...if my title made sense.
I have a Humanities (history, essentially)/English teacher who is very culturally and musically aware, from literature to movies: She's just as fond of Cormac McCarthy as she is of Yeates. Just as fond of Spike Jonze as she is of Coppola.
But as far as music goes, she has deemed that corporations have taken over music and that there is no longer any sense of originality in music, that it all aspires to thinks that can make us dance but do nothing more. She really fits the hipster mentality, but remember this is an old hippie speaking.
I'm actual one of her favorite students and she tends to trust my judgement in most everything, and something I'd like to prove to her is that music today just doesn't suck. She seems to only be aware of Beyonce and Lady Gaga, but I want to show her that there is music today just as powerful as it was back in the '60's/70's/whatever and yet sounds nothing like. No "revivalism" bands please: Grizzly Bear, Surfer Blood, Olivia Tremor Control all come to mind. Those are bands that have some catchy stuff, but end up sounding like they're paying far too many homages to the old era of rock and roll. (For example = Grizzly Bear is a shitty Beach Boys)
So far these are what I'm considering having her listen to (it's a class presentation, via a mixtape/CD):
My Bloody Valentine - Soon/To Here Knows Whensomething off Sonic Youth's "Daydream Nation"Boards of Canada - Dayvan Cowboysomething Aphex TwinPavement - In The Mouth A DesertAnimal Collective - anything off Merriwether Post Pavillion... I think "Bluish" and "Brothersport"'ll be good. Tell me if I'm wrong.
Keep in mind she's a teacher that hates the grunge movement, thinks rap "has cool beats and lyrics and all but really has no true emotional depth" (I actually sort of agree, admittedly. Nothing really tops rock.), and has found that in old age that classic music appeals to her the best. I know post-rock immediately comes to mind but I can't really showcase a GYBE! song in a 5-minute presentation. She hates metal, she calls it excessive.
Also realize I'm not attacking her generation, but trying to convince her that the "ours" is just as viable a musical force as hers was, just under different commercial circumstances.
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 02:48 (fifteen years ago)
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― a modest crowd, not jammed (Eazy), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 02:51 (fifteen years ago)
Oh yeah, and I already have Radiohead's "OK Computer". Just to avoid the 827430598743098579235 suggestions of that I should expect.
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 02:51 (fifteen years ago)
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― a modest crowd, not jammed (Eazy), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 02:53 (fifteen years ago)
What music does she think is good?
― Mark, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 02:55 (fifteen years ago)
http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/2647b5ce244d844161c4826677ae4384/1333154.jpg
― van smack, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 03:00 (fifteen years ago)
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― ksh, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 03:02 (fifteen years ago)
i'm afraid your plan won't work, music does actually suck :(
― jabba hands, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 03:09 (fifteen years ago)
A lot of those artists peaked 20+ years ago, and aren't really responding to a wired & pomo world. Imagine a Woodstock attendee justifying their generation's music to their parents by playing something from 1949.
I don't know if I can help you, my tastes only tangentally touch upon the peripheries of pop, so I can't say they're of this time. Given a similar assignment, I'd cherry pick items off albums like The Knife's Silent Shout, Dani Siciliano's Slappers, Trost's Trust Me, School of Seven Bell's Alpinisms, St. Vincent's Actor, etc. none of which could quite exist in their form prior to the last decade. But they have about zero relevance to the popular zeitgeist...
Oh, and of course Scott Walker. But he's older than your professor.
― Sanpaku, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 03:09 (fifteen years ago)
that Jolie Holland album is a great choice.
― Ervin "Death Grip" Michaels (res), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 03:10 (fifteen years ago)
Also play her some GHOSTFACE KILLAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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― dazzle shjips (Future_Perfect), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 03:11 (fifteen years ago)
to find your answer, think, what would momus recommend? answer: a japanese guy hooking up a bloop machine to a potato and dancing around it wearing a 10 sizes-too-large burlap sack
― Spectrum, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 03:36 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.netweed.com/prohiphop/graf2/brokencyde-im-not-a-fan.jpg
― fuckin' lame, bros (latebloomer), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 03:38 (fifteen years ago)
i burned a high school substitute teacher who had similar opinions on new rap a copy of madvillainy, pretty sure it blew his mind (or at least changed it.)
― tmi finney (samosa gibreel), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 03:46 (fifteen years ago)
i burned a high school substitute teacher
^^^^ Alternative solution.
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 03:54 (fifteen years ago)
temptation 2 just say fuck this boomer shithead (imo)
― acoustic bugaloo (m bison), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 03:58 (fifteen years ago)
my forefathers put their lives on the line in the grunge movement, and we will never forget
― acoustic bugaloo (m bison), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 04:00 (fifteen years ago)
commercial grunge will be on oldies stations soon....
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 04:01 (fifteen years ago)
Classic rock station was playing Pearl Jam & Nirvana & Alice in Chains five years ago.
― Ponies are horse children (Abbott), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 04:02 (fifteen years ago)
really? the ones here still are stuck on steely dan
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 04:03 (fifteen years ago)
I mean they still get the Led out for drive time, don't get me wrong.
― Ponies are horse children (Abbott), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 04:16 (fifteen years ago)
i think "brothersport" is a good idea, except part of its charm is the repetition and change, which would be hard to convey from any specific point in the song. since you only have 5 minutes, conveying depth of songwriting is going to be impossible if you want to show more than one or two songs. i really like "lust for life" by girls, specifically because it's like a little pocket symphony in 2 minutes... and that absolutely killer opening line (and the way the line is explained by the rest of the song), but it also does have a bit of a 60s vibe to it. anyway, and i think you already seem to be doing this, you'll have to show her how the texture/timbre of rock music has changed and expanded. bands that have impressive textures (like fuck buttons or something) might be an avenue to go down.
and grunge does suck, but rap has a lot of depth. also, it's impossible to tell a child of the 60s that their music wasn't the most important, world-changing thing ever. so don't expect much.
― zingzing, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 04:23 (fifteen years ago)
damn ilm trolls have gotten so good
― iatee, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 04:24 (fifteen years ago)
"Nothing really tops rock"
Yeah that smells trolly. But yeah BrokeNCYDE! = best answer.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 04:35 (fifteen years ago)
yea making sweeping statements about the superiority of a genre is dubious since how do you objectively measure the whole thing...plus the idea that rap has no substance=lol worthy
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 04:37 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah but as far as rap goes you just really don't see the sort of divergence in musical spectrum in rock than you see in rap. It's beats and rhymes. Rock can encompass subgenre after subgenre, rap is sort of secluded into its mainstream/underground and both obviously sound different but there's far too little a difference to even hold a candle to rock's number of varieties. Just my /2cents, not hers. Also, I've never felt ecstatic listening to rap as I can with rock bands like My Bloody Valentine, there's a lot of emotions missing from rap which tends to be be monochromatic in it's range.
