The Cure: The Head on the Door poll

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The Head on the Door is the sixth studio album by The Cure, released August 26, 1985. The album is the first to feature drummer Boris Williams, it also features the return of Simon Gallup and is Porl Thompson's first album as an official member.

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
1. In Between Days 18
8. Night Like This 13
5. Push 10
7. Close to Me 8
4. Six Different Ways 6
6. Baby Screams 4
2. Kyoto Song 4
3. Blood 3
10. Sinking 3
9. Screw 2


Bee OK, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:41 (sixteen years ago)

a night like this

akm, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:43 (sixteen years ago)

I like the live version on Live In Orange better than the album version, but still, OTM

StanM, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:45 (sixteen years ago)

not their strongest album by any means...The Baby Screams and A Night Like This are so far ahead of the others it's not funny

was actually thinking about this the other day

Shtick Monthly (country matters), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:47 (sixteen years ago)

I know Dan will vote for Push

akm, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:50 (sixteen years ago)

Push used to be my favourite when I were young but these days I find it too depthlessly saccharine

whereas the two I named are pulsating, psychotic trips into the dark heart of the soul...AND great pop-songs too!

Shtick Monthly (country matters), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:53 (sixteen years ago)

I voted 'A Night Like This' too... Funny story - for some reason - when I was in HS, liking this record a bunch despite my normal love of raucous Punk and Thrash Metal I remember accompanying some friend in my small town to a church youth group thingy - youth for christ or something similarly terrible. Anyways, the young preacher dude proselytizing was slammin' the youth about the danger and impurity and devil-worshiping in popular music - for some reason, this record was on the 'hit list' - for 'blood' and 'screw' I believe ... made me listen to it all the more. They even had it on some crappy video tape supplement material - off to youtube to look for that ...

BlackIronPrison, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:56 (sixteen years ago)

I saw the local Cure tribute band Fascination Street do an absolutely fantastic gig this weekend. Really can't say enough good things about them, and the singer is a dead ringer for Robert Smith in every way as well.

I don't think this is a particularly strong album for them, either. In fact, aside from Push, Sinking & A Night Like This, I've never felt any need to play any of it again since it came out.

I'm going with Sinking.

Born Again Atheist (Bimble), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:57 (sixteen years ago)

"Close to Me" is one of the best singles from the 80's.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:59 (sixteen years ago)

but still will probably vote for something else.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:00 (sixteen years ago)

"A Night Like This." Love the sax solo, the bridges ("It goes dark, it goes darker still.."), the growling guitar lick, and the palpable sense of sexy menace.

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:08 (sixteen years ago)

1. Close To Me
2. Six Different Ways
3. Blood

nicky lo-fi, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:10 (sixteen years ago)

Best I could do ..

http://www.forerunner.com/forerunner/X0007_Hells_Bells_-_part_2.html
http://www.ubu.com/outsiders/365/2003/138.shtml

Hahahaha - good stuff - gotta watch out for those Cure guys - they devil woshippas!

BlackIronPrison, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:10 (sixteen years ago)

I love A Night Like This but the Sax just ruins the song for me. If only there was a saxless version. I love this album in general though. Probably my 3rd fav. behind 17 Seconds and Disintegration.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:27 (sixteen years ago)

The sax version is a very good Andy Mackay imitation.

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:29 (sixteen years ago)

i had sax but I love it in this song, it's so incredibly 1986.

akm, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:41 (sixteen years ago)

hate sax, that is.

akm, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:41 (sixteen years ago)

my first cure album. it all seemed so mysterious to me. hmm, i'll have to think about it.

would you ask tom petty that? (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:51 (sixteen years ago)

ok well if there wasn't a bug preventing me from voting, it'd be The Baby Screams

Shtick Monthly (country matters), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:55 (sixteen years ago)

Actually, if I could see this poll I'd be voting for "Screw".

(stupid mod setup making some polls invisible to me)

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 01:56 (sixteen years ago)

any poll with a jpg in the title doesn't allow a mod (even of one board) to vote for it

Shtick Monthly (country matters), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 01:58 (sixteen years ago)

hence: please refrain from putting jpgs in poll titles

Shtick Monthly (country matters), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 01:59 (sixteen years ago)

Hahahaha THAT's why polls are loco sometimes. Mystery solved!

Anyway BLOOD for fucking real. If it comes out with zero, remember my words!

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 02:17 (sixteen years ago)

can a MOd delete the .jpg, we need the votes!

Bee OK, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 02:19 (sixteen years ago)

here is the album cover:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51DV00XM0KL._SS500_.jpg

Bee OK, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 02:21 (sixteen years ago)

Can a mod make a poll so heavy not even a mod can move it?

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 02:21 (sixteen years ago)

seems like they can't fix that problem...:-(

Bee OK, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:43 (sixteen years ago)

I'm going to rep for "Kyoto Song" which apparently has no love here. "It's so smooth it even feels like skin" always gave me the creeps... the good creeps.

Lostandfound, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:47 (sixteen years ago)

I really love In Between Days, Push, Six Different Ways, Close to Me and A Night Like this but I think I have to vote for In Between Days.

