Let's discuss Rick Ross' "Teflon Don"

"MC Hammer" blew my mind last night.

i'm about to listen to this album, i predict that i will like it a lot

i feel like the relative critical love of his last album was one wave too early, and this album is getting rightful praise

the biggest asset in this album's favor is it's run time -- 'deeper than rap' was waaayyy too long

also had too many tracks about chicks

'teflon don' will get 10x better if you replace "super high" with the remix

should i cut-and-paste my 50-post Rick Ross tirade from twitter?

pretty good album, Albert Anastacia EP is better to me though ("Knife Fight"! "Gotti Family!" "White Sand".. that shit is crazy)... don't really like "Maybach Music 3," the first one is still the best one, "I'm Not A Star", "Tears of Joy" and "Aston Martin Music" are the best tracks on this one (besides "BMF"), "Audio Meth" with Raekwon and "Mafia Music 2" should've been on the album...

yes you should @somedude

Only the bits that will inspire Terius-thread-worthy ire, some dude.

"Audio Meth" with Raekwon and "Mafia Music 2" should've been on the album...

yes

i feel like him releasing a "mafia music" that's better than any song on the actual album should be a ross tradition

Even tho I basically like him now, it still mystifies me that he has become one of the biggest rap stars.

I love how this album is at once lush yet spare.

"Mafia Music" was on Deeper Than Rap, wasn't it?

it still mystifies me that he has become one of the biggest rap stars

Dude's got charisma -- he's a dirtier, funnier Heavy D.

he really blacked out on the third verse of "I'm Not A Star," though... for real.

Best Jay-Z verse in a long time.

The song with Raphael Saadiq is terrible, mostly for Saadiq's contributions.

The one with the call-and-response harmony? It's cute.

ha, i think the intro of my 'trilla' review is apropos here (excuse the sloppy prose)

Rick Ross, though you may not be aware of it, is one of the most successful rappers in music right now. That said, he’s an odd case. Unlike with Jay-Z, Kanye West or T.I., you won’t see any of Ross’ albums appearing on a year-end list on this website, in Rolling Stone or probably even XXL. And unlike 50 Cent, another hugely popular but critically reviled rapper, Ross has neither a unanimously acclaimed album nor single in his past. Yet, Trilla, his second album, sold 198,000 copies in its first week out, despite the fact that the album’s big lead single peaked on the Billboard Hot 100 at #87, and that his face showed up on as many magazine covers as mine did.

Not only does all this make Ross a confounding presence, but also a pretty important one. If middle-schoolers aren’t buying Ross’ albums with their birthday money—and all indications are that they aren’t—than who exactly is vaulting this dude over chart mainstays like Snoop Dogg and the Now collection? The answer has to be rap fans, meaning Rick Ross—the rapper who will forever remain infamous for rhyming “Atlantic” with “Atlantic”—is galvanizing rap’s core fan base like only its most visible pop stars can. Common and UGK, two rap acts whose last albums also went #1 despite minimal pop crossover, share peer boosterism with Ross, but they’ve been around. Their number ones felt owed to them. Ross on the other hand, hasn’t influenced a whole generation of successful rappers (and even though I like Trilla, and him in general, I hope he never does).

Jay's "Light Up" verse >>>>> his "free mason" verse IMO.

"Mafia Music" was on Deeper Than Rap, wasn't it?

― ksh is my clone (The Reverend), Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:41 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

maybe it was a "bonus track"

i think it was cool that ross developed that super luxurious, expensive sounding... sound on 'deeper than rap' but lex luger's crunk revivalism really agrees with him

yeah Ross' success still kind of confuses me a bit, "BMF" being the biggest street record out right now is kind of baffling tgiven the whole c.o. thing... but I guess if the music's good..

Jay's "Light Up" verse >>>>> his "free mason" verse IMO.

― The Brainwasher, Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:43 PM (25 seconds ago) Bookmark

Both are great, but his more agile flow is back on "Free Mason," which I miss from Jay. But "Light Up" probably has more memorable lines.

I have a feeling Lex Luger is going keep recycling the same beat, but I kind of like everything I've heard by him so far... he did this new Fab song that's kind of dope

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=tOxjY-scrpM

His flow on "Free Mason" is great but the verses are meh.

