other songs i voted for made the countdown until #4, and then #2 and now #1.

all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:54 (sixteen years ago)

The Rip did win Portishead - Third (THE POLL)

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:55 (sixteen years ago)

^^this is not actually a profound revelation, like, in the slightest, it's a feeling which is barely important enough to mention in passing on a livejournal, let alone have a pop song about

Dude, it's fucking rock and roll - the documentation of all of youth's woes, simple or complex, is what it's all about!

Doctor Casino, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:55 (sixteen years ago)

pretty great list imho

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:55 (sixteen years ago)

btw it's not missing the point to pick your favorite song from an album and nominate and vote for it in a songs poll - it's actually exactly the point

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:56 (sixteen years ago)

Non singles = Lindstrom, HMHB, the Air France ones, maybe The Rip.

1 - Madonna & Justin Timberlake - 4 Minutes

This is hilarious.

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:56 (sixteen years ago)

WAU @ "Happy House" coming within mere points of winning the poll. I thought it would place at like, #18.

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:57 (sixteen years ago)

46.5 - Pussycat Dolls - I Hate This Part
37.5 - Teedra Moses - So Kool
32 - Wookie Ft Ny - Falling Again
21 - Trina Ft. Killer Mike - Look Back At Me

^^^heyyyy who was with me on these ones? show your faces so i can give u a hi-5 <3

lex pretend, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:57 (sixteen years ago)

TVOTR & Badu also non-singles

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:57 (sixteen years ago)

1 - Madonna & Justin Timberlake - 4 Minutes

This is hilarious.

― Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC)

i wanted to put a list together of the things that didn't get ANY votes just for the lulz but it would be wayy too much work.

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:58 (sixteen years ago)

Dude, it's fucking rock and roll - the documentation of all of youth's woes, simple or complex, is what it's all about!

no no no no no no no just everything about that sentence makes me break out in hives

lex pretend, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:58 (sixteen years ago)

Thanks very much for putting this together musically, I owe you five pleasant evenings

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:58 (sixteen years ago)

"The Rip" was the second single from Third btw

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:58 (sixteen years ago)

I gave "I Hate This Part" 9 pts

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:58 (sixteen years ago)

oh and btw...

MUSICALLY IS AN ABSOLUTE HERO AND WE <3 HER!

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:59 (sixteen years ago)

oh yeah hi-5 and <3 <3 to musically obv. AND she voted for 'i hate this part'. the best ilxor!

lex pretend, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:59 (sixteen years ago)

damn my #1 (The Fall) just missed being top 50. I can take consolation in that.

sleeve, Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:02 (sixteen years ago)

Sleeve, I haven't heard that Fall song but I gave it a point or 2 on account of having seen descriptions of it. If I'd known, I'd have given it a few more.

Robin van Injury (country matters), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:03 (sixteen years ago)

"11 minutes of MES ranting about his age over varied and raucous instrumentation, including a crazed banjo" sounds like a riot IMO

Robin van Injury (country matters), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:04 (sixteen years ago)

btw it's not missing the point to pick your favorite song from an album and nominate and vote for it in a songs poll - it's actually exactly the point

I think the point is when it applies to albums that are well more than the sum of their parts.

The Reverend (rev), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:05 (sixteen years ago)

A+++++ job, musically

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:06 (sixteen years ago)

Yes, bravo once again to musically! God these polls are fun - and I'm finding some great new music too.

1 - Madonna & Justin Timberlake - 4 Minutes

This is hilarious.

I think that might have been me! Mainly for Timb's opening address and my conviction that everybody's actually saying "varmints."

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:09 (sixteen years ago)

thanks everyone, and thanks for participating too, since i started doing this the number of ballots and votes has gone up considerably. like i said when i first started something with 2 votes made the top 50 so this is a lot better. and thanks to whoever set up ILX so youtube videos could embed, saves me the effort of finding a single cover and makes the poll a bit more interactive.

i'll start albums on Monday. there is definitely some craziness going on with the results so hopefully it will be as interesting.

lil waynes babymama (musically), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:09 (sixteen years ago)

*hopes that aforementioned craziness involves some sort of Late Of The Pier top-3 placing*

Robin van Injury (country matters), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:10 (sixteen years ago)

from the top 50
Portishead: 387.5
Lil Wayne: 388 (ex. Cassie)
Aeroplane: 430.5
MGMT: 436
Kanye: 528 (incl. Estelle & Jeezy)

danzig, Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:11 (sixteen years ago)

hen i first started something with 2 votes made the top 50

That was awesome tho! Something from a Yemeni oud festival that Rocket Scientist and Sundar voted for iirc?

The Reverend (rev), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:12 (sixteen years ago)

I suspect a lack of metal due to the metal poll and everyone will have voted for mostly non-metal stuff(myself included hehe) Still a few albums that ranked high should sneak in the top 50 unless people didnt vote in both.
But I wouldnt be surprised if it missed out too!

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:12 (sixteen years ago)

actually I take back the M.I.A. vitriol if it means LADY GAGA isn't in the top 50.

danzig, Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:13 (sixteen years ago)

And yeh, cheers musically! I'll be going through all of that lot soon enough, seeing if I really did miss out on some stuff I'd have liked.

I think the two highest-placed metal tracks in this poll were ones I nommed :D and one of which (Torche) came fairly close to placing.

Robin van Injury (country matters), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:14 (sixteen years ago)

thank you musically. I also gave "i hate this part" some love.

danzig, Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:15 (sixteen years ago)

ah yes

50. Ahmad Fathi - La Tisafir
(39 points, 2 votes, 1 number one)

http://ilx2006music.googlepages.com/50.JPG

Thoughts? Streaming link?

― musically, Tuesday, May 1, 2007 12:20 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Ahmed Fathi is a singer and oudist from Yemen (I think it's Yemen) and I voted for him because Sundar nominated him and I figured, okay, what the heck, lets vote for Ahmed Fathi then. But the track in question is just part of this wonderful collection that resulted from an oud festival:

http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000HT2J94.01._SS400_SCLZZZZZZZ_V59714698_.jpg

It's a good piece though.