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:49 (sixteen years ago)

Oh my god, that Bob Larson clip upthread is hilarious and classic, BlackIronPrison. I can see Negativland having a field day with that one. I'm also impressed at the sheer range of groups mentioned in the first link. I guess going after "satanic" music turns out to be a good way to get a musical education!

Born Again Atheist (Bimble), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:51 (sixteen years ago)

"A Night Like This", but this album is crowded with gems.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 06:09 (sixteen years ago)

"In Between Days" would win for me in most polls, so...

Mark G, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 13:47 (sixteen years ago)

I voted "In Between Days" too, but so many great songs.

rentboy, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 13:59 (sixteen years ago)

Really, the only song on here I have no time for is "Push".

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 14:03 (sixteen years ago)

"Sinking" is really the best of their synth-gunk ballads.

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 14:04 (sixteen years ago)

"The Baby Screams" is so so so great.

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 14:05 (sixteen years ago)

I'm going with "A Night Like This," but it almost went to "Push" and "The Baby Screams." Damn tough one, this.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 14:48 (sixteen years ago)

My first Cure album and concert (Radio City, November 1985). Will rep now and forever for "The Blood".

Capitaine Jay Vee, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:59 (sixteen years ago)

I could very happily vote for any song on this album except for "Push".

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:02 (sixteen years ago)

Then why are you voting for "Push"?

da croupier, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:38 (sixteen years ago)

don't make me find you

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:40 (sixteen years ago)

voting for "a night like this" but if "close to me" was the brass mix there'd be competition.

da croupier, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:43 (sixteen years ago)

You know I am actually totally fine w/sax on 'A Night Like This.'

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:52 (sixteen years ago)

Whenever I buy a can of soda from a soda machine, the sound of the can landing reminds me of the opening of "In Between Days." Still, I'm going "Six Different Ways."

First time I heard "Close to Me," I thought it sounded like The Cars. I just realized this past weekend that it has such tight percussion versus all the reverb etc. on the rest of the album.

Eazy, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 22:04 (sixteen years ago)

this was and still is one of my favorite cure albums. it was tough to choose, but i went with "the baby screams".

banity 6 (tricky), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 23:25 (sixteen years ago)

Whenever I buy a can of soda from a soda machine, the sound of the can landing reminds me of the opening of "In Between Days."

YES!!!

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 4 June 2009 01:55 (sixteen years ago)

Not a bad song on this one. I love short albums with no filler. For me it's between "Push", "Sinking", and "A Night Like This". "The Blood" needs more love too.

LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 4 June 2009 14:12 (sixteen years ago)

Whenever I buy a can of soda from a soda machine, the sound of the can landing reminds me of the opening of "In Between Days."

YES!!! (seconded)

I don't think my heart will let me vote for anything other than In Between Days. And Mrs Fiendish would kill me.

I do have a tremendous soft spot for Push, too ...

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 4 June 2009 14:17 (sixteen years ago)

voting for "a night like this" but if "close to me" was the brass mix there'd be competition.

^^^

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 4 June 2009 16:35 (sixteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hprQpOdr34

Bee OK, Friday, 5 June 2009 06:05 (sixteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIRXadMO1To

Bee OK, Friday, 5 June 2009 06:05 (sixteen years ago)

it's my birthday and this just seems right (my vote):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZZxwF6SXeQ&feature=related

Bee OK, Friday, 5 June 2009 06:15 (sixteen years ago)

Happy B-Day, Bee OK! Those are some damn fine clips there. Someone said you can't get In Orange on DVD now, is that right? I'm really disappointed to hear that cause I'd definitely buy it. I remember seeing it in a theater in my hometown when it came out and it was funny because the place wasn't even half full but you just knew whoever was there was cool as shit.

Crispy Ambulance Douchebag (Bimble), Saturday, 6 June 2009 04:09 (sixteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Saturday, 6 June 2009 23:01 (sixteen years ago)

Okay, wait a minute.

Did Robert Smith say at the beginning of the "Push" video "this is about when I used to wear a dress and travel on the train"?

Sullen - 1 a: gloomily or resentfully silent or repressed (Bimble), Sunday, 7 June 2009 09:21 (sixteen years ago)

Okay I've offically flipped over the version of Push on that clip. WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED FROM A MUSIC VIDEO/GROUP? What else do you need? He looks so young! Not even growing his hair long. Jesus christ.

Sullen - 1 a: gloomily or resentfully silent or repressed (Bimble), Sunday, 7 June 2009 09:32 (sixteen years ago)

Just when you think the song is over, he starts singing! Oh my god. This poll isn't even over yet.

Sullen - 1 a: gloomily or resentfully silent or repressed (Bimble), Sunday, 7 June 2009 09:33 (sixteen years ago)

AHHH NO I've flipped my lid! I've officially flipped my lid over the Cure. Why doesn't anyone here want to talk about them? Holy hell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joHcumCAkCM

Sullen - 1 a: gloomily or resentfully silent or repressed (Bimble), Sunday, 7 June 2009 18:36 (sixteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Sunday, 7 June 2009 23:01 (sixteen years ago)

Glad "Push" did so well and that every song got votes, although "Sinking" seems pretty low.

