Creed: Awesome or Sucks?

I personally am utterly fascinated by Creed for boring political reasons: that they sold umpteen albums out of the trunks of cars in a Eazy E stylee, that their popularity actually rose up organically (I worked with teenagers who had the albums before "Higher" had charted or even been noticed by radio; Creed was uniquely their band). Musically...well, what can one say? Let's hear it, then!

i don't believe i haf evah heard a note by creed

But that sounds cool, Jess! And Scott Stapp would never do something that cool.

It's tough to separate Creed from their recent output, though, with their messianic posing and uplifting message. Gimme some of that Old Testament whips & chains action (cf. "My Own Prison"). By the way, the acoustic version of "My Own Prison" that made the rounds here in New England a couple years back trumps every attempt by Alice in Chains to get in touch with their soft dark underbelly. AND, comparing "Higher" w/ "My Sacrifice", one might get the sense that they're mailing it in - some barely inperceptible capitulation to the Pop gods. Maybe that's because both songs feature the same sort of rising action.

One thing that isn't disputable - their cover art is wretched. I am amazed they're selling CDs featuring pics of the 3 Creedsters' visages set in the bark of a tree.

Yeah, if you like HORRIBLE.

I can get behind that.

Neither Livingstone nor other missionaries had much impact on the slave trading which went on between the interior and the East coast. They failed to convert any significant numbers of Muslims to Christianity. Livingstone's well-intentioned call for colonisation as an antidote to the horrors of slavery, paved the way for a host of missionaries and speculators to follow in his footsteps and cause immense hardship for the people of southern Africa."

- from The Story of Africa

Your typical creed fans....

Seriously I think Dealing With Creed is the imperative task facing those of us who think/write about pop music. Although it's hard to confront Creed directly, because yes, they do suck.

I say Creed=real pop, though a poster above is right in noting that that doesn't mean anybody "has" to like it: but certainly when the consumers of Bootylicious are generally agreed that Creed is better, then "our" own understanding of these musics may reasonably be thought to be one somehow apart from the pop understanding

This is ultimately a question about perceived audiences and our relation thereto, which means it's mark s's baby

That's my take on the psychology of it. I could be completely wrong, could be projecting, but I would think that's the dynamic at work here. I can't recall a single note of the band's music so I can't say how godawful they truly are. I may have seen them on some awards show or something. Frankly, I have zero interest in them and their press/image/marketing is completely unattractive to me. But the fact that they're pretty much the lone grunge holdout right now is rather... interesting.

what do you mean ppl who LIVE pop? i tht that was like rod stewart and christine aguilera?

i'm a bit loth to believe that creed have solved this problem by arriving fully armed on the ordinary xtian side, unless their pop gift is genuinely stupendous (but i've never heard a note so maybe it is)

Scott Stapp is no Jim Steinman, alas.

Become rockist aged 14

Start defending prog aged 16

there are endless threads debating the meaning of rockism in the archives: i am sorry i am v.old, so it peppers my sentences unbidden, like the pox scars of a syphilis contracted in my youth in a pirate barque in the south china seas ho-hum

I'm getting out of my league here, discussing a band I only know peripherally...

anyway, like i say, could you two please argue with EACH OTHER as you are claiming completely totally opposite and contradictory things abt creed; I REITERATE I HAVE NEVER HEARD A NOTE BY THEM!!

whether or not authenticity is a feature of this or that rockband, the WORRY ABOUT AUTHENTICITY is central to the defn of rock as a form: that's the point i'm making

linkin park lyric that is in a panic abt authenticity:
What do I do to ignore them behind me?
Do I follow my instincts blindly?
Do I hide my pride / from these bad dreams
And give in to sad thoughts that are maddening?
Do I / sit here and try to stand it?
Or do I / try to catch them red - handed?
Do I trust some and get fooled by phoniness,
Or do I trust nobody and live in loneliness?
Because I can’t hold on / when I’m stretched so thin
I make the right moves but I’m lost within
I put on my daily façade but then
I just end up getting hurt again
By myself [myself]
I ask why, but in my mind
I find I can’t rely on myself

