who are the most loved band on ILM?

Fleetwood Mac?
Steely Dan?
Others?

I guess the followup is who divides ILM posters the most?

bands or singers, I mean, sorry

creedence & neil young iirc. my bloody valentine.

thought it was New Order

Sly and the Family Stone, Kraftwerk, Talking Heads, The Clash are some others

clash and t.heads are far from universally loved. they're more in the divisive category.

does anyone not like public enemy? (are they willing to say so?) or run-d.m.c.?

talking heads just won the 80s poll. Hardly divisive.

Kraftwerk?

Hmm.. See they have already been mentioned.

does anyone not like public enemy? (are they willing to say so?) or run-d.m.c.?

Raises hand, surprised that this was even proposed....

sorry geir. i think i automatically discount you...

And, well... No mention of Pet Shop Boys yet it seems.

and it's true remain in light won that poll, but if you read the heads threads there's an awful lot of unlove.

there was a poll, of sorts. i remember an earlier thread along these lines but can't find it.

yea i do too

the fall

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that poll seems like it's missing some obvious ones

Taylor Swift
The-Dream

neither of those are anywhere close

Haven't heard a discouraging word about Al Green

The Minutemen are pretty loved, although not with the frequency of Steely Dan.

"I guess the followup is who divides ILM posters the most?"

Look up threads with white dudes who play blues especially Stevie Ray Vaughn, that stuff will bring up some harsh venom. A couple of those threads ended up getting locked.

thought it was New Order

prince obv

It's either Pet Shop Boys or St. Etienne. Haven't we gone over this?

new order
joy division
the fall
morrissey or the smiths
radiohead
pet shop boys

all English bands

but also kraftwerk

I just looked at the poll... The VU are that loved?? pew pew

The B-52's?

It's either Pet Shop Boys or St. Etienne. Haven't we gone over this?

Correct and correct.

the SB-51's.. amirite?

http://instantrimshot.com/

not a true regular but i am awfully sure it's Prince

I'd say not Prince since people were pissed after "When Doves Cry" won the 80's tracks poll.

I wasn't.. but just sayin

Steely Dan, Prince, and The Fall are all too divisive.

I used "pissed" to mean "pissed off" or angry. Sorry if I confused UK readers.

Parliament/Funkadelic would also have to be on the ILM Mount Rushmore. Everybody likes, or at least respect them massively.

Most divisive is easy: Mariah Carey.

Check the threads...there are some pretty big fans of her on ILM, to put it mildly. There's also another equally passionate faction who think she sucks ass.

http://s3.directupload.net/images/091213/dw98k47b.jpg

Can't believe this is a new thread.

It's surely not The Beatles although it should have been IMO. I think most people here respect The Beatles to some extent, as in like some of their output, but those who (in spite of that) consider them overrated are probably in majority here. They may be one of the greatest white guys with guitars bands ever, but they were white guys with guitars, and some people just can't get over that here.

Prince appear to have 184 different ILM thread devoted to him, whereas The Beatles has 198 threads. So I guess Beatles win.

"appears to have 184 different ILM threadss"

just an observation (no statement)

Sonic Youth

Can't believe this is a new thread.

― kingkongvsgodzilla, Sunday, December 13, 2009

Sorry, I looked for an existing one..

lcd soundsystem

Prince appear to have 184 different ILM thread devoted to him, whereas The Beatles has 198 threads. So I guess Beatles win.

The longest thread ever on ILM is devoted to Dave Matthews, so he wins. :)

annie (from norway) or lindstrom & christabelle (er, from norway)?

• The Smiths
• Pet Shop Boys
• Prince
• Kate Bush

lcd soundsystem

no. absolutely no.

I'd say replace Smiths and Pet Shop Boys in Daniel, Esq.'s above list w/Joy Division and Steely Dan

in the end i think Prince would slightly edge out Steely Dan

I'm guessing "most divisive" would be some good old-fashioned British indie, like, say Slowdive

Yeah, I can certainly believe Joy Division and Steely Dan.

I was also about to say The Cure or Depeche Mode, then hedged a bit.

We've done this before - it's either Kraftwerk or New Order but the Beatles contingent has grown, ditto the Kate Bush contingent. Steely Dan are a minority concern really and Prince would considerably outstrip them.

matt DC otm - kraftwerk, prince & new order way out in front. plus beatles haters seem more vocal than plentiful. talking heads, kate bush, can (?), p-funk also strong contenders.

numerous pet shop boys mentions somewhat baffling. i get the impression that they're mostly a uk thing, and not much loved by those who aren't true believers.

what if just one person loved a specific band so much that it didnt matter how anyone else felt about it

numerous pet shop boys mentions somewhat baffling. i get the impression that they're mostly a uk thing, and not much loved by those who aren't true believers.

Troll the archives, and read the responses.

You also suggest that only UK fans are true believers.

didn't mean "uk only", if that helps. i dunno. they didn't fare all that well in the recent 80s poll - relative to like new order, kate bush, smith, t heads, prince, etc. maybe very and behavior are the faves?

and maybe i'm biased cuz i don't much like the pet shop boys...

In my experience here there's a strong anti-Smiths contingent, whereas there's no anti-PSB faction, only fans with honest reservations.

i don't like the pet shop boys.
or the smiths.
or joy division.

i also didn't vote in the eighties poll, like hundreds of other ilxors.

it's true that my dislike of the pet shop boys is relatively mild, cuz i don't have to hear them very often. whereas i'm liable to fume about the smifs...

yeah I am more or less ambivalent about the psbs and can't imagine I'm the only one here

same

I generally don't go onto threads with bands that I don't like and post "I hate this band" (although I'm sure I've done it once or twice).

Man that guy Jackson is a freak.

it doesn't say who does everyone love, but who is most loved

PSB 2009 skeptics probably outweigh the 2002 passionates though

only natural.

I thought it was Daft Punk

We should poll this.

Keep it to "bands that you think are the most loved on ILM" rather than "I like this band a lot"...

Fleetwood Mac?
Steely Dan?
creedence
neil young
my bloody valentine
Sly and the Family Stone
Kraftwerk
Talking Heads
The Clash
New Order
public enemy
run-d.m.c.
Pet Shop Boys
the fall

.. don't mind me...

of those I can see a lot of ILXors disliking/not loving:

my bloody valentine
public enemy
run-d.m.c.
Pet Shop Boys
the fall

at least

Yeah, but this is all about the positivity.

Trouble is: As we can't do tickboxes, we can't poll this realistically. "Click all the ones you love" needs to be the way.

fleetwood mac

I've never read any hate for Kid Creole and the Coconuts on any of their threads, so they've got to be in the running.

good answer!

six people loving them and 5,000 being indifferent means they are less loved than a band 1,300 love and 2,000 hate passionately

It's all about the love:

You find they recorded an album in 19xx you didn't know, so you go straight to e-bay to track it down.

last.fm should give a decent approximation. My guess is radiohead

yeah, but "least divisive" was part of the question, too. looking for artists that that unite almost everybody without attracting much backlash. makes radiohead a bad bet.

strike one that

Fleetwood Mac - love, more than ever before.
Steely Dan - used to love, bit bored of them now.
Creedence - big gap in my musical knowledge with this lot.
Neil Young - love.
My Bloody Valentine - nothing wrong with them, but I am largely indifferent.
Sly and the Family Stone - love, but hardly ever play.
Kraftwerk - see Fleetwood Mac.
Talking Heads - see Steely Dan.
The Clash - it's complicated.
New Order - see Sly and the Family Stone.
Public Enemy - love.
Run DMC - like a lot, but stop short of love.
Pet Shop Boys - love, but only up to mid-90s.
The Fall - respect, but not love.