LeRooLeRoo, Monday, 15 June 2009 15:18 (sixteen years ago)

yeah - and so does "The Blood" (which is one of the overlooked gems in their catalogue)

baaderonixx, Monday, 15 June 2009 15:23 (sixteen years ago)

plz repost the poll results for us fail mods

sorry i poisoned u with nachos :( (HI DERE), Monday, 15 June 2009 15:28 (sixteen years ago)

Option Votes
1. In Between Days 18
8. Night Like This 13
5. Push 10
7. Close to Me 8
4. Six Different Ways 6
6. Baby Screams 4
2. Kyoto Song 4
3. Blood 3
10. Sinking 3
9. Screw 2

baaderonixx, Monday, 15 June 2009 15:29 (sixteen years ago)

Okay who are the awesome ppl who voted for "Screw"??? You are my new best friends!

sorry i poisoned u with nachos :( (HI DERE), Monday, 15 June 2009 15:30 (sixteen years ago)

Sorry, I voted for "Push."

Don't know if this is the right thread to post this on, but the other night I heard a cover version of "Just Like Heaven" on a smooth jazz station and it blew my mind.

barney kestrel (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 19 June 2009 20:25 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

you know, the secret detail that makes "Inbetween Days" so amazing is Boris's immaculate drumming, particularly the open hi-hat on 3 & 4 of every other measure

dense macabre (DJP), Thursday, 3 November 2011 17:30 (fourteen years ago)

I love this album. This and 'The Cure In Orange' were my twin gateway into this band. I would have voted for 'Push', personally, but every single track here has something that gets my attention. Even 'Screw', which to me is probably the weakest song on that album, features that heavy bass sound!

Turrican, Thursday, 3 November 2011 17:38 (fourteen years ago)

I was introduced to the bulk of Cure albums via an Italian lyric book that came with a "I'm a Cult Hero"/"I Dig You" 7" flexidisc. When I read the lyrics to "Push", I thought it was going to be an angry aggro freakout with lots of shrieking and angst, so hearing the bouncy sing-songy happy skipfest that is the actual song firmly engaged the same phobic reaction that made me hate The Smiths' "Girlfriend in a Coma" and I've never been able to get over it.

dense macabre (DJP), Thursday, 3 November 2011 17:44 (fourteen years ago)

Hehehehe... I can see why you'd think that. Personally though, that guitar riff that opens and closes the song has to be one of my favourite Cure guitar parts of all time. It manages to sound upbeat, yet still incredibly beautiful at the same time.

Turrican, Thursday, 3 November 2011 17:50 (fourteen years ago)

I really love In Between Days, Push, Six Different Ways, Close to Me and A Night Like this but I think I have to vote for In Between Days.

― Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Tuesday, June 2, 2009 11:49 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark

I am still glad I did. Although I do love Push as well. Damn, this really is a great album, huh?

I love this album. This and 'The Cure In Orange' were my twin gateway into this band. I would have voted for 'Push', personally, but every single track here has something that gets my attention. Even 'Screw', which to me is probably the weakest song on that album, features that heavy bass sound!

Awww, In Orange! I think I have a video of that concert somewhere. Like - a VHS.

Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Thursday, 3 November 2011 17:56 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, the very same! I think they only put out a laserdisc and a VHS of it... did they ever get around to putting out 'Orange' on DVD? I don't think they did, did they?

Turrican, Thursday, 3 November 2011 18:02 (fourteen years ago)

Push from Glastonbury '86 rules.

sleigh tracks (1933-1969) (MaresNest), Thursday, 3 November 2011 18:04 (fourteen years ago)

You know what I wish I still had? My Paris shirt. I only really wear band shirts to sleep in now but I still wish I had it. It was so awesome and soft and where on Earth did that go?!

Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Thursday, 3 November 2011 18:05 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DrjnffvVSQ

this is still one of my favorite Cure videos

dense macabre (DJP), Thursday, 3 November 2011 18:20 (fourteen years ago)

Tim Pope easily makes my top 5 favorite video directors.

da croupier, Thursday, 3 November 2011 18:44 (fourteen years ago)

That Top 5: Sophie Muller, Michel Gondry, Spike Jonze, Tim Pope, Tim Newman

da croupier, Thursday, 3 November 2011 18:49 (fourteen years ago)

It's interesting that it's Anton Corbijn who is the 'go-to' guy for music videos/photographs for artists who want to 'take their career to the next level' these days. Y'know, Coldplay have been using him recently - no doubt because of his work with U2 and because he sorted out Depeche Mode's image problem.

The Cure didn't need Anton Corbijn - they had Tim Pope and Parched Art.

Turrican, Thursday, 3 November 2011 18:51 (fourteen years ago)

I greatly prefer Pope to Corbijn, but I understand why most artists would rather look like Bono than dance with socks.

da croupier, Thursday, 3 November 2011 18:57 (fourteen years ago)

the story behind the socks is one of my favorites

you know, all three videos off of this album are amazing

dense macabre (DJP), Thursday, 3 November 2011 19:00 (fourteen years ago)

xpost:

Yeah, true. But thinking about Coldplay's recent artwork/marketing campaign for their latest record - which is all about graffiti and colour and whatnot... probably would have made sense for them to use Pope instead. Although I'm thanking whatever force is up there that they didn't.