note keyword: phoniness

Pearl Jam offered salvation through suffering - I know, when I was 17 and 18, I felt soothed listening to Eddie villify himself and The World. In a sense, he was dying for my sins, absolving me of my mistakes and faults by sticking my nose in the doo-doo. (Once a Catholic, always a Catholic.) Creed offer a guilt-free epiphany - doesn't matter what you did, or how bad you were, because you're free now. Hell, "My Sacrifice" manages to completely gloss over the messy sacrifice part; it just skips to the holy hossanas and the glorious light beaming through stained glass windows. It's the same sort of escape offered by any pop act, but it's couched in this portentious rhetoric, and offered via grandiose musical gestures that signify significance (or, at the very least, importance, in that BOOMING VOICE OF GOD manner).

Whether the band MEANS any of it or not is immaterial - the SONGS mean it. Pearl Jam's long since given up on the tortured messianic path to riches, but listening to _Ten_ nowadays (speaking as someone who was there when it happened), the power's still there.

Step One: Write down the first contextless sentense fragment that comes to your mind. (For example "With Arms Wide Open");
Step Two: Record yourself repeating the phrase incessantly, without clarifying what you are referring to, preferably in a parody of the singer from Jars of Clay pretending to be the singer from DC Talk pretending to be a very boring version of Eddie Vedder...on Thorazine.
Step Three: Record a dull corner-bar band with HORDE aspirations doing listless, sleepy "anthemic", "passionate" "riffage" behind the prerecorded vocal.
Step Four: Subtly insert a few subliminal messages advertizing Tim LaHayes new apocalyptic book "The Turner Diar....Left Behind."
Step Five: Payola Payola Payola.
Step Six Six Six: Sings the praises of Mammon for you new found wealth and "critical acclaim" from such respected musical experts such as the cast of the 700 Club.

Become rockist aged 14

Start defending prog aged 16

Give up and Get the Gold Ultradisk Box Set of Michael Bolton at age 18.

It is waaaaaaaaaaay too long, though- more than 5 minutes. If you edited it down to 2:30, it would be a much better song, since it's not really strong to stand up to itself before it starts getting ridiculously repititous by the end. Actually, end it at 2:52, right at the end of the chorus, and you'd have a cute little pop song.

With Arms Wide Open, on the other hand, sounds like it took all the lousy parts of Higher, slowed them down & muffled them, and then stirred an extra bit of blandness.

I can't believe I'm defending Creed here, but all the "it just sucks" answers were ticking me off.

that creed video where they are 3D animated angelic/spartan warriors in some sort of bad fantasy scape, battling some weird alien lobster creatures with long swords and crazy kung fu skillz

1. their sound is an amalgam of traits pilfered from bands i like. scott stapp's voice is so affected, like the worst moments of scott weiland filtered through days of the new, with a dash of layne stayley. he's more histrionic than mariah carey. plus, the guitars sound awful, compressed to hell and run through the most irritatingly banal fuzz box ever made (possibly the DOD Metal pedal?). basically, they take the worst sonic qualities of grunge and make them even more irritating than that. 2. nothing they are doing is particularly interesting in the way that, say, chart pop is interesting to me. i like that brandy single because it's funky in a weird way, and i like songs about wronged lovers. on the other hand, i can't figure out what the hell creed songs are about, and they aren't interesting on any musical level. they simply take what others have done, and make it worse.

WILL NO-ONE COMMENT ON THE BRILLIANCE OF THIS NAME? Mr. Darnielle, we have a winner.

but creed still sux

But any self-respecting trailer-trash mullethead would not like Creed when they have their Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Metallica, and AC/DC.

I just see the trailer trash mullethead kids breaking beer bottles on the side of a junked-out double-wide saying, "TOOL IS THE FUCKIN SHIT!" instead of "CREED IS THE FUCKIN SHIT!"

Creed is pop music for "Ordinary Fucking People."

you know anthony, if yer gonna like cheese we gotta get you to like higher-quality cheese not cheez-whiz like creed!

I'd say this is almost true.

And how wrong you are.

The new Matchbox Twenty stuff is shockingly fun to listen to.

They have a new album?

