Gathering Of The Juggalos 2009 Infomercial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNe11E_KiAk

IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE?

Ice Cube and Gwar are playing lol

coolio

VANILLA ICE!

SEMINARS

HYPNOTISTS AND MAGICIANS WALKING AROUND THIS BITCH!

a beach boys tribute band!

hamburgers!

scavenger hunt!

http://www.juggalogathering.com/home.php

The Gathering of the Juggalos is the biggest event of the year in Underground music. Every year it hosts over 100 acts, and the list is growing. We're still adding performers to the 2009 roster, but here's a list of who's confirmed so far:

Scarface
Ice Cube
Gwar
Coolio
Vanilla Ice
Haystak
Tech N9ne
Kottonmouth Kings
ICP
Twiztid
Blaze
ABK
Boondox
Dark Lotus
AMB
Motown Rage
Bizarre of D12
The Dayton Family
Big B
Awesome Dre
Mushroomhead
Esham
MC Chris
Paradime

"This guy is going to shoot himself out of a cannon three times a day all weekend long"

rowdy roddy piper.......doing COMEDY

"for those of us who like late night violence"

midget wrestling!

who the fuck is tracy smothers?

pro wrestler

"DUDES ON STILTS!!"

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2446/3743121070_cc590d1586.jpg

i like the comparison with the Hajj.

Can someone American please succinctly explain Insane Clown Posse to me?

and to me too. I cant imagine them existing here.

"ninjas can expect to hear brand new material"

to be honest there's something kind of beautiful and inspiring about this, and i'm not even kidding. i think.

#1 rock festival ever

So it's set then, right? ICP FAP August 6-9, 2009?

Woo Woo!

xp. I wouldn't go that far but i can see something kind of cool in it in that it's all the bands on a label and assorted acts that they would be in in one festival, so really quite a specific demographic yet still really huge. Also the activities are pretty interesting for a festival and I'm sure if you were a juggalo it would be totally awesome. I don't really fit into such a specific subculture in anyway and even if I did I don't really expect there would anything like this for it. So, I suppose while it's completely lame it's also, I dunno, nice? Good for them I suppose?

Would you go if it was on in Viewpark?

Not in a million years!

Probably better than the rez in the 90s though!

Inspirational photo montage of past gathering of the juaggalos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNMYoDrid7M

♪♫♪♫ - mass murder makes me happy
dead bodies make me happy
say what you will of me
I'll always have juggalo family ― ♪♫♪♫

don't really get these guys (in the same way that i don't get ppl who are really into horror movies) but they seem harmless.

but youre glad they dont live near you?

"over 120 musical acts, from rappers to...bands"

and DUDES ON STILTS!!!!

I had to go to a horrible free dental clinic because I don't have insurance and there were a couple of Juggalos up in that bitch with me. They didn't know each other beforehand, but recognized each other because one had an ICP jersey and necklace, the other had tat with that psycho with a butcher knife logo. They greeted each other warmly and proceeded to discuss sick ass Twisted shows, one dude's crazy azz Juggalo homie getting high off rotted orange peels in jail, and the skank azz ho that stole the other dude's Juggalo gear, leaving him "feeling naked." Another highlight was when they had some unimpressed black hip hop dudes listen to Twisted mp3s on their phones.

and then they beat your ass for misspelling Twiztid

This makes me happy. My ex girlfriend and i laughed so hard at a thread about this subculture years ago.

Do they really call each other Ninjas, aside from Juggalos?

yes dude they do

Hog Daddy's Giant Hellfire of Death!!! How about this freshness?

Awesome Dre is in the Psychopathic Family now?!

o_O x 100000000

where is Dan?

ok I started watching this for the lols but by the end I grew some fucking balls and now I'm really excited about it! Probably the turning point was midget wrestling on thumbtacks. And there's a lot of sex in the air, don't doubt it. Actually, now it sounds like I'm sneering, but I'm trying not to; I was born in Illinois and lived in Indiana recently for six years, and this culture seems to be as authentically rust belt as can be. I actually want to start going on about post-racial bullshit watching this but I'll spare you.

maybe we could pool some cash and get an ilxor to attend and provide updates? I bet this would be a really good time.

At any rate maybe we can get Sugar Slam to start posting here.

So is this where the ilm reevaluation starts? First this thread, then we'll get a Defend the Indefensible where a couple key ilxors profess a grudging love for several early ICP tracks. Then comes the POO and album poll threads. And pretty soon Insane Clown Posse is all like Steely Dan or some shit.

hahaha

This video is going to be the reason Sugar Slam is turned down for that job reporting local news.

Sugar Slam in ten years...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RlK0Xd4c2c

Tracey Smothers wikipedia page still contains vandalism I did about three years ago

I happen to know Coolio is very hype to come kick it with the juggalos.

I happen to know Coolio is very hypebroke to come kick it with the juggalos.

from wikipedia

Smothers also takes part in Juggalo Championship Wrestling which is owned and run by Insane Clown Posse

http://2.media.tumblr.com/nch2BMQDpq7o15bb3CVmh7T4o1_400.jpg

I still maintain that the "Tunnel of Love" EP, Riddle Box and Ringmaster are all great and Bizaar/Bizzar could have been great if condensed to a single album.

Dan please go to this and video it for ILX

THE MOST MISUNDERSTOOD PEOPLE OF ALL TIME

Dan please go to this and video it for ILX

absofuckinglutely not

This is the equivalent of "Comicon + Faygo" and srsly fuck that.

boy this is a long video

Youtube comments brings the lolz...

Clowns unite fuck! We are gonna bring down the fuckin spiders this year! Prepare your paint cause the family is gonna get FUCKED! Im so fuckin excited to see my clown family and the GREATEST FUCKING EVENT OF 2009 FUCK! FUCK! We together bring meaning to this shit FUCK! Hear me now clowns. This is our time fuck! Fresh faygo and fuck! Last year the clown pussy was out of this fuckin life FUCK! Ninja's no matter how much you have to pay for you ticket PAY IT FUCK! See you there family!

This would be more fun to go to than burning man.

Last year the clown pussy was out of this fuckin life FUCK!

Conversely, I was thinking how nice it would be to have a band I LIKED who had a tight community like this, but the hardcore fans of pretty EVERY BAND IN EXISTENCE are pretty embarrassing.

i seriously can't name a single band who sells a decent amount of records whose most devoted fans don't make me roll my damn eyes

Slipknot?

I'm starting every conversation and e-mail at work this morning with HEAR ME NOW CLOWNS!

Last year the clown pussy was out of this fuckin life FUCK!

juggalingus

Part of me wants to pitch a writeup on this to someone, but a) I have no idea who handles publicity for ICP/Psychopathic and wouldn't know how to arrange access, and b) fuuuuuuuucccckkkk that.

the faq

Can I sleep in my car?
If you are so inclined you may sleep in your car. If you would like to park your car on the campgrounds you must have at least a car pass (no pass is needed for the parking lot). YOU MAY NOT SLEEP IN YOUR CAR WITH THE WINDOWS ROLLED UP. There is simply too much danger of dehydration, suffocation and heatstroke to allow sleeping in cars with closed windows.

# Anyone hurting the wild animals, amphibious creatures, or birds will be thrown in jail and banned from returning to the Gathering of the Juggalos.

They don't have that rule at, like, Bumbershoot.

I still think the native american is gonna shed a tear when he sees the faygo bottles left in their wake

Conversely, I was thinking how nice it would be to have a band I LIKED who had a tight community like this, but the hardcore fans of pretty EVERY BAND IN EXISTENCE are pretty embarrassing.

― swag'll rock (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:39 AM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i seriously can't name a single band who sells a decent amount of records whose most devoted fans don't make me roll my damn eyes

― swag'll rock (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:40 AM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah i was thinking the same thing...like i'd love to see some crazy fest of my favorite band and all their associated friends/side projects/labelmates but i don't know who i'd love that wholeheartedly enough to revel in that kind of over the top fandom who'd actually do something like that.

Mad Decent Fest

gathering of the jawns

YOU MAY NOT SLEEP IN YOUR CAR WITH THE WINDOWS ROLLED UP. There is simply too much danger of dehydration, suffocation and heatstroke to allow sleeping in cars with closed windows.

^^ good advice all the time, tbh

LOL @ fat dude whose name I already don't remember, after about 1 minute of the infomercial opening this thread lethargically talking about the *yawn* energy ... in the air ...

I have to say I'm pretty impressed by their ability to pull together a giant crowd of violent little shits and make them behave.

hasn't always been that way, though

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1445180/20010716/i_c_p.jhtml

hahaha I forgot about that

Rappers forced to flee own fans at Gathering of the Juggalos in Toledo, Ohio. <--- lol

http://www.ericdsnider.com/images/punchsaddles.jpg

In Saturday's seminar, Violent J even — inexplicably — treated several hundred Juggalos to a hoarse-voiced acoustic rendition of Pearl Jam's "Elderly Woman Behind the Counter in a Small Town."

man my friend went to gathering of juggalos cuz his friend worked for a wrestling promotion...he sent out this crazy ass email detailing the whole thing...just insane.

i'll try to find it.

The mostly teenage fans at the gathering — approximately 6,600 strong, according to Psychopathic Records — spent the three days attending seminars, listening to music, watching live wrestling matches, getting free tattoos and face paint, and chanting "f--- Eminem."

tbh this sounds dope except for the seminars

i dunno a Juggalo Powerpoint would be awesome i think

clown pussy'll make a ninja do some crazy things

juggalos are into faygo?

oh dude you don't even KNOW

In Saturday's seminar, Violent J even — inexplicably — treated several hundred Juggalos to a hoarse-voiced acoustic rendition of Pearl Jam's "Elderly Woman Behind the Counter in a Small Town."

inexplicably

more proof juggalos are THE MOST MISUNDERSTOOD PEOPLE OF ALL TIME

The Dark Carnival drives us to put on clown make-up, rap about killing people and sing Pearl Jam songs at daytime seminars.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2446/3743121070_cc590d1586.jpg

just saw this. lold.

one thing i remember is that i guess the only law is that you can't steal from another juggalo....so i guess some dudes get caught stealing and at that point juggalo justice system says that you can either 1) leave the gathering immediately or 2) opt to spend 24 hours locked up in a human sized bird cage where ppl come by and taunt you and shit

i guess some dudes, esp early in the weekend opted to be locked in the cage so they didn't miss the whole thing....

also he said there were like "lemonade stands" with homemade, magic marker written signs that said like "Cocaine - $XX, Pot - XX$, Ecstacy - $XX" etc etc

srsly you have to admit there is an extended amount of gonzo comedy surrounding this entire thing, which is what made me start listening to them in the first place (btw guess which ILX site mod heard them first and introduced them to me and bought a Riddle Box t-shirt)

i have entered a new world. one door has shut; another is opened

http://www.faygofreakshow.com/

http://www.myspace.com/ghome

"I Don't know mother fucker. Who the fuck cares. The Faygo was always there. Everybody always ask me that. We just drink allot of it cause its mad cheap and they got hundreds of crazy ass flavors. Fuck that question. We used to do graffiti on walls and we were called 'The Krylon Boys", that was our graffiti crew's name. My tag name was Faygo Joe cause I always drank that shit."

xp

mark s?