Turrican, Thursday, 3 November 2011 19:01 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1yftp_cure-in-between-days_music

dense macabre (DJP), Thursday, 3 November 2011 19:02 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.timpope.tv/the_cure_close_to_me.html

dense macabre (DJP), Thursday, 3 November 2011 19:04 (fourteen years ago)

i really wish he'd gotten to make more videos with neil young. His Landing On Water clips are bananas.

da croupier, Thursday, 3 November 2011 19:08 (fourteen years ago)

the story behind the socks is one of my favorites

you know, all three videos off of this album are amazing

― dense macabre (DJP), Thursday, November 3, 2011 7:00 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

I completely agree! Another couple of Pope favourite is the video to 'The Caterpillar', and didn't he do the video for Talk Talk's 'Life's What You Make It' as well?

Turrican, Thursday, 3 November 2011 19:08 (fourteen years ago)

*favourites are

Turrican, Thursday, 3 November 2011 19:09 (fourteen years ago)

SO SMOOTH IT EVEN FEELS LIKE SKIN

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 November 2011 19:21 (fourteen years ago)

^^^^ one of my favorite lines

dense macabre (DJP), Thursday, 3 November 2011 20:09 (fourteen years ago)

"Sinking" is my favorite Cure synth-gush ballad.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 November 2011 20:12 (fourteen years ago)

'Sinking' is very very underrated... it's got one of those trademark Cure synth sounds on it as well, which has cropped up in stuff like 'Where The Birds Always Sing' amongst other songs...

Turrican, Thursday, 3 November 2011 20:17 (fourteen years ago)

Of course, the best songs from this time might be the "In Between Days" 12" b-sides....

Michael Train, Friday, 4 November 2011 03:49 (fourteen years ago)

"A Man Inside My Mouth"!

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 November 2011 04:21 (fourteen years ago)

"Throw Your Foot"!

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 November 2011 04:21 (fourteen years ago)

"Throw Your Foot" is excellent!!!

IT WOULD BE SO PERFECT!!! IF YOU WOULD JUST FALL OUT THE WINDOW!!!

always been a big fan of that track.

Turrican, Friday, 4 November 2011 04:58 (fourteen years ago)

A Man Inside My Mouth is in my top twenty Cure songs ever, maybe top 12

did they ever get around to putting out 'Orange' on DVD? I don't think they did, did they?

nope

٩(̾●̮̮̃̾•̃̾)۶ (sic), Friday, 4 November 2011 05:09 (fourteen years ago)

I didn't think so. It's a bit of a shame, really, because it's one of my favourite concert films. I definitely prefer it to 'Trilogy' (I only tend to watch one album at a time on that DVD, rather than the full thing - and it's usually the 'Pornography' set I choose to watch).

Turrican, Friday, 4 November 2011 05:26 (fourteen years ago)

none of their VHS releases have made it to DVD AFAIK. and the Greatest Hits DVD is pointless bcz a) incomplete and iirc b) shoddily mastered and c) taken from masters for the VHSes, so some clips end in a second or two of transition pieces from Staring At The Sea

٩(̾●̮̮̃̾•̃̾)۶ (sic), Friday, 4 November 2011 05:37 (fourteen years ago)

Robert also recently said that some Paris film from a few years ago (ie not "Paris") that no-one's ever heard of before will come out before the Reflections DVD that MY TAXES DAMMIT paid for...

٩(̾●̮̮̃̾•̃̾)۶ (sic), Friday, 4 November 2011 05:42 (fourteen years ago)

three years pass...

STRIKE ME
STRIKE ME
STRIKE ME DEEE-ADDD

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 January 2015 20:45 (ten years ago)

except "Six Different Ways" every song is amazing

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 January 2015 20:45 (ten years ago)

You misspelled "Push"

Let me help you out Charlie XCX fan (DJP), Saturday, 17 January 2015 20:50 (ten years ago)

I love every song on this album. If I had to make a choice or do a TS between this and Disintegration, this album would win.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Saturday, 17 January 2015 20:53 (ten years ago)

Push isn't so much a song but one little idea, but it's effective imo xp

Bee mOKa (rip van wanko), Saturday, 17 January 2015 20:54 (ten years ago)

"push" is my favorite thing here easy

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 17 January 2015 20:56 (ten years ago)

"we have this great riff, why do anything else to it"

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 17 January 2015 20:56 (ten years ago)

right. full disclosure as I was clicking this thread I was thinking "Dan and his GD 'Push' aversion" lol

Bee mOKa (rip van wanko), Saturday, 17 January 2015 20:58 (ten years ago)

"we have this great riff, why do anything else to it"

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson),

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 January 2015 20:59 (ten years ago)

I muttered this in a mail earlier this week regarding an article pitch about this album:

...this is more than just 'another great Cure album,' it's also a strangely unique one. Consider: it's their last 'short' album ever, their last one designed for a single slab of vinyl or cassette (everything else after that either doubles or is more and more aimed at the CD age and beyond -- they have NEVER had an album shorter than an hour since, much less forty minutes). And within that they have a crazy range, something that had been clearly going on The Top but given that was a glorified solo project, this feels more like a *band* stretching out, the more so because it is for a lot of folks the start of a classic lineup, though Smith gets the sole songwriter credit throughout. All the poppy singles in the previous two years build up to bigger pop moments, the deep cuts often sound richer, the harrowing extremes more harrowing, and it's still a slim ten-song punch. It deserves a lot more attention for itself, even with the profile it already has.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 17 January 2015 21:01 (ten years ago)

I read that Smith treated this album as if he were a composer giving material to a band instead of a functioning band recording and writing together (which KKK and Disintegration were).

