Vote for the best album from NME's Top 50 of the last decade (as an afterthought, once we have all learned some valuable lessons about sexual and racial bias in modern music media)

QotSA, Jay-Z or Dizzee. (Secretly I will vote for Sufjan tho.)

I own far too many of these on CD (22). And most of the rest of them got illegally downloaded and now sit forgotten on some deep dark corner of a hard drive somewhere.

Would probably rate Echoes as my favourite, have listened to Turn On The Bright Lights the most and would never have included number 39 on any list ever, aside from a list of stuff to be burnt in a fire.

poor poor poor CSS!!!

Not white enough, obv.

I have owned 17 of these at some time or another (mostly within the last 10 years). Currently own the White Stripes records, Speakerboxx/TLB and Arular. So it's probably one of those, right?

Sorry, I meant "Not 'guitar-led rock act enough', obv".

Could have easily voted for Blueprint/Lovebelow-speakerhboxx/arular/turn on the bright lights/since i left you/kid a/original pirate material, but went for Silent Alarm.

I quite like the majority of those albums, wouldn't place them as the top 50 of a decade, but like them nonetheless.

Tough choice between The Strokes, The Libertines, Primal Scream, The Arctic Monkeys, The Yeah Yeah Yeahs, PJ Harvey, Arcade Fire, Interpol, Radiohead, At The Drive-In, The Shins, The White Stripes, Blur, The Coral, Klaxons, The Rapture, Super Furry Animals, Elbow, Grandaddy, Babyshambles, Spirtualized, Bloc Party, Ryan Adams, Wild Beasts, Vampire Weekend, Wilco, Avalanches, The Delgados, Walkmen and Muse.

two-horse race for me - either QOTSA or ATDI.

they really soured on silent alarm huh

Oh yeah, plus The Knife. Haven't listened to QOTSA in forever, for no good reason, so maybe that one too.

I guess it is pretty interesting how many of these are from like 2000-2002 - I have no idea how this list was voted on, or who by (I didn't know it existed until a few hours ago) but one thing you can't say is that it's been tailored to the readers' tastes when a lot of this stuff will've come out before a lot of them started listening to music

At the Drive-In or Jay. Not exactly two albums I would let eye each other from across the ring because one is built perfect and the other is made of barbed wire.

13. The Shins - Wincing The Night Away

this is the most baffling one to me? of all the american indie rock albums for them to latch on to... this one sold a bunch of copies but it wasn't really influential or noteworthy musically and i doubt anyone is listening to it anymore - and they don't even rate 'chutes too narrow' - just weird

also not sure how you can think 'is this it?' is the best album of the decade but think that elbow or babyshambles or crystal castles is better than 'room on fire'...

there's like 10 decent-to-really-pretty-good records here o_O

anyway you all know who i'm voting for.

winehouse?

2. The Libertines - Up The Bracket
4. Arctic Monkeys - Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not

nme lol

xtrmntr

I still love this album, gets my vote.

TWO Arcade Fire albums, huh.

Interpol

Avalanches - Since I Left You

Haha, this didn't even get in their 2001 list.

they really soured on silent alarm huh

Not as much as they soured on Oracular Spectacular, seemingly. Actually, no Flaming Lips, Animal Collective or MGMT is a good thing. And presumably someone's PR forced them at gunpoint to put the Crystal Castles record in there.

A distinct lack of Daft Punk.

The Guardian piece on this says:

NME editor Krissi Murison said: "This is the definitive word on the greatest albums of the noughties - as voted for by everyone who helped make music brilliant this decade."

it is ok, ilx's army of one-eyed devout electroheads will just have to vote knife or avalanches xp

dunno that it's "the best" but the album i'd choose to listen to right now from this list is the elbow one

in every nme list ever - 80% indieish rock, 10% indieish dance, 10% tokenism

^that was my 2nd-choice, along with wilco and wild beasts...what people don't seem to realise about elbow is that UNTIL the album that won them the mercury they were really rather superb

xp

surprised to see i own 21 of these.. and probably haven't listened to 80% of those since the year after they came out

And presumably someone's PR forced them at gunpoint to put the Crystal Castles record in there.

Sure you could say the same about Wild Beasts.

except that's a really good record, possibly the best of 2009

definitely the best within NME's limited ken

only 1 2009 album? does that mean Wild Beasts will be the NME album of 2009 and not Animal Collective?

Primal Scream - xtrmntr (is the earliest album of the decade on the list)

It came out in January 2000, it's one of the earliest albums of the decade full stop.

The one I rate the highest on here is Boy In Da Corner but there are a fair few I like, although the one I have the most hankering to listen to right now is the Johnny Cash record.

So basically this is a list of albums voted for by the people who made these albums?

I voted BIDC just now.

I was a hueg and loud advocate of Xtrmntr and its ~~groundbreaking rock'n'roll insurrection~~ at the time so kinda scared to listen to it now :/

it's aged alright imo

xtrmntr sounds a bit tame atm, and yeah I absolutely *adored* it a few years ago

shoot speed kill light and the first two tracks still bring it

3 xp The winning album was chosen by a panel of more than 100 music industry figures, including bands such as Arctic Monkeys, Radiohead, Glasvegas, Paul Weller, Robert Smith, Vampire Weekend, as well as producers, festival bookers, label owners and NME staff past and present. - I'm gonna take a crazy guess that they were given a longlist to pick from rather than just anything they fancied

'when the kingdom comes' from the accelerator single is my fave primals from that period xpost

haha! in 2005, after i first got xtrmntr, accelerator was probably one of my 3 favourite songs...

I'm gonna take a crazy guess that they were given a longlist to pick from rather than just anything they fancied

Yeah the temptation to pick Shipwreck Radio and the Paris Hilton joint wd be undeniable if you were just allowed a free vote.

a longlist of about sixty. I was v disappointed when I found out that was how these things worked

What a croc of ****

Who in the world compiled this list of mostly dog poo?

I am suprised so many fantatic artists and bands have been left off such as the Killers, Kings of Leon. Thank god Bloc Party and Muse made it onto the list at least the add a little bit of credibility.

Hmmm dream on NME.

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Is that from the murky pond of the NME's "Speak Your Brains" section? Cos I wouldn't be poking around in there.

nah it's from the sky article linked in the opening post

i am pretty surprised that like, uh, the delgados & brendan benson made it in over every KOL album

been re-diggin lapalco lately tbh

I own 39 of these. I'd rep hard for maybe 10. Probably vote XTRMNTR.

weren't they massive proponents of the first two KOL records? were they lukewarm on the super popular new one i guess?

I was gonna say that that Delgados album is pretty nice tho, whereas fuck a KoL. Although of course the reason the NME have lost interest is cos they're all over local radio nowadays i.e. popular.

or more like i.e. NME target audience's parents did KoL nowadays so they no longer serve a purpose

did = dig

well now you say it mister

possibly both words worked there

this sex is in Zafira

I have eleven or twelve of these. Went with 'Back to Black', by a distance.

Proposed Poll: Least Sexy Song with Sex in the Title

Kinda think we just figured out the result but go for it

Sometimes you need to do the research to validate your original theory.

No Franz Ferdinand?

xp and sometimes there's a

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c6/Sex_bomb_(Tom_Jones).jpg

Lack of Franz has genuinely surprised me.

Franz Ferdinand have sort of disappeared, it's very odd.

Law of diminishing returns for them, wasn't it, at least in terms of media interest.

it is ok, ilx's army of one-eyed devout electroheads will just have to vote knife or avalanches

haha, bingo - those are my top 2, with Streets/OPM in 3rd. The Knife edges it though, but I'd prefer 'Deep Cuts'.

I refuse to believe for one tiny second that a coalition of bands, producers and record company dudes all got together and voted 'Relationship of Command' the 11th best album of the decade.

that's far from the most unlikely result here...

missed that - so there is actually something to vote for.

I own 28 of these on CD.
Shortlist: LCD, Sufjan, Kid A, Johnny Cash, Knife.
Hmm. What to do.

For what its worth, Relationship of Command is one of the few rock albums this decade I've listened to more than once.

^^^great listener

(hang on, what do you mean by 'rock'?)

who the hell is Brendan Benson?

Haha. Non-dance or pop I guess. Been completely bored with bands with guitars in the since the early part of this decade, and that's one of the few albums in that format I went through a period of listening to.

xp Some feral mountain man that Jack White brought back to civilisation and taught to play instruments for the Raconteurs.

also, lol

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/4163/nme.gif

ha just came in here to berate you all for giving 75 posts worth of thought to this (who cares? who cares?) but that picture has made it all worthwhile

its an indie paper tho. and indie is 90% white guys. the nme dont care about race as much as they do about music. and they only like indie music (except for about 5 albums on there). so i dunno why this is surprising. what did you want to see in there? movado?

anyway, this is england. and this is STANDARD.

