The countdown is wrapping up now, and the full ocean (lake?) (cold lake?!) of stats will soon be made available...
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 13 August 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)
and i hand you over to my other glamorous assistant Glenn..
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)
where are Henry and his dumb master?
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Friday, 13 August 2010 19:57 (fifteen years ago)
someone ... someone said there'd be cake over here?
― total satan attitude (kkvgz), Friday, 13 August 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)
Godflesh – StreetcleanerCorrupted - El Mundo FrioBlack Sabbath - Master Of RealitySwans – CopGodflesh – PureNapalm Death - From Enslavement To ObliterationBlack Sabbath – s/tSwans - Children of GodSlayer - Reign in BloodCorrupted - Llenandose De GusanosEnvy - All the Footprints You've Ever Left and the Fear Expecting AheadThe Angelic Process - Weighing Souls With SandNapalm Death – ScumThe Obsessed - The ObsessedBolt Thrower - Realm of ChaosBlack Sabbath – ParanoidThe Stooges - FunhouseElectric Wizard - Witchcult TodayBlack Sabbath - Vol IVCeltic Frost - To Mega TherionNeurosis - Through Silver In BloodElectric Wizard - Come My FanaticsMotörhead - No Sleep 'til HammersmithTad - God's BallsCorrupted - Se Hace Por Los Suenos AsesinosFudge - Tunnel - Hate Songs In E-MinorMotörhead - Ace of SpadesElectric Wizard – DopethroneIsis – CelestialSleep – DopesmokerCandlemass - Epicus Doomicus MetallicusEarth - The Bees Made Honey in the Lion's SkullWolves In The Throne Room - Diadem Of 12 StarsNeurosis - Given To The RisingGrief – DismalMotörhead – BomberTorche – MeanderthalBlut Aus Nord - memoria vetusta II: dialogue with the starsCarcass - Symphonies of SicknessSleep - Holy MountainThin Lizzy - Live and DangerousCeltic Frost - Into the PandemoniumDischarge - Hear Nothing See Nothing Say NothingKhanate – Things ViralThe Young Gods - L'eau RougeSlayer - South of HeavenIron Maiden - Live After DeathBolt Thrower - In Battle There Is No LawCarcass - Reek of PutrefactionKatatonia - Discouraged Ones
― Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:01 (fifteen years ago)
Is lack of Bolt Thrower maybe the most surprising thing in the poll?
― Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)
Mock away:
Orphaned Land - MaboolBlack Sabbath - s/tSystem of a Down - ToxicityIron Maiden - Number of the BeastQueens of the Stone Age - Songs for the DeafDistorted - Voices from WithinDisturbed - The SicknessKyuss - Blues for the Red SunAmaseffer - Slaves for LifeMastodon - LeviathanDio - Holy DiverEluveitie - Evocation IStrapping Young Lad - SYLEntombed - Wolverine BluesAnthrax - Among the LivingJamie Saft - Black ShabbisGuns n' Roses - Appetite for DestructionIggy and the Stooges - Raw PowerIron Maiden - PowerslaveLed Zeppelin - Physical GraffitiLinkin Park - Hybrid TheoryManowar - Fighting the WorldAlice in Chains - DirtAerosmith - Toys in the AtticAC/DC - Highway to HellSkyclad - A Burnt Offering for the Bone IdolVan Halen - 1984Tool - LateralusThe Mars Volta - De-Loused in the ComatoriumThe Stooges - FunhouseAtheist - Unquestionable PresenceBaroness - Blue RecordAndrew W.K. - I Get WetAt the Drive-In - Relationship Of CommandMastodon - Crack the SkyeBurzum - FilosofemKiss - DestroyerNirvana - NevermindMetallica - Master of PuppetsOrphaned Land - The Never Ending Way of ORWarriORPearl Jam - TenConverge - Jane DoeDark Tranquility - The GalleryBlack Sabbath - Master of RealityMoonsorrow - VerisakeetMotley Crue - Shout at the DevilNine Inch Nails - The Downward SpiralRage Against the Machine - Evil EmpireSmashing Pumpkins - Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
― Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)
when I submitted this, I'd forgotten that I hate Axl Rose
Tool - UndertowRush - 2112Mr. Bungle - s/tNine Inch Nails - The Downward SpiralTool - AenimaA Perfect Circle - Thirteenth StepRush - A Farewell To KingsMinistry - Land Of Rape & HoneyLed Zeppelin - IVJanes Addiction - Ritual De Lo HabitualTool - LateralusRush - Moving picturesNine Inch Nails - BrokenLiving Colour - VividMarilyn Manson - Mechanical AnimalsJanes Addiction - Nothings ShockingFishbone - Truth And SoulSmashing Pumpkins - GishIron Maiden - PowerslavePrimus - Frizzle FryAnthrax - Among The LivingSmashing Pumpkins - Siamese DreamAerosmith - Toys In The AtticNirvana - NevermindBad Brains - I Against IA Perfect Circle - mer de nomsEmperor - Anthems To The Welkin At DuskTherion - TeliFaith No More - The Real ThingGuns’n’Roses - Appetite For DestructionRush - HemispheresLed Zeppelin - IIPrimus - Sailing The Seas Of CheeseAnthrax - Spreading The DiseaseAC/DC - Back In BlackBon Jovi - Slippery When WetDef Leppard - HysteriaWhite Zombie - Astrocreep 2000Pearl Jam - TenPearl Jam - VitalogyThe Cult - ElectricFaith No More - Angel DustOpeth - Blackwater ParkMinistry - The Mind Is a Terrible Thing to TasteFront Line Assembly - MilleniumKiss - DestroyerRush - Permanent Waves
― How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)
Here's my ballot - stuff that didn't place in bold:
1. Black Sabbath - s/t2. Judas Priest - Sad Wings of Destiny3. AC/DC - High Voltage4. Led Zeppelin - III5. Hawkwind - Space Ritual6. Van Halen - Van Halen (1978)7. Thin Lizzy - Live and Dangerous8. Alice Cooper - Billion Dollar Babies9. Motörhead - No Sleep 'til Hammersmith10. Scorpions - In Trance11. Iron Maiden - Live After Death12. Black Sabbath - Master Of Reality13. Judas Priest - Sin After Sin14. Slade - Slayed?15. Def Leppard - High 'N' Dry16. Motley Crue - Too Fast For Love17. Aerosmith - Rocks18. Guns’n’Roses - Appetite For Destruction19. Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti20. Thin Lizzy - Jailbreak21. Alcest - Souvenirs d'un Autre Monde22. Yob - The Great Cessation23. Celtic Frost - Monotheist24. Flower Travellin' Band - Satori25. Iron Maiden - Killers26. Cinderella - Long Cold Winter27. Agalloch - Ashes Against The Grain28. Earth - The Bees Made Honey in the Lion's Skull29. Electric Wizard - Dopethrone30. Ratt - Ratt EP31. Nazareth - Loud 'N' Proud32. Ufomammut - Snailking33. Scorpions - Taken By Force34. Rush - 211235. Cathedral - The Guessing Game36. Faith No More - Angel Dust37. Van Halen - Women and Children First38. The Angelic Process - Weighing Souls With Sand39. Spirit Caravan – Jug Fulla Sun40. Opeth - Ghost Reveries41. Primordial - To the Nameless Dead42. Witchcraft - Witchcraft43. Ulver - Shadows Of The Sun44. Deep Purple - Fireball45. Riot - Fire Down Under46. Danzig - Danzig I 47. Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus 48. Electric Wizard - Witchcult Today 49. Metallica - Master of Puppets 50. Sleep - Dopesmoker