(I never expected it to actually make the list. I guess this is the best evidence that this poll needed more participants.)

― Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, May 1, 2007 6:45 PM Bookmark

The Reverend (rev), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:15 (sixteen years ago)

from the early days of the "blind" hype sometime in late '07, i've been trying to share the enthusiasm and have never mustered more than mild appreciation. it's ok, but, you know, it's no ting tings ... (i did have "hercules theme" on my ballot, tho)

(and oh yeah THANKS! musically. nice job.)

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:16 (sixteen years ago)

and guess who voted for them :)
x-post to lj

Oh yeah thanks for this musically!

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:16 (sixteen years ago)

xp Have you tried the Frankie Knuckles and/or Hercules Club mixes? One of them might be more your speed.

The Reverend (rev), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:17 (sixteen years ago)

this was my trax ballot btw:

TRACKS (non-ordered)

Wookie Ft Ny - Falling Again
Paleface W/ Kyla - Do You Mind (Crazy Cousinz Remix)
Perempay & Dee Ft. Katie Pearl - In The Air
Ciara - Echo
Cassie - 2 The Morning
Cassie - Official Girl
Hood Headlinaz F/ Jackie Chain & Jhi-Ali - Rollin'
T2 Feat. Addictive - Gonna Be Mine
Teedra Moses - So Kool
Trina Ft. Killer Mike - Look Back At Me
Lil Wayne - A Milli
Young Jeezy Ft. Kanye West - Put On
Kelley Polar - Entropy Reigns
Pussycat Dolls - I Hate This Part
Joker - Gully Brook Lane
Estelle Feat. Kanye West - American Boy
Wiley - If You're Going Out I'm Going Out Too
Crazy Cousinz - Bongo Jam
Lil Mama - Shawty Get Loose (Feat. Chris Brown & T-Pain)
D-Malice - Gabryelle Refix

lex pretend, Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:18 (sixteen years ago)

Damn if you'd ordered that we might well have got Do You Mind into the top 50.

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:22 (sixteen years ago)

(Okay maybe not)

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:22 (sixteen years ago)

my tracks (ordered):

Juan Maclean, The - Happy House
Lil Wayne - A Milli
Erykah Badu - The Cell
Crazy Cousinz - Bongo Jam
Grind Mode - I'm So High
Hood Headlinaz F/ Jackie Chain & Jhi-Ali - Rollin'
Hercules & Love Affair - Blind (Frankie Knuckles Remix)
Janet Jackson - Rock With U
Young Jeezy Ft. Kanye West - Put On
Solange Knowles - I Decided Pt. 1
Hot Stylz F/ Yung Joc - Lookin' Boy
Enur Feat. Natasja - Calabria 2008
Jim Jones - Pop Champagne
Portishead - Machine Gun
Roots, The - 75 Bars (Black's Reconstruction)
Ne-Yo - Closer
Treasure Fingers - Cross The Dancefloor
Lloyd - Girls Around The World
Wiley - Wearing My Rolex
Jazmine Sullivan - Need U Bad

The Reverend (rev), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:23 (sixteen years ago)

Many many many thanks to musically for undertaking this giant task. SO FUN

Tracks (Ordered)

Ida Maria - Oh My God
Vampire Weekend - Oxford Comma
Golden Silvers - Arrows Of Eros
Whitey - Do The Nothing
Alphabeat - Fascination
Ebony Bones - We Know All About You
Santogold - L.E.S. Artistes
MGMT - Kids
Empire Of The Sun - Waking On A Dream
Portishead - The Rip
Lykke Li - I'm Good, I'm Gone
Estelle Feat. Kanye West - American Boy
Hot Chip - Ready For The Floor
Beyonce - Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It)
Santogold - Lights Out
Lady Gaga - Just Dance
Bon Iver - Blindsided
M83 - Graveyard Girl
Taio Cruz - Come On Girl
Leona Lewis - Bleeding Love

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:24 (sixteen years ago)

Tracks (ordered)

Aeroplane - Whispers
Sally Shapiro - I'll Be By Your Side (Tensnake Remix)
Gang Gang Dance Feat. Tinchy Stryder - Princes
Wiley - Wearing My Rolex
Crazy Cousinz - Bongo Jam
Kelly Rowland - Work (Freemasons Remix)
Friendly Fires - Paris (Feat. Au Revoir Simone)(Aeroplane Remix)
Hercules & Love Affair - Blind
Jennifer Hudson - Spotlight (Quentin Harris Mix)
Paleface W/ Kyla - Do You Mind (Crazy Cousinz Remix)
Sis - Trompeta
Cut Copy - Hearts On Fire
Cassie - Official Girl
Booka Shade - Charlotte
Wiley - If You're Going Out I'm Going Out Too
T.I. Feat Ludacris - On Top Of The World
Enur Feat. Natasja - Calabria 2008
Lullabies In The Dark - Code 742
Jurgen Paape - Come Into My Life
Ciara - Echo

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:25 (sixteen years ago)

Ordered:

Cassie - Official Girl
Omar-S - Psychotic Photosynthesis
Teedra Moses - So Kool
Jazmine Sullivan - Dream Big
Ciara - Echo
DJ Koze - I Want To Sleep
Ne-Yo - Single
Dirk Leyers - Alma
Portable - Release
Richard Bartz - Diamond Girl
Keri Hilson - Return The Favor
Lloyd - Girls Around The World
Britney Spears - Break The Ice
Matias Aguayo - Minimal (Dj Koze Maxi Version)
Mariah Carey - Lovin' You Long Time
Janet Jackson - Rock With U
Sound Stream - Live Goes On
Luomo Ft. Sascha Ring Aka Apparat - Love You All
Hercules & Love Affair - Blind (Frankie Knuckles Remix)
John Daly - Solitaire

lou, Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:25 (sixteen years ago)

Jazmine Sullivan - Need U Bad

sacrificed my jazmine trax in the hope that the album will place...couldn't decide between my favourites ('in love with another man' and 'lions, tigers & bears') and the most likely track to place ('need u bad') anyway

lex pretend, Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:26 (sixteen years ago)

I didn't vote the album. For some reason I played the hell out of it when it first came out then could no longer stand it at all.