Gotta say the bird cage is pretty awesome

oh dude the idea of 6600 juggalos all blissed out on x is maybe too much to bear

xxxxpost

I'm afraid to ask what "The Neden Game" is

hahahahahaaaaaa yeah you are right to worry m@tt

Nedem

haha okay what is the Nedem game????

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WOdbZr1zByU/ST3ZUzbxlgI/AAAAAAAABEM/qGZeIQM3eeA/s320/DSC09358.JPG

puggalo

:-)

Hahahaha, ENBB bait

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faygo

Faygo is often talked about by the Detroit hip hop group Insane Clown Posse, who reference Faygo in several of their songs. Positive audience reaction to an early concert performance in which Violent J threw an open bottle at a row of hecklers resulted in the group continuing to spray their audiences with the drink. However, the group is not acknowledged by the company. According to Bruce, "We wish they would do a limited edition Faygo pop run with us. Maybe one day, when they get a new CEO, they might change their way of thinking. But whoever's in charge now wants to steer clear of Insane Clown Posse. They consider themselves a family product. I guess they don't make it to throw at each other."

haha okay what is the Nedem game????

― tulsa anti-juggalo league (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, July 22, 2009 3:46 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Subliminal message: "kill the current CEO, my ninja army." (xpost)

juggalo justice system says that you can either 1) leave the gathering immediately or 2) opt to spend 24 hours locked up in a human sized bird cage where ppl come by and taunt you and shit

"WHAT IS THE LAW? NOT TO WALK ON ALL FOURS. THAT IS THE LAW."

Conversely, I was thinking how nice it would be to have a band I LIKED who had a tight community like this, but the hardcore fans of pretty EVERY BAND IN EXISTENCE are pretty embarrassing.

― swag'll rock (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:39 AM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i seriously can't name a single band who sells a decent amount of records whose most devoted fans don't make me roll my damn eyes

― swag'll rock (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:40 AM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah i was thinking the same thing...like i'd love to see some crazy fest of my favorite band and all their associated friends/side projects/labelmates but i don't know who i'd love that wholeheartedly enough to revel in that kind of over the top fandom who'd actually do something like that.

― some dude, Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:28 AM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark

OTM. Also, I keep finding myself thinking that there is something almost nice about such a tight knit community and sense of family etc. and then snapping out of it when I realize that these are JUGGALOS we're talking about.

sorry it is neden

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw6C8pob3XU

what is it. explain 2 me

meanwhile the 3ds are reuniting for merge xx

xpost

"neden" is juggalo slang for vag iirc

^^^ this

[Violent J]
Okay, first I'd slide up to the bar
And tell you that I can't believe how fucking fat you are
I'd tell that I like the way you make your titties shake
And if you lost a little weight, you'd look like Rickie Lake!

[Shaggy 2 Dope]
Fuck that, you'd be jocking me quick
I'd order you a drink and stir it with my dick
And then to get your attention in the crowded place
I'd simply walk up and stick my nuts in your face

[Violent J]
Yeah, freak with your nuts, yo, that'll get her
Tell her that's she fat, yeah, that'll work even better
Look, fuck you, I got a strong rap
Shit, you don't want contestant number two
He's mad-whack

[Violent J]
I walk into a bar and there he was
Standing up on a bucket, eww, trying to fuck it
It was a big fucking smelly, ass farm llama
Damn dawg! how you gonna diss your momma?!

O_O

Fuck that, you'd be jocking me quick
I'd order you a drink and stir it with my dick

This line is pretty dope afiak tbh

woah.

So, they call themselves Ninjas, Juggalos, and Clowns?

What is a juggalo?
He ain't a bitchboy
He'll walk through the hills
And beat down a rich boy
Walks right in the house
When you're having supper
And dip his nuts in your soup, gloop!

it's bloop iirc

IIRC "The Neden Game" is one of the tracks that was censored fro The Great Milenko by Disney that made it onto subsequent pressings of the album after ICP pitched a public hissy fit and were dropped from the label:

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,288784,00.html

They kind of use profanity like 5th graders. It reminds of boys I went to school with that would say bad words to appear more tough, usually chubby ones. At some point someone will come out and say this is a joke, right?

um

That video was meant to make people laugh, right?

it's bloop iirc

― swag'll rock (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, July 22, 2009 4:01 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this kinda bums me out for some reason, was just c&ping, but gloop seems so much better than bloop for the sound of someone dropping their nuts in your soup...

maybe your sloppy, gloopy nuts

srsly you have to admit there is an extended amount of gonzo comedy surrounding this entire thing, which is what made me start listening to them in the first place (btw guess which ILX site mod heard them first and introduced them to me and bought a Riddle Box t-shirt)

― Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:42 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

At some point someone will come out and say this is a joke, right?

― Jacob Sanders, Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:04 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah if only people on this thread would loosen up and realize there's something funny about all this

thanks for completely misinterpreting my post, dick

(^_^)

hi dere using profanity like a 5th grader

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2453/3743121046_087f650a28.jpg

How did rap music become connected to this scene?

^^ legit lols

srsly you have to admit there is an extended amount of gonzo comedy on this entire thread, which is what made me start reading it in the first place

i admit nothing

oh, except being a dick and completely misinterpreting your post

the first thread about ICP was the best.
Insane Clown Posse Fans. No, they really do exist, BITCH. My question is.....WHY, JUGGALOS!?

That's not the first thread, this is:

DOES ANYONE IN THIS BITCH LIKE ICP

maybe I should have stated the first thread I read about this music.

CLOWN LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUV!
― Dan Perry, Sunday, May 20, 2001 5:00 PM (8 years ago)

This is silly.
― JM, Sunday, May 20, 2001 5:00 PM (8 years ago)

sorry took me a while to find this: The Mountain Goats

oh hey if yall havent guessed it already i am the mod dan is referring to. shit is fucking funny.

have not bought the last 14 albums or whatever tho.

10:15–10:30 am

What Is a Juggalo: A Function Alternative to Religion
Ashley R. Davis (Mark Rubinfeld), Westminster College
Oral Session A3, Converse B18

This senior thesis discusses the identity and faith of Juggalos, who are the followers of a
band called Insane Clown Posse. Providing an overview of Insane Clown Posse, I will look
at how a Juggalo’s way of life and belief system has many similarities to that of alternative
religions through their community bond. I intend to discuss the phenomenon of the
Juggalo in order to educate readers about the life of a Juggalo, the community that is
created by them, and to discuss the importance of this particular group of contemporary
youth and the social movement they have created for themselves. This will entail looking
at theories of Gemeinschaft, Sense of Community theory, and alternative religions. To
collect the information, I will be combining ethnographic research and secondary analysis.
What I expect to find is a relationship between Juggalo identity and faith as it pertains to
their sense of community and how it could be argued that they have formed their own
alternative religion. Finally, I anticipate explaining why the Juggalo community shouldn’t
be referenced in a negative way.

all that in 15 minutes

10:15–10:30 am

What Is a Juggalo: A Function Alternative to Religion
Ashley R. Davis (Mark Rubinfeld), Westminster College
Oral Session A3, Converse B18

This senior thesis discusses the identity and faith of Juggalos, who are the followers of a
band called Insane Clown Posse. Providing an overview of Insane Clown Posse, I will look
at how a Juggalo’s way of life and belief system has many similarities to that of alternative
religions through their community bond. I intend to discuss the phenomenon of the
Juggalo in order to educate readers about the life of a Juggalo, the community that is
created by them, and to discuss the importance of this particular group of contemporary
youth and the social movement they have created for themselves. This will entail looking
at theories of Gemeinschaft, Sense of Community theory, and alternative religions. To
collect the information, I will be combining ethnographic research and secondary analysis.
What I expect to find is a relationship between Juggalo identity and faith as it pertains to
their sense of community and how it could be argued that they have formed their own
alternative religion. Finally, I anticipate explaining why the Juggalo community shouldn’t
be referenced in a negative way.

To begin:
What is a juggalo?
He aint a bitch boy.
Hell walk through to the hills and beat down a rich boy.
Walks right in the house where ya havin supper,
And dip his nuts in ya soup... bloop!

To continue:
What is a juggalo?
Well he aint a phoney.
Hell walk up and bust a nut in your macaroni.
And watch you sit there and finish up the last bit,
Cuz youre a stupid-ass dumb fuckin idiot.

Thank you for your time

I'm so utterly fascinated by all this - I worked in Detroit in the late 90's and used to see them around there and Ann Arbor and thought it was so bizarre. Everyone totally hated Juggalos. It's still weird for me to see them regularly in small rednecky western towns, obsessed with the cheap ass pop we used to have when I was a kid.