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)
marvel at the falseness
Van Halen - Van Halen (1978)Def Leppard - HysteriaAerosmith - RocksKilling Joke - Killing JokeSlayer - Seasons in the AbyssDanzig - Danzig IMegadeth - Peace Sells...But Who's Buyin?AC/DC - Highway to HellThe Cult - ElectricIron Maiden - The Number of the Beast
Faith No More - Angel DustGuns’n’Roses - Appetite For DestructionQuiet Riot - mental healthAndrew WK - I Get WetIggy and the Stooges - Raw PowerDef Leppard - PyromaniaRush - Permanent WavesZZ Top - EliminatorBlack Sabbath - ParanoidRush - Moving pictures
Helmet - MeantimeLed Zeppelin - Houses of The HolyVan Halen - 1984Anthrax - Among The LivingJanes Addiction - Nothings ShockingVan Halen - Fair WarningJudas Priest - British SteelS.O.D. - Speak English or DieMinistry - The Mind Is a Terrible Thing to TasteVoivod - Nothingface
Cinderella - Night SongsRatt - Out of the CellarTesla - Mechanical ResonanceVoivod - Angel RatDeftones - Around The FurMelvins - HoudiniProng - CleansingLed Zeppelin - IVDokken - Under Lock and KeyMetallica - Master of Puppets
Motörhead - No Sleep 'til HammersmithQueens of the Stone Age - Songs for the DeafOzzy Osbourne – Diary of a MadmanSaint Vitus - Born Too LateThe Accused - Martha Splatterhead's Maddest Stories Ever Told
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)
Black Sabbath - Master Of RealityBlue Oyster Cult - Tyranny And MutationBlack Sabbath - Vol IVMontrose - Montrose AC/DC - PowerageBlack Sabbath - Never Say DieRush - 2112Black Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath Blue Oyster Cult - Secret TreatiesFunkadelic - Standing On The Verge Of Getting It On Iron Maiden - PowerslaveAlice Cooper - Love It to DeathDeep Purple - Made in JapanMegadeth - Rust In PeaceZZ Top - Tres Hombres UFO - Strangers in the NightSlayer - South of HeavenDeep Purple - In RockMotörhead - No Sleep 'til HammersmithAlice Cooper - KillerBlack Sabbath - Mob RulesBudgie - In For The KillPantera - Cowboys From HellAlice Cooper - Billion Dollar BabiesBlack Sabbath - Born AgainCaptain Beyond - Captain BeyondBoston - BostonBlackSabbath - Sabotage Blue Oyster Cult - Agents of FortuneHigh on Fire - Blessed Black WingsTrouble - TroubleBlack Sabbath - s/tRainbow - Rising
― Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)
The Stooges - FunhouseLed Zeppelin - IVAerosmith - RocksGuns’n’Roses - Appetite For DestructionFunkadelic - Maggot BrainLed Zeppelin - Physical GraffitiIggy and the Stooges - Raw PowerMotörhead - No Sleep 'til HammersmithAC/DC - PowerageBlack Sabbath - SabotageLed Zeppelin - Houses of The HolyAerosmith - Toys In The AtticMotörhead - OrgasmatronAC/DC - Let There Be RockLed Zeppelin - IIIKid Rock - Devil Without a CauseMinistry - Psalm 69Black Sabbath - Master Of RealityMotörhead - OverkillBlack Sabbath - ParanoidLed Zeppelin - IIVan Halen - Women and Children FirstAC/DC - For Those About to RockBurzum - FilosofemLed Zeppelin - In Through The Out DoorMC5 - Kick Out The JamsMotörhead - Iron FistBoston - BostonLed Zeppelin - Led ZeppelinMonster Magnet - PowertripType O Negative - Bloody KissesMotörhead - Ace of SpadesAC/DC - Dirty Deeds Done Dirt CheapKiss - Alive!Deep Purple - In RockMetallica - Metallica (The Black Album)King Crimson - RedVan Halen - 1984Led Zeppelin - PresenceBlack Sabbath - s/tDeep Purple - Machine HeadKiss - KissQueen - News of the WorldTed Nugent - Double Live Gonzo!Blue Cheer - Vincebus EruptumRainbow - RisingJudas Priest - Sin After SinLinkin Park - Hybrid TheoryBlack Sabbath - Born AgainIron Maiden - Killers
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)
Blue Oyster Cult - Secret TreatiesBlack Sabbath - ParanoidRush - HemispheresBlack Sabbath - Vol IVRainbow - RisingJudas Priest - Sad Wings of DestinyQueen - IIRush - Permanent WavesVoivod - Angel RatSlayer - Reign in BloodRush - Moving PicturesBlack Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody SabbathBlue Oyster Cult - Tyranny And MutationAngel Witch - s/tVenom – Welcome To HellRush - A Farewell To KingsBlack Sabbath - Master Of RealityQueen - Sheer Heart AttackAlice Cooper - KillerBoston - BostonUFO - Strangers in the NightThin Lizzy - JailbreakVoivod – NothingfaceBlue Oyster Cult - Blue Oyster CultMontrose - MontroseSwans - Children of GodRush - 2112Thin Lizzy - Johnny the FoxVenom - Black MetalHigh Tide - Sea ShantiesAC/DC - Let There Be RockThin Lizzy - Bad ReputationAlice Cooper - Love It to DeathCaptain Beyond - Captain BeyondZeni Geva – Total CastrationBlue Cheer - Vincebus EruptumHawkwind - Warrior On The Edge Of TimeDiamond Head - Lightning To The NationsVan Halen - Van Halen (1978)Black Widow - SacrificeMotorhead - No Sleep 'til HammersmithJudas Priest - Sin After SinArmageddon - ArmageddonBlack Sabbath - Never Say DieThe Young Gods - L'eau RougeIron Maiden - Iron MaidenMelvins - OzmaBudgie - BudgieManowar - Sign of the HammerUriah Heep - Salisbury
― the same relation to machines as that which machines have to man (Matt #2), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)
Led Zeppelin - IVGuns’n’Roses - Appetite For DestructionJanes Addiction - Ritual De Lo HabitualLed Zeppelin - IIIManic Street Preachers - Gold Against The SoulNirvana - NevermindManic Street Preachers - The Holy BibleNirvana - In UteroLed Zeppelin - Led ZeppelinPearl Jam - Yield
Led Zeppelin - Houses of The HolyAt The Drive-In - Relationship Of CommandLed Zeppelin - In Through The Out DoorLed Zeppelin - PresenceBon Jovi - Slippery When WetLed Zeppelin - Physical GraffitiLinkin Park - Hybrid TheoryManic Street Preachers - Generation TerroristsFaith No More - Angel DustGuns 'N Roses - Lies
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese DreamAC/DC - Back In BlackPearl Jam - VsMetallica - Metallica (The Black Album)MC5 - Kick Out The JamsIggy and the Stooges - Raw PowerDef Leppard - HysteriaMarilyn Manson - Mechanical AnimalsEvanescence - FallenLed Zeppelin - II
Marilyn Manson - Antichrist SuperstarSmashing Pumpkins - Gish
The ones that missed out are in bold. I stalled at 32.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)
Matt #2 with a killer ballot.
― Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)
Not sure why I rated Never Say Die ahead of the debut and Sabotage, in retrospect.
