Which Coast of Rap Do You Prefer? East or West

East.

I'm an eastie myself, and was kinda shocked as I was going through entering my music collection at the disparity between both.

like i have a lot of dirty south stuff, some of which qualifies, some which doesn't, a slew of East coast shit, and maybe 5% left over is West Coast.

I dunno what it is...I just like the rawness of the East coast albums, especially in the 90's. Especially the stuff from the Northeast, ie Wu-Tang, Nas, Biggie, etc. West Coast to me didn't seem to capture the same vibe, a lot of what I have from there is admittedly the 'Death Row' stuff from the 90s with a few others sprinkled in.

No dirty south for me at all, never got into it. Always been an east coast fan since i was a young kid....growing up on eric b, kool g rap, kane...etc

SOUTH

Definitely East coast. Mostly the same reasons as San Te. All my rap faves are mostly from the East coast school, a handful are from the South, and only a couple from the West.

WEST SIDE 4EVR

getting into hip-hop from a uk perspective, when the regional divisions weren't really front & centre of what people talked about, it was really surprising when i realised a few years ago that all the rappers i really loved enough to be a "fan" of hailed from the south (t.i. and trina being my default favourite rappers of the 00s that i'll always check for)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW6QTyQNakI

for me the south thing was a slow evolver -- like in the last 3-4 years.

lol shakey that album is en route to me at the moment

play

east.

sant te - really? south has been the only real prominent force in hiphop post-blueprint!

(I didn't like Certified...)

not a great album tbh but that song is easily one of the best things on it.

a hoy hoy - well the thing is rap is only like maybe 25% of my music collection, so I usually go through phases where I'm listening to it each year. over the last decade, I delved into undie stuff, and then a lot of it was me delving into 90s releases that I'd missed previously. south rap at one point in time rubbed me the wrong way mostly cuz I had listened to the wrong artists.

when I found T.I., tho, and Lil Wayne (which I was real late in the game on), that changed the game for me.

getting into hip-hop from a uk perspective, when the regional divisions weren't really front & centre of what people talked about, it was really surprising when i realised a few years ago that all the rappers i really loved enough to be a "fan" of hailed from the south (t.i. and trina being my default favourite rappers of the 00s that i'll always check for)

― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, August 5, 2010 12:55 PM (1 minute ago)

I'm curious, when did rap get big in the UK? Were you guys listening back in the 90's when all the NYC classics were dropping, or is it more of a recent thing? It seems that Europe has really become a huge proponent of Southern rap, almost more so than the US. An example being how G-Side's Huntsville International was big overseas, but got majorly slept on over here. Which is too bad, cause that mixtape was a banger.

East by a million miles

getting into hip-hop from a uk perspective, when the regional divisions weren't really front & centre of what people talked about, it was really surprising when i realised a few years ago that all the rappers i really loved enough to be a "fan" of hailed from the south (t.i. and trina being my default favourite rappers of the 00s that i'll always check for)

― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, August 5, 2010 12:55 PM (1 minute ago)

that's kind of odd and surprising, to be honest. it feels like if you follow rap, no matter where you live, you'd end up pretty quickly getting a sense of geography and catching onto to the fact that the city/region a rapper's from is always like one of the top 3 facts everyone knows about them and is constantly mentioned in their music.

when did rap get big in the UK?

Public Enemy

I'm curious, when did rap get big in the UK? Were you guys listening back in the 90's when all the NYC classics were dropping, or is it more of a recent thing?

yeah hip-hop's always had a profile for as long as i've been listening to pop, but the actual hits that cross over and become known hits over here are...sort of random. broadly it's always been NYC-centric; i don't know if i'd have got as into southern rap as i have done over the past decade without, er, the internet.

you'd end up pretty quickly getting a sense of geography and catching onto to the fact that the city/region a rapper's from is always like one of the top 3 facts everyone knows about them and is constantly mentioned in their music

oh yeah, you would get a sense of this, but post-biggie/pac (which i was too young to really follow at the time) it's rarely been framed as antagonistic in the uk - i don't think many uk fans would have any east/west loyalty. snoop's never been marketed in opposition to jay-z over here. and from this perspective, i think the timbaland/neptunes dominance eroded the sonic differences between the regions enough that it wouldn't have been immediately obvious where the rapper behind any given hit in that period hailed from.

hip hop's pop success/chart dominance has eroded a lot of regionalism - which basically peaked in the 90s.

