Felt -- Classic or dud??

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I bought Absolute Classic Masterpieces to cheer up a dull Saturday afternoon in the office--the jury's still out, but help me make up my mind.

alex thomson, Monday, 30 October 2000 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'll take silence as a resounding "Dud" then, shall I?

alex thomson, Friday, 3 November 2000 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'd be surprised, because I know a lot of the readers of this forum revere Felt, or at least listened to music at a time when statistically speaking some of them might have been expected to revere Felt. I'd have put in some snidey comment, but the only record of theirs I have is a tape of sensitive guitar instrumentals, which never did anything for me whatsoever but is probably monstrously unrepresentative.

Tom, Friday, 3 November 2000 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I can count the number of Felt songs I know on zero fingers.

Not so much classic or dud as real or imaginary, for me. I'd have to say DEFINITELY imaginary.

Dan Perry, Friday, 3 November 2000 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

May I shamelessly admit at this point that I know precisely no Felt songs but could recognise huge amounts of Lawrence's *subsequent* work :) ?

-- "KKN = Korruption Kollusion Nepotism"

Robin Carmody, Friday, 3 November 2000 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

PHILISTINES. Felt were the greatest, purest, most poised & perverse band of the nineteen eighties. The world simply did not deserve lawrence and behaved accordingly. More satie than smiths and more physically and conceptually beautiful than any pop band in history. I could go on but my hackles are giving me grief.

cw, Monday, 6 November 2000 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Though I don't know the referred to Felt, there is a band in Sydney called Felt and apart from one decent song and a rockin bass player with even more rockin shoes there are a dud.

Kylie, Monday, 6 November 2000 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Classic! I adore Felt, and even Lawrence's various solo projects. Which reminds me, anyone anywhere know where I can find a copy of Denim on Ice?

Nicole, Tuesday, 7 November 2000 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

felt dems good band i have a white one with a black image on the coveer (thats useful for all you trainspotters) with a nice baroque-ish guitar track and of course primitive painters- now thats looooovely- actually laurence's fumpling vocals make elizabeth frazer listenable to this man at least-

Matthew, Sunday, 19 November 2000 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Good but not great.

I've got the 2 ACS compilations. There are some great tracks scattered across them, but also some dreary and pointless meandering. I don't think anything they did was lyrically or musically outstanding, and it's clear from their followers that a lot of the attraction depends on the image of the band as detached outsiders, speaking to their own cult, rather than the work they did.

Denim are better.

Jon Norton, Wednesday, 29 November 2000 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three weeks pass...
Dud. There were really two versions of Felt. Early on they had a guitarist called Maurice Deebank who trampled all over their stuff in a meandering, vaguely classically trained way. He was replaced by Martin Duffy (yep, the Primal Scream one) who trampled likewise, this time with whatever keyboard came to hand. Usually an annoying organ. The first Deebank-era album is OK (Evergreendazed, I think ), as are some of the singles ('My face is on Fire' is one), but overall it's pretty grim stuff. It got worse during their time on Creation and their final effort ('Me and a Monkey on the Moon') is utterly dire. If they had have ever got to grips with the basics of recording and production, they could've been good, as Lawrence just might have had something interesting to say. Never heard Denim or Go-Kart Mozart. Not really bothered.

Dr. C, Wednesday, 20 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Felt is the greatest pop band of the 1980's. Lawrence one of the best singer-songwriters of all time. Unfairly criticized by some critics as Velvet Underground wannabes, the true influence of Felt is still being, well, uh, felt today! Sure, early Felt was a little stodgy, but true classic Felt such as Poem of the River (without guitarist Maurice Deebank) and The Strange Idols Pattern (with Deebank)have been on heavy play rotation for me for practically 15 years now. No other band or singer can make such a claim for me.

Alan Leahy, Tuesday, 2 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

seven months pass...
Felt's Cherry Red albums were very subtle, lush affairs -- lush as in big, beautiful rainclouds rolling in across a white sky -- and yet very austere and stripped down in their overall delivery (less really is more)... The overall atmosphere however isn't dark or depressing, but sweetly melancholic. Then there's Maurice Deebank's classical guitar meanderings, which, rather than sounding like lost squiggley bits inserted for effect, provide a perfect, yet brittle icing for it all. The Creation stuff was a bit more immediate, but every bit as good. Don't expect casio beats or power chord riffs... It's just very interesting pop music, with a bit more texture than most. Trust me.

, Thursday, 30 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

six months pass...
Felt? Genius.

chris burt, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I recently downlaoded almost their entire output and I have to say I don't really have much opinion on it, it's pretty good in places, and pretty poor in others, it probably says something about my tastes in music that Primitive Painters is probably my favourite, but it's not really representative of their other wor

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dr C - I just saw your comments above: great stuff, going against the flow.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I only vaguely remember their rekkids, but I saw them live (supporting the Cocteau Twins) and they were really quite astoundingly bad. They gave me a stinking headache. Poss dud on this basis.

Norman Phay, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

That doesn't surprise me - I adore (most of) their records but they've never struck me as a band who would "cut it" live. Many artists capable of creating beautiful recordings are pretty poor live.

electric sound of jim, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Somehow a song called Primitive Painters (or a song from an album called Primitive Painters?)—by this band, anyway—ended up on my hard drive and I've come to like it quite a bit, even though I don't normally listen to this ocean-of-sound type rock n roll. Hurrah for music that falls into your lap.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

eleven months pass...
time for a revival - last month's mojo says something along the lines
of this
'if lawrence reformed felt today he would pretty much clean up'.
well ! there's also mention of re-releases of the back catalogue.

'forever breathes...' is ace.
they should do a traditional 'best of' maybe.
his best quote is when he says that, despite
being totally broke that
'if i can't do things my way i'm not interested'.

he's like the polar opposite of moby that fella.

piscesboy, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Forever Breathes the Lonely Word was THE album really, but to get them I think you had to be into Lawrence as a pop star. The anti-rockism, the one name(!), the cleanliness(!!), it was no surprise that he was into Subway Sect. He always came across as really interesting and funny in interviews, to me anyway.

flowersdie (flowersdie), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

'forever breathes' is the only thing of theirs I've heard and its one of the few indie records in that post third VU alb vein that I'm not hostile to. that's bcz Lawrence was a good songwriter and the organ isn't that annoying.

not 'genius' or anything but not a disaster either.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I liked them a bit, but Lawrence's stuff got better as he went on. I was playing Denim only this weekend. Might have some more tomorrow, I think.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

maybe if Lawrence cleaned up he might be in a position to reform Felt. or indeed do anything else

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)

"she lives by the castle" is my favorite song by them
he said he wrote for the girl in that band st. etienne

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 22:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I got an email from a friend who recently recieved a CDR of Lawrence's new album!!

S Samson, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry. It was demos and not a new album! : - (

S Samson, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)

whoa, is this demos for the LP that Alan McGee talked about? the "Bob Dylan" Lawrence album?

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 22:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I can ask?

S Samson, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)

yayy

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

NEW LAWRENCE NEW LAWRENCE NEW LAWRENCE? Back In Denim is the only record i've spent more than £20 on twice.

alexfack (alexfack), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 00:31 (twenty-two years ago)

"Ballad of the Band" is really catchy and I highly recommend it.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 00:35 (twenty-two years ago)

and "sunlight bathed the golden glow" too

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 00:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Not forgetting "Penelope Tree"

flowersdie (flowersdie), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 09:59 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

from mojo :

all the felt albums and a live dvd - heads up, world.