― the same relation to machines as that which machines have to man (Matt #2), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)
you guys were supposed to wait on the ballots until glenn posted the stats
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)
I have Never Say Die at #6 ahead of both as well, and dont regret it for a second.
― Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, August 13, 2010 4:26 PM (9 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
all these fucking rules. it's supposed to be metal, man.
Top 300 rules recap please
― Chaim Poutine (NickB), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:29 (fifteen years ago)
We have to vote on the rules in a separate poll.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)
Let's vote on the rules. Either Emperor or Boris will win.
― Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)
Wallow in the numbers:
https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:34 (fifteen years ago)
Guns’n’Roses - Appetite For DestructionNirvana - In UteroConverge - Jane DoeMelvins - LysolSunn O))) - Monoliths And DimensionsConverge - You Fail MeBoris - At Last - FeedbackerBlack Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody SabbathPearl Jam - VitalogyFunkadelic - Maggot BrainMelvins - HoudiniElectric Wizard - DopethroneBlack Sabbath - ParanoidSunn O))) - Black OneDeftones - Around The FurLed Zeppelin - Physical GraffitiPrimus - Sailing The Seas Of CheeseBoris - PinkManic Street Preachers - The Holy BiblePearl Jam - VsBoris - Heavy RocksGuns N' Roses - Use Your Illusion 2Melvins - BullheadEarth - Earth 2Kyuss - Welcome To Sky ValleyNirvana - NevermindFunkadelic - Standing On The Verge Of Getting It OnBlack Sabbath - Master Of RealitySunn O))) - Flight of the BehemothKilling Joke - Killing JokeElectric Wizard - Come My FanaticsSleep - Holy MountainKyuss - Blues For The Red SunElectric Wizard - Witchcult TodayGuns N' Roses - Use Your Illusion 1At The Drive-In - Relationship Of CommandConverge - Axe To fallRage Against the Machine - Evil EmpireSleep - DopesmokerDeftones - White Pony
― gman59, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:37 (fifteen years ago)
holy shit, as usual the stats are incredibly detailed and i really can't imagine how much time you must have spent working on them
― Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:41 (fifteen years ago)
https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Mordy+Metal lolololololol
― Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)
Ha, I'm #15 false metal voter even though that includes ZENI GEVA you morons
― the same relation to machines as that which machines have to man (Matt #2), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)
Also (black metal) love to the 3 people here for voted for Black Shabbis with me: https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&thread=%405961.%5BPoints+·+Votes%5D%3A%231%3A%231%3A%231%3A%231.key+Votes%3A%231.nodes
― Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:43 (fifteen years ago)
Woah, since when is Dark Tranquility false metal?
― Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:44 (fifteen years ago)
We need Joey DeMaio here to tell us, if he's finished buying broccoli for his mum anyway
― the same relation to machines as that which machines have to man (Matt #2), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:46 (fifteen years ago)
I have a false metal contention to be dealt with!
― Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:46 (fifteen years ago)
Tracks full listAlbums Full listArtist winners
Voter Centricity
Voter Similarity
My Link Title
Album Kvltosis
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:47 (fifteen years ago)
If its not on Metal Archives = False Metal
Ranking of FALSE METAL VOTERS
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:48 (fifteen years ago)
and yes we spent weeks on the stats, i had ideas glenn fulfilled them Everyone thank Glenn for everything!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:49 (fifteen years ago)
Um hello?
www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=8
― Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:50 (fifteen years ago)
omg these stats are the funniest thing in the world
― How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)
Mordy, it's fixed now
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:52 (fifteen years ago)
I can't believe I wasn't the falsest of false! I demand a recount.
― emil.y, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)
lol, 85th out of 90 on centricity
― How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)
(By the way, this is AWESOME)
― emil.y, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:54 (fifteen years ago)
How is individual voter falsity calculated? It doesn't look like it's just based on quantity -- did you guys somehow distinguish between varying levels of falseness?
― Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:54 (fifteen years ago)
i am the no. 10 metal infidel of ilx. hurrah!
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:56 (fifteen years ago)
lol #5 on the falseness chart
― How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:57 (fifteen years ago)
Checked metal archives, if it wasn't on there it was false. Took me a whole day to check Metal Archives and then add the tags. and glenn tabulated it in 10 seconds by just tabulating only stuff with the false tag
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:57 (fifteen years ago)
also the ballots closest to mine were some dude and... Johnny Fever!
cripes sake, mordy - take your falseness like a man, will ya?
xps
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Friday, 13 August 2010 20:59 (fifteen years ago)
I am the highest voter for the genre 'WTF'. Hurrah!
― emil.y, Friday, 13 August 2010 20:59 (fifteen years ago)
I will protest my falseness with my last breath!
― Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)
lol John and I representing for Frizzle Fry
― How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)
kvltosis top 10 is fantastic:
Led Zeppelin · PresenceRush · Permanent WavesBoston · BostonRush · Moving PicturesMotörhead · OverkillBlue Öyster Cult · Agents of FortuneTool · AenimaThe Cult · ElectricRush · 2112Led Zeppelin · Houses of the Holy
― How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:06 (fifteen years ago)
This is the first ILX poll where I'm not in the farthest circles of centricity. Being part of the masses feels... dirty. Whose Kent? he's the only person with whom I have more than 40% similarity. Glad Johnny & Nate are right there, too.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 13 August 2010 21:06 (fifteen years ago)
Here is the album poll retabulated without any of the voters who voted for Black Sabbath or Led Zeppelin, to see what the anti-classicists like. "Non-BSLZ%" shows this as a percentage of the album's total votes, and the Non-BS/Non-LZ columns show counts and percentages from excluding either band's supporters one at a time. Click the arrows in the column headings to sort by any column.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:08 (fifteen years ago)
so you can see what LZ fans like but sabbath fans dont and vice versa, as well as what ppl who didnt vote for either what they voted for.Use the arrows in the columns!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:11 (fifteen years ago)
Check the album results by Genre
Black Metal
DEATH METAL
DOOM METAL
HEAVY METAL
HEAVY ROCK
DRONE METAL
FOLK METAL
GRINDCORE
HAIR METAL
STONER METAL
SLUDGE METAL
THRASH METAL
GRUNGE
INDUSTRIAL METAL
You can see the other by genre results too, use the menu on the left.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:15 (fifteen years ago)
So JF finally gets his all hair metal list!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:16 (fifteen years ago)
FAALSE METAL FULL LIST (there used to be a link here but it was wrong)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:17 (fifteen years ago)
wait, how is Rush "false metal"
― How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:17 (fifteen years ago)
hahaahahaha sleepy time gorilla
― Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:19 (fifteen years ago)
OOPSThis is the link to the False Metal List
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:19 (fifteen years ago)
Dan can you delete that first link please?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:20 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELyco68w5ks
Bill, these guys aren't cuddlestein mountain fun time or anything
― How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:23 (fifteen years ago)
drackennecrophina9 months ago 45Never have I seen so much metal when watching people do laundry and eat dinner.
Never have I seen so much metal when watching people do laundry and eat dinner.
― How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:25 (fifteen years ago)
You cant reason with Bill.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:26 (fifteen years ago)
Is everyone checking out the results genre by genre?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:27 (fifteen years ago)
HAAAA YES! #1 false metal voter! I am so proud right now.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 13 August 2010 21:27 (fifteen years ago)
If you guys are taking stat-crunching requests, I'd love to see falsity cross-tabulated against centricity to get an idea of how false ILX metal is in general.
― Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 21:30 (fifteen years ago)
KISS is false?
i. just. don't. know. what. to. say. to. that. :-(
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:32 (fifteen years ago)
Can somebody tell me how to scroll down on that needle thing? I must be missing something.
― Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:32 (fifteen years ago)
hahahaha:
Shit · 1 in group1 · Linkin Park · Faint 70 · 2
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 13 August 2010 21:34 (fifteen years ago)
What's Faint 70?
― Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 21:35 (fifteen years ago)
Here is the album poll retabulated without the voters who voted for more than 10% False Metal. "True Points" shows this alternate score, and "True%" is that as a percentage of the album's total points.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:36 (fifteen years ago)
Kyuss is the truest metal album of all time SURPRISE
― Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 21:37 (fifteen years ago)
Everyone enjoying the stats?
Bill are you using firefox?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:40 (fifteen years ago)
no, im at work, Windows Internet Explorer.
― Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:41 (fifteen years ago)
It was nice that I was voted Truest Metal Voter. THanks guys.
Faint's the track, it scored 70 points. It's damn good too, ignore cheap zings.
Seriously, this whole setup is magnificent and the poll was epic, thanks a million!
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 13 August 2010 21:41 (fifteen years ago)
iz grate. thanx y'all! \m/
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:42 (fifteen years ago)
ahh bill there's your problem right there
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:43 (fifteen years ago)
If you have any questions, then I can try to answer them, if I cant, glenn can do it later.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:50 (fifteen years ago)
i am the no. 1 heavy rocker! cool.
https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&thread=%4015519&typeId=9149585060559937628&render=List
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:55 (fifteen years ago)
what weight are you?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 21:58 (fifteen years ago)
btw, who are the BM brigade?
https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&thread=%4015495&typeId=9149585060559937628&render=List
xp
95 kilos - pretty fookin' 'eavy!
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Friday, 13 August 2010 22:03 (fifteen years ago)
fuck knows. i want cronos smith to reveal thyself. that name cracked me up.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 22:06 (fifteen years ago)
Alright. Some Dude. Glad someone else still cares about Appetite for Destruction as much as I do. They were my first "favorite band". Some of those songs don't even feel like somebody wrote them. It's like they were just always there. Glad it did well along with most of the albums that I voted for. I've been getting in to a lot of bands that i haven't heard before due to this. Ulver is unbelievable. I really like the recent stuff. And Boris "Flood". I love them but had never heard that album. It's slowly becoming my favorite. Thanks everyone who put this poll together.
― gman59, Friday, 13 August 2010 22:30 (fifteen years ago)
you're welcome gman, i hope you enjoy discovering lots more in the list!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 22:38 (fifteen years ago)
Here is my ballot, I forgot to post it. 2nd column is the position the album finished.Black Sabbath - Vol IV 1Kyuss - Welcome To Sky Valley 7Saint Vitus - Born Too Late 9Trouble - Psalm 9 27The Obsessed - The Obsessed 25Corrupted - Llenandose De Gusanos 34Corrupted - Se Hace Por Los Suenos Asesinos 72Electric Wizard - Dopethrone 6Queens Of The Stone Age - S/t 22Kyuss - Blues For The Red Sun 15Janes Addiction - Nothings Shocking 160Mastodon - Remission 46Converge - Jane Doe 30Queens of the Stone Age - Songs for the Deaf 68Nirvana - In Utero 21Alice In Chains - Dirt 106Isis - Oceanic 91Warning - From A Distance 214Helmet - Meantime 133Corrupted - El Mundo Frio 28Faith No More - Angel Dust 85Boris - Absolutego 29Neurosis - Through Silver In Blood 65Fudge Tunnel - Hate Songs In E-Minor 144Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger 90Harvey Milk - Courtesy And Good Will Toward Men 26Metallica - Ride The Lightning 3Sleep - Dopesmoker 16Manilla Road - Crystal Logic 38The Lord Weird Slough Feg - Down Among The Deadmen 40Turbonegro - Apocalypse Dudes 81Celtic Frost - Monotheist 12Yob - Catharsis 35Screaming Trees - Sweet Oblivion 175Screaming Trees - Dust 195Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden 24The Young Gods - L'eau Rouge 197Weakling - Dead As Dreams 522Agalloch - Ashes Against The Grain 53Boris - Heavy Rocks 55Melvins - Houdini 158Godflesh - Streetcleaner 122Burning Witch - Crippled Lucifer 96High on Fire - Blessed Black Wings 50Goatsnake - Flower Of Disease 232Cobalt - Gin 173Eyehategod - Dopesick 78Reverend Bizarre - In the Rectory of the Bizarre Reverend 32Entombed - Wolverine Blues 80Flower Travellin' Band - Satori 232
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 23:22 (fifteen years ago)
Only one record -- Weakling -- didn't make the top 300? Wow.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 13 August 2010 23:26 (fifteen years ago)
My Ballot:
Thin Lizzy – FightingBlack Sabbath - ParanoidJudas Priest - Sad Wings of DestinyElectric Wizard - Come My FanaticsVenom - Black MetalMelvins – HoudiniIron Maiden - The Number of the BeastDarkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern SkyBlack Sabbath - Master Of RealityWitchfinder General - Death PenaltyPentagram - Pentagram (Relentless)Yob - Elaborations of CarbonAgalloch - From Which of This OakSleep – DopesmokerMelvins – StagAndrew WK - I Get WetPentagram - Day of ReckoningSleepytime Gorilla Museum - Of Natural HistorySlayer - Reign in BloodJudas Priest - Screaming for VengeanceDissection - Storm Of The Light's BaneCandlemass - Epicus Doomicus MetallicusThe Misfits - Static AgeDimmu Borgir - Enthrone Darkness TriumphantRush – 2112Limbonic Art - In Abhorrence DementiaIron Maiden – PowerslaveThin Lizzy - Johnny the FoxCoroner - Punishment for DecadenceLed Zeppelin – IVSaint Vitus - Born Too LateMinistry - The Mind Is a Terrible Thing to TasteCarcass – SwansongJudas Priest - Sin After SinAgalloch - Pale FolkloreBlue Oyster Cult - Secret TreatiesDanzig - Danzig II (Lucifuge)Hawkwind - Space RitualSuicidal Tendencies - Suicidal TendenciesAutopsy - Mental FuneralAt The Gates - Slaughter Of The SoulBorknagar - OriginNecrophagia - Seasons of the DeadAutopsy - Acts of the UnspeakableExhumed - Platters of SplatterTrouble - Psalm 9Angel Witch - S/TRatt - Out of the CellarSunn O))) - Flight of the BehemothUfomammut – Snailking
― Without warning, a wizard walks by. (Viceroy), Friday, 13 August 2010 23:27 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, was gutted that didn't make it. was nowhere near the top 300 :(
Other people got way better results than me tho (esp those who voted sabbath & zep haha)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 23:29 (fifteen years ago)
mind you, i think most people who voted probably got all their albums in the top 300 haha
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 23:30 (fifteen years ago)
I was only #23 in voter centricity https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Voter+Centricityso 22 people did better than I did.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 23:31 (fifteen years ago)
just before anyone shouts fix
yeah i gave up highlighting the ones on my list that placed -- most of them did.
― Green Manalishi (Viceroy), Friday, 13 August 2010 23:34 (fifteen years ago)
it was a top 300, ppl be better off highlighting the few that didn't.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 23:38 (fifteen years ago)
Bolded stuff didn't place, obvs.
