Looking back, what's the biggest bullshit, musically speaking, that you fell for in the 90s

only ilxors who were actively listening to music in the 90s can post itt, all of you pokemon card-carrying 90s babies can post about the vines in the other thread iirc

anyway can i just

http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/dc9/311logo.jpg

god where to begin. i was young in the 90s.

I cant wait to see all the britpop mentioned on this thread

nu-metal. first gig i went to see was korn supported by helmet and limp bizkit. think it was the day of the 1997 general election. lol 90s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEKbFMvkLIc&feature=channel

reel talk

oh man i want to participate but this will be so so painful to recall

WHATS UP COLLEGE YEARS

Ska-punk. Sublime. The Specials reunion album. Any ska that was not made by Jamaicans.

hey jim a friend of mine, who i think was at the same school as you, was at that gig. I loaned him my Helmet cds and he ended up enjoying them more than the other two.

None of my choices really count because there is still one album by them that I will defend forever (in the case of Cranes, possibly two, had I ever gotten around to getting Wings of Joy).

But yeah, Cranes and Sky Cries Mary. In both cases, I was captivated by live performances, bought albums that I loved, then bought another album that was literally among the worst music ever recorded on Earth.

xxp: I bought a 311-album, but it didn't sound as good as when I heard it stoned in that t-shirt store in Myrtle Beach.

The incentive to 'fake it till you make it' was much greater iirc. It was like 'ok I just spent this month's entertainment budget on this, there is NO WAY IT CAN SUCK'.

My answer from about '95-'99 is 'i had a subscription to The Wire' >:(

part of me wants to say Beck but dude didn't actually become unbearably awful until Modern Guilt

i think maybe we should swing this thread towards "critical faves" so it's not just "I had bad taste when I was 15, the thread"

that being said, i remember falling for the Spin Doctors because Rolling Stone and MTV had convinced me they were like cutting-edge, next level alternative rock.

Also, i haven't broken out my Soul Coughing albums in like 10 years and I have a good feeling they may be bullshit.

it is somewhat fortuitous though that this topic was posted two weeks after I ripped into iTunes about 30 different trip-hop/drum n bass comps that I listened to twice and then threw into a gigantic box for 13 years

I still love most of the music I listened to in the 90's. Flying Nun and Xpressway records, Ajax, those shrimper records tapes, Krautrock, but there was Liz Phair's first album.

only beck i liked was mellow gold. Thankfully i never bought into the whole JSBX shit as i realised they were shit. But I'd expext to see them mentioned on this thread.

can I just say with full honesty that when I was a li'l kid back in the 90's Kula Shaker and Ocean Colour Scene were great favourites of mine

Kula Shaker!!!!

Also, i haven't broken out my Soul Coughing albums in like 10 years and I have a good feeling they may be bullshit.

Those hold up really, really well, especially El Oso

didnt you like the bluetones too?
xp

Also Dodgy, but I still think Free Peace Sweet isn't nearly as bad as everyone thinks, Good Enough apart

I only saw their cd in a store once and laugh, but I did like Cornershop's first album which might compare?

def guilty of the ska-punk mistake, lots of really 4th tier industrial garbage, some TERRIBLE endpoint rave tracks, oh ugh the list just goes on and on and on

xpost hahaha i was just going to mention the diminishing returns of JSBX! first heard the remix disc (which i still really dig) and went out and bought all the stuff i could find, only to slowly realize months later that i kind of hated it all.

oh man wait was combustible edison a 90's thing? if so def that

What would be 4th tier Industrial?

I saw Cast live supporting someone then again at t in the park, they were really good live, bought the album when it came out and it was fucking horrible. I think I knew then Britpop wasnt really for me apart from blur,oasis,pulp,suede.

And I didnt buy the 2nd Black Grape album thankfully but i will always rep for the 1st album.

hey John, remember this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_G16ge4FYY

although lol I still actually really, really dig that track

did someone cut Henrik's tongue off?

gonna stay away from post-grunge and "alternative rock" proper cause we'd just be here too long, but owning a korn record, a squirrel nut zippers record, a pitchshifter record--def low points

oh yeah now its coming back to me, all that neo-lounge stuff is maybe more embarrassing than the stuff i already listed, fucking leopard print smoking jackets arrhghghh

How many fellow euros bought this and aren't embarrassed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_e_64qoK3s

atari teenage riot doesn't hold up particularly well

YES IT DOES

oh man

who was the group who did that song about stopping off in a phone booth or whatever with the ridiculously long song title? their album was TERRIBLE

primitive radio gods

YES

These threads all suck.

hahah it's amazing to me that there was an entire cd that accompanied that song

which reminds me:
cottonmouth texas
mc 900 foot jesus

all other sorta spoken word "electronica" of the '90s, even if it did give us scroobius pip in the long run

sorry, dan le sac vs scroobius pip

CONSOLIDATED is another one where the stuff I have, I still really like and support, but WOW did they become terrible

4th tier industrial is a random term that popped into my head to refer to all the digital hardcore garbage i chomped down without noticing it was pretty much stupid and no good. bunch of xposts

still love the first mc 900 foot jesus record

all that funk stuff--there was funk everywhere

i think i saw consolidated live like 7 times. WHY?

also: Jesus Jones.

I love the 1st and 2nd MC 900 Ft Jesus albums.

Atari Teenage Riot and Christoph de Babylon are fucking great but pretty much everyone else on DHR is hot garbage.

fair amount of acid jazz nonsense like Young Disciples, this series
http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/61b26d57160ca8bf4497fcaaf8b534d6/66099.jpg

that's about it tho really. there's indie/grunge stuff I don't really listen to anymore (fugazi, Nirvana, etc.) but I don't think any of it was "bullshit" per se, I've just kinda grown out of needing that particular angsty/angry stuff around.

Toad. The Wet. Sprocket.

going to start a band called Hot Garbage someday

I dont regret any grunge era purchases as somehow, by luck more than anything rather than good taste, i didn't buy anything that was particularly bad. Maybe it was because I could only buy 1 or 2 cds a month so I made sure I wasn't wasting any money, but any risky type purchases based on reviews I think I got lucky with. late 90s I started to distrust the music press here when it went full-on dadrock or nu-metal so thankfully didn't buy any shit apart from Head Music by Suede, but to be fair I loved their previous albums.

hahaha wow I still like that Primitive Radio Gods song

Thankfully i never bought into the whole JSBX shit as i realised they were shit.

awww Herman. recently dug out all my JSBX stuff and I still love it, for the most part. not as good as the Cramps, but fun in a similar way.

ok seriously DISPOSABLE HEROES OF HIPHOPRISY

everclear

(not sure if this falls into "I had bad taste when I was 15, the thread" territory, but i didn't really know what comprised the critical cannon when i was 15 anyway, so i can't be sure whether they meet this new criteria of having been critically well-regarded at the time)

oh shit, I am about to win this thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_9MI2ymN6s

you can go ahead and protest but first you have to listen to television: the drug of the nation xxpost

oh yeah I had a Consolidated cd, did sell it later when I needed money to buy new stuff, but Its not like I hated it, i just didn't think I'd need to play it again.

