Richard Marx - S&D

You just don't get hair like that in the charts anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPI5ecQ1YTA

Drunk on Twitter right now:
@richardmarx

highlights?

Richard Marx ‏@richardmarx
OMG it's so fun to be on Twitter when you don't have a career to worry about protecting!!!!!

Actually, nothing too crazy, he's just tweeting a lot.

and you're... right there waiting for him.

damn this thread is full of classics

He really is making Twitter work for him:

Playing in Coral Springs, Fl 2nite. I think like..eleven people are coming. Gonna do the whole show in dark glasses and play all Soundgarden

only 50 minutes from me! I may ask him to play "Pretty Noose."

would pay .99 for a richard marx cover of "the day i tried to live" tbh

now I imagine Soundgarden returning the favor and covering "Should've Known Better."

I like to think about the people (who surely existed) who heard Should've Known Better and thought "Wow, I didn't know Richard Marx could ROCK!"

Don't Mean Nothing and Should've Known Better were actually his first two singles. The ballads came later.

awww dammit

yeah Marx's early rockers weren't bad at all. "Don't Mean Nothing" actually has Joe Walsh (which makes sense: it's a "Long Run" rewrite).

and it must be pointed out:

Marx placed himself in the record books by being the first solo artist to have his first seven singles hit the Top 5 on the Billboard Hot 100 singles chart (3, 3, 2, 1, 1, 1, 4)

Not to mention his songwriting/production credits.

I really like some of the stuff he's written for Keith Urban.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dtfBxUTXRY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3pzIzlcCMs

he was pretty cool on Chelsea Peretti's podcast

This is also a Marx jam, as is that N' Sync one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6ug6PvTI-c

"Hazard" was big in England too, wasn't it?

i really dig this. it's no hazard, but it's just so goddamn catchy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmj7gX2yDUI

for being a #1 single it's fallen down the memory hole. I bought Repeat Offender thanks to this lol

nice

I've been thinking about it. I had it on cassette in high school but never re-upped. Maybe it's time.

I could be wrong, but Marx's hair was a topic of discussion even when people had ridiculous hair everywhere, right? Because that's just plain silly.

it was p impressive, even for the time

because Marx was just over four feet tall.

didn't get into a tiff with Adam Curry?

http://articles.latimes.com/1990-07-06/entertainment/ca-232_1_richard-marx

Richard Marx leaned his head over the West Hollywood restaurant table and poked his fingers into the top of his notoriously lush mane.

"You can see right here, I have no hair spray," the pop singer said. "I don't ever use hair spray. I just have thick hair, which I think (upsets) a lot of bald critics."

lol

"When I read bad reviews of me and when I read slams in the press, I don't ever read, 'He doesn't sing well' or, 'He doesn't write melodic songs,' or 'He doesn't work hard on stage or produce good records,' " he said. "I read, 'His hair's too perfect.' "

HAHA

Marx called Curry a "mousse endorsement."

Okay, so Marx has always been pretty zingy. Love this dude now.

he always seemed like a funny, chill sorta dude. i feel bad for him ;_;

I still think Marx's "Angelia" is one of the best hair-metal ballads of the 80s - it's basically just a Def Leppard ripoff. Haven't heard that song in decades but I'm sure I'd still like it today.

Didn't remember that track until the video started, but yeah...that's some post-Hysteria ish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsYK2JJNflg

named my daughter after this song

janice crawford 2 weeks ago

and married to Cynthia Rhodes for 20 years!

I was 14 when I heard that "Hitline USA" episode (which Curry hosted briefly) in which they sparred.

I dunno, seems p much straight ballad to me. I hear the Hysteria connection but I'd never go as far as hair metal.

Yeah, I guess the way the guitar sounds reminds me of Hysteria a bit. His voice kills any metal aspect. Hair Ballad.

Pretty boilerplate slow-Marxian single imo. Not one of the best of anything.

hey

It's no Hold On To The Night, c'mon!

i guess. I like the last half of Hold On To the Night but the first half takes FOREVER to build

I like Marx when he goes big, lol

I'll take "Keep Comin' Back" (with Luther on backing vox!)