Metallica - ...And Justice for AllD.R.I - Dealing With ItDeath - Scream Bloody GoreEntombed - Left Hand PathFaith No More - The Real ThingJanes Addiction - Ritual De Lo HabitualDeicide - LegionBlack Sabbath - ParanoidBlack Sabbath - s/tMegadeth - Rust In PeaceAnthrax - Persistence Of TimeMinistry - Land Of Rape & HoneyCeltic Frost - To Mega TherionA Perfect Circle - mer de nomsMotley Crue - Shout at the DevilLudicra – Fex Urbis Lex OrbisAgalloch - Ashes Against The GrainDarkthrone - Under A Funeral Moon (actually meant to vote for Transilvanian Hunger)Thin Lizzy - JailbreakTool - AenimaBoston – BostonNine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral
Albums I acquired/reacquired through the course of the polls:
High on Fire - Blessed Black WingsSepultura - Chaos A.D.Megadeth - Rust in PeaceCoronor - No More Color (not in the poll, but badass)Diamond Head - Lightning to the NationsJudas Priest - Sad Wings of DestinySlough Feg - TravellerDrudkh - Autumn DoucheThe Obsessed - Lunar WombSarcofago - Laws of ScourgeSlayer - Show No Mercy (not in the poll)
I look forward to going back over this and scrounging for more metal too. Good times, guys.
― total satan attitude (kkvgz), Friday, 13 August 2010 23:43 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks for the stats. Kind of funny that only two people had the #1 album as their #1 vote (me and Herman, hey). Thanks for the poll too! Metal's not really a genre that I think about or follow all that much, so plenty of new-to-me stuff to check...
― Chaim Poutine (NickB), Friday, 13 August 2010 23:54 (fifteen years ago)
I wonder if anyone actually picked the whole top 10? Must ask glenn about that.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 00:01 (fifteen years ago)
No, nobody got the whole top 10, but Neil S got the top 9, and then flubbed it by missing Emperor. Here's a page for everybody who got at least 5 of the top 10.
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 14 August 2010 00:48 (fifteen years ago)
did he have Burzum? Cuz that got kicked out at the last min thanks to j3ff t
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 00:49 (fifteen years ago)
why am i asking, i have the damn ballots here
and he didnt
I only placed 32 out of 50 in the top 300.
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 14 August 2010 00:57 (fifteen years ago)
stats site is fucking awesome, i am and have always been a huge fan of what glenn does. also fucking psyched to be in the top 10 falsest. my ballot:
Guns’n’Roses - Appetite For DestructionLed Zeppelin - IVThin Lizzy - JailbreakKix - KixAC/DC - Back In BlackSoundgarden - SuperunknownMetallica - Metallica (The Black Album)Led Zeppelin - IIBlack Sabbath - ParanoidMotley Crue - Dr. FeelgoodNine Inch Nails - The Downward SpiralSmashing Pumpkins - Siamese DreamSoundgarden - BadmotorfingerSystem of a Down - s/tPrimus - Sailing The Seas Of CheeseLimp Bizkit - Chocolate Starfish And The Hot Dog Flavored WaterAerosmith - PumpThin Lizzy - Bad ReputationLed Zeppelin - PresenceSystem Of A Down - Mezmerize
― some dude, Saturday, 14 August 2010 01:01 (fifteen years ago)
EZ Snappin, that is AMAZINGLY high for you!!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 01:03 (fifteen years ago)
I know! I said I was surprised and a little uncomfortable in the middle of the pack instead of the fringes. All these people around me... I need space!
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 14 August 2010 01:03 (fifteen years ago)
Mordy: Needle doesn't do regression analysis yet, but I just ran a quick one offline comparing Centricity and Falsity, and the correlation was fairly weak. But the voters as a set would rank 36th on the falsity list, and as the Genre Ranking shows, False Metal was the 5th ranked genre (of 14 major ones). So that's pretty False.
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 14 August 2010 01:04 (fifteen years ago)
EZ Snappin welcome to the ilm metal hivemind!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 01:06 (fifteen years ago)
Oh, and I just added voter-rankings by the number of their albums that made the top 10, top 100 and top 300. Nobody got 50 albums into the top 100; Per had 45 and S Holloway had 40. James D had only 2. 8 voters got all 50 albums into the top 300, and at the other end, Some Dude had the lowest top-300 count with 12.
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 14 August 2010 01:08 (fifteen years ago)
some dude only voted for 15 tho!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 01:09 (fifteen years ago)
20, actually. But two of those were Kix and Sailing the Seas of Cheese, so yeah, that should only count as 15.
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 14 August 2010 01:16 (fifteen years ago)
He's an honorary falser!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 01:21 (fifteen years ago)
Massive xposts but I think I voted for Bolt Thrower...
I'm enjoying the genre lists which I think Herman posted somewhere upthread. Especially the thrash metal list, that totally kicks ass all the way down.
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 14 August 2010 01:31 (fifteen years ago)
The Genre By Genre listscan be found at the bottom. You may have to click on it to expand the dropdown menu.
It looks like#http://i38.tinypic.com/fkp0tj.jpg
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 01:37 (fifteen years ago)
Here's a link to the black metal one. The rest are below ithttps://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Black+Metal
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 01:39 (fifteen years ago)
Totally happy to be the fourth falsest voter, though I do not understand why Headgirl is "false" if both Motorhead and Girlschool are "true" metal...
It is hard to take seriously a hard rock poll where not one of the 1970s Scorpions LPs makes it into the top 300. Fuckers.
― Kent Burt, Saturday, 14 August 2010 01:50 (fifteen years ago)
There's Kent - my nearest voter in centricity. Probably because of the Scorpions you mentioned. Philistines, the whole lot of 'em.
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 14 August 2010 01:54 (fifteen years ago)
Kent, if it wasn't on http://www.metal-archives.com/index.php it was labelled false.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 01:56 (fifteen years ago)
Where do I see the list of voters by falseness?
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 14 August 2010 02:00 (fifteen years ago)
False Metal Voters
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 14 August 2010 02:03 (fifteen years ago)
Hey 38th I guess I am metal after all
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 14 August 2010 02:04 (fifteen years ago)
Ahh... Still...
EZ, looks like we voted for a lot of similar things... Big ups!
― Kent Burt, Saturday, 14 August 2010 02:06 (fifteen years ago)
I'm 47th!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 02:07 (fifteen years ago)
https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Album+Winners check out the full list everyone
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 02:32 (fifteen years ago)
Oh, and the other ranking the Needle version has is a consolidated Album+Track Artist chart. To me this is probably the most interesting end-product of the poll, or at least the one that seems to me to represent the most consensus. Some of the bafflingly low album placements, for example (Judas Priest perhaps most dramatically), make more sense when grouped by artist to show both aggregate support and how it was fractured. The list still starts with BS/LZ/Metallica this way, but then gets more intriguing...