Wasn't "Mafia Music" the first track on Deeper Than Rap?? Or are you talking another remix?

xxpost

"Mafia Music" was the opening track!

alright my bad

the thing about BMF is that the "I THINK I'M BIG MEECH" part is an awesome hook that's fun to shout/make fun of/parody

the audacity of it in the context of his past adds an extra layer of awesomeness

it's the big day, y'all! can't wait to not buy Rick Ross's album and avoid his music as much as possible! Tuesday, July 20, 2010 9:21:38 AM via web

bout to not get in the car and not go to the record store to not cop that Teflon Don! let's go!! Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:13:32 AM via web

I'm about to not take the wrapper off the Ross CD and not bang that shit all day! can't wait to listen to Gucci and T.I. and Jeezy instead! Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:20:45 AM via web

support southern hip hop, y'all! it's not like anyone from Outkast just dropped a dope album! Rick Ross is your only choice! BAWSE! Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:22:51 AM via web

I'll always remember the day I bought Carter 2, King, Underground Kingz, The Recession...and the day I didn't buy Teflon Don Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:26:39 AM via web

go buy Teflon Don! it's 2 tracks shorter than the 'EP' Rick Ross released for free 2 months ago, so you're getting your money's worth! Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:29:07 AM via web

everybody support Rick Ross today! he's rich, well fed, and not very talented, so he deserves your money! Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:31:22 AM via web

I think I'm Rick Ross...I've never sold drugs and I'm not good at rapping. hey, maybe I AM Rick Ross! Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:36:04 AM via web

Teflon Don, y'all! I haven't been this excited to not buy an album since Thank Me Later! Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:37:31 AM via web

the illest rapper in 2010 has a beard, a bald head and a gut...you know who I'm talking about! what's up, Freeway! Stimulus Package out now! Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:45:34 AM via web

man I had so much fun not listening to Teflon Don this morning, I'm gonna not put it on repeat and bump that shit all day! Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:46:24 AM via web

enough jokes, y'all, I am going to guy buy Teflon Don today...I need a new drink coaster Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:10:37 AM via web

decided to buy TEN copies of Teflon Don...gonna tape 'em together, use it as a doorstop. and take the discs out... play frisbee with my son Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:16:57 AM via web

just got back from the beach...it's official! Not Rick Ross is the pefect summer soundtrack! Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:15:28 PM via web

everyone I saw today at the beach was not listening to Rick Ross, it was like we were all part of the same special club, great feeling. Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:16:41 PM via web

ALL I DO IS SCREAM SCREAM SCREAM NO MATTER WHAT, ACT LIKE I LOST MY MIND EVEN IF THE SONG SUCKS Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:54:12 PM via web

AND WHEN I STEP UP IN THE BUILDING, EVERYBODY TURNS THEIR BACK.......................................................................... Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:54:35 PM via web

..............................................................................................................AND THEY STAY THERE Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:55:08 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss dropped a classic verse everyone kept quoting on that DJ Khaled record? ...wait that was Lil Wayne Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:56:34 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss singlehandedly made Slip N Slide Records a brand name? ...wait that was Trick Daddy Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:57:44 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss made trap music popular and changed the sound of southern rap? ...wait that was T.I. Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:58:52 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss put Miami on the map? ...wait that was Luke Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:59:11 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss did R&B songs so ill that he made women love his fat boy swag? ...wait that was Biggie Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:00:42 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss made Def Jam start seriously promoting southern rappers? ...wait that was Luda Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:01:51 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss lived an infamous life of crime? ...wait that was Freeway Ricky Ross Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:02:31 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss made just calling himself "the boss" seem like a fly nickname? ...wait that was Slim Thug Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:33:04 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss told us the truth about his life? ...wait that was The Smoking Gun Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:33:21 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss made Maybachs and cigars and expensive suits cool in hip hop? ...wait that was Jay-Z Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:40:26 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss had the nicest titties in Miami rap? ...wait that was Trina Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:07:12 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss made a hundred cheesy R&B singles but you kinda grudgingly respected how he pulled it off? ...wait that was Plies Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:08:14 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss bagged Foxy Brown in her prime? ...wait that was Jay-Z Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:19:07 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss kept his fat ass relevant by getting on every DJ Khaled record next to bigger stars? ...wait that was Fat Joe AND Ross Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:22:45 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss wasn't getting any shine but dropped dope guest verses on every Slip-N-Slide album? ...wait that was Duece Poppi Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:23:25 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss had the best verse on a Rick Ross song? ...wait that was Jay-Z/Lil Wayne/Young Jeezy/T.I./Kanye/Gucci Mane/etc. Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:42:54 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss made wearing sunglasses bigger than your face cool? ...wait that was probably some other Miami douchebag Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:28:33 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss stepped his game up after weak early records to be one of the best rappers in the south? ...wait that was Gucci Mane Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:45:26 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss wrote a memorable hook for a Rick Ross single? ...wait that was T-Pain/Ne-Yo/Avery Storm/John Legend/R. Kelly/etc. Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:46:56 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss picked a bunch of great beats and guests for Rick Ross's albums? ...wait that was Def Jam's A&R department Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:51:17 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss made that 50 Cent/Ross beef really hilarious and entertaining? ...wait that was 50 Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:54:10 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss said "crab meats"? ...yeah that was him. Tuesday, July 20, 2010 5:07:30 PM via web