Anyway, I will go on record as saying that I like "Higher". I wasn't listening to the radio or watching music videos when the song first hit, so I only ever heard it in shops or taxis and thus never had the chance to get sick of it. Divorced of its settings, it's a perfectly acceptable pop-metal song.

but creed still sux

-- Tad (llamasfu...), January 30th, 2003

god this band are shite

-- Tad (llamasfu...), June 5th, 2003

SUCKS!

-- Eisbär (llamasfu...), April 5th, 2005.

I mean, lots of folks assume that blues/jazz should be in the same bin b/c Sam Goody puts them in the same dark corner (pun intended) of the store, so why shouldn't they pay more attention to Creed b/c they used to be on giant posters in the front window?

I think Creed is an interesting study in what manu-pop, pop, and popular bands have as their key characteristics.

This saddens me so much.

Joy Division. The Bad Seeds. The Tindersticks. KINO. The National.

If I decoded your last post correctly, the bone of contention would be the Tindersticks. Fair enough; they're an acquired taste, and pretty monotonous as well. I like them still.

(As you can see, this a sore spot for me, for one obvious reason)

ALLELULIA!

Oh Jesus Christ.

After a six-year hiatus,...

SIX YEARS IS NOWHERE LONG ENOUGH!

wow i agree with you!!!!

"We're not looking at this as a reunion. It's more of a rebirth."

Oh fuck you!

Though they stayed in touch through holiday cards and the occasional phone call, the group refrained from recording together in order to, "explore other creative outlets and build the main priority in all of our lives, which is our family," says Stapp.

'thinking of you this season'

- scott

Bahaha

i cringed when i read this on idolator this morning, even though they've basically been hinting at it for a while now.

And who will get the coveted opening slot on the tour?

this is a good litmus test band, kinda like boondock saints is a good litmus test movie.

i don't think i know anyone who likes this band

i get what he means tho, otm about boondock at least

but anyway ughhh noooooo

they have a few okay singles

wow

Tonbridge & malling borough council

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they have a few okay singles

― pleasure p (J0rdan S.), Monday, April 27, 2009 3:34 PM (24 minutes ago)

name a creed song you'd willingly listen to the whole way through

And the critical reassessment begins here on ILM. First comes the dudes listening to Creed to be "ironic", then comes serious threads debating how brilliant Human Clay was as opposed to the less influential Weathered.

my reassessment says they still suck pretty badly

they have a few okay singles

― pleasure p (J0rdan S.), Monday, April 27, 2009 3:34 PM (24 minutes ago)

name a creed song you'd willingly listen to the whole way through

― oh, whineypause (k3vin k.), Monday, April 27, 2009 3:01 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

"my sacrifice" totally

i like some 3 doors down songs and lifehouse songs too fyi

my feelings on creed are that they're not great nor terrible, probs wouldn't let one of their songs play out on the radio now if i heard it but if i was in a mall or something i wouldn't run 4 cover, and in the right situation i might think "well this is decent"

but jordan his voice

his pain

if you can tolerate one grunge vocalist's voice you can tolerate them all right?

see but his has always been like really singular to me. it's definitely its own brand.

u have a stronger stomach than i, no doubt. it's the kind of thing i cant really deal w/ at all really

any excuse to post this, too:
http://tomluv.livejournal.com/13923.html

xp stapp's voice is a different monster dude

but i mean the thing about Creed is they take me back to a time when there were good feelings, so it's kind of a muddled experience

it's hard for me to hate a lot of modern rock from my middle school years

that's the thing that gets ya, the nostalgia factor

3 Doors Down and Lifehouse are both WAY WAY WAY WAY better than Creed.

otoh it's hard to argue with "311, I am ready to fight"

nostalgia: the reason why stone temple pilots are able to get headlining spots at festivals.

i'm interested to see how the creed tour sells. i really want to know how many closeted creed fans there are out there.

I know of one dude that still listens to Creed and he certainly isn't closeted about it. He just thinks its awesome "rawk" music.

