Muzik Magazine's 10 For the Future - The Records You’ll Be Calling Classics in 2009

haven't heard of half of these :(

Also Best record on Muzik's The 50 Most Influential Records of All Times

daft punk, air, and beta band, i guess? and maybe basement jaxx if you live in the u.k.

i think missy herself is considered somewhat classic.

Voted 2 Phat Cunts

sincere.

although it's pretty patchy. I don't really care for most of this list.

why would basement jaxx be just a UK thing?

2 Phat Cunts was Sasha & Brian Transeau right?

lol Da Hool

Remedy > Homework, just

the beta band.
the rest does little for me now.

the only one i havent heard is Terry Francis. any cop? tech-house wasnt he?

jaxx, daft punk, missy, air, maybe beta band are the ones id call "classics" tho probably in some irony-inflected way, dripping w/ self-loathing

WHERE HAS THE FUTURE GONE???

That's maybe a 50% strike rate, not bad.

Jaxx, Daft Punk, Air, Missy are pretty nailed-on, you could make a case for MJ Cole or the Beta Band although I'm not sure I would bother. The other four have sunk without trace.

MJ Cole – Sincere
Basement Jaxx – Remedy
Missy Elliot - Supa Dupa Fly

^^classic in every way

Air - Moon Safari

^^a fine album but tbh i don't listen to or remember half of it

Daft Punk – Homework

^^still can't get into them but i guess it's canon

Shy FX - Bambaataa

^^not my thing but it could well be classic in its genre

Da Hool - Meet Her At the Love Parade
2 Phat Cunts – Ride
Terry Francis – Architecture

^^who what where

The Beta Band - The Three E.P.s

^^this dreadful thing is assuredly not, has never been, and will never be classic, eww

what's not classic: people STILL misspelling missy's surname :(

ELLIOTT

MJ Cole – Sincere
Basement Jaxx – Remedy
Missy Elliot - Supa Dupa Fly
Daft Punk – Homework

I don't think anyone is calling the rest of these classics.

beta band ep's are classic in their field. Sadly the rest of their albums weren't up to par and the band themselves arent classic by any means.

the beta band were cool!

Bored the tits off me when I saw them live

They were a bit like a Happy Mondays tribute band

I was really disappointed with the albums after the ep's. I think Nick and Louis will rep for them though

I've never heard their records, only saw them live

well they were notoriously sloppy live. You might like the ep's a lot more.

3 eps are on spotify if you wanna give it a listen, tom.
http://open.spotify.com/album/5GBPnIYc6qMXwp6n1cW5TT

I'll pass.

actually, i never really listened to the last two albums much at all. i liked the EPs and the first album. and i admit to being totally icked out by that scene in high fidelity when john cusack throw them on in the record store.

I voted Daft Punk anyway. I'll still rep for that Air album though.

did clinic follow the same career path as beta band? highly rated EPs, much anticipated first album, less clamor for what came after. funny masks.

that air album is a pot smoker's delight. daft punk must be lashed for any crud like justice that they may have inspired.

is it meant to be 'Sincere' the single (v classic) or the patchy (not classic) album?

I thought you usually didn't like to blame bands for what they influenced?
xp

Missy's the standout here, and that one isn't even close to her best album. Couldn't care less about at least half of these, never listened to the Beta Band for more than like half an hour, and Air's "Virgin Suicides" soundtrack is preferable to Moon Safari.

"I thought you usually didn't like to blame bands for what they influenced?"

just kidding. i like daft punk a bunch. i do have a healthy fear of an ed banger planet though.

god i tried listening to that beta band album again the other day, after years and years, and i just couldn't take it anymore.

supa dupa fly and moon safari are classic but homework is megaclassic

Remedy's the only stone-cold classic on here, though Homework and Moon Safari are probably more canon to the dreaded Youth of Today, who listen to them in dorm rooms along with Marley et al.

