Guido - lovely lovely lovely

i'm fully expecting to be told this is SO november, but are people into Guido?
http://www.sendspace.com/file/yrv8pk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vL487qSmOo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWcdwq2URSU

way U make me feel

he is my beatiful complicationnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

i <3 guido - imo he should be receiving all the plaudits that joy orbison is atm, and i think he's easily the best of the dubstep-not-dubstep lot these days. "way u make me feel" and "orchestral lab" are beautiful.

everything i've heard from dude sounds bland at first blush, then halfway through the development wows me and then it's ten repeats later and I don't want to listen to anything else all day.
And that's December 20 and 21 for you.

Search "cat in the window" too!

artist or another song by him?

another song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww0K7XW8WJY

c also joker + 2000f & JKamata

ah, i actually know and like that song; just slipped my mind.
joker is another dude who's just as good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzHOdfSHZgs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bIR_YmiuVw

man, this whole youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=FE7A9BCFF40A0887

also, was it just me that blanked or was there not talk/<3 4 Darkstar on ILM this year? Aidy's Girl is sweet but I didn't bother listening to it until a couple days ago reading the RA year end

tell me more?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlPCEuNUxYw

sweet

morodery non-dubstep that gets all HAL-from-2001

from the hyperdub 5 year thing which you wld prolly like

oho, yeah that's great too!
I'm mostly discovering all this thanks to one great mix i got from a singles jukebox cat in the UK. I love this post-dubstep/idm sound or whatever the heck it's supposed to be.

also Ikonika

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvpgiiotL0U

Okay are you the guy who sent me that mix? Cuz it's got all these on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jX-jkjYH4U

hahahaha! i know what you mean tho man, im starting to feel like the secret to the riddle is that dubstep doesn't really exist because everything that I hear that I like that is "dubstep" turns out to be "not really dubstep" to the point where I'm leaving Rinse.fm on all the time in the hopes of hearing this elusive bird we call dubstep. A huge portion of my favourite releases this year, even ones that were DEFINITELY NOT DUBSTEP had a whiff of a dubstep vibe abt them or used that word in their press releases (basic channel guy's remix of that tortoise track, the xx, moderat) and also shit like shackleton, joker, ikonika. I don't really buy the "its the mainstreamification" angle because hey that was 2006 and uk funky is the hip name to drop now, but it feels like for such a buzzy word right now, the actual dubstep is hard to find and you have to be "in the know" maybe?

maybe this could be the "fake dubstep for douchebags who don't know what it is" thread

me: the guy from the xx does pretty cool remixes, kinda dubsteppy
friend: what exactly is dubstep anyway?
me: i don't really know

ha, in america we don't even know enough to front that we don't know!
i just love this sound right now.

check out his FACT mix. it's wicked.

Gemmy is the third guy in the trio with Joker and Guido (Apparently they're supposed to be collaborating on a record at some point). He's not quite at the others level yet but definitely worth keeping an eye on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxI1x0Wbnpw&feature=related

fully obsessing over Guido "Way U Make Me Feel" right now!! Its great!!

All this stuff is way better than dubstep proper but Guido is rivalling Joker to be the best of the lot. Hope there are lots of vocalists on both their albums, preferably ones we've never heard of. Really love Way U Make Me Feel, Beautiful Complication is very good as well but sounds better sped up in the mix.

Guido's FACT mixes from December and another one from earlier this year are both incredible.

maybe this could be the "fake dubstep for douchebags who don't know what it is" thread

Makes sense. Since there's a load of great stuff by other similar artists linked on here, and we're going to be hearing a lot of these dudes over the coming year, I've retitled the thread. Also it means we won't have to keep reviving a thread with 'Wonky' in the title.

lol

a few recent/overlooked ones...subeena in particular needs a TON more attention. she's just started up her own label and her imminent "picture"/"spectrum" 12" is incredible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ki_lkKTsKI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP7fVS2FDGg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipA07R9ZinQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q1tyBu-Aa4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac6xJI7uwMA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjYBDqjRJ_s

http://img124.yfrog.com/img124/6007/wonkyerm.jpg

http://bitesblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/guido-minimix.html