^there is more of a collaborative spirit now, and the cross-pollination of sounds has really enriched the genre as a whole. That being said, the regional stylistic differences are still there. You can't listen to Yelawolf and not immediately know he's from the South. Or listen to Cam'ron and not think of NYC.

Has anything of note, besides the DJ Quik album, come outta the West recently?

um yes

i grew up in the west coast. listened to mostly east coast stuff at first until NWA. was into the early 90s east coast shit but LA underground started coming on strong in the mid/late 90s. was not loving the much main stream stuff in the late 90s from either coast. so yeah this is a tough choice.

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west will likely get underrated in this poll, that said i'm voting east

oh forgot about too short!

fuck it, voted west

and the cross-pollination of sounds has really enriched the genre as a whole.

I disagree with this a lot actually - imho its narrowed most hip hop production sounds down to this lowest-common-denominator eurotrance synth sounds garbage. sad.

which of those two E-40 albums is better? or are they fairly similar? i hate dual-day releases, they leave you all conflicted

That being said, the regional stylistic differences are still there

i get the impression that, with hip-hop being less dominant commercially, regional stylistic differences have come back more and more - agree on all your examples

lol was gonna post the lyrics to Banner's WestSide which is basically a roster of every great rapper in the West, but all the internet transcriptions are wrong (JJ Fag? JJ FAD you idiot lol)

East coast rap has a longer (more dense?) history and a ton more artists to represent it, so this comparison has never really been fair. Despite being a Cali native, I've always liked east coast rap more, but voted west coast because growing up here during the whole Death Row/Tupac era was really fun. West coast backpacker rap acts were much more interesting to me at the time as well. Best Coast totally should've been an option.

I like The Coup a lot...

which of those two E-40 albums is better? or are they fairly similar? i hate dual-day releases, they leave you all conflicted

I like Day Shift more, but I think it was deej that pointed out that the best tracks on Night Shift are the best on both.

http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/page/westside-1680.jpg

West coast backpacker rap acts were much more interesting to me at the time as well. Best Coast totally should've been an option.

^^^

kinda hated the Death Row/Tupac era stuff tho

ANT BANKS

i also have mad love for Domino

the big bad ass

and the cross-pollination of sounds has really enriched the genre as a whole.

I disagree with this a lot actually - imho its narrowed most hip hop production sounds down to this lowest-common-denominator eurotrance synth sounds garbage. sad.

― Party Car! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, August 5, 2010 1:34 PM (7 seconds ago)

I think the L.C.D. sound has more to do with the general slide towards pop that all music has taken recently. Besides, this is a necessary part of the cycle.

An area(city/coast/whatev) has a specific sound for a long time. That sound starts to stagnate. Elements from other areas are brought into to make the sound fresh again. This is eventually overdone and the music turns into pop radio. Then the revivalists ride in and save the day with a modern take on the classic sound.

Also, I'll have to check out those E-40 albums. Other West coast recs appreciated!

East coast rap has a longer (more dense?) history and a ton more artists to represent it,

oh bullshit. maybe early on if we're counting serious OLD SCHOOL stuff like the Funky Four+1 and Ramellzee and stuff but once the 80s rolled up the West coast was right there. Too $hort's first tape is 1985, 6 in the Mornin, Egyptian Lover is 1983, tons of electro stuff around that time, etc.

World Class Wrreckin' Cru y'all

King Tee!

king tee....holy crap, theres a name i haven;t heard since i was 13.

tru dat to an extent, no need to bark. but commercially speaking, east coast rap had a stronger presence in the 80's/early 90's...that's why west coast rap blew up as an alternative to that sound.

I'll grant that commercially the East Coast owned pre-1987. once NWA came in, all bets were off tho.

it's funny to look back and see how clear the sonic/production style distinctions were - part of that just came down to different scenes having access to different technology, but another big difference was the sample sources. those differences have largely evaporated. there's still some regional distinctions, but they're much more subtle/harder to discern

yea i mean if you throw a mid 90's rap album on for 25 seconds, I could tell you where it was produced within moments.

shout out to Above the Law, some of my favorite rap ever

btw people, throw out your favorites from each coast

I'm curious, when did rap get big in the UK? Were you guys listening back in the 90's when all the NYC classics were dropping, or is it more of a recent thing? It seems that Europe has really become a huge proponent of Southern rap, almost more so than the US. An example being how G-Side's Huntsville International was big overseas, but got majorly slept on over here. Which is too bad, cause that mixtape was a banger.