I was hoping for more interesting indie, is what.

75 posts worth of thought to this

This thread so far is the Soviet invasion of Poland in Sept 1939 to the WWII it will eventually become - let me remind you that Geir will be able to post again in a fortnight or something

^^^fair point.

tho of the indie on there, i really like about 15 of those albums.

fair point to sik mouthy i meant

Anyone who was seriously hoping for more than what's actually there has clearly been deluding themselves for the best part of 10 years.

i don't care what's on the list, i question why you're all on this thread instead of talking about [good music] or [good music] or etc etc

why are you?

lex, cos everyone loves a list

and old nme readers love to take digs at the nme

even if they dont want to listen to more non white/non male/non indie artists themselves

Lex the difference is that none of us are taking this particularly seriously, especially compared to, say, your hundred or so posts across the two Pitchfork poll threads.

dont see the point in berating the nme or pfk for not having i dunno (whatever lex wants to see) really (though american sites/mags are usually a bit better at being more inclusive than uk ones).

if rwd or some mag (?) that did cover that stuff didnt then that would be worse (and yes i know rwd is all mainstream now anyway)

if the NME had some viable weekly opposition like in the 1980s (Sounds and Melody Maker) then different perspectives on the decade would emerge.

the current top 100 00s albums from my friends (public) & favourites (private) network on rateyourmusic.com. (as archived from rateyourmusic.com to my evernote account today)

http://www.evernote.com/pub/djmartian/00s

1 Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Lift Yr. Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven! (2000)

2 Neurosis - A Sun That Never Sets (2001)

3 Radiohead - Kid A (2000)

4 Ulver - Perdition City (2000)

5 Neurosis - The Eye of Every Storm (2004)

6 Bohren & der Club of Gore - Black Earth (2002)

7 Unwound - Leaves Turn Inside You (2001)

8 Isis - Panopticon (2004)

9 maudlin of the Well - Leaving Your Body Map (2001)

10 Kayo Dot - Choirs of the Eye (2003)

11 Fennesz - Endless Summer (2001)

12 Amon Tobin - Supermodified (2000)

13 maudlin of the Well - Bath (2001)

14 Murcof - Martes (2002)

15 Opeth - Blackwater Park (2001)

16 Isis - Oceanic (2002)

17 Gas - Pop (2000)

18 The Microphones - The Glow Pt. 2 (2001)

19 Ephel Duath - The Painter's Palette (2003)

20 Tenhi - Maaäet (2006)

21 Yo La Tengo - And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-Out (2000)

22 The Notwist - Neon Golden (2002)

23 Solefald - In Harmonia Universali (2003)

24 Coil - The Ape of Naples (2005)

25 Interpol - Turn On the Bright Lights (2002)

26 Boards of Canada - Geogaddi (2002)

27 Porcupine Tree - Lightbulb Sun (2000)

28 Agalloch - The Mantle (2002)

29 Arcturus - The Sham Mirrors (2002)

30 16 Horsepower - Secret South (2000)

31 Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - Of Natural History (2004)

32 Weakling - Dead as Dreams (2000)

33 Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein (2001)

34 Arcade Fire - Funeral (2004)

35 Ulver - Blood Inside (2005)

36 Porcupine Tree - In Absentia (2002)

37 Converge - Jane Doe (2001)

38 Supersilent - 5 (2001)

39 Supersilent - 6 (2003)

40 Jesu - Jesu (2005)

41 Tool - Lateralus (2001)

42 Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot (2002)

43 Radiohead - Amnesiac (2001)

44 dredg - El Cielo (2002)

45 Disillusion - Back to Times of Splendor (2004)

46 Björk - Vespertine (2001)

47 Joanna Newsom - The Milk-Eyed Mender (2004)

48 Primal Scream - Xtrmntr (2000)

49 Birchville Cat Motel - Beautiful Speck Triumph (2004)

50 Agalloch - Ashes Against the Grain (2006)

51 Kevin Drumm - Sheer Hellish Miasma (2002)

52 Drudkh - Blood in Our Wells (2006)

53 The Gathering - Souvenirs (2003)

54 Four Tet - Rounds (2003)

55 Opeth - Damnation (2003)

56 A Silver Mt. Zion - He Has Left Us Alone but Shafts of Light Sometimes Grace the Corner of Our Rooms... (2000)

57 At the Drive-In - Relationship of Command (2000)

58 Drudkh - Autumn Aurora (2004)

59 Deaf Center - Pale Ravine (2005)

60 Dälek - Absence (2005)

61 Yndi Halda - Enjoy Eternal Bliss (2006)

62 Ulrich Schnauss - A Strangely Isolated Place (2003)

63 Port-Royal - Flares (2005)

64 Subterranean Masquerade - Suspended Animation Dreams (2005)

65 Tenhi - Väre (2002)

66 The Postman Syndrome - Terraforming (2002)

67 Moonsorrow - Verisäkeet (2005)

68 Panda Bear - Person Pitch (2007)

69 Boris - Boris at Last -Feedbacker- (2003)

70 Tom Waits - Orphans: Brawlers, Bawlers & Bastards (2006)

71 Pain of Salvation - The Perfect Element I (2000)

72 Opeth - Deliverance (2002)

73 Raison d'être - The Empty Hollow Unfolds (2000)

74 Venetian Snares - Rossz csillag alatt született (2005)

75 Ulver - Svidd neger (2003)

76 Sufjan Stevens - Illinois (2005)

77 Green Carnation - Light of Day, Day of Darkness (2001)

78 Sigur Rós - ( ) (2002)

79 Ephel Duath - Pain Necessary to Know (2005)

80 The For Carnation - The For Carnation (2000)

81 Pain of Salvation - Remedy Lane (2002)

82 Stars of the Lid - The Tired Sounds Of (2001)

83 Kamelot - The Black Halo (2005)

84 Flotation Toy Warning - Bluffer's Guide to the Flight Deck (2004)

85 Broadcast - HaHa Sound (2003)

86 múm - Finally We Are No One (2002)

87 Ulrich Schnauss - Far Away Trains Passing By (2001)

88 Enslaved - Below the Lights (2003)

89 Bohren & der Club of Gore - Sunset Mission (2000)

90 Katatonia - Last Fair Deal Gone Down (2001)

91 Low - Things We Lost in the Fire (2001)

92 Broken Social Scene - You Forgot It in People (2002)

93 Natural Snow Buildings - The Dance of the Moon and the Sun (2006)

94 Murcof - Remembranza (2005)

95 Burial - Untrue (2007)

96 Stars of the Lid - And Their Refinement of the Decline (2007)

97 Johnny Cash - American IV: The Man Comes Around (2002)

98 Devin Townsend - Terria (2001)

99 Pan Sonic - Kesto (234.48:4) (2004)

100 Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Yanqui U.X.O. (2002)

Martian, that list is even whiter than the NME's.

Looks like the NME actually went for a full Top 100. There's actually some half-decent stuff in nos 100-51.

http://www.nme.com/list/albums-of-the-decade/158049/page/1

no. 71: Brian Wilson - Smiley Smile

lololololololololololol

BTW I like the way they've done the blurbs for a bunch of them just by cutting and pasting guff from Wikipedia. It's like they weren't really too sure themselves of who some of the older guys were.

it's just a statistical music snapshot of circa 200-225 people on rateyourmusic.com not lets maximize racial diversity / representation of music of the 00s list

anyway my network list is represented with far more countries than the NME list

NME list

shocked to see this:

67 Botch - we Are the Romans

this is a brilliant rock album, and loved by John Peel - however this was a 1999 release
http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/botch/we_are_the_romans/

laughing at chav-indie-landfill on the NME list:

55 Hard-Fi - Stars Of CCTV

My new favourite thing ever:

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/4163/nme.gif

I don't really think I have anything left to say about this list.

I'll probably vote for The Knife, not because I'm a massive electrohead or anything, but because it's pretty much the only album on that list that I still listen to with any regularity.

I like the Delgados a lot, but certainly not "album of the decade". And I just cannot stomach it going to Radiohead. (even though I love them, they got album of teh decade last decade)

nme lol

― abanana, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 09:31 (4 hours ago) Bookmark

That logo thing might need an edit what with the female editor and all.

12. LCD Soundsystem - The Sound Of Silver
14. Radiohead - Kid A
25. Rapture - Echoes
26. Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner
37. The Knife - Silent Shout
39. Crystal Castles - Crystal Castles
44. Outkast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
50. MIA - Arular

These are the albums on this list that I still listen to with any regularity; my favorite would be a toss-up between Dizzee and The Knife.