:(

Basically I don't think those that were ever Creed stans are likely to have been shy about it now, I mean these are the dudes that trace a line through Led Zep, AC/DC, Stone Temple Pilots, Creed, Linkin Park as radio friendly hard-rock.

tracing a line thru Zep --> Creed makes my stomach a little upset

Well, yeah, but you can see how there might be someone out there that thinks like that, right? I just don't think I'll be that surprised when Creed's tour sells well, lots of people with questionable taste out there.

ya i can see it, and i won't be surprised either. just relieved to be me

name a creed song you'd willingly listen to the whole way through

― oh, whineypause (k3vin k.), Monday, April 27, 2009 3:01 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

"higher" was the first guitar riff i ever learned to play and the christ baiting in the video still makes me lol so

"My Own Prison" - mid-90s Live/Pearl Jam nostalgia

http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/0/9/5/9/27809590-27809595-slarge.jpg

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/04/27/creeds-scott-stapp-calls-reunion-a-renewing-and-a-rebirth/

Five years after their highly acrimonious split, Creed are reforming for a new album and an American tour, which kicks off August 6th in Pittsburgh and runs through October 14th. “I wouldn’t call it a reunion,” says singer Scott Stapp. “It’s a renewing and a rebirth. I missed my boys and wanted to create music with them again. We’re all thrilled to have a second chance to make a first impression.”

The reconciliation began last December when Stapp reached out to Creed guitarist Mark Tremonti. They agreed to meet up at the Hard Rock Hotel in Florida before Stapp sang the “National Anthem” at the Champs Sports Bowl. “I was nervous, but also excited because I knew Mark would bring nothing but positivity,” says Stapp. “We exchanged family pictures and within 20 minutes we were jamming on acoustic guitars and talking about new songs.” They soon met up with drummer Scott Phillips and bassist Brian Marshall, who left Creed in 2000 but is returning for the new album and tour. “At that meeting we were collectively saying, ‘Hey man, I’m sorry if I hurt you or my choices did anything to cause you any pain. I have nothing but love and forgiveness for you and I hope you can forgive me. It’s all part of the process of reflection and not looking back at the six months out of 10 years that were trying.”

Stapp and Tremonti already have six demos for the new album, which they plan on recording shortly in Nashville. They are currently looking for a producer. “We’re reached out to Brendan O’Brien, Mutt Lange, Bob Rock, Steve Lillywhite and six or seven more,” says Stapp. “We want to put ourselves around the best and have them bring out the best in us and challenge us as artists.” The likely title track is “Full Circle.” “It’s a favorite for all of us,” says Stapp. “It really defines and articulates, melody-wise and lyrically, what’s happened with us. We’ve come full circle and it’s a great place to be. The goal is get release the first single before the tour and have the album come out during the tour or right after.”

What’s the status of Stapp’s long-in-the-works second solo disc? “I’m not really thinking about that right now,” he says. “It would be irresponsible for me to think about anything but Creed. This band is my first love and a first love that’s stood the test of time. It’s not hard to step away from any kind of personal agenda when you are totally fulfilled.”

Tour dates:
August 6 - Pittsburgh PA
August 8 - Darien Lakes NY
August 9 - Hershey PA
August 11 - Saratoga Springs NY
August 13 - Philadelphia PA
August 15 - Wantagh NY
August 16 - Holmdel NJ
August 18 - Boston MA
August 20 - Hartford, CT
August 21 - Washington DC
August 22 - Virginia Beach VA
August 25 - Detroit MI
August 26 - Cleveland OH
August 28 - Cincinnati OH
August 29 - Indianapolis IN
August 30 - Chicago IL
September 1 - Milwaukee
September 2 - Columbus OH
September 4 - Raleigh NC
September 5 - Charlotte NC
September 11 - Atlanta GA
September 12 - Birmingham AL
September 15 - Orlando FL
September 16 - West Palm Beach FL
September 18 - Lafayette LA
September 19 - New Orleans LA
September 20 - Bossier City LA
September 22 - Dallas TX
September 24 - San Antonio TX
September 25 - Houston TX
September 27 - Las Vegas NV
September 29 - Glendale AZ
September 30 - Irvine CA
October 2 - Salt Lake City UT
October 3 - Denver CO
October 6 - Minneapolis MN
October 7 - Omaha NE
October 9 - Tulsa OK
October 10 - Kansas City MO
October 13 - St Louis MO
October 14 - Nashville TN

In addition to the lulzworthy reporting of the tender Stapp/Tremonti reunion, I'd like to point out that Darien Lakes NY is an amusement park.

http://www.coaster-net.com/pics/sfdl/logo.jpg

they have a few okay singles

Never have I said this with more earnest sincerity: RAISE YOUR STANDARDS!