It was this one
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drd700/d711/d71145u5rf7.jpg

i didn't fall for any bullshit in the 90s even though i was an actual teenager - even then i saw through britpop for the utter shite it was and can pretty much defend all the trip-hop and female singer-songwriters i listened to instead. and the r&b obv.

when people asked me at school whether i preferred blur or oasis i used to reply, with a tinge of contempt, "neither. i like björk."

I was seriously all about Babylon Zoo right up until a week after I bought their album and realized on listen #30 that I was lying to myself in the worst possible way.

although no lie, I still appreciate "Spaceman"

oh hahaha pfunk that consolidated cd in particular is terrible garbage

but I am not solely race, nor environment, nor destiny
I am the human scientific process
over and over and over again
the dirt that I shovel to uncover the truth
often buries something else growing
acceptance of my own
weakness and my own intolerance
is seldom
but that is in fact my identity
uncluttered by the maskings of consumer addiction
ethno-centricity
in the light of miscegenation
this fable of elements
which classify order species, subspecies
genus phyla
animal vegetable illegal chemical
socialist democrat republican
yuppy-buppy-guppy
proud racist
black white African American Irish and German
sometimes I feel like a socio-genetic experiment
a petri-dish community's token of infection

I liked the spaceman song too but I wasnt daft enough to by the album! Same goes for Stiltskin, remember them?

No memory of Stiltskin!

this one is almost exclusively to piss off John

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAc0ASspuXU

John, I havent heard it in over a dozen years at least. But I did enjoy it enough at the time. I'd probably hate it more if I had heard it since I suppose.

I really like that reel big fish song, I hated it when I was a kid tho

the make-up
ninjatune

not opening that youtube, assuming it is speed racer or sesames treet

Stiltskin (it was also from a Levi's advert,which got a lot of bands hits)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuTVKO0RScI
Singer joined Genesis lolol

ah i kinda still dig the make-up, at least the singles comp

yeah i still like the make up and NOU a lot

holy hell, Stiltskin is terrible

however, I likely would have loved this had I heard it when it came out

Make-Up were GREAT live. I bought tons of their 45 singles, good stuff.

Svenonius is the only guy I've ever seen successfully do the walking-on-the-upstretched-hands-of-the-crowd thing, I will always remember that as a really great show.

I think the day I realized I'd spent hundreds of dollars on Ninja Tune releases when I could have stopped with Cold Krush Kuts and MAYBE the Herbaliser albums is still one of the sadder days of my adult existence.

oh hahahahahahahaha i just went back and opened the youtube out of curiosity and just have to say that knowing a dude for 25 years or so opens up mental lines of communication that are kind of terrifying

^_^

I was seriously all about Babylon Zoo right up until a week after I bought their album and realized on listen #30 that I was lying to myself in the worst possible way.

― don't you steal my Sunstein (HI DERE), Thursday, 15 April 2010 18:38 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Jas Man was marked as a Grade A tool pretty much from the get go over here, so most UK'ers were saved the embarrassment. I did know someone who bought the single and was bitterly disappointed to find out that it wasn't sped up all the way through.

there was a (vastly superior) mix that was, though!

omg i have a basement full of ninja tune i do not want to think about how well that investment turned out, but will still rep for some of the weirder stuff (up, bustle and out and the clifford gilberto rhythm combination or whatever.)

lol those were the two I was considering also giving a pass to but I hadn't actually played them recently due to fear that I would realize they were terrible

i used to listen to nothing but classical music at the beginning of the 90s. i used to make mix tapes of it.

i think i also used to like mr scruff but i also am pretty sure that i was wrong

oh wait actually Cabbageboy/Si Begg is still pretty hot, although I guess strictly speaking that was more NTone than Ninja Tune

Oh and i bought this for 20p in my local record shop(that is long long gone) I knew ska-punk wasnt for me so i only wasted 20p on the whole movement.
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dre400/e401/e401193h3u3.jpg

I laugh at anyone who bought Less Than Jake albums.

ha ninjatune! I don't think I ever heard any music from that label, but I remember really liking the way they poached old gundam model instructions, so more graphical than musical bullshit.

Modest Mouse, Guano Apes, Coolio, Our Lady Peace, Sarah Mclachlan, ditto on ninjatune.... also every trip hop band that didnt came out of bristol, every grunge band that didnt came out of Seattle, every grunge band that did come out of Seattle... grunge in general, yes...

There's so much I'm ashamed of if I look back at any mixtape I had back then. Which ilxor said that everything you listen to before you turn twenty tends to be utter shit?

haha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmOmAuhAQbE

I barely remember what I was listening to 15-20 years ago. Probably a lot of what I'm listening to now - classic rock, old-school metal, jazz... I didn't buy that much Ninja Tune stuff (though I still own Cold Krush Kuts) or electronic music of any sort. At one point or another I also owned albums by Consolidated, MC 900 Ft Jesus, Front Line Assembly, Pigface (ugh - saw them live, possibly more than once) and yeah, I got fooled by the Jon Spencer Blues Explosion because I'd liked Pussy Galore a lot and figured I'd give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but I bailed after Extra Width.

the Ninja Tune visual aesthetic from that era is still pretty amazing tbh; I've gotten more positive comments on my NT t-shirt than any other one I own

xp to HN: try living in Boston when the Mighty Mighty Bosstones blew up, it was pretty unbearable

almost as unbearable as the Dropkick Murphys mania

i should do a "SKAMAGEDDON" compilation poll of shame maybe

I saw Front Line Assembly in 96 i think it was. Absolutely no regrets. Still pick out their albums for a listen now and again.

^^^ yeah, John and I saw FLA in... 92? The tour for Caustic Grip. Fucking amazing show, the venue had a tilted dancefloor which added to the overall trippiness of the experience

oh god, browsing through youtube and i remember a mate buying an album by this mob
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41KJCoydlEU

Im gonna fire a text off to him now to laugh at him 15 years on.
Same friend bought a Clash compilation cd because hey loved Should i Stay Or Should I Go? from the jeans advert and he hated it because it didn't all sound like that song.

Would loved to have seen the Caustic Grip tour, when they played a track or 2 off that album in 96 the place went nuts. Cubanate supported them. Terrorizer readers from the 90s still hate them hahaha

has to be earlier than 92 because we are wearing matching front line assembly shirts in our yearbook picture for knowledge bowl

pics!

and that is the most humiliating sentence i have ever written on the internet

supersuckers post-"smoke of hell"
L7
some generic garage garbage on estrus records & sympathy
man's ruin records
the makers
"exotica" and "lounge" crap

has to be earlier than 92 because we are wearing matching front line assembly shirts in our yearbook picture for knowledge bowl

holy fukkin lol

No mention of Biohazard yet in this thread baffles me. God, forget what I said earlier, wtf was I thinking!

THE HAFLER TRIO

Herbaliser

PGR albums after Flickering Of Sowing Time

oh well i was only 18 or 19 and only just getting into music

Definitely the ill-advised flirtation with industrial/thrash/etc metal circa '93. Biohazard, Machine Head, Sepultura, Thrill Kill Kult, Stabbing Westward, and too many Front Line Assembly and Bigod 20 albums. Thank god I stopped dating goth girls.

xps!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ggdsuperstar.png

Fuck you very much, Paul Westerberg, for helping Johnny Rzecsnikchjkd write a breakout single and become the monster he is today.