I would seriously love to get all made up and go to the gathering undercover just to see it all first hand, kind of like how I'd love to wear a hawaiian shirt and straw hat to go to a Jimmy Buffett show. Objectively it would probably be horrible but it would be amazing and strange at the same time.

where would you rather get laid?

sweaty trashy girls in clown makeup + spit for lube vs. middle aged drunk woman in coconut bra reeking of margarita is kind of a tossup

this is one of the most bewildering subcultures to emerge in our times

. ICP's Sunday night performance was supposed to end with the revelation of a key bit of Insane Clown Posse mythology — the "Sixth Joker's Card." But fans destroyed the mechanism that the rap duo would have used to reveal the card, whatever it was, according to Abbiss. "I've been waiting eight f---ing years to find out what that card is," moaned Jason Gronos, a 25-year-old Juggalo from Detroit, as he wandered outside after the gathering's end. "It's like a big heartbreak." Numerous Juggalos said they were disappointed with their brethren for cutting ICP's show short, with many blaming the incident on the group's youngest fans.

sweaty trashy girls in clown makeup + spit for lube vs. middle aged drunk woman in coconut bra reeking of margarita is kind of a tossup

― joygoat, Wednesday, July 22, 2009 5:35 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

nah though i bet a ton of money that buffet gets tons of total college babes, like how neil diamond draws from all ages

But Jay Diamond, a 26-year-old from Chattanooga, Tennessee, said he was among those who stormed the stage, and that those who did not join him were not real ICP fans. "They're not hardcore. They're scared," he said. Diamond said that ICP should have figured out a way to continue their set despite the chaos. No one was seriously hurt, according to police. A Toledo police spokesperson said that officers arrested one person on Sunday for property destruction, but it was unclear when the arrest occurred. In total, police arrested about 30 fans over the course of the event for such crimes as disorderly conduct, vandalism and, memorably, punching a police horse, according to police Sgt. Richard Murphy.

http://www.tryptechnics.com/pictures/GOTJ2004/church-sign-juggalos.jpg

Hahah, a random discovery:

Intelligence and Violence is an album released in 1990 by Violent J of the Inner City Posse and D-Lyrical. Violent J later recalled disliking D-Lyrical and only working with him for his karaoke machine.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/37/Inner_City_Posse_-_Intelligence_%26_Violence.jpg

shit I forgot the "Terror Wheel" EP, that's good too

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Anabelle_Lotus

guys, even CTRL+W33D are getting with this zeitgeist: http://w33d.tumblr.com/

^^woah nsfw homie!

sorry dudes, i assumed people knew.

anyway: CTRL+W33D IS NOT SAFE FOR WORK, UNLESS YOU WORK WITH DICK

The Tempest is the tenth album by the hip hop group Insane Clown Posse. It was preceded by The Calm and was followed later in 2007 by The Eye of the Storm EP. According to the opening track on The Calm, the titular Tempest is an incredibly destructive storm that will lay waste to the world, however the second track on the album, “Ride the Tempest,” has confirmed that the titular object is in fact a roller coaster.

lol

oh shit Mike E. Clark came back, their albums might be good again

All the wrestling stuff's worth a review:

* Finishing and signature moves
o Flapjack by Violent J into a cutter by Shaggy
o Moonsault by Violent J followed by the Lotus Cross by Shaggy
o Belly to back suplex (Violent J) / Neckbreaker (Shaggy) combination
o Double front dropkick to a seated opponent's head

a lot of stuff works better if your opponent's seated

http://www.viceland.com/int/v14n10/htdocs/land_of_juggalos.php?country=us

oh shit Mike E. Clark came back, their albums might be good again

okay initial listens say this was an incredibly naive hope

"The Tower" is okay, though; they're never gonna get back to the groove they had in '94-'95

I'm disappointed Dan wont go.

wtf @ Ned's link: the ICP Wikipedia page might be the cleanest and most thoroughly cited I've ever seen

I just watched this infomercial twice in a row.

how do you feel?

woah Blaze Ya Dead Homie has a pretty conceptual persona:

Chris Rouleau, also known as Blaze Ya Dead Homie, is an American rapper from Romeo, Michigan. His stage persona is that of a reincarnated gang member killed in the late 1980s, and his music is a fusion of gangsta rap and horrorcore.

how do you feel?

I kinda want to watch it a few more times.

I seriously keep forgetting that Violent J has spent every waking moment since Riddle Box came out eating pies.

Results 1 - 10 of about 572 for fattalo

The first result, BTW, is some sort of genius UH:

http://www.djmeats.com/DeerProcessing.htm

ned makes a shameless attempt to be excelsiored

Hell no, I was just bored.

But that all said, caption this photo:

http://www.djmeats.com/Images/DJ6.jpg

"hello sailor, want some beef?"

Results 1 - 10 of about 572 for fattalo

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, July 23, 2009 3:35 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark

thot this would be better:

Results 1 - 10 of about 765 for chubbalo. (0.24 seconds)

but not really

Results 1 - 13 of about 11 for neddalo. (0.24 seconds)

“What is a Juggalo? A fucking lunatic / Somebody with a rope tied to his dick / Then he jumps out a ten-story window / [slide whistle followed by breaking glass] Oh.”

This band really is going to be the Steely Dan of 2035, isn't it?

lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3ta3Uoh7Jg

its safe for work (with sound off at least lol)

lol Medway

can't stop laughing at this

where is medway?

"this is like the GRAMMYS for these boys!"

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=medway,+ma&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&split=0&gl=us&ei=PdRoSqGhAZH4NYLs5c8M&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1

here

i won't lie, i liked really shitty bands as a teenager.
I will no longer ride for faster pussycat or warrant
but my god, imagine the depth of depression these guys will feel when they look back on their childhood and this is the soundtrack

"Get this on camera because I'm gonna fuck him someday, all right?"
"And what's your name?"
"DENISE!"
"And how old are you?"
"Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN!"

looool

x-post -- Are you making fun of the herd of future Chuck Klostermans out there RIGHT NOW?

so fucking funny

i wonder how many thousands of phonecalls that little chick got

When she says "I'm only fourteen" and the dude off-camera says "Oh THAT'S a PROBLEM..." hahahahahahaha

but my god, imagine the depth of depression these guys will feel when they look back on their childhood and this is the soundtrack

once a juggalo; always a juggalo.

http://www.singingfool.com/photos/424/017835_5.jpg

dan what makes Medway so LOLable?

hey dan, if ICP opened Juggalo University , would it blow your mind?

Also, what courses would Juggalo University offer?

not courses SEMINARS

in BBQ Cheffing

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2446/3743121070_cc590d1586.jpg

Medway is LOLable because, well... it's like HSTNGS (only with more gang activity).

I googled "denise fourteen juggalo" to see if that had become a meme and ran across this:

http://www.mycrimespace.com/2008/04/30/21-year-old-rapes-14-year-old-he-met-over-myspace/

wau, although there are nuggets of gold in the comments:

Denise
Sep 23, 2008 at 9:10 pm

MCL and my dad owns an electric company, im fat from poor SO FUCK ALL OF YOU!
#

Denise
Sep 23, 2008 at 9:12 pm

*FAR

Your browser's cache must read like gold.

http://www.marriedtothesea.com/062606/juggalo-gondola.gif

T-SHIRT NOW

You want that on china plates on your wall

juggalo wedding!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXXxiUyiv4s

btw the "angel eyes" song they play when she walks in might be the juggalo "nightswimming"

also they wrote their own vows

"if you agree, seal your promise with a WOOP! WOOP!"

I wonder what Wheelchair Grandma is thinking throughout this whole thing.

this wedding really puts the prospect of ever being a parent in perspective imo

I'm imagining her inner monologue running something like, "oh jesus why didn't they teach us safe sex when i was young, maybe i could have spared my life from this path"

on the infomercial
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/Millwhore/peepeespecial-1.jpg

"Watch the video again, specifically 10:28 to 10:31, direct your eyes to the right of center!"

someone on dffd spotted this

At the near-end of a two-day whirlwind family funeral trip with flight cancellations and car issues, I spent the good part of our re-routed denver to austin leg trying to explain this video, this thread, and eventually the concept of a juggalo to my wife. "Wait, what is Faygo?"

EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK THERE'S SOME DIFFERENT SHIT POPPIN OFF

ICP's own violent J on Loveline:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OqH_rbHexc&eurl=http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/31104099.html%3Fpage%3D2&feature=player_embedded

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c287/expatrica/wickedclownlove.gifhttp://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c287/expatrica/jugpolice.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c287/expatrica/lette.jpghttp://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c287/expatrica/2jugs.jpg

you can never get too much Batter Fried Cheese Curds

on one of the old icp threads there was a link to some picture site with, like, a zillion fan pictures from one of the gatherings and it was one of the most fascinating documents i've ever seen. no offense to the dead (cuz i think his own stuff was just meh), but that dash snow thread on ile made me think that if someone took the best shots and made a book and put them in a gallery you could totally give nan goldin and larry clark a run for their money as far as haunting and bewildering american fever dream cultural anthropology time capsules go.

Exactly. I am pretty much obsessed with the whole idea of juggalo culture from a sociological perspective. There was a really amazing article I read on it last year but I haven't been able to find it. Still looking - will link if I do.

all this aggression and rampant testosterone honestly terrifies me, i couldn't make it through the video

also all hyped up on bad soda and the makeup and the bad facial hair - all too much for me

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3083/2756472323_3c99e68f2a_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3066/2835497216_a980fe5b8f_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3099/2757306944_dca3549378_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1113/1461311618_6d5d4c7b3a_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2374/1824742187_189d040ac6_b.jpg

anyone know someone at Taschen?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/53/132311518_5d200b8b87_o.jpg

Now why would anyone buy a belt that was so blatantly oversized?

WaIT, the new ICP album is named after the BEP single?

dude in last pic looks like a young noodle vague

This thread is making me excited about getting Faygo Rock & Rye in Michigan this summer if nothing else.

Also, those two guys, at the kitchen table? I've been in that house and crossed paths with those dudes so many times growing up, but before clown makeup was an acceptable accessory.

can't stop watching this

A friend of mine posted it on my wall on FB this morning. I was like seriously you think I haven't been all over this already? I live for juggalos!

all this aggression and rampant testosterone honestly terrifies me, i couldn't make it through the video

I shudder to think of the sexual assault rate at this gathering.

I think of that, but then I also think that if someone makes an unwanted advance, the object of desire can cheerfully kick the aggressor in the nuts and everyone around would cheer.

not a lot of hits for "feminist juggalo"

Er.

the object of desire can cheerfully kick the aggressor in the nuts and everyone around would cheer.

That's a nice thought.

Bang! Pow! Boom! was recorded in six months. In order to ensure the quality of his vocal recordings, Bruce did not smoke cannabis while recording, and drank hot tea before each take. According to Bruce, the goal was to produce an album that was "very much a part of the Dark Carnival, without it being the seventh Joker's Card". Bruce listened to music by the psychedelic rock band Gong for inspiration.

sad juggalo is sad

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2007-11/1288634/Juggalo.jpg

RE: Sexual assault at the Gathering of The Juggalos.
Not to open a can of worms here, but if you're dating R.Kelly and then you get pissed on, do you have the right to complain? I would say if you're a big female juggalo fan and you're not into being groped by fat guys, bring a lot of mace.

"She's a Juggalette, she deserved it!"

Stay classy forsclovetofu

let's keep focused on the real issue....ICP LISTENS TO GONG?!?!?!?!

Exactly!

Don't put words in my mouth dude; I'm saying that when the ad for the festival you're going to promotes the "sexual vibes" in the air at this sausagefest, you'd best pack pepperspray and a baton.
But for real: if you are going to Plato's Retreat, shit is gonna go down. If you are in prison, shit is gonna go down. If you're going to the Gathering of the Juggalos there seems to be a high potential for shit to go down.