apparently God doesn't have any influence at Def Jam RT @ezewriter God Hates whack rappers. Tuesday, July 20, 2010 5:48:38 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss rapped with incredible breath control for a man of his considerable girth? ...wait that was Big Pun. Tuesday, July 20, 2010 5:49:46 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss brought smiles to the faces of the world's children with his bushy beard and big belly? ...wait that was Santa Tuesday, July 20, 2010 5:51:31 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss made the song that gets stuck in everyone's head at the mere mention of Miami? ...wait that was Will Smith Tuesday, July 20, 2010 7:43:08 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss ensured that any future victory for Miami will be a hollow one? ...wait that was Lebron AND Rick Tuesday, July 20, 2010 7:43:41 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss provided you with actual entertainment on the release date of his 4th album? wait that was me. Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:32:58 PM via web

what a constant source of lols that was

fire

dom's was freaking hilarious too

#rememberwhenRickRoss was the most respected correctional officer out there?... wait that was Edie Falco's character in Oz.
2:09 PM Jul 20th via web

that was very funny, must admit. would read again.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA those Tweets are fucking gold. I'm dying here. hahahahaha

listening on headphones, "live fast, die young" is kind of a mess of a production -- not sure that vocal sample really fits with the orchestral feel of the rest of the thing

who produced that song on the drake album that also bit that "no games" riddim a la "live fast, die young"

diddy's verse on this is so hilarious

first of all, bragging about being the first person to write a check for haiti is incredibly crass even by rap standards

also is there any more of a transparent way to show that rick ross ghostwrote a verse for you than by rhyming "maryland" and "marilyn"

'teflon don' will get 10x better if you replace "super high" with the remix

― ASBO slice (J0rdan S.), Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

this is my most otm post on ilx

yeah "live fast die young" is crap. it feels stuffed into the album, kind of the only thing in it that does but i guess it woudn't be a rick ross album without that

"tears of joy" makes that song totally unnecessary

also is there any more of a transparent way to show that rick ross ghostwrote a verse for you than by rhyming "maryland" and "marilyn"

― ASBO slice (J0rdan S.), Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:55 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

Totally. The moment Diddy starting rapping I KNEW Ricky wrote that verse for him.

who produced that song on the drake album that also bit that "no games" riddim a la "live fast, die young"

― ASBO slice (J0rdan S.), Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:53 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark

Are you talking about "Show Me a Good Time?" Kanye...

I think the song's alright, but with those vocal samples undernearth it's all too cluttered.

ha, figures

Yeah, they work on the Drake, not here.

nah they were shit on the drake album too

I dunno, they worked with the "scratched" chorus and it's like Kanye's trying to prove he's back-to-the-basics with the nod to the boom-bap, and I think it works. There's enough space on the track for them to be effective.

"aston martin music" is really good

Yep. That should be the closer.

lol it sounds like chrisette is singing "listening to the yeah yeah yeahs"

i should've spoken before this song got all 'thank me later'

shouldn't have**

lol it sounds like chrisette is singing "listening to the yeah yeah yeahs"

― ASBO slice (J0rdan S.), Friday, July 23, 2010 1:16 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

hold on, this is exactly what she is singing

the fuck????????

tell me i'm wrong?

I think Drake adds a ton of pathos to the track, but you know I like Drake doing in situations like these (and in general). At least he didn't get a verse.

can we talk about chrisette michelle singing about listening to the yeah yeah yeahs on this rick ross album instead

Yes, that's what she's singing. And I love how she just like squeezes it in at the very end of her hook.

am i wrong to be dumbfounded by that?

Nah, I didn't even realize it until you pointed it out. Awesome moment.

I can totally picture Rick and Chrisette driving on the highway listening to the YYYs... ok I can't, but that's why it's great.

saadiq sounds almost indistinguishable from ne yo on this track

Ugh. I DON'T WANT CALL-AND-RESPONSE CHORUS WITH RICK SINGING.

And Saadiq's voice sounds all pinched and just rubs me the wrong way. And I think Instant Vintage is a classic.

#rememberwhenRickRoss rapped with incredible breath control for a man of his considerable girth? ...wait that was Big Pun. Tuesday, July 20, 2010 5:49:46 PM via web

#rememberwhenRickRoss brought smiles to the faces of the world's children with his bushy beard and big belly? ...wait that was Santa Tuesday, July 20, 2010 5:51:31 PM via web

loooooooool

to everyone boosting this album - you are stupid

rtc out

hahahaha some dude what is your twitter?

http://twitter.com/alshipley

hahahah listening to the yeah yeah yeahs is classic

the best hook on the album after "b.m.f." is wiz khalifa singing "smokin them pina colada papers baby girl we don't fuck with them bluuuuuuuuuuuuunts/ unless i'm with the boooooooooooosss"

"super high" beat is totally the shit -- for some reason it just pops more on the remix -- i think that dope live base just sounds... warmer in the context of two stoners rapping about getting super high

also "trees gets twisted up like fingers and gang signs" is a super dope image from currensy

also the village voice review of this is great

Pfork did a 180 this morning, after giving low marks to the first two Ross albums and not even bothering with the third:

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14482-teflon-don

have to say, of all the people I'm disappointed in for boosting Ross I'm most disappointed in Cohen, who I can usually count on to take down shit rap albums hilariously

yeah before i opened that review i was expecting a HHNF style takedown

game recognize game tho

And he gave Arcade Fire thumbs up yesterday, which was a bigger surprise.

