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apologies in advance for not titling this "would you risk it for a chocolate biscuit". anyway, here is the thread to address an ilx blindspot - post away your love, hates and observations and all things being well we can have a nice ruck about something or other.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 12:47 (fifteen years ago)

i'll start with a easy one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN-MD6yo6yg

labrinth (of tinie tempah 'pass out'and 'frisky' fame) is signed to simon cowell now - perhaps he will be interesting.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 12:51 (fifteen years ago)

here also is the newish one from the already-underrated dotstar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-ei_JcKM34

and yes he did just rhyme promethazine with denim jeans.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 12:57 (fifteen years ago)

*WAFFLE ALERT* one underlying theory of this thread, i would like to think, is assaying the particular uk sensibility at play in what people are sure to point out are nominally generic traits in global 2010 pop; another (more secretly) is to perhaps try to map out the effect of uk funky as an grassroots re-establishment of this sensibility rather than seeing it one-dimensionally as a specific structurally-based strand. and finally, yes, it can just be a place for lex to put sodding 'katy b on a mission' or whatever.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 13:08 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxe7v4Yfcxs

you should all know this, but for the sake of it. croosh track right now obv.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 13:10 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyCEO4k3BXU

video is not helping me think i'm not in my own little world with this stuffz btw.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 13:14 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmF_xN2AKMk

Has this come out yet?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 13:15 (fifteen years ago)

Good idea for a thread by the way, as 'bandwagon' increasingly becomes 'status quo' you'd imagine we'd get increasing amounts of good stuff.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 13:16 (fifteen years ago)

the ongoing roll deep/ill blu symbiosis is interesting - after the success of 'good times' the release of ill blu's mix of this new one ran practically parallel to the release of the original poppier version. not sure i can recall a similar two-pronged attack organized to this level. possible future chart blueprint ahoy?

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 13:21 (fifteen years ago)

schoolboy error from sway there - everyone knows if you're gonna make it in the uk charts you need to get you some crazy sun protectors. tune's bollocks but i like it, good take on the nu-hip-house etc etc

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 13:27 (fifteen years ago)

Not strictly relevant to the thread but you could argue that La Roux did it with In For The Kill and the Skream remix - initially I think the remix was selling more than the original. It's like releasing the street single and the pop single at once.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 13:31 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3_gkDTUxM

this is obv more your str8-up funky on the face of it but the truly, truly brilliant stroke of genius of recasting eastenders killah priest nutjob lucas as pulpit house dictator has guaranteed its brief moment of crossover success.

by the by funkystepz are the clear heirs to sticky (as you can no doubt already hear) and this won't be the last time they crop on on this thread.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 13:33 (fifteen years ago)

OMG.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 13:36 (fifteen years ago)

yeah matt kinda but wasnt that a tiny bit after the fact of the original? - in that sense it's not a new thing at all. but wrt 'green light' they near enough came out at the same time, equally anticipated, on the basis of the success of the previous iteration. obv its a win-win for the pair of them.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 13:38 (fifteen years ago)

true story: i was once told by a bloke early back in the beginnings of funky, that he was out one night and in the midst of your donaeos and crazy cousinz the dj dropped - to a rapturous reception - the theme tune to DESMONDS. i have never retold this tale until now in appreciation for its preciousness.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 13:42 (fifteen years ago)

to this end i have sent umpteen letters to roska begging him to do a refix of the football italia theme but he must not have got round to replying yet.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 13:45 (fifteen years ago)

actually that's a million quid idea i've just given away there isnt it.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 13:47 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3__XM--uqRE

i kinda think of this sample as housey but i'm not sure why. otherwise if it says anything i think it's that the uk still has an appetite for regular light 90sey pop rap - your shelltoe retro element.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 13:58 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3__XM--uqRE

also cf this last year, i suppose

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 13:58 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A62YvdQ_eg

balls! sorry if a mod could replace ta

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 13:59 (fifteen years ago)

true story: i was once told by a bloke early back in the beginnings of funky, that he was out one night and in the midst of your donaeos and crazy cousinz the dj dropped - to a rapturous reception - the theme tune to DESMONDS. i have never retold this tale until now in appreciation for its preciousness.