None of which excuses sexual harassment.

didn't say it did; just that it was likely to be expected!
anyway, can of worms opened I guess. Forget i said anything.

note to self: less R. Kelly metaphors.

Dude, I get what you're saying, but it came off like you were defending that behavior as acceptable, given the environment. That's dangerous.

not my intention.

Alright then. But seriously, GONG?

I might be totally off base but I don't think it's necessarily safe to assume that there would necessarily be significantly more sexual assaults at a juggalo gathering than other male-dominated festival type environments where there is a lot booze/drugs etc. floating around. IDK I could be either overestimating juggalos or underestimating other festival goers or even dudes in general.

at the very very least, the uh juggalo mythos does contain the figure of the 'juggalette', so even if she is subordinate, she at least exists, which the fan universes of plenty of other bands or genres don't even bother with

I don't even know if she's "subordinate" as much as she is "rare", ergo not as much screen time.

in search of the rare mythic juggalette

x-post - Yeah, I think that is partly what was behind my thought process. There also seems to be a really strong sense of family and I just feel like they sort of look out for one another. Also, sexual assaults happen all the time in what may seem like the least likely of places so there is that to bear in mind as well.

u all know of the gathering of the juggalos docu http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/1919300/805059

in search of the rare mythic juggalette
http://www.edu.pe.ca/rural/class_webs/art/images/venus%20of%20willendorf.jpg

seems about right

buncha lonely juggalos sittin round thinkin baout juggalettes

x-post LOOOL

Venus de Juggalette.

the knit cap is the really telling part

when ppl say that most sexual abuse occurs in the family, do they mean Family? srs qn

Yeah, my girl and I re-re-rewatched this last night and her talking point was "So Juggalos look forward to meeting new members of their family and then having sex with them?"

Er, what do you mean by "Family"? Are you talking about that word as used to designate one of any number of social groups, a specific social group, relatives beyond the nuclear family, or what?

what i mean is Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN!

Ah. Then yes.

Near the end of the video, they talk about how great it is to meet all the members of the Juggalo family and then bookends it with "and the sexual energy will be HIGH" and the weird incest vibe juxtaposition was hard to miss.

OK, this was the article I mentioned last night. I think it's a pretty interesting read:

http://www.westword.com/2008-05-15/news/juggalos-band-together-at-primos

"if you are going to Plato's Retreat, shit is gonna go down. If you are in prison, shit is gonna go down. If you're going to the Gathering of the Juggalos there seems to be a high potential for SOME DIFFERENT SHIT TO BE POPPIN OFF EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK."

"if you are going to Plato's Retreat, shit is gonna go down. If you are in prison, shit is gonna go down. If you're going to the Gathering of the Juggalos there seems to be a high potential for SEMINARS."

That Denver article is great:
To save money while they grew their business, Kiki and his wife and daughter were living with Ernie and his wife and kids. Flava and Ken moved in, too. In exchange for Faygo and cigarettes and a place to sleep, they worked at the store six days a week. "What more does a person need?" Flava asks. "Any more than that's greedy."

Kiki seems like a really good guy.

woah...dudes...there's a lot of hatin' going on in the juggalo family....

think about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jneRRHZsPM&feature=related

juffalos?

fuggalos, surely.

Kirstin Dunst can play her in the Juggalo family movie.

TS: juffalos vs juggahos

http://jamescarvin.com/images/misc/bvh.jpg

'bamafield earth

i was looking for a good "whoever wins, we lose" jpg and that took the cake

hey, in the original infomercial..... what is the NEDEN game?

it's like the match game for juggalos and juggalette. also neden is the juggalo word for "vagina"

i'm glad they have their own word for vagina

I'm disappointed by the lack of g00glers. This thread will never live up to previous ICP discussions.

yeah, but this thread has 500 POUNDS OF VICERA (sic)

I was just wondering about the neden thing!
Can you clarify WHY this is the juggalo word for vagina, whiney?

i'm guessing it has something to do with the garden of NEDEN.......

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=haunted%20neden

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=haggard+neden

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLZpKuSJAko

Yeast of Neden

thanks for the link, it even has examples:

"What up you little freaky gothic bitch? You ever fucked a juggalo killa before?"
"Look, I have a haunted neden."
"SHIT! It's all in the good. I got a haunted dick piece, besides, it's raining diamonds. I ain't scurred"

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/icpinsaneclownposse/thenedengame.html

here's a fanmade video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw6C8pob3XU

At 1:00 there's real boobs!

m0stlyClean wins thread for bringing the Viscera reference

q for midwesterners: what does faygo taste like? do you ever see non-juggalos drinking it?

also, wikipedia says 'Faygo's products are notably less expensive than more widely distributed brands'

wtf? how cheap can soda get?

Faygo is a catch-all brand, they make tons of different flavors. Besides the orange, rootbeer, cola, lemon-lime, etc. they have a couple of their own things, my favorite being Rock & Rye which is like some Dr. Pepper / cream soda / cherry hybrid. I think I heard Juggalos are into Red Pop because it's bright red. In terms of cheapness, it's like store brand soda but available everywhere.

I grew up drinking various types of Faygo and the adoption of it as a Juggalo touchstone might be the most WTF aspect of the whole thing to me. I remember it coming in weird shaped glass bottles when I was a kid, and that they had a Mountain Dew rip-off named Moonshine that I seem to recall had a cartoon of a hillbilly on it.

I was living in Denver when that Westword article came out (I think I posted it a while ago on another juggalo-centric thread?), and I remember thinking, "ooooh, so that's why that place is always advertising Faygo!"

http://www.thevernorsstore.com/Resize.asp?path=c:%5CInetPub%5Cwwwroot%5CTheVernorsStore%5Cimages/Faygo/FaygoMoonshine.jpg

don't know if this was linked. not the same picture site i was talking about upthread but loads of past gathering pics. totally not safe for work. mucho clown boobage:

http://www.tryptechnics.com/pictures/GOTJ2004/index.html

i was unaware of the christian slant ...until now:

ICP - Thy Unveiling
It aint About Violent J or Shaggy, the Butterfly or Seventeen.
When we speak of Shangri-La, what you think we mean?
Truth is we follow GOD!!!!
We've always been behind Him!
The Carnival is GOD and may all Juggalos find Him!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssrj-taPkaU

wow

http://www.tryptechnics.com/pictures/GOTJ2004/index.html

Oh, yeah, that looks like a totally sexual assault free space.

Hey Jenny I hope you didn't think that's what I was saying earlier because it's not.

if i were a woman, i would attend the gathering with many many large friends.

Ohhhhh yeah okay, I see what you're saying. Juggalos aren't going to be any worse than, like, Girls Gone Wild Spring Break Booze-n-Tits Festival 2009, just because they are Juggalos. I will buy that, definitely.

xp

i'm sure plenty of, um, juggalettes consider themselves pretty badass though. probably way more badass than me. which isn't saying much.

i still don't get why female juggalos can't be ninjas and have to be ninjettes. i would like to fight for their freedom to be called ninjas.

oh shit those pictures. the guy on page 4 with the head wound, yaow.

also, this, from page 6:

So begins the best story of the weekend
These bitches lost their wallet and were trying to raise money to make it back home
They were charging $1 to see their tits
What started out as $1 for tits turned into $2 for neden
Ed decides to take it to the next level by raising $5 from passerbys to get Josh his first taste of pussy.
Josh eats his first pussy and then Ed interviews him about it.

the deal is that there's no irony in any of this. There's no juggalo wet t-shirt contest even though many of the boys at these things could easily compete in cup size.

x-post - oh god page 6. O_O

OK I know I was getting all captain save a juggalo earlier and I still stand by what I said for the most part but holy shit these fucking pictures are just . . . aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh.

Also:

"This was the travelling lesbian freakshow and the black guy in the background was their pimp.
One of the fat lesbians told us to join them after ICP's set at their campsite
and smoke her baby-daddy's ashes in a blunt who died that year. We passed."

I do hope there's a juggalo message board going to Brooklyn Vegan or whatever and laughing at the galleries and posts of people at Band Of Horses shows.

Because seriously this makes more sense to me

They were charging $1 to see their tits
What started out as $1 for tits turned into $2 for neden
Ed decides to take it to the next level by raising $5 from passerbys to get Josh his first taste of pussy.
Josh eats his first pussy and then Ed interviews him about it.

than

The first time I heard music by Sigur Ros, I cried.

What stuff these tears were made of - sadness, joy, hope, love - I have no idea. I had not just suffered an emotional breakup, or had a frustrating day at work, or been missing my mother (not that I don't miss you, Mom). But somehow these sounds resonated with something deep inside me, something unidentifiable and yet inexplicably familiar, as if these tones had unlocked some collective memory I had been longing to remember my whole life.

worst TS ever.

Seriously Whiney, I know you're being hyperbolic and playing at devil's advocate but come onnnnnnn here.

Anyways, to change the topic:
Gathering of the Spaghettos

i'm not taking sides! I'm just saying it's good to take a step back and remember that everybody is someone else's juggalo.

It's a beautiful thought Whiney. A beautiful, crazy thought.

I think the thing that got to me the most about the pictures was that unlike pictures of men, none of the women were ever named. Their pictures were labeled as "tits" or "bitches," etc. The picture labeler didn't even call them "ninjettes" or "jugalettes," which as Scott pointed out are not great to begin with but are at least potentially affectionate, but instead reduced women at this gathering to pejoratives or body parts. Just super dehumanizing and scary.

There's one picture with the caption something like, "I don't know how old this drunk bitch was but she was showing her titties for beer so she sure was drunk" which led to many pronouncements on my part about "If I ever have a daughter, I would never ever ever ever etc. etc."

I think if I had a son or a daughter and they ended up a Juggalo I would be about as dissapointed as I possible could be save for really big heinous criminal activity or something. I'd much rather them be a Parrothead or into Dave Matthews at least.

Being a Juggalo is almost exactly as annoying as being a born-again Christian, only with the added bonus of ludicrous tattoos and facepaint.

This might be a crossover:

http://www.unknownhighway.com/images/uploads/fighting-jesus.jpg

One of the fat lesbians told us to join them after ICP's set at their campsite
and smoke her baby-daddy's ashes in a blunt who died that year. We passed."

what!!!!!!

I know. I would have loved to have seen my face as I was looking at that site last night. Maybe I live a sheltered life but goddamn it was pretty O_O.

yeah, there will be some regret in those young juggalos' lives in later years; that's a one time offer.

er, xpost

whiney totally otm re juggalos vs. Sigur Ros fans

this event sounds like a lot of fun except for the juggalos that will be there

no, whiney totally not otm

hell is other juggalos

Sigur Ros Family needs to stick together y'all. Fuck the haters.