Supa Dupa loses out by dint of other Elliott, and while I still like Beta Band showing up on shuffle, those three eps are more a pleasant detour than undeniable works of genius or anything.

bjaxx seem oddly out of place in the current landscape - certainly they haven't been as obviously ~influential~ as daft punk or air. which is somewhat surprising to me.

my favourite missy is da real world but supa dupa fly comes in at an easy 2nd place, which still beats out...almost everything else ever.

OH while we're here! does anyone have an mp3 of the 'hit em wit da hee' rmx which sampled björk? i lost my mp3 years ago and it doesn't seem to be available to buy or steal anywhere any more.

MJ Cole – Sincere
Basement Jaxx – Remedy
Missy Elliot - Supa Dupa Fly
Daft Punk – Homework

I don't think anyone is calling the rest of these classics.

Tons of people are calling Moon Safari classic (I'm one of them).

i think BJaxx are just harder to imitate and harder to pin down aesthetically

No option for none?

"Tons of people are calling Moon Safari classic (I'm one of them)."

My mistake then. I'm certainly not calling it a classic.

i would say that Shy FX is a pretty classic DnB tune from that era, not sure that people are really sweating that period of time yet but i'm sure it will come back.

Half of these were already hailed as classics on release. The interesting question which records are deeply unfashionable now but will be cult/revived later, like Italo disco today.

yeah exactly they're pretty safe bets aren't they. any record that gets a bunch of 5 star reviews is going to be hailed as a classic.

jaxx, daft punk, missy, air, maybe beta band are the ones id call "classics" tho probably in some irony-inflected way, dripping w/ self-loathing

― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max)

i like daft punk a bunch. i do have a healthy fear of an ed banger planet though.

― scott seward

Holy moses, I am so sick and tired of people saying 3 EP's was Beta Band's best effort. Basement Jaxx is the only thing I'd consider classic here, though I haven't heard it in years.

I guess "Homewark" and "Moon Safari" are the closest (and maybe "Remedy"), but I think Muzik generally missed this. Other than "Supa Dupa Fly", the others haven't really made much of a mark at all.

4 easy choices, 1 good call (Remedy), 5 longshots that nobody remembers.

and they missed Boards of Canada. (what if board was spelled b-o-r-e-d)

terry francis' architecture is a perfectly fine mix but hardly the classic muzik were proclaiming it would be now. a lot of it was pitched up deep house from the period - i.e. before producers started making specifically 'tech-house' tracks. love his 1998 bbc essential mix though.

That kind of deep-house/tech-house divide seemed like a bigger thing in 1999 than it turned out to be, I feel. Minimal kinda cast that whole scene in the shadow. Would sound pretty current now though I reckon.

Sincere the album has about 5 great tracks (the intro, "Sincere", "Attitude", "Crazy Love", "Slum King", and maybe "Bandalero Desperado" or whatever it's called).

Basement Jaxx's first album does too sound influential if you listen to... um UK funky and Lady Sovereign I guess (in fact the two neatly split BJ's sound into opposite halves). Rooty was probably more influential insofar as it presaged a whole lotta subsequent electro-house.

Love the Missy album but agree that Da Real World should be the pick. As I recall Muzik had a special feature that year where people discussed potential albums of the year and several people (including Sasha!) said that they loved Missy but that Da Real World had been a bit of a let-down. Remedy won that informal poll, I think. Layo & Bushwacka and The Madhatt Courtship were also contenders if I remember correctly.

jaxx, daft punk, missy, air, maybe beta band are the ones id call "classics" tho probably in some irony-inflected way, dripping w/ self-loathing

I don't think the Beta Band have any real relevance to people who weren't around at the time, which isn't really the case with Missy/Daft Punk/Jaxx and possibly Air as well.

That may change, but for the time being... nah.

i've never met anyone irl who listens to Basement Jaxx.

thread topic is what 'yall' will be calling 'classic', not people who weren't around. i can't speak for them, but surely after all these years of timbaland and daft punk being big deals, younger listeners may be after something else.

not the beta band, i grant you.

i've never met anyone irl who listens to Basement Jaxx.

lol ok. in england they were pretty huge till about five years ago.

you would hear bjaxx songs in clubs in Glsagow a bunch, as you say, about five years ago, but they seem totally like a thing of the past now.

they use 'em on tv a lot. 'do your thing' is a real makeover/reality show staple iirc.

