does jay-z's new song "death of auto-tune" mark the actual death of auto-tune?

I just heard this on the radio.. I had no idea it was Jay-Z, but I agreed with everything he said.

trends die because they're replaced by newer trends, not because of backlash

that said, this coulda been dope if the beat, vocals and/or lyrics reflected the aggression of the concept like, at all

I had no idea it was Jay-Z

really?

Jayz probably not the ideal person to be making pronouncements on what's hot and what's not

this coulda been dope if the beat, vocals and/or lyrics reflected the aggression of the concept like, at all

Couldn't say it better myself.

Cranky old man complains about these kids today, film at 11...

noodle otm... but autotune is kind of lame now i agree... the offical jump the shark moment for autotune is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4vxotdYliA

I LOVE the beat for Jay's song tho... does anyone know what the sample is?

i didn't hear it as "these kids today" as much as i heard "commercialization is wack" .. sorry i forgot this is ilm and no one will ever agree that the current trends are wrong.

for reference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meNF7ZagM0A

T-Pain's "Karaoke" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this song

although both have the same problem of being too soft and ultimately going "kanye's my buddy, though, he can keep doing it" and not really taking aim at even the much easier targets

for reference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMB7VO-aOuU

i forgot this is ilm and no one will ever agree that the current trends are wrong

Yeah ILM is wall to wall pie-eyed poptimists eh? You're probly right tho, multi-millionaire businessman Jay-Z is probably decrying commercialism here.

this IS sinatra at the opera!

it's nice for kanye that he gets to be the autotune posterboy and produce the autotune backlash record

janko nilovic - "in the space" is the sample, brainwasher. via stereogum, of all places

thanks. btw I thought No I.D. produced this, not Kanye...

yeah i picked up on the irony that jay-z is the ceo of a corporation.. but that also means he's highly influential.

and yes i picked up on the irony that kanye, whose last album was entirely leaning on auto-tune as a crutch, helped produce blueprint 3..

All this thread has done so far is convince me to never hear this song.

thanks. btw I thought No I.D. produced this, not Kanye...

― Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Monday, June 8, 2009 4:29 PM (1 minute ago)

co-produced

he had me until he rhymed "melody" with "felony"

xxpost

The song's pretty good btw.

according to fakeshoredrive the beat is entirely no i.d.'s

haven't heard anything else from blueprint 3 yet, but regarding kanye..

he seems like the type of dude who's big-headed enough to think his last album is the end-all of autotune.. as if he took it to a level of artistic greatness that will remain unmatched, and that any future usage of this in hiphop production will only be used to appease pop audiences, and not hiphop listeners. .. i wouldn't be surprised if he's finished with it altogether.

yeah...most of his last dozen or so guest appearances have been w/o autotune, he's probably gonna leave it alone on the next album he does

i dont really think this beat is that good

I'm trying to figure out if that's a 60s soprano sax or Hot Butter Follies of 1929.

It's like he's saying:
You can make it funky
Because I am going to make this one clunky
You can take the top 40
Because Iam going to make a song that has no melody

exhibit 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBRPSlb-VZY

exhibit 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBb4cjjj1gI

the four examples in this thread are like the four horsemen of the autotune apocalypse

"buy u a drank" is still pretty awesome tho

soft rock sax/corny guitar licks/"nah nah nah hey hey goodbye" << yo stomach

oh some dude already made that point

I kinda like brokencyde tho

it's hard to make music so irritating and I respect that

does jay-z's new song "death of auto-tune" mark the actual death of auto-tune? jay's career

I kinda like brokencyde tho

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/b/b5/Exploding-head.gif

don't really care about the whole auto-tune debate but damn No ID killed the beat on this. real nice : )

i live with two people who play whiney autotune bullshit all day long. shakeshead.gif.

wish he'd gone with a "meaningless songs in very high voices"-style parody instead of his usual weathered swagger over panoramic beat thing.

old man yells at cloud .jpg

this would've been something noteworthy if he did it a year ago but autotune's already cannibalized itself like 5 times over now and that's not even to mention that the hottest song in the country is drake's autotune r&b thing

I think everyone here is underestimating the weight of this song. Check any hip-hop news site and it's practically the only thing anyone has been talking about since Friday night- with a overwhelmingly positive response (honestly, people have been complaining about autotune for so long, it's a surprise that it took this long for someone to actually build a song around the theme). At this rate, DOA could end up being the hip hop equivalent of Smells Like Teen Spirit, in the sense that it so totally destroys the trend of the moment that no one will ever be able to use autotune ever again. Look for hip hop to get darker and less pop-oriented (on the whole) by the end of the year.

practically assault with a deadly weapon

yeah whatever jigga

this beat will be freestyled over a lot

Melody always wins. This won't shut down "Whatever You Like."

At this rate, DOA could end up being the hip hop equivalent of Smells Like Teen Spirit, in the sense that it so totally destroys the trend of the moment that no one will ever be able to use autotune ever again.

dude...you're overthinking some shit but i dont see how a rapper who most people agree has been off his game for a good half decade can come back with a wack "statement track" and expect to change the course of the genre. there's still plenty of paper to be made using autotune so it's not going anywhere

dude, auto-tune exhibit #2 on this thread >>>> jay-z's boring frumpy "death of autotune"

I think everyone here is underestimating the weight of this song. Check any hip-hop news site and it's practically the only thing anyone has been talking about since Friday night- with a overwhelmingly positive response (honestly, people have been complaining about autotune for so long, it's a surprise that it took this long for someone to actually build a song around the theme). At this rate, DOA could end up being the hip hop equivalent of Smells Like Teen Spirit, in the sense that it so totally destroys the trend of the moment that no one will ever be able to use autotune ever again. Look for hip hop to get darker and less pop-oriented (on the whole) by the end of the year.

― makeitpop, Monday, June 8, 2009 5:45 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is the worst post on ilm this year - i hope we're being trolled

Yeah maybe this will be like when that guy did that "Disco Sucks" protest and now Disco's been totally destroyed and no one has ever used Disco ever again.

makeit*plop*

Oh man remember when TLC did "No Scrubs" and now there's like no scrubs anywhere oh man maybe it's gonna be like that.

and tbh jay's too much of a businessman to do anything with an edge right now - he should've called people out

this song is better than "doa" and will be bigger in nyc this summer than "doa"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0QIS4u3jrk

um, I would say that at this point a really fresh sounding R&B single with some new nifty studio thing could send the fashion for autotune into tailspin, I kinda do think people in general are getting over it.

like, I feel like it already has a period sound

Melody always wins. This won't shut down "Whatever You Like."