The Reverend (rev), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:28 (sixteen years ago)

DavidM, Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:28 (sixteen years ago)

new youtube embed formatting has kinda ruined potentially good zings hasn't it?

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:29 (sixteen years ago)

Jennifer Hudson - Spotlight (Quentin Harris Mix)

biggest regret not voting for this - couldn't decide between og and rmx, not that it would've mattered. that song was a bigger part of my 08 than some that i did vote for.

lex pretend, Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:29 (sixteen years ago)

tracks ranked

Esoteric - Circle
Bug, The - Poison Dart (Ft/ Warrior Queen
Portishead - Machine Gun
Portishead - The Rip
Torche - Amnesian
Jesu - Farewell (Alternative Version)
Larkin Grimm - Blond And Golden Johns
Paavoharju - Uskallan
Spiritualized - Soul On Fire
Belong - Late Night
Bug F/ Killa P & Flowdan, The - Skeng
Bug, The - Murder We (Featuring Ricky Ranking)
Half Man Half Biscuit - National Shite Day
Hold Steady, The - Sequestered In Memphis
Portishead - We Carry On
Ricardo Villalobos - Minimoonstar (Shackleton Remix)
Kathleen Edwards - I Make The Dough, You Get The Glory
Black Moth Super Rainbow - Zodiac Girls

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:29 (sixteen years ago)

TRACKS ORDERED

Jordin Sparks And Chris Brown - No Air
Tinchy Stryder - Stryderman
Grace Jones - Williams' Blood (Aeroplane Rmx)
Lil Mama - Shawty Get Loose (Feat. Chris Brown & T-Pain)
MGMT - Electric Feel
Friendly Fires - Paris (Feat. Au Revoir Simone)(Aeroplane Remix)
Presets, The - This Boy's In Love
Erykah Badu - Honey (Seiji Mix)
Mystery Jets W/ L. Marling - Young Love
Solange - Sandcastle Disco
Kylie Minogue - Heart Beat Rock (Benny Blanco Remix Feat. Spank Rock)
Kelly Rowland - Work (Freemasons Remix)
Jazmine Sullivan - Bust Your Windows
Bon Iver - Skinny Love
DJ Mujava - Township Funk
Cut Copy - Hearts On Fire
Estelle Feat. Kanye West - American Boy
Girls Aloud - The Promise
Pussycat Dolls - I Hate This Part
Hercules & Love Affair - Blind (Frankie Knuckles Remix)

danzig, Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:30 (sixteen years ago)

lol Pfunkboy and I were responsible for all of Esoteric's 37 points

Robin van Injury (country matters), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:35 (sixteen years ago)

Ordered:
Dizzee Rascal - Dance Wiv Me
MIA - Paper Planes
Estelle Feat. Kanye West - American Boy
Alphabeat -Boyfriend
Wiley - Wearing My Rolex
Coldplay - Violet Hill
Flo Rida - Low
Nu Brand Flexx - I Feel So Good
T2 - Heartbroken
Keane - Spiralling
Lady Gaga - Just Dance
Ne-Yo - Closer
Cassie - Official Girl
Sam Sparro - 21st Century Life
Rihanna - Please Don't Stop The Music (Wideboys Bassline Mix)
Crystal Castles - Courtship Dating
Ting Tings, The - Shut Up And Let Me Go
H Two O Ft Platnum - What’s It Gonna Be
Whitest Boy Alive, The - Golden Cage (Fred Falke Remix)
Sam Sparro - Black & Gold

The only one I was on my own for was 21st Century Life

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:37 (sixteen years ago)

I thought we might , LJ. I guess the metal voters didn't vote/only vote albums.

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:42 (sixteen years ago)

Have you tried the Frankie Knuckles and/or Hercules Club mixes? One of them might be more your speed.

yeah i like the frankie knuckles mix better, but the song just never puts it over for me. i don't dislike it or anything, it makes sense as an ilm consensus #1. just, for me, lacks a wow factor.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:43 (sixteen years ago)

it makes sense as an ilm consensus #1. just, for me, lacks a wow factor.

OTM

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:45 (sixteen years ago)

I dunno, if I think back to last summer, this felt like a Big Single

Plaxico (I know, right?), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:49 (sixteen years ago)

it is also possible i'd like it more if it was sung by, like, lonnie gordon. or even kathy diamond.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:52 (sixteen years ago)

Ordered

Juan Maclean, The - Happy House
Aeroplane - Whispers
MGMT - Electric Feel
Hot Chip - Ready For The Floor
Friendly Fires - Paris (Feat. Au Revoir Simone)(Aeroplane Remix)
Hercules & Love Affair - Blind
Kleerup Ft. Lykke Li - Until We Bleed
Sanatagold - Lights Out
Kanye West - Love Lockdown
M83 - Kim & Jessie
Quiet Village - Pillow Talk
Low Motion Disco -Love Love Love (Aeroplane Mix)
Sexy Kids - Sisters Are Forever
Lindstrom - The Long Way Home (Prins Thomas Edit)
Half Man Half Biscuit - National Shite Day
MIA - Paper Planes (DFA Remix)
David Byrne & Brian Eno - Everything That Happens
Dizzee Rascal - Dance Wiv Me
Panic! At The Disco - Nine In The Afternoon
Girls Aloud - The Promise

Admit the last three are pretty weak, but I was rushing and couldn't think of what to put there. Panic at the Disco was totally about Rock Band withdrawal, as that song was satisfyingly fun to play. Happy to contribute to the death of ILM anyways

Gukbe, Saturday, 7 February 2009 01:12 (sixteen years ago)

didn't vote, but had i it was gonna be this

ranked: Chris Brown - Forever
Ayumi Hamasaki - Part Of Me (Carl Craig Remix)
Cassie - Official Girl
Lil Wayne Feat. Static Major - Lollipop
Phil Collins - I'm Not Moving (Idjut Boys Remix)
Scarlett Johannson - Falling Down
Vampire Weekend - A-Punk
Kelley Polar - Entropy Reigns
Ne Yo - Closer
Kanye - West Love Lockdown
Lil Wayne - A Milli
Ciara - Echo
Fuck Buttons - Sweet Love for Planet Earth
Lil Wayne - Got Money
Matias Aguayo - Minimal
No Age - Eraser
Usher - Love In This Club
Hercules and Love Affair - Blind (frankie knuckles)
Ne Yo - Miss Independent
Morgan Geist - Detroit

Plaxico (I know, right?), Saturday, 7 February 2009 01:42 (sixteen years ago)

rollin rollin rollin we ain't slept in weeks

all my single lobsters put a ring on it (tpp), Saturday, 7 February 2009 01:48 (sixteen years ago)

Wow I really like a lot of these private lists.

