Favourite Hüsker Dü Album?

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I know I ran this poll before but for some reason It's been deleted at some point so here it is again but favourite instead of best just for a change. Zen Arcade won last time iirc.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
New Day Rising (1985) 52
Zen Arcade (1984) 42
Flip Your Wig (1985) 30
Candy Apple Grey (1986) 21
Warehouse: Songs and Stories (1987) 16
Metal Circus (1983) 14
Land Speed Record (1982) 6
Everything Falls Apart (1982) 4


pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 21:29 (fifteen years ago)

I'll be lame and vote for Warehouse. *ducks*

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 21:32 (fifteen years ago)

On that third flyer, check out the shape of the pylon in the background.

Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 21:36 (fifteen years ago)

yeah noticed it before.

What was the 1st Husker Du everyone heard? Mine was Metal Circus. I said somewhere on the sst thread

Was the first husker du i bought, Tower had it in glasgow for £8 on import sometime in 1992. The next week I went back into Glasgow and bought all the Husker Du i could find in Missing Records.

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname),

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 21:44 (fifteen years ago)

first i heard: zen arcade, early 90s
favorite: new day rising, as it has seen me through both hard and good times

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 21:47 (fifteen years ago)

I think the first Husker song I ever heard was "Makes No Sense at All" on a mixtape, but the first album I bought was Candy Apple Grey.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 21:48 (fifteen years ago)

What was the 1st Husker Du everyone heard?

1986 - heard 'Don't Want To Know If You Are Lonely' on late night Radio Luxembourg, it was their "Power Play" selection for a week. That EP was pretty good, other tracks were 'All Work And No Play' and 'Helter Skelter'.

Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 21:49 (fifteen years ago)

I'll be lame and vote for Warehouse. *ducks*

i'm ducking too. at least it will have two votes.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 17 March 2010 21:55 (fifteen years ago)

Candy Apple Grey in summer '92, after loving Sugar's Copper Blue. Disappointed that CAG didn't roar like CB, I refrained from buying any more Husker albums until the end of the year, after which I bought Flip Your Wig and finally Got It.

I still prefer Copper Blue to most of Husker's catalogue though.

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 21:55 (fifteen years ago)

first heard: either Zen Arcade or Metal Circus, in 1984.

favorite: Zen Arcade is shamefully the only one I still have on my shelf (on CD -- LP is long gone), but my gut tells me New Day Rising is better. Didn't like anything after Flip Your Wig.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 21:56 (fifteen years ago)

First I heard was "Eight Miles High." Theoretically, everything of theirs I heard after that should've been a letdown, but fortunately it wasn't.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 21:58 (fifteen years ago)

new day rising

am0n, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:00 (fifteen years ago)

First heard "Zen Arcade" in early '85, the day Konstantin Chernenko died (or possibly the day Gorbachev took over, which would've been the very next day)

Half lies and gorilla dust (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:01 (fifteen years ago)

Did you 'Turn on the News'?

Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:03 (fifteen years ago)

Candy Apple Grey was the first one I heard, but I already had Copper Blue & Beaster then.

New Day Rising is probably my favourite, but I love the raging hardcore of Land Speed Record.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:06 (fifteen years ago)

Always meant to re-buy Candy Apple Grey on CD, but just couldn't bear the fuck-up with the artwork. Did they ever get that sorted?

Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:11 (fifteen years ago)

Voted and first heard: Zen Arcade in 1984.

Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:13 (fifteen years ago)

1986 - heard 'Don't Want To Know If You Are Lonely' on late night Radio Luxembourg, it was their "Power Play" selection for a week.

Amazingly, I think this is the first place I heard them too! I remember they broadcast a live show around the same time which really floored me, coming out of a Sisters Of Mercy phase I'd never heard anything remotely like it. New Day Rising just pips it from Zen Arcade and Flip Your Wig for me.

Matt #2, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:15 (fifteen years ago)

High five! I was ankle-boot deep in goth at the time myself.

Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:19 (fifteen years ago)

new day rising

Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:19 (fifteen years ago)

zen arcade narrowly over new day rising for me. former is psychedelic pop dressed up in a hardcore haze, sort of. latter is metal dressed up in a psychedelic pop haze, sort of. i love them both to death. heard zen arcade first and immediately fell in love.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:23 (fifteen years ago)

yeah it's a tossup pretty much

i guess for me new day rising has:

the ultimate husker blast of hugeness (title track)

the ultimate sorta wistful punk husker proto-indie rock tune (celebrated summer)

the ultimate grant sunny 60s pop song (books about ufos)

Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:26 (fifteen years ago)

New Day Rising.

I assume you guys who voted for Warehouse are actually voting for your personal playlist where you've deleted the shitty half of the album.

heck bent for pleather (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:27 (fifteen years ago)

First I heard was "Gilligan's Island" from Land Speed Record, which a friend had put on a punk compilation which blew my mind. Metal Circus and Zen Arcade soon afterward.

Religious Embolism (WmC), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:28 (fifteen years ago)

zen arcade - even the hippy freakout song rocks.

first heard: land speed record, when i was 17, expecting to hear more stuff like sugar, who were rocking my world. blew my mind, though i hated it the first couple of spins. warehouse was next, and was more my speed. then zen arcade, which i thoroughly loved - bridging that gap between melodic, pop-orientated song-writing and full-on buzzsaw thrash, without compromising either one iota.

aw beat de holy jasus.. (stevie), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:30 (fifteen years ago)

warehouse has a couple of clunkers but i still wouldn't junk them. mostly, its incandescent.

aw beat de holy jasus.. (stevie), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:30 (fifteen years ago)

the ultimate sorta wistful punk husker proto-indie rock tune (celebrated summer)

that's one of the tipping points against new day rising for me.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:31 (fifteen years ago)

I love the SST records, hate the Warners ones.