YES

god I love that

"Now and Forever" is a gross sack of shit though

yeah he veers into that Bryan Adams/Everything I Do territory there, it's too much

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2006-10-08/news/0610070202_1_richard-marx-guitars-parent-teacher-conferences

I don't feel the least bit sorry for him -- he's living exactly the sort of life that shoudl be the envy of musicians: stable marriage of 20+ years, massive early success, regular royalty checks, still writing and producing hits.

He's playing a small club here in a couple of weeks, same place I'm seeing Graham Parker.

Which would you prefer, Josh -- a punked-up cover of "Should've Known Better" by Parker or Marx doing an acousti-sensitive "You Can't Be Too Strong"?

Good question! Marx is more versatile, so maybe Marx doing Parker? Then again, Parker doing Marx would be more fun. Marx clearly writes songs others like to sing.

Marx popped on stage for one of his songs when I saw Keith Urban a while back.

i worked on a show that had an episode w/marxie 10+ years ago. iirc he came across as remarkably decent. on that same show, david foster was revealed as a thoroughly reprehensible piece of shit but that's another story.

i would see richard marx play if he ever came to cali

Remember this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Wdv7sxdiE0

Plainly emulating Daryl Hall.

Peter Gabriel's So inspired the production of "Hold On to the Nights," Marx sez.

http://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100#/news/1000-no-1s-watch-richard-marx-chat-about-1005763752.story

This is the one I saw them do:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G4SaKxcb_I

Not only is Marx emaciated but his voice is intact.

He's playing here this weekend, and I probably would have gone if not for other plans. Tickets seemed pretty cheap - I guess no one cares about this dude anymore. Coincidentally just heard Angelia for the first time last month, that's pretty much how you do a ballad.

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/NewAnswersControllerServlet?boardid=41

Three different versions of the video were shot and aired on VH-1, and Marx himself appeared several times, challenging viewers to watch for all three versions, "...and see if you can figure out who killed Mary."

uh this is supposed to be the link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazard_(song)

Uh.

http://www.themorningnews.org/article/right-here-waiting

maybe this is just the Richard Marx stan in me talking but that guy just seems like 100% douche.

150% even

I was gonna say Richard should just ignore the trolls like any sensible person but this is probably going to give him the most publicity he's had in years.

nobody really comes out looking great in this thing. but i mean when has "a writer dissed me, if i CONFRONT him nobody will write bad things about me!" ever worked?

true

“A Christmas album?” he said. “At Target? You know, I was kind of ehhhh on what you said about him”—Mike lifted his palm to chin level and wobbled it back and forth—“but that is shameless.”

This is such a funny way to end this article. Though recording a Christmas album w Kenny Loggins is probably a better way to earn money than writing a story about how you insulted a guy you never met and then impressed your boozehound friends by avoiding a bar fight.

The funny thing to me is that the writer sounds like like he was kinda meek/apologetic at the bar meetup, but then like any good passive-aggressive douche goes and editorializes about all the things he WOULD have said in the blog.

it's so fucking lame

At one time, Rogers Park had been an Irish and Jewish neighborhood, but immigration and suburbanization transformed its demographics to equal thirds white, black, and Latino, with a few Middle Eastern grocers mixed in for diversity. The Lighthouse was the last redoubt of white folks too sentimental—or too broke—to leave the old neighborhood. Sitting next to the stubborn ethnics on the torn vinyl stools were broken, drunken men and women who lived in adult care facilities on Sheridan Road, the neighborhood’s main drag.

COOL STORY BRO OH WHAT YOU HAVEN'T STARTED YOUR STORY YET COOL I'LL WAIT

“What happens when two Irishmen and a Jew buy a bar?”

How about 'What happens when a dickbag and a butthurt dickbag meet up in a bar?'

just remembered in college i once e-mailed a certain chicago critic about his use of the word "ironic" and he responded "irony is in the eye of the beholder."

same dude also got called out by a lunatic celeb for word choice and released the convo, possibly more than once. Whoever can guess who i'm talking about gets to realize they've spent more than a decade caring about this shit.

not me then.

Is there anyone who cares about a dickhead blogger being a dickhead to Richard Marx in 2013?

