Best Dutch Album Ever!

Palomine! okay, maybe not, but it sure does sound awesome right about now in the store. finally found a copy at the thrift store. for years i would say to myself, i wish i could find a cheap copy of palomine. I like that record. great record to play drunk by yourself. it will simultaneously make you happy AND sad.

so, what's the best netherlands release then?

could be this:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LzOdhh8wa04/SZ_x5wars9I/AAAAAAAAAWw/obhGOQyNjFE/s400/outsiders_cq_1968_WALLY_TAX_RONNIE_SPLINTER_BUZZ_MISFIT_AMSTERDAM_NEDERBEAT_PSYCHEDELIC_ROCKNROLL_POLYDOR_TAX_FREE.jpg

or who knows, maybe it's this:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61DRh3e0BzL._SS500_.jpg

and, to be honest, my fave might actually be this:

http://www.cmdistro.com/images/xlarge/2409.jpg

After some googling, surprised to find that I haven't really heard a whole lot of Dutch bands beyond some of the symphonic metal bands. I guess I'd have to say maybe something by The Ex?

you'll have to be a little more specific.

De Subjectivisten to thread!

Are we allowed duos with one Dutch member? If so I go for

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000BBOFEU.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V1138741234_.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dutch_musicians

awwww, arling & cameron, whatever happened to them? i liked those guys.

wait, boney m are considered Dutch????

I've only ever heard The Ex comps made by friends! I wouldn't know which full album was the best.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4YTVtMhY-n0/SIxhcxKHGnI/AAAAAAAAB7M/OWj8_VLQDdc/s400/group+1850.jpg
This record is cool! I like CQ better, though. Q65 are no slouches, either.

maybe not too representative but this album with Tom Cora on cello is terrific:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_KGxvTSnp3Dw/SO591tEf96I/AAAAAAAAAXs/UK7BHciRqoc/s320/scrabblingatthelock.jpg

great album, by the way:

http://cfs10.tistory.com/image/2/tistory/2008/10/12/15/01/48f192a3d7733

another good one:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kMkWq1e4b7s/SYXXE-H0cyI/AAAAAAAABDM/4Hgt3v-y-7U/s400/front_cover_small.jpg

and, obviously:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wMsMr-xtw6o/SmhhB91aprI/AAAAAAAAAfs/wt0v-E8h2IY/s400/shocking_blue_-_1969_-_at_home_-_front.jpg

or maybe not obviously, i dunno. if all people know is venus they might be surprised by how cool all the other shocking blue stuff is.

http://www.fatalflowers.nl/discografie/CD_Cover_YoungerDays_232.jpg

http://www.8weekly.nl/images/art/6537-h.gif

http://img.amazon.ca/images/I/61uKNlCKfXL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

YIKES! how could i forget my ACTUAL favorite dutch album. or maybe its a tie with the gathering. plus, i have the american copy and the dutch copy and each has different songs on it. so i actually love some weird hybrid of this album:

http://991.com/newGallery/Gruppo-Sportivo-10-Mistakes-357293.jpg

gotta give a shout-out to this. never knew where they were from, but i love this single:

http://www.webdjsitalodisco.ch/Vinilcovers/Laserdance-Humanoid_Invasion.jpg

^Yeah, I love them^ (re Gruppo Sportivo xpost)
I should bring my American copy to the radio show tonight.

What is the yellow/grey/black geometric one in the thread header?

The Outsiders CQ
Total classic!

it's all in the filename, but you have to know what's what :-)

The Outsiders - CQ (1968) (vocals: Wally Tax, guitar: Ronnie Splinter)

duh xpost

Oh come on, this is a no-brainer.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0NjEhF7mpS4/SX-KKnza3CI/AAAAAAAAAio/ukjhknMOidM/s320/Van+Halen.jpg

no, i think you mean this one:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41tI8YTY8vL._SS500_.jpg

Gore! Eton Crop! Buy Off The Bar!

Any Dutch speaking albums allowed? (Spinvis, Osdorp Posse, Drs. P)

i like eton crop.

http://www.amiright.com/album-covers/images/album_The-Nightblooms-24-Days-At-Catastrofe-Cafe.jpg

YIKES! how could i forget my ACTUAL favorite dutch album. or maybe its a tie with the gathering. plus, i have the american copy and the dutch copy and each has different songs on it. so i actually love some weird hybrid of this album:

But weren't the tracks that were left off the actual American album included on the 7-inch 6-song More Mistakes EP that Grupo Sportivo included inside the US Mistakes? (My EP has "Bernadette," "Disco Really Made It," "Are You Ready?," "Girls Never Know," "Tokyo," and "Rubber Gun," if that's any help.)