Religious Embolism (WmC), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:32 (fifteen years ago)

really? man celebrated summer was like the first husker song i ever heard when i was little and it seemed so epic and sad to me ;_;

Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:32 (fifteen years ago)

(btw everything falls apart is probably gonna be the most underrated one here, that's a dope collection of tunes)

Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:33 (fifteen years ago)

especially the cd version with the great singles like In A Free Land.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:34 (fifteen years ago)

ah! i'm a sucka so i only know the CD version...actually losing "in a free land" would knock it down a peg for me...that's top 5 huskers songs for me

Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:36 (fifteen years ago)

in a free land rules...

aw beat de holy jasus.. (stevie), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:36 (fifteen years ago)

don't really like the production of the rest of the record though, lacks the fullpelt chaos of land speed record for their hardcore era. title track's a charm though.

aw beat de holy jasus.. (stevie), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:37 (fifteen years ago)

(xp) "celebrated summer" always seemed so labored and fussed over to me, like they were trying to write one for the ages, or for the radio, or something. what i love about zen arcade and most of new day rising is how free spirited and loose and off-the-cuff it sounds. also, "celebrated summer" strikes me as one of the least-catchy major songs in their oeuvre.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:40 (fifteen years ago)

Flip Your Wig, with New Day Rising a close second. Always thought Zen Arcade was overrated: a couple of songs that rank with their best ("Something I Learned Today" and "Newest Industry"), a few good ones, some waste (pretty much all of the hardcore side), and one famous song ("Turn on the News") the appeal of which I just don't get.

clemenza, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:41 (fifteen years ago)

In A Free Land has always been my fave song jointly with Diane.

xp

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:44 (fifteen years ago)

Bob maybe wrote more better songs but Grants best is the equal of Bobs for sure.
xp

Turn On The News is one of my faves! I love it.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:44 (fifteen years ago)

it took me just 10 seconds to find Best Hüsker Dü Album (POLL Ends 4th May)

but yeah what ilx needs is more polls it's already run

ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:44 (fifteen years ago)

mind you, i have a LOT of HD faves, they're in my top 5 fave bands of all time. Hence my shitloads of bootlegs collection (the advantage of knowing real hardcore husker du fans)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:46 (fifteen years ago)

well LJ i couldnt find it, but thanks for finding it for me!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:46 (fifteen years ago)

great first response to that one imo

ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:47 (fifteen years ago)

and since it was 3 years ago, what is your problem?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:47 (fifteen years ago)

Warehouse for me as well. "It's Not Peculiar" may be my favorite HD song of all.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:45 PM (2 years ago)

At least I am consistent.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:48 (fifteen years ago)

my problem is with the words I know I ran this poll before but for some reason It's been deleted at some point so here it is again

ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:51 (fifteen years ago)

specifically but for some reason It's been deleted at some point

spoken with such flip certainty

ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:52 (fifteen years ago)

anyway keep on keepin' on folks, i won't bother ye no longer

ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:53 (fifteen years ago)

well i couldnt find it and you're full of shit for saying it took you 10 seconds to find it.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:53 (fifteen years ago)

do you want to know my deadly secrets?

ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:53 (fifteen years ago)

ok, I copied

Land Speed Record (1982)
Everything Falls Apart (1982)
Metal Circus (1983)
Zen Arcade (1984)
New Day Rising (1985)
Flip Your Wig (1985)

and then pasted it into 'search posts'. was on the first page of results

ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:54 (fifteen years ago)

great to see lj move into his "i only post on threads to shit on them" phase

velko, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:55 (fifteen years ago)

and that was after how many pages of searches for Hüsker Dü (only 1 and it didnt even show up in that) and Husker Du you went through?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:56 (fifteen years ago)

Jeez, it's like Mould vs Hart in here.

Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:56 (fifteen years ago)

so i think its pretty fair to think its not there anymore and has been deleted.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:56 (fifteen years ago)

New Day Rising

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:57 (fifteen years ago)

it was the very first thing i searched for but w/e

ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:58 (fifteen years ago)

having heard most of these so much, metal circus is the only one i really enjoy nowadays. "Green Eyes" is ~such~ a killer ditty though

If you can believe your eyes and ears (outdoor_miner), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:59 (fifteen years ago)

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Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)

Been meaning to check them out for a long time. I was kind of waiting for these albums to be remastered (read somewhere, probably here, that the sound quality on the CD is shit), but I guess that ain't happening, so...

musicfanatic, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 23:08 (fifteen years ago)

I cant see them being remastered ever tbh

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 23:12 (fifteen years ago)

I'd assume if bob mould could get the rights to then he would have by now.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 23:12 (fifteen years ago)

There's such a glorious din-and-drone on Metal Circus/New Day Rising/Flip Your Wig as is, don't worry about such stuff. Go get them now.

clemenza, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 23:14 (fifteen years ago)

I bet if they did get a remastering job then most people would just complain that they preferred the DIY charm of the originals

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 23:19 (fifteen years ago)

I must admit, I cant imagine them sounding any differently. I think they're perfect as they are, but I'd be curious to how they would sound.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 23:20 (fifteen years ago)

(herman i have it on i'd say pretty good authority that the problem with the husker reissues - which have been on the table at various points - is not a rights issue. it would be possible to do them, however that would involve the three members of husker du to be on the same page and willing to work with each other)

snorgfaced germans (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 23:22 (fifteen years ago)

also what killed this:

New Double CD of previously unreleased Husker Du pre-Landspeed/Everything Falls Apart demos coming out!

snorgfaced germans (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 23:23 (fifteen years ago)

I still prefer Copper Blue to most of Husker's catalogue though.

― The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, March 17, 2010 5:55 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

Like a sausage or snake, smooth and soft (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 23:24 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm not holding my breath on the reissues. Will pick up 'Zen Arcade' (seems to be the popular choice around here) and check them out this weekend.

musicfanatic, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 23:27 (fifteen years ago)

New Day Rising was always my fave of the full lengths but I've been listening a lot to Flip Your Wig over the past few years. It's a very underrated album.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 23:39 (fifteen years ago)

New Day Rising, though I'm pretty fond of lots of Warehouse. The CD doesn't sound as bad as people say (compared to vinyl).

dlp9001, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 23:41 (fifteen years ago)

Candy Apple Grey was the first one I heard, sometime in 1999 I think (the Warners CDs were always cheaper in HMV than the SST ones). Flip Your Wig is my favourite these days although Zen Arcade was for ages. Warehouse took me about seven/eight years to properly get into, that has to be some sort of record for me.