Guido - Tantalized
Guido, Aarya & Ruthless - Beautiful Complication
Guido - Chakra
Guido - You Do It Right
Guido - Orchestral Lab
Gemmy - Johnny 5
Guido - Mad Sax
Joker - Do It!
Guido - Tango
Joker - Digidesign

my old band was called guido. this thread is confusing. I might sue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auv1gIn3V3c

So is this dubstep? And is anyone discussing it in the UK, cuz it gets no US love yet that i know of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH2QP18wRus
very four-tet-ty

he was on the sound of bbc list this year and aren't pitchfork in love w/ him? in any case, yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD-48WUGMY4

and u should check out his rmx of bliss out by lemonade which is awesome (orig is a pile of ass tho)

don't know how ur getting four tet from this tho?

xp i don't keep up with pitchfork except by proxy, but this is nice!
so is it dubstep?

shrug, sounds like four tet to my ears... maybe it's just me?

I really don't like this sound...I'm sorry, but I do. What is the point of this music? It's just like...pleasant.

what's wrong with pleasant?

Ronan what do you think of this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1HnatIMFOs

Think on this thread so far we're going a bit heavy on the chimy IDM side and not enough of the nasty bass-heavy videogame side.

I know that tune...I sort of like it but like with a lot of music like that I keep waiting for a rapper to come in.

gold panda is british chillwave imo

I'm not sure how much mileage we'll get out of being exclusionary on this thread, given that the gap between Darkstar and Joker is fucking huge, but then again I get the feeling that whether they fit in is less an issue of music and more one of whether they go to the pub with one another. FWIW I like Gold Panda but he fits better with Four Tet and people than here.

i dunno i was surprised he was british. id lump him more with like neon indian or something

this from 1992 i think reminds me of the indie-er gold panda end of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFNFDPpkTJs

buffalo stance beats!

fuck this 'lovely' shit. give me joker any day. most of this 'soulful' dubstep is just fucking trip hop rebooted and is actually really more boring than it is beautiful or delicate. its just wishy washy. never really got into half that stuff on deep medi from silkie and that lot for the same reason.

i don't think anything on this thread so far sounds like re-booted triphop

what's the meaning inferred with "purple"

and "Way U Make Me Feel" is miles above anything else so far posted (youtube clips-wise)

the bristol dudes (guido, gemy and especially joker) refer to their music as "purple" or "purple wow" - http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/jun/12/guido-joker-gemmy-purple-bristol

*gemmy

purple wow is joker/guido/that other dude from bristol(?) they have a partic sound that started getting called purple or purple wow largely off the back of some quote and calling one of their tracks purple city

lol

"gemmy"

app this guy is good but i don't know anyone who has heard anythig by him

and yeah it doesn't sound like rebooted trip-hop to me, though obv it ~shares a lineage~

i think where some of the dismissers are falling down is that any two given artists from within this genre-not-genre tend not to sound much like each other - you could group the bristol dudes together, the glasgow ones, the ones coming from a housier background, the techier ones, but it's pretty much impossible to dismiss it all as reheated trip-hop/idm - you have to specify which artists you're talking about

xps!!

as far as other terms being floated, rustie and 8bitch are trying to make "tropical" happen i think, and IIRC joe muggs refers to it as "mutant funk" in print

out of all of this mess mount kimbie + Untold are my faves

I don't know if this is the right thread, but Starkey's new tune, "Knob Twiddler" is fucking fantastic.