I still listen to crystal castles

I don't think it's that exceptional though it just has fun sounds

I've only just realised it's Arular in the top 50 and not Kala.

Yeah, Arular over Kala is a bit "eh?"

That logo thing might need an edit what with the female editor and all

pretty sure it was done by a white man anyway - how stupid fucking of him

Kala is at no. 72.

I'm just glad that Snoop got to cast his vote in this poll, I think without him it would look very different

Predictably dull list, however thanks to it I'm checking out Wild Beasts who so far are terrific. Guess they still have their uses.

the front cover of this week's NME looks rather bland design wise too

http://bit.ly/dQtW8

Amusing they've put Liam and Noel in the most prominent places.

It feels like this list reflects some of the editorial lostness of the current NME. If they'd done this at most points of the past there'd have been an absolutely contemporary album in the top 10, I'm sure, whereas In Rainbows is the closest thing to that in this list and even that's the 00s Pink Floyd choice.

I've only just realised it's Arular in the top 50 and not Kala.

― Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Tuesday, November 17, 2009 6:32 AM Bookmark

I will never for one second of my life understand people who prefer Kala.

― suggestbannn/the lorax below (The Reverend), Thursday, October 1, 2009 9:46 AM Bookmark

idk what the point of a list like this is where you're just gonna throw pitchfork's choices in a blender and come up with a different order

God this list makes me sick. I am seriously nauseated right now. I can't remember the last time I've been this angry about anything. My blood is just boiling. Who the heck do these "editors" think they are, anyway?

I thought that Pol Pot and the Nazis were bad. But they've got nothing on these people. This is serious evil.

no Hissing Fauna, amirite?

No ! Of Montreal - are not popular in the UK, just another obscure Canadian indie band, endorsed only by plan b readers

.....

lol

georgia is pretty close to canada, to be fair *rolls eyes*

Nearer to the Ukraine I'd've thought.

the piste is a grotesque animal

ha

No ! Of Montreal - are not popular in the UK, just another obscure American indie band, endorsed only by plan b readers

I thought that Pol Pot and the Nazis were bad. But they've got nothing on these people. This is serious evil.

Yah that's what I thought first time I heard Of Montreal.

haha me too

loooooool <3

They should all be packed off to the Hague without delay.

(by which I mean The Stephen Hague)

http://conservativehome.blogs.com/interviews/images/william_hague_2.jpg

And I never ever wanted to write this song
I always thought things would change somehow
And we would start getting along
But it's hopeless
Hopeless

ha, I didn't even catch the mislabeled nationality, I was just bemused at martian taking my joke seriously

MIA, I guess.

Silent Shout >>>>>> Arular imo

Poor Franz :(

Mice to read The Streets in the top 20 twice.

Hey this is voted for by bands i think not writers. Anyone know? Maybe both.

The winning album was chosen by a panel of more than 100 music industry figures, including bands such as Arctic Monkeys, Radiohead, Glasvegas, Paul Weller, Robert Smith, Vampire Weekend, as well as producers, festival bookers, label owners and NME staff past and present.

Silent Shout >>>>>> Arular imo

One of these days I'm going to listen to the Knife.

also...

The Top 100 albums released between January 2000 and December 2009, as voted for by NME staff (past and present) plus a selection of musicians and industry figures that included Arctic Monkeys, Carl Barat, The Killers, Jarvis Cocker, Pete Doherty, Elbow, Johnny Marr, MGMT, Ian Brown. The Big Pink, Snoop Dogg, Alan McGee, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Michael Eavis and many, many more...

I have owned 17 of these at some time or another (mostly within the last 10 years). Currently own the White Stripes records, Speakerboxx/TLB and Arular. So it's probably one of those, right?

― my full five minutes of iguana time (contenderizer)

they all may have come out in the last decade iirc

silent shout

Asking Robert Smith and Wellah to vote in this seems kinda strange to me.

Voted for Rings Around the World. Mwng is better, though.

Surprised - pleasantly so? - by the high placing of Stories From The City, Stories From The Sea. Guess not many rated White Chalk?

I remember liking that album a lot during the three times I played it.

Stories From The City... fits perfectly into that early 00s retro 70s New York cool though. I'm not surprised its up there with The Strokes given the overlap in their influences. More surprised by the low placing of the two White Stripes albums to be honest, maybe they split the vote.

I bought the NME for the first time in ages today. The writing is appalling (there's an opening line from James McMahon that I will reproduce later in its full awfulness) but its stance isn't as obnoxiously territorial as in its early 00s Rock Is Back phase.

They've played it well, it's getting loads of publicity and the Franz omission even seems to be a talking-point (in the microworld of the nme website and its micromoon, this thread)

Bobby Gillespie voted XTRMNTR as his album of the decade. Lol.

rest of the list

via summary
http://stereogum.com/archives/list/nmes_50_greatest_albums_of_the_00s_101501.html

100 MGMT - Oracular Spectacular
99 The Maccabees - Colour It In
98 Gorillaz - Demon Days
97 Sigur Ros - Agaetis Byrjun
96 Shellac - Excellent
95 Bjork - Vespertine
94 Eighties Matchbox B-Line Disaster - Horse Of The Dog
93 Clap Your Hands Say Yeah - Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
92 The Sleepy Jackson - Lovers
91 Les Savy Fav - Let’s Stay Friends
90 Gallows - Orchestra Of Wolves
89 Frightened Rabbit - The Midnight Organ Fight
88 Bonnie Prince Billy - The Letting Go
87 Bon Iver - For Emma, Forever Ago
86 The Twilight Sad - Forget The Night Ahead
85 Roots - Manuva Run Come Save Me
84 Regina Spector - Soviet Kitsch
83 Laura Marling - Alas, I Cannot Swim
82 Mclusky - Mclusky Do Dallas
81 Field Music - Field Music
80 Danger Mouse - The Grey Album
79 Kings Of Leon - Youth And Young Manhood
78 Belle & Sebastian - Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like A Peasant
77 Isobel Campbell - Ballad Of The Broken Seas
76 Capdown - Civil Disobedients
75 The Shins - Chutes Too Narrow
74 Brand New - The Devil And God Are Raging Inside Of Me
73 Broken Social Scene - You Forgot It In People
72 MIA - Kala
71 Brian Wilson - Smile
70 Glasvegas - Glasvegas
69 Biffy Clyro - Puzzle
68 The Horrors - Primary Colours
67 Botch - We Are The Romans
66 Mogwai - The Hawk Is Howling
65 Muse - Black Holes And Revelations
64 The Radio Dept. - Lesser Matters
63 Godspeed You Black Emperor - Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven
62 Queens Of The Stone Age - Rated R
61 The National - Alligator
60 Green Day - American Idiot
59 The Hold Steady - Boys And Girls In America
58 Liars - Drum's Not Dead
57 Outkast - Stankonia
56 My Morning Jacket - Z
55 Hard-Fi - Stars Of CCTV
54 The Golden Virgins Songs Of Praise
53 Jamie T - Panic Prevention
52 Rufus Wainwright - Poses
51 The Good, The Bad and The Queen - The Good, The Bad and The Queen

ha

85 Roots - Manuva Run Come Save Me

should be: Roots Manuva - Run Come Save Me

This doesn't put me in the mood for an ILM 00s poll.

man they really, really dislike 'room on fire'

62 Queens Of The Stone Age - Rated R

but Songs For The Deaf and the 1st album are superior.

Jesus.

Yes?

Well that second half of the list at least has a few curveballs. Capdown?! Plus yeah that Botch album is pretty great.

the golden virgins? hein? i mean i like that record but am flabbergasted anyone else remembers it

Strange Belle & Sebastian choice? Easily their worst album.

I guess Alan McGee being able to vote explains Glasvegas at number seventy. I look forward to seeing the rest of his choices.

1.Glasvegas-Glasvegas
2.Primal Scream-Xtrmntr
3.Glasvegas Christmas album
4-7.Oasis albums released this decade (Incredible return to forms, all of them)
8.Cosmic Rough Riders-Enjoy The Melodic Sunshine

Can't believe they forgot The Vines I remember a whole year of them telling me they were the new Nirvana. Surprised how badly a lot of their actual album's of the year did. Ok not too shocked about MGMT but no Coldplay or Franz Ferdinand.

I voted LCD Soundsystem.

haha trolls

Hello, I'd like to point out that I have neither started this thread nor posted on it so far.

Hmm, pick one....

Might go for KidA.

Blimey, "Rapture"? Remember how they were all over this place back in the day? (Not personally, obv)

The kids love the Vampire Weekend.