― Eazy, Monday, June 8, 2009 10:50 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

let's not get all geir about it

yeah there wasn't a huge, autotune-using hit recently or anything

xxpost

people jay has history with that he should've called out for using autotune as a career parachute:

- ron browz
- juelz santana
- jim jones

jay is a nyc centric big deal anyway and imo the buzz re "doa" if he rekindled the dipset beef would've been untoppable for a while

um, not disputing that autotune is not still a sound that is all over the radio, just that the moment is kinda right for something to knock it off its perch

lol u sound like a republican trying to figure out how to win back the senate majority or something

get used to it dogg

um, why would he rekindle the dipset beef? dipset barely exists anymore and he's JAY-Z

this is soooooooo stupid

autotune probably only has a short time left anyway, jay z or no...seems like it's hit critical mass

um, why would he rekindle the dipset beef? dipset barely exists anymore and he's JAY-Z

― Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Monday, June 8, 2009 6:04 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

cuz it would've been cool for jay to not have been a pussy re this song

all this said i think it's smart for jay to align himself with aging rap heads who think autotrash is doing irreparable harm to the genre - they're the only people who care about him anyway - kids don't care about autobeef cuz they're too busy dancing

juelz and jim are making the worst faces in all their videos nowadays i wanna punch them so bad.

plus trying to dress up poor lil' deformed un kasa in club attire? jeezo beezo. he looks like E.T. tryin to be rick ross

why would you want to alienate "the kids"??????

autotune has been good, it has led to some great pop songs and made a few more interesting. obviously a ton of it has been terrible, but fuck him for being mad at kids being more creative than he is. as if he hasn't co-opted any trends in the past year

kids don't care about autobeef cuz they're too busy dancing

― let free dom ring (J0rdan S.), Monday, June 8, 2009 11:09 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^always love the "too busy dancing" thing on internet messageboards btw

he doesn't wear skinny jeans!!

I think everyone here is underestimating the weight of this song. Check any hip-hop news site and it's practically the only thing anyone has been talking about since Friday night- with a overwhelmingly positive response (honestly, people have been complaining about autotune for so long, it's a surprise that it took this long for someone to actually build a song around the theme). At this rate, DOA could end up being the hip hop equivalent of Smells Like Teen Spirit, in the sense that it so totally destroys the trend of the moment that no one will ever be able to use autotune ever again. Look for hip hop to get darker and less pop-oriented (on the whole) by the end of the year.

― makeitpop, Monday, June 8, 2009 5:45 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

I seem to have missed the part of "Smells Like Teen Spirit" where Kurdt was slagging off hair metal.

im pretty sure a majority of people under 21 prefer dancing to dj webstar and ron browz to 2009 jay-z rap songs

autotune is one of the worst sounds on the planet imo : /

he doesn't wear skinny jeans!!

― let free dom ring (J0rdan S.), Monday, June 8, 2009 11:11 PM (27 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

actually saw jay last week and he was dressed like kanye or some shit...he's grown out to a little mini-fro and was wearing skinnier jeans and a leather jacket w/no collar and wearing the classic ray ban blues bros. sunglasses

im pretty sure a majority of people under 21 prefer dancing to dj webstar and ron browz to 2009 jay-z rap songs

― let free dom ring (J0rdan S.), Monday, June 8, 2009 11:12 PM (5 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yes but a "vast majority" of ppl under 21 don't care about ron browz either...also it's just "too busy dancing" is sorta like one of those "this song is totally like a hot night of fucking" kinda b.s. imo

all i have to say is holy shit, NoI.D. is still alive and producing

i think there are people who are too busy dancing to autotune songs on weekends to care about 2009 jay-z raps - not exactly sure what hot nights of fucking has to do with anything

no i.d. has been producing tons of shit for the past few years

also there's really nothing to say on this thread other than:

1) nice beat

2) typical nu-Jay "okay-ish" rapping

3) look forward to some freestyles over the DOA beat

4) will not affect auto-tune and it's usage in pop music one iota

5) seems about as good as we can expect from jay-z nowadays

6) young people like being free and wild in the streets and tripping the light fantastic with rod browz

calling nu-jay "okay-ish" is pretty generous

ah you know i'm generally generous with jay

honestly tho I'm tired of autotune, not because I think it's ruining rap and I want that "real schitt" back, just that it's annoying now and I want a new sound.

"dancin on me" goes hard tho

generally generous = dope

brainwasher otm

yeah, for sure, it's just a little too ubiquitous

ah had to check some remixes already...

jay-z feat. AZ if you wanna hear an old tyme days of yore pewter miniature early 90s cat that's actually kept his shit tight to this day flow over it...

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/audio/id.7817/title.jay-z-f-az-d-o-a-rmx

jay rock nu-west coast!

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/audio/id.7815/title.jay-rock-d-o-a-freestyle

Autotune as a gimmick would have been over by the end of the summer anyhow, but this song now makes it's presence on any new tracks seem awkward.

Bit like when he did that Death To False Metal song with Linkin Park then?

Autotune as a gimmick would have been over by the end of the summer anyhow, but this song now makes it's presence on any new tracks seem awkward.

― makeitpop, Monday, June 8, 2009 7:30 PM (5 minutes ago)

stop trolling, how does a washed up rapper like jay have that kind of power

More annoyed at Kanye think that mediocre album he made once would be *the* autogoon album and now he's washed his hands of it, everyone should follow. Jay has been LOLd man for years anyway.

i would miss autotuner pop if it disappeared. like, what would taxi drivers play at 3 in the morning?

just as "disco sucks" did more to change fashion than halt the rise of programmed dance beats, there will be plenty of auto-tune on tracks but it's possible/hopeful fewer rappers will go Full Troutman after this.

x-post I think Jay-z has been past-prime from the Blueprint on, but his last album went double platinum at a time when few rappers can make that claim. he just signed that ginormous LiveNation deal, and it's hard to imagine anyone would turn down a cameo. To be all "whatever he's washed up" like it's Ice-T vs. Soulja Boy is pretty absurd.

Ice-T on Law & Order > anything Jay's done in the past 5 years

i would miss autotuner pop if it disappeared. like, what would taxi drivers play at 3 in the morning?

― samosa gibreel, Monday, June 8, 2009 11:45 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

NPR?

biz markie right?

so if he absolved lil wayne and kanye west (who btw were BY FAR the worst abusers of autotune and both made albums with ONLY autotune tracks) who exactly is this track aimed at? what rappers besides them are "t-paining it"???

juelz and jim jones hop on tracks with autotune on the hooks. ron browz was a producer and now he's a singer.

who

sensual seduction?

juelz and jim jones hop on tracks with autotune on the hooks

even for a dipset stan this is a pretty fishy revision of history

Don't play dumb. Even if his last couple albums weren't critical milestones or whatever, he's still one of the biggest names in hip-hop.