Fleetwood Mac: Largely indifferent, although I love "Tango In The Night". Close to dislike for their Peter Green era material (apart from "Albatross" and "Man Of The World")
Steely Dan: Love them
creedence: Again rather indifferent
neil young: Love his output from "Harvest" and earlier. Quite indifferent towards the rest.
my bloody valentine: Don't like much at all
Sly and the Family Stone: I don't love, but I like
Kraftwerk: Lots of respect for these guys, even though there are better synthpop bands from the 80s
Talking Heads: Kind of indifferent although they were at times very good
The Clash: Love "London Calling"
New Order: OK
public enemy: Hard for me to like these people. :)
run-d.m.c.: Ditto (and I hate them more than I do PE)
Pet Shop Boys: Love
the fall: Pretty close to hate

Fleetwood Mac - love
Steely Dan - love, but not unreservedly
Creedence - love
Neil Young - love
My Bloody Valentine - I've tried numerous times to get into them, but just can't.
Sly and the Family Stone - enjoy, but don't own
Kraftwerk - haven't heard except Tour de France (love) and Pocket Calc (hate)
Talking Heads - I like Sand in the Vaseline, but get bored with the albums.
The Clash - Hate with my heart.
New Order - enjoy the singles, but purchasing Technique on the basis of the 80s poll leads me to think they're overrated
Public Enemy - see MBV
Run DMC - enjoy, but not enough to invest in an album
Pet Shop Boys - have never heard, barring WEG.
The Fall - Dislike based on This Nation's Saving Grace.

Fleetwood Mac - indifferent.
Steely Dan - again
Creedence - Bought a 2LP compil in a fit of pleased, played it, didn't like it enough.
Neil Young - I actively avoid. Too much to go through if I found I liked him. Have heard enough to know I don't.
My Bloody Valentine - Loveless.
Sly and the Family Stone - Some.
Kraftwerk - Mainly the early stuff.
Talking Heads - unfussed.
The Clash - Like, just less as much.
New Order - PCL, and so on
Public Enemy - never happened for me.
Run DMC - Some, but not.
Pet Shop Boys - A couple. but a couple is all you need.
The Fall - Loads of different eras.

Stevie Wonder? Of course I'm sure there's a very strong dissenter or two.

Scooter?

Fleetwood Mac - hate
Steely Dan - hate
Creedence - ambivalent/ignorant
Neil Young - hate
My Bloody Valentine - like on record, love live
Sly and the Family Stone - LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE
Kraftwerk - intensely bored by/don't understand appeal
Talking Heads - like, mildly
The Clash - dislike, mildly
New Order - intensely bored by/don't understand appeal
Public Enemy - like, mildly
Run DMC - like, mildly
Pet Shop Boys - dislike, intensely
The Fall - like/ignorant/would like to explore more

Brian Eno seems to get a lot of love here, whether it's for his early glam/rock stuff or the later ambient works.

I prefer to think of Eno's glam/rock as his "works" and his ambient phase as his "stuff". Not that I like any of it, really.

acts i can't see anyone hating on:

curtis mayfield
fela kuti
parliament/funkadelic
kraftwerk
aphex twin
herbie hancock
can
the roots
sonic youth
madlib

I added some bands at the end:

Fleetwood Mac - not really my cup of tea but ok
Steely Dan - they had some great moments but overall I don't like their slick sound
Creedence - love them in moderation, love the rough sound
Neil Young - more or less unconditional love
My Bloody Valentine - used to be fascinated by them, love is not the right word
Sly and the Family Stone - don't really now but I am more and more getting into funk & soul
Kraftwerk - from Autobahn on they bored me to death, love the early Kraftwerk incarnation with rother
Talking Heads - love the early stuff, don't like remain in light at all
The Clash - don't care at all
New Order - love the first album and some of the singles, most albums are full of filler though
Public Enemy - rap is not my cup of tea
Run DMC - see above
Pet Shop Boys - no love, their music is nice, that's all
The Fall - like some, don't care for most stuff
Beatles - lots of love, only listen to them by chance though, had my share
Cocteau Twins - used to love their sound, have grown out of it
Joy Division - love and only love
Kinks - don't know them too well, love some stuff i have heard, like other stuff
Massive Attack - in love with their records, their music doesn't work live though
Pixies - love them for their punch
Portishead - in love with their sound and her voice
Radiohead - the love is fading
Rolling Stones - if they had stopped making music 20 years ago I would love them more, they are ok though
Roxy Music - love for everything up to Avalon
Smiths - probably my most beloved band
Sonic Youth - love them still but they should think about calling it quits
Talk Talk - a pretty new love (only about 5 years old) which is almost as strong as my smiths love
Velvet Underground - love
Yo La Tengo - a great love which is not as great as it used to be ten years ago

acts i can't see anyone hating on

My answer for this is always T-REX

The annex, then:

Beatles - Grew up with them, now my kids are growing through them...
Cocteau Twins - Never did.
Joy Division - Like them more now then I did then.
Kinks - Got a 10CD box (see related thread), like them a fair bit.
Massive Attack - Some records, yeah.
Pixies - Tried to, failed.
Portishead - Tried to, succeeded!
Radiohead - Not as much as you lot (is that even possible?)
Rolling Stones - The later Decca stuff
Roxy Music - First few singles...
Smiths - Grew up with them, don't need them now, but ...
Sonic Youth - boat unfloated.
Talk Talk - Still amazed about the levels of love they get.
Velvet Underground - love
Yo La Tengo - No opinion, I know not.

Beatles - Love, love, love, love and love! But a lot of people here don't.
Cocteau Twins - Indifferent, if it's even possible to be indifferent towards them.
Joy Division - Like New Order much better. Dislike Ian Curtis' voice.
Kinks - Love their 60s output. Should have broken up in 1970 or thereabouts.
Massive Attack - Like quite a lot, and wouldn't really dispute them. Perhaps my favourite "hip hop" act.
Pixies - Indifferent minus
Portishead - Indifferent
Radiohead - Love "OK Computer" and "The Bends", a bit more indifferent towards their 00s output
Rolling Stones - They're OK. Even more recent stuff is.
Roxy Music - Love their later material, the earlier stuff I like less, but it is interesting and grows on me.
Smiths - Close to love for their last two albums, but the earlier stuff I don't really like all that much.
Sonic Youth - Hate
Talk Talk - Love some of their albums, but not the same albums that most people here do.
Velvet Underground - Love the occasional song, hate other material, and am a bit indifferent towards most.
Yo La Tengo - Indifferent
Stevie Wonder - Really love his music, and I suppose a lot of other people here do too. I mean, if we can forgive him for "I Just Called To Say I Love You". :)

Fleetwood Mac - Like a lot
Steely Dan - True, deep, everlasting love
Creedence - you must be crazy. If I want to listen to bad Howlin Wolf impersonations I will play Captain Beefheart and sing along
Neil Young - Like a lot
My Bloody Valentine - a bit noisy but 'You Made Me Realise' is quite good
Sly And The Family Stone - Passionate love
Kraftwerk - Love
Talking Heads - Loved but bitter divorce at time of 'Little Creatures'
The Clash - Love with ambivalence
New Order - Huge Love
Public Enemy -Oh for fuck's sake who doesn't love ITANOMTHUB, but come on now, listen to How You Sell Soul To A Soulless People Who Sold Their Soul 5 times and then come back here and tell me about love
Run DMC - Love
Pet Shop Boys - Love
The Fall - Love

PS I'm not trying to start trouble but often it appears that there is boundless love here for The Cure. I Like The Cure.

sorry Nick i really hate TRex

I forgot the Cure! Lots of love up until "Wish". But I don't really need them anymore.