No Franz and no Killers and no Kings of Leon = bizarre for NME, no?

My album of the 00s isn't in here but may have fallen foul of US/UK release date confusion (100% definitely a 2000 UK release). Apart from that...

I finally heard the first Libertines album yesterday. My fucking lord, what happened to the UK's ears while I was away in 02-03? Absolutely terrible apart from about 1.7 songs in total.

OPO from this list, though? Toss-up between

7. Arcade Fire - Funeral
9. The Streets - Original Pirate Material
12. LCD Soundsystem - The Sound Of Silver
37. The Knife - Silent Shout
45. Avalanches - Since I Left You

The Canadians have it.

I finally heard the first Libertines album yesterday. Absolutely terrible.

OPO from this list, though?

7. Arcade Fire - Funeral

lol?

Biggest falls from grace, when compared to the NME's end-of-year lists:

Coldplay – A Rush Of Blood To The Head (#1, 2002)
Franz Ferdinand – Franz Ferdinand (#1, 2004)
MGMT - Oracular Spectacular (#1, 2008 - #100 in the new list)

Spiritualized - Let It Come Down (#2, 2001)
The Vines – Higly Evolved (#2, 2002)
TV On The Radio – Dear Science (#2, 2008)
Arctic Monkeys – Favourite Worst Nightmare (#2, 2007)

The Strokes – Room On Fire (#3, 2003)
Franz Ferdinand – You Could Have It So Much Better (#3, 2005)

Badly Drawn Boy – The Hour Of Bewilderbeast (#4, 2000)
Elbow – Cast Of Thousands (#4, 2003)
Scissor Sisters – Scissor Sisters (#4, 2004)
Antony & The Johnsons – I Am A Bird Now (#4, 2005)
Hot Chip – The Warning (#4, 2006)

Starsailor - Love Is Here (#5, 2001)
Black Rebel Motor Cycle Club – BRMC (#5, 2002)
The Futureheads – The Futureheads (#5, 2004)
Kaiser Chiefs – Employment (#5, 2005)
CSS – Cansei De Sexy (#5, 2006)
Foals – Antidotes (#5, 2008)

Surprised to find that neither The Killers nor Kings Of Leon have ever been in the annual Top Fives, let alone the end of decade list.

You guys do know this was mostly voted for by record company types and people in bands, right?

(Also Let It Come Down is there at #36 innit)

What was really apparent from reading the issue is that the NME is still thanking its lucky stars that The Strokes came along when they did. "Lol Travis" is a bit of a running theme... also it suggest they're going to start Year Zeroing like crazy almost as soon as we get into the next decade.

They probably won't be lucky enough to have a new Strokes next time round especially as all indications are that the next generation of kids aren't that interested in guitars. That probably won't stop them trying to crown one though.

then they will claim a year zero and guitars are dead and a non guitar band will be heralded as the new smiths.

There's more chance of a zebra becoming the next editor than that happening.

http://www.greatplay.net/images/zebra.jpg

"Sorry I'm running late, I'm here for the editor's position."

The presence of those black stripes just screams "tokenism" to me.

The black is the background; the stripes are white, duh.

you mean LIKE THE WHITE STRI... oh forget it.

I'm absolutely amazed Coldplay were album of the year. How exactly were they perceived in 2002?

MGMT's fall from grace is stupidly quick, but other than that I wouldn't necessarily expect many of the early-decade leaders to feature in today's list - simply because 9 years ago is ancient history to nme's readership. It would've been in my day anyway, if they're choosing Coldplay as album of the year the modern readership could be older than me.

It's because it's a nostalgia poll. I'm not surprised that the class of 07-09 are largely absent, given that these are members of bands voting primarily on their early contemporaries/influences/personal favourites from when they were coming up.

I remember at the time there was a rumour that The Coral had been voted the best album of 2002 but they chose to put Coldplay and The Vines at the top instead as they appealed more to what the readers wanted or something along those lines.

There's a few mentions in the magazine how in 1999 all there was to listen to was Travis and if it wasn't for The Strokes we would have spent the decade listening to them Starsailor and Turin Brakes. I guess the new editor who seems to have a real dislike for Travis (they ruined her new years party in 99 apparently??) puts Coldplay in that category of bland indie we won't be seeing anymore in the magazine. She also says there were no truly great albums released between Ladies & Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space and XTRMNTR.

a world with no travis,coldplay,keane etc would be a much better one

and if all you were listening to in 1999 was Travis, then you weren't looking hard enough for good stuff and serves you right for buying travis because nme liked them.

It was pretty easy to ignore Travis from 2001 onwards though. Coldplay, not so much.

I never really hated Travis like I hate Coldplay I kind of just nothing them. I seem to remember their first three albums did pretty well in their end of year lists though and the NME loved Starsailor when they came about, didn't they call that period the new acoustic movement?

I'm a huge fan of The Strokes but I do feel we had to suffer quite a lot because of them. They paint it like they invented The Libertines and Arctic Monkeys (Good things in their opinion) but didn't we also get Jet, The Vines, The Datsuns, The Hives and many others not present in their latest list.

Can't really remember what was big with the NME in 1999, Terris? Campag Velocet?

wow, Campag Velocet. that's a name I haven't heard in a while...

"there were no truly great albums released between Ladies & Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space and XTRMNTR"

I guess the cashier at Our Price could have put OK Computer through before LAGWAFIS on that day. 31 months without a classic album, that's a long time. I do sort of see where's she coming from though. There's not really anything vaguely exciting NME/guitar that was exciting the readers as well released in that period. At one end nearer the Travis axis were The Verve, Embrace, Catatonia, Sterophonics and so on. At the other end things were weird (largely US)dance. Thinking The Flaming Lips, Mercury Rev, Beck, Basement Jaxx, Death In Vegas, Massive Attack etc). I mean she's wrong, but I see her point.

The bit inside the magazine about the relationship between TV and indie represents everything that's wrong with the magazine for me. (contains a large factual error about YouTube being around in 2004 in the first paragraph)

Will never forgive the Strokes for forcing me personally to listen to the Datsuns.

Can't really remember what was big with the NME in 1999, Terris? Campag Velocet?

http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/1999.html

Travis are down at 40 btw.

Remember when the NME used to come round your house and chuck out any CDs it didn't approve of?

The Hives were around a few years before the Strokes started, but I suppose you could still blame the Strokes for them being famous?

I quite like the Hives though anyway. Which I can't say for the rest of them.

the NME loved Starsailor when they came about, didn't they call that period the new acoustic movement?

Didn't they call that, wait a minute… Stool rock? Or was than an earlier cycle?

There's actually some really great albums in that 1999 list. The Flaming Lips probably was the best album of that year depending on if 69 love Songs counts or not. Basement Jaxx, Super Furry Animals, TLC, Blur, Ol Dirty Bastard, Jim O'Rourke, The Auteurs and The Beta Band are all pretty great. I think it all changed with The Strokes and the 2002 list is really where the rot set in. This whole decade issue seems to be celebrating the moment when it really lost it and never recovered.

I'm really shocked they left out Franz Ferdinand especially when they remembered to include The Coral and Hard Fi, I didn't think they had fallen out of favour that much.

New Acoustic Movement and 'stool rock' were the same thing I think; to be fair they didn't pursue either of them with any real seriousness

'stool rock'! You're making that up. They might as well have called it 'shit music'

We shit you not!

Lest we forgot Dad Rock / Noel Rock.

Yeah but they were pejoratives, ditto 'sportz metal'.

Was Dad Rock in the 1990s? Surprisingly, I forget.

putting Speakerboxxx 13 places above Stankonia is pure insanity. How The Shins / Arcade Fire / Bright Eyes made this list i will never understand.
Ultimately I'll vote Since I Left You though, Its the one I come back to most often.

The NME of the late 90s was completely lost. By backing Britpop so fiercely and largely neglecting the incredible new developments in jungle, techno and hip-hop in the mid 90s, they backed themselves into an indie corner. So the narrative of "it were nothing but Travis round here, thank god for the Strokes" is convenient, as it gets them off the hook. As Britpop imploded I started to explore other types of music, hip-hop in particular. And I loved stuff like Beck, Flaming Lips and Mercury Rev too. That period could have seen the NME adopt a more open, post-genre stance, but it was not to be. The paper's dance section was ditched in the name of eclecticism. While that section might have been a ghetto, at least it meant electronic music had some guaranteed coverage. NME had its hip-hop fans at the time - Stevie Chick, Dele Fadele - and other writers like David Stubbs, John Mulvey and Kitty Empire repped for more interesting leftfield rock in the reviews section, but the editors showed such a lack of courage at covering anything outwith Brit guitar music that any possibility of confidently moving towards a broader perspective was lost. So we'd get cringe-worthy hip-hop or metal issues as a tokenistic gesture, before returning to a safe bet Oasis cover the next. To be fair, that period also saw them put Aphex Twin on the cover, which would be unthinkable now.

think it all changed with The Strokes and the 2002 list is really where the rot set in.