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 January 2015 21:04 (ten years ago)

although it's my understanding that Smith really does write most of the music and just plays fair with composing credits.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 January 2015 21:04 (ten years ago)

I love The Head on the Door dearly but the idea that there are ANY harrowing extremes on it makes me giggle.

Let me help you out Charlie XCX fan (DJP), Saturday, 17 January 2015 21:05 (ten years ago)

Anyway, because of its brevity the band's penchant for repeating a motif without variation for several bars is more charming and effective than it ever will be again. Like Ned said, every song is a discrete entity, signaling directions for albums the band could have pursued.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 January 2015 21:05 (ten years ago)

I love The Head on the Door dearly but the idea that there are ANY harrowing extremes on it makes me giggle.

Tsk sir. (Nothing may have the cumulative impact of, say, Pornography itself, but "The Baby Screams" and "Sinking" do exist, and the fact that the album ends with "Sinking" always stuck out at me. It was almost like "Fight" two years later was a necessary corrective.)

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 17 January 2015 21:07 (ten years ago)

didn't they do "The Blood" on Unplugged in '90? That impressed me.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 January 2015 21:08 (ten years ago)

Everything on this album rather emphatically sounds like a pop song, I believe on purpose. There are points where the lyrics go out there but even then, Robert spends more time singing them rather than the extremes he goes through on The Top or on KM^3.

Let me help you out Charlie XCX fan (DJP), Saturday, 17 January 2015 21:10 (ten years ago)

Would have voted "Inbetween Days" but "Six Different Ways" is a close second.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 17 January 2015 21:11 (ten years ago)

In fact, it's that unrelenting pop sensibility that connects all of these disparate songs and makes them work so well together as an album; even though everything sounds different, there is a baseline accessibility that connects everything together.

Let me help you out Charlie XCX fan (DJP), Saturday, 17 January 2015 21:12 (ten years ago)

yeah it's basically Smith's pop album, hence its brevity. If you'd followed the band till this point you could see the clouds parting as those drums roll heralding "Inbetween Days."

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 January 2015 21:13 (ten years ago)

xposts -- A fair take! But I think it's also a way of how allowing the disparate songs musically and lyrically etc. to exist next to each other (and again, not totally unprecedented, thus The Top etc.) gives them greater gravity that might otherwise have existed. My terminology/emphasis may be out of place a bit but it functions still. In this regard the difference between this and Kiss Me lies in the concision.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 17 January 2015 21:13 (ten years ago)

also: "We have money."

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 January 2015 21:17 (ten years ago)

Record company dosh? You're soaking in it!

It's bugging me a bit, I'm trying to find a quote -- I want to say it was either Nabisco (OTM) or Douglas Wolk in one of their reissue reviews, but I'm not seeing it in a quick search -- about how when the Cure turned away from a truly playful sense of pop experimentation that describes 82 to 87, there was a phase that ended and never really returned. One thing I remember about the last album is how when "Freakshow" came out as a single there was a sense of "hey where has THIS Cure been for all this time?"

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 17 January 2015 21:18 (ten years ago)

i know ppl hate this movie but it had a few amazing bits in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCVH_rc6u6s

piscesx, Saturday, 17 January 2015 23:53 (ten years ago)

is it a mistake i wonder when he goes "this.. this is.. " i always thought it might be.

piscesx, Saturday, 17 January 2015 23:54 (ten years ago)

xp: Theresa Wayman from Warpaint at 2:38.

how's life, Sunday, 18 January 2015 01:05 (ten years ago)

when the Cure turned away from a truly playful sense of pop experimentation that describes 82 to 87, there was a phase that ended and never really returned. One thing I remember about the last album is how when "Freakshow" came out as a single there was a sense of "hey where has THIS Cure been for all this time?"

Yeah this is very much OTM - the main reason for the decline of the band post-Disintegration has been their loss of spontaneity, RS spending his time trying to second-guessing his audience. All the wacky pop singles since have seemed mostly fake and contrived compared to the unpredictability of their stuff 82-87

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 19 January 2015 10:58 (ten years ago)

Unreserved love for this entire album excepting "Screw" is a touch pointless ... and "Push" is actually Blondie's "Union City Blues", once heard the similarity cannot be unheard.
But yeah, "The Baby Screams" is probably the perfection of everything The Top was aiming for, the singles are untouchable, and I had a little "moment" in 2013 when I finally visited Kyoto and played THAT SONG (which is also untouchable).