I love New Order more than it possible to love a band therefore New Order are the most loved.

My Bloody Valentine - like on record, love live

This would explain a lot.

do tell.

I guess I don't understand the topic title. Does it include bands you loved up to a certain point or album? If so, lots of people feel the same about the Stones, Bryan Ferry, Al Green, George Clinton, Pet Shop Boys, New Order, and a dozen others.

do tell.

Unable to now hear properly?

eh? speak up.

Srsly though, I love MBV as much as the next man (unless that man is Raggett) but live I do think one might be missing some of the more subtle nuances...

wouldn't argue with that, but their live bludgeon is sufficiently potent that I don't miss the nuance too much.

mbv are obviously a studio band. there is a reason that it took them years to record "loveless". live they were rather dull in the early nineties judging from the one concert i attended in the ancienne belgique in brussels.

Beatles - "Love" barely begins to cover it.
Cocteau Twins - Likeable enough, in small doses. A little goes a long way.
Joy Division - Used to love, but over-exposure means that I could cheerfully never hear them again.
Kinks - Love some of the hits, but no emotional attachment to the actual band.
Massive Attack - Used to love, but I've gone right off them.
Pixies - A hair's breadth away from love.
Portishead - Like a lot. Wish I could say love, but in all honesty I can't. It's not them, it's me.
Radiohead - Used to love, but not even In Rainbows has arrested the diminishing returns.
Rolling Stones - Love.
Roxy Music - Admire greatly, but have never quite crossed the "love" line.
Smiths - *** LOVE ***
Sonic Youth - Like a lot, in an abstract, theoretical way - but in practice I rarely listen.
Talk Talk - Never got round to investigating them properly.
Velvet Underground - Used to love, bit bored of them these days.
Yo La Tengo - Like, occasionally like a lot.
The Cure - Love the first album, love the first ten years' worth of singles, never got into subsequent albums. Love them when they're pop, basically.

xp mbv are obviously a studio band?

given that they play live and do it exceptionally well, I'd say that they're obviously adept both in the studio and on stage.

Fleetwood Mac - some of the peter green stuff is dope! ok i haven't given rumours/tusk a fair crack, need to
Steely Dan - i don't dislike the dan, and what i've heard has had some stellar moments, but again i'm yet to make a commitment, suspect i'd eventually like them
Creedence - permit me to plead ignorance
Neil Young - hmm. not really my thing for the most part, a few songs here and there strike a chord
My Bloody Valentine - loveless is a titanic, thrilling work
Sly and the Family Stone - this stuff washes over me a bit when listened to in private but it certainly makes for some of the better party music
Kraftwerk - like in theory (although not love); i've not heard much, and will doubtless give them more of a listen in future
Talking Heads - they get great sounds! great little textural patterns. but their songs are structured in a manner calculated to bore me
The Clash - they have a time and a place and they piss me off as much as they cheer me; london calling and a few of the early singles are great
New Order - don't get the outright adoration at all
Public Enemy - need to explore
Run DMC - maybe need to explore but not so mandatory
Pet Shop Boys - uh they're ok
The Fall - BEST FECKING BAND EVER (almost)...absolute, joyful, unconditional love
Beatles - awesome, awesome, awesome. love 'em.
Cocteau Twins - quite good
Joy Division - shamefully i haven't listened to these guys all that much; will correct. from what i've heard i'd like 'em ok
Kinks - quite a lot of classic tunes in there
Massive Attack - first record is kinda boring, second has 'protection', third is truly wonderful, rest i don't know/care
Pixies - not sure. part of me thinks they could have done more with their talents, part of me realises they didn't need to
Portishead - yeah, great
Radiohead - yeah, really great
Rolling Stones - not great. sorry. no love for the family name and all that
Roxy Music - love this band
Smiths - do. not. get.
Sonic Youth - i dig most of what i've heard without letting them fully in just yet, but yeah a thumbs-up from me
Talk Talk - fucking brilliant for two records. then they got way better. unfuckwithable.
Velvet Underground - eh they released some great stuff
Yo La Tengo - some good songs, a lot of murk
The Cure - YES <3

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Fleetwood Mac - Somewhat like
Steely Dan - This thread made me curious so I had too look them up. Not impressed
Creedence - Dislike
Neil Young - Mostly indifferent
My Bloody Valentine - Like a lot, but more in theory than in practice.
Sly And The Family Stone - They're OK.
Kraftwerk - Love
Talking Heads - Like for the most part
The Clash - Love
New Order - I really, really love 3 or 4 songs. Mostly indifferent to the rest.
Public Enemy - Like
Run DMC - Like
Pet Shop Boys - Loved up to mid 90's
The Fall - I've barely listened to them. Not bad I guess.

not much agreement with my Stevie Wonder suggestion. :'(

I guess I'm a pretty passive guy since I have at least a bit of like for everyone mentioned here.

eno & wire i think are (rightly)pretty highly regarded, in general. maybe not as much as the cure, which baffles me...
i don't like the Peter Green version of FM at all

miles davis? coltrane? duke ellington? i dunno figure some canon jazz thing would be hard for anyone to h8 on

Totally forgot to think of jazz artists in response to this question. Those are all good calls.

I'd add Charles Mingus.

what about pavement? together with sonic youth they are the indie boy's dream band i reckon.

maybe duke ellington because i'm assuming he is enough of a proper "composer" and "melodic" enough to even jibe with geir's bizarro worldview...just speculating though....will the notorious g.e.i.r. weigh in here pls?

I'm the anti-ILM poster, at least by most people's tastes. I don't care for, dislike or loathe the following: Miles Davis, Kraftwerk, The Fall, Pavement and Fleetwood Mac.

which ones do you loathe?

Don't care for: I like one Fleetwood Mac song ("Tusk") and one Fall tune ("Cruiser's Creek"). Dislike: Kraftwerk bore me into aggravation and except for the late 60s quintet Davis will drive me from a room. Loathe: Pavement - despite liking them in '91, the live show I went to was so egregiously bad and they showed such disdain for their paying audience that I would be hard pressed to refrain from taking a swing at Malkmus were he in my presence. The attitude displayed live seemed present on Crooked Rain and I've never bothered to go further.

Who hates ELO? I love this band, if you don't love them, I kill you. It's as simple as that.

What about ABBA? You don't like them? I beat you over the head.

abba and elo are the worst, crappiest, shittiest bands in the world. god they were vile, the 70s.

oh!
(about the fact that loving beatles & disliking elo is possible)

Fleetwood Mac - LIKE
Steely Dan - LIKE
Creedence - LOVE
Neil Young - LIKE
My Bloody Valentine - DON'T CARE
Sly and the Family Stone - LOVE
Kraftwerk - LIKE
Talking Heads - LOVE
The Clash - LIKE (verging on don't care)
New Order - DON'T CARE
Public Enemy - LOVE
Run DMC - LIKE (verging on love)
Pet Shop Boys - DISLIKE
The Fall - LOVE
Curtis Mayfield - LOVE
Fela Kuti - LOVE
Parliament-Funkadelic - LOVE
Aphex Twin - DON'T CARE
Herbie Hancock - LIKE
Can - LOVE
The Roots - DON'T CARE
Madlib - DON'T CARE
Beatles - LOVE
Cocteau Twins - DISLIKE
Joy Division - DON'T CARE
Kinks - LIKE
Massive Attack - LIKE
Pixies - LOVE
Portishead - DISLIKE
Radiohead - LIKE (but just as often dislike)
Rolling Stones - LOVE
Roxy Music - LOVE
Smiths - DISLIKE (verging on hate)
Sonic Youth - LOVE
Talk Talk - DON'T CARE
Velvet Underground - LOVE
Yo La Tengo - LIKE
Brian Eno - LOVE
Stevie Wonder - LOVE
T-Rex - LOVE
ELO - LOVE
Abba - LOVE

I'm sure a lot of people on here love Brian Eno, but there is something to be said for non-conformity.