This I can totally believe, although the only bit of the Desmond's theme I can remember at this moment is the "don't scratch my soca... til the party's over" bit.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 13:59 (fifteen years ago)

mild shade of ll cool j 'doin it' to that enza too

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 14:00 (fifteen years ago)

to an onlooker i'm sure this all looks like "a country likes all kinds of stuff SO WHAT" but i cannot stress - barring a few breakout underground-representative hits - how rock bottom the uk's sense of identity was in years preceding. since as far back as maybe ukg even.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 14:06 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K5ZK2bUETU

see its hiphouse but with proper breakbeats - telling slight difference. this guy has the best name since hard house banton btw.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 14:12 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6IN62TMG_4

repost - redlight division. also see the lame stush-catting 'selecta' by mz bratt.

right, gonna shut up for a bit.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn3yh7T2-8o

I am all about this track at the moment, which given that Wiley has given it away probably means it will never be released. Proper hands-in-the-air second summer of love vibes but also it makes Mz Bratt sound something other than utterly uncharismatic.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

if that track comes out titled loose and not lose then i will kill everyone and everything in sight.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 14:51 (fifteen years ago)

that one reminds me of the bad old desperate days of the uk. filter-disco just doesnt strike me as relevant modern canon now.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 14:53 (fifteen years ago)

and please believe when i say fuck dizzee for 'dirtee disco' i speak as the #1 supporter of tongue n cheek and everything on it without exception.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 14:56 (fifteen years ago)

if that track comes out titled loose and not lose then i will kill everyone and everything in sight.

I.K.R.

why is "dirtee disco" any more egregious than "holiday" or "dance wiv me"?

"love drunk" is good but as with "frisky" suffers from being a bit of a "pass out" retread. i really hated aggro santos's debut single with one of the non-scherzinger pussycat dolls that his PR bugged me about endlessly. surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE8P3iCcrIc

love how this thread has so far studiously avoided dubstep even though it's magnetic man in the actual top 10 this week. i'd like to see funkystepz or ill blu do that. (not being sarky, i really would.)

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

(i don't actually love "i need air" that much, i don't find dubstep beats exciting in and of themselves, and autotuned angela hunte doesn't elevate them in the same way that katy b does.)

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 15:02 (fifteen years ago)

though i may as well dump all the katy b tracks here then - LOVE "katy on a mission", really like her track w/magnetic man, and on one listen i think i'm feeling "louder" (produced by zinc, it seems). pretty interested in where she'll go for what appears to be her solo career.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNhPYj-5rIY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93AU5IkvDPY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Ynf2ScKiA

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 15:04 (fifteen years ago)

These dubstep dudes should stop attempting to write songs and concentrate on working on that enormous bombastic doomladen remix of Shakespeare's Sister's 'Stay' that will surely be the zenith that will followed by the genre's immediate decline.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)

i think it's katy b who's writing the songs there

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 15:14 (fifteen years ago)

Just a general observation, I haven't actually heard Katy On A Mission yet.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

i suppose you've got me there on the dubstep, but there always were and are always gonna be la roux vs skreams and whatnot and i'd like to think we were tracking something more interesting than simply the whims of annie mac and the student dubstep massive. and besides what is distinctive about that magnetic man besides its producer roster?

youtube is shifty sometimes i swear, the 'dash down' official didnt come up at all when i looked. i'm not a fan really but it does the job and i accept its popularity.

tbh i quite enjoy the ruder horrible ones like 'are u gonna bang doe' and that new 'oi you who's that lighty'. sorry ladies. it's a small tragedy however that a new breed of strange innovative mc house along the lines of 'skank calm down', 'got my beads on' or even rapid's 'report to the dancefloor' has flickered and died apparently.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsyjaE_nxzM

i quite like this btw but cant be bovd to explain its meaning.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

ugh all those katy b's are rank. budget lily allen wiv the enun-ce-a-shun is where her career's gonna go if you're really wondering.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

actually sorry i dunno what i was talking about with 'dash down' it's clearly the rudest one of all! think i was just going doo doo doo dash down, oh how lovely

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

Haha Pastor Lucas is terrific. Also discovered via that link - "Lethal Bizzle remixes" of various Eastenders characters hitting each other in the face, soundtracked by Pow!

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 20:41 (fifteen years ago)

got any crisps?

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 21:23 (fifteen years ago)

Katy On A Mission is a pretty good song but I'm really not sure about the whole Mockney thing, if I was being even more uncharitable than RTC I might say "dubstep Kate Nash".

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 22:20 (fifteen years ago)

Louder is probably the best of the three, for the groove at least. Gonna reserve judgement on the songs themselves but I've got the feeling she's going to be huge.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 22:26 (fifteen years ago)

Aggro Santos is shit, like, Fatboy from Eastenders releasing an inevitable novelty single shit, but I hope he sticks around because he's bound to lead to some good football headlines if nothing else.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 22:29 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RBtB_vkI_o

Am I alone in thinking that slowing down to hip-hop tempo actually suits Tinchy pretty well? Like, he no longer sounds like he's desperately starting down at the lyric sheet on the ground at all times.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 22:37 (fifteen years ago)

i suppose you've got me there on the dubstep, but there always were and are always gonna be la roux vs skreams and whatnot and i'd like to think we were tracking something more interesting than simply the whims of annie mac and the student dubstep massive.

Populist dubstep is to "uk urban" circa 2010 as big beat was to "uk urban" circa 1998 perhaps.

