"The Best Five Album Runs BEFORE TIME BEGAN" (Jazz artist nomination thread)

a jazz version of thread would be great, but it would be great as its own thing apart from this thread, don't understand why people can't just make one and stop whining on this one.

― some dude, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 22:25 (3 days ago) Permalink

easier to whine duh

― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 22:27 (3 days ago) Permalink

just thinking about putting together a jazz version of this poll makes my head hurt -- too hard

but I hope someone does it

― Brad C., Tuesday, 29 September 2009 22:31 (3 days ago) Permalink

I hope its called "The Best Five Album Runs BEFORE TIME BEGAN"

― the taint of Macca is strong (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 22:32 (3 days ago) Permalink

jazz poll would be kind of hard ... i mean, you'd have to go w/ the big guys. Miles, Ornette, Coltrane, Rollins ... maybe Hancock. But if you started adding everybody it'd get wacky. I mean, I'll argue for Art Blakey/Jazz Messengers til the cows come home, but I have no idea what their best five album run is.

― tylerw, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 22:34 (3 days ago) Permalink

Now, if you look at the 100 top acts at Acclaimed Music, the only jazz act from the albums era that would really fit in here is Miles Davis, the five album run that ended with "Sketches Of Spain". None of the others are acclaimed enough to be in the top 100 artists there. Yes, it is a rock centric list, but then, like most every "Best albums of all time" lists that have ever been made by any (non jazz specialist) magazine in recent times.

― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 22:35 (3 days ago) Permalink

the past, who needs it

― the taint of Macca is strong (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 22:38 (3 days ago) Permalink

how can you call a thread "the best five album runs ever" then not include one of the biggest genres ever, which has plenty of 5 album runs.

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 22:40 (3 days ago) Permalink

someone who knows more about jazz than gier should do a jazz one so everyone stops bickering

― Drew Daniel, Esq. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 22:47 (3 days ago)

I'm not super expert, but I can hang with doing a nominations thread and poll. I can take up to fifty nominations but I doubt we'll get that much. Perhaps if we're under we could include alternate 5-album run suggestions.

One nomination per poster, please.

I'd have to go with:

A Monastic Trio
Huntington Ashram Monastery
Journey In Satchidananda
Ptah, The El Daoud
Universal Consciousness

John C, Pharoah, Miles, Ornette, Mingus, and Sun Ra all have obviously strong runs. Maybe Monk, R.R. Kirk also has a good run. 1973's In Concert kinda screw things up for 5 Miles albums if you ask me though.

Anyway, have at it. I'll post a poll after I think we have enough credible nominations or if we hit 50.

Oh... so mine is:

1. Alice Coltrane

Hard with the titans to figure out where you'd make the cut.

2. an early Bill Evans run: Portrait in Jazz, Explorations, Sunday at the Village Vanguard, Waltz for Debby, How My Heart Sings!

This is hard because a lot of jazz artists' discographies are all over the place, i.e. they weren't tied to one single label. Also, do live albums count in the five-album runs? I would say they do because it's in the nature of improvisation that it only exists in the moment, so a live recording is as much a part of a jazz artist's oeuvre as a studio album. With that in mind, I'm nominating:

3. Albert Ayler – Spiritual Unity, New York Eye and Ear Control, Bells, Spirits Rejoice, In Greenwich Village

By the way, you won't get anything like 50 noms for this. Maybe 20 if you're very lucky. I've only been on this board a few months and it's already pretty obvious that jazz is a minority interest round here.

Art Blakey & the Jazz Messengers w/Wayne Shorter, Bobby Timmons, and Lee Morgan or Freddie Hubbard:

Roots & Herbs (1961)
The Witch Doctor (1961)
The Freedom Rider (1961)
Mosaic (1961)
Buhaina's Delight (1961)

for Miles:

E.S.P (1965)
Miles Smiles (1966)
Sorcerer (1967)
Nefertiti (1967)
Miles in the Sky (1968)

for Coltrane, maybe:

John Coltrane and Johnny Hartman (1963)
Impressions (1963)
Live at Birdland (1964)
Crescent (1964)
A Love Supreme (1965)

(Impressions is the odd one out)

alternate Miles run:

Cookin' with the Miles Davis Quintet (1956)
Relaxin' with the Miles Davis Quintet (1956)
Workin' with the Miles Davis Quintet (1956)
Steamin' with the Miles Davis Quintet (1956)
'Round About Midnight (1955-1956)

Dave Holland Quintet/Big Band:

2000 - Prime Directive - ECM
2001 - Not for Nothin' - ECM
2002 - What Goes Around - ECM
2003 - Extended Play: Live at Birdland - ECM
2005 - Overtime - Dare2

Ornette Coleman's 1st run:
Something Else!!!! (1958)
Tomorrow Is the Question! (1959)
The Shape of Jazz to Come (1959)
Change of the Century (1959)
This Is Our Music (1960)

Herbie Hancock:

Mwandishi (1971)
Crossings (1972)
Sextant (1973)
Head Hunters (1973)
Thrust (1974)

One nomination per poster

wynton, branford, kenny garrett, john scofield, and a bunch of others that came to mind come close, but i couldn't line up five in a row that i would rep for

sorry, just tryin' to help.

hm, my favorite mingus albums are all spread out, and i haven't heard all the clifford brown/max roach records.

Sonny Rollins:

Moving Out (1954)
Work Time (1955)
Saxophone Colossus (1956)
Sonny Rollins Plus Four (1956; the "four" are the other members of the Clifford Brown/Max Roach Quintet)
Tenor Madness (1956)

If it's just one nomination per poster, someone please nominate Pharoah Sander's run from Karma to Black Unity.

By the way, if you're looking for album release years, don't trust Allmusic, because for some reason they list many jazz albums based on the years they were recorded, not their release years. For example, AMG dates Pharoah Sanders' Village of the Pharoahs to 1971, before Black Unity, even though it actually came out in 1973, after Black Unity. Discogs.com is a more trusthworthy source for release years.

damn, i wanted to post Ornette's later run Dancing in Your Head through Virgin Beauty (6), but can't not get Monk on here. hard to pick a run w/Monk, and i could easily pick 10 more by the man:
Brilliant Corners
Thelonious Himself
Monk with Coltrane
Blakey's Jazz Messengers w/Thelonious Monk
Monk's Music

Mingus

Town Hall Concert (1962, Blue Note)
Oh Yeah (1962, Atlantic)
Tijuana Moods (1962, RCA)
The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady (1963, Impulse!)
Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus (1963, Impulse!)

sorry about listing one more, but this is desert island stuff for me.
Sonny Rollins:

Sonny Rollins (the one with the cover that Joe Jackson copied)
Sonny Rollins - plus 4
Saxophone Colossus
Max Roach-Clifford Brown Live at Basin Street
Tenor Madness

off the top of my head I want to nominate at least four different runs - Sun Ra, Archie Shepp, Art Ensemble of Chicago, and RR Kirk, but if I have to pick just one of those four... uh eeep

made more difficult by the fact that there are gaps in my knowledge of all four discographies, and its hard to tell what was recorded/released in what order...

this works pretty well for Sun Ra:

# 1965 – The Heliocentric Worlds of Sun Ra, Volume One by Sun Ra
# 1965 – The Magic City by Sun Ra and his Solar Arkestra
# 1965 – The Heliocentric Worlds of Sun Ra, Volume Two by Sun Ra
# 1966 – Nothing Is by Sun Ra (live)
# 1966 – Strange Strings

yeah i keep looking at jazz discographies and seeing how messy everyone's career really is. Like, there's no really perfect run of Rollins records I can find, just cuz he was putting out 6 albums a year! Was thinking a dark horse could be Hank Mobley -- he had a ridiculously good run in the early 60s.

yeah they just put out so much - anyone of consequence easily has 5+ great albums, but they're not all released one after the other. The good runs are broken up by obscure releases on random labels and stuff like that.

mccoy tyner had a cool run of underrated records in the 70s.

One nomination per poster

this is dumb because there are probably less jazz dbags here than there are worthy nominees

^^^this had also occurred to me

Wayne Shorter:

- Juju, Speak No Evil, The All Seeing Eye, Adam's Apple, Schizophrenia (all for Blue Note)

someone like Jimmy Smith is great, but you look at his discography and holy smokes they were milking him dry! Asterisked records not released at the time, but still!
1957
* A Date With Jimmy Smith Vol. 1
* A Date With Jimmy Smith Vol. 2
* Jimmy Smith At The Organ Vol. 1
* Jimmy Smith At The Organ Vol. 2
* The Sounds of Jimmy Smith
* Groovin' at Small's Vol. 1
* Groovin' at Small's Vol. 2
* Plays Pretty Just for You
* Jimmy Smith Trio + LD *
* Cherokee *
* Lonesome Road *
No matter how inventive/creative a musician is, I just can't imagine that the quality can be kept up.

^^^good call on the Shorter records. Those are all great. Amazing that he was writing/recording w/ Art Blakey during that whole time too! Maybe he goes against what I just said about being able to keep the quality up ...

damn i got beaten to the hancock and mingus nomination

are we counting live stuff? if we can exclude live then
Archie Shepp - Fire Music,On This Night,Three for a Quarter, One for a Dime, Mama Too Tight, The Magic Of Juju.
Of course even with the live albums it would still be a great run. plus it could be a different run with albums at either side of them.