MatthewK, Monday, 19 January 2015 12:42 (ten years ago)

Yeah this is very much OTM - the main reason for the decline of the band post-Disintegration has been their loss of spontaneity, RS spending his time trying to second-guessing his audience. All the wacky pop singles since have seemed mostly fake and contrived compared to the unpredictability of their stuff 82-87

It could be argued, now that I think about it, that part of RS's own particular impulses on this front have been channelled into the stream of one-offs, dance collaborations, etc. that has been happening constantly. Not all of them by any means

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 January 2015 13:20 (ten years ago)

four months pass...

It took me years but I finally picked up the Deluxe Edition reissue of Head on the Door recently (KMKMKM too), listening to the album again for the first time in quite a while confirmed for me that it's my least favourite of their 80s releases. It doesn't hang together as an album for me in the same way that the 1980-1984 records do, the sequencing feels kind of haphazard. The bad bits: Push (which I've never been able to stand - "depthlessly saccharine" as someone described it above perfectly), A Night Like This (possibly my least favourite Cure single) and I like both Screw and The Baby Screams but they feel kind of...unfinished, as though the genesis of a great idea was there that didn't quite reach fruition. That said, I think Six Different Ways, The Blood, Kyoto Song and Sinking are all absolute top-shelf Cure and the album version of Close To Me is really great. I think I like Stop Dead, The Exploding Boy and Man Inside My Mouth more than I do about half of the songs that made the album.

Onto KMKMKM!

Birds in Hell, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 00:16 (ten years ago)

The extras on The Head On the Door are fantastic.

Kiss Me... not as much.

austinato (Austin), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 00:29 (ten years ago)

yeah 100% agree with Birds in Hell. It's OK but always seemed a bit throwaway. 30 years later, it's the b-sides that I keep coming back to.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 08:13 (ten years ago)

but, but, INBETWEEN DAYS!
There is a fair bit of rubbish though - Birds in Hell OTM for most tracks.

MatthewK, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 12:27 (ten years ago)

Shit, just saw my January post of unreserved love. Clearly 2015 has done a number on me.

MatthewK, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 12:30 (ten years ago)

This is one of their best ever albums.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 13:57 (ten years ago)

This is where they started getting a bit duller (it is still quite good)

strangled whelps (imago), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 14:35 (ten years ago)

It's the last proper studio album in what I personally see as The Cure's "golden age" which began on their first album and ended with the release of the Standing On A Beach compilation. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me, Disintegration and Wish were/are all incredibly popular records, and there's some great music on them, but they're all overlong/overstuffed in a way that The Cure's 1979-1985 albums weren't. Wild Mood Swings onwards is strictly hardcore fan territory, but there's some great material in there.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 15:50 (ten years ago)

head on the door is not quite as good as the top but i love it a whole hell of a lot

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 17:40 (ten years ago)

I love The Top and have never understood why folks are so down on it, but The Head On The Door is just magnificent. That line-up of The Cure is the Cure line-up as far as I'm concerned.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 18:12 (ten years ago)

I love The Top. I think Cure fans generally do but music magazines always seemed to hate it.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 21:32 (ten years ago)

It's the last proper studio album in what I personally see as The Cure's "golden age" which began on their first album and ended with the release of the Standing On A Beach compilation.

HOTD is the last record where RS was the sole songwriter too, I think.

I love The Top and have never understood why folks are so down on it, but The Head On The Door is just magnificent. That line-up of The Cure is the Cure line-up as far as I'm concerned.

I adore The Top, that and Faith are my favourite Cure records. Definitely agree that the Head... line-up was their strongest, The Cure In Orange is just immense. I watched the VHS tape over and over and over when I was first discovering the band.

Birds in Hell, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 21:45 (ten years ago)

RS was never the sole songwriter.

austinato (Austin), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 21:54 (ten years ago)

If I remember the album credits correctly, HOTD is the only Cure album where RS acts as sole songwriter. He cowrote three of the songs on The Top with Lol.

DJP, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 21:55 (ten years ago)

Ah, perhaps I'm getting ahead of myself then - I presume I misread backwards from the HOTD album credits...

I'd be interested to hear more from the band now about Lol's contributions. In the Deluxe Edition booklets for HOTD and KMKMKM (circa 2006 or so), RS is still definitely sticking the boot into the guy about being drunk and useless but I've always wondered how much of that is actually true. They've clearly patched things up since, going by his appearance at the Reflections shows.

This interview with Lol from Keyboard magazine in 1987 paints a markedly different picture than his usual characterisation as 'the drunk buffoon who could barely play, he seems pretty switched on and knowledgeable: http://www.musicfanclubs.org/cure/press/I15.html

Birds in Hell, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 22:01 (ten years ago)

For lyrics, yes. Not song ideas though. Simon was always Robert's backboard.

austinato (Austin), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 22:44 (ten years ago)

Which, if any, of the reissues has In Orange in the bonus material? Has it ever been issued in audio-only form?