Also, has nobody mentioned Golden Earring yet? Or Focus? (It's hard to search, with all the image links.) If it's not cheating, I think I might take The Continuing Story Of Radar Love over either the Gathering or Grupo Sportivo albums that Scott named (both of which are great.) (How come all the best Dutch bands start with "G"?? Weird!)

Herman Brood wise, I haven't heard Cha Cha in eons, but Herman Brood & His Wild Romance (with his awesome American hit "Saturday Night," probably my favorite Dutch SONG of all time) might actually give even Golden Earring a run for their money, come to think of it.

Also, what about Shocking Blue??? (Unless somebody already said them.)

i was actually just waiting for you to mention Focus and Golden Earring.

i don't have that EP with my copy of Mistakes! man, now i need it bad. the american version included songs - great songs - from their first album as well as Ten Mistakes.

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dri300/i350/i35057m6var.jpg

i was looking for that before scott said it btw

I have a couple of Focus lps btw.

theres a shop in glasgow that i got loads of prog lps cheap in the 90s and my mate bought a load of 70s heavy rock stuff. Its still there, you would love it Scott.

lotsa old punk stuff too

american version (just called Mistakes and without the racey cover):

Mission A Paris 4:17
Dreamin' 4:17
Henri 4:21
Hey Girl 2:25
I Said No 4:14
I Shot My Manager 2:50 /
Blah Blah Magazines 2:01
Beep Beep Love 2:54
P.S. 78 3:00
Superman 6:22
One Way Love (From Me To You) 3:07
Bottom Of The Class 2:04
The Single 1:13

Ten Mistakes (Dutch album):

1 Beep Beep Love
2 Superman
3 Lasting Forever
4 Girls Never Know
5 I Shot My Manager!
6 Mission a Paris
7 Rock & Roll
8 Henri
9 Armee Monika
10 Rubber Gun

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drl300/l364/l36466rrhi2.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/2ngu2qq.jpg

This is the all-time best Dutch albums list of Holland's premier music mag OOR from last year:

1 Urban Dance Squad – Mental Floss For The Globe (1989)
2 Herman Brood & His Wild Romance – Shpritsz (1978)
3 Spinvis – Spinvis (2002)
4 Johan – Pergola (2001)
5 Opgezwolle – Eigen Wereld (2006)
6 Bettie Serveert – Palomine (1982)
7 Boudewijn de Groot – Voor De Overlevenden (1967)
8 Daryll-Ann – Weeps (1996)
9 Golden Earring – Moontan (1973)
10 Doe Maar – Doris Day En Andere Stukken (1982)
11 Doe Maar – Skunk (1981)
12 Cuby + Blizzards – Groeten Uit Grollo (1967)
13 Ivy Green – Ivy Green (1978)
14 Nasmak – 4our Clicks (1982)
15 Extince – Binnenlandse Funk (1998)
16 Q65 – Revolution (1966)
17 Claw Boys Claw – Shocking Shades Of Claw Boys Claw (1984)
18 Speedy J – Public Energy No. 1 (1996)
19 Fatal Flowers – Younger Days (1986)
20 The Serenes – Barefoot & Pregnant (1990)
21 Cuby + Blizzards – Desolation (1966)
22 Caesar – No Rest For The Alonely (1998)
23 The Ex & Tom Cora – Scrabbling At The Lock (1991)
24 The Gathering – Mandylion (1995)
25 De Artsen – Conny Waves With A Shell (1989)
26 De Dijk – Niemand In De Stad (1989)
27 Spinvis – Dagen Van Gras, Dagen Van Stro (2005)
28 Gruppo Sportivo – 10 Mistakes (1977)
29 The Outsiders – Outsiders (1967)
30 Daryll-Ann – Happy Traum (1999)
31 Osdorp Posse – Afslag Osdorp (1995)
32 Zuco 103 – Tales Of High Fever (2002)
33 Brainbox – Brainbox (1969)
34 De Kift – Krankenhaus (1993)
35 Urban Dance Squad – Persona Non Grata (1994)
36 Voicst – 11-11 (2004)
37 Fatal Flowers – Pleasure Ground (1990)
38 De Div – Open Zee (1984)
39 zZz – Sound Of zZz (2005)
40 Minny Pops – Drastic Measures, Drastic Movement (1979)
41 Herman Brood & His Wild Romance – Street (1977)
42 Tröckener Kecks – Betaalde Liefde (1985)
43 Gruppo Sportivo – Back To 78 (1978)
44 Hallo Venray – The More I Laugh, The Hornier Due Gets! (1992)
45 Junkie XL - Saturday Teenage Kick (1997)
46 NRA – Leaded (1997)
47 Supersister – Present From Nancy (1970)
48 Bauer – On The Move (1999)
49 Johan – Johan (1996)
50 Pestilence – Testimony Of The Ancients (1991)

