Noel Gallagher Has Quit Oasis

Best way to get interest in a band is to reform innit?

Which faded rock guitarist could replace him in Oasis?

which one is noel again?

Seriously, sometimes it like i don't even exist.

(xpost) The one that's a twunt oh wait...

I mean the reason we have old threads is so that we can revivie them when the news is really isn't important enough to warrant another thread. Like there aren't enough Oasis threads.

Ned you revived the same time as I started this. The other oasis thread wasnt on this page.

Noel Gallagher has announced he is quitting rock band Oasis because he can no longer work with his brother Liam.

Noel, the founding member of the band, made the statement on the band's website. He said a series of rows with his brother led to the decision.

The guitarist said: "It's with some sadness and great relief to tell you that I quit Oasis tonight.

"People will write and say what they like, but I simply could not go on working with Liam a day longer."

"Apologies to all the people who bought tickets for the shows in Paris, Konstanz and Milan," he added.

Earlier it was announced the band had cancelled their second gig in the space of a week because of "an altercation within the band".

They had been expected to play the Rock en Seine festival in Paris, but fans at the concert were told by the support band that Oasis would not be performing.

Many of the crowd thought it was a joke - until screens at either side of the stage showed the message "as a result of an altercation within the band, the Oasis gig has been cancelled".

wait I thought Liam was the founding member and Noel had joined later

me too

Jol in

Ned you revived the same time as I started this. The other oasis thread wasnt on this page.

Well, just hang on there...

It's all over.

― Ned Trifle II, Friday, 28 August 2009 22:16

Best way to get interest in a band is to reform innit?

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 28 August 2009 22:17

It's not like I actually care or anything, just saying, why not do a search instead of starting another bleedin' Oasis thread, it's not like they need the attention.

Ahh, ignore me, and I'm tired and pissy from insomnia.

I prefer his voice, so I welcome his possible solo career.

This will last as long as a Brett Favre retirement!

It's time to resurrect the old tradition of gentlemen settling their scores in a duel to the death. If we could be sure either brother could count 10 paces, it would be fun to watch them duel.

which one is noel again?

― tylerw, Friday, 28 August 2009 23:20 (26 minutes ago) Bookmark

http://www.northeastrhinosmcc.co.uk/Members/parker%20thunderbirds.bmp

He's the one who's left the band at least five times before.

except Noel's eyebrow is bushier.

Reporting this is like reporting that it's cloudy today, partly sunny tomorrow.

That's a real shame, they had the potential to be the next Status Quo.

If Oasis were smart they wouldn't do anything until the 1990s or Britpop revival is in full swing, then they should call up Bob Geldof's office, say they want to reunite at the next foreign aid concert and then the brothers would write together again, compose some cocaine-fueled ballad about Africa's plight (a sure Christmas #1 in 2015), and tour Europe and America extensively. There, there's the blueprint for the comeback.

They should call Graham Coxon.

they still sell out stadiums so im sure 1 failed solo album later Oasis will reform and do big business. They usually take 3 years between albums so it will be business as usual.
Will Oasis keep going with another guitarist or session guy? Gem Archer might just write all the songs with Liam. Andy Bell might even get a song or two. Oh Andy Bell could take over on guitar and just get a session bassist.

Freebase have a couple expendable bassists. Maybe Andy Rourke could get in on some action.

Is there a pro-Oasis ILM faction, out of interest?

I mean apart from Gier.

Ned

This reminds of the time when Liam *quit* the band for a time in the 90s, during their Morning Glory heyday, & he sat & sneered in the balcony as the rest of the band performed for MTV Unplugged. Every once and a while they'd pan over to him, hunched over w/ shades on & looking sullen as hell.

I will still rep for Definitely Maybe

and back then they were great live

Youtube or it didn't happen, Pillbox.