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 22:46 (ten years ago)

Nope, none.

austinato (Austin), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 22:55 (ten years ago)

Not as a whole, anyway. Couple tracks were single b-sides, but the whole concert has never been on DVD or reissued.

austinato (Austin), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 22:56 (ten years ago)

I said upthread that Robert Smith has always been generous about songwriting credits. He said that for KMKMKM he accepted ideas from others for the first time (e.g. "Fight" was Williams'). It wouldn't surprise me if he gave Tolhurst credit on those mid eighties sessions as reward for Tolhurt's loyalty.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 23:01 (ten years ago)

According to Roger O'Donnell, the genesis of 'Homesick' (from Disintegration) came from Lol. As to the exact nature of his contributions over the years, who knows? I mean, of course that's him drumming on the records from 1979-1982, but it does seem to be the case that he was off his face a lot from the mid '80s onwards, and the band used to bully him quite a lot as a result. I think Alfred is right that Smith was generous with songwriting credits, with the exception of Japanese Whispers and The Top (which feature songs which have Smith as the sole writer), and The Head On The Door (which has Smith as the sole writer throughout), most of the songs are credited to the entire band (whoever was officially in The Cure at the time)

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Thursday, 4 June 2015 00:25 (ten years ago)

It's easy to belittle a bandmate's contributions when he jumped or was pushed at the peak of acrimony.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 June 2015 00:29 (ten years ago)

Today is my birthday and looking at this thread sort of makes me sad as i see Bimble wished me happy birthday in this thread. RIP.

anyways some of you are so wrong, this is a classic album. the remastered version of this is incredible and made me appreciate all over again.

i voted for "Sinking" but these days my vote would be "Six Different Ways."

Bee OK, Thursday, 4 June 2015 01:23 (ten years ago)

Six different ways is amaaazing

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 4 June 2015 02:06 (ten years ago)

Yeah I didn't want to start nothing, so I backed off, but this album is a stone cold classic from beginning to end.

There's some really great, nearly shoegazey live versions of 'A Night Like This' from the Swing tour in the mid 90's.

austinato (Austin), Thursday, 4 June 2015 02:09 (ten years ago)

two months pass...

Me on the 30th anniversary:

http://thequietus.com/articles/18610-the-cure-head-on-the-door-review

Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 August 2015 13:38 (ten years ago)

Nice write-up! I still hate "Push"!

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:55 (ten years ago)

Hahah I was almost waiting for that.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 August 2015 15:56 (ten years ago)

I'll eternally find your dislike of 'Push' completely mystifying, DJP, even more so than your dislike of 'Domino Dancing'/Introspective... the guitar riff of 'Push' is just all-time for me, and it's one of those Cure songs that has stayed with me from the moment I first heard it!

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Monday, 24 August 2015 22:15 (ten years ago)

nice Ned, thanks for the link.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 01:38 (ten years ago)

The slurred introduction on In Orange sold me on Push.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 01:40 (ten years ago)

I love The Cure, I think their output up to and including Wish is pretty much unimpeachably wonderful, yet I too can't stand Push.

Birds in Hell, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 04:10 (ten years ago)

I can barely make out what Smith is saying in most of the song introductions on In Orange, bar the song titles!

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 16:47 (ten years ago)

Something about wearing a dress on the train or something?

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 16:47 (ten years ago)

i think he says 'this is a song about when i used to wear dresses and ride the train'

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 16:54 (ten years ago)

I think In Orange serves as a good introduction to the band as well as the first singles compilation does... it's a bit of a shame that it hasn't been re-released yet.

Is it September 3rd yet? (Turrican), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 17:16 (ten years ago)

NICE gonna listen to this during work today

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 17:18 (ten years ago)

Yeah, I think I'm going to give The Head On The Door a listen too... I expect I'll love it just as much as the other hundreds of times I've heard it. This album never, ever gets old for me.

I mean, is the Pitchfork '80s list really that fucking important? (Turrican), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 17:44 (ten years ago)

Played Head On The Door last night and loved it. Followed it up with Japanese Whispers. Nice combo.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 17:45 (ten years ago)

otm on the summer feeling of "In Between Days"

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 17:48 (ten years ago)

xpost:

Yeah, I completely agree! I've always been incredibly fond of Japanese Whispers... I know it's a compilation, but when I listen to it, I tend to listen to it front-to-back and I think it stands up well as a mini-album.

I don't particularly think it warrants that much discussion, to be qu (Turrican), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 17:49 (ten years ago)

five years pass...

Some mad genius has given 'The Cure In Orange' a once over via deinterlacing and it looks pretty decent. Not as good as a pro clean up job but you can't have everything can you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVS9EFUMUts

piscesx, Friday, 16 April 2021 15:22 (four years ago)

nice. love the version of 10.15 saturday night on there. push too!

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 16 April 2021 17:19 (four years ago)

Very lucky to see IN ORANGE at the Cinefamily in 35mm some years back with a great audience. The beginning with them walking in unison through a fog of dry ice like the gangstas they were at the time is just hysterical. People nearly gave a standing ovation for Lol’s 2 note keyboard solo on the “A Forest” outro

When Lol was promoting his memoir, he attended another screening (at the American Cinematheque’s Egyptian Theatre in Hollywood), but I didn’t catch it

beamish13, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 05:41 (four years ago)

That 4K interpolation looks TERRIBLE - I have a downloaded laserdisc rip which my TV upscales beautifully. Since I can't play my VHS tape any more.

assert (MatthewK), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 05:58 (four years ago)

four years pass...

Now 40 years old!