Yeah, what happened, suddenly, to the Bjaxx's?

Their greatest hits sold an absolute truckload around 2005 and 2006 and they headlined Glasto at the time. Their last album was rubbish though.

i think they'd probably still have a good deal of pulling power live but their recorded output has diminished (naturally, as is the way w/all dance acts) and no act has really picked up the baton like justice et al did when daft punk passed their peak. i mean, the jaxx influence is definitely present in uk funky, but the lineage isn't as direct as as dp/justice, and uk funky seems unable to gain any traction as a mainstream sound.

I've been wondering how much funky influence there'll be in the next Jaxx album actually - you'd think it'd be a very natural fit but my guess is they'll actually ignore it completely.

Their last album was rubbish though

only 'for them'

presumably a new one this Summer/Autumn

did clinic follow the same career path as beta band? highly rated EPs, much anticipated first album, less clamor for what came after. funny masks.

― scott seward, Tuesday, 21 April 2009 17:05 (Yesterday) Bookmark

They're still going, still putting out decent albums, but they definitely suffered diminishing returns. They were never cast in the "saviours of British experimental rock" mould that burdened that burdened the Beta Band though.

burdened, burdened, burdened

Rawhide.

i've never met anyone irl who listens to Basement Jaxx.

it's so true!

Did you have any friends in the UK at the start of the decade?

I mean, from Red Alert right through to Where's Your Head At? or thereabouts they were pretty much bang in the middle of the mainstream. It's a bit like saying you've never met anyone IRL who listened to Craig David.

Herman lives in a remote Highland cave to be fair

bjaxx are one of the very few acts that pretty much everyone i know listens to (or did when they were good)

One interesting thing here is that the ones that have actually survived are the ones that were huge at the time, whereas the more obscure ones are nowhere to be seen today either. Of course maybe 10 years is too short a time?

they never had a number 1 album of single iirc. I do know people who listened to Craig David.

or

Yeah bjaxx were mad popular, top 10 singles plus music journo cred as well!

There might be a north/south divide here, I dunno.

Remedy was a #2 album (wow i forgot this)

there's been positive consensus about bjaxx in every social group i've ever been a part of since they emerged

19 Basement Jaxx Fly Life Single May 1997 Notes
5 Basement Jaxx Red Alert Single May 1999 Notes
2 Basement Jaxx Remedy Album May 1999
4 Basement Jaxx Rendez-Vu Single Aug 1999
12 Basement Jaxx Jump N' Shout Single Nov 1999
13 Basement Jaxx Bingo Bango Single Apr 2000
6 Basement Jaxx Romeo Single Jun 2001
5 Basement Jaxx Rooty Album Jul 2001
23 Basement Jaxx Jus 1 Kiss Single Oct 2001
9 Basement Jaxx Where's Your Head At? Single Dec 2001
22 Basement Jaxx Get Me Off Single Jun 2002
17 Basement Jaxx Kish Kash Album Nov 2003 Notes
23 Basement Jaxx featuring Dizzee Rascal Lucky Star Single Nov 2003
12 Basement Jaxx featuring Lisa Kekaula Good Luck Single Jan 2004
31 Basement Jaxx Kish Kash (re-entry) Album Jan 2004 Notes
22 Basement Jaxx featuring J C Chasez Plug It In Single Apr 2004
14 Basement Jaxx featuring Lisa Kekaula Good Luck (re-issue) Single Jul 2004
8 Basement Jaxx Oh My Gosh Single Mar 2005
1 Basement Jaxx The Singles Album Apr 2005 Notes
26 Basement Jaxx featuring Lisa Kekaula U Don't Know Me Single Jun 2005
37 Basement Jaxx The Singles (re-entry) Album Aug 2005 Notes
36 Basement Jaxx The Singles (re-entry) Album Sep 2005 Notes
32 Basement Jaxx Do Your Thing Single Oct 2005
18 Basement Jaxx The Singles (re-entry) Album Jan 2006 Notes
27 Basement Jaxx Hush Boy Single Sep 2006
16 Basement Jaxx Crazy Itch Radio Album Sep 2006 Notes