Endorse this thread but can't check any youtubes until I get home tonight.

Tim F, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 22:45 (fifteen years ago)

Populist dubstep is to "uk urban" circa 2010 as big beat was to "uk urban" circa 1998 perhaps.

I know it's our duty to compare every populist strain of dance music we don't like to big beat but I'm not feeling this one. Magnetic Man 2010 = UNKLE 1998 maybe?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 22:50 (fifteen years ago)

'Dash Down' is a shocker as well, not heard it before so no idea how big it is but the inevitable self-congratulatory conscious response featuring JME and Skepta may actually turn out to be preferable.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 22:52 (fifteen years ago)

know it's our duty to compare every populist strain of dance music we don't like to big beat but I'm not feeling this one. Magnetic Man 2010 = UNKLE 1998 maybe?

I like big beat!! I simply meant that in the late 90s people just loosely following popular urban/dance music would have been forgiven for thinking people were being perverse for talking about Doolally rather than "Praise You" or "Hey Boys, Hey Girls" (or Basement Jaxx for that matter). Actually the Jaxx is a good reference point in that - as long as you ignore what the music sounds like - you could totally do the kind of "Katy B On A Mission" IS funky basically argument makes using a random Jaxx single and uk garage.

Big ticket post trip hop is actually a much nastier comparison I reckon.

Tim F, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 23:02 (fifteen years ago)

argument Lex makes, obv.

Tim F, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 23:03 (fifteen years ago)

dunno about that tinchy gangsta one but the a-side 'in my system' is a well conceived bit of ace of base channelling and will go to #1 in a fortnight.

never fails to crack me up just thinking, hi america these are our fave rappers they are called tinchy stryder and tinie tempah.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 23:08 (fifteen years ago)

i liked big beat too!

i think that's katy b's actual accent btw.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 23:08 (fifteen years ago)

never fails to crack me up just thinking, hi america these are our fave rappers they are called tinchy stryder and tinie tempah.

Should have proper names like Snoop Doggy Dogg.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 23:09 (fifteen years ago)

xp both still being better than CHIPMUNK

"gangsta" was an uhhh "street single" quietly put on itunes a month or two ago, presumably to placate the people who wish tinchy and tinie were still making Proper Grime. "in my system" is the big proper single released in a couple of weeks. considered covering it in my singles column but couldn't really be bothered to have any thoughts on it. it's ok but not amazing, which counts as an improvement over the last album's singles.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 23:11 (fifteen years ago)

three words if you don't see the dubstep/bigbeat nuum:

MARY
ANNE
HOBBS

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 23:11 (fifteen years ago)

dubstep/big beat/metal

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 23:13 (fifteen years ago)

still trying to find out why the sudden R1 departure, too

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 23:13 (fifteen years ago)

I'm broadly speaking better with that comparison if "big beat" = the Chemical Brothers rather than Bentley Rhythm Ace. Still feel that Magnetic Man = UNKLE is the better parallel now in the "we making murky smoking music but now here are our stadium sized PROPER songs" sense.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 23:17 (fifteen years ago)

wowsers i missed that completely. will play a propellerheads, arab strap, random saul williams speech, and 'enter sandman' selection in her honour.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 23:22 (fifteen years ago)

i'm just going to put this here due to there being no other real place for it. it sort of snuck up on me unexpectedly and i can't stop playing it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1Vt9KNvIIg

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 August 2010 09:40 (fifteen years ago)

lex your denial that any of these tunes are dubstep is kinda touching.

I'm quite happy for dubstep to turn into vaguely OMD-ish pop though. The little synth patterns in the high-pitched chorus are the best part.

Tim F, Thursday, 5 August 2010 09:51 (fifteen years ago)

where did i deny that "cold sweat" is dubstep?? will you stop projecting your dubstep-hatred on to everything?

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 August 2010 09:59 (fifteen years ago)

I was referring to the "there's no other place for it" claim.

Tim F, Thursday, 5 August 2010 10:10 (fifteen years ago)

and you should chill.

Tim F, Thursday, 5 August 2010 10:13 (fifteen years ago)

can only admire lex's brass posting that goldielocks after matt's "dubstep kate nash" gbh earlier. sure it didn't hit you on the head after it snuck up on you?

r|t|c, Thursday, 5 August 2010 10:52 (fifteen years ago)

to be fair though everything's admissable and i was the one who offered up aggro santos after all. does that g-locks look like troubling the charts or is it just a percy?

r|t|c, Thursday, 5 August 2010 10:55 (fifteen years ago)

similar to the roll deep/ill blu combo, i do wonder if the crazy cousinz mix of aggro's 'candy' was really so outre that it couldn't have made chart headway by itself - perhaps a little capricious of me but not by much, surely? how real is this supposed underground glass ceiling?

r|t|c, Thursday, 5 August 2010 11:06 (fifteen years ago)

not saying it's great or anything mind.

r|t|c, Thursday, 5 August 2010 11:08 (fifteen years ago)

memo to self: always have a good stare at the top 40 and remind yourself of reality before saying anything.

r|t|c, Thursday, 5 August 2010 11:14 (fifteen years ago)

Time lag between underground and chart success is at least four years now dude.