Whiney, you badass! I never would have guessed bragging about scoring poon for cash "made more sense" to you than oversharing about your emotional reaction to an indie rock song. I never would have guessed.

You should make your twitter a fuck diary!

1000timesBREASTS

wallotitties.jpg

this thread got dark

dark carnival

Forks, wtf at that Spaghettos link

this thread is the seventh joker card

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2446/3743121070_cc590d1586.jpg

album cover for SEMINARS, the 7th Joker's Card

this is the way the world ends, not with a bang but with a seminar and highly trained BBQ chefs

the hollow juggalos

and with a lot of sex in the air, don't doubt it.

this thread got dark

― tulsa anti-juggalo league (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, July 28, 2009 1:42 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

Here, have some cuddling penguins. Better?

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/kroquet/LisaFrankPenguin.jpg

even the penguins look like juggalos on this thread

haha I was going to say the same thing

way to ruin rainbow penguins

http://www.cockatielcare.co.uk/cockatiel_care.jpg

juggalo cockatiel

idk, I have a lot more sympathy for someone who clings to The Juggalos to create some experience of companionship and family in his/her life than for some pampered annoying Sigur Ros fan. The Sigur Ros fan is less dysfunctional, fucked up, and annoying, but also far less sympathetic a character.

All you ILXors are my Juggalos :)

http://icp.meetup.com/cities/us/tx/houston/

fine mordy but it's gonna cost you more than $5 to chow that cockatiel's box, just sayin'

I love this btw, "Ed decides to take it to the next level by raising $5 from passerbys to get Josh his first taste of pussy." He raised money to help his Juggalo-bro. They're demented and fucked, but they're looking out for each other!

sigur ros box cost 5000 liberian dollars

The melody unlocked long lost emotions of paying $5 for getting first taste

a taste of "victory rose"

I actually agree with Mordy's statement above re jugs v. SR fans but that still doesn't make the culture any less horrifying but like I was trying to say yesterday this kind of shit exists all over the place just maybe not so obviously.

if you don't think liking sigor ros is ten times worse than teenage parking lot prostitution, you're not paying attention

we can't really compare the two events unless the kid had a bunch of pictures of him crying with his headphones on

x-post - LOOOOOOOL

Sigur Ros fans perpetuate the economic conditions that culminate in parking lot prostitution.

It aint About Violent J or Shaggy, the Butterfly or Seventeen.
When we speak of Shangri-La, what you think we mean?
Truth is we follow GOD!!!!
We've always been behind Him!
The Carnival is GOD and may all Juggalos find Him!

― SUNNY ☺))) (Future_Perfect), Monday, July 27, 2009 9:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i was totally unprepared for this - brilliant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZfxDE2nncU

I thought the God stuff was common knowledge by now? It wasn't really a surprise, not if you listened to more than one of their songs.

so are they officially christians or are they just weird theists?

they've always been about elucidating christian principles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf_Xgym_tk0

Alienated mid-west teenagers believe in clown paint AND god shocker?

i thought the xtian element was some revisionist fan-added shit by a few fans?

a cult within a cult

sort of like the early christians, among jews

think about it

The Martyrdom of Violet J.

VIOLENT

dudes you wanna break it down you gotta address the BUTTERFLY:

Violent J: "I was maybe 7 years old. My brother Rob was around 8 or 9 I guess. We were outside playing in front of our house in suburban Berkley, MI. I remember it was a regular summer afternoon, we were hanging out in the yard or whatever when my brother Rob screamed 'Joe I caught a giant butterfly! Hurry up and get the jar!' I grabbed the jar off the steps and ran over to him. Somehow, some way, he had actually managed to catch one of them big ass, pretty, orange, yellow and black butterflies right out of the air with his bare hands. Unbelievable. If you remember anything about being a kid, you remember them things are un-catchable. They'll fuckin' sit there and dance, slow motion, in the air style, right around your fuckin' face while you bust your ass trying to catch it. Somehow, on this regular summer afternoon, Rob happened to scoop it right out of flight with his bare hands. 'Hurry, get the jar opened up and ready, I can feel its wings trying to get away!'

Finally we had it safely and sound in the jar with the fresh poked holes in the lid and everything. We knew that we'd better let it go soon though. We looked at this creature as an animal more than an insect. Plus being that age, this animal was more than just a bug to us. It was our homie. We decided we would just have it spend one night with us and we'd let it go in the morning. Plus we figured a whole family of giant butterflies might even come looking for it if we didn't. I mean this butterfly was so big, and colorful in that jar. It even looked like it had fur on it. It was absolutely awesome.

That night, as usual it was hot as hell in our bed room, so we took the fan and pointed it right into the holes of the butterfly's jar. We didn't think much of it at the time other than hopefully the butterfly will be comfortable while he's spending this night with us.

The following morning, much, much, to our sadness, the Butterfly was dead. Our guess was it had to be the fan blowing on it all night. We didn't mean to harm this beautiful, giant Butterfly at all. We were painfully crushed.

We had a funeral right there in our backyard for it that morning. We buried it in this lil' empty box on top of some napkins and stuff. As we were paying our last respects to this butterfly, both me and my brother Rob made a vow - right then and there we made this vow: "One day, we will both make it to Heaven and apologize to the Butterfly, face to face."

We made that vow when we were just two lil' young-ass kids, but what better time than then? That was us at our cleanest and purest form. We were so loving, only because were were still so untouched and unscatched by the real world. That yard was the only world we knew back then. We didn't know any real negatives, or realties even, because they are kept from most young children. We were at our cleanest points that morning. Ready for the world with our first vow and goal to complete in life.

We didn't know the differences between white, black or Asian people, boys or girls, east sidaz or west sidaz, Jewish or Muslim people. None of that shit mattered to us then, and it still shouldn't. We just looked for smiling faces back then, and we still should.

Look at us all now. It was the world around us that instilled all the hatred and wacky beliefs upon us all. We become one with the world as we walked through it. Once we live some life, our souls ain't as clean anymore. We all got a lil' bit older, we didn't care as much anymore about butterflies or what colors their wings had. We learned who we are supposed to hate, who we should love and even flat out how we should be as people. All of which is taught to us by other people! And who the fuck are they? We spend our entire lives trying not to do what ever is considered "stale" by everybody else. Well fuck that! Consider us stale as fuck then. We some four-week-old, desert-dried-Wonder-Bread, stale-ass individuals then.

We will one day complete our vows before we pass. I want to be as clean as I was when I was 7. I want my own heart telling me what to do and how to live. We will rid our souls of this garbage that was pounded into it, and once again respect the beauty of some fresh ass shit like a Butterfly's wings. One day, we will get to Heaven and apologize to the Butterfly, just like we said we would. We're going to Shangri-La, baby. Sorry if that upsets you... wait, no we ain't! Fuck off if that upsets you. The bottom line is we want nothing more out of the rest of our lives but to see you Juggalos there in Shangri-La with us."

violent j. christ

They are weird Christians (there's a reason I compared them to Born-Agains).

i thought the xtian element was some revisionist fan-added shit by a few fans?

uh, NO

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wraith:_Shangri-La

well i dont understand the phenomenon
we fuckin these hoes that look like spallala
rich boys think that its shit
but i like fuckin crack heads with one tit
and i do it at the drop of a dime
and i get the scabies almost everytime
so lets talk about my nut sac
i dont front jack, i got bugs on my ball sac.

well i'm Violent Jay and it aint no bitch
i'm always quick to tell ya when my nuts itch
cuz bitch if i'm itchin when i come home
drop a brick in a sock and swing it on your dome
you didn't think nothin of it just lemme stick it
probably should of known cuz
i thought i heard crickets in your bed
but i wouldn't say nothin though
i wouldn't say nothin til i'm done nuttin ho
and i'm like bitch how can this be?
i'm tryin to sleep while my nuts are up watching tv
and they try to walk to the store and get a 40
how these bugs get one me?!
somebody asks me how i got scabies
probably that homeless fat red neck bag lady
that i fucked in a shed
then the little critters on my dingaling said...

yo nuts we want your nuts
we'll itch and scratch and bite yo nuts
yo nuts we want yo nuts
please oh please fuck dirty butts
yo nuts we want yo nuts
we'll itch and scratch and bite yo nuts
yo nuts we want yo nuts
please oh please fuck dirty sluts

Birds on my boots and i dont give a hoot
Cuz i got me a purty womans love

i met this bitch and went up in it
dropped her off went to the clinic
bitch i got bizugs on my shiznet
so tell me what's up with that?
should of have said something about your bug problem
now i'm gonna have to slap you in your mouth bitch!
cant keep my muthafuckin hands out my drawers
stick a roach motel up under your balls
nah, i'd rather stick em in a deep fry
and sizzle those muthafuckas off my wang

so you wanna fuck around
always gotta buck around
lift up your dingaling nuthin but a buggy farm
now they call you funky nuts cuz you like funky butts
scratchin and bitin them then they call you monkey nuts
but i aint sayin nothin cuz you aint playin nothin
bring the track back and i'll get back to the nuts sac track

i'm tryin to rap but the bugs are bitin
but i aint going out like a bitch yo fuck that
stick em in a blender and hit the switch then i hit the bitch
met this bum in the back of a dumpster
fucked her in a rumpster juggaluga humpster
had to take a piss so i pulled out my wang
then i heard my dingaling sing...

yo nuts we want yo nuts
we'll itch and scratch and bite your nuts
yo nuts we want yo nuts
please oh please fuck dirty butts
yo nuts we want yo nuts
we'll itch and scratch and bite yo nuts
yo nuts we want yo nuts
please oh please fuck dirty sluts (x4)

IN HIM John 3:16

once again respect the beauty of some fresh ass shit like a Butterfly's wings

I thought the God stuff was common knowledge by now? It wasn't really a surprise, not if you listened to more than one of their songs.

― Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! (HI DERE), Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:09 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

u accusing me of listening to more than one icp song

I don't think I posted this here yet, but I listened to one of their songs recently, "Another Love Song." They sing, "I could go to school instead and get my diploma / I'd rather mount your head on my wall until you fall into a coma." Not only are they asserting violence as a valuable alternative to higher education, but I worry that they think the coma will happen AFTER the decapitation. This suggests that they could've benefited from a higher education even in pursuing their violent misogyny.

We spend our entire lives trying not to do what ever is considered "stale" by everybody else. Well fuck that! Consider us stale as fuck then. We some four-week-old, desert-dried-Wonder-Bread, stale-ass individuals then.