and, ACTUALLY, this is confusing, they had an EP called Rare Tracks that came out before Ten Mistakes. SO, the U.S. album Mistakes is actually a mishmash of Ten Mistakes and the album AFTER Ten Mistakes called Back To '78. Back To '78 has:

Girl

Bernadette

P.S. 78

Tokyo

I Said No!

Real Teeth Are Out

Are You Ready?

The Booby-Trap Boogie

Blah Blah Magazines

One Way Love (From Me To You)

I'm A Rocket

Shave

The Pogo Never Stops

Bottom Of The Class

The Single

so, really, all i need is Back To '78 and maybe that first EP. and then i would just need the american EP that came with Mistakes for that Disco song, i guess.

sadly, i could never really get into later Gruppo albums like Copy Copy and Pop! Goes The Brain. and i really really tried!

Hey--nobody's mentioned The Rondos! classic!

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9062/p1010034klein.jpg

"14 Nasmak – 4our Clicks (1982)"

i think i still have this for sale in my store. nobody wants it. it's a good record though if you are a post-punk fan. the other record i had by them is good too.

nasmak could have called their album: Oh Man WE REALLY Want To Be On Factory Records!!! (right down to the cover art/geometric cut-out cover.)

urban dance squad all the way

yeah-eah-eah-eah

You NEED the Gruppo (anti) disco song, Scott! It's one of my favorites by them: "Disco really made it! It's yucky and I hate it!" (And yeah, I agree about their later LPs. I have two around here, but they never really clicked for me, either. Not gonna get rid of them, though.)

the best thing about Pop! Goes The Brain was the pictures inside of the band dressed like various new wave genre bands. adam & the ants, etc.

http://www.poplife.info/Bilder/250937.jpg

Merry Pierce's Beach Blanket Bingo cannot remain unmentioned!

so sad that all the hepcat ilxors have forgotten about their old girlfriend solex. you could call once in a while or send a postcard!

from that list above...

34 De Kift – Krankenhaus (1993)

Mississippi Records have just reissued this fyi

I sometimes think I'm on the wrong board here. You'd have thought by now someone else would have mentioned Han Bennink and the other members (Willem Breuker, Misha Mengelberg etc) of the Instant Composers Pool/ICP Orchestra, the Dutch free jazz combo.

http://home.comcast.net/~discographer/mekons/images/joost-front.jpg

There is an image of a Bennink/Brotzmann record up there.

Holland has probably produced more outstanding musicians than albums tbh.

I keep thinking of groups I love and then realising they're Belgian, not Dutch: Arno Hintjens, dEUS, TC Matic. I really enjoy Pony Tail and Suicidal Birds and the Monroes on the Tocado label.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpzRlzNU2gM

Another vote here for 10 Mistakes

Ha! Typical of an American record co. to issue a version of it and leave out all the best tracks!

There is an image of a Bennink/Brotzmann record up there

Yeah I know, I was the one who put it there :)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_7St4jD20p0o/RcLE60ibqBI/AAAAAAAABQw/u7wFciCIc6g/s400/supersister+1.jpg

1st Shocking Blue or The Ex/Tom Cora sound good to me.

I have a couple of Focus lps btw.― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname

you aren't exactly unique that way ;)

uh, and that OOR mag list upthread?! not a single nits rekkid in the top 50? and the one supersister only in the lower forties?? gotta be fekkin kiddin'.

http://flmsdown.net/uploads/posts/2009-02/1234209344_1234111453_2unlimited_nolimit.jpg

This list needs some 13eaver, Asphyx, Gnaw Their Tongues, and Marblebog.

