Navigating through Krautrock

A lot of "krautrock" has strong progrock tendencies, and this includes much of the above IMO. It always makes me laugh when some bullshit artist hipster starts banging on abt how it *just isn't prog, right* (cf thommy baby, wee bobby) Somehow, You jusy KNOW that if hawkwind, man, art bears or peter hammill had been german, they'd fucking love them (sigh.) Anyway, there's also stuff that I like, such as eloy, grobschnitt, jane, guru guru and the like that, given thee good doktor's anti prog preledictions, he'd probably best avoid. Be aware that just like british progressive/underground bands, most krautrock bands were only good up to a certain point - ESPECIALLY amon duul2!

One other important thing - if any ILM-ers based in or near leicester have contact details for thee "ultima thule" record shop, please post them. don't even waste your time with any other sources of kraut reissues. What these people don't know, isn't worth knowing.

A friend of mine recently described julian cope as being like "guru guru, if they'd been managed by malcolm mclaren" GOD how I wish *I'd* though of that!

Something else I though of - germany in the '70's was a bit like jamaica in the '70's, in that the amazing & unique music made there will NEVER happen again, because of the globalised media, MTV etc, and that it is UTTERLY futile to try to recreate what they did, not that it stops FOOLS trying, ov course. x0x0

and I'll add: - Cluster, any good? And what albums? - Of course it's prog rock. I always thought it was a bit ironic that all those punks who trashed prog-rock got into Can in a big way.

I've always hated the "If X had made it instead of Y you'd like it" argument. It presumes too much about another person's tastes, it is a dead end, and it's silly too because X didn't make it and because who makes records is part of how we respond to music - the context, the package, etc.

Still what's up with Cluster?

It just tends to piss me off that weird 1970's german bands (many of whom were great) get lionised, often by fckng posers, whilst weird 1970's british bands (many of whom were great) are "prog"=destroy. It just makes no sense, and I'm damn sure there's something more than just musical taste being paraded there (er, not here, though, it seems :)

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BUY MORE HAWKWIND

It's all part of being a music fan - lots of the fun is affectation.

Personally I like Hawkwind and AD II about equally = not much.

The other really big aspect is that you can hear/read the lyrics on a lot of British prog records and if lyrics are important to you that might be a turn-off. Whereas that's less the case with the Germans.

And country of origin is important. There's something heroic about Turbonegro rocking Sweden in a way that there isn't about Buckcherry rocking the US, say.

The bit abt the lyrics is a good point - would a native-english speaking band have got away with kraftwerks lyrics? or can's?

Good point abt yer band rocking sweden too. I hope they're better than buckcherry though...er....

Anyway, Someone mentioned ashra tempel, who I forgot abt. They're also one of my favourites, "join inn" being the pick IMO. However, here's a warning - they did do two stinkers, which I'd *avoid*, even if cheap. "seven up" would be OK were it not for singing (tim leary IIRC) so k-lame it makes you feel all horrible inside, and "featuring rosi" is just a clinker. Otherwise, any ash ra tempel album featuring klaus schulze is worth picking up. One of their later albums, "blackouts", is quite nice for that 2am knackered-but-can't- sleep thang.

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More info at Brainwashed Releases

April 23rd (I think the UK releases are being imoported /issued on Gronland) * Neu! - Neu! CD/LP, Neu! II CD/LP and Neu! 75 CD/LP [official reissues] (Grönland, Germany)

May 15th for the US folk trendy electronic label Astralwerks * Neu! - Neu! CD, Neu! II CD and Neu! 75 CD [official reissues] (Astralwerks, US)

Previously these have been available from some dodgy illegal Italian label (where copyright law is extremely weak), I picked up a copy of Neu 2 last year.

If you check my weblog regularly you would have been aware of the Neu reissues earlier this month.

As a personal preference my favorite albums are the first two Harmonia albums, which are superb. They were a kind of super group of Cluster and Neu! members, and were representative of the more mellow side of these two groups. Unfortunately they are quite hard to get hold of as you can only get them on Import from Japan as far as I know. I managed to get them from Rough Trade in Neals Yard, but on two seperate visits.

I can't really speak to how much their other albums 'rock' but Tangerine Dream are certainly krautrock; Zeit is an album that actually deserves the description 'glacial'. As far as I've heard anything from earlier on in their catalog will be good and also different enough from the others to make exploring worthwhile.

Can 'Free Concert'
Can 'Future Days & Past Nights'
Amon Duul II 'Live in London'

yeah, man. thank god it isn't cool anymore, i can stop feigning interest in it and start feigning interest in something new.