Gavin in Leeds, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 23:51 (fifteen years ago)

some of it's great but Grant's songs let the side down mostly. She Floated Away is awesome though.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 18 March 2010 00:20 (fifteen years ago)

Side 2 of Zen Arcade is worth voting for that album as a whole - it's the best thing ever.

But you know, Warehouse would be great too, if you cut out most of the Grant songs.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Thursday, 18 March 2010 00:35 (fifteen years ago)

i think i read once grant had "2541" sitting in the hopper when they were doing warehouse and kept it to himself on purpose cuz he knew the band was done

snorgfaced germans (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 18 March 2010 00:38 (fifteen years ago)

Always thought Zen Arcade was overrated: a couple of songs that rank with their best ("Something I Learned Today" and "Newest Industry"), a few good ones, some waste (pretty much all of the hardcore side), and one famous song ("Turn on the News") the appeal of which I just don't get.

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The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 March 2010 01:11 (fifteen years ago)

In terms of whole albums it has to be New Day Rising, but my own forever-varying edit of Warehouse has to be my most cherished collection of late-night Husker balm.

TastySounds, Thursday, 18 March 2010 01:47 (fifteen years ago)

always thought the opinions on Candy Apple in the likes of the Azerrad book in the wake of FYW were a bit off, in their snappiness and 'convenience', deliberately trailing off the major stuff for the sake of the story, which was a bit weak IMO. To my mind Candy ups the Flip Your Wig ante, sands off the crappy bits like Wit and the Wisdom and Baby Song, and is more diverse than either Flip or Warehouse. Ideal intro to the band.

Master of Treacle, Thursday, 18 March 2010 02:22 (fifteen years ago)

a couple of songs that rank with their best

I count more than on any other Husker album:

"Something I Learned Today" (agreed)
"Broken Home, Broken Heart" (beautiful the way this moves and modulates, and I could relate)
"Chartered Trips" (his masterpiece, still part of Mould's set)
"The Biggest Lie" (one of my few experiences of a song "coming out" to me years after the fact)
"What's Going On" (great because it's true, with fond live memory of the mass pogo it provoked)
"Pink Turns to Blue" (still chilling)
"Whatever" (still cathartic)

I also love the big instrumental forwards and backwards, the drilling hardcore (about feelings rather than certainties) bursting into lunatic climaxes, the groovy digressions, and the many pop near-greats, all wound together by a guitar sound like nothing else on earth. "Turn On the News" works in context as a spiritual breather. The only song I ever skipped was "Somewhere," and the backward guitars are running through my head as I type, so maybe I shouldn't have.

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 18 March 2010 05:48 (fifteen years ago)

It's pretty close. These five from New Day Rising might be as great as any of those or greater:

"New Day Rising"
"The Girl Who Lives on Heaven Hill"
"Celebrated Summer"
"Terms of Psychic Warfare"
"Books About UFOs"

But then the non-classic stuff is harder to take, aside from "I Apologize," "If I Told You," and "Powerline," and while I love the sound, I've come to love it less on the lesser tracks.

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 18 March 2010 06:11 (fifteen years ago)

Did you 'Turn on the News'?

lolz

Half lies and gorilla dust (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 18 March 2010 07:06 (fifteen years ago)

the hardcore side of zen arcade is amazing, but if you don't like hardcore you're not gonna like it.

aw beat de holy jasus.. (stevie), Thursday, 18 March 2010 09:10 (fifteen years ago)

Candy Apple Grey was the first I heard (via Sugar), still think it's a fairly solid set of tracks that sit well together, but I think I voted for it just now because it's the best of how I expect them to sound - hadn't really gotten hardcore at that point. Everything Falls Apart is awesome, though, and the title track feels like a preview for the later albums' sound.

carbide, Thursday, 18 March 2010 09:20 (fifteen years ago)

Clemenza thinks the hardcore part of Zen Arcade is a "waste"? He sleeps with the fishes tonight.

Bill Magill, Thursday, 18 March 2010 13:56 (fifteen years ago)

I hate that goddamn Barzini...Get off my case, Bill Magill!

clemenza, Thursday, 18 March 2010 14:05 (fifteen years ago)

Just having fun with the name, big man. Relax.

Bill Magill, Thursday, 18 March 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)

Just having fun too.

clemenza, Thursday, 18 March 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)

now that i've thought about it, i would say i pull all of these out and listen to each and every one about once a year. i always end with THE LIVING END because it's like a greatest hits fireworks display of how much i love this band. hart is a total monster and an inspiration.

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 18 March 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)

anyone up for a post-huskers poll after this, mould vs hart, or all bob's solo/sugar stuff versus grant solo/nova mob?

aw beat de holy jasus.. (stevie), Thursday, 18 March 2010 14:14 (fifteen years ago)

or has this already been done? lj, you seem to be the appropriate board lawyer for this topic - what's the word?

aw beat de holy jasus.. (stevie), Thursday, 18 March 2010 14:14 (fifteen years ago)

oh man "black sheets of rain" is comically bleak -- i listened to it again this year and it almost made me laugh a little if i hadn't been so afraid that it would snap at me or write a song about what a horrible fucking person i am.

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 18 March 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

i love black sheets of rain

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 18 March 2010 14:18 (fifteen years ago)

i loved it when i heard it in high school, but there's something about it now that i just don't connect with. not that i don't like it, it's just not speaking to me.

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 18 March 2010 14:20 (fifteen years ago)

Black Sheets of Rain is the perfect example of a fantastic band sounding totally stiff.

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 March 2010 14:21 (fifteen years ago)

Cosign there. "Let There Be Peace/Sacrifice" is a great album ender, though.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 March 2010 14:22 (fifteen years ago)

Agreed -- an awesome slog up a big hill

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 18 March 2010 14:24 (fifteen years ago)

Still fond of Workbook, but the acoustic, introspective stuff is easier on Maimone-Fier etc.

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 March 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

Workbook for me is all about that one moment of anxiety in 'Wishing Well', right before the guitar solo hits. Feels like a final, frantic gasp of air just before you take the plunge into something dark and hopeless. Love that song.

Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Thursday, 18 March 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

has anyone posted this yet? sound's not good, but it's still pretty awesome and i esp like greg norton's john oates look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvde18BH4rE

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 18 March 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)

(the whole show is posted, that is part 7)

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 18 March 2010 14:44 (fifteen years ago)

did they ever, like, play zen arcade live in its entirety, or thereabouts? i know they were typically playing material from the next album whenever they toured, till the last tour...

Wat ho, goatee'd man? Thy skinnee jenes hath byrn'd my corneyas. (stevie), Thursday, 18 March 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

you guys ever seen this? i like this a lot...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxXeRnd36cI

failboat fucking captain (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:07 (fifteen years ago)

wait...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxXeRnd36cI

failboat fucking captain (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

i know a LOT of people who say chartered trips is their fave song

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

Kristin Hersh for one, iirc

Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

First LP I heard (I'm sure I've related this elsewhere): Land Speed Record, anxiously awaited as I was in the 7th Street Entry on the night it was recorded. Didn't like the album, tbh.

Pierced nose! Performs improv! (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 18 March 2010 16:24 (fifteen years ago)

That Indianapolis show actually seems like an off night: Why is nobody moving? But I'm ashamed to say I never noticed (or forgot) that Greg played without a pick, which is amazing.

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 18 March 2010 16:35 (fifteen years ago)

Has grant played live since his latest solo album came out?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:17 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbKIWTdw148

Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:28 (fifteen years ago)

Bizarre purchase from 99c store in Lakewood, CA: 3" CD single of 2541 still in massive plastic case about 2 feet long. They also had Das Damen & HR 3" CD singles but I passed on those.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:30 (fifteen years ago)

please tell me he is not missing his entire upper set of teeth
he has played in chicago at least once and will again in a week or two but i'm not sure if it's with a band or not.

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:33 (fifteen years ago)

xpost he definitely played a show here in NYC, last month I think.

Keep meaning to take an afternoon road trip and go eat at Greg Norton's restaurant on one of my visits home...

heck bent for pleather (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:34 (fifteen years ago)

something doesn't seem quite right about seeing a non-fattey grant hart

velko, Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:37 (fifteen years ago)

i don't care if he's fattey or not but please god let him have teeth!

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:38 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNf2VAjbmn0&feature=related

wtf @ appearance of U2 on the s/t to this clip

Wat ho, goatee'd man? Thy skinnee jenes hath byrn'd my corneyas. (stevie), Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:50 (fifteen years ago)

Great AV Club interview with Hart.

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 March 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)

wtf @ u2 big country and garbage are all playing in the background

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 18 March 2010 18:38 (fifteen years ago)

New Day Rising for me, closely followed by Candy Apple Grey.

FWIW, Celebrated Summer is my favourite Husker Du song. Beautiful melody, lyrics that sum up (for me) the appeal of Mould as a lyricist, and crazy guitar wig-out at the end too. What more could you want?

Neil S, Thursday, 18 March 2010 18:51 (fifteen years ago)

I misread that youtube link as Husker Du : When Were They Thin?

Matt #2, Thursday, 18 March 2010 19:47 (fifteen years ago)

mould is in like CRAZY good shape now...i swear he looks younger than pictures from the early 80s

snorgfaced germans (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 18 March 2010 22:44 (fifteen years ago)

One of my closest friends knows him well, and, yeah, he's never looked better.

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 March 2010 22:46 (fifteen years ago)

must be all that gym work?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 19 March 2010 00:40 (fifteen years ago)

Flip Your Wig for the high points ("Keep Hanging On" "Games" "Green Eyes" "Makes No Sense At All") though I'm tempted to vote Warehouse--seeing "Could You Be the One" on MTV was a transformative exp. when I was a kid.

President Keyes, Friday, 19 March 2010 01:05 (fifteen years ago)

sometimes i feel like flip yr wig could be my fave hsukers album if it didn't have 'the baby song', which i just find to be supremely irritating.

Wat ho, goatee'd man? Thy skinnee jenes hath byrn'd my corneyas. (stevie), Friday, 19 March 2010 07:44 (fifteen years ago)

They're a bit like the Replacements (in many ways!) but specifically in that they always had a few throwaway songs in amongst the heartbreakingly brilliant ones, I think.

Neil S, Friday, 19 March 2010 09:14 (fifteen years ago)

There's too much throwaway material on even their classic SST mid 80s albums - luckily these are more in the line of incidental or at least short pieces but they either interrupt the flow or bookend these records. They never had that 'throw it on, who cares' rag-tag image of the Mats so it sits a little uneasy with me. Their retrospective image as this 'heads down, up to 11, one step ahead' peerless influence might give potential fans a slightly misguided impression when actually sitting down with the albums.

Master of Treacle, Friday, 19 March 2010 09:58 (fifteen years ago)

disagree. 'the baby song' is the only throwaway moment on flip yr wig, for eg, and its what a minute or so? the rest is solid good times. what constitutes a throwaway, anyway?

Wat ho, goatee'd man? Thy skinnee jenes hath byrn'd my corneyas. (stevie), Friday, 19 March 2010 10:20 (fifteen years ago)

yeah baby song is the only one to skip on flip your wig

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 19 March 2010 23:23 (fifteen years ago)

The only thing I don't like about The Baby Song is the flubbed ending.

I have to go Zen Arcade. Heard Candy Apple first, then Warehouse, then Flip Your Wig. This was all just post-breakup (1988-89). I disliked Flip Your Wig so much (at the time) that I left off listening to the earlier stuff for a few years, didn't rediscover them til maybe 91-92. Zen Arcade was a total mental disembowelment for me. I've never quite got over it. Every few years I listen to it trying to pick out the songs I'd leave off to make it a single album and can't choose even one (except maybe "Turn on the News" which is really obvious and surface-level compared to how the rest of the record works) and go total abandon on it, massive volume, tinnitus for weeks.