And if you don't think it'll have any impact on the autotune crowd, look at this sad video of T-Pain pleading his case at Summer Jam over the weekend:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAHoCd6Wc9g

whatever they steal tracks, etc, thats not really the issue here, the issue is whether they stopped rapping and started singing at some point with autotune effect

which they didnt

da croupier otm. i think there's a certain level of out-of-touchness being demonstrated by people in this thead, but in a weird way. kind of like we're assuming people are more ahead of the curve than they really are. i worked in a calling center for the past few months and to my more thuggin coworkers, it was like eminem, weezy and jay z were the ruling class of hip hop in 2009. which to me was like, really? eminem? but they loved relapse and american gangster, as well as a bunch of auto-tuner hits of course, but still this shake things up a bit.

T-Pain pleading his case at Summer Jam

summer jam doesnt exist outside of the internet and the 5 boroughs + nj

you really think kids are running around buying jayz ringtones over t-pain.

that fucking doom track about autotune is so bad

the point is that they're a pretty big example of rappers using autotune to keep their careers alive - pray IV reign might've sold 25,000 copies if it didn't catch buzz off of "pop champagne"

god i love when ILX talks about the kids

no one is denying that jay sells albums but he just exists like U2 does - sells a lot of records but it's not like people are copping the moves that he is making in 2009

uh lots of bands are ripping off U2 right now, actually

Most probably more records influenced by the ILX 2009 U2 album than the 2009 U2 album, as far as I can tell.

im saying that U2 once had cultural capital but now they don't - same thing with jay, even though both do more than their part to keep the industry afloat

if U2 made fun of Coldplay's Les Mis outfits or the Killers mustaches you can bet Coldplay and the killers wouldn't be wearing them much longer. The response wouldn't be "aw muthafucka you just ain't ready for the stache nation" because its a frivolous aspect of their shtick. jay-z's track isn't The Killing Shot In The War On Autotune, just an established figure of respect saying that a fashion should pass, which does mean more than when a blogger says it, even if people are going to continue and making heavily produced candyass pop songs.

continue buying and making, I mean

The point isn't that summer jam appearances can change the direction of music, but that the song made T-Pain nervous enough to make an awkward public plea for Jay's pardon. And in the end, that's what's going to kill autotune as a gimmick. It won't be ringtone consumers asking for it to go away, it'll be singers and rappers being too embarrassed to use it again because they don't want to look like they're on the losing team.

im saying that U2 once had cultural capital but now they don't - same thing with jay, even though both do more than their part to keep the industry afloat

I'm pretty sure that if Bono told Brandon Flowers to drop the sequined shoes he'd not only drop them, he'd proudly tell the Rolling Stone interviewer about the chat.

The taunt needs a melody. J complains, you can just autotune sing-song back to him.

I am all for someone making an angry "in defense of autotune" track, however

also there really should be a distinction between the "correct" use of autotune and the "i am a sexy robot" thing the former is obviously not going anywhere.

yeah, croupier, but yr analogy hinges on U2's influence on, like, ~coldplay~ and ~the killers~. they might be able to get them to stop dressing like pirates, but i guarantee it wouldn't mean anything to all of the hipster dudes i see with mustaches and antique suspenders or whatever

I am all for someone making an angry "in defense of autotune" track, however

who would write it?

The point isn't that summer jam appearances can change the direction of music, but that the song made T-Pain nervous enough to make an awkward public plea for Jay's pardon. And in the end, that's what's going to kill autotune as a gimmick. It won't be ringtone consumers asking for it to go away, it'll be singers and rappers being too embarrassed to use it again because they don't want to look like they're on the losing team.

― makeitpop, Monday, June 8, 2009 7:11 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

i can't even comprehend your posts - autotune will die when a new fad catches on and lets marginally talented rappers start/continue careers

while it is possible that the hipster autotuners will continue to make sexy robot tracks willy nilly, when someone respected says something is embarrassing it is not unprecedented for it to have an effect.

"Green Light" was kind of the opposite of a 2008 autotune track.

debating whether or not this track is a hearty smack-down or a pitiful stab at relevance is sort of a waste of time, imo. if anything, it's just him realizing that this shit will pass ~anyway~ and capitalizing on the chance to make it seem like he had something to do with it

also Jay-Z today is more '90s U2 in stature. They've been an Institution for a lot longer.

x-post ding ding though anybody suggesting anything is a waste of time in ILM is a waste of time.

I mean people debate the worst song on Beach Boys albums no one owns here

ha, yeah, forgot myself for a moment there

i just think jay knows that anytime he leaks a new "single" it whips up a frenzy and he just picked the easiest target he could to make this bigger than the leak of "blue magic" - it's not a coincidence that he did this summer jam weekend - i think he just really misses being the center of attention

Of course autotune will die and be replaced by something else, that's the story of every fad since the beginning of pop music. I think this is particularly interesting though, because Jay's song might actually have a tangible effect on the course of pop/hip-hop music in 2009. Sure, songs that are already hits might still remain hits, but from here on out, it's hard to imagine anyone getting in the recording booth and requesting the autotune effect without a conversation about this song taking place.

Let me put it this way, I don't think T-Pain's next single will feature autotune, and I think it will be a direct result of this song.

You could've put anyone else's name in that space and it might be true, but T-Pain will always use autotune and noone will ever tell him to stop because he's just way better at it than everyone who's done it in his wake.

oh fuck off

thread

Of course autotune will die and be replaced by something else, that's the story of every fad since the beginning of pop music. I think this is particularly interesting though, because Jay's song might actually have a tangible effect on the course of pop/hip-hop music in 2009. Sure, songs that are already hits might still remain hits, but from here on out, it's hard to imagine anyone getting in the recording booth and requesting the autotune effect without a conversation about this song taking place.

― makeitpop, Monday, June 8, 2009 7:23 PM (30 seconds ago) Bookmark

the first commercial single from blueprint 3 is going to feature drake whose autotune r&b single is the hottest song in america right now. if people start to use autotune less it's because they already have, it would be jay catching the absolute tail end of the curve - but if you think rappers like plies are going to stop collaborating with t-pain cuz jay said "death to autotune" you are crazy

Plus, y'know, he already made his big "lookit ma no autotune" statement with the song i embedded way upthread

xpost

u r something else, dude xps to makeitlol

Let me put it this way, I don't think T-Pain's next single will feature autotune, and I think it will be a direct result of this song.

― makeitpop, Monday, June 8, 2009 7:24 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

jesus you are a retard

yr like those kids that get all sad-faced about missing vietnam or woodstock or something

I think this is particularly interesting though, because Jay's song might actually have a tangible effect on the course of pop/hip-hop music in 2009.

Kanye and T-Pain want you to explain your retarded argument.

where were you when jay-z killed autotune

http://shenews.projo.com/07/johnjohn.jpg

Hasn't T-Pain already said he wants to record less with autotune?