Saw them in 1994 at a festival for 107.9 WENZ in Cleveland with 10,000 Maniacs and . . . 311!

has to be earlier than 92 because we are wearing matching front line assembly shirts in our yearbook picture for knowledge bowl

ALL TIME WINNER

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Gwzj9SMe750/SZJpWjvgw4I/AAAAAAAAA3E/KVzVnh9HLBY/s400/GGDsuperstarcarwash.jpg

has to be earlier than 92 because we are wearing matching front line assembly shirts in our yearbook picture for knowledge bowl

Had to be '91 then, because I was expressly forbidden from going to concerts before I turned 18 and I didn't have the skillz to organize a successful "sleepover" that was actually a jaunt to a show.

also I hate you

thread needs pics

i demand pics!

I bought a really terrible Star Wars-themed ska record because it was about Star Wars (when I didn't even like Star Wars!)

also lol davidm. You read Raw and Kerrang too? or watched Raw Power/Noisy Mothers?

Oh yeah, and Rollins Band. And Henry Rollins in general, especially his books.

gwar

dread zeppelin

Hmm I had 2 rollins albums but I dont regret buying them, even If I'll never play them again.

Yeah, I read Raw and Kerrang for a while, also Melody Maker, which was also big on this stuff pre-Britpop.

thats the 3 i always bought too

this one time i bought a soul asylum album.

runaway grits never coming back

runaway grits on a one way track, yeah

hahahahahhaha

i bought the candlebox cd back in 1994.

End of Silence is fine, but I think I bought everything with that man's name on it. Sold it all now, thank god.

hahaha

I had a 20 minute argument with my brother about Soul Asylum where his whole thesis was "you can't understand why anyone would like them unless you see them live", to which my rebuttal was "how the hell are they going to get anyone into their amazing live shows if their albums sound like lifeless dick"

Relive the full horror of the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giPPeJEBUqE

I still like a couple of earlier soul asylum albums but that one was abysmal

but i never bought it

the beginning of that candlebox song is pretty good and then the guy starts singing and wwell.. but freakin sweet guitar man.. so sweeeeeet

this entire thread, actually --> 'indie' modern rock radio hits of 1994

my excuse -- i worked a lot of overtime for my job/internship that year and the local "alternative" radio station was one of the few radio stations that we could pick up w/t lots of static that was tolerable.

OK has to be said, Made To Be Broken is an incredible record and it is by Soul Asylum. But otherwise, LOL them.

How about Caspar Brotzmann Massaker?

I remember seeing Soul Asylum's name around since they were a MN band but I never knowingly heard them until that song, where I basically was like "what happened, I am confused"

winona ryder happened

(she's the runaway train in the runaway train metaphor)

lol @ people coming out of the woodwork to defend soul asylum. dave pirner's hair alone, etc. etc.

Yeah they were really exciting when they first came out, Mould was producing them, etc

Soul Asylum wasn't bad during the late 80s -- though they were always third-rate compared to Husker Du and the Replacements, and i was NEVER overly enthused about them even when they were an OK indie/alt band.

PRONG
late-era Butthole Surfers
Mother Love Bone
Rein Sanction anyone?
Above The Law
any/all of Steve Albini's bands (except that Pegboy EP where he played bass)

also fuck you guys, I still like Goo Goo Dolls, and lounge/exotica.

Poo Poo Dolls

wait wait

was anyone here into G Love and Special Sauce?

yeah I'm d/l'ing Les Baxter albums as I type this lol

xp

i'm listening to that smoking popes album right now. i still like it...

actually, i was wrong wr2 the linked thread -- i WISH that the alt station that i listened to (endured?) in 1994 was that cool.

there actually WERE a few decent indie/alt stations in the area (WDRE and 103.9 in Philly) but they were impossible to pick up clearly on my job site.

only decent thing that ever came out of Soul Asylum was them playing backup on Chris Mars' first album (a 90s relic that I once got rid of, subequently regretted, and have been unable to locate since btw)

i still kinda like "snap your fingers snap your neck" -- though that might just be b/c it was on "beavis and butthead."

i miss using buzzworthy as an adjective....

lol seeing Spring Heeled Jack on that Skarmageddon poll reminded me of Spring Heel Jack (the dnb act)

was anyone here into G Love and Special Sauce?

NO

Spring Heel Jack (the dnb act)

they morphed into a jazz act (sorta), right?!?

whoa and actually knowing that there are two spring heel jacks clears up a minor point of confusion for me

I know it's utter bullshit, but I kinda dig Lenny Kravitz's "Let Love Rule" album.

Things I liked in the '90s that I still like: the Rollins Band, Prong, Ministry, Goo Goo Dolls' Hold Me Up, Caspar Brötzmann Massaker (saw them open for Helmet and Girls Against Boys), Fudge Tunnel, Pantera...

a: i attended EDGE fest at least three times, soooo

one time i almost bought sponge's 2nd album

i bought that!!!

I'm really digging tht skin up track

was anyone here into G Love and Special Sauce?

NO

No!!!!!!!!

i missed the whole techno thing largely b/c i was a poor college student back then & i couldn't afford the $20/$30 import prices that those cds went for back in the day -- plus i didn't have that many friends into it, so i couldn't tape it for the cost of a cassette.

ewwwwwww, i forgot that i kinda liked some lenny kravitz songs like 20 years ago. ew ew ew.

lol @ this album cover
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:wcfyxqealdte

hehehehe

Ugh Pantera

RIP Dimebag

then there were my brit cousins who asked me back in the mid-90s -- and in all seriousness -- why the fun lovin' criminals weren't much bigger in the USA than they actually were. as if we were repeating the same mistake that we made wr2 Jimi Hendrix or something.

http://www.breathecast.com/files/album/album_200605060514000_0.jpg

http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/n/newsboys/album-take-me-to-your-leader.jpg

http://img.noiset.com/images/album/audio-adrenaline-bloom-1-cover-art-55943.jpeg

xxxxpost Les Baxter is legitimately interesting and awesome, superior to Martin Denny imo.

re: dc talk/audio adrenaline, was this something you could musically fall for without ideologically falling for first?

i missed the whole techno thing largely b/c i was a poor college student back then & i couldn't afford the $20/$30 import prices that those cds went for back in the day -- plus i didn't have that many friends into it, so i couldn't tape it for the cost of a cassette.

lol I was also a poor* college student who did nothing but spend any spare money that crossed his path on import techno CDs; also I got a credit card

* - by this, I mean that while I was college, I had to get jobs to pay for any and all entertainment I wanted to spend money on; my parents were very clear about only paying tuition, room/board, travel expenses to/from home, and books, so compared to practically everyone around me I was a pauper

i had -- and liked -- this one, too:

http://doubledamagemedia.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/album-marcy-playground3.jpg

and back in the day, i had NO IDEA that anselmo from Pantera was the bigoted dickweed that he turned out to be. so i'm giving myself a pass for liking Pantera.

then there were my brit cousins who asked me back in the mid-90s -- and in all seriousness -- why the fun lovin' criminals weren't much bigger in the USA than they actually were. as if we were repeating the same mistake that we made wr2 Jimi Hendrix or something.