― 'ello govna, Thursday, 5 August 2010 18:02 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

It became quite a big thing in reggae dancehalls (quite a thing post punk [not post-punk]) pretty early on and led to some pretty high profile tours (Whodini, the Def Jam one who LL infamously got booed for dropping I Feel Love (ever since rappers don't come over with their slow jams, so to speak), '85 Fresh, PE/Beasties etc. Around the late 80s/early 90s our own scene started to build up, with clubs and djs and comps such as the Electro compilations that are p much as definitive to compiling the times as the ego trip lists. During the 90s it was v. much eastcoast orientated - 2pac had too many records for the ladies, Englishers are known for liking their music raaw - and was very apprehensive at first about the rise of the south to the point where I'm still unsure whether 'we' have gotten it, prefering undie& homegrown by and large, which is a real shame.

the west coast is the better of the two coasts.

i don't listen to very much of either these days, although definitely more west coast. i break it down like

when i was 12 years old i heard 'fuck the police' for the first time

when i was 14 years old i listened to 'enter the 36 chambers' every day for a year, as did most of my friends. we would just hang out and talk about jokes & references we would figure out from verses, nuances in beats we would discover.

had some pretty wild binges for months when i first got into m.o.p, too, but i think these two experiences have impacted me most significantly. it's a close call but listening to straight outta compton on repeat in my bedroom was just like, one of the most intense physical experiences of my life. so that.

this is kind of an unnecessary post, but i think it's a somewhat apt analogy for the way i feel about both coasts. east coast is more terse and hard and poetic, also often pretty minimal. west more visceral, immediately palpable.

Tribe Called Quest sold me on the east (albeit they're hardly the representation of East Coast I think of), but they got me into rap in general. seeing them on their reunion tour in 2006 was ;_;

very apprehensive at first about the rise of the south to the point where I'm still unsure whether 'we' have gotten it, prefering undie& homegrown by and large, which is a real shame

i'm pretty sure we haven't, apart from outkast. lil wayne's never had a big solo hit here and his carter iii tour was a disaster. t.i. had no profile at all until he pulled all the lowest common denominator stops on "live your life" (and i'm still not sure whether he's actually known to the public as, you know, himself).

btw people, throw out your favorites from each coast

GOAT:
Ice Cube

Not too far behind:
Digital Underground
Too $hort
E-40
NWA
Snoop

Other faves:
Tone Loc
The DOC
Cypress Hill
Del tha Funkee Homosapien
King Tee
Keak da Sneak
The Pharcyde
WC and the Maad Circle
Federation
Andre Nickatina
Mac Dre
Rappin 4-Tay

tons of others...

oddly I never gave much of a shit about 2Pac

YES on The D.O.C. btw, rumors are that doctors have confirmed his vocal cords aren't truly unreparable after all, and that he could get 70% of his voice strength back. supposedly he was supposed to have an appointment for surgery.

2Pac's in my 'good but not great' pile. sometimes I got sick of the slick r&b beats. lyrically his word play left a lot to be desired at times too (tho when he was hot he was hot)

No One Can Do It Better is seriously underrated, such a great album

straight up classic. my favorite of any of the N.W.A. affiliated releases, really (though the first 3 Cube discs are pretty close).

east:
eric b and rakim
biggie
tribe
big daddy kane
kool g
big l
de la soul
epmd
guru

West:
dj quik
snoop
nwa
2pac
too short
wu

oh shit forgot the doc

and somehow wu tang ended up in my west coast list...

Big L seriously rules. Lifestyles of the Poor and Dangerous is one of my favs, his lyricism....another gone too soon :/.

also for other recent west coast recs there's that lil b the based god thread... I don't quite get the guy's deal myself

From Oakland to Sacktown, the Bay Area and back down.

Bronx keeps on makin it...