...for years the indie legends' back catalogue has only been available on a series of undignified twofers (all in the same grey sleeve). now they are to reissue their entire recorded works through cherry red. the process begins with 'stains on a decade' on may 26, which compiles material from the 10 felt singles released on the cherry red and creation labels, with the original 10 albums released two per month until november. 'the albums were never available as we wanted them' says felt frontman lawrence 'so we've got them back to what they originally were - there's no demos or extras, none of that. they're totally minimal, just like we were.'

most intriguing to fans however is the june 23 release of the concert dvd 'a declaration'. 'that was a concert we did at ulu in february 1987...there's songs off poem of the river, forever breathes the lonely word, we do primitive painters, ballad of the band, a good cross section. and it means that people who never saw us can see what we looked like. there's no extras at all just the concert. there'll be
a whole year's worth of felt so the kids can buy something new every month.'

woo hoo !!

piscesboy, Tuesday, 22 April 2003 12:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Hurray!

Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 12:34 (twenty-two years ago)

there's no demos or extras, none of that. they're totally minimal, just like we were

Glad to see Lawrence (who I assume is the author of this quote) hasn't changed much...

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Heh. I'll be very interested in this. The stories in the Cavanagh Creation book are wondrously weird.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 15:38 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...
lawrence is on bbc radio 6 on the liz k show
from one o clock this afternoon talking about the
felt re-issues !!

he's about to speak !
i have my tape recorder running !!

piscesboy, Thursday, 12 June 2003 10:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I hope they ask him about cheese.

kate (kate), Thursday, 12 June 2003 10:15 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah and toilets
and 'hair corner'
and sarah c

but i suspect they wont.

piscesboy, Thursday, 12 June 2003 10:18 (twenty-two years ago)

did they ask him if he's ever going to finish another fucking record?

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 12 June 2003 10:38 (twenty-two years ago)

electric sound of jim, it's on the way.

...and has nearly finished the second Go-Kart Mozart album, to be released in the Autumn

Felt Re-issues

From the latest Cherry Red newsletter [via e-mail] the first two Felt albums are re-issued [on June 16th]:

Felt
Crumbling The Antiseptic Beauty
CDMRED 25
This seminal album is to be released in a limited edition digi-pack and was Felt’s first studio album. This album was a critical and indie chart success, and has been long sought after in its original format. This is the beginning of a major Felt re-issue campaign with all ten studio albums being released over the coming months, including the long deleted but much sought after Creation albums. Felt are a very influential band around the world with many of today’s bands paying homage to the genius of Lawrence, who contrary to rumors is alive and well and has nearly finished the second Go-Kart Mozart album, to be released in the Autumn.

Felt
The Splendor Of Fear
CDMRED 57
This, Felt’s second studio album was deemed another success for them by both the critics and public alike. A special limited edition digi-pack, this release is part of the Felt re-issue campaign which will see all ten of Felt’s studio albums – including the Creation Records recordings, re-issued by Cherry Red.

also:

Felt
A Declaration
CRDVD 25

The first ever DVD to feature one of the most influential and enduringly popular alternative bands of all time, Felt. Felt were formed in 1980 by their enigmatic leader Lawrence, and went on to achieve huge critical acclaim and a hardcore following of devoted fans. They went on to record ten albums (one a year) through the 1980’s. The albums are being reissued in full by Cherry Red Records over the course of the next few months, so interest in the band will be very strong. “A Declaration” is therefore the perfect accompaniment to the album releases. It features a full length concert, filmed at ULU in 1987, with the band, and Lawrence’s songwriting, at the peak of their powers. Amongst the tracks featured are the Indie Chart top twenty hit “Ballad Of The Band”, and, possibly their most recognised track, the Indie Chart number one “Primitive Painters”. The cover artwork was specially designed by Lawrence, and the DVD also features an extremely rare promotional video shot by Danny Weinstein, who also produced the ULU film.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 12 June 2003 10:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Did they do 'ferdinand magellan' - If so, i preferred The Nivens live.

s.r.w. (s.r.w.), Thursday, 12 June 2003 10:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't know about the felt reissues and dvd! This is fantastic news...

Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 12 June 2003 11:55 (twenty-two years ago)

can someone post here when the lawrence interview starts? I can't stomach the music she's currently playing so I'm going to bail until he's on.

pulpo, Thursday, 12 June 2003 12:00 (twenty-two years ago)

starting. soon

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 12 June 2003 12:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Np: the utter classic: from Felt: Primitive Painters [Felt with Liz Cocteau]

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 12 June 2003 12:44 (twenty-two years ago)

i know this was an independent chart hit, but only it had daytime play on radio 1 at the time, it would have been a top 40 hit!

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 12 June 2003 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)

cheers!

pulpo, Thursday, 12 June 2003 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)

(what horrible gothick backing vox from E. Fraser tho'!)

pulpo, Thursday, 12 June 2003 12:48 (twenty-two years ago)

i love 80s goth though !

watch out for vintage footage of The Cocteau Twins on Whistle Test tonite!

The Whistle Test Years: 1984 / 1985

Reminder tonight on BBC 2 it's a trip down memory lane as The Whistle Test years, cover 1984 and 1985.

The Whistle Test Years
Thu 12 Jun, 11:50 pm - 12:30 am 40mins

It's 1984 and 1985 this week with music from REM, Billy Bragg, Lou Reed, Sade, Cocteau Twins, Everything But the Girl, The Kane Gang, The Pogues and Suzanne Vega.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 12 June 2003 12:51 (twenty-two years ago)

a namecheck for ILMs Robin Carmody on the show shocka!!!

lawrence sounding like a tweed jacketed lecturer shocka!!!

pulpo, Thursday, 12 June 2003 12:54 (twenty-two years ago)

short interview

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 12 June 2003 12:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Really? In what context was RC namechecked?

Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 12 June 2003 12:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Liz Kershaw "we have a go kart mozart review here that is almost difficult to read it's so enthusiastic - I'll give it to you to take away, but first let me read out the concluding phrase (reads bit about how people who think lawrence is mad probably stick up for the sanity of prince charles) have you heard of robin carmody?"

Lawrence says not but seems impressed by quote

Liz Kershaw says birmingham 'Bullring' shopping centre(?) mentioned in review, Lawrence talks about how much he likes it.

pulpo, Thursday, 12 June 2003 13:06 (twenty-two years ago)

did they ask him if he's ever going to finish another fucking record?

it's on the way... "and has nearly finished the second Go-Kart Mozart album, to be released in the Autumn"

More Go-Kart Mozart? That doesn't really answer Jim's question... when is another record coming out?

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 12 June 2003 13:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm sure the interview will be on the listen again section in a few days for all interested parties.

pulpo, Thursday, 12 June 2003 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

BLIMEY Robin must be chuffed! I think they'd get on quite well actually.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 12 June 2003 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw Lawrence having a drink with Vic Godard and Mark Perry the other week. He had a big hat on. I didn't go up and say hello.

Bull Ring Shopping Centre: brutalist classic. Is it still there? I think we (me & Cozen & Skidmore) had a little row about this at an FAP the same weekend.

Chuffed for Robin.

Tim (Tim), Thursday, 12 June 2003 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)

hehe look !
this thread was started more than 2 and a half years ago.

piscesboy, Thursday, 12 June 2003 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)

That's grand for Robin! :-)

Gosh, Nicole, I thought I had sent a note on the reissues around. Remind me to double check on my news-informing abilities, they might be staler than I imagined. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 June 2003 13:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw Lawrence having a drink with Vic Godard and Mark Perry the other week. He had a big hat on.

But Tim, was it a trucker hat? This is U&K.

Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 12 June 2003 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

No it was somewhere between a fishing hat and a pith helmet. But he looked pretty good in it.

