Which "Listening Club" is of least interest to you?

I wd like a listening club for really slow lazy people, cz I was pretty psyched to listen along with the first week of several of these, except I still haven't heard the first week albums and I'm not even looking at the 2nd week ones

I'd rather there was a listening club started that would suit my taste in music

This would be the least interest to me.

cool, this poll reaches the obvious and correct conclusion that everyone wants in on the classical club

Metal. Actually, I was already in two "metal listening clubs" via roommate who adored Metallica and Slayer in the 80s, and later a record store gig with coworker who was into stuff like Prong. So I've tried repeatedly, and do not like.

I guess Metal, but it's not like I'm proud of that or anything.

Metal isn't music. It's a coping mechanism for people who can't deal otherwise.

*sets the trap for pfunkboy and waits*

Jazz is boring. Didn't somebody start a classical club? That too.

I'd love to participate in them all but alas I don't have time. Except prog, I can happily live in a world without prog.

One of the first three. Voted hip-hop.

geir hongro doesn't care about black people

lol at poll idea

i kinda want to start a 70's hard rock and disco club.

"One of the first three. Voted hip-hop."

So Geir thinks there's merit in funk? I had no idea.

"i kinda want to start a 70's hard rock and disco club."

Is that one club for both?

yes.

i would like for someone to tell me how to access spotify in the US because even the listening part is arduous when i don't have the album already.

i tried using some online directions but they lead to dead links :(

album name + mediafire.com/megaupload.com

Jazz.

i kinda want to start a 70's hard rock and disco club.

DON'T TALK ABOUT IT
JUST DO IT
DO IT
IT'S ROCK & ROLL AND THE MESSAGE IS
DO IT
DO IT

metal listening club is obviously the best one because it's the one that inspired all the copycats

probably (sadly) jazz

metal

which of these clubs has the best snacks.

^ had to be asked

this poll sucks

the state of the board today

On the plus side, I felt bad about my vote and now I'm listening to Kyuss.

album name + mediafire.com/megaupload.com
i am aware of how to do this, but i don't really want to commit to storing all of these albums or going through the trouble of downloading them

i want spotify!

So Geir thinks there's merit in funk?

Funk is so much. There is some funk that I strongly despise (i.e. James Brown), but also some that I really like (i.e. 70s Herbie Hancock).

Prog, probably.

I always marvel at your James Brown loathing, Geir. Some of his work is sublime to me.

I was thinking of starting a Country Club, but then I'd have to exclude many of you.

Why?

I'd rather there was a listening club started that would suit my taste in music - reggae/dub/dancehall :-( Of the choices probably metal or hip-hop.

I was thinking of starting a Country Club, but then I'd have to exclude many of you.

― President Keyes

looooool joek

hard rock is some of my favorite music ever but imo metal is where it goes to die and get monochromatic and annoying, so i'm voting for metal

some dude, do you like any metal?

Oh wait LEAST. Definitely prog.

I'd rather there was a listening club started that would suit my taste in music - reggae/dub/dancehall

there was some talk about doing that in the original genre poll thread that spawned all the new clubs. I've been thinking about starting it (though I also thought brotherlovesdub was going to?), but would want to wait about a month since i'm going on vacation in late May. Also, I'm not quite sure how to handle it: albums/comps? where to start? etc

Comps are albums too! Or we could do riddims!

Why?

Uber-genius that I am I just got this...

I was going to do it. Then all the others popped up, plus the 1990s poll and some shit about a viking and i've lost the drive to start it. If someone wants to start it, don't wait for me. If it was up to me, i'd wait until the other clubs died off a bit so it wasn't so overwhelming.

I think I suggested a geographical theme somewhere on that thread - caribbean music club could be great, though cramming all that into one might be a bit ambitious

I didn't even realize these things were happening until like today.

Compilations are essential in reggae, in my opinion.

hmm I would totally be down for a Country Club. Assuming Jews are allowed. And no one makes me listen to Big and Rich

We could make that thread where I ramble endlessly about 14 Just Ragga compilations the Dancehall Club lol.