Creed >>>>>>>>>> Killing Joke

Just kidding. Don't break your computer Alex.

If someone will pay for it I will attend and report on Cleveland, OH show.

“At that meeting we were collectively saying, ‘Hey man, I’m sorry if I hurt you or my choices did anything to cause you any pain. I have nothing but love and forgiveness for you and I hope you can forgive me. It’s all part of the process of reflection and not looking back at the six months out of 10 years that were trying.”

This apparently came from the 'Ron Moore talks to the fans' transcript.

Darien Lakes NY is an amusement park

TONITE:

PUPPET SHOW
CREED

"They agreed to meet up at the Hard Rock Hotel in Florida before Stapp sang the National Anthem at the Champs Sports Bowl" is the opening line in my Creed biography.

Photo of the year:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitter_production/profile_images/282824031/scott_05_00487_4i_FL.jpg

lol.

coupla points about creed. i'll admit to liking their first album. and that's it. stapp is an egomaniac who once in a yahoo chat interview claimed he kicked eddie vedder's ass vocally (in response to one of the audience member's questions).

and lets not forget how they seem to think their music has some kind of esoteric weight beyond spiritual wannabe post-grunge. if i ever hear 'with eyes wide open' again, i might have to find the masters and burn them

Oh how I laugh:

http://idolator.com/5282592/would-you-go-see-creed-if-you-only-had-to-pay-75-cents

Creed >>>>>>>>>> Killing Joke

― homage is parody gone sour (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, April 27, 2009 6:02 PM

Nice out of context pull there. You're missing the very important follow-up post.

don't tell me...alex in NYC was upset about something. now THAT i have to read

I will admit to liking "My Sacrifice", mostly for Mark Tremonti's (had to Google his name ) guitar licks (the riff that propels the bridge is actually pretty rocking, in a responsible and adult-like fashion), but that "six feet from the edge" song should be BANNED FOREVER.

Creed Is Good
Scott Stapp's nu-grunge foursome was seriously underrated.

http://www.slate.com/id/2233082/

"If your impulse on hearing that it has reunited is to groan, stifle it long enough to locate a copy of Creed's 2004 Greatest Hits collection. It's a fantastic baker's dozen of first-rate schlock-rock, courtesy of one of the most underrated and unfairly maligned groups in pop history."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc-gmvXdLKk

think that was posted to the bad music writing thread already but yeah these retarded modest proposal irony peices gotta stop

Irony schmirony!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipy58SaIRhs

why do people keep calling Creed christian? the lyrics may be "spiritual" or whatever but I'm pretty sure there is no actual connection to CCM & christian rocker types don't consider them part of that scene i think

anyway, the Slate article is really bending over backwards here, creed is shit.... but i would still better listen to them than kings of leon

Don't worry their rehab piece is due in 2016.

My problem with Creed is not Stapp's voice (works well in context) or persona (rock music is chock full of douchebags) or the guitar riffs (decent hard rock). My problem is that, like pretty much every post-grunge rock band in America, the songs are too fucking slow. They do not "rock." They shuffle from foot to foot. It's no wonder their videos have so much slo-mo in 'em; their drummer plays in slow motion. Staind are actually worse offenders in this regard (did they release one single that wasn't a fucking dirge?), but Creed are a prime example of trudge-rock. The only Creed song I like even a little is "Bullets," because for at least part of its running time the drummer wakes up, and the band gets into second gear. They don't sustain it, of course. But for a minute or so, they are a genuinely rockin' band. (They pull the same trick on the new single, "Overcome.")

i guess the fact that creed has actual pop songs and stuff make them automatically better than a lot of bands i don't even know the name of. shinedown? is that one of them? i just hate this type of music tbh

CREED ARE THE WORST BAND EVER, JUST SAYING

worse than nickelback?

they might be tied, but you are so right, nickelback are awful

What's up with Creed doing that WHOOOAAAAOOOHHHOHHHH YAAAGHASEXIZONFIYAAAAH song a year back or so?

I've been trying to get people to refer to this vocal style as "reer" for many years.. Here's something I wrote about it a long time ago on my friends facebook..