Matt DC, Thursday, 5 August 2010 11:16 (fifteen years ago)

that's the thing tho i don't mean groundswell support, i mean producers who started off undie being the first choices for pop stabs and being marketed as normal.

like if you were ill blu what is even your career plan at this point?

r|t|c, Thursday, 5 August 2010 11:24 (fifteen years ago)

cos the artists nowadays arent a million miles from the underground themselves, while a good few undie producers not only have the skills but an idea for what's pop as well - i'm not being like burial should do stuff for rihanna or anything. and yet somewhere along the line a tinchy stryder will always find a fraser t smith instead.

r|t|c, Thursday, 5 August 2010 11:30 (fifteen years ago)

Surprised Ill Blu haven't tried to do another "Stick Up", though obv that wasn't such a success the first time.

Tim F, Thursday, 5 August 2010 11:34 (fifteen years ago)

similar to the roll deep/ill blu combo, i do wonder if the crazy cousinz mix of aggro's 'candy' was really so outre that it couldn't have made chart headway by itself - perhaps a little capricious of me but not by much, surely? how real is this supposed underground glass ceiling?

1st part - well has any crazy cousinz production been remotely chart-bothering?
2nd part - i'd love to know tbh, but i have zero sense of these things. i mean, uk funky sounded like pop from the get-go, and i still have no idea why the actual urban crossover took the form of cheapo electro and fraser t smith hackery instead.

i wonder if "omg" would have had any success if the ill blu mix had been the main mix.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 August 2010 11:43 (fifteen years ago)

tbh i have no idea how or why magnetic man are suddenly in the top 10, and why that couldn't happen to ill blu.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 August 2010 11:44 (fifteen years ago)

tbh i don't think you are being h there.

r|t|c, Thursday, 5 August 2010 11:53 (fifteen years ago)

Magnetic Man are not "suddenly" in the top 10, it's taken years of Skream & Benga playing all over the place and building up a following before unleashing a pop album. It would take Ill Blu years to do that.

My Ill Blu career plan would probably be along the lines of: "credible" single on Hyperdub ---> Tinie Tempah remix ---> indie blog-friendly remix of I dunno Hot Chip or something ---> get on the sort of big indie-dance bills that take place at places like the Coronet ---> get more bombastic ---> play every club night and festival in Britain for two or three years --> release big pop record with either loads of collaborators or Katy B style "muse".

Matt DC, Thursday, 5 August 2010 11:54 (fifteen years ago)

Getting a few tracks on an Xbox game would probably help at some point in there.

Matt DC, Thursday, 5 August 2010 11:55 (fifteen years ago)

get more bombastic

this is where it goes horribly wrong

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 August 2010 12:00 (fifteen years ago)

xxp good question about 'omg' though. stuff that doesnt have a immediate verse/chorus thing going will probably always struggle to an extent but 1/ there could be a radio edit obv and 2/ it wouldve just sounded so striking on the radio in the middle of everything else it's near impossible to imagine a meh response. of course it could hardly have done any worse than the original.

the issue remains though that the remix was after the fact - what will it take for a sabrina to approach an ill blu first?

r|t|c, Thursday, 5 August 2010 12:00 (fifteen years ago)

Ill Blu have already done a remix of Hot Chip Matt!

Tim F, Thursday, 5 August 2010 12:02 (fifteen years ago)

haha matt in that case if i were ill blu i'd just carry on sitting at home charging £50 for a dub tbh :/

r|t|c, Thursday, 5 August 2010 12:03 (fifteen years ago)

I'm already having trouble working out how Ill Blu could get significantly more bombastic than he already is.

What we're getting at is who if anyone will take on the role of Timbaland/Neps/Dream style superproducer, I suppose? That's probably not going to be Ill Blu but you never know.

Matt DC, Thursday, 5 August 2010 12:05 (fifteen years ago)

It's "Stick Up" style or nothing. I don't think large amounts of people are gonna embrace something as percussive and fast as Ill Blu's normal style any time soon.

Tim F, Thursday, 5 August 2010 12:09 (fifteen years ago)

the issue remains though that the remix was after the fact - what will it take for a sabrina to approach an ill blu first?

an industry that's a lot less safety-first? if you had the unenviable job of attempting to launch sabrina washington's pop career, with all the mainstream-begging aspirations that implies, what would it take to think outside of shuffling her down the cheapo electro pathway that literally every non-indie british pop act is currently on?