NME RIP

xpost

from wiki:

After a record breaking two night stand at Knebworth, tension mounted between the Gallaghers when Liam backed out on Oasis' MTV Unplugged set minutes before it was due to start. Noel was forced to fill in at the last minute. Liam claimed to have been struck down with a "sore throat" and that he doesn't like performing acoustically, though Noel claims he was hung-over.[8] Noel was further angered when Liam proceeded to heckle him from the balcony while the band performed. Four days later, Noel was again forced to fill in for Liam on the first gig of their American tour when Gallagher refused to travel to America with the rest of the band, claiming he needed time to buy a house. He was back on stage with Oasis for their next show three days later, but tension between Noel and the rest of Oasis mounted and on 11 September Noel left the tour, causing several media outlets to question the future of the band.

I had some of the deets mixed up a bit, but yeah, looking back on this doesn't do a lot to lend credence to the "Noel has quit the band for good" line of thinking. The whole performance is on YT, piece by piece. I glanced at a couple clips to see if I could find a Liam shot, but to no avail. There definitely there, tho, if you're willing to sift through the clips.

This reminds of the time when Liam *quit* the band for a time in the 90s, during their Morning Glory heyday, & he sat & sneered in the balcony as the rest of the band performed for MTV Unplugged. Every once and a while they'd pan over to him, hunched over w/ shades on & looking sullen as hell.

didn't they just say he'd lost his voice?

Yeah, I just posted some rock-solid wiki-facts to clarify my initial post & then admitted to not having a 100% clear recollection of the circumstances - all of that in the post right above yours.

OK, fine. Oasis are history then, but Noel Gallagher will probably make better records on his own. And more musically varied. Should have gotten rid of that gorilla long ago.

i say bring on a Noel solo record.

Yeah we could have a thread about it. And a poll. And a thread about the poll. And then we could poll the thread about the poll.

YO DAWG WE HEARD YOU LIKE POLLS SO WE PUT A POLL IN YOUR POLL

Wd like to hear Gangsta Andy Bell's opinion on the matter before polling these options tho.

"Yeah we could have a thread about it. And a poll. And a thread about the poll. And then we could poll the thread about the poll."

― tbh sheets (Noodle Vague)

And then we can tweet about it.

Sometimes I forget ILM is UK-based. Then I see people giving a fuck about Oasis and I remember.

ha

Look around the room, guys. This is where you were when you found out Oasis was splitting up.

bring in mark gardener obv

'leave them all behind' is the best oasis song

need sleep

Their best guitarist, Andy Bell, was playing bass, epitomizing the band's backwards ideology.

bring on the Ride reunion!

Three words: BRING BACK BONEHEAD

Anyway, I wonder if Noel is thinking that he can fall back on that Inspiral Carpets roadie gig?

"Liam and I shant work together again."

What was R Liam and R Noel's fight about this time, btw?

I just remembered an Evening Session Oasis docu where Noel was rambling and happened to mention his audition with Inspiral Carpets: "it were the same night as Lockerbie actually"; and then it cut to the newsflash of the disaster like the two events were connected in any way whatsoever

Ironically, that's a bit like Jay-Z's "I dropped the same day as the towers" remark.

Interview with McGee :

ZANI – Do you feel it was like a JFK moment when the news had been announced?

Alan McGee – Of course, we wouldn’t be doing an interview at 00.30 if I didn’t. It’s huge, like Michael Jackson dying. But I am glad I am doing this interview with ZANI.

Jaysus, did this interviewer's wife recently miscarry or something?

ZANI – Thank you. Do you feel they were your baby because you nurtured them?

Alan McGee – You know I am not nostalgic, but their body of work is so good.

ZANI – Do you feel like you have lost a son?

Alan McGee – I am sad of course, but I am very understanding of it, because changes happen whether it is jobs or relationships, things happen. Things are that meant to come to an end, do.

Good riddance to that noise. One of the worst, most tedious, most musically reactionary bands that ever came out of the UK. I wish they'd never even started up in the 1st place.

I hope all trace of this band are wiped from history, amen.