Remember when we were 15 and still cared what was cool?

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WORLDS ATOMISE!
OCEANS BOIL INTO INFINITY!!
MAN ERECTS HIMSELF!!
LAUGHS INTO THE GLIMMERING LIGHTS!!!
AND....DISSAPPEARS!!!

(music kicks off, sounding like pink floyd on military-grade steroid drugs)

I mean it's fuckign great really, but you know, the thought of someone buying it b/c they're looking for krautrock like prml scrm, what could be more classic?

Wallenstein suck, but are bizarrely great on that cosmic jokers album they're on.

That sergius golowin album is INFURIATING. SHUT THE FUCK UP PLEASE SERGIUS, though I guess tim leary on that ash ra album is worse.

zweistein... so shit.

and those "unknown deutschland" comps and psi-fi label 'reissues' were allegedly the work of a 'different' genesis p'orridge. heh. some of those were actually alright in a basement synth noodling sorta way.

I don't even trust my judgement

I googled, but couldn't find anything.

Wow, somebody else has heard Zweistein. It is shit, yes. The copy we had @ the record shop sold for a huge amount of money, nevertheless. If it were only a little better known, no doubt it would be legendary, & have a similar rep to metal machine music and the godz (ahem)

Try Amon Duul 2's "Yeti" and Popol Vuh's "Das Hoheleid Salomos", perhaps Nath?

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Remember when we were 15 and still cared what was cool?

dudes, krautrock and hawkwind both OBV rule. i just wanted to stir up some controversy.

as for navigating, ive really been enjoying the more garage-y mooney can stuff lately. the combination of raw and psychedelic and hypnotic is exactly what the doctor ordered for me. that, i suppose, is also why ive been listening to so much hawkwind lately.

1st 5 can
All 3 Neu

Thats all I can think of off the top of my head, Nath.

Cluster - Zuckerzeit
Tangerine Dream - Zeit
Kraftwerk - Ralf and Florian/ Autobahn/ Radioactivity (plus everything else)

that i do not know, but D is fucking good.

Faust - s/t/ Faust Tapes/ Faust IV

Didn't mention later Kraftwerk because I assumed everyone has/likes them and aren't really considered 'krautrock'.

-- Tripmaker (tripmaker...), August 12th, 2005.

I think so, too, and wish someone would release the whole Johannes Vester solo album.

T Dream got way, way worse than amon duul ever did. The worst AD acheived was utter mediocrity, TD, early eighties onwards, are actually offensive to listen to. Also, not AD equivalent of the "dream mixes". I don't think you can go far wrong w/any /70's TD, though.

Whereas Amon Duul II's "Hijack", which came out in 1974, is rubbish

http://www.connollyco.com/discography/tangerine_dream/

Scroll down to "Hyperborea" which is probably the last one I could stand to listen to, and then see how much further you have to scroll down to to get to the bottom (metaphorically & literally!)

"Stratosfear" is one of my favourites, I must admit.

Can: Monster Movie; Tago Mago; Ege Bamyasi; Future Days; Soon Over Babaluma
Faust: The Wumme Years (Faust; So Far; Faust Tapes; 71 Minutes; BBC Sessions +); IV
Neu!: Neu!; Neu! 2; Neu! '75

Actually pashmina would love these shops.

please, someone, find me a genre this isn't true of.

following a lengthy, drunken and immensely enjoyable chat with my biopsychology tutor, during which i explained how my knowledge of krautrock is patchy as fuck, he presented me with a CD on wednesday containing the following albums:

amon düül II: yeti
ash ra tempel: seven up
can: future days
cluster: zuckerzeit
harmonia: deluxe
klaus schulze: blackdance
la düsseldorf: la düsseldorf
michael rother: radio (singles)
tangerine dream: poland (warsaw concert)

it is blowing my little mind. zuckerzeit ... i can't believe that was 1974. 1974! and right now i'm grooving happily, privately to michael rother.

i didn't realise how richly melodic so much of this was; i've always thought, aye, krautrock, chugga-CHUGGA-chugga-CHUGGA, nice one. but really, i feel whole new musical vistas are opening up here. surprisingly, the one i engaged with the least (which doesn't mean i didn't enjoy it; just that it didn't captivate me as much) was future days.

not listened to the acid-drenched ash ra tempel thing yet: really looking forward to that.

All those albums on one CD?

-rom, then. smartarse ;)

(although it did confuse the shit out of me at first when i looked at the tracklisting: he said he'd do me a krautrock sampler, and i thought it was going to be a mix.)