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 14 August 2010 03:18 (fifteen years ago)
is that your fave stat?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 03:52 (fifteen years ago)
Black Sabbath - s/tLed Zeppelin - Led ZeppelinSleepytime Gorilla Museum - Of Natural HistoryUlver - Blood InsideSepultura - chaos a.dSlayer - Reign in BloodMetallica - Master of PuppetsMr. Bungle - s/tMinistry - Land Of Rape & HoneyPrimus - Frizzle FryAnthrax - Among The LivingMegadeth - Peace Sells...But Who's Buyin?Alice Cooper - Welcome to my NightmareMetallica - Kill Em AllQueen - A Day at the RacesAC/DC - Dirty Deeds Done Dirt CheapDanzig - Danzig II (Lucifuge)Refused - The Shape Of Punk To ComeTool - UndertowSystem of a Down - ToxicitySlough Feg - Ape Uprising!Strapping Young Lad - SYLOzzy Osbourne – Blizzard of OzMotörhead - Ace of SpadesIron Maiden - Iron MaidenFaith No More - Angel DustUlver - Shadows Of The SunIron Maiden - The Number of the BeastToday is the Day - Temple of the Morning StarNecronomitron - NecronomitronLightning Bolt - Wonderful RainbowKarp - SuplexPeste Noire - Ballade cuntre lo Anemi FrancorUlver - Bergtatt - Et Eeventyr I 5 CapitlerHarvey Milk - Courtesy And Good Will Toward MenHigh on Fire - Blessed Black WingsIggy and the Stooges - Raw PowerBlack Sabbath - Master Of RealityJudas Priest - British SteelMastodon - LeviathanCoroner - Punishment for DecadenceBad Brains - I Against IElectric Wizard - DopethroneEmperor - Anthems To The Welkin At DuskBurzum - FilosofemBlack Flag - My WarDissection - Storm Of The Light's BaneMayhem - De Mysteriis Dom SathanasSleep - DopesmokerHelmet - Meantime
― gg eileen (jjjusten), Saturday, 14 August 2010 04:28 (fifteen years ago)
yeah btw when peeps were saying "oh shit this poll is rigged for the pollmakers" i kept looking at my ballot and shrugging.
― gg eileen (jjjusten), Saturday, 14 August 2010 04:30 (fifteen years ago)
Tool - AenimaBlack Sabbath - Master Of RealityFunkadelic - Standing On The Verge Of Getting It OnLed Zeppelin - IIINirvana - In UteroMetallica - Ride The LightningLed Zeppelin - Houses of The HolySlayer - Reign in BloodBurzum - Hvis Lyset Tar OssAerosmith - RocksBlack Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody SabbathThin Lizzy - JailbreakSwans - Children of GodSmashing Pumpkins - Siamese DreamKing Crimson - RedDarkthrone - Transilvanian HungerZZ Top - Tres HombresFunkadelic - Maggot BrainAC/DC - PowerageAlice Cooper - KillerBurzum - FilosofemLed Zeppelin - IVTorche - MeanderthalAC/DC - Back In BlackIggy and the Stooges - Raw PowerIsis - OceanicManic Street Preachers - The Holy BibleQueen - IIVoivod - Dimension HatrössThe Young Gods - L'eau RougeQuicksand - slipQueens of the Stone Age - Songs for the DeafLed Zeppelin - Physical GraffitiAerosmith - Toys In The AtticBaroness - Blue RecordSunn O))) - Monoliths And DimensionsBlack Sabbath - SabotageBlue Oyster Cult - Agents of FortuneIsis - PanopticonNirvana - NevermindFaith No More - Angel DustBlack Sabbath - Vol IVAC/DC - Highway to HellMorbid Angel - Altars Of MadnessMetallica - Master of PuppetsImmortal - Pure HolocaustSepultura - AriseMayhem - De Mysteriis Dom SathanasBlack Flag - My WarIron Maiden - Piece of Mind
Thanks for doing this guys - going to enjoy looking through the stats, plenty of stuff to check out too.
― Gavin in Leeds, Saturday, 14 August 2010 09:27 (fifteen years ago)
favorite sub-genres:
wtfshitmordy metalnotgothgirly jeff metal
FITE
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Saturday, 14 August 2010 11:08 (fifteen years ago)
how about boyband? notgoth used to be a really long name saying alex in nyc says this is not goth and not metal. But it had to be changed to fit.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 11:20 (fifteen years ago)
but boyband is real you see
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Saturday, 14 August 2010 11:27 (fifteen years ago)
lol kjb got 34 of his picks in the top 300.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 11:29 (fifteen years ago)
i got 35.
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Saturday, 14 August 2010 11:30 (fifteen years ago)
haha false metal rules ilx
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 11:32 (fifteen years ago)
so everyone like the genre by genre results?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 12:06 (fifteen years ago)
Aldo thought the BM one looked like a good list in order, and colonel poo loved the thrash & DM lists.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 12:47 (fifteen years ago)
but do the other experts in those genres agree?
the actual heavy metal and heavy rock ones looked good, and the doom one was great though not quite the order I'd expect.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 12:49 (fifteen years ago)
Not convinced by the ordering in the grindcore one, although the content is ace.
― Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Saturday, 14 August 2010 12:56 (fifteen years ago)
Johnny did you like the hair metal one?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 13:03 (fifteen years ago)
Not particularly. What are those Pantera albums doing in there?
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 August 2010 13:06 (fifteen years ago)
Metal archives said Pantera was hair metal!
btw chuck didn't vote, so that meant lots didn't get a vote. But on the rolling metal threads, most don't like hair metal. That seems to be the preserve of non metallers tbh. there's no rolling hair metal thread, why not start one?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 13:13 (fifteen years ago)
Plus hair metal seemed to be more a singles genre. But i thought motley crue & ratt would have sneaked in the top 300, but then again, some huge albums didn't make the top 300. Look what just failed to get in (along with Boris - Pink and the metallica - black album)
If the poll had been all canon more would have complained.We still did better than any magazine poll, right?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 13:16 (fifteen years ago)
Orgasmatron...so near, yet so far (sigh).
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Saturday, 14 August 2010 13:26 (fifteen years ago)
hah i think jeffs ballot pushed it out!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 13:28 (fifteen years ago)
*shakes fist at girly-man jeff*
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Saturday, 14 August 2010 13:49 (fifteen years ago)
Jeff also pushed the Burzum album out of the top 10.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 13:50 (fifteen years ago)
Though it was Emperor that replaced it.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 13:51 (fifteen years ago)
Trivium & Avenged Sevenfold finishing last is justice.https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Album+Winners
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 14:48 (fifteen years ago)
One big dif. between now and the MTV era, I suppose, is that a lot of these BM/DM/doom bands are underground by design. Like, they've gone out of their way not to court the mainstream, and some of them - like, say, Ulver - even seem to have taken steps to throw off their own fans every couple of albums.― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, August 14, 2010 5:52 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, August 14, 2010 5:52 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yeah, but so were the big thrash bands, initially.
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Saturday, 14 August 2010 14:57 (fifteen years ago)
Then Metallica sold out and coincidentally went shite.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 14:59 (fifteen years ago)
Metallica wanting to title their debut Metal up Your Ass (ho ho ho), for example.
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Saturday, 14 August 2010 14:59 (fifteen years ago)
Well, the difference in being underground in the '80s and the '10s is really huge. Metallica didn't even bother making a proper video until 1988 because they knew it would never get played on MTV except at 3 in the morning. Now, MTV is no longer the proving ground. With the internet, bands can be as well-known or as little-known as they want to be.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)
I'd far rather bands concentrated on making great music rather than trying to be commercial and selling millions of records by being watered down.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:06 (fifteen years ago)
when you're everywhere you're nowhere tho. people need shit to be filtered to some extent imo.
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:06 (fifteen years ago)
gatekeepers to the rescue...
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:07 (fifteen years ago)
Re: the cookie monster vocals thing, it doesn't bother me at all in BM/doomy stuff but in other cases it annoys me... Of the various new-to-me things I've checked out from the list so far, the Obituary album is one of two I've not liked (the other is Ulver's Blood Inside which is genuinely one of the worst albums I've ever heard...).