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 August 2010 12:12 (fifteen years ago)

as i've said though, this is why katy b's solo career will be worth keeping an eye on, because if anyone's going to approach funky producers first it'll be her. collabing with benga and magnetic man is probably the best way to get herself into the public consciousness, but with her track record i'd be surprised if the album contained nothing from eg geeneus.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 August 2010 12:15 (fifteen years ago)

She'd have to fuck up massively to erase my memory of "Tell Me" and "As I".

Tim F, Thursday, 5 August 2010 12:18 (fifteen years ago)

sigh yeah i suppose i can see the foul logic in that katy n argument.

r|t|c, Thursday, 5 August 2010 12:35 (fifteen years ago)

katy b i mean, oops gosh

r|t|c, Thursday, 5 August 2010 12:35 (fifteen years ago)

"dubstep Kate Nash"

oh shit Matt thanx 4 ruining all my joy

cis-dur (c sharp major), Thursday, 5 August 2010 12:44 (fifteen years ago)

I'm sort of still trying to get my head round the fact that while the UK pop market seems fine with black male MCs and singers, there aren't many black female vocalists making the jump.

So there's kind of a massive internal eyeroll going on when the first person the UK funky scene throws up who looks like she might become an actual pop star turns out to be camping up the Lily Allen/Kate Nashisms with a side order of Mike Skinner chic in the video. She's a better singer than any of them but still...

Matt DC, Thursday, 5 August 2010 12:54 (fifteen years ago)

i might have the same reaction were it not for the fact that i only realised katy b wasn't black a few months ago

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 August 2010 12:58 (fifteen years ago)

The funny thing about whether Sabrina etc should do proper funky singles is that of course Sabrina's two tracks prior to "OMG" were uk funky - I'm just rediscovering how awesome "Take It To The Top" was. Of course they disappeared without a trace outside the funky scene itself. Would things have been different if they'd been pushed by a record label? Hard to say.

Tim F, Sunday, 8 August 2010 11:08 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdPVaI00v_I

^^banging

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 11:36 (fifteen years ago)

Loving this new Ny single.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APGGnxBoKZw

The referee was perfect (Chris), Thursday, 12 August 2010 17:24 (fifteen years ago)

º_O general levy on the mz bratt selecta remix

r|t|c, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 14:59 (fifteen years ago)

two months pass...

i'm not really sure where this song should go, but i love it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiAXKFTNfOc

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 11:02 (fifteen years ago)

Really liking that Jamie Woon track, he's a Subeena collaborator, right? This is better than Solidify though, the backing is gorgeous.

Matt DC, Sunday, 7 November 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)

I've done a complete 180 on Katy On A Mission over the last few months, but it's all down to Katy rather than Benga I think. There must be an amazing house or electro remix out there that keeps the vocal and ditches the backing, right?

Matt DC, Sunday, 7 November 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

I've always rather liked Katy herself on the tune. I know some people find her newly accented vocals but I think it works for the most part (the issues with Kate Nash et. al.'s voices really crystallise in terms of their interrelationship with the style of songwriting, production choices etc - the way it all screams "I'm authentic!" - which simply doesn't arise with Katy).

Tim F, Sunday, 7 November 2010 21:58 (fifteen years ago)

There must be an amazing house or electro remix out there that keeps the vocal and ditches the backing, right?

the roska remix was kinda disappointing :/

girl unit's been asked to remix "lights on" though! so exciting.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Monday, 8 November 2010 02:35 (fifteen years ago)

Lights On is the opposite kettle of fish in that I think it's a stronger groove than a song per se, but really heartened to find out that she's gone for a Geeneus beat to follow up the big hit. If she continues to become a proper pop star she could be an excellent foil for so many talented people.

Matt DC, Monday, 8 November 2010 11:13 (fifteen years ago)

this 'night air' tune is alright u know, count me in! best phil collins song in years.

r|t|c, Friday, 12 November 2010 12:46 (fifteen years ago)

been jamming the ill blu rmx of "good times" and realized i hadn't heard the original so i looked it up on youtube and holy lol that is a hilarious video -- who is the storch lookin dude? also the budget for that is so hilariously small. the "club" holding their euphoric party looks about the size of my bedroom

big smang theory (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 November 2010 23:08 (fifteen years ago)

i love that on chartstats 'Game Over' is credited to Tinchy ft Chipmunk when he probably does the worst turn on it. kinda shocked by how good Example sounds on it (not that good really, but still). Giggs going first (and Tinchy going last) also pretty wtf. not all that thrilled by the beat/bass but there's enough funny lines here and nice to see a big MCs collab like this doing so relatively well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wpCf0FsZKQ

Noel 1 Kanye 10.0 (blueski), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 22:00 (fifteen years ago)

Does Pow! 2011 belong in here?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 22:19 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

do we like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCivYv4HqiI

zvookster, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 17:19 (fifteen years ago)

"katy on a mission" is awes btw, gonna put rtc hate down to intercine uk stuff i don't understand

zvookster, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 17:22 (fifteen years ago)

i thought u were inglis

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 17:23 (fifteen years ago)

youtube.com/watch?v=l8C4HL2LyWU

even if i was i'm not sure i'd get uk funky, post-not-dubstep, & urban pop positions if any there be

zvookster, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 17:27 (fifteen years ago)

the owl is lol

zvookster, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 17:39 (fifteen years ago)

there's a poster for this single at the end of my road. i am rendered slightly speechless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyazBLBx52g

i mean what. is this...a thing now?