You guys don't realise, this is the worse thing happening since Hiroshima, sez McGee.

Liam's taking it bad...

City are back, Shay Given biblical...1:54 PM Aug 27th from Tweetie

Good riddance to that noise. One of the worst, most tedious, most musically reactionary bands that ever came out of the UK. I wish they'd never even started up in the 1st place.

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Having recently read Luke Haines' autobiography, I had a sudden memory flash of the early 90s, and the sense of excitement and possibility that momentarily flashed through the UK music scene in the early 90s - and Oasis were the musical 300 lb gorilla that came in the room and flattened the breath out of the whole thing.

I really wish the UK could rewind to an alternate universe where Oasis were as much of a footnote as Shed Seven.

Luke Haines, by appearing on the Select cover for "britpop", is as responsible for Oasis as anyone else.

OH THANK GOD.

I doubt they're gone for good but with any luck we're free for a few years from the sort of horror you get when Oasis play a major festival.

Sometimes I forget ILM is UK-based. Then I see people giving a fuck about Oasis and I remember.

― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Saturday, August 29, 2009 4:13 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah, some pretty soul-searching posts on this thread.

Oh sweet Jesus, that Alan McGee quote, it's an unjust world where Tony Wilson's dead and Alan McGee still walks around above ground. Not that Tony ever said things that were totally batshit or release crap tunes, but come on, Oasis except for Definitely Maybe were a blight on pop that ruined British indie for several decades. I can't say the same thing for Northside.

PS, I really don't want McGee to die, just shutting up will do.

the sense of excitement and possibility that momentarily flashed through the UK music scene in the early 90s

I genuinely don't know what you're referring to, unless you're going back a couple more years to St Etienne, Screamadelica and all that, when rock was mostly kept out of indie. Certainly anything good the Auteurs might've been associated with - I'm talking Suede and the reinvented Blur basically - was already fairly retro and didn't need much to tip it over into pastiche. That it was Oasis that did it is only down to the chance that they were they biggest, which was their right because for an album-and-a-half they had the best tunes. They must've done, because you just don't get that impact without having something amazing, but to be honest I haven't listened to them at all for close on fifteen years now.

I don't know why I'm defending them, I hate them too - above all for the sheer paucity and cowardice of their choices. Union jack guitars, brown rolls royces, everything amped up to 11 when it didn't deserve to be. That when they had a whole world to pick an idol from they chose Paul Weller (not just Weller either, but Weller at the most boring point of his career). Pointless meaningless references in every song, then when the song somehow worked despite it all, give it to Noel to sing. The Be Here Now cover. They'd earned the right to do anything, and then everything they did was crap.

I was going to say that the never-ending (until now) chain of disappointments was weird, but in fact it wasn't, because there was always something about them that didn't have a clue. I remembering thinking that as early as Shaker Maker - I'd heard a lot of them straight away, knew they were good, and couldn't understand why they were so proud of such a dud. I guess you could even go right back to the lyrics of Supersonic if you like. I think the early momentum took them a bit further than that, though - they earned the right to let us down, and they deserve credit for that.

Certainly anything good the Auteurs might've been associated with - I'm talking Suede and the reinvented Blur basically - was already fairly retro and didn't need much to tip it over into pastiche.

Yeah, I was going to say -- terrible counterexample there. (Then again Luke Haines has never been a favorite under any guise.)

Never got the Haines love. He was as guilty of being retro as any of them. And he never made an album as good as Definitely Maybe. Really wish they had split up after Loch Lomond/Knebworth.

(because everything after has been horrible)

Not everything - the thing about Oasis that weirds me out the most is 'The Importance of Being Idle'. How they came up with that in the middle of such turgid fare I do not know.

I wasn't talking about Haines (though I might understand why you might think that since it was his book that brought this on) but the vision of proto-Britpop as he described before Blur and Oasis got hold of it. (and I say that as a Blur fan)

Never listened to the Auteurs much so never cared about Haines either way, but the state of UK indie he described (and I remember) was far more interesting than it evolved into.