Tim (Tim), Thursday, 12 June 2003 13:36 (twenty-two years ago)

''Liz Kershaw "we have a go kart mozart review here that is almost difficult to read it's so enthusiastic - I'll give it to you to take away, but first let me read out the concluding phrase (reads bit about how people who think lawrence is mad probably stick up for the sanity of prince charles) have you heard of robin carmody?"''

:-)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 12 June 2003 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, all interviewers everywhere should start asking music people "Have you ever heard of Robin Carmody?"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 June 2003 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Stains on a Decade is the Compilation-but its really disappointindg. I thought it would be a compilation of all the Felt singles, but its only a very wayward selection by Lawrence. Felt are the best band ever (my eighties obsession) but how will anyone know if the songs aren't available. Why are compilations so random (eg Blondie comps always have the dull later stuff like the Tide is High rather than Fan Mail or Man Overboard) No wonder people make CDrs for their own amusement. Lawrence! Release ALL singles now. Put Felt to bed and get on with it. Then I'll be happy.

Liliya, Friday, 13 June 2003 06:45 (twenty-two years ago)

but isn't it the case that all the singles
on 'stains...' aren't on albums ? so they will
al come out one way or another ?

piscesboy, Friday, 13 June 2003 08:04 (twenty-two years ago)

aren't the Absolutely Classic Masterpieces CDs still in print though?

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 13 June 2003 08:08 (twenty-two years ago)

the cherry red one is, the creation one aint. All the cherry red felt albums are still in print, the main good thing abt the reissues is that the creation ones will now be available again. and that means poem of the river!

am still smiling over how much lawrence sounded like a bumbling, eager to please history teacher.

pulpo, Friday, 13 June 2003 08:54 (twenty-two years ago)

thought he sounded unusually friendly
and surprisingly brummie.

piscesboy, Friday, 13 June 2003 09:34 (twenty-two years ago)

four months pass...
Somebody please tell me what 'Poem of the River' sounds like compared to their other stuff. It has real songs with vocals and everything?

All of the reissues are out now (except 'Strange Idols' I believe), and I just ordered 'Ignite the Seven Canons' and 'Forever Breathes the Lonely Word.'

Patrick South (Patrick South), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

i was interested to note he said in Ucunt that he had three albums on the go (how about he damn well release one of them?).. i'm most interested in the one that's meant to be his "Berlin"..

the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

truculent pout and heartbeat drums! (i put 'birdmen' on a tape the other day. it was so good. i'm asking myself whether or not i should get the reissues because it seems wrong to have two albums on one release. record companies shouldn't split things up or mush them together.)

youn, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

SURELY he cannot keep up dangling for NewLawrenceProduct for rest of eternity? Poem Of The River I got on CD in outlet shop as one of two-for-99p! thing a couple of years back, it's very mic-in-sock is it not? I only listened once but I'm thinking maybe not their finest hour.

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

it couldn't possibly be worse than "index". first time i heard it i thought it had to be some kind of horrible pisstake.

the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

i love index(i even own the original!)!And Poem Of The River is great! I love it all. I'm mad i tell you! the dvd on the other hand, well, it's of historical interest. the sound and picture are a little sad. oh well. oh, i forgot. Classic! Greatest band of the last 25 years. and Denim are a close second. maybe.

scott seward, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 02:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Poem Of The River is fine. Not unlike Forever Breathes the Lonely Word, with the burbly organ, relatively crisp production etc.

Classic btw! But this is not something I can debate rationally - the best bits just add up to something rather more than the some of their parts.

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 04:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Er, sum of their parts.

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 04:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Agreed - "Poem of the river" is up there as my favourite Felt album, I've never thought the production was bad, OK, the first two tracks are in mono, but who cares? It's just a perfect album from end to end.

Rob M (Rob M), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 08:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, its fine. If you like "Forever Breathes" you'll probably like it too. It's not quite as "rounded" tho'...and the production is a bit muffly.

flowersdie (flowersdie), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 09:54 (twenty-one years ago)

poem of thye river is THE best felt lp i reckon. perfect reconciliation of the splendour of fear open ended mood pop and the hammond splashed creation stuff. i have a huge problem understanding people binding about mayo thompsons production. to me it sound CRYSTALLINE.

cw (cww), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 10:24 (twenty-one years ago)

christs.81 posts in 3 years. this is like a microcosm of lawrence's career...

cw (cww), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not very symmetrical though.

flowersdie (flowersdie), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

give it time...

cw (cww), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:15 (twenty-one years ago)

But it doesn't include the word "The" in every post either.

Rob M (Rob M), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

okay okay. but let's just try and get this thread to 300 posts by tomorrow....

cw (cww), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been trying to get into Felt but they don't seem very available in the US. Are these reissues you mentioned out here, and if so where are they available? Amazon.com has a two-fer of The Strange Idols Pattern and Other Short Stories/Ignite the Seven Cannons ($16 though!!) Is that worth it?

Sonny A. (Keiko), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

strange idols pattern and other short stories is one of the best cherry red era pop efforts (moodier & more of-it's-time than their creation artifacts) , ignite the 7 cannons is quite weak on account of shocking robin guthrie production, but it has primitive painters on it which is worth any number of $$$s. not the best introduction, i'd hang out for one of the compilations ideally: bubblegum perfume preferably or absolute classic masterpieces. stains on a decade even... avoid me and a monkey on the moon like the plague though!

cw (cww), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Clairecords stocks some of the reissues -- check www.tonevendor.com. I don't think all of the originals have been rereleased yet, but they should be out by ultimo December at least.

desolert (desolate), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

me and a monkey on the moon is great!! one of the best records of the last 25 years. buy it now! and everything else too until you have bought them all. did i mention Felt are classic? please read my review of go-kart mozart's album on the village voice website too. it's a classic review! of a classic album!! you should own it already. And Back In Denim AND Denim On Ice!! They are both classic. in fact, if you look up the word classic in the dictionary you will find a picture of Lawrence!

scott seward, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i was disappointed by 'me and a monkey..." on the first few listens...didn't care much for the production & thought the songs were weak. but after a bit of time i came to love it. the lyrics are definitely some of his most affecting...all in all it seems a perfect way to end the band...and once again he's uncannily prescient in his anticipation of future musical trends; what other indie bands were using pedal steel at that time?

it's really tough to choose, but i think 'poem of the river' very well may be my favorite. 'forever breathes...' is usually singled out as the masterpiece, but i think that 'poem', coming later as it did in the catalog, is a more mature effort overall. i love the lyrics on 'forever', but sometimes they are a tad too precious/pretentious. and musically, i appreciate the more subdued, subtle vibe of 'poem'.

the opening bars of 'silver plane' kill me every time. god, that guitar tone...and then the friggin' hammond rhodes...there's something just so smoooooooth about the way that song kicks in.

'she lives by the castle' is incredible. 'dark red birds' is one of the most beautiful moments to be found on a felt record. 'stained glass windows in the sky' marries the lyrical imagery to the music to wonderful effect; by the end of the song i really feel like i'm sittin right up there on the rooftop with lawrence, watching the raindrops reflecting all the city lights...

i also have a big place in my heart for 'pictorial jackson review'; well, the non-instrumental side, anyway. (i dig most of duffy's instrumentals quite a bit; but that side is just kinda an overlong downer) ...the lovely guitar bit at the beginning of 'ivory past', the blatant lou reedisms/dylanisms in almost every song... and the giddy feeling of 'christopher st.' yeah...what a great one. lyrically, lawrence seems to be most 'lawrence' on this record; if that makes any sense...it's a distillation of all of his previous musings, complaints, defiancy, resignation, romanticism, etc.

what do you folks hear as influences on duffy's instrumentals? i know they vary widely in style...but in at least a couple of them, keith jarrett comes to mind...