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 16:45 (fourteen years ago)

"spend money like an oligarch"

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 16:46 (fourteen years ago)

apart from that white dress i'm pretty confident there is nothing of worth in that vid

zvookster, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 19:29 (fourteen years ago)

importnt update btw: the owl is still lol

zvookster, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 19:30 (fourteen years ago)

the only time i'd seen this yasmin's name before was as the featured vocalist on devlin's latest single (unless it's the same yasmin as on low deep's "inside out"), so i kind of assumed her own solo debut would be your same ol' same ol' electrothump as everything else, but...it's not! it's really good! the beat...where is that whistle from? i'm as surprised that the beat's by shy fx tbh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsNBQJEofQM&ob=av2el

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 24 January 2011 23:00 (fourteen years ago)

i'll crosspost lady chann's latest - amazing early 90s rave shit - here as well as the dancehall thread, may as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35eqWuPKa8g

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 24 January 2011 23:01 (fourteen years ago)

Someone get Farah on The X Factor:

http://www.youtube.com/user/FarahOfficial#p/a/u/0/ey1GXYEypjI

Tim F, Saturday, 29 January 2011 01:25 (fourteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

new mz bratt is actually really good!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMKYXIvRYRQ

thumbs up to the video too.

lex pretend, Monday, 21 February 2011 18:11 (fourteen years ago)

New Yasmin

daavid, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 06:05 (fourteen years ago)

Love the Mz Bratt.

Tim F, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 10:08 (fourteen years ago)

three months pass...

What do we know about Cherri V? I'm liking this one a lot, bit of a Wants For Dinner vibe going on:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94Y8EY9TYbc

Matt DC, Sunday, 22 May 2011 21:13 (fourteen years ago)

two months pass...

LOL:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHgkci3srpg&feature=related

Tim F, Monday, 25 July 2011 09:30 (fourteen years ago)

Is that what I think it is? I'd been waiting for something like that to happen.

Matt DC, Monday, 25 July 2011 09:37 (fourteen years ago)

I have to assume it is.

Tim F, Monday, 25 July 2011 09:41 (fourteen years ago)

Wait, if you think an exploitative cover, then no. It's kind of an answer record.

Tim F, Monday, 25 July 2011 09:42 (fourteen years ago)

Hah, I had guessed at an exploitative cover.

Matt DC, Monday, 25 July 2011 10:46 (fourteen years ago)

In truth a cover by a dude would be kind of disturbing as well as sad-for-Farah.

Tim F, Monday, 25 July 2011 10:49 (fourteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

This is kinda sick:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YelL9baa6YA&feature=relmfu

Tim F, Friday, 12 August 2011 11:17 (fourteen years ago)

LOL:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIsDhcu7HIo

Tim F, Saturday, 13 August 2011 08:24 (fourteen years ago)

haha a uk urban pop stage mum highly recommended that one to me this week

perhaps it's sheeran and not maverick sabre who's the new frankenposterboy after all

r|t|c, Saturday, 13 August 2011 11:00 (fourteen years ago)

I actively resent Chaka Khan being reappropriated in the name of such goth nonsense. Was actually looking at my watch waiting for the dnb break to come crashing in half way through but unbelievably it was not to be.

Matt DC, Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:04 (fourteen years ago)

Really don't know what to make of sheeran.

Tim F, Sunday, 14 August 2011 00:41 (fourteen years ago)

Matt your post is OTM except you should have said "errant goth nonsense."

What does r|t|c do that leads to him receiving recommendations from rolling uk urban stage mums?

This is Sheeran's new single which is also pretty funny but in a different way:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXvzzTICvJs

Can someone explain this guy to me, he's like a frankenlol voltron comprising Daniel Bedingfield, Mike Skinner, Plan B and Kano it seems?