Yeah, that's pretty much bang on. As late as 2001 it had Aaliyah, GYBE and Basement Jaxx et al on the cover which was pretty much impossible a couple of years later.

I think the dance section got canned more like 2003 if we're splitting hairs? It did get smaller in the late 90s for def

You can almost pinpoint the moment when they ditched anything other than indie rock as their cover of choice here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NME_Covers

xpost, I can't remember a dance section as late as 2003, or even late 90s for that matter. My memory may be mistaken though.

What, that would have been at this point:

# 10/02/01 Hip hop Special
# 17/02/01 NME Awards special - Bono, Noel and Liam Gallagher

I know there was one in the early 00s because I wrote reviews in it xp

It pretty much settled into all indie all the time around the time Conor McNicholas took over the editorship (early 2002?). But by then we were facing a guitar music commercial boom that lasted for most of the rest of the decade so it must have made sense at the time. 00s NME has been more about the definition of an aesthetic than at any point in its history, from what I can tell.

Ha, my hip-hop to Oasis was just speculation, but there you go! Interesting reading that. The 2001 covers are interesting, what with Aaliyah, Roger Sanchez (!) Andrew WK, Aphex Twin and So So Solid Crew, as well as Travis and Starsailor. Schizophrenic, but you can see how much had changed by 2002, with Oasis getting on the cover at least once a month! Think that's the point where I started to give up on it, although I'd still buy it from time to time.

x-post, fair enough re the dance section, but as you say, it got a lot smaller in the late 90s. I might be getting mixed up with Select, which, in the late 90s, made a great play of the fact they were ditching the dance section because everyone listened to dance music now and they didn't want to ghettoise it. Fair enough - *if* their coverage had gone beyond the crossover acts like Chemical Brothers, Prodigy, Fat Boy Slim or indie-friendly hip-hop like Beasties and Jurassic 5.

Roger Sanchez was the summer's popular face of Ibiza iirc, I don't think he was on there out of respect for his groundwork in the US house scene if you get me... it was the Ibiza v Ayia Napa issue which is a pretty big 'woah, different time' signifier in itself I should say

Oasis have been on the cover 33 times this decade according to the magazine. Arctic Monkeys 10, Kasier Chiefs 6, Kings of Leon 6, Killers 6, Libertines 7, Strokes 16, White Stripes 14.

I know there was one in the early 00s because I wrote reviews in it xp

I stopped reading early '01 and it had disappeared long before that, but they may have reintroduced it after I stopped reading.

Or maybe they'd already brought it back by then, but it definitely went missing for a while. They usually had a token electronic act in the "ones to watch" section in the late 90s instead, but the specialised section with like 4 pages of interviews and 12" mini-reviews (possibly the best bit of the NME circa '95) disappeared around the time it went full colour, I think. '97 or '98?

Soon after I started buying the NME (91 I think) they had a retrospective where they listed their most popular cover stars - they really valued their cover status then. Bowie was top having amassed about 15 over the course of his career; the tenth most popular band had seven or eight covers.

Yeah, that really hits the nail on the head - it's like the pool of available cover stars has shrunk to the point of implausibility.

It's like they take the same 5 artists and just shuffle them - even if someone isn't the cover star, their face will be on there somewhere.

Going by the list on Wikipedia they've had 23 cover stars so far this year, excluding group/montage type covers.

T-Rex on the cover x 7 in 1972!

Oasis have been on the cover 33 times this decade according to the magazine.

I bet none of their albums were even close to this list, quite rightly. In this current issue they have a feature on bands they want to get back together which includes Oasis that says "Apart from anything else we're missing those glorious interviews" which says a lot about the NME. I'm not sure them slagging off whichever bands were getting press at the time counts as a glorious interview.

When they praise The Strokes they say they were not perfect as their interviews were boring as fuck and the second album was flawed. That will the same flawed album they gave 9/10 and if they were so dull why put them on the cover once a month in those few years?

Does anyone else remember that week when it had a big article on The Stokes day out Go karting? There was a letter the next week just saying slow week was it lads?

i rememeber reading about guys like mr shabz from so solid and kelis in the nme when i was at uni but that was a long time ago.

who are the frontrunners to win the NME album of the year 2009?

From this list I would say Wild Beasts or The Horrors. They may well go with Animal Collective to make up for the fact they've never made it onto any of their lists before. They gave The Flaming Lips 10/10 maybe that is in with a shot? If we are going by the past two years maybe Empire Of The Sun as they are this years band who were hyped up despite just having a few good songs on their album.

I really hope it goes to Wild Beasts, it would be the first time they get it right this decade.

i dont think i've read the NME once this year, so i dont know who they are hyping. I expect i'll buy the AOY issue as usual though, but i miss them including the list in the xmas issue. New editor should change this but wont.

"Apart from anything else we're missing those glorious interviews"

But their last major Liam Gallagher cover story/interview feature was all about his exciting new clothing range!

They gave the Flips album 9/10 or rather I did. I don't think what I believe or think has much bearing on what goes on at IPC, although I did get to vote for my top 20 albums and tracks. My boss says the albums of the year list is the most interesting/varied they've had in years.

wouldnt be hard

I couldn't possibly comment.

List&thread much more boring than the pfork equivalents.

Metacritic and Wikipedia both say The Flaming Lips got 10/10, the NME site actually says it got 0/10?? Was it actually printed as a 9?

In 2005 there was a rumour going round that they redid the final list changing the number one from Arcade Fire to Bloc Party and moving up albums by Oasis and Babyshambles amongst others. I'm not sure how reliable the source was but them bumping up Oasis and Babyshambles does make sense as they spent most of that year writing about them. I remember at the time being really pissed when I saw the albums they apparently took out, The Tears, New Order and Patrick Wolf were included but now I'm just baffled why I cared so much. I'm sure this happens a lot and I'm also sure whatever the NME print it has to be a better than Q's list..Kasabian really??

Is this the rumour you mean? http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/dec/02/1

It got printed as 9/10, I've got the cut lying around somewhere.

I think there may be a glitch in their CMS.

Fair enough. I can't remember if I saw it in the actual magazine I think I did just read it online, it does deserve a 9.

Is this the rumour you mean? http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/dec/02/1

Yeah that's the one, I remember them going into detail about who had been moved up and it all just kind of made sense. Looking at the list they've just published it's clear there may have been truth in them swapping Arcade Fire and Bloc Party. I was (still am) a big Suede fan so I just assumed it was true them getting rid of The Tears album.

another decade list...

The 100 best pop albums of the Noughties - The Times
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article6922991.ece

KID A at Number 1

a rateyourmusic.com user has formatted the NME decade list into a rym list .... with text

NME's Top 100 Albums of the 2000s
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/dmpulp/nmes_top_100_albums_of_the_2000s/

Well I was gonna sit down and have a think about LCDSS vs Rapture vs Dizzee but in the end I decided to drink a bunch and vote for ATDI so yeah.

Nice to see Fuck Buttons, Holy Fuck and Broadcast (Tender Buttons - something of a theme forming with my favourites here) on lists but that Times list is a snooze apart from that (and Take That? really?), though I guess also points for remembering Missy Elliott when the NME didn't

Another nul points for Daft Punk though.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

32. Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Show Your Bones

what?

Next Up: for the decade list: Observer Music Monthly

10: Burial - Untrue
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2009/nov/23/burial-untrue

Observer Music Monthly starts the countdown to the 10 best albums of the decade with this melancholic masterclass from dubstep's dark knight ....Buy this Sunday's Observer for the full top 50 countdown, plus an interview with the winner.

Prediction: Kid A = Number 1 for OMM?

OMM #1 - something involving Damon Albarn. Anything, who cares.

NME's the only list I've seen so far without Kid A at #1

OMM #1 - something involving Damon Albarn. Anything, who cares.

I would expect to see Jarvis Cocker in there too. I think they will probably go with Arctic Monkeys or are they a bit obvious?

there is no more OMM so not so sure there will be a list.
or, are they doing a special one-off for crimbo ?

I know I said XTRMNTR originally but I've just voted for LCDSS.