I don't think I kept a copy of mine :-(

Thanks musically for doing this!

Tim F, Saturday, 7 February 2009 02:15 (sixteen years ago)

This list is shockingly terrible.. Each year the ILM singles poll usually includes at least a few hidden gems I had missed out on, which I was kind of counting on.. but this poll proves it. there were no hidden gems. 2008 = worst year for singles that has ever existed. not joking. The majority of these choices will be forgotten in less than 2 years. "Miss Independent" is like fifty times better than "Closer." Will rock ever recover?

billstevejim, Saturday, 7 February 2009 02:20 (sixteen years ago)

good question

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 7 February 2009 02:29 (sixteen years ago)

Will rock ever recover?

An ILM singles/trax poll is no way to judge the state of rock in 2008 from.
As soon as anything vaguely rock got a mention there was posters complaining!

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 7 February 2009 02:30 (sixteen years ago)

Even though I agree mainstream indie/rock is mostly shit these days

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 7 February 2009 02:31 (sixteen years ago)

I mean.. unless people who post/vote here, with their supposedly infinite musical wisdom, have all collectively decided to start enjoying shit all at the same time. .. I'm so disappointed.

billstevejim, Saturday, 7 February 2009 02:31 (sixteen years ago)

I like "A-Punk," but jeez.. remember when rock was exciting?

billstevejim, Saturday, 7 February 2009 02:33 (sixteen years ago)

is bilstevejim a bill magill sock? anyway, you should post your list homie. im interested in your non-disappointing list

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 7 February 2009 02:33 (sixteen years ago)

And yes, there were a few good 2008 rock albums.. it was a far better year for albums overall, but I just miss the days of killer rock singles. it's depressing.

billstevejim, Saturday, 7 February 2009 02:34 (sixteen years ago)

i didnt vote.

billstevejim, Saturday, 7 February 2009 02:35 (sixteen years ago)

I think rock is at it's most healthiest in Metal these days. If the poll ILX METAL ALBUMS OF THE YEAR 2008 RESULTS (NOW COUNTING DOWN THE TOP TEN, BTW) we ran is anything to go by, but I suspect most people wouldn't be the least bit interested in it. Even if Torche are very poppy (and a lot in that poll are considered not proper metal anyway). There's plenty of experimentation involved in other bands in that poll. But then again that can be said of a lot of rock that doesn't get covered by Pitchfork/NME that most people wont hear.
I don't believe rock is creatively dead in the underground. In the NME world then I think it's creatively dead if not commercially.

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 7 February 2009 02:36 (sixteen years ago)

but I just miss the days of killer rock singles. it's depressing.

Maybe there are killer rock songs that get ignored by the media. Wouldn't be a first. Radio is shit nowadays. Playlists are pretty much the same.

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 7 February 2009 02:38 (sixteen years ago)

why am i always asleep when this gets rolled out?

aside from "Happy House" and "Blind", that is a weird top 5. would've voted for "The Rip" had I remembered it and I like both versions of "Paris" a lot but am really surprised that it placed that high. also no Vampire Weekend woo!

and yay for musically! excellent work.

Disco/Very (Roz), Saturday, 7 February 2009 02:44 (sixteen years ago)

i guess i hadnt been keeping up on the ne-yo discussion, but i'm still really shocked that "mad" or especially "single" didnt get more love. i <3 everyone who voted for oM, and also "out of reaches" by malkmus and "i lost you" by the walkmen; the latter two i nominated just because they were non-single personal favs and didnt figure anyone else would notice

jammed hymen (k3vin k.), Saturday, 7 February 2009 02:45 (sixteen years ago)

im interested in your non-disappointing list

Once again, I didnt vote.. I'm not expecting anyone here to agree, especially since I'm tired of most 2008 music already.. But my favorite songs of the year were probably these 5.. "Teen Creeps" (No Age), "We're Looking For A Lot Of Love" (Hot Chip), "Soldiers Grin" (Wolf Parade), "Fascination" (Alphabeat), "God And Suicide" (Blitzen Trapper) .. Cut Copy, No Age, and Wolf Parade were the only albums I considered solid.

billstevejim, Saturday, 7 February 2009 02:48 (sixteen years ago)

Except for Hot Chip and Alphabeat, that's a bunch of downer stuff. Cheer up, billstevejim!

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 7 February 2009 02:49 (sixteen years ago)

if you don't vote, you can't complain

lil waynes babymama (musically), Saturday, 7 February 2009 02:49 (sixteen years ago)

"fascination" placed, if you didnt notice. also i would really hate to only have four records you liked in a year! or are you just talking about rock?

jammed hymen (k3vin k.), Saturday, 7 February 2009 02:50 (sixteen years ago)

Cut Copy makes me happy.

billstevejim, Saturday, 7 February 2009 02:50 (sixteen years ago)

I would have voted but um.. I forgot.. I liked lots of various album tracks (it was actually a decent year for those), but those were the only 3 albums where I liked every song.

billstevejim, Saturday, 7 February 2009 02:51 (sixteen years ago)

2009 will be good.. I have faith.

billstevejim, Saturday, 7 February 2009 02:52 (sixteen years ago)

That Hot Chip song is a downer actually..

billstevejim, Saturday, 7 February 2009 02:53 (sixteen years ago)

boy was that no age album ever overrated. but i guess there'll be time to talk about that on the albums poll...