I remember going to Germany in 98 and learning that they still listened to the Fun Lovin' Criminals. They might as well have said they listened to God Street Wine or the Samples for all the o_O I gave them.

the Samples!

lol I was going to mention Marcy Playground but I never actually bought their album

also I still adore "Not An Addict" by K's Choice

i didn't start liking pantera until i realized that dude was a white power douche

doesn't pantera get cut a lot of slack on the back of dimebag RIP.

He gave the guy from anthrax a guitar covered with confederate flags and stars of david.

lol I was also a poor* college student who did nothing but spend any spare money that crossed his path on import techno CDs; also I got a credit card

* - by this, I mean that while I was college, I had to get jobs to pay for any and all entertainment I wanted to spend money on; my parents were very clear about only paying tuition, room/board, travel expenses to/from home, and books, so compared to practically everyone around me I was a pauper

well, i figured back then that i knew what i was getting when i charged my credit card to the max w/ stuff like Slowdive, Wu-Tang, Spiritualized, or whatever -- while i had at best a passing familiarity w/ techno which i thought was OK but i had no idea whether such-and-such British/German/French techno DJ was actually WORTH dropping $20-$30 for.

was anyone here into G Love and Special Sauce?

lol a coworker of mine wanted to go to a recent G Love and Special Sauce here in SF... but it was SOLD OUT

I was confused

lol @ pantera's early shit when they were a hair metal band.

also I still adore "Not An Addict" by K's Choice

YES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa5SiU2U5_k

was anyone here into G Love and Special Sauce?

*raises hand shamefully*

lol @ pantera's early shit when they were a hair metal band.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/aa/PanteraMetalMagic.jpg

the origin of the furries ... o_O

the beginning of not an addict used to make me uncomfortable when it would come on the radio while i was in the car with my mom. that and also the beginning of "more human than human". yikes, puberty!!

the origin of the furries ... o_O

man that would look good airbrushed onto the hood of a T-bird

Can I just say 'Too Pure Records' in general?

re: dc talk/audio adrenaline, was this something you could musically fall for without ideologically falling for first?

Nope! Hi dere conservative xtian family upbringing, including rules about "appropriate" musics!

I fell for 311 and kinda knew it was bullshit at the time but I had fun live, what can I say.

Ditto for H.O.A.R.D. shit like Phish and Blues Traveler and the Spin Doctors (though "Two Princes" owns).

By the end of the decade I got into alt.country in a big way, and while I still love Uncle Tupelo, all the second-tier and under bands were basically bullshit. I'm talking Waco Brothers (I guess the Mekons are viewed as classic? I bought Original Sin for the Gram Parsons cover which was ok but the rest, I just didn't get), Richard Buckner, Robbie Fulks (though the song "Let's Kill Saturday Night" was worth it), Bloodshot shit of all kinds (though I respect them for doing their own thing).

I dunno, a lot of this was just a teen trying to find his own taste. So I wasted some time and money on Eugenius records, the Farm, Widespread Panic (I even saw Allgood a few times)...it's all good.

200 posts in and no mention his Hootie and his Blowfish (or is that the love that dare not speak its name?)

oh btw when i call neo-lounge bullshit upthread i am not talking about les baxter/denny/esquivel etc, im talking about the crapola smirky revivalists like pink martini and so on.

i bought ICP's the great milenko after hearing them interviewed on Howard Stern one morning during a commute to my job back in 1998 -- one of the few records i actually RETURNED (and i actually KEPT disappointing shit like "rattle and hum," "reverberation" and "golden arms redemption").

haha see the mistake you made there was not buying Riddle Box

it was a damn funny interview, though!

i still like all the music I ever liked which is why I hardly ever get rid of anything. I could have said like random impulse-buy rap tapes a while ago but even those are sounding awesome again (Terminator X - Valley of the Jeep Beats this morn btw)

the Spawn soundtrack

Screw you guys, "Cartoon" by Soul Asylum is still a good tune and their chronic unhipness meant that I could buy the CD for 20p even in the days before CDs were all worth 20p, so there

sneaking suspicion I may also still like things from my own Cubanate/Sheep on Drugs/Stabbing Westward/Filter phase. but not the album I bought by Hyperhead aka That Fucking Tit Out Of Gaye Bykers On Acid Who Might Later Have Been In Apollo 440, though, as even at the time it was painfully obviously dogshit. ;_;

Can I just say 'Too Pure Records' in general? <- ???! (ok, I am a big fan of Mouse on Mars, Seefeel, early Stereolab, so these guys get a free pass forever imo)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3e/Judgment_Night.jpg

which spawned the spawn soundtrack (sorry for the bad pun). except that a lot of the songs on judgment night are actually pretty good, though.

someone's gonna rep for the crow OST at some point, i just know it.

the Spawn soundtrack holds up until you get to the Metallica song, IMO

xp: HI DERE

this is like crossover late-90s/early-00s but I'd say all the turntablism/X-Ecutioners/Invisible Scratch Picklz b.s. I wasn't superheavy into it but I saw X-Ecutioners at CMJ (they were actually pretty awesome) and would play their record on my college radio show sometimes. Also got some shitty samplers of related stuff at CMJ and tried to get into it but it was all so terrible.

and i'm not at all ashamed to rep for this one:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a7/SirMix-a-Lot-MackDaddy.jpg

though the fact that the first song i heard offa it was "one time ain't got no case" (instead of you-know-what) may account for why i was so fond of it in the first place.

ugh filter. I had a copy of the first stabbing westward album but the only track i recall was violent mood swings.
Wonder how Sheep On Drugs greatest hits will sound now.

judgment night sdtk still rules, eisbar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyr5WdrEvGI

sorry this song is still great

xp: Sheep On Drugs is surprisingly resilient!

ska-punk shame vs industrial shame

(ska-punk shame is clearly the worst)

lol I've got The Crow AND Judgment Night OST's!

The Crow is mostly shit but I do like the Nine Inch Nails track (which is probably heresy to some). And it was sort of my first introduction to Poison Idea via the Pantera cover.

i have a lot of turntablism stuff still around too, but man i have not listened to it in forever. X-ecutioners i think would still hold up, invisible scratch pickles are super fucking annoying (thank god i kept buying the shiggar fraggar show volumes used like an idiot despite realizing oh hey this is aggravating). could prob break out the return of the dj vol 1-3 and still enjoy a bunch of it.

Things currently causing me lols:
1. Stiltskin released a new album in 2006
2. I just remembered the existence of Mutha's Day Out

I still like most of the music I liked back then really. Or at least I realised I'd fallen for bullshit pretty quickly (Britpop post 1st wave mostly - remember buying the 1st Bluetones album and going "this is crap", Oasis circa D'You Know What I Mean etc)

you must have bought some bad punk

ew i admit to having owned this one. like the great milenko, it went straight to the cut-out bin after one listen:

http://991.com/newGallery/The-Seahorses-Do-It-Yourself-175308.jpg

no one regrets buying offspring,nofx or epitaph bands stuff yet? Surely no one can like that shit?

oh god yes, that seahorses album was dire, fuck you john squire

my friends were really into epitaph ish but i never went further than tolerating it

i listened to the first Counting Crows record a lot whenever it came out. 1993? That one got a lot of critical love at the time, didn't it?