I still resent that Jay didn't provide other rappers the precedent of truly retiring on top, but if he's going to keep making shit he might as well give it a news hook like this rather than record "I'm Still Hova" or something. The only reason I'd have any beef with this track outside of the standard qualms with later Jay-Z is if LL Cool J was planning to drop some autotune love jams and now he won't. But god, let a rapper talk trash!

T-Pain rapped w/o autotune for years when he wasn't famous, and still does occasionally and for the most part people either don't like it as much as the autotune stuff, or don't even notice that he dropped it for a second.

Autotune was definitely reaching the end of it's cycle anyway, but I have a hard time believing that anyone is going to go out of their way to use it after this. I don't care who uncool you think Jay is, he still carries more clout than almost any other rapper out, in terms of sales and overall influence. And does Best I Ever Had really use autotune an an effect? If so, it seems pretty subtle (and it's irrelevant anyway, since it was recorded and released before DOA dropped).

Of course autotune will die and be replaced by something else, that's the story of every fad since the beginning of pop music.

dang you know i think you're right~~~

a ton of producers/MCs just bought their plugin in the last 6 months, they're not gonna let that investment collect dust now just yet

wayne has another huge hit that's like 100% autotune - i doubt it will be his last

are the kids going to love rebirth, jordan?

yeah good example of autotune on a rap song

Did I say it was? I just asked a question.

Don't try to take me to a disco
I'd rather hear some blues or funky old soul

t-pain's success has had less to do with autotune than with the fact that he's a genius

anthony i have no idea what you're asking unless you misunderstood my post to say that wayne will have hits off of rebirth - not what i meant

btw: death of "doa"

taylorswift13 If I said I was in the studio with T-Pain, would you believe me?
26 minutes ago from web

i dunno man...he's definitely a resourceful guy and maybe w/o that one gimmick he'd find another and be just as big, but somehow i doubt it.

xpost

that's like saying jimi hendrix's success has had less to do with the electric guitar than with the fact that he's a genius

x-post yeah i just assumed wayne's next hit would be on his next album, sorry!

wait so t-pain is never using autotune again???

no it's not wtf. t-pain is a singer not an autotunist jeeesus

has t-pain tried singing thru a megaphone? that style is ready for a comeback.

Uh, to most people T-Pain is a synonym for autotune. I'm sure he's a super talented dude and everything but if autotune became toxic tomorrow, he's the guy whose management time would be going into crisis mode.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3092/2602549756_9c76726502.jpg?v=0

wayne having huge radio hits that actually are on his current studio album has happened like a handful of times out of dozens of songs in the past few years, though.

i agree with others though, it was cowardly of jay-z not to call-out cher by name.

http://www.cherworld.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/cher-2007-portrait-co-fred-nassiri.jpg

you still aren't addressing its effect on brokencyde, which is the u&k issue here

is brokencyde's management in crisis mode? god I hope not.

the losers here are people that are excited about a guy releasing a rap song bidding farewell to a pro tools plug-in...and jay-z

it's not a pro-tools plug-in, it's a lifestyle.

It's hard to go back to scrubbing the sink once you've found a robot who will do it for you.

death of amplifier-distortion

guy who yelled "Judas!" is yet another thing that >>>> this song

dear ILM,

this thread is gay

- rev

to be serious for a minute, i think this was a gutsy move on jay's part. who knows, next year might find him giving the gasface to m.c. hammer or resurrecting the great "anti-looping" debate of '91.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzXI_ApY4dY

taylorswift13 If I said I was in the studio with T-Pain, would you believe me?
26 minutes ago from web

^this is the best thing to come from my reading this thread

even though "auto-tune" has totally entered the popular lexicon (and is used as shorthand for vocal effects besides auto-tune), it's still kinda weird to hear a rap song talking about a software plug-in

is autotune going to be the cheesy thing everyone remembers about '00s music

yeah...i was thinking about it and in a perverse way it's nice that people are debating some concrete aspect of the music and how it's made, instead of just scapegoating some vague concept like "bling"

h8 when jay-z gets meta

I have always believed in life after love.

honestly i'm kinda surprised noone's redone "Believe" in a T-Pain style yet... it's not like Flo Rida's last couple singles haven't been just as ridiculous as that would be.

i dont really think this beat is that good

― autogucci cru (deej), Monday, June 8, 2009 4:54 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

otm! I love janko nilovic and you'd have to look pretty hard on his records to find shit as corny as some of that soft sax/clarinet bizness on here

not to get off topic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZBwSqLYuCA&

now that hes killed autotuen he can get to killin twitter

to answer the thread question: "no, probably not. but i like the song anyway, despite the bullshit surrounding it"

Usually when someone proclaims that something is "dead", then it's already been dead for quite some time.

hopefully blueprint 3 is 1/2 him getting all peeved about stuff like this, 1/4 bragging about all the expensive shit he has. and 1/4 bragging about beyonce

if he can pull it off in a convincing way with the right beats, this could be huge

(am i kidding? i don't even know anymore)

does jay-z's new song "death of auto-tune" mark the actual death of auto-tune?

about as much as lenny kravitz's rock and roll is dead marked the death of rock n roll.

did anybody ever write a song titled "crunk ain't dead"?

maybe cocorosie can tackle that one

ha, actually reading through this thread is great distracting fun when, really, i should be writing about Rancid

does jay-z's new song "death of auto-tune" mark the actual death of auto-tune?

about as much as lenny kravitz's rock and roll is dead marked the death of rock n roll.

See also: Nas, Hip Hop Is Dead.

Killer Mike feat. T-Pain "Ruby Soho"

im releasing a track called death of ILM next year

I wanna hear the rest of the album. The song will be more influential if Blueprint 3 contains some actual top 40 hits.

"Rock is dead" or "hiphop is dead" are not really saying the same thing as this.. Auto-tune is merely an element used in dance music, and not a broad genre category.

That "Wonderwall" cover would've sounded great through autotune.

did anybody ever write a song titled "crunk ain't dead"?

― Beatrix Kiddo, Tuesday, June 9, 2009 6:28 AM Bookmark

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_vXhVGx51WYI/SLYSugbkCAI/AAAAAAAABqY/58ChhsJ7Ero/s400/liljon.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_vXhVGx51WYI/SLYSugbkCAI/AAAAAAAABqY/58ChhsJ7Ero/s400/liljon.jpg

MC Hammer talking about needing Jay-Z to sign some autotune waivers for him on twitter is pretty funny.