Could actually make a 10 run for Archie Shepp

"E.S.P (1965)
Miles Smiles (1966)
Sorcerer (1967)
Nefertiti (1967)
Miles in the Sky (1968)"

Not sure if live albums excluded but if not I'd drop in the Sky and include Live at the Plugged Nickel. Either way that run of albums wins in a canter for me.

i dont see why there cant be multiple noms for different runs.

or just 1 nom per poster. someone do Pharoah Sanders please.

my biggest problem for a lot of these guys (Pharaoh and Archie Shepp and RR Kirk, etc.) is that I haven't actually HEARD five albums in a row by these guys. I may own way more than 5 albums by each, but none of them are a chronological run

Yeah, I'm looking over Ellington, and he was putting out at least five albums a year in the 50s and 60s, from dance records to suites to collaborations. I suppose you could do it by approach:

The 61-62 collabs:

* Louis Armstrong & Duke Ellington (Roulette).
* ”Together for the First Time! The Count Meets the Duke”
* Duke Ellington & John Coltrane
* Duke Ellington Meets Coleman Hawkins
* Money Jungle

Tho' I havent' heard the first two.

or the late thematic works:

* The Far East Suite
* Latin American Suite (Fantasy)
* New Orleans Suite (Atlantic)
* The Afro-Eurasian Eclipse (Fantasy)
* Toga Brava Suite (Storyville)

But I haven't heard LAS or TBS. I'd still probably choose that. Could argue that ... And Mother Called Him Bill goes in there too, which would seal it.

Hello ILM, back from work.

Live albums are fine for the reason bendy gave upthread.

and the "only one per poster" rule was dumb, I'll take all of Jordan's and any others people want to add. Must have overestimated the jazz appeal.

oops bendy=anagram

Pharoah Sanders - Izipho Zam,Karma,Jewels Of Thought,Deaf Dumb Blind (Summun Bukmun Umyun),Thembi

so,

1. Alice Coltrane:
A Monastic Trio
Huntington Ashram Monastery
Journey In Satchidananda
Ptah, The El Daoud
Universal Consciousness

2. an early Bill Evans run: Portrait in Jazz, Explorations, Sunday at the Village Vanguard, Waltz for Debby, How My Heart Sings!

3. Albert Ayler – Spiritual Unity, New York Eye and Ear Control, Bells, Spirits Rejoice, In Greenwich Village

4. for Miles:

E.S.P (1965)
Miles Smiles (1966)
Sorcerer (1967)
Nefertiti (1967)
Miles in the Sky (1968)

5. for Coltrane, maybe:

John Coltrane and Johnny Hartman (1963)
Impressions (1963)
Live at Birdland (1964)
Crescent (1964)
A Love Supreme (1965)

6. Cookin' with the Miles Davis Quintet (1956)
Relaxin' with the Miles Davis Quintet (1956)
Workin' with the Miles Davis Quintet (1956)
Steamin' with the Miles Davis Quintet (1956)
'Round About Midnight (1955-1956)

7. Dave Holland Quintet/Big Band:

2000 - Prime Directive - ECM
2001 - Not for Nothin' - ECM
2002 - What Goes Around - ECM
2003 - Extended Play: Live at Birdland - ECM
2005 - Overtime - Dare2

8. Ornette Coleman's 1st run:
Something Else!!!! (1958)
Tomorrow Is the Question! (1959)
The Shape of Jazz to Come (1959)
Change of the Century (1959)
This Is Our Music (1960)

9. Herbie Hancock:

Mwandishi (1971)
Crossings (1972)
Sextant (1973)
Head Hunters (1973)
Thrust (1974)

10. Sonny Rollins:

Moving Out (1954)
Work Time (1955)
Saxophone Colossus (1956)
Sonny Rollins Plus Four (1956; the "four" are the other members of the Clifford Brown/Max Roach Quintet)
Tenor Madness (1956)

11. hard to pick a run w/Monk, and i could easily pick 10 more by the man:
Brilliant Corners
Thelonious Himself
Monk with Coltrane
Blakey's Jazz Messengers w/Thelonious Monk
Monk's Music

12. Mingus

Town Hall Concert (1962, Blue Note)
Oh Yeah (1962, Atlantic)
Tijuana Moods (1962, RCA)
The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady (1963, Impulse!)
Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus (1963, Impulse!)

13. Sonny Rollins:

Sonny Rollins (the one with the cover that Joe Jackson copied)
Sonny Rollins - plus 4
Saxophone Colossus
Max Roach-Clifford Brown Live at Basin Street
Tenor Madness

14. Sun Ra:

# 1965 – The Heliocentric Worlds of Sun Ra, Volume One by Sun Ra
# 1965 – The Magic City by Sun Ra and his Solar Arkestra
# 1965 – The Heliocentric Worlds of Sun Ra, Volume Two by Sun Ra
# 1966 – Nothing Is by Sun Ra (live)
# 1966 – Strange Strings

15. Wayne Shorter:

- Juju, Speak No Evil, The All Seeing Eye, Adam's Apple, Schizophrenia (all for Blue Note)

16. Archie Shepp - Fire Music,On This Night,Three for a Quarter, One for a Dime, Mama Too Tight, The Magic Of Juju.

17. The 61-62 collabs:

* Louis Armstrong & Duke Ellington (Roulette).
* ”Together for the First Time! The Count Meets the Duke”
* Duke Ellington & John Coltrane
* Duke Ellington Meets Coleman Hawkins
* Money Jungle

18. the late thematic works:

* The Far East Suite
* Latin American Suite (Fantasy)
* New Orleans Suite (Atlantic)
* The Afro-Eurasian Eclipse (Fantasy)
* Toga Brava Suite (Storyville)

19. Pharoah Sanders - Izipho Zam,Karma,Jewels Of Thought,Deaf Dumb Blind (Summun Bukmun Umyun),Thembi

count live albums if you like, or don't. obviously we need some flexibility here because the whole jazz discography thing is really different than "rock", esp. earlier on cf. that crazy Jimmy Smith 1957 list.

Hancock and Sanders also looking good to me here.

herbie looks like he got my vote too

also, this:

Discogs.com is a more trusthworthy source for release years.

but lets face it, miles and coltrane should have other runs nominated that might push it

surely Miles' electric period deserves a running - easily one of the greatest runs in music ever

# In a Silent Way (1969)
# Bitches Brew (1970)
# A Tribute to Jack Johnson (1970)
# On the Corner (1972)
# Big Fun (1974 - previously unissued recordings from 1969-1972)

cool, #20

nice work excluding Fillmore there

(that was not snark, I was serious)

lolz yeah I stuck with the studio stuff but could just as easily compose a nomination for his live runs from that period - Live/Evil, Dark Magus, Agharta, Pangaea - but d'oh that's only four

Kinda want Hank Mobley in there, because I love these records:
Soul Station 1960
Roll Call 1960
Workout 1961
Another Workout 1961
No Room for Squares 1963

is In Concert that weak? I remember it not being up to par with those others but haven't listened in 3+ years.

xp to Shakey

I don't see how you can have a Coltrane run that doesn't include Ascension.

the 2 miles runs nominated so far ,coltrane,mingus and hancock runs should have been in the supposed best albums run ever poll.

agreed about Ascension

I can't sort out Coltrane's discography though

Also, this Coltrane on Atlantic run would be good:
# Giant Steps
# Coltrane Jazz
# My Favorite Things
# Coltrane Plays the Blues
# Olé Coltrane

Coltrane does have such a weird release schedule -- Prestige was putting out sessions from 1957 in 1963, and so on.

In Concert's pretty good imho. It isn't mindblowing like the Dark Magus/Agharta/Pangaea sets but I think its solid.

Coltrane does have such a weird release schedule -- Prestige was putting out sessions from 1957 in 1963, and so on.

in reference to this, yes for the purposes of this poll I care about RECORDING date, not release date. So that Prestige stuff doesn't count for when it was released.

I realize that may make things a little more complicated but records like that really shouldn't count.

I don't see how you can have a Coltrane run that doesn't include Ascension.

it's pretty easy

it's crazy looking at some of these discographies, you never see anyone (jazz or otherwise) putting out (or at least recording) 5+ albums in the same year.

eh it's ok, those Prestige Coltrane records are good, but nowhere near as good as his best stuff.

unless they are the Legendary Pink Dots or Muslimgauze, but yeah, I agree in general.

xp

and obv. it would still be easy for jazz dudes to record a bunch of blowing sessions, but since it's so much harder to sell records it seems like there's more emphasis on album crafting, composing, etc. today.

it's crazy looking at some of these discographies, you never see anyone (jazz or otherwise) putting out (or at least recording) 5+ albums in the same year.
i do think it's kind of fascinating, and an interesting way to make records, as opposed to what has developed in the last 30 years or so. More like, let's just go into the studio a couple times a year and see what happens, rather than laboring over a record for 2-3 years.

the noise ,drone and some metal bands (and boris) manage 5+ albums a year (whether theyre much cop is a different matter)

well there's a different methodology to this stuff - focus is on improv and composition, no overdubs, no convoluted production issues. Its not like it takes a year to mix a record of four guys playing analog instruments live.

20.
# In a Silent Way (1969)
# Bitches Brew (1970)
# A Tribute to Jack Johnson (1970)
# On the Corner (1972)
# Big Fun (1974 - previously unissued recordings from 1969-1972)

21.
Hank Mobley:
Soul Station 1960
Roll Call 1960
Workout 1961
Another Workout 1961
No Room for Squares 1963

22. Coltrane on Atlantic:
# Giant Steps
# Coltrane Jazz
# My Favorite Things
# Coltrane Plays the Blues
# Olé Coltrane

i wanted to do horace silver but i've only heard finger poppin', blowin' the blues away, tokyo blues, and song for my father, which are broken up by some others inbetween.

noise bands can obviously crank 'em out because their methodology bears the most resemblance to jazz

whos deciding on the grant green run?

Anthony Braxton's discography is enormous but I'm going to nominate five of the albums he did for Arista in the 70s. An extraordinary time this, when an artist as marginal as Braxton got all the support and funding from a major label he needed, including the freedom to produce his magnum opus, For Four Orchestras. And I'm aware of all the Braxton-is-not-jazz arguments, but I think this thread badly needs him.

