This is the thread where we talk about great Beach Boys+BW unreleased/demo/semi-released songs

Okay obv there's no shortage of BB/BW threads, but to the best of my knowledge / search results, there's not really a thread dedicated to the hundreds of unreleased/demo songs that are floating around, 95% of which are awful, 5% of which are pretty amazing.

There's this thread: Greatest Unhearlded Beach Boys Song - which is sorta similar but not what I'm going for.

Anyway, there are a lot of gems to dig up and I look forward to someone out-geeking me w/ rarer and better songs.

Personal favs:

'Still I Dream of It'

Adult/Child track, it's on the Good Vibrations box set. Just a fantastic ballad - w/ better singing and production this could have been a pop standard. There's an (apparently false) rumor that he offered this to Sinatra; you can sorta see how that rumor would start.

'Can't Wait Too Long'

Included as a bonus track on one one of the two-for-one CDs, I forgot which. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say this is as good as Good Vibrations / any other BB experimental pop song. Also, pretty much the best Stereolab song ever.

'Sherry, She Needs Me'

Was 'Sandy' in his 60s version, then 'Sherry' in this 70s take, and then 'She Says That She Needs Me' in a boring 90s solo-album version. In a parallel universe, this woulda been another 60s 'Endless Summer'-type hit.

'Santa Ana Winds'

Turned into goop when they rerecorded this for Keepin' the Summer Alive. The chorus in this 70s demo version is just massssssive.

'Big Sur' (alternate take)

IMO the only reason to care about the Landlocked bootlegs.

'Stevie'

Saint Etienne do a great cover of this for the BW tribute album. I don't think this has been released anywhere else.

'You're Still a Mystery' (Andy Paley Sessions)

My favorite Paley sessions song...apparently the BB do the backing vocals?

'This Could Be the Night'

Great Harry Nilsson cover.

On the GV box set, one of Dennis Wilson's better songs imo

From the Endless Summer SDTK

Soulful Old Man Sunshine

er, Endless Harmony sdtk...

sooo don't care if I'm the only person on this thread

This song was supposed to be one of the best things they had in the can -- and it sounds pretty good, but this version doesn't really dot it justice, I don't think.

Great, kind of creepy in a "I'm predicting my own death" kind of way Dennis song.

hah I had never thought about that song like that

WTF that drumbeat?

whoah never heard of some of this stuff. amazing how much there is, really. Where/when are Santa Ana Winds, California Feeling, I'm Going Your Way, Stevie, and This Could Be the Night from....? (I love love love the Modern Folk Quartet's version of the latter)

ridiculously in-depth resources: http://www.banana-and-louie.org/unreleased.html
http://www.btinternet.com/~bellagio/unreleased.html

This Could Be the Night = BW solo, Harry Nilsson tribute album

Santa Ana Winds Circa 1978-1980
A version exists on bootlegs with totally different lyrics and a more "raw" production.

Stevie July 1980
Written and sung by Brian, produced by Dennis. Allegedly from the "cocaine" sessions. Heavily bootlegged.

I'm Going Your Way Early 1969

California Feeling:

"Now, for the longest time, it was accepted that the band recorded the seasonal set first and when that was (rightly) rejected, they reworked some of the tracks into another album, California Feeling (which evolved into M.I.U. Album), but research into the sessions held at MIU reveals that songs from both albums were recorded in tandem, often at the same session, and that the California Feeling album was assembled at the end of 1997 back in Los Angeles. Confusing, to say the least."

(copied and pasted that stuff)

Bonanza Theme 1981 Allegedly from the "cocaine" sessions with Brian and Dennis.

oh man

Battle Hymn Of The Republic - November 5, 1974 - Mike Love on lead vocals
yessssss

so where can i hear this "Country Love" album ...?

http://warnakeysbeachboysblog.blogspot.com/2008/02/1978-was-very-very-weird-time-for-beach.html

the alt links still work

haha, thanks! now i have to decide if i REALLY need to hear that shit. "It's like Mike Love is trying to rape my family and kill my God with one album." i mean, that sounds like a pretty heavy experience.

anyone ever heard the Celebration stuff...?

Warnakey's professed hatred of country music is a little wtf

18. Everything I Touch Turns To Tears

lolz you don't say

Okay, the first track "First Love" is already busting out with the Chuck Mangione-trumpet solo

I've heard the Celebration stuff, let me look through my very messy bootleg collection to see if I still have it. A few years ago it was pretty hard to find some of this stuff online, but w/ all the mp3 blogs today, if it exists, you can find it.

"Too Cruel" opens with the "starlight/starbright/I wish I may I wish I might" rhyme, then transitions to a shitty disco groove with some really awful thin-sounding synths.

you realize that you are making it sound sorta awesome right?

"You're Looking Better" is not so bad, sounds like something off of Carl's solo albums - poor use of (presumably black?) female backing vocals, really thin production. Kinda lacking a hook though.

yeah, definitely d/ling this when i get home ... "Everything I Touch Turns To Tears"? "Beth On The Mesa"? Hell yes for song titles alone.

"Little Darlin" = inexplicable lyrics about outer space/alien love (I think?), with appropriately space-age synths, perhaps marred by fairly unnecessary Neil Schon-like guitar solo

you realize that you are making it sound sorta awesome right?

LOL, agreed.

ohhh terribly limpid blues rocker "I Don't Wanna Know" is next, kinda in the vein of Clapton's "After Midnight". I can hear the guitarist grimacing through his solo.

http://rapidshare.com/files/217228926/BB_-_Journals.part04.rar

celebration stuff on there

thanks! If I survive through these other two I'll give that a listen

I've always wanted to hear Mike's Looking Back With Love album (were they ALL plays on his last name, btw?) -- not b/c it's supposed to be any good, but b/c Curt Boettcher produced it.

"Brian's Back"

teenage gambler
sittin in a rambler
listening to the radio
and then standing in the grandstands
following the gameplan
watching life's plays unfold
fell in love with a pretty cheerleader
I even married one
And we once rode a cab out of Salt Lake City now
comin up was fun, fun, fun

They say that Brian's back
Well I've known him for so long
They say Brian's back
Well I never knew that he was gone
Still they say Brian's back
I know he's had his ups and downs
They say Brian is back
But in my heart he's always been around

I still remember
Him sounding sweet and tender
Sittin on grandma's lap
And those harmony highs
could bring tears to my eyes
guess I'm just a little sap [?]
Good vibrations caused such a sensation
Not to mention old Pet Sounds
And we travelled the world
As the banners unfurled
I guess you'd have to say we got around

(chorus repeats)

They say that Brian is back...

Definitely hear the hand of Carl in this - actually quite pretty, and the vocal arrangement is more Beach Boys-y and less disco-fied. Production's still a little schlocky but more restrained than the other stuff. And that's gotta be him on the choruses and doing the wordless quote from "You Still Believe in Me" at the end.

omg "Viggie" opens with "Stairway to Heaven"-style panflute melody. wtf kind of name for a girl is Viggie anyway? this is really painful.

my fav from the paley sessions: 'you're still a mystery'
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O2VEMIPF

"The Right Kind of Love" is a mess - starts out as a ballad, then goes into some kind of third-rate dixieland breakdown (complete with clarinet) - and again with the female backup singers. oh here comes the saxophone (I wonder if that is actually Mike Love playing, probably not...)

he shoulda done an album called "Love & Sax"

skipping Sumahama, familiar with that one.... Daybreak sounds like another Carl collaboration, arrangement is pretty weird on this - starts with just the bass and some swirling strings, then adds some quiet marimba and pedal steel guitar and a repeated refrain. This is some pretty good yacht rock actually.

ooh once more scarred by the sax solo

realllly wasn't gonna listen to the mike love albums, but I guess I have to now

I take it back, Daybreak is pretty much terrible by the end. Not really sure if Carl is on it, hard to tell.

"Tricia" is a pretty good little rocker (saved the best for last, I guess). Definitely hear Carl on this, has a nice little driving beat and hook. Weird slide guitar solo.

... and now, on to the country album...

I like 'you're looking better'

"Today I Started Loving You" cover sounds like any other countrypolitan 70s production but Mike's flat vocal delivery doesn't really do the song any favors.

"Dallas" is about how rockers should stay away and he'll never play there again (even though now he "lives in a palace/and drinks from a chalice"...? lolz now picturing Mike Love pimp cup)

this isn't nearly as bad as I imagined it would be.

yeah a lot of it isn't awful per se, its just kinda lifeless

'wrinkles' = lollllllllll

llllllllllllll

lolz "Beth on the Mesa" lyrics about preserving trees

omg yeah Wrinkles is like some Jeanie Teasdale shit

I am listening to it on repeat nonetheless

seriously rofling at the digital drumpad hits in "Brand New Start"

These lyrics really need to be typed up:

She once had a doggie named Wrinkles
Who went with her pigtails and freckles.
Just like a tisket and a tasket
He came one Christmas in a basket

He'd jump on her lap and would kiss her
When she'd go away he would miss her
He used to tag along beside her
A furry flop haired easy rider

Wrinkles , I'll see you on the other side
I couldn't believe it when they said you'd died
I couldn't keep myself from crying
I even almost felt like dying

Wrinkles, I know I'll get to see you again
I don't know exactly where or how or when
Such a good dog, I'm believing
You're happy up in doggy heaven

Wrinkles, though you're gone away
I feel sure that we will play some day
Just like in the good ole days
Just you and me (togetherrrrrr)

this whole album is WAY more wtf than the other one (and not really all that "country" either...?)

odd marijuana reference in "baby I'm a Changed Man"

I think the only song off this I am gonna ever listen to again is 'wrinkles'

More Brian Wilson:

'Black Widow' - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QJZQA2ZR

I only searched out this'un cause this guy http://www.earcandymag.com/rrcase-jazzwilson.htm hyped it up. It's actually pretty interesting.