I think the dance section got canned more like 2003 if we're splitting hairs? It did get smaller in the late 90s for def

it disappeared shortly after ben knowles took over editorship of the magazine. i remember arguing in a freelancers meeting that it should be *bigger than the half-page or so it had dwindled to at that point, and then by the end of the meeting, everyone else seemed to have decided that by giving dance music its own section, this was somehow ghettoising it, and surely the genre could be adequately covered in the rest of the magazine. i'll leave you to decide whether it was or wasn't.

also the hip-hop special included some of the stone-cold most excruciating music journalism i have ever read in my life, oh my lord...

the times put dizzees 3rd album in there instead of BIDC.

I almost gave up reading The Times list at the beginning when I saw Red Hot Chili Peppers.

There's a lot of bands I'm glad to see in there but for me they've gone with the wrong albums. Hot Chip, Saint Etienne, Girls aloud, Goldfrapp, Fever Ray (instead of The Knife), Air, Outkast, Elbow and especially LCD Soundsystem, I just can't see anyone thinking the debut is better than Sound Of Silver.

I thought Antony & The Johnsons would be doing a lot better in these lists.

OMM will not be published from January 2010, so this will be the last one.

http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=1&storycode=44591&c=1

"Editor John Mulholland told staff that a new look Observer, to be unveiled early next year, will be a less substantial package than that currently on offer."

The new-look Observer will comprise: news, sport, review and the Observer magazine. The company said today that the review and magazine sections will be expanded

times list is better than the nme one

observer got the wrong burial one (they picked the one they heard OF rather than the one they should have heard)

The Times list is rather wacky, but just imagine the laughter awaiting the 00s list by Q magazine

The Q list is going to be a disaster. Think of every bland group that's sold a shit load of records then add one of the Kanye West albums and The Streets second album to show how hip they are.

Who exactly would that be a disaster for?

I'm quite proud that ILM is doing an 80s list instead.

lists xp

Q is a disaster

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

3? Disappointing

35. Babyshambles - Down In Albion 2

lol

how did spiritualized get 4 votes? i mean fair enough, a good sixth of that album is spent on one of the greatest pieces of rock music ever written, but it's not all gold. hmm.

I'd be more worried that 14 people think the knife made the best album of the decade.

no, 14 people think the knife made the best album out of the 50 albums on NME's best of the decade list.

they're choosing from a list of 50 crutis otm, but it's still an odd one. maybe the knife make excellent electronic burbles and lots of people on ilm dislike guitar indie

would you prefer they voted babyshambles?

i wasn't making any sort of judgement call, and also no fucking way

Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Fever To Tell 0

whut?

actually tbh i wouldn't have voted for it despite loving it and stuff

14 is not enough

11. At The Drive-In - Relationship Of Command 8
26. Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner 6
22. Jay-Z - The Blueprint 4

Lol self-selecting poll.

Here's the current top 40 from the aggregated polls on Acc.Music (Includes NME, Q, Pitchfork, Gigwise, Paste etc)

1 Strokes, The Is This It
2 Radiohead Kid A
3 Arcade Fire Funeral
4 Wilco Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
5 OutKast Stankonia
6 LCD Soundsystem Sound of Silver
7 Stevens, Sufjan Illinois
8 Jay-Z The Blueprint
9 White Stripes, The Elephant
10 Animal Collective Merriweather Post Pavillon
11 Arctic Monkeys Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not
12 White Stripes, The White Blood Cells
13 Winehouse, Amy Back to Black
14 Franz Ferdinand Franz Ferdinand
15 Radiohead In Rainbows
16 Interpol Turn On the Bright Lights
17 Burial Untrue
18 M.I.A. Kala
19 Primal Scream Xtrmntr
20 Sigur Rós Agaetis Byrjun
21 Streets, The Original Pirate Material
22 Queens of the Stone Age Songs for the Deaf
23 Eminem The Marshall Mathers LP
24 Flaming Lips, The Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots
25 Daft Punk Discovery
26 West, Kanye The College Dropout
27 M.I.A. Arular
28 Modest Mouse The Moon & Antarctica
29 At the Drive-In Relationship of Command
30 Bon Iver For Emma, Forever Ago
31 Antony and The Johnsons I Am a Bird Now
32 Shins, The Chutes Too Narrow
33 Knife, The Silent Shout
34 Avalanches, The Since I Left You
35 TV on the Radio Return to Cookie Mountain
36 Panda Bear Person Pitch
37 Fleet Foxes Fleet Foxes
38 Dizzee Rascal Boy in da Corner
39 Harvey, PJ Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea
40 Vampire Weekend Vampire Weekend

and here is Uncut's which I giddily copied on to my phone

1. Animal Collective – Merriweather Post Pavilion
2. Super Furry Animals – Dark Days/Light Years
3. Dirty Projectors – Bitte Orca
4. Bob Dylan – Together Through Life
5. Wild Beasts – Two Dancers
6. XX – The XX
7. Wilco – Wilco (The Album)
8. Grizzly Bear – Veckatimest
9. Yeah Yeah Yeahs – It’s Blitz!
10. Phoenix – Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix
11. Bill Callaham – Sometimes I Wish We Were An Eagle
12. Fever Ray – Fever Ray
13. White Denim – Fits
14. Flaming Lips – Embryonic
15. Bassekou Kouyate And Ngoni Ba – I Speak Fula
16. Florance And The Machine – Lungs
17. Doves – Kingdom Of Rust
18. Graham Coxon – The Spinning Top
19. Sonic Youth – The Eternal
20. Horrors – Primary Colours
21. Low Anthem – Oh My God, Charlie Darwin
22. Alela Diane – To Be Still
23. Manic Street Preachers – Journal For Plague Lovers
24. Micachu And The Shapes – Jewellery
25. Sunn 0))) – Monoliths And Dimensions
26. Unthanks – Here’s The Tender Coming
27. Yo La Tengo – Popular Songs
28. Madness – The Liberty Of Norton Folgate
29. PJ Harvey & John Parish – A Woman A Man Walked By
30. Jim O’ Rourke – The Visitor
31. Dead Weather – Horehound
32. Iggy Pop – Preliminaries
33. Duke And The King – Nothing Gold Can Stay
34. Trembling Bells – Carberth
35. Tinariwen – Imidiwan: Companions
36. Fuck Buttons – Tarot Sport
37. Dinosaur Jr – Farm
38. Arctic Monkeys – Humbug
39. Cornershop – Judy Sucks On A Lemon For Breakfast
40. Felice Brothers – Yonder Is The Cock
41. Van Morrison – Astral Weeks Live At The Hollywood Bowl
42. Richard Hawley – Truelove’s Gutter
43. Bruce Springsteen – Working On A Dream
44. Reigning Sound – Love And Curses
45. Richmond Fontaine – We Used To Think The Freeway Sounded Like A River
46. Broadcast & The Focus Group - …Investigate Witch Cults Of The Radio Age
47. Alasdair Roberts – Spoils
48. Raphael Saadiq – The Way I See It
49. Jay-Z – The Blueprint 3
50. Kurt Vile – Childish Prodigy

that's 2009 not 2000's

Gash. I thought I clicked on the thread.

To account for that faux-pas here is the NME's tracks of the decade.