I can see a number one album there.

that's the greatest hits!

i know plenty of people who liked chemical brothers/leftfield/orbital/underworld/fatboy slim/daft punk/gabber/cheesey hardcore/hard house or whatever rave stuff gets called now/drum n bass but noone who likes(or admits to at least) basement jaxx. but its not like im claiming to know everyone. Jim lives just a few miles away from me, so maybe they just didnt appeal to lanarkshire neds or something ;)
One of my mates wee brothers has been dj'ing for 10 years and none of his pals liked them either.
Im sure though they did sell well here, its just i dont actually know anyone who likes them.

i'm not trying to argue they weren't huge, my point was really that they are one of the those acts, and there's a few i hear mentioned on ilm, that literally everyone i know irl thinks is risible but are huge here. like if i was to mention basement jaxx to one of my friends who is in to dance music they would sing "where's your head at" at me in a joey deacon voice in response.

must be a local thing for us, jim

I bet loads here bought that Da Hool single, but I wonder how many would admit to it now.

they would sing "where's your head at" at me in a joey deacon voice

wd buy this remix

by "here" i mean "where i live" not "ilm"

NV your dodgy playground past has just never left you!

And they are headlining some concert in Hyde Park or something, aren't they?

I think they've become the dance Oasis or something, where they are hugely popular live, but nobody buys their new records.

I genuinely don't believe you haven't met anyone who likes Basement Jaxx. My MUM likes Basement Jaxx! (although xpost that doesn't undermine yr argument now you state it)

Basement Jaxx I think were considered risible by a certain type of dance fan around 1999 because they had more than a whiff of the plastic high street pub DJ about them and most of the others didn't, except Fatboy Slim who was a massive pop phenomenon and something of a special case.

'where's your head at' is my least favourite bjaxx single and i would agree that it's risible. i'm surprised to discover this weird subculture where they're not loved though! i think it's cuz they're too summery and sunny and ~carnival vibez~ for scotland

Specifically, my mum likes Camberskank, off that free 3" CD that came with something. She's cool (but obviously not to Glaswegians).

clearly i dont know enough people. and anyway i've totally fallen away from dance music in the past 5 years, and i suspect a lot of people i know have done the same.
I bet basement jaxx have played the SECC so there must be plenty who like them.

i think it's cuz they're too summery and sunny and ~carnival vibez~ for scotland

Also because the Scots are known for their abstention and lack of partying.

basement jaxx have fallen away from dance music in the past 5 years too, don't worry

yeah bjaxx surely huge here, i know they've played t in the park probably secc too. I just don't know anyone who buys the records/goes to the gigs. I'm sure i know someone who enjoys hearing them on the radio, just no-one who is a big fan.

and jim will tell you, in our part of scotland you can tell what's huge by what's blasting out of car stereos*, and i cant say ive ever heard basement jaxx in that way. It's usually old skool hardcore or trance. House was always for girls to dance around their handbags in a disco round here apparently.

*bit like the lex's kids on the bus.

i know a few people who love a load of Dance stuff but not Jaxx (inc. ILM's own Siegbran and Jaunty Alan). in my experience the people who don't like them do not tend to be big fans of "authentic" US House in general (not that Jaxx sounded like that by the time they became actual star act but it's a huge part of their roots and I suppose that showed).

OR they are such puritanical fans of US House that Jaxx are not authentic enough/too diluted with other influences/Euro/popness

on that note i heard oasis blaring out a car radio while i was walking up from the town today

i just always found basement jaxx annoying. didnt mind where's your head at, but i just dont like them generally.

Lex, you're crazee. Where's Your Head At is great.