I know it's a wild kaleidoscope of regional scenes, but from like 1979 up through like 1992, a not-exaggerating-here 85% of all amazing rap records were coming from the East

tru dat

Why the fuck can you not buy 3ft high and rising on the itunes...annoying. i have the cassette what the fuck good does that do me.

a not-exaggerating-here 85% of all amazing rap records were coming from the East

lies

I mean I guess if you go all the way back to '79 that's true, but the proportion narrows considerably after '87, as I said upthread

oddly I never gave much of a shit about 2Pac

I don't find it that odd. 2pac had a handful of great singles (I Get Around, Hit Em Up, maybe California Love), but his overall output doesn't hold water against other iconic rappers. He was more style than substance.

I will say Strictly 4 my Niggaz is solid

Big L seriously rules. Lifestyles of the Poor and Dangerous is one of my favs, his lyricism....another gone too soon :/

Way too soon. Another album or two and he would have given us a classic.

An example being how G-Side's Huntsville International was big overseas

getting european borks you've met on the internet to make you mixtapes != big overseas

hey you people who are saying anything other than "realest of the real" about 2Pac, it is not in my style to just go completely animal on a dude over his music taste, but fuckin please go revisit the following tracks

Life Goes On, Picture Me Rollin, Hit Em Up, Changes, California Love, Brenda's Got A Baby, his verse on Same Song, etc etc, Jesus God if there has ever been an MC to put more of his self & his heart into his jams I don't know who it was, how can you rep the west and not rep Pac all day, God damn it all Tupac Shakur til the day I DIE.

alright new drink one part alize one part cristal...guaranteed to get the pussy wet and the dick hard...thug passion baby

i find it too hard to choose between east + west. i love all the east coast classics and yeah there are probably more of them. i went through a period of my life where i'd listen to them back to back every day. but sometimes i'm surprised at how little i come back to that stuff these days. i have a feeling i dig out west coast classics more often actually.

then i just remembered that mobb deep exist

for dirty rap i got to say west coast...

but chronic 2001 is maybe my most listened to rap album o.a.f ARGFSDFSD

yeah i did listen the shit out of that one. not as much as biggie though

just went to look through my old rap records and put my beer down somewhere and now i can't find it grrrr

leave ur drink around my rap collection best believe ur drink gon get drunk up

i might vote west coast purely because i don't think my life would be the same without nate dogg

I don't find it that odd. 2pac had a handful of great singles (I Get Around, Hit Em Up, maybe California Love), but his overall output doesn't hold water against other iconic rappers. He was more style than substance.

― 'ello govna, Thursday, August 5, 2010 4:48 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ban

he was the most substantive rapper like ever

recent west coast records i like a lot

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i voted west because i listen to more of it right now, but i dont really know that i could actually say its better than east.

he was the most substantive rapper like ever

― blap...tremendo (deej), Thursday, August 5, 2010 7:57 PM (1 hour ago)

I don't know, he never did it for me. His music felt too slick. His production might have turned me off. Worth a revisit I suppose.

It always seemed to me that 2pac blew up because of his charisma and his legal controversies, rather than his music.

see i like rappers who are charismatic so

there's a tupac lyrics classes in berkeley university and UW where i assume everyone just stares at each other and talks about his charisma

like pimp c says rap *started* in the east, then the west did it a little better, then the south perfected it ---

then england polished it into the shining jewel we enjoy today

real lols

there's a tupac lyrics classes in berkeley university and UW where i assume everyone just stares at each other and talks about his charisma

― torch song trill o.g. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, August 5, 2010 9:16 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

he had lyrics dont get me rong. i just thought it was funny to criticize him for getting by on charisma

I voted for east even though I originally come from the south. I got wrapped up in that golden age of hip hop mystique when I was first getting into hip hop: Nas's Illmatic, A Tribe Called Quest discography, etc. I just moved to the West Coast and have already had my fill of Ice Cube and Dr. Dre blasting from UCLA students' cars and rooms. Hell, I barely even heard the Drake album here. I should probably blast Biggie's Ready to Die out of spite.

hey you people who are saying anything other than "realest of the real" about 2Pac, it is not in my style to just go completely animal on a dude over his music taste, but fuckin please go revisit the following tracks

Life Goes On, Picture Me Rollin, Hit Em Up, Changes, California Love, Brenda's Got A Baby, his verse on Same Song, etc etc, Jesus God if there has ever been an MC to put more of his self & his heart into his jams I don't know who it was, how can you rep the west and not rep Pac all day, God damn it all Tupac Shakur til the day I DIE.