I love this album but not on Ian's terms.

But more importantly, Ross has proven to be among the last of dying breed. His studio albums feel like events that demand the ears and opinions of rap fans.

this is weirdly true

co-sign everything except that Trilla was dope and the first of his event/zeitgeist/barometer of the American moment albums

it's a 3peat

teflon don > trilla > deeper than rap

neither of the first two felt like an EVENT like 'teflon don' did tho

cuz HE'S BIG MEECH

And he gave Arcade Fire thumbs up yesterday, which was a bigger surprise.

I love this album but not on Ian's terms.

― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 11:56 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

not really, he likes a lot of bedwetter rock, i only read his rap reviews most of the time.

so is this guy like the dave edmunds of rap douchebaggery or something? that review seems to suggest we should be glad he's grown into the '90s or something

"last of a dying breed" just like the blasters!

no i think that would be jeff weiss

but ian's pretty close

"people would rather miss out on new rap royalty than admit this is about as good as mainstream macho rap gets these days"

The beats on this are so diirrrrrrrty <3 x 1000000

I think one thing ppl are missing in the race to be "OMG HES MC HAMMER MEECH LOL FUCKK HAHAH" is that a lot of his flows actually kind of sound like "Lets Get It Started"/"Ring Em" hammer circa 1988

teflon don > trilla > deeper than rap

neither of the first two felt like an EVENT like 'teflon don' did tho

― righteous lecoq (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 11:08 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

deeper than rap is way better than the other two! and was way more of an EVENT too, when that first joint dropped where hes all 'whistling at wendy williams' or whatever thats when everyone was all "whoa...dude can rap." This record doesnt feel like much of an EVENT at all in comparison

Pfork did a 180 this morning, after giving low marks to the first two Ross albums and not even bothering with the third:

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14482-teflon-don

― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 8:27 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

dude. why do ppl still say this?? pitchfork is not a person

New board description

If kanye is gonna go all Rick Rubin with his new shit, I'm all for it

deeper than rap is way better than the other two! and was way more of an EVENT too, when that first joint dropped where hes all 'whistling at wendy williams' or whatever thats when everyone was all "whoa...dude can rap." This record doesnt feel like much of an EVENT at all in comparison

― blap...tremendo (deej), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 01:11 (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah i didnt wanna bat for it what with viewing from a distance but that's how the event status seemed to me too

agree about deeper than rap anyways

although its not like dtr is a great record ether so whatevs

so what is it then?

average - all of ross' albums are shades of average

its an inconsistent one for sure. but ... 'yacht club'

I like Deeper Than Rap better than Teflon Don. I feel like the new one is too ambitious. Peter Principle in action, kinda; on DTR he got as good as he's ever gonna be and had exactly the kind of lush yacht-rap beats he needs. Only "Super High" really maintains that level of lushness.

dude. why do ppl still say this?? pitchfork is not a person

Thanks, I know, it's called paraphrasing. You sound like the guy from PitchforkReviewsReviews.

except the purpose of yr post was to make a point as if it was the same person

Oh for fuck's sake let's not get into this again, I KNOW THE REVIEWS ARE WRITTEN BY DIFF AUTHORS

i heard what i presume to be teflon don booming from someone's car today and it sounded awesome which reminds me i need to hear teflon don

if anything, 'deeper than rap' felt like an event record mostly because of his beef with 50

i think the hype surrounding 'teflon don' was borne solely out of the realization that the dude could actually rap

did anyone actually care about his beef w/ fiddy?

rap fans always care about beefs, no matter how inconsequential, cynical or half-hearted

*smh at rap fans*

i heard ________________ booming from someone's car today and it sounded awesome

This actually happens? I hear these people too but no matter what's playing, they generally sound like fucking idiots doing it.

doing what - listening to music? it's rad when you overhear cars blasting songs you love! u crazy

(esp in summer)

you can't sound like an idiot blasting rap music, that's what its for

I though I always feel suuuper awkward for dudes when i hear a car drive by playing a skit

...oreo cookie eatin motherfff...

i think the hype surrounding 'teflon don' was borne solely out of the realization that the dude could actually rap

― righteous lecoq (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, August 4, 2010 3:19 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it wasnt really a 'realization' any more though

he still can't really rap

i'm gonna JFK
like JFK
and my JFK
is a J... EFF KAYYYYYY

looool

I though I always feel suuuper awkward for dudes when i hear a car drive by playing a skit

...oreo cookie eatin motherfff...