Plaxico, i posted a Gemmy track up thread. He has a pretty good one on Mary Anne Hobbs "Wild Angels" compilation too.

i was referring to stuff like beautiful complication has essentially going for the same vibe if not exact sound as trip hop. though on re-listen its equally like R&B stuck into dubstep. not a great R&B song at that either. but then i cant stand that 'tell me tell me' track thats been getting played for what seems like a thousand years by everyone either. mutant funk i think only works for a small percentage of whats happening at the mo - stuff like lucky me, joker, and a few others. not everyone.

most floating points ive heard for eg sounds like fly lo x house.

i dunno if this is the right thread for this to go but one of my favourite things in the 2-step era was garage remixes of american r'n'b tunes. Ive heard uk funky remixes of aaliyah (ill blu) and jeremih (venom and damage) but what awesome dubstep'n'b remixes haven't i heard?

we're already at post-dubstep? i was only made aware of dubstep last year.

post-dubstep is welcome if it starts bringing well-dressed/groomed people to dubstep nights. in montreal dubstep is the domain of teenage ravers, white dudes with dreadlocks, lesbians, and hippies over thirty.

this plus reverb really

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ovwabIPWSo

kinda feel like lex should be my go-to guy on this

i like this quite a lot. that' all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_ffPVq4aUU

this is the wrong thread for ukg remixes of r&b tunes. though they were great. i bought a load of them recently.

xpost: noted, and i don't even know what you call half of this stuff, but most places are tagging 2000F under dubstep. To my ears recent Guido and 2000F tracks are as post-dubstep as each other

have we

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PipyPtUAt8w

?

lovely lovely lovely

thats a good one actually. though it lends itself to being described by way of its influences too easily.

Hugely grateful to the tracks poll for introducing me to Way U Make Me Feel and Aidy's Girl. Quite possibly "fucking trip hop rebooted" but I always did love me some fucking trip hop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pHsmVgFSiM

cough cough cough click here cough cough

is pangaea thread approp? his EP is one of my favourite releases in 2010 so far

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwJvjl8jo5k

also, new joy orbison is A+ and better than hyph myngo but kinda the same imo

joker is pretty incredible

http://bit.ly/9Bq67f

Yeah this is wicked.

goddamn i love this guy

I like a lot of stuff posted on this thread. anyone care to recommend any dj mixes or djs playing this type of stuff? apologies if its been covered.

joker is pretty incredible

http://bit.ly/9Bq67f

― J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 March 2010 08:19 (15 hours ago) Bookmark

ha! for a second I freaked out, thinking Disney had aksed Joker to do a track for the Tron film.

still incredible tho

I dunno...I've loved most of what Joker has done so far but all his productions are starting to blur into one at this stage.

I like a lot of stuff posted on this thread. anyone care to recommend any dj mixes or djs playing this type of stuff? apologies if its been covered.

― dsb,

You can't really go wrong with Oneman's seasonal mixes > >

Autumn / Winter / 2010

I dunno...I've loved most of what Joker has done so far but all his productions are starting to blur into one at this stage.

hmmn yeah i rly love purple city/psychedelic runway but this and the previous one not so much

Also Guido's aforementioned FACT mix is a winner.

Yes Tron deploys some of the same tricks as his previous big singles, but it's still good. I love the main melody as it's repeated in different timbres, especially the eastern sounding one from Digidesign. For a different side of Joker, check out Snake Eater, which is Dilla style cut-up vocals + purple SNES noise.

i love that real grinding synth -- it sounds like it's ripping the song apart

the colossal synth lines of those early singles are kinda untouchable

without them you are reminded that this stuff isn't so very far removed from d_____p

Yeah sounds like the bass motor of an old video game soundchip. I wonder what he might have up his sleeve for a full-length though. For me, he's the definitive wonky guy, maybe he fits in nicely with all the glo-fi stuff.

tron's nice but i don't think it's quite there

is he putting out a full length this year?

supposedly

I don't know about timelines, but he's been talking about it in interviews/twitter. Seems only natural right?

the various productions remix of lauren pritchard's "stuck" that i posted in the dance partisans thread is relevant to this thread's interests

as is the incredibly good imminent ikonika album, 8bit bleeps and synth viscera. great cover art too -