You should get the top 50 albums in julian copes list then get the rest!

"Future Days" isn't in his Top 50

Along with some other kanonikal albums

"Future Days" isn't in his Top 50

Part of me wonders if Jaki Liebezeit had never made that comment about not being a fan of Future Days whether it would just be universally regarded as their best album.

I don't. It wouldn't.

Perhaps because you've been completely taken with the narrative that it's somehow a "weaker" entry in their catalogue. It's not.

I can't imagine how Future Days can be considered a weaker album.

Exactly.

agreed

it's the album I listen to most these (not so future) days

Perhaps because you've been completely taken with the narrative that it's somehow a "weaker" entry in their catalogue. It's not.

But it isn't, it's probably the single most celebrated album in their catalogue! I've been saying here for years that it's overrated and I think about three people have agreed with me in as many years!

It is? Over Monster Movie and Tago Mago?

I must have missed that conference.

I don't know what won the poll here, it might even have been "Ege Bamyasi", but "Future Days" tends to have the most rhapsodic bollocks written about it

Anyway Jaki might not like "Future Days" but Holger does - FITE!

Tago Mago is amazing, also Monster Movie and Soundtracks

But it isn't, it's probably the single most celebrated album in their catalogue!

Well...it probably was in the early 1990's. But Future Days is not even close to being the most celebrated in their catalogue at this point. Once Liebezeit's quote got out there, and Cope didn't even include it among the essential Can records (the single biggest oversight in Krautrocksampler), it really took a backseat to Tago Mago and Ege Bamyasi.

Tell me a bit more about that Cluster album, grimly. There's a fantastic track on the new Optimo mix which has made me want to investigate further.

future days is only their most celebrated because it makes a nice t-shirt. Tago Mago and Ege Bamyasi are by far more critically (and fan) favored. But Future Days is my fave.

Hear hear

"future days is only their most celebrated because it makes a nice t-shirt. "

truthbomb

"ege bamyasi makes a nice stew with bits of beef and carrots and that..."

has anyone read this article by Klaus D. Mueller from Perfect Sound Forever?

http://www.furious.com/perfect/krautrock.html

totally dismissive of a lot of things- what a crabby dude. but i do agree with his opinions re: julian cope/krautrocksampler, that guy does an awful lot of blathering about mediocre records

re: mueller, it seemed like pretty standard "I CAST DOWN YOUR IDOLS THUSLY!" contrarian bullshit in 1997, it still does now.

but you are all missing the point here, having to pick between different CAN albums (at least Tago Mago, Ege Bamyasi and Future Days) is like having to pick between one's children. there is such a thing as loving them just as much for different reasons. I think.

i have no problem picking tago mago. the other two are good, but neither has anything like the first two sides of tago mago. not that anyone else does either

wasn't suggesting the article was new, just surprised there was no mention of it anywhere on this thread, especially with all that cope-talk

I just read it: It doesn't seem so far from anything, really.

Imagine somebody from Germany writing a fanbook about UK punk (1976-1978), and going off to ask Vini Reilly about it.

For all that both are personal opinions, (the Cope book and the mueller article, I don't have the other books), neither states that the other should not exist.

It's like the recent thread about the 'critically reviled by musicians, but loved by the hipsters' thread. Or was that the other way around?

Wish that Crack in the Cosmic Egg book mentioned was available - been out of print for over ten years. Met one of the Freemans recently. Nice guy and great record store - Ultima Thule.

there's a half-arsed version online.

also this:
http://tmachine.chat.ru/germ/progrtop.htm

though asbjornsen is wrong about 75% of the time, that's a sort of reliability.

I've got that one! The daft Norwegian one, that is!

future days is only their most celebrated because it makes a nice t-shirt. Tago Mago and Ege Bamyasi are by far more critically (and fan) favored.

I'd much rather have a Tago Mago T-shirt.

visit the spoon records site and you can have one!

http://euros.spoonrecords.com/images/tago_t-shirt200.jpg

For anyone like me who doesn't actually have the Julian Cope book and doesn't want to shell out $200 on ebay for it, this guy put up two pdfs of every page from the book. Not perfect, but better than nothing.