I am still remembering the ILM thread where Matt DC introduced me to Seahorses via their terrible Glastonbury appearance, and the Scottish coworker I met not a week later who proclaimed that appearance as a life-defining experience

hahahaha I swear this is an xpost to the Seahorses talk

Punk in Drublic was dope, imo.

xxp

(xposts) Yeah, I probably do still like most of the stuff I bought in the 90s. Have some Britpop/post-Britpop CDs which I'm pretty sure are actually terrible but I probably still like (since I youtube the singles from them when I am drunk and enjoy the nostalgia - lol Silver Sun and Angelica).

Meanwhile, I listened to like 4 Trumans Water albums thinking I would vote for one on the best-of-90s poll, and man, I do not like them at all any more, apparently. Also dug out a Silverfish CD last night because someone mentioned them elsewhere and it sounded so bad I thought I'd put my amplifier on a weird setting, except I hadn't

I may also still like things from my own Cubanate/Sheep on Drugs

I still really like both these bands, especially SOD. Along with NIN, and the occasional Front 242 and Skinny Puppy, they are the only survivors of my loud angsty music phase.

my youngest sister (who was 12 in 1995) liked this record a lot way back when:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c0/SilverchairFrogstompAlbumcover.jpg

Oh man Whale - I had a kind of shameful crush on the girl in that video.

I still like Vulgar Display of Power. I always see a pickup around town with an "rip dimebag you were a god among men" sticker in the window, between a Human Rights Campaign "equality" sticker and one of the state of Wyoming's cowboy logo.

Personally, I got suckered by lots of second rate jam bands, turntablist crap, and ninja tune type things.

Rebecca I bet you still like Fluffy

xxxxxp: Big Bad Baby Pigsqueal!

I was blasting "Come Fly With Me" the other day, which wasn't even anywhere near my top 10 SOD songs, and really, really, really digging it.

the beginning of that candlebox song is pretty good and then the guy starts singing and wwell.. but freakin sweet guitar man.. so sweeeeeet

Ugh, no, I associate that guitar tone w/street musican dbags with Japanese-made Stratocasters with Lace Sensor pickups and Roland Jazz Chorus amps playing Moebius-strip fusion riffs at subway stations.

no stone temple pilots mention yet? Ugly Kid Joe? Kenickie?

loll Kenickie

i thought that at the time

stp not particularly bullshitty when compared against their peers

Hah yeah I did sell all my Silverfish CDs years ago.

xposts

yeah, Weiland himself is kind of a punchline but STP's actual music, at least as far as what got radioplay, was pretty much always good to fantastic

I liked STP but don't feel like it was b.s., except maybe their first album. "Purple" and "Songs from the Vatican Gift Shop" have some great songs on them.

the first concert I ever went to (at 15) was Soul Asylum opening for Keith Richards. does it make it better or worse that I didn't know who soul asylum were? my real shame is the amount of trip-hop I liked: Morcheeba, Sneaker Pimps, and, Shakey, I had that Whale album--it was produced by Tricky!

i actually kinda like STP -- enough to buy their best-of. i liked them a LOT more than i ever liked pearl jam.

I thought I might still like Fluffy but actually I was thinking of Brassy and can't remember anything about Fluffy at all. I probably do still like Kenickie.

Speaking of the JSBX family, why rag on JSBX when you could rag on Boss Hog, huh?

PS I know this is not the thread for "I had bad taste when I was 13" but it'll probably make pfunkboy laugh/cry to know I liked Little Angels, Wolfsbane and Gun at the time (it was before Gun's Cameo cover - is that better or worse?)

I have so many My Life Story CD singles... I'm really baffled why I was so into this band, around about 1997, because I find them completely unlistenable now. I cannot bear them. Yet I was on the Sex & Violins mailing list and everything.

A thread about the good and bad and the bloody awful 90s Alternative Rock Bands

xpost
LOLOL you need to post that on this thread

Becoming X has some fucking great songs on it (title track, "Tesko Suicide", "Spin Spin Sugar", "Post-Modern Sleaze", "6 Underground"...)

no-one's gonna admit to liking Jamiroquai, then?!? SOMEONE bought their records back in the day, you know.

Only Epifat crap I bought was the Offspring "Smash" and a shit Bad Religion album (Recipe For Hate). Had friends into stuff like NOFX, Lagwagon, Propagandhi etc but I only ever had dupped tape copies of those

which spawned the spawn soundtrack (sorry for the bad pun). except that a lot of the songs on judgment night are actually pretty good, though

uhh this soundtrack kind of ruled. the onyx/biohazard title track in particular was bad ass. MAN I WANT TO HEAR IT RIGHT NOW AND TEAR UP MY CUBICLE

someone gave me a Jamiroquai album once; eventually, I forgave him

Nah, Kenickie are alright.

China Drum, they did some good singles and were OK live but their album sucked, I sold that back pretty quickly

offspring's "smash" is still a fun album! nitro (YOUTH ENERGY) is a fun song!! its fun!!!

well, i DID say that a lot of the songs (including the onyx/biohazard one) ARE pretty good. it definitely is a product of its time, though.

no-one's gonna admit to liking Jamiroquai, then?

oh shit, I actually forgot I bought the return of the space cowboy until you wrote that...

is it okay if I say Primus, too? does anyone still listen to Primus? I haven't thought about them in years.

Pork Soda was on BMG so I bet a lot of people got that one.

that guy in onyx sounds so mad all the time. it's awesome! he is so angry he doesn't even care if rapping like that hurts his throat (i assume it does)

Still love "Cosmic Girl". And one other Jamiroquai song, the name of which escapes me.

"The Toys Go Winding Down" is still great

actually, i'd be curious how much impact BMG and Columbia House had on a lot of these confessions

oh shit yeah me and my pals were totally into Primus

Pork Soda was on BMG so I bet a lot of people got that one.

I think I might have actually.

was my name is mud on it? I think i sold it to a mate who loved them.

I think primus is very consistent in that the same demographic of people hated them the same amount every year, so it's not something you could fall for in one decade any more than the other.

I had a China Drum album! Possibly even from after they stopped being called China Drum! I only bought it for the secret Kate Bush cover hidden track...

Mention of BMG reminds me that they sent me badges for 99th rate Britpoppers Northern Uproar and Out Of My Hair weekly for about 3 years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A0XGWviK_0

like yes, I get that dude's voice can be like kryptonite but I still love this song (and Frizzle Fry)

Oasis, for their first two albums and several singles

les claypool's bass playing style is obnoxious. i'm not even sure he is all that good! maybe i should keep smokin on this bong a little bit longer

That was the album I was talking about yeah. I already had the Kate Bush cover cos it was a B-side before the album came out.

xpost re China Drum

Quite like Primus tbh. And Kenickie.

whenever i think of Onyx these days (and i still heart bacdafucup and all we got iz us), i think mostly of fredro as bird on the wire (and his over-the-top cursing when they brought him into the station for questioning).

And ATR were awesome fuiud

is it okay if I say Primus, too? does anyone still listen to Primus? I haven't thought about them in years.