Man I wish just once I heard someone blasting the ICP blowjob sketch that summer every car seemed to be playing the Marshall Mathers LP in my hometown.

unnnghhhh give it back to j he was suckin it better

for like a week a had somehow confused Big Meech with Big Lurch and thought that line was infinitely better

catch me in miami, bout fo' girls, toes curl

also missing in discussion is the return of the legit street banger as a semi-crossover hit. when was the last time street track that was rap's song of the summer

all the fluffy prod. and the "out of step with current moment" Robb Report mythologizing ignores the fact that BMF was CRAB MEATS this summer

THAT REVIEW DOESN'T EVEN MENTION "B.M.F."

yeah that is true -- the whole talking about point about ross's extravagant beats is really more pertinent to the last album

teflon don is better in part because there are joints like "mc hammer" an "bmf" and the opener to balance everything out

also missing in discussion is the return of the legit street banger as a semi-crossover hit. when was the last time street track that was rap's song of the summer

Beamer, Benz or Bently?

i wouldn't necessarily call "BMF" at street hit in the sense that it's a rick ross song... there was always some level of built in advantages -- it's certainly not on the same wavelength in that regard as "o let's do it" or "wasted" or any dance snap thing

really i think it served more of a purpose of reminding ross's people that no one really wants to hear him doing shit like "super high" or "magnificent" -- people still want "hustlin" type joints from him (exception being the one w/ nelly that was a hit)

It was "Super High" that sold this for me though.

some1 pls post funny Rick Ross corections officer pic

san te, check the other rick ross thread, there's tons of them

"super high" is really limp to me, the remix is amazing tho

http://www.marclamonthill.com/mlhblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/rickross2.jpg

i think i'm ed meese, j. edgar hoover

yeah Ross is weird, came into the game with a dark anthemic banger, even his T-Pain joint wasn't very R&B, but then suddenly he decides every song needs some soft hands soul singer on the hook.

Not to take anything away from him, because he's put out some very good albums, but how much of Rick Ross' appeal is that he's filling the void left behind by Biggie? It's a comparison Ross seems to court more aggressively than ever on Teflon Don, which is peppered with Biggie references.

not that weird a progression really

xpost

but how much of Rick Ross' appeal is that he's filling the void left behind by Biggie?

like zero percent?

He fills the Biggie void cuz he's fat, black, and a hedonist?

I hear only the most superficial of similarities.

pretty sure voids get filled quicker than a decade

People desperately needing to fill the Biggie void definitely accounts for the wild commercial success of Shyne and Guerilla Black

but how much of Rick Ross' appeal is that he's filling the void left behind by Biggie?

this is only true for diddy

sonically speaking i can see how the "maybach music" type beats harken back to that super expensive, glitzy 'life after death', but in any other sense, no

It's not just a physical comparison; though. His halting, booming flow seems to get more Biggie-esque with each album, and he (and his guests) make several explicit references to Biggie on Teflon Don. It seems to be a comparison that he actively courts.

well of course HE does, but that doesn't make it right

he's also an ex-corrections officer turned major label rapper who is actively courting a comparison to one of the most notorious cocaine dealers in recent history, so you know...

rick ross is a stand-in for major label success rap for sure

halting, booming post

is Kanye West filling baseball's void after Barry Bonds retired?

lol xp

as much as i like smooth upscale r&b-club rossss, mixing it up some punch-in-the-balls crunk shit really makes this album

xactly

i posted this same thing on the jukebox, but i reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally want a hbcu band to do "BMF" at a football game this year... shit would be sooo epic, with those synths as triumphant horn blasts, and a dude pounding that big circular drum & tons of dudes hacking at cymbals

i can't stop thinking about this

my neighbor has had "free mason" on repeat for the last 3 days and he really passionately shouts lines along with the record, but not especially important or triumphant lines, just whichever ones he happens to be ready for

".............NOT THAT I'M A MASON!!!!"

i love it

feel like I'm late to the party on this one. I avoided it for a while cuz his guest verses on albums I owned never wowed me.

This album hasn't like made me outright jizz my pants or anything but I'm liking it. lyrics aren't amazing but the beats are pretty awesome, he has good guests, and I like his delivery. I'll definitely play this one though I can see how some might not like this dude.

really the only reason I took the chance now is cuz I got a $100 gift card from work for a recent achievement....

I got a $100 gift card from work for a recent achievement....

Admitting you might like a Rick Ross album?

i got a $100 from some random person for being the biggest boss they had seen thus far once

haha shit if that's all it took to get gift cards I'd be Rick Ross' fluffer....

BITCH I'M MC HAMMER. I'M ABOUT CREAM.

Keep hearing: I think I'm big Nietzche.