"MC Hammer talking about needing Jay-Z to sign some autotune waivers for him on twitter is pretty funny."

i may have to at least watch the first ep of hammer's new show based on that

Crunk was more fun than auto-tune and needs a comeback.

possibly; ridiculously premature

crunk never really left, though, we're just surrounded by a lot of post-crunk that hast most of the basic elements without Lil Jon or some of the other more obvious signifiers

otm

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/crunks_not_dead.jpg

Twitter rebuttals:

Jim Jones
http://twitter.com/jimjonescapo/status/2075624007

DJ Webstar
http://twitter.com/DJWebstar/status/2061445275

kind of impressive to burn up 6 characters on saying "lol" twice in one tweet

my mans trey songz jumps into the mix:

http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2009/06/topic/topic/beef/trey-songz-death-of-autotune-kellz-diss/

ugh

rap in 2009: front-page new york times beef about software

man I remember when rap battles were all about shooting fools, this is shameful

http://www.deathofauto-tune.com/

Full Troutman

A+

Yeah, that MC Hammer always was a no-good sell-out.

http://nahright.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/autotune-academy-450x400.jpg

DOA video. He's blowing stuff up now, he's so mad.

The lack of comments about the actual sound of the song in this thread is baffling to me. Awesome song.

MGMT to Appear on Jay-Z's Blueprint 3

killing autotune... to resurrect jim jones collaborations!

his new single with Kanye & Rihanna comes out on Monday btw

I'm really dreading hearing it for some reason... :-\

i bet there's a chris brown subliminal

speaking of him - are you pleased w/ the apology? I was gonna bump that chris brown thread but.....

I'm really dreading hearing it for some reason... :-\

― The Brainwasher, Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:54 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

it's because you live in new york

The lack of comments about the actual sound of the song in this thread is baffling to me. Awesome song.

― Turangalila, Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:29 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

<3 No I.D. but the beat isn't really one of his best imo, not a great groove or balance of sounds

some guy was getting interviewed on npr this morning who used this song as an analogy for international politics... not in passing either, it was the point of the whole interview

Re: Chris Brown apology, his eyebrows are transfixing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3esLWlOhATA

I'm at work and can't listen to this so I'm officially taking off from even saying anything about this. Hater's holiday, y'all.

― some dude, Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:56 AM (11 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

jay needs to stop leaking singles before noon on weekdays, it's cramping my style

he needs to retire.

oh well that was underwhelming. duh.

yeah not as good as DOA

needs more autotune

is that the one w rihanna and kanye?

I think everyone here is underestimating the weight of this song. Check any hip-hop news site and it's practically the only thing anyone has been talking about since Friday night- with a overwhelmingly positive response (honestly, people have been complaining about autotune for so long, it's a surprise that it took this long for someone to actually build a song around the theme). At this rate, DOA could end up being the hip hop equivalent of Smells Like Teen Spirit, in the sense that it so totally destroys the trend of the moment that no one will ever be able to use autotune ever again. Look for hip hop to get darker and less pop-oriented (on the whole) by the end of the year.

― makeitpop, Monday, June 8, 2009 5:45 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is the worst post on ilm this year - i hope we're being trolled

― let free dom ring (J0rdan S.), Monday, June 8, 2009 6:51 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

[Vampire Weekend's] CD-R is one of the 15 best records of the year.

― J0rdan S., Sunday, 18 November 2007 08:07 (1 year ago)

i don't understand

what happened? I'm confused.

am i supposed to c/p the part where you say limp bizkit's "rollin" is the best riff of the 2000s or the tweet where you stan for bat for lashes? what's my next move here?

i say go for a tried-and-true drowning zing

i think you should go the pedant route and point out that your Vampire Weekend post wasn't from this year

that's just how i roll, though.

what a disaster for autotune? jay? j0rdan? fred durst?

i mean, not to get totally off topic, but i don't have to like Limp Bizkit to say that the riff in "Break Stuff" is a good riff.

maybe even the best riff in nu-metal

yeah i got your back on the bizkit riffs

as if jay needed another way to convey that his current music is completely worthless, he goes and bites a U2 cover

http://nahright.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/run-this-town-450x450.jpg

this song absolutely sucks

there is no locale that will be going ham to this

in a way tho it's pretty apt - jay still does "run" new york rap-wise, and both are hanging on for something that doesn't currently exist and may never be coming back

kanyes good on it, rihanna too.

kanye sounds as if he's falling asleep, his verse feels like half an hour long

and rihanna sounds as good as you can singing a weak hook. Which is not very good.

its shit. but they are both better than the main artist.

(rihannas hook for live your life was better though)

the hook is awful. makes no sense and is totally unmemorable

i think people should describe this crap in detail so i can kind of imagine it before i get in my car and get bombarded with it in a couple hours

eh the track is ok, i like the bassline on the second half of the verses, not sure if edge-style guitar really fits the 'message'. everyone sounds lifeless tho. lex otm.

lol xp

i fuck w/ this ye verse for real

alright it tails off a bit at the end but "what you think i rap for? /to push a fuckin RAV4?"

jay can't even say "wassup" good

only listened once but i don't think that's guitar, sounds like distorted keyboard or maybe even marimba or something?

oh nevermind maybe it is guitar with a weird distortion sound, no one cares but me anyways

i care

more descriptions, i want to really be able to visualize this trash

so far in my head it just sounds like "swagga like us"

the hook kinda reminds me of that bad new jordin sparks songs that is trying to sound like rhianna but worse

sounds like the dog sound effect from mario paint is being used liberally in the beginning. so, that's something.

loooool

i thought you needed disco strings to run a city? what has happened to us, its coldplay michael mann sad ceo time these days

the beat kinda reminds me of a less funky version of "homecoming" that chris martin/kanye song

ok that's impossible to imagine

sample jay lyrics:

"We are
Yeah, I said 'We are'
This is Roc Nation
Pledge your allei-guuunce*
Get your black tees on (not sure here
All black everything
Black cards, black cars
All black everything
and our girls are black birds (?)
ridin' with they Dillingers
I get more in depth if you boys really real enough

*said in this dumb way to kinda half rhyme with the dumb way he says "We are"

yall lou jag is gonna come in and liveblog!!

DRAMA KING EXCLOOOOOOOOSIVE-IVE-IVE-IVE-IVE-IVE-IVE-IVE

to be honest I'm not sure he'll ever record a couplet worse than "I don't be in the project hallway/ talkin' about how I be in the projects all day". that was like he turned into juelz santana for a couple bars.

yeah that "all black everything" repeated part is really weird and awkward

i think that jay's famous practice of never writing down lyrics for his verses is starting to catch up with him, like he's lost his edge and maybe if he started actually seeing shit on paper he'd see how dumb it sounds and looks

tbf it didn't help t.i. to start writing shit down either

that "all black" this is especially groan worthy cuz it's already referencing "death of autotune"

OK there's a nice R&B lope to begin with, almost stumbling into action. I quite like such vulnerability in a chart song. The female vocals which open the track are a bit phoned-in, but I am willing to overlook them because the guitar loop has a really quite startling, vibrato tone. It's almost shoegazey. It works, again, pretty nicely. The song is vulnerable. It's in a minor key and the backing whoops and hollers sound more like yelps of pain. There's a looped sample that sounds like a dog being kicked. All the while, a loping, downtempo beat allows our man to rap slowly, deliberately, and really sound the syllables with feeling, like each one hurts him.