More Paley sessions:

Soul Searchin' - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CLS0SP5K

Re-worked for one of his last solo albums, this version is better. Great song.

I wonder if that's the Andy Paley-sung version of "Soul Searchin'." It could be Carl. But it sure as hell isn't Brian.

I thought it was carl, I didn't even know there was an andy paley version?

The opening track of First Love sounds like "Black Cow" by Steely Dan without the irony.

Oh and thank god: http://www.addmoremusic.net/blog/2009/01/looking-back-with-love-mike-lo.html

http://www.addmoremusic.net/blog/img/3812392131850117704847960544312033d1.jpg

haha, Mike LOLve
in other news: http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2009/05/unreleasedish_beach_boys_song.html

whoah

was looking for a copy of Landlocked and found this - Cocaine Sessions is pretty out there

yeah imo cocaine sessions is interesting only as historical document, but as far as whoa-wilsons-are-crazy-documents go, it's up there

sweeet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcMptujdlb4&feature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogqae2wnVrs&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPJ2TjPHkgw

really amazing how much of this stuff there is. I guess we'll have to wait til they're all dead (esp. Mike Love) to see most of it get an official release

big fan of that one

is that version different from the one on the box set? cuz it seems better to me somehow

I don't believe so?

yeah afaik there's only one version

also wikipedia says

'The song was written in 1970 as a veiled comment on the alleged suppression of the NY Times by the US government. Originally intended for the 1971 Surf's Up album, it was pulled by Dennis after an argument with brother Carl over sequencing the album.'

my alternate reality version of Surf's Up:

Long Promised Road
Feel Flows
A Day in the Life of a Tree
Til I Die
Surf's Up
Big Sur (alt version)
4th of July
Lady
Loop de Loop

does anyone have any recommendations on where I can get MP3s for some of the stuff on this thread...? a lot of the BB blogs out there seem to focus on, like, instrumental/alternate mixes of their 60s material, when mostly I'm interested in unreleased stuff from the late 60s on ...

http://linear-zap-music.blogspot.com/

this dude has a lot, there are some similar blogs out there

I found a lot of stuff off soulseek some years ago, my bb mp3 collection is pretty messy though. if you know what you're looking for you can find it on some mp3 blog or on soulseek. looking for anything in particular?

http://beachboysboots.blogspot.com/

some of the dl links are dead here, some aren't

looking for anything in particular?

I'm not really sure - primarily I'm just curious about 70s outtakes, stuff that was left off albums for whatever reason. I already have Landlocked (which is great) and the Brian Wilson "Adult Child" stuff - but judging from these youtube clips and various blogs there's more out there. I just dunno if it's ever been collected under one title or if there's just bits here and there or what. I do not, for example, have a decent MP3 of 4th of July (which appears to have only been released on the BB's box set? I ain't dl'ing that whole thing just for one song)

there def isn't one title, just a ton of random amateur collections of 20 songs. see: http://bwfan0.tripod.com/id3.html - super frustrating.

4th of july is pretty easily soulseekable...can just get the album track from someone who has the box set. (I'd send it to you but I don't have it on this computer...)

http://www.btinternet.com/~bellagio/unreleased.html

I linked this upthread, but it's imo the best source of info on that era of beach boys unreleased material. if something there looks interesting, look for a bootleg (or ask me) that has it. but just downloading a random one (even 'landlocked' - which as that page explains, doesn't really mean anything) is probably just gonna result in a bunch of unassorted songs. I wish somebody had streamlined this by now.

yeah, I mean I have a bunch of this stuff but its all so disorganized and quality varies highly...

There's a torrent file out there with a huge amount of unreleased/alternative Beach Boys files, and with utorrent or whatever you can pick whatever individual files you want to download. But, yeah, there's no organization really.

yeahhh that's the way it is

I mean the bbs have a really complex history (and one that nobody seems to agree on) and who knows how some of this bootleg material ever saw the day of light (and how much hasn't)... so a streamlined collection w/ all of the songs is sorta unrealistic. but yeah, one day?

hmm, would be interested in that torrent myself

v curious about the Fred Vail country album and Dennis "Poops/Hubba-Bubba" entries

x-posts

pretty sure those have not yet surfaced shakey :(

xxpost I can't remember exactly where it was but I'll check later and let you know.

can someone, maybe you shakey, upload a bunch of songs to divshare or something? divshare can hold a 200mb zip file

I don't really have that much, would kinda defer to iatee here who sounds like he has the deeper collection - I have Landlocked (which is easy to find) and a few other random things. honestly kinda annoyed that I lost some of the stuff I used to have like Lei'd in Hawaii and the studio version of We Got Love...

but yeah I'm happy to upload whatever/wherever...unfamiliar with divshare tho

duders it's all about the SIXTEEN VOLUMES of "journals."

you know what song i like? that dennis wilson single with the captain from captain and tenille. the one with the primitive drum machine sound. "lady."

a search for journals brought up this crazy list of bb bootlegs:
http://www.surfermoon.com/boots.shtml

lorax, I'll put together some sort of mix tonight

otm about lady

fwiw the handful of tracks I am really missing right now are:

- 4th of July
- We Got Love + Out in the Country (Holland outtakes, I think?)
- With a Little Help From my Friends (from Lei'd in Hawaii...?)
- I'm Going Your Way
- Stevie

oh Looking Down the Coast too!

ya I got all of those except 'out in the country'...will put them on the comp

its on Dumb Angel Vol 3, apparently...?

in case anybody needs it, i've got "adult child" up over yonder: http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/308993348/surfs-up-for-our-last-lost-album-well-go-back
it's scary!

xp

don't think I've heard the song, gonna try and find it tho

the big band/jazz arrangements pervading Adult Child are really inexplicable

I mean really its not a style that plays to any of Brian's (or the other Boys') strengths, in a career full of left turns this one always stands out to me as the most wrong-headed.

found out in the country...remember hearing this back in the day. it's pretty good!

you're adorable, iatee. will you marry me?

yeah the Chapin/Fataar-era and material is underrated I think. The Flame album that Carl produced is fucking fantastic (maybe I will post it)

for example:

http://beatpatrol.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-flame-see-the-light-1970/

heavy, heavy McCartney influence, can totally see why Carl was into them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84HYDHX9QLU

^^^
anyone have a complete version of this?

oops, it's them covering rock & roll woman

the lolz never stop with Mike Love...

(erm but no I've never heard/heard of that cover before)

I love The Flame

I found out about them when I was trying to figure out who sang lead on "Sail On Sailor" and I was like. wait, Blondie who? WTF?

thanks ahead of time for making a rarity mix iatee

iatee where have you been all my life, dear

poptart22 = my gf, trying to get me to get off ilx

this is what I have so far:

1. Beach Boys - Can't Wait Too Long
2. Beach Boys - Til I Die (Extended)
3. Beach Boys - Soulful Old Man Sunshine
4. Beach Boys - Santa Ana Winds
5. Beach Boys - You're Still A Mystery
6. Beach Boys - Sherry She Needs Me
7. Beach Boys - Big Sur (alt)
8. Beach Boys - Still I Dream Of It
9. Beach Boys - Stevie
10. Beach Boys - Old Man River
11. Beach Boys - Black Widow
12. Beach Boys - 4th of July
13. Beach Boys - Holy, Holy
14. Beach Boys - Carry Me Home
15. Beach Boys - You Are So Beautiful To Me (Live)
16. Beach Boys - Soul Searchin
17. Beach Boys - This Is Love (Piano Demo)
18. Beach Boys - Almost Summer (Demo)
19. Beach Boys - A Time To Live In Dreams
20. Beach Boys - Lonely Days
21. Beach Boys - It's Not Easy Being Me
22. Beach Boys - Land Ahoy (Outtake)
23. Beach Boys - Guess I'm Dumb (Instrumental)
24. Beach Boys - California Feeling
25. Beach Boys - Out in the Country
26. Beach Boys - I'm Going Your Way (AKA California Slide)
27. Beach Boys - Hard Time
28. Beach Boys - This Could Be The Night
29. Beach Boys - I'm Going Your Way
30. Beach Boys - I'm Beggin' You Please
31. Beach Boys - We Got Love
32. Beach Boys - Our Team
33. Beach Boys - With a Little Help From My Friends
34. Beach Boys - You've Lost That Loving Feeling
35. Beach Boys - I Was Made To Love Her (Extended)
36. Beach Boys - Back Home (1963 Version)
37. Beach Boys - Must Be a Miracle
38. Beach Boys - Won't You Tell Me
39. Beach Boys - Wouldn't It Be Nice (alt beginning)
40. Beach Boys - Awake

if there's anything anyone else wants me to add, tell me!

the full version of rock & roll woman is somewhere on the internet but I don't gots it.

I had Landlocked and Adult Child at one time. Plus the extra tracks that were later released with Smiley Smile/Wild Honey.

does anyone have any recommendations on where I can get MP3s for some of the stuff on this thread...? a lot of the BB blogs out there seem to focus on, like, instrumental/alternate mixes of their 60s material, when mostly I'm interested in unreleased stuff from the late 60s on ...
― The Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis (Shakey Mo Collier)

Same here.. I like the late 60s a lot.

Maybe there is some Beach Boys related stuff you can add iatee.. dennis wilson solo or something
Other than that, good work so far, I don't recognize most of those tracks

hope that's a better copy of Carry Me Home than the one I have, which is crackly and muddy as hell (but damn what a great song)

that tracklisting looks great iatee, bunch of things I haven't heard before on there. you r teh coolest

How about Dennis's Sound of Free?

yeah, that tracklisting looks great, iatee ... i'm always afraid of those massive beach boys bootleg comps, it's be nice to see an expert's picks.