New York, Fall 1974
Five Pieces 1975
The Montreux/Berlin Concerts
Creative Orchestra Music 1976
For Four Orchestras

excellent, I wouldn't have known where to start with him.

getting some good recommendations here!

I have New York but nothing else from this period.

Yeah, I have a major blind spot when it comes to Braxton -- thanks for the reccs. As for Grant Green, I looked at his discography and couldn't find five really excellent albums in a row, at least that I've heard. Love the guy, but it might've been another case of being a little watered down by the sheer number of records Blue Note put out.

Oh man this thread is going to dominate my listening habits over the next month or so.

What about people who had albums recorded but unreleased? Thinking mb of Andrew Hill, but don't understand his discography enough, plus have only heard three of the run-of-five I'd want

Also, wikipedia has 11 Eric Dolphy records for 1960. 11! I do doubt that there's a run in there that fits the remit of the thread though.

hey sam theres loads of this stuff on Spotify btw

i'd like to see this Mingus run:

Pithecanthropus Erectus (1956, Atlantic)
The Clown (1957, Atlantic)
Blues & Roots (1959, Atlantic)
Mingus Ah Um (1959, Columbia)
Mingus Dynasty (1959, Columbia)

I know! I'm listening to Freddie Hubbard atm on spotify! (on a 'what bluenote cover looks best must be listened to first' basis.)

yeah that Mingus run looks slightly better than the other one. Not to go nuts w/ Miles nominations, but the five live album run here is pretty astounding:
# My Funny Valentine (1964)
# Four & More (1964)
# Miles In Tokyo (1964)
# Miles In Berlin (1964)
# The Complete Live at the Plugged Nickel 1965 (1965)

ps this is more fun than talking about p4ks best albums of the 00s innit?

i dunno, i'm not sure kid a has been talked about enough on the internet.

re: Art Ensemble of Chicago - there's GOT to be a five album run in here, but I've tagged what I haven't heard. can someone else weigh in...?

A Jackson in Your House 1969 (amazing album)
Tutankhamun 1969 *
The Spiritual 1969 *
People in Sorrow 1969*
Message to Our Folks 1969 (amazing album)
Reese and the Smooth Ones 1969 (also amazing!)
Eda Wobu 1969 * (never even heard of this until today)
Certain Blacks 1970 (great)
Go Home 1970 *
Chi-Congo 1970 *
Les Stances a Sophie 1970 (their best)
Live in Paris 1970 *
Art Ensemble of Chicago with Fontella Bass 1970
Phase One 1971 *
Live at Mandell Hall * 1972
Bap-Tizum (their second best!)

someone could probably rep for the first five bobby hutcherson albums (on blue note), but i haven't heard most of them.

booker ervin:

The Freedom Book (1963)
The Song Book (1964)
The Blues Book (1964)
The Space Book (1964)
Setting The Pace (1965)

do u guys think that Black Saint and the Sinner Lady was the Kid A of its time or the Funeral of its time

joe henderson:

1963: Page One
1963: Our Thing
1964: In 'N Out
1964: Inner Urge
1966: Mode for Joe

man, the Discogs for Rahsaan Roland Kirk is a mess. I tried to find a good 5-album run but Left & Right kinda screws things up and I haven't heard Prepare Thyself... does it rate up there with Blacknuss or Volunteered Slavery?

hmmm about AAC, don't know.

Since I am always stanning for Nicole Mitchell and we're talking about Chicago AACM stuff I might as well put her in there:

Vision Quest (2001)
Africa Rising (2002)
Hope, Future, Destiny (2004)
Black Unstoppable (2007)
Xenogenesis (2009)

Tuomas if you haven't heard these you should.

Lee Morgan:

Lee-Way
Take Twelve
The Sidewinder
Search For A New Land
Tom Cat

oh shit, brad mehldau:

Elegiac Cycle (1999)
The Art of the Trio, Vol. IV — Back At The Vanguard (1999)
Places (2000)
The Art of the Trio, Vol. V — Progression (2001)
Largo (2002)

also if we get up to 40 I'm gonna cut it off for 24 hours to give other time zones a chance, choose well.

we're at 30 now not counting AAC.

brad mehldau is the radiohead of jazz guys who play radiohead songs

^^automatic winner

Left & Right kinda screws things up and I haven't heard Prepare Thyself... does it rate up there with Blacknuss or Volunteered Slavery?

yeah I haven't heard Left & Right so can't comment on that. Prepare Thyself is pretty great. Some weird sound effects (breaking glass?) on one track iirc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C3A-ml85B8

Oh man this thread is going to dominate my listening habits over the next month or so.

― I'M LEGALLY A MIDGET (a hoy hoy), Friday, October 2, 2009 12:23 PM

do u guys think that Black Saint and the Sinner Lady was the Kid A of its time or the Funeral of its time

― tylerw, Friday, October 2, 2009 10:31 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

nah, it was clearly the Discovery of its time.

was trying to come up w/ a Don Cherry nomination, but I haven't heard enough (even though I have like 20 of his albums). But this is probably good enough for a poll, right?

discogs.com kinda useless for trad jazz

23. Braxton
New York, Fall 1974
Five Pieces 1975
The Montreux/Berlin Concerts
Creative Orchestra Music 1976
For Four Orchestras

24. Mingus run:

Pithecanthropus Erectus (1956, Atlantic)
The Clown (1957, Atlantic)
Blues & Roots (1959, Atlantic)
Mingus Ah Um (1959, Columbia)
Mingus Dynasty (1959, Columbia)

25. Miles again:
# My Funny Valentine (1964)
# Four & More (1964)
# Miles In Tokyo (1964)
# Miles In Berlin (1964)
# The Complete Live at the Plugged Nickel 1965 (1965)

26. booker ervin:

The Freedom Book (1963)
The Song Book (1964)
The Blues Book (1964)
The Space Book (1964)
Setting The Pace (1965)

27. joe henderson:

1963: Page One
1963: Our Thing
1964: In 'N Out
1964: Inner Urge
1966: Mode for Joe

28. Nicole Mitchell:

Vision Quest (2001)
Africa Rising (2002)
Hope, Future, Destiny (2004)
Black Unstoppable (2007)
Xenogenesis (2009)

29. Lee Morgan:

Lee-Way
Take Twelve
The Sidewinder
Search For A New Land
Tom Cat

30. brad mehldau:

Elegiac Cycle (1999)
The Art of the Trio, Vol. IV — Back At The Vanguard (1999)
Places (2000)
The Art of the Trio, Vol. V — Progression (2001)
Largo (2002)

I'm pretty sure Sarah Vaughn had more than one record in the '50s. I'm sure a lot of that is due to the "submissions pending" though.

xps yeah I thought about Cherry but don't know enough.

and the whole LP format gets really untenable before the mid-50's, so people like Shaw and Goodman and Armstrong are losing out here, no idea how to do a poll on prewar stuff except by artist as the only criteria.

actually could i change that mehldau run to this? just because elegiac cycle is a solo album, that i haven't heard more than once.

The Art of the Trio, Vol. IV — Back At The Vanguard (1999)
Places (2000)
The Art of the Trio, Vol. V — Progression (2001)
Largo (2002)
Anything Goes (2004)

sure, duly noted.

allmusic seems pretty good w/ years and 'ting.

we covered Ellington, but what no love for Basie up in here

(don't look at me fwiw I only own a couple Basie albums! and pretty random ones at that)

Mustn't forget these guys (RIP):

Esbjorn Svensson Trio:

Good Morning Susie Soho
Strange Place For Snow
Seven Days of Falling
Viaticum
Tuesday Wonderland

i love atomic mr. basie to death but haven't really gone beyond that :(

Esbjorn Svensson Trio

who?

This is getting my vote:

On The Corner
Get Up With It!
Dark Magus
Agharta
Pangaea

the problem there is that most of us (i assume) have heard the pre-'50s greats via compilations only.

xpost Basie is another tough one in the LP age -- I've heard some great stuff (Atomic Basie), but looking over his 50s-60s output, there is soooooo much I have no idea about.

how 'bout Dizzy? anyone?

who?

Swedish jazz piano-led trio who crossed over into the rock world with great success. Played loud and thumping. They were fab. Svensson ied in a diving accident last year.

um, died

srsly tho? a since the history of recorded music jazz poll limited to 50 options where more than one option was recorded in the last 10 years? the other aspies are going to laugh at us.

nothing worse than the derisive laughter of aspies

fellow aspies please.

31 now. I think new stuff is fine since we kind of have to go with the "released LP" definition which is hard to do with trad jazz as noted. And only 3 out of 31 are new!

I think I'm gonna reluctantly exclude improv like Brotzmann, AMM, Bailey et al.

John Zorn's Masada?

a since the history of recorded music jazz poll limited to 50 options where more than one option was recorded in the last 10 years

There is nothing wrong with this at all. If this thread demonstrates anything it's that jazz, unlike rock, is not an album-oriented genre. It's all about the performance. For so many of these guys, albums are to all intents and purposes incidental to what they do.

i haven't heard many of the masada studio releases, just a couple awesome live albums (sevilla, tonic).

true, but the some of the most successful were all about album-length statements (and can probably owe their success to being good at that, at least in part?).

I think I'm gonna reluctantly exclude improv like Brotzmann, AMM, Bailey et al

Why's that, then? Certainly Brotzmann and Evan Parker come out of the jazz tradition, although people like AMM and Bailey are kind of off to the side I agree.