Also, did you know that the backing vocals are Erick Morillo and Junior Sanchez? I always thought that was cool.

I bet loads here bought that Da Hool single, but I wonder how many would admit to it now.

I did, it's nothing to be ashamed of. I'm in Scotland too, and although I can see them being even more popular in England, Basement Jaxx were unavoidable up North.

im sure they were. I just wonder why noone admits to liking them round our way.

Da Hool > Darude

i know more people who admitted they liked M People

blueski check your webmail

i like daft punk a bunch. i do have a healthy fear of an ed banger planet though.
― scott seward

haha I'm surprised by this actually--surely the Foghat fan (or whatever '70s bands you like that occupy the same basic place) in you can hear the parallels

oh duh--Grand Funk! much better example.

the simian justice disco stuff is SO grating to me though. hurts my teeth. i'd much rather listen to really intense techno or mindnumbing detroitbooty stuff if i want to rock or get my rocks off. or trance even! i wasn't a big big beat fan either. and that supposedly appealed to the rocker in me. aside from some chem bros and fatboy singles. some of that was cool. what's weird is i was a huge fan of big beats/samples/guitar solos in dance in the 80's. i just don't like a lot of the french noize. or edits. or mashups. my big discovery via ilx was all the kompakt stuff and THAT stuff definitely appealed to the prog rock fan in me. or krautrock fan.

oh but i do like some of the dfa/lcd stuff. and that is rocker dance, no? mostly i fell in love with the yeah single. that thing was just undeniable.

i do have a healthy fear of an ed banger planet though.

surely the Foghat fan (or whatever '70s bands you like that occupy the same basic place) in you can hear the parallels...oh duh--Grand Funk! much better example

I can't hear parallels with Foghat or Grand Funk at all. Gary Glitter maybe? (I mean, I like some of the Ed Banger stuff I've heard okay -- reviewed a Boyz Noise CD more positively than I should have for Blender, and I even like the new Mr. Oizo album okay -- but none of it comes close to living up to the hard rock claims people make for it. Though I am flattered some people think it was all my idea):

Chuck Eddy: The Spiritual Godfather of Ed Banger Records?

Anyway, I don't even know what half of the albums on the list at the top of this thread are, but I guess I'll vote for Basement Jaxx. I like Missy and Daft Punk, too. (At least two of the three peaked with their debut LPs, to my ears. Sometimes I think all three.) Kinda liked the Air album at the time, too.

i like the last mr.oizo album - i haven't heard the new one - more than anything on this thread/poll! i was just playing it last week. analog worms attack. that album is inspired and i would love to know about more stuff similar/as good.

what happened to basement jaxx anyway? they still going?

Also, did you know that the backing vocals are Erick Morillo and Junior Sanchez? I always thought that was cool.

better deal than Sam Sparro, when I saw them last month

They released an EP over here a few months back to coincide with a tour. It was not bad.

32 Basement Jaxx Do Your Thing Single Oct 2005

itunes changed everything: but what made this 'happen'?

it was re-released with a new video off the back of the greatest hits

Plus it sounds like a very good version of the kind of house track that has usually charted very well at any point in the past decade.

matos, please to stop frontin'.

Do Your Thing was used on a car ad that Summer, main reason for it's release

They re-recorded Do Your Thing for the Best Of IIRC.

The new Basement Jaxx single is floating around the blogs right now. Haven't heard it myself yet which kind of implies how their stock has fallen with me as I loved Remedy when it came out

it's really bad! bumped an old Jaxx thread last night

it's bound to be huge then!

no idea what "frontin'" I'm doing, so I'll take it to exist in Ioannis's head.

Chuck: yeah, Glitter is a much better analogy actually.

I don't think the Beta Band have any real relevance to people who weren't around at the time

― Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 12:23 (2 days ago) Bookmark

hello! have you met me? oh, you have.

Of the four I've heard (Jaxx, Missy, Air, Daft), all four have albums I like better. Voted Homework on the basis of playing it a lot lately.

im not sure you count,louis.

Foghat rocks, dude!

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