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worrrd

personally, i'm preparing my noose for when east coast takes this 3 to 1 :(

he had lyrics dont get me rong. i just thought it was funny to criticize him for getting by on charisma

― blap...tremendo (deej), Thursday, August 5, 2010 10:29 PM (Yesterday)

Sure he had lyrics, and I get why people like him. His songs had a lot of emotion in them. But his rapping wasn't very good, and neither was his production. Being charismatic is a definite plus if you're a rapper, but rapping skills and production is more important. Snoop Dogg is charismatic, but I haven't messed with him since Doggystyle.

'oodbye govna

I never liked 2pac at all

But his rapping wasn't very good, and neither was his production.

wtf

k now even I don't agree with that. like tupac's not one of my favs but I love All Eyez on Me and Strictly 4 My Niggaz. dude could rap, his flow was pretty complex on later recordings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdX79pwyBII

all fucking time

there's a tupac lyrics classes in berkeley university and UW where i assume everyone just stares at each other and talks about his charisma

at 'berkeley university' at least this is a 1-unit not-actually-serious class taught by undergrads

I know I'm totally in the wrong, but I still think pac's verse on Digital Underground's "Same Song" is still like the best thing he ever did.

man that is a fire verse though, no question - feels like a guy goin "I'm just going to kick as much ass as I can on this track"

I've been listening to a lot of pac this morning just to revisit my thoughts on him. Like I said earlier, I get why people love him. This why I don't:

1. His voice - I just don't like the sound of it

2. His raps - He always sounds like he's in attack mode, even in his slower songs. He's always got the same flow going.

3. His beats - Not good on the early stuff. Later stuff is not my style at all, too early 90s r&b

3. His albums - Pretty standard complaint for rap albums, but they're full of filler.

I also have resentment towards him for starting the whole bullshit East/West beef thing to sell records, which ended up taking two lives.

Anyway, that's all I have to say about 2Pac before you all track me down :)

man that is a fire verse though

I don't have it memorized the way I do the "sweat drippin/girlies in the limo with the chicken" verse, though.

I also have resentment towards him for starting the whole bullshit East/West beef thing to sell records

lol waht

would be more appropriate to blame Suge Knight for all that shit

^^^^

it ain't as if Pac just woke up one day and said "for real, cuz, i ain't movin enough units, let me go fuck Faith Evans real quick that should help kickstart things..."

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Nb8DOoLyFwk/Ska8Ca60anI/AAAAAAAANWk/JTArNpVD_yI/s400/newhusalah.jpg

btw still lol'in at this cover - thx deej

would be more appropriate to blame Suge Knight for all that shit

― Party Car! (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, August 6, 2010 11:39 AM (1 minute ago)

Absolutely. Pac didn't really know what he was signing up for when he joined Death Row. But he did buy into the beef thing and perpetuate it.

it ain't as if Pac just woke up one day and said "for real, cuz, i ain't movin enough units, let me go fuck Faith Evans real quick that should help kickstart things..."

― DiMarcel Marceaupower (San Te), Friday, August 6, 2010 11:44 AM (38 seconds ago)

Of course it was marketing. Regardless of what you think of him, his career never kicked off until all of his street drama happened. The beef thing was part of his image.

btw still lol'in at this cover - thx deej

yes, need to check that out

nah, being in prison had more to do with it. Me Against the World debuted at #1, released while he was in prison, and only a mere few months after he was shot in the hotel, which largely started the Biggie/Pac feud. at that point it didn't have the legs yet that it'd have a year later.

his first big nat'l press came when Dan Quayle dissed him re: 2Pacalypse now playing in the car of some guy who shot a police officer

i remember Kurt Loder reporting about that on MTV at the time

I'm not a 2Pac stan or anything - never owned any of his stuff, his presence is ubiquitous in the Bay anyway - but I wouldn't deny his talents. at this point I just don't have to much interest in owning all his albums or anything. the tracks I do know are good, and agree w/Whiney that the "Same Song" verse is probably my favorite/the best of the stuff I do know.

do y'all file The Clipse as south rap or east coast?

crap coast

Clipse are borderline. They hail from the South, but their sound is a hybrid. The Neptunes produced for everyone for awhile, so I don't classify their sound with a particular region.