I'm Baruch Spinoza.

in a Testarossa

i'm gonna JFK
like JFK
and my JFK
is a J... EFF KAYYYYYY

― I think I'm Princess Peach... King Koopa (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, August 4, 2010 8:23 AM (3 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i think about this now every time i hear Ross rap

especially during that DIRTY...CLEAN...DIRTY...CLEAN verse

dude i just read that twitter rant for the first time now and....thank you

the santa one killed me

Keep hearing: I think I'm big Nietzche.

― Tim F, Thursday, November 18, 2010 7:01 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

somehow this is a post v much in character, i think

in an eyerolly way, yeah.

I think I'm Big Bird
Harold Hooper

Hey so I wrote this big article on Rick Ross for The Straddler. It's a literary magazine, so I'm afraid that music people aren't going to find it if I don't self-promote at least a little, so please forgive if I'm doing something inappropriate by putting a link up. Please enjoy.

http://www.thestraddler.com/20117/piece10.php

um what the fuck

Rick Ross is unconscious and paramedics are desperately trying to resuscitate him.

Rick was on a flight going from Ft. Lauderdale to Memphis today, when the rapper lost consciousness. The plane was forced to make an emergency landing.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/10/14/rick-ross-passed-out-plane-emergency-landing/#.Tph0AbK-3oo

this is not happening

Wale Wale Folarin

I just talked to Ross...he's 100 pct ok...@tmz #dontpanic #dontpanic #mmg !!!! #gfid dec 13th!

i just talked to ross, he was unconscious and i know you all are in a panic over the possibility of him dying, but his album comes out dec 13.

jeez, get better soon bawse

LOSE SOME WEIGHT, MANE

i was wondering when i'd see the first weight reference!

i'm not even joking, if he wants to live past the age of 50 he should prob lose some weight

I forgot I created this thread.

@rocmarci roc marciano
Rozay brother slow the blunts down and eat better and take a break u on top so just chill n enjoy the fruits
11 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone

no, literally enjoy the fruits

awww enjoy the fruits is a nice sentiment

http://www.covershut.com/covers/UMCs-Fruits-Of-Nature-Front-Cover-31220.jpg

i'm pretty sure ross can still enjoy the fruits of his labor without having his house stocked with

rations that could last six months. One is entirely stocked with Ortega taco fixings, another with cans of Manwich, another with six-packs of Yoo-hoo, another with bags of Halloween-size candy

what the fuck is yoo-hoo?

Everything in that menagerie is literally inedible.

what the fuck is MANWICH?

i mean whaty i think of as a manwich doesn't...come in a can

or without coming home at 4 am from the strip so he can eat this

The Gentlest Bodyguard's specialty (besides appearing to be gentle while not minding if he has to rip people's tracheae out, I bet) is breakfast, and when we're back at the house, he goes to the stove. Into a large frying pan he cracks twenty-four eggs and waits for them to cook, then meticulously flips each one without breaking a yolk. In a pot the grits bubble. And in a large skillet, several cans of bubble-gum-pink Hormel corned-beef hash sizzle on high heat, never changing color

lex, yoo-hoo is chocolate milk

be clear: it's CARBONATED chocolate milk.

manwich is like... a canned sloppy joe? idk, i assume it's incredibly disgusting

xp lol is that right? i don't drink choco milk so i wouldn't know

ok fine I love corned beef hash.

CARBONATED CHOCOLATE MILK?????

any meat that comes in a can should not be eaten

welcome to America lex...

several cans of bubble-gum-pink Hormel corned-beef hash sizzle on high heat, never changing color

urgh

i still haven't recovered from the fruit loops discovery. you americans are disgusting savages. i'm clutching on to my muesli for dear life

what the fuck is this abomination

http://pinchmysalt.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/img_8056.jpg

THAT THING LIVED IN A CAN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtuTEvNNlBE

wait, i still don't get what's wrong with froot loops

The fourth photo that came up after a Google search:

http://buckarooblues.com/images/11_9-10_01/manwich.jpg

can we start labeling the manwich photos as NSFW, thx y'all

NSFHumanity

yoo hoo is not carbonated fyi

be clear: it's CARBONATED chocolate milk.

― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

Nope. Most google sites say it's not carbonated but its not just chocolate milk either

Tried to find a YouTube of Morgan Freeman drinking it in Street Smart.

just chill n enjoy the froot loops

http://www.music-software-reviews.com/image-files/fruity_loops_fl_studio_6.jpg

wait, i still don't get what's wrong with froot loops

um start with the colours?

yeah those colors are totally horrifying when not worn by nicki minaj

Yoo-hoo is an American chocolate beverage. Technically, it is a dairy drink, but it contains very little actual milk. The stated ingredients on the label include water, high-fructose corn syrup, dairy whey, sugar, corn syrup solids, cocoa, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, sodium caseinate (from milk), non-fat dry milk, salt, tricalcium phosphate, dipotassium phosphate, xanthan gum, guar gum, natural and artificial flavors, soy lecithin, mono- and diglycerides, vitamin A palmiate, niacinamide (vitamin B3), vitamin D3, and riboflavoin (vitamin B2).