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:09 (fifteen years ago)
Also, I've never felt ecstatic listening to rap as I can with rock bands like My Bloody Valentine, there's a lot of emotions missing from rap which tends to be be monochromatic in it's range.
fruity crazy swag crew to thread
― ksh, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:18 (fifteen years ago)
No "revivalism" bands please: Grizzly Bear, Surfer Blood, Olivia Tremor Control all come to mind. Those are bands that have some catchy stuff, but end up sounding like they're paying far too many homages to the old era of rock and roll. (For example = Grizzly Bear is a shitty Beach Boys)
Animal Collective is also a shitty Beach Boys IMO
― róisin bran (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:21 (fifteen years ago)
xp sorry but not touching this one
― he's a radric mane (The Reverend), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:22 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBrRBZy8OTs
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:23 (fifteen years ago)
Why don't you play her some Beirut?
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:23 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah but as far as rap goes you just really don't see the sort of divergence in musical spectrum in rock than you see in rap. It's beats and rhymes.
That's like saying rock is just guitars and singing and drums. That's all I'm going to say.
― rennavate, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:25 (fifteen years ago)
there's a lot of emotions missing from rap which tends to be be monochromatic in it's range.
i'm officially never opening this thread again. good luck in here, y'all!
― i'm so j0rd with the u.S.a (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:27 (fifteen years ago)
http://image.libro.co.kr/music/f75/f754143ETEB02L._SL500_AA240_.jpg
― Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:28 (fifteen years ago)
kjb!
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:28 (fifteen years ago)
as a Loveless fan, I am shocked that a Loveless fan is complaining about music that is "monochromatic in it's range." Most hip-hop albums have far greater divergence in form, texture, rhythm, and musical influence than any MBV album.
― róisin bran (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:28 (fifteen years ago)
There's no such thing as post-rap, math-rap, progressive-rap, garage-rap, power-rap, psychedelic-rap, punk-rap, new wave-rap, industrial-rap, folk rap, core-rap, nu-rap, dream-rap.... is what I was trying to say.
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:33 (fifteen years ago)
lol
― róisin bran (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:35 (fifteen years ago)
smh
― ksh, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:36 (fifteen years ago)
Method Man's voice does not count as texture change.
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:36 (fifteen years ago)
J0rdan, deej, some dude to thread
― ksh, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:37 (fifteen years ago)
kevin shields' effects box does not count as texture change
― róisin bran (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:38 (fifteen years ago)
Kel is right seeing as how my two favorite genres are core-rock and new wave-rock.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:38 (fifteen years ago)
kelpolaris i think you should play your professor anything that will cause him to stab you repeatedly
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:39 (fifteen years ago)
Difference is that an effects pedal is not innate.
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:44 (fifteen years ago)
Folk is a type of rock now??? News to me!
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:45 (fifteen years ago)
I don't know how that makes a difference xp
― róisin bran (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:47 (fifteen years ago)
xpost
folk-rock, invented in 2002 by the visionary Okkervil River
― ksh, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:48 (fifteen years ago)
ironically, there is such thing as rap rock
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:48 (fifteen years ago)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_rock
ya i beat yo ass
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:48 (fifteen years ago)
I thought we were still in 1991 on this thread??
― róisin bran (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:48 (fifteen years ago)
kel! That's a type of folk music, not a type of rock music!!!!!!!
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:49 (fifteen years ago)
You lose.
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:49 (fifteen years ago)
― kelpolaris
lol'ing 4 real
― ksh, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:50 (fifteen years ago)
folk metal >> rap metal >> rock metal >> rap folk >> folk rock >> folk folk >> rock rock
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:50 (fifteen years ago)
like Lucille in Arrested Development i crack myself up
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:52 (fifteen years ago)
I don't really. in terms of the compositional definition of a textural change it doesn't make any difference whether the textural change is coming from the sound source or a filtering/effects device. Or whether it's coming from the human voice vs. an instrument vs an artificially/electronically produced sound.
the bigger point I was trying to make is that rap is more than just "beats and rhymes" and the fact that you think it is just beats and rhymes reveals you don't actually listen to rap music and therefore probably should heed to the authority of ppl who actually know something about it
― róisin bran (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:54 (fifteen years ago)
it doesn't make any difference
To who?
Then please, tell me what else it happens to be.
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:58 (fifteen years ago)
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― ksh, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:00 (fifteen years ago)
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― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:01 (fifteen years ago)
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― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:02 (fifteen years ago)
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― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:03 (fifteen years ago)
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lol'ing 4 real rite now
― ksh, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:04 (fifteen years ago)
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― róisin bran (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:04 (fifteen years ago)
we haven't had a good old-fashioned image-bomb in a while
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:05 (fifteen years ago)
I endorse this one fully
― róisin bran (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:05 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF4JTd61xco
― jabba hands, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:06 (fifteen years ago)
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― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:06 (fifteen years ago)
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― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:07 (fifteen years ago)
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― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:08 (fifteen years ago)
RONG
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:08 (fifteen years ago)
great point
― ksh, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:09 (fifteen years ago)
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― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:09 (fifteen years ago)
CATTLE GRIND IS IN THE BUILDING
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― róisin bran (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:09 (fifteen years ago)
god it's good to be back
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:09 (fifteen years ago)
A+ thread
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:10 (fifteen years ago)
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― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:10 (fifteen years ago)
I keep hoping ksh will call OP a SP and then the circle of life will be complete.
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― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:11 (fifteen years ago)
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― ksh, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:11 (fifteen years ago)
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― róisin bran (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:11 (fifteen years ago)
HOTLINKING IS THEFT
― ksh, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:12 (fifteen years ago)
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― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:13 (fifteen years ago)
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― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:33 (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i am ashamed at not having a 'snoop dogg smh.gif' handy.
post-rap, math-rap, prog-rap, garage-rap (commonly known as grime over here buddy), ummm... most hiphop dun' gon' be powerful, Edan's Beauty And The Beat >>>>>>>> every psychedelic rock record ever made, punk is a shitty word for saying 'made on the cheap'? yeah? like most hiphop ever... or if you mean shit with loud guitars we have that to, new wave-rap.... really? check a fucking Blondie record and wonder if this exists..., industrial...? isnt that shit like dudes just being a bit shit at making metal? yeah we have lame biters in hip-hop, folk rap def. fucking exists no matter how much we wish Wyclef would fuck the fuck off again, core-rap what does that even mean? you sort of got lost here didn't you, nu-rap oh noes rap doesn't have a genre the equivilant of another genre ripping off rap records and making really shitty shit shit, dream-rap... do you mean like shoegaze? well... bama been dreamier than yr momma for a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF7pK1oQBIw
Or alternatively, high five Sarge.