Oh yeah, I'm not sure why I said that: I could barely participate in it without comps. I was thinking today a riddim format would be pretty fun, but then i'm only half decent at recognizing riddims. Plus it would have to be all youtube then, no? And maybe annoying to non-fans? Or I could be overthinking the shit out of this?

"I'd wait until the other clubs died off a bit so it wasn't so overwhelming." was basically what I decided, but feel free to start one now Alex!

Someone should do a reggae/dub/ska/dancehall thread.

some dude, do you like any metal?

― ksh, Friday, April 30, 2010 4:43 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

most of what little metal i like is either early/proto metal British bands, or the kind of popular stuff that serious metal fans turn their nose up at (Black Album Metallica, System of a Down).

fair enough! (i'm a metal fan, and i like Black Album and the SoaD that i've heard)

we have another club Reggae/Dub/Dancehall Listening Club

where everyone should post ska

hey scott wheres your hard rock disco club?

jazz suxx

wrong

would rather join a scott seward listening club than any other genre

We should start a Shed 7 Listening Club, and then fill it with leaked albums or something.

would rather join a scott seward listening club than any other genre

― waka khan (samosa gibreel), Monday, May 3, 2010 11:11 AM

Scott is supposed to be doing a Hard Rock & Disco Listening Club

would rather join a scott seward listening club than any other genre

― waka khan (samosa gibreel), Monday, May 3, 2010 11:11 AM

― ksh, Monday, May 3, 2010 12:03 PM

Voted hip-hop.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Voted hip-hop.

― anagram

Same here. I find the genre pretty worthless

would rather join a scott seward listening club than any other genre

― waka khan (samosa gibreel), Monday, May 3, 2010 11:11 AM

― ksh, Monday, May 3, 2010 12:03 PM

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, May 3, 2010 12:17 PM (10 hours ago) Bookmark

man ksh & ilxor are like ilx's buttkissin duo

that said i agree

Buttkissin' trio, then.

Voted Brazilian

Can start a House music thread 'cos that's where i'm not a viking an expert>

I imagine it's not an albums genre though, so don't how it would work - playlists or youtubes maybe?

not an expert at including the word "someone" in that xpost, either

dj mixes

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

rofl, ilm has a lot of haters

wonder how the reggae , ambient and classical clubs would have done.

Yay! Funk wins!

are you gonna curate a week on that?

Possibly, if you're short of contributors

Yay! Funk wins!

New Bord Description?

How many clubs are people following? How are you coping?

As much as want to dive into the prog and kraut ones, i'm already finding that being involved in the funk, jazz, hiphop and now ambient ones have basically taken over my listening habits (read "life")

Still, this mode of discovery beats relying on a mess of other sources and less than truthful hype

Keeping an eye on them all, plenty of time to catch up on them all, its not like you need to participate on the 1st day. Sure beats just watching tv in the evenings.

Still hard to slot in enough when I try and listen to each one twice - mor if I like

would be interested in hearing what the 25 people who voted "Metal" don't like about metal, assuming--probably pretty safely--that the voters aren't metal nerds who just don't want to join in for whatever reason

I voted Metal and then said this:

On the plus side, I felt bad about my vote and now I'm listening to Kyuss.

― elephant rob, Friday, April 30, 2010 3:00 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark

"Sky Valley" to be specific, which I partially liked, more so that I was expecting to. My problem is the vocals&lyrics (I generally ignore lyrics in most genres, but these were hard to get past) and the just the general masculine shouty-ness of Metal. Still, writing off entire genres is small-minded and I regret voting at all. Having listened to the Kyuss, I'd actually like to hear other kinds of stuff, but I don't think I can do 3 albums a week.