Lol contenderizer, my faves are the ones you dislike.

What's to dislike about the Pet Shop Boys before 1993?

actually i used to love abba and elo in the 70s. abba before "dancing queen". but that was my teenage self which didn't know better. i mean elo is so fucking overorchestrated. IT'S JUST TOO MUCH.

Fleetwood Mac - LIKE
Steely Dan - LIKE
Creedence - LIKE
Neil Young - DON"T CARE
My Bloody Valentine - LOVE
Sly and the Family Stone - DON'T CARE
Kraftwerk - LIKE
Talking Heads - LOVE
The Clash - LIKE
New Order - LOVE
Public Enemy - DON'T CARE
Run DMC - DON'T CARE
Pet Shop Boys - LOVE
The Fall - DON'T CARE
Curtis Mayfield - DON'T CARE
Fela Kuti - LIKE
Parliament-Funkadelic - LIKE
Aphex Twin - DON'T CARE
Herbie Hancock - LIKE
Can - DON'T CARE
The Roots - DON'T CARE
Madlib - DON'T CARE
Beatles - LOVE
Cocteau Twins - LOVE
Joy Division - LIKE
Kinks - LIKE (verging on don't care)
Massive Attack - LIKE
Pixies - LIKE
Portishead - LOVE
Radiohead - LOVE
Rolling Stones - LIKE (verging on don't care)
Roxy Music - LOVE (but indifferent to a lot their output)
Smiths - LIKE
Sonic Youth - LIKE
Talk Talk - LOVE
Velvet Underground - DON'T CARE
Yo La Tengo - DON'T CARE
Brian Eno - LIKE (maybe even Love) the Ambient stuff, DISLIKE the rock-ish stuff
Stevie Wonder - LIKE
T-Rex - DON'T CARE
ELO - LIKE (Alex's post prompted me to tone this down from "Love")
Abba - LOVE

how the hell did madlib get into this discussion?

filling the gaps:
Curtis Mayfield - love
Fela Kuti - like
Parliament-Funkadelic - don't get
Aphex Twin - like
Herbie Hancock - okay
Can - love some, lots of stuff annoys me though
The Roots - don't know
Madlib - don't know
Pavement - between like and love
Brian Eno - love most, some of the minimal, ambient stuff leaves me cold though
Stevie Wonder - like
T-Rex - love some, like some, don't care for most
ELO - can't stand anymore
Abba - can't stand anymore

Fleetwood Mac - DON'T CARE
Steely Dan - DON'T CARE
Creedence - LIKE
Neil Young - DON'T CARE
My Bloody Valentine - DON'T CARE
Sly and the Family Stone - LIKE
Kraftwerk - LIKE
Talking Heads - LIKE
The Clash - LIKE
New Order - DON'T CARE EXCEPT FOR BLUE MONDAY
Public Enemy - LIKE
Run DMC - LIKE (verging on don't care)
Pet Shop Boys - LIKE (verging on don't care)
The Fall - DON'T CARE
Curtis Mayfield - LOVE X 2
Fela Kuti - DON'T KNOW
Parliament-Funkadelic - LIKE
Aphex Twin - LIKE
Herbie Hancock - LIKE
Can - DON'T KNOW
The Roots - LIKE
Madlib - LIKE
Beatles - LOVE
Cocteau Twins - DISLIKE
Joy Division - LIKE
Kinks - LIKE
Massive Attack - LIKE (verging on love)
Pixies - LIKE
Portishead - LOVE
Radiohead - LOVE
Rolling Stones - LIKE
Roxy Music - DON'T CARE
Smiths - DISLIKE
Sonic Youth - LOVE
Talk Talk - DON'T KNOW
Velvet Underground - LIKE
Yo La Tengo - DON'T KNOW
Brian Eno - DON'T CARE
Stevie Wonder - LIKE
T-Rex - LIKE (verging on don't care)
ELO - LIKE
Abba - LIKE

i should have differentiated between my don't cares and my don't knows (there were a lot more of the latter).

plus it makes me sad that alex's love for abba and ELO has died. :'( tinkerbell is doomed.

I guess I'm a pretty passive guy since I have at least a bit of like for everyone mentioned here.

^^^ This. There very few acts I'm unreservedly in love with (the first 7 Roxy Music albums) many I have heard a lot by and like (Fleetwood Mac, CCR, Neil Young) and a bunch more I haven't really heard enough of to comment (Can, Fall, Sonic Youth.)

Although the lists are getting kinda long/unwieldy/arbitrary, I think they are an ineresting snapshot of the ILM mind.

who is going to add up the love votes? i have the feeling the fab four are in front.

plus it makes me sad that alex's love for abba and ELO has died.

wow how is Prince not in that long list of acts that are supposedly "the most loved on ILM"?

because it's not a short list?

prince - between like and don't care

most pointless ILM thread ever

haha i generally agree but "most pointless thread ever" is a bold claim

Was gonna say, there's some stiff competition.

I would say I love Cure, ABBA and ELO, while I also like me some T.Rex.

not much agreement with my Stevie Wonder suggestion. :'(

I guess I'm a pretty passive guy since I have at least a bit of like for everyone mentioned here.

Stevie Wonder is a good call I think. Yeah, I haven't spotted anyone I dislike either. Well, not yet.

I'm sure a lot of people on here love Brian Eno, but there is something to be said for non-conformity.

xpost - start making sense

Fleetwood Mac - good in parts
Steely Dan - good in parts
creedence - awesome
neil young - dislike his singing voice enough that I can't listen to his records
my bloody valentine - great
Sly and the Family Stone - good in parts
Kraftwerk - awesome, apart from weak recent material
Talking Heads - good, but a little bit goes a long way
The Clash - the worst british band ever
New Order - awesome
public enemy - awesome
run-d.m.c. - great
Pet Shop Boys - ok-ish
the fall - great

i'm lovin my basket case of a thread! thanks everyone--i guess there's no use in creating an epic poll of the unanimous faves since the question was posed to get people's idea of consensus, not personal faves. still, this is one fugly beauty of a thread, folks!!

Getting a bit unwieldy here.

Fleetwood Mac - yeah sure
Steely Dan - don't care
Creedence - great
Neil Young - okay
My Bloody Valentine - love
Sly and the Family Stone - don't care
Kraftwerk - love lots
Talking Heads - like
The Clash - okay
New Order - love beyond all reason
Public Enemy - ok
Run DMC - meh
Pet Shop Boys - like, i guess
The Fall - love love love
Curtis Mayfield - like
Fela Kuti - no opinion
Parliament-Funkadelic - ok
Aphex Twin - ok
Herbie Hancock - nah
Can - like
The Roots - unfamiliar
Madlib - nah
Beatles - like lots
Cocteau Twins - like, but still unfamiliar
Joy Division - love a bit less than i used to
Kinks - like
Massive Attack - ok
Pixies - love
Portishead - love
Radiohead - like lots, admire but don't love
Rolling Stones - like sometimes
Roxy Music - don't care
Smiths - love
Sonic Youth - love
Talk Talk - still unfamiliar
Velvet Underground - love sometimes
Yo La Tengo - ok
Brian Eno - it's a wash
Stevie Wonder - don't care
T-Rex - would probably like
ELO - don't care
Abba - really don't care

what about Len?