Bee OK, Monday, 1 September 2025 04:51 (three months ago)

Hate that I can't see what I voted for, YouTube link is scrubbed out. I'm sure it was "A Night Like This."

Bee OK, Monday, 1 September 2025 04:59 (three months ago)

'Push' is great, down with the haterz :)

Maresn3st, Monday, 1 September 2025 09:10 (three months ago)

What a good album

I think the single mix of close to me is superior otherwise i would probably vote for it here

Hm this is really tough but probably Kyoto Song

Cod:Shellfish (emsworth), Monday, 1 September 2025 11:05 (three months ago)

Push' is great, down with the haterz :)

;_;

our beloved RIFF LORD (DJP), Monday, 1 September 2025 12:18 (three months ago)

For always and ever

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 1 September 2025 13:28 (three months ago)

By coincidence I bought a t shirt of the album cover last week, I LOVE it. Can’t believe I’ve been listening to this for forty years.

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 1 September 2025 13:29 (three months ago)

Phenomenal album, fully delivers on Robert's intention to make something multifarious, a 'Cure variety half-hour'. Fantastic B-sides too. If I have anything controversial to say then it's that the only sorta weak link for me is A Night Like This, which is good but I prefer All I Want when it comes to that sort of Cure track.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 1 September 2025 13:45 (three months ago)

!

hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 September 2025 14:00 (three months ago)

Glastonbury 1986 has always been my favourite live recording, brilliant versions of several HotD songs, especially Sinking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzJSGHdeYmI

Maresn3st, Monday, 1 September 2025 16:11 (three months ago)

I stand by my piece for the 30th anniversary

https://thequietus.com/opinion-and-essays/anniversary/the-cure-head-on-the-door-review/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 September 2025 17:23 (three months ago)

Love this album so much, from the first time I heard it, and it has not wavered. Still play it all the way through. Love the variety; love every song. Top 20 all-time under 40 minute album for me.

nicky lo-fi, Monday, 1 September 2025 19:55 (three months ago)

A 45 min video essay on the HotD 40th anniversary just popped up on my YT feed, some American guy, looks a bit tl:dr tbh

Maresn3st, Monday, 1 September 2025 21:47 (three months ago)

Tour for this album was my first of many times seeing them and it was incredible.

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 1 September 2025 21:51 (three months ago)

xxxp would agree that A Night Like This is the worst track here, real stogy plod - even worse when played by later, less capable line-ups

Cod:Shellfish (emsworth), Monday, 1 September 2025 21:51 (three months ago)

It’s great when you crank it up, a really doomy grind to the chord progression. Also the video is the peak of their 80s look.

xxxp it’s that American voice again

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 1 September 2025 21:55 (three months ago)

I can’t even comprehend disliking “A Night Like This” let alone finding it the worst song on the album

our beloved RIFF LORD (DJP), Monday, 1 September 2025 23:13 (three months ago)

this album having a "worst" song is like the ice cream shop having a "worst" flavor: even the bad ones are still decent.

austinato (Austin), Tuesday, 2 September 2025 01:42 (three months ago)

My kids routinely get Superman ice cream and there’s no amount of money you could pay me to try that flavor.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 2 September 2025 02:16 (three months ago)

This album is so great. I voted for at least half of it in the Cure tracks poll, maybe more. Good review, Ned! Totally agree that this is the start of a whole era for them. I think of it, Kiss Me and Disintegration as more or less a trilogy in terms of themes and musical explorations.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 2 September 2025 02:34 (three months ago)

Thotd sounds like Robert Smith has just put together the best lineup of his band and knows it and is giddy about the musical horizons that it opens up

i love lol’s drumming and Andy Anderson’s too for that matter - but imagine getting Boris Williams in your band and hearing how everything just lifts (and how good he sounds playing against Simon Gallup too)

Cod:Shellfish (emsworth), Tuesday, 2 September 2025 07:51 (three months ago)

Screw is easily and obviously the worst song on this. HoTD has always been 2nd tier for me (and I would probably swap in most of the bsides)

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 10:25 (three months ago)

Screw rules a lot. That bass is wonderful

our beloved RIFF LORD (DJP), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 10:33 (three months ago)

i really like Screw too - it feels like some sort of compositional game-playing went on, “let’s see if we can construct a song around this most ridiculous bass riff”

would also say it has some of the demented quality of the era’s b-sides (which i agree were very strong, although i think the album as is was very well-sequenced and the b-sides are very happy being b-sides)

Cod:Shellfish (emsworth), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 20:51 (three months ago)

Yeah Screw is a b-side that crept onto the album, it would be more loved if it was switched with “A Man Inside My Mouth” (which should absolutely be on the album)

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 21:08 (three months ago)

Screw is the spiritual predecessor to Drone:Nodrone

our beloved RIFF LORD (DJP), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 21:19 (three months ago)

and of Freakshow, I guess. So much to answer for

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 4 September 2025 07:09 (three months ago)

So much awesome to beget, you mean

Although I don’t really hear that much Screw in Freakshow, I find that closer in spirit to Throw Your Foot and A Man Inside My Mouth. I suppose they’re all in the same neighborhood though.

our beloved RIFF LORD (DJP), Thursday, 4 September 2025 12:40 (three months ago)


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