Who is the audience for this?

dickheads

Eh, readers of The Morning News I guess. Not sure who that is generally, but they exist.

Is there anyone who cares about a dickhead blogger being a dickhead to Richard Marx in 2013?

anyone who clicks on a thread titled "richard marx - s&d"

Heh -- saw that quip coming soon as I hit submit

I thought this article was hilarious.

My favorite part:

Until I wrote that blog post, I hadn’t thought about Richard Marx in more than 20 years. Back in 1989, my friend Marty was trying to describe the roster of a celebrity softball game, but couldn’t come up with the name of one of the musicians.

“Who’s that guy who really sucks?” Marty asked.

I knew immediately. “Richard Marx?” I replied.

Marty’s face lit up. “Yeah! That’s it!”

This blogger can have his fun, but here are the facts

Marx wrote "Hazard".
This 'blogger' wrote...this.

Nuff said.

Blogger also seems like the guy who would write an entire blog lamenting today's price of milk.

Marx wrote "Hazard". This 'blogger' wrote...this.

I like this article more than I like anything I've heard in the Richard Marx catalog.

I do not like Richard Marx. "Hazard", however, is fantastic.

gtfo

xpost

LOL

sb poliopolice imo

I wouldn't care if Marx had performed only harmonized farts for 20 years, tho, that article was just a self-backslapping piece of crap regardless

Totally. But kind of funny.

I liked that article, especially how it subdivided his ballads into pre-prom, prom, and post-prom.

Where does that leave Children Of The Night

Where does that leave Children Of The Night

9 months post-prom

I like it because the guy writing the article depicts himself as a not-particularly-influential critic who makes an offhanded comment thinking nothing of it, and finds himself sucked into an a comically ominous battle with a soft rock B-lister. I think he approaches the situation half-wanting to blow off Richard Marx as some lame has-been, and so he never takes Marx seriously, just riding the wave of this bizarre experience to the point where he ends up having an uncomfortable face-to-face meeting.

“Explain to me why I’m shameless,” Richard Marx said.

Had I given it more thought, I would have written that Richard Marx was the kind of musician who wouldn’t be ashamed to record anything he thought would sell a million copies. But I didn’t want to say that to his face.

"You called me shameless in my hometown, where my family can read this.”

That was a douchey thing to say, especially since Richard Marx is married to a model and I’d woken up alone that morning. I let it pass, though. I wasn’t there to start another argument.

He took him seriously enough to meet him for a drink.

yeah .. i think thats pretty cool actually ...

Richard Marx was the kind of musician who wouldn’t be ashamed to record anything he thought would sell a million copies.

what does this even mean? As an artist I want to record a song bought only by the Edward McClelland claque?

i'm super-curious why marx is so worked up about the phrase "shamelesness," but why should a journalist be expected to explore that, or even defend his work, when he can just hem, haw, hand the offended a copy of his book about obama and write a tell-all later?

no question he gets defensive about music. Besides the Adam Curry kerfuffle, I remember reading an irate letter in his name after Entertainment Weekly made disparaging remarks about him in the mid nineties.

what does this even mean? As an artist I want to record a song bought only by the Edward McClelland claque?

It's doing what you want without concern for how it might be received vs. cynically doing exactly what you think will sell. Isn't this the classic 'sell-out' debate?

oh is that what the debate was about

the sellout argument is kinda moot if you never liked him in the first place though, surely

he's referring to the Alan Vega-Colin Newman collaboration that Marx left in the vaults because the record company wanted "Endless Summer Nights."

haha

It's not my argument that Richard Marx is a sellout. It's my argument that he sucks.

better log out before he reads you!

was thinking of starting some shit with him on twitter

omg his dad's name for real is Dick Marx?

i mean obv Richard = Dick but if that was my last name I'd probably just go by Richard like my son did

back on topic, Richard frequently plays shows at this Theatre called Plaza where all kinds of over the hill acts perform, apparently he began his last show with like a 15-min movie or something like that...