Dallas Yertle (Dallas Yertle), Thursday, 30 October 2003 02:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never understood the hate directed towards "Me and a Monkey". I've always found it very touching. It's a very good summing up by Lawrence of the Felt past, and has some lovely tunes. I think I heard that some of the songs were "Poem of the River" out takes. Bubblegum Perfume I have a problem with, (its basically just all the short Felt songs recorded during the Creation period) and doesn't give the whole picture by any means, and is certainly not where I'd reccommend anyone to start listening with. I'd still say FBTLW is the best introduction, with The Splendour of Fear undeniably a treat from the Cherry Red era.

flowersdie (flowersdie), Thursday, 30 October 2003 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)

jeremy! i don't HATE me and a monkey on the moon! it's just a little workmanlike and it give the impression lawrence is actually TRYING whereas the best felt is always effortless sounding. plus the presence of journeymen like pere astor, throb etc. gives it an 80's indierock supergroup feel i'm not too keen on... the 1st 2 songs are undeniably great... but that lawrencestory about a pub rock combo from the outer hebradies covering new day dawning just sums it up for me... i don't think he does anything on that record tat isn't executed better on back in denim...other than that, it's just a cherry red/creation records - tomato/tomato kinda distinction...anyway, more importantly, where can you get the dvd from???

cw (cww), Thursday, 30 October 2003 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...
what do people think of Let the Snakes Crinkle Their Heads to Death? Short, instrumental, poppy, I really like this record and was surprised to read a scathing AMG review of it.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Friday, 13 February 2004 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Let The Snakes Crinkle Their Heads to Death is classic!!! One of the greatest instrumental l.p.'s of the last 25 years. whoever wrote that review is deaf, blind, AND dumb.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 13 February 2004 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Tommy?

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Friday, 13 February 2004 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

The singer in the band was bad and mediocre. The guitarist was good - even outstanding. The result was a combination of those contrasting factors.

the bellefox, Saturday, 14 February 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)


Where you been? ain't seen you for weeks/ You been hanging out with all those jesus freaks/ Oh yeah and I feel like giving in/ And
where were you, when I wanted to work? you were still in bed/ You're a total jerk/ There's a place for abstract and there's a place
for noise and there's a place for every kind of sound so come on now and tell me why there's a void/ It's all my fault, yes I'm to
blame/ Ain't got no money, ain't got no fame/ And that's why, I feel like giving in/ And all those songs, like crystal ball,
dismantled king /You know I love them all/ But oh, I still feel like giving in.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 14 February 2004 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
Can I just say that feels like the start of the summer now and I've fallen in love with 'Let the snakes crinkle their heads to death' all over again.

flowersdie (flowersdie), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

I have only heard one song. I think the Pinefox overstates things a bit, but is essentially right. The bass player is good too. They appeal a touch to the jam band fan in me.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

i bought Stains on a Decade and it sux royal. Just slskd some stuff from their real albums and its so much better. i need to give it a better listen, but i'd say Classic anyway for inspiring the Clientele.

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

six months pass...
I discovered FELT through the internet radio station "flashbackalternatives dot com2 (you can tune iN via itunes) ... and I am sure I will get a huge addict real soon (if I'm not already) and grab everything available.

sCat, Sunday, 16 October 2005 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

sorry for the typing... it is "flashbackalternatives dot com" and you can request quite alot of FELT songs there, as well as loads of other 80ies music....

sCat, Sunday, 16 October 2005 12:36 (nineteen years ago)

sorry for the typing... it is "flashbackalternatives dot com" and you can request quite alot of FELT songs there, as well as loads of other 80ies music....

s Cat, Sunday, 16 October 2005 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

sorry for the typing... it is "flashbackalternatives dot com" and you can request quite alot of FELT songs there, as well as loads of other 80ies music....

cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 16 October 2005 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

I thought this thread was about Minneapolis's Sean 'slug' daley of atmosphere's side project Felt: A tribute to Christina Ricci

orbX, Monday, 17 October 2005 06:05 (nineteen years ago)

since a felt thread has been revived, i'll take the opportunity to mention that last week i got an email purporting to be from maurice deebank about the uncanny accuracy of a comment i had made about primitive painters on an ILM thread a couple years ago.

i assume it was somebody yanking my chain, because it came from a UK email address and i thought deebank lived in spain. but if it wasn't, wowee!

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 17 October 2005 06:31 (nineteen years ago)

Why didn't I nominate Primitive Painters for the 80s thread?

Cunga (Cunga), Monday, 17 October 2005 06:44 (nineteen years ago)

PP is good because you hear hayward RAP.

cutty (mcutt), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:05 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...
I can't find the lyrics to "Ballad of the Band" anywhere. Any help?

wordy rappinghood (roxymuzak), Saturday, 18 November 2006 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

http://felt.planetaclix.pt/Lyrics/bubblegum.htm

svend (svend), Saturday, 18 November 2006 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

Where you been? ain't seen you for weeks/ You been hanging out with all those jesus freaks/ Oh yeah and I feel like giving in/ And
where were you, when I wanted to work? you were still in bed/ You're a total jerk/ There's a place for abstract and there's a place
for noise and there's a place for every kind of sound so come on now and tell me why there's a void/ It's all my fault, yes I'm to
blame/ Ain't got no money, ain't got no fame/ And that's why, I feel like giving in/ And all those songs, like crystal ball,
dismantled king /You know I love them all/ But oh, I still feel like giving in.

-- scott seward (skotro...), February 14th, 2004. (scott seward)

see up thread. or is this an irateverything type google laff?

pscott (elwisty), Saturday, 18 November 2006 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

and Felt are GREAT. i consign everything said on this thread written by scott seward.

pscott (elwisty), Saturday, 18 November 2006 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

I only have Forever Breathes the Lonely Word. I like everything about it except the keyboards. Played by Martin Duffy, I believe? I am not into the keyboards at all.

Zachary Scott (Zach S), Saturday, 18 November 2006 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

What a timely revival -- I just snagged the reissues of Crumbling, Splendour and Let the Snakes earlier today.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 November 2006 21:50 (eighteen years ago)

For someone who enjoys everything about Felt on Forever Breathes except for the keyboard playing, which would be a good album to get next? Which is the best pre-Denny Felt record?

Zachary Scott (Zach S), Saturday, 18 November 2006 21:52 (eighteen years ago)

Ignite The Seven Cannons is nearly perfect.

There are some of their records I don't have anymore that I rather wish I did...Snakes being one.

Pulling out Crumbling & Splendour now would be one hell of a freaky trip to the past and my senior year of high school. All my classmates were playing the latest Metallica record over and over and over. And I was there with my walkman listening to Felt & Breathless.

Umpire Teen (Bimble...), Saturday, 18 November 2006 23:11 (eighteen years ago)

i listened to both metallica and felt endlessly in high school, but then i was always very very cool. (er, you know, in the mid-80s, when metallica were cool. felt will always be cool.)i still wanna get a felt tattoo and i still haven't settled on a font.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 19 November 2006 04:44 (eighteen years ago)

Oh give me a break "I listened to both Metallica and Felt so I was endlessly cool". Right. Declaring oneself to be cool is not the same as actually being so. Get a grip.

Umpire Teen (Bimble...), Sunday, 19 November 2006 06:21 (eighteen years ago)

no way, i REALLY am cool!

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 19 November 2006 06:40 (eighteen years ago)

ask anybody.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 19 November 2006 06:46 (eighteen years ago)

I agree. He really is cool. Then again, really cool people (like myself) can easily spot other really cool people.