Shakey man I dig you from the posts in this thread but like if I were God lightning bolts'd be strikign all around you right now

though I'm mostly a Hell Hath No Fury fan

strictly lolz I don't hate the Clipse or anything just never got what the big deal was really

i'll admit I didn't get em when they first came out but back then I was sorta anti-minimalism in terms of beats

Good rhymes and ridiculous beats. At least as far as HHNF is concerned.

the lyricism is fab but those beats are otherworldly on that album.

so in conclusion the clipse >>> pac? xp

his rapping wasn't very good, and neither was his production.

rong and rong

the r&b-esque production he was employing worked best on All Eyez On Me I think....

the east is the foundation.

flaming garbage cans and goose down 4 life.

the east has my eternal respect & reverence, but the south has my heart. west has always been a bit patchy tbh, aside from a number of very notable (and obvious) exceptions.

rmde

Robust Minimum Density Estimators?

rollin my damn eyes at the west coast being 'patchy' -- theres tons of notable but not-obvious west coast underground shit

aceyaloney stoney homey dontcha know me

(forgot Freestyle Fellowship in my list)

xxp - sir, I am not going to argue with you. my observation was fleeting and subjective - I know well enough not to try to step to the ILX inner-circle of rap appreciation.

what is the opinion of one pappawheelie?

man this Big L album is hitting the spot this morning. production was fairly good, if not exceptional, but his flow and clever one-liners just permeate. some days I think people like Notorious B.I.G., Tupac, Big L, and company are really alive and living on an album, and were just scared to peak too soon.

sir, I am not going to argue with you. my observation was fleeting and subjective - I know well enough not to try to step to the ILX inner-circle of rap appreciation.

Don't be scerd! Disagreement is what starts discussion. (not trying to imply that I am part of said circle)

man i feel like tons of amazing nyc dudes are going unmentioned in this thread and it's bumming me out, people are way giving it the short shrift

pretty weird to me that control+F yield aceyalone and world class wreckin' cru and keak da sneak but not slick rick, redman, biz markie, masta ace, schooly d, beanie, freeway(philly is getting dissed here it's ridic), brand nubian, x-clan, poor righteous teachers, grand puba, naughty by nature, afrika bam, jungle brothers, mc lyte, audio 2, rob base, k-solo, CNN, tragedy, AZ, Cormega, BOOGIE DOWN, a million more...

well I was waiting for someone to make one of these posts. btw, feel free to throw up youtubes galore

haha just complaining between baby feedings!

btw the west coast is great, a lot of great stuff mentioned in this thread

also, no one is even talking about you know like the five, to what? seven years when hip hop pretty much existed ONLY in nyc...

i know i'm getting old and shit but i swear so much cool stuff is fading from the collective hip hop memory....like stezo is a helicopter....superlover cee and cassanova rud, ultramag, so much great stuff....

rollin my damn eyes at the west coast being 'patchy' -- theres tons of notable but not-obvious west coast underground shit

rolling your eyes at such a mild opinion is some boy-who-cried-wolf overuse of the eyeroll

how about you chill and let people have opinions that're diff from yours sometimes

sizzle

no one is even talking about you know like the five, to what? seven years when hip hop pretty much existed ONLY in nyc...

I mentioned this twice!

can we make this more about sharing rap? that'll help the voters, for one (Shakey, you've contributed plenty so that's not about you)!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq6AiG3qahs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZsaQWNoZYU

BEATNUTS

"Russian Rap" mean t.A.T.u, right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aktvOo5vj0E

Does west include Seattle and Vancouver?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj9-jaF-4OA

of course

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n13K5BWZBP4

OMG SIR MIX A LOT HAD OTHIER SONGS????

yes, great ones even!