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_GmmfkTOoWsE/S1jBnAjrFwI/AAAAAAAAAOY/uSR9YBfuW60/s320/ikonika-sleeve-32838.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpxHpoxI0rg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3PhBWkFWTM

Hmm not sure about those tunes. Definitely more dancefloor friendly, beats are more Joy Orbison/2-steppy than Dilla lurch. Was never sold on Ikonika initially from her various hyperdub stuff...this misses the chewy, corroded, slightly fucked-up quality of the best 'wonky' I've heard. Heading over to Dance Partisans for that remix now.

those ikonika are kinda cool

i dig joker & guido more than all other dubstep/dubstep offshoots cuz (joker esp) they sound like rap beats

ha, ikonika used to be a j dilla-inspired hip-hop producer. (and before that a drummer in various hardcore bands, when she was 11.)

you've heard joker's "gully brook lane" right? his first big tune from 08 - still his BIGGEST in terms of physically affecting sound too

yeah -- i like to imagine that joker & guido tracks are actually vintage timbaland beats that he never released because they were too jagged to rap over

brother from another mother talking there.

this is the only track i have of an mc trying to rap over a joker beat, durrty goodz. dunno if there are any more - it's not that great though. i've heard djs drop hip-hop vocals over joker beats out though, it usually seems to be ludacris for some reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOl7jsBGkKU

however, much much better along the same lines is the same mc vocalling starkey's "gutter music" (and starkey is def a must-hear for joker fans...)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7n1UMONzFY

and the lead single from starkey's new album, "ok luv" with badness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajTItIo7u3Q

I am listening to the new Starkey NOW - it is very good and a jump (if not a huge one) on from his debut album. That said I don't think of it as endemic to the idea of this thread or what I think the idea is - it's quite... macho (I want to use less of a pejorative but it's too early to think) and sometimes batters you a bit - I'm fine with this, just sayin

so good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMaKsZDD2Go

There's a pair of Mount Kimbie remix EP's out at the moment. The James Blake version of Maybes is pretty nice.

so, two eps and two remix eps? they must really hate albums.

Album is out in June apparently

considering how different those eps are from each other, its hard to know what the album will sound like. if they split the difference ill be pretty happy.

I have now have a playlist I shuffle around on that's Mount Kimbie, James Blake, that Darkstar cover/remix of Radiohead's Videotape, and... what else should I throw in there?

Emika - Drop The Other

maybe this stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnD26eJq8SM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZqAg_L6D4Y

Tracklist for the Guido album Anidea out in May

1. Guido ‘Anidea’
2. Guido ‘Orchestral Lab’
3. Guido ‘Woke Up Early’
4. Guido ‘Cat In The Window’
5. Guido ‘Beautiful Complication’ featuring Aarya
6. Guido ‘Mad Sax’
7. Guido ‘You Do It Right’
8. Guido ‘Take Me Higher’
9. Guido ‘Way U Make Me Feel’ feat Yolanda
10. Guido ‘Tango’
11. Guido ‘Shades of Blue’
12. Guido ‘Tantalized’

so a vocal version of "way u make me feel", i presume!

Yeah, it's gonna be the single, you can hear it on Soundcloud. Kinda weird after listening to the instrumental so much
http://soundcloud.com/punchdrunkrecords

very much looking forward to this though i feel i've already heard half the album already.

was hoping that was going to be an MJ cover

yeah the vocal "way u make me feel" does sound weird - yolanda's got a great voice but it always felt like that song was so melodic that the different riffs were doing the singing

oh man i'm really excited for this. haven't heard anything since orchestral lab/wummf

this is the only track i have of an mc trying to rap over a joker beat, durrty goodz. dunno if there are any more

I've got a version of Tempah T over Gullybrook Lane. It's a bit shit though, because, well, it's Tempah T.

Also why is Chakra not on the Guido album? It's amazing and I really want a proper version of it.

The new Booka Shade is pretty awesome. "Renegade" is dooooooooope.