Zachary Scott (Zach S), Sunday, 19 November 2006 06:47 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah Scott's hellzy cooly

808 the Bassking (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 19 November 2006 12:00 (eighteen years ago)

if you can't stand the hammond organ (and i really can't imagine why that would be), the strange idols pattern and other short stories is the one for you. ignite the 7 cannons is a little bit patchy, the production is rum in places and it has organ all over it. crumbling the antiseptic beauty is similarily fine. poem of the river is pretty much perfect: looser with longer songs but lots of dappled sunlight organ i'm afraid

cw (cww), Monday, 20 November 2006 09:50 (eighteen years ago)

bimble weren't YOU the one claiming a distinction for yourself as a renegade high-school feltist? sheesh

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 20 November 2006 10:58 (eighteen years ago)

see up thread. or is this an irateverything type google laff?

ttlly didn't see that upthread!

google laff? you kiddin' me, "pscott"?

wordy rappinghood (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 00:32 (eighteen years ago)

google laffs! yr man pablo is king of them foolin in the kids for test papers, felt lyrics are a right turn but y know it could happen...

pscott (elwisty), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 00:42 (eighteen years ago)

Scott is like the mayor of chilltown.

Beth S. (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:00 (eighteen years ago)

felt are completely boring imo

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:23 (eighteen years ago)

scott seward is the coolest person on ilx. without him, this shit wouldn't even be worth reading, not even for the totally wrong amateurist roffles.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:25 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah Scott's hellzy cooly
-- 808 the Bassking

Scott is like the mayor of chilltown.
-- Beth S.

scott seward is the coolest person on ilx. without him, this shit wouldn't even be worth reading, not even for the totally wrong amateurist roffles.
-- hstencil

I was feeling pretty great until that last comment clarified who the recipient of the praise was.

Zachary Scott (Zach S), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:28 (eighteen years ago)

sorry dude, no one beats the seward. NOBODY!

http://www.droppin.com/droppinnew/images/Reality/SurvivorPalau/James.jpg

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:31 (eighteen years ago)

unfortunately i can't find a screenshot of the seinfeld wiz any more.

http://games.telenet.be/images/movies/28/01/125t_feld1_resize.jpg

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:34 (eighteen years ago)

It's so heartwarming when stence and I agree on something!

Beth S. (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

god i didn't half love me some FELt back in the day.

sorta can't really see the fuss now. weird.

pisces (piscesx), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:50 (eighteen years ago)

"Ballad of the Band" and "Primitive Painters" are SO good. I've never heard anything else from Felt that seemed anywhere near as good.

I.M. From Hollywood (i_m_from_hollywood), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

the bimble guy's weird

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 23:08 (eighteen years ago)

sunlight bathed the golden glow is at least as good as ballad and is much better than the overrated primitive painters

electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 23:45 (eighteen years ago)

Call me weird, RJG? Why that's not too far from "eccentric"! I must say I'm flattered! :)

For I do get tired of the self-congratulatory in-crowd of this board, and the overinflated egos that go along with that. It really makes this place much more boring than it has to be, and that's what I was trying to express. Scott's comment seemed to fall right in line with just the kind of thing that I particularly disdain on this board. Don't any of you get tired of this shit? We could be talking about music earnestly but instead we're looking at smart alec pictures of irrelevant crap to the thread in question with unamusing in-jokes to accompany them, or as Hoosteen brilliantly pointed out not too long ago -

"thx to old-skool ilx0rs for letting us have this discussion vs. exasperatedly linking to discussions you've ALREADY HAD DAMMIT about authenticity viz instrumentation.

-- Hoosteen (merlindude0...), November 20th, 2006."


In any case, to go back to the Scott's comment, I mean, to think that all a supposedly intelligent human being can say in this world is essentially "I'm cooler than you because I like both Felt & Metallica" I mean, man, I really ask a lot more out of my message boards than that. But hey, to each his own. You can have him.

Only The Stones Remain (Bimble...), Thursday, 23 November 2006 07:45 (eighteen years ago)

Nothing of theirs grabbed me immediately like "Sunlight bathed..." and 'penelope tree" did. Does anything else compare?

Spanky McGee III (Spanky McGee III), Thursday, 23 November 2006 08:24 (eighteen years ago)

A few posts up I notice Zachary has confused Martin Duffy & Martin Denny. I'm sure the former would be flattered.

'Ballad of the Band' = best single Creation ever released, if not, indeed the best song.

bham (bham), Thursday, 23 November 2006 08:37 (eighteen years ago)

x-post

Well, The Splendour of Fear has a very similar feel to Penelope Tree on all its tracks, although is maybe not as poppy in approach. If you like Sunlight Bathed... then do you already have The Strange Idol's Pattern And Other Short Stories? For my money Spanish House and Dismantled King... off that are certainly as immediate as SB.

Bill A (Bill A), Thursday, 23 November 2006 08:40 (eighteen years ago)

STRANGE IDOLS is the one i keep going back to, though i have to really be in the mood for that band -- not like an everyday listen, for me.

yetimike (McGonigal), Thursday, 23 November 2006 09:09 (eighteen years ago)

bimble, remember you being weird from this: Your opinion, please: 366-band, 411 track 1981 box set

try reading some of your own posts, from there

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 23 November 2006 09:49 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think the Felt/Metallica thing was entirely serious.

Who would have guessed, back in 1986 (or whenever) that Britian would eventually be taken over by Polish Jesus freaks and we would all be hanging out with them?

I think I have just made a C86/UKIP connection.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 23 November 2006 11:16 (eighteen years ago)

Nothing of theirs grabbed me immediately like "Sunlight bathed..." and 'penelope tree" did. Does anything else compare?

Hell no, are you kidding?

You can ask a lot out of life, and you can be wayward, but to think anything could compare to "Penelope Tree" is just asking too much.

Only The Stones Remain (Bimble...), Thursday, 23 November 2006 11:32 (eighteen years ago)

bimble on the new order thread, is also odd.

benrique (Enrique), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:20 (eighteen years ago)

weird old bimble... I just had a wee look at that 1981 thread again

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:43 (eighteen years ago)

Hahahah

Only The Stones Remain (Bimble...), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:50 (eighteen years ago)

Look, just forget it guys,

put on some George Benson or something

hahahahah

I gotta get some sleep, yo!

Only The Stones Remain (Bimble...), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:51 (eighteen years ago)

so weird

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:56 (eighteen years ago)

i'm sorry, bimble, i thought you were making fun of metallica fans and trying to prove that you were so much more refined cuz you were listening to felt instead. i probably got that wrong cuz that would have been really stupid if that was what you meant. and i wanted to point out that in my high school in 1985/6 listening to felt was just about as popular as listening to metallica. meaning, not very. and obviously this doesn't make me "cool" for loving both bands back then. i was cool no matter what.

i shouldn't post on felt threads. i have no critical distance and i get all defensive and weird. i act like everyone who doesn't love lawrence as much as i do is a troll and i must kill them. and that ain't right!

for the record, people cooler than me:

lawrence
werner herzog
hayley mills

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 23 November 2006 14:25 (eighteen years ago)

But Hayley was uncool enough to give birth to Crispian Mills. :-(

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 November 2006 14:28 (eighteen years ago)

seven months pass...

so after a longgg time of sorta wondering about felt i bought "absolute classic masterpieces" today and it's really rad! i like the earlier songs better than the "primitive painters"-type stuff i think; the high 80's production on some of that is a little much for me. maybe i'll come around. but man, good guitar jams on a bunch of this.

also scott is such a total bro.

pretzel walrus, Saturday, 21 July 2007 05:27 (eighteen years ago)

I have a doublecd of "Ignite the Seven Cannons" and "Strange Idol's Patterns", which is rather nifty and I like a lot of the tracks on it. "Primitive Painters" is above and away the song of theirs I love the most though. And it isn't just the Liz Fraser vocal, its the lushness of the arrangements, such a joyous, full, textured song.