"Reer" is a vocal style that became popular by a young surfer named Edward Vedder from The Pearl Jam.. it's main characteristic is how often there's extra emphasis on the "err's" and "rree's".. a few years later the style was adopted by singers from far more mediocre bands such as Darius Rucker from Hootie and the Blowfish, and eventually an entire mainstream rock subgenre was built around it starting in 1998 by the emergence of Creed's Scott Stapp, eventually resulting in its peak in popularity which took place between 2000 and 2002 with Chad Kroger from Nickleback, Aaron Lewis from Staind, and that asshole from Godsmack.. one of the most recent big hit songs of this type was "Lips Of An Angel" from Hinder. lots of modern mainstream country singers also use this vocal style, but it's normally used to describe bullshit bar-rock where the singer sounds like eddie vedder.

I recall writing that during that during work using my phone keypad which is why I'll have to apologize for the poor grammar and word choice, but you get the point..

The next year, at home in Orlando, Stapp put two guns to his head, intent on blowing out his brains.

Sorry for laughing but, seriously, two guns for the suicide attempt there, Scott?

I don't feel sorry laughing about that at all.

"Higher" might turn out to be the nu-grunge "Don't Stop Believing"

Can definitely see this -- along with the inevitable rehabilitation down the road. Oh well.

x-post

Even with a suicide attempt things had to be overblown. TWO GUNS.

http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/08/hardboiledpic.jpg

wooicide

sorry that was lame.

i meant attempted wooicide

Hold up, before I get my twin suicide guns let me release the doves.

x-post lawl

I've been trying to get people to refer to this vocal style as "reer" for many years.

I always thought it was called yarl?

awesome article.

And thus I roffle.

Stapp is also slated to be one of the featured singers on a version of Creedence Clearwater Revival's "Fortunate Son" for the new Santana album, "Guitar Heaven: The Greatest Guitar Classics Of All Time,"

Oh man, I can hear this in my head and it's horrible.

i hate creed so much.

so excited!

Guys I have to admit I think "My Own Prison" is kind of an awesome song, and that I did it at karaoke once.

It's also about Scott Stapp being damned, so that's fine.

Ok, that's really only true of the the first verse, but he doesn't really enunciate the rest.

I'm prepared for the sbs, but Creed's first album isn't completely awful as far as post-grunge mall-rock goes. It all went downhill starting with that second album.

I always thought One had kind of a taut rollick in the verses

I mean, basically they went from being a band that I didn't completely mind when "My Own Prison" came on the alt-rock station to being a band that made me want to SMASH whenever I heard them.

In 2004, former Creed members Mark Tremonti, Scott Phillips and Brian Marshall, found themselves searching for the perfect new singer…enter the one and only, Myles Kennedy. Since then, they have been a mainstay on rock radio and now releasing a new record, AB III on November 9! (Miles also performs on Slash’s new solo record and fronts his touring band).

http://gizmodo.com/5739091/how-creed-saved-a-norwegian-boy-from-a-pack-of-wolves

Earlier this week, in the Norwegian town of Rakkestad, 13-year-old Walter Eikrem was walking home from school when he crossed paths with a pack of wolves. With his life on the line, he had to think quick. He blasted Creed.

"At first, I thought it might have been the neighbor's dogs," Walter told a Norwegian TV station after the incident. In fact, all alone amongst the sloping, snowy hills that separated his school from his family's farmhouse, he was about to encounter four wild wolves.

Fearing that they were getting ready to attack, Walter remained calm, remembering his mother's exhortation not to run away if he ever encountered the animals in the wild. So he stood his ground and figured he might be able to scare the animals off with the music from his cell phone. He yanked out his earbuds. Out blared Creed's Christian rock anthem "Overcome."

Walter waved his arms wildly and screamed at the top of his lungs along with the music, and sure enough, the wolves turned around and walked the other way. I'm sure Creed has saved many fans in its career but never quite like this.

wolves should have eaten the kid for that imo

I'd rather been eaten by wolves than listen to Creed.

There's another version of this story that the band in question is Megadeth.