― he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:16 (fifteen years ago)
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― róisin bran (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:16 (fifteen years ago)
sorry sam
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:16 (fifteen years ago)
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― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:17 (fifteen years ago)
ha its cool man. being pre-caffiene, i was stupid enough to try and reason w/ the troll instead of take the correct route:
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― he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:19 (fifteen years ago)
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― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:20 (fifteen years ago)
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― he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:23 (fifteen years ago)
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― he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:24 (fifteen years ago)
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― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:28 (fifteen years ago)
Diod this thread die because OP doesn't like hip hop? Because I was just thinking this was an interesting premise.
― No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:32 (fifteen years ago)
I don't really get all these image jokes but I just dropped by this thread to say that jazz is also a genre. I would recommend The Thing, modern free improv.
Also, recent work by Peter Hammill (Thin Air).
― anagram, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:34 (fifteen years ago)
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― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:35 (fifteen years ago)
i don't get these image jokes either, but i just dropped by this thread to tell kelpolaris to eat a how bowl of Dicks
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:37 (fifteen years ago)
looool at ice t calling out aimee mann. really hope she disses him on her next record, gal has punchlines.
nick - not so much rong with disliking hiphop its the 'hey i bet rappers couldn't ever think of anything as innovative as nu-metal!' smug bullshit.
― he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:40 (fifteen years ago)
something off Sonic Youth's "Daydream Nation"
You're planning on defending the music of your generation using something that presumably came out before you were born?
― neden magnet (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:42 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtYgBV4mCNc&feature=PlayList&p=BC64B018DF57E830&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=20
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:44 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P-i4nq3vOM
― jabba hands, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:46 (fifteen years ago)
― ksh, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:04 (47 minutes ago) Bookmark
― pretty girl, filking a clown (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:54 (fifteen years ago)
looool at ice t calling out aimee mann. really hope she disses him on her next record, gal has punchlines.nick - not so much rong with disliking hiphop its the 'hey i bet rappers couldn't ever think of anything as innovative as nu-metal!' smug bullshit.
Sadly I was only skimming this thread & missed that! Yes, idiocy.
― No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 07:56 (fifteen years ago)
because of this thread I am now listening to Edan's 'Beauty And The Beat' straight through - I mean I did download it only like a week ago
― pretty girl, filking a clown (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 08:01 (fifteen years ago)
Ha, that album seems like 'lj getting into hiphop' bait if there ever was one.
― he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 08:03 (fifteen years ago)
totally goin' in fwiw
― pretty girl, filking a clown (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 08:04 (fifteen years ago)
Dudes, y'all are on some stupid shit with this image bombing crap. I think this guy's questions need to be seriously addressed.
― he's a radric mane (The Reverend), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 08:46 (fifteen years ago)
naw, j/k
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― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 08:50 (fifteen years ago)
― he's a radric mane (The Reverend), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 08:50 (fifteen years ago)
ok that dr. phil punchline of me going... charles hamilton, maybe? that was someone, right? was a+
― he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 08:52 (fifteen years ago)
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― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 08:54 (fifteen years ago)
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― he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 08:56 (fifteen years ago)
daaaamn, O44 has 2 right hands? that's how he did it
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 09:04 (fifteen years ago)
http://youbrokemytaco.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/chav2.jpg
― Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 09:18 (fifteen years ago)
<3 you guys
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 11:58 (fifteen years ago)
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― fuck in rainbows, ☔ (dyao), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 11:59 (fifteen years ago)
― acoustic bugaloo (m bison), Monday, April 12, 2010 11:58 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
what is wrong with this generation that we feel the need to convince our parents that we produce valid cultural products
― max, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 12:04 (fifteen years ago)
also cormac mccarthy suxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
― max, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 12:05 (fifteen years ago)
it all aspires to thinks that can make us dance but do nothing more
she sucks
yeah white boomer music was rubbish at making folks dance
― he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 12:09 (fifteen years ago)
this thread was very entertaining
― meisenfek, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 12:37 (fifteen years ago)
for you maybe, perhaps less so for the questioner
― anagram, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 12:51 (fifteen years ago)
― max, Tuesday, April 13, 2010 7:04 AM (47 minutes ago)
parents just don't understand
― acoustic bugaloo (m bison), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 12:54 (fifteen years ago)
LOLCOLLEGE
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 13:17 (fifteen years ago)
Also, liking both Spike Jonze and Coppola (which one?) doesn't necc. = culturally aware (especially since the two are connected anyways)
Aside from that, and that contemporary music is not entirely rock and hip-hop, there's nothing I can't say that a repeated picture/gif has already stated that much more articulately.
― Tonight I Dine on Turtle Soup (EDB), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 13:55 (fifteen years ago)
mccarthy's ok, wth
― goole, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)
People who think that music sucks today and everything was better 40 years ago will never change, there has never been a moment in time where a number of people haven't felt that music today is shit, back in my day music was REAL. Her position clearly isn't borne from tireless exploration of contemporary music if she only knows the most popular pop stars, it's a mixture of laziness and nostalgia and there's absolutely nothing you can do to change her mind.
― musically, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)
OTM. I've never understood why people can't admit that they've gotten old, lost interest, or been left behind rather than making claims that everything went to shit when they turned 25.
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 14:48 (fifteen years ago)
mccarthy sucks and everyone knows it, get with the program
― max, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)
... because people are self-involved? (xp)
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/classic.png
― caek, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 14:52 (fifteen years ago)
xp Maybe partly because, when they say skeptical things, stupid kids play them boring lifeless stuff like most of what keypolaris is suggesting and claim that it's the best recent music out there? Just a thought. (Btw, if she's 50, she's barely a boomer -- born toward the tail-end of the boom, anyway -- and is probably too young to be a "an old hippie," given that she was only seven years old in 1967. Also, I'm almost her age, I like lots of recent music of all kinds that leaves keypolaris's suggestions in the dust - I easily could work up top 100s for the past few years if I had to -- and I still think music was a lot better 30 or 40 years ago. It's honestly not an insane thing to think.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)
I'm still back on picking "Dayvan Cowboy" as the Boards of Canada representative and not, like, practically anything Music Has A Right To Children including the interludes.
Why don't you just play The Bjork and The Sugarcubes for her and call it a day?