Prince - LOVELOVELOVELOVELOVE

what the hell

Fleetwood Mac - LOVE
Steely Dan - OK
Creedence - LOVE
Neil Young - LOVE
My Bloody Valentine - Good
Sly and the Family Stone - LOVE
Kraftwerk - LOVE
Talking Heads - LOVE
The Clash - LIKE
New Order - LOVE
Public Enemy - LOVE
Run DMC - LIKE
Pet Shop Boys - HATE THIS AWFUL SHIT WTF ILM
The Fall - LOVE
Curtis Mayfield - LOVE
Fela Kuti - LOVE
Parliament-Funkadelic - LOVE
Aphex Twin - LOVE
Herbie Hancock - LOVE
Can - LOVE
The Roots - don't care
Madlib - don't care
Beatles - LOVE
Cocteau Twins - LOVE
Joy Division - LOVE
Kinks - LOVE
Massive Attack - OK
Pixies - OK verging on dislike
Portishead - LIKE
Radiohead - uninterested
Rolling Stones - LOVE
Roxy Music - LOVE
Smiths - LIKE
Sonic Youth - LOVE
Talk Talk - LIKE
Velvet Underground - LOVE
Yo La Tengo - LIKE
Brian Eno - LOVE
Stevie Wonder - LOVE
T-Rex - LOVE
ELO - LIKE
Abba - dislike

Fleetwood Mac - ★★★★★
Steely Dan - ★★★★
Creedence - ★★★★
Neil Young - ★★★★
My Bloody Valentine - ★★★★★
Sly and the Family Stone - ★★★★
Kraftwerk - ★★★★★
Talking Heads - ★★★★★
The Clash - ★★★★★
New Order - ★★★★
Public Enemy - ★★★★
Run DMC - ★★★★
Pet Shop Boys - ★★★
The Fall - ★★★★★
Curtis Mayfield - ★★★★★
Fela Kuti - ★★★★★
Parliament-Funkadelic - ★★★★
Aphex Twin - ★★★★★
Herbie Hancock - ★★★★
Can - ★★★★★
The Roots - ★★★★
Madlib - ★★★★★
Beatles - ★★★★
Cocteau Twins - ★★★★
Joy Division - ★★★★
Kinks - ★★★★★
Massive Attack - ★★★★★
Pixies - ★★★★★
Portishead - ★★★★★
Radiohead - ★★★★★
Rolling Stones - ★★★★★
Roxy Music - ★★★★
Smiths - ★★★★
Sonic Youth - ★★★★★
Talk Talk - ★★★★
Velvet Underground - ★★★★★
Yo La Tengo - ★★★★★
Brian Eno - ★★★★
Stevie Wonder - ★★★★
T-Rex - ★★★★★
ELO - ★★★★
Abba - ★★★

At one point or another I keep falling in and out of love of all of these bands. Only ABBA and Pet Shop Boys are prolly too much centered round gay demographic for my taste.

OK, this list part three:

Brian Eno - Borrowed "Another Green World", liked that Arena track (but if that's not "Trains and Boats and Planes..." the rest? no.
Stevie Wonder - Love "Fulfillingness", not keen on his ballad stuff. But, respect, you know...
T-Rex - Ah, well. I met him, you know...
ELO - NoNoNo they are not the SAME AS THE BEATLES! sheesh.
Abba - Plz leev.

Curtis Mayfield -like
Fela Kuti - love! love love love!
Parliament-Funkadelic - equal parts love and boredom
Aphex Twin - like, verging on love at times
Herbie Hancock - like, verging on love at times
Can - love! love love love!
The Roots - ambivalent
Madlib - never knowingly heard
Beatles - love the white album and abbey road, mixed feelings about the rest
Cocteau Twins - never heard
Joy Division - ambivalent
Kinks - like, in a passive way
Massive Attack - only like the mezzanine-era stuff
Pixies - like, mildly
Portishead - like, verging on love
Radiohead - used to love; that ship has sailed
Rolling Stones - repulsive
Roxy Music - like, but ignorant. would like to know more
Smiths - no no no no
Sonic Youth - equal parts love and boredom
Talk Talk - ambivalent
Velvet Underground - equal parts love and boredom
Yo La Tengo - never knowingly heard
Brian Eno - like, would like to know more
Stevie Wonder - love funky '70s stevie
T-Rex - like, passively
ELO - OH GOD NO
Abba - OH GOD NO

Fleetwood Mac - LOVE
Steely Dan - Love
Creedence - LOVE
Neil Young - LOVE
My Bloody Valentine - Good
Sly and the Family Stone - LOVE
Kraftwerk - LOVE
Talking Heads - LOVE
The Clash - LIKE
New Order - LOVE
Public Enemy - LOVE
Run DMC - LIKE
Pet Shop Boys - HATE THIS AWFUL SHIT WTF ILM
The Fall - LOVE
Curtis Mayfield - LOVE
Fela Kuti - LOVE
Parliament-Funkadelic - LOVE
Aphex Twin - LOVE
Herbie Hancock - LOVE
Can - LOVE
The Roots - don't care
Madlib - don't care
Beatles - LOVE
Cocteau Twins - LOVE
Joy Division - LOVE
Kinks - LOVE
Massive Attack - OK
Pixies - OK verging on dislike
Portishead - LIKE
Radiohead - uninterested
Rolling Stones - LOVE
Roxy Music - LOVE
Smiths - LIKE
Sonic Youth - LOVE
Talk Talk - LIKE
Velvet Underground - LOVE
Yo La Tengo - LIKE
Brian Eno - LOVE
Stevie Wonder - LOVE
T-Rex - LOVE
ELO - LIKE
Abba - dislike

Shit that was posted in error-it's a copy and paste of a prev list that I was going to personlise.

Can a mod delete xpost?

how could i forget

elvis costello & the motherfucking attractions

Oh no, Elvis Costello is quite hated on ILM.

Fleetwood Mac - love a few songs, ambivalent to the rest
Steely Dan - love
Creedence - don't care
Neil Young - love
My Bloody Valentine - love loveless, like everything else
Sly and the Family Stone - LOVE
Kraftwerk - love in very small doses
Talking Heads - LOVE
The Clash - don't care
New Order - love a few songs, hate the rest
Public Enemy - like
Run DMC - like (bordering on dislike)
Pet Shop Boys - this sucks
The Fall - need to get into this band more
Curtis Mayfield - omfg love
Fela Kuti - omfg love
Parliament-Funkadelic - omfg love til about 79, dislike after apart from a few tunes
Aphex Twin - like
Herbie Hancock - love
Can - omfg love
The Roots - love
Madlib - love
Beatles - like
Cocteau Twins - love in extremely small doses (like poisonous blowfish)
Joy Division - love unknown plesures, like closer
Kinks - don't care
Massive Attack - they're ok
Pixies - dislike
Portishead - like
Radiohead - love
Rolling Stones - like
Roxy Music - like
Smiths - on the border between like/love
Sonic Youth - LOVE
Talk Talk - like
Velvet Underground - like
Yo La Tengo - like
Brian Eno - love the rock albums, indifferent to the ambient stuff
Stevie Wonder - love
T-Rex - don't care
ELO - wtf basura
Abba - wtf no homo

but but surely we all love this year's model?

Speak for yourself

Ah, well. I met him, you know...

Over 32 at least

so i could have met him too. all the girls at school were totally nuts for him in the mid-seventies.

Herbie Hancock - ★★
Cocteau Twins - ★
Smiths - ★★
ELO - ★
Abba - ★★

i like the rest

Over 32 at least

― Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 11:20 (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

At least, yes...

http://www.borntoboogie.net/marctv/pages/dvd3.htm

.. for the story.