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 7 February 2009 02:54 (sixteen years ago)

not sure about wolf parade but i think no age and cut copy def will get some love on the albums thread so relax. xp

Disco/Very (Roz), Saturday, 7 February 2009 02:55 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, No Age got robbed (would've liked to have seen "Eraser" place myself), as did The Walkmen. Whatevs. I forgot to vote, so I can't really complain (I generally liked most of the stuff on the list anyway)

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Saturday, 7 February 2009 02:59 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, there's definitely nothing on the list that I actively hate (just don't think "Happy House" is so great, but whatevs).

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 7 February 2009 03:07 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i had not even heard of that track before this thread, and when i listened to it, i jsut thought "hm this is like a slightly above-average DFA track". then i found out it actually was a slightly above average (imo) DFA track. apparently there was more to/of the song though?

jammed hymen (k3vin k.), Saturday, 7 February 2009 03:16 (sixteen years ago)

Ordered:

B-52's, The - Eyes Wide Open
Wiley - Wearing My Rolex
Erykah Badu - The Healer
Ida Maria - Oh My God
Lykke Li - I'm Good, I'm Gone
Randy Newman - Feels Like Home
Neon Neon - I Told Her On Alderaan (Richard X Mix)
Torche - Amnesian
Sigur Rós - Gobbledigook
Kleerup Ft. Lykke Li - Until We Bleed
MIA - Paper Planes
School Of Seven Bells - Half Asleep
Portishead - The Rip
Q-Tip - Gettin' Up
Dizzee Rascal - Dance Wiv Me
Goldfrapp - A & E
Lambchop - Natl Talk Like A Pirate Day
Lykke Li - Little Bit
Al Green - Lay It Down
Guns N' Roses - Better

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 7 February 2009 03:18 (sixteen years ago)

TRAX (not ordered):
Ne-Yo - Closer
John Legend F/ Andre 3000 - Green Light
Young Jeezy - Circulate
Jordin Sparks And Chris Brown - No Air
Sara Bareilles - Love Song
Jazmine Sullivan - Need U Bad
Erykah Badu - Soldier
Nine Inch Nails - 1,000,000
Raphael Saadiq - Big Easy
Young Jeezy Ft. Kanye West - Put On
Pink - So What
Hot Stylz F/ Yung Joc - Lookin' Boy
Soulja Boy Tell 'Em - Donk
Katy Perry - Hot N Cold
Cherish - Killa (Feat. Yung Joc)
Ne-Yo - Miss Independent
Usher - Trading Places
Trina Ft. Killer Mike - Look Back At Me
Ryan Leslie - Addiction Remix (Ft/ Cassie And Fabolous)
Guns N' Roses - Better

some dude, Saturday, 7 February 2009 04:44 (sixteen years ago)

Listening to this "Blind" for the first time now and...huh. Seems definitely not intended for me. Not that it's hostile or something - I just mean that while I don't know anything about dance (?) music, some of the other dance (?) things on this thread managed to prick up my ears, whereas this just kind of slips by. Just weird to find that in a #1, oh well.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 7 February 2009 04:51 (sixteen years ago)

(Not saying that it has to check off my personal boxes to be good, just that I'd sort of expected the top ten to be nothing but crossover hits appealing to all segments of ILM, or something.)

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 7 February 2009 04:51 (sixteen years ago)

Tracks, not ordered:

Cure, The - Underneath The Stars
Erykah Badu - Soldier
Erykah Badu - The Healer
Gang Gang Dance - House Jam
Hercules & Love Affair - Blind
Hercules And Love Affair - You Belong
Jamie Lidell - Another Day
Kanye West - Heartless
Kanye West - Love Lockdown
Lil Wayne - Got Money
Lil Wayne Feat. Static Major - Lollipop
M83 - Kim & Jessie
Mountain Goats, The - Sax Rohmer #1
Portishead - Machine Gun
Portishead - We Carry On
Rihanna - Disturbia
Rihanna - Rehab
Spiritualized - Soul On Fire
T.I. Feat. Rihanna - Live Your Life
Taylor Swift - Love Story

ilxor, Saturday, 7 February 2009 05:20 (sixteen years ago)

Also... I would have voted for these, had I connected with them in time for the poll like I do now:

49 - Air France - No Excuses (70 points, 5 votes, 1 #1 vote)
46 - The Bug - Poison Dart feat. Warrior Queen (75.5 points, 7 votes)
33 - Lindstrøm - The Long Way Home (97 points, 10 votes; 3 votes, 23 points for Prins Thomas Edit)
27 - Alphabeat - Fascination (111 points, 7 votes, 2 #1 votes)
2 - Juan Maclean, The - Happy House (314 points, 22 votes, 8 #1 votes)

ilxor, Saturday, 7 February 2009 05:24 (sixteen years ago)

Great work Musically. Having done one of the polls a few years ago I know how much work goes into it and I think you had about 30 more ballots than when I did it.

Discovered a few things which I'll have to check out now, most shockingly 'Happy House', didn't rate them much when they surfaced a few years ago so ignored this when it came out. Will have to see what all the fuss is about.

Shallow Gravy (Billy Dods), Saturday, 7 February 2009 07:11 (sixteen years ago)

I just want to add my appreciation for musically. Great poll, can't wait for the next one!

. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 7 February 2009 07:53 (sixteen years ago)

musically, thanks for all the work. looking forward to the albums poll.

whatever, Saturday, 7 February 2009 08:06 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, great job on dis poll. Here's my ordered ballot. Happy I wasn't the only one on the Mole song and the Rubies remix.