Armchair Crab (staggerlee), Friday, 19 March 2010 23:31 (fifteen years ago)

For years and years, I'd have said New Day Rising, 'cause Zen Arcade made me feel like "this band will never top this" and then New Day Rising hit, and it was even tighter. And then Flip Your Wig was a big letdown, as I was hoping for at least one "Plans I Make" type song. But I've been listening to Zen Arcade, and it's the last moment before they became impressed with their own songwriting ability. They're still totally a band. They work together to make the songs blaze. Songs blaze on New Day Rising, but the people are starting to pull apart, and they've left the scene, man. Even if we didn't notice yet. Its a Rubber Soul/Revolver sort of split, between ZA/NDR.

bendy, Saturday, 20 March 2010 03:22 (fifteen years ago)

gotta be new day rising. which was also the first i heard. sometime in middle school i guess. maybe it was 9th grade.
the one i always thought was underrated is candy apple gray, so i'm glad to see so much love for it on this thread!

ian, Saturday, 20 March 2010 06:42 (fifteen years ago)

She went into the movie
She's been there ever since
She walked out to the lobby
For a box of Junior Mints

velko, Saturday, 20 March 2010 06:47 (fifteen years ago)

I have to disagree about the "left the scene" thing: They were playing $7 all-ages shows to mostly punks well into the material for Candy Apple Grey--the show where I first heard "Sorry Somehow" was the one with the massive pogo to "What's Going On." As far as pulling apart, New Day Rising opens with Mould-Hart's best collaboration, though they did bury the bass on that album.

Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 20 March 2010 18:22 (fifteen years ago)

so i voted New Day Rising again, since i havent listened to any of this since the last poll

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 20 March 2010 23:56 (fifteen years ago)

it won last time so i wouldnt be surprised if zen arcade gets the lurker vote

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 22 March 2010 02:16 (fifteen years ago)

bumpity bump

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 25 March 2010 18:44 (fifteen years ago)

For me it's Zen.

I was a massive Huskers fan and even remember declaring that Warehouse was the best thing they'd ever done when I rushed into Rough Trade to buy it, on release day.

I was only trying to blag the massive Zen Arcade poster the Rough Trade counter at the time. I was a student bastard back then. Didn't learn anything then and am thicker now.

It's still Zen Arcade.

New Day Rising if it wasn't so tinny. I get bored of saying reproduce them all - apart from Metal Circus and Everything Falls Apart which are, erm, crisp.
They should have been so much more.

Mould got to grips with production with Sugar. But that was all

Fer Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Thursday, 25 March 2010 21:31 (fifteen years ago)

though they did bury the bass on that album

'Spot' on Peter. Greg Norton's melodic bass went missing from New Day Rising onwards

Fer Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Thursday, 25 March 2010 21:38 (fifteen years ago)

Maybe he just got less melodic?

I'll get stuffed.

I loved Husker Du.

Fer Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Thursday, 25 March 2010 21:52 (fifteen years ago)

the massive Zen Arcade poster

I had that on my wall as a student, it was about 6' x 4', I loved that thing.

Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Thursday, 25 March 2010 22:17 (fifteen years ago)

I hope it's not "challops" to say that a good third of ZA bores me. It's stuff like "Pink Turns to Blue" and "Never Talking To You Again" that keeps me coming back, but stuff like them I'd rather listen to the next three albums.

filling the medicare donut hole with the semen of liberal (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 March 2010 22:18 (fifteen years ago)

though they did bury the bass on that album

'Spot' on Peter. Greg Norton's melodic bass went missing from New Day Rising onwards

Well yeah as a generality b-but 'Terms Of Psychic Warfare'!

yes, said Cam'ron & the thing was in the impression of J. Timberlake (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 25 March 2010 22:20 (fifteen years ago)

'Terms Of Psychic Warfare'

Slade's comback single!

Re: "left the scene".

Yeah, even by the end, Husker Du were still playing to people who owned at least some Clash or Dammed records, but they stopped being ballz-out on Flip Your Wig. I don't think they cared who their audience was even when they were writing songs like "Real World" and "Bricklayer". Nor do I think they were running away from the "hardcore" sound. They were an introverted band from the get go, but I feel Mould and Hart retreated into their own songbooks around the time of NDR, and that may be why Norton's presence keeps receding. Mould and Hart had found their own voices, so the presence of outside trends disappeared from the songs. Probably why some people like the last three and nothing earlier.

bendy, Thursday, 25 March 2010 22:51 (fifteen years ago)

Norton has some great runs on Warehouse, like ''Friend You've Got To Fall'' but the production does him even less favours than Mould, when y'know, with Warners and that, it should be a little less tinny.

Master of Treacle, Friday, 26 March 2010 10:01 (fifteen years ago)

didn't bob say he had to play greg's basslines for him on one du album?

Wat ho, goatee'd man? Thy skinnee jenes hath byrn'd my corneyas. (stevie), Friday, 26 March 2010 10:34 (fifteen years ago)

I thought I heard that somewhere..that bit in the OBCBYL book where Bob suggests certain people (Greg) were only in the band at that point for the money might suggest something, plus that recent interview with Grant where he suggests he wouldn't be interested in playing Greg as opposed to Mould - all a bit WTF? Greg however was still contributing material at this point, B-sides but material all the same.

Master of Treacle, Friday, 26 March 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

playing 'with' Greg

Master of Treacle, Friday, 26 March 2010 16:15 (fifteen years ago)

the weird thing was, though...that this last year at a mike watt show, grant got up with watt's band and then greg came out and they all jammed together and seemed like they were having a bro-down.

(grant actually played drums which i don't know if that's happened in years onstage)

anyway...i'd advise taking a lot of what grant says in interviews with a grain of salt, or several.

And guess what? I think Pitchfork is going to give it a BM. (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:18 (fifteen years ago)

didn't bob say he had to play greg's basslines for him on one du album?