100 Maximo Park - Apply Some Pressure (2005)
99 The Flaming Lips - Do You Realize?? (2002)
98 Morrissey - Irish Blood, English Heart (2004)
97 Sugababes - Round Round (2002)
96 Oasis - The Shock Of The Lightning (2008)
95 The Killers - All These Things That I've Done (2004)
94 Animal Collective - My Girls (2009)
93 Gang Gang Dance - House Jam (2008)
92 Johnny Cash - Hurt (2002)
91 CSS - Let's Make Love And Listen To Death From Above (2004)
90 Jay-Z - Empire State Of Mind (2009)
89 Beck - Chemtrails (2008)
88 The Horrors - Sea Within A Sea (2009)
87 Black Lips - Katrina (2007)
86 Foals - Balloons (2007)
85 Yeasayer - Sunrise (2007)
84 Pulp - Bad Cover Version (2001)
83 Destiny's Child - Independent Women Part 1 (2000)
82 Kings Of Leon - Sex On Fire (2008)
81 Fuck Buttons - Olympians (2009)
80 The Futureheads - Hounds Of Love (2005)
79 Muse - Plug In Baby (2001)
78 Glasvegas - Daddy's Gone (2007)
77 The Cribs - Men's Needs (2007)
76 Gnarls Barkley - Crazy (2006)
75 TV On The Radio - Staring At The Sun (2004)
74 Kylie Minogue - Can’t Get You Out Of My Head (2001)
73 Eminem - Without Me (2002)
72 The Knife - Heartbeats (2003)
71 Kelis - Milkshake (2003)
70 Primal Scream - Accelerator (2000)
69 Super Furry Animals - Slow Life (2003)
68 Kings Of Leon - Red Morning Light (2003)
67 The Vines - Highly Evolved (2002)
66 Friendly Fires - Paris (2007)
65 Wolfman - For Lovers (2004)
64 Jamie T - Sheila (2006)
63 Babyshambles - Fuck Forever (2005)
62 The Long Blondes - Giddy Stratospheres (2004)
61 Amy Winehouse - Back To Black (2006)
60 Regina Spektor - Us (2004)
59 Interpol - Evil (2004)
58 Radiohead - Everything In Its Right Place (2000)
57 Elbow - One Day Like This (2008
56 The Coral - Dreaming Of You (2002)
55 The Sleepy Jackson - Good Dancers (2003)
54 Sufjan Stevens - Chicago (2005)
53 The Libertines - Time For Heroes (2002)
52 The Shins - New Slang (2001)
51 Klaxons - Magick (2006)
50 Kasabian - Empire (2006)
49 Jay-Z - 99 Problems (2003)
48 Sebastien Tellier - La Ritournelle (2004)
47 Britney Spears - Toxic (2004)
46 Mogwai - Friend Of The Night (2006)
45 Dizzee Rascal - Fix Up Look Sharp (2003)
44 Battles - Atlas (2007)
43 Coldplay - Clocks (2002)
42 Gossip - Standing In The Way Of Control (2006*) {Remix was '05}
41 The Killers - Somebody Told Me (2004)
40 Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Zero (2009)
39 Girls Aloud - Sound Of The Underground (2002)
38 Doves - The Cedar Room (2000) {Original 1998}
37 Crystal Castles - Alice Practice (2007)
36 Missy Elliott - Get Ur Freak On (2001)
35 At The Drive-In - One Armed Scissor (2000)
34 The Hives - Hate To Say I Told You So (2000)
33 Queens Of The Stone Age - No One Knows (2002)
32 Art Brut - Formed A Band (2004)
31 Bloc Party - Banquet (2004)
30 Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out (2004)
29 LCD Soundsystem - Losing My Edge (2002)
28 Arctic Monkeys - I Bet You Look Good On The Dancefloor (2005)
27 Justice - We Are Your Friends (2006)
26 Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Y Control (2003)
25 Arcade Fire - Wake Up (2004)
24 Doves - There Goes The Fear (2002)
23 Muse - Knights Of Cydonia (2006)
22 The Strokes - Last Nite (2001)
21 The White Stripes - Fell In Love With A Girl (2001)
20 Hot Chip - Over And Over (2006)
19 Radiohead - Reckoner (2007)
18 Outkast - Miss Jackson (2000)
17 Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Maps (2003)
16 Rihanna - Umbrella (2007)
15 Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Bang (2002)
14 The White Stripes - Seven Nation Army (2003)
13 The Walkmen - The Rat (2004)
12 The Streets - Dry Your Eyes (2004)
11 The Libertines - Can't Stand Me Now (2004)
10 Arctic Monkeys - A Certain Romance (2006)
9 Arcade Fire - Rebellion (Lies) (2004)
8 Blur - Out Of Time (2003)
7 Klaxons - Golden Skans (2007)
6 The Rapture - House Of Jealous Lovers (2002)
5 Outkast - Hey Ya! (2003)
4 MIA - Paper Planes (2007)
3 The Strokes - Hard To Explain (2001)
2 MGMT - Time To Pretend (2008) {Original 2005}
1 Beyonce - Crazy In Love (2003)

aaaaaaargh

Dry your eyes mate

8 Blur - Out Of Time (2003)

How the hell did this get in there?

Cos it's like "The Universal" except good.

That's not too bad, I'll take that.

90 Jay-Z - Empire State Of Mind (2009)
90 Jay-Z - Empire State Of Mind (2009)
90 Jay-Z - Empire State Of Mind (2009)
90 Jay-Z - Empire State Of Mind (2009)

Yeah, I'd've put it higher too.

65 Wolfman - For Lovers (2004)

Hands up who forgot this dude ever existed?

I dunno, looking at it purely as a list of songs I'd say I like at least half of them, even if I could happily go a long time without listening to them ever again, which kind of makes me look a little less harshly on the idea of 00s NME/haircut indie, but at the same time Jesus Christ that period immediately after the Libertines first album threw up some of the worst music ever.

Is Wolfman still alive?

i guess i do find their apparent antipathy to Daft Punk surprising

62 The Long Blondes - Giddy Stratospheres (2004)

isn't this from 2007? good tho

twitter full of PATHETIC LOOSERS crying about 'Crazy In Love' coming top

Tbf I like "Halo" better too.

That's a dull list right there but I am glad to see these made it in,

72 The Knife - Heartbeats (2003)
55 The Sleepy Jackson - Good Dancers (2003)
48 Sebastien Tellier - La Ritournelle (2004)
32 Art Brut - Formed A Band (2004)

Their rap choices are just laughable and pop is barely represented at all.

Four Pete Doherty and just one LCD Soundsystem?

No room for Daft Punk, UGK, Fischerspooner, Junior Senior, Annie, Phoenix, Ted Leo, Portishead or Kanye West?

'Crazy In Love' is hardly an outrageous, unexpected or unjustifiable choice, is it? Or am I just no longer down with the kids? Maybe this is what it felt like repping for 'Another Day in Paradise' back in '99.

the JamTronik version i trust

'Formed A Band' is probably my least favourite song on there, apart from 'Can't Stand Me Now' maybe

No room for UGK ... Ted Leo?

Yeah I was also expecting big placings for people with very little UK profile who the NME gave next to no coverage in the last decade

62 The Long Blondes - Giddy Stratospheres (2004)

isn't this from 2007?

No.

Although apparently it was reissued in 2007, so there you go.

The NME did a shocking job of deciding which years the traacks came out on their website. Sometimes it was when the single came out the year before parent album, sometimes when it was released on the album and sometimes when it was released a year after the album. Or sometimes they just got it wrong. ('Crazy' 2007). I've corrected them all to first original release unless like in MGMT and Doves case they were reworked greatly.

yeah i like the implication above that the remix of The Gossip came before the original. also no Simian credit for 'We Are Your Friends' which was orig. 2003?

Yeah I was also expecting big placings for people with very little UK profile who the NME gave next to no coverage in the last decade

They didn't ever write about Sebastien Tellier but he made it in the list but yeah I see your point. Maybe one day they will acknowledge Ted Leo and start hyping him up even though they ignored his previous work like they did with Outkast, White Stripes and more recently Animal Collective. As for UGK I was thinking of Int'l Players Anthem and how that just should be in there if they can find room for Empire State Of Mind, I'm not even sure it was released as a single here.

proper results in this poll, good work ilm

You just know when the Mixmag poll comes out it's going to be full of the Strokes and Vampire Weekend.

FTR I am kind of a Ted Leo stan and circa 'Shake The Sheets' I honestly thought the UK might take to him in a big way but whaddayagonnado, if no-one bites then no-one bites

'La Ritournelle' was in NME's '05 singles of the year list iirc

let the laughter begin...