― Mr. Que, Thursday, April 15, 2010 3:16 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Whiney G. bitched me out for talking bad about Primus the other day.

i bet colonel poo loved Leatherface

lol I finally understand what "fuiud" stands for

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUAbRwgkDZ0&feature=PlayList&p=5FE3469F70B0FF73&playnext_from=PL&index=0&playnext=1

Random 90s musings: I felt bad for Cay when the Distillers were on every kids' backpack in my hometown cz the Distillers sounded like a less interesting Cay to me, but I suspect the singer's voice would be pretty much nails on blackboard to me at this point.

my early to mid 90's are probably summed up by my love of Primus and Phish, both of whom I don't hate now but really have no interest in listening to.

i started to like they might be giants when i saw a couple of their songs paired with the show Tiny Toons

is there going to be an 80s version of these threads?

I started to like They Might Be Giants when I saw their video on Nick Rocks.

I had Frizzle Fry and Sailing the Seas of Cheese and saw Primus live twice, maybe three times (once with Tad, once with Fishbone, maybe once more) around that time. But Pork Soda sucked and that was where I bailed. I also owned the Judgment Night and Crow soundtracks, and a bunch of others, like Cool World. There was a great song on the Cool World soundtrack by The Cult that was weird and industrial, and I really wanted them to go in that direction for a whole album but they didn't.

second tier big beat: propellerheads, death in vegas, etc. crystal method.

oh wait how could i possibly have forgotten that i went to 15 phish shows between 1996 and 2000?

unfortunately the answer is not "i smoked too much weed"

tbh im not ashamed though it was fun

i was down with primus all the way up to the brown album which is just fucking horrifying. gotta say, even if you dont dig his style, saying claypool is not an incredibly talented bass player is straight up crazy talk

is there going to be an 80s version of these threads?

that's ILM in general, innit?!?

don't mind Primus nowadays -- i also bailed out w/ pork soda -- but i just don't feel any great need to listen to their music these days.

les claypool's bass playing sounds like a fat robot farting.

which might be a good thing (?)

robots are awesome, so yeah

but i don't think he bass playing sounds like that

saying les claypool's bass playing doesn't sound like robot farts is straight up crazy talk

Cool World soundtrack was directly responsible for America's brief infatuation with My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult, right?

yup

heh cool world. kim basinger as a cartoon is so much hotter than kim basinger irl

Whiney G. bitched me out for talking bad about Primus the other day.

I always hated Primus. Whiney has some inexplicable opinions sometimes.

Cool World soundtrack was directly responsible for America's brief infatuation with My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult, right?

They were also on the Crow soundtrack; in fact, they actually performed in the movie.

yeah but The Crow was like.. 3? years after Cool World

don't front y'all, some of yous owned at least one of these i bet:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/18/Sixteen_Stone.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f2/Razorblade_suitcase.jpg

basically:

bush was to america what the fun lovin' criminals was to europe/UK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP0dfqjBKbU

^^^ still bad-ass btw; although in general even though I don't really hate their later stuff TKK comes across much better if I pretend they stopped making music in 1992

i still rep for those bush albums fyi

steve albini produced razorblade suitcase!! i didn't know that until a few years ago

yeah it sounds awes too

err uh sorry steve albini "recorded" razorblade suitcase, or whatever term he prefers

I still like a number of bush's singles.

Actually, I hated them in the 90s and grew to like them as alternative radio in the 00s got so bad that I pined for the good old days.

oh god

O________________O

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gADC9_Rs6EU

I have been spending most of the day trawling through Youtube based off of artists mentioned in this thread

Yeah, and I actually saw them play a 16-minute version of Everything Zen at a festival once. It was one of the worst concert moments of my life. xxp

glycerine is a fucking shit song tho.

and come down is about 2 minutes too long

there's no sex in yr violence, mate

the crow ost is the worst record i have ever heard

seriously.
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, May 12, 2004 7:11 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

if we're talking mediocre, tuneless, hookless, un-rocking, zeitgeist-grabbing record, then yeah, ugh. so bad.
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, May 12, 2004 7:12 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Worse than the "Romeo + Juliet" OST?

1. #1 Crush performed by Garbage - 4:46
2. Local God performed by Everclear - 3:55
3. Angel performed by Gavin Friday - 4:19
4. Pretty Piece of Flesh performed by One Inch Punch - 4:52
5. Kissing You performed by Des'ree - 4:57
6. Whatever (I Had a Dream) performed by Butthole Surfers - 4:09
7. Lovefool performed by Cardigans - 3:18
8. Young Hearts Run Free performed by Kym Mazelle - 4:15
9. Everybody's Free (To Feel Good) performed by Quindon Tarver - 1:43
10. To You I Bestow performed by Mundy - 3:58
11. Talk Show Host performed by Radiohead - 4:17
12. Little Star performed by Stina Nordenstam - 3:39
13. You and Me Song performed by Wannadies - 5:25

(ignoring "Lovefool", obviously).

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, May 12, 2004 7:17 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark

Mouth vs Swallowed

i like NINs cover of dead souls better than the original! mUahaAHAHAAHAHHAHA

i like gogol's version best

the Pigface mention upthread reminds me of NIN's way better take on "Suck":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TraSBSNfpCg

xpost I worked at Kitchen Sink Press and was hired to open requests for The Crow merchandise catalog offered in tiny print the soundtrack (Tundra published the comic). 1000s of letters pouring in, most addressed to 'Eric Draven' himself. I've kept a box of the looniest/best all these years, including a full script home-video version by some goth kids and their Dad.

please post these cultural treasures! (names redacted to protect me)

haha wow xp

xxp "some goth kids and their Dad" = "some goth dad and his unlucky kids"

some goth kids and their Dad

http://worldreligion.nielsonpi.com/media/goths2.jpg

Little Nicky soundtrack was the worst alt-rock soundtrack ever, guys:

1. School of Hard Knocks - P.O.D.
2. Pardon Me - Incubus
3. Change (in the House of Flies) - Deftones
4. (Rock) Superstar - Cypress Hill
5. Natural High - Insolence
6. Points of Authority - Linkin Park
7. Stupify - Disturbed (Fu's Forbidden Little Nicky Remix, Fu's Forbidden Little Nicky remix)
8. Nothing - Unloco
9. When Worlds Collide - Powerman 5000
10. Cave - Muse
11. Take My Picture - Filter
12. Be Quiet and Drive (Far Away - Deftones (acoustic)

popeyes chicken fucking kicks ass

i imagine that the Crow goth family was a little more down-market/trashy than the family in the picture i put up here, though.

popeye's fucking chicken fucks ass

bush was to america what the fun lovin' criminals was to europe/UK

― Getting My Volcano On (Eisbaer), Thursday, April 15, 2010 7:45 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Thing is the 'no-one cares about Bush in the UK' thing was outdated by like their second album, if not before - they were pretty big by then, not no.1 album big but top 10 album surely

did the UK like fun lovin criminals a lot or something?