Does Supersilent count as jazz?

speaking of masada, one could definitely do a good five album run for dave douglas, if one were so inclined

OK then, Brotzmann for sure, I was reconsidering Last Exit as I wrote that. Just want to slow things down a bit.

xp re:Masada all I know is that Bar Kokhba is stupendous, haven't heard anything else. also LOL it is not on Discogs, it is Tzadik 1996.

suggestions for nomination pending further research/input/knowledge:

dizzy
basie
AAC
Roland Kirk
Don Cherry
Sarah Vaughn

James Carter:

1995: The Real Quietstorm
1996: Conversin' with the Elders
1998: In Carterian Fashion
2000: Layin' in the Cut
2000: Chasin' the Gypsy

keep in mind what you're up against with the previous nominations!

xxxpost there are a few Jazz Canon album-length statements that might be overrated in this day and age *because* the idea of the album has been so implanted in everybody's brains. If that makes sense. A Love Supreme might not even be in my top 5 Coltrane recordings, but it's probably the one that would be #1 on a Coltrane poll, because it's an "album" with a "theme" rather than just a recording session.

Sonny Sharrock:

1986: Guitar
1987: Seize the Rainbow
1990: Highlife
1991: Faith Moves (duo with Nicky Skopelitis)
1991: Ask the Ages

gotta get some more electric guitar stuff in there, no?

i need to hear more Sharrock. Only have Ask the Ages from that list.

xxxpost - Thank you Tuomas for reminding me that I need to pick up a copy of Thrust. It's the only one of those 5 that I'm missing...

33 now, remember I need to leave time for Australia, Finland, etc to make more noms when they wake up.

xp yeah the whole issue of "what is an album" really gets highlighted by this, that is one reason why 70's and later stuff might be easier to pick. and it seems like that tradition is holding on in jazz as opposed to a lot of other genres that are collapsing into singles.

Guitar will melt your mind, Tyler.

xxp

and youre missing a wonderful album nate

Peter Brötzmann, then. Has to be the early albums:

For Adolphe Sax
Machine Gun
Nipples
Balls
Brötzmann/Van Hove/Bennink

This gets very complicated when you consider that (as in Brötzmann's case) there are sessions which were recorded at one time but not released until many years later. Should they count in the five-album run?

thats a great run

use your best judgment xp

I'll count that so here we go, some of the list got eaten by the middle of the thread:

34 now at 40 I'm gonna cut it off until 10 PM PST in the US i.e. in a little over 8 hours.

wtf my formatting came out weird gimme a minute with the full list.

surely if we go over 50 we can just use our judgement and leave out stuff that we know wont get any votes

Deal, have at it. Then I can just sort through a long list and I reserve the right to throw out stuff I've never heard of etc to get 50.

Also, feel free to second other people's nominations that may be more obscure so I can gauge their support.

1. Alice Coltrane:
A Monastic Trio
Huntington Ashram Monastery
Journey In Satchidananda
Ptah, The El Daoud
Universal Consciousness

2. an early Bill Evans run: Portrait in Jazz, Explorations, Sunday at the Village Vanguard, Waltz for Debby, How My Heart Sings!

3. Albert Ayler – Spiritual Unity, New York Eye and Ear Control, Bells, Spirits Rejoice, In Greenwich Village

4. for Miles:

E.S.P (1965)
Miles Smiles (1966)
Sorcerer (1967)
Nefertiti (1967)
Miles in the Sky (1968)

5. for Coltrane, maybe:

John Coltrane and Johnny Hartman (1963)
Impressions (1963)
Live at Birdland (1964)
Crescent (1964)
A Love Supreme (1965)

6. Cookin' with the Miles Davis Quintet (1956)
Relaxin' with the Miles Davis Quintet (1956)
Workin' with the Miles Davis Quintet (1956)
Steamin' with the Miles Davis Quintet (1956)
'Round About Midnight (1955-1956)

7. Dave Holland Quintet/Big Band:

2000 - Prime Directive - ECM
2001 - Not for Nothin' - ECM
2002 - What Goes Around - ECM
2003 - Extended Play: Live at Birdland - ECM
2005 - Overtime - Dare2

8. Ornette Coleman's 1st run:
Something Else!!!! (1958)
Tomorrow Is the Question! (1959)
The Shape of Jazz to Come (1959)
Change of the Century (1959)
This Is Our Music (1960)

9. Herbie Hancock:

Mwandishi (1971)
Crossings (1972)
Sextant (1973)
Head Hunters (1973)
Thrust (1974)

10. Sonny Rollins:

Moving Out (1954)
Work Time (1955)
Saxophone Colossus (1956)
Sonny Rollins Plus Four (1956; the "four" are the other members of the Clifford Brown/Max Roach Quintet)
Tenor Madness (1956)

11. hard to pick a run w/Monk, and i could easily pick 10 more by the man:
Brilliant Corners
Thelonious Himself
Monk with Coltrane
Blakey's Jazz Messengers w/Thelonious Monk
Monk's Music

12. Mingus

Town Hall Concert (1962, Blue Note)
Oh Yeah (1962, Atlantic)
Tijuana Moods (1962, RCA)
The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady (1963, Impulse!)
Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus (1963, Impulse!)

13. Sonny Rollins:

Sonny Rollins (the one with the cover that Joe Jackson copied)
Sonny Rollins - plus 4
Saxophone Colossus
Max Roach-Clifford Brown Live at Basin Street
Tenor Madness

14. Sun Ra:

# 1965 – The Heliocentric Worlds of Sun Ra, Volume One by Sun Ra
# 1965 – The Magic City by Sun Ra and his Solar Arkestra
# 1965 – The Heliocentric Worlds of Sun Ra, Volume Two by Sun Ra
# 1966 – Nothing Is by Sun Ra (live)
# 1966 – Strange Strings

15. Wayne Shorter:

- Juju, Speak No Evil, The All Seeing Eye, Adam's Apple, Schizophrenia (all for Blue Note)

16. Archie Shepp - Fire Music,On This Night,Three for a Quarter, One for a Dime, Mama Too Tight, The Magic Of Juju.

17. The 61-62 collabs:

* Louis Armstrong & Duke Ellington (Roulette).
* ”Together for the First Time! The Count Meets the Duke”
* Duke Ellington & John Coltrane
* Duke Ellington Meets Coleman Hawkins
* Money Jungle

18. the late thematic works:

* The Far East Suite
* Latin American Suite (Fantasy)
* New Orleans Suite (Atlantic)
* The Afro-Eurasian Eclipse (Fantasy)
* Toga Brava Suite (Storyville)

19. Pharoah Sanders - Izipho Zam,Karma,Jewels Of Thought,Deaf Dumb Blind (Summun Bukmun Umyun),Thembi

20.
# In a Silent Way (1969)
# Bitches Brew (1970)
# A Tribute to Jack Johnson (1970)
# On the Corner (1972)
# Big Fun (1974 - previously unissued recordings from 1969-1972)

21.
Hank Mobley:
Soul Station 1960
Roll Call 1960
Workout 1961
Another Workout 1961
No Room for Squares 1963

22. Coltrane on Atlantic:
# Giant Steps
# Coltrane Jazz
# My Favorite Things
# Coltrane Plays the Blues
# Olé Coltrane

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23. Braxton
New York, Fall 1974
Five Pieces 1975
The Montreux/Berlin Concerts
Creative Orchestra Music 1976
For Four Orchestras

24. Mingus run:

Pithecanthropus Erectus (1956, Atlantic)
The Clown (1957, Atlantic)
Blues & Roots (1959, Atlantic)
Mingus Ah Um (1959, Columbia)
Mingus Dynasty (1959, Columbia)

25. Miles again:
# My Funny Valentine (1964)
# Four & More (1964)
# Miles In Tokyo (1964)
# Miles In Berlin (1964)
# The Complete Live at the Plugged Nickel 1965 (1965)

26. booker ervin:

The Freedom Book (1963)
The Song Book (1964)
The Blues Book (1964)
The Space Book (1964)
Setting The Pace (1965)

27. joe henderson:

1963: Page One
1963: Our Thing
1964: In 'N Out
1964: Inner Urge
1966: Mode for Joe

28. Nicole Mitchell:

Vision Quest (2001)
Africa Rising (2002)
Hope, Future, Destiny (2004)
Black Unstoppable (2007)
Xenogenesis (2009)

29. Lee Morgan:

Lee-Way
Take Twelve
The Sidewinder
Search For A New Land
Tom Cat

30. brad mehldau:

The Art of the Trio, Vol. IV — Back At The Vanguard (1999)
Places (2000)
The Art of the Trio, Vol. V — Progression (2001)
Largo (2002)
Anything Goes (2004)

31. Esbjorn Svensson Trio:

Good Morning Susie Soho
Strange Place For Snow
Seven Days of Falling
Viaticum
Tuesday Wonderland

32. James Carter:

1995: The Real Quietstorm
1996: Conversin' with the Elders
1998: In Carterian Fashion
2000: Layin' in the Cut
2000: Chasin' the Gypsy

33. Sonny Sharrock:

1986: Guitar
1987: Seize the Rainbow
1990: Highlife
1991: Faith Moves (duo with Nicky Skopelitis)
1991: Ask the Ages

34. Peter Brötzmann:

For Adolphe Sax
Machine Gun
Nipples
Balls
Brötzmann/Van Hove/Bennink

18 is also Ellington btw

Bobby Hutchersons 1st 5 Blue Note albums are awesome.

1965 Spiral
1965 Dialogue
1965 Components
1966 Happenings
1966 Stick-Up!

I will vote Miles if his late 50s albums are nominated. Otherwise, no point voting, unless some 70s or 80s Herbie Hancock or Weather Report is in there.

no point voting

Thanks for your input Geir.

9. Herbie Hancock:

Mwandishi (1971)
Crossings (1972)
Sextant (1973)
Head Hunters (1973)
Thrust (1974)

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20.
# In a Silent Way (1969)
# Bitches Brew (1970)
# A Tribute to Jack Johnson (1970)
# On the Corner (1972)
# Big Fun (1974 - previously unissued recordings from 1969-1972)

Why Big Fun instead of Get Up With It?

yeah folks feel free to debate the existing runs, change or withdraw your nominations, etc.