I'd rather been eaten by wolves than listen to Creed.

otm

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Music tames the savage beast, whereas Creed makes it cringe and slink away with a feeling of cultural superiority. Reply
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i honestly can't think of a band off the top of my head that i despise more.

that shit about creed vs. owl city where the latter won the poll for being worse is super rong imo

june 10, 2002...my first post ever.

Saved by Creed? Norwegian Boy Fends Off Wolf Pack with Heavy Metal

Has anyone heard about this in the past two days??????//?

no

first paragraph of that article... eat yr heart out goalkeeper:

While walking home from the busstop this week, a 13-year-old Norwegian school boy stumbled upon four wolves. In the end, it may have been his love of heavy-metal music by the band Creed that saved his life.

ppl who hypenate 'heavy metal' are disgusting savages im indubitably correct o

ppl who can't spell 'hyphenate' = life's winners

i hope this sorry sack of shit band does not get critically rehabbed when the 00s revival comes about.

don't have to settle no god damn score

My bartender looks like Scott stapp

this brings tears to my eyes

He has a pooka shell necklace with a cross on it.

Long brown locks that scream "I am beefing with kid rock"

But also "pretty cool that Jesus died for our sins, guys"

this band is way too hilarious to hate

exactly! "with arms wide open" = secret cheesy classic. i recommend singing along while imitating scott stapp's voice.

This should be a 'defend the indefensible' thread.

I hate being elitist but this and nickelback are my foolproof bands to know if I shouldn't discuss music with you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vMpfbuI9FY

http://www.change.org/p/mgm-change-the-name-of-the-movie-creed

Of course, this is much funnier when one believes it to be earnest.

i hope this sorry sack of shit band does not get critically rehabbed when the 00s revival comes about.

― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:14 AM

My Own Prison turns 20 tomorrow, and I interviewed Scott Stapp, Mark Tremonti, and producer John Kurzweg about it for Stereogum.

awesome

Creed performed at Cowboy Stadium in 2001, and to this day it is the funniest thing I have ever seen. You cannot medically prepare yourself for what happens 9 seconds into this clip pic.twitter.com/G30vCvnZ1t

— CPAC Chopra (@steak_ham) November 18, 2018

that is some gob bluth shit

I share this with friends every thanksgiving, I watched the full performance in 2001 and it remains the most amazing thing I’ve ever seen.

thank you bg for giving me something to be thankful for this year

Cool, I'd been looking for the musical equivalent of drdoomcrying.jpg.

stapp's fist-pump gesture after the angel's departure just kills me every time

the moment in its full glory (all praise to Him, of course) is here, at 1:12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prLQhRYh_Ls

not to actually the tweet, but

that's not even the best part of that performance pic.twitter.com/1thBAYil5R

— Zach Scott (@weinventyou) November 19, 2018

while it was unfolding live i couldn't believe what i was seeing. cheerleaders, a tot with a salvation army kettle, a gospel choir, a bunch of Ed Kowalczyks flying through the air on sashes, Scott Stapp #11 and his ill-prepared lip-syncing.

I doubt there's a pop culture time capsule that better explains the immediate post-9/11 era and atmosphere of the U.S.

Idgi... it’s just a dude doing aerial silks?

I doubt there's a pop culture time capsule that better explains the immediate post-9/11 era and atmosphere of the U.S.

yeah, my partner and i were just talking about that. it is incredibly over-the-top nov 2001

idg how this is any different from every other stupid superbowl halftime show

it's that, but up for six days on meth

xp Owl City is def way worse than Creed wtf

At least Creed is lulz

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/828/665/533.jpg
https://pre00.deviantart.net/19ae/th/pre/f/2010/139/2/a/can_you_take_me_higher_by_dark_amy_rose.png

idg how this is any different from every other stupid superbowl halftime show

look I share your antipathy toward halftime shows (except the Prince one) but shirtless flying dude taking wing past Scott Stap singing "Higher" in a Dallas Cowboys jersey and fistpumping ascends his bald angel ascends to the upper air of the stadium, if you can't see how that's special then you need to get higher

*as his bald angel ascends

stapp looks a lot like kenny loggins. i sort of always knew that but didn't really.

it's that, but up for six days on meth

― Saddo Wannabe (rip van wanko), Monday, November 19, 2018 11:34 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not to nitpick but he looks a lot more like he's on downers to me. his lukewarm performance and the fact that he looks like a blurry character in a mcnaughton painting is what makes the aerial stunting so embarrassing imo.