Usher - Love In The Club
Young Jeezy Ft. Kanye West - Put On
Dop - I'm Just A Man
Cassie - Official Girl
Jordin Sparks And Chris Brown - No Air
Juan Maclean, The - Happy House
Rubies - Room Without A Key (Studio Version)
Bug, The - Poison Dart (Ft/ Warrior Queen)
Aeroplane - Whispers
Paleface W/ Kyla - Do You Mind (Crazy Cousinz Remix)
Mole, The - Baby, You're The One
Erykah Badu - The Healer
Hercules & Love Affair - Blind
Wiley - Wearing My Rolex
Little Boots - Stuck On Repeat
Ryan Leslie - Addiction Remix (Ft/ Cassie And Fabolous)
Ida Maria - Oh My God
Solange Knowles - I Decided Pt. 1
T.I. Feat. Rihanna - Live Your Life
Lil Wayne - A Milli

Maciej (maciej recognizing trill), Saturday, 7 February 2009 08:49 (sixteen years ago)

Musically thanks again for doing this, and doing this so good!

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 7 February 2009 11:39 (sixteen years ago)

I agree, that was awesome.

Snowballing, Saturday, 7 February 2009 11:42 (sixteen years ago)

lololol (ordered):

Volcano - Palimpsests
Half Man Half Biscuit - National Shite Day
Late Of The Pier - The Enemy Are The Future
Esoteric - Circle
Chap, The - Proper Rock
Youthmovies - Surtsey
Thomas White - The Silence Stops Tonight
Torche - Amnesian
Shit And Shine - Toilet Door Tits
Virgin Passages - This Is Not The End Of The World Again
Late Of The Pier - Focker
M83 - Couleurs
Mogwai - The Sun Smells Too Lou
Portishead - Machine Gun
TV On The Radio - Halfway Home
M83 - Graveyard Girl
Fall, The - 50 Year Old Man
Portishead - The Rip
Portishead - We Carry On
Los Campesinos! - My Year In Lists

I think I need to hear a bit more R&B/dancepop, y'all need to hear a bit more alt/experimental rock, yah, deal?

Robin van Injury (country matters), Saturday, 7 February 2009 12:50 (sixteen years ago)

46.5 - Pussycat Dolls - I Hate This Part
37.5 - Teedra Moses - So Kool
32 - Wookie Ft Ny - Falling Again
21 - Trina Ft. Killer Mike - Look Back At Me

^^^heyyyy who was with me on these ones? show your faces so i can give u a hi-5 <3

eight points from me for "I Hate This Part". hopefully i'm gonna go see them live in a few weeks time!

btw big thank you for all this to musically from a semi-lurker

Mind Taker, Saturday, 7 February 2009 13:08 (sixteen years ago)

i definitely voted for "Look Back At Me," was really happy to see it got nominated

some dude, Saturday, 7 February 2009 14:25 (sixteen years ago)

ordered, I had to reach a bit for some of these cause I am much more of an album person than a track person...

Fall, The - 50 Year Old Man
Kelley Polar - Entropy Reigns
El Guincho - Palmitos Park
MIA - Paper Planes
Bjork - Earth Intruders (Xxxhchange Remix)
Fall, The - Wolf Kidult Man
Paavoharju - Uskallan
Portishead - Machine Gun
Fall, The - Taurig
Stereolab - Three Women
Wire - One Of Us
David Byrne And Brian Eno - Strange Overtones
Bug, The - Poison Dart (Ft/ Warrior Queen)
Beck - Gamma Ray
David Byrne & Brian Eno - Everything That Happens
Portishead - The Rip
Spiritualized - Soul On Fire
Wire - Perspex Icon
MIA - Paper Planes (DFA Remix)
B-52's, The - Eyes Wide Open

in retrospect I should have placed that B-52s track much higher.

sleeve, Saturday, 7 February 2009 15:28 (sixteen years ago)

My ballot (ordered):

Air France - No Excuses
MGMT - Electric Feel
TV On The Radio - Family Tree
Anoraak - Nightdrive With You
Chris Brown - With You
Portishead - The Rip
Cut Copy - So Haunted
MGMT - Time To Pretend
Air France - Collapsing At Your Doorstep
Juan Maclean, The - Happy House
Kanye West - Love Lockdown
Audion - Billy Says Go
TV On The Radio - Golden Age
Cut Copy - Hearts On Fire
Eric Prydz - Pjanoo <------- never heard of this before someone made the case for it in the voting thread
Grace Jones - Williams' Blood (Aeroplane Rmx)
Portishead - Machine Gun
Wolfgang Gartner - Circles
High Places - From Stardust To Sentience <-------- disappointed this didn't place higher
TV On The Radio - Halfway Home


I nominated Benga, 26 Basslines, and then forgot to vote for it.

Paul in Santa Cruz, Saturday, 7 February 2009 16:59 (sixteen years ago)

& would definitely have voted for Alphabeat, Fascination, if I'd heard it in time.

Paul in Santa Cruz, Saturday, 7 February 2009 17:06 (sixteen years ago)

Nice "Paris" mix by Justus Kohncke...

the who cares (okamax), Saturday, 7 February 2009 17:06 (sixteen years ago)

nice

Plaxico (I know, right?), Saturday, 7 February 2009 17:18 (sixteen years ago)

the #1 vote for "A Milli" was me btw :)

Conti Rice (Curt1s Stephens), Saturday, 7 February 2009 18:12 (sixteen years ago)

I was the #1 for Ida Maria. I can see myself still listening to that song in 10 years.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 7 February 2009 18:19 (sixteen years ago)

1. Musically: huge, huge respect.

2. Anyone who said anything even remotely like "wau wau wau why can't everyone like the same music as me s'not fair" and has failed to appreciate that ILM is a broad church of sometimes impressively diverse opinion: respect withdrawn, at least temporarily.