Sweet

... the story that is... not the band... they are not the most loved band on ILM, though they deserve it more than most mentioned on this thread

Okay, here's my actual run down:

Fleetwood Mac - LOVE(Rumors to Tango In The Nights LPs)
Steely Dan - Like A Lot (but only for Aja LP)
Creedence - No knowledge
Neil Young - No real knowledge but respectful from a distance
My Bloody Valentine - Still need to understand
Sly and the Family Stone - Like
Kraftwerk - LOVE
Talking Heads - LOVE
The Clash - Used to Love, now Like A lot
New Order - Like A Lot
Public Enemy - Used to Love, but Respect and Lots of Like
Run DMC - LIKE
Pet Shop Boys - Used to Love, but Respect and Lots of Like
The Fall - No real knowledge but respectful from a distance
Curtis Mayfield - Like
Fela Kuti - LOVE
Parliament-Funkadelic - Like
Aphex Twin - Used to Love, but Respect and Lots of Like
Herbie Hancock - Used to Love, but Respect and Lots of Like (have a signed copy of "Headhunters" signed by Herbie to me
Can - Like
The Roots - Like what I know
Madlib - don't know
Beatles - ambivlent, but respect
Cocteau Twins - LOVE what I know
Joy Division - Respect and Like
Kinks - dont care
Massive Attack - OK
Pixies - No real knowledge but respectful from a distance
Portishead - LIKE
Radiohead - uninterested
Rolling Stones - Like
Roxy Music - Ok
Smiths - OK
Sonic Youth - Like
Talk Talk - Ok
Velvet Underground - Like
Yo La Tengo - LIKE
Brian Eno - LOVE
Stevie Wonder - Like
T-Rex - don't know
ELO - don't know
Abba - Like

Guys who are posting this list of middlebrow Starbucks coffee table music and giving your own one-word reviews: do you realize that no one is reading?

Filling in the gaps, on the assumption that some stats geek is counting:

Curtis Mayfield - BIG love.
Fela Kuti - Even BIGGER love.
Parliament-Funkadelic - It pains me to admit this, but Clinton has never quite done it for me.
Aphex Twin - Am I the only ILM-er never to have heard the Selected Ambient Works? Some utter brilliance, and a whole lot of aargh-my-ears-make-it-stop.
Herbie Hancock - Respect, but love would be over-stating it.
Can - An ever-growing love.
The Roots - Some good stuff, but I can take them or leave them.
Madlib - Don't know.
Brian Eno - Love his interviews, don't often love his music, but I had an AHA NOW I GET THIS breakthrough moment with Another Green World a couple of months ago, so love might still be in the offing.
Stevie Wonder - Love Love Love!
T-Rex - Love the singles, don't need the albums.
ELO - See T.Rex.
Abba - Love, but we're on a break.

I like lots of these acts individually, depending on the song, but put them together as a group like this and I hate them all

The answer to this is surely Can?

i'm a stats geek, i'm really enjoying this

have i been on ilm long enough for my vote to count?

How did Moka and Abanana do those cool-looking stars?

James Brown coulda been a contender.

don't care, i'm doing it anyway

Fleetwood Mac - shrug
Steely Dan - shrug
Creedence - meh
Neil Young - HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE
My Bloody Valentine - LIKE A GOD TO ME
Sly and the Family Stone - shrug
Kraftwerk - LOVE
Talking Heads - depends on era
The Clash - depends on era
New Order - LIKE A GOD TO ME
Public Enemy - shrug
Run DMC - shrug
Pet Shop Boys - shrug
The Fall - HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE
Curtis Mayfield - shrug
Fela Kuti - shrug
Parliament-Funkadelic - LOVE
Aphex Twin - BOW TO ME I AM YOUR GOD WORSHIP & OBEY
Herbie Hancock - shrug
Can - LIKE A GOD TO ME
The Roots - shrug
Madlib - shrug
Beatles - depends on era
Cocteau Twins - LOVE
Joy Division - like
Kinks - like
Massive Attack - like
Pixies - depends on era
Portishead - like
Radiohead - like
Rolling Stones - depends on era
Roxy Music - depends on era
Smiths - shrug
Sonic Youth - depends on era
Talk Talk - shrug
Velvet Underground - LOVE
Yo La Tengo - shrug
Brian Eno - LOVE
Stevie Wonder - shrug
T-Rex - like
ELO - shrug
Abba - HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE LIKE THE DEVIL

Miles Davis - Love
Duke Ellington - Like
John Coltrane - Love
James Brown - Like (A Lot)
Ornette Coleman - Like
Charles Mingus - Like
Hot Chip - Like
Lindstrom - Love
Annie - Like
Gucci Mane - Hate
Mariah Carey - like
Beastie Boys - Like

middlebrow Starbucks coffee table music

There was a Sonic Youth Starbucks compilation I guess.

Never been in a Starbucks but what's so strange about them playing Roxy Music??!!!???

"Guys who are posting this list of middlebrow Starbucks coffee table music and giving your own one-word reviews: do you realize that no one is reading?"

Several xpost: i'm reading them ( slow day for me today )

i was once stuck in a starbucks for nearly an hour with this deliberately "odd" glitchy remix of a radiohead song playing on seemingly endless repeat (couldn't leave was waiting for someone)

it was the closest i've ever come to killing someone over music in my life

mind you, it could have just been caffeine psychosis i had been up for 3 days at that point

Worse music I ever heard in a cafe was some godawful Frank Zappa thing

Burnt Weeny Sandwich?

No, that's good! Oh, I see...

You were supposed to say "no, egg and chips". Could we do it again?

No, "Lumpy Gravy"

How can you be stuck in a Starbucks if you were there an hour? Unless someone drove you.

Guys who are posting this list of middlebrow Starbucks coffee table music and giving your own one-word reviews: do you realize that no one is reading?

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 12:44 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Including that message?

I hear lots of good music in Starbucks these days: early New Order, B-52's, A Certain Ratio, Joni Mitchell, Coltrane just last weekend.

B-52s - Love

Never been in a Starbucks but what's so strange about them playing Roxy Music??!!!???

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maybe i should seriously consider going to starbucks. joni mitchell, coltrane and b-52s? that's cool.

dunno, last time I heard "War Inna Babylon" Max Romeo, was in a Starbucks.

I don't know about Germany, but Roxy Music were always pretty popular in the UK, before and after "Avalon"! (xpost)

Strongly Like = Deep familiarity and love for 3 or more records.
Like = Deep familiarity and love for under 3 records.
Neither Like nor Dislike = Enjoy some songs by artist, but don't listen to their records
Dislike = Don't listen to their records
Strongly Dislike = Would never ever listen to their records and hate most songs

Fleetwood Mac – Like
Steely Dan – Strongly Like
Creedence – Strongly Like
Neil Young – Strongly Like
My Bloody Valentine – Like
Sly and the Family Stone – Like
Kraftwerk – Neither Like nor Dislike
Talking Heads – Strongly Like
The Clash – Strongly Like
New Order – Like
Public Enemy – Like
Run DMC – Neither Like nor Dislike
Pet Shop Boys – Neither Like nor Dislike
The Fall – Like
Curtis Mayfield – Like
Fela Kuti – Like
Parliament/Funkadelic – Like
Aphex Twin – Dislike
Herbie Hancock – Neither Like nor Dislike
Can – Neither Like nor Dislike
The Roots – Neither Like nor Dislike
Madlib – Neither Like nor Dislike
The Beatles – Strongly Like
Cocteau Twins – Don’t Like
Joy Division – Like
The Kinks – Like
Massive Attack – Neither Like nor Dislike
The Pixies – Like
Radiohead – Strongly Like
The Rolling Stones – Strongly Like
Roxy Music – Strongly Like
The Smiths – Like
Sonic Youth – Strongly Like
Talk Talk – Dislike
Velvet Underground – Strongly Like
Yo La Tengo – Strongly Like
Brian Eno – Strongly Like
Stevie Wonder – Strongly Like
T Rex – Like
ELO – Strongly Dislike
Abba - Dislike

they are all amazing

Another part of the list? OK...