I've got it, I didn't know it was worth any money!

underrated = Guru Guru's Kanguru

I don't think that was in Krautrocksampler either, and it's their best album

When Cope's book came out in the 90s, a lot of that stuff was nearly impossible to find. Since then a lot of it has been reissued domestically (seemingly all but Känguru, argh). I wonder if more of it will creep up peoples' all-time lists. 47 have made my top 1000.

http://www.fastnbulbous.com/krautrocksampler.htm

Does anyone here know much about Michael Bundt? On the basis of two tracks I found on different compilations (La Chasse Aux Microbes and The Brain of Oskar Panizza) he sounds fantastic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHIuweZBc_A

I'd like to put in a word for Ash Ra Tempel, especially the 1st 2 records. Massive.

Yeah that Michael Bundt track was the greatest find on that Soul Jazz comp, for me. Don't know much more about him than what's provided in the booklet. The album's hard to find, expensive and dubious bootlegs a plenty - good news is that it will be reissued shortly!

Oh it's already out! :)

I'm throwing a pool party and am also going to DJ. It's going to have funk and disco songs, some classic rock deep cuts and synth pop ditties. ould like to spice it up with a few tracks of the "Kraut" genre, but what would you recommend that is accessible / shorter in length - something for chill out time? Seriously.

I'm So Green or Moonshake by Can are two glaringly obvious choices.

Neu!

"Isi" (5:05) - perfect sound forever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiMQ5r5y78g

Cool in the Pool by Holger Czukay!

Kraftwerk - "Ruckzuck"
Harmonia - "Dino"

Can's 'Ege Bamyasi' lp has several great options for this.

is 8 mins too long? if not:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1Iks5VYXfI

I Want More by Can, surely?

"Caramba" by Cluster

Oh, chill out time? Anything off Zuckerzeit, it's all short and popsy

"Aspectacle" is a great funky late Can deep cut

"Isi" is just tremendous - several of their other tunes like "Neuschnee" are also mighty chill. Also if you want to go to La Dusseldorf please find the track "Lilenthal" (off La! Neu? - Blue, which is kind of the fifth La Dusseldorf album), it's really one of the most beautiful, stunning pieces Dinger has ever done

yeah, along with "isi", i was thinking of recommending "neuschnee" (4:07) and "weissensee" (6:46). the latter's especially suitable for chill out.

man cool in the pool just owns this q!

I just reposted a bunch of krautrock articles (inc ones by Simon Reynolds. Or from The Wire, Mojo ) on this thread 1970-1979 WTF - The Hard 'n' Heavy 'n' Loud + Krautrock, Arty, Noisy, Weird, Funky, Punky Shit - Albums Poll! - VOTING THREAD! Closes Mar 8th 11.59 PM UK Time - All ILXORS/LURKERS WELCOME

Links to other krautrock articles here. The articles are quite big so dont want to repost them again here.

Soul Jazz has a pair of 2CD krautrock compilations. I've never really dug deep, are they a good starting point or are there better options?

Vol. 1: http://www.souljazzrecords.co.uk/releases/?id=18676
Vol. 2: http://www.souljazzrecords.co.uk/releases/?id=31014

as far as comps go those are pretty good, definitely cover a lot of the high points/key tracks

Yeah, I got the first one and it's pretty good. A good balance of well known and less known stuff. Didn't know until now that htey put out a volume 2.

The 2nd one pretty good as well! I don't know abt only 4 min of halleluwah but its good to encounter those a.r & machines tracks outside of crackly vinyl rips.

Those Soul Jazz comps are spectacular - a perfect gateway for me.

I don't know why but it's all just clicked for me after years of dabbling in Can and Kraftwerk. I'm ready to dig deeper. I've found a scanned copy of Copey's book and Fastnbulbous's krautrock guide is very helpful. I'm still not sold on the long flutey jams but the kosmische musik is where it's at.

were there any good krautrock bands from Berlin?

Not really krautrock but Tangerine Dream were from Berlin

Agitation Free possibly?

weird that the biggest city in Germany produced so little krautrock

Well it wasn't quite so big when it was chopped in half.

it was still the biggest by population

weird that the biggest city in Germany produced so little krautrock

Never heard of the Berlin School (of Krautrock) (not a physical school, of course) - which was T. Dream, Klaus Schulze, Ashra? There's lots who were based there though whether they were actually from there I know not: Agitation Free. Kluster. Conrad Schnitzler. I'm sure there's more.

Ash Ra..forgot about them..

It's not that bad a representation, 'cos all of those artists are good, there are probably a 100 more terrible ones I can't think of right now

I mean, Hamburg is the second largest city in Germany, and what have they got? Faust... I'm struggling beyond that.