How about Dennis's Sound of Free?

yeah was thinking about this one

great song

It would be great if somebody could skim off the best outtakes for a bootleg/collection of high bitrate or lossless files. Or maybe point me to sucha thing if it exists. I love BB but their bootlegs are always such daunting, sprawling messes.

I have LANDLOCKED, btw.

yes that's what we've been discussing iatee is on the case...

yeah folks, if you know the name (or have an mp3) of a rarity/unreleased/semi-released song that you think should be on iatee's list please feel free to contribute

ne1

It would be great if somebody could skim off the best outtakes for a bootleg/collection of high bitrate or lossless files. Or maybe point me to sucha thing if it exists. I love BB but their bootlegs are always such daunting, sprawling messes.

lossless?? a lot of the most interesting stuff is only available as crackly-ass acetate demos. if you want good sound quality, you should look at the officially released outtake albums (hawthorne, ca etc.)

but yeah I'm (still) putting together a collection of my favorite rare stuff, but I'm drawing from like a dozen sources and the sound quality is often...realllly bad.

someone call up Brian Wilson and tell him to get on this

this is basically gonna sound like a gbv album btw

more or less final tracklist:

1. Beach Boys - Can't Wait Too Long
2. Beach Boys - Til I Die (Extended)
3. Beach Boys - Soulful Old Man Sunshine
4. Beach Boys - Santa Ana Winds
5. Beach Boys - You're Still A Mystery
6. Beach Boys - Sherry She Needs Me
7. Beach Boys - Big Sur (alt)
8. Beach Boys - Still I Dream Of It
9. Beach Boys - Stevie
10. Beach Boys - Old Man River
11. Beach Boys - Black Widow
12. Beach Boys - 4th of July
13. Beach Boys - Holy, Holy
14. Beach Boys - Carry Me Home
15. Beach Boys - You Are So Beautiful To Me (Live)
16. Beach Boys - Soul Searchin
17. Beach Boys - This Is Love (Piano Demo)
18. Beach Boys - Almost Summer (Demo)
19. Beach Boys - A Time To Live In Dreams
20. Beach Boys - Lonely Days
21. Beach Boys - It's Not Easy Being Me
22. Beach Boys - Land Ahoy (Outtake)
23. Beach Boys - Guess I'm Dumb (Instrumental)
24. Beach Boys - California Feeling
25. Beach Boys - Out in the Country
26. Beach Boys - I'm Going Your Way (AKA California Slide)
27. Beach Boys - Hard Time
28. Beach Boys - This Could Be The Night
29. Beach Boys - Endless Harmony
30. Beach Boys - I'm Beggin' You Please
31. Beach Boys - We Got Love
32. Beach Boys - Seasons in the Sun
33. Beach Boys - With a Little Help From My Friends
34. Beach Boys - You've Lost That Lovin Feeling
35. Beach Boys - I Was Made To Love Her (Extended)
36. Beach Boys - Loop De Loop
37. Beach Boys - Must Be a Miracle
38. Beach Boys - Won't You Tell Me
39. Beach Boys - Three Blind Mice
40. Beach Boys - It's Over Now (demo)
41. Beach Boys - Sound of Free
42. Beach Boys - Marilyn Rovell
43. Beach Boys - Back Home (1963 Version)
44. Beach Boys - Back Home (1970 Version)
45. Beach Boys - Prayer (Tracking Sessions)
46. Beach Boys - Time To Get Alone (Alt)
47. Beach Boys - Barbara (demo)
48. Beach Boys - God Only Knows (alt a capella)
49. Beach Boys - God Only Knows (alt sax solo)
50. Beach Boys - God Only Knows (Brian lead)
51. Beach Boys - Wouldn't It Be Nice (alt beginning)
52. Beach Boys - Dog Barking Session
53. Beach Boys - Surf's Up (TV - Brian solo)
54. Beach Boys - I Do (demo)
55. Beach Boys - Beginning Of The End
56. Beach Boys - Good Timin' (Midnight Special 79 - DW vocals)
57. Beach Boys - Looking Down The Coast
58. Beach Boys - Mona Kani
59. Beach Boys - That Special Feeling
60. Beach Boys - Walls (American Spring demo)
61. Beach Boys - Awake (American Spring demo)
62. Beach Boys - Diane (demo)
63. Beach Boys - Marching Along (Little Children)
64. Beach Boys - Thank Him
65. Beach Boys - It's a New Day
66. Beach Boys - Brian's Back
67. Beach Boys - Winter Symphony
68. Beach Boys - Child of Winter
69. Beach Boys - Our Team
70. Beach Boys - The Letter
71. Beach Boys - My Little Red Book

I'll put a link up later tonight

dangggggg, looks amazing. probably heard like a third of this stuff ... can't wait!

whoah dude that's a lot of stuff!

ah the dog barking session...

yeah I had to hold back from including more studio-chatter stuff, a lot of it is really amusing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDNM7dy2WjI

I lol'd

tho - could have been more morbid if they used the actual audio clips of him

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SU6MX5C1

first half

many thx!

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CCJZZCMX

part 2

Excellent, thanks!

thanks, iatee! can't wait to go on a Beach Boys rarities bender ...

wow! been looking forward to this. thank you!!!

gah something on that megaupload site attacked my machine and now Windows is constantly opening up a "My Documents" window

sorry, maybe I should have used a different site? could reupload it elsewhere if there's a more trustworthy one

Very kind of you to put this together, thanks.

np it was fun

btw there is no real logic to the tracklisting beyond "I think this is worth listening to at least once if you're a hardcore fan"

about 1/3 of this stuff is officially released as a bonus track or on an obscure compilation, but I still included them.

also I basically added stuff when I thought of it, which means the quality of the material (generally) goes downhill in the second half. stuff like 'marilyn rovell' and 'child of winter' = empty calories.

I also don't particularly love any of the cover songs. I guess in a way it's interesting to see how a beach boys treatment of a song generally falls flat w/ a classic pop song.

OTOH a lot of the scratchy demo stuff is genius I think. compare the 'almost summer' demo w/ this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wftYCgkwrUw

I didn't include that much pet sounds or smile stuff, but I do think that switching the two first lines of 'wouldn't it be nice' has a small and strange effect on the meaning (emphasizing 'living together' instead of 'if we were older') the alternate versions of 'god only knows' are also just 'what if' moments.

ps

the track 'this is love' should be 'this isn't love'

This thread is making me realise I haven't been giving the Beach Boys enough love and attention recently. It also makes me realise that my quest for BB stuff isn't exhausted yet. That version of Big Sur... man... If anyone can help me get any of these tracks that would be amazing!

sorry, missed the links above. iatee you are the best!

np

but yeah that version of big sur is so much better than the original + probably the single best thing mike love's written (tho not sure who arranged it...)

I was in big sur once and it came on my ipod's shuffle and it was pretty great.

hmm I think I included the version that transitions into 'all I wanna do'...I'm not sure why it does (whether it's the bootleg or someone did it) but it sounds pretty.

other thoughts:

'good timin' w/ dennis might be my single favorite dw moment and is infinitely better than the original

there's no existing version of 'guess I'm dumb' w/ beach boys lyrics, only a glen campbell version which is still pretty good, but still a bb version woulda been a great track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5OXKRIyaxQ

Megaupload is being a horrible bully wit me :-(

hmm I will upload them somewhere else

http://www.divshare.com/download/10408550-0b2
http://www.divshare.com/download/10410104-0bb

hope that works better

wow, this is great. thank you so much.

p.s. that glen campbell song is amazing.

OH HAI

http://cueburn.blogspot.com/2007/09/various-artists-still-i-dream-of-you.html

god I really got in the beach boys nerd mindset this week. being obsessed w/ beach boys rarities is really frustrating because so much of it is so much better than their released output. here's my complete alternate universe post-smile bb where someone w/ some degree of sanity is in charge of what goes on the albums. imo these would alll be 5*/5* albums, and sunflower + surf's up would be up there w/ pet sounds in a not-that-challopsy sense.

(ps, all of these songs existed / were recorded in time for the albums)

Wild Honey

1. Aren't You Glad
2. I Was Made To Love Her (extended)
3. Darlin'
4. Lonely Days
5. Let the Wind Blow
6. Country Air
7. Can't Wait Too Long
8. I'd Love Just Once To See You
9. Their Hearts Were Full of Spring

Friends
+ Old Man River + I Went To Sleep
- TM

20/20

1. We're Together Again
2. Never Learn Not To Love
3. Do It Again
4. I Can Hear Music
5. Time To Get Alone
6. A Time to Live In Dreams
7. Be With Me
8. Cabinessence
9. Our Prayer
10. Walk on By

Sunflower

1. Slip on Through
2. Add Some Music to Your Day
3. Lady
4. Forever
5. Celebrate the News
6. All I Wanna Do
7. Break Away
8. This Whole World
9. Cool, Cool Water
10. It's About Time
11. Soulful Old Man Sunshine

Surf's Up

1. It's a New Day
2. Big Sur (alt)
3. Long Promised Road
4. Surf's Up
5. A Day in the Life of a Tree
6. Feel Flows
7. Sound of Free
8. 4th of July
9. Barbara
10. Til I Die

thx for that - was wondering where/when some of the stuff on your collection came from

No 'Loop de Loop' on Sunflower? I love that song.

my alternate history ends w/

carl and the passions - keep it the same

holland - + 'good timin' + 'we got love'

15 big ones - this album never happens

love you - keep it the same

(band breaks up)

this gives the beach boys a run of 10 amazing albums in a row! if you pretend like 'party' doesn't exist and delete the filler on today and summer days, it could be 12!

yeah I guess you can add loop de loop, but it'd be like the sloop john b of sunflower

15 big ones - this album never happens

lol

I really like this so far iatee
If there are other songs I want to add, like like extra tracks from re-released albums or tracks from landlocked and adult child stuff I can easily do that myself

Soooo am I the only one hearing "big tits" in the song 'Hard Time'

Soooo am I the only one hearing "big tits" in the song 'Hard Time'

^^^NO! me and my wife were listening to this and both did a double-take. the wife also thought that "Stevie" was Brian's ode to his television lol

I'm pretty sure they actually are saying 'big tits' (was then undirtified and turned into 'ding dang')

also megalolz at Our Prayer studio banter ("you guys feelin that acid yet?" "Denny I know you got some more of those hash joints")

the wife also thought that "Stevie" was Brian's ode to his television lol

I don't think anyone knows much about this track...who knows, it could be about his tv. (saint etienne do a good cover version tho)

yeah that's the thing, given Brian's songwriting habits writing an ode to his TV isn't really all that much of a stretch. Maybe the song's title really IS "TV" lolz

According to the (heavily Landy-doctored) autobiography "Wouldn't It Be Nice", Brian wrote and recorded a huge number of demos as part of his therapy called things like "Bring Your Comb", "Stop Carnie From Eating So Many Peanut Butter Sandwiches Around Me" and "Quit Using My Toothpaste". So no it wouldn't surprise me either.