Chili Peppers is probably my most honest and realistic answer for this thing btw, everything else was either too much of a passing fancy to fret about or still objectively holds up

i dont think bush ever played the big tours or sold many records. You could probably get 1 week in the top ten with less than 10,000 sales

xp yeah they had quite a few hit singles and the singer is STILL a P-list TV presenter staple here

Chili Peppers is a good answer

the chili peppers are embarrassing to admit to liking NOW -- but i liked blood sugar sex magik well enough in 1991 (though it's not something i'd listen to nowadays). that record did kind of mark the beginning of them turning into the alternative version of hair metal though.

Presidents of the United States of America

yeah, pre-90s chili peppers are still cool by me, especially TRUE MEN DONT KILL COYOTES

Popeye's chicken ain't no this place chicken.

These threads all suck.

― bamcquern, Thursday, April 15, 2010 5:29 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

i regret falling for music

i regret nothing

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NMUZfRr71Yk/SYMiT9iomAI/AAAAAAAAC64/XjVGrVWeOao/s400/NoRegrets.jpg
think about it ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkl5qIi30yw

I would have rightfully regretted being a Young Republican in the 90s, if I were a Young Republican in the 90s, and all the musical accoutrements that come with being a Young Republican. (The one Young Republican I knew was heavily into Madonna.)

The funny thing about regret is, it's better to regret something you have done than SATANSATANSATANSATANetc

The dude did come to school once dressed in black negligee and blonde wig waving a picture he got taken of himself with Newt Gingrich, which I guess is actually pretty cool now that I think about it.

lol I was at that Orbital show

Swallowed remains the shittest song of all time imo

I know someone has already mentioned them once, but at the age of 12 I absolutely loved the Spin Doctors. Thing is, I feel I should try to revisit them sometime, since as I simply lost interest in them, I gradually slid into the received opinion that they sucked, but I can't promise I ever really heard them as sucking. I'm curious if that would happen now.

Bush is ironically cool and it has always been cool

A sad fact widely known
The most impassionate song
To a lonely soul
Is so easily outgrown
But don't forget the songs
That made you smile
And the songs that made you cry
When you lay in awe
On the bedroom floor
And said : "Oh, oh, smother me Mother..."
No ...
Rubber ring, rubber ring, rubber ring, rubber ring
La ...

The passing of time
And all of its crimes
Is making me sad again
The passing of time
And all of its sickening crimes
Is making me sad again
But don't forget the songs
That made you cry
And the songs that saved your life
Yes, you're older now
And you're a clever swine
But they were the only ones who ever stood by you

Whent he first Garbage album came out, I was convinced they were going to change the world. I hate to admit that I was also inexplicably a fan of Coal Chamber for about a month in lower sixth form.

in retrospect i've gotta agree that Atari Teenage Riot have not aged well at all.

Probably spending too much time & enthusiasm following the diminishing returns '90s output of heroes like Sonic Youth, Paul Westerburg, Bob Mould & Lou Reed.

Sebadoh feels like some bullshit now.

in retrospect i've gotta agree that Atari Teenage Riot have not aged well at all.

haha yeah, i listened to a bit of their stuff a week ago and was shocked at how ridiculous it sounded to me now

Pavement.

Sebadoh feels like some bullshit now.

^^^^^^^

http://img.youtube.com/vi/6Zwl4JV-s5A/0.jpg

I still love The Freed Man, Weed Forestin' & III, but the Sub Pop stuff is a pretty rapid decline (at least, I thought so at the time - I never bothered with anything post Bubble & Scrape).

xp

xxpost yeah, I'll try to dig those out. even better than The Crow weirdos were the pervs writing love letters to Cherry Poptart or Omaha the Cat Dancer.

The Sebadoh song 'Too Pure' is for all time but maybe that was a needle in a haystack by that point idk

Weird, Too Pure came on my ipod on shuffle last night and I was just thinking to myself how great it was and how Sebadoh still hold up. tbh I never listen to them by choice these days.

Kinda thinking if Atari Teenage Riot ever didn't sound ridiculous to you then maybe that's the problem. They've always been ridiculous. Ridiculously great :)

Remember when everyone loved Deserter's Songs by Mercury Rev?

Just saying...

I actually think that holds up much better than All Is Dream. But they didn't do themselves any favors by only making dull/nondescript records after that.

yeah it wasn't a bad album really, but as you say the follow ups were so meh that it affected my opinion of DS.

Deserter's Songs is great, All is Dream has like two good songs on it. and it was all downhill from there

still love The Funny Bird. was gonna mention All Is Dream on the other thread.

Remember when everyone loved Deserter's Songs by Mercury Rev?

less of this "everyone" please

Remember when everyone lex loved Deserter's Songs by Mercury Rev?

No

I'd be surprised if the lex had ever heard it tbh.

i have! didn't even think it was that horrible (the voice, though, ugh) but there was certainly no "everyone loved this" about it

i can't remember the name of their actually half-decent single though. motorway something.

I think you mean Goddess on a Hiway?

I like all Mercury Rev up until (and including) All Is Dream. They were great on the All Is Dream tour

that's the one!

Delta Sun Bottleneck Stomp was better

dunno, mercury rev were pretty great in the 90s. the fact that they've trailed off into suckiness this century doesn't make those 90s records any less good.

NNCK

in the 90s I was a hardcore anglophile, so the answer to this for me is a good 40-70% of various bands hyped by NME, incl. most of the obvious Britpop usual suspects. The most painful thing about looking back on this is thinking about how much hard-earned pizza delivery & lawnmowing cash I dropped on shitty import UK singles ($10 a piece a the time & u had to have the various b-sides scattered throughout multiple versions).

Deserters Songs is still classic btw.

NNCK

^^^

I love tons of "similar" shit along the psych/folk/freak/drone/improv axis but NNCK is a waste of time.

was anyone here into G Love and Special Sauce?

yep - even saw em live once or twice.

the whole jazz-rap thing didn't age very well, did it? Tribe excepted obv, & maaaaybe Guru & Digable Planets. Maybe.

steve albini produced razorblade suitcase!! i didn't know that until a few years ago

lol i remember this being very "controversial"

wtf is NNCK

oh No Neck Blues Band (why is this not abreviated NNBB...?)

N(o) N(e)CK

sorry but nnck have a couple of really good albums

And about 50 bad ones...

doesnt make the good ones crap

Too much effort to find the needle in the haystack.

Third Eye Blind. For a couple of weeks.

re: third eye blind, spin doctors, hootie -- I don't remember anyone championing these bands as anything other than innocuous background music, nothing like the weird cult of dave matthews.

the first 3EB album was my shit in 4th grade

the whole jazz-rap thing didn't age very well, did it?

Yay, I finally thought of mine: Us3.

Where I fell for almost nothing in the 00's and have zero regrets, the exact opposite is true about the 90's. I fell for pretty much everything in the 90's, because I wasn't old enough to know better.

As of the past 6 months, I love Sebadoh more than ever, so they are anything but bullshit.

3rd eye blind are a legitimately very good band who have made one great album

all of you pokemon card-carrying 90s babies can post about the vines in the other thread iirc

Oasis. Although I am still a 'Definitely Maybe' apologist.

I listened to 40oz to Freedom a whole lot and had never smoked weed or drank or anything, I just really liked the music. Recently revisited it and it was kind of embarrassing...