Trayce, Saturday, 21 July 2007 05:49 (eighteen years ago)

A few posts up I notice Zachary has confused Martin Duffy & Martin Denny. I'm sure the former would be flattered.
'Ballad of the Band' = best single Creation ever released, if not, indeed the best song.

-- bham (bham), Thursday, 23 November 2006 08:37 (7 months ago)

responding 7 months later, I say

Hee-Ya!

Z S, Saturday, 21 July 2007 06:37 (eighteen years ago)

I have a doublecd of "Ignite the Seven Cannons" and "Strange Idol's Patterns",

Jealous? ME???

Bimble, Saturday, 21 July 2007 10:12 (eighteen years ago)

Hahah you want me to make you a copy Bimbledear? It'd be a HUEG file tho.

Trayce, Saturday, 21 July 2007 10:25 (eighteen years ago)

Your opinion, please: 366-band, 411 track 1981 box set

RJG, Saturday, 21 July 2007 10:26 (eighteen years ago)

I assume you know the relevance of that thread to this one is nearly nil, RJG.

Bimble, Saturday, 21 July 2007 10:39 (eighteen years ago)

don't assume

RJG, Saturday, 21 July 2007 10:49 (eighteen years ago)

BAHAHAHAHAH

(I feel like I've waiting to say this all my life)

BECAUSE I'LL MAKE AN ASS OUT OF YOU AND ME

Bimble, Saturday, 21 July 2007 10:55 (eighteen years ago)

you're a bit stupid

RJG, Saturday, 21 July 2007 11:05 (eighteen years ago)

Why, because I fail to see the why the link you posted has relevance here?

Bimble, Saturday, 21 July 2007 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

to be honest there are a few different reasons

RJG, Saturday, 21 July 2007 18:43 (eighteen years ago)

I'm well aware you don't like me RJG. You make that clear with an insult or two every time I come across you here. It gets old. So you don't like me? Fine. Not everyone has to like everybody else, you know? Go your own way then and quit this same routine. You seem to be upset with me because of fights I had with people I mended fences with eons ago, and frankly I think *that's* stupid. You even got upset when I made a comment to my friend grimly fiendish thinking it was rude, but actually it was an inside joke between him and I and he knew perfectly well what I meant. These things didn't even involve you, man. Get over it.

Bimble, Saturday, 21 July 2007 19:00 (eighteen years ago)

Your opinion, please: 366-band, 411 track 1981 box set

RJG, Saturday, 21 July 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

Ha! *rolls eyes* Hey, whatever makes you happy, man.

Bimble, Saturday, 21 July 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)

I like felt

RJG, Saturday, 21 July 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

vintage

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 11:37 (seventeen years ago)

seven months pass...

I PULLED OUT PRIMITIVE PAINTERS LOUD ON VINYL AND I KNOW THE NEIGHBORS HATE ME NOW

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Monday, 12 May 2008 03:07 (seventeen years ago)

three months pass...

lawrence of belgravia is gettnig a screening at the barbican

http://www.barbican.org.uk/film/series.asp?id=597&show=info

thanks bob.

cw, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 13:50 (sixteen years ago)

fuckin awes, thx for heads-up

special guest stars mark bronson, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 13:51 (sixteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

the early stuff sounds somewhere in between victorialand-era cocteaus and dire straits.

Charlie Howard, Friday, 7 August 2009 02:56 (sixteen years ago)

I PULLED OUT PRIMITIVE PAINTERS LOUD ON VINYL AND I KNOW THE NEIGHBORS HATE ME NOW

― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Monday, May 12, 2008 3:07 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

scott seward, Friday, 7 August 2009 03:08 (sixteen years ago)

Felt so classic. "Pictorial Jackson Review"! OH.

bamcquern, Friday, 7 August 2009 06:06 (sixteen years ago)

They're flawed but I find them always a pleasant listen. The early singles are GREAT listenable pop, the albums might be difficult for an initiate.

The Worst Chef in America!! (u s steel), Friday, 7 August 2009 14:28 (sixteen years ago)

three months pass...

DON'T GO

psychgawsple, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 19:33 (fifteen years ago)

TO THE SPANISH HOUSE CAUSE YOU KNOW IT'S A TRAP

psychgawsple, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

I listen to "Forever Breathes the Lonely Word" and "Crumbling the Antiseptic Beauty" a LOT.

The organ parts on FBTLW are so killer, totally makes the album for me.

And lately I get a little misty about Bimble when I hear "All the People I like Are Those That are Dead".

twice boiled cabbage is death, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 19:51 (fifteen years ago)

Read "Song Man" by Will Hodgkinson for very depressing Lawrence stories.

fit and working again, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 19:54 (fifteen years ago)

stains on a decade comp is ace

Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 19:55 (fifteen years ago)

I prefer the two "Absolute Classic Masterpieces" compilations myself. And then went and gathered up the remaining singles tracks for a bit more. "Primitive Painters" still rocks my world but overall I've grown to love all the singles.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 15 November 2009 04:15 (fifteen years ago)

Dud. So I decided at the time, and do still now. There's a difference between understatement and plain weakness.

B'wana Beast, Sunday, 15 November 2009 07:38 (fifteen years ago)

my drunken hate for 'b'wana beast' is indescribable

psychgawsple, Sunday, 15 November 2009 11:12 (fifteen years ago)

ahh this is why they created 'suggest ban'

psychgawsple, Sunday, 15 November 2009 11:14 (fifteen years ago)

Classic beyond any reasonable definition of the word, and that goes for pretty much every stage of their career. Current obsession (in misty autumnal UK) is with The Stagnant Pool, especially once it settles into its effortless, spectral second half. SO GOOD.

Bill A, Sunday, 15 November 2009 21:13 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

Lawrence meets GIRLS. http://www.magicrpm.com/artistes/girls/videos/girls-meet-lawrence-premier-episode

piscesx, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

what's the Felt song playing at around 3:40 into that video?

one less bastard (gnarly sceptre), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 01:36 (fifteen years ago)

it's familiar but yeah i'm not sure

lawrence is starting to resemble a bald vini reilly

mr bollock apple (electricsound), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 01:50 (fifteen years ago)

It's "The World is as Soft as Lace"

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 02:37 (fifteen years ago)

the world is soft as lace is a splendid accompaniment to heavy snowfall. sometimes i think the splendour of fear is their best record.

cw, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:41 (fifteen years ago)

It's really strange watching that interview. I've been a massive fan of his since buying Denim On Ice when it came out but I've never heard him speak before and in a lot of the pictures I've seen he's looked very different.

I would say Strange Idol Patterns is their masterpiece followed by Forever Breathes the Lonely Word. A lot of their best tracks are spread out on one off singles or B-sides that's why the compilations are so essential too.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:55 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, but there's singles tracks they left off the two "Absolute Classic Masterpieces" compilations, which I tracked down and put together:
Break It
Red Indians (single version)
Something Sends Me To Sleep (alternate version)
My Face Is On Fire
A Preacher In New England
Now Summer Spreads Its Wings Again
Mexican Bandits
Sunlight Bathed In Golden Glow (single version)
Cathedral (new version)
Candles In A Church
Rain Of Crystal Spires
Gather Up Your Wings And Fly
Fire Circle
Buried Wild Blind
Female Star
Tuesday's Secret

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:04 (fifteen years ago)

i've listened to about 7 of the above quite coincidently tonight! snow always brings out the felt in my house...

cw, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:17 (fifteen years ago)

I only heard the single version of Sunlight Bathed the Golden Glow when I bought the Stains on a Decade compilation last year. It really took me by surprise, it's so beautiful.