Christ, that means that the woeful, dreary, forlorn, lacklustre, robotic, apathetic, dirgey, funereal, phoned-in performance that I saw at last weekend's V Festival was the Last Ever Oasis Show. What a dismal way to go.

I know that they wouldn't have existed, wouldn't have got as popular as they did, if they hadn't embodied *something* within British culture that needed a voice - my problem is, why did that something have to be so thick, so lumbering, so brutish - oh, and not to mention, so overwhelmingly white and so retrogressively overwhelmingly male?

And no, even though it is coming from me, I don't think this is an inherently classist observation. Because many of the same bands that came from that particular Northern, working class culture managed to escape the cliches that Oasis served only to retrench. I mean, as much as we've talked about the Stone Roses recently - I know a lot of people who come to the Roses after the fact dislike them because they're so associated with that whole scene. There are many things you can accuse the Stone Roses of being - pretentious, overblown - but there was something just so much more light and quick and *clever* about them. If I were a young, Northern working class man, I would feel *insulted* by the way that Oasis represented me, rather than celebrated. But I recognise I cannot judge, as I will never be any of those things.

Maybe I'm living in a fantasy land of might-have-beens, but the landscape of British pop as hinted at by St. Etienne, Stereolab, the KLF, even bloody Screamadelica - as retro as they were, it still somehow hinted at a kind of futurism in their musical fusion. That's a musical landscape I would have felt comfortable in a way that the post-Oasis landscape seemed like a massive step backwards.

I mean apart from Gier.

I am not pro-Oasis anymore. I am pro-Noel. Oasis are hopefully history, otherwise I will probably never buy their albums again. Noel Gallagher IS Oasis.

Nice post*. I liked the 1991 landscape too, but nothing in it was ever going to be massive - although some of it did make it eventually as part of Oasis' whole thing (literally so in Andy Bell's case). Their pre-Oasis attempts at hugeness generally turned out embarrassing - Manics working with Kylie, Give Up But Don't Give Up, I've never really cared for the St Etienne stuff that people hold up as perfect pop.

I think I get your point, though - Oasis' effect on other bands was not positive. I think the Manics came out of the era rather well, but Suede, The Verve and so on did not. Even Shed Seven started out as a Smiths-influenced thing.

*not you, Geir

Got to love Have Your Say:

The sound of NuLabour's Britpop revolution, crass music, foul mouthed and meaningless. Very much like the party, they were made for each other.

Mark, Romford

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Noel Gallagher has said intolerable "violent and verbal intimidation" and a "lack of support" from management and bandmates forced him to quit Oasis.

In a statement, on his blog at Oasisinet.com, he said: "The details are not important and of too great a number to list."

The guitarist said: "I feel you have the right to know that the level of verbal and violent intimidation towards me, my family, friends and comrades has become intolerable.

"And the lack of support and understanding from my management and bandmates has left me with no other option than to get me cape and seek pastures new."

He went on to say the rock group's success had been a "dream come true", adding: "I take with me glorious memories."

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46289000/jpg/_46289811_000121680-1.jpg

The group's spokeswoman said Liam and the other remaining band members would consider whether to carry on without Noel, the chief songwriter and lead guitarist.

She said: "I expect in the next couple of days a decision will be made as to how to continue or if they continue."

Alan McGee, who discovered Oasis and signed the band to his Creation Records label, said Noel's departure was "a sad day for music".

The rift was "more serious than anything that's ever happened" between the brothers, he said.

"It's obviously the worst fall-out that they've ever had, and they've had some pretty bad ones," he told BBC News.

"But they love each other - they'll come back together," he predicted.

"I think you'll have a reunion tour in about five years time. They love each other. When people love each other, they'll always make peace."