i have like four metal albums i like and listen to a few times a year and i don't feel the need to add any more albums to that list, prog i have absolutely no interest in whatsoever and is the uncoolest lamest shit to me. brazilian music and rn'b are huge blindspots, the latter of which i've been catching up on the past year or so. jazz and funk are cool i guess, but i don't feel like any pressing need to get into them at this point in my life.

what four metal records?

ok maybe it's only 3 really

mastodon - remission
cannibal corpse - hammer smashed face
slayer - reign in blood

neat! was just curious

would love to know what music those 25 do listen to, just out of curiosity

Samosa you said in the Ariel P thread that it's a good thing when your favorite dudes have an extensive list of favorites that you've never heard of. You don't have any interest in getting around to checking out some stuff outta yr zone right now though?

would love to know what music those 25 do listen to, just out of curiosity

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname)

me too!

I can't remember if I voted in this or not, but I would have voted metal (despite apparently some of my favorite bands being classifiable as "metal", a term I apparently don't understand even a little bit) because any genre that celebrates a dude like Burzum is just not for me.

To be fair metal kind of grudgingly celebrates him. . .

his music yes, not actually him though.

Celebrating his music celebrates him. I get why it happens but I, personally, can't go there (for what are, I hope, obvious reasons).

yeah but it isnt celebrating the dude, its celebrating the music (and def plenty of metal dudes dont do either tbh).

i mean wagner was a complete prick but i can still get down with his stuff too

xposts

what about metal that doesn't celebrate burzum

xpost jjjusten OTM re: wagner

yeah i mean if wagner had just gotten around to stabbing Mendelssohn to death they'd be basically the same story (not really kidding here, btw. dude had problems.)

The main point in Wagner's favor is that he isn't alive anymore to profit from his music. If I buy something he's written (which btw would be unlikely, for similar reasons), I'm not giving money to someone who hates people like me.

It's unfortunate that that is the association I have with the word "metal" but that combined the experiences I had growing up with the dudes who proclaimed themselves metal fans (John, did I ever tell you that when you first moved to town I just kind of assumed you were a racist based on who you were hanging out with? If it weren't for having classes together and the track team, I might have mistakenly avoided you for YEARS) makes me wary, regardless of whatever intellectual angle I apply to it.

I mean, yes I know that metal != racism but it is pretty difficult to erase the association when you have dudes like the dude behind Burzum/Darkthrone around and he is considered one of the greats to the point where entire popular subgenres pop up around him. It is pretty hard for me to feel like there's a space for me in that fandom, regardless if whether there is or not.

you cant judge a whole genre based on one guy.

i pretty much avoided burzum til last year

and i'll never buy one of his records

Samosa you said in the Ariel P thread that it's a good thing when your favorite dudes have an extensive list of favorites that you've never heard of. You don't have any interest in getting around to checking out some stuff outta yr zone right now though?

― underwater, please (bear, bear, bear), Wednesday, May 5, 2010 5:45 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i consider myself pretty interested in stuff outside my zone right now, i've been kicking this great sun ra doo-wop compilation and a mulatu astatke anthology, a sergei rachmaninoff piano concerto, and i'm part of a mixtape trading club which has gotten me listening to some really weird shit. but at the same time it's like, my zone is my zone for a reason y'know? i'd rather listen to a tonne of punk 7"s or rap mixtapes or uk funky radio sets and have a real feel for the the releases i love best than spend time endlessly grasping at music i don't know anything about. and it's not like i'm not open to new stuff, last year i fell pretty hard for rn'b via the-dream and electrik red and i'm wading through that now. i don't know, life is long i guess.

did any of you guys ever see this poll?
ILX : What is The Genre Of Music You Dislike/Hate Most?

what a worthless poll idea

cool, gotcha SG xp

which one m@tt?

you cant judge a whole genre based on one guy.