nicki minaj is not a thing i am meant to put in my mouth

yr daily dose of corn syrup solids

can't believe anyone thought YOO-HOO would work as the name of a drink

you're forgetting

http://i.imgur.com/qTveH.gif

yoo hoo is delicious fyi

get yoo hoo-drunk and listen to teflon don

jesus http://www.tmz.com/2011/10/14/rick-ross-second-seizure/#.TpjNp5xZhyQ

what in the fuck

this sucks

obv don't know if these seizures are directly related to his 'lifestyle' but when i read that GQ article i was kind of O_o

Figured it was a matter of time but I gave him a few more years

Important reminder that these dudes aren't cartoons but real ppl too I suppose

important reminder to themselves

haha seriously, i feel like ross must've had a moment today like "i'm...mortal? nahhhhhh"

guys being fat doesn't cause seizures

i'm sure that it doesn't help

i know nothing about rick ross, but when i heard two seizures in a day, i thought maybe he's got epilepsy? sometimes it shows itself later in a person's life, iirc.

Seizures can happen as a result of tumors, impaired oxygen to the brain, hanging out with Wayne -- lotsa things.

being fat itself doesnt 'cause' anything but like seizures it can be a symptom of unhealthy living, im sure theres some study that links exercise to a lack of health probblems for example

well i guess thats kind of untrue, being fat can cause things too, but thats not a helpful way to look at it

lex, yoo-hoo is chocolate milk

― J0rdan S., Friday, October 14, 2011 6:27 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

be clear: it's CARBONATED chocolate milk.

― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, October 14, 2011 6:27 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

this is a horrible fucking lie on yoo hoo

fuck this world

cocaine related? not sayin just sayin

wouldn't be out of the question... he is a famous person

he is a famous person with an invincible persona who constantly raps about cocaine over expansive, triumphalist music

lol

every day i'm snufflin

he raps about selling it, not using

not that im saying he doesnt use it

just realized he is the dad from Family Matters in a tracksuit and sunglasses

or uncle phil! or al roker!!!!! lawl

nah Roker never rocked a beard

ah shit I didn't mean Family Matters I meant Fresh Prince of Bel Air

um yeah Uncle Phil

._.

no wait shakey i got it! he's cedric the entertainer! kenan thompson!

rmde

Grimace (both the mcdonald's mascot and my reaction to posts above)

http://p.twimg.com/AdCsL9oCEAEiRAG.jpg

BIG MEECH

omg

tremendous!

now there's an artist I'd love to commission work from

#rememberwhenRickRoss was the most respected correctional officer out there?... wait that was Edie Falco's character in Oz.
2:09 PM Jul 20th via web

― ASBO slice (J0rdan S.), Friday, July 23, 2010 12:09 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark

omg!

heard you liked rick ross pumpkin faces so we hanged a rick ross pumpkin face from your rick ross pumpkin face

http://s7.postimage.org/kh77uh02z/BUTTERFLY.jpg

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/album-reviews/id.1824/title.rick-ross-rich-forever-mixtape-review

pretty worthless website, normally just ignore but I got a great laugh out of

"His lyrical dexterity comes to screeching halt on Yella Diamonds when every one of his bars ends with the same noun."

lol at dude who has never heard of internal rhyming.

"the same noun"

the great thing about that is that in the clean version it becomes an end-rhyme

"aston martin music" is really good

― ASBO slice (J0rdan S.), Friday, July 23, 2010 1:14 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

cannot be said enough

it would be one of my favorite rick ross songs if you edited it down to just the rick ross parts. as is, fuck it.

Ha, I easily prefer the epic extended version with Drake feeling like all four members of Color Me Badd. Also, why would you want to cut Chrisette?

even the drake parts are good on aston martin music. that's how good it is.

"too doo what I had too doo" and "as...ton...mar...tin...myoo...zeek" are shitty hooks imo

"Aston Martin Music" makes me kinda get, so briefly, what other people see in Drake. Every note he sings comes as a surprise, I suspect to himself more than anyone else.

yeah he def sounds like he's making it up as he goes along

it's 2015 and this album still sounds great

the whole thing is excellent but MC Hammer -> BMF -> Aston Martin Music is my favorite part

Yeah this is all time for me, too. One of those rare records where the monster singles are perfectly balanced with the album cuts

What's the consensus on dude's post-peak music, Mastermind / Black Market? I dig the beats on Black Market a lot, no "B.M.F."-like material but I honestly don't care about that sound. Also it's the only reason I know Scott Storch and JR Rotem still exist, I forgot that Rotem in particular is probably the hackiest producer ever but the Mariah Carey remake is good

also is dude Nas's favorite new-school rapper or something (relatively-speaking,) he seems to collaborate with him a decent amount

He's the only current rapper I listen to. I think Mastermind is great, don't love Black Dollar/Black Market as much but they're solid albums.