^truth bomb

http://i.tsn.com/i/photos/20081014/99754.jpg

protojuggalo

not gonna lie, I want to go home and play the song John just posted because it's a jam

i met this bitch and went up in it
dropped her off went to the clinic
bitch i got bizugs on my shiznet
so tell me what's up with that?
should of have said something about your bug problem
now i'm gonna have to slap you in your mouth bitch!
cant keep my muthafuckin hands out my drawers
stick a roach motel up under your balls
nah, i'd rather stick em in a deep fry
and sizzle those muthafuckas off my wang

i gathered they had some kind of comic book universe that people take very seriously but i did not think it was supposed to be a hidden christian evangelical thing, any more than the jedi force was or whatever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJIF5VtUfiI

oh sweet

you didn't think nothin of it just lemme stick it
probably should of known cuz
i thought i heard crickets in your bed

btw this is wrong; it's "i thought i heard crickets in your neden"

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?

I feel so conflicted about juggalos now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JsYdpsFVDU

also a jam btw

I was kinda wondering if anybody was gonna comment on the spaghettos.

It's all fun and games until someone loses a dick.

i see i was mispronouncing "neden"

Sepultube (1 week ago)

i dont hate icp dipshit, i luv icp, but this album sucked ass. everything that came out before the great milenko is garbage for the most part.

o_O waht

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzDJEyULe6A

another track I like

i gathered they had some kind of comic book universe that people take very seriously but i did not think it was supposed to be a hidden christian evangelical thing, any more than the jedi force was or whatever

― cryingneden.jpg (goole), Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:18 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

icp made up this ott violent degraded shit as a marketing gimmick - hopeless losers took it way too seriously - they started to feel guilty and pretended it was positive god shit all along

lmao "BUT MAYBE I DIDN'T..."

icp made up this ott violent degraded shit as a marketing gimmick - hopeless losers took it way too seriously - they started to feel guilty and pretended it was positive god shit all along

The thing is, there's a bunch of gross sex stuff in their music and a bunch of revenge fantasy violence screeds, but interwoven as far back as Ringmaster is the idea that someone is judging you for all the fucked-up shit you are doing and that you should, you know, not do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in7z3zt-rjU&feature=related

I fucking love pretty much the whole Ringmaster album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WEZCfZtZUI&feature=related

This is for JJJUSTEN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15fCvyz_xT8&feature=related

I will continue posting these until someone tells me to shut the fuck up btw

I would never do that.

The thing is, there's a bunch of gross sex stuff in their music and a bunch of revenge fantasy violence screeds, but interwoven as far back as Ringmaster is the idea that someone is judging you for all the fucked-up shit you are doing and that you should, you know, not do it.

― Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! (HI DERE), Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:29 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haa dan as much as im disturbed by yr affection for this truly awful music the knowledge u bring to the thread is appreciated

(btw there is a reason why everything I've posted has come from Ringmaster and Riddle Box; there is pretty much no point to hearing anything they did outside of these albums and the "Terror Wheel" and "Tunnel of Love" EPs aside from random selected songs like "Hey Vato" and "Red Christmas")

wow really? cos what you posted pretty much blows

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tObDnHdmYfM&feature=related

here, for example, is one of the "fuck up and you go to hell" songs; "The Killing Fields" from Riddle Box

wow really? cos what you posted pretty much blows

eh, it is still about a million times better than everything else they did

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOadK20lcbk&feature=related

I used to play this on repeat

I am thinking I probably went crazy some time in 1997 and never actually noticed...?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn7u-6pxU0I&feature=related

ANOTHER ONE FOR JJJUSTEN

i can't play any of this shit in the office, can i?

Guys, it's time to ask: What are we doing here?

i can't play any of this shit in the office, can i?

if you have headphones, yes

I am thinking I probably went crazy some time in 1997 and never actually noticed...?

― Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! (HI DERE), Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:48 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

omg spoken like a true juggalo

can i go off for a minute? this doesn't even sound like an honest musical expression to me, like it doesn't even make sense as a kind of hip-hop unless you've already bought into the juggalo cult thing. it's like watching someone play parappa or something, it's not meant to survive on its own up against actual music -- all the conspiratorial joker card fake religion shit reinforces this, "rich boys" against you, judging you, etc. plus everyone involved is profoundly weak as an mc... it's like rastafarianism, only the only oppression it's meant to salve is that you're a dumb loser

... or it's kind of funny and silly?

I mean, I don't know exactly how fucked up my life would have had to hav been to take these guys seriously

it's like watching someone play parappa or something

XD

ill admit to being kinda touched by the losers unite juggalo ethos - these are people so routinely written off ignored and derided that its v meaningful for them to find others who understand even if its a super shitty scene - its easy to be all but lol its just losers why dont they wise up - but for whatever reason thats just who they are

I liked them when they were doing silly sound-effect nonsense and spacy creepy stuff; the big problem with their original stuff and with the stuff from Milenko on is that, aside from a couple of songs, they sound like they're trying to be legit, and they suck too hard to be legit, so they are better off being goofy sound-effect driven caricatures.

(but then again they've made a fuckton more money than I have so apparently they've been doing something right re: this whole "cultivate a slavish cult with poor critical faculties" marketing plan)

At the moment that the "normal" police and military resources of the bourgeois dictatorship, together with their parliamentary screens, no longer suffice to hold society in a state of equilibrium -- the turn of the fascist regime arrives. Through the fascist agency, capitalism sets
in motion the masses of the crazed petty bourgeoisie and the bands of declassed and demoralized lumpenproletariat -- all the countless human beings whom finance capital itself has brought to desperation and frenzy.

i mean either way this shit is way better to talk about than listen to

not to piss anyone off, but is this like the rocky horror of today's youth?

I actually really like Parappa's music. Certainly more than i like ICP.

That Busdriver song lifts Parappa!

xxpost -- Don't dream it, be it.

don't really get these guys (in the same way that i don't get ppl who are really into horror movies)

Aargh! HUGE distinction, thank you very much!

we horror aesthetes have a refined taste for the macabre, whereas Juggalos are Spam-sucking, knuckle-dragging trailer-dwellers.

Keep telling yourself next when you sit next to one at Saw XIV

Yourself THAT etc.

Was it ICP or slipknot I saw Douglas Rushkoff headbanging to in a PBS documentary on corporate youth culture?

I'm from Michigan, so I have lived among these people & lol @ the challopy academic curiosity over Juggalos as an inclusive-society on this thread. These people are urchins. The lowest of the low. If fucking ICP, professional wrestling & goddam Faygo soda (looove rock & rye btw) give them a context in which to bond together & comfort themselves from their sucking-void existences, hey why not?

lol do i have to quote trotsky again

I mean, you've all seen their collective failure to grasp the very basics of language usage.

huh.

I get both the "written off and ignored" aspect and the "lowest of the low" thing (to some degree at least), and I think that's what I find so fascinating about Juggalos. I'm from Michigan too and saw Juggalos around there a lot, and see them a lot in sorta-methy western towns a lot too, it's like a peek at a big contingent of people who you never see represented anywhere at all, just passed over completely. It's the same reason I love Jesse from Breaking Bad, who might as well be a Juggalo - sketchy, dead-end, fake badass posturing dudes who are everywhere.

this animal was more than just a bug to us. It was our homie.

btw Ned: Saw movies? please. Everybody knows that the French are the go-to ninjas for quality torture-porn these days.

Sorry Pillbox, I meant Scie Quatorzième

joygoat, yeah I get the Breaking Bad comparison, and you've almost got me with it. But I guess my main problem with Juggalos culture is simply that it embraces willful ignorance, which is hard for me to tolerate in any form.

"Jesse from Breaking Bad, who might as well be a Juggalo - sketchy, dead-end, fake badass posturing dudes who are everywhere."

If juggalos are secretly flunk-outs from upper-middle-class high-achiever families, everyone should feel much better heaving abuse upon them.

Jesse's the flunk-out older brother of the junior honor-roll wunderkind right?

tbf dudes this is getting a little too "why does juggalos never want to rock?" for my tastes

So Jesse probably should have ended up a Phish dude instead of a Juggalo.

Disdainful as I am of their cultural merits, I'd still be all about it if one of you gonzo ILX journa-bloggers is willing to go to this thing & go all DF Wallace on the Juggalos. I'll even give you some gas money if you set up a PayPal account. Seriously, someone should do this.

we should warn them that we're sending a music nerd to "go all df wallace on them"... wouldn't be fair otherwise

it might not be fair, but I think it would be an interesting challenge to try to blend in.

yeah it's gonna be real hard for a music writer to go out dressed like a slob

I'm wearing a XXL Wu-Tang shirt I had in 11th grade btw

"Consider the Juggalo"

thread keeps giving

How would you feel about mixing up some grease-paint w/ that Wu T, Whiney? You could be the man for the job.

Oh here it is: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/cool/view/
chapter 6

I would love to do this. Whiney, u and me? Road trip?

Look guys

I would love to do this but know that in reality I'd probably last all of a couple hours before I couldn't actually handle it.

Maybe not even that long tbh.

I have had serious thoughts about writing a book on Juggolo culture for about 5 years now. They're totally fascinating, and I'm super glad these people have a support group. I'd just be really worried that alt dudes would pick it up expecting some snarky, ironic "laugh at the freak show element" when I really just think these people deserved to be painted accurately

Whiney why are you're letting what people think stop you? you can't worry about why people pick up a book dude. write the thing and let people snark all they want

seriously i would read the hell out of a juggalo book

tbf dudes this is getting a little too "why does juggalos never want to rock?" for my tastes - I'm done w/ my Juggalo ranting, but I don't get this. This is not a race of people, it is an organization of individuals who have voluntarily chosen to uphold an anti-ideal. Writing off Juggalos wholesale is no worse than writing off Scientologists or any other organization whose stated values one might reprehensible.

*find reprehensible

juggalos not a choice!

this juggalo had fingernails at only five weeks

seriously i would read the hell out of a juggalo book

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:26 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

I really just think these people deserved to be painted accurately

http://www.juggaloworld.net/paintup/J/JawsJuggalo01.jpg

Que,

Well also, I wouldn't want the Juggalos to think I was making fun of them. And if it got coverage "ironically" from all the sites, that would be really sad for all the people who donated their time and stories to me.

like i said--once you write a book, it's out of your hands.

i bet that banksy guy would love juggalos too bad he's british

Que,

Well also, I wouldn't want the Juggalos to think I was making fun of them. And if it got coverage "ironically" from all the sites, that would be really sad for all the people who donated their time and stories to me.