Yes you can! It just isn't very fair. And, like I said, a lot of my initial antipathy came from the dudes who were really into this stuff; there are a lot of band like Iron Maiden who I'll listen to now who were total anethema would-not-touch until like halfway through high school because I assumed the racist dudes who liked them did so because the music itself was racist. Obviously I was wrong but that doesn't change the fact that both metal and country are waaaaaay down my priority list in terms of music I'm interested in exploring.

btw, on the original poll that spurned these listening clubs, I voted for African music so if someone who knows they're stuff about this wants to start (yet) another listening club, I'd be there.

Also, I didn't realise there were two of these polls originally. Good to at least see that Jazz did get some votes.

Genre you know nothing about and would like to learn/be part of/indulge in: A Poll.

Genre you know nothing about and would like to learn/be part of/indulge in: A (revised) Poll.

*their stuff

I wish I had time to read *all* these clubs. It's a top idea. So far I've only read funk.

I would make time to read one on African music (as nebulous a concept as that is) though.

But I guess I *need* to read the hip hop and r&b one.

I would like to see a listening club based on record labels. That I can get behind.

srsly metal dudes, i get where you're coming from but frontin like burzum is some unique outlier in the world of metal and the rest of the genre is this normal moral world of people who are only fascinated with lyrics endlessly caught up on violence and hatred and rape as a source of affect or whatever is weak imo. obv not all metal musicians are as reprehensible as burzum, but the sentiment i imagine hi dere is so repulsed by is a huge part of metal.

it really isn't though.

uh dont you only own 3 metal albums

two of which are culturally sensitive artifacts Hammer Smashed Face and uh Reign in Blood

*blushes*

I think i can safely say mordy to thread

i mean yeah i get where all this is coming from but it reminds me of the dudes that used to say shit about how rap music was all and only about beating up and abusing women and the glorification of drugs and street crime

yeah i mean, not right now, but i have in the past listened to a lot of noise (american tapes, wolf eyes esp. kinda stuff) and yeah it has bothered me where the source of the partic. violence comes from, but i mean think of someone like merzbow where a lot of his idea of violence comes from a "meat is murder" type activism, and so is kinda fuzzy when u think abt it. catharsis obv. does not equal mysogyny.

HI DERE, it's anachronistic to decry metal because of Burzum. How about all the metal that was written before 1994 (when Filosofem came out), or all the metal written after 1994 that completely ignores the black metal genre in its composition? It's not like one tightly-knit genre where everyone feels the same way, plays with the same people, etc. Especially because of the regional diversity and the fact that NSBM has a super conflicted relationship with the rest of metal.

Yes you can! It just isn't very fair. And, like I said, a lot of my initial antipathy came from the dudes who were really into this stuff;

this is like schwantz's problem with "punk" - since he had a freshman year roommate who was a total idiot and also into shitty hardcore bands/obsessed with meeting some Maximum RnR definition of "true" punk; it's forever made him wary of anything associated with the term. it sparked such a deep-seated antipathy he's unable to grasp that there might be a difference between, say, Youth of Today and the Ramones.

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and, like, a huge WORLD of difference.

metal is not all Burzum

lol

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Masami_Akita_5267969.jpg

Personally, I listen to NSBM too, but I'm kinda fascinated by the fucked up elements of it (and would actually prefer to listen to Absurd sometimes than Burzum). I can definitely understand someone not being interested in that, but so much metal is totally divorced from NSBM politics + culture.

it reminds me of the dudes that used to say shit about how rap music was all and only about beating up and abusing women and the glorification of drugs and street crime

sadly rap has more or less devolved into this over time.

srsly metal dudes, i get where you're coming from but frontin like burzum is some unique outlier in the world of metal and the rest of the genre is this normal moral world of people who are only fascinated with lyrics endlessly caught up on violence and hatred and rape as a source of affect or whatever is weak imo. obv not all metal musicians are as reprehensible as burzum, but the sentiment i imagine hi dere is so repulsed by is a huge part of metal.

Whether it is or isn't is kind of beside the point.