Another teaser for the Yolanda track on the album. Pinch feat. Yolanda - Get Up (Guido Mix)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lqfchVqVlc

Better than the Lauren Pritchard mix I think.

this vocal mix of of "way u make me feel" is actually really good

so...everyone needs to have copped the ikonika album now, it's out. this is my absolute favourite on it, it's like being in a shoot 'em up computer game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB9zPOGsPgw

i kno there was a lot of talk abt how dubsteppy this britney track was a t the time, but it really does sound more like ikonika 2me than anything that was around at the time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMrjPC6798o

http://static.boomkat.com/images/331621/333.jpg
Yeah, this is fantastic. "Take Me Higher" is really hitting the spot right now.

I'm fairly impressed with Guido's album, too. However, and I'm surprised given the strength of the productions already, but the "Way U Make Me Feel" vocal version makes me wish the album had more vocals.

Yeah this is gorgeous stuff, he's got a great feel for melody, space and texture. I'd heard almost all of it before through his various mixes, but it's great to have all the individual tracks in one place.

fucking hell "tango"!!!!! this album is amazing

any way to get this in the states? I really wanna listen.

do you have the internet in the states? google? if so you should be all set

(i had no idea about this album being out so soon, whoever's pressing it hasn't deigned to send me a copy)

well i actually wanted to pay for it but anyway

released 24 may, i think?

I really don't like the vocals on the Guido album. Have been loving the rest though, some of the prettiest electronic music I've heard in ages.

the "tron"/"ain't i" mashup on a-trak's new thing is pretty cool

with the exception of somehow skipping young dro's verse

GOD DAMN this thread = #1 piece of evidence of why auto embedding of youtubes on ilx was a probably a really retarded idea -- jeeeeeeeeeesus my computer will barely let me type

okay anyway the guido album is of course lovely lovely lovely -- is joker putting out an album or?

seriously fuck this thread

just turn images off in preferences

Or just bookmark it so you only see new posts as they come up.

i have it bookmarked specifically for that reason but once you post it loads the whole thread

I heard that Joker had deleted a load of stuff he was working on and started again. Now he's a producer that could definitely do with a load of vocalists on his album.

no i dont want to hear any vocalists on his album. hes one producer whose tracks are so well thought out and executed i dont think he even needs them. tron is just perfect.

Love the Guido album you guys. Thanks!

I'm still enjoying this album but I wish he put as much effort into his beats as his melodies, leaves a lot of tracks here sounding half-finished IMO.

I don't entirely disagree with that but this will still likely be a top ten album of the year for me

"cat in the window" is the one song on this that really, really stood out to me

Are people enjoying the Mount Kimbie album? I'm currently checking it out via youtube and I quite like it so far.

it's probably my fave album of the year, easily top 3

Nice! What are the other two? I was doing good earlier in the year with keeping up with new albums, but I'm totally slipping now

probably big boi or badu or lcd, but in this vein, james blake's 'cmyk' ep has really grown on me a lot. and i was super impressed with the baths record on first listen, but haven't felt like going back to it much.

kinda liking cinnamon chasers; are they considered dubstep or chillwave or wtf?

Would anyone object to the coining of the term "sidestep" to refer to post-dubstep music?

If not, I'm coining it now.

http://thesportsclown.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/who-cares.jpg

stepstep

Maybe we could call it doorstep because the studio it's made in has a door?

"sidestep" is good because it advises you to steer clear

+1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5sDXBOEsi4

that's just the Acid Jazz sweep from 93.

'beautiful compilation' and 'way u make me feel' are so hot, really need to give the album a full listen though

u do!
and he needs to make more music

theres also 'chakra' which is a b-side i think, which is also awesome

the title track's fantastic

well yes i AM very interested in the new joker album and the fact that everyone seems to hate it bodes well as far as i'm concerned

it's not completely horrendous but largely everyone was right

like this year's hyetal album, the new guido is perfectly fine but just suffers from not being a patch on the debut