Tim F, Sunday, 14 August 2011 00:53 (fourteen years ago)

ed sheeran is the worst thing but so many people seem to rate him.

what do we think of ms dynamite's big comeback single?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfrZ5k6bwC4

i've had it for a while and every time i play it i enjoy it, but it never quite clicks into addictiveness like i feel it should, like "bad gyal" and "wile out" and "get low" did

lex pretend, Friday, 19 August 2011 15:04 (fourteen years ago)

yeah same here, think i rather tend to lose the thread of the song after a while

r|t|c, Friday, 19 August 2011 15:56 (fourteen years ago)

uncharacteristically uninspired di genius remix of that as well iirc

r|t|c, Friday, 19 August 2011 15:57 (fourteen years ago)

cleo sol, of a few perempay & dee cuts fame - i really love this, just a really nice relaxed reggae skank

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPr6YY7kDaI

lex pretend, Saturday, 20 August 2011 09:59 (fourteen years ago)

would've gone in my summer jams piece had i heard it in time

lex pretend, Saturday, 20 August 2011 10:00 (fourteen years ago)

Really like that Dynamite track - feel that there's resistance and texture there but it never loses its prettiness.

abcfsk, Saturday, 20 August 2011 10:05 (fourteen years ago)

Love this thread! Great work everyone

Lophar Andreusz DeLeone (admrl), Saturday, 20 August 2011 16:02 (fourteen years ago)

Not keen on that Dynamite single at all - it falls victim to the twin modern malaises of trying to please everyone at the same time and of slowing an MCs flow to a few chants and removing everything that makes them special in the first place.

Matt DC, Saturday, 20 August 2011 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

wretch #1 eh!

much like with 'traktor' i've been so spoiled on the garage mix the original just sounds bizarre

interesting hit song tho all the same

r|t|c, Sunday, 21 August 2011 21:08 (fourteen years ago)

rizzle kicks @ 8 is funny as well

there must be so many failed dudes across the board from like 5 years ago thinking wtf generally these days

r|t|c, Sunday, 21 August 2011 21:12 (fourteen years ago)

the original "traktor" was a perfectly enjoyable post-"pass out" thing, the original "don't go" is dreadful. i have no idea why wretch 32 is at no 1.

lex pretend, Sunday, 21 August 2011 21:35 (fourteen years ago)

Is it a Cocteau Twins sample in the background of the Wretch(ed) thing? I've just listened to it for the first time, was surprised when it finished because I expecting it to actually go somewhere.

ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Sunday, 21 August 2011 22:09 (fourteen years ago)

not sure it really warrants the vitriol, i think it's kinda cute? if turgidly so

certainly better than the ploddingly obv 'heaven'

r|t|c, Sunday, 21 August 2011 22:43 (fourteen years ago)

oh josh whatsisname's awful bluntian voice though, like we needed a cut-price ed sheeran

as i've said elsewhere i didn't think much of "heaven" until bang one day it clicked, but i'd take sandé singing pretty much anything over ever hearing the "don't go" guy again

lex pretend, Sunday, 21 August 2011 22:55 (fourteen years ago)

These new battlelines reaffirm my belief in an essential order to the world.

Now what was it I was listening to the other day that sounded like a sped up version of "Heaven".

Tim F, Sunday, 21 August 2011 23:03 (fourteen years ago)

http://soundcloud.com/truetiger/ed-sheeran-you-need-me-i-dont

yaaaay

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 00:10 (fourteen years ago)

"Ed asked us to remix his second single with Dot Rotten & Scrufizzer"

r|t|c, Monday, 22 August 2011 00:15 (fourteen years ago)

lol just came here to post the Sheeran, since i was amused to see it on a Flava rundown just now, it being like an arctic monkeys side-project. maybe more rhythmically more kinetic than you'd expect for that, and obv informed by rap/r&b self-referentialty, but still

zvookster, Friday, 26 August 2011 09:35 (fourteen years ago)

more more more howdyalikeithowdyalikeit

zvookster, Friday, 26 August 2011 09:36 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u87_y3E61ro

SOMEHOW... this is still kinda cute

r|t|c, Friday, 26 August 2011 10:13 (fourteen years ago)

have u guys heard this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAN779kN718

r|t|c, Friday, 26 August 2011 10:15 (fourteen years ago)

being irish can i just say that "stadium heights with damien rice" is the most depressing and bizarre lyric to hear a young singer/songwriter utter, especially while he's getting funky

zvookster, Friday, 26 August 2011 10:20 (fourteen years ago)

that rascals is a banger imo. could lose verse 2 tho.

zvookster, Friday, 26 August 2011 10:26 (fourteen years ago)

oh yahh i've seen that mad posse cut. chick at 2:17 is slomosupercool.

zvookster, Friday, 26 August 2011 10:33 (fourteen years ago)

mike delinquent's mix of 'never soft' is once again both exactly what you'd expect and perfectly correct

r|t|c, Friday, 26 August 2011 11:58 (fourteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKXjPXqE5qc

don't like this song or anything but jeeeeez the lengths dudes will go to have any random indie kinda voice on their hooks these days

r|t|c, Thursday, 22 September 2011 20:52 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvAyBlTk6eA

ATTN LEX this is playlisted on 1xtra now so someone other than you might start to care for a change!