However unfairly, I have issues when it comes to certain subsections of metal and country, ergo I am not particularly interested in learning more about them. Furthermore, there are particular artists who receive praise for their work who really make me cringe, mostly because their real-life beliefs cross a line I'm not willing to go over to enjoy their music. That's really all I mean to say and some of the babbling in my too-long post should really be ignored because it's a lot of baggage coming from being the Only Black Kid while growing up.

And, like I said, there are apparently gigantic chunks of music considered metal that I would not have called metal bands, or at least distinct from the genre that comes to mind when I see the word "metal".

well that's not fair, nowadays its more or less just empty materialism + drug dealing. mysogyny is extra

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which one m@tt?

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, May 5, 2010 10:59 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this poll! like the listening clubs seem like good ideas, i don't get why there should be poll like this, a negative poll

I think there's enough metal genre stuff going on that's totally not affiliated with Burzum, or even mindless violence/hate. Stuff like Mastodon, Kyuss, or like all the folk metal artists I posted in the Listening Thread this week (Medieval German folk, Celtic folk + Mideast Maqam folk).

yeah i think part of the reason im still here arguing in favor of metal is that this poll idea still makes me v v angry xpost

several xposts:

awesometapesfromafrica is great, but it's TOO MUCH to keep up with that, and a bit of pain to download each track individually.

plus, it would be awesomes to focus on regional styles rather than scattershot posts.

I love African music but i'm not really sure how to discuss it. There are some phenomenal reissues out now though. Go to a good shop and buy anything on Analog Africa or Soundway.

I am not gonna front; when Kittie popped up in magazines, I was interested in them mostly because they were women and one of them was black, ergo I was pretty certain I wasn't going to encounter anything about white purity smashing the inferior races when I checked them out; I wasn't so certain about Cradle of Filth.

On the flipside, genres I love to death will occasionally flip me someone like Christian Death, who I avoided for years because I thought I'd hear something really shitty and, when I finally encountered them on a genre-defining goth comp, were represented by a song that made me think my wariness/prejudgment was pretty well warranted, and make me seriously rethink entire cornerstones of my musical taste.

both metal and country are waaaaaay down my priority list in terms of music I'm interested in exploring.

sorry to chop up your post but this is key, i think. there's just too much good music out there. any excuse to skip a genre is fine, takes the load off.

i like all these genres and would like to listen to a lot of these albums as i have the time, but for some reason the actual "listening clubs" on "ilm" seem super gay.

(I think I've also told the story about how I saw old picture of Siouxsie rocking Nazi paraphernalia that made me consciously avoid anything they released earlier than Tinderbox that didn't involve Robert Smith, which actually made me miss out on some actual life-changing awesomeness up until, like, 9 years ago?)

you are a sensitive flower and there is nothing wrong with that. i'm with you all the way. i avoid polka cuzza the leiderhosen.

(And also I won't buy anything by Morrissey after his early solo career shenanigans. This is just a general dealbreaker for me and it's unfortunate that it kind of spills over into a lot of what is tied up in the word "metal", but there we are.)

sorry, lederhosen.

sadly rap has more or less devolved into this over time.

― the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, May 5, 2010 4:32 PM Bookmark

o rly?

do you have to do extensive research on an artist before you buy a record? seems like it would take a lot of time.

man if u let that bait u, its ur own damn fault

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like, robert smith's grandfather might have done horrible things during the boer war or something.

hey man, I used to love H.E.R.

(song sucks btw, fuck Common)

dan, i appreciate what you're saying but have you ever heard Wolves In The Throne Room or Orphaned Land? They're like the anti-burzum

Hey Scott, I know that cheerful irreverence that skirts the line with being a total fucking dick is your thing but would you mind not doing that to me? TIA

I've listened to and liked Emperor, Opeth and Therion; I've mentioned this on ILM before.

Oh shit. Things just got personal.