3. My list (ordered):

Temper Trap, The - Sweet Disposition
Kylie Minogue - The One
Mountain Goats, The - San Bernadino
Jesu - Farewell (Alternative Version)
MGMT - Time To Pretend
TV On The Radio - Family Tree
Fuck Buttons - Sweet Love For Planet Earth
Friendly Fires - Paris (Feat. Au Revoir Simone)(Aeroplane Remix)
Mogwai - The Sun Smells Too Loud
TV On The Radio - Halfway Home
Fall, The - 50 Year Old Man
M83 - Couleurs
Santogold - L.E.S. Artistes
Ting Tings, The - That's Not My Name
Portishead - Machine Gun
Wire - One Of Us
M83 - We Own The Sky
David Byrne And Brian Eno - Strange Overtones
Sigur Ros - Ara Batur
Goldfrapp - A & E

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 7 February 2009 19:19 (sixteen years ago)

this is what i turned in

(ordered)
TRAX
Young Jeezy Ft. Kanye West - Put On
Juan Maclean, The - Happy House
Grind Mode - I'm So High
Wiley - Wearing My Rolex
Lil Wayne - A Milli
Ne-Yo - Miss Independent
Hood Headlinaz F/ Jackie Chain & Jhi-Ali - Rollin'
Chris Brown - Forever
Los Campesinos! - My Year In Lists

Kanye West - Love Lockdown
T-Pain Ft. Chris Brown - Freeze
Wiley - If You're Going Out I'm Going Out Too
Wiz Khalifa - Say Yeah
Deerhunter - Nothing Ever Happened
Ne-Yo - Closer
T-Pain - Chopped N Skrewed
Young Jeezy - Circulate
T-Pain - Can't Believe It
Ciara - Echo
Jazmine Sullivan - Need U Bad

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 7 February 2009 19:28 (sixteen years ago)

yeah musically, this was really great!

here's my ordered list (statistical outlier = me)

Coyote - Too Hard (Aeroplane Mix)
DJ Koze - I Want To Sleep
Erykah Badu - The Cell
Kelley Polar - Entropy Reigns
Beck - Gamma Ray
Jamie Lloyd - May I? (Quarion Mix)
Roisin Murphy - You Know Me Better
Luomo Ft. Sascha Ring Aka Apparat - Love You All
Barbara Morgenstern - Come To Berlin (Telefon Tel Aviv Mix)
Ricardo Villalobos - Minimoonstar (Shackleton Remix)
Omar-S - Psychotic Photosynthesis
Syclops - Where's Jason's K?
Cassy - April
Hercules & Love Affair - Blind
My My - Everybody's Talkin
Dirk Leyers - Alma
Matias Aguayo - Minimal
Grace Jones - Williams' Blood (Aeroplane Rmx)
Britney Spears - Piece Of Me
Oracy - Hold Me
Richard Bartz - Diamond Girl

tricky, Saturday, 7 February 2009 19:47 (sixteen years ago)

I've just looked back on the 2007 list and this one was way better.

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Saturday, 7 February 2009 20:44 (sixteen years ago)

^yeah

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 7 February 2009 21:01 (sixteen years ago)

eight points from me for "I Hate This Part". hopefully i'm gonna go see them live in a few weeks time!

they are GREAT live. nicole is a force of nature.

i definitely voted for "Look Back At Me," was really happy to see it got nominated

it was ages before i realised it was basically trina's 'a milli' - not consciously i don't think, but they work in exactly the same way, a sparse beat which is barely there and totally extra at the same time, which just magnifies trina/wayne spitting o_0 weirdness.

lex pretend, Saturday, 7 February 2009 21:09 (sixteen years ago)

also regretting not voting for brandy's '1st & love' now

lex pretend, Saturday, 7 February 2009 21:10 (sixteen years ago)

the friendly fires aeroplane remix was a great recent revelation which i may well have voted for had i heard it in time - avoided it as hated the original but it's SO GOOOOD

lex pretend, Saturday, 7 February 2009 21:15 (sixteen years ago)

yeah luckily it's nothing like the original at all.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 7 February 2009 21:15 (sixteen years ago)

exactly. it really should have been voted as a separate track. best find due to this poll for me by far.

fhuck crank (Ioannis), Saturday, 7 February 2009 21:21 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i had not even heard of that track before this thread, and when i listened to it, i jsut thought "hm this is like a slightly above-average DFA track". then i found out it actually was a slightly above average (imo) DFA track. apparently there was more to/of the song though?

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― jammed hymen (k3vin k.), Friday, February 6, 2009 7:16 PM Bookmark

Yes, the whole song is 13 minutes long and has a couple whole distinct movements to it that aren't in the youtube video. If it didn't have those other parts it would just be a really good DFA track, but with them it is WAU.

The Reverend, Saturday, 7 February 2009 21:39 (sixteen years ago)

i will track the full vers down

jammed hymen (k3vin k.), Saturday, 7 February 2009 21:51 (sixteen years ago)

hang on what 13 mins?? i've been listening to a 9-min one all year, maybe this is why it's like my 30th favourite track and not 1st. 13 minutes! show me!

lex pretend, Saturday, 7 February 2009 21:54 (sixteen years ago)

ill upload it and hit you two on last.fm

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 7 February 2009 21:55 (sixteen years ago)

and me please?

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 7 February 2009 22:02 (sixteen years ago)

The streaming 12 minute version can be found here (wow, quick Google search, imagine that!):

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/download/49152-the-juan-maclean-happy-house-stream

Also, here:

http://www.prefixmag.com/media/the-juan-maclean/happy-house/17681/

ilxor, Saturday, 7 February 2009 22:09 (sixteen years ago)

The 9-minute version that surfaced first was cut out of a mix. There's a whole nother section that didn't get used in that mix.

The Reverend, Saturday, 7 February 2009 22:10 (sixteen years ago)

The full-length version is also available as a full track on Last.fm. I know because I listened to it earlier this evening. It bored me shitless.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 7 February 2009 22:13 (sixteen years ago)

Actually, no: there was one interesting bit towards the end when the bass got slightly evil. But, y'know, that still left 11'30" of tedium.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 7 February 2009 22:14 (sixteen years ago)

I truly think most of Juan's debut album is better than "Happy House," which is nice but in no way exceptional or terrific.

ilxor, Saturday, 7 February 2009 22:23 (sixteen years ago)

I'd also take three or four songs on the Hercules album before I'd pick "Blind" as the go-to track. But that's Internet era consensus for you...

ilxor, Saturday, 7 February 2009 22:23 (sixteen years ago)

Sorry to braek hart, Rev, but the four minutes of Happy House posted above actually made me not want to track down the other 8, it just seems so mundane

Robin van Injury (country matters), Saturday, 7 February 2009 22:24 (sixteen years ago)

(but I can probably be fairly accused of having little ear for what makes a great house track)

Robin van Injury (country matters), Saturday, 7 February 2009 22:25 (sixteen years ago)

thankig u in advance j0rdan, u a bro. ill pick it up when i get back tonight

jammed hymen (k3vin k.), Saturday, 7 February 2009 22:27 (sixteen years ago)

Thanks Jordan!