― Wat ho, goatee'd man? Thy skinnee jenes hath byrn'd my corneyas. (stevie), Friday, March 26, 2010 10:34 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

also, not sure if that's true, but having seen Greg's current project - The Gang Font (jazz rock band with Eric Fratzke and Dave King, drummer extraordinaire of Bad Plus and Happy Apple) he's got WAAAAAYYYY more chops than you would expect...

http://www.myspace.com/thegangfontfeatinterloper

And guess what? I think Pitchfork is going to give it a BM. (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:19 (fifteen years ago)

like basically, maybe he's just been woodshedding all these years, but live he had WAY more chops than grant and bob have ever had at their respective instruments

And guess what? I think Pitchfork is going to give it a BM. (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:22 (fifteen years ago)

oh hey, i have no probs with greg at all, i think his playing (on live boots, etc) is great

Wat ho, goatee'd man? Thy skinnee jenes hath byrn'd my corneyas. (stevie), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:58 (fifteen years ago)

"but live he had WAY more chops than grant and bob have ever had at their respective instruments"

Really? I dont know about Hart, but Mould was a pretty goddamn good guitarist

Bill Magill, Friday, 26 March 2010 17:42 (fifteen years ago)

i'm not saying he's not. but i was pretty blown away, gang font was doing all sortsa fancy pants prog jazz type shit (dave king is like a next level drummer)...i was just really surprised.

And guess what? I think Pitchfork is going to give it a BM. (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 March 2010 17:46 (fifteen years ago)

(also like this was 09 or something, so like i said i don't know how much "better" in terms of chops he's gotten)

And guess what? I think Pitchfork is going to give it a BM. (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 March 2010 17:46 (fifteen years ago)

That sounds like it would be pretty fucking good, to tell you the truth.

Bill Magill, Friday, 26 March 2010 17:47 (fifteen years ago)

I'm going with Flip Your Wig, if only for "Divide & Conquer"

Alex in NYC, Friday, 26 March 2010 18:22 (fifteen years ago)

Well I remember Norton's first side project, shortly before the end of Huskers, was described by Greg in an article as 'King Crimson-influenced' so maybe he was already mr chops back then.

yes, said Cam'ron & the thing was in the impression of J. Timberlake (Jon Lewis), Friday, 26 March 2010 18:36 (fifteen years ago)

Grant Hart's new album Hot Wax is really great, and gets better the more you hear it.

Seen him twice since it came out, yes he is missing all his upper teeth. Dude's lived hard, you can see it.

thirdalternative, Friday, 26 March 2010 18:45 (fifteen years ago)

i have been waiting for someone to answer that question! thank you. all of them, eh. that's some serious shit.
how hard up does a person have to be to not get some dentures?

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Friday, 26 March 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

Hot Wax is ok, but it is patchy.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 27 March 2010 00:45 (fifteen years ago)

All solo Hüskers is patchy - Hart especially - but always, always worth your precious time. I've not picked up Hat Wicks yet (prob. will when eMu downloads refresh) but am expecting alternating brilliance & shit - "Sailor jack" I love but "Schoolbuses" = OMGvomitz so pretty much par for the course.

Armchair Crab (staggerlee), Saturday, 27 March 2010 04:46 (fifteen years ago)

saw grant hart a couple weeks ago and got to chat with him a little bit, he was in really good spirits.

voted from the gut on this poll - new day rising had to be it

iiiijjjj, Saturday, 27 March 2010 05:01 (fifteen years ago)

From the Gut is on EFA

Bill Magill, Monday, 29 March 2010 14:50 (fifteen years ago)

Candy Apple Grey is massively underrated but I have to go with New Day Rising here. No question.

Reatards Unite, Monday, 29 March 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

xp meant it literally, regrettable wordplay

iiiijjjj, Monday, 29 March 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)

I know, i was just kidding.

Bill Magill, Monday, 29 March 2010 18:45 (fifteen years ago)

oh well then you know what? i did not mean it literally, and i do not regret it. the ball is now in your court mr. magill.

iiiijjjj, Monday, 29 March 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqnvmlGeCKk

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:06 (fifteen years ago)

Really? I dont know about Hart, but Mould was a pretty goddamn good guitarist

i'm much more a hart fan, but mould is a pretty g-ddamn great guitarist.

hart's probably a better songwriter than player? but he was a fairly ferocious drummer, iirc.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:09 (fifteen years ago)

Would have loved to see them live.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 23:49 (fifteen years ago)

i probably posted this before, but this youtube clip of husker du on the minneapolis daytime chat program good company is priceless.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 31 March 2010 02:21 (fifteen years ago)

wait, this is easier:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dbdEcX1ct0

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 31 March 2010 02:21 (fifteen years ago)

Since when was Bob a Blues Brother? lol

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 02:35 (fifteen years ago)

i love all the old white-haired ladies, politely applauding, and in shock.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 31 March 2010 02:47 (fifteen years ago)

well, "love" is a strong word.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 31 March 2010 02:47 (fifteen years ago)

WOW, Good Company.

Please Do Not Swagga Jack Me (Matos W.K.), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 03:58 (fifteen years ago)

Wonder if any of the audience remember seeing the band at that tv studio.
Imagine some young kid walking around with a Husker Du teeshirt and some old granny says "oh i saw them 20 years ago" :)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 23:05 (fifteen years ago)

another highlight of that video is the good company host, who seems to be enjoying a private joke at what he'd delivered to his audience.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 31 March 2010 23:12 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1sYN0PuRs4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss-AUjwHD_Y&feature=related

lol at this guys video he made for Turn On The News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwklI4BUWJk

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 April 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)

oh well then you know what? i did not mean it literally, and i do not regret it. the ball is now in your court mr. magill.

― iiiijjjj, Monday, March 29, 2010 3:24 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Then I will admit i enjoyed the wordplay.

Bill Magill, Thursday, 1 April 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)

wish there was a youtube of data control. Its so damn sludgey and awesome.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 April 2010 14:14 (fifteen years ago)

the version on the living end is brilliant.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 April 2010 23:21 (fifteen years ago)

I listened to it again, it really is great. Wish there was a youtube up of it.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 April 2010 17:14 (fifteen years ago)

le bump

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 5 April 2010 00:17 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFyy3XB_3Y4

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 5 April 2010 04:06 (fifteen years ago)

At least a Husker Du album will win a poll next week afterall!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 00:14 (fifteen years ago)

:-|

✌.✰|ʘ‿ʘ|✰.✌ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 00:55 (fifteen years ago)

shasta hates husker du

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 April 2010 23:12 (fifteen years ago)

^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v62N98rK5a4

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 April 2010 23:21 (fifteen years ago)

flip your wig
flip your wig

kamerad, Friday, 9 April 2010 00:41 (fifteen years ago)

vote

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 11 April 2010 23:07 (fifteen years ago)

Metal Circus is near perfect but too short.
Flip Your Wig is the only song that Mould and Hart sing on together (right?)
Warehouse has one of my favourite album openers ever in the form of 'These Important Years', and I *like* the production on it.
New Day Rising is great but never did it for me for some reason.
Zen Arcade was the first Huskers album I bought for seven bucks from a dude who was selling all his records to pay parking fines without having heard of anything they did before. Kind of blew my young mind, and remains the favoured album for both musical and sentimental reasons.

spare the powder, spoil the finger (S-), Monday, 12 April 2010 00:23 (fifteen years ago)

I think the top 2 are gonna be close

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 12 April 2010 16:36 (fifteen years ago)

Not ashamed to admit that I've voting for Warehouse here - just so many songs on it that I love, as compared to all the other albums which in general I *respect* more than I out-and-out love. (Admittedly New Day Rising comes close for me.)