I'll leave Mordy to explain the philosophies and stuff behind Wolves In The Throne Room and Orphaned Land because he has a better way with words than I have. But they're like the polar opposite of Burzum or NSBM and not in a cack-handed RATM way (who are also "metal")

"Hey Scott, I know that cheerful irreverence that skirts the line with being a total fucking dick is your thing but would you mind not doing that to me?"

okay, dan, no problem! sorry. i'll steer clear of you. you and matos. that's actually not that bad a list considering i've been here for eight years.

aw what happened with you and matos? two of my ilm faves. :(

hey guys another new club to join! KRAUTROCK Listening Klub! - Week One : 5-11 May

It's not "steer clear" as much as it is "read the situation and don't make glib jokes that aren't going to go over well".

I mean I don't know what response you thought "haha you're so sensitive, lol @ u" was going to evoke given the shit I've been talking about here but it's kind of a no-brainer that it wasn't going to be positive.

you're right. i apologize.

i used to love her is fucking awesome even if common is now a dickhead.

sam you want in krautrock klub?

oh lol, sorry: apology accepted! I got distracted because I realized I'd brought a 12-pack home and forgotten to put it away

Bookmarked but fucking hell these are getting a bit too much.

It should be noted that Emperor's Ihsahn is a big Nietzsche fan. He's stated that he doesn't hold truck with the Nazi thing, but it does make your criteria a little shaky. My problem with your argument is that it's based entirely on external factors. If you don't like how metal sounds, that's fine, and a totally legitimate reason not to explore it. But to dislike the entire genre because a few fringe personalities have troubling beliefs is some high-level BS. And I understand the life experience part of it, but eventually you have to get over it. I mean, I hated the jackasses in high school who loved Phish and other jam bands, but as it turns out, 10 years later, I discovered that The Grateful Dead aren't all that bad. It sounds like your experience was worse, but seriously -- time to move on.

Dan, you should read up on Wolves In The Throne Room and Orphaned Land. Also jj likes metal so I cant see why you hate metal through bad experiences when your best mate is into metal and is nothing like those guys, not to mention the ilx metal fans who are not like them either.

LOL, for a good long while I was a big Nietzsche fan! It really bothered the ppl in my college German class.

pfunk, you didn't know the other kids we went to high school with. When jj says he knows where I'm coming from, it's because he also grew up where I did.

I want to reiterate (or possibly baldly state something that I might have let lie as implication) that this is all basically me saying why the metal listening room is the least appealing to me as opposed to an all-out shunning of METAL. I don't go out of my way to seek it, but I don't run away from it when it's presented to me. I still manage to live a happy life.

i think part of the problem here (which i totally accept) is that metal largely wears its "extremity" on its sleeve, so yer going to get a lot of douchey peeps out there that glom on to the bullshit aspects of over the top thematic stuff, and some of that ends up being problematic - ie the swastika sousxie stuff within early punk, boyd rice industrial, virulent mysogynistic rap, etc that happens in any genre that takes some of its motivation from being outside the norm. i mean shit, the imagery on a lot of zorn stuff is completely o_O, and thats sophisticated jazzbo stuff.

pfunk, you didn't know the other kids we went to high school with. When jj says he knows where I'm coming from, it's because he also grew up where I did.

yeah I realise that.

do you have to do extensive research on an artist before you buy a record? seems like it would take a lot of time.

sadly, i do this. it does take a lot of time -- too much, i think.

(btw my parallel wrt to this and growing up where we did is my inability to give southern rock a moment of my time, because that is way more rooted in associated racism for me than metal.)

ie the swastika sousxie stuff within early punk, boyd rice industrial, virulent mysogynistic rap,

but dan listens to industrial and rap but doesn't dismiss it like he does with metal! He knows it isn't all like that, so he should know it's the same with metal.

I DO KNOW THAT. How many times do I have to preface my statements with "I know this is unreasonable and unfair"?

right, and i know that he does, but there isnt the personal association there - i mean we def didnt know any copenhagen hat wearing boyd rice fans in HS

xpost

my inability to give southern rock a moment of my time, because that is way more rooted in associated racism for me than metal.