My favorite Mix-A-Lot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDjmq913nkM

lol didn't he have one called Seattle Ain't Bullshittin'?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6rJkG1hiZY&feature=fvst

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX2vhSockUY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO4doGf7sZ8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYKbBkb8BSQ

voted west but it's really pretty much 50/50 for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGJSPQAfSUY&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2HQ7dkJfeo

rolling your eyes at such a mild opinion is some boy-who-cried-wolf overuse of the eyeroll

how about you chill and let people have opinions that're diff from yours sometimes

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if anyone but me posted it u would have cosigned. dudes who only know dr. dre & tupac and souls of mischief dissing the west coast deserves rmde & smh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAfIPoe8_1Q

i dont get it -- are we just posting any youtubes ever right now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99vmT7T5JNo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UTpuikhMGU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDow1lTQLJc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ypvro3hf6cU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BEAatxJfrk

cuz i can do this all day

if anyone but me posted it u would have cosigned. dudes who only know dr. dre & tupac and souls of mischief dissing the west coast deserves rmde & smh

dude you know how you imagine that people besides you are even paying any attention whatsoever to who's posting & worrying about whether they're continuing some meaningless beef or other? this is where you are wrong.

i dont actually even remember who posted that -- its just my deal to rail against generic received wisdom abt the west coast or puffy or tupac or whatever else

push comes to shove maybe my fav rap song ever

so thrilling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzcdmGINcqI

deej

even people who don't pay any attention whatsoever to rap know more about west coast hip hop than snoop & pac & nwa & cube & e40 & stones throw

your little kvlt section of the world is actually not kvlt or little

sorry

what a patchy selection of performers

They'll scroll out of sight soon enough. One man, one vote. That's what makes America great.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=XnXcd9fpxlE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV6CD36buKc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1YqJGLZgb8&feature=fvw

Mmmm hard question. I think east coast rappers have better lyrical ideas but west coast rappers tend to have the best use of beats and samples.

srsly tho, this is just posting videos from...all of rap? and we can't engage someone who thinks one coast is "patchy" excepting a few big names in comparison to another? if u don't wanna get rolled up on then don't make sweeping faux-omniscient statements u aren't prepared to back up.

back in jan i used to think it was kinda crappy that most rap was off in a sot of ghetto and wanted to make posts to open it up to the wider board & get generalists hearing shit &etc. but the more rap threads i read the more i saw a sort of blase kind of embarrassing treatment followed by mad defensiveness and shut-down if anyone dares point out it's kind of cringe-inducing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2UeKEmFJ34

srsly tho, this is just posting videos from...all of rap? LOL yeah

but the more rap threads i read the more i saw a sort of blase kind of embarrassing treatment followed by mad defensiveness and shut-down if anyone dares point out it's kind of cringe-inducing.

^^^

*sigh*

srsly tho, this is just posting videos from...all of rap?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsabHVqKE0E

^^2:20 answers the question "Who is the Nate Dogg of francophone rap?"

kvlt zing was pretty fucking good, imo

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

since I've started this poll I've been listening to almost exclusively dirty south, lol. don't think the results of this one will be too surprising

time to hang my noose :(

i did buy an E-40 album partially inspired by one of the clips you posted

In a Major Way, specifically

tbf to deej's arguments, i've never heard of the whoridas and so i was just another ignorant person voting for east coast raps.

don't forget to vote.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

that wasn't the trouncing I feared it might be, but I agree with the results. I'm assuming the OThers are probably "south".

if it was only rap in the 00s it would have to be south

y'know what's funny is since this poll, my vote wouldn't change, but it wouldn't be slam dunk either. really got into the west coast coke rap scene (sorry deej I KNOW IT ISN'T A SUBGENRE PER YOU) and plus the classic shit.

idk like I mean west coast shit has more of a place in my collection now. has anybody else changed course on this vote?

If I'd been in time I would've voted East. (Maybe because that's where I hail from? I don't know. I can't get behind much West Coast rap for sheer listening pleasure for some reason.)

I can't read this thread without turning into the Incredible Hulk.

i'm definitely not the Eastie-cum-South stan that I was. I bought just about every E-40 release on drop date in the early '10s lol.

playin Jacka today, as well.

YG earlier in the week.

things change

also I underrated tf out of Pac in this thread, jesus. I still can quote a huge chunk of All Eyez On Me. I played "Only God Can Judge Me" recently.

one of the local news channels did a documentary on “bay area rap” last year and one thing that struck me was a KMEL DJ saying that (generalization) east coast records were engineered more for headphone listening and west coast records were made for driving in cars, hence sonic differences...

I know... “duh”