"Stop Carnie From Eating So Many Peanut Butter Sandwiches Around Me"

this sounds like the best brian wilson song ever

"Stop Carnie From Eating So Many Peanut Butter Sandwiches Around Me"

...later a hit for belinda carlisle!

i have a hard time thinking that WILD HONEY could be improved. and i seem to like FRIENDS way more than most, even those who like "later" (post-67) BB a lot.

xpost

frieds is my favorite bb album!

err with 'friends' as a close second

LOL "frieds" brian wilson's concept album about fatty foods

he's certainly had a love/hate relationship with them

but yeah, friends is awesome. absolutely beautiful...and yeah, usually gets less attention than wild honey / sunflower / surf's up, which is weird cause it's (imo) easily the most consistent.

yeah, on most of the LPs from that era there are one or two atrocious songs that you'd prefer to skip (the archetypal one being "student demonstration time"), but i'm not sure that's true of "friends." even "transcendental meditation" is off-kilter in an appealing way. i mean, none of the songs is going to knock your socks off in the way that, i dunno, "heroes and villains" will, but there's something to be said for it all being of a piece.

actually, "friends" is oddly reminiscent of "nashville skyline." both were tranquil/low-key albums released at a time when most were making Major Statements, and both are extremely short and sweet ("friends" is like 25 minutes long, right?). and both are very coherent.

I love Friends and the only thing wrong with TM is that it ruins the mellow vibe of the rest of the record.

wild honey was their nashville skyline really. their back-to-basics record.

I don't think it ruins it. it's not a good song by any means, but I agree w/ amateurist about 'off-kilter in an appealing way'...also it's less than 2 minutes long and is over before you know it.

also nashville skyline comparison is otm

how is country back-to-basics for dylan! (or r&b for the beach boys!)

nashville skyline/friends works better as a comparison -- both celebrate the joys of domesticity / joys of doin' nothin'.

ruin was a strong word to use... it's not a bad song for the reasons mentioned. just that it leaps out after everything that went before.

xpost yeah i can see that

back to basics in the sense of recording as a band in brian's front room

it is interesting though - the "non major statement" aspect of those post Smile records ... I mean, what if the Beach Boys, instead of releasing three records, had released Friends/2020/Sunflower as one double album a la the White Album? Would the late 60s be seen as more triumphant for the band then?

^^^ VERY IMPORTANT QUESTIONS BEING ASKED HERE

people had basically stopped caring (regardless of how good/bad the music was) - so I imagine it woulda been more or less ignored

yeah probably ...

and I mean 'would the late 60s be seen as more triumphant'

among critics / ilm-y types, I think late period beach boys are already seen as among the most interesting act of the era

so would they be more famous-successful w/ an triple album like that? eh I really doubt it. I doubt that even had smile been finished their commercial success would be much different. I mean, even pet sounds was something of a commercial failure.

acts*

Why do I still see 20/20 as "not a proper album" in my head?

fwiw smiley smile through surf's up is by far my favourite period in bb history, but i'm sure this is no longer a challops. I've said it before, but smiley smile is one of the best records of all time in my opinion.

listening to rarities now - thanks so much for this iatee, once again...

xpost oh yeah, i know late 60s Beach Boys is beloved by critics/fans, just thinking out loud that maybe an ambitious triple album would've given them a little more hype at the time ... rather than "here's another Beach Boys album" which I gather is how they were received at the time. Maybe "Surf's Up" was kinda their attempt at being taken more seriously.

heheh, never noticed before, but the section in Can't Wait Too Long 4:20, does a wicked white-funk thing that ABBA also used on Name Of The Game that I've always wanted to recreate with a band.

Why do I still see 20/20 as "not a proper album" in my head?

cause it sorta wasn't one, I mean 'do it again' single from earlier in the year + smile outtakes + a friends outtake + bruce / al / dennis all doing their own things = pretty weird album that sorta sounds like compilation

just thinking out loud that maybe an ambitious triple album would've given them a little more hype at the time

I think it really would have depended on the record company selling it right. but, even then, friends/2020/sunflower = a total of two radio-friendly songs imo (do it again, add some music) one of which was a radio-friendly hit song, one of which failed to be. I guess the problem comes down to a lack of 'singles'...they basically became an album band, for better or worse.

(I guess if 'break away' were included, it would also count as a radio-friendly song, but as with 'add some music', was basically a failure irl so I'm not sure if it would have been any different were the situation different.)

i sort of trust that whatever they put out, the record company and the zeitgeist would have conspired to bury it. honestly i can totally understand that. i probably would have waved them off at the time. i know these albums had their cults (small ones) at the time, but i think in general the decades have helped these records.

what do people think of holland and carl/passions? i find that these albums are slightly more than the sum of their parts. often in isolation even the big songs are underwhelming, but i enjoy listening to them as records.

though sometimes i wonder, if those albums didn't have the "beach boys" tag, and were just some anonymous, journeyman-like early-70s light-rock LPs, would i give them the time of day?

I love about 5/8th's of Holland and like the rest of it. Carl and the Passions I never got on too well with, not even the supposedly beautiful Dennis songs which just sound painful to my ears. I do like that funky one ("Here She Comes") quite a bit off that album, although casual listeners would never tell it was the Boys playing.

wait is "cuddle up" on carl/passions? i go back and forth on those. they are obv quite overwrought, but there's some kind of scuzzy integrity to them.

i admit i find the d. wilson solo album very overrated since its reissue.

I'm yet to really "get" Dennis's songs in general. That solo album that gets paid a lot of dues just sounds exactly like amateurist said about journeyman/literock stuff. It bores me senseless.

haha xpost

"Little Bird" is nice though.

how in the heck do you come up with "total of two radio-friendly singles imo" in a combination that includes "this whole world" and "it's about time"

let's put it this way, dennis was no melodist.

xpost

how in the heck do you come up with "total of two radio-friendly singles imo" in a combination that includes "this whole world" and "it's about time"

I've heard Sunflower about 50-60 times I reckon, and I couldn't tell you how these two go.

congrats on ignoring two of the best songs (and glaringly obvious single choices in retrospect) of the post-PET SOUNDS bb

"Tears in the Morning" b/w "It's About Time" (Brother 0957), November 1970

i can't believe this track order wasn't flipped

how in the heck do you come up with "total of two radio-friendly singles imo" in a combination that includes "this whole world" and "it's about time"

if 'add some music' and 'break away' couldn't be hit singles, 'this whole world' and 'it's about time' def couldn't

you're high, they sound like the hair soundtrack

take it outside you two

right, so they should have been popular...

xp

'This Whole World'??

'this whole world' = the most interesting beach boys song that I don't particularly enjoy listening to

yeah, i listened to it yesterday and it's just all over the place, but not in a paritcularly pleasant way. "it's about time" is the most joyous beach boys song i don't really like.

Wow, "This Whole World" never ceases to blow me away, so many crazy changes and beautiful melodies and harmonies packed in under two minutes. And I think it flows seamlessly.

I don't really hear it as a single though...

personally I love This Whole World, have kinda kept it in our back pocket as a cover for awhile - the changes in it are just insane, from a compositional standpoint its a pretty odd song, especially for something so catchy. But a single...? eh who knows. I doubt there's anything the Beach Boys coulda really done to turn their commercial fortunes around at that point

lol @ this Winter Symphony song

is this version of Brian's Back the one that's on the Mike Love solo album...? (amazed you didn't include Wrinkles off that btw lol)

haha wrinkles is def a must-listen

I included the version from the endless harmony soundtrack. I know it was recorded in 1978, I'm not sure if he specifically recorded it for his solo album or if he just happened to include it...lemme check

just curious - I haven't listened to the Mike Love version in awhile, but maybe this copy was just a little better or a slightly diff't mix or something

okay looks like he did record it w/ the solo album

I had assumed it was more beach boys-y cause it was included in the bb compilation / fit in with the 'brian's back' media campaign that they had

I should one day make an compilation of all-time worst beach boy recordings. brian's sweet insanity + mike love's solo stuff - these guys would be in the running for 'largest margin in musical history between their good work and their bad work'

so true

Carl's solo albums are depressing in their own way, but not in line with the spectacular failures that Mike and Brian were capable of

solo beatles have produced dozens of not-good-or-interesting-at-all albums, rolling stones have tons of crap - but imo the beach boys are pretty much the least self-aware classic rock dudes when it came to distinguishing what made some of their music god-like and some of it HORRIBLE.

which is why the rare stuff can be so interesting

lou reed is up there with them I guess

agree that their weird blind-spots/lack of self-awareness is a big part of what makes them so compelling (and loveable)

I haven't listened to carl's solo albums all the way through (just some tracks, which was enough) but considering how fantastic 'feel flows' and 'long promised road' are I'm surprised that he didn't end up contributing in a dennis-like fashion to 70s beach boys.

like, semi-challopsy statement: as good as dennis wilson can be, I don't think he has any song as good as 'long promised road' or 'feel flows'. maybe 'lady'.