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:01 (fifteen years ago)
lol at Charles Hamilton getting punched!
― De que estas hablando? (Tannenbaum Schmidt), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:02 (fifteen years ago)
I like lots of recent music of all kinds that leaves keypolaris's suggestions in the dust - I easily could work up top 100s for the past few years if I had to
He's not asking for hundreds, just a few, and you could easily have named them in the time it took you to write that post. it wouldn't have hurt to actually help the guy out rather than coming over all lofty.
xxp
― anagram, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:04 (fifteen years ago)
that's what the previous generation does; it's endemic and we will be doing it soon enough (some of us already are)
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)
when you are 15, yr friends love music too: it is awesome to be young and love music, and yr parents and teachers are too old for your young person music and are scared of how loud and revolutionary and futuristic it is
when you are 25 and you love seeing new music even though yr friends don't care, you know age will never stop you loving new music, because you are just too into it
when you are 40 and all the new bands sound like shit, it is not because you are old, no sir - you know this because you are not scared of its loudness or cutting-edge-ness, it is just dumbed-down boring gimmicky versions of the music from when you were 15
nobody in stage 3 wants to admit the old folks in stage 1 probably felt just the same, and no cd-r or itunes playlist will change their mind. good luck though!
(ps do we know what music she does like? I know you don't want revivalists but a hint of things - whether genres or just e.g. textures vs lyrics or whatever - that appeal to her would be a good starting point)
― falling while carrying an owl (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:07 (fifteen years ago)
I really have no time for someone who claims that rap has no emotional depth
― fuck in rainbows, ☔ (dyao), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:07 (fifteen years ago)
'juciy' is the only song I know that can damn near bring me to tears every time I listen to it
― fuck in rainbows, ☔ (dyao), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)
people probably would've been opening to give the dude suggestions if he didn't repeatedly and close-mindedly slag off an entire genre a huge crossection of ilxor's really care about
― ksh, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:11 (fifteen years ago)
or if the genre he were slagging off were indie rock -- then, he would've gotten suggestions too
― ksh, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:12 (fifteen years ago)
the entire thing is a fool's errand which is why i did not suggest anything
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)
well, that too
― ksh, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)
btw is there any reason not to lock this thread at this point? no one seems to want to actually engage in a good faith conversation about the topic and, had I been around earlier, the image bombers all would have been banned from the thread
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)
lock it
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:14 (fifteen years ago)
nope -- lock thread time
― ksh, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:14 (fifteen years ago)
Plenty of threads you can recommend rap in. This isn't one. :(
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)
RIP
― ksh, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)
fart
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)
well I want to engage in it but it seems like I'm in a minority of one so go ahead and put the poor fucker out of its misery
― anagram, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)
dont lock this thread i think were on the verge of a breakthrough
― max, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)
dude, Vampire Weekend
― solid yet bouncy (herb albert), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)
BREAKTHROUGH ACHIEVED, LOCK THREAD
― max, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)
Joanna Newsom unicorn
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)
hipster dog sunglasses
people probably would've been opening to give the dude suggestions if he didn't repeatedly and close-mindedly slag off an entire genre
Not just one genre -- lots of genres, both by what he included and what he didn't. So yeah, given his suggestions (and honestly, suggestions of most of the people who posted immediately after him), I seriously doubt that he would have any interest in mine. And if he does, they're pretty widely available elsewhere. (Btw, I guess she could be an old hippie, but only in the sense that Phish fans are hippies. If she was, say, a hippie when she was 16 in 1976, instead of liking Aerosmith or disco or whatever, it would've totally been a nostalgia move.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)
in before gapdy
― fuck in rainbows, ☔ (dyao), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)
"My Big 10 Inch Record," by Aerosmith
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)
*plop*
― Big Fate (as Alvin 'Xzibit' Joiner) (history mayne), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:18 (fifteen years ago)
GAPDY
― ksh, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)
while you wait for the others, to make this thread worthwhile
people probably would've been opening to give the dude suggestions if he didn't repeatedly and close-mindedly slag off an entire genreNot just one genre -- lots of genres, both by what he included and what he didn't. So yeah, given his suggestions (and honestly, suggestions of most of the people who posted immediately after him), I seriously doubt that he would have any interest in mine. And if he does, they're pretty widely available elsewhere. (Btw, I guess she could be an old hippie, but only in the sense that Phish fans are hippies. If she was, say, a hippie when she was 16 in 1976, instead of liking Aerosmith or disco or whatever, it would've totally been a nostalgia move.)― xhuxk, Tuesday, April 13, 2010 10:17 AM (3 minutes ago)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, April 13, 2010 10:17 AM (3 minutes ago)
yeah, you're right xhuxk. i was just harping on the rap thing b/c he was repeatedly saying how inferior it was and how it has no emotional depth which is looooool
― ksh, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)
fwiw I would absolutely recommend tons of hip-hop, including stuff that everyone else on the board will clown me for (like the second Lupe Fiasco album; you really can't say that there is no emotional depth in tracks like "Hip Hop Saved My Life", "Streets on Fire", "Gotta Eat" or "Hello/Goodbye (Uncool)"), but even in terms of things like, the first 3 Public Enemy albums, or practically everything Kanye West has done, or Common, or Eminem in "Lose Yourself" or "Stan" mode, or Salt N Pepa, or Grandmaster Flash's "The Message", or Slick Rick, or De La Soul Is Dead, or The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, or a slew of the NWA-affiliated releases, or the Wu-Tang releases, or a bazillion more that aren't coming to mind because I'm being too corny to think of them or I just don't like them
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)
but since that's not what you're looking for, play her some Vampire Weekend, some Bjork, some Big Black, some Joanna Newsom and some City High and call it a day
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)
btw kshighway, take a look at the name of the knucklehead who authored this thread on why hip hop has no emotional depth
The Limitations of Hip-hop
― tmi finney (samosa gibreel), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)
oh yeah, Outkast
duh
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)
I went through the same phase in college, where I was trying to make mixes for my professor Murray Krugman (producer of Blue Oyster Cult), to show him what new artists are worth his time. He was most receptive to the bands that were more retro like Black Mountain and Drive-By Truckers. He cannot be converted though, and will continue to release this stuff on his label, and not have any clue why the lady on the cover was mad at him after this: http://www.dylancollector.com/kinkyfriedman/varbestkerrville2.jpg
Slightly bigger here: http://www.silverwolfmusic.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/28/products_id/98
― Evan, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)
looool at that limitations of hip hop thread: sad guy who listens to sad guy music sad because rap does not make him feel like a sad guy
― fuck in rainbows, ☔ (dyao), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)
okay massive lol @ that album cover, very glad I didn't lock this thrad
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.videohumors.com/data/cristie-kerr-trophy-kiss.jpg
― fuck in rainbows, ☔ (dyao), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)
― tmi finney (samosa gibreel), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:34 (fifteen years ago)
If the original poster had said something like "I want to focus on rock because that's where my professor's interest lie" or even "Rap may be too inaccessible for my professor", would they have gotten better answers or would the ILM mob still have descended?