NOONE ON THE CORNER HAS JAGGER LIKE US JAGGER LIKE US JAG JAGGER LIKE US

Let's tweet Roc Nation asking them to get Jay a stenographer

That's what I wrote during my first listen. Second coming up.

the song is vulnerable. It's in a minor key and the backing whoops and hollers sound more like yelps of pain.

Can we loop this?

louie,

http://www.zwani.com/graphics/thank_you/images/1.gif

sweet lou are you saying this song is some soft batch pussy rap?

Not necessarily...

More focus on the lyrics this time round. One thing I hadn't noticed is that the kicked-dog sample actually begins the song and persists more or less throughout. Strings from everywhere? It's like she's imagining some sort of giant weepy violin concerto. Unless she's singing "Strains". Lots of non-understanding. Things are fucked up and she doesn't know why. Jay-Z will tell her. He's tryina get back. Something about stacks. Life's an unfair game, and she breaks the rules. Oh wait, she's like his choral conscience. Righto, as you were. Some wailing. We are...C-saw? Chainsaw? Fractured, brutal imagery. Millionaires. I'm not really a hip-hop lyric expert, but the musical levels are building and busting adeptly. They understand the night, and the night is cruel. "Next time I'm in church, please no photo"...Jay is beset with the trappings of fame even when trying to connecting to something spiritual. It is a husk, his life, bereft of substance. Shoes without shoestrings. He wears his slippers everywhere these days. Near the end, a slightly more muscular bassline emerges briefly to give the song some short-lived and quickly-strangled direction. It's like a sort of false build. Very effective. An oscillating vocal sample, like the kicked-dog but more expressive, spirals into the distance. A harrowing ride. A grim depiction of life at its cruellest, no doubt. Aided by a soup of audio vulnerability and strangulated production.

So you like the song.

Would rock again.

(I say it with <3 that I wouldn't do this for you guys without lapsing into self-parody at some point)

<3<3<3<3 pt 2

Jay-Z will tell her. He's tryina get back.

"Next time I'm in church, please no photo"...Jay is beset with the trappings of fame even when trying to connecting to something spiritual.

btw this is kanye!

Maybe Kanye is more religious than Jay-Z...I need to a(u)t(o)tune my ears to hip-hop inflections

Good luck!

What was the party line on this song from the ringtone regulars?

it leaked like 7 hous ago so i don't think there's a party line per se yet

7 hours ago

7 hoos ago

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woah trippy

i think in general no one really likes nu-jay

well, he has some stubborn apologists, no doubt

basically he's just the first rapper to ever get to that hollowed rolling stones-ish ground of "every record they ever make will always be a big deal no matter how bad it is or how little it sells"

"no one" meaning ringtone regulars

oh right we were talking about goons

whiney and a couple of other people defended american gangster, though

god this is shit. the beat is alright, i wish the drums were a little fuller though. jay's flow is super annoying, it's this playful bouncy shit but he forgot to write the punchlines to make them bearable. rihanna's hook is awful. not as annoying as "live your life" but much more slight. i can't even remember anyhthing about kanye's verse which i think makes it his best of the year so far

so i got the phoned-in-ness of the female vocals right then

"roc boys" still gets me hyped and i did like "blue magic"

I like nu-Jay but aint crazy about it.

Will follow dude to the end like Springsteen fans what

The Game's own account suggests that he saw vulnerability in Jay-Z's over-extension. First, supposedly Jay-Z got Chris Brown blackballed from the BET Video Awards by threatening to stay home if he performed. Second, D.O.A., the first single off of Blueprint 3, attacked a whole generation of rappers using the Autotune program to sing (including such great powers as Lil Wayne, Snoop Dogg, and Kanye West as well as the hapless T-Pain). Taken together, that might add up to a growing resentment which could be exploited. Maybe he calculated that now was the moment to strike, and that the rest of the middle powers will ally with him to topple the tyrant.

http://lynch.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/07/13/jay_z_vs_the_game_lessons_for_the_american_primacy_debate

as well as the hapless T-Pain
as well as the hapless T-Pain
as well as the hapless T-Pain
as well as the hapless T-Pain
as well as the hapless T-Pain
as well as the hapless T-Pain
as well as the hapless T-Pain
as well as the hapless T-Pain

yeah i had to re-read that to make sure i got that right

ok i'm actually feeling this beat haha

god he raps like such a chump now

yeah the beat is the best part of it

the beat is basically every bad "dramatic" beat

Couldn't make it thru the song.. the rihanna part is annoying as shit.

the beat is basically every clunky-yet-still-somehow-hot kanye beat. the stupid-ass chorus is the only thing that really makes it all feel scare quote "dramatic".

noodle otm... but autotune is kind of lame now i agree... the offical jump the shark moment for autotune is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4vxotdYliA

― Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher),

i like this song it's on a at&t commercial

me 2

I don't know... I really like Rihanna on the track.

No one commented on Kanye's "no homo" line yet?

The track's been out for like 10 hours, dude.

I'll have my dissertation on each line on your desk by the morn

oh man, this st3re0gum comment debate is gold

http://stereogum.com/archives/new-jayz-feat-rihanna-kanye-west-run-this-town_081231.html#more

Well said Billy. I think Kanye is a talentless idiot. Why is it all the rappers these days have to team up all the time? Maybe because they don't have enough talent to carry an entire song, cd or show by themselves.
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u_u

this beat sucks

When "turn my swag on" came out jay z and anyone who takes his position officially became irrelevant...autotune, high profile geusts, none of that shit matters. fuckin boring old douche

The beat is fantastic, really grown on me. Rihanna's hook, as others have mentioned, is pretty snooze-worthy.

yes, "Smells Like Teen Swag" certainly signaled a sea change in popular music xpost

yes it did maybe you're jay-z's age idk

No.

why do things like autotune and high profile guests no longer matter after a song that blew up because of a version that featured both?

yo that was an x-swag to some dude fall back

wait what song are you talking about?