Richard Marx ✔ @richardmarx

"Risque" clothing banned at Grammys but guys who beat up women? Come ooonnn downnnnn.....#goodcallgrammys

Richard Marx = my favorite content farm

that should read 'Richard Marx's twitter = my favorite content farm'

Listened to his interview on Low Times a week or so ago and he revealed that his first (or one of his first) recorded vocal performances was the "all niiiiight" background vocal on Lionel Richie's "All Night Long". Which sucks, because now when I listen to that song it's THE ONLY THING I CAN HEAR.

Richard Marx ‏@richardmarx 28 Jul

The good news: Been asked to write/sing the love theme to "Sharknado 2." The bad news: The song has to be called "Sharknado, Too."

I love this man:

Richard Marx ‏@richardmarx 27 Jul

I think as of last night I have decided that a Belvedere martini can be considered its own food group.

Richard Marx ‏@richardmarx 12 Jul

"@paisleyoungfan It's been 25 years since I saw you!" You'll be glad to know I found some scissors along the way.

yeah, he's a treat

S- "Hazard"
D- most of the rest

>:(

what would you keep besides "Hazard," Neanderthal?

I like "Endless Summer Nights", "The Way She Loves Me", "Take This Heart", and uh...probably a few more.

"don't mean nothing", which i'd call the best fake eagles song ever except 3 of the eagles are on it so i'm not sure there's anything 'fake' about it, and of course 'hazard' are the only two i'll really rep for, there are a few others i can get more mild pleasure than mild annoyance from ("satisfied", "children of the night" a pretty big guilty pleasure, "endless summer nights" which could probably use more sax tbh). no use for "right here waiting" or "hold on to the nights".

until wikipedia had no idea he cowrote, produced, and played on this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQOmDUnt8Hs

yeah I said upthread it's a blatant copy of "The Long Run" but less obnoxious. I like the falsetto.

man for like a year and a half i've been moaning about spotify not having the eagles and how they're precisely the type of band i would never buy but would totally check out on spotify but now that they're on there i've been all 'eh, maybe i'll check out pink floyd instead'.

"The Long Run has deep cuts!"

ended up playing the hazard video for a bunch of coworkers trying to reconvince them of his brilliance and ended up back down the Richard Marx rabbit hole. I realized I never did reup the first 2 albums as intended. I think today will be the day.

i really love the sound of his voice.

ended up ended up ended up :(

I dunno about brilliance but "Hazard" is several leagues better than most of his stuff, and not exclusively because it's Serious Material.

man it's amazing what my exchange with balls wrought

I read that very wrongly

well ok maybe not brilliance but everyone just laughs at his hair and he's so good!! sigh

lol i thought that also, it's like seeing a guy in 1963 go 'i think i might join the marines'

well I didn't end up with the first 2 albums I only scored the greatest hits but a) used and b) 50% off because I am a regular shopper at that establishment so SCORE

anyway now I can listen to Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaangeliiiiiiiiiiiiiiia anytime I want

Albini interviews Fulks:

A: So, this has nothing to do with your music, but I'm gonna ask you about it. Are you familiar with—there's a short film that your lovely wife, Donna, has been asked to be in that I have also been asked to be in. Are you familiar with this?

F: Sure. I told her never in a million years to even approach you because you would be uninterested, but it sounds like there's a possibility you could do it.

A: Well, what happened is—it's a short film about a Twitter beef between a writer and a musical celebrity, let's say a slightly passe musical celebrity along the lines of a Richard Marx.

F: Like Groucho Marx but from Winnetka.

A: When I read about that original Twitter beef, my initial reaction was that the writer guy, who was all incensed about how cheap Richard Marx was—my initial reaction was that that guy was a cock and a half, and I hoped that Richard Marx punched him square in the nose. So I was curious to read the script, because I wanted to see if the script was from the perspective of Richard Marx or from the perspective of the writer. Or if it was from some external perspective.

F: Have you read the script?

A: I did read the script. And now I'm kind of creeped by it, and I kind of don't want to do it. But I feel like I'm an awkward position, because it seems like this guy has written this part for me to play me, saying things that I would never say about someone I would never say them about.

F: That's kind of why I told her that I didn't think you'd be interested in it. Because it's you playing you, right?

A: I think that's the idea. Were you aware of this Marxstroversy when it happened?

F: I guess I did read an article about it somewhere, yeah.