― Gavin in Leeds, Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)
There you go again. Being commercial doesn't necessarily mean being watered down.
You don't seem to remember it, but metal (yes, hair metal!) was totally controversial in the '80s, just like rap was in the '90s. Some of the most popular stuff, sales-wise rather than radio-wise, was the dirtiest or the sexiest of it. Still, it appealed to gobs of people anyway. These groups aimed directly at the mainstream doing what they wanted to do.
Now the scene runs away from the mainstream like a bunch of little sissy boys.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)
lol, just wait til LJ sees that!xp
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)
wouldn't have Nevermind that way, tho, right?
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)
johnny, hair metal was a lot of shite mostly. Some people were more interested in how they looked rather than the music.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)
Haha, I'm absolutely up for discussing it - I did also give Bergtatt a listen and that was ok (also Spotify went straight from Blood Inside onto their folky album, which sounded nice enough).
(xp)
― Gavin in Leeds, Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:14 (fifteen years ago)
Look, we'll have to agree to disagree, but I honestly think you're one of the most close-minded people I've ever met when it comes to music. I mean, I didn't like a lot of the stuff on these polls, but I've heard it and I know WHY I don't like it.
Your excuses are flimsy and the constant needling of me about what I like makes you quite a douchebag.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)
I wonder why I would do that.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)
I don't know, because you're socially challenged?
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.theonion.com/articles/recently-single-al-gore-finally-able-to-listen-to,17824/
http://o.onionstatic.com/images/articles/article/17824/gore_large.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)
please to take it to chat, dudes.
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)
why am i playing thread-police. sheesh.
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)
well im willing to call a truce, but he overstepped the mark yesterday so i dont see how i can be blamed for being bitter about it.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)
You misrepresented the electorate, I made accusations based on faulty assumptions. It was not cool in any way, but I apologized.
You're still an ass.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)
Well I'm still offering a handshake & a truce.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)
did anyone check this stat?https://my.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Album+Kvltosis
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)
oh wait you wont see that, try this one https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Album+Kvltosis
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)
re: BM/DM vocals, the best way i can describe it is that its a v v hard entry point, but once you delve a little bit, theres a ton of variety within both, like the peste noire dude sounds nothing like varg who sounds nothing like ulver (in a vocal strict BM sense), but there is a palatte theyre all working from that you can understand. the way i usually describe it to peeps is that the first time you listen to a classical violin piece theres sort of a surface knowledge and reaction to it, but when you really dig in you can hear the differences when leonid kogan plays it vs gil shaham or itzhak perlman.
as for the diff between DM and BM vocals, i summed it up here somewhere but i dont know where and i dont have enough coffee in me yet to do it justice
― gg eileen (jjjusten), Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)
ok its not brilliant, but i found it
Black Metal vs Death Metal
― gg eileen (jjjusten), Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)
problem is, there are no huge Metallica/Priest/Sabbath-caliber bands to get people a-wonderin' "what's up?" anymore.
I consider Mastodon, Opeth, High On Fire, Enslaved, Gojira, Nachtmystium and others to be that high caliber. There's simply ten times more to choose from, so audiences are more split. More extreme bands can sell as many albums as the ones I mentioned, but there are no longer consensus blockbusters.
After studying the list some more, I realized Scorpions only had four albums with 9 votes total. That's just insane. I know I wanted to resubmit my ballot to include Lovedrive and Riot - Fire Down Under. It wouldn't have made any difference -- Lovedrive got zero votes! As did Animal Magnetism. As did Blackout! WTF! Those albums are classic. You can't go wrong with anything between Fly To The Rainbow and Blackout.
Another under-rated album is Atomic Rooster - Death Walks Behind You. Early hard rock/proto-metal, fans of Sabbath, Deep Purple, Budgie should definitely hear it.
At the moment I'm listening to Saint Vitus - Born Too Late. I would never have guessed second rate 80s revivalist doom would nearly beat Paranoid. That's just crazy. I like The Obsessed, Pentagram and Trouble well enough -- saw the latter two live in the past year. I remember hearing the Saint Vitus debut way back when since I heard everything that came out on SST. I could appreciate what they were trying to do, but the recording was shit. Maybe because they had even less a recording budget than Sabbath did 15 years previously, or maybe because Spot just couldn't get a proper thick low end to save his life. Born Too Late is definitely an improvement over their debut and would benefit from a remaster. But top ten?
― Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)
Ahh, these were the days...(complete with some Hanoi Rocks discussion for Herman): POX: '80s hair/glam metal tracks!
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 August 2010 16:10 (fifteen years ago)
I consider Mastodon, Opeth, High On Fire, Enslaved, Gojira, Nachtmystium and others to be that high caliber.
ok, need to clarify one point:
i meant today's bands are not up to past groups re commercial viability, rather than the aesthetic worth.
and now i'm off to dinner...
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Saturday, 14 August 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)
Johnny did you get my reply to your email?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, just now saw it.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 August 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)
Apparently it got in the Decibel hall of fame, it's a very influential album, beloved of lots of people.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 17:58 (fifteen years ago)
I'm glad it got in.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:10 (fifteen years ago)
All in all I think its a great list of 300 massive records. If 10 or 15 of seem way out of line you should have vetoed them during the process.
I thought all subgenres were well represented and it was pretty even. Apparently doom and black metal is very popular on ILM, and if you let people vote for Jane's Addiction and MSP and Soungarden then they are going to because thats just what some think is really hard music... suck it up, this wasn't a strictly metal poll.
Anyway, I'm really glad that YOB and Agalloch placed. Like every YOB album made it! Thats an amazing result! Don't just look at the stuff you think was bad and messed up, look at the all the amazing stuff that made it in the list.
Where something places is always going to be bollocks, just think of it as an awesome list of 300 great albums that 60 or so weird internet people thought were the best heavy/hard rock and metal albums. I see very little evidence of any tactical voting or conspiracy to get certain things placed higher.
Thats just my two cents. I'm not really following the thread, I've kind of just been in bed drinking juice and keeping my crackers down.
― Green Manalishi (Viceroy), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:16 (fifteen years ago)
Just imagine if Boris - Pink had placed top 10 like some expected, lol.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:18 (fifteen years ago)
But we should do a heaviest band of all time bracket poll to settle the matter once and for all on this topic of "heaviness"
― Green Manalishi (Viceroy), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:21 (fifteen years ago)
Tad?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:25 (fifteen years ago)
or a boris,mastodon,torche,isis,pelican had taken up the top 5. That village voice guy would be hunting us all down!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:35 (fifteen years ago)
heaviest or extreme? I don't think you could decide who was the heaviest.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:36 (fifteen years ago)
yeah i think "God" would be on my shortlist for heaviest, but I'm never even sure they're metal.
― gg eileen (jjjusten), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:37 (fifteen years ago)
noone could ever agree on it
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:38 (fifteen years ago)
or like painkiller maybe? the grind jazz stuff seems to have a weight thats hard to ignore
― gg eileen (jjjusten), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:41 (fifteen years ago)
Electric Wizard is the heaviest.
― Green Manalishi (Viceroy), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:44 (fifteen years ago)
pure noise would be out but ambient drone would be in.
― Green Manalishi (Viceroy), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:45 (fifteen years ago)
Im not sure ilm is ready for more bracket polls. or metal ones. skot & smithy might get mad
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 18:50 (fifteen years ago)
and whiney!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 19:15 (fifteen years ago)
we don't have to do it right away. just tuck the idea away for later.