And by the way, I was in Hamburg earlier this year, and none of the people I talked to there had even heard of Faust! I'm talking musicians and people who are into music.

so which city was the krautrock capital?
i had a theory for a second it was a suburban movement..

which music are they into?
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There wasn't one, there was was no movement (xp)

I don't know, sort of indie people I suppose. Germans (I've met) don't seem that interested in German music tbh

how old are they?

it's logical if they are young

current german music isn't what it used to be.

30-40 I'd say.

maybe Faust is relatively more popular abroad than in Germany.

Lots of the well-known bands were from Dusseldorf, Cologne or Munich... Frankfurt was poorly represented though I think.

awesome stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LneduxXyt9I

I thought I'd read that you could loosely separate the genre into two camps - the Berlin School and the Dusseldorf School (with various outliers of course). Berlin = Ash Ra Tempel, Klaus Schulze, Tangerine Dream; Dusseldorf = Neu!, Kraftwerk, Can, Cluster.

Dusseldorf wind, easily

wins

Yes. Plus by default you can add Harmonia and La Dusseldorf to that camp. And Faust is an outlier. Where were ADII from? Popol Vuh? Probably they just complicate my simple binary distinction.

both from munchen

Berlin = Ash Ra Tempel, Klaus Schulze, Tangerine Dream; Dusseldorf = Neu!, Kraftwerk, Can, Cluster.

Can and Cluster have got nothing to do with Dusseldorf though. Cluster started in Berlin!

s.y.p.h. - "pst!"(1980) & "s.y.p.h."(1981) they're both available one one CD on the captain trip label. holger's on board for french horn , prod & edit duties. a sloppy, punky, minimalist step sideways from the CAN template. sounds like it was recorded yesterday & released on psf.
both moebius / beerbohm (aggro 2 note synth/ drum ambient chocolate-monk stomps)& moebius / renziehausen (toytown keyboard presets create virtual reality senile muzak weirdness) discs also essential although by no means ROCK.

Anyone looked into the 6CD boxes called "Krautrock: Music For Your Brain"? There are *5* of these boxes. Here's the first one: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=14856

No one's familiar with the boxes I mentioned?

tracklist for the first looks thrown together almost at random. can't see why one wouldn't just want to buy the original albums the songs are taken from.

I heard the first box - it's mostly German hard rock and early prog. Moving on to albums from Copey's list.

This series looks quite promising! I'm in for the first couple of volumes at least.

To provide an overview of the various musical styles in which Bureau B specializes, the label launches a new compilation series entitled Kollektion. Each release in this series will be curated by a musician perfectly suited to the task. The first kick-off release will be: Kollektion 01: Sky Records, compiled by Tim Gane. The erstwhile Stereolab mastermind delves through the archives of the legendary German Krautrock label. More projects to follow: Kollektion 02: Roedelius -- Electronic Music -- Compiled by Lloyd Cole; Kollektion 03: Bureau B -- Compiled by Richard Fearless (Death In Vegas) -- Double Album; Kollektion 04: Populare Mechanik -- Compiled by Holger Hiller. About Sky Records: The record company was founded in the year 1975 and went on to become one of the few German labels to reap international acclaim. It was run by Gunter Körber, who quit his job at Metronome where he and Bruno Wendel had spent four years developing and managing the legendary Brain label. About Tim Gane: No less a figure than Tim Gane, the man behind Stereolab, has delved into the Sky Records archives for the Kollektion series. Gane has never hidden his love of Krautrock; many a Stereolab song has its foundations in the typical "motorik" beat, while his latest band, Cavern Of Anti-Matter wallows in Klaus Dinger rhythms. Experimental sounds hold no fear for him, as early noise cassette releases under his Un-Kommuniti alias testify. His selection of tracks fits the pattern seamlessly: Asmus Tietchens, Cluster, Moebius, Roedelius, Michael Rother, Riechmann, Gunter Schickert, etc. All names writ large in the avant-garde scene of German progressive music, as well as underlining Gunter Körber's audacity in offering such music a forum with his label. In the booklet, Asmus Tietchens, who released four albums on Sky Records, looks back on collaborating with Gunter Körber.

Currently reading David Stubbs's Future Days, a great read.

Speaking of Bureau B and Sky Records, their upcoming reissue of Harald Grosskopf's Synthesist is very welcome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j0TUyukpnY

There's a new collab between Harald Grosskopf (Ashra, Klaus Schulze, a billion other bands) and sometime Kraftwerk/Neu! associate Eberhard Kranemann out now on Bureau B - the album is called Krautwerk and it seems they're touring under that name too.