Mr McGee compared Noel's songwriting to that of Neil Young, Bob Dylan and John Lennon, describing him as "as good as the people that he admires".

this thread being wedged under a discussion of GENESIS LIVE makes any kind of ilm quality control consensus difficult to take seriously. they're obviously horrible now and their influence has been pretty detrimental. but the first record and the bunch of extras that went with that period are unfuckwithable. no-one's listening to them because the amount of time hasn't elapsed between being able to separate brown sugar from whatever shit the stones are doing now, but the raw material was good.

but then who cares about the guy leaving the mutilated remnants of the early nineties thing.

Mr McGee compared Noel's songwriting to that of Neil Young, Bob Dylan and John Lennon, describing him as "as good as the people that he admires".

What a ridiculous statement. I mean, a whole bunch of the guy's stuff was basically just lifts off of other ppls tunes IIRC?

He rarely lifted much of other people's tunes (other than the b-side "Step Out", which was a bit too much of a lift from "Uptight") and "Whatever" (alias "How Sweet To Be An Idiot". What he has done often is to lift other people's arrangements but, say, the piano intro to "Imagine" has never been part of the actual melody.

still think he nicked the 'Wonderwall' guitar from 'Bonnie & Clyde' via 'Renegade Soundwave' (wouldn't blame him for this itself tho)

"Cigarettes & Alcohol" = T Rex' "Get It On"?

Half The World Away = "This Guys's In Love With You"

All Around The World = Piggy In The Middle by The Rutles.

Again, those were only about arrangement and not about melody. Nicking the arrangement isn't a ripoff in the same way that nicking the melody is.

Oasis was still a band until just now?

Egad.

She's Electric = No Compute by Funkadelic

What he has done often is to lift other people's arrangements but, say, the piano intro to "Imagine" has never been part of the actual melody.

Maybe not in the legal sense, but huge hunks of "Don't Look Back in Anger" (for example) transcend Beatles homage and approach parody. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but still.

(Fine song, though)

Nicking the arrangement isn't a ripoff in the same way that nicking the melody is.

― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 30 August 2009 21:00 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

True.

My take? (Like youse care...)

Noel carries on making more 'experimental' music a-la that last 12" remix, on his own "Sour Mash" inprint, to general interest and specific "it's just a rehash/ripoff of ....."

Liam continues with Oasis, with a new guitarist from the banks of musos that quit britpop bands when Oasis got big. Ends up making surprisingly good records. Under his own steam.

(Of course, he might even ring up Bonehead! As far as I know, they never had a bust up...)

Doesn't McGee look like Nosferatu with ginger hair?

[/insert own vampirism joke here]

Rumors that Kaiser Chiefs have gone the same way !

Kaiser Chiefs have gone the same way
to shit following their first album?

weren't they always shit?

I will still rep for Definitely Maybe

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 29 August 2009 01:05 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

oh wait you mean Kaiser Chiefs :)

http://www.maximumlies.co.uk/cutenews/data/upimages/basil_brush.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnyMxcTk_UA

Liam continues with Oasis, with a new guitarist from the banks of musos that quit britpop bands when Oasis got big. Ends up making surprisingly good records. Under his own steam.

If he recruits Steve Cradock, then I'll still be paying attention. Maybe he could teach the rest a thing or two about production and arranging too ;)

I guess Andres Segovia's probably unlikely.

i've long been bored of oasis but this is a fascinating article about a side of noel gallagher i didnt know: http://thequietus.com/articles/02621-oasis-split-what-next-for-noel-gallager

the cartouche thing was a shock!

Really interesting Quietus piece. When I interviewed Noel last year, in one breath he said that a working-class rock band's job was to celebrate girls, money and good times and sneer at politics and pretension, and in the other he said he loved hip hop in the NWA/Public Enemy era but went off it when (as he perceived it) it became all about celebrating girls, money and good times. He didn't see the contradiction at all.

Oh dear lord, I was just posting that Oasis breaking up might make it safe to go to an Amourphous Androgynous happening... however, I fear it might be quite the reverse. It does kind of put my finger on exactly what has been bothering me about AA, though - there's just something about them that strikes me as kind of the electronic dance music equivalent of Kula Shaker.