Mastermind had a couple tracks that are among my favorite songs of the last few years.

War Ready
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax9YLJ8Wt5Q

Blk & Wht
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI86g6eQOfs

I like "War Ready" but find the end of it kinda unnerving. As far as Black Dollar/Market, not sure why "Money Dance" is >7 minutes but it's cool cuz that's a great vibe-out beat

Still don't care about dude's rapping with a couple exceptions I can think of ("Foreclosures,") but it doesn't get in the way for me, idk how much of it is just thinking dude doesn't have the greatest voice for rap -- I definitely prefer Nas's verse on "One of Us" for instance but it's not like they're flowing all that different.

I didn't even realize him & Jeezy dropped albums at the end of last year for a bit

hard to listen to any of his later stuff imo

nothing off Mastermind appeals?

it was interesting while it was on

I haven't heard this album in years but I suspect I'll still love it.

teflon don is classic. pretty much everything around this era was

I can't imagine reaching for any Rick Ross album other than Teflon Don or Rich Forever, but Mastermind was interesting because, along with all of Ross's Harry Fraud and Nas collabs, it revealed what a traditionalist the guy is. Made it really easy to imagine a scenario where he spends the rest of his career just playing to the "real rap" crowd, releasing solid but unexciting LPs that never change much kinda like Wu-Tang and Boot Camp and all those old New York types do.

Kinda a funny turn for a guy who began his career so reviled by traditionalists.

i'd listen to deeper than rap too.

Albert Anastasia

Even the triple c’s has a couple joints

nicki minaj is not a thing i am meant to put in my mouth

― lex pretend, Friday, October 14, 2011 7:54 PM bookmarkflaglink

10 years old today

still awesome btw

started sellin dope, was 2 legit 2 quit

strange choice to put "bmf" and "mc hammer" at the back end of the album. maybe stacking it with "i'm not a star" at the beginning would've been tough peak to descend from

this album is a window back into better days so I spin it a lot

i'm gonna JFK
like JFK
and my JFK
is a J... EFF KAYYYYYY

― I think I'm Princess Peach... King Koopa (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, August 4, 2010 8:23 AM (3 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I STILL hear this in my head when I think of this song almost 13 years later, lmao.

still love this album and inexplicably been bumping it again the last few weeks. feels a little weird blasting BMF in my car in fuckin' 2023 with the world going to hell and falling apart but y'know, whadya gonna do

Sorry to butt in but since this is at the top now, can anyone kindly direct me to the current hip hop thread? I mostly want to work though my cognitive dissonance over some Confederate flag crap Westside Gunn posted — I just should probably just let it go right. This is old news to most hip hop heads.

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lol it sounds like chrisette is singing "listening to the yeah yeah yeahs"

― ASBO slice (J0rdan S.), Friday, July 23, 2010 1:16 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

hold on, this is exactly what she is singing

the fuck????????

― ASBO slice (J0rdan S.), Friday, July 23, 2010 1:18 AM (fourteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

tell me i'm wrong?

― ASBO slice (J0rdan S.), Friday, July 23, 2010 1:18 AM (fourteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

I think Drake adds a ton of pathos to the track, but you know I like Drake doing in situations like these (and in general). At least he didn't get a verse.

― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, July 23, 2010 1:18 AM (fourteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

can we talk about chrisette michelle singing about listening to the yeah yeah yeahs on this rick ross album instead

― ASBO slice (J0rdan S.), Friday, July 23, 2010 1:18 AM (fourteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yes, that's what she's singing. And I love how she just like squeezes it in at the very end of her hook.

― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, July 23, 2010 1:20 AM (fourteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

am i wrong to be dumbfounded by that?

― ASBO slice (J0rdan S.), Friday, July 23, 2010 1:20 AM (fourteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Nah, I didn't even realize it until you pointed it out. Awesome moment.

I can totally picture Rick and Chrisette driving on the highway listening to the YYYs... ok I can't, but that's why it's great.

― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, July 23, 2010 1:21 AM (fourteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

None of the lyrics sites acknowledge the supposed YYYs reference and the only sources that talk about it are an Alex Macpherson article and ILX threads. Either this got massively memory-holed, or it is some Kitty Pryde "Jay-Z said anime!" mishear that we've all humiliated ourselves with

https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2013/sep/24/r-and-b-fantasia-k-michelle-tamar-braxton-soul

Lol it sounds like it goes “listening to the—yeah yeah yeah—Aston Martin Music”

Disagree — there’s an “s” at the end of yeah yeah yeah (s)

I mean, whether she says it or not, its kind of insane that this wasn't even remotely mentioned anywhere considering I remember the days when the internet melted down because Jay-Z saw a Grizzly Bear concert