A: Secondarily, I'm a little freaked about it because I appeared on—there was a local taping of a podcast, the Scharpling podcast [Low Times]. It's Tom Scharpling from The Best Show. He and a couple of other people from the show have a podcast, where it's more related to music. Anyway. They taped it at the Hideout, Chicago's friendliest tavern, and they had me and Richard Marx as guests. So I actually met Richard Marx.

F: And he wasn't a cock—he was a nice guy.

A: Well, you know, he seemed like he was a little out of touch and maybe a little full of his own dump. But I find it really hard to think ill of a guy who's self-aware enough to come down to a thing where he knows he might get picked on. I thought that was, relatively speaking, big of him.

F: To want to punch a music blogger is an inherently creditable notion. (Laughter.)

he won't stop until he's satisfied!

is this really happening? now?

Richard Marx ‏@richardmarx 3m

Today is the 25th Anniversary of Repeat Offender which scored 2 #1 hits, 5 top 15 singles & sold 10M copies #teammarx pic.twitter.com/xZBl4Ae5uc

happy anniversary

http://m.chicago.curbed.com/archives/2014/11/20/soft-rocker-richard-marx-lists-palatial-lakefront-mansion-for-18m.php

On this day in '89 my song "Satisfied" topped the Billboard Hot 100. Going out 2night and celebrate its anniversary.

DONCHA KNOOWOOOH

I like the idea of Marx updating us chart geeks. "On this day in 1994, my last top ten 'Now and Forever' fell off the Hot 100!"

just married daisy fuentes!

wtf i didnt even know he & cynthia split ;_;

Ugh

Second marriage for both. For some reason this union seems like a lack of imagination on both of their parts.

i heard "endless summer nights" on a radio and god help me i liked it. i probably heard it back in the 1980s but don't remember if so.

the problem w/ the blogger discussed above is that he can't imagine a person who could make the sort of music marx makes (and continues to make) doing so in earnest. i see no reason to doubt marx's commitment to even the dreck-iest of his music.

meaning, i don't see evidence of bad faith on his part.

take celine dion -- does anyone doubt her passionate commitment to the kind of music she makes?

endless summer nights is one of my faves

also: angelia

whenever i see the name of that song i think it's a typo

Don't Mean Nothing = best Eagles rip of the '80s.

otm

Should've Known Better is fun to karaoke

http://www.avclub.com/article/soft-rock-hero-richard-marx-helps-stop-violent-att-247689

something something hazard

richard marx will save us

should have known better imo

right here waiting (with rope)

I’m THE Richard Marx who doesn’t need to defend my career, calling you out for being so far up Trump’s ass you can taste his colon. And you keep dodging the fact that you failed your viewers by being a pussy. @piersmorgan https://t.co/lnAX59MQK3

— Richard Marx (@richardmarx) January 26, 2018

lol

I keep waiting for Richard Marx's no wave EP.

saw him live last night & idk what deal he has made with the devil but his voice still sounds fkng great

Anyway it made me go back and find some of the later-period albums I hadn't heard, like Flesh & Bone & that red Avalon one that I can't remember the name of and the most recent album and they're pretty good imo! Though I will admit to a deep abiding bias, lol.

It occurred to me that his catalog would hold up well against a listening thread if enough ppl were on board.

oh that would be fun. i legit loved 'hazard' when i was 9 or 10 and when i go back to those songs now they really are quite decent and defensible.

that whole album, repeat offender, is really good - my personal fave

This dude is always a treat on Twitter. He's like the Chrissy Teigen of 90s adult contemporary dudes.

The ones your girl fucked to before she met you. https://t.co/n6whpEPXrK

— Richard Marx (@richardmarx) March 11, 2020

He was a guest recently on a podcast I listen to; he had some fairly interesting stuff to talk about, mainly his early days in the biz.

he was on Chelsea Peretti’s podcast randomly a number of years ago, and he was great - even when all of her caller/listeners had no idea who he was!

he was also on the low times podcast with tom scharpling a while back, he seems like a bro for sure

Shoulda Known Better slaps hard

Test

He's got a YouTube show where he interviews his friends over homemade cocktails and he's sharp and hilarious.