"Turn My Swag On," the most important song of the 21st century

it blew up because of high profile guests????

also, clearly this jayz song features no autotune so i meant autotune as a subject is no longer relvant

and "turn" might have autotune but it's not a defining element of the song like say "pop champagne"

i never heard it on the radio once before the Wayne version dropped

also Jay was irrelevant (at least as much as he's ever going to get) way before "Turn My Swag On," and that song always felt like it was piggybacking on "Swagga Like Us," which Jay was on, and also dude stop coming off like such a moron

oh come one. first of all, the radio means nothing. second of all thats like saying "A Millie" blew up because a bunch of rappers jumpe don it. Souja Boy "Turn My Swag On" is an undeniable classic and only associated with one person. mr tellem

ok, those two songs have nothing to do withe ach other. "turn" is a game changer because of its sound, structure not cuz it feaured a sample from a hip artists some A&R suggested and a handful of popular rapper

I assumed when we were talking about a radio hit that at least some of its assumed significance was derived from radio play. Anyway the song was out for about 4 months before anyone who didn't own the album seemed to know it existed.

Someone should do a roundup of all those bLOLg posts from May wondering if this year's "summer jam" was gonna be Micuchu and the Shapes or Drake or Das Rascist or Gaga, when in reality it was a Soulja Boy song released in January.

some dude, not to throw a wrench in your arguement, but I didn't even know a Wayne remix existed of swag o_O

We live in different worlds, i guess

yeah that Drake is sure eating crow, what ever happened to that song

(my point)-->.

:/<----(some dude)

not even January! the video dropped last October

xpost yeah yeah it was just an eazy sing sorry

lol @ easy sing

i told u 'swag' was getting huge & u denied it some dude!! back when it first started hitting

no one associates 'swag' w/ lil wayne, everyone knows its an sb record

the high profile remixes were due to the song being huge, not the other way around!!!

"swag" is "a Millie" level impact imo...this song and everything jay z is pushing for is hapless and rather pathetic in light of those two songs

There is no room for rap outside of "A Milli" and "Swag"

You know, surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, it's not that Jay-Z actually runs the rap game it's that he has the swagger an attitude of someone who runs the rap game.

Do you get mad and scream "THAT'S NOT TRUE" when Diamond Dallas Page said he was better than Stone COld or whatever?

Like calling someone a played out has-been loser because they're not as famous/popular/iconic as Soulja Boy is an argument that even a 13-year-old would tell you is short-sighted

yeah i remember you noticing "swag" catching on before me, but that was still months and months after it'd been out. it's not like i was screaming "IT'S A FLOP" Jordan-style a week after it was out.

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surfboard is really trying to swag the dog with this argument

lol @ Jordan-style btw

hmmm i guess i didn't full grasp the implications of "turn my swag on"

it's becoming increasingly clear that shipley bases all of his arguments on the narcissism of small differences that is catching something on the radio

i mean to say that "turn my swag on" only became a hit because of lil wayne is just pure delusion

Cover of the Blueprint III:

http://pitchfork.com/news/36103-jay-zs-iblueprint-3i-the-cover/

lol never saw jordan's e-thuggin' parting shot on this thread. you saying i'm more delusional on this thread than surfboard dudes!?!?

hahaha i would never think such a thing - you and me have been getting into it a lot lately, i propose a beer summit

I proposed buying Al a shot two years ago and he never did :(

*respond, that is

only cause i prefer beer to shots

also y'all wouldn't be able to buy me a drink unless you were also willing to buy me a plane ticket (no luna)

am I really being delusional? jay-z has clearly settled into a Bon Jovi role and Soulja Boy is hailed as a visionary

also, can't believe the levels of biting jay went with that album cover and no i'm not talking about U2 or secret machines...the whole thing is so Kanye

yeah it's really sad the way he's chasing kanye now instead of vice versa -- anyway i don't think anyone's arguing much with you saying that jay is way over the hill, just the idea that "turn my swag on" had anything to do with him becoming any more irrelevant than he already was

tbh i think the cover would be kind of cool if not a little too linkin park mashup album pt 2 without the dumbass U2 lines

first solo album he hasn't appeared on the cover of, too

http://nahright.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/blueprint2-tracklist-450x337.gif

the dude from EMIPRE OF THE SUN huh

also

http://chrome-hacks.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/aboutinternets.jpg

Did Empire of the Sun guy replace MGMT?

yeah someone got that wrong somewhere along the line

JAY-Z + LUKE STEELE (OF NATIONS BY THE RIVER)

HATE JAY-Z + KANYE WEST

think I'm gonna give this a miss

hahaha EMPIRE OF THE SUN

i like that album btw

"JAY-Z + ____" for all collaborations and no artist credit for solo tracks is such an awkward choice

now i know why hes calling this BP3 cuz it's gonna be wack like the second one was with a bunch of hacky guest spots

dude, if only this album had guests as "hacky" as Rakim, Scarface, Twista, Big Boi, Killer Mike and M.O.P.

and LEnny Kravitz

also i meant it's gonna be bad like BP2 + have bad guests

a Jay-Z song titled "Guns 'N Roses" featuring Lenny Kravitz with a beat produced by Heavy D that samples Cake was one of the few true culture clash headfucks in a decade full of false alarms. also it wasn't that bad as a song.

i'm just sayin the blueprint had one guest and one sound wasn't that what made it so unique in his catalog and such a great album. these two seem like they may have more in common with each other than with the first one. and with Kingdom Come too

if DOA was a new Takeover-like kickoff to a new album with that consistent sound and a lot of NO ID and Kanye productions it would be pretty cool. this seems kinda suspect. that being said I'm listening to American Gangster right now and trying to stop being so negative about the guy

yeah, i mean, they talked a big game about taking all the AutoTune off the album and making the production aggressive, but even if they follow up on that and just happen to have a bunch of indie rock hooks and tight jeans rappers on those beats it could still be pretty lame. i'm glad to not see "Jockin' Jay-Z," "Swagga Like Us," "History" or "Brooklyn (Go Hard)" on the tracklist if only so i don't ever have to think about intentionally listening to those songs ever again.

never been real into the "protest ballot" thing but i kinda wanna make my Pazz & Jop singles list all-AutoTune. probably gonna be at least 50% anyway.

whoever fabricated the "Big Hat CLub" tracklisting needs an invite to autogoon

"young forever" lolz

i'm kinda bummed jockin' jay-z was held off, i liked that one!

lol "Venus Vs. Mars" looks like the track most likely to be an outtake from the Kid Cudi album

a Jay-Z song titled "Guns 'N Roses" featuring Lenny Kravitz with a beat produced by Heavy D that samples Cake was one of the few true culture clash headfucks in a decade full of false alarms. also it wasn't that bad as a song.

― some dude, Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:22 AM (59 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i guess it's important for us to still shit our pants every time a black person namedrops an indie rock band, though.