Grant Green:
1963 Am I Blue?
1963 Idle Moments
1964 Matador
1964 Solid
1964 Talkin' About!

Probably Ray Charles around 1961, circa The Genius After Hours.

I have an awesome 7 album run by Donald Byrd that I dunno how to split.

I'll post the 7 and others can help to decide which 5!

1969 Kofi Blue Note
1970 Electric Byrd Blue Note
1971 Ethiopian Knights Blue Note
1972 Black Byrd Blue Note
1973 Street Lady Blue Note
1974 Stepping into Tomorrow Blue Note
1975 Places and Spaces Blue Note

if because its jazz-funk and you want to replace it with his 60s stuff then feel free go ahead. But what a run!

Which thread does Tangerine Dream belong on? Because they made a lot more than 5 good albums in a row...

that is true but not really applicable here as with AMM.

Herbie Hancock for me starts with "Head Hunters". But the five album run from "Head Hunters" onwards is quite nice.

then youre missing shitloads of amazing herbie hancock

It's Geir-town, Herman.

i thought you liked chord progressions, geir? acoustic herbie has a lot more of those.

these two entries are more or less identical (so that frees up one spot):

10. Sonny Rollins:

Moving Out (1954)
Work Time (1955)
Saxophone Colossus (1956)
Sonny Rollins Plus Four (1956; the "four" are the other members of the Clifford Brown/Max Roach Quintet)
Tenor Madness (1956)

13. Sonny Rollins:

Sonny Rollins (the one with the cover that Joe Jackson copied)
Sonny Rollins - plus 4
Saxophone Colossus
Max Roach-Clifford Brown Live at Basin Street
Tenor Madness

Keith Jarrett:

Facing You
Fort Yawah
Ruta & Daitya
Solo Concerts
Belonging

Cecil Taylor (whose discography is almost impossible to navigate - all the records released in sequence by Leo, New World, HatHut and especially FMP are magnificent, but i am especially partial to the late 70s CT Unit w/ Ronald Shannon Jackson and Ramsey Ameen on the greatest free violin this side of Greenwich Village era Ayler - even if i can't somehow fit my absolute fave from this time, It Is In The Brewing Luminous, into the sequence given on Discogs):

3 Phasis
Live in the Black Forest (another real fave)
Silent Tongues (totes OUT and intense solo Cecil from slightly earlier, 74)
Great Paris Concert (dbl alb from the early 60s Cafe Monmartre live stuff w/ Murray and Lyons, now heard to better advantage on Revenant's Nefertiti, the Beautiful One Has Come set)
One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye

Don't think I've heard quite enough david s ware alb's to pick out five, but i bet unperson cld

OK I'll take 10 instead of 13 for Rollins, sorry outdoor miner.

up to 37 then.

and god damn AMM's 5 albums from 1991 to 1997 (not counting reissues or Laminates) are AMAZING when I look at them. Nameless Uncarved Block, Newfoundland, From A Strange Place, Live In Allentown, While Driving To The Chapel.

they'd maybe get two votes though.

been meaning to hear some of those keith jarrett albums for years. i'm not a huge fan or anything, but there's a pretty fascinating interview with him here:

http://thebadplus.typepad.com/dothemath/2009/09/interview-with-keith-jarrett.html

Should we nominate Mahavishnu Orchestra?

you could possibly split it into two polls, sleeve: say, one for the old guys; another for the young Turks and assorted avant weirdness.

xp

yes. but don't forget to include Devotion.

Why Big Fun instead of Get Up With It?

eh I think Big Fun was released first? Can't tell. I'm totally happy with subbing Get Up With It in there, that's an amazing album

I think of Big Fun as being an odds & sods collection and Get Up With It as an album, but given that both are culled from sessions across a number of years it is sort of an arbitrary distinction, isn' it?

I like Get Up With It more so I would prefer that being in there. As I said before whatever Miles Electric series ends up in there is the one I'm probably voting for.

id go with Get Up With It myself

If live albums count, I'm gonna nominate this run:

Leon Thomas

Spirits Known and Unknown (1969)
The Leon Thomas Album (1970)
In Berlin (live) (1971)
Blues and the Soulful Truth (1972)
Full Circle (1973)

I know this isn't considered a classic run in any way, and Full Circle is a bit uneven, but these albums contain some of the most earthy and spiritual vocal jazz and soul ever made. It's a pity Leon Thomas is mostly just remembered for his work with Pharoah (which is great too, of course).

thank u Tuomas, now that Scandinavia is up let's just keep going to 50 (we're at 38).

a reminder, these have been mentioned:

dizzy
basie
AAC
Roland Kirk
Don Cherry
Sarah Vaughn
Ray Charles
Mahavishnu

I'm going to reserve 6 spots for those 8 artists hoping that someone can put together five albums runs, that leaves us 6 more for nominations.

fuck yeah:
34. Peter Brötzmann:

For Adolphe Sax
Machine Gun
Nipples
Balls
Brötzmann/Van Hove/Bennink

6 more nominations until we start cutting stuff, that is...

xpost to myself

I'll close the thread 8 hours from now and make a poll. Again, feel free to discuss or cosign or bicker.

35. Bobby Hutcherson:

1965 Spiral
1965 Dialogue
1965 Components
1966 Happenings
1966 Stick-Up!

36. Grant Green:
1963 Am I Blue?
1963 Idle Moments
1964 Matador
1964 Solid
1964 Talkin' About!

37. some form of Donald Byrd's:
1969 Kofi Blue Note
1970 Electric Byrd Blue Note
1971 Ethiopian Knights Blue Note
1972 Black Byrd Blue Note
1973 Street Lady Blue Note
1974 Stepping into Tomorrow Blue Note
1975 Places and Spaces Blue Note

38. Keith Jarrett:

Facing You
Fort Yawah
Ruta & Daitya
Solo Concerts
Belonging

39. Cecil Taylor :
3 Phasis
Live in the Black Forest (another real fave)
Silent Tongues (totes OUT and intense solo Cecil from slightly earlier, 74)
Great Paris Concert (dbl alb from the early 60s Cafe Monmartre live stuff w/ Murray and Lyons, now heard to better advantage on Revenant's Nefertiti, the Beautiful One Has Come set)
One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye

40. Leon Thomas

Spirits Known and Unknown (1969)
The Leon Thomas Album (1970)
In Berlin (live) (1971)
Blues and the Soulful Truth (1972)
Full Circle (1973)

more than I thought

The Thing!!

# The Thing (2000)
# She Knows... (with Joe McPhee) (2001)
# Garage (2004)
# Live at Blå (2004)
# Action Jazz (2006)

if noone says otherwise id say go with the 1st 5 Byrd tho tuomas or shakey might argue otherwise.

Keep the poll open for a few weeks so we maximise discussion please! Give everyone time to listen to lots of stuff before voting.

Is it possible to construct a dolphy that includes the 3 volumes of Live at The Five Spot and Out There?

I don't actually know Byrd's discography that well! I know a few of his funkier tunes from comps but the only full length I have is "A New Perspective", which is killer.

OK, I have never done a poll before let alone one this ridiculous in scope. I'll give it until next Friday.

xpost to Hermann

a week? too short! gotta give people time to listen to as much as they can. 2 weeks til friday would be better imo. Its a lot of stuff to listen through.

longer if people want, but I'd like to think we can cut 100+ down to 50 in a week or so.

Again, people could give preliminary votes here that would help determine the final 50 poll options. I'd still vote Alice Coltrane, Harbie, or the first Mingus and Alex In SF would vote the electric Miles run. Anyone else got 1 to 3 favorites?

I'm not super familiar with Byrd, but I wouldn't include Stepping into Tomorrow in any "five best albums" list, most of it is mediocre, overtly polished Mizell brothers fusion stuff (and I like fusion in general).

oh i thought you meant the final poll of 50. that should be 2 weeks.

tuomas,like i said, the 1st 5 will do me.

yeah, I meant end the nomination discussion in a week.

especially since now I wanna listen to Keith Jarrett and Cecil Taylor. it would also give time to get groups like the AAC in.

i'm seeing conflicting dates for Ayler's "Witches and Devils" ... which should be on his list, if it fits in chronologically

my vote will probably go to Miles' electric period too unless I have the chance to track down those Art Ensemble albums I've never heard before and they turn out to be great... would also be inclined to vote for Sun Ra.

There's a bunch of stuff on here I've never dug into, feel particularly guilty about my Mingus blindspot

shame on you!

it's gonna be Ayler vs. Brotzmann vs. Braxton for me

Dolphy

1. Out There
2. Caribe
3. Far Cry
4. Live At The Five Spot with Booker Little v. 1
5. Live At The Five Spot v. 2

I know everybody likes Out To Lunch but you can't make a great run with that in it...

it's gonna be Ayler vs. Brotzmann vs. Braxton for me

Cool, those were the three I nominated.

hey I know Mingus Ah Um and St. and the Sinner Lady at least!

though no "Witches and Devils" is breaking my heart

nice work on the Dolphy

Ayler vs. Brotzmann vs. Braxton for me

all blinds spots for me except I have some Ayler stuff from Holy Ghost somewhere

I feel like I should vote for Herbie because he's probably my favourite jazz artist of all time, and Sextant is my favourite album ever, but it's pretty hard to pass Alice, Pharoah, or Leon either. Looking at that list, I guess I guess late 60s/early 70s really is my favourite period in jazz, when jazz folks were experimenting with all sorts of shit coming from all directions, but fusion hadn't yet cemented into a bunch of cliches. I think Kodwo Eshun calls that era "fission jazz", which sounds apt to me.

that's a great term

59-75 is my fave era. But like stuff before it but not as much after it

though no "Witches and Devils" is breaking my heart

Yeah, sorry about that, I just thought Spiritual Unity was the one where he really found his own voice and ran with it from there. Thankfully the run stops before New Grass.

wasn't expecting to see something like "healing force" on the list at any rate

I love McCoy Tyner's Enlightenment and Trident a shitload but I don't know the stuff in between all that well...