― fuck plies IMO (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:29 PM (25 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah that's very good, and makes me even more sad cuz i miss DFW and he would have gotten himself all in knots about that

Damn, J0rdan, you beat me to it..

i think if you hung out with them for awhile and gained their trust, they'd understand that you writing the book about them is 100% separate from some dickcheese on the internet making fun of them & your book

That PBS show paints them in 2001 as frustrated teens grabbing onto a mishmash of (increasingly corporatized) grassroots misogyny and homophobia and calling it a subculture. Is this an inaccurate portrayal then/today?

"I would love to do this. Whiney, u and me? Road trip?"

Let Us Now Praise Famous Ninjas All Up In This Bitch

seriously i would read the hell out of a juggalo book

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:26 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

― ENBB, Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:28 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

me too, unironically and all.

i would give that book such an ironic read i'd be holding it upside down and shit

There is really nothing I would love more than to take a year and talk to juggalos. The unity and sense of something bigger than themselves based on a MUSICAL GROUP is really inspiring to me

if you worry it will be read by those that would mock juggalos just make it so humorlessly earnest that readers laugh at you instead of the juggalos

That PBS show paints them in 2001 as frustrated teens grabbing onto a mishmash of (increasingly corporatized) grassroots misogyny and homophobia and calling it a subculture. Is this an inaccurate portrayal then/today?

Not really. The problem with dressing your earnest God message up with violent and misogynistic imagery is that you teach people to love God by being violent and misogynistic.

Whiney, fuck worrying about how an unwritten book would be misinterpreted! Pack up the laptop and ROAD TRIP WOOT WOOT

tbh Whiney a lot of your concerns seem like concerns that someone who wrote a book would want to have, seeing as said book would have been published and read by a bunch of people

also...basically isn't ICP the band that's actually *doing* all the stuff that smart-guy media dudes say bands need to do in the post-downloading era?

i mean, radiohead's in rainbows thing just seems like a cute little gimmick in comparison

Let's start a kickstarter pledge fund and if we get enough money to cover tix/food/hotel/gas/etc, I'll take the time off from work and we can go write a book!
http://www.kickstarter.com/

I am dead fuckin' serious here!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUOvnbCtnVQ

How do you guys interpret this?
Is he mocking them or sincerely embracing them?

nah WK is sincere i bet....

i met him at a ECW event in SF once and he was like super enthusiastic even though there were literally like 15 ppl there and no one cared

it could be the defining event of our generation! You and me whiney! Hunter S. Thompson and Tom Wolfe of the aughties! The Solar Powered Faygo Crystal Meth Test!

we need to do this!

deep breaths

WK seems like the most sincere dude on the planet! Like, he genuinely seems pleased to be wherever he is at any given moment.

Whiney, this is your opportunity! It's knockin'!

The celebration of homophobia, violence, misogyny & in general, ignorance is pretty hard for me to get past & the main reason I cast off Juggalo culture so handily, but I would be legitimately curious about Whiney's book for the same reasons made, say, Under the Banner of Heaven or Lords of Chaos appealing & I think many would approach such a book in the same way. Go for it, dude!

I don't know if they still do it but they used to have all of these lyrics about being straight-A students before they "snapped" and turned into WICKED CLOWNS.

tbf dudes this is getting a little too "why does juggalos never want to rock?" for my tastes - I'm done w/ my Juggalo ranting, but I don't get this. This is not a race of people, it is an organization of individuals who have voluntarily chosen to uphold an anti-ideal. Writing off Juggalos wholesale is no worse than writing off Scientologists or any other organization whose stated values one might reprehensible.

― Juice Hugalow: Hale Juggalo (Pillbox), Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:26 PM (22 minutes ago)

problem im having is that a bunch of people on this thread seem to take the dead-end meth head dumb thing (oh btw pretty sure that this is code for calling them white trash) as a given - same shit thats been leveled at metal dudes or certain non-intellectual punks (and with a diff racial spin blingy hip hop and "murder rap".) pretty sure theres plenty of upper middle class disaffected teens listening to this stuff as well. that and more directly i have no idea what upholding an anti-ideal is supposed to mean? like, just that what they enjoy is meritless in your eyes? which is fine, but that just makes it shit you aren't into, not some nihilist whatever.

xpostsss

The celebration of homophobia, violence, misogyny & in general, ignorance is pretty hard for me to get past & the main reason I cast off Juggalo culture so handily

uh this is basically a rinse and repeat of the down the nose supposedly damning mid 90s talking head pundit reaction to gangsta rap btw

jjjusten otttm

Looks like two guys going to this think would run about two grand for transportation, food, hotel, etc. I think I have the contacts to get backstage, interviews, maybe even tix.

No one on this thread is going to argue that ICP is the greatest band ever to exist. A couple of us are going to argue that they are sometimes very funny. I specifically will argue that they hit a zone for a few albums where I really, really liked their music but then they got successful and nu-metalled themselves into something really shitty.

How do you guys interpret this?
Is he mocking them or sincerely embracing them?

― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:48 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

nah WK is sincere i bet....

i have a hard time believing anything WK does is sincere but I honestly don't really get him, he is beyond sincerity and irony.

i'm gonna be out of town, forks, so I can't spray the faygo with you this year

i have no idea what upholding an anti-ideal is supposed to mean? - clumsy phrasing, probably, but I was generally referring to the willful embrace of ignorance that I was ranting about on previous posts. But I've since been thinking about it & yeah, you do find a lot of the same ugliness in metal & rap culture, two groups I'm far more sympathetic with, so I'll cop to harboring some double-standards. That said, The Juggalos do seem a lot more ritualistic in their depravity. Like they have a manifesto or some shit.

aw.
i was actually getting serious about this. Making calls.

Dan? Generation-defining story? Two grand? You in?

Whiney, if you're serious about the book and your doubts, you could talk to the dude who wrote that book on Christian rock called Body Piercing Saved My Life. I read it and it was rad and I learned a ton about a subculture that's often written off, but the guy seemed to want to tell their story straight. Something similar on the Juggalos, man...grow some fucking balls and do it.

There is no fucking way my black ass is going to this.

I don't think AWK is naive or unself-aware enough that he didn't know behaving that way would produce that reaction, but what do you guys think of their reaction? -- There seem to be at least a few who are "in" on what he is doing. What about that kid who goes "FUCK ANDREW WK", then comes back and goes "nah, I'm just playin'"

If what AWK is offering is non-judgmental acceptance and enthusiasm, and a good portion of juggalos reject it, it's kind of damning, and I suspect AWK kind of anticipated this on some level, and his gee-whiz happy-go-lucky persona is some passive aggressive way to expose this, maybe not against juggalos in particular, but that's how it played out when he went there.

i honestly might, guys. xxpost

If I lend you a white ass, will you do it?

um, AWK was offering non-judgmental acceptance, enthusiasm and the sight of a grody motivational speaker headbanging to an E Street Band album played at chipmunk speed. Pretty sure most festival audiences would reject it.

xposst

is this like when jhoshea proposed an actual 77 magainze

keep reading that as Any Wody Killer

I just think this would be a fun memorable experience but it is not one that I would undertake without somebody who's got my back and who would collaborate on writing a book about it.

or maybe not even fun, but certainly worth trying!
THE GUY IS BEING SHOT OUT OF A CANNON THREE TIMES A DAY!
THEY HAVE BOUNCY HOUSES!

This is end of empire WRIT LARGE

"Pretty sure most festival audiences would reject it."
I suppose it would be pretty damning of most festival audiences, ha! The manner of rejection, I think is key, though. I think it speaks well of juggalos that no one attempted to knife him (or was that what the security guy trying to prevent by pulling him off?)

This thread makes me proud to be an ILXor, guys. Srs tears in my eyes.

I know it's probably a coincidence, but I love how that threatening trash can disappears from above the crowd immediately when the music finally starts, as if it was no longer necessary to kill him

What JJ said above is crucial to this whole thing, btw.

This thread makes me proud to be an ILXor, guys. Srs tears in my eyes.

― Mordy, Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:31 PM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha this. this thread put me in such a good mood yday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kqlVXzy2n4

This is not "good" but it is kind of funny.

I'm from Michigan, so I have lived among these people & lol @ the challopy academic curiosity over Juggalos as an inclusive-society on this thread. These people are urchins. The lowest of the low. If fucking ICP, professional wrestling & goddam Faygo soda (looove rock & rye btw) give them a context in which to bond together & comfort themselves from their sucking-void existences, hey why not?

OK, I just read this entire thread, links included & then cringed when I got to this (my) post. It was unnecessarily harsh to begin with & also my mind has changed about the subculture somewhat, especially due to the Denver News article. I was unaware that these people, regardless of their (still questionable) musical reasons for assembly, had such a family-oriented & supportive network which is largely a safe haven for outcasts who don't fit in anywhere else and who are accepted pretty much unconditionally, it seems. In this sense, the Juggalos are a very egalitarian bunch!

And so, here goes: I'm sorry ILX. I'm sorry Juggalos. I was wrong.

Please understand the context of my original opinion, though: The original ICP fanbase, which sprung up grassroots-style in southern MI, largely consisted of the sort of dudes who drove mini-trucks, called you "faggot" & tended to start fights without provocation or reason. This, compounded with what I've observed on YouTube comment threads and such is why I was not down with the clown.

mad clown love my ninja

Don't worry, Pillbox. You still my juggalo.

The Great Pillboxo

pillbox you are forgiven but we're gonna need to see wdyll+face paint to accept u

All SORTS OF MAD CLOWN LOVE BE POPPIN OFF IN THIS BITCH. THANKS NINJAS!

avuenjo - hmmm, we'll see..