I dunno what happened to Carl's talent, but it really isn't evident on those two solo albums (which were early 80s, I think?). maybe it was the coke... the decision to go with r&b female backup singers on that material is really inexplicable.

"You're still a mystery" is absolutely brilliant
who is singing lead on the chorus?

iatee, i was always under the impression that Carl was the main creative force of '70s Beach Boys.

he was the def the leader / producing lots of stuff but if you actually look at songwriting credits, brian was still writing the core of every album until 'carl and the passions' (this includes lots of 'band reworks old smile track on album' but still)

so yeah, I guess it depends on how you define 'main creative force'?

Well, he did write "Feel Flows", "Long Promised Road" and "Trader", which is, uh, pretty good going!

lorax:

'you're still a mystery' (and 'soul searchin') are from the 'paley sessions' - demos brian made w/ andy paley in 1994-1996. various tracks from that were (poorly) reworked for brian's solo album 'gettin over my head' but not 'you're still a mystery' for reasons that are beyond me. (imo it's a league above the rest.)

the beach boys came in to sing the chorus, apparently.

Where's the love for "Shortnin' Bread"?

yeah but 3 good songs ain't much when you're looking at the entire beach boys discography

xp

Yeah, but 70s Beach Boys we're talkin' 'bout here

right, and dennis wilson was responsible for like a dozen songs in that period and even mike love wrote...more than 3. I dunno I think those 3 carl songs are some of the best things the band has done...I just don't think he can be considered the 'main creative force' w/ that little songwriting input

I don't disagree, I don't think there was a "main creative force" post-Brian-loses-it

yeah me neither

is that really everything he wrote? he did help produce and arrange a lot of stuff, i knew that.

he was co-writer w/ some other songs, and wrote a couple for the LA album

'I can hear music' was very much his doing, but it was also a cover song

long promised road is pretty boring IMO. the trader is great.

all the ecology stuff on those '70s LPs doesn't convince me. it really seems like dabbling.

sure it's dabbling, but I mean most things most 60s/70s rock bands were interested comes across as 'dabbling'

the trader starts off great but I wish the 2nd half didn't exist

http://www.youtube.com/v/X_3nYixwNn0

lol

sounds like Carl singing lead?

god this is sad, who's idea was this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydj86dfm-zA&feature=related

I sort of want this list to be longer. Good stuff iatee

1. Beach Boys - Can't Wait Too Long
2. Beach Boys - Til I Die (Extended)
3. Beach Boys - Soulful Old Man Sunshine
4. Beach Boys - Santa Ana Winds
5. Beach Boys - You're Still A Mystery
6. Beach Boys - Sherry She Needs Me
7. Beach Boys - Big Sur (alt)
8. Beach Boys - Still I Dream Of It
9. Beach Boys - Stevie
10. Beach Boys - Old Man River
11. Beach Boys - Black Widow
12. Beach Boys - 4th of July
13. Beach Boys - Holy, Holy
14. Beach Boys - Carry Me Home
15. Beach Boys - You Are So Beautiful To Me (Live)
16. Beach Boys - Soul Searchin
17. Beach Boys - This Is Love (Piano Demo)
18. Beach Boys - Almost Summer (Demo)
19. Beach Boys - A Time To Live In Dreams
20. Beach Boys - Lonely Days
21. Beach Boys - It's Not Easy Being Me
22. Beach Boys - Land Ahoy (Outtake)
23. Beach Boys - Guess I'm Dumb (Instrumental)
24. Beach Boys - California Feeling
25. Beach Boys - Out in the Country
26. Beach Boys - I'm Going Your Way (AKA California Slide)
27. Beach Boys - Hard Time
28. Beach Boys - This Could Be The Night
29. Beach Boys - Endless Harmony
30. Beach Boys - I'm Beggin' You Please
31. Beach Boys - We Got Love
32. Beach Boys - Seasons in the Sun
33. Beach Boys - With a Little Help From My Friends
34. Beach Boys - You've Lost That Lovin Feeling
35. Beach Boys - I Was Made To Love Her (Extended)
36. Beach Boys - Loop De Loop
37. Beach Boys - Must Be a Miracle
38. Beach Boys - Won't You Tell Me
39. Beach Boys - Three Blind Mice
40. Beach Boys - It's Over Now (demo)
41. Beach Boys - Sound of Free
42. Beach Boys - Marilyn Rovell
43. Beach Boys - Back Home (1963 Version)
44. Beach Boys - Back Home (1970 Version)
45. Beach Boys - Prayer (Tracking Sessions)
46. Beach Boys - Time To Get Alone (Alt)
47. Beach Boys - Barbara (demo)
48. Beach Boys - God Only Knows (alt a capella)
49. Beach Boys - God Only Knows (alt sax solo)
50. Beach Boys - God Only Knows (Brian lead)
51. Beach Boys - Wouldn't It Be Nice (alt beginning)
52. Beach Boys - Dog Barking Session
53. Beach Boys - Surf's Up (TV - Brian solo)
54. Beach Boys - I Do (demo)
55. Beach Boys - Beginning Of The End
56. Beach Boys - Good Timin' (Midnight Special 79 - DW vocals)
57. Beach Boys - Looking Down The Coast
58. Beach Boys - Mona Kani
59. Beach Boys - That Special Feeling
60. Beach Boys - Walls (American Spring demo)
61. Beach Boys - Awake (American Spring demo)
62. Beach Boys - Diane (demo)
63. Beach Boys - Marching Along (Little Children)
64. Beach Boys - Thank Him
65. Beach Boys - It's a New Day
66. Beach Boys - Brian's Back
67. Beach Boys - Winter Symphony
68. Beach Boys - Child of Winter
69. Beach Boys - Our Team
70. Beach Boys - The Letter
71. Beach Boys - My Little Red Book

2. Beach Boys - Til I Die (Extended)
this wasn't the very extended version

yeah what I included was 100% arbitrary and sorta assumed that everyone already had lots of the bonus track / rarity album type stuff (much of which is better than what I did include)

outside of this there's lots of studio outtakes that would be interesting, but not really many full unreleased songs of much merit (imo)

wow, that video up there is pretty horrific

isn't it tho? just... why. it seems so cruel to have even put him up to it, much less broadcast it.

iatee's comp is great btw, really wonderful. many thanks!!

Can I download/get a copy of this somewhere pls?

I'll put it up again when I get home tonight (or someone else who has it can do it in the meanwhile)

Big O blog is putting up some of those Archaeology bootlegs: http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=653 & http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=647

\The first disc is devoted to the sessions for “Heroes & Villains,” with vocal and tracking takes all in clear sound, including a strange studio “acting” take with Brian wanting to take some guy’s radishes, and being continuously rebuffed.

lol Brian

http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=647

^^^what is this? Jan & Dean? Does not sound like any of the Beach Boys singing.

what song?

I'm guessing endless sleep? it's jody reynolds

I still gotta put up the comp for dog latin, err, getting on that

I think your old links still work

oh good catch cl

dog latin:

This is the thread where we talk about great Beach Boys+BW unreleased/demo/semi-released songs

"Beginning of the End"

iatee ^^^what is this/where is it from? the quality is fairly terrible so it's kinda hard for me to tell, but it is interesting

think it's a really early gary usher session? 1962-63 ...

yup

originally from bootleg listed on this page:

http://www.beachboys.com/raritiesV.html (tho my copy was from another bootleg)

ah thx

my post upthread where I remake all the beach boys albums is my favorite thing I've posted on ilx

it's like I always had the alt-history albums bouncing around in my head and I finally worked it out once and for all and don't have to think about it anymore

Thank you iatee.

'still i dream of it' is so crushing. i can barely listen to the damn thing without crying.

can't really imagine a polished studio version being as powerful.

this thread is a testament to posting the song titles in case the youtubes get taken down

lol was just thinking that

So 'Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again' still hasn't leaked huh

http://www.amazon.com/Made-California-The-Beach-Boys/dp/B008XZKSRY/ref=pd_rhf_ee_s_cp_7_2W98?ie=UTF8&refRID=127HJ5S44N8S6B782W98
The Beach Boys have opened their archives for a new career-spanning, six-CD collection titled Made In California, capping the legendary band's 50th Anniversary celebrations. Made In California features more than seven and a half hours of music, including more than 60 previously unreleased tracks. The deluxe set is presented in a high school annual-inspired hardbound book with personal recollections from the band's members, replicated classic artwork and memorabilia, photos from the band's archive, and handwritten yearbook-style inscriptions from Beach Boys Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Al Jardine, Bruce Johnston, and David Marks.

Made In California chronologically charts the 50-year career of America's Band, from their earliest demos to their most recent recordings. With huge hits and rare gems including never-before-released original songs, home demos, alternate takes and mixes, and live concert, television and radio performances, the set showcases the breadth and diversity of The Beach Boys' recorded catalog and illustrates the band's unique and evocative West Coast story. From 'Surfin' Safari' to 'God Only Knows,' 'Wouldn't It Be Nice' and 'Good Vibrations' to 'Kokomo,' The Beach Boys' canon boasts a masterful versatility that is unparalleled in American popular music.