Was trying to figure out a Cannonball Adderley run, but he's another one where I actually haven't heard a ton of his albums. Anyone?

I haven't heard Enlightenment, but Song of the New World, the album that came before it, is very nice. It has some great big band/string arrangements, which sound both monumental and airy.

cannonball's prestige albs are v. v. consistent, so if you like his sound/material you'll prob like em all; a bit like hank mobley i find it all very pleasant, cannonball especially had incredible chops, beautiful soulful fluid sound, great for ballards etc., but ultimately, post-coltrane, just not that exciting.

sonny clark's run of blue note albs is incredibly solid, tho yeah, horace silver is mr consistency, def.

i was thinking of sonny clark but i assumed noone would vote for him

How about for Horace Silver

1964 Song for My Father
1965 The Cape Verdean Blues
1966 The Jody Grind
1968 Serenade to a Soul Sister
1969 You Gotta Take a Little Love

i tell you one thing, that Hank Mobley run takes some beating.

Jimmy Smith:

1960 Crazy! Baby
1960 Open House
1960 Back at the Chicken Shack
1960 Midnight Special
1960 Prayer Meetin'

He had so much out that year its hard to know when what was recorded but I think thats a run worth being in there

Oh and I must nominate

Lonnie Liston Smith. This is one of my favourite runs ever. If it wasnt for Herbie I'd maybe vote for this

Lonnie Liston Smith
1973 Astral Traveling
1974 Cosmic Funk
1974 Expansions
1976 Reflections of a Golden Dream
1977 Live!

How about?

James Blood Ulmer:
1978 Tales of Captain Black
1980 Are You Glad to Be in America?
1981 Free Lancing
1982 Black Rock
1984 Odyssey

Or am i nominating too much?

no, those are great ones. Love the Ulmer and never heard the Smith, must investigate.

EITHER Smith, that is.

well I cant think of anything else right now so perhaps you can post the full nominations so far and see whats left?

1. Alice Coltrane:
A Monastic Trio
Huntington Ashram Monastery
Journey In Satchidananda
Ptah, The El Daoud
Universal Consciousness

2. an early Bill Evans run: Portrait in Jazz, Explorations, Sunday at the Village Vanguard, Waltz for Debby, How My Heart Sings!

3. Albert Ayler – Spiritual Unity, New York Eye and Ear Control, Bells, Spirits Rejoice, In Greenwich Village

4. for Miles:

E.S.P (1965)
Miles Smiles (1966)
Sorcerer (1967)
Nefertiti (1967)
Miles in the Sky (1968)

5. for Coltrane, maybe:

John Coltrane and Johnny Hartman (1963)
Impressions (1963)
Live at Birdland (1964)
Crescent (1964)
A Love Supreme (1965)

6. Cookin' with the Miles Davis Quintet (1956)
Relaxin' with the Miles Davis Quintet (1956)
Workin' with the Miles Davis Quintet (1956)
Steamin' with the Miles Davis Quintet (1956)
'Round About Midnight (1955-1956)

7. Dave Holland Quintet/Big Band:

2000 - Prime Directive - ECM
2001 - Not for Nothin' - ECM
2002 - What Goes Around - ECM
2003 - Extended Play: Live at Birdland - ECM
2005 - Overtime - Dare2

8. Ornette Coleman's 1st run:
Something Else!!!! (1958)
Tomorrow Is the Question! (1959)
The Shape of Jazz to Come (1959)
Change of the Century (1959)
This Is Our Music (1960)

9. Herbie Hancock:

Mwandishi (1971)
Crossings (1972)
Sextant (1973)
Head Hunters (1973)
Thrust (1974)

10. Sonny Rollins:

Moving Out (1954)
Work Time (1955)
Saxophone Colossus (1956)
Sonny Rollins Plus Four (1956; the "four" are the other members of the Clifford Brown/Max Roach Quintet)
Tenor Madness (1956)

11. hard to pick a run w/Monk, and i could easily pick 10 more by the man:
Brilliant Corners
Thelonious Himself
Monk with Coltrane
Blakey's Jazz Messengers w/Thelonious Monk
Monk's Music

12. Mingus

Town Hall Concert (1962, Blue Note)
Oh Yeah (1962, Atlantic)
Tijuana Moods (1962, RCA)
The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady (1963, Impulse!)
Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus (1963, Impulse!)

14. Sun Ra:

# 1965 – The Heliocentric Worlds of Sun Ra, Volume One by Sun Ra
# 1965 – The Magic City by Sun Ra and his Solar Arkestra
# 1965 – The Heliocentric Worlds of Sun Ra, Volume Two by Sun Ra
# 1966 – Nothing Is by Sun Ra (live)
# 1966 – Strange Strings

15. Wayne Shorter:

- Juju, Speak No Evil, The All Seeing Eye, Adam's Apple, Schizophrenia (all for Blue Note)

16. Archie Shepp - Fire Music,On This Night,Three for a Quarter, One for a Dime, Mama Too Tight, The Magic Of Juju.

17. The 61-62 collabs:

* Louis Armstrong & Duke Ellington (Roulette).
* ”Together for the First Time! The Count Meets the Duke”
* Duke Ellington & John Coltrane
* Duke Ellington Meets Coleman Hawkins
* Money Jungle

18. the late thematic works:

* The Far East Suite
* Latin American Suite (Fantasy)
* New Orleans Suite (Atlantic)
* The Afro-Eurasian Eclipse (Fantasy)
* Toga Brava Suite (Storyville)

19. Pharoah Sanders - Izipho Zam,Karma,Jewels Of Thought,Deaf Dumb Blind (Summun Bukmun Umyun),Thembi

20.
# In a Silent Way (1969)
# Bitches Brew (1970)
# A Tribute to Jack Johnson (1970)
# On the Corner (1972)
# Big Fun (1974 - previously unissued recordings from 1969-1972)

21.
Hank Mobley:
Soul Station 1960
Roll Call 1960
Workout 1961
Another Workout 1961
No Room for Squares 1963

22. Coltrane on Atlantic:
# Giant Steps
# Coltrane Jazz
# My Favorite Things
# Coltrane Plays the Blues
# Olé Coltrane

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23. Braxton
New York, Fall 1974
Five Pieces 1975
The Montreux/Berlin Concerts
Creative Orchestra Music 1976
For Four Orchestras

24. Mingus run:

Pithecanthropus Erectus (1956, Atlantic)
The Clown (1957, Atlantic)
Blues & Roots (1959, Atlantic)
Mingus Ah Um (1959, Columbia)
Mingus Dynasty (1959, Columbia)

25. Miles again:
# My Funny Valentine (1964)
# Four & More (1964)
# Miles In Tokyo (1964)
# Miles In Berlin (1964)
# The Complete Live at the Plugged Nickel 1965 (1965)

26. booker ervin:

The Freedom Book (1963)
The Song Book (1964)
The Blues Book (1964)
The Space Book (1964)
Setting The Pace (1965)

27. joe henderson:

1963: Page One
1963: Our Thing
1964: In 'N Out
1964: Inner Urge
1966: Mode for Joe

28. Nicole Mitchell:

Vision Quest (2001)
Africa Rising (2002)
Hope, Future, Destiny (2004)
Black Unstoppable (2007)
Xenogenesis (2009)

29. Lee Morgan:

Lee-Way
Take Twelve
The Sidewinder
Search For A New Land
Tom Cat

30. brad mehldau:

The Art of the Trio, Vol. IV — Back At The Vanguard (1999)
Places (2000)
The Art of the Trio, Vol. V — Progression (2001)
Largo (2002)
Anything Goes (2004)

31. Esbjorn Svensson Trio:

Good Morning Susie Soho
Strange Place For Snow
Seven Days of Falling
Viaticum
Tuesday Wonderland

32. James Carter:

1995: The Real Quietstorm
1996: Conversin' with the Elders
1998: In Carterian Fashion
2000: Layin' in the Cut
2000: Chasin' the Gypsy

33. Sonny Sharrock:

1986: Guitar
1987: Seize the Rainbow
1990: Highlife
1991: Faith Moves (duo with Nicky Skopelitis)
1991: Ask the Ages

34. Peter Brötzmann:

For Adolphe Sax
Machine Gun
Nipples
Balls
Brötzmann/Van Hove/Bennink

35. Bobby Hutcherson:

1965 Spiral
1965 Dialogue
1965 Components
1966 Happenings
1966 Stick-Up!

36. Grant Green:
1963 Am I Blue?
1963 Idle Moments
1964 Matador
1964 Solid
1964 Talkin' About!

37. some form of Donald Byrd's:
1969 Kofi Blue Note
1970 Electric Byrd Blue Note
1971 Ethiopian Knights Blue Note
1972 Black Byrd Blue Note
1973 Street Lady Blue Note
1974 Stepping into Tomorrow Blue Note
1975 Places and Spaces Blue Note

38. Keith Jarrett:

Facing You
Fort Yawah
Ruta & Daitya
Solo Concerts
Belonging

39. Cecil Taylor :
3 Phasis
Live in the Black Forest (another real fave)
Silent Tongues (totes OUT and intense solo Cecil from slightly earlier, 74)
Great Paris Concert (dbl alb from the early 60s Cafe Monmartre live stuff w/ Murray and Lyons, now heard to better advantage on Revenant's Nefertiti, the Beautiful One Has Come set)
One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye

40. Leon Thomas

Spirits Known and Unknown (1969)
The Leon Thomas Album (1970)
In Berlin (live) (1971)
Blues and the Soulful Truth (1972)
Full Circle (1973)
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The Thing!!