Curtis Mayfield – Respect but don't know much past the famous tracks.
Fela Kuti – Not really. More respect than like.
Parliament/Funkadelic – Like what I've heard.
Aphex Twin – Interested, but no more than that.
Herbie Hancock – Not really...
Can – Like a lot.
The Roots – Neither Like nor Dislike
Madlib – No idea.

7 or more love votes (faded loves are included):

11 Kraftwerk
11 Velvet Underground
10 Beatles
10 New Order
10 Radiohead
10 Sonic Youth
10 Talking Heads
8 Fleetwood Mac
8 My Bloody Valentine
7 Brian Eno
7 Can
7 Creedence Clearwater Revival
7 Curtis Mayfield
7 The Fall
7 Fela Kuti
7 Neil Young
7 Portishead
7 Roxy Music
7 Stevie Wonder

I am surprised for the missing love for The Smiths (6) and Talk Talk (4).

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I didn't see any love in any part of your list, Mark. Are you sure you are posting on the right board?

btw, "like a god to me" means love

in case you were wondering. i want those votes counted

Hello, you mean me there?

OK, I'll (re)post the loves.

i obv counted those as love, even the votes where people said they love some etc.

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yep.

My Bloody Valentine
Sly and the Family Stone
Kraftwerk
The Clash
New Order
The Fall
Can
The Beatles
Joy Division
The Kinks
The Rolling Stones
The Smiths
Velvet Underground
T Rex

Fleetwood Mac – OK but ILM's love for 'em is boring as hell
Steely Dan – I like them but I don't spend much time listening to them
Creedence – the bees knees
Neil Young – great
My Bloody Valentine – blah blah blah, no they were good, it must be said
Sly and the Family Stone – what's not to like?
Kraftwerk – love at first sight
Talking Heads – love some of their stuff, but left cold by most of it
The Clash – grew out of them when I was 16
New Order – haven't listened to them in ages, but obv. great
Public Enemy – respect and all that, but I'm not going to be listening to them too often
Run DMC – should listen to them again!
Pet Shop Boys – again, respect them and what they do but I've got better things to do
The Fall – loved them once upon a time
Curtis Mayfield – obv. great
Fela Kuti – like what I've heard but haven't heard that much
Parliament/Funkadelic – hard to beat really
Aphex Twin – never did much for me
Herbie Hancock – comme ci, comme ca
Can – crazy name, crazy guys, who can top 'em?
The Roots – have I heard them?
Madlib – ditto
The Beatles – twist (and shout) my arm and I will admit they were quite good in places
Cocteau Twins – never made much of an impression on me
Joy Division – great, but I haven't made any effort to listen to them in years
The Kinks – really great
Massive Attack – undoubtedly good
The Pixies – grew out of them
Radiohead – in one ear and out the other
The Rolling Stones – hard to argue against
Roxy Music – smashing!
The Smiths – cannot be arsed with this lot, though they were obv. talented
Sonic Youth – got bored with them eventually
Talk Talk – great
Velvet Underground – love that knows no bounds
Yo La Tengo – who?
Brian Eno – I <3 Bri
Stevie Wonder – The Genius
T Rex – the most fun you can have with your bellbottoms on
ELO – fun group
Abba - even more fun group

i actually counted the smiths as love, mark. kraftwerk too i think. should we do a poll with all acts with 5 and more votes?

No, you need to do a series of polls where you vote one out each week.

but the one act who gets voted out last is not necessarily the one which is most loved. it's just the one people find less annoying.

tom, is fun group a subset of love?

"Like", I'd say

the problem with polling this is that there are so many gradations of love/hate

should my LIKE A GOD TO ME count more than a vague shrug of not really being familiar with?

should a vague "used to love" have the same weight as HATE HATE HATE KILL WITH GUNS?

the only way to do this would be a weighted average. with write-in votes. and lots of maths

HATE HATE HATE KILL WITH GUNS has nothing to do with love so I think it should just be ignored in this context. The same goes for shrug. If we'd poll all acts with 5 or more love votes we would almost poll all suggested acts (except Run DMC, Massive Attack, Yo La Tengo, Herbie Hancock, Roots, Madlib, ELO and Abba!). The whole thing seems rather pointless as the usual suspects will win anyway.

bullshit, ilm hates black music

you're saying that hatred has nothing to do with love? this isn't a binary, it's a sliding greyscale. i mean if you're going to measure something as abstract as "love" you've got to quantify it somehow.

though perhaps hatred isn't the opposite of love wrt music - indifference is? can a big big love be cancelled out or balanced by dozens of shrugs?

a big love obviously cannot be cancelled by anything. it can only be boosted by other big loves.

right then i'm creating an army of sock puppets to make big big love with me

Is that a Fleetwood Mac big love or a Pixies big big love?

as long as it isn't a big mac love any love is a good love

Fleetwood Mac - Like, closer to indifferent for some of their stuff though
Steely Dan - never listened to them
Creedence - ditto
Neil Young – indifferent mostly, but haven't listened to that much
My Bloody Valentine – life-changingly wonderful when i first heard them, still love.
Sly and the Family Stone – never heard
Kraftwerk – never got into
Talking Heads – love love love
The Clash – mostly indifferent, but like a few songs.
New Order – indifferent, and would propose Blue Monday as the most overrated song of all time. love "Regret" though.
Public Enemy – love some tracks, but haven't listened to in a long time.
Run DMC – don't like.
Pet Shop Boys – generally indifferent, the odd moment here or there i suppose
The Fall – ditto
Curtis Mayfield – never heard
Fela Kuti – ditto
Parliament/Funkadelic – sort of ditto
Aphex Twin – Selected Ambient Works Vol. 2 = masterpiece, otherwise merely like
Herbie Hancock – never heard
Can – only heard tago mago, which i've never been able to get into
The Roots – phrenology is an ok album
Madlib – never heard
The Beatles – love
Cocteau Twins – love
Joy Division – half a dozen fantastic moments - "Disorder" and "Atmosphere" in particular - otherwise very overrated
The Kinks – don't like, apart from "Waterloo Sunset"
Massive Attack – like
The Pixies – love
Radiohead – love some stuff, merely like other stuff
The Rolling Stones – some good songs, but never obsessed over them
Roxy Music – love
The Smiths – love
Sonic Youth – don't like
Talk Talk – last two albums utter masterpieces - "New Grass", on a good day, quite possibly my favourite piece of music ever composed.
Velvet Underground – love
Yo La Tengo – never properly gave a wiggle
Brian Eno – like him as musician by himself, love some of his other associations
Stevie Wonder – never gave a proper fondle
T Rex – some good songs, i suppose
ELO – love what little I've heard
Abba - love

Fleetwood Mac – love
Steely Dan – love a couple albums, like the rest
Creedence – good stuff, bad connotations
Neil Young – kinda like it
My Bloody Valentine – love
Sly and the Family Stone – kinda like it
Kraftwerk – never really tried them
Talking Heads – really like
The Clash – don't like them very much, couple of good songs
New Order – kinda like it
Public Enemy – never really tried them
Run DMC – never really tried them
Pet Shop Boys – don't like them very much
The Fall – really like
Curtis Mayfield – never really tried him
Fela Kuti – really like
Parliament/Funkadelic – Like
Aphex Twin – never really tried him
Herbie Hancock – love
Can – love
The Roots – kinda like them
Madlib – never really tried him
The Beatles – love
Cocteau Twins – love
Joy Division – like some of it
The Kinks – never tried them
Massive Attack – don't like
The Pixies – love
Radiohead – like some of it
The Rolling Stones – don't like, bad connotations
Roxy Music – really like
The Smiths – Like
Sonic Youth – love
Talk Talk – love
Velvet Underground – really like, used to have more love for them
Yo La Tengo – love some of it, strong feelings of 'meh' for a lot of it though
Brian Eno – really like him
Stevie Wonder – like him
T Rex – don't like
ELO – couldn't care less
Abba - no, not really

Also Saint Etienne should be on these response lists: ILM has expressed love / meh for them in the past.