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)
well, yes
that is the only way the ILM mob knows how to communicate
the difference is that a bunch of the people who decided it wasn't worth answering the question would have offered up suggestions as opposed to rolling their eyes and sighing
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)
as it stands, all dude basically said was "i'm not trying to turn her onto any rap music, because i'm not fully convinced myself"
― tmi finney (samosa gibreel), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)
image post was still v lol though
*bomb
eh i dont think that theres any way this question could have been phrased that wouldnt have led to this
― max, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)
like i read the thread title and knew that it was in for an image bomb, didnt even have to bring rap into it
― max, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)
it wasn't so much 'my professor doesn't like rap' it was more 'I agree with her and will spend my time on this thread trying to defend that viewpoint' at which point it became obvious that perhaps the OP was in more dire need of a musical reeducation than the professor
― fuck in rainbows, ☔ (dyao), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)
btw I didn't bother reading the rest of the thread so I assume someone else mentioned The Mountain Goats and Final Fantasy/Owen Pallett already?
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)
Rap & emotional depth
― ksh, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)
dude could've easily circumvented imagebomb with something like, "hip-hop is a huge blindspot for me, so if you could limit your recommendations to non-hip-hop, that'd be best since i won't be able to appreciate what makes a great hip-hop song great"
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)
i mean i cant speak for anyone else but this is one of those questions that is built to fail imo--i just hate the idea of "proving" to someone that "rap doesnt suck" or "modern music is ok" or whatever via a few carefully curated albums. it feels like ceding the argument to the other person before youve even had it.
― max, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.silverwolfmusic.com/catalog/images/latenight.jpg http://www.transdiffusion.org/emc/behindthescreens/images/transdiffusion_2_sausage.jpg
― neden magnet (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)
really, really dont think it was the hip hop thing yall
these kinds of threads so rarely do well on ilm
single hip hop rec for the prof and for kelpolaris: The Coup's "Me and Jesus the Pimp in a '79 Granada Last Night"
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)
max otm
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)
srs ans: these things happen by epiphany rather than argument. if your prof doesn't want to engage then who cares, it's not your problem to solve. it isn't even a problem.
ie what m bison said, basically.
― goole, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)
also; couldn't dude just go hit up Pazz and Jop from the last couple years, pick some albums he thinks are great and representative and play those? How the hell could people on ILX know what will change his aging hippie professor's mind?
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)
lol you mean there isn't a consensus about the *important music of our time*?????
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)
http://reactionarycentury.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/vampire-weekend-for-web_0.jpg
― ksh, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)
i've had a huge amount of success turning my parents onto brand new music, mostly because i was raised on their music and i know what they love, so i know exactly who to play for them. i don't play the new Animal Collective (or even the new Mastodon) and then get frustrated that they don't realize my music is as good as theirs (btw value judgement lulz). I play them Iron + Wine, Neko Case, Laura Marling, The Very Best, etc and they love it.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)
unicorn rock
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)
my serious answer is to just make a bunch of lists/music for the professor, and repeat until he/she finds stuff they like. it's so easy and fun to make a mix cd, making a bunch is a good idea.
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)
watching my dad go even more nutso for Seal than I did back in '91 was very entertaining, although not quite as entertaining as watching my mom go nutso for Portishead in '94
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)
srs ans: if you want to know what contemporary music ilm likes check out the 2009 album and singles poll we just finished. seems you are basing your argument on mostly 90's alternative rock at the moment, but if you're looking for consensus and you're asking people who post to this website
(TOP 5 TODAY, MOFOS!) Yo P&J, I'm really happy for you, Imma let you finish, but ILX had the greatest 2009 poll of all time! All time! (2009 ILX Albums Poll Results) Yo P&J, I'm really happy for you, Imma let you finish, but ILX had the greatest 2009 poll of all time! All time! (2009 ILX Trax Poll Results: TOP TEN TODAY)
― tmi finney (samosa gibreel), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)
if that fails, play lots and lots of Jedward
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)
i've known a lot of people like this. believe me there is no point trying to take on this particular challenge. she may have a phd but this is basically equiv to a million ppl whose facebook says "a little of everything but no rap or country!!!"
― goole, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)
mordy otm, listening to music at home on the speakers is a delicate art of being realistic and mindful of other people's sensibilities
― tmi finney (samosa gibreel), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)
blast ke$ha & just text on ur phone 4 the entire length of the presentation imo
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)
It seems pretty unlikely that this teacher is going to have the deep emotional reaction that the poster is trying for during a 5-minute class presentation.
― o. nate, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 16:03 (fifteen years ago)
if i'm being more charitable, reading about some of this music first might help, honestly. having the context and/or character of a song laid out beforehand might make listening a little easier, when just hearing a song in a completely alien style or genre is basically meaningless -- all a novice listener will hear are the most basic genre signifiers (especially a very resistant smartypants novice listener)
― goole, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 16:03 (fifteen years ago)
MIA benefits more from backstory explanation/lyrics sheets than possibly any other artist in my collection
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)
4'33 in 2010
― fuck in rainbows, ☔ (dyao), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)
goole is right. if you actually want to undertake this project--and i cant really imagine why you would--you should explain to her what you like about the music and why. the only thing thats ever gotten me to like stuff i didnt want to was really terrific, really persuasive criticism
― max, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)
Joanna Newsom is a good idea though - not too loud or rhythmic, soft and pretty, ostentatiously literate lyrics, idiosyncratic singing (not too corporate sounding).
― o. nate, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)
honestly i think JN is not a good idea--her voice is polarizing
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)
^^^why this whole thing is so subjective, who knows, she could love JN!
Well, she may not like the voice but the harp playing will impress a classical fan.
― o. nate, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)
I'm actual one of her favorite students and she tends to trust my judgement
maybe respondents could suggest songs that describe this dynamic?
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)
would love to see the whole class' reaction to you blasting Joanna Newsom as your Exhibit A
― solid yet bouncy (herb albert), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)
thought she was getting blasted elsewhere
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/d/dixon_bill~_tapestrie_101b.jpg
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 16:15 (fifteen years ago)
http://img.skitch.com/20100413-meniunyepbjr7w1pn7m7gt2mxn.jpg
― etrian odysseus (cozen), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 16:17 (fifteen years ago)
Or maybe some Nellie McKay - clever lyrics, melodic gifts, a bit jazzier than Newsom but has the same sort of precocious talent that might appeal to a 50-year old humanities teacher. She even has a song supposedly about having a crush on a professor ("David"), which is probably not too obvious so as to be embarrassing.