Kula Shaker for me as well.

new age music w/ hip hop beats

that Enigma album is still dope imo

how about Deep Forest, then?

haven't heard that in an age. suspect I'd still dig it.

re: third eye blind, spin doctors, hootie -- I don't remember anyone championing these bands as anything other than innocuous background music, nothing like the weird cult of dave matthews.

For about 3 minutes in Holland, watching MTV Europe and seeing video after video of twee pop, the Spin Doctors' "Two Princes" sounded so...substantial. If that makes any sense. It was less a matter of liking the song than of some recognition of cultural differences in musical approaches yadda yadda yadda, but it shocked me that that song would come as a breath of fresh air.

3rd eye blind are a legitimately very good band who have made one great album

Don't forget, 3EB are also as DIY as Fugazi, if not more so!

I started listening to New Found Glory with the sole intent of impressing a girl who was into the whole "emo" thing, shortly before emo reached goth levels of subculture dilution/erosion. Amazingly, quoting shit like "I can't dream anymore since you've gone / I miss you singing me to sleep" didn't get me laid.

Oh yeah! I remember being really into "From Screen to Stereo" when that came out. Think that was 2000s tho....

Liz Phair
Spin Doctors definitely (hated them at first, worked in a record store where the LP was spun so often I began to like it, bought it for younger sister for birthday as intro to "alternative" stuff, she called me on that BS soon after & I saw the light)
Royal Trux and all that Drag City stuff
There was a song by a band called The Men that earwormed me

but #1 winnah! is
Palace Brothers(altho I could still probably get behind a 45-minute CD of their/his best songs, all the rest is lazy croaky faux-backwoods neo-bullshit and I cannot forgive him his 00s 'freak-folk' spawn)

"For about 3 minutes in Holland, watching MTV Europe and seeing video after video of twee pop, the Spin Doctors' "Two Princes" sounded so...substantial."

wait, you must tell us of this twee pop against which Two Princes sounds like Rambo!

first things that come to mind for me are:

Marilyn Manson, who did eventually do some good songs, but to me that first album is just unlistenable today.

post-Exit Planet Dust trip hop such as Crystal Method, anything on Moonshine, and all Chemical Bros after they stopped using break loops, and started programming their own. I was into this stuff before I discovered Ninja Tune and quickly realized how awful the stuff was. For that matter, I agree with a few above that Ninja Tune itself got pretty bad (once they started hyping the shit out of Mr Scruff I stopped following the label), and even the best stuff doesn't stand the test of time very well.

EBM/goth siht - anything other than VNV Nation and Apoptygma Berzerk's first few albums was pure ass, and even that stuff doesn't hold up very well imo. The time I scraped change together to buy a Læther Strip CD based on some idiot's recommendation was not only the end of my EBM phase, but when I first started actively seeking mp3s before buying albums.

industrial thrash crossover: Skrew, Fear Factory, one or two albums by Frontline Assembly, Skinny Puppy's 'The Process' (ugh), and of course Rammstein. I guess this was more, for me, that it just never met my expectations. I loved metal, I loved Skinny Puppy, so it seemed natural they should meet.

Containe, maybe, emblematic of the whole idea of following the obscure side-projects of indie-rockers.

leave Kenickie alone i'm warning yers.

all Chemical Bros after they stopped using break loops, and started programming their own.

Still dig these guys.

Smashing Pumpkins, Placebo..... Jocasta?

I kept buying albums by The Mission (or The Mission UK to pedantics) into the early 90's well after I should have abandoned ship. One could credibly argue that I shouldn't have bought any albums by the Mission, but that's a separate thread.

(once they started hyping the shit out of Mr Scruff I stopped following the label)

This is, for the most part, on the money. I'd make a notable exception for DJ Food's Now Listen comp, which actually featured a use of "Ug" underneath Motion Man's "Terrorist" that I think is pretty dope.

Two words: Wax Trax

A lot of bad CanCon stuff: Our Lady Peace, Rusty, I Mother Earth, Big Sugar, The Tea Party... if it had guitars and MuchMusic played it, I was in.

^I'm so sorry.

Altho I'll still rep for some of the earlier Big Sugar tracks. Their version of "Wild Ox Moan" alone forgives them many sins.

Big Sugar is still the loudest band I've ever seen live.

A list a mile wide here:

*Shaquille O'Neal's rap albums
*Aerosmith (srsly Get a Grip is soooooo bad)
*Genesis's "The Way We Walk" live album volume 2, The Shorts, and the I Can't Dance material
*Rap without explicit lyric labels (cuz my mama wouldn't let me have it so I tried to find what I could that wasn't and it was crap like DJ Jazzy Jeff and Fresh Prince's "Code red" album)
*Sevendust (their s/t blows)
*Van Halen 3

^ winner

post Richey Manics Street Preachers - there are some good tracks on "Everything Must Go", but the lyrics are garbage and then there was the whole "private toilet at Glastonbury" debacle

re: shaq, I liked (and still like) can we rock what's up doc, but at no time did I feel like Shaq was trying to dupe me -- did he have some campaign to be taken seriously as a rapper that I missed?

i like that song cuz of the Fu Schnickens verses. as far as I know, Shaq didn't seem to think his rap was as silly as the general populace did, given the fact that after his first album, he got uber serious with stuff like "Biological Didn't Bother" rather than keeping the 'jokey' atmosphere from the first (god I feel bad knowing this much about a shaq album, much less two!)

I do have a pretty soft spot in my heart for (Phil is my father/My) "Biologicals Didn't Bother."

EBM/goth siht - anything other than VNV Nation and Apoptygma Berzerk's first few albums was pure ass

You sound like my roommate circa 2001-2002!

When i was a kid I was really into Vanilla Ice, up until TMNT2. Also MC Hammer. Though I think MC Hammer is still cool, Ice is a complete tool. Except for "Havin' a Roni". LOL

Dave Matthews Band. Not so much that they're "bullshit" but I was convinced they were next level shit or something.

Two words: Wax Trax

The record store in Denver?

really like that place, went the only time I've ever been to Denver

Yeah, since Twist & Shout sprouted up a mile away though they've been losing a lot of business. They still have the best as far as used vinyl goes, and the couple guys who work there aren't even close to being fucking hipsters. Just music lovers.

oh that blows -- I spent quite a bit of money there the only time I was there.

Kenickie are still magnificent.

never heard of kenickie til a couple weeks ago a nice song came up on lastfm. im moved to sample the rest of their stuff i guess.

Kenickie are still magnificent.

Sublime and every band following.

For a while, I might have responded Kula Shaker, but I have relistened to the "K" album and found it is actually a great album. Surely it wasn't the next big thing like some thought for a couple months in 1996, but it's still pretty good, and the other albums they have released afterwards aren't all that bad either.

Using swastikas obviously was no good idea though, even though I am sure he was right he was only using them because they were a much used Asian symbol.

You know, Space should fall into this category but for a mid-tier post-Britpop band, they weren't too bad at all.

ha I was going to mention Space but I don't really find them embarrassing

Skinny Puppy's 'The Process' (ugh)

FYI they got good again after this album

Opening track of The Process is awesome. Not sure about the rest of it.

I was also enamored with Mansun (ugh, horrible name for a band).