I was reading about the Felt discography somewhere recently, it said My Face is On Fire was redone as Whirlpool Vision of Shame which I never knew. I always wondered why it was the only single they left off all of the compilations.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:21 (fifteen years ago)

>the world is soft as lace is a splendid accompaniment to heavy snowfall.

otm. I've been hammering ACM Vol 1 all day at home, whilst my workplace is shut and there's a foot of snow outside the front door. I must have listened to The Stagnant Pool five times; I love the way that Deebank's intricate and delicate solo gives way to Lawrence's sparse twangings, but then he comes back at the end to have the final word.

Bill A, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:24 (fifteen years ago)

i've listened to about 7 of the above quite coincidently tonight! snow always brings out the felt in my house...

― cw, Wednesday, January 6, 2010 9:17 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

They are a great band to flick through random tracks of and I agree they sound great in the winter. I just played a few and found myself amazed all over again at how strange and wonderful Space Blues is.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:24 (fifteen years ago)

Felt - Pick Only 27

scott seward, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:53 (fifteen years ago)

anyone know what's happened to the 'Lawrence of Belgravia' film?

zappi, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:57 (fifteen years ago)

there was a screening of a short (20 odd minutes) work in progress of Lawrence of Belgravia last year at the barbican, along with another paul kerry film about dolly mixture. Lawrence refused to attend because it wasn't a proper premiere.

.

cw, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:24 (fifteen years ago)

five months pass...

Just felt (ha!) like saying that Voyage To Illumination is fucking amazing. Both the song and the title. Who needs lyrics with a title like that anyway?

Spikey, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 13:37 (fifteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

i'm enjoying this:

http://dominorad.io/show/lawrence_from_felt

cw, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:43 (fourteen years ago)

Excellent!!! Craving old school radio these days.

So Folkloric (u s steel), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:05 (fourteen years ago)

That's a really excellent playlist. Old school radio still exists, but it's harder to track down! Google "playlist" and some of your favorite obscure bands, you're bound to find someone on your wavelength.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:22 (fourteen years ago)

one month passes...

I do so enjoy artists gushing about their favorite bands, especially when I share their feelings: http://thequietus.com/articles/06604-felt-lawrence-tim-burgess-interview

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:57 (fourteen years ago)

four years pass...

"she lives by the castle" is so fucking good. you forget people aren't supposed to be good at guitar

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 4 February 2016 23:34 (nine years ago)

how long until those reissues show up?

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 4 February 2016 23:38 (nine years ago)

They're probably coming out the same day as the DVD or the next Go-Kart album. It's very frustrating being a fan at times. I have all those CD reissues that came out 10 years ago. I'd be tempted to try and sell them if I knew the vinyl reissues were on their way.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 4 February 2016 23:40 (nine years ago)

two months pass...

"gather up your wings and fly" would have done keith emerson proud

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 11 April 2016 17:43 (nine years ago)

three months pass...

Cherry Red have posted a couple of things about the upcoming Felt reissues. Can't wait to see exactly what they are.

https://twitter.com/CherryRedGroup?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 28 July 2016 03:25 (nine years ago)

wow thanks

new noise, Thursday, 28 July 2016 03:43 (nine years ago)

So this latest round is strictly vinyl? Tch, I could go for expanded CDs with all the attendant non-lp tracks.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 28 July 2016 18:35 (nine years ago)

Is there a link with full details of titles, format and release date?

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 29 July 2016 00:25 (nine years ago)

Not yet. There's just the two posts on Cherry Red's twitter hinting the news is coming soon. Looks like it will be vinyl as they labels say the albums come with a 7" single. Hopefully they'll bring out something on CD and vinyl and it's not too limited.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 29 July 2016 04:37 (nine years ago)

awesome. i was just looking at prices of forever breathes the lonely word on discogs and was horrified

bitcoin bajas (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 05:31 (nine years ago)

three weeks pass...

For years I was content with just the two "Absolute Classic Masterpieces" compilations (plus the other missing singles tracks) but I just bought the first 4 albums on 2 CDs and am very glad I did so*. The juxtaposition of the instrumental pieces with Lawrence's tortured Verlaine-esque vocal tracks is really a key feature to the albums proper.

Next up I think I'll pick up the "Forever Breathes The Lonely Word / Poem Of The River" two-fer.

*I was hoping for expanded reissues from Captured Tracks but they said they're only working on vinyl.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 23:32 (eight years ago)

I think it's only the first four albums that came out on those two-fers. I don't think the albums on Creation got the same reissue treatment.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 00:49 (eight years ago)

i own a forever/poem two-fer, might be german or something

brimstead, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 00:51 (eight years ago)

this one: https://www.discogs.com/Felt-Poem-Of-The-River-Forever-Breathes-The-Lonely-Word/release/436453

brimstead, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 00:51 (eight years ago)

I feel like Lawrence would not approve of that rejigged cover design

soref, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 00:55 (eight years ago)

Oh, I didn't know that issue existed. I've got all the 2002-3 reissues in those thin cardboard cases. Probably going to sell those on once they announce the vinyl reissues. I had those original Cherry Red two-fers of the first four albums but sold them years ago.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 00:58 (eight years ago)

train above the city and pictorial jackson got a similarly tacky two-fer reissue back then too.

new noise, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 01:13 (eight years ago)

I feel like Lawrence would not approve of that rejigged cover design

That's why I replace the covers in my digital library. ;-)

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 02:06 (eight years ago)

There's a Japanese CD that combines "poem" and "let the snakes", which is pretty weird imo. Was "let the snakes" on creation? A twofer with "let the snakes" and "forever" would make sense chronologically and I think musically the former would make a nice prelude to the latter. And it'd only be like 45 minutes total.

as a side note, "A wave crashed on rocks" is so so good, maybe my favorite Lawrence lyric. Still haven't heard the last two albums, though.

brimstead, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 02:24 (eight years ago)

Let The Snakes was their first album on Creation. Probably not the kind of record Alan McGee was expecting when he signed them.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 02:34 (eight years ago)

haha otm

brimstead, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 02:38 (eight years ago)

I love it to death, though. It inspires me greatly

brimstead, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 02:39 (eight years ago)

It's grown on me a lot over the years but I'd still say it's one of my least favourite Felt records. It is much more enjoyable than Train Above the City.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 02:42 (eight years ago)

For me, the melodies and arrangements really evokes a really heavy/'fragrant' wood-y/manicured forest atmosphere, kind of similar to the clientele (although the clientele are more straight up 'forest-y', imo). one of those 'album hits you at an intensely vulnerable part of your life' thing probably

The slower, bluesier stuff I've heard from Train is good (one for the out of context thread). There's definitely a zillion jazz solo piano albums that run circles around it, obviously

brimstead, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 02:51 (eight years ago)

I'm going to have to go back to it now you've compared it to The Clientele.

They're a really hard band to rank. Right now I think I'd put their albums in this order. The top two are set in stone and Train will always be my least favourite but I'm always changing my mind about the others.