― o. nate, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 16:19 (fifteen years ago)
differences between all the amazing subgenres of rock probably seem less pronounced when you're not invested in the culture -- matter of perspective
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 16:19 (fifteen years ago)
you should explain to her what you like about the music and why.
otm. It doesn't really matter whether there's any 'good music' out there or whether it's all too corporate (art and money have been strange bedfellows for millenia afaict); people will continue to listen to music, to make music and rate it and that won't stop because of her. Tell her what contemp music you prize means to you or what it might mean to others who actually care. She isn't going to stop future music but as a humanities prof, she should have some idea where it might lead and how different sub-genres and social subsets might interact.
― Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 16:20 (fifteen years ago)
Though maybe one of McKay's rap songs would be most appropriate under the circumstances.
― o. nate, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 16:20 (fifteen years ago)
"believe me there is no point trying to take on this particular challenge."This challenge is totally surmountable, and you should use the same strategy as trying to convince someone to vote for your political candidate -- Boil down what her values are, find where those values are expressed in your candidate, and point them out.This is even easier since she already likes Spike Jonze -- Spike Jonze can stump for Pharcyde and Daft Punk.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 16:35 (fifteen years ago)
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, April 13, 2010 2:39 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark
Still lolling. Getting the prof's gender wrong makes it even funnier
― I Smell Xasthur Williams (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 16:41 (fifteen years ago)
ok since some people are being babies about a thread started by an obvious troll (I suspect the culprit is either anagram or xhuxk) and featuring the most righteous (and hilarious - thank you cozen!) image bombing in history, here's what I would have said on a serious thread:
Provide your professor not with music but with questions:
she has deemed that corporations have taken over music
When didn't corporations take over music? And what exactly does "take over" mean? How does the music she love escape the taint of The Corporation? Are there any ways in which corporate influence/interference can produce positive, even progressive effects?
there is no longer any sense of originality in music
What is her sense of originality? How does she define it? What music fits her definition? Is there not something about the quest for originality that dovetails perfectly with a corporate mentality?
that it all aspires to thinks that can make us dance but do nothing more
Tim F to thread but is there nothing political or progressive about dancing/dance music? What is the "more" she requires of music?
She seems to only be aware of Beyonce and Lady Gaga
What are her thoughts on these artists and their music? Why precisely do they (presumably) suck?
I want to show her that there is music today just as powerful as it was back in the '60's/70's/whatever
When is her cutoff date? Why this date?
she's a teacher that hates the grunge movement
Why?
thinks rap "has cool beats and lyrics and all but really has no true emotional depth"
How does she define "true emotional depth?" What are the potential shortcomings of music that has "true emotional depth?"
has found that in old age that classic music appeals to her the best
Why does she think this? How does she define "classic?"
And to you I'd ask:
How different are "our" commercial circumstances?
Also, as noted above, almost all of your examples are 20-plus years old. Sorta self-defeating.
And if all else fails, "fuck this boomer shithead" (although she's a bit too young to be a Boomer, speaking generationally not ideologically).
Or play her Attack Attack!: "Stick Stickly." It is all musics.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:34 (fifteen years ago)
P.S. When did David Archuleta join Vampire Weekend?
― Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:40 (fifteen years ago)
dare i say it, but kjb otm
― goole, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:42 (fifteen years ago)
I think kelpolarising should spend 5 minutes explaining to the class that the professor is clearly racist, homophobic, sexist, ageist, and ethnocentric (McCarthy and Yeats? wow, what range). I'm only half-kidding. Understanding some of the assumptions that are lurking behind statements like "disco/rap/pop sucks" definitely helped me lose some cultural blinkers. Of course, kelpolaris obviously hasn't done that yet so...
― elephant rob, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:43 (fifteen years ago)
culprit is either anagram or xhuxk
Nah, not me. I think another smart thing to point out is that rock in the '60s and '70s was more dance-oriented than now, not less.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:47 (fifteen years ago)
― solid yet bouncy (herb albert), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 16:12 (1 hour ago) Bookmark
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 16:14 (1 hour ago) Bookmark
loooooool
kelpolaris is an out-and-out troll btw, as any rudimentary post-search would confirm
― pretty girl, filking a clown (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:48 (fifteen years ago)
I think everyone assumed he was a troll/possible sock-puppet, but - at least speaking for myself - i'm a little burnt out on calling people out for trolling/SPing in the middle of a thread. (Clearly not tired enough, tho.)
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:51 (fifteen years ago)
who fucking cares
― don't you steal my Sunstein (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:51 (fifteen years ago)
xxp Huh? I just did a search on "kelpolaris" and found a bunch of harmless posts about MBV, Bjork, and Boards of Canada.
― HOOS zing-steen (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:51 (fifteen years ago)
at this point it's far more tempting to ban all of the "you are a troll/sockpuppet" blowhards who rarely if ever have anything constructive or useful to say anymore than it is to ban someone trolling for responses that may or may not spark an actual conversation
― don't you steal my Sunstein (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:53 (fifteen years ago)
point out is that rock in the '60s and '70s was more dance-oriented than now, not less
OTM and it got sclerotic and didn't evolve with the new dance beats very well
― Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:53 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, if the question elicits interesing and intriguing posts, I don't care who asked it.
xpost to Dan
calling every new and opinionated or forthright poster on being a troll is completely lame and annoying but kelpolaris rolls full troglodyte iirc
haha i typed that before dan's thunderfist...um, you may note that i am basically never the one crying troll? also that i did not ask for this thread to be eliminated? as i said upthread, it even got ME listening to something, which has since not left my head all day
― pretty girl, filking a clown (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:54 (fifteen years ago)
It's just exhausting having to always be on-guard lest a tricky ILXer fool me into taking their fake baiting nonsense seriously. Like, if this guy is a troll, is he giggling behind his computer that he tricked us all into seriously answering his question? Also, kjb otm about engaging on the premise of the discussion, because giving actual musical suggestions is prob a waste of time.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:55 (fifteen years ago)
― pretty girl, filking a clown (acoleuthic), Tuesday, April 13, 2010 12:48 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
what? not true. a dude in denver who likes mbv is a troll now?