Q magazine - best 100 albums of the 00s

http://bit.ly/8Hzz70

100. Jay-Z - American Gangster
99. The Soundtrack Of Our Lives - Behind The Music
98. The Cribs - The New Fellas
97. Weird War - If You Can't Beat 'Em, Bite 'Em
96. Sara Watkins - Sara Watkins
95. The Moldy Peaches - The Moldy Peaches
94. Social Distortion - Sex, Love & Rock 'N' Roll
93. Morrissey - You Are The uarry
92. Republic Of Loose - Aaagh!
91. World Party - Dumbing Up
90. Bloc Party - Silent Alarm
89. Grinderman - Grinderman
88. RTX - Transmaniacon
87. Kathleen Edwards - Failer
86. Young Jeezy - Let's Get It: Thug Motivation 101
85. Ray Lamontagne - Trouble
84. The Fratellis - Costello Music
83. Grace Jones - Hurricane
82. Steven Fretwell - Magic
81. Kanye West - 808 Heartbreak
80. Soul Assassins - Soul Assassins II
79. The Gaslight Anthem - The '59 Sound
78. Rilo Kiley - More Adventurous
77. Liars - Drum's Not Dead
76. I Am Kloot - I Am Kloot Play Moolah Rouge
75. Hush Arbor - Yankee Reality
74. Gogol Bordello - Gypsies Punks: Underdog World Strike
73. Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes
72. Adele - 19
71. Lykke Li - Youth Novels
70. Silversun Pickup - Swoon
69. Queens Of The Stone Age - Rated R
68. Jeffrey Lewis - It's The Ones Who've Cracked
67. The Libertines - Up The Bracket
66. Spoon - Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga
65. Peaches - The Teaches Of Peaches
64. Cold War Kids - Robbers & Cowards
63. Joan As Policewoman - To Survive
62. Tony Christie - Made In Sheffield
61. Sleaterkinney - The Woods
60. Tinariwen - The Radio Tisdas Sessions
59. Blur - Think Tank
58. Robert Pollard - ...Is Off To Business
57. Rufus Wainwright - Want One
56. The Knife - Deep Cuts
55. Rufus Wainwright - Want Two
54. My Morning Jacket - At Dawn
53. The Streets - Original Pirate Material
52. The Gossip - Standing In The Way Of Control
51. Coldplay - Parachutes
50. The White Stripes - De Stijl
49. Pearl Jam - Riot Act
48. Bjork - Vespertine
47. Jay -Z - The Black Album
46. Damien Rice - O
45. Death Cab For Cutie - Plans
44. Pete Doherty - Grace/Wastelands
43. 50 Cent - Get Rich Or Die Tryin'
42. Bat For Lashes - Fur & Gold
41. Oasis - Don't Believe The Truth
40. The Verve - Forth
39. Justice - Cross
38. Black Rebel Motorcycle Club - B.R.M.C.
37. Tom Waits - Alice
36. Elbow - Leaders Of The Free World
35. Joanna Newsom - The Milk-Eyed Mender
34. Bon Iver - For Emma, Forever Ago
33. U2 - How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb
32. Anthony & The Johnsons - I Am A Bird Now
31. Neil Diamond - Home Before Dark
30. Radiohead - In Rainbows
29. Wilco - Blue Sky Blue
28. LCD Soundsystem - LCD Soundsytem
27. Yeah Yeah Yeah - Fever To Tell
26. The Good, The Bad & The Queen - The Good, The Bad & The Queen
25. TV On The Radio - Dear Science
24. MGMT - Oracular Spectacular
23. Gnarls Barkley - St Elsewhere
22. Missy Elliott - Under Construction
21. Robert Plant & Alison Krauss - Raising Sand
20. Justin Timberlake - Justified
19. The Streets - A Grand Don't Come For Free
18. The Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots
17. Alicia Keys - Songs In A Minor
16. Elbow - The Seldom Seen Kid
15. Sigur Ros - ()
14. Queens Of The Stone Age - Songs FOr The Deaf
13. Kings Of Leon - Aha Shake Heartbreak
12. Kasabian - Kasabian
11. The Killers - Sam's Town
10. Johnny Cash - American IV: The Man Comes Around
9. Radiohead - Kid A
8. Jay-Z - The Blueprint
7. Green Day - American Idiot
6. Arcdae Fire - Funeral
5. Coldplay - Viva La Vida Or Death And All His Friends
4. The White Stripes - Elephant
3. Aricic Monkey's - Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not
2. The Strokes - Is This It
1. Amy Winehouse - Back To Black

hahahahahahahahahaha oh shit son

like the NME no Franz Ferdinand in the Q list

OMM's list is marginally better:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/nov/29/albums-of-the-decade

100 - 50 actually quite good (other than Fratellis and American Gangstar as the supposed second Jay-Z choice.) Young Jeezy! Liars! Grace Jones!

quite good compared to what i expected anyway, i.e. wow thank god no snow patrol/keane/etc.

who are Sara Watkins, Weird War, Soul Assassins and Ray Lamontagne? i confess i don't read Q or listen to mainstream radio stations like Absolute Radio or Radio 2.

88. RTX - Transmaniacon

^killer album tbh

i expected Q to list razorlight

Probably is *actually* about the 88th best album of the 00s IN MY OPINION xp

13 JAMIE T Panic Prevention

Virgin, 2007

It started with the exclamation "fucking croissant!", sampled Betjeman and ended up as the most vivid portrait of London this decade, thanks to Wimbledon's finest.

^^^^more lol than both nme and q lists imo

ray montague is boring radio 2 acoustic shite. dunno about those others named.

lol @ OMM's #1 choice

Weird War = Ian Svenonius from Nation of Ulysses etc
Soul Assassins - Muggs from Cypress Hill
Ray Lamontagne = AOR songwriter dude ie the sort of thing you'd actually expect to see here

really think i need to figure a way into convincing everyone about the importance of jay-z's dynasty album over every other jay album that wasn't released on 11/09/01

that daily telegraph u2 loving music journo bigged up Jamie T on the mercury prize show - all i heard was generic chav indie

The Q list is actually pretty good.

13. Kings Of Leon - Aha Shake Heartbreak
12. Kasabian - Kasabian
11. The Killers - Sam's Town

is pretty smh tho and lol pete solo album beating the libertines first album. i know i was a 14 y/o nme reader when up the bracket came out but that shit was classic and dude has steadily got worse year by year and that solo album suckz

We are all posting on the wrong thread btw

Mean spirited of me, but I have to say it does my heart good to see The Strokes getting FUCKING SMEARED!

Your picture may be at the top of all the decade survey features, but you're running equal with the Super Fuckin' Furry Animals on three votes here, you half-arsed, skinny-tie, retro new wave fucks!

Sorry, had to get that off my chest. Arctic Mooks not placed too well either, eh? Hah!

quite good compared to what i expected anyway, i.e. wow thank god no snow patrol/keane/etc.

Yeah - quite a few curveballs, also it's nice to see Young Jeezy, Spoon, My Morning Jacket in there.

The Q list isn't as bad as I thought it would be they seem to have left out almost all the albums that came out on top of their end of year lists including albums by Keane, Muse, Coldplay, Razorlight, Kings Of Leon. It's really odd they didn't have the latest Kasabian album as it was this years number one when they have Pete Doherty which missed out on their list completely. I'm not complaining I would much rather see Grace Jones, My Morning Jacket and The Knife in instead, it just doesn't add up.

Also really funny that in 2006 they felt the need to print a top 100 albums which didn't include Amy Winehouse at all.

Some of the albums they thought were better?

Razorlight – Razorlight
Red Hot Chilli Peppers – Stadium Arcadium
The Kooks – Inside In/Inside Out
Jet – Shine On
Orson – Bright Idea
The Automatic – Not Accepted Anywhere
The Zutons – Tired Of Being Alone
Jack Johnson & Friends – Sing-A-Long And Lullabies..
The Vines – Vision Valley
Meatloaf – Bat Out Of Hell Iii: The Monster Is Loose
Badly Drawn Boy – Born In The Uk

I know Q are the easiest target but that is really the worst list I've ever seen.

These are acts that hardly any typical Q readers will find any value in at all, yet Q acknowledge their importance:

100. Jay-Z - American Gangster
81. Kanye West - 808 Heartbreak
43. 50 Cent - Get Rich Or Die Tryin'
22. Missy Elliott - Under Construction
20. Justin Timberlake - Justified
17. Alicia Keys - Songs In A Minor
8. Jay-Z - The Blueprint

They are indeed generalist, not specialist.

Biggest falls from grace, when compared to the NME's end-of-year lists:

But then.... it has always been NME's policy to hate whatever they loved 5 years ago. They are indeed quite predictable that way.

welcome back geir

Still, true.

But then.... it has always been NME's policy to hate whatever they loved 5 years ago. They are indeed quite predictable that way.

Except that top 50 list suggests the exact opposite

In what way is Alicia Keys not a typical Q artist?

You other seven people who voted for Relationship of Command, you are good and true people.

In what way is Alicia Keys not a typical Q artist?

has she been on the cover? bet that was a low seller

In what way is Alicia Keys not a typical Q artist?

Well, she is a soul/R&B singer for starters.

Might add the actual winner of this list too, but Amy Winehouse still hasn't participated on numerous collaborations with Jay-Z, Beyonce and Justin Timberlake yet, and as such she may have more "credibility" with the typical Q reader. Plus the fact that her style is so obviously 60s/retro.

I would have thought Alicia Keys was just pleasant-but-inoffensive enough to appeal to Q readers and clearly the magazine thought the same when they put her on the cover in 2002.

i think you've misunderstood Winehouse's appeal, Geir - it has less to do with 'credibility' and more to do with her songs having an emotional resonance alongside their instant 'pop' impact, compounded by a 'real life' soap opera that suggests her tales of hard luck and bad boyfriends come from her own experiences. that's why she's a phenomenon, and Duffy isn't, and its got nothing to do with whether she returns phonecalls from Beyonce or not.

also, Alicia Keys' debut album, heavy on the piano and the neo-soul accoutrements, was hardly the kind of R&B geir typically rails against.

Alicia Keys is definitely closer to a "classic" soul style than many of the others here, but she also has those "modern" elements. And to a much larger extent than Amy Winehouse and Duffy do.