What's the difference between Belgium and the Netherlands anyway?

some personal favorites that haven't been mentioned yet:

west coast electro
http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/002/063/0000206329_350.jpg

melancholic drones
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-lpMaiI8d0s/STV82MoDiVI/AAAAAAAAAMI/IFRMYVhrY3A/s1600-h/machinefabriek+-+marijn+album+cover.jpg

demure & delicious
http://www.normanrecords.com/images/covers/48781.jpg

damn. second one is Machinefabriek's Marijn.

another gem (though it's definitely not rock/pop): http://bios2005.web-log.nl/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/09/17/kootenbiedraaikonten.jpg

Speedy J!
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002Z6N.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://flmsdown.net/uploads/posts/2008-10/1223471011_dj_tiesto_-_in_my_memory_dutch.jpg

Bonus points for my favourite Dutch album title by non-Dutch band: Holosud - Fijnewas Afpompen
and my favourite album by a band that may or may not count as Dutch seeing as how I can't find any lineup information online and the singer has a Northern English accent (but they're at least part-Dutch):
http://www.discogs.com/image/R-634956-1251625640.jpeg

http://home.hetnet.nl/~sixties/GRAPHICS/1969/6910250911.jpg

http://artwork.datpiff.com/mcc7fef9/Kempi_Mixtape_31-front-large.jpg

You'd have thought by now someone else would have mentioned Han Bennink and the other members (Willem Breuker, Misha Mengelberg etc) of the Instant Composers Pool/ICP Orchestra, the Dutch free jazz combo.

Hey, a fellow Dutch-jazz fan! We'd be remiss to leave out Willem Breuker Kollektief. They've got a ton of albums, but I'll nominate "Bob's Gallery" because I have that one. Also, if Michael Moore counts, I dig those Jewels & Binoculars albums, not to mention Clusone 3. And what about Jaap Blonk and Braaxtaal?

What's the difference between Belgium and the Netherlands anyway?

The Dutch are superior in everything except music and beer. Marblebog is Hungarian btw.

I'm gonna say the "Kerstmatinees" box set of Bernard Haitink conducting the Concertgebouw Orchestra in a series of christmas day Mahler concerts.

2nd place- How To Measure A Planet?

46 NRA – Leaded (1997)

I don't know this one but I have an NRA album from five or six years ago and it's pretty fine for the genre. I could vote for Das Oath if they count. I rep for Gnaw Their Tongues everywhere I go. 'Wrede' by Gore is their best imo and I dunno why it's not been reissued. Dunno about actual albums but on the right day I could probably be convinced that Clone Records is the best thing to come from Holland. That's all my thoughts on Dutch music right now I think

Since nobody else will, I'll put in two cents for Frites Modern's Veel, Vet, Goor En Duur. The Nine Circles album's pretty great, too. Quando Quango kind of counts as well: half Dutch, and formed in Rotterdam. But it's probably C.Q or an Ex LP.

one of my fave death metal albums is by Dutch band Acrostichon. they had a female lead singer who was definitely the fiercest woman death singer i've ever heard. they had one more album after this one, but i never heard it. and their singer, corinne, never played with anyone after that, i don't think. a couple of the acrostichon dudes ended up playing in Master and also started another band (outburst) that i've never heard.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zBvCpVKlQ60/SeojitTOqxI/AAAAAAAAH-g/zusmxMyl8lc/s400/Acrostichon+-+Engraved+In+Black.jpg

Showing my age:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MlftxlKDJvs/SYN_6nf-87I/AAAAAAAAAQQ/d9hbX0eZQzc/s400/Clan+Of+Xymox2.jpeg

i love medusa. such a great album. come to think of it, i first heard medusa when my brother's friend larry came back from visiting dutch relatives in holland in the 80's and he had that and some boney m albums! started my lifelong boney m love and love for that xymox album. thanks, larry!

http://www.proggnosis.com/Covers/K/K293.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/zsoh3r.jpg

Not the best, but I still love this album.

But I'm amazed they've only been mentioned in passing so far and also that they're not in that Top 50 list.

Yes, that is a strange omission, hadn't noticed that.

My personal favorites would probably be Pestilence (Consuming Impulse), The Gathering (Mandylion), Vengaboys (The Party Album), Johan (Pergola), Bettie Serveert (Palomine), Daryll-Ann (Weeps) and Brainbox (pre-Focus Akkerman band, which I imagine scott and xhuxk will probably like too, right?). Also, I hate Herman Brood and I don't think I've ever heard Moontan. I have the Gruppo Sportivo album, played it once years ago, really liked it and haven't played it since.

The Dutch are superior in everything except
music and beer.
― Thijs, Wednesday, September 30, 2009 11:43
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You guys are great at humor, I'll give you that. :-)

Did De Fabriek do any classic stuff? I keep seeing the name about, but haven't dug too deeply.