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 12 April 2010 16:41 (fifteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 12 April 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)

flip your wig and vote

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

new day rising, though zen arcade was the first i heard -- getting scared that warehouse is gonna take this (or come close)

contenderizer, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:44 (fifteen years ago)

no chance

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

new day rising

tylerw, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

will everything falls apart get 0 votes? or will land speed record finish last?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

Not ashamed to admit that I've voting for Warehouse here - just so many songs on it that I love, as compared to all the other albums which in general I *respect* more than I out-and-out love.

otm * 100.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

its still the one i least listen to

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:46 (fifteen years ago)

it has a few great songs but some autopilot songs and some clunkers. the rest all have better songs

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:47 (fifteen years ago)

52 votes for ndr wow

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 23:00 (fifteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)

How did you post before the results came in?

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 23:02 (fifteen years ago)

Holy shit this got a lot of votes!

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 23:03 (fifteen years ago)

i always wanted to do that
xp

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 23:03 (fifteen years ago)

but its possible. ilm reaches the end of the day but the system automatic bump hasn't kicked in yet

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 23:04 (fifteen years ago)

Huskers be popular.

I Smell Xasthur Williams (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 23:04 (fifteen years ago)

Metal Circus was robbed. Obviously suffered in the "it's only an EP" way

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 23:05 (fifteen years ago)

that's about the most voters i've seen in an ilm poll
zen arcade fwiw, but no qualms about the winner

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 23:05 (fifteen years ago)

poll shows what a great band they were

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 23:24 (fifteen years ago)

insane # of votes though

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 00:12 (fifteen years ago)

seriously

underwater, please (bear, bear, bear), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 00:22 (fifteen years ago)

i hope the people who voted for warehouse and candle apple grey are lurkers who stay lurkers.

scott seward, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 00:25 (fifteen years ago)

why are those albums so disreputable

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 00:26 (fifteen years ago)

they are horrible in comparison to the good stuff!

scott seward, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 00:27 (fifteen years ago)

they're good, just not great like the others. But those voters were hardly lurkers, they posted in the thread they were voting for those.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 00:37 (fifteen years ago)

Warehouse yes. But CAG is just plain unlikeable.

spare the powder, spoil the finger (S-), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 00:42 (fifteen years ago)

naw its good. I prefer it to warehouse. In the UK, CAG was seen as the last of their great albums. The US seems to prefer Warehouse.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 00:47 (fifteen years ago)

I dont know why anyone would prefer warehouse

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 02:40 (fifteen years ago)

i hope the people who voted for warehouse and candle apple grey are lurkers who stay lurkers.

― scott seward, Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:25 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

Well, toxic different-opinion-belittling bullshit like this doesn't exactly make people want to TRY To engage in the conversation. You'll get the board you foster, really.

Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 03:10 (fifteen years ago)

When that band played Warehouse straight through with no apologies, introductions, stage chatter, or encores to the fans (in fact there was a fuck you to the fans on college radio earlier in the day, on account of the fact that some fans were hoping for a really special show because the last local show had gotten shut down early from the noise even though everybody should have known not to put one of the loudest bands on in a new venue in the fucking suburbs; so they made it very clear we had nothing coming, and we didn't get anything other than a headache or an MIP, or maybe Christmas opening, not bad), I realized that they can live at home now, but now I am a man.

The art on that major label double is vibrant, but I voted for the earlier double on Aggressive Rock Produktionen available at your local Hastings in the import section, with slightly less vibrant treated photography.

Zachary Taylor, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 04:43 (fifteen years ago)

I dont know why anyone would prefer warehouse

imho:

"These Important Years"
"Standing in the Rain"
"Ice Cold Ice"
"Could You Be the One?"
"Friend, You've Got to Fall"
"Visionary"
"She Floated Away"
"No Reservations"
"Turn It Around"
"She's a Woman (And Now He Is a Man)"
"Up in the Air"
"You Can Live at Home"

love the 'ballads' of CAG but, 'lonely' aside, not a huge fan of its punk-pop.

i voted zen arcade btw

a rhetorical style that implies an unwritten "now taste my ass" (stevie), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 07:03 (fifteen years ago)

wish i had given metal circus a vote now

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 13:47 (fifteen years ago)

Warehouse is pretty fucking awesome.

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, I voted "NDR," but the Hart songs on "Warehouse" are killer. "She Floated Away" and "You Can Live at Home" are epic.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

yes, but unfortunately most of his songs are crap on it.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 14:16 (fifteen years ago)

my problem with Warehouse is the limp late-80s major label production and those horrible gated drums. songs are awesome live - Warehouse tour was one of the best shows I've ever seen, the encore was Turn On->Reoccurring Dreams :D

solid yet bouncy (herb albert), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

Apologies if my previous comment seemed overly harsh but seriously sometimes ILX reminds me of this exchange from one of my favourite philosopher, E. Phillips:

I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off. So I ran over and said "Stop! don't do it!" "Why shouldn't I?" he said. I said, "Well, there's so much to live for!" He said, "Like what?" I said, "Well...are you religious or atheist?" He said, "Religious." I said, "Me too! Are you christian or buddhist?" He said, "Christian." I said, "Me too! Are you catholic or protestant?" He said, "Protestant." I said, "Me too! Are you episcopalian or baptist?" He said, "Baptist!" I said,"Wow! Me too! Are you baptist church of god or baptist church of the lord?" He said, "Baptist church of god!" I said, "Me too! Are you original baptist church of god, or are you reformed baptist church of god?" He said,"Reformed Baptist church of god!" I said, "Me too! Are you reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1879, or reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1915?" He said, "Reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1915!" I said, "Die, heretic scum", and pushed him off.

Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

ILX as "a yearbook full of autographs of friends you might have had."

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 15 April 2010 13:22 (fifteen years ago)

great job grandstanding about utterly innocuous and generally friendly poster scott seward

call all destroyer, Thursday, 15 April 2010 13:31 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah I know, I like scott and generally have no problem at all with his posts - for some reason that comment really rubbed me the wrong way though. Again, apologies all around.

Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 15 April 2010 13:45 (fifteen years ago)

warehouse, since it doesn't feature the obnoxious trebly distortion of their previous efforts

A piping hot bowl of grits, Thursday, 15 April 2010 13:54 (fifteen years ago)

lol

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 15 April 2010 14:08 (fifteen years ago)

I've written a lot about Husker Du over the years--interviewed Mould and Hart in '86--so let me join in. I used to get my back up when Chuck would dimiss Candy Apple Grey and Warehouse, but sure, they're not nearly as good as Metal Circus, New Day Rising, or Flip Your Wig. (I'll leave Zen Arcade out of it, where I'm missing whatever everyone else hears.) I haven't listened to either in quite a while; I'm guessing Warehouse is the better of the two, and that Candy Apple Grey has dated the least well. I still think they're both fine records. They're just song records--I doubt they're going to affect anyone like Metal Circus affected me, but there's a bunch of good songs on Warehouse, and a few on Candy Apple Grey. If you're a band and the worst record you ever do is Candy Apple Grey, I'd say that's pretty impressive. (Ignoring that first one...)

clemenza, Thursday, 15 April 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)

Hart's snare always sounded awful on record. There was a muddiness to it on the earlier stuff but it at least sounds like a snare. It sounds godawful on Flip Your Wig, hardly there at all.

Master of Treacle, Thursday, 15 April 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

"great job grandstanding about utterly innocuous and generally friendly poster scott seward"

i'm not any of those things! i'm evil!!! grrrrrrrr!!! i eat warehouse fans for breakfast!

scott seward, Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:00 (fifteen years ago)

naw its good. I prefer it to warehouse. In the UK, CAG was seen as the last of their great albums. The US seems to prefer Warehouse.

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, April 13, 2010 8:47 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I dont know why anyone would prefer warehouse

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, April 13, 2010 10:40 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

You seem to be answering your own question here Herm. Something about Warehouse must appeal to God-fearin, gun-totin, junk food eatin, fatass yanks, while CAG appeals to people who merely fear visits to the dentist and like warm beer.

Bill Magill, Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

ugh beer

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

I'm a sap, but "These Important Years" always gets me

fischer-price my first chukkas (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

great live version, also...god bob's clothes in this clip....we should do a "Worst Dressed SST Band" poll..that would be some heavy competition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IPJLiIZMVc

fischer-price my first chukkas (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

"ugh beer"

wow, really? sometimes i wish i felt this way, because i have a seriously unhealthy love for it.

"....we should do a "Worst Dressed SST Band" poll..that would be some heavy competition."

This would be the hardest poll ever.

Bill Magill, Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

I drink Kerr's share of the beer, it all evens out in the end.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

beer owns

A piping hot bowl of grits, Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

Huskers were a sartorial trainwreck it's true... but then you had Ginn in his sweatpants flailing around next to rollins naked but for his sweat-soaked swim trunks...

Warehouse is a better single LP than CAG, once you pare off the gristle. As a double Warehouse is a debacle.

I Smell Xasthur Williams (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)

Bob Mould now = smokin' hot.

Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)

As a double Warehouse is a debacle.

ludicrous hyperbole

a rhetorical style that implies an unwritten "now taste my ass" (stevie), Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:35 (fifteen years ago)

I dont know why anyone would prefer warehouse

it's less hard-edged, and more melodic than their other discs. i love husker du, and warehouse got my vote.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:40 (fifteen years ago)

"Debacle"? Yeah--hyperbole. I remember it as being about 80% good, solid songcraft.

clemenza, Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:49 (fifteen years ago)

With the occasional vintage high point--e.g., "You're a Soldier."

clemenza, Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:50 (fifteen years ago)

Okay okay please take 'debacle' to mean 'they really really should've edited this fucker down to a long single LP'.

I mean there are some UNBEARABLE duds on that record where it feels like Bob-by-numbers and Grantbot.

I Smell Xasthur Williams (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:59 (fifteen years ago)

We need a Warehouse poll.

Officer Pupp, Friday, 16 April 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

We tried it once but she floated away

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 16 April 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

but she floated away

would be my vote!

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 16 April 2010 15:12 (fifteen years ago)

Mine too. Ice Cold Ice in 2nd place.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 16 April 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

We need a Warehouse poll.

At the risk of irritating everyone:
HÜSKER PÖLL: Warehouse - Songs and Stories

Sean Carruthers, Friday, 16 April 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)

Me, I eventually came to respect CAG (if not love it) but never, ever could get into "Warehouse". Seriously couldn't tell the Mould songs apart, seemed like each one had the same arpeggiated non-riff.

Half lies and gorilla dust (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 16 April 2010 17:24 (fifteen years ago)

It wasnt the best album to go out with

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 16 April 2010 17:35 (fifteen years ago)

Hated the title, too

Half lies and gorilla dust (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 16 April 2010 17:40 (fifteen years ago)

haha I'm beginning to think you hate Warehouse

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 16 April 2010 17:52 (fifteen years ago)

two years pass...

I count Metal Circus as the first review of mine ever published--soon after it came out, in a University of Toronto paper called The Varsity. (A friend of mine ran a review of Damaged in his campus paper a year or so earlier, but it was so badly mangled--the friendship remains intact--that one's in purgatory.) I gushed--boy, did I gush. In my defense, it was a record worth gushing over.

clemenza, Thursday, 14 June 2012 00:18 (twelve years ago)


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