when he puts his arms out to his sides and sashays around he looks like a figure skater.

the "christian" and the "rock" and the b+ theater are a perfect storm of camp

i can't believe i'm dissecting a creed super bowl video

i'm right here with you for this

well, um... huh.
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/tv-film/9501073/scott-stapp-frank-sinatra-ronald-reagan-biopic/

Everything about this sounds awesome. A Reagan biopic starring Real Hollywood Conservatives Dennis Quaid and Jon Voight, with Scott Stapp as Frank Sinatra, directed by the guy who made the Bratz movie, two Casper sequels, and 3 Ninjas: High Noon at Mega Mountain starring Hulk Hogan. (The latter having the distinction, per Wikipedia, of being "the worst of the four" in the 3 Ninjas franchise.)

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https://www.villagevoice.com/2023/02/14/creed-the-musical-not-an-unserious-production-by-unserious-people/

should be more plays/movies where Scott Stapp goes to jail imo

let's go there

has anyone here played creed on a jukebox as a joke?

this thread should only be updated with clips and gifs of that halftime show performance

https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6191dfb6-e20f-42c2-9544-1f0edabe6a27_352x262.gif

thank you omar

@medranothelion
1 year ago

Love or hate Creed, you can't deny that after the attack, this performance was what we needed to start healing. Creed were heroes on this days.

there's something abt Stapp's performance which really reminds me of some extremely bad acting you might see on a basic cable tv show, from an actor who knows he's very good looking and just every single look and expression is an overemphatic and false, just an absolute masterclass in unctuousness.

I interviewed Stapp and Tremonti (and their producer, John Kurzweg) some years ago, when their debut album turned 20. They were all nice guys, and interesting to talk to.

xp Lorenzo Lamas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwDNSCsD8w8

I saw Creed live once. it wasn't necessarily "on purpose", because they were opening for Metallica (very odd lineup of Sevendust, Kid Rock, Creed, then...Tallica). he did some bullshit spiritual philosophy crap between each song.

but, at the time, they only had two albums, and...I still kinda like My Own Prison, so...it wasn't the worst thing I ever heard.

well...except for the lyrics. and Stapp

back in I think 1999, when Yahoo was still doing live chats with bands where you could log in and submit your questions and listen to the audio of them answering, I asked Scott what he thought of his comparisons to Eddie Vedder, and he said "Oh I kick his ass completely, he doesn't even do the same voice on any of his albums", and giggling about how awesome he was vocally.

someone snuck in the question "what Creed song would be on the compilation 'crap songs of our time'" and then Stapp got mad that the moderator let that one through

then he answered "none because Creed is not crap you see"

On July 19, 2023, the band announced that they had reunited and would be headlining the Summer of '99 cruise in April 2024. On October 30, 2023 the band announced The Summer of '99 Tour, with more than 40 shows across the US for the first time in 12 years with special guests 3 Doors Down as direct support on a majority of the tour, with Finger Eleven, Daughtry, Switchfoot, Tonic and Big Wreck joining the band on select dates.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creed_(band)

With any luck, the ship will hit an iceberg.

3 Doors Down will donate $5 to the military every time they boff a chord change

haha who the fuck is finger eleven

Nabbed $28 presale tickets to the Southern California stop. ("Summer of $19.99" deal) I'm pretty stoked.

I don't know a lot about Finger Eleven, but I do know that the band's original name was

Rainbow Butt Monkeys

and that Paralyzer (2007) was a huge hit in Canada and can still be heard on Canadian radio quite frequently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJk6gZuPKRE

two months pass...

OK so I'm not great at keeping up with my bookmarks.

With any luck, the ship will hit an iceberg.

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, January 30, 2024 5:22 PM (two months ago)

Haha, I knew someone who shelled out for the cruise. He shared vids & pics on FB all weekend.

So...many...wallet chains.

https://i.imgur.com/xwl392s.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHKGlumSuAA

oh they posted a version that wasn't ripped from the stream in potato quality

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fdKfaq1YN8

lol that photo

i encountered "my sacrifice" in public for the first time in who knows how long the other day