@StanM: I forgot, your women are more beautiful too! Three strikes, we're out ;) (my great grandfather is Belgian btw; probably where that sense of humor comes from).

Some of my favorites:

Pestilence - Testimony of the ancients
The Gathering - Souvernirs
Caesar - Leaving sparks (an underratied indie-album IMHO, recorded by Steve Albini)
The Spirit That Guides Us - The sand, the barrier
God Dethroned - The grand grimoire

http://www.basta.nl/images/catalogue/3091%20542.jpg

This one is great as well.

This is the all-time best Dutch albums list of Holland's premier music mag OOR from last year:

No Kayak no credibility!

What was up with UDS calling people "Ducks" all the time? Was that some kinda early 90s dutch slang that everybody used, or did they just make it up?

If this were the old ILX and I could still tweak my user name to make it thread-appropriate, I'd change "Vön" to "Van" just for this one...anyways, I'll rep for Shocking Blue At Home. (I like Scorpio's Dance a lot too.)

oh come now folks, the answer is clearly

http://www.reviewbusters.net/images/music/ayreon_01011001.jpg

Who dat?

Cue 'cheesy' joke (finally!).

Good one about the ducks categorising UDS, what was up with that?

Ayreon ( pronunciation (help·info)) is a project by Dutch composer and musician Arjen Anthony Lucassen. Ayreon's musical style derives mostly from heavy metal and progressive rock, but combines them with genres like folk, classical and electronica to form what some call a completely new style of music. The majority of Ayreon's albums are dubbed "rock operas" because the albums contain complex storylines featuring a host of characters, each represented by a unique vocalist.

*snigger*

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Is that one of his albums?

the guy from Ayreon e-mailed me to say that he thought my review in Decibel of that album was really funny and that he appreciated it. which shows that the Dutch have an EXCELLENT sense of humor.

^^^I saw that post again recently and chuckled heartily. It was one of the funniest emails I've seen reprinted, a total compliment (and complement) to the review

based on that alone I totally root for the guy and his mighty mighty sixth extinctions

Is that one of his albums?

Nahw, just i'm-gonna-use-a-phonetical-english-version-of-my-name-so-as-to-not-confuse-my-potential-international-fanbase lolz from a fellow Dutchman with an even more ridiculous name.

I mean based on 'liquid eternity', 'connect the dots', 'ride the comet', the opening track of disc 2 whose name I forget, and 'the sixth extinction' alone, it's a super li'l record

Oohh Scott where can that review plus his e-mail be read?

It's probably not the best Dutch album ever but I am quite fond of B.G.K.'s Jonestown Aloha.

Ah yes, noisy leftists, yet another Dutch delicacy:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2J4Lo9UzhFw/SL-zFCTsXdI/AAAAAAAABbY/-hHC5Llg4W0/s400/LRM.jpg

http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/les%20goupes/K/Kong/Phlegm/Phlegm.jpg

http://www.discogs.com/image/R-150-531044-1128222029.jpeg

As are the already mentioned Ex, Rondos and Gore.

http://www.kilroy-records.be/Pictures/LP-Pictures/T-Pictures/trace%20+%20trace.jpg

http://www.vintageprog.com/finch.jpg

At last! Waited so long for this thread...

Did De Fabriek do any classic stuff?

They're heading at their 30th anniversary and are awfully productive, but if a classic needs to be picked it's probably the first vinyl:

http://img28.imageshack.us/i/defabriekfrontcoverrgb.jpg

More almost forgotten gems of the (early) eighties:

Michel Banabila – Des traces retrouvés 1
Flue – Vista
Kiem – Kiem
Ton Lebbink – Luchtkastelen
Mekanik Kommando – Bay the moon
Mo – Mo
Nexda – Nexda
O.R.D.U.C. – Pink and purple
Odal – Against nature
Suspect – Above suspicion
The Tapes – Party
Tent – Uncertain and wild
The Visitor – Black and gold
The Young Lions – No news, strange rumours

... And absolute personal fave:

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2238/andredesaintobinsoundon.th.jpg

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/2655/defabriekfrontcoverrgb.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2238/andredesaintobinsoundon.jpg

retrouvées...

The best Dutch albums ever according to Dutch RYM users:
http://rateyourmusic.com/customchart?page=1&chart_type=top&type=album&year=alltime&genre_include=1&genres=&include=both&origin_countries=Netherlands&limit=country&countries=Netherlands

I don't know what to make of that list. No Ex in the top 200, though plenty of Golden Earing. And Australia's Saints make it into the top 150!