Terrific article. I've always begrudgingly liked Noel for his wit and how willing he is to burst a bubble, but I have few hopes that he's going to pull out something extraordinary and unexpected - there's nothing in his recorded output to indicate that he can. Lionising Cast and all them, he didn't have to do that if he was really after more ambitious things.

that the woeful, dreary, forlorn, lacklustre, robotic, apathetic, dirgey, funereal, phoned-in performance

This pretty much nails all three Oasis gigs I've seen.

I saw them 3 times back in the mid 90s and they were terrific. Especially Irvine Beach.

I saw them once. Liam stormed off in a huff midway through the opener. He returned at the end of the song and said something utterly unintelligible into the mic (except that it ended "know wharra mean?"). Everyone cheered, the place was all goodwill. It turned out he'd been saying he had a bad throat, was leaving the venue and never returned. Noel had to take over vocals for the rest of the gig. They did a 'sorry' show a few months later but I didn't go.

I only ever saw them in half-empty halls. St Andrews Hall in Detroit round about Definetly Maybe then a couple of times in Vancouver when their popularity was totally on the wane and they had a shitty local rep for storming off-stage at an earlier show. Combined with their usual schtick of ignoring the audience an offering nothing whatsoever in terms of visual appeal or engagement and you've got a recipe for a dreadful live experience, which it was.

i was going to see them at an australian festival just after definitely maybe came out, then they pulled out citing illness then proceeded to play bunch of shows in the uk instead. Then i was going to see them at a big arena show circa morning glory but that was cancelled after the noel-walks-out-post-vmas debacle. fast forward to the early 2000s and i was stuck in a crowd at another festival while they played. all i remember is a bunch of dads in front of me losing their shit and being all like "this is real rock n roll maaaaannnn" and trying to get some of the joint i was smoking, which i gave them because they promised to go away if i did. it was terrible. I listened to some oasis for the first time in ages yesterday and the only songs i found at all interesting were noel's ones. its a shame he didn't walk out a decade ago and start doing something solo.

When I interviewed Noel last year, in one breath he said that a working-class rock band's job was to celebrate girls, money and good times and sneer at politics and pretension, and in the other he said he loved hip hop in the NWA/Public Enemy era but went off it when (as he perceived it) it became all about celebrating girls, money and good times. He didn't see the contradiction at all.

Well, in a way, nor do I..

You were there, you know how he meant it, but if you read into it that he was getting bored himself with celebrating "girls, money and good times and sneer at politics", then it makes sense, along with what's happened since.

Unfortunately, he didn't seem bored in the least - he was very proud of that attitude and genuinely dismissive of bands who attempted to do something more than that, either artistically or politically. The problem is that it's a dead-end attitude which produced a fantastically hard-nosed debut but left him nowhere to grow as a songwriter. It seems to me that the only reason he's left the band is because of Liam, not because he harbours any bold ambitions to do something different. It would be nice to be proved wrong.

He'll do some rubbish Fireman type thing

Maybe he'll join Modest Mouse.

Sitar and 1968-vintage psychedelic effects will feature prominently.

Well, the one thing he envied Blur for was that they were allowed to do 'left-field' stuff, whereas when he tried it on "Shoulders", he was criticised for it in general (but praised for "bushes" and "Go let it out")...

As said above, Liam wouldn't have tried the 'remix' route, so who knows.

no other option than to get me cape

did he really say this???

I remember a Noel quote from circa 97 when he said that Oasis had 'won' the Britpop battle because Blur had retreated into 'weird art'.

That would have been around the time Blur released the avant garde arty farty Song 2.

Or perhaps Noel is just a lame Mr Rent-a-Quote who changes his position on musical issues whenever he feels like it?

I think you may be onto something.

That Quietus link story was no shock to me, I have to say.