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 7 February 2009 23:06 (sixteen years ago)

np

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 7 February 2009 23:08 (sixteen years ago)

Bits of it remind me of what I liked about Tide-era Matthew Dear, but not as much.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 8 February 2009 00:21 (sixteen years ago)

Tracks (ordered)
Cassie - Official Girl
Jordin Sparks And Chris Brown - No Air
David Archuleta - Crush
Young Jeezy Ft. Kanye West - Put On
Beyonce - Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It)
Santogold - L.E.S. Artistes
Lil Wayne - A Milli
Colby O'Donis - What You Got(Ft Akon)
Mahjongg - Rise Rice
Rihanna - Rehab
Lil Mama - L.I.F.E.
Adele - Chasing Pavements
Cherish - Killa (Feat. Yung Joc)
Ida Maria - Oh My God
Paleface W/ Kyla - Do You Mind (Crazy Cousinz Remix)
Kleerup Feat. Lykke Li - Until We Bleed (Mikael's Cello Version)
Hercules & Love Affair - Blind
Mariah Carey - Touch My Body
Juan Maclean, The - Happy House
MGMT - Kids

Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Sunday, 8 February 2009 00:26 (sixteen years ago)

1. Big thanks to musically for doing this.
2. Nice results, tho' I don't like the #1 and haven't heard the #2.
3. Hearts to whoever else voted for Stereolab and for "Clowns".

Jeff W, Sunday, 8 February 2009 12:09 (sixteen years ago)

oh yes, endless <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3 for musically!!!!! great job

Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Sunday, 8 February 2009 19:11 (sixteen years ago)

excited for albums list, this was a great traxx list imo

jammed hymen (k3vin k.), Sunday, 8 February 2009 19:12 (sixteen years ago)

These were my tracks, non-ordered. Would definitely have voted for the "Paris" Aeroplane mix if I'd heard it in time.

Beyonce - If I Were A Boy
Beyonce - Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It)
Blackout Crew - Put A Donk On It
Crazy Cousinz - Bongo Jam
Donaeo - African Warrior
Estelle Feat. Kanye West - American Boy
Geeneus ft. Katy B - As I
Goldfrapp - A & E
Grace Jones - Williams' Blood
H Two O Ft Platnum - What’s It Gonna Be
Hercules & Love Affair - Blind
Hold Steady, The - Sequestered In Memphis
John Legend F/ Andre 3000 - Green Light
Juan Maclean, The - Happy House
Late Of The Pier - Focker
Paleface W/ Kyla - Do You Mind (Crazy Cousinz Remix)
Perempay & Dee Ft. Katie Pearl - In The Air
Solange - Sandcastle Disco
T.I. - Swagga Like Us
Wookie Ft Ny - Falling Again

mike t-diva, Monday, 9 February 2009 10:04 (sixteen years ago)

Tracks (ORDERED)

Wiley - If You're Going Out I'm Going Out Too
Little Boots - Stuck On Repeat
Portishead - Machine Gun
Hot Chip - One Pure Thought
Presets, The - This Boy's In Love
Scooter - The Question Is What Is The Question
Barbara Morgenstern - Come To Berlin (Telefon Tel Aviv Mix)
Annie - Songs Remind Me Of You
Estelle Feat. Kanye West - American Boy
Solange - T.O.N.Y.
Grace Jones - Williams' Blood (Aeroplane Rmx)
Air France - June Evenings
Sebastien Tellier - Divine
Erykah Badu - The Healer
M83 - Couleurs
Shortwave Set, The - No Social (Optimo Espacio Mix)
Beyonce - Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It)
Kelley Polar - Entropy Reigns
Hot Chip - Ready For The Floor
Friendly Fires - Paris (Feat. Au Revoir Simone)(Aeroplane Remix)

still a bit annoyed that 'Blind' did so well in so many polls compared to 'You Belong' which was arguably stronger in it's original form

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Monday, 9 February 2009 13:54 (sixteen years ago)

when's the albums poll starting?

kafka is poking about into the deepest (a hoy hoy), Monday, 9 February 2009 16:49 (sixteen years ago)

//////////////shawty got poll poll poll poll poll poll poll (part II: 2008 ALBUMS)///////////////

lil waynes babymama (musically), Monday, 9 February 2009 17:06 (sixteen years ago)

three months pass...

Listening to "Disturbia" now - had heard it 2-3 times before but now actually paying attention. It's pretty damn good except for the TITLE - "Disturbia"? It's just a corny word, and aligns badly with the the Marilyn Manson "gothy fast-motion spaz out" video imagery.

So, I just now on Youtube loaded the "Disturbia" video in one tab with the sound turned down, and Marilyn Manson's "The Beautiful People" in another tab with the sound turned up. It works really really well on the Rihanna vid - the lipsynching is maybe a little tighter when you do the opposite setup, but the moments when Rihanna and her dancers spazz out in time with Manson's guitars are just bliss.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 24 May 2009 00:13 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

2008 = worst year for singles that has ever existed.

I stand by this as well.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 03:54 (thirteen years ago)

eight years pass...

I was the #1 for Ida Maria. I can see myself still listening to that song in 10 years.

― Johnny Fever, Saturday, February 7, 2009 1:19 PM

Eleven and change as it turns out.

Didn't remember this landing at #26, ahead of Alphabeat's "Fascination" at #27. That's as strong a one-two punch for a ballot of mine for as long as I've been voting in these.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 10 August 2020 05:19 (four years ago)

aeroplane sure remixed a lot of songs this year

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Monday, 10 August 2020 06:08 (four years ago)


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