# The Thing (2000)
# She Knows... (with Joe McPhee) (2001)
# Garage (2004)
# Live at Blå (2004)
# Action Jazz (2006)

Dolphy

1. Out There
2. Caribe
3. Far Cry
4. Live At The Five Spot with Booker Little v. 1
5. Live At The Five Spot v. 2

How about for Horace Silver

1964 Song for My Father
1965 The Cape Verdean Blues
1966 The Jody Grind
1968 Serenade to a Soul Sister
1969 You Gotta Take a Little Love

Jimmy Smith:

1960 Crazy! Baby
1960 Open House
1960 Back at the Chicken Shack
1960 Midnight Special
1960 Prayer Meetin'

Lonnie Liston Smith
1973 Astral Traveling
1974 Cosmic Funk
1974 Expansions
1976 Reflections of a Golden Dream
1977 Live!

James Blood Ulmer:
1978 Tales of Captain Black
1980 Are You Glad to Be in America?
1981 Free Lancing
1982 Black Rock
1984 Odyssey

that's 45, my numbering is off cause the Sonny Rollins at #13 is gone.

Anyone going to do a late period Coltrane?

I didn't even know EST had that many albums. I love Leucocyte. Are those others comparable?

Can anyone throw out a list for Billie or Ella or Sarah?

Henry Threadgill

You Know The Number (1987)
Easily Slip Into Another World (1988)
Rag, Bush and All (1989)
Spirit of Nuff...Nuff (1991)
Too Much Sugar For A Dime (1993)

Shit, man, this thread is BLOWING MY MIND.

Ok, brief notes—I'm totally getting snowed under by release dates and wild discographies. Especially John Coltrane, but also a fair number of the more obscure folks.

"and I haven't heard Prepare Thyself..."

It's fucking amazing. I'd start Kirk's five earlier though, going Rip, Rig and Panic; Funk Underneath; Now Please Don't You Cry Beautiful Edith; Left and Right; and Volunteered Slavery.

As for Coltrane and Mingus, I'd go one later on each of their runs, but whatever.

Don Cherry's first five really depends on which of the live sets you count, and how you count his two-part Mu.

Other folks that I'd want to look at long before I thought The Thing (who are OK) deserved being up there: Abdullah Ibrahim, Ken Vandermark, and William Parker.

Can anyone throw out a list for Billie or Ella or Sarah?

― dad a, Friday, October 2, 2009 6:45 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

they don't seem to really have albums as such, they all bridge the gap between pre and post war. I mean, Billie's discography on allmusic starts in 1950, which is ridiculous, her impact was much earlier but isn't quantifiable in the LP format.

and as far as Kirk goes you are leaving out Here Comes The Whistleman and The Inflated Tear as far as I can tell, remember this is five consecutive albums.

if Prepare Thyself is that good I would consider:

Blacknuss
Bright Moments
Prepare Thyself
Return Of The 5000 Lb Man
The Three Sided Dream

I didn't even know EST had that many albums. I love Leucocyte. Are those others comparable?

― Sundar, Friday, October 2, 2009 6:41 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

I'll take that as a cosign to include them.

I didn't even know EST had that many albums. I love Leucocyte. Are those others comparable?

Yeah, I had to leave the last one off because Good Morning Susie Soho was kind of their breakthrough. They're all good but Seven Days of Falling is a personal favourite of mine.

It feels like there should be more singers on the list, but beyond Leon Thomas I can't really think of any. With some of them, like Billie Holiday, the problem of course is that their major work was done in the pre-LP era. But even with singers who recorded extensively in the LP era, like Sarah Vaughan or Ella Fitzgerald, it seems there's always some obscure albums between their classic ones, so it's hard to say which would be their best five album run.

ok, here's all the Coltrane on Impulse (plus Live at Birdlan on MCA 'cause it's grate!):

Africa/Brass (1961)
Live at the Village Vanguard (1961)
Coltrane (1962)
Ballads (1962)
Duke Ellington & John Coltrane (1962)
John Coltrane and Johnny Hartman (1963)
Dear Old Stockholm (1963)
Live at Birdland (1964)
Crescent (1964)
A Love Supreme (1965)
The John Coltrane Quartet Plays (1965)
Kulu Se Mama (1965)
Ascension (1965)
New Thing at Newport (1965)
Live in Seattle (1965)
Om (1965)
Meditations (1965)
Live at the Village Vanguard Again! (1966)
Expression (1967)

i'm gonna nominate this late-period run, just because:

New Thing at Newport (1965)
Live in Seattle (1965)
Om (1965)
Meditations (1965)
Live at the Village Vanguard Again! (1966)

I thought everybody hated Om

ha, yea om is really interesting but fuck if that's what i put on when i want to hear coltrane

well, there's just no way around it really.

I'd go for this one...

Crescent (1964)
A Love Supreme (1965)
The John Coltrane Quartet Plays (1965)
Kulu Se Mama (1965)
Ascension (1965)

three, arguably four of which are favourites. (ascension, love, kulu...possibly crescent).

that list is incomplete though...where's interstellar space? comsmic music? sun ship?

those were all posthumous releases.

well, yeah... but they don't count?

i dunno. point is, they weren't released in any kind of chronological order as far as i can tell. so how do you consider them as part of an established run of releases?

i need to get those latter day coltrane records. haven't heard any of the post-classic quartet stuff except for interstellar space.

I'd like to nominate the Miles Davis run that was his best after all:
Milestones
Porgy And Bess
Kind Of Blue
Sketches Of Spain
Someday My Prince Will Come

I like Coltrane - Om.

"and as far as Kirk goes you are leaving out Here Comes The Whistleman and The Inflated Tear as far as I can tell, remember this is five consecutive albums."

I missed The Inflated Tear; I thought Whistleman was recorded/released before Rip, Rig and Panic.

And I really like Om too.

Was Impressions posthumous?

alternate sun ra selections:

(early)
Angels & Demons at Play
Super Sonic Jazz
Sound of Joy
Jazz in Silhouette
Sound Sun Pleasure!!

(slightly later)
Fate in a Pleasant Mood
Holiday for Soul Dance
The Futuristic Sounds of Sun Ra
Bad & Beautiful
Art Forms for Dimensions Tomorrow

(much later)
The Solar-Myth Approach
The Solar-Myth Approach, v.2
Nuits de la Fondation Maeght, v.1
Nuits de la Fondation Maeght, v.2
It's After the End of the World

Andrew Hill

10/1965 AH "Compulsion"
4/1965 Bobby Hutcherson - "Dialogue"
6/1964 Andrew Hill "Andrew!"
3/64 Andrew Hill "Point of Departure"
1/1964 Andrew Hill "Judgement"

i need to find a David Murray 5....

Was Impressions posthumous?

nope. 1963 release originally.

xp

good luck David Murray; his discography is a bitch to sort out.

damn, i must have accidentally deleted Impressions from the above list. oh well.

xp to self

Well, we got to 50 after all, I cut the original Miles #24 and replaced it with Geir's nomination in spite of his absurd rationales since it is a nice run including some "classics".

If anybody wants to change anything now, let me know. I'll make a poll this weekend that's open for another week.

1. Alice Coltrane:

A Monastic Trio
Huntington Ashram Monastery
Journey In Satchidananda
Ptah, The El Daoud
Universal Consciousness

2. an early Bill Evans run:

Portrait in Jazz,
Explorations,
Sunday at the Village Vanguard,
Waltz for Debby,
How My Heart Sings!

3. Albert Ayler –

Spiritual Unity,
New York Eye and Ear Control,
Bells,
Spirits Rejoice,
In Greenwich Village

4. for Miles:

E.S.P (1965)
Miles Smiles (1966)
Sorcerer (1967)
Nefertiti (1967)
Miles in the Sky (1968)

5. for Coltrane, maybe:

John Coltrane and Johnny Hartman (1963)
Impressions (1963)
Live at Birdland (1964)
Crescent (1964)
A Love Supreme (1965)

6. Cookin' with the Miles Davis Quintet (1956)
Relaxin' with the Miles Davis Quintet (1956)
Workin' with the Miles Davis Quintet (1956)
Steamin' with the Miles Davis Quintet (1956)
'Round About Midnight (1955-1956)

7. Dave Holland Quintet/Big Band:

2000 - Prime Directive - ECM
2001 - Not for Nothin' - ECM
2002 - What Goes Around - ECM
2003 - Extended Play: Live at Birdland - ECM
2005 - Overtime - Dare2

8. Ornette Coleman's 1st run:

Something Else!!!! (1958)
Tomorrow Is the Question! (1959)
The Shape of Jazz to Come (1959)
Change of the Century (1959)
This Is Our Music (1960)

9. Herbie Hancock:

Mwandishi (1971)
Crossings (1972)
Sextant (1973)
Head Hunters (1973)
Thrust (1974)

10. Sonny Rollins:

Moving Out (1954)
Work Time (1955)
Saxophone Colossus (1956)
Sonny Rollins Plus Four (1956; the "four" are the other members of the Clifford Brown/Max Roach Quintet)
Tenor Madness (1956)

11. hard to pick a run w/Monk, and i could easily pick 10 more by the man:

Brilliant Corners
Thelonious Himself
Monk with Coltrane
Blakey's Jazz Messengers w/Thelonious Monk
Monk's Music

12. Mingus

Town Hall Concert (1962, Blue Note)
Oh Yeah (1962, Atlantic)
Tijuana Moods (1962, RCA)
The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady (1963, Impulse!)
Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus (1963, Impulse!)