lol xps
― goole, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:56 (fifteen years ago)
oh its louis managinge to talk about himself again, i get it
managing, heh
― goole, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:57 (fifteen years ago)
oh its louis margarine to talk about himself again, i get it
― bamcquern, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:57 (fifteen years ago)
it just seems to me that when you bump enough threads to talk about MBV in absolutist terms, there's gotta be self-awareness there, right? but this is boring and i'm probably wrong so proceed
fifteen megaton atomic zing there from the goolester
― pretty girl, filking a clown (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:58 (fifteen years ago)
its less that op is disgusting savage than that he shld b disgustingly savaged, by a pack of rabid wolves
― Lamp, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:58 (fifteen years ago)
better that than "manginaing" which is how I somehow managed to read that
― don't you steal my Sunstein (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:58 (fifteen years ago)
^^ fully expected this post
― goole, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:59 (fifteen years ago)
troll tricked ppl into image bombing imo. op is basically extremely naive of ilm biases and beliefs, which could either be because kelpo is a brave new poster who didn't lurk much (i said some equally embarassing shit in my first hundred or so posts that luckily went largely unnoticed) or a troll getting everyone riled up by pushing on our collective buttons just to watch us squirm in outrage.
― tmi finney (samosa gibreel), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:01 (fifteen years ago)
I am nothing if not predictable, sadly
― don't you steal my Sunstein (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:01 (fifteen years ago)
hmm actually as it turns out, kelpolaris DOES have a massive surfeit of MBV but also talks about other things pretty rationally - on threads i haven't seen
looks like i fucked that one up a bit
― pretty girl, filking a clown (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:03 (fifteen years ago)
sorry everyone
― pretty girl, filking a clown (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:05 (fifteen years ago)
^posts the effortlessly blah blahxp
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:06 (fifteen years ago)
okay ouch
― don't you steal my Sunstein (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:06 (fifteen years ago)
regretting and deleting, sry Granny I screwed up yr xpost
― millions now zinging will never lol (WmC), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:07 (fifteen years ago)
ok delete mine too plz
― pretty girl, filking a clown (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:07 (fifteen years ago)
nah I deserved it
― millions now zinging will never lol (WmC), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:08 (fifteen years ago)
TOO LATE
― don't you steal my Sunstein (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:08 (fifteen years ago)
rogue moderators all up in this bitch
DANG IT
― millions now zinging will never lol (WmC), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:09 (fifteen years ago)
the op seems guilty of naivete and a few terrible lines but it says more about itchy trigger fingers and distrust of declamatory opinionated people that they're getting suspected as a troll when this is the sort of thing 19yr old indie kids probably post thousands of times a day in other places
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:09 (fifteen years ago)
what happened, i am confused
― goole, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:10 (fifteen years ago)
I kicked LJ in the nuts, he kicked me in the nuts, it's all deleted, back to normal
― millions now zinging will never lol (WmC), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:11 (fifteen years ago)
i'm feeling particularly terrible about this accusation of mine because kelpolaris is not 1/4 as embarrassing as...yeah
― pretty girl, filking a clown (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:12 (fifteen years ago)
sorry abt yr deleted nuts, btw
― don't you steal my Sunstein (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:12 (fifteen years ago)
i just thought that dude only posted to talk about MBV and bait ILM but this is not true
it's ok about my deleted nuts - have always dreamt of being manginaed
― pretty girl, filking a clown (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:13 (fifteen years ago)
But as far as music goes, she has deemed that corporations have taken over music and that there is no longer any sense of originality in music, that it all aspires to thinks that can make us dance but do nothing more
ignoring all the trolling-claims for a moment, this series of (largely unrelated) assumptions are ridiculous and not likely to be changed by exposure to any particular kind of music. When did corporations NOT own a stake in music? Recorded music has always involved, from its very inception, business structures to control and guide its production and distribution. Secondly, what is so great about originality and what does it mean to be "original" anyway. Third what's wrong with dancing - dancing is like one of the main functions of music and it always has been and always will be, denigrating it's role is highly suspect.
I assume other people have already noted all this... but yeah the blind spots on display (both the professor's and the OPs) are kind of alarming and not solve-able by 5-minute mix CD
― I won't vote for you unless you acknowledge my magic pony (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:18 (fifteen years ago)
kelpolaris: is your professor Camille Paglia???
fuck, um, I dunno, I guess I would play her some Dirty Projectors, and if she didn't like that, then I'd play her some Gang Gang Dance and if she didn't like that, then I would kick her in the junk and run.
― gonna have to change jobs & change gods (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:19 (fifteen years ago)
Oh my god. I miss the Camille Paglia thread. Can we plz revive?
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:21 (fifteen years ago)
there's a camille paglia thread?!
true fact: when I was in high school I had a Guitar World with a page-long editorial in the back by Ms. Paglia talking about how Zeppelin's songs rivalled the truly great works of the classical era and how all the grunge bands I liked at the time were derivative pap.
― gonna have to change jobs & change gods (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:23 (fifteen years ago)
I have never seen so much nutkicking in a humanites course before.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:24 (fifteen years ago)
The Camille Paglia thread is called Sexual Healing and it's full of amazing lulz. Classic thread imo.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:27 (fifteen years ago)
full of trolls iirc
kinda fitting, I suppose
― I won't vote for you unless you acknowledge my magic pony (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:27 (fifteen years ago)
Sexual Personae I mean OF CourSE!
sexual personae
'mbv is better than any rap music''ghostface is better than any rock music'
(etc)
are such declamations always fatuous? assuming they're deeply felt and not accompanied by inane rationalization.....
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:38 (fifteen years ago)
I dunno, if you've ever tried to rationalize something deeply felt, they end up sounding pretty inane.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:41 (fifteen years ago)
naturally
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:43 (fifteen years ago)
different types of music are meant to be listened to in different ways & analyzed in different ways & saying one kind of music is "better" than another is inherently subjective
― róisin bran (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)
such objectivity is objectively subjective.
― ogmor, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)
that Camille Paglia thread got really annoying about halfway through
― gonna have to change jobs & change gods (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:18 (fifteen years ago)
Best modern music to convince a 50-yr old humanities professor 20-yr old ILX message boarder that music does not currently suck
Same difference, huh?
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:21 (fifteen years ago)
Did we scare off the polar dude?
LJ- What did you think of Edan?
― tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)
sexual personae exp is my most embarrassing ilx exp ever imo
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)
learned from that moment
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:25 (fifteen years ago)
u were so earnest its p funny
― Lamp, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:25 (fifteen years ago)
n.e.way if were tryna b srs & constructive now id probably just get a projector than loop & play a dealwithitdog.gif while i blasted count & sinden's "beeper" and danced around the class like a fukken maniac
― Lamp, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:27 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah admittedly I could've gone without arguing with a few, but I did make it clear that she wasn't all too big a fan of rap.... so in the sak of supporting my argument towards her, why bother trying to convince me?