Whiney has the start of his book now -- how a non-fan saw the light and joined the carnival.

take that ninja along!

whiney is afraid of the dark carnival cause he knows once he goes in hell never come out

fuck a book i want a road movie of this

 Gabe:  hey man. I think I got out of hand recently with the internetsl
sorry
 me:  u r bord?
 Sent at 11:45 PM on Tuesday
 Gabe:  no I was horny for juggalo aggression vibes
now I know it was causing me to go crazy
I got kind of obsessed
holy it is deep though
yes I am bored boulder is full of stupid
 Gabe:  boulder = juggalo with money and yoga
 me:  juggalos could use some yoga they mad fat yo
 Gabe:  internets joe s has cracked me up more than one of these fools. pablo some time cracks me up .. but he does not get certain ammusing qualities ..boulder is strange
"Last Solo Show Fo' a Year or Mo'"
WTF
come on
 me:  btw im sure its occurred to you that yr v close to primos and could go visit anytime
 Gabe:  who is primo?
 me:  u did read the article abt the denver juggalos no
 Gabe:  no?
send me
 me:  wtf dood
 Gabe:  what is primos
the muder axe boys?
sorry but I was busy gettting invited to this : "Last Solo Show Fo' a Year or Mo'", my nina
ninaja
 me:  i am totally yr enabler w/this shit everyone else all o_O http://www.westword.com/2008-05-15/news/juggalos-band-together-at-primos
 Gabe:  rad!
thanks joe.
I will only talk to you about it from now on
 me:  np why is this james last show fo a year o mo
whats he doin
 Gabe: I do not want to know.
I do not dig his vibe and he does not dig mine
he is like a super clean friendly juggalo
 me:  u see juggalos everywhere
 Gabe:  james live and awake!?
that is so juggalo
yes. I have been seeing them everywhere. its very very upsetting
the xian thing really has me fucked up yo!
"Last Solo Show Fo' a Year or Mo'" = my ninja
 Gabe: this shit is sooooo deeep
but I suppose I should only speak of it to you. I am sure toby was traumatized.
 Sent at 12:01 AM on Wednesday
 Gabe:  just joking toby is fine. he is just judging my path as a buddhist as usual .. thinking I am straying from the way.. when in reality I am practicing more then ever and reading about juggalos
DEAL
 Sent at 12:03 AM on Wednesday
 me:  what u been doin - o u know meditating, obsessing abt juggalos, the usual
 Gabe:  OMG the primos article just fucking blew my mind
NO!!!!
 me:  go to there
its not far
 Gabe:  should I ???
I want to bring a girl with me
lol
ok I will go
 me:  yes plz take pix of yrself w/the juggalos
 Gabe:  for YOU
ok.
 me:  ty <3
 Gabe:  thats sound like so much fun
ok
but what if they get angry at me
 me:  just be nice
be like ive been reading abt u guys was curious just wanted to drop by and say sup drink some faygo u know
 Gabe:  you just made me almost pee
I do not want to taste the faygo
i fear it will do something horrible to me
turn me into a monster
 me:  turn u into a clown
i heard they hav a lot of flavors
 Gabe:  WTF!!!!??? "We're all one family. We're united. We're from everywhere. Jocks are juggalos. Rich kids are juggalos. Poor kids are juggalos. Everybody's a ninja. Your grandma could be a juggalo — you just don't know it.""
NO!!!!!!
they are everywhere
 me:  watch out

i got into an argument with my girl tonight when i told her "yah for like a half hour I kinda was serious about getting some cash together and going to the GotJ but I'd totally need someone to ride with me and get my back" and she was all like "well i'd do it" and I was like "no you wouldn't for various reasons" and her being like "you think you know me so well, but i could totally do this" and me like "i wouldn't even want you to" and her "what you think i'd get raped" and me "dude, I think _I_ would get raped and besides you wouldn't even enjoy it" and her like "I would too, I bet I'd enjoy it a lot" and so on and so on for like fifteen minutes until this culminated with me yelling into a cell phone in the middle of Times Square "Well then GO! GO TO ILLINOIS TO BE WITH THE JUGGALOS AND SLEEP IN A CAR! HAVE A GREAT TIME WITH THE JUGGALOS!"
I am not a great boyfriend all the time.

tbf I say this to my gf all the time and we get along great: "Well then GO! GO TO ILLINOIS TO BE WITH THE JUGGALOS AND SLEEP IN A CAR! HAVE A GREAT TIME WITH THE JUGGALOS!"

Ok to Chris you said "You and me whiney! Hunter S. Thompson and Tom Wolfe of the aughties! The Solar Powered Faygo Crystal Meth Test!" and to Dan you said "If I lend you a white ass, will you do it?" But to your girl you say "dude, I think _I_ would get raped and besides you wouldn't even enjoy it." I am trying to not to infer subtext.

forksclove-TEEEEEEEEEEEEN

Anthony, the reason I'd want to do this in the first place is to work with someone on the process of crafting several unpleasant but memorable days into a piece of social commentary and I've learned from experience that the girl and I do not write well together. Above and beyond that, this is just an environment that I wouldn't want to bring someone I care deeply about into?

"social commentary/autobio/clownface Studs Turkel" etc.

I, Juggalo and all that.

Anyway, do YOU wanna do this?

actually the moment's kinda passed for me already. The idea of going to the GotJ is the sort of thing that really really doesn't hold up to scrutiny; I was looking for someone to be sufficiently dumb enough to egg on my ANYTHING IS POSSSSSSIBLEEEEE moment

or encouraging. dumb, encouraging. whatever.

lol dude I was just joshin your homoerotic wordchoice. And while I agree with Dan that ICP have dropped some genuinely entertaining tracks, the day I spent six years ago at a small press expo in Ohio that was actually 2/3rds juggalos waiting in line to visit the ICP MERCH STAND (no bands, no one signing anthing, just MERCH) is all the experience I need.

how could you possibly misconstrue my offer of white ass as homoerotic?

Is it asspainted?

juggalos waiting in line to visit the ICP MERCH STAND

Misread this as ICP METH STAND.

lol me too

hah

is whiney doing the book then?

one of my editors suggested the name Black And White Like Me

if i do it, it'll be next year. i'm booked solid for aug. Be sure to remind me.

i'm on when you are.

you all a bunch of talkers.

my friend gabe went to primos today

I'm sorry ILX. I'm sorry Juggalos. I was wrong.

This is some straight up heartfelt shit right here. There's a lot of <3 in this thread.

x-post - !!! Was Kiki there?

hes gonna send me a detailed report w/pix - will post here - he sounded pretty disappointed tho - dont think there were many clowns around

he originally sent me the gathering infomercial and i was all o i bet theres an ilx thread on this shit - sure enough

Anxiously awaiting further details.

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/a/a9/Typicaljuggalo.jpg

I have seen that picture multiple times and it still does nothing but raise questions.

^^^^me and whiney in '10^^^^

haha there's a little breakfast club over at the bleachers. probably breaking down facades and learning to accept each other's differences there, no doubt.

You're just not ready for the real dark carnival, Dan.

pretty sure that's the dank carnival

the dark carvinal (tent, as a shirt, to wear, more like)

That's what too much Faygo does to you.

http://www.gotoquiz.com/are_you_a_true_juggalo

Your Result: Juggahoe Alert!! Load your glocks!!

Get the hell otta here rich boy!! Go listen to the Backstreet Boys er somethin'. You will most likely never become a juggalo you mainstream gooch! F.T.F.O.!!!
At least you tried..

Almost.. but keep tryin'.

DowN wIT dA KloWn tiLL YoU dEAd iN Da GRoUnd!

Are You a TRUE Juggalo
Your Result: Almost.. but keep tryin'.

You just need to learn more.. Youre a fan, but not quite yet a Juggalo. Keep trying and one day you might understand the Dark Canival and get to enjoy Faygo like a Juggalo does.

using all of what i've learned from this thread, mine was:

Your Result: At least you tried..

Nope. Quit the mainstream. Stop being a pooch and don't be afraid of clowns. You need to have a few Faygos, get some CDs, and learn the Dark Carnival. But until then.. F.T.F.O.!!!

Are You a TRUE Juggalo
Your Result: Almost.. but keep tryin'.

You just need to learn more.. Youre a fan, but not quite yet a Juggalo. Keep trying and one day you might understand the Dark Canival and get to enjoy Faygo like a Juggalo does.

Fuck, you mean I've been enjoying Faygo incorrectly all these years? God damn it.

http://irate24.bigcartel.com/product/juggaholocaust-2k7
http://cache1.bigcartel.com/product_images/37837/300.jpg

???

wtf is http://www.tadinky.com/juggaholocaust/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69Fmt9R3tNU

Yeah, I got the same one as Matt.

it must have already been done, but I'm thinking a "juggalo profile pic generator" for FB/myspace would do quite well. Upload a pic of yourself and have juggalo face paint automatically applied. Someone get on that please.

i guess noone did it?

http://i32.tinypic.com/2ps3zub.jpghttp://i27.tinypic.com/2cpomet.gif

ok primos pix as promised w/accompanying gchat and unrelated utube - field trip i dont think lived up to lol expectations

http://i29.tinypic.com/2k3afm.jpg

http://i27.tinypic.com/sdn4h4.jpg

http://i26.tinypic.com/23h0uvk.jpg

http://i25.tinypic.com/9fuw6c.jpg

9:11 PM Gabe: that was suck
faygo is gross
me: lol
9:13 PM Gabe: it is gross. it gave me headache and stained my vans
he gave me it for free
"its on me bro"
9:14 PM he was rough around the edges
I will write something up.
me: mad clown loove
Gabe: so much
he said " all those other motherfuckers.. we are the original down with clown spot... you see in there any brittany spears bullshit?"
9:15 PM me: so much hate 4 juffalos
Gabe: omg whats a juffalo ?
so much to learn
I feel so bad for them
9:16 PM me: juggalo + fake
Gabe: he was just hard working class filthy dood.
9:17 PM no time for photo under a car. he said to me "see this pic.. (I will send you pic) what other motherfuckers would feed this many motherfucking juggalos for like.. shit..for the fuck of it"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18ck8CBze28

that display of merch is so telling. just a haphazard ugly mess.

So what the hell does BLAZE YA DEAD HOMIE mean?

The exclamation "blaze", followed by a declarative statement about you being dead?

Someone named Blaze, who happens to be ya dead homie?

A command, to perform the verb "blaze" upon your dead homie?

This has been fucking with my head like the many possible meanings of Ween's "Poop Ship Destroyer".

I'm pretty sure it means "HELLO, I AM BLAZE, YOUR DEAD HOMIE", although for a while I thought it meant "I AM BLAZIN' YOU. NOW YOU ARE DEAD, HOMIE".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX3Ep6GGno4

Blaze Ya Dead Homie is supposed to be a reincarnated dead rapper from the 80s

^not kidding

"fuck you fatty footoo pootoo... i'm a frog... i'm a frog... faygofaygofaygofaygofaygo"?

PRIMOS FUCKS WITH TIRES SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO

Dan do you have any ICP shirts or is it just john?

pretty depressing to me that scarface is playing this thing.

pretty sure I don't have an ICP shirt; if I do, it's the Riddle Box cover and it's hidden in our basement

pretty depressing to me that scarface is playing this thing.

That was the part that depressed me ... although I learned that Bushwick Bill performed at a previous one, and while maybe that's more appropriate, it's even sadder somehow.

also, ice cube
also, bone thugs & harmony
also, coolio
also, vanilla ice

How depressing that a bunch of people are playing a show in front of a large group of ppl predisposed to buy anything their heroes tell them to buy; what a disaster for them.

Ice-T played last year