13. Sun Ra:

# 1965 – The Heliocentric Worlds of Sun Ra, Volume One by Sun Ra
# 1965 – The Magic City by Sun Ra and his Solar Arkestra
# 1965 – The Heliocentric Worlds of Sun Ra, Volume Two by Sun Ra
# 1966 – Nothing Is by Sun Ra (live)
# 1966 – Strange Strings

14. Wayne Shorter:

Juju,
Speak No Evil,
The All Seeing Eye,
Adam's Apple,
Schizophrenia (all for Blue Note)

15. Archie Shepp -

Fire Music,
On This Night,
Three for a Quarter,
One for a Dime,
Mama Too Tight,
The Magic Of Juju.

16. Duke Ellington: The 61-62 collabs:

* Louis Armstrong & Duke Ellington (Roulette).
* ”Together for the First Time! The Count Meets the Duke”
* Duke Ellington & John Coltrane
* Duke Ellington Meets Coleman Hawkins
* Money Jungle

17. Duke Ellington: the late thematic works:

* The Far East Suite
* Latin American Suite (Fantasy)
* New Orleans Suite (Atlantic)
* The Afro-Eurasian Eclipse (Fantasy)
* Toga Brava Suite (Storyville)

18. Pharoah Sanders -

Izipho Zam,
Karma,
Jewels Of Thought,
Deaf Dumb Blind (Summun Bukmun Umyun),Thembi

19.
# In a Silent Way (1969)
# Bitches Brew (1970)
# A Tribute to Jack Johnson (1970)
# On the Corner (1972)
# Big Fun (1974 - previously unissued recordings from 1969-1972)

20.
Hank Mobley:
Soul Station 1960
Roll Call 1960
Workout 1961
Another Workout 1961
No Room for Squares 1963

21. Coltrane on Atlantic:
# Giant Steps
# Coltrane Jazz
# My Favorite Things
# Coltrane Plays the Blues
# Olé Coltrane

22. Braxton
New York, Fall 1974
Five Pieces 1975
The Montreux/Berlin Concerts
Creative Orchestra Music 1976
For Four Orchestras

23. Mingus run:

Pithecanthropus Erectus (1956, Atlantic)
The Clown (1957, Atlantic)
Blues & Roots (1959, Atlantic)
Mingus Ah Um (1959, Columbia)
Mingus Dynasty (1959, Columbia)

24. Miles substitute nomination:

Milestones
Porgy And Bess
Kind Of Blue
Sketches Of Spain
Someday My Prince Will Come

25. booker ervin:

The Freedom Book (1963)
The Song Book (1964)
The Blues Book (1964)
The Space Book (1964)
Setting The Pace (1965)

26. joe henderson:

1963: Page One
1963: Our Thing
1964: In 'N Out
1964: Inner Urge
1966: Mode for Joe

27. Nicole Mitchell:

Vision Quest (2001)
Africa Rising (2002)
Hope, Future, Destiny (2004)
Black Unstoppable (2007)
Xenogenesis (2009)

28. Lee Morgan:

Lee-Way
Take Twelve
The Sidewinder
Search For A New Land
Tom Cat

29. brad mehldau:

The Art of the Trio, Vol. IV — Back At The Vanguard (1999)
Places (2000)
The Art of the Trio, Vol. V — Progression (2001)
Largo (2002)
Anything Goes (2004)

30. Esbjorn Svensson Trio:

Good Morning Susie Soho
Strange Place For Snow
Seven Days of Falling
Viaticum
Tuesday Wonderland

31. James Carter:

1995: The Real Quietstorm
1996: Conversin' with the Elders
1998: In Carterian Fashion
2000: Layin' in the Cut
2000: Chasin' the Gypsy

32. Sonny Sharrock:

1986: Guitar
1987: Seize the Rainbow
1990: Highlife
1991: Faith Moves (duo with Nicky Skopelitis)
1991: Ask the Ages

33. Peter Brötzmann:

For Adolphe Sax
Machine Gun
Nipples
Balls
Brötzmann/Van Hove/Bennink

34. Bobby Hutcherson:

1965 Spiral
1965 Dialogue
1965 Components
1966 Happenings
1966 Stick-Up!

35. Grant Green:

1963 Am I Blue?
1963 Idle Moments
1964 Matador
1964 Solid
1964 Talkin' About!

36. some form of Donald Byrd's:

1969 Kofi Blue Note
1970 Electric Byrd Blue Note
1971 Ethiopian Knights Blue Note
1972 Black Byrd Blue Note
1973 Street Lady Blue Note
1974 Stepping into Tomorrow Blue Note
1975 Places and Spaces Blue Note

37. Keith Jarrett:

Facing You
Fort Yawah
Ruta & Daitya
Solo Concerts
Belonging

38. Cecil Taylor :

3 Phasis
Live in the Black Forest (another real fave)
Silent Tongues (totes OUT and intense solo Cecil from slightly earlier, 74)
Great Paris Concert (dbl alb from the early 60s Cafe Monmartre live stuff w/ Murray and Lyons, now heard to better advantage on Revenant's Nefertiti, the Beautiful One Has Come set)
One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye

39. Leon Thomas

Spirits Known and Unknown (1969)
The Leon Thomas Album (1970)
In Berlin (live) (1971)
Blues and the Soulful Truth (1972)
Full Circle (1973)

40. The Thing!!

# The Thing (2000)
# She Knows... (with Joe McPhee) (2001)
# Garage (2004)
# Live at Blå (2004)
# Action Jazz (2006)

41. Dolphy

1. Out There
2. Caribe
3. Far Cry
4. Live At The Five Spot with Booker Little v. 1
5. Live At The Five Spot v. 2

42. How about for Horace Silver

1964 Song for My Father
1965 The Cape Verdean Blues
1966 The Jody Grind
1968 Serenade to a Soul Sister
1969 You Gotta Take a Little Love

43. Jimmy Smith:

1960 Crazy! Baby
1960 Open House
1960 Back at the Chicken Shack
1960 Midnight Special
1960 Prayer Meetin'

44. Lonnie Liston Smith
1973 Astral Traveling
1974 Cosmic Funk
1974 Expansions
1976 Reflections of a Golden Dream
1977 Live!

45. James Blood Ulmer:
1978 Tales of Captain Black
1980 Are You Glad to Be in America?
1981 Free Lancing
1982 Black Rock
1984 Odyssey

46. Henry Threadgill

You Know The Number (1987)
Easily Slip Into Another World (1988)
Rag, Bush and All (1989)
Spirit of Nuff...Nuff (1991)
Too Much Sugar For A Dime (1993)

47. Rahsaan Roland Kirk:

Blacknuss
Bright Moments
Prepare Thyself
Return Of The 5000 Lb Man
The Three Sided Dream

48. another Coltrane:

Crescent (1964)
A Love Supreme (1965)
The John Coltrane Quartet Plays (1965)
Kulu Se Mama (1965)
Ascension (1965)

49. this later Sun Ra:

The Solar-Myth Approach
The Solar-Myth Approach, v.2
Nuits de la Fondation Maeght, v.1
Nuits de la Fondation Maeght, v.2
It's After the End of the World

50. Andrew Hill

10/1965 AH "Compulsion"
4/1965 Bobby Hutcherson - "Dialogue"
6/1964 Andrew Hill "Andrew!"
3/64 Andrew Hill "Point of Departure"
1/1964 Andrew Hill "Judgement"

multiple runs:

Miles 4
Coltrane 4
Mungus 2
Ellington 2
Sun Ra 2

oops Mingus

joe henderson, miles, hank mobley, coltrane, monk, mingus, alice coltrane and bill evans are the only 5 album runs I've heard here in their entirety! and here I thought I was a jazz d-bag ... :(

I hope people besides me have heard that Threadgill run. Some of my favorite music ever.

36. some form of Donald Byrd's:

1969 Kofi Blue Note
1970 Electric Byrd Blue Note
1971 Ethiopian Knights Blue Note
1972 Black Byrd Blue Note
1973 Street Lady Blue Note
1974 Stepping into Tomorrow Blue Note
1975 Places and Spaces Blue Note

This still needs to be cut down to 5 albums.

yes, any preference Hermann? I think that was your nomination.

After thinking about this a bit, I decided to run this as a mail in poll since there will probably be two dozen votes at the most and I don't like the way the current poll system only allows one choice. so send your top THREE picks, in order of preference, and I will assign point values (5 for first, 3 for second, 1 for third). this way there will be a wider range.

send ballots to my ILX email, that should work.

you could cut Kofi -- it's electric, but not as R&B/disco as the others are. And I don't even think it was released until the 90s?

i would say go with the 1st 5. if kofi want released til the 90s then
1970 Electric Byrd Blue Note
1971 Ethiopian Knights Blue Note
1972 Black Byrd Blue Note
1973 Street Lady Blue Note
1974 Stepping into Tomorrow Blue Note

will be fine.

OK cool, voters take note!

remember, your top three picks in order sent to my ILX webmail

are you starting a new thread with nominations to choose from so that everyone can see voting has started?
and is webmail working now?

I think webmail is working, send me one and I'll send you one to test. otherwise I can use another email. I'll start a new thread once we get that worked out.

i dont use the email i signed up with

it says i sent you a webmail

yep, got it

sent.

This will give me some ideas for a few holes to fill in. I'm halfway through ripping my jazz section to flac, then I'll be all done! I realized I sold some old Armstrong and Ellington collections to get the new remasters. Problem is they aren't new anymore, and some are out of print, grr. Is it just me or does there seem to be a lack of jazz reissues for the earlier 20s-40s eras. I guess this is outside the scope of this thread though.

new thread for discussion and voting:

"The Best Five Album Runs BEFORE TIME BEGAN" (Jazz poll voting thread VOTE HERE)