I presented today, I played some Animal Collective which she was ecstatic over, Soon from MBV (I'm predictable, I know) and actually Bark Psychosis's Codename: Dustsucker I accidentally put upon the mix tape and she thought it was pretty interesting as well, but wasn't all too impressed by it. Bjork she adored, but I suspect she was aware of her already. I found compromise with rap by playing some trip-hop, Portishead mainly. Aphex Twin she called "wildly stimulating". Merzbow at the end for fun, the class flipped shit. Overall she liked it.
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)
Glad it went well!
― don't you steal my Sunstein (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:36 (fifteen years ago)
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― tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)
And ppl were arguing with you because you're missing some fantastic music that many here think is much, much better than Animal Collective.
― don't you steal my Sunstein (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)
:D Gucci Mane be turning in his grave (shaped jail cell.)
Just reread that Paglia thread. Man, that was good times.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:39 (fifteen years ago)
I played some Animal Collective which she was ecstatic over
catch a heart attack cuz
― Lamp, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:41 (fifteen years ago)
I suspect the culprit is either anagram or xhuxk
Not me either, and your suspicion worries me cos I always try to be rational on this board (check my posting history). If I come across as anything else then I'm at a loss quite frankly.
― anagram, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)
I really wouldn't worry too much if I were you.
― don't you steal my Sunstein (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)
its always the rational ones that end up going off the edge of trolldom
― tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)
Ghostface would be my exhibit a) "defense" for hip-hop, just in terms of emotional and stylistic range, lyrical complexity, and just being in general totally amazing and unpredictable
― I won't vote for you unless you acknowledge my magic pony (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)
you should seriously ask your professor why she hates black people. what's up with exclusively white people focus.
― I won't vote for you unless you acknowledge my magic pony (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:53 (fifteen years ago)
also does yr professor know AC are huge, huge rap fans (they wanted MMP to be engineered like a rap record for chrissakes)
what's up with exclusively white people focus.
Merzbow is Japanese.
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)
The United States Census Bureau considers a baby boomer to be someone born during the demographic birth boom between 1946 and 1964. William Strauss and Neil Howe label American Baby Boomers 1943 to 1960. Others say 1947 to 1966, the years that more than 400,000 babies were born.
http://www.fastnbulbous.com/bucket16.jpg
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 20:01 (fifteen years ago)
they call this tokenism
― I won't vote for you unless you acknowledge my magic pony (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)
Hey, you asked.
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)
and throwing in a random act made up of black people wouldn't be tokenism?
― don't you steal my Sunstein (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)
token by definition is singular, so if there were a range of ethnicities represented (say, Merzbow plus MIA plus Ghostface plus Seu Jorge plus whoever etc) it might be a little more representative of what's going on in the world with music right now. is all I'm sayin
― I won't vote for you unless you acknowledge my magic pony (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)
but yeah we've been over this many times on ILM and blanket dismissals of rap usually = racism on some level
Why would you want to convince this old crustmudgeon that "modern music" doesn't suck?
― Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)
presumably so that old crustmudgeon will shut up about how modern music sucks, seeing as how this dude probably has to sit through classes where this ridiculous POV is expounded upon at length
― I won't vote for you unless you acknowledge my magic pony (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)
it seems to me the student/teacher relationship between kelpolaris and Ms. Paglia is a lot more congenial than that...better than a shiny new apple perhaps?
― gonna have to change jobs & change gods (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)
sam, the edan was fucking awesome obv
― pretty girl, filking a clown (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:59 (fifteen years ago)
which edan...? Beauty and the Beat is great imho
― I won't vote for you unless you acknowledge my magic pony (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:00 (fifteen years ago)
Beauty And The Beat, aye
(still feeling shitty btw, i feel like i've been a terrible hypocrite here - completely traduced one of my firmest ilx principles)
― pretty girl, filking a clown (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:01 (fifteen years ago)
kelpolaris, by way of apology, here is a gift of sound that I myself was given a few days ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P__LuA0vPLU
― pretty girl, filking a clown (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:02 (fifteen years ago)
Shouldn't you be counting votes right now?
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:03 (fifteen years ago)
fercrissakes son, no time for sentiment with a war on, friendly fire happens and it was either him or you
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:03 (fifteen years ago)
xp lol
― gonna have to change jobs & change gods (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:04 (fifteen years ago)
dude's gotta chill after his tuesday night football
― pretty girl, filking a clown (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:06 (fifteen years ago)
watching charlton defend desperately for 45 minutes against a toothless band of pretenders from northern essex has done nothing for my pomp
― pretty girl, filking a clown (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:10 (fifteen years ago)
glad you liked it. edan is immense, i wish he did more. his earlier stuff is just someone with ridiculous talent slumming it in joeks and going nanananana im way better than you. (doing it a disservice saying this now i relisten, dude is about as dope as any mc in the past 10 years)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54FW170yZ6ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87fHTt2bAq0&feature=related
also his fast raps/funky drummer mixtapes are grebt but I guess that depends on how much anyone is interesting in obscure old school rap and I guess you wouldn't care so much. His latest album has been kinda hard to get hold of so I can't really make an opinion but its edan, so its obv. gonna be terrific.
― tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:11 (fifteen years ago)
sir richard bishop
― fischer-price my first chukkas (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:12 (fifteen years ago)
That's just a picture of his face.
― bamcquern, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:13 (fifteen years ago)
Favourite Edan track is possibly Making Planets but that is because the Hendrix Hey Joe is one of the greatest pieces of music ever performed
― pretty girl, filking a clown (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:34 (fifteen years ago)
Since this is the Edan youtube thread and everything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKsmej9USNY
― trained to identify threads and then kill or destroy them (kingkongvsgodzilla), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:54 (fifteen years ago)
^^^^^yes
― elephant rob, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 23:24 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMc5u9ZWSFAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7i9inHZIHw&feature=PlayList&p=B84301954173CF2B&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=29
― tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 00:05 (fifteen years ago)
i'm taking full credit for turning on lj to that album fyi
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 05:40 (fifteen years ago)
I don't really like rap, or country, or punk, or metal. I am fine with this. I do not think it is because I am a racist.
― No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 05:57 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, your racism could have nothing to do with it
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 06:02 (fifteen years ago)
This is one of those threads where the original poster needs to be told to go fuck themselves and then we all joke amongst ourselves.
― filthy dylan, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 06:09 (fifteen years ago)
Donk
― X-101, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 06:20 (fifteen years ago)