Made In California's memorabilia includes Brian Wilson's 1959 high school essay titled 'My Philosophy,' which is reproduced in the collection's book in its original handwritten form (the original is currently on display in The GRAMMY Museum's yearlong Beach Boys exhibit celebrating the band's 50-year career).

Made In California's previously unreleased and long sought-after recordings include 'Goin' To The Beach,' 'California Feelin',' 'Soul Searchin',' 'You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling,' and 'You're Still A Mystery,' among others. The set also debuts 17 unreleased live recordings, including 'Runaway' (1965), 'Friends' and 'Little Bird' (1968), 'Wild Honey' (1972), 'It's About Time' (1973), 'Wonderful' and 'Vegetables' from The Beach Boys' legendary 1993 acoustic tour, and a 1995 rendition of 'Sail On, Sailor' featuring a soulful lead vocal by the late Carl Wilson. The greatly missed talents of Carl and Dennis Wilson are also celebrated with rare and previously unreleased recordings including Dennis' '(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again,' 'Barnyard Blues' and 'My Love Lives On,' Carl's lead vocals on 'Da Doo Ron Ron' and 'Soul Searchin',' and Carl's shared lead with Bruce and Brian on 'California Feelin'.'

The set also features a special 'From The Vaults' disc of rarities selected by the band and the producers with longtime Beach Boys fans in mind. Among the disc's highlights are a cappella mixes of standout vocal recordings for songs including 'This Whole World' and 'Slip On Through,' alternate versions of 'Don't Worry Baby' and other Beach Boys classics, session highlights and instrumental tracks, plus newly-discovered BBC Radio live recordings from 1964 of 'Wendy,' 'When I Grow Up (To Be A Man),' and 'Hushabye.'

as much as i'm like uhhh another beach boys box set, i wouldn't mind having a lot of this stuff in cleaned up, non-bootleggy quality.

Where's the love for "Shortnin' Bread"?

― Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 14:06 (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^ bears reposting

if i understand the lyrics, mama's little baby loves "Shortnin Bread"

"still a mystery" is great!

the box set was discussed on the beach boys pox thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jinTmcYwAdQ

awesome. thank you.

Ahhhhh! Muchas gracias

Figured this was worth reviving in the wake of the LA Times articles posted about on This is the thread where we talk about great Beach Boys+BW unreleased/demo/semi-released songs but only a little and it's probably more appropriate here anyway.

Anyway, that sent me down a rabbit hole the last few days and I downloaded iatee's mix -- some of which is a bit dated post the Made in California box, but which is well done overall.

Re. the box, which I've been listening to on Spotify, I was actually surprised at the amount of unreleased--and un-bootlegged--material. It's interesting to compare MiC to the GV set in 1993 -- the biggest difference of which is that the latter incorporates the full-scale acceptance of Brian's genius, tho also the reappraisal of Dennis who was largely ignored on the GV box and gets a fair amount of real estate on MiC (prob. at the expense of Carl ... not like he can complain). Also, the remastering is leagues better.

Observations on the unreleased stuff on the box, tho not comprehensive.

New songs:

"(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again" -- not bad, but not one of my favorite Dennis things. Maybe a bit overestimated in the wake of Dennis's critical reappraisal.

"Barnyard Blues" -- same.

"My Love Lives On" -- this is more like it. Whatever reservations folks upthread have about Dennis's sense of melodicism, I don't listen to the guy for tunes -- I listen to him for emotion, and the more naked, direct and piano-based the better ("Baby Blue," "Only With You," "Holy Holy"). This is a nice example of that.

"Sound of Free" -- another good Dennis song. Have had this on boot for a while, but it's great to hear in decent audio.

As I noted on the other thread, "Where Is She?" is a really weird re-write of "She's Leaving Home."

"My Little Red Book - Demo" -- had much higher hopes given the "Walk On By" snippet on the Friends/20/20 two-fer. This kinda sucks.

"California Feelin'" still doesn't floor me. Timothy White talked about this like it was "God Only Knows Part 2" -- and while the gospel chords Brian uses in the demo are pretty amazing, the full version of it still doesn't sound finished (tho I like Bruce Johnston's repetition of the title).

"Goin' to the Beach" finally got released! Why a finished version of this didn't make it onto KtSA makes no sense at all. It's hardly great, but certainly better than the Randy Bachmann collabs that did make the cut.

It's also super nice to have the two Paley sesh songs in official BB mixes -- both are pretty solid tunes, if not exactly groundbreaking, and they obviously did a fair amount of work trying to get the group together with Brian ca. 1996. Great article in Uncut from '97 on what a cluster that was, if you can track it down -- with Sean O'Hagen momentarily brought in by Bruce and mortified by the kind of behavior going on with all parties (ie, not just Mike but Brian and Bruce, who by this point comes off unbelievably jaded and kind of a jerk).

New mixes:

"Transcendental Meditation - Instrumental" -- this is pretty awesome, actually, and redeems the song considerably, sounding in some ways like Islands-era King Crimson.

"This Whole World - A Capella Mix" -- confirms iatee's comment upthread for me that this remains "the most interesting beach boys song that I don't particularly enjoy listening to."

"Slip on Through - A Capella Mix" -- because the lead vocal is so rock, the verses are sort of surprisingly psychedelic and Smile-ish when stripped of its backing track.

"Country Air - 2012 Stereo Mix" -- loses some of the beauty of the ensemble vocals in the original. Sound quality tho is exceptional.

"Had to Phone Ya' - Instrumental Mix" -- reveals this to be a very Bacharach track, someone ruined by Mike's lead (and I like Mike's leads).

"Isn't It Time -- Single Mix" -- not new, but I hadn't heard this. My favorite cut from That's Why God Made the Radio and much better with the intro not beginning with Brian struggling to find the right key.

All in all, I think MiC is probably the best summary of the band yet in that you get a really good sense of the breadth of their output, and a deeper dive into the talent that comprised it.

That's a great post! Gonna finally be getting this from the library soon and now I'm more excited about it.

just posting this here cuz why not but man poor Carl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsGXmt4TLdM

Pretty sure Heroes and Villains discusses this incident and what a mess that Australian tour was.

The box sent me to spend a bunch of the last few days listening to the Wilson-Paley sessions. It would appear that Paley had a pretty significant role in the songwriting (Brian even says in one article, true or not, that most of "Soul Searchin'" was written by Andy) – and in retrospect, while they are a significant leap forward from the S/T record (which I detest) and Sweet Insanity, the tunes are a bit too willfully retro to really take as serious entries to the BW canon.

That said, they definitely represent the most solid batch of tunes Brian was involved with since his post heyday heyday – and it would've been nice to hear more of what the full band could've done with these tunes, as opposed to the mostly crummy versions that came out on Imagination and Gettin' In Over My Head.

Here's a piece of an article from Paul Lester in Uncut in 1997 that makes it sound kind of amazing that anything, much less two finished tunes, came out of those sessions at all in '96 (pretty much everyone comes off as a self-absorbed asshole, Brian and Sean O'Hagen included):

http://uncanny1.blogspot.com/2005/05/brian-wilsonandy-paleysean-ohagan.html?m=1

Which is another reason that That's Why God..., even with its imperfections, is a pretty cool thing to have happened. The suite at the end is pretty clearly the kind of thing all the Paleys, Landy's and producer schlubs involved w the S/T record only wish they could've dragged out of Brian. It's almost as if after 30 years of people pushing him to revisit some past glory—"another Smile," "another Pet Sounds," "another Surfin' USA"—Brian finally put them out of his head and just wrote some shit about driving by the ocean as the sun sets. Good on him.

ugh "salt lake city". some odd inclusions on this...

I actually really like SLC – the ascending two bass opening riff, the aforementioned Steve Douglas breakdown, and the verse melody.

On a semi-related note, many years ago I imagined what this song would sound like as realized by Cupid & Psyche-era Scritti Politti. Not sure why.

from a q&a at his website:

Hi Brian, which Beach Boys album would you say was your favorite and why?
Well, my favorite is Summer Days and Summer Nights because it had cool rock and roll songs like Salt Lake City, you know?

Great minds

having lived in slc i just can't get behind this song.

I like the s/t more than any other solo BW I've heard. There's some crap on it, but some gold too imo

Other than SMiLE, the debate over the best BW solo record is not exactly a barnburner of a competition. Even putting aside the atrocious production, the record is a slog. None of its songs rank with anything on LA Light Album much less a record in the BB canon. "Love and Mercy" is fine enough I suppose for what it is but it's ordinary melodically and its lyrics are Landyized psychodrivel. It got elevated to a degree unworthy of its quality as a song simply because it was the first song Brian had released in over a decade that appeared to be about his emotional state.

For all the people who were involved in this record, it's stunning how little of them understood a thing about what made Brian special.

Sonically it sounds like a logical progression from Love You. Rio Grande and One For the Boys are easily better than anything on L.A. Light c'mon now

I should have said nothing on S/T ranks with the *best* stuff on LA – ie, "Good Timin'"and "Baby Blue."

"One for the Boys" is fine enough, but hardly "Our Prayer." It strikes me the same way all BW's modern day a capella pieces do: nice but inessential.

i iike the first solo record enough but "rio grande" is the only essential track on there. that lucky old sun is a decent album that i don't recall seeing mentioned much on ilm.

I'll rep for That Lucky Old Sun as his best non-Smile solo album by a substantial margin... Even if the songs on the self-titled were any good, which they aren't, they would be tanked by the embarrassing production. It's like Love You plus the worst of the '80s.

"Cry" off of Imagination is nice, even a bit bluesy in a few places and I can't think of anything else BW did i'd describe as such.