Saint Etienne - Love

Dudes, what about Boston?

those two are really awful. i am surprised nobody proposed foreigner yet. ;-)

Fleetwood Mac – like
Steely Dan – love
Creedence – love
Neil Young – like
My Bloody Valentine – indifferent
Sly and the Family Stone – like
Kraftwerk – indifferent
Talking Heads – love
The Clash – like
New Order – indifferent
Public Enemy – like
Run DMC – like
Pet Shop Boys – indifferent
The Fall – haven't heard
Curtis Mayfield – like
Fela Kuti – haven't heard
Parliament/Funkadelic – like
Aphex Twin – indifferent
Herbie Hancock – like
Can – indifferent
The Roots – like
Madlib – indifferent
The Beatles – love
Cocteau Twins – haven't heard
Joy Division – dislike
The Kinks – like
Massive Attack – indifferent
The Pixies – like
Radiohead – like
The Rolling Stones – love
Roxy Music – haven't heard
The Smiths – indifferent
Sonic Youth –love
Talk Talk – haven't heard
Velvet Underground – like
Yo La Tengo – indifferent
Brian Eno – like
Stevie Wonder – love
T Rex – indifferent
ELO – like
Abba - indifferent

Boston are better than that. Also I'd rather listen to them than St. Etienne. (xp)

Wasn't there an old thread (2002-3, maybe) where we discovered that XTC were the only band that were hated by virtually nobody on ILM? That's not the same as LOVE LOVE LOVE, but a high degree of "not hate" (i.e. having a very high approval rating) also counts for something ...

i don't hate xtc but i don't like them neither. which may prove your theory. actually my problem with xtc is that i do not get them most of the times.

XTC has got a major boost since then thanks to beloved ILX sockpuppet "gangsta andy partridge".

I'd be surprised if a few people didn't hate XTCon ILM, but I'm not sure enough people actually care either way for them to win any such contest

Yeah, the question that was asked at the time is not exactly the same as what is being discussed now.

Which Band Are People Most Indifferent To On ILM?

think about how you feel about some maiden aunt you see, like, once every three years

now think about your girlfriend

now try to tell me that the most "not hated" artist is the same as the "most loved" band

I hate all of the XTC I've heard, which isn't very much*, but still.

*Senses Working Overtime
Mayor of Simpleton
The Ballad of Peter Pumpkinhead

... explain?

x-post

what about the beach boys? there will be lots of love and maybe even some hate but not too much, i'd guess. i am no big fan though when they hit it, they hit it hard.

I wondered why the Beach Boys weren't on the list

btw the band used the most as a punchline on ILX? Gay Dad or Killing Joke?

It's more Gay Dad's drummer than the whole band

what i feel for the beach boys, although it involves a substantive amount of respect and warm fuzziness, is not love

i don't think this question is about merely liking or tolerating, it's about that kind of slavish fanboy devotion that makes ilm such an interesting/frustrating place to inhabit sometimes

Fleetwood Mac – NLND
Steely Dan – Strongly Dislike
Creedence – NLND
Neil Young – Strongly Like
My Bloody Valentine – Like
Sly and the Family Stone – Strongly Like
Kraftwerk – Neither Like nor Dislike
Talking Heads – Like
The Clash – NLND
New Order – Like
Public Enemy – Love
Run DMC – Love
Pet Shop Boys – Like
The Fall – Dislike
Curtis Mayfield – Strongly Like
Fela Kuti – NLND
Parliament/Funkadelic – Love
Aphex Twin – Like
Herbie Hancock – Love (60s), Dislike (70s)
Can – NLND
The Roots – Strongly Like
Madlib – Love
The Beatles – Strongly Like
Cocteau Twins – Strongly Like
Joy Division – Like
The Kinks – Like
Massive Attack – Neither Like nor Dislike
The Pixies – Strongly Like
Radiohead – Strongly Like
The Rolling Stones – Like
Roxy Music – NLND
The Smiths – Love
Sonic Youth – Strongly Like
Talk Talk – NLND
Velvet Underground – Strongly Like
Yo La Tengo – Strongly Like
Brian Eno – Like
Stevie Wonder – Strongly Like
T Rex – Like
ELO – Like the one song I've heard
Abba - Love
The Beach Boys - Strongly Like

Fleetwood Mac – like
Steely Dan – like
Creedence – who?
Neil Young – dislike
My Bloody Valentine – dislike
Sly and the Family Stone – only heard a few songs
Kraftwerk – whatevz
Talking Heads – never heard
The Clash – dislike
New Order – only like a couple of songs
Public Enemy – like
Run DMC – like
Pet Shop Boys – love (until they went shit - now dislike)
The Fall – never heard
Curtis Mayfield – like what i've heard
Fela Kuti – never heard
Parliament/Funkadelic – like what i've heard
Aphex Twin – whatevz
Herbie Hancock – never heard
Can – like
The Roots – whatevz
Madlib – whatevz
The Beatles – loathe
Cocteau Twins – whatevz
Joy Division – dislike
The Kinks – loathe
Massive Attack – love
The Pixies – whatevz
Radiohead – fucking loathe, ugh
The Rolling Stones – dislike
Roxy Music – who?
The Smiths – LOATHE
Sonic Youth – whatevz
Talk Talk – who?
Velvet Underground – like
Yo La Tengo – whatevz
Brian Eno – not actually sure i've ever heard
Stevie Wonder – love
T Rex – never heard
ELO – who?
Abba - dislike
The Beach Boys - loathe

o_O

surprised you are whatevz about madlib. didn't he produce half of the last badu? even if you aren't a big indie rap man lex, i thought you'd still like the guy.

i probably do, i just haven't paid much attention to the name

what happened to portishead?

dunno but LOVE

well i pretty much like everything so here goes

Fleetwood Mac – like
Steely Dan – love
Neil Young - like (wouldnt bother with new stuff tho)
Creedence – like
My Bloody Valentine – like
Sly and the Family Stone – like
Kraftwerk – like
Talking Heads – love
The Clash – like
New Order – like
Public Enemy – like
Run DMC – dont care
Pet Shop Boys – like (wouldnt bother with any new stuff tho)
The Fall – love
Curtis Mayfield – like what i've heard
Fela Kuti – never heard much
Parliament/Funkadelic – like
Aphex Twin – like
Herbie Hancock – like
Can – love
The Roots – like 'Phrenology' but not much else
Madlib – never heard them
The Beatles – like (never lsten to them tho)
Cocteau Twins – like (a little goes a long way)
Joy Division – like
The Kinks – like
Massive Attack – used to like kinda bore me now
The Pixies – used to love, listened to them to death now tho
Radiohead – like maybe love
The Rolling Stones – meh
Roxy Music – meh
The Smiths – love
Sonic Youth – love
Talk Talk – like
Velvet Underground – like
Yo La Tengo – like some stuff
Brian Eno – love
Stevie Wonder – meh
T Rex – like some stuff
ELO – shite
Abba - like
The Beach Boys - love