More to the point, it's that old "wisdom to accept the things I cannot change" etcet.

Oasis is "This", and will not differ from it.

"Falling Down" is a decent single to finish on. The source track, the remix by Liams broinlaw naturally, the Androgetc version as a signpost to the future, and the Sardy/Twiggy one as the mil(e)stone as to what's been left behind.

Or something.

I'm just nitpicking here for no good reason, but:

It’s 1992, down a Manchester city centre back-street called Little Peter Street. You are leaving The Boardwalk, a combined rehearsal room and gig venue, where local bands play to small crowds alongside better known alternative acts from further afield – Sonic Youth, Husker Du and the like

Probably meant Sugar, but you know.

Can we put the idea to bed that a well-known record company owner discovered them, once and for all?

How sad that you impugn Dick Green that way.

hitler reacts : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6IyGAvbOs4&eurl

"have you tried Kasabian?"...

I only ever saw them in half-empty halls. St Andrews Hall in Detroit round about Definetly Maybe then a couple of times in Vancouver when their popularity was totally on the wane and they had a shitty local rep for storming off-stage at an earlier show. Combined with their usual schtick of ignoring the audience an offering nothing whatsoever in terms of visual appeal or engagement and you've got a recipe for a dreadful live experience, which it was.

― everything, Monday, August 31, 2009 4:04 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

If you are talking about the St. Andrews show in Sept/Oct 1994, I was also there. I thought it was a brilliant show. They had not had any US airplay yet & had everything to lose, so there was no room for "sore throats" or whatever. They simply walked on stage, rocked the fuck out of every song they had written up to that point (+ IATW) & walked off. I went to see them about six months later, after they'd had a hit or two, in Grand Rapids & teh bros were total bitches: Liam walked off after the first song or so b/c someone in the crowd threw a bottle (not at Liam even, just onto the stage) & Noel, obviously sulky & bitter the whole time, half-assed his way through all the vox. Terrible. Pretty much ruined the band for me, tbh.

Yeah that was the show. I should probably lighten up about Oasis and Noel a bit. They so quickly moved from being fun and promising to disappointing then rapidly became pretty vile. It's been so easy to dislike them for so long but they probably deserve some slack. They have a bunch of good songs and could rock live if they wanted to. I do remember being a little bit underwhelmed by the show but that was likely informed by the over-the-top hype from the UK press at the time. The later shows were pretty appalling though. I stand by that.

They could be so variable, not surprising when their audiences could be so "WAHAYY WE'RE WATCHING OASIS WHOO!!!" blinded...

I put in for tickets for that BBC "orchestra" gig, but on seeing how awful Liam sounded, I
1) was glad I didn't get them
2) forever prepared to forgive Liam's every "laryngitis" cancellation, for if his voice is even slightly poorly, he sounds godawful.

I did see them at Wembley, the gig that became the "Familiar" album, pretty good.

Last time, they were helping Weller and Ashcroft at the Royal Albert Hall. Liam doesn't usually do those pallypally gigs, but he came on and did "Songbird" with Weller and Noel, and all was happy.

Apparently, Noel is "very close" to signing with Parlophone records.

and apparently will keep the name 'Oasis'

sorry, I mean, Liam

Noel's going to keep Liam's name?

That's sibling rivalry for you!

He is the Nephilim.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rxSKmMLn2Zw/SmTjepWO25I/AAAAAAAAALM/6JIepo3Ja88/s320/kane&abel.jpg

The new band = Oasis + keyboard/bass player - Noel. Plus he's probably going to keep the name "Oasis". So, Oasis didn't split up after all.

more like New Oasis = Old Oasis + keyboard/bass player - Noel - songwriting ability - tiny amount of humility

In other words, Liam will have to ask his brother to join the band and sort them out a second time.

New solo demo 'Corridors Of Gin' has leaked:
http://www.mediafire.com/?jmznmlmyzzn

Oh good.

Maybe Liam can write something interesting.