The '90s Paley sessions were promising.... I much prefer the early take of "Gettin' In Over My Head" to the one that was re-recorded for the like-titled album.

the post s/t solo BW stuff I've heard has all sounded very fussy and labored, plus his voice is well and truly shot it seems like. the big 80s wall o synths doesn't really bother me. there are some atrociously stupid lyrics but that has always been par for the course.

Never really warmed to the s/t album. The Paley sessions tracks (Landylocked boot in my case) definitely tided me over throughout the latter half of the 90s, along with Orange Crate Art. There's something to be said for wringing every last bit of magic out of what you have, even when there's not much to choose from. Back then, it seemed BW's legacy was as much about what was missing as it was about what's there.

If I think too much about it, I become cynical. Compared to, say, Paul McCartney or Miles Davis (just to name two other idols with long recording histories), BW's track record is pretty spotty. However, when I actually try to imagine being 24 and trying to make the best pop song ever written...

omg that interview

Are there any modern or more recent songs you're fond of?
I liked Take My Breath Away. A group called Berlin.

does anyone have Lei'd in Hawaii I seem to have lost it when my last hard drive died

I had no idea about the connection between Charles Lloyd and the Beach Boys. Literally never seen it referred to anywhere before today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0HBok8LMKI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pplzKDgcmj0

idly thumbing through Leaf's "Beach Boys and the California Myth" and was struck by how much he dwells on stuff that was in the vaults/unreleased at the time - some of which has since circulated, some of which is clearly fake (including a purported sleeve + tracklisting for Landlocked), some of which seems like it was just mislabeled, and other stuff that is genuinely still buried. He even includes pictures of reel cases from the Beach Boys "recording library" with titles scrawled on the sides.

this is a great thread, really makes me want to dig into the BBs catalog (i really only know the usual suspects)

here's another one I hadn't heard before today - "Sea Cruise" ("15 Big Ones" outtake w Dennis on lead, generally better than some of the other crap on that album)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRMZx6h__hg

man this stuff is like a bottomless well, here's Dennis' "I'm Going Your Way"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ejCohq5Gvw

from a q&a at his website:

Hi Brian, which Beach Boys album would you say was your favorite and why?
Well, my favorite is Summer Days and Summer Nights because it had cool rock and roll songs like Salt Lake City, you know?
― fit and working again, Friday, April 18, 2014 9:58 PM (two years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Is there such thing as "the truth" in teh BBs bootleg soap opera? True, their connections to Saltair and Lagoon Park in Farmington, UT run deep, but it seems more like Brian may have not really cared about much more than securing their Utah fan base.

Davis met Brian Wilson four years ago at a BMI awards dinner saluting the musical genius. "He remembered coming to Salt Lake, but it was not a big deal. When you talk to Mike Love, Salt Lake was big time to them. He loved Salt Lake City. But Wilson remembered writing 'Salt Lake City' as one of those fun songs they sat down and did."

idly thumbing through Leaf's "Beach Boys and the California Myth" and was struck by how much he dwells on stuff that was in the vaults/unreleased at the time - some of which has since circulated, some of which is clearly fake (including a purported sleeve + tracklisting for Landlocked), some of which seems like it was just mislabeled, and other stuff that is genuinely still buried. He even includes pictures of reel cases from the Beach Boys "recording library" with titles scrawled on the sides.

I still want to hear that "Sail On Sailor" writing tape White writes about with Brian telling VDP to convince him he's not insane.

He was dead wrong about "California Feeling" tho.

there was a beach boys cd my friend was playing years ago, I think it may have been a promo or bonus disc thing for a beach boys box set. It was an idiosyncratic mix of acapellas, outtakes, alternate mixes, maybe a couple radio spots. it had a turquoise/teal cover with a portrait of the boys in the middle.. Really nice collection, wish I could find out what it was.

Hard to say, there are a million of those things

Sea Cruise is soooo much better than pretty much everything on 15 Big Ones. Maybe just because Dennis singing though.

it's ok (no pun intended) but frankie ford's version kills dennis's

heyo

THE BEACH BOYS OPEN THE VAULTS FOR ‘1967 – SUNSHINE TOMORROW,’
TO BE RELEASED WORLDWIDE ON JUNE 30

New 2CD & Digital Collection Features New, First-Ever Stereo Mix of ‘Wild Honey,’ Plus 54 Previously Unreleased 1967 Studio Session Tracks & Live Recordings

New ‘Wild Honey’ Stereo Mix Also Debuts in 50th Anniversary 180-Gram Vinyl Edition


Los Angeles – May 23, 2017 – The Beach Boys have personally overseen the creative process for a new 2CD and digital collection, 1967 – Sunshine Tomorrow, to be released worldwide on June 30 by Capitol//UMe. 1967 – Sunshine Tomorrow features producers Mark Linett and Alan Boyd’s new, first-ever stereo mix of The Beach Boys’ 1967 Wild Honey album and throws open the legendary band’s vault to debut 54 sought-after 1967 rarities, 50 years after they were put to tape. Previously unreleased highlights on the new collection include The Beach Boys’ shelved “live” album, Lei’d in Hawaii, studio recordings from the Wild Honey and Smiley Smile album sessions, and several standout concert recordings spanning 1967 to 1970. Wild Honey’s new stereo mix will also debut in a 180-gram vinyl 50th Anniversary Edition on June 30.

1967 – Sunshine Tomorrow dives into a fascinating and frenetic chapter in The Beach Boys’ long, groundbreaking creative arc, exploring the band’s dynamic year in the studio and on tour. The Beach Boys’ final studio session for the shelved SMiLE album took place on May 18th, 1967, with Smiley Smile album sessions booked at Brian Wilson’s new home studio from June 3rd through the end of July. The band’s 12th and 13th studio albums were released exactly three months apart to cap the year’s studio efforts: Smiley Smile on September 18th followed by Wild Honey on December 18th.

“I wanted to have a home environment trip where we could record at my house,” recalls Brian Wilson in the liner notes for 1967 – Sunshine Tomorrow. “I wanted to try something different, something new. I produced Smiley Smile, but Mike inspired me. He said ‘Brian, let’s make a really good, easygoing album’. We had an engineer convert my den into a studio. We had my piano detuned to make it ring more.”

“Just prior to that, Brian had built up this production peak and then just completely reversed field, and (for Smiley Smile) did something so light and airy, and y’ know, easy,” explains Mike Love. “That was an underground album, I figure, for us. It was completely out of the mainstream of what was going on at that time, which was all hard rock, psychedelic music, and here we come with a song called ‘Wind Chimes.’ It just didn’t have anything to do with what was going on – and that was the idea.”

“Times were changing,” adds Al Jardine. “We were happy to put our musical skills to work. We didn’t have to look at the clock; there was virtually 24-hour availability to experiment.”

“Take away their sorrow / Give them sunshine tomorrow”

On August 25th and 26th, 1967, The Beach Boys (absent Bruce Johnston, but with Brian Wilson on organ in his first concert appearances with the band in more than two years) recorded two concerts and rehearsals in Honolulu for a prospective live album to be titled Lei’d In Hawaii, applying a new Smiley Smile-inspired aesthetic to the performances. Just over two weeks later, the band (with both Brian and Bruce participating) began re-recording the live set in-studio at Brian’s house and at Wally Heider Recording in Hollywood, after the Honolulu concert tapes were deemed unusable. Although completed and mixed, the final planned audio element of a canned concert audience was not added and the Lei’d In Hawaiiproject was canceled. Those live, in-studio performances morphed into sessions for the Wild Honey album, primarily comprised of original Brian Wilson/Mike Love compositions.

In a 1976 look back at 1967’s most heralded albums, Village Voice critic Robert Christgau praised Wild Honey with an “A+” review, writing, “It’s perfect and full of pleasure; it does what it sets out to do almost without a bad second.”

Bruce Johnston says that Wild Honey showcases a band devoid of pressure: “Here’s the thing – the most important thing – you need to know aboutWild Honey. It was just an album for us to exhale and do something real simple; but as it’s Brian and Mike’s music, it’s still fabulous and not so simple. I love the album.”

Two days after wrapping the Wild Honey sessions on November 15th, 1967, Mike Love, Carl and Dennis Wilson, Al Jardine, and Bruce Johnston returned to the road for The Beach Boys’ Thanksgiving Tour, premiering several songs from the forthcoming album at their concerts.

Preorder The Beach Boys’ 1967 – Sunshine Tomorrow here: https://UMe.lnk.to/19672CD
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The Beach Boys continue to hold Billboard / Nielsen SoundScan’s record as America’s top-selling band for albums and singles, and they are also the American group with the most Billboard Top 40 chart hits (36). “Good Vibrations” was inducted into the GRAMMY Hall of Fame® in 1994. ‘Sounds Of Summer: The Very Best Of The Beach Boys’ has achieved triple-Platinum sales status and ‘The SMiLE Sessions,’ released to worldwide critical acclaim in 2011, was heralded as the year’s Best Reissue by Rolling Stone and earned a GRAMMY Award® for Best Historical Album.

Inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1988 and recipients of The Recording Academy’s Lifetime Achievement Award, The Beach Boys are a beloved American institution that remains iconic around the world.

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Excerpted from the 1967 – Sunshine Tomorrow Producers Notes by Mark Linett and Alan Boyd:
After the decision was made to shelve the unfinished SMiLE album in early 1967, The Beach Boys opted to return to recording as a self-contained band, working mostly at Brian Wilson’s home and using rented recording equipment. The two albums they released that year, Smiley Smile and Wild Honey, were both originally presented in mono only (with Capitol also issuing re-channeled “pseudo stereo” editions). Smiley Smile was remixed and released in stereo in 2012. Now, at last, The Beach Boys and Capitol present the first true stereo mix of Wild Honey, along with outtakes, session highlights, and selected backing tracks from both the Smiley Smile and Wild Honey sessions.