― soulja boy antebellum (some dude), Sunday, July 26, 2009 4:06 AM (3 days ago)

what a difference three weeks makes

saying people make much ado about a common phenomenon too often and pointing out the one of the few times i think it'd be maybe worth making much ado about aren't really contradictory statements, dude.

i.e. the other post is about one of the "false alarms" i referred to

"true culture clash headfuck"

"scare quotes"

"boring GOTCHA cut-and-paste"

""scare quotes""

"hoping your inevitable suggest ban comes sooner than later if only to preserve what little remaining respect or affection i have left for you that you keep whittling away with every pointless hardman attack"

you and me both

whoever fabricated the "Big Hat CLub" tracklisting needs an invite to autogoon

― Waka Flocka Neuname (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Wednesday, August 19, 2009 4:12 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah....i'm in a mourning period for Big Hat Club right now. : (

glad dom didn't have to live to see this.

ethan's taking credit for BHC, always thought he grabbed it from some blog making shit up, kudos to him

http://www.dodgecityambucs.org/domains/177/images/Big%20Hat/big_hat_club_logo.jpg

hahaha...

can someone mock up that Jay-Z art with the tracklisting for the Shaq album for old tyme's sake?

"hoping your inevitable suggest ban comes sooner than later if only to preserve what little remaining respect or affection i have left for you that you keep whittling away with every pointless hardman attack"

― some dude, Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:30 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark

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man, how different would ILX be if all this was happening IN PERSON, you know, all of us just chillin' like villians at dave & buster's or some shit

lol at internet bickering

i consider whiney a bro and i think he knows that, but dude has been almost late-period-tombot level impossible to deal with for a while now and i think it's a shame

It's a shame
The way you mess around with my heart
It's a shame
The way you hurt me
It's a shame
The way you mess around with my heart
It's a shame
The way you hurt me

cheers bruv, just clownin'

no, i think i'd like to overreact and get angry!

wow whiney come on dude ... if u cant see the difference between those two statements i just dont know

anyway stfu surfboards bp2 is NOT that bad ... its def better than his last couple albums

BP2 isn't playable through at all, but still like 60% dope

yeah...i hate saying this because it's a cliche that can be said of almost any double album, but you could edit it down to 1 really dope CD

YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP

cheers bruv, just clownin'

― I'M IN MIAMI, TRICK-OR-TREAT (Beatrix Kiddo), Wednesday, August 19, 2009 4:50 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

no, i think i'd like to overreact and get angry!

― best of the madmen slog (some dude), Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:18 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

mad prescient

Not to take anything away from the ship's staggering assault upthread or the discussion ongoing here but I started a thread for this album

The Inevitable New Jay-Z Album: Blueprint 3

The Timbaland/Drake/Jay song sounds pretty awesome.

i don't think rush limbaugh is on jay's balls afaik

"it ain't all bad...some of it please me, but the only niggas that's cool is kanye and lil' weezy" classic.

classic in what way?

classic because the use of "kanye" and "please me" in the same sentence proves the influence of kl0pper

some of it please meh

hahaha the kl0pper quote

dude went left us too soon

well i guess not exactly 'classic,' but i thought it was a good one...maybe a melange of truth and good humor?

yo how much autotune is on this girl's voice on "Reminder"???

well i guess not exactly 'classic,' but i thought it was a good one...maybe a melange of truth and good humor?

― wolf_train, Monday, August 24, 2009 9:39 AM (Yesterday)

there are so many things rong technically and ideologically about that line i dont know where to start.

implying that the two most annoying rappers of 2009 are any good is a nice place to start, though

not that it matters but "Karaoke" was from 2008

there are so many things rong technically and ideologically about that line i dont know where to start.

Humor us, kevin!!

obv "ideologically" was the wrong word - basically my next post summed it up

I was more interested in "technically," to be honest.

i don't think rush limbaugh is on jay's balls afaik

― can i ox (J0rdan S.), Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:46 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

btw rush says "I did not know I was on anybody's balls" so

"I did not know I was on anybody's balls"?!

If he don't know, now he know.

also obama wants to harm our penises

First the death of autotune and now this?!

RIPenis

AIYYEEE venus vs mars....jesus hov wtf is wrong with you dude? are you like mentally sick or something???

more like Gayness vs. SARS IMO

hahaha m@tt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRgTdHsMrrg

lol yeah a little too late t-pain, you already made a bitch of yourself during jay's set at summer jam

seriously! t-pain lost

Live version, with a lot of John Mayer guitar (starts at 5:00):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bJkoFUr8bs

http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/singles/2009/

19 Black Eyed Peas, "I Gotta Feeling"
Interscope Mentions: 22
28 Drake, "Best I Ever Had"
Young Money/Cash Money/Universal Motown Mentions: 19
35 Black Eyed Peas, "Boom Boom Pow"
Interscope Mentions: 17
42 Jay-Z, "D.O.A. (Death of Auto-Tune)"
Roc Nation Mentions: 14

haha

:D at both your d/ns

I really like the new "Backing Up song" by autotune the news

Got the drum break from this stuck in my head, I'd never heard the Janko Nilovic song that was sampled before (or heard of Janko Nilovic), holy shit that's great.

it's sad, it was a plug-in

RIP auto-tune

When "turn my swag on" came out jay z and anyone who takes his position officially became irrelevant...autotune, high profile geusts, none of that shit matters. fuckin boring old douche

― P.O.L.O. (Posters Only Lol Once) (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Saturday, July 25, 2009 11:09 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

alright it tails off a bit at the end but "what you think i rap for? /to push a fuckin RAV4?"

― highway to sarahel (J0rdan S.), Friday, July 24, 2009 3:18 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

<3

I think everyone here is underestimating the weight of this song. Check any hip-hop news site and it's practically the only thing anyone has been talking about since Friday night- with a overwhelmingly positive response (honestly, people have been complaining about autotune for so long, it's a surprise that it took this long for someone to actually build a song around the theme). At this rate, DOA could end up being the hip hop equivalent of Smells Like Teen Spirit, in the sense that it so totally destroys the trend of the moment that no one will ever be able to use autotune ever again. Look for hip hop to get darker and less pop-oriented (on the whole) by the end of the year.

― makeitpop, Monday, June 8, 2009 6:45 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao

oh that makes me cringe

Sure, songs that are already hits might still remain hits, but from here on out, it's hard to imagine anyone getting in the recording booth and requesting the autotune effect without a conversation about this song taking place.

― makeitpop, Monday, June 8, 2009 8:23 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

loool

I think it's a joke.

Bear in mind, this thread was started before the release of Attack Attack's "Stick Stickly," which was essentially the Smells Like Teen Spirit of auto-tune usage.

makeitplop

naw, makeitpop said laughable off-base shit as a matter of course

well fwiw i know i for one have not used autotune at any point in the years 2009-2015. make of that what you will.

yeah but did you discuss "DOA" before each time you didn't use autotune?