1. The Strange Idol Patterns
2. Forever Breathes the Lonely Word
3. Poem of the River
4. The Splendour of Fear
5. Me & a Monkey on the Moon
6. Ignite the Seven Cannons
7. The Pictorial Jackson Review
8. Crumbling the Antiseptic Beauty
9. Let the Snakes Crinkle
10. Train Above the City

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 02:59 (eight years ago)

the first two albums are my favorite. That grey twofer "changed my life" or whatever back in high school

brimstead, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 03:04 (eight years ago)

it was like "oh wow, a band decided to make albums based on that penultimate track on joy division's closer. And they added beautiful heart-stopping guitar playing, and the singing is by a fey Tom Verlaine, I am So down, These are my guys!"

brimstead, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 03:09 (eight years ago)

ya know i thought seven cannons was my favorite album until i realized just now that the album i was listening to on spotify was a twofer and that all my favorites were actually on strange idols

bitcoin bajas (diamonddave85), Thursday, 1 September 2016 02:02 (eight years ago)

five months pass...

Anyone know the back story behind Liz and Robin backing Lawrence on "Primitive Painters"?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 18 February 2017 18:41 (eight years ago)

umm because guthrie produced the album?

new noise, Saturday, 18 February 2017 18:58 (eight years ago)

wtf happened to those reissues? surely Lawrence needs some more heroin. he should be reissuing everything.

brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 18 February 2017 18:59 (eight years ago)

The Cocteau Twins were fans of Felt and invited us to tour with them in 1984. We became friends and Robin Guthrie said he'd like to produce us.

I don't think there's much more to it than this.

new noise, Saturday, 18 February 2017 19:03 (eight years ago)

this interview is pretty exhaustive on how Guthrie came to produce Ignite, and the recording of Primitive Painters:

http://www.uncut.co.uk/blog/the-view-from-here/an-interview-with-lawrence-primitive-painters-was-this-great-big-statement-felt-were-going-to-be-massive-69839

soref, Saturday, 18 February 2017 19:58 (eight years ago)

Over the years I’ve collected some of the master tapes and on the reissues that are coming out, I’ve tried to extract the Cocteau Twins from my record

hmmm...

a but (brimstead), Saturday, 18 February 2017 20:13 (eight years ago)

i emailed cherry red about the reissues 6 months ago and they said it was looking like sometime in 2017, then i tweeted at them the other week and they said they had no news

just another (diamonddave85), Saturday, 18 February 2017 22:23 (eight years ago)

Just checked earlier in the thread and it was last July when they first posted those tweets suggesting the reissues were on their way. I'm sure they even put up pictures of Lawrence signing them.

When the last Go-Kart album came out, my first order of the vinyl seemed to get lost in the post. When I contacted Cherry Red about it they said Lawrence would happily send out a replacement copy but "it might be a while to get it signed as Lawrence has disappeared on us again". I'm guessing that he's behind the delays.

kitchen person, Saturday, 18 February 2017 22:43 (eight years ago)

Thanks for that Uncut link, exactly what I was looking for!

There are some days "Primitive Painters" is the most perfect song ever.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 19 February 2017 01:57 (eight years ago)

https://www.mixcloud.com/WEEKEND_Festival/weekend-mixtape5-lawrence/

Many of the songs in this podcast, which Lawrence recorded exclusively for Week-End, will only be known to aficionados, yet they lay bare the foundations on which indie and Britpop was built. An unusual history lesson by an indie icon who rarely talks, but who turns out to be a very eloquent speaker.

new noise, Sunday, 19 February 2017 04:40 (eight years ago)

Listened to Felt all day today. Perfect for a rainy winter day.

brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 19 February 2017 05:06 (eight years ago)

just browsing France Castle's Instagram (love Clay Pipe & her artwork), and check out this post.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BNR-vtbhaw8/

brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 19 February 2017 06:02 (eight years ago)

https://mobile.twitter.com/wrongsreversed/status/802558977020198916

Another view of that incident, this one from a camera behind the goal.

Tim, Sunday, 19 February 2017 08:19 (eight years ago)

one month passes...

christ Lawrence Of Belgravia is really boring and awful-looking and depressing as all hell. if they showed it in schools to young musicians they'd all go off and do accountancy or something.

piscesx, Saturday, 1 April 2017 14:22 (eight years ago)

Totally agree. I thought it was a massive letdown after the long wait to see it. It really didn't seem as interesting as it could have been.

kitchen person, Saturday, 1 April 2017 20:22 (eight years ago)

eleven months pass...

"Felt reissues, sweet!"
Oh... $40 LPs and $45 CD+7" boxes... no extra tracks... ok so downloads it is.

my dreams in the hell-pits (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 8 March 2018 21:37 (seven years ago)

two years pass...

Felt's entire discography in one place.

giraffe, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 13:08 (four years ago)

no singles *thumbs down*

brimstead, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:42 (four years ago)

Yeah, weird

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:03 (four years ago)

nah, just lazy

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:39 (four years ago)

Why did they change the name of Crinkle, I wonder?

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:47 (four years ago)

Lawrence hated the name

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:50 (four years ago)

I can think of at least a dozen other Laurence-related songs/band names that are more worthy of "hate"

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:53 (four years ago)

Let the Snakes Eat Crinkle-Cut Fries

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 17:03 (four years ago)

there's a bit that really stuck with me in the David Cavanagh book about Creation records where Lawrence talks about Bobby Gillespie asking him if the forthcoming Felt album had a title yet, Lawrence replying that it was going to be called 'Let the Snakes Crinkle Their Heads to Death' and Gillespie responding with incredulity - "Crinkle? What sort of word's that?"

soref, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 17:18 (four years ago)

that's a bit rich coming from a Scottish dude

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 17:32 (four years ago)

Never forget
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/63/Primal_Scream_-_Chaosmosis.png

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 18:16 (four years ago)

.

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 18:30 (four years ago)

he changed the name and before that he cropped the cover art. was he embarrassed at his headwear?

brimstead, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 22:58 (four years ago)

maybe just realized it was totally un-felt like to have an actual band photo for a cover

brimstead, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 22:59 (four years ago)

or ended hating one of the former members

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 23:10 (four years ago)

one year passes...

RIP Martin Duffy

MaresNest, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 10:36 (two years ago)

Aww man RIP teenage genius.

Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 12:49 (two years ago)

Awww, creator of some of the most beautiful music. Waaaaay too young.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 20:06 (two years ago)

Incredibly sad. Martin's playing sparkled over Felt's best records and added a lustre to every musical situation he was involved in. a true keyboard wizard.

cw, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 20:26 (two years ago)

Totally agree with that. The Felt albums he played on are the best. He was also one of the people responsible for bringing back keyboards as a "rock" instrument. There hadn't really been any fresh & distinctive keyboard players outside of synth-pop since maybe Una Baines.

everything, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 22:16 (two years ago)

I mean, come on!
Here's the link to the song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulTQW6oFoTs

everything, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 07:04 (two years ago)

Whoops wrong ling. I mean this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-9bv1FO72A

everything, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 07:05 (two years ago)

Ling link whatevs. Ok I'm going to bed. RIP Mr. Duffy. A great keyboard player!

everything, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 07:07 (two years ago)

How rare was it for that generation of musicians to use organ rather than synth in the mid-80s? I can only think of Talk Talk as an example.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 17:54 (two years ago)

It wasn’t super-common but also by no means unheard-of, most often involving acts who were more or less 60s / beat inspired - off the top of my head you can expect to hear organ on records by the likes of the Prisoners, Makin’ Time, TVPs, Jasmine Minks, bit later on the Sea Urchins, Inspiral Carpets.

Tim, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 19:33 (two years ago)

Interesting, though if Duffy was using a Hammond, that's a lot more trouble to take on the road than a more compact "garage-rock" style organ.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 21:13 (two years ago)

Identify the keyboard, nerds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuXIMylGQKo

everything, Thursday, 22 December 2022 06:36 (two years ago)


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