― Green Manalishi (Viceroy), Saturday, 14 August 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)
Coming to this really fucking late. Having guilt about the albums I should have nominated/voted for, even if it wouldn't have made a difference in the long run. The sheer breadth of the poll must have been a vote-splitter for most of us - I know it was for me. It's an entirely personal thing, but I've got separate classifications for heavy rock and metal in my mind, and one isn't necessarily any better than the other, so compiling a list of my favourites in a single poll is just impossible. But at the end of the day, I don't take the ranking from 1 to 300 as the point of polls like this - I like getting introduced to stuff I might never have heard or given a chance to before.
But really, no Tad in this list at all? WTF??
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 14 August 2010 19:28 (fifteen years ago)
(I know I didn't vote for God's Balls, which I believe was the nominated one, as it's filed in my mind as 'rock', not 'metal', but Inhaler and Infrared Riding Hood are totally metal.)
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 14 August 2010 19:29 (fifteen years ago)
I like getting introduced to stuff I might never have heard or given a chance to before.
Exactly! I always assume everyone has heard the big selling albums so this is a great chance to check out new-to-you albums/bands.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)
jj is right btw, God are maybe the heaviest band I've ever seen. Meathead crushes yr skull.
― Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Saturday, 14 August 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)
I would never in a million years have thought of voting for Tad in this poll, but it warms the cockles of my feeble heart that someone out there still feels that strongly about him.
― Chaim Poutine (NickB), Saturday, 14 August 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)
I was just making a heavy joke, tbh.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 14 August 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)
Aha yeah, I got that, but MacDara seemed genuinely vexed.
― Chaim Poutine (NickB), Saturday, 14 August 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)
I was kidding, but only half kidding - Tad is/was/were a fantastic band that is still almost completely overlooked by the canon-setters.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 14 August 2010 20:40 (fifteen years ago)
I can't believe anyone is shocked Tad didn't make it.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 20:40 (fifteen years ago)
Look son, I remember seeing Tad and Nirvana on the same bill way back when, and though those scrawny kids were pretty good iirc, they did got tally whomped by the big feller and his mates.
― Chaim Poutine (NickB), Saturday, 14 August 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)
hey I own tad lps, I like them a lot, but they were a bit unlikely to get many ilxors voting for them.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 21:04 (fifteen years ago)
I know, and now I think on it, it pains me to my colon.
― Chaim Poutine (NickB), Saturday, 14 August 2010 21:07 (fifteen years ago)
i <3 TAD.
― gg eileen (jjjusten), Saturday, 14 August 2010 21:39 (fifteen years ago)
did you vote for tad? I forget.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 August 2010 23:30 (fifteen years ago)
hah, you didn't!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 15 August 2010 01:13 (fifteen years ago)
btw here is the full tracks list if anyones interested https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Track+Winners
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 15 August 2010 01:30 (fifteen years ago)
I saw that Tad/Nirvana tour. Nirvana might have even been the opener! Christ, I hadn't thought about Tad in forever, and no longer have the tapes. Now I gotta find 'em. I still don't get how some people don't understand the "heavy rock" part of this poll. Tad most definitely qualify.
That's what was great about this poll, mixing up the rock with the metal.
― Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 15 August 2010 03:03 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, Nirvana opened for Tad on that tour.
― Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Sunday, 15 August 2010 08:43 (fifteen years ago)
I still don't get how some people don't understand the "heavy rock" part of this poll.
We got that part, but as I explained above, for some of us it must be apples and oranges. For me metal and heavy rock are like twin brothers - they're similar in many ways, but they're not the same thing. I had to go with one or the other.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Sunday, 15 August 2010 09:23 (fifteen years ago)
I guess it makes sense to be in the mood for one or the other. I can't imagine anyone of my generation not liking any heavy rock, but it might true of some. For my own site I did make separate lists for metal and heavy rock. But it's also interesting to see how everything matches up together. I keep a master list that mixes metal, rock, reggae, punk, folk, everything that I listen to. Few people are obsessive enough to be motivated to do that, but polls are a great snapshot of peoples' tastes. It would be cool if everyone posted their ballots on their profiles. It's a good way to find things to relate to, or even better yet, learn who's really knowledgeable of some genre and could make recommendations.
― Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 15 August 2010 16:04 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks guys for a great poll, so much good stuff to check out. Here's my ballot, n.b. =28 in the falsity index:
Kyuss - Welcome To Sky ValleyNirvana - In UteroFaith No More - Angel DustLed Zeppelin – IVMetallica - Master of PuppetsBlack Sabbath - Master Of RealityGuns’n’Roses - Appetite For DestructionThe Stooges – FunhouseAC/DC - Back In BlackSleep – DopesmokerElectric Wizard – DopethroneManic Street Preachers - The Holy BibleMetallica - Ride The LightningBlack Sabbath - Vol IVSlayer - Reign in BloodEarth - The Bees Made Honey in the Lion's SkullSaint Vitus - Born Too LateNirvana – NevermindMelvins – HoudiniIron Maiden - The Number of the BeastFunkadelic - Maggot BrainLed Zeppelin – IIQueens of the Stone Age - Songs for the DeafFaith No More - The Real ThingHarvey Milk - Courtesy And Good Will Toward MenSoundgarden – BadmotorfingerAC/DC - Highway to HellMC5 - Kick Out The JamsNirvana – BleachMetallica - Metallica (The Black Album)Electric Wizard - Witchcult TodayAlice In Chains – DirtOm - PilgrimageBlack Sabbath – ParanoidThe Wildhearts - Earth Vs The WildheartsMastodon – LeviathanSunn O))) - Monoliths And DimensionsBlack Sabbath – s/tCarcass – HeartworkHawkwind - Space RitualKyuss - Blues For The Red SunFaith No More - Introduce YourselfNapalm Death – ScumSleep - Holy MountainBlack Sabbath – SabotageMetallica - ...And Justice for AllMegadeth - Rust In PeaceObituary - Slowly We RotJudas Priest - British SteelBaroness - Blue Record
― Neil S, Sunday, 15 August 2010 16:56 (fifteen years ago)
cheers neil
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 15 August 2010 17:56 (fifteen years ago)
It would be cool if everyone posted their ballots on their profiles. It's a good way to find things to relate to, or even better yet, learn who's really knowledgeable of some genre and could make recommendations.― Fastnbulbous,
― Fastnbulbous,
Good idea.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 15 August 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)
I added it to mine.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 15 August 2010 23:15 (fifteen years ago)
Hey everyone please remember to check the results genre by genre lists. Where you can see the top ranking albums in each genre. They're in a folder on the left menu, you may need to expand it to see the genres. There's lots of genres includingBlack Metal https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Black+MetalDeath metal https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Death+MetalDoom metal https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Doom+MetalHeavy Metal https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Heavy+MetalHeavy Rock https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Heavy+RockThrash Metal https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Thrash+MetalSludge Metal https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Sludge+Metal
and more (including false metal)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 16 August 2010 02:06 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks to all who voted and again thanks to JJ & Glenn for co-running it. and henry!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 16 August 2010 11:23 (fifteen years ago)
Large steak on it's way for henry!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 16 August 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)
fastnbulbous did you link to the results on your website?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 16 August 2010 16:25 (fifteen years ago)
i never got around to mentioning how happy i was that Pantera got nowhere near this list.
― gg eileen (jjjusten), Monday, 16 August 2010 16:42 (fifteen years ago)
and that the blakc album didnt make it
yes, i am a hater. go me!