is "tv on the radio" the only current "rock" act doing "new" things while still maintaining recognizable "songs" and "singing"?

"gay"

""new""

This is going to turn into Radiohead vs TVOTR

im serious abt this question btw - im going to take a run and i want some good answers by the time i get back

radiohead is NOT allowed here

srsly, what do they do that's new (or "new")?

animal collective does this

the Beatles rock band does this

I like TVOTR and everything but "new" is a red herring as a barometer of quality.

also they sound like Peter Gabriel.

what peter gabriel do you recommend

all of it...?

srsly, what do they do that's new singing (or "new singing")?

"all hour cymbals" he means

just start w/ first album and go from there?

(I'm 100% serious about the Peter Gabriel comparison btw - lots of similar weirdo dystopian lyrics and vocal hooks matched against chugging synths with rhythms lifted from r&b, tribal rhythms, funk, etc.)

i have written some recognizable "songs" with "singing" that are "rock" and "new"; i sing them in the bathtub

and NO YOU CAN'T HEAR THEM, THEY ARE PRIVATE

the first four, I guess. can't go wrong with this one

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/57/Pg32.jpg/200px-Pg32.jpg

x-post

"funk"

only jonathan demme knows the answer to this

http://www.bath-holiday-cottage.co.uk/Images/BATH%20MUSIC%20FESTIVAL.jpg

damn peter gabriel rote some jams its true

he also wore a flowerhead

who hasnt in this day and age? who hasnt?

thom yorke

there are plenty of pater gabriel threads

"threads"

if thom yorke were a flower he'd be a nosegay

"peter" gabriel

otm

I saw thom yorke dance a few weeks ago

peter "gay"briel

tv on the gaydio

gaydiohead

i love you but i've chosen gayness

thom yorke -> york peppermint patty -> peppermint patty from the peanuts cartoon -> lesbian -> gay

Liars? Then again, Drum's Not Dead isn't really a rock record.

kshighgay1

yorke is gay bacon? xp

no, its a "rock" record dummy

gay vampire gay weekend

Good thread. I'm out.

of the closet

kshighway1=hershey highway

ksguyway1

kshighheybum

pretty fly for a kshighway1

kshighway1 -> "life is a highway" -> tom cochrane -> cock -> gay

6 degrees of fageration

i feel like when things are put this way i'm hesitant about anything i suggest cause they can easily just be "ok not rock" or "ok now new." off the top of my head i would say white denim, no age, boris, future of the left, dd/mm/yyyy, broken social scene, women and fucked up are all doing really innovative things while still staying somewhat within the rock framework. maybe some of these aren't recognisably rock envelope-pushing enough but imo they're all just as much so as tvotr.

. . .

NO

i "got" that you're so far gone you don't even understand jokes anymore and think hipster runoff is amazing

jesus you people are just too easy sometimes

life is a highway

y'know, I have never understood this song. okay, so life is a highway, and he's gonna ride it all night long - so, he's gonna live all night? Is he gonna die in the morning or something? I MUST KNOW

he's riding in the backseat at night so he can get some sleep, and then in the morning he's gonna take his turn driving again

animal collective does this

― nice email (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, October 23, 2009 2:55 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

see imo animal collector purposely go right to the edge of having real "songs" and "singing" w/out making it happen - if they were to fully embrace "singing & songs" and become the next "grateful dead" id fully support them 100%

imcho

i feel like when things are put this way i'm hesitant about anything i suggest cause they can easily just be "ok not rock" or "ok now new." off the top of my head i would say white denim, no age, boris, future of the left, dd/mm/yyyy, broken social scene, women and fucked up are all doing really innovative things while still staying somewhat within the rock framework. maybe some of these aren't recognisably rock envelope-pushing enough but imo they're all just as much so as tvotr.

― samosa gibreel, Friday, October 23, 2009 3:19 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

see to my mind these groups fall into three categories

not songs and or singing/rock
no age

not new
broken social scene, boris

never heard them
white denim, future of the left, dd/mm/yyyy, women and fucked up

im serious abt this question btw - im going to take a run and i want some good answers by the time i get back

― ice cr?m, Friday, 23 October 2009

"Maybe" you mean "serious."

was an alright run - i sprinted up the hill - gotta stretch and shower now

could someone tell me what no age is doing that's perceived as new?

still dont understand what tv on the radio is doing thats new

ice craem is a troll

could someone tell me what no age is doing that's perceived as new?

― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Friday, October 23, 2009 8:38 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

well they do like old stiltbreeze and guided by voices but they are doing in a new, way worse way

troll age

tv on the radio's bandname is new

the idea of television being broadcast on the radio is new

i feel like the only place where people listen to tv on the radio is in the shower - so prob thats where they got the idea from

tv on the radio in the shower

"songs"

you know like on one of those waterproof units listing to regis and kelly

tv on the radio in the shower on regis and kelly

why are we even talking about TVOTR SO NOT RELEVANT RITE NOW

"RELEVANT"

iyo what is "relevant" rite now cuts

healthy eating

"RITE"

TEH "XX" LOL

I keep seeing the word ducktails typed out so maybe that is relevant

honestly tho wild beasts is many an honest answer to this q?

maybe not many

btw shakey, I bought the first four peter gabriel albums on my lunch break

cutty would you like to start a band with me called Sardines

start with III and security re: pedro gabrielle

basically bought the entire used peter gabriel section

k will do

cool will check out wild beasts - which release do u recommend

"two dancers" the new one

or watch live show i posted on the wild beasts thread

check out brokeNCYDE and attack attack

<3 attack attack - tbh that shit does fit the description its just not good as "music"

"good"

"ice cr?m"

I think I posted about this before but every time I see attack attack I think about this one bollywood movie I saw as a kid where the bad guy was named Zatack, and in one scene he walked into a bar, put music in the jukebox, which played a disco version of the batman theme, he ripped his belt off, shouted "Zatack Attack!" and then started beating the shit out of everyone in the bar

put money in the jukebox

http://www.myteespot.com/images/thumbs/DSCF3251.jpg

zack morris and black label society

wtf.. why do "new" things matter? just write some songs that don't suck and produce them so that they sound their best.

It's a lot easier to be snobby about things being new because you can get hip points by going "This band is just ripping off [obscure band name I am so cool for knowing]." Not that I don't indulge in this particular sin occasionally.

are they still doing new things? i thought they stopped with that last album.

not songs and or singing/rock
no age

not new
broken social scene, boris

never heard them
white denim, future of the left, dd/mm/yyyy, women and fucked up

k in that case disregard fucked up perhaps, because although the lastest album sort of transcends hardcore there still isn't much singing on it. i'd say of all those just check out white denim. the thing about tvotr is they've got all those cool soundscapes that sound really "wow never heard this before" which is maybe sort of a new thing in some ways. white denim do that a bit, but mostly their charm is making these mutated, crooked reformations of rock songs.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

wtf.. why do "new" things matter?

Things that sound original (and good) are much more exciting to me. Definitely.

in rock and roll the majority of what i like is derivative and unoriginal. somehow i'm more likely to listen to a band that takes an older preexisting style and adapts it to modern standards of songwriting or experimentation than one that sounds modern and recognizably original because they use new technologies or avoid genre association. but i think the way tvotr are most obviously original is much less interesting, a much more surface-level originality, than just the fact that they have a unique sense of melody and dude has a weird way of singing.

I don't think I can participate in this poll because the question is too hard for me to understand, but I don't want to feel left out because I now like TV On The Radio since they made an enjoyable album with catchy, propulsive songs. Also, they look great. If I feel like hurting myself I promised my counselor I would listen to hard music such as Henry Cow or Morton Feldman instead. BTW, xp the Animal Collective reference, I am one of those people who is completely baffled by the attention that Animal Collective album received, I find it deeply unpleasant and my fantasy is that they would be locked in a room with Tori Amos and Joan Wasser until they make an album that sounds like Rumours.

Last option, obv. :)

radiohead is NOT allowed here

TVOTR's first album was called OK Calculator so you're screwed here. If you have a problem, take it up with the band.

listen theres a surplus of threads for discussing that horrible band of cowards - just not here ok

I like Cave In 5xmore than Radiohead and 50xmore than TVOTR.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

LOL

hahahaha

rip advanced chord changes

the last YYYs album sounded like it was doing more 'new' things while still writing 'songs' and good melodies etc etc more than TVTOR are nowadays.

new things for them doesn't necessarily mean new things

TVOTR's first album was called OK Calculator so you're screwed here.

I thought it was called OK Abacus. Maybe that was the demo.

yuk yuk

TV ON THE RADIO v RADIOHEAD