Note that the 8-track master for “Mama Says” could not be located, so that song is presented here in its original mono mix. In addition, the organ solo on “How She Boogalooed It” was actually overdubbed as the song was being mixed to mono (as was the organ on the rest of the song), so that section is also presented in mono.

The Beach Boys: 1967 – Sunshine Tomorrow [2CD, digital]

Disc 1

Wild Honey Album (Stereo)
(New stereo mix, except as noted *. Recorded September 15 to November 15, 1967 at Brian Wilson’s house and at Wally Heider Recording in Hollywood, California)
1. Wild Honey (2:45)
2. Aren't You Glad (2:16)
3. I Was Made To Love Her (2:07)
4. Country Air (2:21)
5. A Thing Or Two (2:42)
6. Darlin’ (2:14)
7. I'd Love Just Once To See You (1:49)
8. Here Comes The Night (2:44)
9. Let The Wind Blow (2:23)
10. How She Boogalooed It (1:59)
11. Mama Says * (Original Mono Mix) (1:08)

Wild Honey Sessions: September - November 1967 (Previously Unreleased)
12. Lonely Days (Alternate Version) (1:45)
13. Cool Cool Water (Alternate Early Version) (2:08)
14. Time To Get Alone (Alternate Early Version) (3:08)
15. Can't Wait Too Long (Alternate Early Version) (2:49)
16. I'd Love Just Once To See You (Alternate Version) (2:22)
17. I Was Made To Love Her (Vocal Insert Session) (1:35)
18. I Was Made To Love Her (Long Version) (2:35)
19. Hide Go Seek (0:51)
20. Honey Get Home (1:22)
21. Wild Honey (Session Highlights) (5:39)
22. Aren't You Glad (Session Highlights) (4:21)
23. A Thing Or Two (Track And Backing Vocals) (1:01)
24. Darlin’ (Session Highlights) (4:36)
25. Let The Wind Blow (Session Highlights) (4:14)

Wild Honey Live: 1967 - 1970 (Previously Unreleased)
26. Wild Honey (Live) (2:53) - recorded in Detroit, November 17, 1967
27. Country Air (Live) (2:20) - recorded in Detroit, November 17, 1967
28. Darlin’ (Live) (2:25) - recorded in Pittsburgh, November 22, 1967
29. How She Boogalooed It (Live) (2:43) - recorded in Detroit, November 17, 1967
30. Aren’t You Glad (Live) (3:12) - recorded in 1970, location unknown

31. Mama Says (Session Highlights) (3:08)
(Previously unreleased vocal session highlights. Recorded at Wally Heider Recording, November 1967)

Disc 2

Smiley Smile Sessions: June - July 1967 (Previously Unreleased)
(Recorded June and July 1967 at Brian Wilson’s house, Western Recorders, SRS, and/or Columbia Studios, except as noted *)
1. Heroes And Villains (Single Version Backing Track) (3:38)
2. Vegetables (Long Version) (2:55)
3. Fall Breaks And Back To Winter (Alternate Mix) (2:28)
4. Wind Chimes (Alternate Tag Section) (0:48)
5. Wonderful (Backing Track) (2:23)
6. With Me Tonight (Alternate Version With Session Intro) (0:51)
7. Little Pad (Backing Track) (2:40)
8. All Day All Night (Whistle In) (Alternate Version 1) (1:04)
9. All Day All Night (Whistle In) (Alternate Version 2) (0:50)
10. Untitled (Redwood) * (0:35)
(Previously unreleased instrumental fragment. Studio and exact recording date unknown. Discovered in tape box labeled “Redwood”)

Lei'd In Hawaii “Live” Album: September 1967 (Previously Unreleased)
(Recorded September 11, 1967 at Wally Heider Recording in Hollywood, CA, with additional recording September 29, 1967 (except as noted *). Original mono mixes from assembled master ½” reel, dated September 29, 1967, discovered in the Brother Records Archives.)
11. Fred Vail Intro (0:24)
12. The Letter (1:54)
13. You're So Good To Me (2:31)
14. Help Me, Rhonda (2:24)
15. California Girls (2:30)
16. Surfer Girl (2:17)
17. Sloop John B (2:50)
18. With A Little Help From My Friends * (2:21)
(Recorded at Brian Wilson’s house, September 23, 1967)
19. Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring * (2:33)
(Recorded during rehearsal, August 26, 1967, Honolulu, Hawaii)
20. God Only Knows (2:45)
21. Good Vibrations (4:13)
22. Game Of Love (2:11)
23. The Letter (Alternate Take) (1:56)
24. With A Little Help From My Friends (Stereo Mix) (2:21)

Live In Hawaii: August 1967 (Previously Unreleased)
(The Beach Boys recorded two complete concerts and rehearsals in Honolulu on August 25 and 26, 1967. Brian Wilson rejoined the group onstage for these shows; Bruce Johnston was not present. The following tracks derive from the original 1” 8-track master reels discovered in the Brother Records Archives.)
25. Hawthorne Boulevard (1:05)
26. Surfin' (1:40)
27. Gettin’ Hungry (3:19)
28. Hawaii (Rehearsal Take) (1:11)
29. Heroes And Villains (Rehearsal) (4:45)

Thanksgiving Tour 1967: Live In Washington, D.C. & Boston (Previously Unreleased)
(The touring Beach Boys - Mike, Carl, Dennis, Al, and Bruce – embarked on a Thanksgiving Tour immediately after delivering the finished Wild Honey album to Capitol Records. For this tour, the band was augmented by Ron Brown on bass and Daryl Dragon on keyboards.)
30. California Girls (Live) (2:32) - recorded in Washington, DC, November 19, 1967
31. Graduation Day (Live) (2:56) - recorded in Washington, DC, November 19, 1967
32. I Get Around (Live) (2:53) - recorded in Boston, November 23, 1967

Additional 1967 Studio Recordings (Previously Unreleased)
33. Surf’s Up (1967 Version) (5:25)
(Recorded during the Wild Honey sessions in November 1967)
34. Surfer Girl (1967 A Capella Mix) (2:17)
(Previously unreleased mix of Lei’d In Hawaii take from the Wally Heider Recording sessions in September 1967)

will get

man if they are planning on doing this for all the subsequent albums...

"54 sought-after 1967 rarities" hrm

i'll check this out but it doesn't look like there's much here that i'll listen to more than once.

I always think that about sessions boxes too, but you'd be surprised how cool it is to have some 45 second harmony vocal track pop up in shuffle. And I don't think I've heard Lei'd in Hawaii anyway, so you know, need to have.

Lei'd in Hawai'i - the rehearsal stuff w/minimal instrumentation - is just beautiful

Wasn't Redwood the pre 3-Dog Night band that Brian was writing and producing for?

Yes

W danny hutton

33. Surf’s Up (1967 Version) (5:25)
(Recorded during the Wild Honey sessions in November 1967)

!!!

This comes out tomorrow, BTW.

Can't wait -- probably will snag it on Saturday, and I do want the liners.

I've been listening to this era a bunch as I have been playing a Smile boot and the 2nd and 3rd disc of the GV set in my car for my daughters as I drive them around to various softball events this summer. They adore "Good Vibrations" and most of the sessions (they prefer the Hum-de-daa section) -- and the older one actually complained when I turned off the cantina version of "Heroes and Villains"! Also, with a bit of perspective in a post-Smile Sessions era, it is straight up hilarious in retrospect how much Smile material made it out in drips and drabs over the years ... the woodshop stuff at the end of "Do It Again" being among the most WTF.

I am honestly probably too excited about what the Wild Honey-era "Surf's Up" will turn out to be. Is it another Brian solo rendition? A "back to basics" take similar to what they were doing in late-'67? Something else?

so is that another take of this smile sessions version, or just a longer edit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3TRns_zssM

It sounds like the same thing except with some aborted takes/practice lines at the start.

I am so bummed this site: http://www.btinternet.com/~bellagio/unreleased.html is dead. now how am I going to tag all of the rarities from iatee's mix with the right year argggh

archive.org to the rescue

https://web.archive.org/web/20121020054242/http://www.btinternet.com/~bellagio/unreleased.html

the wayback machine is your friend.

lol xp

heyo!

many thx

Listened to some of Sunshine Tomorrow on Spotify the last few days ... I have sort of a weird reaction at this point to the dog's breakfast comps the Beach Boys release (Hawthorne, Endless Harmony), which often feature a handful of tracks I adore but a bunch of live takes I'm less interested in.

That said, I do like that they are digging into presenting this post-Smile, quiet piano and organ era of the band, which is an underrated period in the band's history (but appreciated by Xgau, who gave Wild Honey an A+ IIRC) and texturally off the charts. As a result, I love the shit out of things like alternate takes of "Can't Wait Too Long" which I could probably put on loop for an hour and not get bored of. Most of the alternate takes are actually pretty great, just a bit leaner than the (already lean) versions that were previously released.

Another highlight: the rehearsal take of "Heroes and Villains" live in Honolulu (not on Lei'd in Hawaii IIRC, or in the bgd while Mike trashes the shit out of it in a "humorous" monologue). As a rule, I love the hell out of that organ and bass sound on LiH -- and the arrangement of H&V is fabulous.

One other thing that occurred to me this past weekend: has there been any interest in someone taking a whack at remixing some of the material from this era? By which I don't mean remixing in the sense of adding beats but along the lines of what Stephen Desper did with "Til I Die" on the version released on Endless Harmony -- cutting and pasting parts to repeat sections and emphasize vocal backgrounds and the like. Feel like this would be an awesome undertaking.