I dont care for southern rock because pretty much the stuff I've heard I just do not like. Being Scottish i dont really know the racism that goes with it because I've never met any americans from the south who are into it/like that.
Prob the same way as dan doesnt hate happy hardcore because of a lot of the knobs in Scotland who love it.

i mean i just finally listened to led zeppelin for the first time (uh non-osmosiswise) in the past few years because of the shit people we grew up with that dug them - all im saying is that these sorts of associations are hard to shake, and if you dont feel like shaking them, well, thats fine really.

I dont really know much about Boyd Rice but I did always avoid Death In June because I wasn't sure about the whole thing, so I guess I was ignorant over that.

lol basically the gateway for both of us into industrial music was the dance charts in Rolling Stone combined with a mixtape made for me by one of my brother's college friends; Death In June wasn't anywhere near the radar and by the time I found out about that stuff I was like 20.

in a similar vein i really used to like some m0mu5 records until the recent point on ilx where he showed clearly that he was a giant insensitive cock, and all the cajoling in the world isnt going to make me run out and buy or listen to whatever shit hes shoveling out at this point.

xpost boyd took the playful naziism card to a pretty full extent, and performance art or no, not feeling too good about the dude (although he def has circulated in my beloved NWW/Current 93 sphere quite a bit and i dont begrudge them that).

so he isnt a neo nazi then?

(xp) you were always way more into NWW/Current 93 than I was; maybe in my DNA I just knew

how do people not like prog rock? lets take one album King Crimson - Red for instance

I suggested 3 albums to a work buddy who never heard any progrock. Red, Lark's, and Close to the Edge

granted that I don't care to join any fucking listening club
except maybe a 'ilxor's make mixes of their fav songs' listening club

Aren't you guys from Minneapolis?? Is/was it way nastier than I always imagined it to be?

(Sorry if that came off as insensitive. Was actually wondering but it's not my business or anything.)

nah we met in a small town with fairly rural roots in southern MN, so uh like any other rural midwestern town really. bigots and unfamiliarity and such

Yeah, we were 45 min from downtown St Paul from our parents' houses, but that meant out in the middle of the woods with gravel roads and cow/sheep/bison farmers. The town/suburb where we went to high school was such that people were afraid of going into the Twin Cities because of "all the crime" (this was around the time that there were something like 10 murders a year across both Minneapolis and St Paul).

gah I should finish my thoughts before hitting send:

In most cases, "all the crime" was code for "more than 10 non-white people".

sounds nasty

and yet, I also met some of the best people in the world there

lol @ the idea that "reading about wolves in the throne room" is suddenly going to make dan interested in metal

that wasn't the idea, it was to show him that not all black metal bands have the same philosophies as varg vikernes.

he knows

Not in any of these clubs, but more power to them. Nevertheless, somebody should fix Wayne Shorter's name in the title of the Jazz one.

lol hadn't noticed that

In most cases, "all the crime" was code for "more than 10 non-white people".

― it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Thursday, May 6, 2010 5:52 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Gaaaaaaah. I hate this kind of coded speech so much.

is funk club best by default then?

Aren't you guys from Minneapolis?? Is/was it way nastier than I always imagined it to be?

― Sundar, Thursday, May 6, 2010 3:25 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i live in minneapolis, south, and i think it's on the whole a pretty nice and safe city...there definitely is crime...though sadly i bet about 80 percent of all the murders happen in a 20 square block region in north minneapolis, which is totally dysfunctional and depressing (though there are nice pockets in north even)

Guys, for future reference, ahmagonna change these thread titles to Rolling X Listening club. Or you can start new threads.

― i never promised you a whinegarten (forksclovetofu),

The ILX Mods it would seem want us to start a new thread each week for the club rather than having to update all thread titles.

Now if you don't have a thread title with the new choices, people simply don't click on the thread and there will be less discussion. They need to know its updated.
So should we have a new thread each week for each listening club?

i promise i wont click either way