r|t|c, Thursday, 22 September 2011 20:55 (fourteen years ago)

god that cameo ft kids tune upthread is so addictive. esp love the bit when scrufizzer inexplicably transforms into a seagull midbar

if ur on the radar, come chat to me den
come to the manor come chat to medidididistididididi SHUUU! SHUUU! SHUUU!

r|t|c, Thursday, 22 September 2011 21:04 (fourteen years ago)

flirta d was a hero to most

r|t|c, Thursday, 22 September 2011 21:05 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q949rFuVfHM

oh god the choral bridge

lol

r|t|c, Friday, 23 September 2011 11:56 (fourteen years ago)

really, really not necessary to have songs that say HEY SIMON at any point

r|t|c, Friday, 23 September 2011 12:00 (fourteen years ago)

anyone watching the mobos tonight?

owenf, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 17:34 (fourteen years ago)

ATTN LEX this is playlisted on 1xtra now so someone other than you might start to care for a change!

haha i love it, too

she's so ridiculously talented and charismatic, i have no idea why no one cares!

lex pretend, Saturday, 8 October 2011 18:03 (fourteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH8k9Sutw_0&fmt=18

<3

uberweiss, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 12:36 (fourteen years ago)

two months pass...

i love the new jme single

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrOwSEpYLKg

tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Sunday, 22 January 2012 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

You’re not lord of the place
You jacked a couple guys before with your mates
You’re not a badman cuz you robbed someone, fam
You’re just poor and brave

Beef? Slam doors in your face
Uppercut leave your jaw in a brace
Man will draw for the hadak-dak-duken
Leave you on the floor snoring away
MCs think they’re raising the bar
By spitting on 14 genres a day
Safe!
Raising the bar makes it easier for me to score anyway

tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Sunday, 22 January 2012 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

four months pass...

well then, rudimental's new direction is fairly shameless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oABEGc8Dus0

yet to work out whether it works despite being :/ or if it's just :/

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 10:38 (thirteen years ago)

listened to with "sexy sexy" or "spoons" in mind it's gross, but if it actually becomes a massive ubiquitous hit it might make me cave in through sheer unremitting force

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 10:43 (thirteen years ago)

meh on that personally but "shameless new direction" is a bit unfair i think - rudimental have always switched codes brightly and to a high level and if it so happens this is the one that sticks with the punters it's hard to begrudge them that really

i'm not 100% certain if black butter is their own label or if i've misread but that's similarly versatile and nicely curated too

r|t|c, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 11:08 (thirteen years ago)

i think it is yeah

while i'm here this rita ora song at No 1 is way more boring than even i was expecting

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

rudimental #1, hats off

r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 09:51 (thirteen years ago)

p sure i'm fully allergic to hands in the air old man soul anthems generally? someone remind me of a classic one i might like before i note this down forever in the book of the dead

r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 09:55 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lQa9X_WvR0

HAHAHAHA this little gimp covering this, TOO GOOD

r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 10:04 (thirteen years ago)

oh man i'm crying srsly

what were they thinking!!!!!!!

r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 10:06 (thirteen years ago)

http://smtdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/alex-thompson1.jpg

look at this next lil twinkwave guy signed to tinie tempah's label

i swear to god if i didnt know better the whole rita ora style uk pound shop ripoff pathology often has a savagely caustic burlesque quality

r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 10:19 (thirteen years ago)

why isn't rita ora better? i don't know why it surprises me that she's not but is it that hard for britain to get things right

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 10:22 (thirteen years ago)

ora is kind of the one sad exception in that she's not a misbegotten brit sketch but a cold cynical franchise clone engineered by rihanna's handlers themselves

r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 10:28 (thirteen years ago)

in a period when 100% of rihanna's own material sounds like hasty, shoddy c-rate rihanna, surely it's not that hard to trump her slightly

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 10:29 (thirteen years ago)

idk, riri ripoffs across the globe have made me appreciate her more than ever as an artiste and vocalist actually

r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 10:35 (thirteen years ago)

oh i appreciate what she brings, even down to the unstinting robot work ethic, but lately the material is just so mediocre it's not even notably bad

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 10:57 (thirteen years ago)

The Rudimental song sounds like Seal

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 June 2012 11:28 (thirteen years ago)

it's off-topic but I have totally succumbed to "Where Have You Been"

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 June 2012 11:28 (thirteen years ago)

Rita Ora Live Lounge appearance on R1 was.... unflatteringly revealing

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 June 2012 11:30 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=902-SMEGDIg

awight laavv d'yer fink this ole lahndan enunciation lark's gone a bit too far latelee?

r|t|c, Monday, 18 June 2012 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

can a mod change this to rolling uk urban pop rubbish btw, i regret my prometheusising early posts only distract from proper appreciation of the misshapen remedial lovelies i now only care to submit

r|t|c, Monday, 18 June 2012 21:07 (thirteen years ago)


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