Thought I'd post here as I thought I remembered reading a lot of praise for Grosskopf's "Synthesist" on ILX though I can't find where. Anyway the album isn't grabbing me that much yet but it has its moments.

They've done a few shows together already, has anyone seen them? Any good? They are playing here in Oxford on Tuesday and I would normally automatically go but the timing is inconvenient, the venue's not great, etc...

...apparently tonight's Grosskopf/Kranemann/Krautwerk gig is cancelled, btw, so I hope nobody had decided to go to it after reading my post there.

Not sure why or when it was cancelled or if it will be rescheduled. It's listed as cancelled on the Facebook event and 3 different ticket sites but there's no mention of the gig at all on the promoter's Facebook or Twitter, which is kind of weird imo. Hope everyone involved is OK.

There was a gig in Brighton which was cancelled due to poor ticket sales.

geez that's a lame reason to cancel a show

brighton show was booked at quite a sizeable/expensive venue iirc?

Soul Jazz just announced Deutsche Elektronische Musik Vol. 3 and I'm frickin' stoked!

Klauss Weiss – Wide Open Space Motion
A.R. & Machines – I'll Be Your Singer, You'll Be My Song
Deutsche Wertarbeit – Deutscher Wald
Dzyan – Khali
Missus Beastly – Geisha
Alex – Derulé
Agitation Free – In The Silence Of the Morning Sunrise
Georg Deuter – Pearls
Michael Bundt – The Brain Of Oskar Panizza
Popol Vuh – Ja, Deine Liebe Ist Sußer Als Wein
Novalis – Dronsz
Bröselmaschine – Schmetterling
Neu! – Neuschnee
Between – And The Waters Opened
La Düsseldorf – White Overalls
Klauss Weiss – Constellation
Achim Reichel – Tanz Der Vögel In Den Winden
Roedelius – Lustwandel
Pyrolator – Die Haut Der Frau
Cluster – Hollywood
Streetmark – Passage
Niagara – Rhythm Go
Michael Bundt – Neon

can’t wait for some alt-right dipshit to discover ‘white overalls’ and turn white supremacists onto krautock

A nicely diverse playlist. Guess they really must like that Klaus Weiss album?

I think this is the best Deutsche Elektronische Musik yet

Volume 4!

1. Alex – Patella Black
2. Klaus Weiss – Driving Sequences
3. Can – I'm So Green
4. Agitation Free – Laila, Part II
5. Deutsche Wertarbeit – Guten Abend, Leute
6. Amon Düül II – Wolf City
7. Michael Rother – Flammende Herzen
8. Klaus Weiss – Pink Sails
9. Virus – My Strand-Eyed Girl
10. Conrad Schnitzler – Ballet Statique
11. Kalacakra – Nearby Shiras
12. EMAK – Tanz In Den Himmel
13. Et Cetera – Mellodrama 2a
14. Between – Triumphzug Kaiser Maximilian I
15. Roedelius – Halmharfe
16. Dzyan – Dragonsong
17. Harmonia – Deluxe (Immer Wieder)
18. Günter Schickert – Suleika
19. Witthüser & Westrupp – Schöpfung (1. Mose 1)

https://soundsoftheuniverse.com/sjr/product/deutsche-elektronische-musik-4

Bear family just started a series of 2cds called Kraut! I think it might include some of the rockier stuff that Cope was trying to exclude.

There are also a number of contemporary to the non-scene bands from elsewhere like Area and Balerno di Bronzo from Italy, Nyl from France and a few other things worldwide that if you like krautrock you should also enjoy. Though that might be difficult to predict. I hear an overlap in the sound anyway.
Also US things like Larry Young's Lawrence of Newark and the much later Savage Republic Jamahiriya.
Or Simply Saucer Cyborgs Revisited and things like peak Chrome that you should also check out. But hopefully you already know that.& at least 70s Hawkwind and Eno era Roxy Music should also appeal.

Interesting that the Bear Family are moving out of their country/rockabilly comfort zone.

Looking forward to volume 4. For some reason I thought that 3 was going to be the last.

Me too, it was the "That's All Folks" text on the back.

Bear Family also has an excellent set of NDW compilations called "Aus grauer Städte Mauern - Die Neue Deutsche Welle (NDW) 1977-85"

That Et Cetera song is gorgeous

here's something I really dig about certain German records - stuff like Neu!, La Dusseldorf, Harmonia, Gottsching's E2-E4, etc. - it sounds like what I imagined the first albums ever released would have sounded like, if you asked me at the age of 6